1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. 4 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: It is a Tuesday here in Pittsburgh. I kind of 5 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: my days are all kind of Oh, I bet you're 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: jumbled up right now, loobulated. Yeah. Um, have to get 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: back on another for another road trip on Sunday. Well, 8 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: at least the short ones. Well let's still get a 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: drive there. Um, you know, four hours on a four 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: and a half hours on a plane, four hours in 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: a car. Yeah, here's the difference. At least I guess 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: there's a hotel, but not two nights and all that 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: stuff you have to deal with to get back. Yeah. 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: West Coast games, I just dea yeah. But Steelers go 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles and drop a forty seven game to 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: the Chargers. And I don't know about you, Matt, but 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: we haven't had chances to change. No, I don't know 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the game at all. Um, I'll tell 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: you when when I know that. You know, the the 20 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: Chargers coaching staff has been a lotted this year for 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: being so aggressive and all this stuff and yeah. I 22 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: get an email every Monday or actually every uh what 23 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: day is today? Yeah, Monday, Today is Tuesday, but from 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: from one of these analyticalytics websites that says, you know 25 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: everything that they did. You know they had the number 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: one analytical move of the week. It was going for 27 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: it on fourth down at your own thirty four in 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: a tie ball game. Late in the tie ball game, 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: I didn't front the ball away there, That's right, that's 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: just dumb, it is. I mean, it might be different 31 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: if you have Jerome Bettis behind Webby Hannah Larry Allen. 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: You know, if you have a massive advantage there and 33 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure you're gonna get it more often 34 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: than you're not. But the ramifications for not are brutal, 35 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: ridiculously Yeah. I mean, I look at that ball again. 36 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: When Steelers kicked the field goal on that First of all, 37 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: the play sequence, um, coming out of the stop, Um 38 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: you pass to Claypool. Um, you didn't have Naja Harris available. 39 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: It was Calin Balage in the backfield. I'm a little rusty. 40 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: I haven't thought this game for I'm onto Cincinnati. Yeah, 41 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean, so I'm trying to the sequence of how 42 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: things ever you know how they all went down. Then 43 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: the seven yard game to James James Washington, which he's 44 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: pushed out of bounds and people are, why did you 45 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: go out of bounds? He didn't go out of bounds, 46 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: he got pushed out of bound. Uh. And then the 47 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: incompletion down the field to Deonte Johnson him which there 48 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: was a past interference penalty called and they picked up 49 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: the flag. Um, he was clearly grabbed. He was grabbed. 50 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I would have it could have been 51 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: a defensive hold. Um. You know all that aside. You know, 52 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: if you have naj Harris available there, you probably run 53 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: the football. I would imagine at least twice in that 54 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: sequence to run some time off the clock because you 55 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: got bossl with here. You're already in field goal range 56 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: at the thirty four. Um. That being said, you still 57 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: can't give up a fifty three yard touchdown pass in 58 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: that situation. No, no, absolutely not. That was an inexcusable 59 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: play in itself. Um, I mean it was a blown 60 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: coverage obviously, you know. I mean, and you keep hearing, well, 61 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: if Minka is there, that doesn't happen. I don't know, 62 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean probably, I don't think it does. I mean, 63 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: I bet it doesn't, because I would be willing I 64 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: would be willing to bet that he at least would 65 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: have known where to be at in the coverage because 66 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: or he at least gets there and knocks him out 67 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: of bounds. That the rotation was. The rotation was a 68 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: blitz from Milette in the slot. Steelers didn't blitz a 69 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: lot in this game. Um, but they blitzed Milette out 70 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: of the slot. Cam Sutton Road takes in to pick 71 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: up Keenan Allen because he was outside on Mike Williams, 72 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: Sutton or Norwood is over the top. He's supposed to 73 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: take the outside guy because nobody's on him with a 74 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: big cushion, you know. Um, And he never got there 75 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: and never got there and it was late and didn't 76 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: seem to recognize it, and you know, we know, so 77 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: makea Fitzpatrick. I'm gonna I'm sure he at least yes 78 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: understands his responsibilities on that play. That doesn't mean Williams 79 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: wasn't make the catch or shrugs off attackle or who knows, 80 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: but you've had a lot better chance of success. They 81 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: may not even throw it if make it fits bad 82 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: that the ball may go somewhere else, right, You're the 83 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: bust was on the new guy playing a new position, 84 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: you know. I mean I think that was pretty clear. Um. 85 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: Such a crazy game though, I mean, unbelievable game. Yeah, 86 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: forty one point scoring in the fourth quarter. Yeah, I 87 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: said when it came in and sat down, it was 88 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: exactly the kind of script that the Chargers had in 89 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: their game against the Browns earlier this year. Yeah. That 90 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: Chargers defense isn't great, that's for sure. Um, you know, 91 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: weather wasn't a problem as it was over a lot 92 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: of games recently around the league. Was Ben's and the 93 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: offense's best game of the season. Yeah, And I thought 94 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: that was a positive about this because you didn't know. 95 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: I actually took more positive than negatives out of this 96 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: game because because of who you're playing with. I know, 97 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: I don't I never want to make excuses while you're 98 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: missing guys. Every team's missing guys at this point in 99 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: the season. Um, yeah, the Chargers didn't have everyone, right, Yeah, 100 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: so it is what it is. Um, you gave yourself 101 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: again an opportunity to win the football game in the 102 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: closing moments in a game in which you were down 103 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: seventeen points and couldn't stop a soul. I mean, you're 104 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: down three scores in the fourth quarter. As they put 105 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: the graphic up the Steelers in their history, I think 106 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: are now two oh and two thirty one many points 107 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: because as is everybody else in the least. Yeah, that's 108 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: just the normal winning percentage in the league. It's not like, oh, 109 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers are really bad coming back from twenty point 110 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: deficits or the fourth quarter. In the fourth quarter, Um, 111 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: I don't know big picture thoughts for that game though. Frankly, 112 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: the defense was JV at best. I mean, and too many. 113 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: You had too many guys. You had four guys in 114 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: that game essentially playing their first snaps of the season. 115 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: There was they brought three guys up off the practice squad, 116 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: had never heard of, they weren't on the flip card, 117 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: and three of them they yeah, okay, I knew who 118 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: Joseph was. The other two dudesn't know who they were. 119 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: And there was a lot of guys that should play 120 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: never or maybe due to injury, they come in and 121 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: clean up the fourth quarter type of thing. That being said, 122 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: I wrote something after the game about the Steelers best 123 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: unit on defense that they put out there their best eleven. 124 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: I thought Cam Heyward was the only above average starter 125 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: in his position by NFL standards, you know, I mean, 126 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: like Hi Smith is promising. I don't know if he's 127 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: above average starter. I'm not even talking about pro bowler. 128 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: I thought he had a good game. Actually I wrote 129 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: a blur about him too. I thought that he was 130 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: very impressive, and I thought they were smart to move 131 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: him the watch side. He didn't get the better advantage, 132 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: you know. But they were playing with subpar players before 133 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: they got to their depth. You know what I mean 134 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: to me, I mean, well, I let Sutton he's an 135 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: above average NFL league average players. Yeah, there's there's some 136 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: of those out there without show Bird and you know, right, 137 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, but one star um. But overall, the defense, 138 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: to me, was not competitive, and pretty much anyone they 139 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 1: played against would have moved the ball just about anyway 140 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: they wanted, and we absolutely saw that. But the Chargers 141 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: best guys brought their a games. Keenan Allen obviously, Eckler 142 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: and Herbert Slater. William showed up, Mike Williams showed up 143 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: the first time in a while. And the fact that 144 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers were close to winning that game. To me, 145 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: it was a massive testament to three guys that have 146 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: been foundational pieces, pieces of this organization for a long time, 147 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: and that's Cam Heyward, Ben Roethlisberger and Mike Tomlin. You know, 148 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: I don't see anyone giving Tomlin any praise for that game. 149 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: I thought, well, of course, not because they lost one 150 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: of his best coaching performances I've ever seen. You know, 151 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: he had no cards in his hand, and he was 152 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: still sitting at the table, you know, with with Teddy 153 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: KGB pulling oreos, you know, not he didn't get an 154 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: ace all day. You know, he had nothing all night 155 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: at long chick Um. I thought, you know, the culture 156 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: of the toughness showed up with those three leaders, coaching staff, offense, 157 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: defense greatly. And I know it's a loss and it 158 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: hurts you, But why I took more in positives and 159 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: negatives are the defense is going to get better, you know, 160 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: they're getting guys. But the offense showed some signs. They 161 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: threw the ball. It was Ben's best game, you know. 162 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if you can get close to that Ben, 163 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: they'll be in all these games going forward, you know, 164 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: I mean, so he threw it was he was forty 165 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: four for two seventy three yards, three touchdown passes, no interceptions. 166 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: He's now gone five games with that. In the interception 167 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: it's been like early October. Now. He threw I think 168 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: one pass in that game that could have been picked. Yeah, yeah, 169 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: and there's been a few that happen. Yeah, you know, 170 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: that's that's just the reality of the situation. His last 171 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: two games in which he has not practiced the week 172 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: leading up to Bengals. The Bengals last year he threw 173 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: for three sixty and four touchdowns. That's the magical. This 174 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: one he was to seventy three and three touchdowns and 175 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: get no picks in the game. Well, I haven't practiced 176 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: at all, Right, that's practice on Wednesdays. Maybe they should 177 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: just not haven't practiced at all, don't even come to 178 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: the facility and you go away, right, just show up 179 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: and pay with your kids. Absolutely, keep your mind right, right. 180 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: And I know people were complaining about the Steeler run game. 181 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: I think the game script gave them no chance to 182 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: running game they had. They had fourteen carries for fifty 183 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: three yards in the first half. That's not great, but 184 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: it's not bad if you look at the path, they 185 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: go on everything. The Vikings did the same thing against 186 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: the Chargers the week before starting them. They had a 187 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: hundred and four yards rushing. They get to Alvin Cook, 188 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: he had nineties rushing yards on twenties six carries. He 189 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: averaged less than four years of caring. They are now 190 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: selling out to stop the run, and they did it 191 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: throughout that game. They were not going to let fire Mouth. 192 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: We're Naja Harris get loose for big games. Derwin James 193 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: is like basically shadowing Firemouth every every time he was 194 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: on the field. He was down in the box constantly. Um, 195 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: that was just not they had a script. Does I 196 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: mean those two guys have now scored in the fire 197 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: Mouth they get in the end zone, but they have 198 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: twelve of the Steelers twenty two touchdowns this year. Yeah, 199 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: they're foundational young players and if you're gonna dedicate Derwin 200 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: James to one of them, that speaks volumes of what 201 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: you know opposing coaches think of the young tight end. 202 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: I think everybody is the same opinion on Nazi. Um 203 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: where was I going with that? My mind is so 204 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: Bengals oriented right now already because we got you know, 205 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: I haven't gotten there yet. I gotta hit that tonight. Yeah. 206 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: I started really this morning, but also last night during 207 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: the games and stuff. But that was the same thing 208 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: like Joe Mixing average like two yards to carry in 209 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: the first half against the Raiders and then just ripped them, 210 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: you know, I just tore them apart. I'm pretty convinced 211 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: if they would have been able to continually pound the 212 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: way with Naja Harris, at some point he breaks a 213 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: twenty yard or a couple of ten yards, and you know, 214 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: it's just it looks much better than it did. You know. 215 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: As it is, he ends up with twelve carries for 216 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: thirty nine yards, only ran the ball four times in 217 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: the second half because the game script again, you're down, 218 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, you're down seventeen ten at a half. The 219 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: charges come out and go up. You haven't stopped them yet. 220 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: So you know, if you're sitting there in the size 221 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: the if you're Mike Tom and you're telling, hey, we 222 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: got to go in the past first mode here, oh 223 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: we can't play small ball anymore. And after that need 224 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: to and want to. I mean, they had there was 225 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: no choice. I mean, because their defense. I'm gonna say 226 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: this eight thousand times today. Their defense gave them no 227 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: shot to do anything else. So this is as good 228 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: as it could have been. I mean, like, for example, 229 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: you couldn't blitz because you didn't make it a make 230 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: up for it. Um, you couldn't spy Herbert because you 231 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: needed those four pass rushers and you really needed seven 232 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: coverage players. It's not a guy that just spied any 233 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: of you had a hundred seventeen rushing year. It scores 234 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: into that game. You don't like that that he's a 235 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, right, You don't have extra defenders and these 236 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: you're you needed. It was like you're playing with ten 237 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: to begin with, you know. I mean they were so 238 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: hamstrong because their defense was not going to stop them. Ever, 239 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: that being said, the defense made a big play, huge play, 240 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: huge play. Um the one time, the one time the 241 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: Chargers punted in the game. These special teams made a 242 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: big play which got you back into the game. The 243 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: biggest two players the game without question. And then all 244 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Stealer Nations towels are flying and the 245 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: world thinks you're gonna do it, and the Charges are 246 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: blown their share of games over the years, and you're say, 247 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: they're thinking, Wow, they got a shot, which I couldn't believe. 248 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: I mean, at halftime, I'm like, they're gonna lose my thirty, 249 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: and certainly when they went down, I mean it. You know, 250 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: they went three and out after the Chargers scored on 251 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 1: that opening possession of the second half. That's all. I mean, 252 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: one three and out in a game like that, and 253 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: forget about it. I mean it was that bad defensively 254 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: from what they had left. The Steelers punted once in 255 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: that game. Let's not pretend the Chargers ever stopped them really, 256 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: except in this situation. It was fourth and goal from 257 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: the two. I'm calling that play out and it's in 258 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: the press box when they they motioned not j Harris 259 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: out of the backfield farm with motions into the wing 260 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: and like, oh, this is gonna be the inside the 261 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: toss to yeah right right, yeah, And Derwin James follows 262 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: him in there well you know, and he blows things 263 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: and does yeah. Um that that's probably a different conversation 264 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: since it's our first time getting together since the game. 265 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: I mean, the red zone offense and tight red zone offense, 266 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: to me, deserves to be criticized, you know. I mean, 267 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: you can't come out throw and and even if you're 268 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: gonna go for it on fourth, I think you need 269 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: to know that going into third down and you run 270 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: it on third, you know, I mean then you're stuck 271 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: and forth and everyone knows what you're gonna throw. You know, 272 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: like that stuff needs work for me. And again I 273 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: started really digging into sinse and doing my stats and stuff. 274 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: The Steelers throw the ball I think more than any 275 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: team in the league in the red zone. You know, 276 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: like that needs to stop. Yeah, I agree, it's become 277 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: too predictable, you know, and in the place the plays 278 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: have come become too predictable. Plays they ran and the 279 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: end around the clay pool the second time down there, 280 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: and it got he got stopped for a two yard 281 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: lost first and goal from the three, and you saw Roethlisberg. 282 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if they showed it on TV, but 283 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: he just looked over at the sideline and kind of 284 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: shrugged his shoulders and what are we doing? What are 285 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: we doing? You know. I asked him about it after 286 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: the game. I said, you know, were you frustrated their 287 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: It looked like he frustrated maybe with the play call, 288 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: because now I'm just frustrated that we're not you know, 289 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: getting the ball in the end zone is the cuterback. 290 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: But I think, I think right, I mean, I think 291 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: one of the issues. I mean, if you sat down 292 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: and break down every bit of it, because Kendrick Green 293 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: is not coming off the ball against nose tackles and 294 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: pushing them back, you know. I mean he's really good 295 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: blocking in space on the move, but coming off the 296 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: ball in short, somebody puts somebody over top of the bonus, 297 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: put a guy over top of him, and he gets 298 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: blown up and he's everyone knows it now too, you know. 299 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he better get darn used to it, or 300 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: you can spend next year. He's gonna have to spend 301 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: a lot of time in the in the weight room 302 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: this season. And I think a lot of us just 303 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: technique too. I mean, guards don't have zero techniques right 304 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: over their notes on you know. I talked to Dermany 305 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: Dawson about that, actually, um, when he was in town 306 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago for the actually for the when 307 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: they yeah, the Hall of the Hall of Fame thing. 308 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: This is like a month ago, and he's told me 309 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: that was the biggest because he was a guard, it's 310 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: a little different, right, he said, Yeah, I wasn't used 311 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: to having that guy line up on my note right 312 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: over top of me, zero shade right, he said. He said, 313 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: it was a game against Jerry Ball. Remember Jerry Ball 314 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: six big playing the Lions and get a big nose 315 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: tackle over top of me, Jerry Ball, and Jerry Ball 316 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: just blows by me because I didn't get my hands 317 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: up quick enough, you know. And he said that right 318 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: on top of you, he said, I learned from that 319 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: and got better, you know, because of it. But that 320 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: one game it wasn't good. And then they're the next 321 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: team to do it, the next thing you to do it. 322 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: So I understand that there's an issue there that's not 323 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: getting solved immediately. But still you got that back and 324 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: you saw you saw Harris score shortly after I mean 325 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: he goes over the top, or he makes the already 326 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: on his own. I mean the tight red zone stuff 327 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: to me, or when they got that that opportunity, just 328 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: run it and run and run and run it. I 329 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: mean I understand not running and running it from start 330 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: to finish the game. You couldn't, but in situationally you 331 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: could have. Yeah, I agree, I agree, Um, you know, 332 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: listening to the Move the Sticks podcast, with Bucky Brooks 333 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: and Daniel Jeremiah And Daniel Jeremiah does the Charger games 334 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: and those two are former scouts and I think they 335 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: do great work. And they both were like, I don't 336 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: think I'd ever say this about the Steelers, but that's soft, 337 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, like that that sends a message that we're 338 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: going to run end of rounds on the three. You know, 339 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 1: like Jerome Bettis and Bill Kaour and Chuck Noll are 340 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: not cool with that. It's trying to understand that there's 341 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, the Steelers would love to do that. Don't 342 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: just trust it yet, but you gotta you gotta know 343 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: you do what do you do it once and you 344 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: catch the opposing team by surprise. You do it over 345 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: and over and over again down there and it surprises nobody. 346 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: And I mean you knew the play was coming. And 347 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: let alone Dorwin James like they do film study too, 348 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: they can recognize formations and that kind of tremendous player. 349 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: Like yeah, so I don't again, though, I I have 350 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: more positive than negatives out of that game of where 351 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: his team is now, assuming these injuries fall back into place. 352 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: You know, Minka is coming back, and you know, well, 353 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: I mean Mike Tomlin saying today at this press conference, 354 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: he expects what back. He expects Menca back, he expects 355 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: Hayden back, and he expects louder Milk back. All four 356 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: guys who were out for Sunday's game back. I did 357 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: a video with Labs yesterday. He said it great. He's like, hey, 358 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: I like Isaia louder Milk. He looks like he's got 359 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: a bright future. But it shouldn't be that big a deal, 360 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And it was the US. 361 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you're you're getting twenty snaps out 362 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: of Henry Mond, and you know it's just everybody else 363 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: has to step up a notch from right, you know, 364 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean even warmly playing every snap is too much 365 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: for him. He's a four rights, right, That's what those 366 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 1: guys should be. And so you know, your death gets tested. 367 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 1: Cam's even more impressive than ever. I don't know the numbers, 368 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure if I don't even charge these things, 369 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: but watching as much every time they were in the 370 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: ball he was double teamed. I bet he gets double more. 371 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: Daron Donald, Yeah, I bet he gets doubled more than 372 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 1: any defensive tackle in the league. And I'm not just 373 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: make He's a lone ranger right now, it's pretty obvious. 374 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: And he still makes plays and still impacts the game 375 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: and chases the ball and beats double teams and holds 376 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: up against double teams. What he's doing is amazing. Yeah, 377 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: well he should have an easier go of it this 378 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: week against the Bengals. Yeah. I mean the Chargers strength 379 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: of their line um. They're like tackle stinks by the way, 380 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: left tackle doesn't, the left tackle does not um and 381 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: their interior guys filers okay layer. So I mean the 382 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: two guys that that were matts were lined up opposite 383 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: Cam were you know, two two of their better guys, 384 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: and they're making a lot of millions of dollars between 385 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: the two of them, right you know. Yeah, So, yeah, 386 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna be super impassed. Saw people. You only 387 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: had two tackles, but you're not watching you're not watching 388 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: the game, then you absolutely know nothing about football. If 389 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: he thought that was well, he he just didn't impact 390 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: the game, only had two tackles. I think it was 391 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: you and I talking about it on Friday. They had 392 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 1: so many conversations and by days are a little foggy 393 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: but that game was also a perfect interpretation of how 394 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: important Minka is if he's not even if he's not 395 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: picking off passes or locking down someone in man coverage, 396 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: Cam and him and certainly what but they influenced the 397 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: other players on the field so dramatically, and that I 398 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: mean one of those guys. And that's a different game. 399 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: I mean, of course we love that. Why but even 400 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: just Maka would opened up so many things for you 401 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: that they just didn't have. They as Tomlin said today, um, 402 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: their four man rush. They you know, if they have 403 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: what their four man rush, A gets there, t J 404 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: what would have had six sacks against he would have 405 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: killed that right now, Yeah, Storm Norwood or whatever. Yeah, 406 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, as it was Highsmith had had I think 407 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: three quarters they did as they gave him one and 408 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: a half or he had one and a half. Yeah, 409 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: actually had three quarterback hits. I only had five. Um, 410 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: but he the Mbers still getting the ball out super quick. 411 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 1: They made the move that we talked about last right 412 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: now and swapped high Smith over there, and he won 413 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: his share of the beat them. But that yeah, yeah, 414 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: I mean if you have him, yeah, if you have him, 415 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: if you have what available, well, now you know, now 416 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: you've got guys coming off on both sides that and 417 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: you also probably send fewer tight ends and patterns and 418 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: Ekeler and I mean that has a huge By the 419 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: end of the game, they were chipping Alex Highsmith, right, 420 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: he was the only guy there worried about edges, you know, right, 421 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: I mean having it. He may still lose the later 422 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: one on one, but then they got to put two 423 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: guys at least on what helped storm and again, and 424 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: then you can't double cam as much in those situations 425 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: because you know, it's just there's a trickle down effect 426 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: the whole way across the line, and you know, if 427 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: if what is there, do they lose contain as much 428 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: he does, Remember it have nine rushes for six rushes 429 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: for ninety three yards on before he takes three knees 430 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: at the end of it, I mean he ran through 431 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: some gaping holes. It was just you know, every tour 432 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: they were just pushing the pocket past him and he 433 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: was taking off. Yeah, and they weren't planned, you know, 434 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: they weren't quarterback designed. You know, there was just boy, 435 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: there's a huge lane here, I'm gonna take off. Four 436 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: of them were on third downs and long. That was 437 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: really untimely, of course, and the Stevens played a lot 438 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: of man so they had there was like you see 439 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: it on TV. I mean, there was one of the linebackers. 440 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: I don't even blame him there a man coverage. Herbert 441 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: runs like right behind him. You're watching, you know, like 442 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean, so he's developing quickly. And you know Aaron 443 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: Rodgers used to do that all the time, and he's 444 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: as athlete. People commenting about, well, what's Lamar Jackson when 445 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: you do them, Well, they're not gonna be playing man 446 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: defense that They're not gonna play at all, even with 447 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: the same eleven out there that I mean, if they 448 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't pay it that way, they wouldn't play that way 449 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: at all. I mean, you had to give up something 450 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: that was a weakness that they had to give up 451 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: because the cover Williams and Allen and they're tight ends 452 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: in l R. And you know they couldn't blitz like 453 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: crazy either, yea. So you know it was a loss, 454 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: to be sure, but it was not the the damning 455 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: loss that you know, It wasn't a killer loss. He 456 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: came out of it reasonably Healthybron and Ebron and Hassin 457 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: Hour are the only two that sounds like the ebron 458 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: thing could be extended. And we'll see. I mean, you know, 459 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: he was still standing on the sidelines after the knee injury, 460 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: so it's not like you know, they took him off 461 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: on a card or anything. Um and and Hassin Hours 462 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: a pectoral injury. We'll see what that is. But you know, again, 463 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: maybeople see B. J. Finney in the lineup. But yeah, 464 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: it was a little shocked it was Hoss, but I 465 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: didn't know really raise an eyebrow there. They did an 466 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: interesting thing though, too, that they don't ever do is 467 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: they put boasts over Hag there at the end. Usually 468 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: they leave him on the edge, moved him and do 469 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: much on the edge. No, he didn't on the edges, 470 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: but I mean I thought that was a positive as well. 471 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: Most of the time he was over chooks, other times 472 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: he was over more and you know he was silent. 473 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: He wasn't super disruptive. No, yeah, I agree, so interesting 474 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: and we'll see what happened. It's all still ahead of them, though. 475 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at it, you win these 476 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: next two games all of a sudden. Now you're sitting 477 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: there at seven four and one, and you know you 478 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: just handed to division opponents losses. I think you can 479 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: look at it two ways, and I'm not choosing to 480 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: look at it positive because I'm on Steter Nation Radio. 481 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be as objective as possible that that's 482 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: not the Steelers defense you're gonna get even if injuries 483 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: can you know continue and it is a war of attrition. 484 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: But if you can get close to that Ben, I'll 485 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: you can beat anybody. You can hang and I know 486 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: that the tough part of the schedule is now here. 487 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: But that's another thing is that you can look at 488 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: it half four or half empty. You get to give 489 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: losses to your opponents if you're playing well. I mean 490 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: you look at who you play down the stretch. It's 491 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: the Ravens twice. The Bens you can get. The Browns 492 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: are competitor. You get Kansas City, you get Tennessee. I mean, 493 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: these are these are games that that's why coaches look 494 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: at it is is that we get to hurt the Ravens twice. 495 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: That's great, you know what I mean. They're not looking 496 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: at well, you're gonna lose. We're gonna be down to 497 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: Baltimore and lose. No that's not thinking. That's not exactly 498 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: that's fan. That's fan thinking. Yeah, that's media and fans, right, yeah, 499 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: that one. Anyways, we're gonna take a break. He is 500 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the 501 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. I will say this, Matt, 502 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: I had several people stopped me both at the stadium 503 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: and uh on the plane back home last night, the 504 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: right home, Happy Birthday. No. They said that they are 505 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: fans of the show. So how about that? How about that? 506 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: We got that gothday. I appreciate that, and I want 507 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: to thank all those fans that stopped and said hello, 508 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: how about that. Yeah, we'll be back more with the 509 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: Drive right after this. When you want black and gold 510 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: football talk, you want s