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Speaker 3: Tell us all about it.

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Speaker 1: We scared her? Was it fine?

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Speaker 4: Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 2: Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need.

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Speaker 4: With Karen and Chris welcome to Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 4: This is Chris Fairbanks.

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Speaker 1: And this is Karen Kilgareff. Hello, my friend Karen. Hello.

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Speaker 3: Did you notice that I did my name introduction like

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Speaker 3: a newscaster?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah. We were talking about the news, broadcast, journalism

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Speaker 4: before this, and Karen took on a very TV ready tone.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm ready for the job.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about things, but I can cold read

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Speaker 3: and I can do the voice.

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Speaker 4: You know, they don't teach anything at radio television school.

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Speaker 1: Did you go no? No?

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Speaker 4: But I have family that did, a father and a sister.

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Speaker 4: Yes broadcast? Did your sister go to yes? I mean

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Speaker 4: I think she'd probably be offended that I just said.

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Speaker 1: They don't teach you anything.

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Speaker 4: She's a very smart I didn't learned a lot of

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Speaker 4: it in college, and I apologize, Lisa.

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Speaker 3: If you're listening, Lisa, we know you're listening because you're

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Speaker 3: one of the great podcasts support sisters. There is yes,

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Speaker 3: and I'd love to.

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Speaker 1: Hear her actual train TV radio bo.

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Speaker 4: I would like to also see some of her early

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Speaker 4: on camera work in Spokane, Washington.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh for real, Yeah, this is before she became

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Speaker 1: I have good news. But that also bees are back.

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Speaker 4: The other day I got stung on my hand. Well,

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Speaker 4: I just felt what a privilege to finally get stung

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: The weather. And now, how we nailed that package. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yes, we have such a good guest today. I'm so

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Speaker 1: It's very exciting. Three our premier guest for Ces.

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Speaker 4: This is our season three premiere episode.

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Speaker 1: Yes it is. That should have been one of the

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Speaker 4: Sometimes things have to take backseat to a good bagel

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Speaker 4: hand story.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, you've seen her perform at clubs and

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Speaker 3: colleges all over the country. Please and star search, please

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Speaker 3: welcome the legendary MS Margaret Show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Oh, clubs in colleges, comedy on the road,

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Speaker 2: with John Viners, John Viner's On the Road, Half Hour

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Speaker 1: The A List, Yes, Wow, wow.

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Speaker 4: Yes, MTV's half Hour Comedy Hour with Mario Joiner.

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Speaker 3: HBOS Ladies of the Night, the HBO ones, the cable

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like a dark alley and high heel.

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Speaker 2: Welcome dian Ford, Diane Ford, Susie Esmond, Margaret Smith. I

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Speaker 2: love I love all those comedians, by the.

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Speaker 3: Way, legendary Carol Leifer. They were the ones that made

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Speaker 4: So yeah, what what did Sandra Bernhardt host?

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Speaker 3: One of the best recurring Letterman guests of all time.

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Speaker 2: Somebody got a pilates machine that I ordered when I

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Speaker 2: Oh, but I think she had started a GoFundMe too,

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Speaker 2: Like she was trying to make money from her disability,

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Speaker 3: Oh that was supposed to be like, now go to

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Speaker 4: He should be arrested. You donate to my leg shakes.

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Speaker 2: That's what I think. That's what happened, is that she

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Speaker 3: I don't have the internal like temperature to go enough.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm doing it right now. You guys know what

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Speaker 4: I have been easing back into because there's not a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think the audience is understanding and like yes, okay,

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Speaker 3: I'll text it to you, okay.

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Speaker 2: Please, because I just don't know. I just like I

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Speaker 3: It's just weird because I feel like, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: It felt it felt awful.

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Speaker 3: Even if you were doing well, it felt awful, like

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Speaker 1: But then it's almost like, but you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing but I'm talking to strangers for too long.

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Speaker 4: But if it's a social situation where I'm it's people

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Speaker 1: Which is like the.

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Speaker 2: Worst part of life.

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Speaker 1: Really good.

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Speaker 3: Get people to talk about like actual trauma the worst

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Speaker 2: Yes, but like distance, I think junior high is the worst.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, because I want to. I think these

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Speaker 2: And I would sit on the toilet and eat it.

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Speaker 2: I'll have a toilet and just sitting there eating it,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you needed a moment to yourself. Is it okay?

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Speaker 1: And I'm just admitting this.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I still enjoy I will bring food into the

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Speaker 4: I like to wash my insides while I washed my

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Speaker 3: Early two thousands move well not early two thousands. Stop

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Speaker 3: drinking in the nineties, but those in the height of

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Speaker 2: I think you and me and Greg were in there

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Speaker 2: one time I was pregnant and I took acid and

446
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 2: I didn't know I was pregnant, but I took the

447
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 2: acid and then I was like, there's someone in here.

448
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: In my body. Oh wow, And you were right. That

449
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: was that Christmas party.

450
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: This Christmas party, Yeah, And people were.

451
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 3: Like, we took as at like three o'clock in the afternoon,

452
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 3: and then the Christmas party started. And I was wearing

453
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 3: a silver vinyl dress that zipped up the front, and

454
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 3: first I started with that one of those fifties kind

455
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: of sheer blousey, almost like a night blouse, and I

456
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 3: was so cold. At one point, someone goes, your lips

457
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 3: are blue because it was fucking December. It was a

458
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: Christmas party. So then I changed into a turtleneck, a

459
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 3: turtleneck under the vinyl dress, and people were like, you're

460
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 3: the best hosts, And I mean, my pupils must have

461
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 3: been like complete My eyes must have been completely black.

462
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 3: It was insane and it was just to me. It

463
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 3: was all like lights and faces and smiles. And that

464
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 3: was the Christmas party. I think you were in the

465
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 3: room for this, Margaret, but this is one of my

466
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: favorite memories of all time.

467
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: I went into the and Brian Reagan had the Joy.

468
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 3: Of Cooking open and he was sarcastically reading it to

469
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: somebody and it was so funny.

470
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't even explain.

471
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 3: He was just like, oh, half a cup of flour,

472
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: and everyone was just like crazy, so funny.

473
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: It was weird. Wow, how many comics lived in this

474
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: drug den? Uh? It was just me.

475
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: My other two roommates were not comics, but everybody was

476
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: thinking about this too. This was this time where we

477
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: all we spent every hour of the day together, so

478
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: you know, we'd always get together for maybe lunch, definitely dinner.

479
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 3: Then we'd go do sets and most people were on

480
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 3: the same show, and then we'd go to Fellini's and

481
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 3: then we go to someone's house after two am. And

482
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: so probably like that, when Margaret and Greg and I

483
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 3: woke up at my house, it was just like it

484
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,959
Speaker 3: was just another. It was a Thursday probably yeh, and

485
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 3: we've got up and we were in insanely hungover, and

486
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: then it was just like, now we have to go

487
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 3: to toy and meet everybody for lunch.

488
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: It was just like constant. I kind of ran a

489
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: phone tree.

490
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 3: Where I'd be like, we're all going to go to

491
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: to We're all going to go to toy or it

492
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 3: was insane.

493
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: It was just sounds fun, though, I mean, I know,

494
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: very fun.

495
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I never had that really, Yeah, I just had

496
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 4: a domestic situation. When I started comedy. I was home

497
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 4: right after the show. Well not always.

498
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 3: I looked out because Margaret moved to LA. Margaret had

499
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 3: already been living in LA part time. We met in

500
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 3: San Francisco, so when she would come up there and

501
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 3: then when I moved to LA, she was my truly

502
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: my one friend. But she like you would go on

503
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 3: the road and I got to stay at that house.

504
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: But that in that.

505
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 3: House is where Greg Barrett lived, Laura Milligan lived, Jerry

506
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 3: Finelli lived sometimes Genie Garoffalo.

507
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: So it was I like basically.

508
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: Was grandfathered into Margaret's friend group.

509
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: Essentially. That's so exciting. Though it was fun. It's a

510
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: piece of comedy history.

511
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 3: It was very it was very fun and very crazy nineties.

512
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: It was crazy. But fen Fenn and around the corner

513
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 2: from your house was that's where Greg Barent and David

514
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: Cross lived. Yes, so that was another party house that

515
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: if you would just like walk like down the street

516
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: and they were right around the corner.

517
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 4: I've heard of that because I used to open for

518
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 4: Greg a lot and he would tell the stories about

519
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 4: that house.

520
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that was a good party house.

521
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 3: There was one party where Kathy Griffin would have a

522
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 3: Christmas party every year, and she got mad because it

523
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: was when she was on Suddenly Susan and all of

524
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: her comedy stand up friends were embarrassing her in front

525
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 3: of her Suddenly Susan friends. And remember she ended the

526
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 3: party early because people were like sliding down the stairs,

527
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 3: so we.

528
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: All walked down on the street.

529
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: So I just started inviting everybody over to Greg and

530
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: David's house because I was like, oh, well, let's just

531
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 3: meet there. And I told all everybody at this party

532
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 3: to go to their house. And then I went home

533
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 3: so drunk.

534
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Greg called me super mad. He's like, hey,

535
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: so your party started, are you gonna come to it.

536
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: I was like, sorry, I can't come, I'm too drunk.

537
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: That's the best move ever, It's so good.

538
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 4: I would think that her suddenly Susan friends would love

539
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 4: watching comedians slide down the banister, you'd.

540
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 3: Think, I mean, I think it was just a self consciousness.

541
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: It was in that brookshield Yeah, Shields would love to.

542
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 4: Watch comedian after comedians slide down a handrail.

543
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, come against. But she married Chris Henshy,

544
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: so she did love it.

545
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: So she did love it. Is that he was a

546
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: comedy writer.

547
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: He's a comedy writer and he uh, he was a

548
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 3: regular at Fellini's. And my favorite Chris Henchy memory is

549
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: one night and I mean at this bar we would

550
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: get so drunk and so I mean that's Barren Yeager.

551
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 3: We were like into subsets of Yeager. Is how alcoholic?

552
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 3: At least I was for sure. There was one night

553
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: where Chris Henchy was telling me a story and I

554
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 3: kept taking a cigarette out of a pack and then

555
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 3: lighting it. Then I would react to a story and

556
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: start gesturing with my hands and then basically and then

557
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh, I was going to smoke a cigarette.

558
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: This this is so long ago. You could still smoke

559
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 3: in bars. And after a while I went to get

560
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: a cigarette and my pack was empty, and I was like,

561
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 3: who smoked all my cigarette? And I looked down on

562
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: the ground and I had picked I'd tried to light

563
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: and drop twenty cigarettes.

564
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 1: That's how drunk. I was, like, not aware of what

565
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: the fuck I was doing, and yet you were just

566
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: throwing them on the ground.

567
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

568
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 4: I would like even doing that with one cigarette, but twenty.

569
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: Twenty in a row where it just be kind of

570
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: like I would get caught up in whatever the story was,

571
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: and that's how drunk we were, and then just like

572
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: fall out of my hands and I'd be like, oh,

573
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: I need to get a cigarette.

574
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so normal. It's so normal, though, to put away

575
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: like twenty thirty drinks something like that at like Pedro's

576
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: or fellini I mean, but Fellini's. We would never go

577
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: there until at least two in the morning. They would

578
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: usually stay up until about.

579
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: Four, Yeah, they would. They would lock the door, so

580
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: we got to stay there after hours because we were

581
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: friends with the bartenders. It was so it was really bad.

582
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: And it's a miracle that no one died or because

583
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 3: we we were also driving.

584
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: Yes, there was there was no Uber, but there was

585
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: no Uber.

586
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: There was no tax There's no taxis in Hollywood.

587
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean Hollywood. Okay, we didn't have far to go.

588
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: But I mean that's the other crazy thing too.

589
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: Who is driving?

590
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

591
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: I drove all the time.

592
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: I must have been driving, but I can't remember if

593
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: I was driving or not. I must have been.

594
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: You must have been, and I was, for sure. I mean, yeah,

595
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: it was a true.

596
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 4: Blur back in you know, fifteen years ago. I would

597
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 4: and people always frowned on it. But I just had

598
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: a blanket and pillow in my car, and if I

599
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 4: had too much to drink, I always slept in my car.

600
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: You know.

601
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 4: I got my pepper spray and my brass knuckles, but

602
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 4: I'd sleep in my car all that time.

603
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: That's smart. Actually, yeah, it's actually way better.

604
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 4: And it never get a good night's sleep, but it

605
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 4: is kind of nice to wake up at the crack

606
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 4: of dawn and drive home with the windows down at yeah,

607
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 4: five thirty am.

608
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: But's safer safely, sure, Yeah, it's better than driving drunk.

609
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't yeah, I don't remember how we

610
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: got home every night, but we did.

611
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we loved.

612
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: We were incredibly lucky, and like I think of it

613
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: driving in the daytime now sometimes of like you know,

614
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: sometimes just every once in a while, like somebody will

615
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: step off the sidewalk and then you stop short and

616
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: the I'm just like, how did that not happen to

617
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 3: us at night while we were drunk driving? Like it's

618
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: just bone chilling to think of how close we could

619
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: have been to something really horrible happening.

620
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. We got out of it. We got

621
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: out of it, and we moved on.

622
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: We moved on, But it was Yeah, I think about

623
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: I think it's just like being young and just the

624
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: way that I'm so glad that social media didn't exist.

625
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: Could you imagine if we'd had that then, Like we've

626
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: just been so embarrassing, like all of the things, like

627
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: all the things that we didn't even take photographs, it's

628
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: all just in our memory.

629
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: Yes, I you know what, there's one night from Fleeni's

630
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: that I have photographs of that are so hilarious because

631
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: I was at that point, I was on fen fen,

632
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: which was essentially speed.

633
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 4: And you know, there's a lawsuit, you maybe have a

634
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 4: lot of money coming to but well, lawsuit.

635
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure on TV.

636
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: But my eyes in every picture, like my eyelids are

637
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: nowhere near my irises. There's it's I have the widest,

638
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 3: craziest eyes and like smiling, like where you can see

639
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: my gumbs in the back. It's just scary. It's like

640
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: it must have been.

641
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 4: Sounds like you were just happy, just smiling, surrounded by

642
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 4: twenty cigarettes. It was just I don't it was crazy.

643
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 4: It was Yeah, it was a dangerous time and unhealthy.

644
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 4: But all this talk has made me want to go

645
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 4: to a house party.

646
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: I know, right, still be fun.

647
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: They can still be fun.

648
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: They can't.

649
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: I mean I think I think a house party, it's

650
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: like also a house party full of comics I think

651
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: would be fun. Yes, now, just because we never see

652
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: each other so well, Karen.

653
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 4: A, Karen's going to throw another party, right, Karen, I will,

654
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 4: I will, and Margaret you should go. I'm inviting people

655
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 4: to other people's parties like you.

656
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: I deserve it. Let's go to David Crosses.

657
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: Yes, let's get let's get the old gang back together.

658
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 3: Remember they would play like David and Greggs house. There

659
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: would always be like craps, a craps game on in

660
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: the driveway and there's somebody.

661
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: I think it was like a celebrity. Some celebrity came.

662
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: Maybe it was Vince Vaughan and played craps and everybody

663
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: took the money and walked away.

664
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: So incredible.

665
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 4: And he was in Swingers. Yeah he did all that research.

666
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: It was either Vince vaugh or Toby Hauss. Toby Haus

667
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: was like a weirdly like at every party too, oh yes,

668
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: kind of vaguely like looking like Frank Sinatra.

669
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 4: Yeah he is the guy that acted like Frank Sinatra

670
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 4: on MTV.

671
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, that's all I know of him.

672
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 3: A great character actor and he also he reminded me

673
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: of like he wasn't a stand up per se.

674
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: He could if.

675
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: He wanted to, and he was an amazing live performer

676
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 3: and stuff, but he was always the one that, like

677
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: when I was being my most idiotic and then I

678
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: would look over and if Tobyhus was standing there, the

679
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: shame would pass over me because he was like a

680
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: real adult with a real career. It felt like where

681
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, my shit isn't going to fly

682
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: over that direction.

683
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: He also has one of those faces like he's always

684
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: disappointed in you, just resting disappointment face he does.

685
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: He just looks so cool, and it was that weird

686
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: nineties as nineteen forties.

687
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 3: Yes, he looked like a dust bowl, a migrant who

688
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 3: had come out. He was wearing the same jeans for

689
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 3: five years. He also did the thing that I loved

690
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 3: where he crossed his legs like kind of like a woman,

691
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: like his knee went all the way over, and then

692
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: he would cross his hands while he was smoking a cigarette.

693
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: And that was exactly how my uncle Steve used to

694
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 3: do it. And it was just very he There's something

695
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: about Toby hus that is just so like he's like

696
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: a lead character, and even though it's supposed to be

697
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: your life, you're like, oh, the lead character's here, Like

698
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: he's a legend.

699
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: I just think of him like outside of Laura Milligan's house,

700
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: because Laura had a it was like a shanty or

701
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: a shack that was so it was like they had

702
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: built it themselves, Her and Mike built it themselves up

703
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: planks that they found that like the flea market. I mean,

704
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: it was just so incredible, like rustic farmhouse yep. And

705
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 2: you know Toby has standing outside with just like that

706
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: grapes of wrath kind of drag Yep with his legs

707
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: swung all the way over. I know exactly what you

708
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 2: mean about the cross leg. It's like a feminine thing

709
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: that looks really masculine on him.

710
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: Incredibly masculine and like a lee buttoned down cowboy shirt

711
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: with purlescent buttons.

712
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: He's just the whole look is you know what it was.

713
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: There's hipsters in LA that would try to buy those

714
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 3: clothes and wear them, but he actually had already owned them,

715
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,479
Speaker 3: like he was the real deal.

716
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: Like that people were kind of trying to dress leg

717
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: or look like.

718
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: Well, like people would be in Japan would be taking

719
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 2: that picture to their hair dresser and could you make

720
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: my hair look like this? Like it's that kind of

721
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: like so iconic. Yes, it's very interesting.

722
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the greatest. Yeah, that shack party. There was

723
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: one d lore through me a birthday party one time,

724
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: and I was three hours late to it because of

725
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 3: the fucking fen Fenn. I could never leave my house.

726
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: I would start getting ready, but you know this is

727
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: like don't do drugs.

728
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: They suck you up so.

729
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 3: Badly where I just like I would be doing my

730
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: eye makeup for like two hours, like I couldn't get

731
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: out of the mirror.

732
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: So, so, way, what did fen Fenn do.

733
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 4: It's not related to fentanyl or fentanyl or whatever, right,

734
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 4: it's it's it's a it's.

735
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: A diet pill.

736
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: It's like an old school like diepile from I think

737
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: maybe the nineteen thirties, but they mixed it with another

738
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: diet pill that was like a downer, so you had

739
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: an up and a down at the same time, so

740
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: you didn't go as like crazy. So it wasn't like

741
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: a mother's little helper kind of sixties situation. It was

742
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: like kind of supposed to even you out, but it

743
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 2: made you really nuts.

744
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 4: And it is a simultaneous upper and downer classically, how

745
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 4: you die.

746
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: In your I mean I think sleepball.

747
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the old speed ball.

748
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: They all they all go out like that.

749
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: So but it made you lose weight. So I mean

750
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 3: I lost thirty pounds in a month.

751
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty school.

752
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: That went Karen, are you eating one lettus sleep a day?

753
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: And we used to say that to each other all

754
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 1: the time.

755
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: I remember that, and I was so mad that it

756
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 3: would comment on It was like I truly dropped half

757
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 3: of half of my I was not half of my weight,

758
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 3: but a significant amount of weight in one month.

759
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: It was crazy.

760
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: But I got them from this costumer who had worked

761
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: in like the sort of Disney lot in the nineties

762
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: when I was doing television there. So there was like,

763
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: you know, all of these actresses, because everybody in the

764
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: nineties was really, really thin. Yeah, so there was no

765
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: way to for me, like, my body's just not going

766
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: to do that on its own, Like I can't do

767
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: that with diet and exercise. There's just no way I

768
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 2: could ever imagine. So we were all getting them through

769
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: the same sort of channels there because all doctors in Burbank.

770
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: All doctors in Burbank that you never really saw their face.

771
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: It was all very shady. But and then when you

772
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: basically were like, oh this has made me go insane,

773
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: there's no one to go back to be like, hey,

774
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: can I get this adjusted. It would be like the

775
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 3: office would be abandoned. Yeah, it was so shady.

776
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: It was so shady, But it was like, I mean,

777
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, now there's a like a lot of

778
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: lawsuits around, like class action lawsuits around that drug. But

779
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: for a minute, it just seemed like the promised Land,

780
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: you know, that kind of like dieting and exercise. You

781
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: just didn't have to think about food. Yeah, you had

782
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: that pill.

783
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 3: I did not care for the first time in my life.

784
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: It was just like, oh yeah, whatever you were relating one,

785
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: let us leave a day today. It's insanity.

786
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 3: Well what we did was shop at the Beverly Center compulsively.

787
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: And Melrose Avenue and Melrose.

788
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot of shopping in a kind

789
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 3: of like frenzied panic about nothing.

790
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: I couldn't get enough shirts with like polo shirts with

791
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: like a zipper, like with a ring, Like I couldn't

792
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: get enough things with a zipper with a ring, which

793
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: is the most like nineties thing is like any kind

794
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 2: of zipper with a ring, and like tiny baretts.

795
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: Yes, it was very belt. It was like Brady Bunch cosplay.

796
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: There was a god like a lot of polyester outfits

797
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: where you're like this smells someone else wore it forty

798
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 3: years ago and I'm boiling hot.

799
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it was. It was.

800
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of men's pajama bottoms, you know, really

801
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 3: stiff things from ex Girl.

802
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: Yes on Vermont where you.

803
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: Would like buy you know there that was a show

804
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 2: store that was next to the Beastie Boys store.

805
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you would.

806
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: It was like the girl's leg of the Beastie Boys store,

807
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: and so you would just buy whatever. I think it

808
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 2: was Kim Gordon's line.

809
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just take anything they had.

810
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 2: Anything didn't matter. And it was always very stiff and painful.

811
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 4: When I lived with When I lived with Tig, she

812
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 4: for a few days, our house was a drop off

813
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 4: point for Katrina things, boxes of diapers and things. I

814
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 4: had to move my bed out and this I was

815
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 4: moving furniture out so we could move these boxes in.

816
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 4: And Kim Gordon came into our living room and I'm

817
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 4: a big Sonic Youth fan. It was like the first

818
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 4: CD I purchased with Sonic Youth, uh from Columbia house.

819
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 4: I put a stamp down anyway, I did not even

820
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 4: I know that Tig didn't know who. Tig just had

821
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 4: one arrowsmith because that and.

822
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you can put the stuff.

823
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 4: And I was just talking to some lady and then

824
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 4: she left and it was like that was uh something

825
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 4: gorgon Kim Gordon And I'm like, Kim Gordon from Sonic

826
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 4: Youth was just in my house. It was the coolest thing.

827
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: She is the coolest. I mean, she's incredibly cool.

828
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: Do you know her?

829
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: I I know, I'm friends with her on like Twitter

830
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: and Instagram. Yeah, and I'm I'm a huge Sonic Youth fan.

831
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean I.

832
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: Love her, just her, just and I did love ex

833
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: Girl actually still exists in Japan.

834
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

835
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: And it's not it's a different kind of look now.

836
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 4: But you say it was next to the Beastie Boys store.

837
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 4: Is the is it Paul's boutique?

838
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: Is it?

839
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: Or is that just a store? On that album? It

840
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: was almost like the.

841
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: First tennis shoes store or whatever they're called.

842
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a streetwear like for the first

843
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: one of the first streetwear sort of outlets, places that

844
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: you would get like sort of the big Heart jeans

845
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: and was.

846
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: It extra large? It was extra large? And then it

847
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: was I'm a I'm a fashion man about town. Look,

848
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: there's a gorilla graphic x X large. Right. I think

849
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: they still make stuff.

850
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: But we lived on Vermont. It was like a muck

851
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 2: Books and it was EK which EK is still there.

852
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: They're still there, which I love, And that is it?

853
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: A muck Books that had like all those graphic novels

854
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 3: that we would read.

855
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and all of the true crime books that

856
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 2: I read came from a muck Books, and that guy

857
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: uh now owns an Etsy shop where he sells a

858
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: lot of the stuff that he had liquidated his you know,

859
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: inventory from a mock books that he doesn't have a

860
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: brick and mortar store, but he has a store on Etsy.

861
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 1: Now, your parents had a bookstore, right.

862
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: My parents had a bookstore on Polk Street called Paperback Traffic.

863
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: It's a big tobacco store now where you would get

864
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: get like vapes and vape liquid, nape juice. But it

865
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: was a big gay bookstore in the sixties, seventies, eighties,

866
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: and nineties.

867
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome.

868
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 4: Have you seen the either of you seen the documentary

869
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 4: about Circus of Books? Yes, it is so and it's

870
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 4: the most unlikely older couple that got into making gay porn.

871
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: It was such a cool story.

872
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: I love great story. Yeah, it's a great it's a

873
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: great documentary.

874
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

875
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: And guess what that place is now it's a vape store. Yeah,

876
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: it's a weed dispensary. It's a weed I see a

877
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: lot of people vaping. I didn't, of course, it's probably

878
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: marijuana vapor. But yeah, that's.

879
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: What I missed that. I mean I'm sobs so don't

880
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: do anything. Yeah, but I do miss weed vaping, not

881
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: weed smoking. Yeah, and certainly not dabs. Dabs would just

882
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: kill me. Daves give me das.

883
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: I pretend to know what it is is that when

884
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 4: there's black stuff at the end of a paper clip

885
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 4: and you kind of freebase it or was I doing.

886
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: That's that's just that's like hash oil. Okay, I've done

887
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 1: that a closet for twenty four hours.

888
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: Yeah's to the same thing. But it's like you get

889
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: like a nail like which is a sort of a

890
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: some kind of a base that you heat up with

891
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: a huge like flamethrower, get like red hot, and then

892
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 2: you put resin on that. So it's like smoking the

893
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 2: same it's the same thing that you would smoke.

894
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's when we would feel like you're doing heroin

895
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 4: or something like. There's when you're there's implements and you

896
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 4: got to heat up a thing and put another thing

897
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 4: on it.

898
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 1: That's that's what would happen.

899
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: The blowtorch though, like you need like a lot of

900
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 2: but tane. You can't just do it with the lighter.

901
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 2: You need something that blows fire.

902
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that should be the line of demarcation right there.

903
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: Too much, but it's the vape.

904
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't work.

905
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 4: There's a building in Missoula that David Lynch. I guess

906
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 4: he's from Missoula, Montana, believe it or not. And there

907
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: was a building that that blue velvet. But yeah, I

908
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 4: did the hash oil thing and I hid in a closet.

909
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 4: I ended up after twenty hours finally calling my dad

910
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 4: and saying I smoked something. I'm so, I'm dying in

911
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 4: a closet and he had to come pick me up

912
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 4: at this scary hotel. It was just imagine the hotel

913
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 4: from a blue velvet, and that's being paranoid and hidden

914
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 4: in a closet. I never did this stuff again anything

915
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 4: but tane based.

916
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: Too terrible, terrible much.

917
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 3: It's for the young, but there's just no reason I

918
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: was drugs.

919
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: I was twenty. Yeah.

920
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you're gonna people will do them, but sure,

921
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 3: I don't know. It feels like kids these days might

922
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 3: be a little bit smarter. I felt like I was like, well,

923
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: I gotta do this, like I'm twenty three, let's do

924
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: this thing.

925
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're fun ring vodka in their butts and stuff.

926
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 4: There's other things they're doing. But I think drugs are

927
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 4: just whack. If you offer a kid drugs now, they'll

928
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 4: be like, no thanks, loser, no way, dude.

929
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: Drug during like k off of Scott's house key, like

930
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: somewhere South just go with like the hotel on knob

931
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: Hill and doing bumps of k off of Scott's house

932
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 2: key and then laying in the bed like two old ladies,

933
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: like just Timm and Me in the bed like.

934
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: It's so it was a weird k is a weird drug.

935
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, is that even a fun drug?

936
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: I don't remember any good drugs? Did you fall into

937
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: a K hole? Yeah? Is that what a K hole is? Probably?

938
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, just you know, you just want to get in bed.

939
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember we did ecstasy one time.

940
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 3: It was me, you, Ebbie and Scott in your room

941
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 3: in that apartment that was on like fourteenth or something fourteenth.

942
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 2: It was by by Tweak or Safeway.

943
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did ecstasy and you guys were

944
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 3: all like, whoa, it's amazing, And I was just sitting

945
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: there and it was just it felt like I'd used

946
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 3: dander shampoo. My my scalp was lightly tingling, and that

947
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: was the only difference and I was like, there's something

948
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 3: wrong with me. But I was like, and remember the

949
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 3: lights were out and we were listening to crowded house

950
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: and they smoking, and that was like our drug night.

951
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: That was the best.

952
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah that I think was it Together Alone

953
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: or maybe I don't know which record was it.

954
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: I think it was Together.

955
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, with like four seasons in one day and those.

956
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 3: Big hits yeah, and those beautiful like you know, the

957
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 3: oral composition of it, like there there's a bunch of

958
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 3: shit happening, and so then if you're on drugs, it's

959
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: like even better sounding.

960
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: So many different sounds and we were listening to one

961
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: on a compact disc.

962
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.

963
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: Many things like us very compressed.

964
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: It was really good. What a time during.

965
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: That It was different Yeah, oh sorry, it was different

966
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: than doing drug rugs at Ramona because Ramona felt like

967
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: we were we were really like stepping out, like we

968
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: were going to an exotical casion.

969
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ramona, Wait, that's the mine in Scott's apartment. Yeah,

970
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 3: because I was trying to remember the name of that

971
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: fucking street the other day.

972
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: Oh, so I could not fucking remember.

973
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 3: I was just was driving me insane. But that apartment

974
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 3: we were talking. I was talking about how I used

975
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 3: to sneak into Scott's room and steal pot out of

976
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 3: his drawer, and I knew he was trying to see

977
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: if I was doing that, so I would go in

978
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 3: there and look around for like a hair that he

979
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: had laid over it.

980
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: I was like the most.

981
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: The high level criminal, which just like I'm sure if

982
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: I said to him, like, hey, if I give you

983
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: twenty bucks, can I just some of your plot? But

984
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: instead I would just be like going in and breaking

985
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: things off and taking the hair and putting it on

986
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 3: the desk and taking the pot and then putting it

987
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 3: back like.

988
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: It was dirty. It was dirty business. It was.

989
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: It was funny, not nice behavior desperate times at the Gap.

990
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: Was this like early two thousands or late nineties? It

991
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: was early nineties, man, early nineties.

992
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: This is like ninety one, ninety two, ninety three.

993
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: I was like around that I just taken and I

994
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: was in algebra.

995
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: Oh man, no, baby. I was living the life in

996
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 3: San Francisco. But like all of my friends that work,

997
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 3: I'm still friends with a bunch of the people that

998
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 3: worked there, Like do you remember Jason Lopez, Dave Mesberg,

999
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: Jason Lopez.

1000
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 4: There was like he came to one of my shows

1001
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 4: and introduced himself to me as your good friend.

1002
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 3: Yes, he has been my friend since I was nineteen,

1003
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 3: and he has He used to go to the Improv

1004
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 3: when we would go do sets on Mondays or Sundays

1005
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 3: or whenever we would go do sets. He has been

1006
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: there like watching me do comedy. And then once I.

1007
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: Started doing podcasts, he's listened to every podcast.

1008
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 4: So he's listening right now, right now, he really is.

1009
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: He was very Yeah, he was very sweet. I remember

1010
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 4: meeting him and he said he was your old friend,

1011
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 4: and I believed him.

1012
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: He was in love with Greg Proops.

1013
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 3: So anytime Proops was going to be the headliner on

1014
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 3: the showcase show on was it on Monday night or

1015
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 3: Sunday at the Improv?

1016
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: Do you remember Monday?

1017
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: It was Mondays? It was Sundays was the punchline. So

1018
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 2: Mondays was the Improv because they would have the National

1019
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 2: Theater of the Deranged would do the improv show before yep,

1020
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: and then they would do so they had their own

1021
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 2: sort of thing, and then they would do the comedy

1022
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 2: showcase and always Greg was there.

1023
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it always it was so what a time what

1024
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 3: a cool place to come up. I mean, I'm so grateful. Cool.

1025
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also like it doesn't feel like that

1026
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: much time has passed either, you know, in a lot

1027
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: of ways like comics kind of like I saw Greg

1028
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: today Actually we did an Instagram live. I was like

1029
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: leaving and he he was coming in or vice version.

1030
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 2: But it's like I don't feel like it like it

1031
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: was that long ago, right, in a lot of ways.

1032
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's true, but so much shit has happened.

1033
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: It's just weird.

1034
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 3: It's like it's it's a very it was such a

1035
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 3: crazy group of people all trying to do like the

1036
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 3: same thing at the same time, and then you know

1037
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: everyone kind of just arcd out and did took their path. Yeah,

1038
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 3: just crazy.

1039
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 4: That's I wanted to move there around that time when

1040
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 4: I was still in high school, just because that's where

1041
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 4: you moved to be a skateboarder.

1042
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: Do there?

1043
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: Just go like yeah, because of all the hills. Yeah, yeah, just.

1044
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 4: Bombed downhills And uh, I'm glad I didn't. I'm glad

1045
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 4: my dad said no, you should go to college here

1046
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 4: in Montana. But I love that city. It's so exciting.

1047
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 4: Do you guys still love going back there, or how

1048
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 4: do you feel about this?

1049
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 2: I was just there, I went to Actually I was

1050
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 2: in Sacramento on Saturday. I was going to tell you

1051
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: I did it. I did a thing at the Cress Theater. Oh,

1052
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: and there was just I mean, I'm like the old

1053
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: lady now, because there was a some kind of like

1054
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: drum end bass, like very like dubstep concert in the

1055
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: park outside my hotel room. And it was making me

1056
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 2: so mad. These kids with their dumb step and stool

1057
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 2: loud turn that bash nectar down.

1058
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: Like I was Carnival something like that.

1059
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: Like it was so loud and it was really infuriating

1060
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: and I just was like it was bleeding into my

1061
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 2: my super high density ear plugs and I could hear

1062
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: it even through my earplugs, and I was just like fuming.

1063
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: But San Francisco is very different now, Like it's very

1064
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 2: like none of none of the real sort of landmarks

1065
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 2: are there that we knew of. Like all of the

1066
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: stores are different and bar it's just different. Yeah, the

1067
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 2: bars are different, everything, the restaurants too, everything's different.

1068
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 3: And also I don't think the especially like the way

1069
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 3: I lived where that first house we lived on a

1070
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 3: Clayton and Waller with Christy and Dave. I think I

1071
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 3: paid three hundred and fifty dollars a month for my room. No,

1072
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: it was the room under the stairs that I think

1073
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 3: used to had been a broom closet.

1074
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: But it was a Victorian I mean it was like

1075
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: it was a great apartment, very beautiful apartment with huge

1076
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: windows and like bay windows in that front. I mean

1077
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: it was like a classic San Francisco Victorian house.

1078
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we got I mean those guys paid, so

1079
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 3: our rent must have been thirteen to fifty a month,

1080
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: because I think Dave and Christy paid five and I've

1081
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 3: paid three fifty.

1082
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: And now that house is fifteen million.

1083
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 3: Jo Really like, I think if you rented that first

1084
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 3: floor apartment of the Victorian house, you would pay five

1085
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 3: thousand a month, especially because it's.

1086
00:53:55,160 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: Upper hat at least. Yeah, my comedy hometown was Off Texas.

1087
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 4: I moved there in like ninety nine, and Margaret, I

1088
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 4: remember you being there. I just remember how cool you

1089
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 4: were because you were politically active. I didn't know comics

1090
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 4: could make have uh sway things politically like you did.

1091
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: Although yeah, the.

1092
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 4: Same sex marriage stuff way early two thousands and I.

1093
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: But wasn't there. I maybe it wasn't in Austin.

1094
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 4: I don't know where it was, but didn't like police

1095
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 4: come to your I remember some kind.

1096
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 2: Of thing that happened with me and Bruce Daniels. I

1097
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 2: believe it was like we had protesters in like Houston

1098
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 2: or something, which was super weird. Oh, it was a

1099
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: whole like anti gay thing. And then there was like

1100
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 2: a bomb threat in a There was like mine threats

1101
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: in different places like Houston and Atlanta. Sometimes. The early

1102
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: two thousands was really weird to get like trolled by conservatives, Yeah,

1103
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: because it was very it was pretty violent, you know,

1104
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: and you would get like, yeah.

1105
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 4: That's what I bring it up. It's like your way

1106
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 4: ahead of your time. I mean that that kind of

1107
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 4: thing probably happens to comedians all the time.

1108
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 1: Now, well it's because of Instagram. Very weird.

1109
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: It's definitely different.

1110
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 4: That was like early two thousands, right, I remember I

1111
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 4: thought you got arrested or something. I didn't know the

1112
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 4: whole story, but yeah, I thought it was so cool.

1113
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very cool. It was very cool. Thank you.

1114
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 2: But it's definitely something that I think now people sort

1115
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 2: of take for granted, you know, political comics. But back

1116
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,439
Speaker 2: then it was definitely different.

1117
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: It was for sure, and it was the kind of

1118
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: thing work, good work.

1119
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 3: Did you see that thing when this Britney Spears the

1120
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 3: conservatorship and everything, all that stuff came up and there

1121
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 3: was somebody posted the cover of Details magazine from two

1122
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 3: thousand and three and she's on the cover, but all

1123
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 3: of the little like headline kind of things of what

1124
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 3: the different articles were in that magazine were so atrociously

1125
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 3: awful and agro and missa genistic and crazy, and I

1126
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 3: was like, oh, that's right, that was just regular to

1127
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 3: us like that. The generation that we came up in

1128
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 3: in comedy, especially female comics, were so used to this

1129
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 3: kind of like serious ship and real active and like

1130
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 3: very pointed misogynistic shit, like just constantly, and you were

1131
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 3: just kind of like, yeah, that's just how it is.

1132
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: You.

1133
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a normal joke with her and the

1134
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 4: little kids from Full House, like ooh, countdown to eighteenth yoursday,

1135
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 4: like on a mainstream magazine.

1136
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally.

1137
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 2: It is so disgusting, but it's like even dogs Dogs.

1138
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: She didn't like it. She didn't like it at all.

1139
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: Well, she's like Amanda Bynes, his next, she needs to.

1140
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: Be needs to be dated for sure.

1141
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was such a it was like a

1142
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: reaction against feminism because I think it was like the

1143
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 2: Riot girl movement had really made an impression on people

1144
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: and bands like Hole and all of this stuff that

1145
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 2: was coming out of Seattle, like everything like was going

1146
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: on that was a real testament to being a woman

1147
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: and like Lilith Fair and stuff like that. So there

1148
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: was this kind of counter thing of like, now we're

1149
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: post feminism, we can make fun of women because they're equals, right,

1150
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: their equals right.

1151
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 3: Oh but it wasn't well because it wasn't funny. It

1152
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 3: was like countdown to their eighteenth birthday where.

1153
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: It's like it especially look at this is some whoever's.

1154
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 3: At the center of this has an issue that they

1155
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 3: need to sign.

1156
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: I didn't make that up, No, no, no, that was what

1157
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: I was talking about.

1158
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like a disturbing And also then you

1159
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 3: think about that where it was like yeah it was

1160
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 3: Britney Spears and it was Christina Aguilera and they were

1161
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 3: being dressed up like school girls, and they were part

1162
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 3: of a machine that was absolutely you know, like guiding

1163
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 3: them that way isn't like this is my artistic expression.

1164
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 2: It's really scary.

1165
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, no wonder we were on so many drugs. What

1166
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: we spos to.

1167
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: Well doing to be a smart woman then was to

1168
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: really kind of like always be gas lit by society

1169
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 2: and be questioning your choices and questioning your presence. And

1170
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,959
Speaker 2: in comedy it was really hard to know like where

1171
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: do we belong or where should we exist? Even I

1172
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 2: think that's why I I we all like really worshiped

1173
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: Jenny Garoffalo because she was so sure and who she

1174
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: was what she was doing, Like how can somebody be.

1175
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: So sure from the beginning?

1176
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 3: Yeah for real and so funny like yeah and yeah,

1177
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 3: kind of the permission to the permission to be that

1178
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 3: way and to kind of really try to try to

1179
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 3: work to be that way as opposed to working to please,

1180
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 3: you know, the audience, which probably is predominantly men. They're

1181
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 3: just it was just such a weird, like looking back now,

1182
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, yeah, there were these decisions we

1183
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 3: were all kind of making without discussing it because it

1184
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 3: wasn't it wasn't of the time at all. And in fact,

1185
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 3: that was back when like when people would be asked

1186
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 3: actresses would be asked if they were feminists back then,

1187
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 3: and it would be like, oh no, I like everybody.

1188
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: They would give these answers that would break to my heart.

1189
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 3: It would just be like wait off, like why would

1190
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 3: you say that? Thinking that it would be the easiest

1191
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 3: thing in the world to, yes, declare yourself a feminist

1192
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 3: because you're a successful woman being interviewed for a magazine,

1193
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 3: and it would be just be like, oh no, I

1194
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 3: don't like any of that stuff that alienates people, where

1195
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 3: it's like you don't like being paid the same as

1196
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 3: the guy that does the same job as you, Like,

1197
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 3: what are you talking about?

1198
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh I didn't know. I didn't realize that's what

1199
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 4: it meant.

1200
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: Will you see the one have to get into a

1201
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: fight because there was this idea that feminists were like

1202
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: angry and man hating and had to wear overalls or whatever.

1203
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, maybe it's a way of dismissing it.

1204
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 4: I don't want to get in that argument or even

1205
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 4: that discussion right now, so I'll just say I like everyone,

1206
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 4: so we can move on to.

1207
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 2: I would wear overalls with like a bra, Like who

1208
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: is this person? Like that's so weird to me now,

1209
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: Like the last time.

1210
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 3: Well, first of all it was in fashion and it

1211
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,959
Speaker 3: was that kind of thing where it was like that's

1212
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 3: that thrift stor thing of like make an outfit out

1213
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 3: of this old garbage. But the time I was on

1214
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 3: TV the America's Funniest People, I was wearing overall short

1215
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 3: oh how cute overalls on the top and then cut

1216
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 3: off at the knees and rolled up.

1217
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: That's a door party at the bottom.

1218
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so funny because I knew you. And when

1219
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 4: that I saw that in a rerun you I don't

1220
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 4: know where you were.

1221
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: I thought it was like the Venice Beach. It was

1222
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: old sack.

1223
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 3: I just started stand up like three months before I

1224
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 3: did that.

1225
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: Well, it was like a Valley Shakespeare blades.

1226
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 4: Hey, I remember thinking it was. I remember thinking it

1227
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 4: was funny. It's like, well that wasn't a home video.

1228
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 4: That was just early comedian where.

1229
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah they were.

1230
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 3: They told everybody come down and you might be on TV.

1231
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 3: And then I drove down there with Dave. I'll never

1232
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 3: forget that. I drove down there. We drove by and

1233
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 3: there was like a crowd. There was just one guy

1234
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 3: with a you know, like a camera on his shoulder

1235
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 3: and a person holding the mic and then like a

1236
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 3: small crowd, probably fifteen people, and I.

1237
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: Was like, keep going, I can't do this, like I keep.

1238
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 3: Driving, and Dave's like noking, and you're going to go and.

1239
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: Do it, and he made me do it.

1240
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 4: And the other people were doing magic tricks or handstands

1241
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 4: and were like.

1242
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 3: Knock knock jokes. It was like, you know, it was

1243
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 3: America's funniest people. It was just like, what do you

1244
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 3: got funny?

1245
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: Tell us? How are you funny?

1246
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 3: You know?

1247
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: I still couldn't do that. We got to start somewhere.

1248
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 4: This isn't the time of the place, and I'd walk away.

1249
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 3: I can't just be funny off the top of my head.

1250
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 3: I mean it was that too. Was that kind of

1251
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 3: thing where starting stand up was such a scary thing,

1252
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 3: like I wanted to do it so bad, but I

1253
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 3: was so scared. Like the first time I did it,

1254
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 3: I've told the story a thousand times on this podcast,

1255
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 3: but I went hysterically blind for like five seconds before

1256
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 3: I did my first set.

1257
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: And it was that kind of thing, but somehow I

1258
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: did it anyway.

1259
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 3: And then once you're kind of over that hulmp, It's

1260
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 3: like then you're in the mix.

1261
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: And you're like, Okay, what's next and where do I go?

1262
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: And how do you know? Where do I do sets?

1263
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: And how do I keep doing this?

1264
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: Was that at the Metro?

1265
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that's right, Yeah, the Metro.

1266
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 4: That's why we all of our stories are about drinking

1267
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 4: and doing drugs because I was a pretty good kid.

1268
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1269
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 4: I guess I drank in college, but I was so

1270
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 4: scared to be on stage because who the hell is comfortable?

1271
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: Oh, it's totally normal that I'm in front of people.

1272
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 4: Of course I drank in order to be It's it's

1273
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 4: like an occupational hazard. And if you live somewhere like

1274
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 4: Austin where it's like, hey, here's your cigarettes and your

1275
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 4: your open my comedy kit and your shiner beer. I

1276
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 4: every night was how I would get on stage. Otherwise

1277
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 4: I don't think I would have done it. Not that

1278
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 4: I'm crediting alcohol with starting my career, but it kind

1279
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 4: of did. It's just it unfortunately sticks because it's also

1280
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 4: very addictive. Yeah yeah, yeah, no more no more sober

1281
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 4: sober stage time.

1282
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: Well, certainly nobody's better performance.

1283
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 3: So it helps you get no, it never has, but

1284
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 3: then once you're there, you actually have to do something.

1285
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1286
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't have actual performance and it sort of

1287
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 2: it just gets in the way later, like, but it

1288
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: does help you get the over the fear or the dread.

1289
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. And then afterwards everything the celebration of I

1290
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: just did that. So I'm going to drink nineteen beers

1291
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: no fun or.

1292
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 4: Or I didn't do well. Let me have eighteen piers

1293
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 4: because I didn't do well. It's one lass beer.

1294
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll by having one less beer.

1295
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'll drink a whole bottle of Maker's Mark

1296
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: and then I'll call up a Pilates commercial.

1297
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: Or machine will do it for me. This machine will make.

1298
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 2: Me do it all.

1299
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 4: I hope that machine finally shows.

1300
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: Up, Margaret, it's still not here.

1301
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 4: It's so hard, you know, they make that same thing

1302
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 4: happened with this refrigerator I ordered.

1303
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: Karen's tired of hearing about it.

1304
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 3: Chris ordered himself a four foot refrigerator from across the country.

1305
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he got it was like retro. It was

1306
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: maroon a snag. It's like that but nicer.

1307
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, it looks like a classic hot rod for

1308
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 4: a dad to have Coca A collection. Yes, it's got

1309
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 4: flames up the side and a spider Man mural.

1310
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: But it took I ordered.

1311
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 4: I didn't want to get it from home to or whatever,

1312
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 4: so I ordered it from some old guy and he

1313
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 4: put it on a post a note and it fell

1314
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 4: behind a desk whatever.

1315
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: It took like five months.

1316
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 4: But maybe that's what's happening with your pilates machine, Tony

1317
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 4: Little is.

1318
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 3: Just that's like the operator at that place is like

1319
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 3: finally moves over some like some papers over and it's like, what's.

1320
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: The oh shoe two four h oh? I got to

1321
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: express this. We don't even make those anywhore.

1322
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 3: I recently moved and then got rid of a bunch

1323
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 3: of stuff that was in my garage, and there was

1324
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 3: a pilates machine that I had ordered and I had

1325
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 3: never touched it.

1326
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: So it came.

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01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 3: I set it up, and then I put it in

1328
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 3: a closet and never just never even tried to use it.

1329
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have yoga mats that my cat had

1330
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 2: pete all over that I'd never even enrolled. They're in

1331
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 2: the garden. It's like, I just I don't know why

1332
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 2: I think buying it's enough.

1333
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 3: I don't want to do anything right that moment that

1334
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 3: you have when you're watching it and you're like, this

1335
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 3: is it I'm going to change.

1336
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: This is how I'm going to be different. It's so funny.

1337
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 4: I ordered one of those half balls with a surface.

1338
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: On the other it's like a balance ball.

1339
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 4: So I'm like, well, that'll get if I leave it

1340
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 4: in the living room and it's right here on the floor.

1341
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,479
Speaker 4: If I leave it there, I'll it'll make me every

1342
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 4: time I walk by it, I'll have to do some crunches.

1343
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 4: But no, I just step over it or stub my

1344
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 4: toe on it. So far, it's been a real hazard.

1345
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 3: I did that with a mini trampoline because I was like, hey,

1346
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 3: when I'm watching TV, it's all that stuff, and it's

1347
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 3: like the first time I tried to do it, I

1348
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 3: was like, a mini trampoline is hard. Like if you

1349
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 3: stop doing it and then you're just trying to continue

1350
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 3: bouncing for half an hour, I was immediately exhausted, Like

1351
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 3: this isn't fucking fun.

1352
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: I was so mad. Yeah, you think you're going to

1353
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 1: be doing little backflips.

1354
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 3: Now you immediately are like, ooh, my die muscles, I

1355
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 3: never use these.

1356
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: Well have we done it? Have we talked about everything?

1357
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: I mean, we've done we've done it.

1358
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 4: I just wanted to tell Margaret I watched Face Off

1359
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 4: the other night and I kept pausing it. I did

1360
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 4: not know you were in Face Off, So I just

1361
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 4: wanted to say that it was so awesome that you

1362
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 4: were ate.

1363
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 2: So much pie during the making of that movie that

1364
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 2: they had to add a stretchy panel to the back

1365
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 2: of the suit. Because the movie takes place over I

1366
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 2: think the span of about a week, but we filmed

1367
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 2: over a year and a half because of all the stunts.

1368
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: So I had to actually add a stretchy elastic in

1369
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 2: the back of my suit because I.

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01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: Was someone bringing pies to set.

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01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was eating pie with John Travolta like

1372
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 2: he was. He started to invite me into his trailer

1373
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 2: for lunch. Yes, I don't know why, but we would

1374
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 2: just eat and he yeah, but we would eat like

1375
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 2: some kind of paste, like a beep Wellington for lunch

1376
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 2: and then pie. And then one time he ate a

1377
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 2: whole boys and Berry pie just to the head with

1378
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 2: one pie to the head with a with a fork,

1379
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 2: just no slices the lie. And so that's the kind

1380
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: of eating that I was like accustomed to over the year,

1381
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 2: like a king like him, and so I gained so

1382
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 2: much weight that there's like a stretchy panel on the back.

1383
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 2: They were so mad at me at the costume department,

1384
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 2: but you know.

1385
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 3: Oh, I felt that coustomers customers hate it when you're

1386
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 3: a size eight. So I can't imagine what would happen

1387
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 3: if you had to have them add a panel.

1388
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 2: They had to cut it and then sew it in

1389
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 2: because they had to have the same suit.

1390
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 1: Because we were like.

1391
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 2: Shooting I think the beginning of a scene like in January,

1392
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 2: but then the end of the scene like in December.

1393
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 1: So it was a very it.

1394
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 3: Was it was rough, but that was really I remember

1395
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 3: when that came out. It was so exciting because aren't

1396
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 3: you an FBI agent or like a you're a some kind.

1397
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like an FBI agent. So it's one

1398
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: of the you know the movie The Conceit is like

1399
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 2: half of the movie it's like John Devolden. The other

1400
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 2: half is Nick the case. He was really he's in

1401
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 2: character the whole time, so he was really mean to us,

1402
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 2: like the first part of the film. For the first

1403
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 2: six months, he was just an asshole, okay, and in

1404
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 2: the next six months, Yeah, next six months. He was

1405
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 2: really nice because he's in character for the whole time.

1406
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,759
Speaker 1: Oh shit, so method. It was so method.

1407
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 2: So it was like certain, like it's scary to work

1408
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 2: with somebody that's kind of in character the whole time.

1409
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if he does that now,

1410
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 2: but it was really scary then.

1411
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 4: And of course he's the scariest persons all the days,

1412
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 4: but he's Yeah, but he would make I would be

1413
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 4: scared to be near him well.

1414
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 3: Because that he's like one of those like uh Steppenwolf

1415
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 3: rock and roll actors where he's like in it into

1416
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 3: the max and whatever, like, and he's so accomplished that

1417
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 3: like it's like a tornado where he's gonna come on

1418
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 3: and like make it his own.

1419
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1420
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 3: And that's the kind of thing like anytime I've ever

1421
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 3: done any kind of acting, the second anything happens that

1422
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 3: I didn't anticipate, I'm like, oh, I shouldn't be doing this,

1423
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 3: Like it makes me weirdly like all my I just

1424
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to be in a scene, even if

1425
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 3: I was just supposed to be standing there, because I

1426
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 3: would get so like freaked out by actual like and

1427
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 3: that's the whole game of acting is like you come

1428
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 3: in and you're this persona and you're you know, like

1429
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 3: your energy and all that stuff, and.

1430
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: I would just be like, ooh, it don't it's scary.

1431
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 2: It was scary because I was in a scene with

1432
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 2: Nick once that he's he's I supposed to yell for

1433
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 2: the medic and then he collapses, but he decided that

1434
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 2: he wanted to collapse first before I yelled medic. So

1435
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 2: I kept on doing it as it was written, and

1436
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: then he just turned to like, well, you just wait

1437
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 2: for me to fucking call it. And John Willcoms He's like, oh,

1438
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: do wait for him to.

1439
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: Call it?

1440
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 2: And I was like so like mortified, you know, like

1441
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 2: I'm just doing what was the script that I was

1442
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 2: just like so scared, But you know, it's just that's how.

1443
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: It is, how it is. What is this show you're in? Kim?

1444
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 4: Joel Booster has been on our show before, and he's terrific.

1445
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: You're you're in a show with him? Right?

1446
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I did a movie with him in Bowie Yang

1447
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 2: called Fire Island, which is a reimagining of Pride and

1448
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 2: Prejudice but with all Asian gay men, and it's really

1449
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 2: really fun and.

1450
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: We just finished, it's beautiful. What part are you in

1451
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: pride and prejudice?

1452
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 2: I'm the mom. I'm the mom.

1453
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1454
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 2: So it's like all of my daughters are going to

1455
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 2: find mister Darcy. And it's really I had such a

1456
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 2: great time with them and they're so funny. We had

1457
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 2: our own podcast network, so Joel's is for Your Confirmation

1458
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 2: is his podcast, and then Bowen's is The Yang Over,

1459
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 2: which I think is a really good one. And so

1460
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 2: it's like, I just I love them. There's just the

1461
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,959
Speaker 2: new generation kids take it over gay comedy.

1462
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 3: I love Bowen Yang is killing it on SNL so

1463
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 3: hard and so in such a beautiful way. It's just

1464
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 3: such an exciting thing. And Joel comb Booster is like

1465
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 3: I remember when I first saw him, like outside a

1466
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 3: club or where you know some some are people doing sets,

1467
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 3: and he really does look like a model.

1468
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: Like he funny, there's.

1469
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,440
Speaker 2: No way, he's so funny, truly, really.

1470
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 1: One of the best stand ups.

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01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 2: He's such a great stand up and he's such a

1472
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 2: great writer, and he's just so beautiful, so beautiful. He's

1473
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 2: such a but everybody on that film is so gorgeous,

1474
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 2: and it was like all these guys and they all

1475
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 2: worspitos and you know, than me, just like eating bye.

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01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 1: You with your boys and berry pie. Yeah, my whole pie.

1477
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 1: But it's like they're all had like veins.

1478
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 2: On their stomach. Their bodies are so perfect.

1479
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 1: It's like, what the hell ya.

1480
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 3: The twenty twenty one days? I think the pressure is immense.

1481
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 3: It's it's so very much like the Calista Flockhart nineties

1482
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 3: for us, is how it is for them today. Yeah,

1483
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 3: because it's they're all perfect. I mean, they're like, it's

1484
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 3: it's crazy, but that's so cool. I So that's a

1485
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 3: movie that's going to come out.

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01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 2: It's a movie that's coming out, and so that we

1487
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 2: just wrapped that a couple of weeks ago. Oh okay,

1488
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 2: So so I think it'll probably it'll probably be at

1489
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 2: next summer. It's a big summer movie.

1490
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 1: Amazing. What else? What else? Any other plugs?

1491
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:51,919
Speaker 2: H plugs?

1492
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 3: Is?

1493
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 2: I'm doing stand up? I am at Largo the day

1494
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: before Halloween. I don't know if this will be on

1495
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 2: by then, but then I'll be at Oh and then

1496
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 2: I'm going to Recivic for the flight attendant for a while.

1497
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:06,839
Speaker 1: Are you the TV show? Yeah?

1498
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 4: Wow?

1499
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: Oh? If Michelle Gomez is still on it. Please say

1500
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: hi to her for me.

1501
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1502
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was the greatest. Yeah.

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01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 2: I don't know yet, but I will be there starting

1504
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 2: in a little bit, so I'm a few.

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01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: Iceland. Have you been there, Margaret, No, I've never been there.

1506
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: I haven't been either. I want to go so bad.

1507
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it.

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01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 1: Yeah that's awesome. Yeah cool.

1509
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to all of the Goodman's daughters, all

1510
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 2: the what is it, Goodman's son, Goodman's daughters, that's all

1511
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 2: their names are, Yeah, basically. Yeah.

1512
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 3: Oh I thought you were talking about York's extended family.

1513
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 2: No, but they're like so many of them. Yes, there's

1514
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 2: like a like like pretty much everybody's named that they Yes.

1515
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: And also everybody lives like the southern uh, just a

1516
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,799
Speaker 1: little southern arc of the whole island.

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01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 3: It's just that everybody lives down here because the rest

1518
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 3: of it is volcanoes and ice. Oh wow, a magical place.

1519
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never been, so I'm really looking forward to it.

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01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: Margaret. Thank you for being here with us. You're the best.

1521
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 2: Thank you, You're the best.

1522
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're the coolest. It's really good to meet you.

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01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 2: So awesome. Thank you.

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01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it for us, right, Yeah, yeah, you've been

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01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 4: You've been listening to Do You Need Ride d yn Aar.

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01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 1: This has been an exactly right production.

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01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 3: Produced by Analise Nelson.

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01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,839
Speaker 1: Engineered by Stephen Ray.

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01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,759
Speaker 3: Morris, mixed by Roy Tanaka.

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01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,520
Speaker 1: Theme song by Karen Kilgara, artwork by Chris Fairbanks.

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01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 4: Follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook at dinar

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