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Speaker 1: This one Bill's Live presented by Calledlida Health.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody, Hope you're having a wonderful Thursday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: I'm Maddi glab and I'm joined by.

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Speaker 2: CBS Sports NFL Draft analyst Chris Trepasso for the next

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Speaker 2: two hours. Chris filling in for Steve Tasker. I'm filling

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Speaker 2: in for Chris Brown. It's the off season where we

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Speaker 2: all take some time off, so Chris, happy to have

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Speaker 2: you in here today.

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Speaker 4: It's great to be back. I mean, it is the

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Speaker 4: off season, but there are ot as going on right

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Speaker 4: behind us on one of the Bills practice field. So football,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say it's close, but it's starting to

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Speaker 4: ramp up. Obviously in June they'll get some time off

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Speaker 4: as very well deserved. But to just hear whistles and

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Speaker 4: players on the field was kind of exciting for what's

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Speaker 4: coming in the next couple months.

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Speaker 2: Yep, we can hear the music bumping out at practice.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday they had to be inside because of rain. Today

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Speaker 2: looks like they got to get outside, which is always

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Speaker 2: nice with the weather this time of the year. Lots

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Speaker 2: of rain in the forecast, so nice that the weather

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Speaker 2: hasn't been too terrible today, So just thinking about OTAs.

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Speaker 3: And the players out on the field.

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Speaker 2: We've got our second week of OTA practices going on

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Speaker 2: right now. They'll have another week next week and then

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Speaker 2: mandatory mini camp soon after that. And Chris, as we

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Speaker 2: reflect on this roster, we haven't had you in here

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Speaker 2: for a few weeks, and the dust has settled from

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Speaker 2: the NFL Draft, and we have an idea of what

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Speaker 2: this team is going to look like in the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five season. Now, there could be some moves that

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Speaker 2: we don't know that are going to happen ahead of

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Speaker 2: training camp or during training camp, but we've got a

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Speaker 3: Roster right now.

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Speaker 2: So since we haven't Haji in here in a few weeks,

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Speaker 2: I just want to know what are your thoughts right

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Speaker 2: now as you reflect on what the team looks like

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 4: Well, I have two kind of bigger statements. I think,

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Speaker 4: first off mission accomplished for what the Bills needed to

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Speaker 4: do this offseason. I thought going in and after the

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Speaker 4: AFC title game, in the aftermath of that, the morning after,

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Speaker 4: the weeks after it was this team needs not just

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Speaker 4: more players on defense, they need youth. Then they need

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Speaker 4: more explosiveness and just pure athleticism. On the defensive side,

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Speaker 4: we saw the Bills last season score a record number

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Speaker 4: of points thirty touchdowns on the ground, thirty through the air.

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Speaker 4: The defense, ultimately, and the depth of the defense is

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Speaker 4: ultimately what let this team down. The Bills spent five

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Speaker 4: of their first six picks on the defensive side of

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Speaker 4: the ball, so I think from that perspective, Brandon Bean

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Speaker 4: and company did a great job addressing those biggest needs

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Speaker 4: to get over the hump, to get to a Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl and to eventually win a Super Bowl. From that,

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Speaker 4: I think this roster right now, and you mentioned there

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Speaker 4: could be a Leonard Floyd type signing in June, we

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Speaker 4: never know. I think this is the best Bill's roster overall,

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Speaker 4: top to bottom, the top tier talent on offense, top

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Speaker 4: tier top tier talent on defense, and then the depth

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Speaker 4: that we know is so important on each side. The

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Speaker 4: best Bills roster since twenty twenty, and that team broke

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Speaker 4: out when thirteen and three got all the way to

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Speaker 4: the AFC title Game. I just think that even though

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Speaker 4: you will be relying on some more rookies than normal

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Speaker 4: on the defensive side, with that big defensive heavy draft class.

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Speaker 4: The offensive line is intact. You still have Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: in his prime. There's some uncertainty with James Cook, but

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Speaker 4: chances are he's going to be playing this season. You

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Speaker 4: have the same stable of a running back group if

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Speaker 4: he's back as last year. That was so good. So

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Speaker 4: diverse complimented each other very well. I think the receiver

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Speaker 4: group got better. We talked a lot about the receiver group.

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Speaker 4: There's been a lot of talk about it this offseason,

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Speaker 4: but I think that's improved. You have Dalton Kincaid coming

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Speaker 4: even thirty yet, and you have Kean Coleman entering here too,

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Speaker 4: and so much more speed and explosiveness on the defensive side.

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Speaker 4: Along with those players that are established that have been here,

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Speaker 4: Tredevius White comes back, Dan Jackson comes back. Those are

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Speaker 4: the floor maybe in December and January, where if there

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Speaker 4: is an injury, you know what you're getting at specific positions.

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Speaker 4: So I think Brandon Bean, the coaching staff, the front office,

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Speaker 4: pro scouting, college scouting has done the best job that

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Speaker 2: This team and the scouting department, they do such a

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Speaker 2: great job at reloading at the areas they need to

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Speaker 2: identifying and sure it may be obvious to see, Okay,

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Speaker 2: here's a hole on the roster, but it's not always

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Speaker 2: easy to replace that hole. If somebody's walking out of

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Speaker 2: easy to fill that hole because of restraints with your

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Speaker 2: salary cap, because of where you pick in the NFL draft,

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Speaker 2: because of negotiations with players. It's not the easiest thing

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Speaker 2: to just say, okay, we need more defensive linemen, so

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Speaker 2: let's get defensive linemen in here. There's definitely more that

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Speaker 2: goes to it, and Joey Bosa was a big addition

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Speaker 2: this offseason to the defensive line, as well as Larry

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Speaker 2: Ogunjobi and Michael Hoyt, and of course Hoyt and Oguin

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Speaker 2: Joby are going to miss those first six weeks, but

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Speaker 2: to have those guys in the mix as the Bills

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Speaker 2: realize who they are as a team, the identity starts

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Speaker 2: to take shape and take form. I think after six

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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott, our head coach, said that he anticipates Bosa

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Speaker 2: will be back for training camp, so that's always good news.

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Speaker 2: But I would totally agree with you. I think every

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Speaker 2: area they needed to add.

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Speaker 3: Too in the offseason they have done so.

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Speaker 2: And there are areas on the roster currently where there

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Speaker 2: are going to be some big time position battles and

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Speaker 2: people may think of those battles as question marks or

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Speaker 2: maybe they're still a hole here because we don't have

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Speaker 2: a sure starter at whether it's CB two or whether

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Speaker 2: it's the other safety position. Those things are going to

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Speaker 4: And I think if you're the Bills, it would be

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Speaker 4: easy to get complacent. They've won five straight division titles,

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Speaker 4: They've been to two of the last five AFC title games.

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Speaker 4: They've beaten the Chiefs four straight years in the regular season.

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Speaker 4: They've been super close in the playoffs in three of

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Speaker 4: a bounce there. The Bills haven't done that. And to

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Speaker 4: your point, I like that. It's not, Hey, we need

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Speaker 4: first round and be done with it. No, they bring

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Speaker 4: in Tradavius White and Dan Jackson. They bring in Derek

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Speaker 4: him just because he wasn't a big ticket item in

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Speaker 4: free agency, neither were Micah Hyde or Jordan Poyer. And

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Speaker 4: It's that Brandon Bean has done it with numbers too,

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Speaker 4: we need Maxwell Harrison to play nine hundred snaps as

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Speaker 4: or we're totally lost at cornerback too. He's added multiple

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Speaker 4: training camp, preseason, early season battles where you ultimately will

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Speaker 4: get the best player on the field on Sundays.

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Speaker 2: And speaking about the depth on the roster, I think

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Speaker 2: the scouting department the coaching staff has done a great

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Speaker 2: job of when they need depth and when they need somebody,

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Speaker 2: a player that's going to be reliable. We've seen time

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Speaker 2: and time again where the scouting department goes out and

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Speaker 2: brings a player back to the Bills who understands the system,

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Speaker 2: who understands the defense. Dane Jackson back on this roster,

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Speaker 2: Tredevious White back on this roster. It'll be an interesting

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Speaker 2: also have guys who understand the system have had success

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Speaker 2: So the fact that they are using new players to say, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, we're also going to cushion this position group

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Speaker 4: And that's what's so fascinating about a lot of these

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Speaker 4: position battles that we're going to see at Saint John

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Speaker 4: the Bills know what they're getting with Tredavius White. Is

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Speaker 4: he the fastest, twitchiest, most sudden cornerback in the league

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Speaker 4: at his age after his injuries? Probably not. Dame Jackson

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Speaker 4: never was that guy. Does that ultimately went out the

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Speaker 4: familiarity with the system, the time tested production with Bobby

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Speaker 4: Babbage and Sean McDermott, or this infusion of young fresh legs, athleticism, twitchiness, explosion,

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Speaker 4: even Daiquon Hardy, who we haven't mentioned he's probably in

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Speaker 4: huge athlete coming out of Ohio State. Dorian Strong wasn't

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Speaker 4: I'm going to kind of be looking at it, maybe

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Speaker 4: through my scouting lens of the players that don't really

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Speaker 4: tick the box athletically or with their size or their length,

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Speaker 4: but are really cerebral, smart players that have produced in

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Speaker 4: company on the defensive side can do with a Maxwell

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Speaker 4: nine inch vertical. It'll be really interesting to see if

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Speaker 4: one side wins out in way more than others, or

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Speaker 4: it's truly a blend of who ultimately the style of

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Speaker 2: And that's what OTA's mini camp and training camp are

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Speaker 2: all about, is figuring out who who are our best

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Speaker 2: options at each position? Is there a position battle that

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Speaker 2: you are looking forward to seeing how it unfolds.

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Speaker 4: Probably cornerback two, and it's obvious or it's easy, I

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Speaker 4: should say to pencil in Maxwell Harriston. And but then again,

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Speaker 4: just three years ago, we were all writing in kyer

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Speaker 4: this he's gonna probably be a safety from Villanova, Christian Benford,

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Speaker 4: and then week one, Christian Benford is starting opposite Tradevius White.

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Speaker 4: So for as much as teams and coaches like to say, hey,

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Speaker 4: we don't care about draft position, usually they try to

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Speaker 4: That position battle is not only just important for this

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Speaker 2: let's go into Around the NFL presented by Clyde Health,

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Speaker 2: the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, and people

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Speaker 2: are talking about the Bills and that cornerback two spot.

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Speaker 2: It's been a hot topic this week, so NFL dot

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Speaker 3: In year one.

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Speaker 2: I believe there were eleven different rookies that were chosen.

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Speaker 2: ranked pretty importantly here with cornerback Max Harriston. Here's what

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Speaker 2: Tidia has to say about it. There is no personnel

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Speaker 4: That's perfect. That is absolutely spot on from Jeffrey, and

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Speaker 4: I totally agree with him that if Christian Benford doesn't

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Speaker 4: But in general, the Bills had a lack of ability

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Speaker 4: So that was so apparent throughout the season for Buffalo

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Speaker 4: with him, and again Maxwell Harrison, is that not just

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Speaker 2: That's something I noticed in OTAs on Tuesday when media

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Speaker 2: That's something that this roster has missed out on in

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Speaker 2: Ever had this with Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean And

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Speaker 2: of these games. Maybe this gives Buffalo a better chance

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, when you think about it, the fact

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Speaker 4: And it's happened exactly when the league has gone haywire

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Speaker 2: ESPN NFL analyst Mina Kimes also chimed into this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Podcast episode was released this week and the topic was

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Speaker 2: So something to watch in terms of not just the

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Speaker 2: You don't have to put multiple people on one wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree on everything that both of those

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Speaker 4: need that they had the pass rush matters, and Mina

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think back to start at twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 4: the playoffs. Offensive coordinators can say, all right, you guys

433
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Speaker 4: are going to slide this way on at Oliver on

434
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Speaker 4: the inside. We either have Quinton Jefferson or Jordan Phillips,

435
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Speaker 4: who was injured a lot. They didn't really have to

436
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Speaker 4: worry about that other player, TJ. Sanders, with his athleticism,

437
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 4: his pass rush moves and his first step quickness, that

438
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Speaker 4: can't be the case anymore. So that's why I think

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Speaker 4: it's so important for this Bill's team. That's been as

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Speaker 4: much of a clear cut weakness as cornerback two in

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Speaker 4: the playoffs, the lack of another true pass rusher next

442
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Speaker 4: at Oliver during a time in the NFL, and not

443
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Speaker 4: only receivers have made a lot of money and have

444
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Speaker 4: become even more valuable, but those interior pass rushers that

445
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Speaker 4: you should just be run pluggers, couldn't really do much.

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Speaker 4: A lot of teams have three and four really good ones.

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Speaker 4: I think the Bills have two solid to maybe potentially

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Speaker 4: Pro Bowl or all Pro types in at Oliver and TJ. Sanders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like you said, those two things work hand

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Speaker 2: in hand. And having a pass rush, having corners who

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Speaker 2: who are capable of doing what they need to do

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Speaker 2: on the outside and lining up against wide receivers. Moving

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Speaker 2: on to a team that Buffalo new knows really well,

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Speaker 2: it's the Miami Dolphins and Dolphins cornerback Jalen Ramsey took

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Speaker 2: to x last night to share some feelings as he

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Speaker 2: awaits a trade. Ramsey said, for the record, by the way,

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Speaker 2: I've loved every city I've played in and the fans

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Speaker 2: who supported the anger is very misplaced at times, but

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Speaker 2: sometimes valid too laughing face emoji, but the real ones

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Speaker 2: know the intention always solid.

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Speaker 3: A new chapter awaits.

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Speaker 2: So Miami head coach Mike McDaniel was asked about the

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Speaker 2: Ramsey situation yesterday and his reply was zero has changed.

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Speaker 2: McDaniel said he's interested in the players he's coaching on

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Speaker 2: the field today. So here's a reminder of the timing

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Speaker 2: of all of this and when it might go down,

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Speaker 2: because this, I think plays an important.

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Speaker 5: Role in all of this.

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Speaker 2: The cornerback is due twenty five million dollars in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five, and if he is traded before June first,

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins must pay up with a big cap hit.

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Speaker 2: If he's traded after that, June one, date, the number

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Speaker 2: drops to seven million dollars.

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Speaker 4: So this is happening Monday, Yeah right, I mean it

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Speaker 4: seems like it.

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Speaker 2: Ramsey is not at OTA's The Dolphins are moving on

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Speaker 2: with the cornerbacks that are currently on their roster. I

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Speaker 2: know Ramsey is on the roster, but doesn't seem to

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Speaker 2: be a part of the team this upcoming season. Other

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Speaker 2: Dolphins news, wide receiver Tyreek Hill also spoke to media

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Speaker 2: yesterday and had this to say about his actions at

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Speaker 2: the end of the season and this offseason. Hill said

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Speaker 2: he doesn't feel he deserves to be a team captain

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Speaker 2: again after actions in a rough end to last season

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Speaker 2: and this offseason. His main focus is proving to his

486
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Speaker 2: teammates they can trust him and wants.

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Speaker 3: To prove it overall.

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Speaker 2: According to NFL Network reporter Cam Wolf, so that's your

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Speaker 2: news out of Miami.

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Speaker 3: Not the best news.

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Speaker 4: No it's not. And I'm looking at the Dolphins roster

492
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Speaker 4: and for as much as I applauded what they did,

493
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Speaker 4: they finally made a shift in philosophy in the draft.

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Speaker 4: They draft Kenneth Grant, They draft Jordan Phillips, no relation

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Speaker 4: to former Bills defensive tackle Jordan Phillips in the fifth round,

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Speaker 4: another defensive tackle. They drafted a guard in the second round.

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Speaker 4: They finally went power over for ness. But if they

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Speaker 4: trade Jalen Ramsey, I'm going to read you the Dolphins

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Speaker 4: cornerback room. Cater Kohu, who's actually a pretty good nickel storm,

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Speaker 4: Duck cam Smith, the second rounder in twenty twenty three,

501
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Speaker 4: who I actually liked a lot but hasn't really panned

502
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Speaker 4: out yet, Already Burns, who's a journeyman, former first rounder,

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Speaker 4: Patrick McMorris, John Saunders, Ethan Bonner, b J Adams. Do

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Speaker 4: you know any of these names? I don't know any

505
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Speaker 4: of these names. So if we just spent fifteen minutes

506
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Speaker 4: talking about Bill's cornerback two, it's so vital, Which maybe

507
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Speaker 4: it's like the Bills are on a different echelon in

508
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Speaker 4: terms of like legitimately close to the super Bowl. The

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Speaker 4: Dolphins weren't there last season. But for as much as

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Speaker 4: I think the Dolphins will be more physical and will

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Speaker 4: be better in the trenches, it seems like a trade

512
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Speaker 4: of Jalen Ramsey is imminent. If they do that trade,

513
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Speaker 4: who I think is still a borderline elite level corner

514
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Speaker 4: that cornerback room might be the worst in the NFL. Really,

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Speaker 4: I mean, look at I mean, do you disagree? No,

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Speaker 4: I mean I guess I'm not comparing it to thirty

517
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Speaker 4: one other rosters right now. I mean I guess thirty

518
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Speaker 4: others because I would say the Bills is distinctly better.

519
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Speaker 4: But that could be a huge question mark that maybe

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Speaker 4: leads to the Dolphins playing in a lot of shootouts,

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Speaker 4: because for as much as they've improved up front, the

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Speaker 4: defensive backfield will not be nearly as dominant as they

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Speaker 4: could be when they had Xavian Howard and Byron Jones

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Speaker 4: and certainly Jalen Ramsey.

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Speaker 3: They still have questions up front too.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Chubb and Jalen Phillips come back from.

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Speaker 2: Jaalen Phillips coming back from injury. You can't expect those

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Speaker 2: two players to be stars as soon as they walk

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Speaker 2: back onto the field after Hilly's injury that Jalen Phillips suffered.

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Speaker 2: So that'll be an interesting storyline for the Dolphins at

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Speaker 2: the start of the season, as well as their offensive line,

532
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Speaker 2: which has always been kind of a question mark, rotating

533
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Speaker 2: revolving door of people who have been in and out

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Speaker 2: with injuries. So that's the new was out of Miami.

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Speaker 2: The twenty twenty five National Football Power Index ratings are out,

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Speaker 2: and the Bills are one of the best, according to

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Speaker 2: analytics writer Seth Walder. So, the FBI is a football

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Speaker 2: ratings and projection model in the preseason. These predictive ratings

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Speaker 2: are primarily based on win totals from the betting market

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Speaker 2: in conjunction with each team's schedules, along with factors such

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Speaker 2: as the difference between a team's starting and backup quarterback.

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Speaker 2: These ratings are used to simulate the season thousands of times,

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Speaker 2: with results forming projections. So that's a lot of words

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Speaker 2: and verbiage there, but basically it spits out, Okay, these

545
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Speaker 2: are your best teams on these things. So these ratings

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Speaker 2: will evolve as they learn more about each team based

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00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: on its performances on offense, defense, as special teams as

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Speaker 2: we go about the season. So here are the top

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Speaker 2: five preseason. The Eagles come in at one, the Chiefs

550
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Speaker 2: are two, the Ravens are three, the Lions are four,

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Speaker 2: and the Bills are five and plus four point five.

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Speaker 2: So the top five's most common theme is their offensive strength.

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00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: I think we can look at all these five teams

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Speaker 2: and agree these are offensive powerhouses. The article says offense

555
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Speaker 2: is more stable from season to season, so teams with

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Speaker 2: the best past quarterback and offensive production are more likely

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Speaker 2: to repeat that success the following year. The ratings also

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00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: say the Bills have a ten percent chance to win

559
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, which ranks third among all other NFL teams.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles and the Chiefs are ahead of them, and

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Speaker 2: if you look at the AFC East, Buffalo is the

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Speaker 2: only team with a positive FPI rating in their division

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Speaker 2: and would be considered more than a four point favorite

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Speaker 2: over each of the other three on a neutral field.

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Speaker 2: The Bills have a sixty five percent chance to win

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Speaker 2: their division, the highest of any team in the NFL

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Speaker 2: by a hefty margin.

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot to take from this, which I

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Speaker 4: know we got to get to break soon. But that

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Speaker 4: last point is really interesting because we've heard so much

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Speaker 4: about the Patriots that that they've gotten better year or

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Speaker 4: two of Drake May. I think while that's true, and

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Speaker 4: I do think the Patriots will be a tougher team

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Speaker 4: if Drake May stays healthy this year. They have Mike

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Speaker 4: Vrabel at head coach, who's proven himself to be a

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Speaker 4: playoff caliber head coach. It makes you think of don't

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Speaker 4: just look at the AFC East, the AFC West is

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Speaker 4: way better. All the other divisions have also, Like there's

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Speaker 4: not maybe outside of the NFC South, which ironically the

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Speaker 4: Bills play this year, a lot of the divisions are

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Speaker 4: really hotly contested AFC North, so NFC East obviously has

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Speaker 4: gotten significantly better in a hurry. So for as much

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Speaker 4: as if you're one of those Bills fans that's like,

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Speaker 4: oh jeez, Patriots, I'm kind of nervous about them, I'm

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Speaker 4: nervous about the Dolphins scoring a lot of points. The

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Speaker 4: Bills still, according to this model ESPN's analytics model, the

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Speaker 4: best chance of any team to win their division, which

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Speaker 4: a lot of what was in there makes sense that

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Speaker 4: if you have a really good quarterback, then that goes

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Speaker 4: a long way. And the Bills are returning so many players,

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Speaker 4: and we talked about a lot in this segment have

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Speaker 4: added important pieces to that roster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the offense looks so similar to last season because

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Speaker 2: they had so much success. The defense a lot of

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Speaker 2: new faces, but that's because they had things to work

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Speaker 2: on coming off of a twenty twenty four season that.

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Speaker 3: They still saw a lot of success.

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Speaker 2: Our topic for you today, who is your Bills under

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Speaker 2: the Radar candidate to make a major impact this season?

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Speaker 2: We want to know your thoughts, so please chime in

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Speaker 2: by tweeting at us or give us a call at

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Speaker 2: eighth three five point fifty. We are answering your phone

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Speaker 2: calls next here on One Bill's Live. We're presented by

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Speaker 2: Kalida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Our topic today who is your bills under the Radar

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Speaker 2: candidate to make a major impact this season? We want

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Speaker 2: to know what your answers are, so please give us

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Speaker 2: a call at eight O three oh five fifty or

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Speaker 2: tweet at us. We're gonna go to the phone lines

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Speaker 2: to Butch on the East shot east side.

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Speaker 3: Who's joining the conversation right now?

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Speaker 5: What's up Butch?

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Speaker 6: Hello, my people, the Queen of w GR, the Queen

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Speaker 6: of MSG and and one of the top guys that

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Speaker 6: come off the bench man to make us win, Chris Drapp.

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Speaker 6: It's the honor, it's a pleasure to talk to you.

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Speaker 6: I love MSG, I love WG.

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Speaker 7: I to the fans who listen and watch What's from

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Speaker 7: the East side.

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Speaker 6: Love dearly. I'm gonna get right to it. I got

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Speaker 6: a couple of things. I'mnna be very quick. I thank

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Speaker 6: you checking my call. Now, we always use that term

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Speaker 6: iron shoppers iron but also we always look at the

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Speaker 6: players with that. We always say, well, you know, bring

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Speaker 6: more talent in have competition in iron shop design. I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna flip the script. I'm looking at coaches iron shop design.

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Speaker 6: I expect Bobby Babbage. I expect office coordinator. Either get

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Speaker 6: with people friends of yours, that it's some other teams

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Speaker 6: or retired coaches or anybody else, get in the film

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Speaker 6: room and add to what your expertise has already is

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Speaker 6: sharpen your game up. Brandon, being in this front office

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Speaker 6: and this drafts that have brought enough personnel, we have

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Speaker 6: some of the best person that we have a friend

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Speaker 6: and deals. I'm holding the coaches that come, defensive coordinators,

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Speaker 6: office coordinators to actually put this soup and this game plan.

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Speaker 6: This meal's this three course meal that we got to

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Speaker 6: win to get a championship. Here, I'm holding I'm accountable

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Speaker 6: for that, and I'm gonna put that to the side,

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Speaker 6: and I'm gonna answer your question on your topic. The

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Speaker 6: person that people are sleeping on. And I hear people

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Speaker 6: like you know, Maddie, they'll disrespect you doing Brownie was

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Speaker 6: speaking about it the other day.

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Speaker 7: Y'all talk about Matt maclonald coming back, him and him

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Speaker 7: and not my guy. But now he ain't forty three

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Speaker 7: no more. But anyway, playing linebacker combination together. I really

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Speaker 7: believe the star he's able to have a star of

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Speaker 7: a team.

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Speaker 6: I really do. Dorian Williams is about to take off.

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Speaker 6: I really believe Dorian Williams is about to be one

651
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Speaker 6: of the key players on the defense. I really believe

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Speaker 6: Solomon is going to be one of the key players,

653
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Speaker 6: young kid on the defense on the defensive line, along

654
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Speaker 6: with all the other players we have. But I just

655
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Speaker 6: want the coaches, the coaches you have the off season

656
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Speaker 6: now to actually shop in your game plans up so

657
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Speaker 6: when these players do get the training camp, don't come

658
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Speaker 6: in with the vanilla offense. Don't come with the vanilla defense.

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Speaker 6: You have enough time, and you have enough talent, and

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Speaker 6: you have enough information that you should be able to

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Speaker 6: be put together top game plans offensively and deepestly. Even

662
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Speaker 6: though Brownie and Maddie, you know what I'm saying, and

663
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Speaker 6: Brownie was speaking about even when he saw the speed, well,

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Speaker 6: this is the first time we have a special teams

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Speaker 6: coordinator has experienced and and then Brownie was expecting big

666
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Speaker 6: things from the special teams. I'm expecting the same thing

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Speaker 6: from the coaches on the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 6: I love you, Queen, Chris s Trapp, I love you,

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Speaker 6: guys man, thanks for taking Michael, Thanks for the call.

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Speaker 4: But great game caller by Yeah Yeah. Needs to be

671
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Speaker 4: in the One Bills Live Hall of Fame of callers

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Speaker 4: for sure.

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Speaker 3: Great point about the coaches.

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Speaker 2: You know, one thing that Buffalo has going for them

675
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: is the fact that Joe Brady and Bobby Babbage are

676
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Speaker 2: too young coordinator the.

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Speaker 4: First full years coordinators last year.

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Speaker 2: When you're a young coordinator, you are young and hungry.

679
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: You are so hungry to get after it, to get

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Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl, to colle left as many wins

681
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Speaker 2: as possible. To improve from season to season. Brady and

682
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Speaker 2: Babbitts were in the building all the time. Let me

683
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Speaker 2: tell you they're in the building all the time in

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Speaker 2: the off season.

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Speaker 8: Two.

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Speaker 2: I see them walking the hallways at hours that would be.

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Speaker 3: In season hours. I would say, But they're still around.

688
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: They're doing their homework, studying everything they can about the

689
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: team from last year and trying to figure out, how

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Speaker 2: can we make this better in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we were talking about off air from their previous

692
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Speaker 4: segment that the Lions are a team that really good

693
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Speaker 4: on paper but lost their offensive and defensive coordinators. I

694
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Speaker 4: think what Butch brings up in what sparked in my

695
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 4: mind is, and I just said it to you, the

696
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Speaker 4: Bills had two first year coordinators, young guys in their

697
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 4: mid thirties that I think we almost watching the Bills

698
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 4: took it for granted because the offense was so good.

699
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 4: The defense like led the league in turnovers. Although there

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Speaker 4: were some rough patches at times defensively, the Bill's defense

701
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Speaker 4: was still one of the best in the league. These

702
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Speaker 4: guys are now entering year two only, so not only

703
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Speaker 4: are they not having to replace new system all of

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Speaker 4: that young like you mentioned, hungry coordinators entering year two,

705
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Speaker 4: and that now they have a full season to say, Hey,

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Speaker 4: maybe this play didn't work this concept, Maybe we should

707
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 4: have blitzed heer, maybe we should have backed off here.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to seeing the step that those coaches

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Speaker 4: make in just what is their only their second full

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Speaker 4: season as coordinators, which I think is the point that

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Speaker 4: Butch was trying to bring up. And I mean, it

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Speaker 4: was music to my ears with Dorian Williams. You know,

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Speaker 4: I think two years ago when I was on this show,

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Speaker 4: I was like, my favorite pick in the draft two

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Speaker 4: years ago was Dorian Williams. I absolutely loved him out

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Speaker 4: of Tulane. My draft algorithm resin that I have. He

717
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Speaker 4: was near the top of the linebacker position in that class.

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Speaker 4: It was either him or Jack Campbell. Jack Campbell went

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Speaker 4: in the first round to the Lions. Ironically, Bill's got

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Speaker 4: Dorian Williams in the third round. And I think maybe

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Speaker 4: it's because he's got long hair. I always go back

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Speaker 4: to the heat places with his hair on fire. You

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00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 4: can see it out of his helmet flying up in

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Speaker 4: the air when he's running after the football. But he's chiseled.

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Speaker 4: He I think is getting a better grasp of the

726
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Speaker 4: playbook and maybe that was something that slowed him down

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Speaker 4: and why he didn't ultimately play so much as a rookie.

728
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Speaker 4: But last year, learning the system the exact same scheme

729
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 4: helped him a lot. He has sub four or five speed,

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Speaker 4: He's a pretty reliable tackler, and he's good in coverage,

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Speaker 4: so I wouldn't be shocked even though it is kind

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Speaker 4: of a logjam at the linebacker spot. If again, kind

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Speaker 4: of tying these two themes together inside the same system.

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Speaker 4: If like Butch said, Dorian Williams is ultimately someone that

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Speaker 4: truly breaks out.

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Speaker 3: In year three, I agree.

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Speaker 2: Williams led the team last year in total tackles with

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Speaker 2: one fourteen. He told me a light came on for

739
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: him last year in terms of being in Buffalo's defensive system.

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Speaker 2: The game slowed down for him, which allowed Williams to

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Speaker 2: play a lot quicker, a lot faster, a lot more powerful.

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Speaker 2: And with that, when you get a player who has

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Speaker 2: a pretty good second season, I think you're going to

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Speaker 2: find a way to get him on the field in

745
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Speaker 2: different types of packages, even if he's not going to

746
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Speaker 2: be the main starter and take over Matt Mulano's spot.

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Speaker 2: I think you're gonna find ways where Dorin Williams finds

748
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Speaker 2: himself as a third linebacker on the field in situations.

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Speaker 2: And as I'm speaking about this, we could see more

750
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Speaker 2: run heavy teams again in twenty twenty five. And what

751
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Speaker 2: are you going to do when you face a run

752
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: heavy team, You're going to stack the box more so

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Speaker 2: you may need a third linebacker more than you anticipate.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for as much as the NFL today is a

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00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 4: passing league and we've lost I mean, it's been a

756
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Speaker 4: decade now that a nickel cornerback has been a starting position.

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Speaker 4: In speaking about all this depth that we mentioned in

758
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 4: the first segment, you want to just be as versatile

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Speaker 4: as possible, to be matchup proof where you can face

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Speaker 4: a team that wants to run the bollaton and has

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Speaker 4: a Derrick Henry and load up with three linebackers, or

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Speaker 4: you want to be able to have to play five

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Speaker 4: and six defensive backs, seven defensive backs if you need

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Speaker 4: to to have Dorian Williams on the roster, and to

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Speaker 4: kind of put a bow on your point. Early in

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Speaker 4: his career that rookie season, why he wasn't on the

767
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Speaker 4: field by it was Terrell Bernard playing a lot more.

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Speaker 4: Sean McDermott mentioned, it's just because he didn't really know

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Speaker 4: the playbook yacht. He was in a very elementary system

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Speaker 4: at Tulane. If he's now having lights come on for

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Speaker 4: him in terms of reading his Keys, getting to the

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Speaker 4: football a step quicker with sub four or five speed already.

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Speaker 4: That's why I think he's aligned to have a huge

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Speaker 4: breakout year, because it really was only grasping the mental

775
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Speaker 4: side of the game and getting a firm grasp of

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Speaker 4: the system. I think he has that.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's go back to the phones. Tom on the

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Speaker 2: west side joining us.

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Speaker 1: Now, Hey, Tom, Hey kiddos, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 4: Great?

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Speaker 7: Good?

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Speaker 1: How are you good? I want to first say hi

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Speaker 1: to Butch and Judy and Kevin and the multiple marks

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Speaker 1: out there, especially New Jersey. Give him a shout out.

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Speaker 1: Bill's box. Okay, I want to say hoy. Even though

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Speaker 1: he's going to miss the first six games of the season,

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Speaker 1: that's right before our bye, and we only got one

788
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Speaker 1: big game really in there, maybe two if you count Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I think they're on the front end of our schedule.

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Speaker 1: But you got Baltimore, so he comes back, and then

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Speaker 1: we got Kansas City, Cincinnati, Philadelphia. We're going to have

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Speaker 1: him for those games, and they're going to move him around,

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Speaker 1: and they're not going to know how to game plan

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Speaker 1: for him because they're not going to see him in

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. Now, my question is when

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Speaker 1: can he come back, Because he gets the bye week,

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Speaker 1: that's the extra week right there. Can he come back

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Speaker 1: a week or two before and start practicing with the

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Speaker 1: team again.

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Speaker 3: Great question, Tom.

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Speaker 2: If it's six games, he's not going to be able

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Speaker 2: to join back on any team activities until that bye week.

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Speaker 2: So that bye week, it's not like the guys are

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00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: out of the building on Monday or Tuesday. You usually

805
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 2: have players that stick around through the entire week, which

806
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: may stick around the entire week just to get ready

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Speaker 2: for Week eight and get ramped up. But they do

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00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: have activities team activities the first couple days of that week.

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Speaker 2: But it totally depends on what Sean McDermott wants to do.

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Speaker 2: He may say, hey, you guys have kicked butt to

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Speaker 2: start this season. You get the entire week off, so

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Speaker 2: we'll see what happens there. But hoit is a good option.

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Speaker 2: Like Tom said, people are not going to have tape

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Speaker 2: of him for the first six weeks of the season.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 2: I know he's not a rookie, but I also view

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Speaker 2: him as a player who is going to line up

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Speaker 2: all over the place and be looked at as a

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Speaker 2: chess piece on this defense and to me kind of

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Speaker 2: chess piece does mean under the radar type player who

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Speaker 2: could have a big impact.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was going to say. That it's

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Speaker 4: not only not having film on him, because he's not

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Speaker 4: playing in those first six games. You've never seen him

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Speaker 4: in the Bill system. And he is already or naturally

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Speaker 4: because he's so versatile, someone that is hard to gain

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Speaker 4: plan for, because he lines up over the center, he

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Speaker 4: plays edge rusher, he plays off ball linebacker, he lines

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Speaker 4: up at three technique. He's a blitzer from all different

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Speaker 4: alignments defensively, So already when they're ramping up for that

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Speaker 4: Chiefs game or a lot of the more difficult games

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Speaker 4: on the Bill schedule later, it's going to be really

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Speaker 4: hard to understand or to guess where Michael Hoyt is

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Speaker 4: going to be deployed by Bobby Babbage. So I'm in

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Speaker 4: the train of thought that I don't really care about

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Speaker 4: those first six games, not saying that they don't matter.

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Speaker 4: And you start with the Ravens on Sunday Night. You

838
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Speaker 4: want to win that game, but the Bills, for as

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Speaker 4: much as you still have to win the division get

840
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Speaker 4: to the playoffs, the Bills are playing for December January

841
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Speaker 4: and February, and if those six games again allow the

842
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: Bills to have more freedom with what they do with

843
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 4: Michael Hoyt where they can catch teams off guard. I

844
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Speaker 4: think that is way more valuable than him being on

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Speaker 4: the field and risking injured in September.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to take a break, but when we return,

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Speaker 2: more of your phone calls coming up next. Here on

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Speaker 2: one Bills Live, We're presented by Clyde Health on Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to one Bills Live.

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Speaker 2: Mattie Glab alongside of CBS Sports NFL Draft analyst Chris

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Speaker 2: Trepasso filling in for Steve and Chris today. Our topic

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Speaker 2: for you, who is your Bills under the radar candidate

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Speaker 2: to make a major impact this season?

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Speaker 3: Tweet at us.

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Speaker 2: Or give us a call at eight oh three oh

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Speaker 2: five point fifty. Going back to the phone lines too,

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Speaker 2: Judy and Buffalo joining us.

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Speaker 9: Now, Hey, Judy, hither you know I think your assessment

860
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Speaker 9: of the Buffalo's offers at the start of the program

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Speaker 9: with spot on, this is a team that should be

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Speaker 9: able to control the game forty out of the sixteen

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Speaker 9: and offense, so it comes down to the last the

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Speaker 9: other twenty minutes, and I have to think that the

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Speaker 9: Bills have improved and the success of our season will

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Speaker 9: really depend on whether that defense can hold all of

867
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 9: their opponents twenty points or less. I think the proof

868
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 9: will be in the putting when we play the Ravens

869
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 9: and the Bengals. If we can keep them under control

870
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 9: at which we have not been able to do, I

871
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 9: would say that maybe we have truly improved our defense

872
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 9: where we can be considered a Super Bowl contender.

873
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: Judy, thanks for the call. I think you're completely right.

874
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: The offense was an offense who produced more than thirty

875
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: points a game last season. They were near the top

876
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: of the league in their average, and defense was the

877
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: position group that saw the biggest overhaul in free agency

878
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: and in the draft. As you said, five out of

879
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: the first six players drafted we're defensive players. And the

880
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 2: players that you have on this roster now on defense

881
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: that are new players.

882
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 3: We spoke it up about it at the top of

883
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: the show.

884
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: These are all improvements to this roster, and yes, we

885
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: will see what it looks like once Week one happens.

886
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: There's no guarantees, but they've set themselves up about as

887
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: good as they can to be ready to have a

888
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 2: better defense. Who can contend against some of these offensive

889
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: powerhouses that ranked super high in the FPI ratings that

890
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 2: we talked about earlier in the show, the Ravens, the Chiefs,

891
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 2: and the Eagles and the Lions.

892
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. First off, this is a treat for me.

893
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 4: I come on, it's my first timeline. Like in a

894
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 4: month or so, get a call from Butch and Judy.

895
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 4: It's absolutely a treat. Talking about the five out of

896
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 4: six draft picks, the first six draft picks being on defense.

897
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 4: That's after signing Joey Bosa, Michael Hoyt, Larry Ogunjobi my

898
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 4: underrated guy, Derek Forrest, Trey White, Dane Jackson. So like,

899
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 4: this was not just hey, we hope that some first

900
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 4: year guys can be really good and we're expecting a

901
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 4: lot out of rookies. I don't think it's usually smart

902
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: to put so much on just one rookies plate, much

903
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 4: less five or six of them. To also mix them

904
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 4: in with some veterans on the defensive side. That really

905
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 4: shows that it was a point of emphasis to improve

906
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 4: that side of the ball, which again ultimately failed the Bills,

907
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 4: mostly due to depth in the AFC Title Game, but

908
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 4: did lead the NFL in turnovers last season. So I

909
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 4: agree with Judy that the offense as intact as it

910
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 4: is with the new pieces with Josh Palmer and Elijah

911
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 4: Moore and then everything else that has been the same

912
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 4: from last year, obviously Josh Allen chief among those pieces,

913
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 4: it really will come down to the defense. I think

914
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 4: I can't say that the offense won't turn the ball

915
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 4: over as infrequently as it did last year. Do I

916
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 4: think the Bills are going to be near the top

917
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 4: of the league in turnovers that they allowed to the

918
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 4: other team? No, I don't think Josh Allen is going

919
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 4: to do that. I don't think that's going to be

920
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 4: a part of the run game either. So it really

921
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 4: will be an ultimately hinge on how soundly the defense

922
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 4: can play. And if you're not wanting to fast forward

923
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 4: too soon or get ahead of yourself for the playoffs,

924
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 4: those games against the Ravens and the Chiefs and the

925
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 4: Bengals and the Eagles, those will be the difference between

926
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 4: a one seed that the Bills have not gotten a

927
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 4: two seed going on the road for the AFC Title Game,

928
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 4: whatever the case may be. So I think, yes, what

929
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 4: Judy said in those games, and we will find out

930
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 4: right away with Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson how good

931
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 4: this Bill's defense could be. That's not to say that

932
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 4: Week one will ultimately lead the way or show us

933
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 4: how good or bad the Bills defense will be right away,

934
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 4: because they can obviously grow with a lot of these

935
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 4: young players. But yeah, it's way more on the defense,

936
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 4: I think, than on the offensive side.

937
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: Those big games are also pretty spread out throughout the season,

938
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 2: so you get these kind of you know, benchmin Yeah,

939
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: benchmarks throughout the season to check in how are we

940
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: playing compared to this team that we're facing.

941
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 3: And I think it'll be.

942
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: A good taste and a good test throughout the season

943
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: at different points, Okay, how are we lining up here,

944
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 2: how are we lining up there? And then ultimately you

945
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: get the Eagles in Week seventeen, which, if both teams

946
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 2: are playing for something, could be another really good benchmark game.

947
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 4: And all those games are at home. Yeah, it is

948
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 4: kind of weirdly felt like, oh man, a lot of

949
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 4: the Bill's tough games are on the road in the

950
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 4: regular season. Those marquee games against those heavyweights are all

951
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 4: in Orchard Park, which obviously matters a lot final season

952
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 4: in this stadium, back here High Mark Stadium. I think

953
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 4: that Week seventeen game feels like it could get flexed

954
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 4: to Sunday night if those two teams are whether they're

955
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 4: battling for the two seed or the one seed in

956
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 4: their respective conferences. It is truly a good spread of

957
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 4: those litmus tests. But getting those games at home where

958
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 4: the defense can really feed off the crowd, I think

959
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 4: is just a little bit of an edge that they

960
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 4: might need to ultimately win those games.

961
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 2: Go back to the phone to Tom and East Rochester

962
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: who joins us?

963
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 7: Now?

964
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 3: Tom, how you doing good?

965
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 8: How are you guys doing great?

966
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 3: Doing good?

967
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 8: My big splash is actually a player who has already

968
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 8: proven himself. What's coming off injury is Matt mullanal He

969
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 8: came off that dreadful injury in London. That game still

970
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 8: in my head. I was at both playoff games last

971
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 8: year and I was down low watching him. He made

972
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 8: the right cuts, he made the right decisions. He was

973
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 8: just a hair too slow and got burnt on the

974
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 8: speed outside plays and making that huge splash play. I

975
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 8: know Matt Mullano, He's going to keep trying keep figuring out.

976
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 8: But I do believe he will get his legs back

977
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 8: this year and he will start making those splash plays

978
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 8: and it's going to be a big difference with this defense.

979
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 8: Love you guys, love the bill. Let's do it.

980
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 3: Thanks Tom, appreciate it.

981
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Milano is somebody who I think a lot

982
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 2: of people would have on this list in terms of

983
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 2: how he can come back from that torn bicep injury.

984
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 2: We know he came back at the end of last season,

985
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: but really you're just trying to get your legs back

986
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 2: under you. You're trying to get used to playing football,

987
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: getting used to.

988
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: The hits, and we saw we saw flashes of Milano.

989
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: One play that I recall that we referenced quite a

990
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: bit is that sack that he had on Bo Nicks

991
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: in the playoffs where we chased him down near the sideline,

992
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 2: and it showed his speed and his range and his power.

993
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: Now he has an entire offseason where he's healthy, I

994
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: believe Milano too can come back to be an impact

995
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 2: player again.

996
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's key. This will be the first time in

997
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 4: three years that Milano isn't spending his off season nursing

998
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 4: an injury. That's a totally different thing. When you're in

999
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 4: the rehab room and you're trying to just get healthy,

1000
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 4: you're not working on your conditioning, you can't do a

1001
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 4: lot of those. So now, obviously Milano got hurt really

1002
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 4: close to the season last year, and for his sake,

1003
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 4: let's hope it doesn't happen again. But if he's able

1004
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 4: to just stay healthy and play into the regular season

1005
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 4: without another injury hiccup a major one like he suffered

1006
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 4: the last two years, he absolutely would be a great

1007
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 4: pick for under the radar guy that we know, when

1008
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 4: he is healthy, will make a major impact on this defense.

1009
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: Coming up next on the show, we're looking at players

1010
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 2: in their second year who could have a big impact

1011
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 2: on this roster, and also looking at some of the

1012
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: new wide receivers and the impact they could have as well.

1013
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 2: Christoph Passo has a model that he ran some of

1014
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: this stuff through, so it's going to be fun to

1015
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 2: talk about next year. On One Bill's Live, we're presented

1016
00:52:43,880 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 2: by Clydehealth on Buffalo Bills Radio.

1017
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Calledlida Health.

1018
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: Welcome into our number two of One Bill's Live on

1019
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: this Thursday afternoon I'm Mattie Glab. I'm joined by CBS

1020
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: Sports NFL Draft analyst Chris Trapasso.

1021
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 3: Fill in for Chris and Steve today. Now in our.

1022
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: Number two, we're gonna start this hour by discussing a

1023
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 2: couple of new faces on this roster on offense as

1024
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: well as a couple of players in their second year.

1025
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: We're going to project what they could do in year

1026
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: two and project to what these new guys could do

1027
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 2: in their first year with Buffalo.

1028
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: So we're gonna.

1029
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: Start with Bill's running back Ray Davis. In his rookie season,

1030
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 2: Ray Davis was a player that you could depend on.

1031
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: He was a powerful running back who fought for those

1032
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: extra yards. And if you look at the stats, one

1033
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: hundred and thirteen carries, four hundred and forty two rushing yards,

1034
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: three touchdowns on the ground, three in the air, so

1035
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: that's six total for the rookie, and if you're looking

1036
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: at the playoffs, he also scored a touchdown in the postseason.

1037
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 2: So quite a productive season for the rookie who was

1038
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: drafted in the fourth round saw good production. I would

1039
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: expect that for his second season as well. So Chris,

1040
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 2: tell us how you projected the year two numbers for

1041
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: Ray Davis.

1042
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 4: All Right, I'm gonna try not to bog you down

1043
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 4: with numbers, but I'm gonna explain how I came up

1044
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 4: with these averages. So what I did is I went

1045
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 4: back twenty years to get a big enough sample size,

1046
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 4: but not to go back thirty forty fifty years. So

1047
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 4: I used the last twenty years, so from three or

1048
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 4: from four to twenty twenty three. I didn't use last

1049
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 4: year because those players obviously haven't played yet. And I

1050
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 4: looked at running backs that were very similar in their

1051
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 4: rookie seasons to Ray Davis, So like between one hundred

1052
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 4: carries and one hundred and twenty five carries you mentioned

1053
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 4: he had one hundred and thirteen in the regular season.

1054
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 4: And then in terms of how successful they were very similar.

1055
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 4: Yards per attempt to average his was three point nine

1056
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 4: and success rate, which I think is a very important

1057
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 4: stat for running backs. It's you achieved sixty percent of

1058
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 4: the yardage on first down, forty percent on second down,

1059
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 4: or get the first down on third and fourth down.

1060
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 4: His was forty five percent last year. Running backs that

1061
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 4: had almost identical seasons in that twenty year stretch to

1062
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 4: Ray Davis. How did they do in year two. That's

1063
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 4: where I think you can make somewhat of a legitimate projection.

1064
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 4: You can maybe call it a ceiling if you think

1065
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 4: this is overly optimistic, but just to give some framework

1066
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 4: for his year two. So there were eighteen total running

1067
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 4: backs that had very similar seasons to Ray Davis in

1068
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 4: year one. Now I'm also blending into this projection, maybe

1069
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 4: James Cook. I don't think the holdout's gonna last well

1070
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 4: well into the season. But let's just assume let's base

1071
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 4: his projection on Ray Davis getting more than one hundred carries. Again,

1072
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 4: he got one hundred carries last year. There were eighteen

1073
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 4: of those running backs, And I'm using that one hundred

1074
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 4: carry threshold because nine of those running backs in this

1075
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 4: twenty year sample did not ultimately reach one hundred carries

1076
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 4: in year two. Five of them got injured, four of

1077
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 4: them just fell by the wayside, coaching change, didn't play well,

1078
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 4: so half the time they didn't ultimately reach that one

1079
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 4: hundred carry plateau. Well, let's say Ray Davis does that.

1080
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 4: There were nine running backs then who ultimately did go

1081
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 4: over one hundred carries in year two after having a

1082
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 4: very similar season to ray Davis in their rookie seasons,

1083
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 4: and of those nine running backs, the averages are one

1084
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 4: hundred and seventy three carries up from one thirteen for

1085
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 4: ray Davis, seven hundred and fifty two yards and four

1086
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 4: point three five yards per carry with five touchdowns on

1087
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 4: the ground. So if ray Davis goes up about sixty

1088
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 4: carries and goes up more than three hundred yards on

1089
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 4: the ground and adds two more rushing touchdowns to this

1090
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 4: backfield and is clearly across the board more productive. I

1091
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 4: think whether you know, you can factor in whatever you

1092
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 4: want about how James cooks, if he's going to be

1093
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 4: able to maintain that production, if he regresses, if he

1094
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 4: doesn't play whatever. Adding seven hundred and fifty yards compared

1095
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 4: to four hundred and forty two I think would be

1096
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 4: a boon for this bill's offense. So, using not just

1097
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 4: my thoughts, your thoughts actual numbers to project ray Davis

1098
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy three carries for seven hundred and

1099
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 4: fifty two yards almost four point four yards per carry

1100
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 4: with five rushing touchdowns would be a great return on investment,

1101
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 4: like you mentioned, for a year two fourth round running back.

1102
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would not be upset with that type of

1103
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: production out of his secondary running back who's drafted in

1104
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 2: the fourth round, and thinking about the way Buffalo's offense

1105
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: is going to operate in twenty twenty five. Job Brady

1106
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: returns as offensive coordinator, your quarterback returns, your five starting

1107
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 2: offensive lineman return this everybody eats Mantra will be back

1108
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: for a second season. But within that, you still want

1109
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: to diversify what you're doing. You don't want to look

1110
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: the same as you did last year because the tape

1111
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 2: exists on how this team played last year, So you

1112
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 2: want to add a few more wrinkles. Ray Davis had

1113
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 2: a good first season. I believe Ray Davis could be

1114
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 2: featured more in his second season. You got James Cook,

1115
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: who's coming off of a year where he had over

1116
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 2: one thousand rushing yards sixteen rushing touchdowns. Teams are going

1117
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: to expect James Cook to run the rock quite a bit.

1118
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: Davis gives you not a different wrinkle because that wrinkle

1119
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: existed last year, but it diversifies what Buffalo. Buffalo can

1120
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 2: do a little bit more if you depend on him

1121
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: as well as Ty Johnson in the backfield too, And.

1122
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 4: He's a different style back. I mean that three point

1123
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 4: nine yards per carry average as a rookie seems not

1124
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 4: very good. But I mentioned the forty five percent success right,

1125
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 4: if you're over fifty, you're one of the best backs

1126
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 4: in the league. So if you're at forty five percent,

1127
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 4: if you're getting three yards on third and two, that

1128
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 4: is a successful run in any offense. So Ray Davis

1129
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 4: proved and I'm not saying that James Cook can never

1130
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 4: pick up a first down in short yardage. He proved

1131
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 4: that as a smaller back, he's actually pretty good at

1132
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 4: doing that. That touchdown on fourth downd in the ANFC

1133
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 4: title game just stands out in my head. But what

1134
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 4: you're saying that that Ray Davis is a different wrinkle

1135
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 4: I think is absolutely spot on. Because he is stockier,

1136
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 4: he's more powerful, he's more side to side wiggle, where

1137
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 4: James Cook is more of a slasher and a speed guy.

1138
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 4: So if the Bills get that jump from him, that

1139
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 4: I've kind of created that framework of one hundred and

1140
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 4: seventy three rushes, seven hundred and fifty two yards and

1141
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 4: five touchdowns that would then allow James Cook to maybe

1142
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 4: be and stay more fresh for the playoffs or that

1143
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 4: the Bills won't have to rely on him as much

1144
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 4: or even if they try to, and there is a

1145
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 4: little bit of a regression from such a great breakout

1146
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 4: year for James Cook. The run game won't completely go

1147
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 4: into the gut or they will have that reinforcement in

1148
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 4: Ray Davis, which again I think was smart for the

1149
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 4: Bills to spend that fourth round pick on him in

1150
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 4: last year's draft.

1151
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: The Bills have two new wide receivers on their roster

1152
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 2: who will see a good amount of action on the

1153
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: field in twenty twenty five. It's Elijah Moore and Joshua Palmer. Now,

1154
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: Elijah Moore comes to us from the Cleveland Browns. Joshua

1155
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 2: Palmer comes to us from the LA Chargers. Now, Palmer

1156
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: has played with a talented quarterback in Justin Herbert, but

1157
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 2: speaking with Elijah Moore when he was brought on to

1158
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: this roster, one of the reasons why he said he

1159
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 2: was so excited to be a Buffalo Bill was because

1160
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: of the fact that more gets to play with josh

1161
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: Allen saying that I have played in this league for

1162
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: already four seasons, but I don't feel like I've played

1163
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: with a true ultra talented quarterback. Josh Allen gives me

1164
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 2: that option, and because of that, I believe my best

1165
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 2: football is ahead of me.

1166
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 3: So when you look.

1167
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 2: At Moore and Palmer, what they've done before and what

1168
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 2: they could do in Buffalo, how did you come up

1169
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 2: with those numbers?

1170
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 4: So first, I'll just put a bow on the Ray

1171
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 4: Davis conversation last year about the same time, I projected

1172
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 4: that James Cook was going to have a breakout year

1173
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 4: based on the amount of carries, the age that he

1174
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 4: was entering, where a lot of running backs that had

1175
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 4: similar starts to their career had big year threes like

1176
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 4: James Cook had. I was ultimately wrong on Curtis Samuel,

1177
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 4: but I think the injured ultimately was a huge factor.

1178
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 4: You can't get those. So I'm gonna run James or

1179
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 4: Josh Palmer and Elijah Moore, excuse me, through the same

1180
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 4: model or average that I did last year, and what

1181
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 4: I'm calling it is the Cole Beasley, John Brown and

1182
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs multipliers, what those wide receivers did in Dallas,

1183
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 4: in Baltimore and in Minnesota pre Josh Allen, and then

1184
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 4: the multipliers or the bump, the Josh Allen bump. We

1185
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 4: can call it that they got when they were in Buffalo.

1186
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 4: So you mentioned it that Josh Palmer has played with

1187
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 4: a borderline elite level quarterback, a big time talent in

1188
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 4: Justin Herbert. His best season. This is Josh Palmer one

1189
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 4: hundred and seven targets, seventy two catches, seven hundred and

1190
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 4: sixty nine yards in three touchdowns. If we use those

1191
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 4: John Brown, Cole Beasley, and Stefan Diggs multipliers, that's one

1192
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 4: hundred and nineteen targets, eighty three catches, nine hundred and

1193
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 4: seven teen yards, and two and a half right around

1194
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 4: three touchdowns. Again, so that would again to have to

1195
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 4: inject a thousand yard ish receiver. That would probably be

1196
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 4: the ceiling for Palmer. I think, especially in this everybody

1197
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 4: eats offense. That would be a big bump for him

1198
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 4: statistically and would help this Bill's pass game a lot.

1199
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: Eighty three catches is a lot for and everybody eats

1200
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 2: the style of offense as well well.

1201
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 4: He and what I will say there is a little

1202
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 4: caveat here. I did not include maccollins in this projection

1203
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 4: because maccollins previously high numbers across the board came in

1204
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two with the Raiders, he played like ninety

1205
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 4: five percent of the snaps that year, and he didn't

1206
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 4: play anywhere close to I think it was like in

1207
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 4: the sixties, like low sixties. Last year for the Bills,

1208
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 4: Curtis Samuel obviously got injured, so I wasn't going to

1209
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 4: throw him in. I mean, this is all presuming that

1210
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 4: these guys stay healthy, of course, but yes, eighty three

1211
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 4: catches would be a lot, And I'll say if I'm

1212
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 4: gonna mention that with Mac Collins, I got a mention

1213
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 4: it with Josh Palmer. Those seventy two catches for seven

1214
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty nine yards came a few years ago

1215
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 4: in LA when Mike Williams went down, when Keenan Allen

1216
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 4: like also got hurt. So do I expect the same volume.

1217
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 4: Maybe not, But he proved that he can be in

1218
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 4: a season where he can catch seventy two passes for

1219
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 4: seven hundred and sixty nine yards with three scores. So

1220
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 4: his ceiling, I'm going to say the highest that Josh

1221
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 4: Palmer production wise, especially with Shakir and Kincaid and the

1222
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 4: run game and all that. Eighty three catches, nine hundred

1223
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 4: and seventeen yards and two and a half touchdowns.

1224
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 2: One reason why he can reach that is because Palmer

1225
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 2: is known as being a man beater, and there was

1226
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 2: a stat that came out right after the Bills acquired

1227
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 2: Joshua Palmer in his ability to beat man coverage, which

1228
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 2: Josh Allen has talked about. Brandon Bean has talked about

1229
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 2: that they now have a receiver who is really good

1230
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 2: at doing this game after game, and.

1231
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 3: Palmer ranks in the top ten.

1232
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Fantasy Points Data, which is one of my new

1233
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 4: favorite analytics sites. It's obviously mostly for fantasy purposes, but

1234
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,959
Speaker 4: they tweeted this right after Josh Palmer signed that Josh

1235
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 4: Palmer gives the Bills a much needed weapon versus man coverage.

1236
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 4: Buffalo's average separation score ranks among man among one hundred

1237
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 4: and thirty one qualifying players last season, Josh Palmer was

1238
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 4: eighth best the rest of the Bills a wide receiver group.

1239
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 4: Kean Coleman fifty fourth, Mcollins seventy first, Khalil Shakir eighty second,

1240
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 4: and Kincaid eighty six. Now, if you're wondering what is

1241
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 4: average separation score, I subscribe to that site, Fantasy Points

1242
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 4: data last year, they are doing like Pro Football focus

1243
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 4: level watching every single route that a receiver runs and

1244
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 4: determining was he open or was he not? So for

1245
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 4: Josh Palmer against man coverage, their iding manner zone, they

1246
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 4: have a bunch of people working there to be in

1247
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 4: the top ten, like you're mentioning against man and that

1248
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 4: early in the season was kind of a bug for

1249
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 4: this Bill's offense that they weren't able to do that.

1250
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 4: That's why, like you're saying, maybe Josh Palmer can become

1251
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 4: more of a one to a option on this team

1252
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 4: because at twenty five years old, he's proven in this league.

1253
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 4: Not only is he a deep threat, but he can

1254
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 4: get open against man.

1255
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 3: And what about Elijah Moore?

1256
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 2: Where do we see Elijah Moore fitting into Buffalo's offense

1257
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 2: with these projected numbers.

1258
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 4: So Elijah Moore's career high and he's kind of the

1259
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 4: opposite of Josh Palmer in terms of the quarterbacks that

1260
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 4: he's had thrown him the football in New York with

1261
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 4: the Jets and Zach Wilson and then most recently in

1262
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 4: Cleveland with Deshaun Watson and like fifteen other quarterbacks that

1263
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 4: didn't play more than two or three games his best season,

1264
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 4: and get ready for this catch rate is super low.

1265
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,919
Speaker 4: One hundred and four targets, fifty nine catches. That said,

1266
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 4: a lot of those were uncatchable targets for I think

1267
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 4: still they're very respectable six hundred and forty yards and

1268
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 4: two touchdowns using the Cole Beasley, John Brown, and Stefan

1269
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 4: Diggs multipliers. That's again assuming that he plays a reasonable

1270
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 4: amount of snaps he doesn't get injured like Curtis Samuel

1271
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 4: did last season with those multipliers, one hundred and sixteen targets,

1272
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 4: sixty eight catches, seven hundred and sixty three yards and

1273
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 4: two scores. So not quite as high as Josh Palmer,

1274
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 4: but maybe you can factor in the quarterback difference to

1275
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 4: start that baseline being a lot just not as good.

1276
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 4: But Elijah Moore is someone that can also get open

1277
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 4: underneath at all three levels of the field. I loved him.

1278
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 4: I wanted the Bills to draft him in twenty twenty

1279
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 4: one in the first round. He got picked early in

1280
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 4: round two by the Jets, and again add seven hundred

1281
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 4: and sixty three yards to this offense. That again probably

1282
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 4: represents the ceiling for Elijah Moore and that would be

1283
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 4: a huge boost to the pass game. Not that they

1284
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 4: are replacing a ton of targets from last year, but

1285
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 4: they don't have Amari Cooper. They're not going to have

1286
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 4: MATC Collins. He's in New England. If you add sixty

1287
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 4: eight catches, seven hundred and sixty three yards, who scores

1288
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 4: with Elijah Moore and he's someone that you signed after

1289
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 4: the draft. That is hats off to the front office for.

1290
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 2: Signing seven hundred and sixty three yards. Certainly helps you

1291
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 2: move down the field, move the sticks. If you look

1292
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: at the way Moore plays the game, he's a speedster,

1293
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 2: shifty wide receiver. What role do you see him taking

1294
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Speaker 2: on in Buffalo's office?

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Speaker 4: Well, part of I mean, going back to the draft,

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Speaker 4: part of the reason why I liked Elijah Moore so

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Speaker 4: much is that at his size, he's a little smaller.

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Speaker 4: He's not like one hundred and eighty pounds, but he's

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Speaker 4: not Deebo Samuel. He's a little smaller, kind of built

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Speaker 4: like a bigger slot receiver so to speak. So you

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Speaker 4: think he's shifty, he's gonna get open. He's underneath he's

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Speaker 4: running those jerk routes. He's running Slans, he's shallow crosses.

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Speaker 4: He ran in the four threes at the combine, so

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Speaker 4: he demonstrated at Ole Miss and at times where a

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Speaker 4: lot of the passes were flying over his head in

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Speaker 4: New York and Cleveland that, like you mentioned, he is

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Speaker 4: a vertical threat too. So there aren't a ton. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to say that there's only like a

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Speaker 4: handful of players, but there are not a ton of

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Speaker 4: wide receivers in today's NFL that are legitimate three level winners.

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Speaker 4: And Elijah Moore is he was in college and all

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Speaker 4: of the numbers indicate that underneath intermediate level and at

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Speaker 4: times deep with that four to three speed, that he

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Speaker 4: can be a vertical threat to this offense as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we just put together a lot of yards in

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Speaker 2: the wide receiver room, and if we talk about the

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Speaker 2: discussion of Buffalo doesn't have enough wide receivers, these are

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Speaker 2: two new additions to Buffalo's roster, and if they get

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Speaker 2: somewhere in the wheelhouse of these projections, you're sitting at

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Speaker 2: a pretty good place. And you have Kean Coleman, you

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Speaker 2: have Curtis Samuel, you have Khalil Shakir, you have Laviska Chanault,

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Speaker 2: who we haven't even talked about yet.

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Speaker 3: Add up those.

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Speaker 2: Numbers and it's looking like another really good season for

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen.

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Speaker 4: In the air one hundred percent. And what we talked

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Speaker 4: about is kind of tying back to the first segment

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Speaker 4: that this is not to say that I'm absolutely guaranteeing

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Speaker 4: eighty three catches in nine hundred and seventeen yards for

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Speaker 4: Josh Palmer, but if they go, if he experiences the

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Speaker 4: same bump that Beasley, Brown and Diggs saw, that's where

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Speaker 4: he ultimately will be. Same with Elijah Moore sixty eight catches,

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Speaker 4: seven hundred and sixty three yards. I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 4: that that's exactly like what I'm expecting them to do,

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Speaker 4: but it lessens the reliance on a key on Coleman,

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Speaker 4: on a Dulton Kincaid, Oh Dawson Knox gets injured for

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Speaker 4: a couple games, we don't have him, Oh we have

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Speaker 4: Elijah Moore making plays, or Curtis Samuel gets dinged to again,

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01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 4: or he's not a huge part of the offense. It

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Speaker 4: allows the Bills to be even more diverse with this

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01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 4: everybody eats mentality by bringing in two established but still

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Speaker 4: young players who have not yet experienced the Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: bump at wide receiver, and I think that is key,

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01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 4: especially for a team that maybe more than other or

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01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,759
Speaker 4: than any other, has embraced this everybody eats mentality. Where

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01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 4: like the Bill saw last season, Kinkaid and Coleman were

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Speaker 4: hurt at the same time the offense didn't completely fall off,

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Speaker 4: but there were some times of stagnants. Now, if you

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01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 4: inject those players in and you can have a higher

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Speaker 4: ceiling than Amari Cooper or Matt Collins from last season.

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Speaker 2: And I look at these numbers, I look at what

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01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 2: we're talking about, and I think they don't need anything

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01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 2: else at the wide receiver position, like we're set. If

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Speaker 2: these players can perform in the window that you're saying

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Speaker 2: they can perform in and with these projections, and if

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Speaker 2: you can see a step forward from a Kean Coleman,

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01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 2: from a Kalo Shakir, from a Dulton Kincaid, and throw

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Speaker 2: the running backs in there as well, because our running

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Speaker 2: backs can catch.

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Speaker 3: The football too, I think you're in a.

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Speaker 2: Really good spot to average over thirty points per game

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Speaker 2: again and maybe even reach the record of scoring thirty

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Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns and thirty passing touchdowns in the same season.

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Speaker 4: Now, a lot of that that I mentioned with Palmer

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Speaker 4: and more, those numbers were accomplished when they were pretty

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Speaker 4: vocal points of their offense. I mentioned the what seventy

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Speaker 4: two catches for seven hundred and sixty nine yards for

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Speaker 4: Josh Palmer, which is his current career high, came in

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Speaker 4: a season when Keenan Allen and Mike Williams both got hurt.

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Speaker 4: So they proved that they can do that. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if Josh Palmer is going to be able to

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Speaker 4: get the volume of one hundred and nineteen targets, which

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01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 4: is which would be the projection or Elijah Moore one

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01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 4: hundred and sixteen targets. But if the efficiency is there

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01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 4: on a per route, on a per target basis that

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01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 4: they proved that they can they can have with lesser quarterbacks,

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01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 4: and that gets maybe ramped up a little bit or

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01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 4: a lot with Josh Allen if those are you know,

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Speaker 4: if those targets are even cut in half. But there

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Speaker 4: are forty catches for five hundred something the yards, four

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01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 4: or five touchdowns and you spread that out with two

1382
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 4: players and then already the incumbents that are coming back.

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Speaker 4: Then you get to that level again. Thirty touchdowns on

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Speaker 4: the ground, through the air, five hundred points, thirty one

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01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 4: points a game. That's exactly where the Bills want to stay.

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Speaker 4: And they've done it by not staying complacent and saying, hey, look,

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Speaker 4: we got the same offensive line, we got the same backfield,

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Speaker 4: we got the same quarterback. Let's just run it back. No,

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Speaker 4: they've tried to improve those depth pieces, and what's important

1390
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 4: we talked so much about the depth in the backfield

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Speaker 4: or in the defensive backfield. In that AFC title game,

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01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 4: Amari Cooper made some big plays and Mac Collins had

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01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 4: a touchdown, some big catches down the field. Even late

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Speaker 4: in the season, you may need your Elijah Moore or

1395
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 4: your Leaviscus Channel, or your Ray Davis or your josh

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01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 4: Palmer to make some plays. So if they go through

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Speaker 4: this Josh Allen bump, the Bills offense could be even

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01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 4: better than it was last year.

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Speaker 2: And that's why players like Joshua Palmer and Elijah Moore

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01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 2: want to play for the Buffalo Bills is because they

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01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 2: believe they get a bump in their production when they're

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Speaker 2: matching up with an MVP quarterback in Josh Allen. Now,

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01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 2: I wonder what Keon Coleman's numbers would be. I know he,

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01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 2: you know, suffered an injury last year, missed several games,

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01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 2: and didn't see the production after he came back from

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01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 2: that injury that he did starting this season. But it'd

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01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 2: be interesting to project his numbers for year two.

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01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't run him through. Maybe the next time

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01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 4: I'm on, we can talk about that. But I would

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01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 4: do the same thing that There's been a ton of

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01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 4: receivers that have had mild success as a rookie, especially

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01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 4: an early second round pick, that have had that bump

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01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,480
Speaker 4: in year two that the lights have come on, especially

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01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 4: someone that was so young in Kean Coleman being only

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01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 4: twenty one years old, And I would say, I'll throw

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01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 4: on the extra layer. We are in very distinctly in

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01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 4: the nil transfer portal era and the you know, we

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01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 4: were still seeing in this draft those twenty four twenty

1419
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 4: five year old rookies because they got the extra year

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01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 4: due to COVID. Kean Coleman didn't take advantage of that.

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01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 4: He could have stayed at Florida State for probably two

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01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 4: more years and been an All American. He comes out early.

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01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 4: I wonder if at twenty two or twenty three, that's

1424
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 4: when it really transitions for him where he's not just

1425
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 4: a college player trying to find his bearing. He feels

1426
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 4: like a true professional wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott was asked about Keon Coleman earlier this week

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01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 2: and the offseason that he's had up until this point.

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01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,600
Speaker 2: McDermott said that he was impressed with the way that

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01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 2: Keon Coleman came into this building, how he spent a

1431
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 2: good part of his off season away from this facility,

1432
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 2: focusing on working in the weight room and seeming like

1433
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 2: a more mature player in his second NFL season. I

1434
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 2: know the Bills are expecting him to take a step

1435
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: forward in that second year. We got to take a break.

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01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,879
Speaker 2: When we return back to the tweet sheet. Also answering

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01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: more of your phone calls next, do you have an

1438
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 2: under the radar player that you think could have a

1439
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 2: big impact on Buffalo's roster in twenty twenty five. I

1440
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 2: give us a call with your answer next. On One

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01:15:51,560 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 2: Bill's Live, We're presented by Clyde Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 3: Welcome back to One Bills Live.

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01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 2: In our previous segment, we were talking about players who

1444
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 2: are entering their second year on the Bills what those

1445
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 2: projections could be.

1446
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 3: Ray Davis in year two had.

1447
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 2: Some pretty good projections in terms of numbers that are

1448
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 2: elevating from his first season into year two. And I

1449
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 2: asked about Keon Coleman where he would fit into some

1450
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 2: projections for year two. But as you told me in

1451
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 2: the break, there are it's hard to compare Keon Coleman

1452
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 2: to other rookie wide receivers.

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01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. So, Kean Coleman last year, this is actually hilarious,

1454
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 4: had twenty nine catches for five hundred and fifty six

1455
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 4: hours in the regular season. So I plugged him into

1456
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:54,480
Speaker 4: you know, very similar rookie season output from wide receivers.

1457
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 4: Three other players that I mean, maybe I needed to

1458
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 4: broaden the similarities, but being pretty specific, here are the

1459
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 4: three other receivers that had a very statistically similar rookie

1460
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 4: season to Kean Coleman. Bob Mann in nineteen forty eight

1461
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 4: for the Lions. Never heard of him, but hats off

1462
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 4: to him. Ray Butler nineteen eighty Baltimore Colts, Okay, and

1463
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 4: Hassan Jones of the nineteen eighty six Minnesota Vikings all right,

1464
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 4: So it's at this point unless I really broaden the

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01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 4: range to make it not that similar. It's hard to

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01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 4: project Kean Coleman in this model that I have because

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01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 4: twenty nine catches for five hundred and fifty six yards

1468
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 4: over nineteen yards per catch, but without a lot of volume.

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01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 4: We just don't see that very frequently from a rookie

1470
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 4: wide receiver.

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01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 2: No, and he missed the slew of those games during

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01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 2: the season, didn't have the comeback that a lot of

1473
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 2: people were thinking he would. So a sample of a season,

1474
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 2: but definitely different to maybe project in a year or

1475
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 2: two where you're hoping this player will be fully healthy

1476
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 2: and you know, have a better understanding of the offense,

1477
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 2: more confident, more mature, more strong, you know, all of

1478
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 2: that that you hope a player can can improve upon,

1479
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 2: especially from your first season to your second season in

1480
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 2: the NFL.

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01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 3: Let's get over to the tweet sheet.

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01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 2: Our question for you today under the radar Bills can

1483
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 2: to make a major impact this season. Do you have

1484
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 2: a player in mind? Tweet at us or give us

1485
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 2: a call at ATO three to five point fifty Corgan

1486
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 2: Moving Systems is the official equipment moving company of the

1487
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills and first from k Bills. Their answer is

1488
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 2: Cole Bishop, Max Harrison, and Keon Coleman should all make

1489
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 2: more of an impact than they're being talked about, at

1490
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 2: least outside of Buffalo media and fans. I think those

1491
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 2: are three names who could all have big impacts this season.

1492
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 2: We've talked about Max Harrison and Keon Coleman in this

1493
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,719
Speaker 2: show so far, but not Cole Bishop. And he's somebody

1494
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 2: who Sean McDermott commented on during his press conference earlier

1495
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 2: this week, and he said that Cole Bishop has spent

1496
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 2: a lot of time in the weight room this season.

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01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 2: That's one area that McDermott was proud of as he

1498
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 2: you know, came back to one Bill's drive and thinks

1499
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 2: that Bishop has a better understanding of Buffalo's system on

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01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 2: defense and with that you can play faster, you can

1501
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 2: figure out where your cheats within the system. How can

1502
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 2: you really let your light shine based on what your

1503
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 2: strengths are? And Cole Bishop is somebody who's going to

1504
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 2: be fighting for that safety spot next to Taylor Rapp.

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01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 4: So I'll be honest. The first three picks for the

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Speaker 4: Bills last year, Cam Coleman had kind of an up

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01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 4: and down year. Wasn't always it seemed like he wasn't

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01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 4: sure where to line up or which route to ron

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01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 4: And really Sean McDermott and Josh Allen spoke to that

1510
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 4: Dwayne Carter flash but then got injured and really didn't

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01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 4: do much once he returned from injury. Cole Bishop gets

1512
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 4: injured in training camp. Puts him behind the eight ball schematically.

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01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 4: But he is the one I am least concerned about

1514
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 4: entering year two because as a draft analyst at Utah

1515
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 4: he felt so much like a Bill's safety they had him,

1516
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,839
Speaker 4: and safeties do a lot in today's NFL and in college,

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01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:19,600
Speaker 4: but he not only at Utah was positioned at linebacker,

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01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 4: in the slot, at free safety, maybe a corner, sometimes

1519
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 4: as a strong safety, as an overhanging rusher from the outside,

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01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 4: as a blitzer. He not only did all those things,

1521
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 4: he excelled in those areas and he ran sub four

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01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 4: or five at the combine. So the athleticism and ranges there.

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01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 4: And if you're telling me that Sean McDermott has mentioned

1524
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 4: that he's not only balked up, but he has a

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01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 4: better grasp of the system. I think the lights are

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01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 4: going to come on for Cold Bishop in hear.

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01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 2: Two watching Cold Bishop on the field on Tuesday. They

1528
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 2: are only in shirts.

1529
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 3: And helmets, no pads yet.

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01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 2: But I think Bishop did look stronger and bigger than

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01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:59,959
Speaker 2: he looked last season, So that's an improvement there as well.

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01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phone lines to Bobby and

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01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 2: Buffalo joining us. Now, Hey Bobby, Hi, how are you

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01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:06,799
Speaker 2: doing good? How are you today?

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01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:11,640
Speaker 10: I'm doing good, Maddie. It's it's your pleasure to be

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01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 10: to be on with you guys again. But I wanted

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01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 10: to I wanted to get to the question what to

1538
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 10: whereas to where I see the question who is who is?

1539
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 10: Who is your Bills under the radar candidate to make

1540
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 10: a major impact this season? Well, will Maddie and Chris.

1541
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 10: I don't. I don't have a specific player in mind.

1542
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 10: I'm just going to say the entire but that the

1543
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:39,799
Speaker 10: entire Buffalo Bills team is going to be under the radar.

1544
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 10: And and the main reason why I say that is

1545
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 10: because of this. Because number one, we have an m

1546
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 10: v P quarterback named Josh Allen. Okay, that that that's

1547
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 10: number one. Number two, the Bills picked a great cornerback,

1548
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 10: Sensation and and and Maxwell Harriston.

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01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: I believe that.

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01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:06,640
Speaker 10: Listen. I believe that Maxwell Harriston, if he plays the

1551
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 10: way he does, oh, he's going to be candidate. I

1552
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 10: believe he's going to be one of the candidates for

1553
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 10: Rookie of the Year next year. Okay, And and plus

1554
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 10: and plus in the division that they're in, you know,

1555
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 10: with with with teams they play every year, like the

1556
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 10: Jets and Miami and New England. As a matter of fact,

1557
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 10: I did hear I did hear one of the odds makers,

1558
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 10: uh say. I heard it on ESPN the other day.

1559
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 10: I did hear one of the odds makers say that

1560
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 10: the Bills are favorite to win the AFC East again

1561
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 10: this year. But someone said that the New England Patriots

1562
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:54,480
Speaker 10: are going to be second, right behind the Buffalo Bills. Okay,

1563
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 10: and and and you know what, that remains that remains

1564
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 10: to be seen. But as I stated before, you know

1565
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 10: under the radar. This entire Buffalo Bill's team is gonna

1566
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 10: be under the radar this year. Reason and another reason

1567
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 10: why is this? Okay, I looked at everybody's looking at

1568
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 10: the Buffalo Bills schedule, Okay, and and I'm looking at

1569
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 10: it as well. Okay, And everybody is saying that the

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01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 10: Bills our favorite to win all they are favorite in

1571
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 10: all seventeen games on their schedule. Well, me, myself personally,

1572
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 10: is this. I look at the Bills schedule and I'm

1573
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 10: looking at the Bills finishing with these one with these

1574
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 10: one of two records. They're either gonna finish the same

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01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 10: as they did last year thirteen and four, or they're

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01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 10: gonna finish one up fourteen and three. Okay, but listen,

1577
01:23:55,600 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 10: Bill's mafia. If you disagree with me, talk to me.

1578
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:04,799
Speaker 10: But I strongly do believe that they're going to finish

1579
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 10: with those either one of two records. Okay, Maddie, look

1580
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 10: for look forward, look forward. I'll look forward to your questions.

1581
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 10: And Chris, God bless you, sir, God bless you, Maddie.

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01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:18,839
Speaker 10: You guys, take care and have a good day.

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01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bobby, you as well.

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01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 2: I think thirteen and fourteen are great numbers for win

1585
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 2: totals for the Bills in the regular season and looking

1586
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 2: at the team as a whole, as an under the

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01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 2: radar candidate. We spoke yesterday on the show about an

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01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 2: article that was released on NFL dot com. I believe

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01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 2: it was and it was ranking the most complete rosters

1590
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:40,919
Speaker 2: and Buffalo is five behind. I think it was the Lions,

1591
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 2: the Ravens, the Chiefs, and the Eagles. And Chris Brown said,

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01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 2: you know, how do you feel about that? And do

1593
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 2: you believe the Bills are five? Do you believe they're better?

1594
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 2: And similar to what Bobby said, you know, it doesn't

1595
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:54,799
Speaker 2: matter to me if the Bills are under the radar

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01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 2: on some of these lists. This is a team who

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01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 2: has thrived in the past off being a team where

1598
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 2: your backs are against the wall and people are counting

1599
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 2: you out and you got to go prove yourself.

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Speaker 3: So I'm okay with a little bit of that.

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01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I would say that because the Bills

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01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 4: have the Ragning MVP in Josh Allen, I would say

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01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 4: that makes them not under the radar, right, But if

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01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 4: you are going to follow what Bobby's saying the entire team,

1605
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 4: I think the reason would be a lot of new

1606
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 4: faces on the defensive side and a lot of these

1607
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 4: guys are rookies, or we don't know about the health

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01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 4: and the availability of Joey Bosa. We haven't seen him

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01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 4: in this scheme. Michael Hoyt, Larry Ogan, Jobi suspended for

1610
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 4: the first six games, Trey White back, Dame Jackson back,

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01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 4: all these players that we've talked about. I think if

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01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 4: we're looking at it from a thirty thousand foot view

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01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 4: that the Bills, you could say, hey, I think this

1614
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 4: Bill's team is really, really good, and even despite being

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01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 4: favored in every game, is still under the radar. It

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01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 4: would be because we have not seen these A lot

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01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 4: of these pieces that are going to make plays on

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01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 4: the defensive side. Do it yet for.

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01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 2: Buffalo Sloth knows Ball says it's Milano. Even if he's

1620
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 2: eighty five percent of what he was as an All Pro,

1621
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 2: if he can stay healthy all year, that'd be a

1622
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 2: huge boost to the defense. Another one from Ulis says,

1623
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 2: Javon Solomon Bosa's already hurt, Hoye on a suspension, and

1624
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 2: everyone in love with Jackson, but he's had a year

1625
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 2: to get stronger and was figuring it out at the

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01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 2: end of the at the end of last year.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent. I'm glad someone brought him up. We

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01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 4: haven't talked about him today. We've seemingly talked about everyone

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01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 4: else on the defense besides Javon Solomon. He was another

1630
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 4: draft crush of mine. And maybe that's because I'm a

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01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 4: small guy like Javon Salomon. I mean, he's a lot

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01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 4: bigger than I am, but relative to most ads rushers

1633
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 4: in the NFL, he's a little shorter. And I feel

1634
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 4: like every time I'm on with you, we end up

1635
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 4: talking about this. Do not forget that Javon Solomon has

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01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 4: thirty four inch arms. He has arms that are offensive

1637
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 4: tackle long. They're longer than Will Campbell, the offensive tackle

1638
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 4: out of LSU that the Patriots picked inside the top five.

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01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 4: So he has that length. And I think because of

1640
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 4: the length, and because he's not so tall like the

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01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 4: Greg Russeaus and the Epinessa's and even Landon Jackson, it

1642
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,440
Speaker 4: allows him to use his hands and his natural leverage

1643
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 4: to get up and under offensive tackles, where if you're

1644
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 4: looking at it from a scouting perspective, matters a lot.

1645
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 4: If you're not someone that is going to win with

1646
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 4: sheer speed and sheer power, you better win the leverage battle.

1647
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 4: And I think Javon Solomon, in that final season at

1648
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 4: Troy leading college football in sacks, proved that he's always

1649
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 4: been this height. He understands how to win in that way.

1650
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 4: I'm really looking forward to the potential step that he

1651
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 4: takes in year two.

1652
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 2: For Javon Solomon, it's about putting it together in his

1653
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 2: second season. You have one season under your belt in

1654
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 2: the NFL. How do you feel in this system? Understanding

1655
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 2: it a little bit better?

1656
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 3: Can you play faster? Can you play stronger?

1657
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,839
Speaker 2: All things that we're looking to see out of Solomon

1658
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 2: in his second season. Got to take a break here,

1659
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 2: but when we return, closing things up here on one

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01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:14,520
Speaker 5: This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 3: We're back on One Bill's Live.

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01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,600
Speaker 2: Question of the day under the radar Bills candidate to

1664
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 2: make a major impact this season?

1665
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 3: Do you have an answer? We've seen Cole Bishop.

1666
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 2: Javon Solomon, Matt Mulano, Elijah Moore, Jordan Hancock is the

1667
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 2: name that popped up. Dorian Williams too, Ray Davis.

1668
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 3: What about Dalton Kincaid.

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01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think as a former first rounder who was

1670
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 4: injured last season and we saw a big breakout as

1671
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 4: a rookie. Absolutely a great one. I'm gonna read a

1672
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:49,719
Speaker 4: quick stat from Rich Reebar of Sharp Football. The target

1673
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 4: share went actually on the field last year among tight ends,

1674
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 4: Dalton Kincaid was at thirty point nine percent. That was

1675
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 4: the second highest in the NFL, only behind Trey McBride.

1676
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 4: So his lack of production was not for a lack

1677
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 4: of trying for the Bills last season. I think the

1678
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 4: injury was a major key and the maybe the everybody

1679
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 4: eats mentality. But almost thirty percent or thirty one percent

1680
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 4: of the targets for Kincaid when he was on the

1681
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 4: field shows or indicates her hints that Joe Brady wants

1682
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 4: to utilize him a lot in this offense. So he

1683
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 4: is primed to be that breakout player if he can

1684
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 4: stay healthy in year three.

1685
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing that Brandon be and Angean McDermott wanted

1686
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 2: don't get Kaid to do and the offseason was bulk

1687
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 2: up so he could last an entire NFL season. I'm

1688
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 2: excited to see him on the field in his third season.

1689
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 2: Coming up tomorrow, Josh Reid from Channel four and former

1690
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 2: Bills player George Wilson joins the show We'll see You Then,