WEBVTT - Pod Meets Twirl'd: DWTS 3401 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:11.360 Welcome to pod meets Twirled, the Dancing with the Stars 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:14.680 recap hosted by two guys who can't dance don't want 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.560 to dance. Friend Danielle has joined the cast for season 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.240 thirty four. We're going all in. We are wil Fredell 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:24.560 and Ryder Strong aka the two dudes standing next to 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:30.360 Topanga aka daniel Fishal's backup aka the dan Yettes. Hi, 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:34.040 Hi rider, how are you good? I see you've opened 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:35.040 your shirt this morning? 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:38.080 Well, I feel that since we're going to be judging, 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:41.879 we have to have one of us anyway has to 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:44.760 be the really good looking one, right, and the other 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:47.600 one needs to be you sure? 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.239 So I figured that's the best way to go. 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:53.640 Are you going to stand up every time after we 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.960 cover a dance? Because you notice Bruno whenever he's judging, 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:00.680 like just to take control. 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.760 Oh wow, you really have the shirt open? Went there's 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.039 one button at the bottom. And I'll be honest with you. 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:08.360 With the shape I'm in, it's holding on for dear life. 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.120 All right. So we watched this show. We watched this 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:15.600 episode twice, once live in person for our first Dancing 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:19.120 with the Stars. Let's talk about that experience. It was 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:19.759 it was amazing. 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.120 Well, the first thing you get is an email inviting 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:24.120 you to come. And the thing that shocked me was 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:28.080 it's like they ask for formal attire, right, so it 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:31.480 was dress cocktail dressed, and men they want in jackets 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.720 and ties and the women in and Sue and I 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:37.000 were looking at each other like, oh, I guess cocktail attire? 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.040 Do you have cocktail attire? I love that though. That 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.240 immediately put me in the right mindset. I was like, 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:46.080 all right, we're not going to some sleazy Hollywood dance show. 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:50.560 This is classy. They might kick you out if you 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:51.280 don't show up with. 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:52.520 A jacket exactly. 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:54.920 I really appreciated that. I did too. 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:56.040 I did not have a problem with that. 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.360 There's nothing with the caron with occasionally dressing up for 0:01:58.360 --> 0:01:59.400 a Hollywood event. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.840 Except that it was ninety five degrees and we got 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:03.320 stuck outside waiting for a while. 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.360 We did, we did, and our spouses were not on 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.920 the list to get in, so they just apparently seat 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.120 four C was there was no plus one for there 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:17.440 was no seat five C. So you they just waved 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.280 you in with Alex right, yeah, yeah, okay, of course 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.480 we had like we were we were too We waited 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:24.600 in line for forty five minutes. 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:25.840 We got there. We were supposed to be there at 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:26.360 three thirty. 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.120 We got there at like three forty, right, and so 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.400 the yeah, we waited in line, and then they pulled 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:33.480 us out of line to stand there, and then they 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:35.880 had to so this is not a joke. The woman 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.360 who was helping us, there's people in red shirts everywhere 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.920 with the little microphones that are helping everybody. And she 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.000 turned to me and she said, yes, what's your name? 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:44.920 I said it's will for Dell. She said, oh okay, 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.720 oh yeah, it's right here. They had, like I've never 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:53.160 seen before, everything done alphabetically by first name, which I've 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:56.320 never seen done before. So there, I am no plus one. 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.040 Susan's not on the list. So they say you have 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.000 to step aside, and she grabs the microphone and she says, yes, Carol, 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:06.799 I'm here with will Fredell will Fredell. 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:09.800 Will Ford. And then she turns me. 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.000 She goes, sorry, she's on the dance floor right now 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:16.519 and death And I went, well, then, what why the microphone? 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:18.720 She so yeah. 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.080 So then they finally got word that we were allowed in. 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.160 Justa's friend, yeah, exactly. 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:25.400 The other guy from. 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.280 The show just let him on, not to Panga. 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:34.519 So we walked into this stage and having never seen 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.320 the show, I didn't have this reaction. But I feel 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.000 like a lot of people are like, oh, it's smaller 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.960 in real life. Yeah, but it's still felt pretty overwhelming 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:45.880 to me. Just the sheer number of crew members and dancers, 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.680 and it's beautiful. It's like deck to the nines. There's 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.760 little like tables. We had great seats. We were amazing 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.560 court side. What do you call it, Yeah, that would 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.360 be called dance ball side. 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.640 I mean three feet away. I mean the Flamenco sweat 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:01.560 was hit us in the chest. It was that close 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:02.120 to the action. 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:08.080 Lance Bass was there, yeplan Danielle's X blocking us. So 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.680 we were never seen by cameras, which is good. Well, 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:12.480 I got I was on camera because I got. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.280 I got people sending me screenshots and of course all 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.200 the screenshots are like mid clap, so it's me like 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.320 and they're all brilliant. But yeah, no, the the other 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.360 thing now, So my parents asked this because of course 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.359 everybody's watching to support Danielle at this point. 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.400 How many guests do you think were there? 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.000 Like if the entire audience there from it was what 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.560 multi tiered, two different tiers, So the bottom there's kind 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.360 of stadium seating and then the top there's like a balcony. 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.880 People can stand around three hundred. 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.600 People, yeah, two or two or three hundred people, and 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.560 so in not that big a space, right. 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.520 Well, because you also have probably about two hundred crew 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:53.080 members at least, it was an army. Got live. Television 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.320 is such a different beast than we are used to. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.320 I mean when we would did our tapings of Boy 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:00.359 Meets World, there was an energy, but but it was 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.200 also kind of relaxing. You know, you're like, oh, cut 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.680 and everybody's you know, talking, there's never a moment like 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:11.000 you always have a big clock ticking down, somebody announcing 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:15.160 we're back. In ninety seconds, we're back and five four applause. 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:16.800 Yet so there's so. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.600 Much energy going into this and well I'm in between 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:23.120 all that yelling, a DJ constantly playing music, so there's 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.600 no quiet, there's no calm, there's no Yeah, I it 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:27.919 made me so nervous. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.640 Yeah, I was just really anxious. And then if I 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.440 we saw Danielle like from a distance a couple of times, 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:38.919 totally calm. Yeah, totally seems like in charge, looking beautiful. Yeah, 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.320 so I think the right person is doing dances with us. 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:42.160 That's what I was gonna say. 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:43.719 But I wanted to ask her because you know, we 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:45.719 watched it live and then we watched it back on camera, 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.800 and watching it back on camera and knowing Danielle. 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.039 I could see how nervous she was really for the 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:51.400 first time. 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.800 Yet there was some There was some like obviously her 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.000 mouth was dry, so there was some like lipsmacking things 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.360 that you recognize in another criticizing Danielle. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.440 What we do it here, that's. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:01.880 Why we're here. 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:03.560 We're here to just we're not even gonna talk about 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.359 any of the other performers. It's just criticizing Danielle and 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.960 her dancing. No, So it was no, But it's just 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.719 because I've known her for thirty years, so she she 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:13.800 can and fake it's not the right word. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:14.799 She's just a professional. 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.720 So's she can entertain even it's like a good entertainer. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:20.880 It doesn't matter what you're feeling inside, you go out 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.159 and you entertain. And that's Danielle. So I know Danielle 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.880 well enough to know like, oh, she's nervous, But that 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:27.240 was it. 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.799 Nobody else would have picked it up. Yeah, she seemed 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:31.760 totally cool to me. All right, So what did you 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:35.960 know about Dancing with the Stars before going to the show. 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.200 Probably as much as you. I knew it was a 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.599 very popular television show on ABC. 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:42.000 I think I knew it was on ABC. 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:48.280 I knew that celebrities, athletes, and social media stars go on. 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:50.480 I know a little bit of it because my other podcast, 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.839 Magical Rewind, my co host was a big celebrity dancer, 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:54.719 Subrin Bryan. 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:56.720 She was also it was, I guess, a big. 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.599 To do because no one thought she should be kicked 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:02.040 off when she was kicked off, like, she only made 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:03.560 it like six or seven weeks and that was a 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.080 big thing. So I knew a little bit about it, 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.320 but other than that, nothing I knew exactly what you did. 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.280 I didn't know how they scored it. I didn't know 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.760 any of the stuff they do. I still don't entirely 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:15.960 know how they score it or what. Don't either how 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:17.400 they help people off like that. 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:22.000 I'm what the relationship between the judges numbers and the 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.120 votes are, like, Yeah, they added up together, do the 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.840 votes ultimately counting? The judges numbers are just there as 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.480 like a guide. This is what the professionals think, but 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.040 you can just it's so. Is it just a popularity contest? 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:34.960 I don't know. How. 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.560 Then the sub question asking this to add to the 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:42.640 to some fuel to the fire. How are our critiques 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:46.440 gonna gonna you know, match in with the judges critiques 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.200 and the audience critiques, because now this is going to 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.200 be the pre eminent judge. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:52.760 Major That's what I'm saying. 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.840 So so you can trust us as the new experts exactly. 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.080 That's all it takes is a you know, a microphone 0:07:59.160 --> 0:07:59.760 and a smile. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.160 Now we're the experts too. So okay, so let's talk 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:07.960 about your experience with dancing. Have you ever done ballroom dancing? 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:09.760 Do you know anything about ballroom dance? 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:13.000 I back in the day, when I was a kid, 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:14.720 I think I took a ballroom dancing class. When I 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:18.720 mean kid, like ten eleven years old. And then, strangely enough, 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.600 one of the ways jokingly that Danielle and I would 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.680 pass the time behind the set of Boymants World is 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:26.680 I would grab her and we would fake tango or 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.040 fake salsa or fake cha chaws. 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:29.960 So you were her coach. 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:33.120 So I essentially taught Danielle. He was essentially okay, okay, 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.760 so correct. You know, he's the sense, right, and she 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.840 I was gonna say, I'm the hand, she's the clay, 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:40.480 and I'm only as good as the clay that I have, 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.200 and the clay that I had back in the nineties 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.640 not that great, right. So I think with the some 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.760 of the dancers she's working with now, we'll probably pull 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.120 a little more out of her than I could. But 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.320 that's only because I was working on such a higher 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.560 level of dance at the time that. 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:54.360 Yeah. 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:58.520 No, I think I've drunkenly danced at maybe two weddings. Yeah, 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.600 and then I was told about it later, So I 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.720 don't even remember doing that. So not a dancer, never 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.560 been a dancer. How about you, what's your level of dance, Expolis? 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:10.920 Yeah, no, no, nothing. I have been to the ballet 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.880 twice in my life and loved it. 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:14.959 Yeah, both times I went. 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.280 And why don't I do this all the time, because 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.720 it's gorgeous, it's amazing, and when it's you know, telling 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.160 a story, especially like I just get so so. But 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:24.880 I just never think about it. I never think like, oh, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.400 I should get tickets to the latest ballet, which I 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.040 now I really want to start doing. All right, Well, 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.600 the extent of my experience is having seen the movie 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:36.280 Strictly Ballroom in the nineties. That's that's my knowledge of 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.040 actual ballroom dancing. Yeah, all right, So let's get into 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.400 the opening episode of season thirty four of Dancing with 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:59.199 the Stars. Yes, opens with a big dance number done 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.360 by these incredible dancers. We got to see it twice 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.440 because they do a rehearsal first and then they do 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:10.240 it again. I was amazed. Immediately thought, these people are incredible. 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.319 Seems that there's so many of them. They're moving everywhere. 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.400 I don't understand how they're not bumping into cameras, bumping 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.479 into each other. It's insane. 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:21.280 Well, I was just about to say, and I didn't 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:22.560 know if we should save this to the end, but 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:26.800 they're the best dancer of the night by far. Was 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.360 the steady cam up steady cam operator. You never saw 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.400 because I watched this back last night. You never watched 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:33.719 catch a glimpse of this guy. Nope, you never see 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:37.360 him on camera. He is up in the he's in 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.920 the dances. He is there with this giant. 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.839 Rig running around them in circles and doing all the 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.480 amazing shots which I could see what was happening while 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.200 we were there. I could see this guy working so 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.560 hard carrying this heavy camera rig. But then to watch 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:55.080 back the episode, it was just beautiful and you realize, 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.600 like this guy or this team, you know, all these 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:01.840 camera people are making the show so much better than 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:03.840 it would be if it was just like a static 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.080 you know, stage camera or whatever. It's incredible. It gives 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:10.560 it so much energy, and I found my interpretations of 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:14.400 the dances really changed. See I'm seeing them on camera 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:16.559 is a very different experience and being in the room. 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.240 It is so different seeing and so one of the 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.120 things I noticed because when I was looking at the 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.480 judges a lot of the time, obviously your eyes are 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.559 over there to see what they know, and they're staring down. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.000 They're not looking either either standing up looking close or 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.120 they're staring down. So they must have monitors right in 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.560 front of them connected directly to the camera. That is 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:37.839 that they're watching all the little stuff going on, because 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:39.680 they clearly saw that in a different way. 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.439 All right, So after the opening number, we get introduced 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:49.480 to our first dance couple, Jordan Chiles and Ezra Sosa. Yes, 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.040 I will state clearly now I did not know who 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.440 anybody was. I don't know who any of the dancers 0:11:55.480 --> 0:12:01.040 are except Corey Feldman similar generational actor, and Andy Richter. 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:05.560 I don't think I've ever seen Andy in anything other 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.559 than movies, but I knew who he was, right, yeah, yeah, 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.040 So those are the two. Not quite the same way. 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:13.640 I knew Jordan Chiles because I like the Olympics, and 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.160 obviously I knew gymnastics is big in the Olympics. So yes, 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.120 i'd heard her name, so I'd certainly seen her perform, 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:21.880 But I'm kind of in the same boat with you. 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:23.959 None of the dancers. Obviously, I didn't know a single 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:25.360 dancer there. 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.840 But so Jordan Chiles made headlines at the twenty twenty 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:29.800 four Olympics when the bronze medal she won on the 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.840 floor exercise final in Paris was stripped by the Court 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:36.360 of Arbitration for Sport following a challenge by Romania Crazy. 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.480 She still holds two Olympic medals, a team goald from 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.520 the twenty twenty four Games and a team silver from 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.800 the delayed twenty twenty Olympic Games in Tokyo. They danced 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.840 the salsa to the song Break My Soul by Beyonce. 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:54.320 I was pretty much blown away. I also I I've 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:58.559 always wondered about the line between gymnastics and dancing, because well, 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.680 that's what I want to talk about, please, Because you know, 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:03.360 I've always watched floor routines and gymnastics and been like, 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:07.839 they're dancing. They're just doing so much more athletic, you know, right, 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:12.480 flips and whatnot. But to see this dance and to 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.400 see some of that work integrated in and then to 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.760 hear the judge's response, which was not super positive about 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.000 all nos was was kind of jarring for me because 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.080 I was like, but come on, she can do these things. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:25.800 Right, but that dancing. 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.720 No. I guess that's the question, this question what this 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:32.120 whole show is judging. I was like, yes, Bruno, Derek, guys, 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.600 calm down. The woman just flew through the air and 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.360 did all these crazy flips. Could you do that? But 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:38.280 it doesn't. 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.840 Matter no exactly If the show is called Magic with 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.760 the Stars and I'm awesome at juggling, did I do 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.840 magic or did I juggle? So that's the thing is, 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.480 it's like I watched it back and again knowing nothing 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.680 of Salza other than it's phenomenal on chips. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:52.319 You could. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:55.760 It was one of those things where I was like, oh, 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:59.959 she's she's doing cool gymnastics, but is this also dancing? 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.600 So that gets to the heart of like my conflict 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.400 with the show is just not understanding enough about dance. 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:07.880 But I'm getting better. I feel like, having watched it 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:09.600 twice now, I'm like I could see what they were 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.200 saying this time around. I was like, oh, yeah, it 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.760 was just a little something was a little off. It 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.920 was a little stiffer or more stilted than it should be. 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.760 But I thought it was still so impressive. But I 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:23.800 guess it gets into this question of like the difference 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:28.080 between entertainment or just doing a show and doing a 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.760 dance right correctly doing a dance specifically. 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.480 Yeah, it's not just some Yeah, I think we also 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.680 have to throw in and this is a real thing. 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:40.880 They were first on the first episode of a brand 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:43.920 new season. It's like, you're there talk about nerve wracking. 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.920 You're the first one to go. That's got to be really, 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:48.760 really tough. So the question, and now I'm going to 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:50.960 throw this question out at you every week, would you 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.080 rather go first and get it over with or would 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.160 you rather sit there and watch other teams? And then 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.320 I think I'd rather go first to get it Yes, 0:14:58.400 --> 0:14:59.440 I agree, I agree. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.440 Sitting backstage for the whole time, just holding freaking out, yes, 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:05.960 freaking the same, same. Okay, So they did their dance 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:09.280 the judges. I noticed Bruno's standing to judge. I really 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.640 like his energy. He's funny, he's great, he's great. But 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:16.920 they both give amazing notes. Actually, like especially watching it 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:18.560 back a second time, I was like, yeah, this is 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.720 really good feedback. They are super positive. And then they 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:23.640 said that they were going to be harsh because it's 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:24.760 the first episode. 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:27.360 So the number they want to give themselves somewhere to go, right, Yes, 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:31.440 which made sense. Yeah, So they both only only gave 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:34.520 this dance a five each, so it was a solid 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.360 ten I want amaze. 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:37.640 Yeah, no out of. 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.640 Thirty technically, because because the thing was judge, we missed 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.640 the third judge. The third judge, and apparently, from what 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.440 everybody said is you and I have never seen the show, 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.000 but apparently the third judge of the woman brings a 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.680 whole different level to everything. It balances out the judges 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:52.000 and it's really different way. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:53.000 I kind of them. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.640 He wanted a little on a third voice, because these 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.160 guys were kind of in agreement. They have different energies, 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:00.000 but they were kind of in agreement with each other, 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:03.120 and they seemed very I mean, maybe this is everybody, 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.640 but they seem very focused on like dance and timing 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:10.600 and like less less blown away by somebody's ability to entertain, 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.560 which is actually pretty great and kind of important. 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.640 So yes, well it is. It's part you know, I 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.840 was taught. I think this would this would fit. I 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:19.640 was talking to you guys keep going back to magicians, 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.600 but I was talking to a magician yesterday who said, 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.640 it's so much easier to take an entertainer and teach 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.120 them magic than it is to take a magician and 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:29.320 teach them how to entertain. 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:30.200 Wow. 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.320 So I wonder if it's easier to take an entertainer 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.280 and teach them how to dance than take a dancer 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.480 and teach them how to light up and entertain on 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:37.960 the floor. 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.440 So, because they tend to agree with you, but then 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.920 after watching the show again, I don't know the ones 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:47.080 who were professional dancers when they were younger really stood out. 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.720 There's something about here. They have it in their bones 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:54.600 in a way that even people like Danielle, who was amazing, 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:56.800 they don't. She doesn't have it yet, you know, she 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.840 doesn't have a certain dancer thing. So I was kind 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:02.880 of I'm surprised by the fact that they allow ex 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.560 professional dancers to even be one of the stars. It 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.639 seems like kind of counter to the whole point of 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:10.400 the show, which is these people are not pros. But right, 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.159 I guess you know everybody, it's going to be interesting 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:14.640 to watch this journey me too. 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.400 Wait before we move on to our next pair, which 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.919 we have to do quickly, do you agree with the 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:21.920 judges scoring and would you have changed it in any way, 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:22.360 shape or form. 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:24.640 Would you also have given them the same amount. 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.280 In the room, I was like, no, she deserved a 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.560 six or seven, like at least for and but then 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.960 watching it back, yeah, I think five was a good 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.359 way to go if we're keeping the first episode like 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.600 low to like give them room to improve. Yeah, she 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.000 should know that, Like she can't get away with just that, 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.080 you know, the athleticism, it's it's impressive. 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.320 Integrate it better. Maybe agreed one hundred percent? All right, 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.160 so we're both in agreement with the first ten. 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.760 Yeah, yeah, all right, go all right. Then we had 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:55.080 Dylan Efron and Daniella car Gootch. So Dylan Efron is 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:56.200 Zac Efron's brother. 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.600 He was in middle school middle school musical which nobody 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:01.560 saw one. 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.480 Season three of a show called Traders, which I've also 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.080 never heard of, but apparently is a big deal. 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:08.200 We keep saying that we're everyone's saying we're supposed to 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:08.560 watch this. 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:15.159 Okay. So I felt I felt for Dylan because in 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.960 his pre show package he was talking about how he's 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:22.199 really brave about doing adventurous stuff like outdoorsy stuff, but 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.680 the idea of dancing scares the crap out of him, 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.600 and that's why he's doing it. And I was like, yes, 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:30.640 near my guy, Near my guy. And given that, I 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.000 really enjoyed his dance because, you know, I was like, dude, 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.600