WEBVTT - Nate and Maria’s 2026 Predictions

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin, Welcome back to Risky Business, a show about making

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<v Speaker 1>better decisions. I'm Maria Kannakova and I'm Nate.

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<v Speaker 2>Silver today on the show. I mean, we have we

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<v Speaker 2>have some news.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not news that you'll be doing cartwheel Silver if

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<v Speaker 3>you're a loyal fan of this show, but yeah, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the last.

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<v Speaker 2>Episode of Risky Business. That's the news.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the news. We have absolutely loved the last

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<v Speaker 1>few years with you guys and Pushkin and iHeart and

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<v Speaker 1>we hope you've enjoyed it as well. And we are

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're both really excited to see what comes next.

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<v Speaker 1>about Risky Business, but also where we will be making

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<v Speaker 1>future announcements about where we head to next. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you've been a loyal listener, we hope you will follow

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<v Speaker 1>us along on the next stage of our journey. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we'd love to Nate. I think before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into the show for this final week, which will

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<v Speaker 1>include a look back at some of the predictions that

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<v Speaker 1>we made last year. This time last year and some

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<v Speaker 1>predictions for twenty twenty six. I think we owe it

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<v Speaker 1>to ourselves to kind of look back at two years

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<v Speaker 1>of Risky Business and what we've kind of accomplished here,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think it's pretty cool that we've been able

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<v Speaker 1>to do this podcast for two years together. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, Look, I think we are trying to carve out

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<v Speaker 3>a niche that's becoming more and more relevant in the world,

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<v Speaker 3>right from like sportscambling scandals.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, prediction markets act that. Like, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>feels more and more like we're in a world where

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<v Speaker 2>if you kind of like sit idly by, then you

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<v Speaker 2>you lose around.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels more and more like I mean, my opinions

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<v Speaker 3>about a progress of waxed and waned over the show.

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<v Speaker 3>We talk about it a lot, but you know, feeling

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<v Speaker 3>like we're marching into a certain future and if you

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<v Speaker 3>are in mid career and have had some success, just

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<v Speaker 3>like maybe not a feeling of profound security necessarily, right,

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<v Speaker 3>We're moving into a world where people are maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Becoming stupider important ways, Like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't sure where that I wasn't sure where that sentence

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I think I think.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm very worried about and the boomers and the boomers

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<v Speaker 4>getting addicted their fucking sub sacks and ship like that,

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<v Speaker 4>and like, I don't know, Maria, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think they're more self righteous.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they used to be adicted to Facebook, which

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<v Speaker 3>was stupid, but like sub second is kind of partisan,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I mean, anyway, you know, the poker world's

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<v Speaker 3>been a little weird.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to talk a little poker, Maria, Sure you so.

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<v Speaker 3>I am supposed to be full disclosure, audience. It's an

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<v Speaker 3>episode is airing in January. We're taping it in late

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<v Speaker 3>December before Christmas. I in fact was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 3>taping this from so called Paradise.

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<v Speaker 1>Nate, tell the audience how you really feel about the

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<v Speaker 1>WSP Paradise stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I attended.

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<v Speaker 3>The World Series of Poker Paradise in Atlantis Resort on

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<v Speaker 3>Paradise Island, which is a sub island of New Providence

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<v Speaker 3>in the Bahamas, and I think I had probably the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>Time that I've had at like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Poker festival, as they're officially called. These poker receivers are

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<v Speaker 3>officially called festivals. Right, Like, nothing bad happened, right, I

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<v Speaker 3>got a couple of nights nights out with a friend

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<v Speaker 3>who was having his birthday. I met some fun people

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<v Speaker 3>at the tables, ranging from NBA legend Tony Parker to

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<v Speaker 3>barstool Nate any other Nate.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm usually a fan. I'm playing against Wright, but number one.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I, I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Felt really confined in this giant resort.

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<v Speaker 3>And furthermore, like there's been a clash between the World

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<v Speaker 3>Poker Tour and the World Series of Poker for the

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<v Speaker 3>slot in mid December.

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<v Speaker 1>And Poker Stars there's ept problem.

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<v Speaker 2>And Poker Stars is an ebt and in product.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, mid December is a really good slot for a

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<v Speaker 3>poker tournament because like, you have to be fucking insane

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<v Speaker 3>to travel in between Thanksgiving and Christmas, and poker players

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<v Speaker 3>are insane, and so we'll, you know, it's a cheap

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<v Speaker 3>time of year actually to travel. So the World Poker

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<v Speaker 3>Tour spun what had once been a relatively sleepy I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was called five Diamond Classic at the Bellagio.

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<v Speaker 3>The Wind began hosting a slot instead put a big

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<v Speaker 3>guarantee out in twenty twenty two, I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen million dollarslew that away people really love that series, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean an even bigger guarantee forty million dollars in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three. And then the World Serio tooker keeam

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<v Speaker 3>and said, well, we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing our thing in.

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<v Speaker 3>The Atlantis. Whin did not hit its guarantee had to

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<v Speaker 3>pay some money out of the wind coffers. And then

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<v Speaker 3>after that World Seriece Houcker's are, well, fuck you, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>guarantee you fifty million dollars in the Bahamas last year,

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<v Speaker 3>and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Except this is a twenty five K actually twenty six

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<v Speaker 3>K tournament and not a ten K, and you can,

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<v Speaker 3>like you can enter the tournament very very often.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, some people were in for thirteen fourteen fifteen bullets.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of re entries. Now think about

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<v Speaker 1>what that means twenty six thousand dollars times fifteen sixteen bullets,

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<v Speaker 1>Like these are expensive tournaments.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, there were what they were like twenty

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred entries, but they were from like one thousand

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<v Speaker 3>ish unique participants, right, so the average person entered almost

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<v Speaker 3>three times, so it was really a seventy eight K

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<v Speaker 3>for them and not a twenty six K, which is

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<v Speaker 3>builds a twenty five k, right, The tables I played

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<v Speaker 3>were despite that pretty good. I booked originally seven nights

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<v Speaker 3>in the Bahamas. Some were covered by casino points, and

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<v Speaker 3>why not shortening that, But like you know, all the

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<v Speaker 3>seven nights I was scheduled there, I probably played, let

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<v Speaker 3>me think, eighteen actual hours of actual poker, when if

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<v Speaker 3>there have been a better schedule, it had.

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<v Speaker 2>The capacity to play fifty hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, which is why n I went to the

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<v Speaker 1>WBT hat the win where the schedule is wonderful. The

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<v Speaker 1>win is one of the best places in the world

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<v Speaker 1>to play poker. Staff is a plus. I love the one.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, this is the end of December. You'll be

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<v Speaker 1>hearing this in early January, so my series is not

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<v Speaker 1>over yet, so I have no idea how it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to go. But even if I end up losing a

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<v Speaker 1>shit ton of money, which actually isn't possible at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>but even if I lose more money than I want to,

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<v Speaker 1>I will be quite happy because this is a great

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<v Speaker 1>time of year in Vegas, and I'm happy to be

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<v Speaker 1>here in ept. Prog by the way, is also amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been there many times. I didn't go this year

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<v Speaker 1>because it's far and it's cold, and Vegas is warm

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<v Speaker 1>and close.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was my that's got to Prague, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>you could have gone to pragu.

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<v Speaker 1>And it would have been a lot better. It would

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<v Speaker 1>have been a lot better.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you bust out, is there a EPT Paris

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<v Speaker 3>this year?

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<v Speaker 1>There is an APT Paris this year? I will be there.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, risky business listeners February Paris.

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<v Speaker 2>So you there, But in Paris you bust that. You're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm almost fucking happy about that. Right, it's going to go.

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<v Speaker 1>We had.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you know, I mean that you know great that

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<v Speaker 3>you almost one of us, but you know, the baas

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<v Speaker 3>is in this like basically compound.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this stopped. This stop was not paradise, is what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing from you. And we hope, at least, I

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<v Speaker 1>sincerely hope that poker will go more in the direction

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<v Speaker 1>of what Poker Stars and WT are doing and less

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<v Speaker 1>in the Paradise direction, and that w s P. I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people did not have a great

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<v Speaker 1>experience this yere and I do want to remind everyone

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<v Speaker 1>listening that at the end of the day, poker is

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<v Speaker 1>a game. If you're not having fun, why are you

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<v Speaker 1>even doing it? So when something isn't fun, just get

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck out of there. So let's let's just uh

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<v Speaker 1>talk about now are let's go into predictions. So we

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<v Speaker 1>we made some predictions last year, so exactly a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>give or take a few days, we made predictions for

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<v Speaker 1>how twenty twenty five was going to go. Nate, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't remember almost any of this. It's so funny, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't remember what predictions we made. I didn't remember

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<v Speaker 1>how we were talking about this. So it's fun It

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<v Speaker 1>was a very different, uh, very different time, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's also very funny to see kind of what topics

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<v Speaker 1>seemed relevant, right, Like seemed like they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the big stories of the year, and it turned

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<v Speaker 1>out the year was very different from what we had

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<v Speaker 1>what we had thought. So we don't have to go

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<v Speaker 1>through every single prediction that we made, but we made

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<v Speaker 1>we made some interesting ones. So first prediction we made,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is actually kind of funny, is we

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<v Speaker 1>were both predicting the highs and lows of bitcoin, and Nate,

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<v Speaker 1>you said it was going to be a one forty high.

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<v Speaker 1>I said one eighty, and then our lows were sixty

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy. We were so wrong, right, Like, our highs

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<v Speaker 1>were are way too high. You were closer, You were closer.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm close. That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>You were closer. Yeah, don't yeah, don't throw.

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<v Speaker 3>Me under This is a good group project. I did

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<v Speaker 3>my part of the project. Well, Marie, don't throw me

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<v Speaker 3>under the bus.

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<v Speaker 1>No, all I met was that our lows were too

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<v Speaker 1>low and our highs were too high.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, look at the history of bit coin.

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<v Speaker 1>Is I was closer on the low because the low

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<v Speaker 1>was seventy eight point five and my low was seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>So come on, we both got this happened half. We

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<v Speaker 1>were correct though, on Trump nominees that how many would

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<v Speaker 1>be rejected or withdraw we said zero, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>in fact zero.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so both predicted two press secretaries in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a limit one.

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<v Speaker 3>Caroline Levett has kept that job at least through the

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<v Speaker 3>late December day in which we're taking this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we go yeah tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>And you were correct that there was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a national emergency to begin mass deportations. I said no,

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<v Speaker 1>and you said yes. I actually, according to the producer's

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<v Speaker 1>my exact language is probably yes. But I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>say no because I don't want him to. My wishful

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<v Speaker 1>thinking did it work? So I tried to manifest it.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not manifest. There was, indeed, a national emergency

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<v Speaker 1>at the border declared. Musk did not become the first trillionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>We both got that right.

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<v Speaker 3>It can close six seventy seven billion as of December

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<v Speaker 3>fifteenth estimates Forbes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, pretty close, pretty close.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, well, you know, you know it shove me

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<v Speaker 2>a three hundred billion.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything above five hundred we round up to a trillion.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the way it works?

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<v Speaker 2>Sixth seedment.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't. We can't do our tournament winnings, at least

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<v Speaker 1>I can't because we're still we're taking this in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of a series format.

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<v Speaker 3>I predicted negative ten thousands for myself, it will be

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<v Speaker 3>this fucking that was within the realm of accurate before

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<v Speaker 3>this fucking Bahamas debacle. And I'm done for the year.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, at least I was directly correct. It would

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<v Speaker 3>be a negative year in tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>Poker, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not done my calculation for the year yet,

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<v Speaker 1>so I cannot answer. My estimate was that I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be up forty five thousand dollars. I'll report

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<v Speaker 1>back when I can. Oh, this was.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, Nate, you got a good bet. Ten thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>You get bet any line in sports, what would you

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<v Speaker 3>bet that? Okay, I'm most say Shane Alexander would win

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<v Speaker 3>the MVP Award, which he did. I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a contrarian take back in January

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<v Speaker 3>probably a.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably, John, did you actually put money on it?

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<v Speaker 2>I've had money in the OKAC thunder a fair bit. Actually.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Good. And this is hilarious because I'm obviously the one

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<v Speaker 1>who awarded the second annual Daniel Kneman Memorial Cognitive Bias

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year Award, and I had predicted that it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be the recency effect, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>indeed what I chose, which is funny. I guess my

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<v Speaker 1>brain was the same way, but I totally forgot that

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<v Speaker 1>this was my prediction, and so this was not a

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<v Speaker 1>self fulfilling prophecy. We cared about TikTok. We don't really

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<v Speaker 1>care about it anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Funny, what's gonna happen to ticktach? I thought it would

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<v Speaker 3>get banned and you didn't. And it didn't get banned

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<v Speaker 3>because Trump, Yes, cynical.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So we both did a long shot bet for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, and Nate yours was about drones.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember those drones were in New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 3>One of three chants that later reporting would say there

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<v Speaker 3>had been something.

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<v Speaker 2>Something we all there and I guess, sir, I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's happened. I don't think there's been

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<v Speaker 3>much reporting on anything apart from no. Yeah, okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but your launchots are supposed to lose most

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<v Speaker 3>of the time, right, you call with pocket force. You're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to flop a set all that often.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's very true. My lawn shot was that twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five will be the year that we see a

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear power resurgence. Countries that had brought the plants offline,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll bring them back online. We'll see the first nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>power plants open because of increased energy needs due to AI.

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of right. So this is starting to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of the plants are on track, and

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<v Speaker 1>we see a lot of nuclear plant opening scheduled for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six. So I was directionally correct, but it

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't happened yet. The process has started, but the plants

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<v Speaker 1>are not actually open yet. So yeah, but mine was

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<v Speaker 1>I think less of a long shot than yours.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a little, a little little, a little safe there, Maria.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, back a year ago, I think

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<v Speaker 1>people were people including you, did not think that nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>power was going to be as big as as it's

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<v Speaker 1>now becoming. So it was still somewhat contrarian.

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll be right back after this break.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go to twenty twenty six, and let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some predictions for twenty twenty six. So, Nate,

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<v Speaker 1>where do you want to start. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some politics predictions? Do you want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about sports? Ai, what's what's on your mind? We've got

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<v Speaker 1>some predictions in all these different categories.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess politics.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's start with politics.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to an election year.

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<v Speaker 3>We are, indeed, so if you're hearing this, probably twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome your election year. It never set exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to an election year. Yeah, it seems like it's

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<v Speaker 1>been one giant election year. Nate. I am going to

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<v Speaker 1>seed the political prediction ground to you because all I

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<v Speaker 1>know is what I read in the news. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any insider models. Insider info you do, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what you do. You build these models.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have inside because I think insider info makes you.

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<v Speaker 1>Stupider well not insider info, but you have the models

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<v Speaker 1>that can actually process this information in a more data.

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<v Speaker 3>We're still a few months from the models being turned

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<v Speaker 3>back on. But look, I think Democrats are pretty heavy

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<v Speaker 3>favorites to take the House in the neighborhood of.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty five percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was going to say the same thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I do. Think they're going to retake the House. Are

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<v Speaker 1>we gonna What do we think about the Senate?

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Senate is plausible for Democrats, but like

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<v Speaker 3>but like, but not like, I mean, what do they

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<v Speaker 3>have to win?

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<v Speaker 2>They have to win four seats.

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<v Speaker 3>And so there are two that in principle are quote

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<v Speaker 3>unquote easy, which are main in North Carolina. In North Carolina, Cooper,

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<v Speaker 3>the former governor, is running.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a swing state.

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<v Speaker 3>So you think the formula would be no incumbent, strong

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<v Speaker 3>Democratic candidate usually in midterms, the environment and you can

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<v Speaker 3>look at like the generic ballot or Trump's pool ratings

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<v Speaker 3>usually as Democratics. So like, mathematically that should favor Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>in you know, Susan Collins has survived difficult electoral environments

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<v Speaker 3>before war. Democrats are having a big fight in their

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<v Speaker 3>primary between Graham Platner the the populist oyster fishermen who, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>unfortunately this happens to the best of us, unfortunately got

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<v Speaker 3>a tattoo that some people might argue resembles a symbol

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<v Speaker 3>used by a division, a Nazi Panzer division.

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<v Speaker 2>The Nazis, of course, were a group of Germans during

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<v Speaker 2>World War Two who didn't preicre like Jews or any

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<v Speaker 2>other people who weren't Rian. But you know, look it happens. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, look, I mean, what can you say? It happens.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a little drunk in Croatia.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's like, look at this fucking Bahamas tournament, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I was bored enough. It's like fucking fire.

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<v Speaker 3>Another bullet was twenty five k go get like a tattoo.

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<v Speaker 3>If those are the choices, I might have wound up

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<v Speaker 3>with a tattoo myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Maria, Well, we're.

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<v Speaker 1>We're glad that there was a third option. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so we've got we've got a likely house retake, less likely.

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<v Speaker 3>At the at pollm markets when we're taping this. It's

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<v Speaker 3>seventy eight in the House for Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's low. I would take the over on that.

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<v Speaker 3>In the Senate it's thirty five percent for Democrats. That

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<v Speaker 3>seemed roughly reasonable to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that that makes sense. Thirty five percent is not zero,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A long way from zero. It's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's the cherry. Yeah, it's it's very it's

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<v Speaker 1>very plausible. So what would how about uh, egg prices,

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<v Speaker 1>that's very that's funny political we can have.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know it. Our producers suggested it. I look,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really eat the many eggs, not really go

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<v Speaker 3>shotting for eggs. I'm probably the wrong person to ask

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<v Speaker 3>about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, well, it depends obviously on diseases and all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of things. Let's say the highest egg prices in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six will be twelve dollars for a dozen eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea it's going to be my prediction.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say that's a dollar an egg, Nate, That's that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say. Eleven nine is the person is right? Shit,

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I love gts this is GTO.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is this is the GTO. So we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to give you a GTO lesson on the prices. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>do you're the over under when you see people on

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<v Speaker 1>that game who actually don't know how to play, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and someone already guesses a number, and what are you

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to guess after that night?

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<v Speaker 2>You're supposed to guess a dollar under? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you just do not want to be the

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<v Speaker 1>person who if you can't go over. Yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a it's an interesting game theoretical lesson in

0:20:22.324 --> 0:20:25.124
<v Speaker 1>all of these games. I don't watch quiz show games,

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<v Speaker 1>but they all have game theory that you should study

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<v Speaker 1>if you're ever going to be on one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think anyone's going to be prosecuted with regards

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<v Speaker 1>to the Epstein files, I actually do not. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that this is oh maybe a Democrat, but this has

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<v Speaker 1>to be a prosecution that actually goes forward. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, the.

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<v Speaker 2>GP eventually did sign a dispatch petition. I mean, people are.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I'd say prosecuted by who? By the federal government? Right,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess No.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just too messy for Trump to like actually, like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a little too cavalier for for him to like

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<v Speaker 3>target a Democrat. I mean I don't know, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>just think it feels like then you're encouraging people to

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<v Speaker 3>discuss that story, which I think the White House does

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<v Speaker 3>not want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's correct. That's why I think now sports, well,

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<v Speaker 1>which league, Nate, we'll have a major gambling scandal next?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, are we allowed to say that, like they'll

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<v Speaker 1>also be repeats because I think that the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or do we have to pick a league that hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>had a gambling scandal because I feel like at this point, like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see these everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. I think college sports are are.

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<v Speaker 3>Right for because they're like some of these students are

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<v Speaker 3>now making money with nil deals, but like they're you know,

0:21:56.964 --> 0:22:00.564
<v Speaker 3>there have valuable information that there's a lot of volume

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<v Speaker 3>in college football college basketball betting. Right, these kids are

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<v Speaker 3>not professionals, they could use some income and like ye, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that seems to me almost statistically and there

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<v Speaker 3>are more teams than in the pros. Yeah, it seems

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<v Speaker 3>to be almost like statistically inevitable at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, absolutely, absolutely, whenever you have such a misalignment of

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<v Speaker 1>incentives right where you can make a lot more money

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<v Speaker 1>than you're making from from something that might be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit not as above board as one would hope.

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<v Speaker 1>There's going to be there's going to be a scandal.

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<v Speaker 1>We see that in professional sports where athletes are underpaid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's why there's so much cheating in tennis, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>because in tennis, you know, the top of the profession

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<v Speaker 1>is paid very well, but there's so many players, right

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<v Speaker 1>who are not that who are not that well compensated.

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<v Speaker 1>And tennis is expensive. You have to travel, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do you know, there are lots and lots of

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<v Speaker 1>expenses for this, and unless you're at the very top,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just not going to make a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>And so people are incentivized to, you know, to cheat.

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<v Speaker 1>They can because if you're playing singles, especially like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so easy, right, you can actually throw matches, like, you

0:23:15.284 --> 0:23:19.164
<v Speaker 1>can manipulate serves, you can do so many different things

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<v Speaker 1>to get money. And if you're being paid nothing, but

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<v Speaker 1>the prediction markets and the betting markets and the sports

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<v Speaker 1>betting markets are so high, right, and there's so much

0:23:28.404 --> 0:23:32.364
<v Speaker 1>potential volume, there so much money there. Then you have

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<v Speaker 1>this misalignment that is going to cause scandals, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that's very very true in the college arena as well. So, Nate,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I think that's a good, good prediction, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually surprised that we haven't had a huge one yet,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that that's probably because the rules have

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<v Speaker 1>only started to shift now and a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>betting opportunities didn't exist before.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's remember if to the except there are these scandals,

0:23:56.564 --> 0:23:59.324
<v Speaker 3>the leagues aren't thrilled to have them come up, right,

0:23:59.364 --> 0:24:01.404
<v Speaker 3>So you don't know what's kind of going on and

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<v Speaker 3>being handled with quiet suspensions below the radar and things

0:24:05.004 --> 0:24:08.084
<v Speaker 3>like that. But like it's hard to imagine that and

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<v Speaker 3>given what you've seen in the NBA, and college has

0:24:10.764 --> 0:24:14.484
<v Speaker 3>traditionally been kind of a source of point shaving, dating

0:24:14.524 --> 0:24:16.924
<v Speaker 3>back to like the Boston College scandal of the seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, do you have any other sports ones that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about other than let's give you

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand dollars again?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, I think I think the OKAC Thunder

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<v Speaker 3>are once again a good season long bet.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:24:33.724 --> 0:24:35.124
<v Speaker 2>They have started out their season.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're twenty four and two, have the best

0:24:37.724 --> 0:24:41.644
<v Speaker 3>point differentiate in basketball history, beating the record from last year.

0:24:41.684 --> 0:24:43.924
<v Speaker 3>Have done this with various injuries because they like, you know,

0:24:44.084 --> 0:24:46.404
<v Speaker 3>if you divide that team in half, they would both

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<v Speaker 3>be top four playoff seeds in the West. And like,

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<v Speaker 3>it just seems like it's never easy money in the NBA.

0:24:54.044 --> 0:24:56.724
<v Speaker 3>Their half court offense is merely good. That becomes more

0:24:56.724 --> 0:24:59.404
<v Speaker 3>important the place postseason. But like, but yeah, I know

0:24:59.684 --> 0:25:03.364
<v Speaker 3>this seems like a a I know it's not easy money,

0:25:03.364 --> 0:25:07.084
<v Speaker 3>but like, I think they're above fifty percent to win

0:25:07.124 --> 0:25:08.524
<v Speaker 3>the championship, is my view.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what you would bet your ten thousand dollars on.

0:25:12.604 --> 0:25:14.684
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, look, it would depend on Yeah, I

0:25:14.684 --> 0:25:16.524
<v Speaker 3>think I think they'd be a good use of I

0:25:16.564 --> 0:25:18.084
<v Speaker 3>don't know what the odds are, actually, I should look

0:25:18.124 --> 0:25:21.924
<v Speaker 3>that up. It's about fifty to fifty in the betting markets, right.

0:25:21.844 --> 0:25:23.244
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it is a good So it would be

0:25:23.244 --> 0:25:25.004
<v Speaker 1>a good use of your money, right if it's fifty

0:25:25.004 --> 0:25:28.764
<v Speaker 1>to fifty. Yeah, and you have a strong conviction one way.

0:25:29.364 --> 0:25:37.244
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's do it. We'll be back right after this.

0:25:47.084 --> 0:25:49.244
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's let's move on to AI, which is

0:25:49.244 --> 0:25:54.044
<v Speaker 1>something I actually know more about than sports. Over under

0:25:54.124 --> 0:25:59.644
<v Speaker 1>on Sora manifesting a major news event. So Sorah makes

0:25:59.684 --> 0:26:02.404
<v Speaker 1>a video which is a fake AI video, and then

0:26:02.604 --> 0:26:05.804
<v Speaker 1>the shit that's in the video actually happens. I mean,

0:26:05.884 --> 0:26:08.844
<v Speaker 1>I think that there's a decent chance of that.

0:26:11.644 --> 0:26:12.684
<v Speaker 2>How is this defined?

0:26:13.684 --> 0:26:15.844
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I guess we get to define it, right,

0:26:15.884 --> 0:26:21.684
<v Speaker 1>this is our prediction. So defining there's something, well, first

0:26:21.764 --> 0:26:24.204
<v Speaker 1>major news event, right, so it can't be something minor

0:26:24.444 --> 0:26:27.644
<v Speaker 1>like oh, there's going to be a protest on you know,

0:26:27.724 --> 0:26:31.884
<v Speaker 1>Madison Avenue. Okay, fine, like that. That's not that that's

0:26:31.924 --> 0:26:36.204
<v Speaker 1>not a major news event, but something like, you know,

0:26:36.324 --> 0:26:40.964
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be I don't know, military coup. Well,

0:26:40.964 --> 0:26:44.004
<v Speaker 1>that would definitely be a major news event. But let's

0:26:44.084 --> 0:26:45.644
<v Speaker 1>let's hope Sory doesn't manifest anything.

0:26:45.644 --> 0:26:47.244
<v Speaker 2>I wonder have you seen.

0:26:48.724 --> 0:26:57.044
<v Speaker 3>These AI generated clips of where a fat person carries

0:26:57.124 --> 0:27:01.604
<v Speaker 3>a boulder onto a glass bridge right or into like

0:27:01.644 --> 0:27:05.244
<v Speaker 3>an infinity pool and then like jump on it to

0:27:05.324 --> 0:27:08.404
<v Speaker 3>destabilize the bridge and cause everyone to fall down into

0:27:08.404 --> 0:27:11.724
<v Speaker 3>the canyon of the river or whatever. Have you seen these?

0:27:12.444 --> 0:27:13.924
<v Speaker 1>I have not seen these. NT.

0:27:14.044 --> 0:27:15.564
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you're talking about.

0:27:16.404 --> 0:27:19.284
<v Speaker 3>I know what makes you seem crazy, but it's a

0:27:19.564 --> 0:27:22.644
<v Speaker 3>genre of these videos, right, you know, so.

0:27:22.644 --> 0:27:24.844
<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm like, will there actually be copycats?

0:27:25.484 --> 0:27:29.164
<v Speaker 1>Are you seeing a therapist? Do we need to talk

0:27:29.204 --> 0:27:30.124
<v Speaker 1>about this?

0:27:30.124 --> 0:27:32.324
<v Speaker 2>This is a real thing, I mean, a real effect thing.

0:27:32.764 --> 0:27:35.284
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying is like, it's interesting.

0:27:35.324 --> 0:27:36.604
<v Speaker 3>This is like one of the first thing is kind

0:27:36.604 --> 0:27:39.924
<v Speaker 3>of like emerge out of the randomness of AI models,

0:27:40.004 --> 0:27:42.484
<v Speaker 3>right and become kind of viral. I believe you have

0:27:42.564 --> 0:27:45.284
<v Speaker 3>you maybe you're not star have time on on on

0:27:45.604 --> 0:27:48.324
<v Speaker 3>X the everything platform, what does Helene call it?

0:27:50.164 --> 0:27:51.444
<v Speaker 1>That is most certainly true.

0:27:51.524 --> 0:27:54.284
<v Speaker 3>I would, you know, maybe I'll see some copycat attempts

0:27:54.324 --> 0:27:58.644
<v Speaker 3>to like to turn memes real that are originally.

0:27:58.284 --> 0:28:00.764
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that's that's that's an interesting I mean, I

0:28:01.004 --> 0:28:04.244
<v Speaker 1>think that there's a very good shot at that happening.

0:28:04.524 --> 0:28:07.084
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, I want to applaud myself on

0:28:07.524 --> 0:28:11.604
<v Speaker 1>saying not interested, not from me, not interested, not interested

0:28:11.724 --> 0:28:14.044
<v Speaker 1>enough on X that I don't get any of these

0:28:14.084 --> 0:28:18.964
<v Speaker 1>in my feet, so I get very few viral videos.

0:28:19.604 --> 0:28:25.444
<v Speaker 1>So I applaud my brain for for not being exposed

0:28:25.444 --> 0:28:30.244
<v Speaker 1>to at least that matter of slop. But there are

0:28:30.284 --> 0:28:34.204
<v Speaker 1>some viral videos that look incredibly real and that have

0:28:34.924 --> 0:28:38.564
<v Speaker 1>actually been used by real news organizations and by the

0:28:38.604 --> 0:28:41.804
<v Speaker 1>president obviously. So I think that there will be more

0:28:41.884 --> 0:28:44.844
<v Speaker 1>and more of that happening. Right where you have these

0:28:45.084 --> 0:28:51.244
<v Speaker 1>very plausible seeming videos. There was one one that went

0:28:51.364 --> 0:28:55.244
<v Speaker 1>viral which was a street interview in New York about

0:28:55.724 --> 0:28:59.524
<v Speaker 1>I think it was about Snap benefits and that went

0:28:59.604 --> 0:29:02.364
<v Speaker 1>viral and was picked up by actual media, and the

0:29:02.404 --> 0:29:04.604
<v Speaker 1>people didn't exist, right, It was a fake interview or

0:29:04.604 --> 0:29:08.164
<v Speaker 1>a fake interviewee, fake interview, fake everything. And I think

0:29:08.164 --> 0:29:09.724
<v Speaker 1>we're going to be seeing a lot more of that,

0:29:09.884 --> 0:29:14.524
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of craft the character that fits your storyline, right,

0:29:14.724 --> 0:29:17.284
<v Speaker 1>give them the dialogue that you think this type of

0:29:17.284 --> 0:29:20.004
<v Speaker 1>person should be saying, and here you go, here's a

0:29:20.084 --> 0:29:24.844
<v Speaker 1>video which is going to I think upset the balance

0:29:25.084 --> 0:29:28.764
<v Speaker 1>of how we consume news and how we can figure

0:29:28.764 --> 0:29:32.284
<v Speaker 1>out what is and isn't real, right, Like, are you

0:29:32.484 --> 0:29:35.364
<v Speaker 1>able to use video as proof that something did or

0:29:35.364 --> 0:29:39.564
<v Speaker 1>it did not happen and in the absence of sophisticated

0:29:39.604 --> 0:29:42.964
<v Speaker 1>technology to detect if something is real or fake, which

0:29:43.484 --> 0:29:46.844
<v Speaker 1>exists but not in the general viewers. You know, it's

0:29:46.884 --> 0:29:48.884
<v Speaker 1>not like I can see a video and immediately be like, oh,

0:29:48.964 --> 0:29:51.164
<v Speaker 1>this is fake, this is real. The better they get,

0:29:51.164 --> 0:29:54.964
<v Speaker 1>the less able, the just average user is to be

0:29:55.044 --> 0:29:58.724
<v Speaker 1>able to detect that. What we know from psychology is

0:29:58.724 --> 0:30:00.684
<v Speaker 1>that once you're exposed to it, even if it's then

0:30:00.724 --> 0:30:04.284
<v Speaker 1>debunked as fake, the you know, the effects linger right,

0:30:04.484 --> 0:30:08.884
<v Speaker 1>It's not like it magically disappears from your brain. It's

0:30:08.924 --> 0:30:11.724
<v Speaker 1>still kind of has this Oh but it's kind of

0:30:11.764 --> 0:30:15.004
<v Speaker 1>real type of primacy. And I think we're gonna be

0:30:15.044 --> 0:30:15.484
<v Speaker 1>so we talked.

0:30:15.524 --> 0:30:17.724
<v Speaker 2>I don't fast it much here. So like, yeah, when

0:30:18.284 --> 0:30:20.524
<v Speaker 2>Charlie Kirk was killed.

0:30:20.724 --> 0:30:23.924
<v Speaker 3>Uh, the assassin was someone who had grown up in

0:30:23.924 --> 0:30:28.884
<v Speaker 3>a conservative family but had become more more left wing

0:30:29.284 --> 0:30:32.044
<v Speaker 3>over time. But like you know, you know, people like

0:30:33.084 --> 0:30:38.004
<v Speaker 3>Helicos Richardson, the most prominent substacker, right kind of spread

0:30:38.004 --> 0:30:40.284
<v Speaker 3>misinformation or she didn't, And there's no kind of right

0:30:40.484 --> 0:30:44.364
<v Speaker 3>spread misinformation speculing that he was a griper, meaning somebody

0:30:44.444 --> 0:30:46.884
<v Speaker 3>who thought that like a Nick Finis type, who thought

0:30:46.884 --> 0:30:50.284
<v Speaker 3>that like Charlie Kirk wasn't conservative enough, it wasn't pure enough, right,

0:30:50.364 --> 0:30:54.284
<v Speaker 3>and that was just total misinformation. But like Jimmy Kimmel

0:30:54.564 --> 0:30:59.124
<v Speaker 3>said something similar, right in like polls of Democrats or

0:30:59.124 --> 0:31:01.284
<v Speaker 3>actually general voters, like a lot of people, if you

0:31:01.364 --> 0:31:04.404
<v Speaker 3>survey them, think that Charlie Kirk's killer was actually a

0:31:04.444 --> 0:31:08.084
<v Speaker 3>conservative Many people think that, so like, yeah, it is.

0:31:08.204 --> 0:31:09.004
<v Speaker 2>It is hard to debunk.

0:31:09.124 --> 0:31:11.124
<v Speaker 3>So like, so I've just in a situation where I'm like,

0:31:11.524 --> 0:31:13.324
<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like I have anybody to trust on

0:31:13.364 --> 0:31:15.004
<v Speaker 3>certain types of stories right now.

0:31:15.084 --> 0:31:18.044
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And I think that that problem is

0:31:18.084 --> 0:31:20.564
<v Speaker 1>going to get only worse. I think that that's a

0:31:20.604 --> 0:31:24.164
<v Speaker 1>prediction that we can stand behind for for this coming year.

0:31:24.884 --> 0:31:27.004
<v Speaker 1>Who do you think will have the best AI model

0:31:27.404 --> 0:31:31.004
<v Speaker 1>by the end of the year. So this time next year,

0:31:31.084 --> 0:31:34.604
<v Speaker 1>which of the AI models is going to which company

0:31:34.644 --> 0:31:35.964
<v Speaker 1>is going to be ahead.

0:31:35.964 --> 0:31:38.244
<v Speaker 2>As judged by like general consensus or.

0:31:38.284 --> 0:31:42.044
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, I think so, I guess anthropic.

0:31:42.604 --> 0:31:44.964
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, you can make a contrarian case.

0:31:45.004 --> 0:31:49.364
<v Speaker 3>So right now, I think the consensus of like super

0:31:49.404 --> 0:31:51.164
<v Speaker 3>AI super user nerds would.

0:31:50.964 --> 0:31:53.724
<v Speaker 2>Say probably Claude.

0:31:54.244 --> 0:31:59.124
<v Speaker 3>But people seem to like GPT five point two so far,

0:31:59.124 --> 0:32:03.124
<v Speaker 3>which was a pretty rapid progression from five point one.

0:32:03.444 --> 0:32:06.124
<v Speaker 3>Open AI has the most resources. You know, people seem

0:32:06.164 --> 0:32:09.844
<v Speaker 3>to think that Gemini is very literal I need, but

0:32:09.924 --> 0:32:11.684
<v Speaker 3>a very good model.

0:32:11.724 --> 0:32:15.004
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't put anything past Google. I don't know, maybe

0:32:15.044 --> 0:32:20.844
<v Speaker 2>up in AI is like undervalued resources they have.

0:32:21.484 --> 0:32:23.604
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with Google Deep Mind. I think that

0:32:23.644 --> 0:32:28.084
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be the winners at the end of this year. Okay,

0:32:28.404 --> 0:32:31.884
<v Speaker 1>in dumbest with trust, I wonder if you're a little rescued.

0:32:31.964 --> 0:32:34.804
<v Speaker 2>But no people, but it's you know, I'll go with Claude.

0:32:34.844 --> 0:32:37.364
<v Speaker 1>I guess all right, let's uh, do do you want

0:32:37.364 --> 0:32:41.684
<v Speaker 1>to do one New York specific one zoron? Uh? What

0:32:41.764 --> 0:32:43.604
<v Speaker 1>do we think? Do you wanna do you wanna do

0:32:43.644 --> 0:32:46.244
<v Speaker 1>a zoron prediction or do you want to just see

0:32:46.244 --> 0:32:46.804
<v Speaker 1>what happens?

0:32:46.884 --> 0:32:48.364
<v Speaker 2>Well you get his free buses this year?

0:32:51.204 --> 0:32:55.524
<v Speaker 1>Uh? Maybe maybe I don't think so, though I give

0:32:55.524 --> 0:32:57.284
<v Speaker 1>it like a I'll get it. I'll give it a

0:32:57.324 --> 0:32:58.484
<v Speaker 1>thirty five per chance.

0:32:59.164 --> 0:33:02.084
<v Speaker 2>So one free. But I think there'll be a pilot program, right,

0:33:02.164 --> 0:33:03.084
<v Speaker 2>because who can not.

0:33:03.244 --> 0:33:04.684
<v Speaker 1>The entire city.

0:33:05.284 --> 0:33:12.964
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they'll make like a second avenue by free or something. Right, Yeah,

0:33:13.004 --> 0:33:15.284
<v Speaker 3>they'll make a couple of buses free, I predict, and

0:33:15.284 --> 0:33:15.884
<v Speaker 3>we'll see how it go.

0:33:15.924 --> 0:33:16.244
<v Speaker 1>All right.

0:33:16.564 --> 0:33:18.004
<v Speaker 2>I'm not that I post the free buses.

0:33:18.524 --> 0:33:19.684
<v Speaker 1>No, I think it's a great idea.

0:33:20.004 --> 0:33:20.924
<v Speaker 2>I think it's early today.

0:33:21.004 --> 0:33:24.204
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but like I mean, the problem is, like you

0:33:24.244 --> 0:33:27.604
<v Speaker 3>give people who want to sit and ride a bus

0:33:27.604 --> 0:33:29.444
<v Speaker 3>all day and an opportunity to do that, you know what

0:33:29.484 --> 0:33:29.804
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

0:33:30.164 --> 0:33:32.364
<v Speaker 2>This might not be people you want on the bus necessarily,

0:33:32.644 --> 0:33:34.364
<v Speaker 2>but yeah.

0:33:33.764 --> 0:33:35.324
<v Speaker 1>Well I think that. I think that a lot of

0:33:35.324 --> 0:33:37.564
<v Speaker 1>places have tried it, not a lot, A few places

0:33:37.564 --> 0:33:40.284
<v Speaker 1>have tried it and it's worked pretty well so and

0:33:40.364 --> 0:33:43.484
<v Speaker 1>it might help with congestion. So let's see. Yeah, let's

0:33:43.524 --> 0:33:47.804
<v Speaker 1>see what happens, all right, Nate, do you think that, well,

0:33:47.844 --> 0:33:49.164
<v Speaker 1>how many days do you think you're going to make

0:33:49.164 --> 0:33:50.564
<v Speaker 1>it in the WSOP Maine event?

0:33:51.124 --> 0:33:54.364
<v Speaker 2>So it was five this year and six two years ago?

0:33:54.804 --> 0:33:56.084
<v Speaker 2>I guess two before?

0:33:56.164 --> 0:33:59.324
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean the median the median is three, And

0:33:59.524 --> 0:34:01.804
<v Speaker 3>I do think now, I do think there is some

0:34:03.564 --> 0:34:06.484
<v Speaker 3>particular advantage in that tournament if you've played it a

0:34:06.484 --> 0:34:10.844
<v Speaker 3>lot and run deep before, right, But it would be

0:34:11.484 --> 0:34:15.644
<v Speaker 3>you know, the correct answer, siskally is is two or three?

0:34:15.764 --> 0:34:17.964
<v Speaker 3>And I think I'm I think three is probably the

0:34:18.004 --> 0:34:21.564
<v Speaker 3>actually correct answer, And I think to predict four or

0:34:21.604 --> 0:34:24.644
<v Speaker 3>more would be quite arrogant and unrealistic.

0:34:25.924 --> 0:34:28.764
<v Speaker 1>When how many days does it last? When it's the

0:34:28.804 --> 0:34:32.284
<v Speaker 1>final table, it's nine days?

0:34:32.324 --> 0:34:33.524
<v Speaker 2>Nine or ten? Yeah?

0:34:33.884 --> 0:34:35.684
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I'm going to predict I make it to

0:34:35.764 --> 0:34:39.844
<v Speaker 1>day ten. Okay, I'm gonna manifest it. I'm manifested it.

0:34:40.564 --> 0:34:45.244
<v Speaker 1>I fuck it, fuck it, Nate. So I'm I'm making

0:34:45.244 --> 0:34:48.004
<v Speaker 1>the final table this year. You know, Leo did it

0:34:48.084 --> 0:34:50.324
<v Speaker 1>last year. She was a great guest on this podcast,

0:34:51.364 --> 0:34:54.564
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's it's you know, the time for

0:34:54.804 --> 0:34:57.204
<v Speaker 1>and Chrissy almost did it the year before. So I

0:34:57.204 --> 0:35:00.484
<v Speaker 1>think women women have been getting further and further, so

0:35:00.564 --> 0:35:03.684
<v Speaker 1>this year, why not me for our last episode? If

0:35:03.724 --> 0:35:06.404
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to make a prediction, I you know, if

0:35:06.444 --> 0:35:08.684
<v Speaker 1>there's a less than one percent chance, that's still fine.

0:35:08.804 --> 0:35:16.124
<v Speaker 1>I am vision board manifesting. So on that note, let's

0:35:16.164 --> 0:35:19.844
<v Speaker 1>just end the predictions with me winning the doublesp made event.

0:35:19.844 --> 0:35:21.764
<v Speaker 1>I think that's it's a great one, or at least

0:35:21.804 --> 0:35:23.924
<v Speaker 1>final tabling. I'm not gonna get too ergon. I don't

0:35:23.964 --> 0:35:26.204
<v Speaker 1>have to win it our final table. I'd like to

0:35:26.244 --> 0:35:29.004
<v Speaker 1>win it, but final tabling, you know, I'll take it.

0:35:29.044 --> 0:35:30.404
<v Speaker 1>I'll take it, you know.

0:35:30.364 --> 0:35:33.244
<v Speaker 2>I would take it. I take a day seven. How

0:35:33.244 --> 0:35:33.604
<v Speaker 2>about that?

0:35:34.204 --> 0:35:34.564
<v Speaker 4>All right?

0:35:34.804 --> 0:35:38.964
<v Speaker 1>Sounds good? And with that, thank you Risky Business listeners

0:35:39.004 --> 0:35:43.084
<v Speaker 1>for being an amazing audience and again follow us on

0:35:43.124 --> 0:35:47.084
<v Speaker 1>our substacks and stay tuned for more news about where

0:35:47.164 --> 0:35:48.884
<v Speaker 1>Nate and I will be heading next.

0:35:49.124 --> 0:35:51.444
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess the end has to come somewhat awkwardly here.

0:35:51.884 --> 0:35:54.684
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, at the end, I don't know if you know,

0:35:54.484 --> 0:35:57.484
<v Speaker 3>if you want to like sing a theme song or

0:35:57.724 --> 0:35:58.724
<v Speaker 3>no or whatever, you.

0:35:58.804 --> 0:36:02.644
<v Speaker 1>Know, absolutely not you can sing, Nate, I'm gonna I'm

0:36:02.644 --> 0:36:03.364
<v Speaker 1>gonna listen.

0:36:03.124 --> 0:36:07.564
<v Speaker 3>All the memories all alone, and I don't even know

0:36:07.644 --> 0:36:08.364
<v Speaker 3>what song that is.

0:36:09.084 --> 0:36:16.324
<v Speaker 1>Thanks, We're ending on an Andrew Lloyd Weber classic flop.

0:36:16.684 --> 0:36:19.444
<v Speaker 3>Let's do not like not like musicals. By the way,

0:36:19.444 --> 0:36:21.204
<v Speaker 3>don't get any wrong ideas.

0:36:23.604 --> 0:36:23.964
<v Speaker 4>All right.

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