1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybak here for this Wednesday, the seventh 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: of June in London. Coming up today in. 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: Search of a special relationship, Sinak heads to the White 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: House for talks with Biden. 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: An ecological weapon of mass destruction. Ukraine's economy minister tells 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Russia is to blame for destroying a key. 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: Down a growing crypto crackdown, the sec accusers, Coinbase of 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: running an illegal exchange, no. 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: Way for Huaweih and homes under the hammer. Those of 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: the stories we're looking at in today's papers. I'm James Wilcock. 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: Plus putting rivalries aside. The PGA agrees to merge with Live, 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: creating a global golf superpower. 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 4: That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. The business 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 4: news you need to start your day in just one 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 4: fifteen minute podcast on Apple, Spotify, the Bloomberg Business App 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 4: and everywhere you get your podcasts. 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: Good morning. I'm Stephen Carroll and. 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,279 Speaker 1: I'm Caroline Hepger. Here are the stories that we're following today. 19 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: The Prime Minister is she Sunac will today seek closer 20 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: economic ties with the US during his first visit as 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: leader to the White House. The two day trip comes 22 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: as the US maintains a freeze on talks on any 23 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: free trade agreement. Duncan Edwards heads the British American Business 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: Lobby group. He told our UK Politics podcast that he 25 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: doesn't expect Washington to change its position. 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 5: The view here from the administration is that they're opposed 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 5: to globalization in its broadest sense, that it at hollowed 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 5: out American towns, it removed American jobs, and they the 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 5: right approach is to invest in in building the American 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 5: economy for American workers, and so on and so forth. 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: Duncan Edwards were speaking to US as SUNAC is expected 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: to call for the US and UK to raise their 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: economic alliance to a par with their defense one. The 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: UK puts the value of existing trade ties at two 35 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy nine billion pounds annually. 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: A state of emergency has been declared in Ukraine after 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: a dam in Russian in a Russian controlled region of 38 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: the country was damaged in an explosion. Tens of thousands 39 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: of people may be forced from their homes as a 40 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 2: torrent of water swamps communities along the banks of the 41 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: Denipro River. Ukraine has accused Russia of blowing up the dam, 42 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: something the Kremlin denies. Ukrainian Economy Minister Ulias Ferdenko has 43 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 2: told Bloomberg it's a catastrophe. 44 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 6: So what happened, without any doubt, should be called the 45 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 6: biggest main made disaster Russia. Would they improve in once 46 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 6: again they act like a terroristic state and seems to 47 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 6: be like an ecological weapon of mass destruction. 48 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: Ukraine's economy minister also told us that could cost one 49 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: and a half billion dollars to rebuild the hydro electric 50 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: power plant damaged in the blast. Russia has blamed Ukraine 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: for what it called a terrorist attack. 52 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: The U S Securities and Exchange Commission has widened its 53 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: sweeping crackdown on crypto suing coin Base for allegedly running 54 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: an illegal exchange. Regulators say the biggest US crypto exchange 55 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: evaded rules by letting users trade numerous crypto tokens that 56 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: are actually on registered securities. The SEC chair Gary Gensler 57 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: told Bloomberg the whole sector needs more transparency. 58 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 7: I think the crypto industry more broadly, if it's going 59 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 7: to have any success going forward, has to come into 60 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 7: compliance with basic public policy about disclosure about avoiding conflicts 61 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 7: about segregating properly segregating customer funds, and guarding against fraud manipulation. 62 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 7: Without that, this whole area stands the chances of collapsing 63 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 7: like a house of cards. 64 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: Gary Gensler's interview with Bloomberg comes as Coinbase criticized the 65 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: SEC's approach and says that it has demonstrated a commitment 66 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: to compliance. 67 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: From suing to merging golf's billion dollar titans, the PGA 68 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: Tour and Sadibacks Live Golf have agreed a shock deal. 69 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: The two tournaments will combine in a new commercial entity, 70 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: with the Governor of the Saudi Wealth Fund as its 71 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: new chairman. PGA Tour Commissioner Jay Monahan defended the shift. 72 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 8: This is a significant change for us, you know, in 73 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 8: the direction that we were going down. But as I'm 74 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 8: trying to explain and I will continue to explain as 75 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 8: we go forward, this ultimately is a decision that I 76 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 8: think is in the best interests of all of the 77 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 8: members of the PGA Tour. 78 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 2: That's PGA Tour Commissioner Jay Monahan taking questions after the 79 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: deal was announced. The new tie up likely to draw 80 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: scrutiny from regulators. The US has already opened an investigation 81 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 2: into anti competitive violations from when the two parties were competing. 82 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: The head of the Confederation of British Industry says that 83 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: she'll do her utmost to restore trust with members. After 84 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: winning a confidence vote ninety three percent back to the 85 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: business lobby group, which has promised radical reform in the 86 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: wake of sexual misconduct allegations. Director General Ray Newton's Smith 87 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: says the organization must make the most of that endorsements. 88 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 9: We've got the support of our members and now we 89 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 9: want to sit down with policy makers, look at the 90 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 9: economic evidence, look at the insights we're getting from businesses 91 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 9: and talk to them about the critical challenges are economy faces. 92 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: Even with the supportive members, Ray Newton Smith faces an 93 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 1: uphill struggle to revive the organization. The CBI has told 94 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: staff that its wage bill will be cut by a 95 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: third due to fading membership fees, and has taken advice 96 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: from a law firm on potential insolvency. 97 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: Chinese exports fell in May for the first time in 98 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,559 Speaker 2: three months. Bloombrooks Brian Curtis has more from Hong Kong. 99 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 10: While not unexpected, this has to be disappointing to policymakers. 100 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 10: Exports had been a bright spot for the economy. May's 101 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 10: exports down seven point five percent from a year ago, 102 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 10: worse than the estimate of a drop of one point 103 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 10: eight percent. Chunk it up to weaker external demand and 104 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 10: that carries risk more risk for China, imports declining four 105 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 10: and a half percent, leaving a trade show plus of 106 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 10: sixty five point eight billion dollars. Manufacturing also contracted in May, 107 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 10: leaving no doubt China's recovery is faltering. In Hong Kong. 108 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 10: Brian Curtis, Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. 109 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: Okay, those are a few of our tops toys and 110 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: for you this morning, Oh did New York has overtaken 111 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: Hong Kong as the most expensive city in the world 112 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: for expats Now. 113 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: Our colleagues in New York have pointed out that this 114 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: is not really a surprise, and I think if you've 115 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: been to New York recently and if you've seen how 116 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: quickly the money bleeds through your fingers, that's not any 117 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: much of a surprise to people either. But it is. 118 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: It's interesting because this is so these the DCA international 119 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: rankings that look at the cost of how for example, 120 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: rent in neighborhoods that are favored by expats but also 121 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: kind of regular you know, cost of foods, cost of 122 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: regular utilities and things like that are ranked too. There 123 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 2: is interesting to see that there's inflationary impacts on this 124 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: as well. Think about Dubai, for example. We know that 125 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: rents have skyrocketed there due to the influx of Russian 126 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 2: Patryt's thatt to push the city up to twelfth place 127 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 2: in the Cast of Living rankings. In Paris has fallen 128 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: out of the top twenty list because inflation has been 129 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: lower there. 130 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but London is still in there in the top five, 131 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: which I'm kind of a ghast at, but perhaps not surprised. 132 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: Also not a renterer of Caroline. 133 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: Well look, but yeah, you understand that the city is 134 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: incredibly expensive, but Geneva also is third as well for 135 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: most expensive place to live. I mean they're also great 136 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: places to do business. 137 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, there's a reason I suppose why so 138 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: many experts are moving to those places. 139 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, they flock to those locations. Also, the story though 140 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: around England and the problems with wind power. There's a 141 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: piece on the tunnel that has a great first line 142 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: about how many thousands of years with the current planning 143 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: regulations in the UK it is going to take. 144 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: Shall I read it to you in a traumatic voice? 145 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: The year is six thousand, seven hundred and twenty three 146 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: and there are finally enough unsure wind farms in England 147 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: to support the UK's twenty to fifty net zero target. 148 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, hats yes, writing what we all think 149 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: is one of the best news lines this morning. But look, 150 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's about the planning regulations. I think 151 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: though to be fair, the offshore wind story for the 152 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: UK is positive, but there is this real concern that 153 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: on shore you know, is not getting the same intension. 154 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: And look even in after when there's a long way 155 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: to go to meet those targets as well. The question 156 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: and the point that the IPPR is trying to make 157 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: with this report is that they need to speed up. 158 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. So that on the UK and a bit more 159 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: really on the government actions today of course, trade ties 160 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: but not a trade deal. RISHISNAC is expected to try 161 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: to get closer ties with President Joe Biden of course 162 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: during his first visit as leader to the White House. 163 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: So joining us in studio this morning has Bien Biggs. 164 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: UK correspondent Lizzie Burden, So what is SUNAC. What is 165 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: the UK hoping to get out of this two day 166 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: visit to Washington. 167 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 11: Well, as you say, Carolina, Transatlantic trade deal isn't even 168 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 11: on the table anymore. But Rishi Sunac's main mission is 169 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 11: going to be to put the UK US economic relationship 170 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 11: on a more even footing with the UK security relationship. 171 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 11: So behind the scenes it's being referred to as a 172 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 11: trade deal in all but name, and that includes quote 173 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 11: unquote smoothing the edges of the Inflation Reduction Act. This 174 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 11: is how the UK Energy Secretary Grant Shaps has put it. 175 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 11: It's something that Britain seems to have an understanding from 176 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 11: the Biden administration. It can get because Britain just doesn't 177 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 11: want to be caught in the middle between the Inflation 178 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 11: Reduction Act on the one side and the EUS response 179 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 11: to it on the other. But apart from the economic 180 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 11: issues on the agenda, they're obviously going to talk about Ukraine. 181 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 11: You'll probably get the leaders reaffirming their support for President 182 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 11: Zelenski after the meeting, and then China because the two 183 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 11: sides will discuss how to shore up critical infrastructure and 184 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 11: global supply chains against that Chinese influence and finally AI 185 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 11: because of course, in res days, Rishi Sunac has said 186 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 11: that he would like to have a global watchdog for 187 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 11: artificial intelligence based here in London, Lizzie. 188 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: Much is made of the personal relationships between the US 189 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: President and the British Prime Minister. What do we know 190 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: about the rapport between Rishi Sunac and Joe Biden. 191 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 11: Well, as you know, at times Joe Biden struggled to 192 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 11: remember Rishi Sunac's name even and a lot of everything 193 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 11: that the US President does is highly choreographed. So of 194 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 11: course many in the British press have read into the 195 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 11: fact that Joe Biden spent more time in Ireland than 196 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 11: in the rest of the UK when he came for 197 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 11: the twenty fifth anniversary of the Good Friday Agreement, that 198 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 11: he didn't attend the King's coronation. Biden went out of 199 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 11: his way to emphasize that that wasn't a snub to 200 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 11: Rishie Sunac, even though he has been very negative about 201 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 11: Brexit while he's been president. So Rishi Sunac is going 202 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 11: to be trying to warm those relations, especially given it's 203 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 11: his first official Washington tree. You'll want to elevate the relationship. 204 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and many eyes on that. Thank you so much, 205 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: Lizzie Burden for being with us, our UK correspondent taking 206 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: us through that Sunac Biden meeting. 207 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: Up next, No way for Huawei and homes under the hammer. 208 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: Now the paper Review on blue Bird Daybreak Europe, the 209 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 4: news you need to know from today's papers and Bloomberg. 210 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: Damie Wilcock joins us now for a look at what's 211 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 2: in the papers. Morning to you, Jans. Let's start in 212 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: the Financial Times, which reports that the EU is considering 213 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 2: a mandatory ban on Huawei. 214 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: Yes, so this is the Commissions, or the lawmaking body 215 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: of the European Union. They recommended that member states try 216 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: and remove security written and left five g IT books 217 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty. So this kind of chimes what 218 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: Lizzie was saying, this big geopolitical story about how now 219 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: the Commissions worried that some countries fingers being pointed at 220 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: Germany especially, are dragging their heels over this and this 221 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: company is especially if companies like Huawei, So they are 222 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: now talking behind closed doors. The FI report about a 223 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 3: mandatory ban, this likely wouldn't even come into play unto 224 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: at least twenty twenty four because it would take a 225 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: long time to get the legislation through. But it plays 226 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: into the narrative of the European Commission are puting out 227 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 3: of d risk not decoupling from China, and it also 228 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: speaks to sort of why we're doing this now there 229 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: are thought of the mounting geopolitical tensions we've mentioned. There's 230 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 3: also the National Intelligence Law that from the People's Republic 231 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 3: of China, which is that a company based in China 232 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 3: is obliged to give the Chinese government any kind of 233 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: data it asks for and potentially conceeal it from other 234 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: countries that it has done so, so that our genuine 235 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: fear is about what kind of the impact it has. 236 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: You can see that here in the UK and other 237 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: story in the FT this morning is that the cabin 238 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: Office of told government departments to remove all surveillance equipment 239 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 3: made by Chinese companies, including the Dahua and Hiki Vision 240 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: from sensitive sites, in an attempt to limit potential intelligence 241 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 3: gathering by Beijing's Word's adding that huawest side of you 242 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: is this violence all e principles of having a fair 243 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 3: market and non discrimination, which it says it upholds that 244 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: says it has a right to a fair market. It's 245 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: you know, not to be blamed for sort of Chinese 246 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: government policy. 247 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and that's the number of the debate. The 248 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: Times are writing about ethical ESG funds suffering their worst 249 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: month ever for withdols. 250 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 3: Yes, this needs a bit of unpacking calent, because to 251 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: be honest, there is some skepticism around this. But to 252 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 3: give you the headline figure, calas Stone compiled industry wide 253 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: figures and they say that ESG equi funds suffed their 254 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 3: worst ever month, sharding three hundred and four million pounds 255 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: of capital and that is the fastest paced ever. Second 256 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 3: worst was the mini budget in September twenty twenty two, 257 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 3: where a net one hundred and twenty six mini was pulled. 258 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 3: So it is more than double like the second worst figure. 259 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 3: But this is also a wider pullback that is being 260 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: seeing across equity funds generally. And when you add in 261 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: the fact that ESG funds are by design underweight on 262 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: things like oil, which performed very well last year, they 263 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 3: also tend to be quite overweight at things like tech, which, 264 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: although it is getting better now, we did quite worse 265 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 3: the start of this year, you start to worry that 266 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 3: the question, and it is an open question, is is 267 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 3: this a secular trend of investors being concerned about greenwashing, 268 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 3: being concerned about issues around sort of green politics, and 269 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 3: esg fulms losing their popularity or is this a case 270 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: of waitings and poor performance, Which is just as it is, 271 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 3: and but is a genuine question because a lot of 272 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: these issues are increasingly being raised. So it's worth keeping 273 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: an eye on. 274 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly an interesting one to keep an eye on. 275 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: As you say, James, let's go to the Telegraph next 276 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: predicting a house price full but for the next five years. 277 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: And this is timely given that we have new figures 278 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: on house prices. 279 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: Yes, the words right out of my mouth, and even 280 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: timely given Halifax have just posted the what this calling 281 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: the first annual fallen house prices since twenty twelve. Prices 282 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: fell one percent versus a year earlier. Now the Telegraph 283 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: are writing about how this fall is going to be 284 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: a long and drawn out process, and they cite Oxford 285 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 3: Econarnks as well as a series of other economists in 286 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: this and they say that property viveers with full nine 287 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: point four percent from their peak last year, hitting their 288 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: lowest levels between July and September twenty twenty five. Now, 289 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: I do want to shout out about that this is 290 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: something that we've been talking about here for a very 291 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 3: long time, not just talking about sort of economists in 292 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: Bloomberg like Novourshah who say that have been predicting attempts 293 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: at for for quite some time now, but also we 294 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: had former Bierwie rates setter Michael Saunason the Ucopolitics podcast 295 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: just last week who was saying fixed rate mortgages are 296 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: delaying the impact of the interest rates heights, and the 297 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: telegrapher effecually wrapping this in and the bit that they 298 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: add is that they also have talked to a lot 299 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: of mortgage lenders and these mortgage lenders are already pumping 300 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: their existing mortgage deals higher. As the markets now bet 301 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: the banking will be raising rates to five point five percent. 302 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 3: The average rate for a two year mortgage has jumped 303 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: from five point three to three percent to five point 304 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: seventy five in just the past two weeks, according to 305 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: Money Facts. The Telegraphs say so this bump up is 306 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: already being seeing mortgage rates, but the big delaying factor 307 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: is when people have to refine U. 308 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. 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