Speaker 1: Welcome to pod meets Twirled, the Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: recap hosted by two guys who can't dance don't want
Speaker 1: to dance. Friend Danielle has joined the cast for season
Speaker 1: thirty four. We're going all in. We are wil Fredell
Speaker 1: and Ryder Strong aka the two dudes standing next to
Speaker 1: Topanga aka daniel Fishal's backup aka the dan Yettes. Hi,
Speaker 1: Hi rider, how are you good? I see you've opened
Speaker 1: your shirt this morning?
Speaker 2: Well, I feel that since we're going to be judging,
Speaker 2: we have to have one of us anyway has to
Speaker 2: be the really good looking one, right, and the other
Speaker 2: one needs to be you sure?
Speaker 3: So I figured that's the best way to go.
Speaker 1: Are you going to stand up every time after we
Speaker 1: cover a dance? Because you notice Bruno whenever he's judging,
Speaker 1: like just to take control.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you really have the shirt open? Went there's
Speaker 2: one button at the bottom. And I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 2: With the shape I'm in, it's holding on for dear life.
Speaker 1: All right. So we watched this show. We watched this
Speaker 1: episode twice, once live in person for our first Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars. Let's talk about that experience. It was
Speaker 1: it was amazing.
Speaker 2: Well, the first thing you get is an email inviting
Speaker 2: you to come. And the thing that shocked me was
Speaker 2: it's like they ask for formal attire, right, so it
Speaker 2: was dress cocktail dressed, and men they want in jackets
Speaker 2: and ties and the women in and Sue and I
Speaker 2: were looking at each other like, oh, I guess cocktail attire?
Speaker 1: Do you have cocktail attire? I love that though. That
Speaker 1: immediately put me in the right mindset. I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, we're not going to some sleazy Hollywood dance show.
Speaker 1: This is classy. They might kick you out if you
Speaker 1: don't show up with.
Speaker 3: A jacket exactly.
Speaker 1: I really appreciated that. I did too.
Speaker 3: I did not have a problem with that.
Speaker 2: There's nothing with the caron with occasionally dressing up for
Speaker 2: a Hollywood event.
Speaker 1: Except that it was ninety five degrees and we got
Speaker 1: stuck outside waiting for a while.
Speaker 2: We did, we did, and our spouses were not on
Speaker 2: the list to get in, so they just apparently seat
Speaker 2: four C was there was no plus one for there
Speaker 2: was no seat five C. So you they just waved
Speaker 2: you in with Alex right, yeah, yeah, okay, of course
Speaker 2: we had like we were we were too We waited
Speaker 2: in line for forty five minutes.
Speaker 1: We got there. We were supposed to be there at
Speaker 1: three thirty.
Speaker 2: We got there at like three forty, right, and so
Speaker 2: the yeah, we waited in line, and then they pulled
Speaker 2: us out of line to stand there, and then they
Speaker 2: had to so this is not a joke. The woman
Speaker 2: who was helping us, there's people in red shirts everywhere
Speaker 2: with the little microphones that are helping everybody. And she
Speaker 2: turned to me and she said, yes, what's your name?
Speaker 2: I said it's will for Dell. She said, oh okay,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it's right here. They had, like I've never
Speaker 2: seen before, everything done alphabetically by first name, which I've
Speaker 2: never seen done before. So there, I am no plus one.
Speaker 2: Susan's not on the list. So they say you have
Speaker 2: to step aside, and she grabs the microphone and she says, yes, Carol,
Speaker 2: I'm here with will Fredell will Fredell.
Speaker 3: Will Ford. And then she turns me.
Speaker 2: She goes, sorry, she's on the dance floor right now
Speaker 2: and death And I went, well, then, what why the microphone?
Speaker 1: She so yeah.
Speaker 3: So then they finally got word that we were allowed in.
Speaker 2: Justa's friend, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: The other guy from.
Speaker 3: The show just let him on, not to Panga.
Speaker 1: So we walked into this stage and having never seen
Speaker 1: the show, I didn't have this reaction. But I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are like, oh, it's smaller
Speaker 1: in real life. Yeah, but it's still felt pretty overwhelming
Speaker 1: to me. Just the sheer number of crew members and dancers,
Speaker 1: and it's beautiful. It's like deck to the nines. There's
Speaker 1: little like tables. We had great seats. We were amazing
Speaker 1: court side. What do you call it, Yeah, that would
Speaker 1: be called dance ball side.
Speaker 2: I mean three feet away. I mean the Flamenco sweat
Speaker 2: was hit us in the chest. It was that close
Speaker 2: to the action.
Speaker 1: Lance Bass was there, yeplan Danielle's X blocking us. So
Speaker 1: we were never seen by cameras, which is good. Well,
Speaker 1: I got I was on camera because I got.
Speaker 2: I got people sending me screenshots and of course all
Speaker 2: the screenshots are like mid clap, so it's me like
Speaker 2: and they're all brilliant. But yeah, no, the the other
Speaker 2: thing now, So my parents asked this because of course
Speaker 2: everybody's watching to support Danielle at this point.
Speaker 3: How many guests do you think were there?
Speaker 2: Like if the entire audience there from it was what
Speaker 2: multi tiered, two different tiers, So the bottom there's kind
Speaker 2: of stadium seating and then the top there's like a balcony.
Speaker 3: People can stand around three hundred.
Speaker 2: People, yeah, two or two or three hundred people, and
Speaker 2: so in not that big a space, right.
Speaker 1: Well, because you also have probably about two hundred crew
Speaker 1: members at least, it was an army. Got live. Television
Speaker 1: is such a different beast than we are used to.
Speaker 1: I mean when we would did our tapings of Boy
Speaker 1: Meets World, there was an energy, but but it was
Speaker 1: also kind of relaxing. You know, you're like, oh, cut
Speaker 1: and everybody's you know, talking, there's never a moment like
Speaker 1: you always have a big clock ticking down, somebody announcing
Speaker 1: we're back. In ninety seconds, we're back and five four applause.
Speaker 1: Yet so there's so.
Speaker 2: Much energy going into this and well I'm in between
Speaker 2: all that yelling, a DJ constantly playing music, so there's
Speaker 2: no quiet, there's no calm, there's no Yeah, I it
Speaker 2: made me so nervous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just really anxious. And then if I
Speaker 1: we saw Danielle like from a distance a couple of times,
Speaker 1: totally calm. Yeah, totally seems like in charge, looking beautiful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think the right person is doing dances with us.
Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 2: But I wanted to ask her because you know, we
Speaker 2: watched it live and then we watched it back on camera,
Speaker 2: and watching it back on camera and knowing Danielle.
Speaker 3: I could see how nervous she was really for the
Speaker 3: first time.
Speaker 2: Yet there was some There was some like obviously her
Speaker 2: mouth was dry, so there was some like lipsmacking things
Speaker 2: that you recognize in another criticizing Danielle.
Speaker 1: What we do it here, that's.
Speaker 3: Why we're here.
Speaker 2: We're here to just we're not even gonna talk about
Speaker 2: any of the other performers. It's just criticizing Danielle and
Speaker 2: her dancing. No, So it was no, But it's just
Speaker 2: because I've known her for thirty years, so she she
Speaker 2: can and fake it's not the right word.
Speaker 1: She's just a professional.
Speaker 2: So's she can entertain even it's like a good entertainer.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what you're feeling inside, you go out
Speaker 2: and you entertain. And that's Danielle. So I know Danielle
Speaker 2: well enough to know like, oh, she's nervous, But that
Speaker 2: was it.
Speaker 1: Nobody else would have picked it up. Yeah, she seemed
Speaker 1: totally cool to me. All right, So what did you
Speaker 1: know about Dancing with the Stars before going to the show.
Speaker 2: Probably as much as you. I knew it was a
Speaker 2: very popular television show on ABC.
Speaker 1: I think I knew it was on ABC.
Speaker 2: I knew that celebrities, athletes, and social media stars go on.
Speaker 2: I know a little bit of it because my other podcast,
Speaker 2: Magical Rewind, my co host was a big celebrity dancer,
Speaker 2: Subrin Bryan.
Speaker 3: She was also it was, I guess, a big.
Speaker 2: To do because no one thought she should be kicked
Speaker 2: off when she was kicked off, like, she only made
Speaker 2: it like six or seven weeks and that was a
Speaker 2: big thing. So I knew a little bit about it,
Speaker 2: but other than that, nothing I knew exactly what you did.
Speaker 2: I didn't know how they scored it. I didn't know
Speaker 2: any of the stuff they do. I still don't entirely
Speaker 2: know how they score it or what. Don't either how
Speaker 2: they help people off like that.
Speaker 1: I'm what the relationship between the judges numbers and the
Speaker 1: votes are, like, Yeah, they added up together, do the
Speaker 1: votes ultimately counting? The judges numbers are just there as
Speaker 1: like a guide. This is what the professionals think, but
Speaker 1: you can just it's so. Is it just a popularity contest?
Speaker 1: I don't know. How.
Speaker 2: Then the sub question asking this to add to the
Speaker 2: to some fuel to the fire. How are our critiques
Speaker 2: gonna gonna you know, match in with the judges critiques
Speaker 2: and the audience critiques, because now this is going to
Speaker 2: be the pre eminent judge.
Speaker 1: Major That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So so you can trust us as the new experts exactly.
Speaker 2: That's all it takes is a you know, a microphone
Speaker 2: and a smile.
Speaker 1: Now we're the experts too. So okay, so let's talk
Speaker 1: about your experience with dancing. Have you ever done ballroom dancing?
Speaker 1: Do you know anything about ballroom dance?
Speaker 2: I back in the day, when I was a kid,
Speaker 2: I think I took a ballroom dancing class. When I
Speaker 2: mean kid, like ten eleven years old. And then, strangely enough,
Speaker 2: one of the ways jokingly that Danielle and I would
Speaker 2: pass the time behind the set of Boymants World is
Speaker 2: I would grab her and we would fake tango or
Speaker 2: fake salsa or fake cha chaws.
Speaker 1: So you were her coach.
Speaker 2: So I essentially taught Danielle. He was essentially okay, okay,
Speaker 2: so correct. You know, he's the sense, right, and she
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I'm the hand, she's the clay,
Speaker 2: and I'm only as good as the clay that I have,
Speaker 2: and the clay that I had back in the nineties
Speaker 2: not that great, right. So I think with the some
Speaker 2: of the dancers she's working with now, we'll probably pull
Speaker 2: a little more out of her than I could. But
Speaker 2: that's only because I was working on such a higher
Speaker 2: level of dance at the time that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I think I've drunkenly danced at maybe two weddings. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then I was told about it later, So I
Speaker 2: don't even remember doing that. So not a dancer, never
Speaker 2: been a dancer. How about you, what's your level of dance, Expolis?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, nothing. I have been to the ballet
Speaker 1: twice in my life and loved it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, both times I went.
Speaker 1: And why don't I do this all the time, because
Speaker 1: it's gorgeous, it's amazing, and when it's you know, telling
Speaker 1: a story, especially like I just get so so. But
Speaker 1: I just never think about it. I never think like, oh,
Speaker 1: I should get tickets to the latest ballet, which I
Speaker 1: now I really want to start doing. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: the extent of my experience is having seen the movie
Speaker 1: Strictly Ballroom in the nineties. That's that's my knowledge of
Speaker 1: actual ballroom dancing. Yeah, all right, So let's get into
Speaker 1: the opening episode of season thirty four of Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars. Yes, opens with a big dance number done
Speaker 1: by these incredible dancers. We got to see it twice
Speaker 1: because they do a rehearsal first and then they do
Speaker 1: it again. I was amazed. Immediately thought, these people are incredible.
Speaker 1: Seems that there's so many of them. They're moving everywhere.
Speaker 1: I don't understand how they're not bumping into cameras, bumping
Speaker 1: into each other. It's insane.
Speaker 2: Well, I was just about to say, and I didn't
Speaker 2: know if we should save this to the end, but
Speaker 2: they're the best dancer of the night by far. Was
Speaker 2: the steady cam up steady cam operator. You never saw
Speaker 2: because I watched this back last night. You never watched
Speaker 2: catch a glimpse of this guy. Nope, you never see
Speaker 2: him on camera. He is up in the he's in
Speaker 2: the dances. He is there with this giant.
Speaker 1: Rig running around them in circles and doing all the
Speaker 1: amazing shots which I could see what was happening while
Speaker 1: we were there. I could see this guy working so
Speaker 1: hard carrying this heavy camera rig. But then to watch
Speaker 1: back the episode, it was just beautiful and you realize,
Speaker 1: like this guy or this team, you know, all these
Speaker 1: camera people are making the show so much better than
Speaker 1: it would be if it was just like a static
Speaker 1: you know, stage camera or whatever. It's incredible. It gives
Speaker 1: it so much energy, and I found my interpretations of
Speaker 1: the dances really changed. See I'm seeing them on camera
Speaker 1: is a very different experience and being in the room.
Speaker 2: It is so different seeing and so one of the
Speaker 2: things I noticed because when I was looking at the
Speaker 2: judges a lot of the time, obviously your eyes are
Speaker 2: over there to see what they know, and they're staring down.
Speaker 2: They're not looking either either standing up looking close or
Speaker 2: they're staring down. So they must have monitors right in
Speaker 2: front of them connected directly to the camera. That is
Speaker 2: that they're watching all the little stuff going on, because
Speaker 2: they clearly saw that in a different way.
Speaker 1: All right, So after the opening number, we get introduced
Speaker 1: to our first dance couple, Jordan Chiles and Ezra Sosa. Yes,
Speaker 1: I will state clearly now I did not know who
Speaker 1: anybody was. I don't know who any of the dancers
Speaker 1: are except Corey Feldman similar generational actor, and Andy Richter.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen Andy in anything other
Speaker 1: than movies, but I knew who he was, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So those are the two. Not quite the same way.
Speaker 2: I knew Jordan Chiles because I like the Olympics, and
Speaker 2: obviously I knew gymnastics is big in the Olympics. So yes,
Speaker 2: i'd heard her name, so I'd certainly seen her perform,
Speaker 2: But I'm kind of in the same boat with you.
Speaker 2: None of the dancers. Obviously, I didn't know a single
Speaker 2: dancer there.
Speaker 1: But so Jordan Chiles made headlines at the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four Olympics when the bronze medal she won on the
Speaker 1: floor exercise final in Paris was stripped by the Court
Speaker 1: of Arbitration for Sport following a challenge by Romania Crazy.
Speaker 1: She still holds two Olympic medals, a team goald from
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four Games and a team silver from
Speaker 1: the delayed twenty twenty Olympic Games in Tokyo. They danced
Speaker 1: the salsa to the song Break My Soul by Beyonce.
Speaker 1: I was pretty much blown away. I also I I've
Speaker 1: always wondered about the line between gymnastics and dancing, because well,
Speaker 1: that's what I want to talk about, please, Because you know,
Speaker 1: I've always watched floor routines and gymnastics and been like,
Speaker 1: they're dancing. They're just doing so much more athletic, you know, right,
Speaker 1: flips and whatnot. But to see this dance and to
Speaker 1: see some of that work integrated in and then to
Speaker 1: hear the judge's response, which was not super positive about
Speaker 1: all nos was was kind of jarring for me because
Speaker 1: I was like, but come on, she can do these things.
Speaker 3: Right, but that dancing.
Speaker 1: No. I guess that's the question, this question what this
Speaker 1: whole show is judging. I was like, yes, Bruno, Derek, guys,
Speaker 1: calm down. The woman just flew through the air and
Speaker 1: did all these crazy flips. Could you do that? But
Speaker 1: it doesn't.
Speaker 2: Matter no exactly If the show is called Magic with
Speaker 2: the Stars and I'm awesome at juggling, did I do
Speaker 2: magic or did I juggle? So that's the thing is,
Speaker 2: it's like I watched it back and again knowing nothing
Speaker 2: of Salza other than it's phenomenal on chips.
Speaker 1: You could.
Speaker 2: It was one of those things where I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: she's she's doing cool gymnastics, but is this also dancing?
Speaker 1: So that gets to the heart of like my conflict
Speaker 1: with the show is just not understanding enough about dance.
Speaker 1: But I'm getting better. I feel like, having watched it
Speaker 1: twice now, I'm like I could see what they were
Speaker 1: saying this time around. I was like, oh, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was just a little something was a little off. It
Speaker 1: was a little stiffer or more stilted than it should be.
Speaker 1: But I thought it was still so impressive. But I
Speaker 1: guess it gets into this question of like the difference
Speaker 1: between entertainment or just doing a show and doing a
Speaker 1: dance right correctly doing a dance specifically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not just some Yeah, I think we also
Speaker 2: have to throw in and this is a real thing.
Speaker 2: They were first on the first episode of a brand
Speaker 2: new season. It's like, you're there talk about nerve wracking.
Speaker 2: You're the first one to go. That's got to be really,
Speaker 2: really tough. So the question, and now I'm going to
Speaker 2: throw this question out at you every week, would you
Speaker 2: rather go first and get it over with or would
Speaker 2: you rather sit there and watch other teams? And then
Speaker 2: I think I'd rather go first to get it Yes,
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1: Sitting backstage for the whole time, just holding freaking out, yes,
Speaker 1: freaking the same, same. Okay, So they did their dance
Speaker 1: the judges. I noticed Bruno's standing to judge. I really
Speaker 1: like his energy. He's funny, he's great, he's great. But
Speaker 1: they both give amazing notes. Actually, like especially watching it
Speaker 1: back a second time, I was like, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: really good feedback. They are super positive. And then they
Speaker 1: said that they were going to be harsh because it's
Speaker 1: the first episode.
Speaker 2: So the number they want to give themselves somewhere to go, right, Yes,
Speaker 2: which made sense. Yeah, So they both only only gave
Speaker 2: this dance a five each, so it was a solid
Speaker 2: ten I want amaze.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no out of.
Speaker 2: Thirty technically, because because the thing was judge, we missed
Speaker 2: the third judge. The third judge, and apparently, from what
Speaker 2: everybody said is you and I have never seen the show,
Speaker 2: but apparently the third judge of the woman brings a
Speaker 2: whole different level to everything. It balances out the judges
Speaker 2: and it's really different way.
Speaker 3: I kind of them.
Speaker 1: He wanted a little on a third voice, because these
Speaker 1: guys were kind of in agreement. They have different energies,
Speaker 1: but they were kind of in agreement with each other,
Speaker 1: and they seemed very I mean, maybe this is everybody,
Speaker 1: but they seem very focused on like dance and timing
Speaker 1: and like less less blown away by somebody's ability to entertain,
Speaker 1: which is actually pretty great and kind of important.
Speaker 2: So yes, well it is. It's part you know, I
Speaker 2: was taught. I think this would this would fit. I
Speaker 2: was talking to you guys keep going back to magicians,
Speaker 2: but I was talking to a magician yesterday who said,
Speaker 2: it's so much easier to take an entertainer and teach
Speaker 2: them magic than it is to take a magician and
Speaker 2: teach them how to entertain.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So I wonder if it's easier to take an entertainer
Speaker 2: and teach them how to dance than take a dancer
Speaker 2: and teach them how to light up and entertain on
Speaker 2: the floor.
Speaker 1: So, because they tend to agree with you, but then
Speaker 1: after watching the show again, I don't know the ones
Speaker 1: who were professional dancers when they were younger really stood out.
Speaker 1: There's something about here. They have it in their bones
Speaker 1: in a way that even people like Danielle, who was amazing,
Speaker 1: they don't. She doesn't have it yet, you know, she
Speaker 1: doesn't have a certain dancer thing. So I was kind
Speaker 1: of I'm surprised by the fact that they allow ex
Speaker 1: professional dancers to even be one of the stars. It
Speaker 1: seems like kind of counter to the whole point of
Speaker 1: the show, which is these people are not pros. But right,
Speaker 1: I guess you know everybody, it's going to be interesting
Speaker 1: to watch this journey me too.
Speaker 2: Wait before we move on to our next pair, which
Speaker 2: we have to do quickly, do you agree with the
Speaker 2: judges scoring and would you have changed it in any way,
Speaker 2: shape or form.
Speaker 3: Would you also have given them the same amount.
Speaker 1: In the room, I was like, no, she deserved a
Speaker 1: six or seven, like at least for and but then
Speaker 1: watching it back, yeah, I think five was a good
Speaker 1: way to go if we're keeping the first episode like
Speaker 1: low to like give them room to improve. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: should know that, Like she can't get away with just that,
Speaker 1: you know, the athleticism, it's it's impressive.
Speaker 2: Integrate it better. Maybe agreed one hundred percent? All right,
Speaker 2: so we're both in agreement with the first ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, go all right. Then we had
Speaker 1: Dylan Efron and Daniella car Gootch. So Dylan Efron is
Speaker 1: Zac Efron's brother.
Speaker 3: He was in middle school middle school musical which nobody
Speaker 3: saw one.
Speaker 1: Season three of a show called Traders, which I've also
Speaker 1: never heard of, but apparently is a big deal.
Speaker 3: We keep saying that we're everyone's saying we're supposed to
Speaker 3: watch this.
Speaker 1: Okay. So I felt I felt for Dylan because in
Speaker 1: his pre show package he was talking about how he's
Speaker 1: really brave about doing adventurous stuff like outdoorsy stuff, but
Speaker 1: the idea of dancing scares the crap out of him,
Speaker 1: and that's why he's doing it. And I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: near my guy, Near my guy. And given that, I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed his dance because, you know, I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: you're doing it. You're you're you're out there, you're putting
Speaker 1: yourself out there. She was probably the best dancer of
Speaker 1: the night for me. She was incredible, incredible, Believe how
Speaker 1: good she was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh.
Speaker 1: Part of that is because I think she was working
Speaker 1: very hard to compensate, which I guess is kind of
Speaker 1: the balance, right, Like these people because she was just
Speaker 1: giving it everything and it was so impressive. For me.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, is this That's like the level
Speaker 1: that we can achieve. And actually I don't think anybody
Speaker 1: really beat her. For me, I thought Danielle Karagoch was
Speaker 1: like the most amazing dnswer of the night.
Speaker 3: She was great.
Speaker 2: They yet but you could tell that he again, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's nervous or whatever, but it was
Speaker 2: a stilted kind of he just seemed very stiff in
Speaker 2: the room.
Speaker 1: Though I enjoyed it a lot more watching it back again,
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, he didn't I know, but there's
Speaker 1: something about him on camera, like when he jumped on
Speaker 1: the table. In person, it was fantastic start and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, he's doing it. When I watched it
Speaker 1: on TV, I was like, uh, you're trying a little hard.
Speaker 1: But yep, so agree, it's an in person energy that
Speaker 1: was very different.
Speaker 3: It is very different.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I feel I fell for him too, and
Speaker 2: I agree with the judges score.
Speaker 1: And they were doing the Chacha shaw to a song
Speaker 1: called Milkshake, which just didn't feel completely integrated. There's something
Speaker 1: a little yeah, And the judges said that essentially and
Speaker 1: gave them both. They both gave fives. So at this point,
Speaker 1: I'm like, are we just going to give fives for
Speaker 1: the whole night?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 2: You know? What you could see because when the judges
Speaker 2: said your timing was way off, when I was watching
Speaker 2: it there, I was like, it didn't seem way off,
Speaker 2: And then watching it on a camera, I was like, no,
Speaker 2: the timing was off. He was doing one thing, she
Speaker 2: was doing another. So yeah it was the timing was off.
Speaker 1: Get out your metronome, ye, Dylan, all right, so we
Speaker 1: agree with the scores? Yes, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: Actually watching it back, I feel like they could have
Speaker 1: could have been a little lower, a little harsher, but
Speaker 1: I don't think they were.
Speaker 2: They're trying to do that. And then they did that
Speaker 2: for some people. I was like, oh, they are going
Speaker 2: lower than five. So yeah, it was yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: And next up we had Elaine Hendrix and Alan Burston.
Speaker 1: Elaine is not Ellen Burston. I had to look that up.
Speaker 1: Totally different person in person. Elaine is an actor. She
Speaker 1: was in The Parent Trap. She played Meredith Blake in that.
Speaker 1: She's also appeared on Dynasty, Sex and Drugs and Rock
Speaker 1: and Roll and Joan of Arcadia. I did not know
Speaker 1: who she was, but when I saw her face was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I've seen seen her around. They danced a
Speaker 1: chat chaw to chat cha cha to woman and I
Speaker 1: thought this was like really the first like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is a great dance. She knew what she was doing.
Speaker 1: She knew what she was doing. Turns out she was
Speaker 1: a dancer in the past, so that.
Speaker 3: God had to give it up because she got hit
Speaker 3: by a car.
Speaker 2: So she's got the chops and the story because I
Speaker 2: think this the personal story is also hugely important for
Speaker 2: because you're voting, so I mean, you have to keep
Speaker 2: in mind that this is for the country, and I
Speaker 2: think the story of a woman who wanted to be
Speaker 2: a dancer and then got hit by a car, had
Speaker 2: to give it up and then can still do that,
Speaker 2: I think she's going to go pretty far in this competition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she really, she did great. She was great so
Speaker 1: the judges. Actually, Derek said something about her performance. He
Speaker 1: said it has a Broadway quality, and I thought that's
Speaker 1: really accurate, you know, for it was an actor dancing
Speaker 1: and I could tell that she was more of an actor.
Speaker 1: But I liked that she was doing all these faces
Speaker 1: and like twiddling her fingers and then they did that
Speaker 1: one like handshake at one point where they did like
Speaker 1: the you know, the up down thing. Yes, it was great.
Speaker 1: So I was thoroughly entertained. And they the judges gave
Speaker 1: them a six and a six. I think I would
Speaker 1: have given them a seven.
Speaker 2: I agree on hundred percent. I agree on hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I thought she was great. It reminded me of like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's the person you cast in Chicago the movie or
Speaker 2: one of these kind of big dance number of movies,
Speaker 2: because she had the whole package. The outfit looked great,
Speaker 2: the start with the big hat, her partner was awesome.
Speaker 2: She was just so happy to be there. She was
Speaker 2: was there and now, Yes, so it was.
Speaker 1: She's a contender, She's up. Definitely. She had me.
Speaker 2: She was she was great, and I agree with you
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. I think they could have gone a
Speaker 2: little bit higher.
Speaker 1: With her score. So next up we had Whitney Levitt
Speaker 1: and Mark Ballas. Whitney is a social media influencer and
Speaker 1: entrepreneur who stars alongside the fellow Dancing with a Star
Speaker 1: season forecast member Jen Affleck on the secret lives of
Speaker 1: Mormon wives She is a mom of three. She has
Speaker 1: over two point five million followers on Tip Ta Geez.
Speaker 1: But she is also a dancer. I thought she was
Speaker 1: really good to the tango to the song Golden from
Speaker 1: K Pop Demon Hunters, which is just like the best
Speaker 1: song of the night, and it's like it was such
Speaker 1: a good selection because it's so of the moment, like
Speaker 1: this is the song my kid is listening to. Every
Speaker 1: everybody's kid is listening to. It's been super smart.
Speaker 2: Apparently her partner Mark Ballas is like, this is the
Speaker 2: guy who's won a whole bunch of times. He is
Speaker 2: the man when it comes to the dancers, apparently. And
Speaker 2: I guess he had left the show. By the way,
Speaker 2: producer Tara, if anything we're saying is completely and totally wrong,
Speaker 2: and you know the answer, please jump in with this stuff,
Speaker 2: because I but I think he like left the show
Speaker 2: under some kind of It wasn't controversy, but it was
Speaker 2: more like he just wanted to take off. And then
Speaker 2: he's recently come back, so I think this was kind
Speaker 2: of a big deal, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5: So he basically he's been on His first ever partner
Speaker 5: was Sabrina and Bryan. Oh yes, and that was his
Speaker 5: first season and he left he had an injury. I
Speaker 5: think it was I can't remember what kind of injury,
Speaker 5: but he had an injury. So he wasn't dancing regularly
Speaker 5: because it's very hard on your body. Yeah, but he
Speaker 5: came back and won with Charlie Dmilio, and he just
Speaker 5: he basically talked about that he's been healing and taking
Speaker 5: care of his body and he wanted to come back.
Speaker 5: So there was no controversy.
Speaker 1: It was just okay.
Speaker 2: But he was like, am I wrong that he was
Speaker 2: like the face of the male dancers for Dancing with
Speaker 2: the Stars for a while.
Speaker 3: He was like the guy right.
Speaker 5: It was always like him and Derek were on at
Speaker 5: the same time.
Speaker 3: Derek, right, who's the who's the judge?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 5: And then we have Max whose VAL's brother. There was
Speaker 5: a lot of those key players.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, all right, this this this one with Whitney
Speaker 1: and Mark was like, I was like, oh, it's going
Speaker 1: to keep getting better, Like this was, oh, the last
Speaker 1: one was the best of the night. Now it took
Speaker 1: it to even the next level. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: this is great. The judges gave him a seven and
Speaker 1: an eight in a weird controversial moment.
Speaker 3: Yes, apparently, yeah, you have to.
Speaker 2: It's one thing apparently, and they we heard the voice
Speaker 2: over the loudspeaker saying yet, which they cut out from
Speaker 2: the live show.
Speaker 3: You have to lock Oh no, they had it in
Speaker 3: the live show.
Speaker 2: You have to lock in your number first, So apparently
Speaker 2: the judges they have to literally hit a button to
Speaker 2: lock in their number and then pick up their paddle.
Speaker 2: He locked in an eight, but picked up a seven.
Speaker 2: So when they then cut later to Julianne Huff talking
Speaker 2: about it, she got a message in your euro pier
Speaker 2: saying no, they actually put an eight, so that was
Speaker 2: a fourteen and then went up to a fifteen because
Speaker 2: apparently he had locked in the eight button, so which.
Speaker 1: I think it deserved. I feel like pretty much overall
Speaker 1: this was the highest scoring dance of the night from
Speaker 1: the judges point of view, I think it was probably
Speaker 1: top top three.
Speaker 2: It was one of the top agreed one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was the best. But I also
Speaker 2: have the question for you, which we're going to have
Speaker 2: to talk about as the show progresses, especially, is the
Speaker 2: balance between stage props.
Speaker 3: And flashy stuff going on just dancing.
Speaker 1: Who makes these decisions I think they do okay, because
Speaker 1: there were some that had such high production value and
Speaker 1: then others like Danielle Fishel would just very straightforward and
Speaker 1: just think about the dance and in the room, I
Speaker 1: was like, well, we should be having all the fire,
Speaker 1: but then watching it back, I was like, no, there's
Speaker 1: some too being classy and yes, dude, and also you
Speaker 1: can grow.
Speaker 4: This game is strategy, yes, yes, And there's strategy involved
Speaker 4: in every decision that's made on this show. And Danielle
Speaker 4: and Pasha and all the dancers that you saw are
Speaker 4: making decisions based on what they want on the stage,
Speaker 4: what they want their creative to be. They all have
Speaker 4: their hands in it.
Speaker 1: Right, and they're telling a story in such an interesting
Speaker 1: way because like when I you know, I have watched
Speaker 1: American Idol for years. I've watched other competition shows where
Speaker 1: they spend more time with the contestants behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: where you the part of the storytelling is like getting
Speaker 1: to know them as people or like their families or whatever.
Speaker 1: There's very little of that in this show. We get
Speaker 1: the like one minute package to introduce each one of them,
Speaker 1: and I'm very curious to see how that happens every week.
Speaker 2: Like because it'll grow because as if people get kicked off,
Speaker 2: the package is going to get longer because then there's
Speaker 2: only six people. So I imagine the dance gets longer and
Speaker 2: the package goes longer. I would think, Yeah, So I
Speaker 2: guess what I'm saying is the dancing is.
Speaker 1: The storytelling, right, do you know what I mean? So
Speaker 1: watching these people now that we've like sort of taken
Speaker 1: notes and watching them progress is going to earn more appreciation,
Speaker 1: you know, So like, yes, that's going to be very
Speaker 1: interesting to see somebody who probably out of the gate
Speaker 1: was just a solid dancer and then maybe stays there
Speaker 1: over the course of the season, and the people who
Speaker 1: get better and better, and I feel like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be invested in those those stories without even
Speaker 1: knowing anything about you know, them as people or really
Speaker 1: seeing them like hanging out that much, or like I
Speaker 1: can tell you really cool, that's something I care about this, I.
Speaker 2: Agree, But watching watching it back and watching just the
Speaker 2: people that danced without all the pageantry on the stage,
Speaker 2: it made me think they have a place to go
Speaker 2: with this. They can grow from here. Whereas if you
Speaker 2: started at ten, I know, where do you go it's like.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: You killed it on the first night when nobody's going
Speaker 2: to be kicked off, But where you know, you got
Speaker 2: to ramp this up every week?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: How do you do that?
Speaker 4: So my question to you then is strategically about Dancing
Speaker 4: with the stars. If you're given the opportunity to have
Speaker 4: a car on your stage or something like that, and
Speaker 4: you can do it in week one, do you say
Speaker 4: no because week two and three you don't have it anymore,
Speaker 4: or you can't do that every week?
Speaker 3: I say no.
Speaker 2: I start exactly how Danielle started, which is two people
Speaker 2: dancing to great music with great costumes.
Speaker 4: And I will make I will make this is no
Speaker 4: inside Baseball because I would have noticed this just by
Speaker 4: watching the show. But Mark and Pasha and Val are
Speaker 4: three of the most seasoned veterans on the male side.
Speaker 4: Two of the three had no nothing on the stage,
Speaker 4: and the Val had Alex Earl the influencer, and he
Speaker 4: put a lot on the stage with fire and bring
Speaker 4: a fire, and I think she needs that because she
Speaker 4: is a very showy celebrity. But you notice the other too,
Speaker 4: strategically did not do it. So we'll see.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: I also have a question when it comes to the
Speaker 2: actual dance aspect of the show. So, if you're a
Speaker 2: male professional dancer on the show and Danielle Fischel is
Speaker 2: your partner, great, you come on, I'm going to teach
Speaker 2: you how to dance.
Speaker 3: I'm the man, so I lead. That's traditionally how it.
Speaker 2: Works when the woman is the professional dancer, is the
Speaker 2: woman leading or is the woman not.
Speaker 1: Only teaching the dance but teaching the man to lead.
Speaker 1: Does anybody know it's all of it? It's both. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think, I mean, you can see that
Speaker 1: they're working with what they've got right, But no, I
Speaker 1: think technically the man always has to lead, so that
Speaker 1: determines whose arm is, which arm and which direction.
Speaker 2: Yes, because it's like, not only do I have to
Speaker 2: teach you how to dance, but I have to teach
Speaker 2: you how to lead me.
Speaker 4: This is a whole strategy though, because it's all plays
Speaker 4: in it. Because I think it's easier for the men
Speaker 4: because dancing ballroom dancing has a focus on the female
Speaker 4: and you're mostly looking at the female in any case
Speaker 4: where he's the frame, so it's harder. You could argue
Speaker 4: both ways, it's easier for the male celebrity, or it's.
Speaker 1: More I don't know if I mean, I definitely think
Speaker 1: they're leading, but I'm not sure if leading necessarily means
Speaker 1: that it takes more skill, right, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: It's just a different skill.
Speaker 2: Did you also notice in most of the dances, which
Speaker 2: of course we do not see when we're on the stage,
Speaker 2: there are many a time, especially with the women, where
Speaker 2: the women professional dancers, where they are speaking to the
Speaker 2: dancers as the.
Speaker 3: Dance is going on.
Speaker 2: Like at one point for the Corey Felman dance, she
Speaker 2: says to him before he does his own thing, and
Speaker 2: I rewound it and rewound it and kept reading her lips.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure she says, do it. They love you,
Speaker 2: and so she's like pumping him up before. So I
Speaker 2: think the women are really trying to like, yeah, smile.
Speaker 2: You saw smile a lot because you're probably in your
Speaker 2: head trying to think of the dance steps.
Speaker 3: Yes, and so it's like smile.
Speaker 2: So the women, especially, we're really leading the man and
Speaker 2: with like okay, smart, you can do it. You're And
Speaker 2: it was amazing to watch that back. You could really
Speaker 2: see them talking to them while they're dancing.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: Next up was Baron Davis and Britt Stewart. Barons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a basketball player. Apparently. I really liked him his energy.
Speaker 1: They sang h are they They danced the too you
Speaker 1: Can't Touch This by mc ammer. So yeah, so this
Speaker 1: was the first like, ah, now I'm watching somebody who really, yeah,
Speaker 1: really is like stretching us. Yeah, exactly, you know, as
Speaker 1: much as as as Dylan Efron was sort of saying
Speaker 1: that he was uncomfortable, like you know, Baron was also
Speaker 1: dealing with an older body and like an injuries and
Speaker 1: everything between being an athlete, you know, and then being
Speaker 1: a dancer where it's like it's a whole different thing
Speaker 1: and you're using your body differently, And he was visibly uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: but he gave it as all. I thought it was
Speaker 1: fine and super entertaining.
Speaker 2: He was really there's a couple of times and he
Speaker 2: wasn't the only one where there you could really tell
Speaker 2: that somebody has no dance experience, probably does not how
Speaker 2: cannot move particularly gracefully.
Speaker 1: This would be me.
Speaker 2: And so it's one of those things where it's like
Speaker 2: you're essentially gonna move a little bit and hold.
Speaker 1: Your hands up and I'm going to dance around you exactly.
Speaker 1: And that's what Britt was like Daniella just killing it, yes,
Speaker 1: and fantastic, Hared He's kind of static while she's like
Speaker 1: spinning all around him and like kept giving him time
Speaker 1: to like do like little moves on his own. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, I don't know I would say no, no, no, yes, Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was just and again, you're right, this is where
Speaker 2: we're trying to balance the younger. You've got somebody like
Speaker 2: Jordan Childs who's also a an athlete like Baron Davis is,
Speaker 2: but somebody who's an athlete who is probably still in
Speaker 2: her twenties, who's been flipping all over the place as
Speaker 2: a gymnast, so it's like it's easier to cover maybe
Speaker 2: you don't have the dance aspect when you're doing splits
Speaker 2: in mid air and all this other stuff where he's
Speaker 2: probably like, I'm fifty something years old and my body's
Speaker 2: a little bit wrecked. So yeah, I'm going to do
Speaker 2: the running Man, which was kind of cool, And it's
Speaker 2: more that's more about the personality and the entertainment than
Speaker 2: anything else. Right now, we have to see if they
Speaker 2: progress actually as dancers.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm really hoping they do, because I did
Speaker 1: find it entertaining, it was fun.
Speaker 2: I did too, But he's also on my list of
Speaker 2: it's real possible that he's on the bubble to go. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And this is where we're going to see if it's
Speaker 2: about dancing or it's about a personality contest, because there's
Speaker 2: two or three. If it's just about dancing, where it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: they're clearly not dancers, you know.
Speaker 1: They both got fives from the judges, giving them a
Speaker 1: total score of ten, which seemed like a.
Speaker 3: Bit of a gift.
Speaker 2: Yes, and a bit of a gift since later people
Speaker 2: got a little bit lower that easily could have been lower,
Speaker 2: but I think his personality pushed it over the edge.
Speaker 1: Next up we had Alex Earl and Val Schmerkovski. Alex
Speaker 1: is an online influencer. Her effect has been dubbed the
Speaker 1: Alex Earl Effect, referring to her ability to make products
Speaker 1: go viral.
Speaker 2: She has an effect. She's big enough to have her
Speaker 2: own effect, I guess. So they danced to Britney Spears Circus.
Speaker 2: This was a This was the biggest set of the night.
Speaker 3: The big fire boobies behind you.
Speaker 1: You see the fire boobies circle, but they did. When
Speaker 1: you look at it straight on, it looked like two
Speaker 1: pairs of fire boobies. Really, I thought it was just
Speaker 1: one circle. What are you talking about? No, this was
Speaker 1: fire boobies.
Speaker 2: In the BacT, there's two things like spinning that looked
Speaker 2: like she started.
Speaker 1: On a little stand with a whip. It was. There
Speaker 1: was a lot going on, and frankly, I don't think
Speaker 1: they needed it. I think she I think she was
Speaker 1: a very good dancer. But going back to like what
Speaker 1: what what Elaine Hendrix brought to her performance, this was
Speaker 1: like the opposite of that. I felt like she was
Speaker 1: kind of stiff. Stiff. I agree, we're doing all the
Speaker 1: moves right, but you under dead inside. It was, yes,
Speaker 1: there's no soul like it was a little bit soulless,
Speaker 1: like it was technically very good, but there was kind
Speaker 1: of no soul behind it. And I feel like all
Speaker 1: the fireworks and fires and whips was all an attempt
Speaker 1: to kind of distract from that. So the judges gave
Speaker 1: them a seven and a six.
Speaker 3: Fire boobies do it every time, and.
Speaker 1: It's it's interesting because you know, I feel a little
Speaker 1: unfair because we're saying, you know, but by the criteria
Speaker 1: and of like was I was watching or going, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can dance, but I don't know if I want
Speaker 1: to keep watching you dance.
Speaker 3: Isn't that weird? It's not fully entertaining.
Speaker 2: And also I noticed this like fire Boobies is a
Speaker 2: perfect example, which I'm going to keep saying as often
Speaker 2: as I can.
Speaker 1: It's a perfect example of when we were watching.
Speaker 2: When I was watching it back on TV, I was
Speaker 2: watching all the stuff going on around her, all the
Speaker 2: fire in the flames and everything else, and then I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, that's right, concentrate on her dancing. It
Speaker 2: was secondary to everything else that was happening on stage.
Speaker 3: So I, yeah, it's there's a lot going on. There's
Speaker 3: a lot going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So you would you have kept the no?
Speaker 3: I would have They gave it one, gave us seven,
Speaker 3: and one gave us six.
Speaker 2: I would have probably done dual sixes or maybe even
Speaker 2: a five and a six. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think they're really reacting to the dancing more than
Speaker 1: the game. Yes, all right. Next up, we had Scott
Speaker 1: Hoyne and Riley Arnold. Uh. Scott is a Grammy and
Speaker 1: an Emmy Award winning musician from the group Pentatonics.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this on our Christmas playlist.
Speaker 2: Their Little drummer Boy brings the house down, my friend,
Speaker 2: their real life pitch perfect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to check them out. They've they've sold
Speaker 1: over thirteen million albums, thirty.
Speaker 3: Two billion albums.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: They did the.
Speaker 1: Tango to Abercadabra by Lady Gaga. You could tell in
Speaker 1: his package, his pre dance package that he was uncomfortable
Speaker 1: and kind of an awkward dancer, and he said this
Speaker 1: thing about being more vulnerable than singing, which I found
Speaker 1: really interesting. I was like, do I feel that way,
Speaker 1: because singing is also very vulnerable.
Speaker 2: Right, but not when you're He's in a group with
Speaker 2: like six other people doing harmony, so it's like you're
Speaker 2: there with your friends. Like when I go on stage
Speaker 2: by myself, I'm terrified. When I'm there with you and Danielle,
Speaker 2: I'm totally completely relaxed.
Speaker 1: Yeah true. So yeah, So what'd you think of the dance?
Speaker 2: I thought he was clunky and a bit stiff, and
Speaker 2: she was over compensating a little.
Speaker 3: Dred percent. She was trying hard.
Speaker 2: And I think one of the things we also never
Speaker 2: talk about and should never in the history of this show,
Speaker 2: by the way, we're halfway through our first episode, that
Speaker 2: the professional dancers have to be pretty, you know, pretty
Speaker 2: nervous as well. So I felt for the first time
Speaker 2: that the professional dancer was a little bit nervous and that,
Speaker 2: like you said, pushing it a little bit, and it
Speaker 2: was not my favorite dance of the night.
Speaker 1: What a hard job to be these dancers. I couldn't imagine.
Speaker 1: I mean, you no idea what you're dealing with, what
Speaker 1: you're going to get, and you have to work with
Speaker 1: what you've got, right, Yeah, So when you when when
Speaker 1: you know, Baron shows up and he's wanting to do
Speaker 1: something like hip hop related, but you're trying to do
Speaker 1: you know, like that's a challenge.
Speaker 3: Or I'm so sure Sue and I were talking about this.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that when they find out who their celebrity is,
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of them that are like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to win this year, Like there's.
Speaker 1: No because I think winning is a big deal for
Speaker 1: the dancers.
Speaker 2: So it's I think there's times where they get paired
Speaker 2: with somebody where they're like, Okay, well it'll be fun,
Speaker 2: they'll be nice, but there's no way.
Speaker 1: We're going to win anything this year. So, yeah, the
Speaker 1: judges gave them five and five.
Speaker 3: I thought it was fair.
Speaker 2: It could have gone a little lower, agreed, lower it agreed,
Speaker 2: but I thought it was fair, but lower.
Speaker 1: Next up, the one and only one. Let's gip this, Daniel,
Speaker 1: we should just skip this one. Let's just skip this one.
Speaker 1: Daniel Fisher and Pasha Pashkov. If you don't know who
Speaker 1: Danielle is, look her up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought these guys killed it. Yes, we're obviously biased,
Speaker 1: but for all the reasons we've already sort of talked about.
Speaker 1: It was stripped down, it was focused, it was delightful.
Speaker 1: I in the room, I liked it a lot. Seeing
Speaker 1: it back, I liked it even more. One hundred percent
Speaker 1: agree they had Uh so they did the tango too
Speaker 1: Stronger by Kelly Clarkson. They had for the first time
Speaker 1: I felt, and maybe like the truly the most of anybody,
Speaker 1: a real connection as dancers.
Speaker 2: It was well, did you also notice it started with
Speaker 2: the most Danielle thing you'll ever see in your life?
Speaker 1: What? Well?
Speaker 2: It started and the lights come up and she fixes
Speaker 2: his suit. Really, Yeah, it's the first thing she did
Speaker 2: was pat his shoulders down and fix his suit like
Speaker 2: the mom. And Danielle is always there tak care of
Speaker 2: her partner. And that's so the first thing. I was like,
Speaker 2: that's the most Danielle thing in the world.
Speaker 1: They felt so alive, they felt like they were having fun. Ye,
Speaker 1: it was like sexy and like it was still technically good,
Speaker 1: but it felt human. It felt like they were owning
Speaker 1: it like only these two people could. And that to
Speaker 1: me is like the greatest that's it.
Speaker 2: And they were just dancing. There's no fire, there's no thing.
Speaker 2: When she's grabbing the back of his head and looking
Speaker 2: him in the eye. You believed that almost more than
Speaker 2: you did anybody else who was dancing tonight, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: So the judges gave them six and six gave her
Speaker 1: a note about her shoulders, which I didn't notice, but
Speaker 1: I guess is a common note, and I took a
Speaker 1: only note ya, do your shoulders things okay?
Speaker 2: And they even said they commented on how they're going
Speaker 2: to say that all season long.
Speaker 1: Shoulders shoulder, shoulders, shoulder, that's a thing. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think Derek should have probably given them a seven.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why.
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 1: I thought they were absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 2: But I also thought, you know a word I love
Speaker 2: George Bush word strategery, thinking of strategicy. They have a
Speaker 2: lot of places to go now with where they can.
Speaker 2: I'd also like to take a very brief pause here,
Speaker 2: because I'm going to be introducing a little segment here
Speaker 2: every week that I am calling.
Speaker 1: Will his history of dance? Oh please?
Speaker 2: Now, yes, because you know I don't dance myself. But
Speaker 2: the other thing you might not know is all I
Speaker 2: do is read and study it out dancing.
Speaker 1: Really, so all of this is off the top of
Speaker 1: my head.
Speaker 3: I just want you to know.
Speaker 2: So every week I'm going to be doing a very
Speaker 2: very small and brief history of the dance that Danielle
Speaker 2: is doing, unless she doubles up, and then we'll pick
Speaker 2: on something. If she does the tango again, we'll do
Speaker 2: something else. But we're going to get everybody the brief
Speaker 2: history of dance. So, just off the top of my head,
Speaker 2: I wanted you to know that tango originated in the
Speaker 2: late nineteenth century in the Rio de la Plata region
Speaker 2: of Buenos Aires, Argentina and Montevideo, Uruguay.
Speaker 1: You're not reading this. This is this is I just
Speaker 1: figured you'd want to know this.
Speaker 2: I'm not reading this, reading it as a fusion of
Speaker 2: musical and dance traditions from European immigrants and African rhythms. Initially,
Speaker 2: this is interesting the expression of immigrants and outcasts in
Speaker 2: the slums and bordellos. Tango gained popularity by the turn
Speaker 2: of the twentieth century, spreading to the middle class, into
Speaker 2: the upper class, and then eventually becoming a global phenomenon,
Speaker 2: notably in Paris. Today, encomasses various styles, with Argentine tango
Speaker 2: remaining a cherist cultural tradition alongside ballroom and North American variations.
Speaker 1: Do you regularly just throw the word bordellos into I do?
Speaker 2: I was gonna say brothels, that's but you know I
Speaker 2: I thought everybody would want to know that again, just
Speaker 2: t oh baby, top of the head. I thought everybody
Speaker 2: should know what was going on. We're gonna do that
Speaker 2: every week because I have it all in the dome.
Speaker 1: So I'll just let you know, okay. Next up, Jen
Speaker 1: Affleck and Jan Ravnik. Jen is the other secret Mormon
Speaker 1: wive wife. Why wife? Are they all married to the
Speaker 1: same person?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: No, that's not. They're not polygamous.
Speaker 2: There's just and I think there is something comical about
Speaker 2: the fact that there's multiple Mormon wives.
Speaker 1: They're dancing, all right. They danced the salsa to Nueva
Speaker 1: Yold by Bad Bunny. I thought this was pretty good.
Speaker 3: I did too. I did too.
Speaker 2: I thought they were actually dancing this alsa. Yes, it
Speaker 2: wasn't a bunch of fluff.
Speaker 1: It was dancing this. In the pre show bagage, they
Speaker 1: announced that she had just had a baby eight weeks ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what isn't that crazy? Like we thought Danielle was taking
Speaker 1: on a lot doing this, Like seriously, She's has three kids,
Speaker 1: all under three, and she took this on. I thought
Speaker 1: she was incredible, amazing, not even just even if I
Speaker 1: hadn't known that, but knowing that it makes it even
Speaker 1: more incredible. Yeah, I could tell that it was a
Speaker 1: bigger production. Again, she was being tossed around a lot. Yes,
Speaker 1: but that kind of makes sense. She had a baby
Speaker 1: eight weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Ye. So.
Speaker 1: But the judges actually commented on the lifts, the amount
Speaker 1: of lifts, slowing down the flow, which I did feel.
Speaker 3: I got that as well.
Speaker 2: But I also thought there was something interesting about seeing
Speaker 2: what I imagine and again I could be wrong. A
Speaker 2: traditional salsa. The music there, the costumes, the pageantry. It
Speaker 2: seemed like this is what traditional salsa is. And again
Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but that's what I It seemed
Speaker 2: like to me, right, and it was as hugely entertaining.
Speaker 1: Well, the judges gave it six and six, so that's fair.
Speaker 3: I think that was fair.
Speaker 1: Really, I'm wondering if it was a little high. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: because if we're going with the first week, you know,
Speaker 1: challenge your self mentality. I think I think one of
Speaker 1: them could have probably given them a five. Interesting cut
Speaker 1: them on their toes, fair enough, all right? Next up
Speaker 1: Corey Feldman and Jenna Johnson. Cory. You know, I've actually
Speaker 1: never met Corey, we haven't. Is an interesting dude. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So he was a child star in the eighties from
Speaker 1: stand By Me, the Goonies, Lost Boys, Tene mun Ninja,
Speaker 1: Turtles in the nineties and he's been a musician, uh
Speaker 1: lately and is has this dance history, but it's all
Speaker 1: very Michael Jackson, straight up like Michael. So they danced
Speaker 1: the tango too. It's still rock and roll to me. Yeah, this,
Speaker 1: you know, this was one of those examples of somebody
Speaker 1: bringing a lot of personality, bringing a certain skill set,
Speaker 1: but is it the tango.
Speaker 2: Also, I was not a huge fan you're talking about personality.
Speaker 2: Wasn't a huge fan of some of his facial expressions.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a little much at times. Okay,
Speaker 2: I thought it was a little bit much. And yes,
Speaker 2: he's he talked about how he has scoliosis, so you know,
Speaker 2: I'm sure he can't there. Mobility is probably an issue
Speaker 2: with some of it, especially since every single dance ends
Speaker 2: with the woman bent over and the guy holding her
Speaker 2: for some reason, every single dance the whole night. But yeah,
Speaker 2: this was one of those kind of stiff, a little
Speaker 2: cringey ones for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the judges gave it a four and five. This
Speaker 1: was the first four of the night.
Speaker 3: I thought that was fair.
Speaker 1: You see. I didn't at the time when we were alive,
Speaker 1: because I was like, come on, the guy is doing
Speaker 1: everything he can. But when I watched it back, I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it's not. It's I want to see
Speaker 1: you actually pull off the dance moves, I agree, not
Speaker 1: just do your little Michael Jackson's stuff.
Speaker 2: Yes, so yeah, and she was talking to him the
Speaker 2: whole time. Yeah, she's talking to him the whole time. Yep.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: Then we had Lauren Hereggie and Brandon Armstrong. Lauren is
Speaker 1: a singer known for the girl group Fifth Harmony. This
Speaker 1: was incredible. I thought this was probably the best dance
Speaker 1: of the night. She's up there.
Speaker 3: It's not my favorite one, but she's certainly up there.
Speaker 1: As I mean, well, you're in the back for Irwin,
Speaker 1: aren't you.
Speaker 3: I could not how do you?
Speaker 1: How can you not be? I mean the guy brought
Speaker 1: the hose down at the end. It was so good.
Speaker 3: But there's a problem with that, which we'll get to.
Speaker 3: But yes, no, she was. She was great, uh all
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: I mean it was super entertaining and yeah she was
Speaker 2: personable and the yeah, great, great, totally great.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: The judges gave uh seven and six and it could
Speaker 1: have been double seven's. I think it could have been
Speaker 1: double sevens agreed, I agreed, yep, this could have been higher. Agreed,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. All right. Next up we had Andy
Speaker 1: Richter and Emma Slater. So this was another example of
Speaker 1: a non dancing man well known for comedy coming out
Speaker 1: and uh doing his best. I felt the age, which
Speaker 1: is a bummer he said he was worried about his
Speaker 1: legs holding up, and you could feel that tension to
Speaker 1: tell it, you could tell, and you know, he was
Speaker 1: so entertaining to watch. His faces were great. He had
Speaker 1: a you know, this sort of fun mugging quality, maybe
Speaker 1: we'll call it, but it totally worked for me. But
Speaker 1: I wanted to see him pushing his body a little
Speaker 1: bit farther, which I don't know if he can.
Speaker 3: He also lost it in the interview.
Speaker 2: Because they asked him why are you here, and the
Speaker 2: first thing he answered was a paycheck? And when you
Speaker 2: say that, even as a joke, you're going to turn
Speaker 2: off some people, right, So I feel like he kind
Speaker 2: of might have lost it in the well, he's on
Speaker 2: the bubble.
Speaker 1: To me, he's a comedian, right, so he's used to
Speaker 1: a sort of level of irony that probably doesn't feel
Speaker 1: appropriate to this show. This show feels very earnest. You know,
Speaker 1: this show is very much like beautiful people are doing
Speaker 1: beautiful things, and like it takes seriously Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: think if you try and like do that in any
Speaker 1: sort of ironic or mocking or you know, self even
Speaker 1: somewhat self deprecating way, I don't know if it works. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so either.
Speaker 2: Self deprecating is fine, but this is they want you
Speaker 2: to stand up there and say, I'm so happy to
Speaker 2: be here.
Speaker 3: I was, you know, this has been a struggle for me.
Speaker 3: That's what they're looking for.
Speaker 2: They're looking for that open, honest and so even kind
Speaker 2: of making light of like, well, I'm here for the paycheck,
Speaker 2: we thought.
Speaker 3: I think it's funny.
Speaker 2: We know where he's coming from because we live in
Speaker 2: kind of a world of comedy.
Speaker 1: But for the voters, I'm not sure that was the
Speaker 1: way to go.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: They ended up with a score of nine. Next up
Speaker 1: was Laria Baldwin and Gleb Suchenko. So, Alaria Baldwin is
Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin's wife, and she's a yoga instructor, podcaster, an author.
Speaker 1: They have seven kids. Seven kids? How many children people have? Yep?
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: And apparently was a dancer and had an injury and
Speaker 1: had to take take a long time off that came
Speaker 1: back with the Chacha chaw Let's get loud by j
Speaker 1: Lo And this was just wonderful. She was incredible And
Speaker 1: this is like clearly like the beginning of a return
Speaker 1: for her to something that she's really good.
Speaker 3: At Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 2: I think there's between her and Elaine. I think the
Speaker 2: two of them are probably going to go very far.
Speaker 2: And you can tell these are people with dance experience.
Speaker 1: I mean you can you know.
Speaker 2: It's the whole show is about race racing cars, and
Speaker 2: two of them used to race cars.
Speaker 1: You're going to be able to tell.
Speaker 2: So it's you know, they used to dance, and you
Speaker 2: can tell that they used to dance, and it was great.
Speaker 1: Can she win them back? If she's good enough and
Speaker 1: humble enough, can she? Her story is pretty great. You
Speaker 1: know that she's rediscovering her dance self is pretty That
Speaker 1: is a good story.
Speaker 2: It is, I would argue it's a good story if
Speaker 2: you don't know the backstory. And since I didn't really
Speaker 2: know the full backstory until my wife let me in
Speaker 2: on it, then it's kind of like, oh, so, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't Again, Jensen's right, it's going to be.
Speaker 1: It's going to be.
Speaker 2: If it's a popularity contest, you got to see what's
Speaker 2: going to happen, right right, So, but yes, the dance
Speaker 2: was wonderful and I thought they deserved the scores they got.
Speaker 1: Frankly, ut final Dance of the Night, Robert Irwin and
Speaker 1: Whitney Carson. Yeah. So Robert Irwin is the son of
Speaker 1: Steve Irwin and he's a global advocate for life and conservation.
Speaker 1: Sister one d one season twenty one. I can't believe
Speaker 1: how many repeat people in groups, Like everybody, everybody feels
Speaker 1: like they already have some relationship to the show, which
Speaker 1: I guess makes sense. They did the jive, which I
Speaker 1: don't even didn't even know was a type.
Speaker 3: I didn't either.
Speaker 1: I didn't to want to be wild by Steppenwolf, and Yeah,
Speaker 1: this just blew the house down. It was amazing, And
Speaker 1: watching it back, he was really good. He was great.
Speaker 1: He felt like he was her equal, Yeah, which I
Speaker 1: won't I don't think I can say about any of
Speaker 1: the other men.
Speaker 2: No, he also felt like he was so excited to
Speaker 2: be there, that he's wanted to do this for years
Speaker 2: and he just couldn't wait to get out there.
Speaker 1: He's also, what nineteen something like that, twenty one. He's
Speaker 1: so young, and you feel like, oh, there's a part
Speaker 1: of dancing that's just a young man's.
Speaker 3: Game, and directors just jumping off a car.
Speaker 1: No, your body has to be going for it, and
Speaker 1: he has not only the physical capability but also that energy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he can hurl it body around, you know, safely.
Speaker 2: So he's also did this last I mean he had
Speaker 2: to sit there all night and watch everybody else go
Speaker 2: and the nerves could have gotten to you, and he
Speaker 2: just everybody jumped to their feet when we were Where's
Speaker 2: he got to go from?
Speaker 3: That's the question.
Speaker 2: If you start out of this one goes to eleven,
Speaker 2: Well that's great, where do you.
Speaker 1: Go from there to eleven?
Speaker 3: But this goes to eleven? But yeah, it's this.
Speaker 2: He was amazing and incredible, and it seemed like this
Speaker 2: should have been a fourth or fifth week performance.
Speaker 4: I see.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's all part of an actual strategy
Speaker 1: where you blow it out and then you can sort
Speaker 1: of take it easy for a little while.
Speaker 3: Man, just show a dance or something next time.
Speaker 1: I mean, watching it back like, his rhythm is perfect,
Speaker 1: his physicality is really spot on, and like I said,
Speaker 1: he kept up with her to where I felt like
Speaker 1: I was watching two pros agree in the opening dance number.
Speaker 1: You have all the people that I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he fits in with this crew. So in the night,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, he won the night. For all the reasons,
Speaker 1: pageantry or not, he won the night. It was just
Speaker 1: it was really entertaining to watch.
Speaker 2: And somebody who has no dance background, knows nothing of dance,
Speaker 2: doesn't like dance, whatever you want to say, would watch
Speaker 2: that and be like.
Speaker 1: All right, that was entertaining.
Speaker 4: I will say, my wife is on the show he had.
Speaker 1: He's number one.
Speaker 4: I don't have any any doubts about that. I just
Speaker 4: wonder the position he's put himself in.
Speaker 1: That's exactly interesting because we want to see him grow.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Everybody else has room to grow,
Speaker 1: and part of the journey is going to be watching
Speaker 1: them tell that story through the dance.
Speaker 4: I mean, you, guys, can you not imagine? I can.
Speaker 4: I can give you an exact wording. A judge might say,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not sure you've captured what you had
Speaker 4: that first week. Yes, the exact sentence.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: But the thing is, if he does grow every week
Speaker 2: and that's where he started, no.
Speaker 1: One's going to catch you.
Speaker 3: Well, then he's Ben Vereen at the end exactly.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So Ben Karen, oh my god, come on, Gregory, heines
Speaker 2: Ben Gregory Hines Verst of that name, Rishtikov No dance.
Speaker 4: Have you heard of dance.
Speaker 2: Dance ESK Dance's man, Yeah, no, that was It was
Speaker 2: a way to break. It was a great way to
Speaker 2: end the show. I just wonder if he just started
Speaker 2: too heavy out of the game.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about who we expect to get
Speaker 1: kicked off and our top five.
Speaker 2: I think on the bubble, you're gonna have Feldman. It's
Speaker 2: going to be Corey Feldman's going to be on the bubble.
Speaker 2: I think you're going to have Andy Richter is going
Speaker 2: to be on the bubble. And hot take. I was
Speaker 2: talking about this with Sue last night after watching it again.
Speaker 2: Hot take, I think Jordan Chiles might be on the bubble.
Speaker 2: Those those are my three possible on the bubble. I
Speaker 2: think because of his personality, Baron Davis is going to
Speaker 2: get through. I think, really, I don't think so. I
Speaker 2: think people I think his personality is going to be
Speaker 2: enough to get him through.
Speaker 3: That's my guess.
Speaker 1: I feel like just picking you can't touch this also
Speaker 1: aged him up a little bit.
Speaker 2: But that I think you want to play into the
Speaker 2: fact that let people know, man, let's give him another
Speaker 2: time he's older.
Speaker 3: So yeah, if.
Speaker 1: You're a deeper cut, do you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like to do like the big mainstream hit from when
Speaker 1: you were a teenager or whenever it was cool to
Speaker 1: dance to this song ages you up and maybe it
Speaker 1: felt like you know.
Speaker 2: So then he's he's so who's going home? Those are
Speaker 2: my three on the bubble. Who do you think is
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I agree with you. I think Corey Feldman is
Speaker 1: going to stick around for another week.
Speaker 2: So so you think it's going to be Baron Davis
Speaker 2: and Andy Richter that are going to go Yeah, very
Speaker 2: very I think the women clearly did better than the men.
Speaker 2: I think even the quote unquote older women had dance experience,
Speaker 2: and you could tell they had dance experience, where the
Speaker 2: older men Andy richteror Baron Davis clearly did not.
Speaker 1: I think we're going to see some real shine from
Speaker 1: Dylan Efron as the show goes on, because I think
Speaker 1: so too. I think he's gonna now he got it
Speaker 1: out of a system, and I think he's going to
Speaker 1: be like, oh I can do this, I'm going to
Speaker 1: figure this out. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I think Lauren. I think Lauren has a lot
Speaker 3: of potential.
Speaker 2: I think both the Mormon wives have a lot of
Speaker 2: potentially very good I think Danielle.
Speaker 1: Has positioned herself perfectly perfect. That she displayed an ability
Speaker 1: to do the actual dance what it's supposed to do,
Speaker 1: and have personality and really draw you in to the
Speaker 1: dance itself. So she's I think she's a great position.
Speaker 1: I think she's a.
Speaker 2: Soft four strong five position right now, and I think
Speaker 2: that's kind of exactly where you want to be after
Speaker 2: the first week.
Speaker 4: Gives you to grow a fair number. That's a fair number.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's.
Speaker 4: Between soft three, probable four, you know, very low.
Speaker 3: Five yeah, high five Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, she's and that's again room to grow. So amazing,
Speaker 2: Uh she did. We couldn't have been prouder of her.
Speaker 2: It was because this it be really easy for us
Speaker 2: to sit here and do the show and be like,
Speaker 2: Danielle wasn't great, but she was.
Speaker 1: We don't have to lie.
Speaker 2: It's awesome because she killed it and she had such
Speaker 2: a strong connection with her partner. It showed she trusts.
Speaker 2: They trust each other, you can tell. And it was
Speaker 2: just it seemed like this was their fourth or fifth dance,
Speaker 2: not their first one.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: There is one more thing that I'd like to do
Speaker 2: rider before we end here, and it's another little segment
Speaker 2: I'm going to be doing every week called the Strong Incentive.
Speaker 2: And now what we're going to do is we're going
Speaker 2: to start low and then we're going to keep adding
Speaker 2: every week, and the point of this is to see
Speaker 2: what it would take to get you right or strong
Speaker 2: to be a contestant on Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 1: Oh god, I don't think there's a price.
Speaker 3: Well, we're going to find out.
Speaker 2: We're going to start this week with just a price,
Speaker 2: but then every week we're going to add on to
Speaker 2: that price, not just with money, but with other strong
Speaker 2: incentives to see if what it would take to get
Speaker 2: you on Dancing with the Stars. So we're going to
Speaker 2: start just very easily. Someone knocks on your door, they
Speaker 2: put down a briefcase. It's got five hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: in cash. Would you go on Dancing with the Stars?
Speaker 1: Hell?
Speaker 2: No, Okay, Well we will see you again next week
Speaker 2: and add to.
Speaker 1: The Yeah, that's just no, it's not because it's not money.
Speaker 1: It's it's like it would just be so painful.
Speaker 2: I mean, god, Well, we'll see it's gonna take and
Speaker 2: I take it to the next.
Speaker 1: Level of like will you're being selfish because that money
Speaker 1: could go to whatever you want, like charity if you want. Well,
Speaker 1: there you go.
Speaker 2: That's week one. It's gonna get harder. I can tell
Speaker 2: you I wouldn't go on the show for one reason
Speaker 2: because there is not a dancer in the world that
Speaker 2: could teach me how to dance.
Speaker 1: And that's the honest truth.
Speaker 2: But the strong incentive we are starting at five hundred
Speaker 2: kN cash and that is a hard no from Rider
Speaker 2: or Strong.
Speaker 1: Let's keep this up people, all right, that's it for
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