1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey you welcome to Stuff to Blow 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: your Mind. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas. 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: First of all, if I sound a little weird on 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: today's podcast, I apologize. I recently had some whizisdom teeth 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: taken out and my mouth is not completely helled, so 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: I may sound a little whistle word. I don't know, 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: like you've got cotton in the back of your mouth. Yeah, 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: but you might seem wiser, yeah, yes, or at least 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: you've dumped that vestigial junk in your mouth and know 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's right. We had the whole episode 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: in the past on parts of our bodies that we've 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: abandoned and no longer need, and yet they're still around, 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: and then the question of well, have we really left 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: them behind completely? Maybe they do have a purpose, just 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: a purpose that we don't have to use as much 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: in modern times. So I was thinking about that a 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: little bit though in the past few days I've been, 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: especially with some of your pinkillers. Yeah, alright, so what 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: are we talking about today? Today? We are talking about 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: falling out of airplanes. Or falling in airplanes. Either way 22 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: you want to look at it. What is your philosophy 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: on this? You've flown, but what is it like? What 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: goes through your mind when you're taking off, when you're landing, 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: when you're up there? Are you afraid of falling in 26 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: the plane? You have a survival plan in mind? What's 27 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: your dealing I don't really have a survival plan in mind, 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: although after this podcast I know I will. But I 29 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: think that everybody to some degree is very frightened of 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: the proposition of crashing in a plane, right because a 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: plane seems crazy to us at some level that we 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: could be thirty thou feet in the air, supported by 33 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: these wings that are just dealing with with the pressure 34 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: of air that's forcing them upwards and keeping us afloat. 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: So my feeling is that everybody has had some level 36 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: of anxiety, especially after you've ever experienced a really bad flight, 37 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: or even just a somewhat bad flight. Yeah. I mean, 38 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: on a basic level, we're going to a place where 39 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: man does not belong and and we and and we 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: know it. You're up really high, and if that plane 41 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: were to plummet, and sometimes they do, there's a very 42 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: good chance that it would kill us. True, and I 43 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: mean again, you're hurling through the air in a metal capsule. 44 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: You have no control. What's no control. The control of 45 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: the airplane is in the hands of people on the 46 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: other side of often the locked door. You're told to 47 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: set an appropriate place, You're told when to get up, 48 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: when to set down, when you can go to the bathroom. 49 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, especially if you're a control freak, 50 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: that can be a very intense situation. And adding some 51 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: claustrophobia on top of that, and you've got quite a 52 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: stressful time in a well. And then you look at 53 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: the chump next to you and you think, is this 54 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: person we're going to help out? You know when the 55 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: everything hits the fan? Yeah, I don't know. Well, it's 56 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: been my experience that in the past on flights, I'll 57 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: be kind of concerned taking off where I'm like, oh, 58 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: this could be this could be it, this could be 59 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: the last flight, right, And then as I get going, 60 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: if I am seated near annoying enough people, I'll end 61 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: up focusing on that and by the end of the flight, 62 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: I will be wishing that we would crash into the ocean. 63 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: So it is my irritation with with my fellow humans 64 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: ends up exceeding my fear of death in the airplane. 65 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: All right, Well, before we play into everybody's fears about 66 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: falling and crashing, let's actually talk about how this is 67 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: truly in irrational fear. Yes, okay, so despite the horror 68 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: stories that we hear about plane crashes, that the real 69 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: lesson here is that people will actually make it through 70 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: crashes more often than not. According to the National Transportation 71 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: Safety Board, of passengers involved in plane crashes survived, the 72 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: majority of airplane accidents involve only non fatal injuries and 73 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: aircraft damage. Okay, so me, if you think about a 74 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: flight taking off or landing, that's usually when you have 75 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: some sort of crash situation. So just everybody knows it's 76 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: the rule of plus three minus eight plus the first 77 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: three minutes in the last eight minutes of the flight, 78 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: those are the times when you statistically have the greatest 79 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: chance of something happening. Right, So, yes, that's probably what 80 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: when people are most nervous. But you should know that 81 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: these flights are mostly survival. So let's also talk about 82 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: flying versus driving, because this gives us a really good 83 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: hold on what your chances are of perishing in one 84 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: of these two ways. For starters, I should mention that 85 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: the number of successful flights worldwide and two thousand eleven 86 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: alone thirty eight million, two point eight billion passengers that 87 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: were flying safely in because the year alone, And that 88 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: relates to the fact that I would use early on 89 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: to I mean, I was never like super afraid of flying, 90 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: but I would never go a little tense, and I 91 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: would just remind myself, when is the last time I 92 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: solntvd an entire basketball team was wiped out, or an 93 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: entire roster of a wrestling promotion, or people that fly 94 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: on a regular basis and they're still flying and they've 95 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: been flying on their whole lives. If crashing were really 96 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: that huge for a possibility, it would just be like 97 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: every year you'd see a basketball team just go down 98 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: in flames. And so that's what you see here. An 99 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: enormous number of people fly every day, and the vast 100 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: majority of them are not perishing. And then when you 101 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: look at it compared to cars, all right, if you 102 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: look at the total, we're looking at thirty four thousand, 103 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: two hundred nine transportation fatalities in the US alone in 104 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, we break those down, we have 105 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: twelve thousand, four hundred and thirty five from passenger cars, 106 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: pretty extensive, and then we have six hundred seventy two 107 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: from boats recreational boats, and then only four hundred and 108 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: seventy two from all aviation. And I do think it's 109 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: interesting to note to that in two thou eight, the 110 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: US fatality rate was less than one per billion passenger trips, okay, 111 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: and then if you compare that to the US road 112 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: fatalities thirty five thousand and up, that's quite a difference, right, Yeah. 113 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: The global accident rate for Western built planes actually improved 114 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: in two thousand eleven, going from about one crash for 115 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: every one point six Newigan flights to one crash for 116 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: every two point seven million flights. And those stats, by 117 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: the way, are from this awesome infographic that house stuff 118 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: Works created for a curiosity website. I think I've linked 119 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: to it before on the Facebook page, and I'll help 120 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: link to it again with the blog folks that accompanies 121 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: of this podcast. So what we're seeing here is a 122 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: manifestation of our psychological fears. Right. There's a good study 123 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: that actually plays this out, and it's a study of 124 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: the impact of nine eleven on road fatalities. So in 125 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: two thousand and five, Garrett Blaylock wanted to measure the 126 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: psychological effects of fear flying with nine eleven. Of course 127 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: is the context, since the public had suddenly shunned flying 128 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: for fear of more unfolding terrorist plots. Yeah, everyone remembers, 129 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: O this went down. Um, nine eleven occurred. You had 130 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: these hijacked planes, you have these fatalities, and people got 131 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: tense about flying. The flight industry got tense about people flying. 132 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: Everybody was tense, and so a lot of people ended 133 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: up instead of taking that vacation that involved a flight, 134 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: they scaled down and they decided to drive instead. So 135 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: you have more people on the road. They're feeling safer, 136 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: right because when's the last time the terrorist attacked occurred 137 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: on a Honda. Yeah, but exactly. But it's possible, I suppose. 138 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: But this actually increased people's exposure to fatal crashes. Americans 139 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: wound up suffering extra fatalities, and Laylock said that our 140 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: findings reveal an additional two hundred forty two road fatalities 141 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: per month for the period from October two thousand and 142 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: one to December two thousand and one. Yeah, they calculated 143 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: extra fatalities, which is more than died in the nine 144 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: eleven air crashes themselves, just the crashes, mind you. Right, So, okay, 145 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: we've planned some stats that you guys, we're gonna take 146 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: a break and we get back. We're going to talk 147 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: about how to best survive a crash and free fall. 148 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: All right, we're back, and I want to point out 149 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: just to throw one more alarming and comforting stat If 150 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: you're flying, one in five million. That's the approximate odds 151 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: of dying in a plane crash in the United States. 152 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: The odds of dying in a car crash one eight five. 153 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: If you're listening to this prior to your flight, are 154 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: on your flight, breathe a sigh of relief. If you're 155 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: driving home listening to this, look around you tighten up, 156 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: very careful. Maybe turn off the podcast. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, okay, 157 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: so you're up in the air. Let's talk about who, 158 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: statists stickly is going to survive crash. Well, birds obviously 159 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: not all birds, right, Well, driven quite a lot of 160 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: birds crashing with plane lailing. Yeah, insects, beings that are 161 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: composed either of water, or have a less compact body 162 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: system going on, right, okay, all right? According to popuar Mechanics, 163 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: their article how to Fallow feet and Survive by Dan 164 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: Keppel says that statistically, it's best to be a flight 165 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: crew member, a child, or traveling in a military aircraft, 166 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: and that over the past four decades there have been 167 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: at least a dozen commercial air lines crashes with just 168 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: one survivor, and of those documented, four of the survivor's 169 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: were crew in seven more passengers under the age of eighteen. Now, 170 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: for the crew members, it's easy enough to explain this, 171 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: and they have better restraint systems. And as we'll talk 172 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: in a little bit, if you were to survive a 173 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: crash and say that the plane sort of just split 174 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: in half and you were hurtling through the air, would 175 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: be better to me in your seat. But I don't 176 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: want to get into that quite yet. The big question 177 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: is why do children survive? And there's no consensus on this, 178 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: but there is this idea that children under the age 179 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: of four, especially under the age of four, have more 180 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: flexible skeletons, more relaxed muscle tone. Us and we actually 181 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: talked about exactly We talked about this concept before, um, 182 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: I believe it was getting shocked or surviving lightning volts. 183 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: Lightning volts, lightning volts of coursing through your body. That 184 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: if you happen to be picked up by a tornado 185 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: or some other force and dumped on the ground, it 186 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: would be better if you were kind of out if 187 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: you've been hit. I think what the example was if 188 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: you had been hit by say a lamp first, because 189 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: if your body is relaxed, it's much more apt to 190 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: actually deal with the shock of being put down by 191 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: a tornado in another place anyway, Well, this often comes 192 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: up in discussions of drunk driving fatalities as well. Obviously 193 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: that you have a situation where the drunk driver is 194 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: more out of it and therefore they're less tents. Yeah, 195 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: is the sober individual is more tense understandably when someone 196 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: slams into them, and then the survival rate is sometimes 197 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: better for the actual drunk driver in the scenario. So kids, 198 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: they have more relaxed special turnus and so that's what 199 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: we're actually talking about here. And then a higher proportions 200 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: subcutaneous fat which helps to protect internal organs, right, and 201 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: then smaller people whose heads are lower than the seat 202 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: backs in front of them are shielded more so short 203 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: chebby children with a relaxed attitude about life. Yeah, meditating. 204 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: Yeah no, I mean that's not actually funny to talk about, 205 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: but um we can find humor in it. Yeah, well, 206 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know we're talking about subject is a 207 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: serious subject. So that is why they think that those 208 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: are the folks that tend to survive crashes. So it's 209 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: good to be in a better restraint system or shrink 210 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: yourself the safest place on the plane. Now, this have 211 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: come up against different information on this. Popular Mechanics analyzed 212 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: data from every commercial jet wreck in the United States 213 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: from nineteen we went to two thousand and five, and 214 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: they included that people sitting near the tail have a 215 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: higher chance of survival than those sitting in the front. Well, 216 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: one of the classic examples will look at in a 217 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: little bit was a tailgun and at the seventeen So yeah, yeah, 218 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: And then there's other data that says if you are 219 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: sitting about five seats from the exit doors, then you're 220 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: in better shape. But some other people who say it 221 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: was only in the case of a fire because the 222 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: proximity of the door really gives you an advantage. Another 223 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: good place the escape from New York Air Force one 224 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: escape pod. If you remember this from the movie No, 225 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: I don't. Is this the Bruce willis No, No No. 226 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: This is Kurt Russell and John Carpenter's epic. Oh yeah, 227 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: Donald Pleasants played the president estrangely enough, British Donald Pleasants, 228 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: and he climbed in it and it like falls out 229 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: of the plane and bounces. There's another strategy. And then 230 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: there's the Golden time. Yes, the Golden time, which isn't 231 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: as happy and stress free as it sounds. But this 232 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: revers to the critical ninety seconds immediately following impact. So 233 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: in a survival crash, obviously you have fatalities that a 234 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: Kurblin aircraft hits the ground, But then after the plane 235 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: to sit the ground, what happens hasardous chemicals are released, 236 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: Things begin to set fire, things start to get out 237 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: of control. So you have about ninety seconds after you 238 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: hit the ground where you need to flee the vessel. Yeah, 239 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: And I think that this is particularly important in takeoff 240 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 1: and landing crashes, right because these are when they have 241 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: the whole slides and everything that the inflatable slides, because 242 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: the whole idea is something's gone wrong, and even if 243 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: it's just a matter of the plane getting whacked up 244 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: a bit or doing a very rough valley landing, we 245 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: need to get everyone away from it because the vessel 246 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: is potentially compromised at this point, right, So those ninety 247 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: seconds are your chance to calm yourself and try to 248 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: think rationally and logically. Those are the people who tend 249 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: to survive more if they can harness that and not 250 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: panic and freak out. Another thing I wanted to point 251 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: out to is that, according to the f f A, 252 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: using the brace position is three times safer than sitting 253 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: upright in a crash. So there actually is a point 254 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: to the whole the brace you know that can cover 255 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: exactly So just in case you thought that was something 256 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: that was created to make you feel better about the flight, 257 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: like know, sort of like they say, oh, you've got 258 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: your floating cushion underneath, and sometimes I think, really, such 259 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: a psychological you know that actually is helpful as well 260 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: as the floating cushion. So let's say you are falling, 261 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: either the plane has split open and you're you've been 262 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: thrown free of it, or miraculously you've managed to work 263 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: your way to an exit and throwing yourself out of 264 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: the plane. Now you're just you're falling, bon are you 265 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: at this point? Well, gravity is pulling you towards Earth 266 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: and you're going faster. Right, Let's talk about it in 267 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: that perspective. And like any moving object, you create drag 268 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: more as your speed increases, and when downward forced equals 269 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: upward resistance, acceleration stops and you max out. And the 270 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: popular mechanics article put that max about usually like the 271 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: average about a hundred twenty miles per hour. So right 272 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: now you know that unless you can create more drag 273 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: and you can slow down a bit, you're probably going 274 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: to make impact at one per hour on something, right, Yeah, 275 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: the terminal velocity things really interesting in terms of survival falls. 276 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: Radio Lab did an episode a couple of years back 277 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: now about falling and they had a segment that dealt 278 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: with the reality of cats falling out of high rise 279 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: windows in New York City, which they do. You know, cats, 280 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: they are locked up inside and they all have that 281 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: intense call of the wild and well, yeah, nine lives 282 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: and they desperately want to get outside and eat some 283 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: grass and puke and eat some birds and puke a 284 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: little more and lay in the dust and roll around 285 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: it and all that stuff. So inevitably somebody opens a 286 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: window leaves it cracked or something, and the cat will 287 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: go out, get a little over excited and plummet and 288 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: in this particular radio but they talked about how there's 289 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: like a lower level range. Of course, cats are very 290 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: agile and they're good at surviving falls from low level, 291 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: so certain lower stories on building everything is good. Then 292 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: there's a mid range where the cat is pretty much 293 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: boned because it's going to be a lethal fall. But 294 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: then there's an upper level where suddenly survivalism kicks back 295 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: in a again. And it has to do with terminal velocity. 296 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: The argument here is in these scenarios, cats fell far 297 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: enough that they achieved terminal velocity and they were spread 298 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: out and then they were able to manage their fall successfully. 299 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: It's kind of the argument here. Well, and then that's interesting. 300 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: You say that there's a stat from the Geneva based 301 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: Aircraft Crashes Record Office and they say that about a 302 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: hundred and eighteen thousand people have died in more than 303 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand plane crashes between nine and eight okay, Uh, 304 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: confirmed or plausible accounts of lift to tell about incidents 305 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: is only a hundred fifty seven and of those hundred 306 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: fifty seven, only forty two occurring at heights over ten 307 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: thousand feet. So to your point, the higher up obviously, 308 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: the more of a drop in, the more terminal velocity 309 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: you talked about managing the fall. Yes, this is a 310 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: really interesting concept. Well. First of all, as the Popular 311 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: Mechanics article points out, one thing you can do is 312 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: if you see a piece of the plane floating, they're 313 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: falling with you rather not floating. Uh. If you can 314 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: wedge yourself in there, you might have an increased chance 315 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: of survival. Right. The more debris that you can kind 316 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: of land on top of, the better, right. Nine seventy 317 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: two Serbian flight attendant by the name of Vestna Bolivick, 318 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: she was in a d C nine over Czechoslovakia, blows up. 319 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: She ends up following thirty three thousand feet which between 320 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: her seat and a catering trolley in the section of 321 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: the aircraft, and she ends up surviving. So it's severely 322 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: injured but survives thirty three thousand foot drop. There's actually 323 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: a term for this called wreckage. Writing writing. Yeah, so 324 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: if you can kind of gather yourself around that debris, 325 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: the better, and thirty three thousand feet is that is incredible. 326 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: Of course, she sustained some serious injuries, but she lived 327 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: to tell about it. There's another person named Julianne Copecki. 328 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: On Christmas Eve nineteen seventy one, she was on the 329 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: airplane and it was traveling over the Amazon when it 330 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: exploded and she woke up on the jungle floor. She 331 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: was strapped into her seat. Again, this is important. That 332 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: seat helped, you know, with her fall. In terms of 333 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: christening her fall. She was surrounded by falling holiday gifts. 334 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: She remembered advice from her father, a biologist that because 335 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: she obviously she was like, I'm very hurt here, but 336 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: I have survived it, and she sort of just compartmentalized. 337 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: She remembered the advice from her father, which was to 338 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: find civilization. When lost in the jungle, you should follow water. 339 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: So she's got a broken collar bone, she's got maggot 340 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: filled injuries, right, and she's wading through all of these 341 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: streams until she gets to bigger and bigger bodies of water, 342 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: and then finally she finds a canoe. It takes her 343 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: like forever to get in the canoe because again she's injured. 344 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: And she gets to the banks where she finds some 345 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: lumberjacks and it takes two hours to scale this hill. 346 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: Before she can they finally see her. But again this 347 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: is this is really interesting survival information. That is best 348 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: to leave the plane crash if possible, because that's really 349 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: gonna up your chances of survival. But before you can 350 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: leave the plane crash, of course, you have to hit 351 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: the ground. Yes, it's unavoidable. The fall is one thing, 352 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: but it's that sudden stop at the end. There was 353 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: the Kids in the Hall sketch back in the day 354 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: where an individual has a parachute on and they're doing 355 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: skydiving and the first person jumps out is his shoe 356 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: doesn't open and he splats on the ground. The second 357 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: one does it splats on the ground. I think it's 358 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: the third two. And the whole time there's a guy 359 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: back in the line and he's doing running the stats 360 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: in his head. He's like, what are the chances of 361 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: one person dying during a sky dive And he's calculating 362 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: those odds and what are the chances of too what 363 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: are the chances of three? And then he finally convinces 364 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: himself that his best odds are to jump out without 365 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: a shoot and to hit the ground running that if 366 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: he's running fast enough in mid air, he'll survive. Um, 367 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: that is not one of the tactics that we ran across. 368 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: But there are basically two schools of thought. First of all, 369 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: you want to be like that cat. You want to 370 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: be like that skydiver here in the fall. You want 371 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: to spread out so that you can you can flying squirrel. Yeah, yeah, 372 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: so you can achieve terminal velocity well, and because you're 373 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: slowing yourself down a bit and you're able to maneuver 374 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: a little while. Yeah. And of course here's the thing though, 375 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: once you impact is eminent, you got to change your 376 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: body position because that would obviously result in this flat 377 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: right there. According to studying the Journal War Medicine, they 378 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: would argue for staying more or less in this position. 379 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: They're saying wide body impact is ideal, which makes a 380 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: certain amount of sense. I mean, it's kind of like 381 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: if you're on thin ice, you want to spread out right, 382 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 1: you know, down. But then in nineteen sixty three report 383 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: by the Federal Aviation Agency argued that shifting into the 384 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: classic skydiverse landing stance feed together heels up, flex knees 385 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: and hips was the best to increase survivability because I 386 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: really see the other one as being sort of a 387 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: vehicle for splatness. And then there's this idea of landing 388 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: in water, which perferably you should not. Yeah, perferably you 389 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: shouldn't because ultimately, landing quote unquote in water is going 390 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: to be like landing quote unquote in concrete. The concrete 391 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: is not going to give. There's gonna be no bounce 392 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: to that. Well, there's gonna be some bounce, but it's 393 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: not gonna be the concrete. It's gonna be doing it likewise, 394 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: hitting water to high speed. You've ever done a belly 395 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: flop into a pool, imagine that from thirty feet it's 396 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: gonna be like it in concrete. You're gonna bust apart 397 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: on it. And then those pieces are gonna sink, but 398 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: only after you've made impact unless you position yourself like 399 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: a pencil. Right, And again, it's not attet that you're 400 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: free falling this. You hit it after a thousand feet. Yeah, 401 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: there's this idea of the knife like entry, right, Okay, 402 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: so I guess you can think of yourself as sort 403 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: of like just dipping in with your feet as flexed 404 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: as possible. For your flex and for God's sake, clinch 405 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: your button. They do say this. They say this, They 406 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: say for obvious reasons, not joking around here, clench your 407 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: buttocks if you're going in in that direction. And they 408 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: do talk a bit about divers. In of Poco cliff divers, 409 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: they do a position where they go head first. They're 410 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: jumping off cliffs, not airplanes, right, obviously, lock their fingers 411 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: and only their fingers, hold that above their head, and 412 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: do so in a way that protects they had because 413 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: that's the big thing. Your head is obviously a very 414 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: essential part of your anatomy, and if it's hitting the 415 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: water anywhere near first, it's gonna need protection, even though 416 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: nobody wants to take it right in the face, because 417 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, obviously that's the money maker if you had 418 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: to choose better, the front of the face in the 419 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: back of the head, right, right, So just don't worry 420 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: about vanity. If you had to, that's what you would 421 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: want to expose that part of your head. Right now, 422 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: most of the world is water, so there's a good 423 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: chance you won't have any choice but to land in water. 424 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: But if you're over land, your options are a little different. Obviously, 425 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: you don't want to aim for the concrete. That would 426 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: be bad. A big, giant, fluffy pile of cotton would 427 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: be ideal. Yes, something that's gonna give this gonna cushion 428 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: the fall. But amazingly enough, things like a glass roof 429 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: can actually help. All right, Right, this is a World 430 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: War two right, Yeah, this is a man. We mentioned 431 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: the B seventeen earlier. The seventeen was a plastic American 432 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: bomber from World War two, beautiful aircraft. This guy was 433 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: the tail gunner Alan McGhee. His B sevent team was 434 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: blown up in a nine mission over France. He survived 435 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: a twenty foot crash into a train station through a 436 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 1: glass glass roof, and then he was subsequently captured by 437 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: German troops. But that's amazing you under arrest, and if 438 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna be captured by the German straining World War two, 439 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: better that you're in aviation dude, because they did receive 440 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: better treatment. Obviously, this guy probably got a few slaps 441 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: on the back from these guys in a couple more ribs. 442 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: But the thing is he fell through the glass, and 443 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: even though nobody wants to fall through a pane of glass, 444 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: it does cushion the fall a little bit. It slows 445 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: you down a little before you hit the stone underneath, 446 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: and he eventually hits you know, concrete or stones. You 447 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: see a similar thing, oddly enough, in pro wrestling, wherein 448 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: some of the matches that involve people falling, they'll fall 449 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: through tables. And I'm sure a lot of you have 450 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: seen this where they'll have like a folding table set 451 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: up at ringside. Somebody will fall off the top of 452 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: the turnbuckle and they'll go through the table and then 453 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: hit the concrete floor, and the crowd tends to go 454 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: wild because it makes this awesome noise and you see 455 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: wood breaking and it looks like a train wreck, and 456 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: then it's awesome in its own way, and it's perfectly realist. Well, 457 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: nothing has been messed away. Sometimes the tables have been 458 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: pre cut to facilitated better fall. But it's weird because 459 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: in the US, anyone living in the US knows what 460 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 1: kind of tables we're dealing with, These big folding tables 461 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: like you have it like a I don't know, like 462 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: a church. Yeah, I was gonna say, like a basement church, 463 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: basement church, food orally or in the school cafeteria. Second 464 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: of thing. In Japan, they don't seem to have those. 465 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: The Japanese version of a folding table is a much 466 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: more torturous looking, smaller, slimmer table, So in Japan, when 467 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: someone falls to the table, they go through those. But 468 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: in either case, even though it seems more devastating and 469 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: it's more dramatic, it's actually better for the person who 470 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: is falling off of that turnbuckle or whatever it is 471 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: helping to cushion their fall before that, ye, same principle, 472 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: before they hit that concrete. And incidentally, one of the 473 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: articles we were looking at did point out that wrestlers 474 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: and acrobats have a better chance of surviving a plane crash. 475 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: That was that the one from the sixties. Yeah, And 476 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: they were saying something like, if you practice martial arts 477 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: that you could apply some I guess some of the 478 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: psychology of it to your plane crash, which I suppose, 479 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: but I don't know. The karate chop the air. So 480 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: obviously aim for something if you can, if you have 481 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: any choice, and you can position yourself to do so, 482 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: aim towards something softer, be that grass ground that's great, 483 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: swamp even better, a stacked pillow factory. Pine trees not 484 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: so much kind of like they can slow you down, 485 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: but they can also impale you. Okay, So this is 486 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: what we know so far about what's happening during a crash. 487 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: But pretty soon we may have an actual better idea 488 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: of actual principles at hand. And the reason is because 489 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: on equal this year, two twelve of Boeing seven seven 490 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: was deliberately crash landed in a remote and uninhabited Mexican desert. 491 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: On board were cameras and crash test dummies that were 492 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: used for the experiment, and this was pulled off for 493 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: a documentary by Discovery Channel and Channel four. And this 494 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: documentary is due to be aired later this year and 495 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: should really give us actually some insight into what go 496 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: going on during a fatal crash. I'll just mention to 497 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: you it's filled with crashed on these not not any um, 498 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: no actual discovery or TLC talent. I don't no, no, 499 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: I hope we haven't had interfears too much and we 500 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: actually give you some good information on free falling and 501 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: what that's like. And actually, with the chances are that 502 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: you would be involved in a fatal crash, I should 503 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: add that in my own experiences with flying, and again, 504 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: I never suffered from anything even resembling like crippling fear 505 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: of flying. You got to where I would look at 506 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: it from a point of view like, all right, it 507 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: is out of my control what happens, and and if 508 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: I crash and die, then well that's going to happen. 509 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: And the best thing that I can do given that 510 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: slight chance, is to realize, hey, I've had a good 511 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: run so far. Or if I'm traveling with my wife, 512 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: I'll remind myself I'm with the person that means the 513 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: most to me. So you know, mnfol just told her 514 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 1: hand and see what happens, which is good device. But 515 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: you should know that for twenty of the public, they 516 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: actually suffer from fear of flying, a phobia. And so 517 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: it's very hard to say like I'm gonna step on 518 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: this plane, I'm gonna go on vacation, and I'm going 519 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: to face the possibility of my impending mortality. Yeah, but again, 520 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: if you die, all right, so well, I mean it's 521 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Death is one of those things. Sure it's 522 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: something to be afraid up, but everybody does it, so 523 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: it can be that much thing to everybody's doing it. 524 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: Everybody's going to do it eventually, and if you go 525 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: out in a plane crash, it's at least gonna be 526 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: um substantial. I don't know, all right, Okay, Well on 527 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: that note, Well, my mouth is growing tired, so I'm 528 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: only going to read one quick listener mail, but I 529 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: promise we'll catch up on some of the awesome stuff 530 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: that we're hearing from other folks in future episodes. Here's 531 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: one from Matthew, and Matthew writes in in regards to 532 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: contact lenses of the Gods, I was immediately cast into 533 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: whirlwind of imagery revolving around the traditional assembly line workers 534 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: and their transition from assembly to control of machinery that assembols. 535 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: This led to the thought of our current medical system 536 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: and the idea of our medical schools requiring its applicants 537 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: to be intelligent in the future. My mind pictures hospitals 538 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: in the nature of an assembly line, with a host 539 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: of unskilled labors making sure that the machines are functional 540 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: and occasionally troubleshoot the aspect of the current educational system 541 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: crumbling in the phase of technology. I feel that until 542 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: we are able to perfect AI, there will always be 543 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: the need for those who can retain and develop new knowledge. 544 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: Cyborg does a definition I believe will start drifting to 545 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: that of robots becoming more human. I believe that his 546 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: technology develops, humans will trend away from machinery and resort 547 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: to biomechanical and then eventually the regrowth of appendages and tissue, 548 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: which we currently replace with tool of objects. So there 549 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: you go. I love it when podcast stars people's minds 550 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: regarding the future of our civilization. Indeed, all right, my 551 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: cyborg friend, where can people find us? If you're on Facebook, 552 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: you can find us at stuff to Blow your Mind. 553 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: You can do a search on that end that will 554 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: take you right to us. 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