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Speaker 1: I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, I

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Speaker 1: want to be happy. You want to be happy for

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Speaker 1: day Edo.

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Speaker 2: State is that?

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Speaker 3: Whoo whoo?

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Speaker 1: And no Dan and.

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Speaker 3: Tie Dan rub see Welcome back, my friend. This is

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Speaker 3: Rivalry Week preview.

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Speaker 1: Part Duh duh.

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Speaker 3: You know we don't need a nickname for a week

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Speaker 3: like Rivalry Week, Dewey.

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Speaker 1: No, we do not.

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Speaker 2: This is what it is. There's no changing things, there's

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Speaker 2: only appreciating things. Ty, That's why we are here.

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Speaker 1: I am excited to be back with you.

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Speaker 3: You are still out there in parts unknown on the

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Speaker 3: night at midnight, when we recap everything that we fourteen

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Speaker 3: had in store. That will be back from your normal studio,

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Speaker 3: but at present. For those of you watching on the YouTube,

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Speaker 3: or maybe even for some of you listening at home,

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Speaker 3: if it's a little bit different, give us a little

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Speaker 3: bit of grace. We like to visit family too on

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Speaker 3: this Thanksgiving holiday, wherever you may be out there, if

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Speaker 3: you do celebrated Happy Thanksgiving. We are doing these episodes

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Speaker 3: and listen to part one, which dropped on Tuesday if

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Speaker 3: you want to listen to our thoughts on the big

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Speaker 3: three games that are taking place on Friday on today's episode.

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Speaker 3: We're going to do our best to go through everything else.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot we will not have an opportunity

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Speaker 3: to talk about all of them, but certainly the biggest ones,

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Speaker 3: the ones with playoff and conference ramifications, even those that

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Speaker 3: are just of interest to you and I, Dan, We're

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Speaker 3: all of those and much much more.

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Speaker 2: I am already pacing myself, Ty, I'm planning lunches, I'm

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Speaker 2: planning early workouts, I'm planning coffee schedule, I'm planning human time.

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Speaker 2: It's all happening, Tie. This is why we're here, This

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Speaker 2: is why we're here to completely drench ourselves in the

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Speaker 1: Jacuzzi.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, and one final bit of housekeeping. We talked about

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Speaker 3: this on yesterday's episode, but run the board, which is

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Speaker 3: notably our pick them game where you picked twelve games

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Speaker 3: a week against the point spread, we have been having

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Speaker 3: a season long contest with the intention of the top

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Speaker 3: five getting spots on our board of trustees. We've done

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Speaker 3: this now for the last couple of years. We have

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Speaker 3: not done at all since we started doing this game

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Speaker 3: is offer a golden ticket. Last year we started up

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Speaker 3: with one big prize per month. We're going to offer

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Speaker 3: that whoever wins gets a five hundred dollars Visa gift card.

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Speaker 3: That's you know, we've done that before.

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Speaker 2: But what we haven't done loss over that number. Don't

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of potatoes. Swear's my sound.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of potatoes.

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Speaker 3: That is a lot of potatoes. Yeah, you can do

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Speaker 3: something with that. But in addition, you get a golden ticket,

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Speaker 3: And because we are going to do a season end

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Speaker 1: How about that, man, how about get on the board.

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Speaker 2: You cut the line with rivalry week excellence And look,

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Speaker 2: we've had how many weeks leading up to this point,

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Speaker 2: Can confirm, Yeah, this is the time. If you've been reticent,

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Speaker 2: to me, Ah, this is the moment. This is your excellent, excellent,

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Speaker 3: Dan, I didn't know if you wanted to spend the

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Speaker 2: Last year, and it has the opportunity to be a

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Speaker 3: I have two crazy stats, and you were pushing up

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Speaker 3: A little bit short, little bit short. Do you know

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Speaker 1: Is it two? The answer is three? Three?

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Speaker 1: This is the last game of the regular season, right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we're the full way through now, correct, Julian Sayan's

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Speaker 3: It's absurd if that number holds, even if it pulls

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's always been fine, It's always been very good,

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Speaker 3: They're getting quarterback playing on a much different level this year,

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Speaker 1: I fully agree.

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Speaker 2: Should also be noted Ohio State's offensive line is in

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Speaker 2: How much does this change the way you view this game?

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Speaker 2: It doesn't, It doesn't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it does because I think the best

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Speaker 3: And so to that point, and to what you mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 3: I have a really hard time building that case for Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Now famous last words, right, I said the exact same

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Speaker 3: Hopefully for Ohio State fans we won't see a repeat

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Speaker 3: it is. We're going to lock up Ohio State and

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Speaker 2: A couple other details that are interesting to me in

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Speaker 2: cold weather this season, so that's not going to alter

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Speaker 2: Whether we get a couple of drops because we've got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had somewhere and I had thirty one seventeen

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Speaker 2: So this is terrifying. Michigan's winning this game.

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Speaker 3: It's not good news for you, and it's not good

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Speaker 1: If I'm locking it up.

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Speaker 3: The only thing that I'll add here, and it's my

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Speaker 3: They tried to out Michigan them and bully them, and

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Speaker 3: that really wasn't their style of play. They got away

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Speaker 3: They brought that ground game along, they've gotten better at

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be fascinating. This is gonna be great. I mean,

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Speaker 2: They play a ton of zone right, That's been their thing.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: They build their team around beating Ohio State. And obviously

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: I love that It's gonna be frigid tempts that feels

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Speaker 1: We haven't seen it in a minute. I hear you,

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Speaker 3: All right, let's move on, Let's go to high noon

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Speaker 3: on ABC. This is Miami, a six point road favorite again.

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Speaker 3: It's the beautiful, wonderful Pittsburgh Panthers.

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Speaker 1: H twop tis beautiful hip pitt Panthers.

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Speaker 3: I'm beautiful, beautiful Panthers. I want you to go first

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Speaker 3: because everyone knows. Everybody knows who I'm picking here, like

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Speaker 3: I've been on pit in this game since quite literally

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Speaker 3: I'm going to take the ball in the second half

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Speaker 1: Where are you at with this game?

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Speaker 2: I'm back and forth, But I'm glad you transitioned to

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Speaker 1: Right, are you using the weather dock that I sent

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Speaker 1: you the spreadsheet?

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Speaker 2: I did look at the spreadsheet that you sent me

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Speaker 1: I don't even know how I got that.

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Speaker 3: That might be from down in our discord, who's oh,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I apologize for I know how into the

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Speaker 3: weather you are. I can't believe I just found that

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Speaker 3: and sent it to you. Now anyway, please continue fridge attempts.

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Speaker 2: And I needed the ten day so that didn't fully

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Speaker 1: Six points in favor of Miami. I think I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go outright.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think I'm gonna go outright because of

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Speaker 2: the run defense and the run defense. To me, what

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Speaker 2: they were able to do against Haines King and Georgia

442
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Speaker 2: Tech last week was very impressive. Miami on the road.

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Speaker 2: Miami's not especially close to Pittsburgh, so this is a

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Speaker 2: very much real road trip for the Canes. I just

445
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Speaker 2: think there is something that about Pitt that's going to

446
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Speaker 2: make this offense uncomfortable, that will game plan really well

447
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Speaker 2: for Miami. Knows that their play calling hasn't been great

448
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Speaker 2: consistent all year long, knows that the running game hasn't

449
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Speaker 2: been their beat up. Obviously Miami in the run game,

450
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Speaker 2: but Pringle's good that they should be able to focus

451
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Speaker 2: enough of their attention on Malachi Tony to force Miami

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Speaker 2: into a couple of mistakes. And though I'm not crazy

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Speaker 2: about Pitt's offensive consistency, they seem to have found something

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Speaker 2: on the ground lately in Boozy Turner taking over for

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Speaker 2: des Reed, who's been beat up. And I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I think there's a little bit of pit magic here.

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Speaker 2: I think you've sold me. And I don't love Mario

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Speaker 2: christabaul In November.

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Speaker 1: First, first time ever the hard cell worked on you.

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Speaker 2: I think there is something about Pitt at home, not

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Speaker 2: that there's a ton ton on the line for Pitt

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Speaker 2: in terms of I mean, the postseason is still very

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Speaker 2: much an option the you know, the ACC Championship game,

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Speaker 2: but Miami's now closer to that game, right, the AEC

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Speaker 2: Championship game.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk about that in the second and so.

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Speaker 2: I think Miami is going to be up for this

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Speaker 2: one in a big way, but that the games in

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh frigid tempts the run defense. I think there's enough

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Speaker 2: to like about a little bit of Panther magic here

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Speaker 2: that I'm going with Pitt out right by three, twenty

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Speaker 2: four to twenty one.

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Speaker 3: I love where you're thinking, man, I love where you're

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Speaker 3: at here, all right. I want to call out a

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Speaker 3: point that our friend Richard Johnson from Split Zone Duo

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Speaker 3: from CBS brought up. I saw a clip of his

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Speaker 3: that he posted online when he was on CBS Sports Network.

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Speaker 3: But you know, and he's right to bring this up.

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Speaker 3: Everybody dunked on patn or Doozy for those comments that

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Speaker 3: he made before the Notre Dame game. Remember, I forget

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Speaker 3: what the exact quote was, but something to the effect of, like,

482
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Speaker 3: we could lose by one hundred and it wouldn't really

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Speaker 3: matter as long as we win the next two. Yep,

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Speaker 3: you know, everybody joked about that. It was funny. You

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Speaker 3: don't typically hear coaches say that. But Richard's point was, A,

486
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Speaker 3: he was right, and B we saw last week that

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Speaker 3: the coaching staff was very clearly locked in on beating

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Speaker 3: Georgia Tech. They very much took what Nardoozi said to

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Speaker 3: heart and they got their team ready for that Tech game,

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Speaker 3: and we could expect to see more of the same

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Speaker 3: now against Miami. You know, it wasn't so much them

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Speaker 3: waving the white flag as them understanding the assignment here

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Speaker 3: in terms of the ACC and maybe their pathway into

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Speaker 3: a conference championship game, who knows, maybe even the college

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Speaker 3: football playoff. Pitt is a good team, Dan, They're not

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Speaker 3: a great team, but they're a good team. They've got

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Speaker 3: an exciting young quarterback in Mason Heinschel. They're also a

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Speaker 3: defense that does two things really well. A they stop

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Speaker 3: the run pretty well and B they blitz the crap

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Speaker 3: out of you. And I mentioned this last week, but

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Speaker 3: about forty percent of the time when you drop back,

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Speaker 3: Pitt's coming. So I think that puts a lot of

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Speaker 3: the pressure in this game on the Miami offensive line,

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Speaker 3: which makes for a super interesting matchup. You know, Miami,

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Speaker 3: certainly under Crystal Ball, has been very solid building that

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Speaker 3: offensive line. It's one of their relative strengths this season, so.

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Speaker 1: This will be the best in the country.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely a strength, not even a relative strength, definite strength.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be a very interesting chess match

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Speaker 1: to watch. Full stop.

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Speaker 3: I think we're going to see a lot of quick

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Speaker 3: stuff to Malachai Tony, get the ball out of Carson

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Speaker 3: Beck's hands, get it to their best playmaker in space.

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Speaker 1: He's so good after the catch, right. That is what

515
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Speaker 1: we're going to see a lot of in this game.

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Speaker 3: I think if they are playing at spart knowing what

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Speaker 3: Pitt's tendencies are, if I am being fair, I should

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Speaker 3: also point out that I think Miami is going to

519
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Speaker 3: do the same on Mason Hinchel. I think they're also

520
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Speaker 3: going to dial up the pressure on the young quarterback,

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Speaker 3: and to that point, Pitt's offensive line is not as

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Speaker 3: good at protecting him. For example, in that Notreed aame

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Speaker 3: game that we saw a couple of weeks ago. Now,

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Speaker 3: Mason Heinschel was under pressure on a little over half

525
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Speaker 3: of his dropbacks. His completion percentage dipped to twenty three percent.

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Speaker 3: So are you saying you're listening to this out there,

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Speaker 3: and I'm sure you're saying, Tai, Well, yeah, any quarterbacks

528
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Speaker 3: numbers go down when they're under pressure, and that's probably

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Speaker 3: true to an extent, but down to twenty three percent,

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Speaker 3: that's a pretty big dip.

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Speaker 1: Not ideal, not ideal.

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Speaker 3: So with all that being said, I have already made

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Speaker 3: my case over the months, over the last couple of

534
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Speaker 3: weeks for the Pitt Panthers. I like the fact that

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Speaker 3: they can stop the run. I do think there is

536
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Speaker 3: a situation here where they're going to be able to

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Speaker 3: confuse Carson back or put him in some odd situations.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's the formula, and we saw it

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Speaker 3: a little bit last week. I think we're going to

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Speaker 3: see it again this week from the Pit Panthers. I

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Speaker 3: think Pitt gets the dub out right. I've got it

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Speaker 3: at thirty four thirty one. I should also note, and

543
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Speaker 3: this is not intended as dunk contest or anything like that,

544
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Speaker 3: but we have seen Miami choke in these situations. Sure,

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Speaker 3: it would be malpractice for me to just not point

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Speaker 3: that out. So thirty four to thirty one, my beautiful,

547
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Speaker 3: beautiful pit Panthers, HTWP, go on and get the w FYI.

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Speaker 3: Here is the current tiebreaker slash championship game scenario in

549
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Speaker 3: the ACC. If anybody's got a pen and a pad

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Speaker 3: out there, Okay, If Virginia wins, they're in easy. If

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Speaker 3: SMU wins, they're in easy.

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Speaker 2: SMUs cal Virginia obviously, Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Pitt can get into the AEC Championship game.

554
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: They got to beat Miami, and then on top of it,

555
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Speaker 3: they either need SMU to lose to Louisville or Virginia

556
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Speaker 3: to lose to Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 2: Does an SMU play cal Cal Excuse me, yes, you

558
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: said Louisville.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, we're here. It's late in the season. Miami

560
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: can reach the a SEC Championship game. They got to

561
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Speaker 1: beat Pitt.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, they need Virginia to lose in Virginia Tech. They

563
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: need Duke to lose as well, or they need SMU

564
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 3: to lose their game, and they need Duke to lose

565
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: their game and North Carolina to lose their game. So

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Speaker 3: again it's parlay. Okay, yeah, you got a big time parley.

567
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Speaker 3: There's another set of circumstances where Duke can get into

568
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Speaker 3: that game.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to read those off.

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Speaker 3: But five teams right now in the ACC that mathematically

571
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Speaker 3: have an opportunity to play in that title game.

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Speaker 1: But your odds on favorite right now is SMU in Virginia.

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Speaker 3: Great, that's where things stand. But we're both in agreement.

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Speaker 3: We're going with pit outright, baby.

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Speaker 2: Going with pit outright now. Look, the case for Miami

576
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: is obviously easy. I think they have the trench advantage,

577
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Speaker 2: they have the playmaker receiver advantage, they have the quarterback

578
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Speaker 2: experience advantage.

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Speaker 1: They're just on the road. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they're on the road and this situation has not

581
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: been kind to Miami when they get a little bit

582
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: too stubborn.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to three thirty.

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Speaker 3: I found online that some people call this a Cascade clash.

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Speaker 1: Yes, is that a real name. I've never heard that

586
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: name before in my life. I have not heard it

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Speaker 1: in conversation ever.

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Speaker 3: Three thirty CBS, it is your Oregon Duck's a six

589
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: and one half point favorite on the road at Washington.

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Speaker 3: When I saw this point spread, the eyebrows went up. Huh,

591
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: then they went down, and then I scratched the hair

592
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Speaker 3: on my chinny, chin, chin, Dan. I don't get this

593
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: point spread. I don't understand this point spread. It seems

594
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: too low to me. So is there like a letdown

595
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: going on with Oregon after the USC game? Is there

596
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Speaker 3: hidden strength on the Washington side maybe that I wasn't

597
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: picking up when I did my research. Why is this

598
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 3: point spread where it's at?

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Speaker 2: I think some uncertainty where Oregon's at healthwise on offense.

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Speaker 2: With the offensive line now, I kind of expect the

601
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: tackles to play for this Oregon offensive line. The right

602
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: tackle missed a little bit of time but came back

603
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: last week against USC sortin. The left tackle was out

604
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Speaker 2: for a good chunk of that SC game. He got

605
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Speaker 2: hurt I think in the Minnesota game early and they

606
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Speaker 2: lost their starting center, who's a big deal on this

607
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: Oregon offensive line that's been very very good, if not

608
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: excellent this season. In protecting Dante Moore outside of that

609
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: Indiana game that would be the lone exception, and then

610
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Speaker 2: dealing with the receiver injuries and obviously it worked out

611
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: really well, but that was at home. It was against

612
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Speaker 2: the USC defense that hasn't been great this season. In

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Speaker 2: Washington's defense hasn't been great this season, but the games

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Speaker 2: in Seattle, it's a difficult place to play. Obviously, it's

615
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Speaker 2: been a recent house of horrors for Oregon. They dispatched

616
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Speaker 2: Washington pretty easily last season in Eugene, but it's a

617
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Speaker 2: tough road environment. Emotions are going to be running high.

618
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Speaker 2: Dante Moore, I think, has improved to a pretty impressive

619
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Speaker 2: point this season, but it's still a road spot for

620
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Speaker 2: him where he's had some down moments this season, not

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Speaker 2: really on the road. The down moment was against Indiana

622
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: and the Wisconsin game was in the rain and he

623
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: got hurt knocked out of that one. But I think

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Speaker 2: there's still a little bit of question about how he's

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00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: going to perform when these lights are bright against a

626
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: good Washington team that may be able to score some points.

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00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: The Oregon defense, though, is the reason why this line

628
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: is a little bit odd, because Washington against good defenses

629
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Speaker 2: this season, which has been what Wisconsin, Ohio State and

630
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: who am I missing right now?

631
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Speaker 1: Oh, Michigan, Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they've gotten to double digits in

633
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Speaker 2: those games. Now, they've scored a touchdown in those games

634
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Speaker 2: at most.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the games against Ohio State and Michigan in particular,

636
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: Washington score to combine thirteen points. They lost twenty four

637
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: to six to Ohio State, in twenty four to seven

638
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 3: in Michigan.

639
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Speaker 1: And the Wisconsin game.

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Speaker 2: If they got to double digits, it was barely right, right, right, right, Yeah,

641
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: you can fact check the final score in that one.

642
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: So that's the question to me is what does Oregon's

643
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: defensive line do against a Washington offensive line that, in

644
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: those big moments has struggled to protect him On Williams,

645
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: who's obviously incredible athletically and can make something out of

646
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: nothing when he needs to. But then you couple that

647
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: with a beat up starting running back and Joanah Coleman

648
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: who barely played last week, and obviously, for resting reasons,

649
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: Denzel Boston has beat up their best receiver. I just

650
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: I wonder how many points Washington is going to be

651
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: able to score if Oregon's defense is locked in, and

652
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: I think they will be because this Washington game is

653
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: a big deal. So I don't see Washington getting to

654
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: seventeen to twenty points in this one. Again, if Oregon's

655
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: defense is locked in, which I imagine they will be,

656
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: so I tend to think it's going to be something

657
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: like thirty to thirteen, thirty four, seventeen, you know something

658
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: in there, just because this Washington offense hasn't been built

659
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: for a ton of success against the best teams from

660
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: the inside out, and the Washington defense, which I think

661
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: is okay, hasn't performed well well against these good teams,

662
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: and so I just think there's too much from Oregon.

663
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: There's a ton on the line for Oregon. Washington can

664
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: certainly be up for playing spoiler, but I kind of

665
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: think you need the dudes on both sides of the ball,

666
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: and I just don't think Washington has that in this moment.

667
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: Seattle's a tough place to play. I think we were

668
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: close at the half as a viewing public, but I'm

669
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: going to say Oregon runs away with this in the

670
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: second half, forces a turnover too, and quiets the crowd.

671
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Washington is good numbers, but has beaten exactly one

672
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 3: FBS team with.

673
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: A winning record, and that's sale Illinois. There's seven and four.

674
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: I already mentioned the stat about what they have done

675
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: offensively against other top ten caliber defenses in Ohio State

676
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: and Michigan, so we'll see what they can do against

677
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: an Oregon defense that's sort of in between those two.

678
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: I do think the Washington defense is good enough to

679
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: keep Oregon from running away with it, though, Okay, and

680
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: you know so, I think that kind of keeps it

681
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: in check. I also think the Oregon defense can just

682
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: overpower this offense, and again that would be more of

683
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: a continuing trend given what we have seen with Washington

684
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: against some other comparable defenses. I think Oregon eventually wins

685
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: this game. I think it's going to end up being

686
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: something like twenty eight to thirteen. You know, I don't

687
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 3: think it's going to be a runaway trainer or anything

688
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 3: like that, but I do think Oregon's going to get

689
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 3: the dub. I also think that this is the type

690
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: of situation where Dan Lanning is gonna want to try

691
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: for style points if he can get them. I don't

692
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: think he can, because I think this Washington defense is

693
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 3: good enough. But if Dan Lanning has an opportunity, it

694
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 3: wouldn't surprise me if he goes for it. Because This

695
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: is a dude who is absolutely built for any kind

696
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: of hostile rivalry. This is the guy you won on

697
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: your sidelines. If you are playing in a game like this,

698
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: or there's a just a modicum of hostility, you will

699
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: take Dan Lanning on your sidelines. He's the type of

700
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: dude who's going to get the boys fired up.

701
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: I wonder how much Jedfish will try to throw the

702
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 2: ball up and hope for a PI and use last

703
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: week's USC as a blueprint their opportunities and opportunities still

704
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: are trying those penalties. I just wonder if they're beat

705
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: up at receiver. Okay, we'll see No, this one should

706
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 2: be fun. Dan Lanning will be up for it. It's

707
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 2: you know, it's a letdown spot for organ I guess

708
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: the good news if you're an Oregon fan, just situationally

709
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: is Washington played a late night game in LA. So

710
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: it's not like Washington's coming off of a bye. It's

711
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: not like Washington's coming off of a road game in

712
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: which they're just sleeping in their own beds and getting

713
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: to start their their standard game planning week. So it

714
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: is not a short week, but a shorter week than

715
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 2: Oregon has in terms of prep. So there's something maybe there,

716
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: But I just I think Oregon is the better team

717
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: and I think they have more ways to win, and

718
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: so Washington's track record against quality defense isn't great.

719
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: So go on Oregon.

720
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: I also should point out again, if I'm being honest,

721
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 3: different were trying to be complete with our coverage here,

722
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 3: please talked about it a lot and yesterday's episode, maybe

723
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin having his head in a different spot, maybe

724
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: a different zip code altogether, depending on how that coaching

725
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: search goes down. The current betting favorite at plus one

726
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 3: ten to be the next head coach at the University

727
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: of Florida is one Jedfish really current betting favorite for

728
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 3: whatever that is worth to you, and I don't think

729
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: it's worth a whole lot, but Lane right now is

730
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 3: the betting favorite at minus one seventy five to be

731
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 3: the next head coach at LSU. Jedfish at Florida, Penn

732
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 3: State with Bob Chesney, John Summerle at Auburn, Eric Morris

733
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: at Arkansas, Tommy Reese at UCLA, Olahoma State with Alex Golesh,

734
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: and Cal with Tosh Lapoi.

735
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Speaker 1: Okay, Alex Golesh Oklahoma state. Interesting. Okay, I'm sure these changed.

736
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Speaker 1: These bet online dot Age not a sponsor.

737
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Speaker 3: Maybe they could be, but uh, I don't know whatever

738
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: that's worth to you, whatever those betting things are worth

739
00:36:59,280 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 3: to you.

740
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: Just gorowing that out. Interesting.

741
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 3: We're recording this on Tuesday midday. It's going to change

742
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: eight times by the weekend. But Foodford thought, let's stay

743
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: at three point thirty on ESPN, number fourteen, Vanderbilt at

744
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: least in the latest polls, number twenty Tennessee per the

745
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 3: latest polls, this is going to change again, but that's

746
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 3: where we're at right now time recording. Tennessee favored by

747
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 3: three and a half points. We say often that styles

748
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: make fights. This is an awesome contrast to play style.

749
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 3: We've got Vandy, one of the slowest teams in all

750
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 3: of college football. We've got Tennessee one of the fastest.

751
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: Specifically in this game, I think Vandy's going to play

752
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 3: ultra slow, ultra slow, and if they do it right,

753
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: they're going to have like forty one minutes of possession.

754
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: A run clock. I'm going to keep the ball to

755
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: keep Tennessee off the field.

756
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: I've been very good at doing this. Doesn't matter who

757
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: they play all year, been very very good at this.

758
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: If they have their druthers, this game is going to

759
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: be over in like two hours ten minutes. Right, Yeah,

760
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: that's the kind of Gig's exactly the kind of game

761
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: they want to play. A lot of ground balls, not

762
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 3: a ton of strikeouts. Nothing sexy is a run clock,

763
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 3: Get ground balls.

764
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: Let's move on.

765
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: Tennessee is a three and a half point favorite. Tennessee

766
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: has also not beaten an FBS team with a winning

767
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: record this season period period. Wow, there are three. Their

768
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 3: three losses were too good teams, right, playoff caliber teams Georgia,

769
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 3: Alabama and Oklahoma's not to say they've been getting blown

770
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: out or anything crazy, right.

771
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: But.

772
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 3: Haven't beaten a team in the FBS of they winning record.

773
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 3: That's a bit of an eyebrow raiser. Yeah, how do

774
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: you feel it is? I went back and forth in

775
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 3: this one a lot. Obviously, the home field advantage is enormous,

776
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 3: but not so enormous that they're giving a ton of

777
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: points here. Now.

778
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt is obviously very good as well. It's three and

779
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: a half points, which means that Vegas kind of thinks

780
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: this is dead even yep, And so if it's relatively even.

781
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 2: The outlook is relatively even. I think I might give

782
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: a narrow edge to Diego Pavi at quarterback over Joey Aguilar.

783
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: I think they both can run the ball. I think

784
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,959
Speaker 2: Tennessee's running backs are better when at full health.

785
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: Definitely, I agree with that. Yeah.

786
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: Defensively, both of these teams leave a lot to be desired.

787
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt has signature wins against teams that in retrospect are like,

788
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: at best decent to me, who are there, Like, we're

789
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: building up the Vanderbilt season because of you know, a

790
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: win against South comfortable win against South Carolina, or a

791
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: win against LSU, or a win against Missouri and maybe

792
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 2: a near win against Texas, But like, what is the

793
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: signature four quarter win for Vanderbilt in this moment.

794
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 3: Well, in case you're wondering, Vanderbilt has a couple wins

795
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 3: over it FBS teams. Wait, I know they do winning record,

796
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 3: but again it tell us you it's Missouri. Remember Missouri's

797
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 3: quarterback got hurt in that game. It's some close calls,

798
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 3: like could have beaten Texas on the road.

799
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: They were there with Bama late.

800
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 3: I agree, Bama was there late, but in terms of

801
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: signature wins. Yeah, I mean the signature win is probably

802
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: what they did Alabama last season, and we've since then

803
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 3: been carrying on this momentum.

804
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: They're a good team. They'll get me wrong. Yeah, But.

805
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 3: More to the point here, if we're going to bring

806
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: it up about Tennessee, we got to bring it up

807
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: about Vanderbilt as well.

808
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: I totally agree.

809
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: So then you're just like, if you think it's going

810
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: to be relatively close, like I do, it's which of

811
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks, which of these offensive coordinators, which of these

812
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 2: coaches do you trust more to make those decisions late

813
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 2: to close out this game?

814
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: And I think I'm going Vanderbilt here.

815
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: I mean, do you want to bet against Diego Pavia

816
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: in his final regular season game? I believe it will

817
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 3: be his final regular season game. I think he said

818
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: as much. He's not going to try for like a

819
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: fifteenth year, potentially with a playoff spot hanging in the balance,

820
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 3: because they're right there, there's a chance that could happen.

821
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: If they beat number whatever, number twenty Tennessee, whatever they

822
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: are in the latest college football playoff polls, which are

823
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: going to come out after we record this episode, they

824
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: could get a boost they could get a boost and

825
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: maybe jump some teams that they beat a fellow SCC competitor.

826
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: So I don't want to bet against Pavia in a

827
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 3: circumstance like that. I've got Vandy out right, I've got

828
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 3: them out. I think they're good enough to grind it

829
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: out on the ground. I think they're good enough to

830
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: get a few stops, and ultimately, I think this is

831
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: a game of clock management. Man's going to run the

832
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 3: crap out of the ball. There's a keep that clock

833
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: running the whole damn time. Try to get revenge here

834
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: on Tennessee. By the way, Tennessee won this game in

835
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: Nashville last year.

836
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, hammered them. And Vandy hasn't won this game since

837
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen.

838
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 3: So there's in terms of Vanderbilt maybe being still in

839
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: the hunt come Sunday for the College Football Playoff, they're

840
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 3: definitely stakes just within the great state of Tennessee. Yeah,

841
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 3: give me diego Pavia and the doors here to pull

842
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 3: the win.

843
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 2: I did notice, and you sort of started the season

844
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: on this that you highlighted that you like the yards

845
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: before contact stat for a rush defense. Tennessee's is incredible.

846
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: They get to these running backs very quickly. The numbers

847
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: of yards after contact is abysmal, So they'll get to you,

848
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: they just won't tackle you. Yeah, you can run through

849
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 2: Tennessee arms at will, you know, given the right circumstance.

850
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: So that's something to pay attention to, broken tackles and

851
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: yards after contact for Vandy, who's been able to generate

852
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: some of those chunk plays both through the air and

853
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: on the ground. The Tennessee defense was a playoff caliber

854
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: defense obviously last season. They're just not there this season.

855
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: A lot of it is, you know, attrition and injury

856
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: and all the stuff that has gone into Tennessee's disappointing

857
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: defense this season. But yeah, I just there's something about

858
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: the way Vandy can close. They close that shootout against

859
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: Auburn when Auburn decided to suddenly start moving the ball

860
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: with a different quarterback. I think they're going to be

861
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: able to win in a similar fashion this week. Forty

862
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: two to thirty eight Vandy. Another back and forth.

863
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: Oh, that would be a fun game, wouldn't it. It'd

864
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: be great. I don't think we're gonna see that many points.

865
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Speaker 3: If I think Vandy's gonna win, I've got it at

866
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Speaker 3: something like twenty eight to twenty seven, and he's.

867
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Speaker 1: Gonna be closed. I think it'll be lower scoring. Give

868
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 1: me the points, love them, I want the points. I'm

869
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: with you.

870
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Speaker 3: And let's talk about seven point thirty the Iron Bowl

871
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: ABC Auburn Alabama minus six on the road at the

872
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 3: Auburn Tigers. I am very wary of this game. I

873
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: am wary of it facto national championship situation for Auburn

874
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 3: with really nothing else to play for. I am wary

875
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: of DJ Durkin, knowing that he probably needs this one

876
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 3: if he even wants to sniff the opportunity of keeping

877
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 3: this job. And I think those things make for a

878
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: great rivalry matchup because you know Auburn's going to pull

879
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: out all the stops.

880
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: Dan.

881
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 3: Also, if they win, they get the six wins, which

882
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 3: you know, Bowl eligibility and a season like this where

883
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: you fired your coach and it seems like none of

884
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 3: it clicked. I don't know, it's not the worst consolation prize.

885
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 3: So Auburn is playing for something here and Alabama is two.

886
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: Alabama is playing without a net. Alabama needs this win.

887
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 3: They need this win on a whole multitude of different levels,

888
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: which I can go into detail over not the least

889
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: of which is they want to play for the SEC crown,

890
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: so of course you need to win here, Dan, where

891
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 3: are you at in this matchup?

892
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: I'm taking Bama, and I hate myself for it because

893
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 2: it's on the road. But there is something about Auburn

894
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: being better against the run than the pass, the points

895
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: they allowed to to Vanderbilt, that I think it's going

896
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: to be too much to overcome against this Bama defense.

897
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: That I think Bama should be able to move the

898
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 2: ball through the air, not with ease, but with a

899
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: good degree of comfort. And that has me scared about

900
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: picking Bama because to me, it points to Bama. Now,

901
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: you're right about that. Like Auburn with nothing to lose,

902
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: Auburn with an interim, Auburn with backs against the wall,

903
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: would love nothing more than to play spoiler in the

904
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: Iron Bowl. They've done it before, They've nearly done it

905
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: before recently, they need you know, Bama needed a miraculous

906
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: play a couple of years ago to win this game.

907
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: I want to say at Auburn, but I think the

908
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: matchup favors Alabama enough that I feel good about taking

909
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: the Tide. The reason I like Auburn in this game

910
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 2: is also at their best, and we've got basically no

911
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: sample size to this degree. You know, last week with

912
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: ducenight against Mercer than the week before with Ashton Daniels,

913
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: who I guess preserved as red shirp not playing last week,

914
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: with what he was able to do against Vanderbilt, Like,

915
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: that's super intriguing. Two terrific receivers who can cause any

916
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: defense trouble, and then a quarterback who seems more competent

917
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: in this system than what they were working with basically

918
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: the rest.

919
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: Of the year.

920
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: The problem is in that Vanderbilt game, they were also

921
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: completely lit up by Diego Pavia, And I happen to

922
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: think ty Simpson is a more advanced thrower, maybe not

923
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: a more advanced quarterback, more advanced thrower right now in

924
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: this moment, that he can generate big plays in a

925
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: way with this offense that I think I'm here for.

926
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: So I'm taking Bama. I don't love it situationally, but

927
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: I can't craft the argument for Auburn with any sort

928
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: of data beyond like it would be cool I could

929
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 2: kind of squint and see how they could do this.

930
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: There's dudes on this Auburn defense. I just think they're

931
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 2: built to stop different kinds of offenses than what Bama

932
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: is sort of intending here, So I have Bama covering.

933
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to the point like Auburn hasn't really beaten

934
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: anyone of merit unless you're counting Baylor in Week one,

935
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: and maybe you do. I don't know, but but that

936
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 3: was that was a golfers team. Ty on the golfers

937
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: team way back to say, yeah, you ever see Hugh

938
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 3: Freeze's golf swing?

939
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: By the way, how is it now? That is a

940
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: man made golf swing if I've ever seen one. Supposedly

941
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: is pretty good, but it is.

942
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: When you say man made, that means it's awkward.

943
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 3: It means that whatever you see when you watch golf

944
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 3: on a Sunday, like Rory McElroy, it doesn't look anything

945
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 3: like that. It's loopy and sort of herky jerky. It's

946
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 3: man made. It's his own iteration of it. But it

947
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 3: supposedly pretty smokes a swing or swing anyway. Listen, the

948
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: story of the Auburn season has basically been that they're

949
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 3: within ten points of every loss they've had, So Auburn's

950
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 3: not getting blown out. There's enough talent on this team

951
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: to avoid getting blown out. Right, they're just not winning.

952
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: And that's to y.

953
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 3: Hugh Freeze is no longer coaching this team and it

954
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 3: is probably out in the golf course right now. So

955
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: I think if the trend holds, Alabama minus six is

956
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: probably the right number. You can make a very easy

957
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: case for that because Auburn's in these games, they just

958
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: don't win. The obvious mismatch for me, excuse me, is

959
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: the Alabama passing offense against the Auburn pass defense. And

960
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 3: that jumps off the spreadsheet. Man, I mean that is

961
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 3: bright red. Over the course of the season. Auburn's also

962
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: been a very shaky tackling team, So you combine those

963
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 3: two things and it's not hard to find ourselves in

964
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 3: the middle of a Yak attack. Which is something I

965
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 3: just made up and I'm sure other people have said before,

966
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 3: But congratulation between Ryan Williams and Jeremy Bernard. Get them

967
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 3: the ball in space, let them do their thing.

968
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: In theory. That should work pretty well for Auburn in

969
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: this game. Or four.

970
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that should work against Auburn. That should work for

971
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 3: Alabama in this game. Yeah, And I think we're going

972
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 3: to see a lot of that the X factor though,

973
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 3: and I am intensely interested in this storyline.

974
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 1: Duce Knight.

975
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 3: Duce Knight played last week for Auburn at quarterback against Mercer,

976
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: your beautiful Mercer Bears. Yes, went off, went crazy.

977
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: I like to read.

978
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: The postgame reports from our friend Cole Kubulick out on Twitter,

979
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 3: where he goes through every SEC team talks about what

980
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 3: they did well, what they didn't do well, who caught

981
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 3: his eye, And one of the things that caught his

982
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 3: eye about Duce Knight was how calm he looked. Again,

983
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 3: it's just Mercer, I get it, yeah, but very calm.

984
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 3: Knew when to pull the ball down, knew when to

985
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 3: run it. I was a huge Deuce Knight fan through

986
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 3: the recruiting process and I was like crestfallen when he

987
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 3: decommitted from Notre Dame.

988
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: I really wanted to Notre Dame. The gaet him.

989
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 3: I understand why you left. He wanted to play. I

990
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: think he is absolutely the real deal. I know that

991
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: Auburn is going to play multiple quarterbacks in this game,

992
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 3: at least that's the early report. But I think deuced

993
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 3: Knight's running ability is something to watch when he's in

994
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: there because he definitely brings an X factor to this

995
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 3: game that clearly was not part of other Auburn games

996
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 3: that we've talked about throughout the course of the season.

997
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 3: Even looking back, wasn't part of any of those games.

998
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 3: I think Auburn is going to do what Auburn does,

999
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 3: and they're going to find a way to keep this

1000
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 3: game close and give themselves.

1001
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: A shot to win. Wow.

1002
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 3: And bear in mind, this is a very good this

1003
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 3: is a playoff caliber, is an SEC championship caliber Alabama team.

1004
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 3: But this is still a dangerous Auburn roster and they've

1005
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 3: got a ton of talent. Auburn Tiger's Home Dog of the.

1006
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: Week, the Yakos Home Dog of the Week. Wow. I mean,

1007
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: I don't hate the pick.

1008
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: I really had to strain to figure out how I

1009
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: felt about this game, just because the number of opponents

1010
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: that Alabama has played that you're like, this is how

1011
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: this is the measuring stick. They beat this team by fourteen,

1012
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: by twenty four, whatever, and that tells me that they

1013
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: have another gear. I didn't see that that often. Like

1014
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 2: the in retrospect season that Alabama has had is still

1015
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: kind of mixed to me, and so I don't feel

1016
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 2: like they're a machine on any level.

1017
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: I just I think it's a good matchup. Let me

1018
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: let me stop you right there.

1019
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I have Auburn outright, outright. I have them twenty

1020
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 3: six to twenty three winning this game outright at home.

1021
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: Wow.

1022
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 3: Okay, that'd be something. How does that affect the SEC?

1023
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: Mathematically speaking? The odds are ever in the favor of

1024
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: Texas A and M, who is a slight favorite over

1025
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 3: Texas and Alabama. Just talked about Alabama being a favorite

1026
00:51:55,400 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 3: over Auburn. All right, Alabama wins, they're in Texas A

1027
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 3: and M wins, they are it. If one of those

1028
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 3: two teams loses, that's when things get a little bit murky.

1029
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: It would require a loss from either Texas A and

1030
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 3: M or Alabama in order to get Georgia into the

1031
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: SEC title game. Also, if you're an old Mis fan,

1032
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 3: I'm not sure you're rooting at this point to get

1033
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 3: into that SEC Championship game. Don't know if that really

1034
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 3: means anything to you. Personally, I'd prefer they not play

1035
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 3: in that game. But if Old Miss wins on Friday,

1036
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 3: if Texas A and M loses, and if Alabama loses.

1037
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 3: If all of those things happen, that's how Old Miss

1038
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: gets into the SEC Championship game.

1039
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: All that clear, you got it, I got it all.

1040
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 3: Let's go through some of the other action here in

1041
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 3: Rivalry Week, Dan, we have a bunch of games. I

1042
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 3: want to go through the super rapid fire. In some cases,

1043
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: we just want to call out that there's a rivalry.

1044
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 3: These are fun games, man, Let's travel back in time

1045
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 3: if we can to. Friday a bunch of games here,

1046
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 3: just to put on the radar.

1047
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: We previewed three.

1048
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 3: Big ones on the last episode High Noon CBS. They

1049
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 3: call it the Hero's Game. They play for the Hero Trophy.

1050
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 3: It is the Iowah Hawk guys minus five and a

1051
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 3: half points on the road at Nebraska, Dan, I think

1052
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 3: Iowa is going to destroy Nebraska. I'm not sure I

1053
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 3: understand this point spread. I know you know Iowa is

1054
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 3: not necessarily prone to big time blowouts, but I'm just

1055
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 3: not sure where Nebraska's at right now.

1056
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 1: So give me Iowa.

1057
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you here, just because Nebraska's passing attack.

1058
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: Not that Iowa's boasting anything of their own that's so terrific,

1059
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: but throwing into this Iowa defense it would be highly

1060
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: poetic for Iowa to go eight and four once again

1061
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 2: with zero passing game, essentially and throwing into this Iowa defense.

1062
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 1: I have Iowa buy a couple of touchdowns here.

1063
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 3: Let's move on, Dan, Let's talk about Indiana versus Perdue,

1064
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 3: seven thirty NBC, the Old Oaken Bucket. Indiana favored by

1065
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 3: twenty eight and one half points. Tould be a great

1066
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: time for the spoiler makers to jump in here, great

1067
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 3: time for the spoiler makers to jump in here and

1068
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 3: cause a stir. But any reason to go against Indiana

1069
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 3: here to win and cover?

1070
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: There's a big drum tie. There's a big trum drum

1071
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: in play here, and Indiana cannot match drum size. No,

1072
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: I look for reasons because Indiana's played a couple close games,

1073
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: but these are against teams with impressive defenses in Wisconsin

1074
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: and Penn State. I just and it wasn't even that

1075
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 2: close obviously against Wisconsin.

1076
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: I think I'm with you. Let's move on.

1077
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 3: Let's go to another big one nine pm on Fox.

1078
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 3: Arizona minus point point and a half on the road

1079
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 3: against Arizona State in the Territorial Cup. The Territorial Cup

1080
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 3: might be my favorite trophy, if only because they lost

1081
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 3: it in a church basement in Tempe for like one

1082
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 3: hundred years before they found it. And now they give

1083
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 3: out a rep booka to whoever wins this game. But

1084
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 3: this is a big one this year. You know, a

1085
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: year ago, I remember looking at this one like Arizona

1086
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 3: was a mess. We were talking like maybe they could

1087
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 3: even fire Brenton Prennan in one year. But Arizona has

1088
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 3: rebounded in a really significant way. They're playing great defense,

1089
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 3: They're on the verge of nine to three, and Arizona

1090
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,479
Speaker 3: State still sort of has an outside chance at making

1091
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 3: the Big twelve title game. I don't think it's likely,

1092
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 3: but there are possibilities that could put them in that circumstance.

1093
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 3: I'm all in on Arizona, man, I'm just I think

1094
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 3: they're playing with momentum right now. They're playing with confidence.

1095
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 3: I think the defense is super impressive. I like them

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00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 3: to go on the road and win.

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00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: I think I do too.

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00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: I think I don't trust the ASU passing game right now.

1099
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: And there's just something about the Arizona defense that is

1100
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: forcing mistakes, that is getting offenses off the field, and

1101
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're running the ball well, Noah

1102
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: Fafida has limited the mistakes.

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00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:01,439
Speaker 1: I just think they've been.

1104
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 2: Good home and away. Obviously there's a lot of emotion

1105
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: tied up in this game. Jordan Tyson came back for

1106
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 2: ASU obviously a feather in their cap against I think

1107
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: it was Colorado last week, had a couple bigger catches,

1108
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: So that's something in terms of a help for Jeff

1109
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 2: Simms in this ASU passing game. I just think right now,

1110
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: the Arizona defense is the best thing in this game,

1111
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: and it's who I trust the most. I think they're

1112
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: winning this one again outright. I think dout Arizona at

1113
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: your own peril.

1114
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 3: Let's go to Saturday high noon ESPN number five Texas

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00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 3: Tech minus twenty and one half points on the road

1116
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 3: at West Virginia.

1117
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: Any danger here for.

1118
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: Tech, Yes, but not for four quarters. I could see it.

1119
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: I mean, look, West Virginia as well coached. They found

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00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: a quarterback this season in Scottie Fox to succeed. I

1121
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: just I don't know. The Texas Tech defense is just

1122
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 2: too good for me. I think it's going to travel.

1123
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: They had a bye week last week, if I remember correctly,

1124
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: so it seems like an opportune by situation to get

1125
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 2: rested for their home stretch of the season with this

1126
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: with the Big two probable Big twelve Championship game, winning

1127
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 2: this game and what looks like a playoff berth, I mean,

1128
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: I don't know how that they they really have to

1129
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: collapse to not make the playoff at this point. So

1130
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 2: I'm going Texas Tech pretty huge in this one because

1131
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 2: that's the track record we have with them.

1132
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: It is, Yeah, and I think I'm with you.

1133
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'd feel great about laying basically

1134
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 3: twenty one points.

1135
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: It's a lot.

1136
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 3: It's a lot in Morgantown, tough place to play, but

1137
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 3: I'm just not there with West.

1138
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm not there with West Virginia.

1139
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 3: I think Tech wins and all they do is all

1140
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 3: they do to get into that Big twelve Championship game

1141
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 3: is win, right, you win her everything's good when you're in.

1142
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1143
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 3: So right now, the likely game in the Big twelve

1144
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 3: Championship is looking like Texas Tech against BYU. The odds

1145
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 3: are kind of all on that side. BYU clinches with

1146
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 3: the win, Texas Tech clinches with the win. Obviously, Arizona

1147
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 3: State could get in, but they got to beat Arizona.

1148
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 3: They need Texas Tech to lose, they need Utah to lose,

1149
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 3: they need BYU to win, or they need to win.

1150
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 3: They need BYU to lose and you Taugh to lose

1151
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 3: or Arizona State wins. They need Texas Tech to lose

1152
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 3: and BYU to lose and you Taught to win. So

1153
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 3: there's a lot that could go on even you talk

1154
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 3: to get in. Yeah, I'm not going to talk through

1155
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 3: any more of these. It doesn't lend itself well to

1156
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 3: the audio only format. But just know that right now,

1157
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 3: if you're a Texas Tech fan, you got the inside track.

1158
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 3: If you're a BYU fan, you got the inside track.

1159
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 3: Let's go to high Noon ACC Network Kentucky on the

1160
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 3: road at Louisville. They called this one the Governor's Cup

1161
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 3: Dan Louisville favorite. I'm not sure why I am on Kentucky.

1162
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 3: I'm worried that Louisville might be the one two three

1163
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 3: can Coon team of the week right now with all

1164
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,439
Speaker 3: their injuries, and I don't know just what we saw

1165
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 3: from a week ago.

1166
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I looked at this one inside.

1167
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: The sound I made when I saw the line, when

1168
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: I saw this matchup was I don't know how you

1169
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 2: quantify that sound, but yeah, I am going to go

1170
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: with Kentucky apprehensively. But I'm going Kentucky just because I

1171
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 2: think the best of the improvement of their offense and

1172
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: where Louisville is in terms of, as you mentioned, injuries

1173
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: and roster right now, I think I'm going Kentucky. The

1174
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: second half of the season has been nice for Kentucky.

1175
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: Last week not ideal. Yeah, I'm going Cats.

1176
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 3: Here twelve o'clock ineon SEC Network the poll Meadow Bowl,

1177
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 3: Dan Clemson at South Carolina. South Carolina favored by two

1178
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 3: and a half points at home. I have no idea.

1179
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 3: Let me just be real with you. I have no

1180
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 3: idea who to pick in this game. I get the

1181
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: point spread should be a close points spread. I don't

1182
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 3: know what to make a Clemson. I do not know

1183
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 3: what to make of South Carolina right now, So I

1184
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 3: could be swayed one way or another. How about I

1185
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 3: just go opposite of you.

1186
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go South Carolina. Yeah, I'm gonna go

1187
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: South Carolina at home. I think, once again, winning as

1188
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 2: a skill that Clemson doesn't currently possess all that often.

1189
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: If this game is relatively close, because both of these

1190
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 2: teams are pretty flawed. I think what South Carolina could

1191
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 2: potentially do on defense to Forest mistakes is interesting.

1192
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,479
Speaker 1: I like that we're a little bit removed from.

1193
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 2: The Texas A and M moment for South Carolina, but

1194
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: you could still see the best of South Carolina on

1195
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: displaying that game. They haven't been blown out, as it's

1196
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 2: been a very disappointing season, but they do compete. They

1197
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: have stayed locked in even though it's been a pretty

1198
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 2: horrendous experience this year. I'm sure for South Carolina fans

1199
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: and for Clemson fans, the games at home game is

1200
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 2: still massively important.

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Speaker 1: I'm going South Carolina.

1202
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 3: Go to three thirty Battle Line Rivalry, This one also

1203
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 3: on SEC Network. This is Missouri minus two and a

1204
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 3: half on the road at Arkansas.

1205
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: Give me Miszoo.

1206
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 3: I think they might run for five hundred yards against Arkansas.

1207
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a great matchup because they get the

1208
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: Arkansas defense, and anytime anybody has the Arkansas defense, it's

1209
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: a great matchup.

1210
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: So I'm going to Miszoo here.

1211
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 3: Three thirty FS one Wisconsin at Minnesota. Minnesota favor but

1212
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 3: only slightly. They played this one for Paul Bunyan's Acts.

1213
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,919
Speaker 3: Is Wisconsin having a little bit of a rebirth right now?

1214
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 3: Is this something that we're actually seeing or are they

1215
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 3: just playing bad teams?

1216
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: Well? They beat Illinois, did they not? Mere days? I

1217
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: mean maybe you think Illinois is a bad team. I

1218
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm asking.

1219
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 2: I don't think Illinois bad. I thought they were overrated

1220
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 2: heading into the season. I think the Wisconsin defense is

1221
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 2: legitimately good. They've given a lot of teams trouble, at

1222
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: least for long stretches of the game. I like Wisconsin

1223
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: here Minnesota as a story as a team this year,

1224
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 2: it's flown under the radar a little bit, but in

1225
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 2: the acts game, I'm kind of always gonna feel good

1226
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: about Wisconsin. But they've flown under the radar as one

1227
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 2: of the more disappointing teams. They don't really do anything well.

1228
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: They had to win against Nebraska, which I thought was

1229
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: largely situational with Nebraska coming off that I think was

1230
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 2: a close comeback win against Maryland and staying on the

1231
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 2: road in a short week. But aside from that, I

1232
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 2: think Minnesota is one of the more under the radar

1233
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: disappointing programs this year, and so I'm on Wisconsin here.

1234
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 2: I think they've got momentum and belief. Even though the

1235
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 2: offense isn't going to do much.

1236
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll take much.

1237
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 3: This is the point in time where I mentioned that

1238
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 3: I do have pre scheduled as I have since the

1239
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 3: very beginning of this season.

1240
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: That's true.

1241
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 3: The Minnesota Golden Gophers support call a zoom call that

1242
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 3: all are welcome to attend December the seventeenth, at eight

1243
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 3: pm Eastern time. It will be me and it will

1244
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 3: be Gophers fans from around the good old US of

1245
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 3: A and frankly the globe, depending on time zones. If

1246
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 3: you are interested in being part of that call, you

1247
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 3: can email me. I have not sent out all the

1248
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 3: invites yet, but I'm looking at it right now on

1249
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 3: my calendar. I have not forgotten about it. If you emailed,

1250
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 3: I will find you and we will make sure you

1251
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 3: have the link. Okay, is this sort of Gopher is anonymous?

1252
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: Is that going to be the name?

1253
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 3: Like?

1254
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 2: Hi, my name is Mike. I'm a Minnesota grad two

1255
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 2: thousand and seven.

1256
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: Hi, Mike.

1257
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: Is it going to be that kind of vibe?

1258
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 3: I mean sure, yeah, it can be whatever we want

1259
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 3: it to be, but I just thought it would be

1260
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 3: appropriate to recognize this fan base, which I feel like

1261
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 3: is in this same exact spot every year. And I

1262
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 3: am in that spot too because I've been rooting for

1263
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 3: this team. Okay, this is again not I say this

1264
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 3: all the time. It is not a dunk contest. I

1265
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 3: feel for Minnesota people because I am rooting for Minnesota

1266
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 3: and I just I think we're always here.

1267
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: I'm going Wisconsin as well. I'm with you, just so

1268
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 2: we have this on the record. Sky you Mononymous.

1269
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: That's not bad. That's not bad, not bad. I like it.

1270
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 3: Okay, three thirty on Fox Cincinnati at TCU. TCU favored

1271
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 3: by about a field goal since he has lost three straight, now,

1272
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 3: haven't they they have? I'm on TCU.

1273
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 2: I'm on TCU as well. They stop the run. It's

1274
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 2: a good matchup for them. Games at home, right, games

1275
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 2: at home? Yeah, games in Fort Worth. I'm going TCU

1276
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: at home. Their defense hasn't been great this year, but

1277
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: I like that they were able to get a quality win.

1278
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: Again. I believe Houston last week in a low scoring affair.

1279
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 2: So anytime TCU doesn't give up a ton of points

1280
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: to a quality team, I think to myself, maybe just maybe.

1281
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: They could do it two weeks in a row.

1282
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm a fool. No, I'm going to

1283
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 2: TCU here. I think they're able to get it done

1284
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: at home.

1285
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 3: Victory Bell Game four thirty NBC, Ucla at USC USC.

1286
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: Favored by twenty one points.

1287
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: That's a lot of points in a letdown spot for USC,

1288
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 2: that's a lot of I really was looking for reasons

1289
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 2: to take Ucla in the points, not outright, but taking

1290
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: the points. Ucla has been abysmal lately. They've been blown out.

1291
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,439
Speaker 2: They were blown out by Washington at home. This game

1292
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 2: is I mean, obviously in la it's always in la Ish.

1293
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 2: I'm going USC here to cover. I just think they're

1294
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 2: going to be able to force mistakes. As much as

1295
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 2: it is a letdown spot, as disappointing as last week

1296
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: was for the Trojans, I think this is a game

1297
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 2: they're always going to be up for, so I think,

1298
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 2: especially on the ground, they're going to be able to

1299
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 2: dictate a good amount.

1300
01:04:58,960 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah give me USC.

1301
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 3: I'm on us see here, Okay, a couple more games

1302
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 3: and then we'll round third head for home. On this

1303
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 3: rivalry week, we've got Florida Florida State, also at four thirty.

1304
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 3: They call it Sunshine Showdowns on ESPN two. Florida is

1305
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 3: favored by about a field goal Dan over Florida State.

1306
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 3: Florida State announced earlier this week that they are retaining

1307
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 3: Mike Norvell. I don't know if that has any bearing

1308
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 3: whatsoever in this football game, but it's worth noting. We

1309
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 3: will see which direction that Florida decides to go. Obviously

1310
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 3: a lot of that hinges on what Lane Kiffin decides. Dan,

1311
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 3: who you got Florida State here? I do like Florida State.

1312
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 3: I know they can and have lost in comical ways,

1313
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 3: but I don't know.

1314
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 2: Florida just seems so snake bitten in this moment. That

1315
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 2: part of being snake bitten is going to be defined

1316
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 2: by losing to this year's Florida State, in which everybody

1317
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 2: is begging for Norvelle to be fired and he's kept

1318
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: and Florida can't even beat them.

1319
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm going Florida State.

1320
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 3: I'm on Florida, man, I'm on farm. I'm still tantalized

1321
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 3: by the talent that they've got on that roster, even

1322
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 3: despite the fact that it's gone way off the rails.

1323
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: Give me the Gators at home. Why not?

1324
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 3: Okay, a couple more games ESPN seven o'clock Commonwealth Cup

1325
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech at Virginia Remember Virginia wins there in Baby

1326
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 3: going to the ACC title game. Great season regardless, but

1327
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 3: against all odds, you go to the a SEC title

1328
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 3: game with a shot at the playoff.

1329
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: That's a very, very big deal.

1330
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 3: They are favored by about eleven points at home against

1331
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech just made it official they're going

1332
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 3: to be getting James Franklin.

1333
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: Still feel very weird to me. Yep.

1334
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 3: So I don't know if maybe they're playing for the

1335
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 3: upset here, playing for their new coach, trying to make

1336
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 3: an impression. I don't know if that's even a thing

1337
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 3: now in the air of the transfer portal, but probably not.

1338
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 3: I am going to go Virginia here to seal the deal,

1339
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 3: but not to cover, not to cover.

1340
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: I think.

1341
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 3: I think the Who's will get the win, and they

1342
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 3: are at home. But I think Virginia, when you attack

1343
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 3: with the opportunity to maybe play spoiler, makes this game

1344
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 3: interesting for a good chunk of time.

1345
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm with you.

1346
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 2: I think Virginia winning this game outright is a no brainer.

1347
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 2: They're coming off of a bye week, a great time

1348
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 2: to get healthier. Love the win against Duke. I like

1349
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 2: Virginia here a good amount, but I think Tech makes

1350
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 2: it close.

1351
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: Seven point thirty. The Land of Lincoln Trophy. You go

1352
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: into this game, you should.

1353
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 3: This game is in champagn or at Wrigley. It's in Champagne.

1354
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 3: I believe that I am not going to this game.

1355
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: No, I actually don't know. I should have looked at that.

1356
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 3: But regardless, We've got Illinois listed as the home team,

1357
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 3: a six and a half point favorite over Northwestern. Gimme

1358
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,479
Speaker 3: Illinois baby luck of the week.

1359
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: I think they may murder Northwestern in this game. I

1360
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: don't know, man, Illinois is not great. You think Northwestern's great?

1361
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 2: I mean they scored thirty eight points last week going

1362
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 2: to a bowl game against Minnesota. Against Minnesota, I mean,

1363
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 2: Illinois just lost to Wisconsin. I'm just gonna take the

1364
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 2: points in this one. I'm just happy to take the points.

1365
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: I just think Northwestern will ugly it up enough. Good linebackers.

1366
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 2: They've been able to move the ball more and more.

1367
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 2: I think they ugly it up just enough to cover.

1368
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 1: Illinois is gonna win this one. By like fourteen points. Okay,

1369
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: probably a stretch to say it, they're gonna murder them,

1370
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: But I just I don't know. I'm not in on

1371
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: Northwestern here.

1372
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 3: Eight pm, ESPN two, SMU minus ten and a half

1373
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 3: points on the road at Kalikal just fired the coach.

1374
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 3: That definitely works the SMU's favor as they go to

1375
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 3: the hinter lands. SMU wins and they are also in

1376
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 3: to that ACC championship game. Right now, I feel, just

1377
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 3: from my vantage point from my chair as a former

1378
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 3: SMU super fan circa twenty twenty four, if I am,

1379
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 3: I am betting on SMU winning the ACC and going

1380
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 3: to the college football playoff. Right now feels like they've

1381
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 3: got a lot of momentum. They had a nice win

1382
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 3: a week ago by thirty two points over Louisville. I

1383
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 3: think SMU goes. I think they get the job done

1384
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 3: on the road at Cal. Don't know where Cal's going

1385
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 3: to be at given now that they lost the coach.

1386
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 3: I think they win, I think they cover, and I

1387
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 3: think they go to that ACC title game.

1388
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.

1389
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,480
Speaker 2: I think SMU is just rounding into shape too successfully

1390
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 2: right now. On both sides of the ball and the

1391
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: cal defense is just tasty. So I'm going to go

1392
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 2: with SMU here as well.

1393
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 3: Nine pm, CBS Sports Network, UNLV minus nine and a

1394
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 3: half points on the Road at Nevada. I just brought

1395
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 3: this one up because it's the Battle for the Fremont

1396
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 3: Cannon and awesome name and awesome rivalry story if you

1397
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 3: go and read about the Battle for the Fremont canon.

1398
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 3: I tried to include a couple of those here as

1399
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:52,839
Speaker 3: we talk.

1400
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: Through them all.

1401
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 3: There are a bunch more, but all of these rivalry games,

1402
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 3: I would say, pretty much without exception, have very bizarre trophies,

1403
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 3: are very bizarre origin stories that are definitely worth reading

1404
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 3: up on if you're into college football, and this is

1405
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 3: definitely one of them.

1406
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: Give me you and LV minus the number. I like

1407
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: you and LV big yeah. Yes.

1408
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 3: And last, but certainly not least, ten thirty Eastern time

1409
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 3: on ESPN. Number nine Notre Dame minus thirty three points

1410
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 3: on the road at Stanford, Dan. They play for the

1411
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 3: Legends Trophy. There is no good reason to think that

1412
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 3: Notre Dame's not going to run this one up on Stanford.

1413
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,679
Speaker 3: But some of us are old enough to remember Stanford

1414
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 3: ruining Notre Dame seasons of your so give me Notre

1415
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 3: Dame minus the number, Notre Dame minus whatever. I think

1416
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 3: they continue the trend. I think they know style points matter.

1417
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 3: They got a bunch of them last week. I'm looking

1418
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 3: for more this week against the Cardinal. You don't think

1419
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 3: the ghost of Stephen Taylor. Actually, I'm worried about the

1420
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 3: ghost goal line. I'm worried about the ghost.

1421
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I'm going to go. I'm gonna go Notre

1422
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 1: Dame as well.

1423
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: Stanford defensively all they have taken a step forward. It

1424
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 2: isn't a kind of a letdown spot after the big win,

1425
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 2: the big game or the game against Cal. I'm just

1426
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 2: gonna go Notre Dame. Here, by the way, should also

1427
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 2: mention we've got New Mexico San Diego State with real

1428
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: Mountain West implications. Yep, huge game, absolutely watching that game.

1429
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 2: And Thursday night we have Navy Memphis.

1430
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: Do we not huge American Conference implications there? Yes?

1431
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,799
Speaker 3: And I think Memphis has won something like five of six.

1432
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 3: But the sixth.

1433
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: Tie You've got to go all the way back.

1434
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: To twenty twenty four with Navy dropping like fifty six

1435
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 2: points or something on Memphis Memphis with a week off,

1436
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 2: they've lost two in a row. I'm gonna go with

1437
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 2: Memphis at home to get things right against Navy.

1438
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: But this is must watch as well. Thursday Night. Yeah, man,

1439
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: Thursday Night TV.

1440
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 3: If you're digesting the turkey or whatever you eat on Thanksgiving,

1441
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 3: if you celebrate, flip this game on. It does have

1442
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:03,759
Speaker 3: title implication. There are three teams basically with the shots

1443
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 3: still in the American those being two Lane in North

1444
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 3: Texas Tu Lane in North Texas. Both have the inside track,

1445
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 3: but Navy could definitely play a part as well. It

1446
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 3: would come down to it would require, I should say,

1447
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 3: a three way tie that would take into account playoff

1448
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 3: rankings and all sorts of jets.

1449
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,759
Speaker 1: Right, people don't.

1450
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 3: Really care about that enough for me to talk through

1451
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 3: all the scenarios, though I have them in front of me.

1452
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 3: Let's just say that right now, if you're in North Texas,

1453
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 3: if you're a two Lane fan, you stand to be

1454
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 3: in a very beneficial position should you just do what

1455
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 3: you're supposed to do and win this weekend.

1456
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 2: But also if you don't care about the NFL, everybody's

1457
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 2: going to be watching Navy Memphis.

1458
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna be watching absolutely love that for them.

1459
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 3: Okay, go out to dinner on Saturday. Go out to

1460
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 3: dinner on Saturday if you need to. If you feel

1461
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 3: like like me, maybe you didn't do enough to prepare

1462
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 3: the house for hosting on Thanksgiving.

1463
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: Oh and if you're a little bit worried that your

1464
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: wonderful beautiful wife named Kate may have an axe to

1465
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: grind with.

1466
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 3: You could be anybody, could be anybody talking about I'm

1467
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 3: just using an example here. Yeah, if you might be

1468
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 3: in a situation like that, maybe consider taking whoever out

1469
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 3: for a wonderful dinner on Saturday evening. But just make

1470
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 3: sure you're back at a respectable hour, because I think

1471
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 3: the iron ball is going to be weird.

1472
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: Obviously I picked Auburn to win the game.

1473
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 2: Out right, Where would you say somebody with a wonderful,

1474
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 2: beautiful wife Kate was most negligent in their Thanksgiving prep

1475
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 2: are you expected to dust? Vacuum mop swift, swiffer swift.

1476
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 3: We've put a list together now. I was really good

1477
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 3: about it last year. Last year, I was.

1478
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: I was on the ball. Yeah, I'll be honest.

1479
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 3: I didn't even know this week was Thanksgiving until like

1480
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 3: Saturday afternoon. Great okay, because you know, like we're so

1481
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 3: in the world here and kind of doing this thing,

1482
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 3: and I looked at the calendar. I was like, oh

1483
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 3: my god, this is going to be a problem. So

1484
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 3: I have been negligent on multiple fronts. I have been

1485
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 3: trying to make up for lost time. I am going

1486
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 3: to work my ass off on Wednesday to make sure

1487
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 3: that everything is spick and spanning in top notch shape.

1488
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 3: We do have the sheet, the spreadsheet that I'm going

1489
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 3: to work off of as well, So I'm doing my part.

1490
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 3: But this is not about me. This is about the

1491
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:35,759
Speaker 3: reboler hood.

1492
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:36,839
Speaker 1: That's true.

1493
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 3: And so if you are in that situation and if

1494
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 3: you feel like you need to pay back the hard

1495
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 3: work of a partner or a friend or whoever, the

1496
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 3: time to go and get out and be amongst the

1497
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,799
Speaker 3: people would not be on Friday.

1498
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,719
Speaker 1: Don't go there in black Friday. It's a zoo.

1499
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but go on Saturday, go to nice dinner, go

1500
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 3: early early afternoon before the restaurants fill up, and then

1501
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 3: get back in time to see the end of the

1502
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 3: arm bowl. Okay, right right, yep, that makes sense. And

1503
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 3: uh yeah, get that shopping in.

1504
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: Early, get it in early. Yeah, Okay, we don't have

1505
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 1: any Black Friday specials, do we us? No, we don't.

1506
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 3: Okay, this is the Blacks especially. You're getting this for free.

1507
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: Cool love it.

1508
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 3: Dan rub has seen safe travels back home. Thank you

1509
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 3: your neck of the woods in the Chicago Burbs. I

1510
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 3: believe you'll be hopping on the bird tomorrow. We're recording

1511
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 3: this on Tuesday. Yep, headed back home, So we'll see

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Speaker 3: you in your normal studio on Saturday night when we

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Speaker 3: do our recap episode live on YouTube. Don't forget to

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Speaker 3: tune in hit subscribes that you can chat along with everybody.

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Speaker 3: Give us a call at eighty five to five verbal three.

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Speaker 3: One bit of housekeeping on the reverbs.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready.

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Speaker 3: I haven't talked about this with you. I haven't really

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Speaker 3: talked about this with anybody. Over the long long run

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Speaker 3: of our reverbs, the last reverb segment of every season

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01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 3: is at the conclusion of rivalry week. We don't get

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Speaker 3: the same level of passion for conference championships. Half the time,

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01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 3: people aren't even watching them unless your team's involved or

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Speaker 3: your college football sickle like us. But we just don't

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Speaker 3: have the same amount of fervor.

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Speaker 1: Nobody does.

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Speaker 3: Nobody who does this does that's true once we get

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Speaker 3: the bowl season, once we get to the playoffs, it's

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Speaker 3: just a fewer number of teams that are participating. We've

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Speaker 3: got a subset as opposed to the whole college football

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Speaker 3: watching public. I am considering retiring the reverbs permanently. Whoa permanently?

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Speaker 3: Why what you're thinking here? Takes a lot of work

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Speaker 3: to put them together. Yeah, shape busses ass late at

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Speaker 3: night to put them together for little to no pay,

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Speaker 3: just because he likes them.

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Speaker 2: Everybody else has already copied the idea. Everybody else is

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Speaker 2: already two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 3: Think all of our other segments that people copy and

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Speaker 3: take as their own. The reverbs has been copied time

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Speaker 3: and time again. The reverbs itself was copied from sports

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Speaker 3: radio back in the day, so we just kind of

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01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 3: put our spin on it, and since then other people

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01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 3: have iterated on it as well. I'm just thinking that

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01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,799
Speaker 3: we might be able to use that segment in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six in some other way. We still want to

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Speaker 3: make sure that the bowler hood is included.

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Speaker 1: Can we? And I'm just throwing out ideas here.

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Speaker 2: There are no bad ideas can we do a weekly

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01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 2: reverb next season, but open up the reverbline only if

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Speaker 2: you can prove your name is Susan and you live

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Speaker 2: in Stillwater, Oklahoma. Or only if your name is Larry

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Speaker 2: and you live in Tacoma, Washington. Or only if your

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Speaker 2: name is Brad and you live in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure we have the bandwidth for that level

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Speaker 3: of verification.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, Okay, interesting to think about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying we're gonna get rid of the reverb line, right,

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01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 3: but the reverb seg a lot.

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Speaker 1: Like people don't even know.

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Speaker 3: There's only a few number, a very small number of

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Speaker 3: people on this planet. Yeah, that understand the level.

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Speaker 1: Of effort to put that together. That's true.

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Speaker 3: That Yeah, that late at night, so you might as

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Speaker 3: well get it in now, get it, get it in man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what Ty has been saying all season. Wend

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Speaker 2: oubt Ty hilden Brand says.

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Speaker 1: You got to get it in. Eight three is the number. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this could be your last chance, could be.

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Speaker 3: Give us a buzz, leave us a voice message as

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01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,919
Speaker 3: you're watching the games on Thursday and Friday on Saturday,

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01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,480
Speaker 3: and we'll do our recap on Sunday and include that okay.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait.

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Speaker 1: Of course.

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Speaker 3: Forballers dot Com is where you can go if you

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Speaker 3: want to add free episodes bonus content. As part of

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Speaker 3: the bonus content that we're putting out this week, we're

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Speaker 3: doing some reruns. We're going to replay the history of

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Speaker 3: the soliverbal episode that we did in twenty seventeen, as

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Speaker 3: well as the Mysterious day Job Special that we recorded

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Speaker 3: July twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: When I left the day job to focus on this badness.

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Speaker 1: Those are great all time episode, two of them, Get

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Speaker 1: two of them this week. Man, Well, the what's it called?

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Speaker 2: That hasn't been public, right, neither the Mysterious day Job

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Speaker 2: that is not public.

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Speaker 1: That's not public.

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Speaker 3: The history is I'm just going to rerun that for

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01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 3: people who subscribe and maybe can't find it, right, But yeah,

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Speaker 3: Mysterious day Job Special is just going to be a retread.

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Speaker 1: Love it, Dan Rubenstein, Safe travels back. Happy Thanksgiving to

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Speaker 1: one and all. If you celebrate out there.

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01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,799
Speaker 3: Thank you again for making us part of your college

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Speaker 3: football experience. We will be back on Saturday night at

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Speaker 3: midnine Eastern time.

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Speaker 1: We're going to recap the conclusion of the college football

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Speaker 1: regular season. Yes for that guy there, Dan Rubinstein, I

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Speaker 1: myself Die Hew. The brand will talk to you us

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Speaker 1: Sin stay so peace

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Speaker 3: Mhm