Speaker 1: Welcome.
Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with
Speaker 2: your Senator. We had planned on doing a deep dive today,
Speaker 2: and we'd promised many people on Monday's pod that we
Speaker 2: were going to get into some of the Biden crime
Speaker 2: family subpoena isn't what had happened. We are going to
Speaker 2: push that to Friday, purposely because we're expecting some new
Speaker 2: breaking news on that, and also in light of what
Speaker 2: has happened in the Senate today, I want to talk
Speaker 2: about this vote that happened where every single Senate Democrat
Speaker 2: just voted to block aid to Israel on a day
Speaker 2: when two hundred thousand plus came to the steps of
Speaker 2: the capital to support Israel. This was shocking that every
Speaker 2: one of them said no.
Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. Today was a momentace day. And look,
Speaker 3: I spent this afternoon down at the mall with the
Speaker 3: March for Israel, and we had hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 3: people from all over America descend on Washington and stand
Speaker 3: together for Israel, and it was inspirational. I spent a
Speaker 3: lot of time down there just hugging people and encouraging
Speaker 3: them and taking pictures and saying thank you and the
Speaker 3: spirit of unity. I mean, we've seen over the last month,
Speaker 3: the nastiness we've seen, the vicious anti Semitism, we've seen,
Speaker 3: the hatred for Israel we've seen has been really horrifying.
Speaker 3: And the March for Israel was spectacular to be a
Speaker 3: part of. And then after that I came back to
Speaker 3: Capitol Hill and a group of us, a group of
Speaker 3: Senators decided, Okay, enough is enough. We are going to
Speaker 3: force a vote on military aid to Israel right now.
Speaker 3: So as you know what happened, the House of Representatives
Speaker 3: took up and passed a clean Israel aid bill, fourteen
Speaker 3: billion dollars in emergency military aid for Israel. The Biden
Speaker 3: White House wants to tie that military aid to Ukraine
Speaker 3: and also more broadly to their efforts to increase illegal immigration.
Speaker 3: They call it, in a very Orwellian term, border security funding,
Speaker 3: but it's designed not to secure the border at all.
Speaker 3: Instead to increase illegal immigration, to accelerate the time for processing,
Speaker 3: to spend more money to putting illegal immigrants on trains
Speaker 3: and planes and buses to send them to every city
Speaker 3: in America. And so the Biden White House is cynically
Speaker 3: trying to tie is real. Aid to all of that,
Speaker 3: the House of Representatives did the right thing, something we've
Speaker 3: called for on this podcast. Break Israel funding off and
Speaker 3: vote for it free and clear. Now, when the House
Speaker 3: did that, they decided to be fiscally responsible. They decided
Speaker 3: to pay for it. I think that's the right thing
Speaker 3: to do. And so the way they paid for the
Speaker 3: fourteen billion dollars is rescinding funding that the Democrats had
Speaker 3: previously passed into law to hire eighty seven thousand new
Speaker 3: IRS agents designed to harass small businesses, harassed middle class families,
Speaker 3: to be used as an army to go after the
Speaker 3: enemies of this administration.
Speaker 2: So now you you mentioned the vote and the numbers here,
Speaker 2: there's some people that are going to be looking at
Speaker 2: these numbers. It's very very tight this vote. It was
Speaker 2: obviously a party line vote. How on earth is it
Speaker 2: that not a single Democrat would come over and stand
Speaker 2: with Israel on this or was this just a hey,
Speaker 2: we as a democratic party, we always vote together even
Speaker 2: if it screws Israel. I mean, this is one of
Speaker 2: the most tone, tone death votes I've ever witnessed. While
Speaker 2: there's literally two hundred thousand plus people on the mall
Speaker 2: standing with Israel in a nonpartisan way.
Speaker 3: Look, this vote was a demonstration of what I describe
Speaker 3: at great length in my brand new book Unwoke, How
Speaker 3: to Defeat Cultural Marxism in America. By the way, if
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Speaker 3: of that today's democrats they don't give a damn about substance.
Speaker 3: They care about power, and because the corrupt corporate media
Speaker 3: will not report on what they say, they are not
Speaker 3: accountable for what they do. So here's what happens. This
Speaker 3: is one of the moments where this podcast is unusual
Speaker 3: because I want to bring you inside the procedural maneuvering
Speaker 3: in the Senate in a way that frankly, there's no
Speaker 3: other news source that provides that. So I came back
Speaker 3: from the march for Israel about four pm on the
Speaker 3: Capitol and I got a text as I was driving
Speaker 3: back to the Capital from Roger Marshall, Roger Marshall, Republican
Speaker 3: from Kansas. Good friend. He said, a bunch of us
Speaker 3: are meeting to try to force a vote on Israel
Speaker 3: funding right now. So I deviated. I was going to
Speaker 3: go to my office. I deviated to go to the
Speaker 3: Senate floor. I was there with other Conservatives, people like
Speaker 3: Mike Lee, who is my closest friend in the Senate,
Speaker 3: a number of others, and we were strategizing about how
Speaker 3: we can force a vote, and in particular, there's a
Speaker 3: procedural method called filing a rogue cloture petition, And what
Speaker 3: that means is any sixteen senators can file a cloture petition,
Speaker 3: which is a petition to force a vote on something,
Speaker 3: and can basically hijack the Senate floor from the Senate
Speaker 3: majority leader. And it is a procedural mechanism that is
Speaker 3: very very rarely used because both Schumer and McConnell hate it.
Speaker 3: So McConnell had repeatedly urged us do not use this
Speaker 3: mechanism because the majority leader should be able to control
Speaker 3: the entire agenda and it's a mistake to let the
Speaker 3: minority hijack the agenda. Well, look, I understand that procedural point.
Speaker 3: It's not crazy as a day to day operation of
Speaker 3: the Senate. But here the House had passed emergency military
Speaker 3: aid for Israel, and Chuck Schumer had announced we will
Speaker 3: not vote on it. He would block the Senate from
Speaker 3: voting on it. It was literally Schumer was single handedly
Speaker 3: preventing a vote on emergency military aid for Israel. And
Speaker 3: it's because he wants Number one, he's not willing to
Speaker 3: give up the funding for the army of eighty seven
Speaker 3: thousand new IRS agents. He values harassing the political enemies
Speaker 3: of the White House more than military aid for Israel.
Speaker 3: And number two, he wants to tie it to all
Speaker 3: the political priorities of Democrats and hold that military aid hostage.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question about this funding, because
Speaker 2: this is a fight that we did not see. Everybody
Speaker 2: jumped on the S bandwagon when it came to military
Speaker 2: aid for Ukraine. Democrats had no problem jumping on that
Speaker 2: as well, and you didn't have to figure out a
Speaker 2: way to try to bring this vote up. What is
Speaker 2: the logic when you're talking to Democrats, your colleagues, and
Speaker 2: the Senate. How can they be so he bent and
Speaker 2: gung ho on unlimited funding for Ukraine, but no on
Speaker 2: something as simple as defending our actual ally Israel.
Speaker 3: So Democrats number one, recognize that all the Republicans strongly
Speaker 3: support military aid for Israel. So they see that cynically
Speaker 3: as a political opportunity. Good, this is something where Republicans want,
Speaker 3: Republicans want, let's hold it hostage. But number two, listen,
Speaker 3: Democrats are worried about their left flank. They're getting blasted
Speaker 3: by the anti Israel, anti Zionist, radical, anti Semitic left
Speaker 3: the squad, and so they're all nervous. And so what
Speaker 3: ended up happening is why Schumer didn't want to vote.
Speaker 3: He didn't want to force Democrats to vote on it,
Speaker 3: and he felt like he had exquisite power. Now Schumer
Speaker 3: screwed up. The majority leader can prevent what we did today.
Speaker 3: The way the majority leader prevents what we did today
Speaker 3: is he files a pending motion to proceed to something,
Speaker 3: and under the Senate procedural rules, that pending motion to
Speaker 3: proceed to some bill blocks another motion to proceed to
Speaker 3: a bill. And so that's something when Senate Republicans had
Speaker 3: a majority, Mitch McConnell did every day. He did that
Speaker 3: to block the Democrats from doing what we did. Well,
Speaker 3: Schumer was lazy. He didn't do that, so the floor
Speaker 3: was wide open. And so what happened is a group
Speaker 3: of us we had eleven Senate Republicans. We met off
Speaker 3: the floor of the Senate. You needed eleven to force
Speaker 3: a voice vote, and so we gathered there on the
Speaker 3: side of the Senate and we're talking about, Okay, we're
Speaker 3: going to force this, and we're doing this surreptitiously. This
Speaker 3: is like four pm Tuesday afternoon. We then all went
Speaker 3: to the Senate cloak room and we were waiting, and
Speaker 3: actually John Kennedy was giving an extended speech, and we
Speaker 3: wanted Roger Marshall as the one who had the idea
Speaker 3: initially to go forward. So Mike Lee and I and
Speaker 3: others were backing Roger, and we needed to get the
Speaker 3: floor because the Senate Democrats were starting to get wind
Speaker 3: of what we were trying to do. And at one point,
Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer's lead floor aid on the Senate, his sort
Speaker 3: of lead staffer. He came and stock buck his head
Speaker 3: in the Republican cloak room and he looks around and
Speaker 3: he sees eleven of us sitting there, and he kind
Speaker 3: of looks around and he doesn't quite say this out loud,
Speaker 3: but everything is in his expression goes, oh shit.
Speaker 1: Like he knew this.
Speaker 3: He had figured out what we were trying to do.
Speaker 3: And so we went Actually, Ran Paula was part of
Speaker 3: the group. Rand went down to John Kennedy. He was
Speaker 3: giving a speech in another matter, and Ran interrupted him.
Speaker 3: He's like, John Kennedy's on c SPAN giving a speech
Speaker 3: and Rand said, John, we really need you to stop
Speaker 3: right now. It's an emergency. Please stop. And John didn't
Speaker 3: even know what we were doing, but he's like, uh, okay,
Speaker 3: so he stops. Roger Marshall goes down and he gets recognized.
Speaker 3: So getting recognized, once you're recognized, you have the floor,
Speaker 3: you have power. And so Roger goes down and he
Speaker 3: moves to proceed to the House Bill. So the House
Speaker 3: Bill is what they passed. It is fourteen billion dollars
Speaker 3: in emergency military funding for Israel, paid for by rescinding
Speaker 3: the IRS additional funding for eighty seven thousand agents. Once
Speaker 3: he did that, the Democrats are in panic. They're like, oh, crapo, crapple, crapple, crap.
Speaker 3: And so Raphael Warnock, the Democrat from Georgia, he was
Speaker 3: down there. Now. Procedurally, once Roger moves to proceed to
Speaker 3: the bill, he has relinquished the floor. It's a jump
Speaker 3: ball at that point because to move to proceed to it,
Speaker 3: the presiding officer instructs the clerk to read the title
Speaker 3: of the bill, So Roger no longer has the floor.
Speaker 1: Can I ask your cynical question real quick?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: How many senators have no idea how this works? What
Speaker 2: you're describing right now? I'm I become about ninety okay,
Speaker 2: I was just That's the reason why this story is
Speaker 2: amazing to me, because I'm like, I bet you the
Speaker 2: majority of the senators that you serve with don't know
Speaker 2: this is the rules of the Senate and how this
Speaker 2: would work.
Speaker 3: No, no, it's only a handful of senators that understand
Speaker 3: the rules. So Roger moves. When he makes the motion,
Speaker 3: he's relinquished the floor. And so what happened then? As
Speaker 3: soon as the clerk has read the title of the bill,
Speaker 3: Roger says, mister President, and the presiding officer with Senator
Speaker 3: Welch from Vermont he was there. Roger calls out mister President.
Speaker 3: But Raphael Warnock, liberal Democrat from Georgia, calls out mister
Speaker 3: President as well. Now the presiding officer, when you've got
Speaker 3: multiple people asking me recognized, has the option to pick
Speaker 3: who to decide, and so, because he's a Democrat, Welch
Speaker 3: recognizes Warnock. Warnock stands up and says, I suggest the
Speaker 3: absence of a quorum. Now what that means. This is
Speaker 3: getting in the weeds. But this is one of the
Speaker 3: cool things about this podcast. It takes you inside the Senate.
Speaker 3: Under the Senate rules, when any senator suggests the absence
Speaker 3: of a quorum, there is a mandatory quorum call. What
Speaker 3: it means is there are not enough senators on the
Speaker 3: floor right now to conduct business. It is a way
Speaker 3: to freeze the Senate, to lock it in paralysis, because
Speaker 3: once you're in a quorum call, you can do nothing else.
Speaker 3: And so Warnock pushed us into a quorum call. At
Speaker 3: that point, we're and there are more than eleven of
Speaker 3: us that are there. We proceeded over the next hour periodically,
Speaker 3: one after the other. We'd grab the microphone, we'd stand
Speaker 3: up and say, mister President, I asked unanimous consent to
Speaker 3: vitiate the quorum call. That's a way to say, end
Speaker 3: the quorum call, let's vote on the stamp thing and
Speaker 3: over and over you we did this like thirty times.
Speaker 3: Democrats would object. They'd say object, I object, I object. Now,
Speaker 3: you can do that forever. You can keep They could
Speaker 3: keep us in a quorum call, but it meant they
Speaker 3: were stuck, and so we were brainstorming, Okay, how can
Speaker 3: they avoid a vote. We went up to him and said, look,
Speaker 3: what we want is a roll call vote where every
Speaker 3: senator has to go on record do you support funding
Speaker 3: for Israel or do you oppose funding for Israel. After
Speaker 3: about two hours, and I cannot overstate ben how upset
Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer was, how upset the Democrats were. We blindsided them.
Speaker 3: They did not expect this. This hit them out of nowhere,
Speaker 3: and then they finally said, screw it, We're going to
Speaker 3: force through the vote. So we voted and it was
Speaker 3: a straight party line vote. So understand, every single Democrat
Speaker 3: voted against emergency military funding for Israel. Chuck Schumer, who
Speaker 3: calls him the defender of Israel, that's what he calls himself,
Speaker 3: voted against emergency military funding for Israel. John Tester, who's
Speaker 3: running for reelection in Montana, voted against emergency funding for Israel.
Speaker 3: Shared Brown, who's running for reelection in Ohio, voted against
Speaker 3: emergency funding for Israel. Bob Casey, who's running for reelection
Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania voted against emergency funding for Israel. Jackie Rosen,
Speaker 3: who's running for reelection in Nevada, voted against emergency funding
Speaker 3: for Israel. Tammy Baldwin, who's running for reelection in Wisconsin,
Speaker 3: voted against emergency funding for Israel. And the amazing thing
Speaker 3: has been it was a straight party line vote, which
Speaker 3: means every single one of those Democrats I named was
Speaker 3: the deciding vote. Literally, if one Democrat had voted with us,
Speaker 3: this was a fifty vote threshold, so one Democrat could
Speaker 3: have passed this, but every Democrat voted no. And it
Speaker 3: was a moment of clarity, And I think a moment
Speaker 3: of clarity that will come down to the election next
Speaker 3: year where the Democrats have made clear that partisan politics
Speaker 3: matters more to them than standing with Israel.
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Speaker 2: could have moved the pendulum here and funded Israel. And
Speaker 2: if you don't have to name names per se, but
Speaker 2: are you shocked? I mean, there are some Democrats that
Speaker 2: I truly believe are quote friends of Israel. I am
Speaker 2: shocked at not one of them did the right thing
Speaker 2: here and truly stood with Israel. They just said no
Speaker 2: party over even Israel. And and what is referred to
Speaker 2: is emergency funding, meaning they need it now.
Speaker 3: Look, this was I think a spectacularly foolish vote by Democrats.
Speaker 3: I mean you had. Kirsten Cinema was the deciding vote
Speaker 3: against emergency aid to Israel. Bob Benendez, who right now
Speaker 3: is in the midst of a very serious indictment and
Speaker 3: a serious scandal, but he's on the ballot November. He
Speaker 3: was the deciding vote against emergency aid to Israel. Dick Blumenthal,
Speaker 3: Ben Carden, all sorts of Democrats who hold themselves out
Speaker 3: as defenders of Israel. Every one of them, literally one
Speaker 3: of them could say, you know what, we need emergency
Speaker 3: A to Israel now, and I don't care what my
Speaker 3: party leadership says. I'm not going to do it. But
Speaker 3: they decided they cracked the whip. And I'll tell you
Speaker 3: on the flip side, listen, it was not easy to
Speaker 3: hold every Republican. So I was down on the Senate
Speaker 3: floor for about two and a half hours this afternoon
Speaker 3: and I was whipping Republicans and listen, Republican leadership was pissed.
Speaker 3: I cannot over state how angry they were. And the
Speaker 3: reason is it is our leadership said, listen, if you
Speaker 3: do this when Republicans have the majority, Democrats will use
Speaker 3: this tool to try to hijack the floor, and that's
Speaker 3: a reasonable procedural point. I get that. It's not crazy.
Speaker 3: That being said, I think the crisis in Israel is
Speaker 3: so dire, the position of the Democrats is so indefensible
Speaker 3: that it made sense to force and so we did it.
Speaker 3: But when we're voting on it, there were a number
Speaker 3: of Republicans close to leadership who delayed their vote and
Speaker 3: delayed their vote and delay their vote, and I was
Speaker 3: talking to them personally, and I was saying, please, please
Speaker 3: vote to do the right thing, because if we ended
Speaker 3: up with a vote where you had all the Democrats
Speaker 3: and two or three or five Republicans, it would totally
Speaker 3: blur the distinction. They could say there's a bipartisan vote
Speaker 3: against this procedural game. That's what the Democrats would say.
Speaker 3: And so I was begging Republicans, please, this is something
Speaker 3: I get. You don't like the procedural mechanism that we
Speaker 3: forced this vote, but we did. Once we did, let's
Speaker 3: actually be united and be team players. And miraculously, look
Speaker 3: it was close. And I was talking staffers, I was
Speaker 3: talking to members, I was lobbying. I was on the
Speaker 3: in the well of the Senate working vote by vote
Speaker 3: by vote, we got every single Republican one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: That was a big deal because it means that each
Speaker 3: and every Democrat. There is not a Democrat in the
Speaker 3: Senate who was not the deciding vote on this motion.
Speaker 3: And that is a big deal for clarity. And I
Speaker 3: want to underscore something. Ben you asked a minute ago,
Speaker 3: why would Democrats do this? And part of me was
Speaker 3: shocked by the way. Joe Manchett is not running free election.
Speaker 3: He voted against military funding for Israel. He could have
Speaker 3: been the deciding vote, but he figured, I guess, screw it.
Speaker 3: I'm leaving the Senate to who cares part of the
Speaker 3: reason Democrats do this while we're voting. I looked up
Speaker 3: in the Senate. There were four reporters up in the
Speaker 3: Senate gallery. We'll see how many headlines are published about
Speaker 3: Senate Democrats block military funding for Israel, But my guess
Speaker 3: is very, very few. We went out and tried to
Speaker 3: talk to reporters. I didn't see the six o'clock news tonight,
Speaker 3: so I don't know this for a fact, but I'd
Speaker 3: be willing to bet you one hundred dollars right now,
Speaker 3: and I'm cheap. I don't bet one hundred dollars on
Speaker 3: many things.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 3: I bet you one hundred dollars that none of the
Speaker 3: major networks covered that Senate Democrats tonight blocked funding for Israel.
Speaker 3: And this is why. Look, this is the point in
Speaker 3: my book Unwoke, which you ought to go online and
Speaker 3: buy right now. This is why I focus so much
Speaker 3: on the corrupt corporate media. Because the corrupt corporate media,
Speaker 3: they're not covering news. They are partisan advocates. They don't
Speaker 3: want aid to Israel to pass. They are cheering for Hamas.
Speaker 3: Many of the corrupt corporate media are openly sharing for Hamas.
Speaker 3: And so Democrats can cast spectacularly foolish votes and know
Speaker 3: their constituents will never know about it. Dick Blumenthal, Democrat
Speaker 3: from Connecticut, he holds himself out as one of the
Speaker 3: leading defenders of Israel. Well, he is absolutely certain when
Speaker 3: he goes to Connecticut, none of his voters will know
Speaker 3: that he was the deciding vote that blocked emergency military
Speaker 3: aid to Israel. Why because the corrupt corporate media won't
Speaker 3: tell them.
Speaker 2: You, Senator, have said this several times, and it's a
Speaker 2: very accurate statement. You say, if lawyers never ask a
Speaker 2: question of somebody if they don't already know the answer.
Speaker 2: That rule applies, I think to taking things to the
Speaker 2: for the Senate for a vote, right, don't call a
Speaker 2: vote if you don't know what the outcome is going
Speaker 2: to be. And yet this today seems to be one
Speaker 2: of those incredibly authentic moments. Was it inspired because of
Speaker 2: the two hundred thousand plus that came to Capitol Hill
Speaker 2: to stand with Israel? And that's where this kind of started,
Speaker 2: where it's like, you know, we got to do something today,
Speaker 2: and let's just see if we can get it done.
Speaker 2: And know we haven't called everybody beforehand, and this is
Speaker 2: an organic moment in the Senate.
Speaker 3: Look for me, it certainly was. I can't speak to
Speaker 3: the other Republican senators, but I came literally from the
Speaker 3: march on Washington. I was down there hugging and supporting
Speaker 3: so many incredible heroes and Jewish Americans who came from
Speaker 3: all over the country to come to the mall to
Speaker 3: stand in solidarity. And I came back and I heard
Speaker 3: several of my colleagues were thinking of this, and I
Speaker 3: was like, absolutely, let's go to the floor right now,
Speaker 3: Let's do it. And so I leaned in aggressively, and
Speaker 3: I got to say it was striking. Number one, the
Speaker 3: absolute panic among Senate Democrats was striking, but sadly the
Speaker 3: panic among Senate Republican leadership. They didn't like that we
Speaker 3: did this either, But I think it provided an absolute
Speaker 3: moment of clarity. And let me be clear, what I
Speaker 3: hoped would happen is that we would vote to provide
Speaker 3: the military ade Israel. By the way, if one Democrat,
Speaker 3: if even one, if Bob Casey, if Jackie Rosen, if
Speaker 3: John Tester is Sheared Brown, if even one Democrat had
Speaker 3: voted with us, this bill would have passed and we
Speaker 3: would have sent it to Joe Biden's desk tonight, so
Speaker 3: Joe Biden could have signed it this evening and sent
Speaker 3: fourteen billion dollars to Israel Tuesday night.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: I didn't know if that would happen. I actually wasn't
Speaker 3: sure they could hold their votes. And part of the
Speaker 3: reason they locked up the floor in a quorum call
Speaker 3: for a couple hours is I assumed they were whipping
Speaker 3: their votes. They called the people that they thought were
Speaker 3: wobbly votes. They said, Okay, Schumer wants you to vote
Speaker 3: to screw Israel. Are you okay with that? And I
Speaker 3: think every Democrat said yep, good bye me, I'm good
Speaker 3: by that. And it just I got to say, if
Speaker 3: the shoe were on the other foot, if it were
Speaker 3: Republican leadership asking Republicans to cast a vote like that,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it, and a whole bunch of us wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Yet the Democrats. This is where I cannot overstate the
Speaker 3: impact of the corrupt corporate media. Part of the reason
Speaker 3: Republicans wouldn't do it is our voters will know if
Speaker 3: we cast a terrible vote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would literally cost several centaters their job the
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Speaker 3: The Democrats feel utterly and completely immune. They know that
Speaker 3: CNN has their back, they know that ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC.
Speaker 3: They won't cover it, they won't report on it, they'll
Speaker 3: ignore it, they'll bury it. And The New York Times
Speaker 3: they're not going to cover it because they don't want
Speaker 3: to cover it, because they're more interested in the left
Speaker 3: wing partisan agenda than they are and actually covering the news.
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Speaker 2: They said they are originally threatened to expel these pro
Speaker 2: Palace and In protesters, and then afterwards they're like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're gonna full, We're gonna come back on this. We're
Speaker 2: going to pull back on this, uh and say never mind,
Speaker 2: because these people if we if we pull them from school,
Speaker 2: it will have visa issues. Regardless of how extreme these
Speaker 2: protesters were. This is shocking to see them coming back
Speaker 2: from this. Yet that's exactly what now has happened at MIT.
Speaker 3: Your reaction, well, listen, what happened at MIT was absolutely disgraceful.
Speaker 3: MIT by any measure, is one of the finest educational
Speaker 3: institutions on the face of the planet. It may be
Speaker 3: the greatest scientific technical university in the world. And what
Speaker 3: has happened in the last several days is that numerous
Speaker 3: Jewish students were forced to stay home from classes. They
Speaker 3: could not attend classes. Why because anti Israel, anti Semitic
Speaker 3: protesters threatened them, physically threatened them, and the students said
Speaker 3: they felt that they felt safe, that they felt like
Speaker 3: going to class would endanger their personal safety. Now that
Speaker 3: is insane and any normal university. If one student threatens
Speaker 3: another student, threatens their safety and prevents them from going
Speaker 3: to class, whoever makes that threat should be expelled. If
Speaker 3: you are harassing Jewish students because you're an anti Semite bigot,
Speaker 3: you should be expelled. And by the way, to be clear,
Speaker 3: if someone was harassing Muslim students and preventing Muslim students
Speaker 3: from going to class, they should be expelled. No student
Speaker 3: has a right to harass and threaten fellow students. Well,
Speaker 3: what happened in MIT is is this harassment occurred, and
Speaker 3: Jewish students stayed home, and the university administrators back to
Speaker 3: weigh and refuse to take the natural step of expelling them.
Speaker 3: Why because these rabbit anti Semitisms were there. Semites were
Speaker 3: there on student visas, and if they got expelled, they'd
Speaker 3: get sent back comb And the university said, well, okay,
Speaker 3: if you were an American, we would punish you. But
Speaker 3: because you're not an American, because you're a guest, because
Speaker 3: we've welcomed you to our country to get an education,
Speaker 3: you can conduct harassment and bigoting, bigoted, racist, threatened threatening
Speaker 3: of other students, and we will just turn to blind
Speaker 3: eye and give you a pat on the back.
Speaker 1: It's CNN.
Speaker 2: There truly seems to be a civil war inside of
Speaker 2: CNN right now, because if you watch the Morning Show,
Speaker 2: it's like all Hamas propaganda and anti Semitism. You watch
Speaker 2: their primetime wine up at night, it goes right back
Speaker 2: to that. There was a moment and I want to
Speaker 2: give credit here to Jake Tapper. Jake Tapper had on
Speaker 2: an MIT graduate student and let her tell her story
Speaker 2: to the world, and I want you to hear what
Speaker 2: she had to say. It was and I'm glad that
Speaker 2: he used his program for good. You had the headline
Speaker 2: hate in America. MIT students speaks out about anti Semitism
Speaker 2: on campus.
Speaker 1: Listen to this.
Speaker 4: As a Jewish student at MIT, do you feel safe
Speaker 4: on campus? You know? Honestly, Jake, in the past few weeks,
Speaker 4: I have not felt safe on campus.
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 4: So? You know, ever since October seventh, we've seen at
Speaker 4: universities around the country that you know, the conflict that's
Speaker 4: overseas has come to our home term, and we've had
Speaker 4: a lot of rallies and events by an organization called
Speaker 4: the Coalition Against Apartheid, which is the anti Israel group
Speaker 4: on MIT's campus, and they, along with some local anti
Speaker 4: Israel groups, have come to campus because MIT is an
Speaker 4: open campus, which means that anybody can walk around and
Speaker 4: you know, be on campus. So they together have done
Speaker 4: protests on campus on the steps of Lobby seven, which
Speaker 4: is the main entrance to MIT, and in front of
Speaker 4: the Student Center. And I mean, people protest, but but
Speaker 4: what do they do? What do they say that makes
Speaker 4: you feel unsafe? So I guess part of it is
Speaker 4: the fact of what they're saying. So when you're saying
Speaker 4: things like globalize the end of Fada, use your two
Speaker 4: fists to sacrifice everything for Palestine and one solution and
Speaker 4: to fada. You know, we know what happened during the
Speaker 4: second end of Fada. It was suicide bombings and attacks
Speaker 4: against Israeli civilians in Israel. But the other part of
Speaker 4: it is that these people aren't just protesting outside and
Speaker 4: exercising the rights for free speech, which I fully support
Speaker 4: as an American. It's that they're going you know, they
Speaker 4: went to the personal offices of a program that runs
Speaker 4: Israel internships on MIT's campus, and they went to the
Speaker 4: offices of the people who worked for this program, and
Speaker 4: they tried to enter it. They were going from door
Speaker 4: to door trying to unlock the doors, and the people
Speaker 4: who worked in this office had no idea to what
Speaker 4: these students were trying to do by trying to get
Speaker 4: into their office. They were yelling, they were accusing them
Speaker 4: of apartheid, of ethnic cleansing, of genocide. And it was
Speaker 4: a really frightening experience.
Speaker 2: A really frightening experience. You hear this student saying this,
Speaker 2: and yet this is happening to them. And as you
Speaker 2: described a moment ago, they said, if you keep doing this,
Speaker 2: we're going to expel you.
Speaker 1: Then they said, oh, never mind, just kidding.
Speaker 2: You're just going to be in trouble, but you're not
Speaker 2: going to get expelled because we don't want you to
Speaker 2: lose your visa. That's in my Semitism and accepting this
Speaker 2: type of abuse by these individuals.
Speaker 3: Well, that's right. And let me quote from Fox News
Speaker 3: had an article about this where they quoted conservative lawyer
Speaker 3: Maria Maria Medvin and she said, quote, MIT is one
Speaker 3: of the most prestigious universities in the US these days.
Speaker 3: Foreigners make up about thirty percent of the MIT student body.
Speaker 3: Jewish students, on the other hand, make up about six
Speaker 3: percent of the MIT student body, a campus minority. So
Speaker 3: think about it right now now. I will admit it
Speaker 3: is somewhat concerning that thirty percent of the MI two
Speaker 3: student body are foreigners. But especially if these are foreigners
Speaker 3: that are vicious bigots, that are anti Semites, that are
Speaker 3: willing to threaten her, harass and threaten physical violence against
Speaker 3: their fellow students, their Jewish students because they hate them
Speaker 3: so much. They should be expelled. If you threaten physical
Speaker 3: violence against the fellow student, if you block them from
Speaker 3: going to class. That should be a no brainer reason
Speaker 3: for expulsion, and the administrators, Look, why did the administrators
Speaker 3: not expel them? And again this goes back to what
Speaker 3: I talk about in my new book Unwoke. This is
Speaker 3: cultural Marxism. The administrators, the cultural Marxist side with the
Speaker 3: people they have decided are the victims, the Palestinians, over
Speaker 3: the people. They have decided that they are the pressers,
Speaker 3: the Jews. And so for the radical left, threats of
Speaker 3: violence against Jews are okay, it is acceptable. And and
Speaker 3: so listen the fact that someone's on a student VI
Speaker 3: said they ought to behave better, not worse. It shouldn't
Speaker 3: be the case that Americans are held to stricter standards
Speaker 3: than foreigners coming to study in our universities. And yet
Speaker 3: MIT says, well, if we expelled you, you lose your
Speaker 3: student visa, So we're not going to expel you. Please
Speaker 3: continue to harass and threaten and threaten physical violence to
Speaker 3: our students, because you know, we the administrators don't give
Speaker 3: a damn about the Jewish students because in the cultural
Speaker 3: Marxist world, they're the oppressors. So tech with.
Speaker 1: Them, Yeah, to the heck with them?
Speaker 2: And I will say it's we better stand up for
Speaker 2: these students and the fact and hold these and I
Speaker 2: hope donors, I really do, and the people that give
Speaker 2: to these universities are paying it.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, these universities are doing yes, yes, yes, absolutely right.
Speaker 3: And it's one of the things that is freaking universities
Speaker 3: out is that donors are cut are cutting off the cash,
Speaker 3: and that is it's the one thing that's getting them attention.
Speaker 3: And listen, I want to actually quote from one of
Speaker 3: the best known poems. First, they came for the socialists,
Speaker 3: and I I did not speak out because I was
Speaker 3: not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists,
Speaker 3: and I did not speak out because I was not
Speaker 3: a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and
Speaker 3: I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Speaker 3: Then they came for me, and there was no one
Speaker 3: left to speak out for me. Look, I think that
Speaker 3: applies to our universities right now. If there's anyone at
Speaker 3: a university, a student, a professor, an administrator who gives
Speaker 3: a damn about equal rights, about protection, about stopping anti semitism,
Speaker 3: about stopping bigotry, about stopping hate, speak out now. If
Speaker 3: you're a donor and you write a check to these schools,
Speaker 3: speak out now and say not one penny more until
Speaker 3: you protect the students on our campus. You cannot give
Speaker 3: in to the violent Marxist radical and expect us to
Speaker 3: continue to support these schools. This is a time for
Speaker 3: choosing right now.
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Speaker 2: Lastly, I want to play for you and just so
Speaker 2: people understand what's happening at MIT. This is just some
Speaker 2: of the student videos have gone viral online. They're chanting
Speaker 2: Infantada and the Jewish students are stuck inside, were physically
Speaker 2: prevented from attending class by this hostile group of Prohamas
Speaker 2: and anti Israel MIT students that call themselves a CAA.
Speaker 2: Then another student came out and showed another video of
Speaker 2: these massive protests, and this is what it sounded like, Senator.
Speaker 2: They were doing this and they knew where many of
Speaker 2: the Jewish students were when they went to these buildings
Speaker 2: to protest, just to scare these Jewish students. I leave
Speaker 2: everybody with that audio, and I want to get your
Speaker 2: final words on this, because this is clearly organized. It's
Speaker 2: being funded by someone, Senator. The MIT is what they
Speaker 2: refer to as an open campus where outside groups can
Speaker 2: come in. This is orchestrated by these extremists, anti Israel groups.
Speaker 2: Somebody has to be paying for this, funding this, and
Speaker 2: then they are targeting where the Jewish students are in
Speaker 2: these schools. And it's not just MIT. This is happening
Speaker 2: on other college campuses.
Speaker 3: So the Second Intifada in Israel was a series of
Speaker 3: suicide bobbings carried out by Palestinian assailants and it resulted
Speaker 3: in It took place between nineteen eighty seven and nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety three, and it had a combined casualty casualty figure
Speaker 3: of roughly one thousand Israelis, three thousand Palestinians, and sixty
Speaker 3: four foreign nationals. And so when these radicals are cheering
Speaker 3: and chanting for another Intifada, they're calling for murdering more Jews. Now,
Speaker 3: mind you, on October seventh, we saw one two hundred
Speaker 3: Israelis civilians targeted by Hamas' death squads and murdered because
Speaker 3: they are Israelis. And these protesters are chanting they want
Speaker 3: another intefada. In other words, you haven't murdered enough Jews.
Speaker 3: We want more Jews murdered. That's what they're chanting. And listen,
Speaker 3: if you're a Jewish student at MIT or at another
Speaker 3: one of these elite universities where these radical leftists have
Speaker 3: taken over, it is understandable that you are afraid for
Speaker 3: your own safety. This is disgraceful and every university that
Speaker 3: allows this to happen is failing in their obligation to
Speaker 3: keep their students safe. No student, everyone has a right
Speaker 3: to free speech. No student has a right to threaten
Speaker 3: physical violence against other students to prevent students from going
Speaker 3: to class. And that's what these radicals are doing at
Speaker 3: mi Tea and right now the MI T administration is
Speaker 3: complicit in this terrorizing of Jewish students.
Speaker 1: It's disgraceful, Senator.
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