WEBVTT - Only Homers Allowed: LSU with Ross Dellenger

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal.

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<v Speaker 2>that whoo whoo? And no Dan and Tie?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, and welcome to the bonus. Only Homers allowed,

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<v Speaker 1>which we of course named after this, but.

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<v Speaker 3>You let in Homer Clublet look it just no Homeers.

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<v Speaker 3>We're allowed to have one.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel so lift yoed.

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<v Speaker 1>And today, as you already know because you've looked at

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the episode you've downloaded or are streaming

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, we are talking about LSU. And we're not

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about LSU because the Alabama game is tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess depending on when you're actually listening to this.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're listening to this in like mid January, congratulations,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your patience and just savoring this like a

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<v Speaker 1>nice old bottle of wine. But for everybody else, this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't really about the Alabama game. This is just about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nine weeks into the season, we stand here

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<v Speaker 1>with LSU at seven and one, with some pretty big,

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<v Speaker 1>if not unexpected wins. I think seven of the eight

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<v Speaker 1>teams that they've beaten our FBS teams with winning records,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a pretty crazy accomplishment. Not that LSU can

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily control how good their opponents are, but they can

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<v Speaker 1>definitely control which side of the win and lost column

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<v Speaker 1>they end up at the end of sixty minutes, and

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<v Speaker 1>LSU certainly has done a very good job of that

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<v Speaker 1>for a number of reasons, which we are now going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into with Sports illustrateds Ross Dellinger, who of

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<v Speaker 1>course has covered LSU for many, many years and is

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<v Speaker 1>now on sort of a national beat for SI, but

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<v Speaker 1>still incredibly connected and insightful with all things LSU, so

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<v Speaker 1>he was sort of a no brainer to have on

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the Tigers. So as we get into

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<v Speaker 1>that we've done a couple of these Homer shows a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago at Jeff Schwartz of a number

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<v Speaker 1>of different places but including the Action Network and some

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<v Speaker 1>radio appearances as a host. He hosts radio. That's good,

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<v Speaker 1>good for Jeff because he's really good at it. And

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<v Speaker 1>last week Mike Golick Junior with Ty talking about all

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<v Speaker 1>things Notre Dame and a little bit of caffeine, did

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<v Speaker 1>a great job. Love Mike Golick Junior as well. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to break our offensive line streak, our former offensive

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<v Speaker 1>lineman streak here though, with Ross Dollinger who still is

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<v Speaker 1>in Baton Rouge and does a great job and excited

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to him. So why don't we just go

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<v Speaker 1>into that. And with that, we are now joined by

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<v Speaker 1>Sports illustrateds Ross Dellinger. I'm sorry, I only read your name.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to pronounce it. If I'm pronouncing

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<v Speaker 1>it correctly, is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>You did? You got it right? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. That's a relief who obviously covered LSU

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time down in Baton Rouge, but is

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<v Speaker 1>now covering all sorts of stories around college football. Four

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<v Speaker 1>Sports illustrated, but still based in Baton Rouge. So I figured,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, this is a great option. This is

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who probably has a lot of thoughts and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of insights. So I will start right here with

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<v Speaker 1>LSU's I think surprise season to some Are you surprised

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<v Speaker 1>by LSU's success thus far this season?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I am. I probably wasn't quite as down on

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<v Speaker 3>them as some others were, but I did not certainly

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<v Speaker 3>expect them to be seven to one right now. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the games against Florida, Auburn, Georgia in Miami, those four games,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't expect them to go three and one in

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<v Speaker 3>those games, you know, at best, I was thinking they

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<v Speaker 3>would go too and one of those games and be

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<v Speaker 3>sitting here at six and two and really got missed

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<v Speaker 3>the state too, And they were supposed to be a

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<v Speaker 3>really good team in in the season, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You throw them in and so yeah, I did not

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<v Speaker 2>expect them to be seven and one, probably at best

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<v Speaker 2>six and two. And I would have probably my pick

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<v Speaker 2>would have been something like five and three right now,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So I didn't expect them to be this

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<v Speaker 2>this uh this.

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<v Speaker 3>Strong, you know, and and and I think the real

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<v Speaker 3>big difference, as crazy as it sounds. As a kicker, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they got a Division two kicker transfer to

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<v Speaker 3>come in.

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<v Speaker 2>I think else you missed the most field goals of

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<v Speaker 2>any program in the nation last year.

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<v Speaker 3>They missed eleven, and they got a kicker to come in,

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<v Speaker 3>a transfer kicker. And I said it was Ron says,

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<v Speaker 3>when they get in, so when they get past the

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<v Speaker 3>thirty five yard line, they know they.

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<v Speaker 2>Have three points. And he's been incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's he's really helped them tremendously in pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>Much every game you can look.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he made four field goals in one game

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<v Speaker 3>five and the other he's he made the he made

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<v Speaker 3>the game winning kick against Auburn.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been incredible. And they've always had a good defense

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<v Speaker 2>with Dave Randon.

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<v Speaker 3>When you throw a kicker in in an offense that

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<v Speaker 3>is a little more versatile than it's been in the past,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's throwing some different things out there, you get

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<v Speaker 3>a team that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>On that note, how did the cold Tracy thing happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Not that LSU was out scouring the sort of grad

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<v Speaker 1>transfer market in any sort of shady way, but what

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<v Speaker 1>was there a connection? Was there you know, enthusiasm from

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<v Speaker 1>Cold Tracy in his camp. I guess to get into

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<v Speaker 1>a high level program. You don't see that specific kind

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<v Speaker 1>of jump all that often.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it actually goes back to Los Angeles. Cold Tracy

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<v Speaker 3>is from out in California and LSU's special teams coordinator,

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<v Speaker 3>who had been in the NFL for years, had kind

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<v Speaker 3>of put out feelers that.

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<v Speaker 2>They were looking for a grad transfer. He put out

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<v Speaker 2>some feelers to scouts in NFL, scouts and others.

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<v Speaker 3>And coaches and someone I mean his name, I'm missing

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<v Speaker 3>his name, but he's a special teams coordinator I.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe in Iowa State, and he is.

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<v Speaker 3>He played, he played at USC and he actually played

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<v Speaker 3>under Origeron I believe in the late nineties of Pete

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<v Speaker 3>Carroll Era.

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<v Speaker 2>And so there was that little connection there.

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<v Speaker 3>He and he got he knew of Cold Tracy from California,

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<v Speaker 3>Cold LSU.

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<v Speaker 2>LSU you know, reached out or what not to Assumption.

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<v Speaker 3>College and Cold Tracy at Division two school up in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 3>and boom, you know, he ends up arriving arriving at

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<v Speaker 3>LSU within a few months of being contacted.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was a grad transfer.

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<v Speaker 3>So he plays immediately and he had one year of eligibility,

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, he's been incredible for him. I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>missed two or three field goals. I don't know exactly

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<v Speaker 3>his numbers. He's around twenty twenty two makes something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's been been pretty incredible. Set of LSU

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<v Speaker 3>record made Bob field goals in a game earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was against Missippi State. It's just been, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's been incredible, I really have.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, we'll stay on the topic of grad transfers obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>because a huge story was Joe Burrow's arrival and performance

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<v Speaker 1>thus far. As they've won a lot of games, what

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<v Speaker 1>is the what would you say, is there is there

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<v Speaker 1>a consensus about Joe Burrow's season thus far with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>amongst the people whose eyeballs are most trained on him, coaches, fans,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody in general. Is there a general feeling of like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not the most consistent guy, but he's definitely a

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<v Speaker 1>timely guy and he's ours. Is there any sense like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think you know, what what LSU wanted in

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<v Speaker 3>a quarterback is honestly, it's somebody that they've had in

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<v Speaker 3>the past. As crazy as that sounds they want somebody

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<v Speaker 3>who just manages the game well, doesn't make mistakes. They

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<v Speaker 3>know they have some pretty good skilled players around Joe,

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<v Speaker 3>and they always have a solid running game, even though

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't return a big running back, so they just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of needed that guy with with that so called

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<v Speaker 3>you know, moxie and that leadership skill and that ability

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<v Speaker 3>to make plays with the steel a little bit and

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<v Speaker 3>not turn the ball over. And Joe has checked all

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<v Speaker 3>of those boxes, specifically the leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of moxie box.

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<v Speaker 3>And his numbers aren't great, and they don't, you know, ELSI,

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<v Speaker 3>because because this defense is so good, it's running game

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<v Speaker 3>is always so strong, they don't really need the numbers

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<v Speaker 3>to be great.

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<v Speaker 2>I think deeper into Edwards tenure.

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<v Speaker 3>Here two three years from now, I think you would

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<v Speaker 3>like a quarterback that can make.

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<v Speaker 2>A little more plays and have a little more passing game.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now this is suiting them.

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<v Speaker 3>And Joe hasn't made a lot of turnovers, but more so,

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<v Speaker 3>he's really kind of won the team and he's uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, with his leadership and and just his his

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<v Speaker 3>his ability to be that gritty kind of player who

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<v Speaker 3>in key situations makes plays. So his stats aren't great,

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<v Speaker 3>but in key situations he makes plays and he's got

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of leadership ability. And again across the ball

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<v Speaker 3>from him, the defense is so strong that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>need to go out and be crazy. And he's got

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<v Speaker 3>a great kicker that yeah, that they feel comfortable when

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<v Speaker 3>they cross that thirty five yard line if they have

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<v Speaker 3>at least three points. So all that kind of helps

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<v Speaker 3>him be the player that he is.

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<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned in two three years, because Burrow will

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<v Speaker 1>be back next year, has another year of eligibility in

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<v Speaker 1>two three years, Coach O and the offensive staff imagine

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<v Speaker 1>or picture or have excuse me a vision for what

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps the quarterback of the future looks like for LSU

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<v Speaker 1>or the system the scheme of the future looks like

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<v Speaker 1>for LSU. Are we in a a one point zero

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<v Speaker 1>of this offense with you know, the transition from from

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Canada to Steve Ensminger And if so, what is

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<v Speaker 1>that grand vision? Does this offense look appreciably different in

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<v Speaker 1>two or three years with time?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's it's weird because when when Nano's run took over,

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<v Speaker 3>he preached to having you know, a balanced offense with

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<v Speaker 3>a passing threat that ls who hadn't had in.

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<v Speaker 2>A few years.

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<v Speaker 3>He kind of wanted that, and he wanted more of

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<v Speaker 3>a spread offense. They are slowly slowly making their way

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<v Speaker 3>toward that spread scheme and you can see it. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Saban talked about it earlier this week. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>this is unlike any LSHI team we've ever faced. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't just run the ball over and over again. It

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of a I'm sure he didn't mean it,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was kind of a.

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<v Speaker 2>Slap in the face of Less miles. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is.

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<v Speaker 3>LSU was slowly getting there where they're starting to spread

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<v Speaker 3>the ball out a little more. They're starting to spread

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<v Speaker 3>the field a little more. We're seeing four or five

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<v Speaker 3>receiver sets, We're seeing some spread concepts that Less did

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<v Speaker 3>run a whole lot, and even Edwards running them didn't

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<v Speaker 3>run a whole lot last year or even during his

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<v Speaker 3>interim season. So we're seeing them slowly get toward, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>transitioning the offense from more of an archaic I formation,

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<v Speaker 3>run heavy to this kind of spread deal and it's

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<v Speaker 3>just going.

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<v Speaker 2>To take time, you know. That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like switching a difference from a four to three

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<v Speaker 3>to three four which LSU did also the last few years.

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<v Speaker 3>It takes two or three years to get there, to

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<v Speaker 3>get the personnel, and I think we're slowly seeing that start.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, as far as the quarterback, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the offense too will be dictated on

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback and what they're recruiting for who they get

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<v Speaker 3>in the next few years.

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<v Speaker 2>So still a lot remains to be seen.

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<v Speaker 3>But you can tell this offense and what Saban said

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<v Speaker 3>was really kelling earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>This week and that this is a much different offense.

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<v Speaker 3>They use a lot of different formations.

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<v Speaker 2>They spread you out a little more.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the the defensive shift from a four three

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<v Speaker 1>to three four. Of course under Dave Randa when he

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<v Speaker 1>was hired under previous regime and at Orizron was tasked

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<v Speaker 1>with helping to execute Dave Randa's vision and is now

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Randa's boss, retaining Miranda, who's obviously done a much

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<v Speaker 1>more powerful job, a really good job than anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the dynamic, like, you know, going from somebody

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<v Speaker 1>an assistant in having had Oorzron be hit one of

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<v Speaker 1>his assistants, to now being his boss. What is that

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<v Speaker 1>that interpersonal situation like between coach O and Dave Randa.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great question for Dave Randy if only we

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<v Speaker 2>were able to talk to him around that. As most

0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:46.199
<v Speaker 2>schools shut off their their assistance, LSU does so as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, Dave, I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I've covered the team long enough where I know that

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<v Speaker 3>Dave and Ed's relationship has always been pretty dang good.

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<v Speaker 3>They have been in really the relationship Dave had with

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people, it's really good. Dave is a

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<v Speaker 3>kind of very laid back, chill guy, very kind of quiet,

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<v Speaker 3>cerebral approach to everything, and so he's kind of the

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<v Speaker 3>ying to.

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<v Speaker 2>Edwards runs Yang I mean and his loud, screaming motivational.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're kind of the opposite in in a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of ways. I think that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And they have I think they have they have. The

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<v Speaker 3>marriage between those two has been.

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<v Speaker 2>Been really solid, and you know, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaks to how important Dave Miranda is to this football program.

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<v Speaker 3>When you look back at January and what happened, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Texas and m came in and tried to poach Dave

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<v Speaker 3>and gave you know, throughout a lot of money, and

0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.840
<v Speaker 3>LSU threw out more or just as much. And Dave

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<v Speaker 3>is now the highest paid defensive quarter in the nation

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<v Speaker 3>two and a half million dollars a year, so he

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<v Speaker 3>basically got a million.

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<v Speaker 2>Dollar raise out of that, that out of A and

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<v Speaker 2>M's interest.

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<v Speaker 3>And for unless you to do that, to really pony

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<v Speaker 3>up like that to tell you all you need to

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<v Speaker 3>know about one David D's relationship into how important school

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<v Speaker 3>leaders think, including at Orizon, I think Dave Randa, how

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<v Speaker 3>important Dave A.

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<v Speaker 2>Randa is to this place. They knew they couldn't lose.

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<v Speaker 1>Him in terms of and this is more of the

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<v Speaker 1>micro in terms of developments which I guess position group

0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.760
<v Speaker 1>and really coach an assistant to you has stood out

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<v Speaker 1>in its improvements and success. Really nine weeks in.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, Jerry Sullivan was hired over the offseason.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an old time, longtime.

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<v Speaker 3>Receivers coach in the NFL and he really people around.

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<v Speaker 2>Here kind of rave about him.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a consultant last year and then promoted him

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<v Speaker 3>to It's kind of like a passing game coordinator slash

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<v Speaker 3>receivers coach, and you know from it and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily know if I could tell this from just watching

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<v Speaker 3>video and games and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you just hear about people's talk.

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<v Speaker 3>Around the program about his influence on the receivers, and

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<v Speaker 3>you do see a couple of receivers, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>Justin Jefferson LS who's leading receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was a three three star kid that.

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<v Speaker 3>Barely qualified, joined the team late a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's now, you know, leading LSU. He's the go

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of guy, and for Jerry to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>have molded him has been really impressive. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's he's probably been one of the more

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<v Speaker 3>impressive assistance.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you got to look at Stevensening or two,

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<v Speaker 2>and he hadn't been a full time offensive.

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<v Speaker 3>Coordinator in almost twenty years really, and Edward Ron gave

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<v Speaker 3>him this chance in his home state, both ed and

0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Stever they're pretty close in the boat from Louisiana, and

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<v Speaker 3>he gave him this chance, and you know, he's he's

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<v Speaker 3>been doing a solid guy. I mean, they're not enough

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<v Speaker 3>the scoreboard, but they're doing just enough.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were to look through your mentions on a Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>and really why would you, But if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>to dip into that feed, where do you sense the

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<v Speaker 1>typical LSU fan is most excited and most disappointed with

0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.360
<v Speaker 1>this team. And it's hard to be too disappointed, granted

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<v Speaker 1>with the record and the teams that they've beaten, but

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<v Speaker 1>whe's where's the excitement, where's the disappointment?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, right now, given the Devin White situation, they're most

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<v Speaker 3>disappointed with the SEC offense. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, as far as just the.

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<v Speaker 3>Team, you know, I well, first of all, they had

0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.520
<v Speaker 3>completely rallied behind the new quarterback Joe Burrow in the

0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:45.000
<v Speaker 3>new kicker, Cold Tracy. They know those two people, of

0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:48.600
<v Speaker 3>those two players have been essential to this run.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think, you know, there's a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of my mentions flooded with with with comments about those

0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:57.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, good comments about those two players.

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<v Speaker 2>Where where I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think there could be a struggle is the same spot

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<v Speaker 3>in a lot of ways, that has been a struggle

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<v Speaker 3>here at times and has just been kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>lightning rod throughout college football. Every fan base is the

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line.

0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:17.720
<v Speaker 2>And you see that here. I mean that that's the.

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<v Speaker 3>Offensive line is is is criticized pretty heavily. They've they've

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<v Speaker 3>gone through a lot of injuries here. I think they've

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<v Speaker 3>played I want to say four or five different started

0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.000
<v Speaker 3>four or five different sets of offensive line and in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight games this year, so it's been kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>maligned group.

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<v Speaker 3>So I would probably point to that, you know as maybe,

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<v Speaker 3>uh maybe a weakness somewhat that LSU fans kind of

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<v Speaker 3>jump on the team.

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<v Speaker 1>For fair And I think it was you who did this,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you had retweeted or something, But looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>recent signees at quarterback and what became of them over

0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:58.160
<v Speaker 1>these last few years, because LSU has sort of infamously

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<v Speaker 1>and this isn't necessarily unique to the Tigers, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>been a lot of wash out at quarterback just as

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<v Speaker 1>it's become a very difficult position to evaluate and develop.

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<v Speaker 1>Does the future look brighter with some continuity with Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow for a couple of years that they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to rely on anybody particularly young? What does I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the longer term future at quarterback look like? And is

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<v Speaker 1>there reason for optimism?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, behind Joe is Miles Brennan.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a sophomore, very highly ready to sophomore from the

0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:36.200
<v Speaker 3>Mississippi Coast that many people.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought would probably be the starter this year before Joe

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<v Speaker 2>came in. And so I think there's still.

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<v Speaker 3>Some hope there that that Miles can after Joe leaves

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<v Speaker 3>take over. I think the issue is, you know, if

0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Miles wasn't ready this year and they had to bring

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<v Speaker 3>in Joe, what does.

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<v Speaker 2>That say about Miles.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's there's some maybe some concern there beyond that

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<v Speaker 3>it looks actually not great because you you lost to

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<v Speaker 3>Justin McMillan in.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, his name is escaping me.

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<v Speaker 3>But two quarterbacks trains, two scholarship quarterbacks trans for this summer.

0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.800
<v Speaker 3>So elis she's only got two quarterback, two scholarship quarterbacks on.

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<v Speaker 2>The team right now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Joe and it's Miles and and uh man, it's

0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:26.320
<v Speaker 3>it's uh so you're in a pickle.

0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.800
<v Speaker 2>You you need to sign some quarterbacks. So that is

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<v Speaker 2>all eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>Are kind of on that on the recruiting chair trail,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and it was run has got to get

0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:41.080
<v Speaker 3>himself stocked up there at the quarterback position. We all know,

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<v Speaker 3>uh that that's a position that the attrition.

0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Uh is, is always an issue and it has been

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<v Speaker 2>for l s U.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's come back this summer when when those two

0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.200
<v Speaker 3>players left, so not.

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<v Speaker 2>That they were going to play a whole lot but

0:19:56.000 --> 0:20:00.040
<v Speaker 2>they still added depth. And you know, and if the

0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:04.000
<v Speaker 2>thing is is, you know, Elsie's offense is constantly.

0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Changing, and they haven't really said on on one thing.

0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:11.680
<v Speaker 2>And and you know Steve Innjminer's future and he's he's

0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.240
<v Speaker 2>a little older. You got to wonder how long he's

0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:14.959
<v Speaker 2>he's going to go.

0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:19.480
<v Speaker 3>So I'm not sure if they even know exactly what

0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.480
<v Speaker 3>direction they want to go in the future with a quarterback,

0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:26.600
<v Speaker 3>and so that that's an issue, and that's something that man,

0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.200
<v Speaker 3>that that is that is certainly being watched.

0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:31.919
<v Speaker 2>Is what else she's going to do the future at

0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.919
<v Speaker 2>quarterback or position here? As you mentioned, it's just just

0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:37.320
<v Speaker 2>always maligned. It seems like, do.

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<v Speaker 1>You get the sense that because there seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>more consistency, more job security for ed Orgeron, you know,

0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:47.919
<v Speaker 1>this far into the season, performing like Elis who has

0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:52.600
<v Speaker 1>has thus far, then certainly where Elis who was last year,

0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of this year, you know, the tail end

0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.880
<v Speaker 1>of less miles tenure where rumors sort of dogged him

0:20:57.920 --> 0:20:59.960
<v Speaker 1>for the last couple of two three years about his

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<v Speaker 1>job security. Do you get the feeling that recruits are

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<v Speaker 1>more confident in a more stable LSU moving forward, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Think so, you know, I mean I haven't talked to

0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:13.000
<v Speaker 3>any necessarily, but I would think that they would see

0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:17.119
<v Speaker 3>that there is a more of a stable foundation.

0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:18.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, LSU lost.

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<v Speaker 3>I just did a story on a bunch of recruits

0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:24.600
<v Speaker 3>that LSU has lost Alabama over the years and how

0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:27.320
<v Speaker 3>that a lot of times results in this seven game

0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:30.159
<v Speaker 3>losing streak against the Tide, And one of them was

0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:33.560
<v Speaker 3>this past year. Patrick Hutan, the cornerback from Florida, and

0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:37.159
<v Speaker 3>I remember his dad going on record saying that his

0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:41.159
<v Speaker 3>son basically chose the more stable coach and Nick Staban

0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:43.160
<v Speaker 3>instead of ed Orgeron, where.

0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Everybody thought that.

0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.879
<v Speaker 3>Patrick certain was going to come to LSU had been

0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:51.280
<v Speaker 3>leaning that way for two years or more, and he

0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:55.320
<v Speaker 3>went to Alabama in you know, and I think it

0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:56.920
<v Speaker 3>was all because of the coach's stability.

0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:59.679
<v Speaker 2>So they do lose recruits because of that, and.

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:06.320
<v Speaker 3>I think that prospects should probably start seeing, especially given

0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 3>what's happened the first eight games this year, that things

0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:11.800
<v Speaker 3>are a little more stable around here than maybe they thought.

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:15.639
<v Speaker 1>So LSU currently has more and I looked it up.

0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I did the research. They currently have more out of

0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:23.879
<v Speaker 1>state commits than Louisiana commits. Is that a result of

0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:28.119
<v Speaker 1>a conscious focus shift from the coaches and coach oh

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<v Speaker 1>or is that sort of by chance, because that's not

0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:34.520
<v Speaker 1>that hasn't always been or generally isn't the case when

0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:37.200
<v Speaker 1>you look at these last few classes.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, we actually did like a real big, deep

0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:44.520
<v Speaker 3>deep dive on the last ten years in LSU recruiting.

0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:46.879
<v Speaker 2>And they usually.

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<v Speaker 3>Get about fifty five to six of their signing classes

0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:54.520
<v Speaker 3>are from Louisiana, and so they do go out of

0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:57.000
<v Speaker 3>state more than you might think now that for them

0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:59.080
<v Speaker 3>to be for them to have more out of centers

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:01.080
<v Speaker 3>than Louisiana, and I'll have to go back and look,

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:02.399
<v Speaker 3>but that's rarely happened.

0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:05.280
<v Speaker 2>And I wonder if down the stretch here that won't.

0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:08.119
<v Speaker 3>Even back out and they'll get a few laid Louisiana.

0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:13.359
<v Speaker 3>But you know the thing about ed Oorzron is you

0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 3>know he's they're going to go out and uh while

0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 3>they want to lock down the state and all that,

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:22.320
<v Speaker 3>they're going to go out and get the best players.

0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:25.720
<v Speaker 3>And they've made a focus on East Texas and LSU's

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 3>focused there for a while.

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Houston is a huge hub for them. Uh, the Dallas area,

0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:31.960
<v Speaker 2>all that area.

0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:37.119
<v Speaker 3>They almost they almost view it as in Louisiana and Houston,

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 3>especially that Elshie's biggest alumni, I guess grouping outside of

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Louisiana and Houston, so they go there a lot, and

0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, they want to spread the brand. I think

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Ed wants to spread the brand and maybe.

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:53.399
<v Speaker 2>You're you're seeing that a little bit with the with

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<v Speaker 2>the outside kind of recruits.

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<v Speaker 3>He's you know, getting out and spreading the brand a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously this can change on a dime. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>my last question, but has Coacho won over this fan

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<v Speaker 1>base that is, like any other fan base, pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>always impossible to please.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially down here. It's you know, Les Mils won

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<v Speaker 2>the national.

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<v Speaker 3>Championship in two thousand and seven and LSU and I

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<v Speaker 3>think eight and five the next year in two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and eight, and literally there were people who.

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<v Speaker 2>Wanted him to be fired. And it's just it's crazy here.

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<v Speaker 3>So even a national championship here can't quite save you.

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<v Speaker 3>But you've got at least you gotta at least get there.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the I don't think Ed's gonna win over

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<v Speaker 2>this fan base.

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<v Speaker 3>Until he at least reaches that point where he's playing

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<v Speaker 3>for a championship, whether i'd be the SEC and the

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<v Speaker 3>national championship, and at that point, then the next step

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<v Speaker 3>you have.

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<v Speaker 2>To win it, you know, And until those things happen,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's won.

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<v Speaker 3>Over quite one over any And honestly, beating Alabama is.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge and it's something that you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, cost his predecessor his job less miles and he

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Ed was hired to beat to win championships,

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<v Speaker 3>and to win championships, you gotta beat Alabama. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>a big game and I think Ed could certainly win

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<v Speaker 3>over a little bit of portion of the fan base

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<v Speaker 3>hit if the Tigers were to win Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and here's my actual final question, because I always

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<v Speaker 1>like to finish on food because I'm a dork and

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<v Speaker 1>that's just how I live. You are in Baton Rouge.

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<v Speaker 1>The game of the century, of the millennium is being

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<v Speaker 1>played tomorrow excuse me, in a couple of days as

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<v Speaker 1>we record this on Thursday. But people will be coming in,

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<v Speaker 1>not just to Alabama fans, not Stells fans, fans of

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<v Speaker 1>just big college football atmospheres. Where should they eat in

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<v Speaker 1>Baton Rouge?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, there's just so many great places early are, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean South Louisiana. You know, it's hard to pick one,

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<v Speaker 3>but sure a few Alabama reporters are coming in.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking them.

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<v Speaker 3>And I always take, you know, out out outside reporters

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<v Speaker 3>who come in to this to one place, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>called pot Rands. It's a it's a restaurant on Perkins

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<v Speaker 3>Road in Baton Rouge, and it just very kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the quintessential Louisiana fair in kind of a Louisiana setting.

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<v Speaker 2>They have the you know, all the.

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<v Speaker 3>Gulf seafood, fresh fish and the raw oysters and the

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<v Speaker 3>barbecue kind of oysters, and so it's it's a great place.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I would recommend that the one. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>when you're in Louisiana, you want to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>True South Louisiana food in that setting. And that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good one.

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<v Speaker 1>I just googled it as you were describing it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want nothing more than to go there. That's p

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<v Speaker 1>A R r AI n apostrophe as looks like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a good outdoor area. Holy hell, that looks good. Ross Allinger,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much for your time. Everybody follow Ross

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter if you aren't doing so already what's wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with you? Read his stuff on SI dot com Sports Illustrated. Ross,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much for coming on, and we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to have you on again, all right, thank you? So

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<v Speaker 1>there it is. There it was Ross Ellinger of SI.

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<v Speaker 1>Let us know which team we should do a Homer's

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<v Speaker 1>Only Homers Allowed show about moving forward as we head

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<v Speaker 1>into the stretch run of the season. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>interesting stories and developments about damn near every team in

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<v Speaker 1>college football, so let us know who we should hit

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<v Speaker 1>next with our Only Homers Allowed series. I really enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>doing them because I think I speak for Tie here

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<v Speaker 1>as well. We don't have time to deep dive teams,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on these preview and recap shows, just because

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much action to get into. And also we

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<v Speaker 1>have to talk about Tie almost becoming a weatherman as

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<v Speaker 1>often as possible in getting now I think we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have his forecasts for games, so we're already trying

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<v Speaker 1>to squeeze in a good amount here. So we will

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<v Speaker 1>keep doing these only Homers Allowed shows because we want to.

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<v Speaker 1>And it seems like you like them, at least if

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<v Speaker 1>you like the team we're talking about on that show.

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks again, for listening. We are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>obviously here every Wednesday and Sunday throughout the season and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully keep these shows dropping on Friday morning. So for

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<v Speaker 1>Ty who was not on this show because he definitely

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<v Speaker 1>has a day job that's very secret, and for Ross Ellinger,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much for listening. This is Dan, so

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<v Speaker 1>stay solid and peace.