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Speaker 1: First Date of follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury

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Speaker 1: Attorneys online at advocatesla dot com.

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Speaker 2: Pam is on the phone today for a first date

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Speaker 2: follow up and she is getting ghosted by a dude

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Speaker 2: named Jason.

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Speaker 3: Pam, thank you for coming on the show. Sorry you're

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Speaker 3: getting ghosted.

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Speaker 4: How long are you?

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Speaker 3: How long has it been since you talked to Jason?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Eight days?

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Speaker 3: Eight days?

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Speaker 1: Okay, no dis counting.

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Speaker 3: Hours.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think he's ghosting you? Is there anything

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Speaker 1: that happened?

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Speaker 4: You know, it was a great date, Like it was

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Speaker 4: really good. You know, we knew each other in high school,

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Speaker 4: and it felt like we were just worth talking again

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Speaker 4: like we were in high school.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there was like no time had gone by, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, there was no awkwardness. It went really well. I

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Speaker 4: don't know, I'm kind of a hippie. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if I'm like too much of a hippie, Like he

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Speaker 4: doesn't like that way of thinking kind of thing because

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Speaker 4: he's a lawyer, so I don't know. We went to

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Speaker 4: a fancy restaurant and I was wearing a Halter dress,

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Speaker 4: but like he that's really cool, Like he looked like

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Speaker 4: he was out of a j crue catalog. I hear me.

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Speaker 4: He was like so hot, like like he was in

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Speaker 4: high school somehow at age onel but so he aged well.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if I was too dressed down.

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Speaker 3: I mean, did he say something or are you just

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Speaker 3: like assuming.

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Speaker 4: No, Like the conversation went really well, so I didn't

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Speaker 4: really pick up any cues that it wasn't going well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I would hate that if it was the outfit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, after the pandemic, we're all like,

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Speaker 1: can't I just wear a yoga pants everywhere?

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Speaker 4: I know, I'm a photographer and I do well. But

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Speaker 4: you know, he's a lawyer, So I don't know if

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Speaker 4: it's the money thing, So I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean that those are just my guesses.

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Speaker 2: So you think maybe you're getting ghosted. A money thing

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Speaker 2: could be a possibility because he's a lawyer in the're

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Speaker 2: a photographer, and right, what are the other reasons?

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Speaker 3: Again?

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Speaker 4: You know, just in my way of thinking, you know,

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Speaker 4: because I am kind of a hippie chick, you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's a different way than a lawyer, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So what does that mean exactly?

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Speaker 2: He's like I pay attention to laws because I'm a

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Speaker 2: lawyer and you're like, I think there should be no laws.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, he's just straight laced, do you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like those are your insecurities that maybe

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Speaker 1: are coming out a little bit or do you think

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Speaker 1: that which could have been kind of obvious in the conversation,

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Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Or is this maybe

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Speaker 1: something that is true? Do you feel strongly about and

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Speaker 1: you kind of wish he was more that way, you know,

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Speaker 1: because it almost sounds like I'm.

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Speaker 3: Getting real deep here, guys.

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Speaker 1: I know, but it almost sounds like it's like that

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Speaker 1: underlying like problem.

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Speaker 4: You know. I think when we talked, you know, he

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Speaker 4: had taken some kind of same classes that I had taken,

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Speaker 4: and so I felt like he kind of does think

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Speaker 4: that way, but he's a lawyer now, so he kind

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Speaker 5: No, I don't know, maybe I did talk too much

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Speaker 3: Did you guys kiss or anything at the end of

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Speaker 3: the day?

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Speaker 5: Uh? Yes, Okay, there mind have been a little makeout

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Oh, lawyer likes the hippie.

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Speaker 5: Thousand, So yeah, went well.

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Speaker 1: Well, how did you leave it?

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Speaker 5: You know, he said he would see me soon like

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Speaker 5: he was like when.

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Speaker 4: We left, it was like we were going to talk

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Speaker 4: again and then nothing.

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Speaker 1: You just be busy. It's eight days. Maybe he's a

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Speaker 1: big case, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, did you know if he has a big

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Speaker 3: case coming up? I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't, but that could be a possibility.

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Speaker 5: I guess.

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Speaker 1: No, that's true. I dated a doctor for a little

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Speaker 1: while and he would go through like two weeks at

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Speaker 1: a time, so off. But that was because he was working.

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Speaker 1: Really so, I mean, if we're talking lawyer doctor, you

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Speaker 1: kind of put him up there like they just have

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Speaker 2: He's probably walking around a small town right now trying

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Speaker 2: to get statements for a huge class action suit, just

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Speaker 2: like Matthew McConaughey, because I'm picturing Matthew McConaughey.

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Speaker 1: Maybe probably not he VOS four.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, he's definitely very Well, we'll see if

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Speaker 2: we can help you out. Well, play a song, come

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Speaker 2: back and then call him and see if he'll tell

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Speaker 2: us he's ghosting you and maybe get you another date

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Speaker 2: if you still want one. Okay, okay, all right, please

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Speaker 2: I'll come back get your first date. Follow up next

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Speaker 2: Pam is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by

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Speaker 2: a dude named Jason, and he's a lawyer. Pam, I

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Speaker 2: hope for you that we can figure out why you're

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Speaker 2: getting ghosted and get you another date real quick before

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Speaker 2: we call him. I don't you refresh everybody's memory on

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Speaker 2: your date with Jason.

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Speaker 4: Well, it went really well. You know, we knew each

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Speaker 4: other in high school and he's aged really well. He

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Speaker 4: was hot. We went to a fancy restaurant. I was

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Speaker 4: kind of dressed down, kind of a hippie chick, so

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Speaker 4: a little bit different than a lawyer and I have

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Speaker 4: different views. So I don't know if that was it,

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Speaker 4: like if you know, he's too straight laced for me,

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Speaker 4: or that bothered him. I'm not sure. I don't know

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Speaker 4: what happened. But it went really well. We kissed at

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Speaker 4: the end of the night. It was good. He said

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Speaker 4: he would see me soon, and I haven't heard from him.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna call him right now. Okay, are

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Speaker 3: you ready?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Well, I might speak to Jason please, Jason, how are you?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing good?

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 3: My name is Jubel On a host a radio show,

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Speaker 3: called the Jebel Show.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Jason, my name is Nina. I'm on that show too.

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Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Victorian.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and I don't know if you've ever listened to

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Speaker 2: the show or not, doesn't really matter, but I wanted

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Speaker 2: to talk to you about something because we got an

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Speaker 2: email about you from one of our listeners.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've heard, I've heard of you before.

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Speaker 3: Sweet, that's awesome.

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Speaker 6: I'm a little apprehensive on what this could be, so

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Speaker 6: I guess tind me with it.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever heard a first date follow up before? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you know that's the segment where if somebody

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Speaker 2: goes out on a date and ghost somebody, the person

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Speaker 2: getting ghosted can email us to call the other person

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Speaker 2: and find out why.

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Speaker 3: Gotcha? Okay?

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Speaker 6: Following So I'm the ghost.

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Speaker 2: So you're the party. You're the party that has been ghosting.

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Speaker 2: Are you aware of the person that you've been ghosting?

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Speaker 3: Jason?

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Speaker 6: I mean it sounds like you don't question before.

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Speaker 2: Probably accurate. I lost that lawsuit big times anyway, Jason. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So do you know who you're ghosting?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I believe it would be someone by the name of Pam.

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Speaker 1: Are you intentionally ghosting Pam?

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Speaker 6: I get I. Yeah, I guess so, yeah, I guess

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Speaker 6: it's I guess it's intentional. You know, it's not it's

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Speaker 3: It preferred.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I I do like Pam. She's gorgeous, and

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Speaker 6: you know, we had a great first date, you know,

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Speaker 6: I you know I I've known her since you know,

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Speaker 6: just you know, she's just one of those people that

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Speaker 2: They just just so why ghost her then? If she

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Speaker 6: Guess just wrong place, you know, wrong time type of deal.

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Speaker 6: You know, she's with with her profession and mine. We

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Speaker 6: just we're just on two different paths, you know, like

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Speaker 6: I definitely respect that. My heart would I love that

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Speaker 6: Can't I can't do it with with my career unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: So like you can't help people because you're a lawyer,

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Speaker 6: It is, But you know, she's just on a different

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Speaker 3: I just I just can't is it the travel or

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Speaker 6: It's not the helping thing. I'm not you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: This time, Pam, when we talked to her, she was

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Speaker 2: From what you're describing to me, sounds like maybe you're

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Speaker 6: No, No, I don't you know. That's not the case

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Speaker 6: at all. It's got nothing to do with what she's doing,

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Speaker 1: I get, I can hear what you're saying, Jason, but

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Speaker 1: also makes me kind of curious though, like what type

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's a great question. I mean that's why

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Speaker 6: I single today. It would have to take two of

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Speaker 6: us to compromise. It would just not it couldn't be

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Speaker 6: just be sacrificing, you know what I do. Yeah, this time,

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Speaker 6: she's just got She's so nice and bubbly and and

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Speaker 6: of I just thought it would be less than you know,

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Speaker 6: any type of you know, hurt than not being able

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Speaker 6: to like keep up.

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Speaker 4: I guess.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks for being honest, man, I appreciate it. And

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Speaker 2: now I'll be honest with you. But Pam is on

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Speaker 2: the other line listing, and she's been listening this whole time,

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Speaker 2: and she wants to talk to you.

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Speaker 6: Oh wow, okay, Hi, Well, hey Pam.

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Speaker 4: I totally get what you're saying. Like me wanting to

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Speaker 4: perfect situation, but I think it's like something that you

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Speaker 4: would really love to do. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I I'm not against it whatsoever. I'm all

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure why I would. I don't know how

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Speaker 6: we would like fit with your ambitions and what I have,

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Speaker 6: my responsibilities and stuff. You know. That's what's just where

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Speaker 6: I was at. And I you know, I haven't sorry

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Speaker 6: if you know I heard it, but it's kind of

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Speaker 4: But I think we could make it work, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean, because you work a lot and I'll

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Speaker 4: be working a lot that we could, you know, find

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Speaker 6: I'm not opposed to giving it a try, but I

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Speaker 6: just want to warn you that I've tried before and

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Speaker 6: mean I would. I would love to make things work

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Speaker 6: with you. You know. I think you're amazing, your drop

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Speaker 6: if you're willing to, you know, put up with my

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Speaker 6: work and all that.

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Speaker 3: Jason, would you like to wat with Pam again on

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Speaker 3: another date? We'll pay for it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely? What yay?

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Speaker 5: Pam?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Okay, cool?

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Speaker 1: Well that's exciting. Just be careful of those expectations that

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Speaker 1: you guys put on each other because it's already been

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Speaker 1: set up to be real.

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Speaker 3: I know, but I believe.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Hey Jason, are you a freak? Where do you iron

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Speaker 1: your underwear?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 4: What do you?

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Speaker 6: What do you mean?

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Speaker 2: Well, before we called you, I was speculating on if

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Speaker 2: you were a freak or not, because you're a lawyer.

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Speaker 2: So you're button down all day in your suit and

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Speaker 2: then you get home and you just want to, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, put on some kind of leather outfit.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Oh God, well you know what, I'm gonna flee the ship?

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Speaker 1: Oh Damn this has got interesting.

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Speaker 3: Jules first follow up