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Speaker 2: Some mistakes are worse than others. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 3: Are we or are we.

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Speaker 2: Not looking at the worst draft pick in the history

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Speaker 2: the same way we've been starting all of them recently.

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Speaker 2: Two weeks to go, my man, two weeks to go.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, two weeks from tonight. It is gonna

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Speaker 3: Uh, it still seems like a long way. I know,

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Speaker 3: it's still keep saying it as if it's like it's

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's cutting down. But as long as the

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Speaker 3: word weeks, you know, is after a number it just

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Speaker 3: seems like it's still too far away and not the opener.

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Speaker 2: The opener is not weeks it is a week and

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Speaker 3: A little better, a little better. But it's just I

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Speaker 3: to go. I will say college football is back, so

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Speaker 3: that helps. Indeed, Indeed, Williams, so you know, got a look.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's that's exciting. That's something. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what conference anybody is in anymore,

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Speaker 2: and so it's.

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Speaker 3: A little bit harder to follow.

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Speaker 2: But there were people with uniforms and and and balls

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Speaker 3: Yep, I saw it. That's good. Yeah, Aztecs are one

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Speaker 3: to oh want to know? Want to know?

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Speaker 2: And pay the under Because our producer Brandon already asked.

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Speaker 2: He said, my ass text for want to know? Is

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Speaker 2: that gonna come up on the show tonight. I said,

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Speaker 2: I've got it seventy second on my list.

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Speaker 3: We'll see if we get there. First of all, if

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Speaker 2: No, No, I didn't think it was gonna come up

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Speaker 2: And you know, if you're doing a show with me

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Speaker 2: and there's big news with the forty nine ers, that

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Speaker 2: might come up too. And so tell me where you sit,

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Speaker 2: big brother, tell me about this right now, because when

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Speaker 2: I say some mistakes are different than others, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm going to present it.

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Speaker 3: In this particular way.

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Speaker 2: And I am fully aware that most people will say

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Speaker 2: there's when you actually set out to try to deceive somebody.

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Speaker 2: There is a little bit of that. I know it

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter to football fans. You either get the pick

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Speaker 2: because it just hasn't. It's not fair yet to Trey

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Speaker 3: But when something doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: Out with a high, high level draft pick, and this

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Speaker 2: no mistake. I'm not trying to say the Niners didn't

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Speaker 3: Because they did. However, Trey Lance has done nothing wrong.

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Speaker 2: So much of his story is circumstantial, and we've still

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Speaker 3: when you when you talk about them, you're like, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: any of that information about Trey Lance. What do we have?

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Speaker 3: Five games, four starts? Four starts? You know, I think

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Speaker 3: Denver one of the top running offenses in the league.

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Speaker 3: We don't know who Trey Lance is, what he can

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Speaker 3: I think this trade was a beautiful thing for him.

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Speaker 2: Well, I agree with just about everything you said. I

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Speaker 3: Your eyebrows had to go up when it was Dallas.

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, man, not only because it's Dallas

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Speaker 3: last year. And so I look at this situation and

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Speaker 3: I thought to myself. The Tampa Bay Bucks, I thought

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Speaker 3: Because of Kirk's contractual situation. There were a number of

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Speaker 3: understand this ephrom what led to Trey, and I think

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Speaker 3: this week where Trey was like, look, my heart is

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Speaker 2: This was not being QB two, It was being QB three.

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Speaker 2: When they announced that Sam Darnold was going to be

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Speaker 2: the backup. Well, I'll ask you this, who's QB three

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Speaker 3: I think Yeah, that's a good point. I think it's

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Speaker 2: So if you don't want to be a QB three,

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Speaker 2: then yes, it's great that you're getting a fresh start.

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Speaker 3: But that not the place. Listen what I That's not

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Speaker 3: And we know Jerry. Okay, Jerry loves Jerry loves a

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Speaker 3: can build around a story for his brand. Now let's

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Speaker 3: just say, God forbid, if something happens to Dak and

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Speaker 3: a story. Remember what Romo? Romo was a story, Tony

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Speaker 3: that clip for that long based on how he got

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Speaker 3: into the league. Correct. Dak Prescott's correct, and Dak Prescott

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Speaker 3: talking about that story, talking about the cowboys, right, talking

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Speaker 3: about how well, why did you make the trade? And

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Speaker 3: and the moves that he's made. He's winning and he

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Speaker 3: knows that formula. Whether Trey plays and does a great

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Speaker 3: He still gets to talk about it, and if he does,

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Speaker 3: and they do develop him into something. What does Jerry say, Well,

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Speaker 3: I saw something special when the kid and I knew

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Speaker 3: that others couldn't, that others couldn't. That's your story, that's

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Speaker 3: your headline. That offensive genius Kyle Shanahan couldn't. He couldn't

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Speaker 3: do it. Yeah, oh oh, it's risk free.

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Speaker 2: However, while I think everything you just said is part

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Speaker 2: one thing that Jerry said that to me is not true,

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Speaker 2: and that is that this had nothing to do with

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 3: Oh sure it did. Oh sure it did.

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Speaker 2: And we're gonna explain exactly what that is, plus more

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Speaker 2: from JaMarcus Russell and Ryan, there's something that this trade

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Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly how all of these came together.

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Speaker 3: Gave up all of that to get four starts.

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Speaker 2: So I ask you, when we talk about the worst

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember if some of these other names

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Speaker 3: But all you did was make your pick.

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Speaker 2: The forty nine ers gave up three years of key

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Speaker 3: Oh, they bought the wrong stock and it cost them

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Speaker 2: Forty nine ers, the forty nine ers in the Trey

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Speaker 2: That is what's even crazier and obviously the only reason

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Usually when you miss on a on a top

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Speaker 2: Wildest stories? Yeah, I do, actually, but you don't go ahead.

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Speaker 6: I think it would be a long conversation with sports

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Speaker 2: Back to you wait, say that again, Steve, He's six

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Speaker 2: to one the digits six.

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Speaker 3: But his name's not Danniel Monte. What did you what's

437
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Speaker 3: his name again? He's twelve?

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Speaker 6: Name Lewis Lappie, hero for the rest of his life from.

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Speaker 3: Williamsports one at twelve.

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Speaker 7: That is correct.

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Speaker 2: I did see the highlight and I was like, well,

442
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Speaker 2: that's a big kid, but I couldn't tell that he

443
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Speaker 2: was six one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes it looked like Aaron Judge standing next to Josel

446
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Speaker 6: Tuve depending on which base.

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Speaker 2: Oh, twelve year olds are Oh yeah, I mean I

448
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 2: don't know. You buy it? Is he actually twelve? Even

449
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: if he was fourteen, I mean you know, I know it.

450
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: I know it now. If he's thirty, it's like, oh okay,

451
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Speaker 3: I mean I mean take it.

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Speaker 2: Take it from a dad who just had his son

453
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Speaker 2: within the last few months.

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Speaker 3: Fly by him.

455
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: My sixteen year old is now six three wow wow.

456
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but he's sixteen. You're not twelve. You mean

457
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 2: college in a year and a half. So it's like

458
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Speaker 2: it's a little less crazy.

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Speaker 3: But I have a twelve year old and I'm six acre.

460
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Speaker 3: My wife is five eleven. He's not six' one. No. Yeah, whoa,

461
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 3: that's a big boy. That's a big boy right there.

462
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Speaker 3: We're live in the ti rag dot com studios. Thanks Steve.

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Speaker 2: out for yourself at discover dot com slash match. All right,

467
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: we've been talking about the Trey Lance situation from the

468
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: forty nine ers angle. What about the Dallas Cowboys now?

469
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones, as you would actually expect him to do,

470
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: came out and said he did not want think about

471
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott's contract when making this deal.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not.

473
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: Dak actually has this year and next year before the

474
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: Cowboys can get out from underneath it. So even if

475
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: Trey Lance is now somehow a potential future plan for

476
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, it's going to take a while to come together.

477
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: And by the time you get there, guess who's going

478
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: to need a new contract, not Dak Trey. Trey Lance

479
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: is gonna need a new contract by then, or at

480
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: least you would have to pick up his fifth year option,

481
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: which you're probably not gonna do if the guy hasn't

482
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Speaker 2: even played.

483
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 3: But I wonder if you buy this, Ephraim the.

484
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: Idea that the playoff disappointment experienced by the Cowboys and Dak.

485
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: Prescott struck a nerve last year when the Cowboys went

486
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: on the road and were only able to score twelve

487
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: points against those same San Francisco forty nine ers and

488
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: had another playoff exit a little bit earlier than Jerry

489
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: wants at minimum, do you buy that they're sending Dak

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00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: a message they would like Dak to be a little

491
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: bit less comfortable with his current situation his future situation

492
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: because the message is, Dak, you're good, but it's not

493
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Speaker 2: good enough.

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Speaker 3: Everything is a message, especially when dealing with Jerry Jones.

495
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: Oh no, I didn't think of no. Yeah, But you know,

496
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: actions speak louder than words, so you can tell us

497
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: you weren't thinking about that or whatever you're you know,

498
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 3: giving out to the media. But the reality of it is,

499
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: you would have to if you're going to bring someone

500
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 3: as high profile as Trey Lance, whether he's played or not,

501
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: he was still the third pick in the draft into

502
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Speaker 3: your quarterbacks room, you have to look at all of

503
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Speaker 3: the areas that will be talked about. You will have

504
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: to look at the contracts and run the numbers with

505
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Speaker 3: with everybody, right like, what does it look like? What

506
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Speaker 3: can we do? What should we do? When is this?

507
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 3: When do we have to do something? So all of

508
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: those things are things that are on the table, So

509
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: you can't tell us, no, it didn't. We didn't think

510
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 3: about that at all. It's not true. So I don't

511
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: know how it's going to play out, but I do

512
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: know that I'm sure Dak Prescott didn't like it. Now

513
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: he can shrug it off like it is what it is,

514
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: but it's still a third pick in the draft. There

515
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: is value there. This wasn't a sixth round draft pick,

516
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: our seventh round draft pick. This was somebody who was

517
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: who a team moved up to get. And so however

518
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: it works out and Dallas are if he ever does

519
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: play for Dallas, it's interesting to me. It's interesting to

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00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 3: see just what Jerry is thinking about here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said this, I mean and we were

522
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: on the air as this broke four o'clock hour Friday,

523
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: right in the middle of our show, talking about whether

524
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Speaker 2: or not the forty nine ers should or even had

525
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Speaker 2: to trade trade lance. And you know, one of those

526
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: moments I'll never forget it. Producers jump up in the

527
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: ear and they go they go schefter, shefter, you know,

528
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: and then you know Pellisera or all the NFL reporters, right,

529
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: Rap Report and Glazier hit them all.

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00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: And what they're telling me is go look at Twitter,

531
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Speaker 3: go look at the Internet.

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Speaker 2: And I knew when they said that a trade had

533
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Speaker 2: gone down. What shocked me is when I got there

534
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Speaker 2: and I.

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Speaker 3: Went Dallas, the Dallas Cowboys that was not on my.

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Speaker 2: List of ten teams that made sense as destinations for

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Speaker 2: Trey Lance and trade partners for the forty nine ers.

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00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: By the way, that's another aspect of right. That's another

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00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: aspect I'd love to discuss, which we can do. Coming

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00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: up next with E from Salama, Mark with It. It's

541
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Live, Tyraq dot Com Studios.

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Speaker 3: It's Mark with a. E from Salam.

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Speaker 2: You said everything with Jerry Jones is messaging, and I

544
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: actually think it goes well beyond Jerry Jones. There's messaging

545
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: in everything the forty nine ers. Same as when they

546
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: got rid of Jimmy Garoppolo, if and when they ever did,

547
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: I still don't even know if I believe it. But

548
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: when they move on from these quarterbacks, like when they

549
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: moved up to get Trey Lance, the message was, well,

550
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: we need a quarterback who can can stay healthy. It's like, sure,

551
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Speaker 2: it's a kind way of saying we're moving on from

552
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: Jimmy because we don't think he's the right quarterback for us.

553
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Speaker 3: It's not that the messaging they're using is untrue.

554
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Speaker 2: I just find it to only be one of the

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00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: reasons they're moving on, and there were many. They were

556
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Speaker 2: frustrated with some of the things that Jimmy did on

557
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: the field. I think off the field, he and Kyle

558
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: Shanahan were having a hard time. They also wanted a

559
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: quarterback on a rookie deal so they could spend a

560
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: bunch of money on some of these other young stars

561
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: who were budding at the time. It's exactly what they did.

562
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: It's now well documented. Same thing here. They're going to

563
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: tell you, well, we're a championship level team who just

564
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: doesn't have time for a project like Trey Lance. We

565
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: thought maybe he would develop quicker he didn't.

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Speaker 3: Who knew that.

567
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: Rock Purdy was coming, and so we'd like to find

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00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: him a new home. And yes, those things are all true.

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Speaker 2: They also right now at least don't think he's very

570
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: good or else there's no way they would have done this.

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Speaker 2: And to me, the proof in that pudding is that

572
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: they sent him to their rival. How many times have

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Speaker 2: you watched when it's time to move on from a

574
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: big time player, you watch the team send him to

575
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Speaker 2: the other conference.

576
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 3: Conference, the whole other side of the world.

577
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick took a call from the Cleveland Browns and

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00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: they wanted Garoppolo, and Bill went, no, I'm not sending

579
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Speaker 2: him to the Browns. I'm not having this guy beat me.

580
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: You're going to the forty nine ers. I also think

581
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: he was doing Jimmy a solid because he's, like Kyle Shanahan,

582
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: knows more about football than the people running the Browns.

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Speaker 3: So there are.

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Speaker 2: Multiple reasons all going on at once. I think the

585
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: Niners like Trey Lance as a person. I think that

586
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 2: they understand, sure, there's still maybe a future in the league,

587
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: but if they were really scared that Trey Lance was

588
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: going to become a baller, there's no way in hell

589
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: they're sending him to the Dallas Cowboys because nothing could

590
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: make this worse for the Niners except for that to

591
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: have Trey become the future star of your rival and

592
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: come back and beat you for years.

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Speaker 3: You want to talk about, as a writer in Hollywood,

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00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: who's still don strike. By the way, sorry to hear

595
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 3: what happens. Uh. Wouldn't it be a heck of a

596
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: story if Trey Lance ended up starting for the Dallas

597
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: Cowboys some unforeseen thing and the two meet in the

598
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: playoffs again.

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Speaker 2: Brother, October eight, I've already got the date memorized. If

600
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: Cowboys are at Levi Stadium on October eighth.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about. I think it's in the playoffs. I

602
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: hear you, right, because now, as a writer, regular season, eh,

603
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: but the playoffs, right, the team that put them out

604
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 3: of the playoffs last year to have a redo with

605
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 3: their trash did they didn't want? And now he's the

606
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 3: starting quarterback and he he eliminates you in the NFC

607
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: Championship game to go to the Super Bowl. Now, as

608
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 3: a writer, I can I can pin that. That to

609
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 3: me is exciting. I'd like to read and I'd like

610
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 3: to watch that.

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Speaker 2: Uh oh, by the way, with mister irrelevant quarterbacking the

612
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: other Oh.

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Speaker 3: My goodness, Oh my goodness. The whole thing's insanity. Come on,

614
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 3: the third pick in the draft versus the last pick

615
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 3: in the draft. Who was right? Cowboys and Niners? Right? Man?

616
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 3: That's must see TV right there? That's some good stuff.

617
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 3: It's some good stuff. But somebody in the NFL front

618
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: office right now is going, how can we make this up?

619
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: They're like, hmm, how can we how can we fix

620
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: these games? Doc Prowscott's like, I don't I don't like

621
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: your movie idea.

622
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: Right at all.

623
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: Cooper Rush thinks you're a terrible writer. This is an

624
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: awful idea. But you buy what I'm saying. Right If

625
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: the Niners actually really thought Trey Lance was going to

626
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: become a great player in this league, They're not sending

627
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: them to Dallas.

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Speaker 3: They're not He's gonna be far far away from the NFC.

629
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Speaker 3: And they even had a story.

630
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Speaker 2: I forget which reporter it was, but there was a

631
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: story that popped and I this is where my sort

632
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: of like cynical brain starts to move. Because I'm not

633
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: a cynical person, but in situations like this, that's when

634
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: I get cynical. Is like when the forty nine ers

635
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: had all kinds of media availability for Kyle Shanahan and

636
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: John Lynch last Thursday, and they sat there and went, well,

637
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 2: we really think the most likely scenario and what we're

638
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: hoping is that Trey Lance stays on the forty nine

639
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: ers and he's with us as our third string quarterback

640
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: next year. I'm like, no, no, you're not. That's not

641
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: what you're thinking. That's not what you want. You need

642
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 2: everyone to think. I think that you need to tell

643
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 2: the league that. But you're not going through this on

644
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: Wednesday the way that you did if that's actually.

645
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: What you're thinking.

646
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: Same thing here where they sent a reporter out twenty

647
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: four hours after the trade was made to say, originally

648
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers were targeting only AFC teams, but

649
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: then the Cowboys came in and just blew all of

650
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: the other offers out of the water. I'm like, with

651
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Speaker 2: a fourth round pick, you weren't targeting AFC. You were

652
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Speaker 2: targeting all of the other cities that had teams in them. Everyone,

653
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Speaker 2: that's who you were targeting. Everyone's trying to trade this

654
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Speaker 2: guy since since March.

655
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Speaker 3: Oh, man, I hope that plays out like that. You

656
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: heard it here first, people, Oh gosh.

657
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Speaker 2: I'd settle for October eighth, like you that it would

658
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Speaker 2: be Sunday Night Football week five. Sunday Night Football. Come on, man,

659
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Speaker 2: all right, the biggest baseball story that no one ever

660
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Speaker 2: talked about happened this week as well.

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Speaker 3: That's next.

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Speaker 2: Well, we were talking about a Draft day trade unlike

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Speaker 2: anything we've ever seen, and now I think we're approaching

668
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Speaker 2: a free agency unlike anything we've ever seen, at least

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Speaker 2: so we thought.

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Speaker 3: So, now, what happens with the.

671
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Speaker 2: Biggest free agent contract that was ever to be?

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Speaker 3: Is? It's still?

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Speaker 2: I mean, with every home run, it seemed like people went,

679
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Speaker 2: forget five hundred million, how about six hundred million? You

680
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: know what, Hell, if you're gonna do that, make it

681
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: seven hundred forget it man, one billion dollars. And the

682
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Speaker 2: next thing, you know, tucked inside of all of the

683
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Speaker 2: NFL build.

684
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 3: Up that we hear, So I feel like this story

685
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: never really got it to do this week. You just

686
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 3: did it. Man, the balloon popped. The balloon pop.

687
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: Because he's still a great player, and he'll still have

688
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: a huge free agency, but he's the biggest. But now

689
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: he is essentially, at least for now, just a great hitter.

690
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 3: And that's it.

691
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: And obviously, for those you don't know what we're talking about,

692
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: show Hey, o tani a torn ucl for the second

693
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: time in his career. He unconfirmed, but seems as though

694
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: another Tommy John surgery is on the way, and that.

695
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: Means no pitching for show Hey next year.

696
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 2: That also means you're not even playing in the field,

697
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: as if he even did that. Anyway, He's just a

698
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: dh a really really good one, an expensive one.

699
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 3: But that's it. How's this changed the whole outlook for you?

700
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: I think it changes it a lot. I think the

701
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: sad thing to me not just about his money or

702
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 3: his contract. I now you have people saying, well, this

703
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 3: is why, this is why Pitcher's pitch and don't worry

704
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 3: about anything else. Oh you see what I'm saying. Sotly,

705
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 3: if he continues at the clip he's on and he's

706
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 3: going and he's doing it, and he's done it, he's

707
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: doing it for years. Now we have a new breeder

708
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: baseball player come being raised. Now it's well, this is

709
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 3: why when we find a young pitcher, he becomes a

710
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: young pitcher, and the rest of the game, the hitting,

711
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: all of the fielding, all of that becomes second, third,

712
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 3: fourth on the list, because great pitchers need to just pitch, period.

713
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: I thought shoe Hay was exciting. I know, and me

714
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 3: and the rest of the world also thought he was exciting.

715
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 3: Some I'm saying the greatest baseball player to ever play

716
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: because of what he was doing. Can you put that?

717
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 3: Can you put that tag on him now? If he

718
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: doesn't regain what we saw in these few months, I

719
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 3: don't think think you can, because when you want to

720
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: be the greatest effort, longevity has to be a part

721
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 3: of it. You can be great for a year or two,

722
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 3: but can you be great for twelve? Can you be

723
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 3: great for ten? So more than just the money was

724
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 3: lost with this, in my opinion, yep. And it's going

725
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: to have a ripple and a trickle down effect throughout

726
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 3: youth baseball and everywhere else. It's interesting.

727
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: I hadn't thought of that, And you're right, that's a

728
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: huge bummer, because I definitely thought of the biggest loser

729
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: here is not show Hey in his money. He'll be fine,

730
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 2: he's still going to make a ton of money. He's

731
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: already making a ton of money. But I definitely think

732
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: the biggest loser here is baseball and the baseball fans.

733
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 2: This was a transcendent player. This is someone who everyone

734
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: was rooting for, had no hate. It was just like

735
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 2: the most unbelievable thing that any of us had ever

736
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 2: seen on a baseball field. And so now that, at

737
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: least for the time being, goes away. I did talk

738
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: to an orthopedic surgeon this week who told me the

739
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: breakdown of what show Hey could be in the future,

740
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: at least in his opinion, which I'll tell you in

741
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: a second. But you're right, like there are already in

742
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: the minor leagues a bunch of two way players and

743
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 2: transcendent ball players sort of inspire clones. You look at

744
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: when Tiger Woods came up to golf, golfers weren't in

745
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: that kind of shape. Golfers didn't just automatically hit the

746
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: ball three twenty. And then after Tiger had been on

747
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: the tour for ten years, he was one of the

748
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: shorter hitters out there because he had inspired a level

749
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: of greatness and everybody was in shape and then wearing

750
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: like colored belts and all fit and like everybody right, yeah,

751
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 2: and show show Hay was that and so you were

752
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: going to totally break down that barrier of once you pitch,

753
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 2: you know.

754
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: We're not uh, we're not gonna let you hit anymore.

755
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: And and so baseball loses that going into its future

756
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: and that's terrible. That's terrible for the game because it's

757
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: a game that's dying for excitement and show Hay has

758
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: been the center.

759
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 3: Of that all year long. Yeah, and it's it kind

760
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: of taken new the wind out of the season because

761
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: it was must CTV. I mean, he pitches a near

762
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 3: perfect game in a doubleheader and then comes and hits

763
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: two home runs the next game, where you see, where

764
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 3: are you going to do? Where? Where can you watch that? Right? Right?

765
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 3: And so now it's you know, I hope he is Okay.

766
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 3: It's tough to come back from Tommy Johnson, well, not

767
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 3: as tough as it used to be, but two but

768
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: the second one is different now and you're not having

769
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: the surgery right away. You're going to continue to play

770
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: out the season that's going to end nowhere.

771
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 2: Well, I guess in theory, why not, You're not going

772
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: to pitch in twenty twenty four. So if you're not

773
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: going to pitch in twenty twenty four, there isn't really

774
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 2: a rush. The goal for pitching for Sho Halo Tani

775
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: is twenty twenty five.

776
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 3: But is he gonna have to have the surgery? Don't

777
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 3: know yet, but it would seem so. So if I

778
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: were someone who was thinking about acquiring him, what I

779
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: wouldn't want him to do is to continue to bat.

780
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 3: I would want him to have the surgery now, so

781
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: by the end of the season when he is a

782
00:47:52,920 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: free agent, we're already in the process, opposed to finishing

783
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: out the season, ending on the last day of baseball

784
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 3: season with no fanfare, no playoffs, no wild card and

785
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: know any of that, and then scheduling the surgery and

786
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 3: digging into Like to me, I'm like, oh, well wait

787
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 3: a minute. Now, we're trying to get you fired a

788
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: million dollars. The last thing I wanted to do is

789
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: hurt something else. Not anymore, You're not I wouldn't think,

790
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 3: I mean, what do you think I have?

791
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 2: No I honestly don't know, because you know, maybe show

792
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 2: Hey looks at this and says, we take a short

793
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 2: term deal somewhere, I take a one or a two

794
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: year deal and then get back to the spot where

795
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: I can pitch and and we do this. You know,

796
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 2: we do this next year. I think this brings that

797
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: into play. I doubt that, but maybe that is the

798
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 2: way that he's going to play it. But what this

799
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: negotiation was missing was anything for the team to say

800
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: back to Otani's agent, well, now they have it.

801
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 3: Like literally, everyone was like, this is going to be

802
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: six hundred million.

803
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: It's going to be seven hundred million because the Dodgers

804
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: and the Giants and the Yankees and the Mets and

805
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: the Rangers and the Padres are all going to show

806
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: up and just be like, yo, blank check, where do

807
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 2: you want to be?

808
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 3: Well not.

809
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: Now this is the first time where the team talking

810
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 2: to show Hey has a concern and they're like, so

811
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: what about this? And so this is why we're going

812
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: to knock it down a little bit. Now here's what

813
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: the Orthos said to me. He says, you're definitely not

814
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 2: pitching next year, Maybe about an eighty percent chance if

815
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: you have the surgery, eighty percent chance you do get

816
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: back to who you you were as a pitcher before

817
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 2: the surgery.

818
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 3: But then, assuming you do, you got.

819
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 2: Maybe three or four years, three or four years of

820
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: pitching left. So that ten year, six hundred million dollar deal, God,

821
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: I bet he can hit for those ten According to

822
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 2: this doctor, you're looking at best case scenario in that

823
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: ten year deal, three or four years of elite pitch.

824
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 3: Can he be a closer? Great question, that's a great question.

825
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 3: That's a different conversation. Right, say you have him in

826
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 3: the lineup and he's also you're closer.

827
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: Incredible, it would be an unbelievable Again here you are

828
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 2: thinking like a writer.

829
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 3: Again, but I'm just here, all right, you know what

830
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 3: I mean?

831
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 2: You know, and maybe, but but that's also that's not

832
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: going to command the salary of a starter, so that

833
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 2: affects the money. I love what you're saying. I mean,

834
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 2: think of Diaz.

835
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 3: In New York.

836
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: I mean, if you had show hey and some sort

837
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: of an entrance for him for like, yes, beautiful idea

838
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: be our DH and our closer.

839
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 3: It's incredible.

840
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: The specter of what he could do to a ball

841
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: game is sitting there every night night every night of

842
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: the week as opposed to just once.

843
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 3: Right, that's beautiful. I love that.

844
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 2: Maybe that is where it's going. But this changes things.

845
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 2: There's no definitely, there's no no question about that.

846
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 3: Hmm. That's exciting.

847
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 2: It's exciting, but it's also like a I mean, this

848
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 2: is this was going to be the largest free agency

849
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: in the history.

850
00:51:50,360 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 3: Of sports, and Baseball needed this and they lost it. Yeah,

851
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: you know this, this this December will not be what

852
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 3: it was. And I hope, I hope, I hope he's

853
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 3: okay man. Seriously, yeah, because he is a generational talent.

854
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Speaker 2: I'm Mark Willard talking it out two weeks before the

861
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Speaker 2: NFL season. And speaking of which, oh, Jonathan Taylor, what

862
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 2: does he do?

863
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: What are the Colts? Do?

864
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Speaker 2: I have an idea? I want to run by you

865
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Speaker 2: next right here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, It's

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868
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: Conversation about a month ago about this. These running backs.

869
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: You remember that, yes, and most of them have gotten

870
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: them figured out, not all. Sakuon Barkley's in with the Giants,

871
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: and Josh Jacobs just yesterday signs his deal and is

872
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 2: back with the Raiders. Jonathan taylor situation not figured out,

873
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 2: and then others still out there. Dalvin Cook signed, Zeke

874
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 2: Elliott signed, Kareem Hunt has not, and so there's still

875
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: a lot churning and burning in the in the running

876
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: back rooms in terms of how the NFL values them

877
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 2: and what that position is going to do about it

878
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 2: going forward. Now, Jonathan Taylor's situation is not the same

879
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: as Barkley's and Jacob's first round picks franchise tender had

880
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: been offered, and quite frankly, they argued, but they really

881
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: did not get a whole lot. More like Sakuon Barkley,

882
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 2: the franchise tag is ten point nine million. Barkley signed

883
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 2: for ten point nine million, incentives can bring it up

884
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 2: to eleven, and Jacob's got incentives that can bring it

885
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: up to twelve. So it's not like they had some

886
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 2: sort of a glowing victory in this process.

887
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 3: But their situations are a little bit different.

888
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 2: For Taylor, what if I argued this, it's gonna make

889
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 2: about four point three million dollars this year, and if

890
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 2: he leaves that out there, he doesn't want to be

891
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: a cult anymore. And I understand that completely with the

892
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: way ownership has handled him. But if you ask for

893
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 2: a trade and you get traded, you end up where

894
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: you end up, And I don't know what that team

895
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: is planning to do with you. How many NFL teams

896
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,959
Speaker 2: would even offer a.

897
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 3: Bell cow role?

898
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: And when you're going into the final year of your deal,

899
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: isn't that what you want? The more I've thought about this,

900
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 2: while it turns my stomach, I hate I'm not siding

901
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 2: with ownership.

902
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 3: Here sounds like it and I'm go ahead, But isn't.

903
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 3: But isn't that the best play for Jonathan? Don't get

904
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: traded and end up in a timeshare? Isn't your best play?

905
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 3: And I get it.

906
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: You hate the organization and you're right to do so,

907
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 2: and they're going to try to run you into a

908
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 2: wall seventeen weeks in a row.

909
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 3: I get it.

910
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: But if I'm playing this like a bet, aren't the

911
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: percentages most.

912
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 3: In my favor.

913
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: If I go out there with a rookie quarterback and

914
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 2: try to run for fourteen hundred yards with the Indianapolis

915
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: Colts and then hit the open market.

916
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 3: That'd be the best case scenario for him. Don't you

917
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 3: think the only thing he can control is you know,

918
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 3: how he performs, and you need five off and some

919
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 3: linemen in front of you and some tight ends and

920
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 3: receivers down the field to really get that. But Jonathan

921
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 3: Taylor is a special running back. You don't have to

922
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 3: block everybody for someone of his caliber. He's shown that

923
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 3: since he's been in the league for four years. We

924
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 3: got little banged up last year. But don't let your

925
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 3: pride get in the way of going to get your bag.

926
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 3: And you you know, if you go out and you

927
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 3: have an all Pro year, you will have suitors. But

928
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 3: if you go out and you have a subpart year,

929
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: it'll be well, that's why they didn't want to That's

930
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 3: why the didn't want to pay him. So it's really

931
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 3: the only way you can control, you know, the narrative

932
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 3: for yourself. And it's tough. You take a pounding and

933
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 3: I get it. But he's a young running back, fifth

934
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 3: year in the league, A lot of miles left. So

935
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 3: go out there, get all the males you can this year.

936
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 3: Lead the league in Russian. Why not. It's gonna be difficult.

937
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 3: You got a rookie quarterback, sure on you. But he

938
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 3: came into the league and he's dynamic. He's still a

939
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 3: dynamic player, right, yeah, get him four.

940
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 2: That's the other right, those running backs, right, everyone's freaking

941
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: Oh they're getting close to thirty.

942
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: Not this guy twenty four years old. Yeah, and and

943
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 3: so that, I mean, that's half you have to switch.

944
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 3: Sakwan Barkley did it. He was like, look, man, I

945
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 3: can boohoo and haw and him and but I'm about

946
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 3: to go out and lead the team in Russian, about

947
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 3: to lead the league in Russian. Like, you have to

948
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 3: be able to to realize that you have to take

949
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 3: this upon yourself and write your own narrative. Yeah, you've

950
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 3: shown how valuable you are, but at the current time,

951
00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 3: you have to continue to show people that. Hmmm, it's

952
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 3: a tough one. It's key happening. There's no dark Henry

953
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 3: money out. Its not happening.

954
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 2: I think how many times have we watched this, my man,

955
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: where the running back and the team they get into

956
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: a thing. And if the running back tries to play hardball, well, I.

957
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: Mean, that's the end of that.

958
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: Le'Veon Bell, You're a celebrity boxer now. And I'm not

959
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 2: saying he never made his way back to the league.

960
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 3: He did, but it wasn't anything though. It wasn't what

961
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 3: he was. It wasn't pretty, you know what I mean.

962
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: Like, I think that's something that gets lost in all this,

963
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: and it's unfortunate power for the team, but that is

964
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: when you have statistical success in the NFL, it doesn't

965
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 2: always travel.

966
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 3: So you got that.

967
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 2: That's another reason why I would say, like even if

968
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 2: there was a Bell cow roll out there, which there

969
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: isn't two weeks before the season starts, but but even if.

970
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: There was, I don't know how that would look.

971
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,959
Speaker 2: I know you can put up numbers in Indy because

972
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: you did, and I know it's a couple of years removed.

973
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: He's had his own injury issues. They weren't very good

974
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 2: last year. It didn't go well, but it did the

975
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: year before that, And especially with a rookie quarterback out

976
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 2: there who's got some dynamic athletic ability, but by the

977
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: same token, he's going to want to rely on what

978
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 2: he's going to rely on.

979
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor, and.

980
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,479
Speaker 2: You don't know if you go to Miami how that's

981
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 2: going to look, because they love Tyreek Hill and Jalen

982
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 2: Waddle and they've got a running back room that at

983
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 2: least is going to take away a percentage of what

984
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: you would do if you ended up there. So I

985
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 2: wish the guy had more options, but I just don't

986
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: really see how many he has.

987
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 3: Now he doesn't, And that is also the frustrating part

988
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 3: of it. When you're put in a position where you

989
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 3: don't feel like you have any options, you can. He

990
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 3: can see it. His agents have had this conversation with him,

991
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 3: and that's frustrating. For someone with that amount of talent

992
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 3: to be that special and not have any options. You

993
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 3: feel like you're powerless, and that's not a good fear,

994
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 3: and any anything you do in life, in any profession,

995
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 3: you don't, that's not a great feeling.

996
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,479
Speaker 2: Well, the other fascinating thing about Jonathan Taylor's contract again,

997
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: the difference between being a first rounder and a second rounder.

998
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: The sum total of his contract with seven point eight

999
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: million dollars over four years, However, he hasn't made any money.

1000
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 3: He hasn't made half of it.

1001
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 2: Yet of that seven point eight million dollars, four point

1002
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 2: three of it is his base salary this year. So

1003
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: this guy has not made a lot of money and

1004
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: he's got to go make that money and set himself

1005
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 2: up for whatever is going to happen next year. So

1006
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: I hate some of the things that the Colts have said.

1007
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: You know, Jim irsay is is no stranger to sticking

1008
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: foot in mouth and and and obviously there there may

1009
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: not be much in the way of opportunity long term there.

1010
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 2: But this is one of those situations where I don't

1011
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 2: know where exactly Taylor is supposed to go. And I look,

1012
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 2: he's not gonna sit the season out. No, that just

1013
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: that that does not seem like it makes any sense

1014
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: at all.

1015
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 3: I tell you what, him not making his money and

1016
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 3: making a bunch of money. Yet we have a guy

1017
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 3: who's made the money. He's he's hit the lotto, he's

1018
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,439
Speaker 3: hit the contracts, he's not on a fifth year deal.

1019
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 3: We got a guy we call MB that's money bags,

1020
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 3: and that's one Steven MB. The Seger.

1021
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 6: God cure to me is that that was the intro.

1022
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 6: As soon as you said contract, I didn't know who

1023
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 6: you were talking about. We've got an NFL exhibition on

1024
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 6: Fox TV to end the preseason tonight. It has gone

1025
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 6: to halftime. Houston Leeds at New Orleans ten to seven.

1026
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 6: The likely starting quarterback, rookie c. J. Stroud, played just

1027
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 6: the first couple of series, had a short touchdown pass.

1028
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 6: New Orleans answered with a short tv from Jamis Winston

1029
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 6: to Jimmy Graham.

1030
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 7: A short field.

1031
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 6: Goal late in the first half gives the Texans the

1032
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 6: ten to seven advantage at the break. Winston, by the way,

1033
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 6: went eleven of sixteen passing ninety three yards and a score.

1034
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 7: Cutdown Day is Tuesday.

1035
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 6: More college football openers this Thursday nights, including Nebraska Minnesota

1036
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 6: on Fox TV eight pm Eastern Thursday, Victor Hoblin won

1037
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 6: the tour championship by five strokes in Atlanta. At Basketball's

1038
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 6: World Cup, Germany defeated Australia eighty five eighty two Dennis

1039
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 6: Shrewder thirty points. US Open Tennis tournament starts Monday in

1040
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 6: New York. At the Little League World Series today, El Segundo,

1041
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 6: California won the title on a walk off homer six to.

1042
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 7: Five over Curuso.

1043
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 6: Tonight, in the Major League San Francisco leads the Atlanta

1044
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 6: Braves eight to five in the top of the eighth

1045
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 6: Braves have a four game winning streak on the line.

1046
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 6: They've been great this year. Atlanta's record is eighty four

1047
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 6: and forty four. Seattle has been superb recently. Seattle won

1048
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 6: again today at home, three to two over Kansas City.

1049
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,919
Speaker 6: The Mariners have won eleven of their last twelve. They're

1050
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 6: alone and first in the AL West for the first

1051
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 6: time this year. In fact, for the M's first time

1052
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 6: they've been in first place by themselves this late in

1053
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 6: a season. In twenty years, the Mariners were sub five

1054
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 6: hundred with their record entering July this summer, since then

1055
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 6: thirty six and fourteen. Statze says that's the best winning

1056
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 6: percentage by any American league team in their first fifty games.

1057
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 6: After starting the month under five hundred. Minnesota in thirteen

1058
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 6: innings seven six over Texas. So while the Mariners in first,

1059
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 6: Rangers continue to slump. Rangers in Houston one game behind

1060
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 6: Seattle in the AL West. It was Arizona over the

1061
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 6: Reds five to two. Milwaukee won it's eight straight game,

1062
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 6: ten to six against the Padres. Brewers are first in

1063
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 6: the NL Central four games up on the Cubs, six

1064
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 6: up on the Reds. Tomorrow night it's Brewers at Cubs.

1065
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 6: Cubbies won at Pittsburgh ten to one. Justin Verlander got

1066
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 6: to win at Detroit for Houston Astro seventeen to four.

1067
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 6: The final Cleveland in eleven innings, beat Toronto ten to seven.

1068
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 6: Wins for Colorado and Tampa Bay, and the Dodgers won

1069
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 6: at Boston seven to four. This week, the Dodgers will

1070
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 6: host Arizona and Atlanta and all weekend long at Fenway Park.

1071
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 6: Celebrated in a Dodger uniform was Mookie Betts, his first

1072
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 6: games back since Boston traded him to the Dodgers, and

1073
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 6: that's been a while back to.

1074
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 3: You save good stuff haiking money bags.

1075
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, money bags mentions that that preseason game going on

1076
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 2: right now Houston and New Orleans.

1077
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 3: I'm about to say so. I would never normally do this.

1078
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 2: I would never do this because this is just asking

1079
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 2: for the gods or whatever you believe in to smack

1080
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: me down. But I think we've arrived now that we're

1081
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: in the second half of this football game. We have

1082
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 2: officially arrived at the time where all players you've heard

1083
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 2: of and might draft in your fantasy league have hit

1084
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 2: the showers for all of preseason, And I would say,

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01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: don't get mad at me if people get hurt in

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01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 2: practice this week or next, because that's different. That's these

1087
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 2: are game weeks and life happens, and that not my fault.

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01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 2: But the preseason I feel like always brings with it

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01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 2: at least two to four like, oh no, that guy's

1090
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: already out for this season or half the season because

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01:05:56,080 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 2: of a preseason game. And that didn't really happened this year.

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 2: And I know, you know, I know what happened to

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01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 2: Jerry Judy a couple of days ago. We'll see how

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01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: long that lasts. I think they think he avoided a

1095
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: really long term injury. I'm not saying that the football

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01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 2: was was injury free, but doesn't it feel like the

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01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 2: quietest preseason that you can remember in a long time

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Speaker 2: with regard to major players going down.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, I'm not going to be a part of

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01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 3: that with you, okay, from from we made it. Everybody's healthy,

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01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 3: we made it. Yeah, I'm not gonna be part of that. No, no,

1102
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 3: come on, you don't need to be part of it.

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01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 3: Just just just yes or no. No.

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Speaker 2: It went well, it went, well, what do you mean,

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01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 2: I'm not doing anything.

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01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 3: I'm not doing that with you. The preseason games are over.

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01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 3: Nobody broke their leg. That's a fact. You can NodD

1108
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 3: you can, you can you can say, yes, have we

1109
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 3: gotten to the regular season yet nobody tore their ad?

1110
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 3: Have we? Oh my god, look at it? What Why

1111
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 3: are you still talking about it?

1112
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 2: Because I already disqualified practice week for games. Life happens.

1113
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 2: It's the NFL. Yes, injuries are coming. I'm talking about

1114
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 2: the preseason games. I don't know if coaches figured out

1115
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: how to navigate this or we all just got lucky.

1116
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 2: But nobody who gets everybody going in the fantasy world

1117
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 2: ended up.

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01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 3: On a cart. Let me ask you something to hearken back.

1119
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 3: I'm changing the subject to hearken back to Harkin back

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Speaker 3: at the beginning of of you know, preseason, and we

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01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 3: were talking about the running backs in Saquon and New

1122
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 3: York and I was like, what are they gonna do right?

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01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 3: That offense is him? And you were like, well, you

1124
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 3: know they got James Robinson from Jacksonville, who's a good

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01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 3: I was like, really, James Robinson and he was like yeah,

1126
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 3: so that he'll be able to come in. Guess what what?

1127
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 3: You don't even know, do you? The Giants cut James Robinson.

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01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: That boy carried the ball from five five yards to

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01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 2: carry just yesterday.

1130
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Speaker 3: Just letting you know when you were doing all that

1131
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 3: hollow ballooin and I'm like, yeah, that sounds great and

1132
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 3: all that. But he's not saying hold on, he's not

1133
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 3: say Kwan Barkley and he can't come in. Yeah, but

1134
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,799
Speaker 3: what you were saying was, well they they'll be fine.

1135
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 3: They have James Robinson. Well now they don't'll be fine. No,

1136
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 3: that's not what I said, they'll be fine. I did

1137
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 3: not say there wasn't a drop off. My argument, which

1138
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 3: still stands, can't stand.

1139
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 2: Of course it can't, because we just had this conversation

1140
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: about Jonathan Taylor and Jacobs and Barkley showed up because

1141
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 2: somebody gave them a nickel more than they would have

1142
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 2: gotten if they had just cowered in the beginning. Like

1143
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 2: these teams are saying, there is no marked improvement that

1144
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 2: is assured by having an elite running back, and we

1145
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 2: can still survive by committee or by having somebody run

1146
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 2: for four point two yards of carry instead of four

1147
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 2: point five. James Robinson's gonna get picked up, by the way,

1148
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 2: But anyway, you get what I'm saying.

1149
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get what you say. He's gonna get picked up,

1150
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 3: but you're doing right. I just want you to know, like,

1151
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 3: who's who's starting for the Colts.

1152
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 2: Who's just starting running back? I don't know either. I

1153
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 2: don't know either, but it'll be somebody and they won't

1154
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 2: go on in seventeen and they're not trying to win anyway.

1155
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 2: The Giants were gonna win the Super Bowl with or

1156
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 2: without Saquan, So that's all I was getting.

1157
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 3: Make it sound like I said, James browb Hey was

1158
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 3: as good as say you threw his name out doing.

1159
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, what are they gonna do without? Say kwan?

1160
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 3: You was like, Wow, they got James Robinson, who is

1161
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 3: now at home hanging out on the street. Yep. The

1162
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 3: crazy thing about this time, and they was saying, you know,

1163
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 3: they got to cut down what Tuesday? They got to

1164
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 3: cut down Tuesday. Yep. It's so sad because what happened

1165
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 3: was initially when I came into the league in years past,

1166
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 3: you had it was three cut down periods. So after

1167
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 3: your second preseason game, you had to get down to

1168
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 3: I think, God, what was it you went from ninety

1169
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 3: you had to get down to like seventy five, and

1170
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 3: then after the third preseason game you had to get

1171
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 3: down to sixty five, I believe, And then after the

1172
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Speaker 3: fourth preseason game, going into that first week, you had

1173
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 3: to get down to the fifty three man roster. So

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01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:02,520
Speaker 3: they're allowing teams to keep all ninety plus throughout the preseason.

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01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 3: And think about that, it's thirty two teams. They only

1176
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 3: keep fifty three on the active roster.

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Speaker 2: So you're looking at approximately, with you know, injuries and whatnot,

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01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 2: thirty five players per team by Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: What is that? That's that's almost a thousand players. Man,

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01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 3: Now that now that that's right. Now, that thousand guys

1181
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:44,799
Speaker 3: whose dream was to be in the NFL will change

1182
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 3: in two days, and some may not ever get an

1183
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 3: opportunity to continue to chase that dream. Some will. But

1184
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 3: when you look at it like that, it's sad the

1185
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 3: numbers are stagged. It makes me feel even more blessed

1186
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 3: that I was able to do it for thirteen years,

1187
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 3: because it's almost impossible to do no matter how talented you.

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01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 3: These are not a thousand, just regular guys from Vaughn's

1189
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 3: or ralphs our HTB or the Pigley Wiggly or wherever

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01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 3: you're from in the country, whatever your supermarket is. These

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01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 3: are a thousand of the best athletes on the planet earth. Yep,

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01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 3: looking for jobs. That's the part that always gets me

1193
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 3: because I know how hard these guys work and I

1194
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 3: know how much they want it.

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Speaker 2: If it does make anybody feel better, Almost half of

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01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 2: them will end up on practice squads.

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Speaker 3: So that's good. Yeah, that is good because you will

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01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 3: be attached to but yeah, no, I know.

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1201
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,839
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1206
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Speaker 2: Radio app. It's not a hold in, it's officially a

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01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 2: holdout and it's getting nerve racking. More on that coming up.

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Speaker 2: Mark with y from Salam Fox Sports Radio. Okay, we're

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01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 2: live in the tie rack dot Com Studios Mark with

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01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 2: a y from Salam give me the give me the

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01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 2: art of the holdout, the art.

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01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 3: Do you ever experienced anything like this? Yeah? You know,

1213
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 3: like no, I mean, did you ever even think about it? No?

1214
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:58,919
Speaker 3: Is it ever a situation?

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01:13:59,160 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 2: No?

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01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 3: You know, holdouts aren't as common as people think. Oh,

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01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 3: I know, you know. So it's like two players in

1218
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 3: the whole league right now. Yeah, eight three. I guess

1219
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 3: for the most ar Taylor is that Yeah, it gets done.

1220
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 3: It has to, all right.

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01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 2: So then talk to me about the defensive Player of

1222
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 2: the Year and why Nick Bosa and the forty nine

1223
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 2: ers haven't figured this out yet, knowing all year last

1224
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 2: year that he was about to become the highest paid

1225
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 2: defensive player in the history of the game. How like

1226
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I've we've been talking about

1227
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 2: this all week and I have no idea who to

1228
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 2: be mad at because I don't know who's asking for what.

1229
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: I don't know who's offering what. Without that information, I

1230
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 2: can't figure out why this thing isn't done. But it

1231
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 2: feels like it should just be a slot, like, go

1232
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 2: to the highest paid defensive player, go up a little

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01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 2: bit and get a deal done that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and you know, yes, it would seem that

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01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 3: it's easy to do that, but in reality that is

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01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 3: not the case. Uh. It's probably because the guaranteed money

1237
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 3: is probably the sticking point. I would I would, I

1238
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 3: would bet so. I think whatever the highest fully like

1239
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 3: guaranteed money is, I would say he's probably trying to

1240
01:15:54,400 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 3: edge his way outside of a defensive player.

1241
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 2: Well, you know who has the best total guarantee of

1242
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 2: any pass rusher in the entire league right now?

1243
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 3: Who is that? That would be his brother.

1244
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 2: Joey Bosa has one hundred and two million guaranteed in

1245
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 2: a five year deal for one hundred and thirty five

1246
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:32,719
Speaker 2: million dollars. Not the highest aav that belongs to TJ. Watt,

1247
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:36,799
Speaker 2: But the highest guarantee is Joey Bosa.

1248
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 3: What is TJ Watts twenty eight million a year? Twenty

1249
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 3: eight million a year, Aaron Donald's thirty one.

1250
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 2: Well, I'm only looking at ed rushers, ok okay, all right, okay,

1251
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 2: I'm looking at ed rushers currently.

1252
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,799
Speaker 3: Okay, but you're right, Aaron.

1253
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 2: Donald's at thirty one, TJ's at twenty eight. But TJ's

1254
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 2: was a four year deal and he got eighty guaranteed.

1255
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 2: Joey bost is a five year deal one hundred and

1256
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 2: two million, So let's start there. Okay, they're brothers.

1257
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 3: So if you're saying, hey, I want a five year

1258
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 3: deal with you know what one hundred and.

1259
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 2: Thirty thirty two thirty two a.

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01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 3: Year, thirty two a year, and one hundred and thirty

1261
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,480
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty five hundred and fifty fully guaranteed.

1262
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 3: Like who's doing that for? It? For someone outside of

1263
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 3: the quarterback position, that's where that's where you would be like,

1264
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 3: hey man, look we're trying to give you one hundred

1265
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 3: and fifty million dollars. We're trying to give you a

1266
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million dollars.

1267
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 2: But thirty two million times five is one hundred and

1268
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 2: sixty one hundred and sixty million dollars.

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01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 3: One hundred and sixty million dollars.

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01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 2: And you're saying you want what one hundred and twenty guaranteed.

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01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 3: He may even want more than that, Like it's getting

1272
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:03,520
Speaker 3: it's getting crazy to think anybody outside of a quarterback

1273
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 3: is making that type of money. So he is the

1274
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 3: defensive player of the year, He has more value. He

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01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 3: will never be this valuable, correct and he understands that

1276
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 3: his agents understand that, right. I don't know if him

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01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 3: and his brother have the same brother, the same agent.

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01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 3: I'm sure they do.

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01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 2: Well, they've got a dad who used to do this

1280
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 2: as well, know what they're doing.

1281
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 3: So and that all makes sense.

1282
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 2: But if when you say it that way, and this

1283
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,640
Speaker 2: is why I think most fans I talk to immediately go,

1284
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 2: what are the Niners doing here?

1285
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 3: What are they waiting for?

1286
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 2: If that's what Nick wants, say yes and move on.

1287
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,839
Speaker 2: And I know it's not that easy. And the Niners

1288
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 2: are stubborn too. They don't want to just guarantee the

1289
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: whole thing. But does Nick have a right quarterbacks have

1290
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 2: started to ask for it and they're getting it.

1291
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 3: What if he wants the whole thing guarantee? That is

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Speaker 3: something that he may be wanting. He won. I wont

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Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty million dollars fully guaranteed, all right

1294
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 3: fully guarantee you the Niners, what do you say, we

1295
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 3: can't do that? Why not? And in reality they can

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01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 3: because they are not using that money on a quarterback

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Speaker 3: that's right for the next five years.

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Speaker 2: And and and in fact, they also just cleared a

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Speaker 2: little bit over six million dollars Betweeneer's cap and next

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Speaker 2: with Trade by Trading Trey Lance.

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Speaker 3: That ain't the deal man. So I got a.

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Speaker 2: Question about all this for you Coming up next, Chris

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Speaker 2: Jones is out as well.

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Speaker 2: who needs who more? Nick Bosa needs the Niners, and

1320
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 2: the Niners need Nick Bosa.

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01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 3: The Niners need Nick Bosa. That's interesting.

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01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 2: I'm not even saying I disagree with you, but I

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01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 2: mean I think without the forty nine ers. Nick Bosa

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01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 2: is not he's not making anything.

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01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 3: He's not, But there are thirty one other teams that

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01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 3: kindly and happily pay him for his services. So, in reality,

1327
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 3: where can you find a defensive player of the Year

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01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:19,560
Speaker 3: in their prime? If you're the Niners, is there a

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01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 3: line of them waiting somewhere? Nope, someone who can single

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01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 3: handedly change your defensive outcome for the year. If I'm

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01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 3: not mistaken, I don't think there's a bunch of them

1332
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 3: just hanging out, correct, So I do not believe. So,

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01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 3: so for me, it's you know, yeah, the Niners need

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01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 3: him because the Niners are trying to go to the

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01:21:55,280 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 3: super Bowl with a seventh round draft pick at quarterback. Right.

1336
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 3: We've talked about how good brock Perdy is. The reason

1337
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 3: he's so good is because that defense was the number

1338
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,560
Speaker 3: one defense in the league. Why was the defense the

1339
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 3: number one defense in the league? Nicholas Bosa. So yeah,

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01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 3: I would say the Niners need him more than he

1341
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 3: needs the Niners because there's thirty one other teams that

1342
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 3: would gladly take on his services, right, but they don't

1343
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:31,600
Speaker 3: get to do that this year. I understand that. So

1344
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 3: if he sits out this year. Do you think his

1345
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 3: market value goes down? No? No, no, not at all.

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01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 2: Do you But do you think that he would actually

1347
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 2: do that and forfeit seventeen point eight million dollars?

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01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 3: Hey, look, man, he's made a bunch of money. His

1349
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 3: brother's making a bunch of money. You got to he's

1350
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 3: This is not a singular thing that's happening right now.

1351
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,759
Speaker 3: I understand. Right, It's like if one of the Watt

1352
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 3: brothers was holding out, I think they'd be okay, you

1353
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

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01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 2: I get what you mean, Like Nick is now, Nick

1355
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,719
Speaker 2: is not eating Ramen, right.

1356
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 3: And and and and the the brunt of the families.

1357
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 3: You know, success is not just on you individually. Right,

1358
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 3: You got two brothers in the league, the top two

1359
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 3: pass rushers in the league, highest paid players potentially with

1360
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 3: the Watts. You got three brothers in the league all,

1361
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 3: you know, So it's not it's not the same situation

1362
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 3: as if you were just everything hinged on this for

1363
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:51,759
Speaker 3: the rest of your famili's you know, generational West type

1364
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 3: thing like Jonathan Taylor, bas like Jonathan Taylor, like Jonathan Taylor,

1365
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 3: nothing exactly what I understand.

1366
01:23:58,040 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 2: I understand all of this, and I'm not even just

1367
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 2: agreeing with you. I'm truly actually just asking the question here.

1368
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: I want to understand. I know that the forty nine

1369
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 2: ers love to do contracts their way, and they love

1370
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 2: to keep financial flexibility as much as possible. Nick Bosa

1371
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 2: is also from the Bosa family. My way or highway,

1372
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 2: we know what we're worth. We're not accepting a dollar less.

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01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 3: I get all that.

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01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 2: We don't know where these two sides sit. It has

1375
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 2: been completely respectful. That's one thing I always noticed when

1376
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 2: it comes to a negotiation, is this out in the public,

1377
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 2: are two sides trying to curry favor. Look at the

1378
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:47,639
Speaker 2: running backs, Barkley Jacobs, Jonathan Taylor, even Chris Jones. Are

1379
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 2: you out there? Are you making threats? We talked about

1380
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 2: Dame Lillard so much this summer. Are you out there?

1381
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 2: Are you going public? If you're public, it means that

1382
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 2: private hasn't worked about fourteen different ways, and you're frustrated.

1383
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 3: That's what it means to me. This one has not

1384
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 3: gotten there yet. You haven't heard anything. I don't even

1385
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 3: know you haven't heard of.

1386
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 2: Right, which is so fascinating to me because of all

1387
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 2: of the holdouts we're talking about.

1388
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 3: This is the most important one.

1389
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 2: I believe this is way more important than Chris Jones

1390
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:27,480
Speaker 2: or Josh Jacobs or Sakuon Barkley.

1391
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 3: It's big, it's big, but this is bigger Chris Jones.

1392
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 3: I can promise you that you know either one of them.

1393
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 2: But Nick is younger and he's better, and yes, like

1394
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 2: this is even bigger than that.

1395
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 3: So the silence around.

1396
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 2: It is beyond fascinating to me. And my hope has

1397
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 2: been that that means they're there still exists today, some

1398
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 2: sort of either respect or progress.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 2: I went for the first two weeks of this going.

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01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 2: I don't even think they want them there. I think

1402
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 2: they want them to just chill and not get hurt.

1403
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 2: But now we've reached the point where the preseason is over,

1404
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 2: cut down days Tuesday, They've got a game in fourteen days,

1405
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 2: and uh, there still hasn't been a damn peep, And

1406
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 2: so people are gonna get frustrated.

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01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 3: People are scratching their head.

1408
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 2: And if I'm listening to you, I guess I'd have

1409
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:31,799
Speaker 2: to lean in the direction of fault on the forty

1410
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 2: nine ers, even though we have no idea who's asking

1411
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 2: for what.

1412
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 3: It's definitely the fault on the forty nine ers. Look,

1413
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 3: they got a break with the quarterback situation. You want

1414
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 3: another break? What's going on? Well? But what if? But

1415
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 3: but we don't know that.

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01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 2: That's my contentions where it's like, you're going to have

1417
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 2: to pay somebody.

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01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to pay for somebody.

1419
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers track record paying their draft to

1420
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 2: talent is fantastic.

1421
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 3: Right, So what the thing that I'm sticking on is

1422
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 3: if you hit the jackpot with the quarterback position, right,

1423
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 3: you don't by the time they have to pay party,

1424
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 3: Nick Bosa be done. Yeah, this is this is not

1425
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 3: going to hurt for maybe three more years. Right. So

1426
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, well, what are we trying to What

1427
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 3: are we trying to do here? We got to get

1428
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 3: something if we're trying to go to the super Bowl

1429
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 3: and win the super Bowl, which is the goal. It's

1430
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 3: not the playoffs for the forty nine ers, it's to

1431
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 3: win the super Bowl. He is probably the most important

1432
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 3: piece known piece to that puzzle for them.

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01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me again, Devil's advocate. What if I

1434
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,759
Speaker 2: said to you that a team with the track record

1435
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 2: they have with their own talent, George Kittle, Fred Warner, Deebo,

1436
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 2: Samuel and we could keep going Eric Armstead.

1437
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 3: They pay them.

1438
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 2: They're literally the only one in this era who got

1439
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 2: sent elsewhere was DeForest Buckner. Everybody else has gotten their money.

1440
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 2: So the track record of quote unquote paying up and

1441
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 2: keeping their people happy very very good. Even though Deebo

1442
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 2: got a little wonky last year, but then he got

1443
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:37,440
Speaker 2: it and he stays.

1444
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 3: Now.

1445
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 2: People will say, look, defensive player of the Year, whatever

1446
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 2: he's asking for, give.

1447
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 3: It to him. Well, what if he wants it fully guaranteed,

1448
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 3: then give it to him.

1449
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 2: All right, let me ask you this, what if a

1450
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 2: year from now, Brandon Aiyuk plays for the New York

1451
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 2: Giants and this contract is the reason why, how will

1452
01:28:58,280 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 2: you feel?

1453
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 3: Then I would be excited to see what our young

1454
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 3: third round receiver came in and brought to the table.

1455
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 3: Fair answer, it's a fair answer. I get that. This

1456
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 3: is how you this is how you gm. You're not

1457
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:23,560
Speaker 3: going to find a Nick Bosa, So you can go

1458
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 3: ahead scour the earth, right You're you're not going to

1459
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 3: go find a young defensive player of the Year who

1460
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 3: brings it every game every year since he's been in

1461
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 3: the league. But you can go find a third round draft,

1462
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 3: a third round receiver, fourth round receiver who has tremendous

1463
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 3: talent and can develop and become an intricate part of

1464
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 3: your offense. Oh, yes, you can. Why do you think

1465
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 3: these edge rushers are being paid so much? It's hard

1466
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 3: to find them, and when you do, they're worth it.

1467
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 3: Remember when Sam Donald, I mean, excuse me, Aaron Donald

1468
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 3: make quarterback money and everybody was like, what is happening

1469
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 3: right now? How much did Aaron Donald get fully guaranteed? Oh?

1470
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 3: I give it to you. Hang on a second. Aaron Donald.

1471
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 2: One and thirty nine point sixteen million dollar contract.

1472
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 3: But what was the guarantee? Uh?

1473
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:42,839
Speaker 2: That was the that was the full contract, total guarantee

1474
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 2: ninety five.

1475
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 3: So when that happened, everybody was like, uh, what is

1476
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:54,799
Speaker 3: happening right now? You can't put that back inside the bottle.

1477
01:30:54,840 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 3: It doesn't go back in because the next up, A J.

1478
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 3: Watt I mean T J. Watt wins Defensive Player of

1479
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 3: the Year. Oh okay, what does this look like? Nick

1480
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 3: Bosa wins Defensive Player of the Year. No, what does

1481
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:11,600
Speaker 3: his look like? Now? M right? So you, as the

1482
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,679
Speaker 3: forty nine ers you know this. Now, if you don't

1483
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 3: see that type of value in him, which I know

1484
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 3: they do John Lynch being a Hall of Fame defensive player,

1485
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 3: then you understand what that is. You're never you're not

1486
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 3: going to fight. This is a generational talent. Yeah, you'll

1487
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 3: get some guys who can rush the passer and do

1488
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 3: all of that, but these are game When you're a

1489
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 3: defensive Player of the Year, you're a game changer. That's

1490
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 3: what made Aaron Donald so special because he did it

1491
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 3: from the middle of the line, no doubt, very difficult

1492
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 3: to do that at any time ever there is. He's

1493
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 3: ear replaceable.

1494
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 2: There's no discussion. There's no discussion whatsoever.

1495
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 3: So when you ask me about Brandon Nayuk, I'm like,

1496
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 3: I hope he enjoys the Giants.

1497
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, guy. And as I said, it's a fair answer.

1498
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 2: It's a completely fair answer. But if it was this

1499
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 2: cut and dry, if it was this simple, well then

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01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 2: why the hell isn't it done?

1501
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 3: We don't know, And that's the thing. We're trying to

1502
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 3: figure out what that thing is that is keeping it

1503
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 3: from being done. Now I can guarantee you this, and

1504
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 3: now I'm willing to put a dollar on it. It'll

1505
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 3: be done before opening day, It'll be done before the

1506
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 3: week of I yeah, it'll be done.

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01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not taking that at bet because I

1508
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 2: fully agree with you to have the entire time.

1509
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 3: This thing will get done. I can promise you that.

1510
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 2: Okay, give me the deadline by what Monday's practice a

1511
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 2: week from tomorrow?

1512
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 3: Yes, okay.

1513
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald's went all the way like almost up to

1514
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 2: kick off with one, didn't it and then he won

1515
01:32:54,040 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 2: dp O Y Yeah, likely much ado about it.

1516
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 3: Nothing, but it also doesn't make any sense. Yeah, you know.

1517
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 2: That's why it's an interesting holdout because of actually what

1518
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 2: you're saying. This seems like it's obvious it's a hard one.

1519
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 3: A player option or something like, I don't know, players

1520
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 3: don't get options in the NFF. It could something crazy.

1521
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:22,719
Speaker 3: Well answer that like coming up next.

1522
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 2: If he did go full Kirk Cousins and say, I like,

1523
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:28,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to know what the guarantee is. The

1524
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 2: guarantee is the whole thing, period, and I'm not signing

1525
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 2: until you do. If you were the Niners, would you

1526
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 2: say yes? Can answer that next coming up on Fox

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Speaker 2: buying should be ephrom if Nick went straight to the

1541
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 2: forty nine ers and said.

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01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, I'm gonna need the whole thing guaranteed. Okay.

1543
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:32,959
Speaker 2: If that's what he says with regard to this contract holdout,

1544
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 2: and you're the niners, what do you say back?

1545
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 3: Okay, sure that's it? Yes, what is your alternative?

1546
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 2: Well, this is interesting the way you're talking about it.

1547
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 2: And again I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm trying to

1548
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 2: learn here the way you're talking about it. I don't

1549
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:05,640
Speaker 2: know why there's a negotiation at all. I mean, are

1550
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 2: you literally suggesting that Nick just walks in and whatever

1551
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 2: he says, the Niners say yes.

1552
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, that's not what I'm saying. Okay,

1553
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:18,679
Speaker 3: it has to make sense, Okay, it has to make sense.

1554
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 3: Outside of his second year, he's started and played fourteen games,

1555
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 3: seventeen games, sixteen games. So he's there. He's in four years,

1556
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 3: three years. Really, he's had forty three sacks, one hundred

1557
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 3: and fifty six tackles, one hundred and six QB hits,

1558
01:35:53,479 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 3: fifty six tackle for losses, and roughly three years. You

1559
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 3: want him for the next five years? Correct, you're not

1560
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:12,400
Speaker 3: planning on Yes, you're not planning or shipping him off.

1561
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 3: This will be the cheapest time. The money is only

1562
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 3: going up. It's only going up. So if you locked

1563
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:29,599
Speaker 3: him in fully guaranteed for his five year deal, then

1564
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:33,679
Speaker 3: you expect him to be there five years. That gives

1565
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 3: him nine years as a Niner. So injury or whatever

1566
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 3: that is it, I mean, that's what happens. So if

1567
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 3: he says, yeah, I want to fully guarantee, well we

1568
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 3: don't do that. Well, some people are some people's contracts

1569
01:36:56,479 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 3: are fully guaranteed. Does the number matt the output and

1570
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 3: the talent? That's what you have to ask yourself. You're

1571
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 3: not paying a quarterback two hundred million dollars, which would

1572
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 3: make it almost impossible to sign Bosa to that type

1573
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 3: of deal. Correct. Correct, So you're in a position where

1574
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 3: you've actually lucked out because you're in it. You have

1575
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 3: your starting quarterback for the next however long with really

1576
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 3: no salary attached to it. I mean it's not even

1577
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 3: it's like a practice squad salary. Yeah, yep, yep, it's

1578
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 3: it's it doesn't resonate against the cap whatsoever. Nope. Eight

1579
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy thousand dollars to be exact this year.

1580
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:53,599
Speaker 3: That's it, and it'll go up to about nine hundred

1581
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 3: next year because of the league. You know, salary goes up.

1582
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 2: Yep, but that's it, and it'll get to one and

1583
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 2: it'll get to one point one million by year four.

1584
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 3: The year after that. So and if they've won the

1585
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, I've been to the NFC Championship these next

1586
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 3: two years, you may decide, hey, let's sign this kid

1587
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 3: to a deal. But even then it still doesn't have

1588
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:24,800
Speaker 3: to be what the market bears for quarterbacks because he's

1589
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 3: a seventh round draft pick. That's how it goes. Of course,

1590
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 3: they can walk up to him and say, we're going

1591
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,520
Speaker 3: to give you an extension.

1592
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 2: An extension twenty five million a year, takes injury out

1593
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 2: of play for next year.

1594
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 3: Like right, rockbirdy would in theory four years go out

1595
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,639
Speaker 3: there and yep, four years, twenty five million a year,

1596
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 3: hundred million dollar extension quarterback. Yeah, he'd sign it in

1597
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 3: a heartbeat.

1598
01:38:57,160 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 2: Right, That's like Garoppolo, Gino Smith money in a heartbeat.

1599
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 3: Yep. So when you so and me, if I'm upstairs,

1600
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:11,679
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, okay, well, we have that advantage coming,

1601
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 3: which is going to allow us to do a lot

1602
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 3: of different things. Number one thing is bringing the best

1603
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 3: young defensive player in the league home, no doubt. So

1604
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 3: one more question on that.

1605
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 2: Though, quarterbacks are often tasked with, and this is Tom

1606
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 2: Brady's fault, not necessarily tasked with. Maybe that's the wrong phrase,

1607
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 2: but because of what Tom Brady did, people will look

1608
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 2: at quarterbacks and say, you're the leader of the team.

1609
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 2: If you really want all of the best teammates around

1610
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 2: you to make you shine, maybe you're the one who

1611
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:53,639
Speaker 2: gives just a little bit back.

1612
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 3: Anybody doing that. No other quarterback is doing that except

1613
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 3: for Tom Brady. So oh yeah, I mean didn't do it.

1614
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:05,640
Speaker 3: Oh he did not. There are those who have a

1615
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 3: justin Herbert didn't do it.

1616
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 2: No, but Mahomes contract, one could argue, is team friendly.

1617
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's that's a different situation. Patrick Mahomes the

1618
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:19,679
Speaker 3: best player in the entire world, right, so he's he's

1619
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 3: not He's the outlier. He's not the standard. When Tom

1620
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 3: Brady was the best player in the world, he wasn't

1621
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 3: the standard. He's the outlier. Nobody else doing that. Both

1622
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 3: of those men have had Super Bowls. They're making more

1623
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 3: money off the field than any other player in the league.

1624
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, oh yeah, yea, yeah, okay, oh yeah, yeah, okay, okay,

1625
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 3: so yeah we're no, we're not doing that. No other

1626
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 3: players thinking like that because they're not the face of

1627
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:56,680
Speaker 3: the league. When you're the face of the league, you

1628
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 3: could be like, you know what, Yeah, I want to

1629
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 3: do this because it's more advantageous for you the more

1630
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:10,719
Speaker 3: success you have. You remember what Fox offered Tom Brady

1631
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:14,719
Speaker 3: when he retired, Right, I do what do you think

1632
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 3: if Patrick Mahomes keeps going at this clip. What do

1633
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:20,599
Speaker 3: you think they're gonna offer him? Oh God, it's not

1634
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 3: going to anyone else. There won't be a defensive end

1635
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 3: getting that. There won't be a receiver or running back

1636
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 3: getting anything close to that. I don't know. Michael Strahan

1637
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:34,639
Speaker 3: does pretty well, but he didn't get that coming out

1638
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 3: the league. They gave it to him before he even retired.

1639
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:39,760
Speaker 3: I know, Hey, we're gonna sign you to this, and

1640
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:41,599
Speaker 3: we're gonna hang on to it until you get ready

1641
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 3: to take it. I get, I get what you're saying.

1642
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 2: So what you're telling me right now is the only

1643
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 2: way that this is not the forty nine ers fault

1644
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:52,080
Speaker 2: is if Nick is asking for forty million a year guaranteed.

1645
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, if he's doing that, then and then it's like,

1646
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 3: hey man, hey, but.

1647
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,639
Speaker 2: If but if he's asking for thirty two to thirty

1648
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 2: three million a year, which would put him at one

1649
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:05,839
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty to one hundred and sixty five million total,

1650
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 2: and he's asking for all of it guaranteed, give it

1651
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:11,639
Speaker 2: to him.

1652
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 3: Okay, give it to him. Okay, it's your best player,

1653
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 3: it's the best player on your team. Give it to him.

1654
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:23,519
Speaker 2: If I had a baton in my hand right now,

1655
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 2: I would look at Steve De Sager and I would say,

1656
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 2: give it to him.

1657
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 3: Give it to him, Steve de Sager. Here's what's trending.

1658
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 6: We have our final NFL exhibition tonight. The preseason is

1659
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 6: over in about eleven minutes on the clock. It's fourth

1660
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 6: quarter in New Orleans. Yeah, I hear you, actual real

1661
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 6: football amazing coming up. Texan seventeen to ten leaders at

1662
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 6: New Orleans. Starting quarterback for the Saints tonight was Jamis Winston.

1663
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 6: He was eleven of sixteen passing ninety three yards and

1664
01:42:57,439 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 6: a short TD to Jimmy Graham. The roster cuts deadline

1665
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 6: is Tuesday. The Bears release quarterback PJ. Walker, the Titans

1666
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 6: cut kicker Michael Badgeley, the Colts release running back Kenyon Drake,

1667
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 6: and the Giants cut running back James Robinson, who was

1668
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:15,599
Speaker 6: also cut by the Patriots back in June. Brown's return.

1669
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:18,719
Speaker 6: Man Jaquem Grant is out for the year. Cleveland activated

1670
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 6: wide receiver Marquise Goodwin and acquired running back Pierre Strong

1671
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 6: from New England. The Steelers today traded offensive lineman Kevin

1672
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 6: Dotson to the Rams. Victor Hovelin won the PGA's Tour

1673
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 6: championship by five strokes in Atlanta. Xander Schaffley finished second,

1674
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 6: even though he shot sixty two. Today he earns a

1675
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:40,040
Speaker 6: mere six and a half million dollars as the runner up.

1676
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:44,680
Speaker 6: Hovelin gets the bonus of eighteen million dollars today for

1677
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 6: taking the tour title, and I'm sure a very very

1678
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:50,799
Speaker 6: nice trophy. At Basketball's World Cup, number five ranked France

1679
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:53,600
Speaker 6: was eliminated, missing a late three point try, losing to

1680
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 6: Latvia eighty eight eighty six. This is France that's gonna

1681
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:00,920
Speaker 6: host the Summer Olympics next year in Paris. France that

1682
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:03,840
Speaker 6: was in the Olympic final against the US just two

1683
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 6: years ago and lost a close game there. Evan fourty

1684
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 6: eight twenty seven points in today's defeat. Germany defeated Australia

1685
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 6: for the first time ever eighty five eighty two. Dennis

1686
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 6: Shrewder thirty points, eight assists, four steals in defeat. Patty

1687
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 6: Mills of the Aussies had twenty one points. Next game

1688
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 6: for Team USA Monday against Greece. Greece easily won its

1689
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 6: opener against Jordan. The Americans were down ten early in

1690
01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:30,640
Speaker 6: their opener, but eventually wax New England, New Zealand. I

1691
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:33,680
Speaker 6: should say ninety nine to seventy two. All of New

1692
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 6: England was looking at Mookie Betts this weekend as the

1693
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 6: Dodgers visited Fenway Park for the first time since his

1694
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 6: trade to La Mookie Bets homerd and the Dodgers beat

1695
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:45,839
Speaker 6: the Red Sox seven to four. This week, the Dodgers

1696
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 6: are home hosting Arizona and Atlanta. The Braves four game

1697
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 6: winning streak ended tonight at San Francisco Giants eight to five.

1698
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:56,680
Speaker 6: The final, Arizona won five to two over Cincinnati with

1699
01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:58,599
Speaker 6: three runs in the bottom of the eighth. I will

1700
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 6: say Red's rookie shortstop Elie Dala Cruz today had a

1701
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:04,720
Speaker 6: relay throat a home in the fifth inning that was

1702
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:07,719
Speaker 6: clocked at ninety nine point seven miles per hour.

1703
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 7: One of the.

1704
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 6: Fastest runners in the National League, maybe the rookie of

1705
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 6: the year this season. Corbyin Karra was trying for an

1706
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:16,640
Speaker 6: inside the park homer and was gunned out at the

1707
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 6: plate by Dela Cruz. Yet another highlight reel clip to

1708
01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 6: add Milwaukee won its eighth straight game, ten to six

1709
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 6: over San Diego. Minnesota won in thirteen innings, Cleveland won

1710
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 6: in eleven innings. Seattle three to two over Kansas City.

1711
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 6: The win to Luis Castillo was seven scoreless innings for

1712
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:36,599
Speaker 6: the Mariners, first time they've been in first place by

1713
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 6: themselves this late in the season in twenty years. They

1714
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 6: won eleven of their last twelve games victories for Tampa

1715
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 6: Bay and Philadelphia White Sox beat Oakland six to one.

1716
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 6: Let's see line score for the A's one run, two

1717
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 6: hits three airs struck out thirteen times, as well A's

1718
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 6: record thirty eight and ninety three at the Little League

1719
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 6: World Series else Agendo, California won the title on a

1720
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 6: walk off homer six or five over Kurras.

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01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 3: How back to you, Steve, Thank you very much.

1722
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 2: Steve talks about all the money Victor Hovlin made today,

1723
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 2: and I feel like live golfers are like, that's it.

1724
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 2: I mean, eighteen million dollars, that's it. That's all you

1725
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:22,639
Speaker 2: get for winning the whole banana.

1726
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 3: At the end, Steve, who's won the most this year

1727
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:32,599
Speaker 3: on the Live Golf Tour? All right, Steve going, he's

1728
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 3: gonna find that out. That's this is why we pay

1729
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 3: Steve the big bucks. Okay, this is you mean and

1730
01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:40,639
Speaker 3: you mean on the course on the course, yep, not

1731
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 3: not not the guarantees for joint no, no, just just you know,

1732
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:46,759
Speaker 3: person prize money. Yeah.

1733
01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well this is part of the problem. You have

1734
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 2: to look it up. You have no idea. I have

1735
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 2: no idea. And that's that's kind of the point, do

1736
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? It's like, you can go

1737
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 2: take your one hundred million to join the tour. And

1738
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that I wouldn't do the same, but

1739
01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 2: at least for now, it also means you're going to

1740
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 2: go play in relative anonymity.

1741
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:13,679
Speaker 7: Taylor Gooch fifteen million?

1742
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 3: Is that possible? Taylor healor Gooch? Exactly? That's what I'm like,

1743
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:20,759
Speaker 3: Zactly Taylor Goose.

1744
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:23,759
Speaker 6: Taylor and their season is not done. Oh but my goodness,

1745
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 6: I know we got the Ryder Cup coming up late September.

1746
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:30,240
Speaker 6: Live Golf still has three more events September Chicago, October

1747
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 6: in Saudi Arabia and Miami.

1748
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:35,519
Speaker 3: Taylor Gooch, you don't think Rory McElroy is better than

1749
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:40,600
Speaker 3: Taylor Gooch? Clean, I think Roy McElroy is better than

1750
01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 3: Taylor Gooch.

1751
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 6: This would just be individual earnings you know they have

1752
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:48,559
Speaker 6: that team competition every weekend Concurrent as well. Cameron Smith

1753
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 6: about ten mili plus any team winnings.

1754
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I won't get that money.

1755
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, and every event the individual winner gets four million dollars.

1756
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 6: So this is three more cracks at another four milof.

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01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:07,760
Speaker 2: Perfection perfection beautiful. No, but I've seen I've seen this

1758
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:10,680
Speaker 2: in our industry. I've seen this in our industry, and

1759
01:48:10,720 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 2: it's it's and it's in all industries right the the

1760
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 2: you have the established standard of an industry and they

1761
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 2: pay blank, they pay X, and then you have the

1762
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 2: upstart companies who know they need to pay more to

1763
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 2: get the employees to leave the establishment. And so you're

1764
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 2: you're sort of offered that that give and take. Do

1765
01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 2: you want more money and work in anonymity or a

1766
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 2: little bit less money to be out in the limelight.

1767
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 2: And what's worth more to me? What do you mean

1768
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:53,920
Speaker 2: you don't have to you don't know who I am?

1769
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:56,600
Speaker 3: Well, but no, But but that's different, do you know

1770
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 3: what I mean?

1771
01:48:57,160 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 2: Like sometimes that anonymity has a cost to it, or

1772
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 2: the other way is a better way.

1773
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:06,599
Speaker 3: To say it.

1774
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:08,639
Speaker 2: To be in the middle of it all, to have

1775
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 2: a platform and eyeballs and ears is worth money.

1776
01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:14,640
Speaker 3: That's worth money.

1777
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 2: To you out on the open market in a number

1778
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 2: of ways.

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01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, But being one hundredth pge golfer, how much money

1780
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:25,519
Speaker 3: is that worth to you?

1781
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's you mentioned those guys. I know,

1782
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:37,759
Speaker 2: Dustin Johnson and Brooks Kepka went, But why did Tiger

1783
01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:39,519
Speaker 2: Woods and Rory McElroy not go?

1784
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 3: Well, remember they were trying to start that little league

1785
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 3: thing right there. But right, and I can promise you this,

1786
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:52,120
Speaker 3: if they would have known what the PGA was planning

1787
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 3: on doing, I'm pretty sure maybe you might be right.

1788
01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 2: But at the same time, both of them sort of

1789
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 2: made Ah, they made an.

1790
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 3: Emotional play, Yeah they did. They can afford that because

1791
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:08,520
Speaker 3: they didn't get all the information.

1792
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 2: Well, no, it's also because they're already billionaires, right right,

1793
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 2: you offer somebody two hundred millionaire, I.

1794
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 3: Don't know a billionaire. I don't know a billionaire who

1795
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:25,599
Speaker 3: turns down a billion like I don't know, I hear you,

1796
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 3: I don't. It's it's hard to find that guy. But

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01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 3: if you really believe in something, yeah, but what if

1798
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:38,599
Speaker 3: that's something doesn't believe in itself, which obviously, right, so

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01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 3: literally when he turned that down two months later, they

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01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 3: were like, hey, we're well, we're now going to be

1801
01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 3: It's like, wait, what, thank you for going to bat

1802
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:55,160
Speaker 3: for us, but we're actually fine. To me, that's crazy.

1803
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:58,759
Speaker 3: I would be like, wait a minute, one second.

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01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:01,720
Speaker 2: I would be but less about the money and just

1805
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 2: more about being hung out to dry. Rory got hung

1806
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:09,559
Speaker 2: out to dry. He went to bat for somebody who

1807
01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:10,719
Speaker 2: didn't even want to bat.

1808
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:13,120
Speaker 3: For themselves at all. You have to swing in at

1809
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 3: the plate and they're.

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Speaker 3: To the beginning.

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Speaker 2: Was it indeed the worst pick the worst trade both

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Speaker 2: around about it earlier, because the kid is six foot one, uh,

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01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 2: but I don't know, Like somehow, I like, there's a

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01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:56,639
Speaker 2: piece of me that almost feels not bad for the kid,

1835
01:52:56,920 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 2: But I have a hard time imagining his sports life

1836
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 2: is ever gonna any better than it did today. That

1837
01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 2: that is one for the ages. A walk off to

1838
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:06,759
Speaker 2: win the Little League World Series.

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01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 3: Hey, brother, if he's twelve years old and six to one,

1840
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:14,599
Speaker 3: this isn't going to be a blip on the radar

1841
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:17,000
Speaker 3: of what he is about to go on and do

1842
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:21,360
Speaker 3: in his sports career. So you don't have to worry

1843
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 3: about that. This is gonna be a great momentum moment

1844
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:29,439
Speaker 3: and to push him into We're gonna be talking about this.

1845
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:31,920
Speaker 3: If he's six to one and he twelve years old

1846
01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 3: and he's doing that, Ah, come on, man, you're talking

1847
01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 3: about him for navy. Imagine, imagine, imagine you know, but listen, listen.

1848
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 3: Imagine where Shohey was at twelve and somebody seeing him

1849
01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:50,759
Speaker 3: be great. Think about it. Come hold on, Deon Sanders

1850
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:56,640
Speaker 3: at twelve, Lebron, we saw Lebron James at twelve. I know.

1851
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:59,240
Speaker 2: But everybody, for every one of those stories, there are

1852
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 2: twenty of the most amazing athlete in the town who

1853
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:07,799
Speaker 2: never made it because of decisions, because of the mental

1854
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 2: wherewithal whatever.

1855
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 3: You know, it takes more than talent. Man, you know this,

1856
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 3: Yeah I do. I understand that. But it does take talent. Okay,

1857
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 3: it does take talent too. The one thing it does take,

1858
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 3: it's talent. The other stuff that seems to be the

1859
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:35,880
Speaker 3: more difficult thing. But the one thing you can't do

1860
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 3: is get there without the talent. You can work as

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01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 3: hard as you can, you can work harder than anybody

1862
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 3: else on the planet Earth. But if the talent isn't there,

1863
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 3: my friend, you're just a hard worker. Mm hm. God,

1864
01:54:53,920 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 3: there is God. There are things called God's gifts. Six

1865
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 3: one at twelve years old. That is a gift from

1866
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 3: God because that puts you in the you're not even

1867
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 3: in the ninety nine, but you're in the one hundred

1868
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 3: percentile of human beings on the planet Earth, all seven

1869
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 3: and a half billion of them.

1870
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 2: Was this the one hundredth percentile of bad draft picks

1871
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:28,640
Speaker 2: two and a half years ago by the forty nine.

1872
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 3: Ers, Yes, Is this the one? This is the one.

1873
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 3: This is the one they're going to be laughing about

1874
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:39,000
Speaker 3: because it didn't affect them, which is crazy.

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01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:42,760
Speaker 2: Good, that's even crazier. That's even crazier than messing up

1876
01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:45,280
Speaker 2: a draft pick. Good and I just when we have

1877
01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 2: this conversation, it's not it's not for clickbait, it's not

1878
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:57,000
Speaker 2: for bluster, it's not for hyperbole. But as everybody lists

1879
01:55:57,480 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 2: the craziest and most unforeseen draft picks that didn't work out,

1880
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 2: they're forgetting that the forty nine ers gave up the

1881
01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 2: following year's first round and the following year after that

1882
01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 2: first round, all of that a third round or two

1883
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 2: simply to move up nine spots and.

1884
01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:28,840
Speaker 3: Take a player who started four games for.

1885
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 2: Them started four games for them, and oh, by the way,

1886
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:38,080
Speaker 2: they won two of them, and one of the ones

1887
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 2: that they won was the one he left about nine

1888
01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:48,760
Speaker 2: minutes in. It's just unbelievable. And as you just pointed out,

1889
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:55,000
Speaker 2: it is even crazier that this situation comes to a

1890
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 2: close on Friday, and two weeks from today, the forty

1891
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 2: nine ers will take the field as the favorites to

1892
01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:01,040
Speaker 2: win it all.

1893
01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:06,040
Speaker 3: Now, that is pulling a rabbit out of your head.

1894
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:09,000
Speaker 3: That is some stuff right there.

1895
01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:14,560
Speaker 2: I mean, what would you even take like the fan

1896
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:18,200
Speaker 2: basis is half of them are like, look, it happened,

1897
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:20,520
Speaker 2: but we're about to have this cool year. Let's go.

1898
01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:23,960
Speaker 2: And the other half can't get by it. They're stuck,

1899
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 2: they're mad, right.

1900
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:29,200
Speaker 3: I promise you they'll get by it as these wind

1901
01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:34,000
Speaker 3: totals go up. Well yeah, and we're mid season and

1902
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:37,200
Speaker 3: they're sitting right around seven and two or somewhere in there.

1903
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:39,880
Speaker 3: They're not gonna be thinking about Trey Lanes. Yeah.

1904
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:42,400
Speaker 2: But you hear people even in the media, Ryan Clark,

1905
01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 2: how are we letting Kys Shanahan off.

1906
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:48,360
Speaker 3: The hook because they're winning? What do you like? What

1907
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:49,080
Speaker 3: are you talking about?

1908
01:57:49,120 --> 01:57:52,960
Speaker 2: What? My question is, what does that even mean? What

1909
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 2: is leaving them on the hook? Look, like, what are

1910
01:57:57,200 --> 01:58:04,320
Speaker 2: you asking for? An apology? A firing? What exactly is

1911
01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:08,520
Speaker 2: it that is supposed to happen? And by the way,

1912
01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 2: his press conference after their game Friday night almost.

1913
01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:15,360
Speaker 3: Did sound like an apology.

1914
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:18,120
Speaker 2: He stood in front of a microphone and said, I

1915
01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:23,080
Speaker 2: feel like I let Trey Lance down. That's as much

1916
01:58:23,120 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 2: of an apology as you're going to get.

1917
01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:29,760
Speaker 3: And now move on, so much account as much accountability

1918
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 3: as you're gonna get, right, Yep, time to move on.

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01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:40,520
Speaker 2: They won't do that. Not not how the internet works

1920
01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:41,360
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three.

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01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:44,840
Speaker 3: Hey man, you keep winning, they will move on, I

1922
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 3: promise you. And if they don't, who cares? What's funny? Well? Right,

1923
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:51,960
Speaker 3: who cares? Well?

1924
01:58:51,960 --> 01:58:56,480
Speaker 2: Who cares? The Niners fans care? But the point is,

1925
01:58:56,480 --> 01:58:58,280
Speaker 2: is it a fair point?

1926
01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:00,160
Speaker 3: Your fans just want to win. They don't care or

1927
01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:03,640
Speaker 3: whose quarterback or what draft pick they came in. They

1928
01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 3: they just want to win, period, first round, last round,

1929
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 3: no round, I don't care.

1930
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:16,720
Speaker 2: Next week is our last show where we won't won't

1931
01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:18,080
Speaker 2: have football that day.

1932
01:59:18,280 --> 01:59:18,800
Speaker 3: That's true.

1933
01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:22,440
Speaker 2: Okay, we got one more big man and then we're

1934
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:25,160
Speaker 2: gonna get after Mark with it from salam everybody have

1935
01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:26,800
Speaker 2: a really good night,