WEBVTT - CZM Book Club: The Plastic People by Tobias Buckell

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Book Club, Club, book Club, book Club, book Club.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the book club. It's the Cool Zone Media book Club.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm your host, fire, your killjoy, and with me today

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<v Speaker 3>is my guest fellow. It could well, I'm not in

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<v Speaker 3>it could happen here post but this is on that

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<v Speaker 3>could happen here, bead sure is, and that's care. Hello.

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<v Speaker 3>I read books amazing. I honestly listen to audiobooks at

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<v Speaker 3>this point. Honestly, oh I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't. I can't retain the information with an audio.

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<v Speaker 2>But at least most of the books I read are

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<v Speaker 2>just like nonfiction. I haven't I haven't read a novel

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<v Speaker 2>in years, which I kind of feel bad about. But

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<v Speaker 2>my job, Warrence, I read just a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>like really upsetting nonfiction, and like I can't like take

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<v Speaker 2>notes the same way if I'm listening to an audiobook,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, that's that's that's true for me. I forget that.

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<v Speaker 3>My day job is reading history books for podcasts the media.

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<v Speaker 3>Those I read, yeah in print, I actually really like

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<v Speaker 3>reading the physical book while pacing.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh yeah, me too. Yeah, I love pacing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so good. Maybe you're pacing while you're listening to this,

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<v Speaker 3>dear listener, cools On Media book Club is every Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>and I read you stories and this week's story is

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<v Speaker 3>by a friend of mine, Tobias s Bukel. I'm sort

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<v Speaker 3>of a former teacher of mine who I think is

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<v Speaker 3>really cool. I met Tobias when he was my teacher

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<v Speaker 3>at the Clarion West Writers Workshop, and I would just

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<v Speaker 3>like to shout out that aspiring writers. There's a six

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<v Speaker 3>week workshop called Clarion West. There's another one called Clarion

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<v Speaker 3>I went to Clarion West, so I have a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of bias towards it. And it sounds like a

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<v Speaker 3>reality TV show, But it's not like I spent six

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<v Speaker 3>weeks in a sorority house with eighteen strangers in Seattle

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<v Speaker 3>and learned science fiction writing from amazing authors, with a

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<v Speaker 3>different author every week comes in to teach us. That

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<v Speaker 3>sounds cool, Yeah, it was. It's a really good thing

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<v Speaker 3>for people who are like just at the part of

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<v Speaker 3>writing where you're just starting to be good enough, but

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<v Speaker 3>you're not consistently good enough yet, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And it really I'm not a formal education person. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have any degrees I've been thinking about framing my

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<v Speaker 3>high school diploma to put behind me in Zoom calls

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<v Speaker 3>as a joke.

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<v Speaker 2>That be funny, that'd be good.

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<v Speaker 3>But Clarion West Workshop type things is very practical, and

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<v Speaker 3>Toby is a really good teacher. Toby's bio before we

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<v Speaker 3>get to the story. Tobias S. Bukel is a New

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<v Speaker 3>York Times bestselling author and World Fantasy Award winner. Born

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<v Speaker 3>in the Caribbean, he grew up in Granada and spent

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<v Speaker 3>time in the British and US Virgin Islands, which influence

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<v Speaker 3>much of his work. His novels and almost one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>stories have been translated into twenty languages. His work has

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<v Speaker 3>been nominated for awards like the Hugo Nebula World Fantasy

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<v Speaker 3>and the Astounding Award for Best News Science Fiction Author.

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<v Speaker 3>He currently lives in Bluffton, Ohio, with his wife and

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<v Speaker 3>two daughters, where he teaches creative writing at Bluffton University.

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<v Speaker 3>He's online at Tobias Buckell dot com. That's b u

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<v Speaker 3>c k e l L and dispelled Tobias. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just read the whole thing. T O b I

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<v Speaker 3>A S b U c k e L l dot

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<v Speaker 3>com and is also an instructor at the Stone Coast

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<v Speaker 3>MFA and Creative Writing Program and also sometimes he teaches

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<v Speaker 3>Clarion West. They should find a year there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been looking at workshops, but been working at clown

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<v Speaker 2>clowning workshops because there's really because there's no good clown

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<v Speaker 2>schools on the East Coast except for in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've never been to New York. So now looking

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<v Speaker 2>for like regional clown workshops because all the clown schools

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<v Speaker 2>are in the elitist LA and New York theater scenes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's no good, tragic. It's funny. When I when I

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<v Speaker 3>first joined the anarchy scene, there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>like radical clowns, and so there was yeah, clown workshops.

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<v Speaker 3>But I hear that gen Z is like obsessed with clowns,

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<v Speaker 3>and all my friends are complaining that, like the dating

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<v Speaker 3>apps are full of like sexy clowns.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, clowns. Clowns are back in a big way,

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<v Speaker 2>but we don't have like the the training to support it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of like clown aesthetics, but not much

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<v Speaker 2>about actual clowning. So hope, hopefully they'll be like a

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<v Speaker 2>clown renaissance, a clownissance, if you will, in the next

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<v Speaker 2>five years, as more of the Gen Z clowns kind

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<v Speaker 2>of get educated and are able to start providing their

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<v Speaker 2>own kind of education to the up and coming Gen

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<v Speaker 2>Alpha clowns or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Would this be at a clnaissance clownissance festival?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I have I have gone as a jester

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<v Speaker 2>to multiple renfairs. I've gone with you to a runfair before.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Okay, well that has nothing to do with today's story.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's a fun story, and that's why I picked it.

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<v Speaker 3>We've been doing a lot of very serious stories, which

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<v Speaker 3>are also very good, but I've kind of wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>do something a little bit more lighthearted to make fun

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<v Speaker 3>of rich people.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Evergreen, Yeah, Evergreen fun time, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's actually funny because it's a very classic. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a very classic sci fi story in so many ways,

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<v Speaker 3>even though it's modern, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>This story is called the Plastic People. Raya found the

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<v Speaker 3>feral child on the edge of the garbage park on

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<v Speaker 3>the last day of the group's vacation. Garrison passed out

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<v Speaker 3>from drinking the better part of a bottle of one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred year old is Ley Scotch had dropped a cigar

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<v Speaker 3>onto the edge of the canvas tent and set it

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<v Speaker 3>all on fire. I absolutely picked you for the guest

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<v Speaker 3>aha of this character.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I usually only get Garrison Keeler because there's not

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<v Speaker 2>very many of us out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I don't know who Garrison Keiler is.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know either, but it's the one other person

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<v Speaker 2>named Garrison in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that well, now you know that there's a future Garrison,

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<v Speaker 3>So damn it, Garrison, Agagnier shouted, as personal air quality

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<v Speaker 3>alarms blared. You and your fucking retro addictions. There'd been

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<v Speaker 3>scrambling and shouting among the five old friends as they

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<v Speaker 3>tumbled out onto the fetid, methane rich air outside. Go easy,

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<v Speaker 3>It isn't something he can do. Back upstairs, Susie stumbled

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<v Speaker 3>out of her own tent with a fire extinguisher. Everyone

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<v Speaker 3>coughed and spat as she blew the fire out in

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<v Speaker 3>a cloud of chemical powder. Don't defend him, Agunier snapped.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten years, Garrison shouted, clutching the almost empty bottle triumphantly.

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<v Speaker 3>His heavy boots crunched in the ground, knocking styrofoam chunks

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<v Speaker 3>into the air, and I still love you all. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the last bottle, Agugnie anger, suddenly as banked as the

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<v Speaker 3>tent fire on this world, Garrison said, Ever, the last

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<v Speaker 3>bottle of Islae anyone will ever have, Agugnie said, and

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<v Speaker 3>snatched it from Garrison. Raya listened to the bickering with

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<v Speaker 3>half an ear as the orange glow of the fire

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<v Speaker 3>faded away. As she'd been sure she had seen something

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<v Speaker 3>skiter past the shadows on the edge of camp. Something's

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<v Speaker 3>over there, Raya whispered to Susy by the fridge. London

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<v Speaker 3>had been listening to them. She pointed in the direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Raya indicated and snapped her fingers. The night lit up

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<v Speaker 3>and two drones dropped out of the air. Was using

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<v Speaker 3>them for dance lights, London muttered, but trash rattled and

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<v Speaker 3>slid down the pile. As the intruder scuttled away from

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<v Speaker 3>the stunningly bright light. Raya shielded her eyes and tried

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<v Speaker 3>to follow along. As the drones ducked and weaved around

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<v Speaker 3>the compacted hills of old earth debris cornered it, London

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<v Speaker 3>said triumphantly. Is a bear? Garrison asked, blearily. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>bear right there. Are no bears, idiot, Susie said, they're extinct.

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<v Speaker 3>London said. Raya clambered one of the unsteady trasholes they'd

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<v Speaker 3>parked the tents between. I see it, she said. It

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<v Speaker 3>was a little boy, streaked in grease and mud, ribs,

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<v Speaker 3>visible as the drone lights played over him. His wide,

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<v Speaker 3>dark eyes stared fearfully at her as he tried to

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<v Speaker 3>hide behind a cracked porcelain tub. Oh my, London said,

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<v Speaker 3>clamberin over behind Raya. The poor little thing. Does he

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<v Speaker 3>live here? Susie asked, disgusted, how we just spent three days.

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<v Speaker 3>Garrison said it's not that bad, idiot, Susie said, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a shithole. It's miles and miles of trash. It reeks

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<v Speaker 3>everywhere I step. There's old world crap. I agree, while

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<v Speaker 3>it was fun to see what the old world was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Agougnie threw the last bottle of his lay off into

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<v Speaker 3>the dark. It shattered against something invisible out there. I

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<v Speaker 3>think maybe it's time to call it. Let's go home.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm tired of the gravity. Susie agreed. It's oppressive. We

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<v Speaker 3>can't leave the child here in the trash. Raya protested,

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<v Speaker 3>Garrison groaned, Oh, come on, that's what it's like down here.

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<v Speaker 3>You know this. They'd flown down into the heart of

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<v Speaker 3>the dump for their mini reunion. Partying in an exotic

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<v Speaker 3>location would make an incredible story. All the termites down

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<v Speaker 3>here can survive just fine without our help. They love

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<v Speaker 3>living in places like this, Susie said, don't think you're

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<v Speaker 3>doing it any favors. Living here must be a hell.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a hell they chose to make, Garrison said, this

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<v Speaker 3>is all theirs. They made it. They knew how to

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<v Speaker 3>live in it. Raya clambered her way over rusted out

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<v Speaker 3>heaps and winced when something jabbed through her boots into

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<v Speaker 3>her skin. She'd had all our shots, though, a prerequisite

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<v Speaker 3>to coming down. Hey there, she said softly to the

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<v Speaker 3>scared child. His hair was matted and clumped. He was

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<v Speaker 3>so covered and muck that he almost blended into the night.

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<v Speaker 3>She held out a candy bar in her right hand.

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<v Speaker 3>The child snatched it from her, shredding the plastic wrapping

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<v Speaker 3>as he ripped into it with jagged teeth. What's your name?

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<v Speaker 3>The child just stared at her. Raya held out a hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you like to come with us? He scuttled back

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<v Speaker 3>from her and right into a Guigne's arms. He circled

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<v Speaker 3>around and snuck up from behind. The child wailed and screamed,

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<v Speaker 3>but he was a small creature, and Agugnia tucked him

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<v Speaker 3>under an armpit with a quick smile. Shall we go?

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone agreed that it was time to end the party,

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<v Speaker 3>and with Reya placated, the reunion trickled back into the

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<v Speaker 3>shuttle for the trip home. Susy strapped into the pilot's

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<v Speaker 3>seat and activated a return sequence. The main engines lit

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<v Speaker 3>up and scattered all their camping equipment off to mingle

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<v Speaker 3>with the rest of the trash park as a silvered

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<v Speaker 3>ship thundered into the sky, with the fair old child

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<v Speaker 3>screaming all the way up to orbit. Raya tried to

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<v Speaker 3>give him a chocolate bar, but he ate the wrapper

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<v Speaker 3>and bar pointed teeth, ripping into the whole package, then

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<v Speaker 3>puked it up all over the cabin. You're cleaning that up,

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<v Speaker 3>Susi shouted, as Reya tried not to throw up herself.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you want candy bars, we were sponsored by candy,

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<v Speaker 3>sponsored by Big Candy. That's right, we got we got

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty twenty three Wonka sponsorship. So line up outside

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<v Speaker 3>every every every fifth, every fifth bar gets you one

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<v Speaker 3>ticket to book Club in your in your ears though

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<v Speaker 3>you have you still you still have to plug in

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<v Speaker 3>through the headphones. But you'll be allowed to listen to

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<v Speaker 3>book Club. Yeah. So yeah, as long as you buy

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<v Speaker 3>enough candy bars, that's right, offer them to random children.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's those ads, and we're back scrubbing the mangy child.

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<v Speaker 3>Clean took five I have domestic assistance an hour. It

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<v Speaker 3>fought free of the butler's first attempt, and he'd called

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<v Speaker 3>in the chef and three clean team professionals to get

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<v Speaker 3>the kid into the tub. They washed the dogs in

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<v Speaker 3>Mighty tim Gonzo, and Ophelia, the three poodles, usually the

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<v Speaker 3>ones unlucky enough to get hauled into the plastic tub

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<v Speaker 3>in the middle of the mudroom, off by the kitchens.

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<v Speaker 3>Barkden ran around in the middle of all the chaos,

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<v Speaker 3>making the most of the fun. He's a wiry one,

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<v Speaker 3>the butler observed. Stronger than you'd think, it's all that

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<v Speaker 3>full gravity, the chef said, drying herself off. Rayo watched

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<v Speaker 3>the chaos unfold on a tablet, patching into the house

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<v Speaker 3>video feed while enjoying a calming soak and the marble

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<v Speaker 3>trimmed upstairs bathroom attached to her unit as she scrubbed

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<v Speaker 3>away the stink of the old world and half digested

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<v Speaker 3>candy bar. The gold leafed Florida ceiling windows in front

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<v Speaker 3>of the bathtub framed the stars beyond, a stunning view

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<v Speaker 3>when she stopped to think about it. Mostly she found

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<v Speaker 3>that it kept entrancing her personal assistant, so Ria usually

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<v Speaker 3>kept the window darkened. On one of the other orbital cities,

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<v Speaker 3>Raya spent the night with a man who had his

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<v Speaker 3>whole bathroom floor transparent. You could look down on the

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<v Speaker 3>mother planet slowly passing by underneath every minute while taking

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<v Speaker 3>a shit. Her view won for class. His was the

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<v Speaker 3>one everyone talked about at the party. Raya stood up

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<v Speaker 3>and toweled herself off handy. Her pa had a selection

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<v Speaker 3>of evening gowns waiting in her room. The one with

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<v Speaker 3>microblades that could produce enough lift to waft around her

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<v Speaker 3>legs at a pre programmed height got the nod. Then

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<v Speaker 3>it was off down the hall to mother's dining room,

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<v Speaker 3>where she was fussing over the layout. Why is there

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<v Speaker 3>an extra seating alas demanded, hovering over the table as

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<v Speaker 3>a chef directed the setup. It's for the child, we found,

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<v Speaker 3>Raya explained. Her mother looked utterly perplexed, so Raya showed

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<v Speaker 3>her a picture of the sight and one of the

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<v Speaker 3>child screaming as they rocketed back up to orbit. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a farll, Raya said, living in the garbage dump. We

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<v Speaker 3>went to the dump. Alaise looked horrified. You went down,

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<v Speaker 3>Susie piloted it. It's safe. How much did that cost?

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<v Speaker 3>Elise's horror had turned into a vaguely scandalized expression. Raya

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<v Speaker 3>had to think about that a second. It was Susie,

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<v Speaker 3>you know her father owns the shipping. Recognition flickered across

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<v Speaker 3>Eliza's face. That's Susie exactly. Most of the founding families

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<v Speaker 3>knew each other well enough by first name, but mother

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<v Speaker 3>always struggled with the names of Raya's friends and which

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<v Speaker 3>kid matched to which parents. They were just a blur

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<v Speaker 3>of little people in and out of the house to her.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, the house staff knew Rhea's cohort by name.

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<v Speaker 3>They'd served them enough dinners and requests over the years.

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<v Speaker 3>Bring the child in, Raya ordered, and then to her mother.

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<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't believe the squalor we found the poor thing in. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>it is the old world, Elise said. There's a reason

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<v Speaker 3>we left. Look at what they do to it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>barely inhabitable. It's hardly a child's fault. It was born

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<v Speaker 3>to it. I've been saying for years we should just

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<v Speaker 3>put birth control and all the medicine we shipped down

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<v Speaker 3>there from the factories. Don't be so ghost. Rahea rolled

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<v Speaker 3>her eyes. You always tried to rescue strays. Remember that

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<v Speaker 3>little kitten you found over by the garment factory mittens.

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<v Speaker 3>Raya clenched her jawl. You had it put down. I

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<v Speaker 3>told you, sweetie. The cats have gotten out of hand

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<v Speaker 3>in the green ways. They're killing everything and throwing the

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<v Speaker 3>ecology nets off kilter. We keep having to poll species

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<v Speaker 3>out of storage to repopulate the gardens. Oh it's here.

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<v Speaker 3>The little boy stood at the servants doorway, two domestic

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<v Speaker 3>assistants behind him. With hands on his shoulder. They cleaned

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<v Speaker 3>all the dirt off of him. He was pale, almost

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<v Speaker 3>sickly so and so skinny that his shirt and trousers

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<v Speaker 3>flopped baggly around him. One of the domestic assistants had

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<v Speaker 3>brushed out as long, stringy hair and braided it. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>look at how nicely we've we cleaned him up, Raya said,

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<v Speaker 3>you're supposed to return a baby bird to the nest.

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<v Speaker 3>Alise whispered to Raya as she sat down. Doesn't this

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<v Speaker 3>Pharrell have parents? Raya caught her breath. She hadn't thought

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<v Speaker 3>about parents. She's just seen a near starving child enacted

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<v Speaker 3>not good ones if he was living in a dump.

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<v Speaker 3>It stays in your quarters, Alise huffed. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>it anywhere near my rembrands or the silver, and never

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<v Speaker 3>ever in my rooms. Come on, little one, Raya waved

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<v Speaker 3>at the child, come sit with us, let's eat. He

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<v Speaker 3>approached poor thing so tentatively, much like the kitten Elise mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>nervous about trusting the outstretched hand, unlike mittens. The child

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<v Speaker 3>pulled out a chair and sat down as instructed. Does

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<v Speaker 3>it speak, Elise asked the domestic assistance. It screams, miss Raya.

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<v Speaker 3>Raya patted the child's hand and he flinched. Don't be

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<v Speaker 3>like that, Raya said, we rescued you. Everything's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be better now, the child whimpered. Raya looked out over

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<v Speaker 3>the first course being set out and frowned. Let's get

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<v Speaker 3>you something so magical to'll cheer you right up, something

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<v Speaker 3>you never would have experienced in that nasty dump. Ice cream,

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<v Speaker 3>Now that was the ticket. Raya ordered it, delivered with

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<v Speaker 3>chocolate sauce drizzled on the top. There we are, she said,

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<v Speaker 3>pushing the bowl over. Try this. The child bared teeth.

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<v Speaker 3>Good God, they're filed to a point. Alisee shuddered. Raya

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<v Speaker 3>scooped a spoonful of ice cream and held it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Try it. She took a chilly bite and smiled at him.

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<v Speaker 3>He nibbled at the spoon when she moved it back over.

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<v Speaker 3>Persuaded by her enjoyment, he shuddered as his tongue hit cold, smiled,

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<v Speaker 3>then ate the rest of the bite. Soon he had

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<v Speaker 3>his face in the bowl, licking it clean. That's a boy,

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<v Speaker 3>Raya said. He sampled more food, but right when a

0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.399
<v Speaker 3>Lee's and ray started on their Kobe beef, he clutched

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<v Speaker 3>his stomach and looked at them with an almost comical

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<v Speaker 3>confused look, and then threw up all over the dinner table.

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<v Speaker 3>Alie stood up, threw her napkin down at the mess,

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<v Speaker 3>and declared, I'm going to visit Lars at Lunar North.

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<v Speaker 3>Call me when you come to your senses. The domestic

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<v Speaker 3>assistant swooped in to clean up the mess and the boy. Raya,

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<v Speaker 3>in a funk, retired to a room to brood over

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<v Speaker 3>what had gone wrong. She had started this with the

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<v Speaker 3>best of intentions, but it wasn't going to plan now.

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<v Speaker 3>Her mother had her judgy face on. The domestic assistants

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<v Speaker 3>looked annoyed, and she could hear the child screaming and

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<v Speaker 3>fussing away from somewhere deeper inside the family estate. Hell,

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<v Speaker 3>she didn't even know the child's name. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>engineering staff came back in with the boy. We weren't

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<v Speaker 3>sure where you wanted him to stay. Before Raya could

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<v Speaker 3>say anything, the child ran toward the window at the

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<v Speaker 3>back of the living room. Earth, he said, pressing against

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<v Speaker 3>the thick glass, his large brown eyes filled with tears.

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<v Speaker 3>He can speak, Raya said, Thank goodness. She'd started to

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<v Speaker 3>worry that maybe the pharaohs back down on the planet

0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.879
<v Speaker 3>had started to lose the capacity to speak, but that

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<v Speaker 3>didn't make any sense, as they all purchased medicines, weapons,

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<v Speaker 3>and other supplies for many of the family businesses that

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<v Speaker 3>still did trade below them. She assumed that you had

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to speak to do that Earth, the

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<v Speaker 3>child said, back to that nasty dump, Raya shook her head.

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<v Speaker 3>Look around you, look at everything I can give you.

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<v Speaker 3>I rescued you. The wealthy had left Earth long ago,

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<v Speaker 3>moved manufacturing to orbit, moved all their wealth up, even

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<v Speaker 3>scraped off all the good soil so they could grow

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<v Speaker 3>whatever they wanted an orbit. Some people felt they had

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<v Speaker 3>abandoned Earth or turned their backs on its suffering that

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<v Speaker 3>only the very rich could afford to get to orbit,

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<v Speaker 3>and that they'd walked away from their responsibility to be stewards.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the ancestors of the wealthy who had done

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<v Speaker 3>so much damage on their way to being rich. Ray's family.

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<v Speaker 3>It was mainly held that if one really wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>work hard enough, anyone could get into space. Those left

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<v Speaker 3>behind had simply not applied themselves. This child's ancestors had

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<v Speaker 3>not applied themselves, but Raya had rescued it. The least

0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:20.840
<v Speaker 3>the child could do was show some gratitude. Instead, he

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<v Speaker 3>wiped snop from his nose at and sniffed at the

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<v Speaker 3>window until Raya's patience broke. The only word the child

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<v Speaker 3>seemed to know was Earth. She left the estate for

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<v Speaker 3>a walk to clear her mind and meet up with

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<v Speaker 3>a Gugne for some actual conversation. And if you want

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<v Speaker 3>your golden ticket Garrison to Space, every fifth candy bar.

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<v Speaker 2>Every fifth candy bar, new new Musk branded Wonking candy

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<v Speaker 2>bar is coming sued.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Get get you a free a free trip to Bars

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<v Speaker 2>one way one way ticket though.

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<v Speaker 3>God, wouldn't it be great if I'm I'm all in

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<v Speaker 3>favor of Elon Musk personally attempting to get to Mars

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<v Speaker 3>with all the richest people in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, No, I'm all for one way tickets

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<v Speaker 2>to Mars.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I don't think they'll make it. Oh really well yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I'm not big into gambling, but I would

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<v Speaker 3>be so happy either way. Then I would absolutely gamble

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<v Speaker 3>on this.

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<v Speaker 2>No matter what happens, everyone wins.

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<v Speaker 3>It's yeah. I think the best would be is if

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<v Speaker 3>they like set up really nice stuff on Mars and

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<v Speaker 3>then die and then when you know, people try and

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<v Speaker 3>go there, there's like nice stuff anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would be cool, But I think you're putting

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<v Speaker 2>little too much faith in their infrastructurability. Yeah, that's build

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<v Speaker 2>set up nice stuff on Mars in the first place.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've seen how badly their cars are made. I

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<v Speaker 3>love that we're supposed to be impressed by their space rockets,

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<v Speaker 3>as if, like before I was born, we hadn't put

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<v Speaker 3>a human onto the Moon by way of yeah math

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<v Speaker 3>done by women with notebooks.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean we had like wizards in the Nevada Desert,

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<v Speaker 2>like launching rockets with like Crowley's space journals in like

0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:20.040
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen forties, which led to the space program. And

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<v Speaker 2>these fuckers can't manage to get something up into orbit consistently. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty pretty, pretty funny stuff. Yeah, because they're all fucking

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<v Speaker 2>grifting each other anyway, what's not a grift? Are actually

0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:36.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of these ads are probably these ads? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>here they are, and we're back into the economic system

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<v Speaker 2>that we all live in.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the story. Airwon orbitals carefully landscaped gardens, curved up

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<v Speaker 3>until they met the ceiling, a transparent metal that let

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<v Speaker 3>you look in toward the center of the orbital where

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<v Speaker 3>the heavy infrastructure and docks all clustered around a needle

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<v Speaker 3>shaped hub. The ring shape of the orbital let its spin,

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<v Speaker 3>and the insides of the hoop dripped with greenery that

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<v Speaker 3>teams of biota specialists worked overtime to keep in balance,

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<v Speaker 3>getting a forest to stay alive against cosmic rays, occasional

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<v Speaker 3>pressure losses from punctures, and the gyrations of a life

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:33.439
<v Speaker 3>support system closed in so tight that problems cascaded around

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<v Speaker 3>in dizzying complexities. Reya had studied systems management for a

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<v Speaker 3>whole agonizing three months, idly toy in with the idea

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<v Speaker 3>of becoming part of the ecosystem management team on one

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<v Speaker 3>of the orbitals, but five minutes near a sewer processing

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<v Speaker 3>plant deep in the bowels of Erewhon had her change

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<v Speaker 3>her mind. She joined her father's team of orbital arbitrage specialists,

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<v Speaker 3>flipping futures contracts based on complicated home and transfers and

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<v Speaker 3>cargo manifests through cis lunar space, a much more dependable

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<v Speaker 3>income stream, not that she needed much. The family endowment

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<v Speaker 3>created back when her great grandfather lived on Earth and

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Speaker 3>decided to start building orbitals as a lark with the

0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 3>extra billions lying around would always take care of her.

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<v Speaker 3>You had to do something or life became awfully boring.

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<v Speaker 3>Quickly enough, Agugner met her in the scent garden, running

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<v Speaker 3>his hands over lilacs and breathing them in with a smile.

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<v Speaker 3>Hungover or still drunk, Hi, hello, t you, Reyes said,

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<v Speaker 3>stopping by a striking clump of mini cedar trees. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm high, Agunya took a deep breath. Come on, Agugne,

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<v Speaker 3>really after a treat like the one we had. Agugne

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<v Speaker 3>smiled and joined her by the cedars. Just a small buzz,

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<v Speaker 3>take the edge off. Susie's still mad at you. Susie

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't speak or turn messages right now. She'll get over

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:57.040
<v Speaker 3>it in a week. That little creature threw up everywhere.

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.119
<v Speaker 3>Agunya picked up a stick and scratched at it. The

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<v Speaker 3>smell of cedar filled the air between them. Then I

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<v Speaker 3>threw up. It was a horror movie in there. It'll

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<v Speaker 3>take more than a week. Ray A sighed. Maybe I

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 3>need to send her an apology. Ah, there you go,

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 3>something decadent and not easy to find anywhere. An air on.

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<v Speaker 3>Agagnier took out a lighter and ceremoniously handed it to her.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll have to have my people think of something, Raya said,

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<v Speaker 3>flicking it off and on. It would be a good

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<v Speaker 3>thing to set her personal assistant to She hadn't spoken

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 3>to him since she'd stuck him researching equipment for the

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<v Speaker 3>trip that caused this whole mess. That's the spirit, it's

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 3>the personal thought that counts, Agugnier said. That should help

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 3>her forget all the vomit in her hair. He looked

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<v Speaker 3>pointedly over at the cedars. The child's still throwing up.

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<v Speaker 3>Raya confessed, it's pissing me off. I try to do

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<v Speaker 3>the right thing and it goes all wrong. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>story of my life, a gugnie. Everything is always a struggle.

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<v Speaker 3>Raya held the lighter up to one of the branches

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 3>in front of them. The flame flickered as it scorched

0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 3>the bark, and they both patiently waited for it to

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:03.480
<v Speaker 3>catch and quicken. You know, Agugnier said, thoughtfully, as the

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 3>tree began to burn, you might need to get checked over. Mmm.

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Raya stepped back as the flames left higher. A doctor,

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 3>you didn't take the child through customs like they have to,

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 3>he nodded at the ground's crew, respectfully approaching with extinguishers.

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 3>A gunie held up a hand so they stopped twenty

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:24.440
<v Speaker 3>feet away and waited. Oh shit, Raya said, we could

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 3>have all been exposed to some exotic earth bug. Agugnier said,

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 3>I'd get yourself checked up, or you might be the

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 3>one vomiting everywhere we had our booster shots. Nevertheless, the

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.640
<v Speaker 3>smell of burning cedar made her mouth water. Raya made

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.199
<v Speaker 3>an appointment to have a doctor come in tomorrow, and

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 3>she left the gardens to go have dinner with a Gugnie,

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 3>a floating restaurant with a liquid menu nestled into, of

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 3>all places, the docks at the center of Arawon. What

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 3>do you think the ground's crew would do without us,

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Agugnie wondered. Later, as they hung in the air near

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 3>an old wooden deck taken from some famous once sunken ship,

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 3>and sucked at galact swirls of soup carefully deconstructed in

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 3>the air between them, Raya poked a dumpling with a

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 3>finger and watched it wobble its way towards the guignet's nose.

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:13.160
<v Speaker 3>He dipped his head at the last second to bite

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 3>at it, but it tumbled away from his chin. They

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have a job if it wasn't for us, Reyes said,

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 3>we'd have to send them away where we're an orbital.

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:24.400
<v Speaker 3>It's not my job to think about those things. Raya

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 3>protested and splashed broth droplets at him. The doctor came

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:32.920
<v Speaker 3>much later the next day, held up by an accident

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.640
<v Speaker 3>at the docks or something silly like that, and by

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 3>then the vomiting kid had been passed from assistant to

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.639
<v Speaker 3>assistant all through the house and then exiled to one

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 3>of the pool rooms. But after a painful blood draw

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 3>and some checks on his machine and a few scans,

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 3>the doctor looked over his glasses to clear her. The

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 3>scan results on the glasses, full of complex imagery, reflected

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 3>off his green eyes. Everything comes in normal, and you

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:57.920
<v Speaker 3>had your full compliment of booster shots before you left.

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:01.679
<v Speaker 3>Thank goodness, she said. But I'm glad you checked in.

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 3>Can't be too safe. He started to pack up his equipment.

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm so relieved, Raya said, letting out the breath she'd

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 3>been holding as she waited for the verdict. I thought

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 3>maybe the boy had given me something. The doctor turned back,

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:19.439
<v Speaker 3>eyebrows raised, Raya groaned and rolled her eyes. No, not

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 3>that it's the child we brought back up with us.

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 3>He keeps vomiting. Well, maybe I should see him, the

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 3>doctor said. Raya sighed, okay, sure. She explained how they'd

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 3>found the child as she led the doctor through the

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 3>hallways to the pool room. The large clear blister that

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 3>held the pool bulged out beyond Erowan's metal hall. If

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 3>you dove down into it, you could look out along

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 3>the outside of Arawan, or down at the Earth. You

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 3>could swim out into space. The domestic assistance had put

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 3>the child in one of the bamboo cabanas around the pool,

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 3>but he was sitting on the edge of the pool

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 3>and looking down through it to earth home. He asked,

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 3>a whole new word since she'd last been around him.

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Yah idly wondered if they were indeed passing over his home.

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 3>As she looked down through the pool at the blurred

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 3>land masses below them. Raya took out her diamond tipped

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 3>heels and sat with her feet in the water as

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 3>the doctor ran scans and then had to fight with

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 3>the boy for a blood draw. He's malnourished, was the pronouncement.

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 3>And you've been feeding him the wrong food. The wrong food,

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Raya frowned. I don't understand. We gave him the best food.

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 3>He ate our table. The house chef prepared the meal.

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 3>The doctor carefully unwrapped a candy bar and handed the

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 3>wrapper over The child chewed on it, his sharp teeth,

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 3>shredding it quickly before he swallowed in a noisy gulp.

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 3>He's modified, the doctor said, his tone patient and completely polite,

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 3>yet infuriating. Somehow all the surface folk are since the

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 3>turn of the century. There are microbes that eat plastic.

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 3>Those capabilities were grafted onto the human genome. He eats plastic.

0:29:57.000 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 3>They had to do that or they'd all starve. Don't

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 3>you remember this from history class? History class? He remember

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 3>the exodus, her great grandparents, leaving the messy, despoiled Earth

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 3>behind for the skies and other planets. Boring talks about

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 3>translunar independence movements, the old democracies failing on Earth, and

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 3>the great die offs. She vaguely remembered something about plastic.

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 3>She should have paid more attention, but Eric had sat

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 3>next to her in history, and she'd been so distracted. I

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 3>guess I need to call Susie and see if we

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 3>can put him back down, Raya said. Finally, Susie couldn't

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 3>do it. Her family had found out she'd use the

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 3>ship without clearing it, and she was haha grounded. Nothing

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Raya could say about humans being modified to eat trash

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 3>in order to survive after being left on the surface

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 3>made a difference. The child was stuck on air one.

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Garrison agreed to come over, but he didn't have anything

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 3>to offer other than too many attempts to touch her

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 3>hands or knee or get close to her. I think

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 3>he really needs to get put somewhere where he can eat,

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 3>she told Garrison. It's not going to be good for

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 3>him in our house. We don't have that much plastic

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 3>on a house scale. No oil in space. Plastics came

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 3>from plants, and it made more sense to eat plants

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 3>than waste them on packaging. But Raya knew where most

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 3>of the plastics ended up. Come on, Garrison, help me

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 3>take him to the vats. Garrison groaned, but she finally

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 3>promised that she'd make it up to him afterwards. He

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 3>was convinced he was going to get laid, but she

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 3>was really thinking about the bottle of mccollin and the

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 3>family vault. Or maybe she'd save the priceless scotch and

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 3>fool around. Sex wouldn't be a bad way to kill

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 3>some of her frustrations. Later, Garrison helped wrestle the child

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 3>into a cart and they drove over to the vats,

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 3>where they pulled him through the airlock. It reeks. Garrison said,

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't quite the trash parks of Earth, but it

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 3>was the holding area for acres of Erewhon's own trash

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 3>before it got scrunched off to the recycling vats. Here

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 3>you go, Raya said, you can live here now, all

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 3>the food you need. The child looked at her, not

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 3>getting it go on. It took some convincing, some shouting,

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 3>and a little subterfuge, but then finally got the boy

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 3>to settle in between two hillsized mounds of trash, munching

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 3>contentedly away on some plastic carry bags. At the airlock,

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 3>Raya took one last look back. This is where I

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 3>had to leave Mittens, she said, sadly, Mittens my cat.

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh I wish Raya trailed off, forming her thoughts. I

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 3>wish our families hadn't been forced to leave Earth and

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 3>take everything with them. If they'd been allowed to stay,

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 3>maybe they could have used their resources to help make

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 3>every make things better. Garrison stared at her, who said

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:46.959
<v Speaker 3>they were forced. Raya frowned. My family, that's he laughed.

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 3>We left because we could, because we're better richer superior.

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Garrison hit the button and the airlock doors thudded shut,

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 3>leaving the earth child alone in their trash. He tried

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 3>to take her back to the family house, but she

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 3>dropped him off at his penthouse. Disappointed, Garrison would be

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 3>on his own for the night and without the antique Scotch,

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 3>Raya said on the edge of the pool, looking down

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 3>at the Earth passing by on each rotation of the

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 3>orbital's great wheel until it was time for dinner. By then,

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 3>her vague sense of guilt or responsibility had passed. You

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 3>couldn't save every broken stray, even with the best intentions,

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 3>She decided. The duh, is that is that the story? Yeah?

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 3>That's the story Alrighty. I like how it's subtle and

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 3>would really take a lot of work to deconstruct what

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 3>it's talking about here.

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very very lofty, kind of far out, far out ideas.

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 2>It's it's uh diving into very fantasy, very fantasy.

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's nothing like this as any there's no real

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 3>world parallels to you know, the way people treat.

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>We would never eat plastic. What are you talking about?

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, that part is like that's the only utopian part

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 3>we would.

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 2>They would never put a plastic in our food. What

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:09.399
<v Speaker 2>do you eat?

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, I wasn't even thinking about microplastics.

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, we definitely don't eat a credit cards worth

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 2>of plastic every week? It's fine, whoa do we really?

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 2>I might I might be wrong on the week. There.

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Let's see.

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 3>Is this like the five spiders a year thing or

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 3>is this like real?

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 3>This is this is this is this is real? No,

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 3>I do believe it. I mean there's yeah. I think

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 3>about when I compost where I like, I compost shredded

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 3>paper and yeah, shredded cardboard, And that means that, like

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm composting things with tiny amounts of plastic in it,

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 3>because like you know, there's tiny little bits of plastic.

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:53.439
<v Speaker 2>Yes, every every week we eat about a credit card's

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.879
<v Speaker 2>worth a plastic. Isn't that cool?

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? It's good for us.

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that an uplifting thought about civilization?

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:07.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I like how we look back at the people

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 3>who like ate off of lead plates and are like

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 3>fucking war on.

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Those idiots, those fools Yeah, they didn't know better back then,

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 2>unlike us, the enlightened modern people.

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, what's funny is we do know better and we

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 3>just like can't do anything about Well, yeah, because where

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 3>the We're not Raya and Garrison in this story.

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 2>No, no, we're the trash child. Yes, absolutely. All we

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 2>can do is make a mountain out of our trash

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 2>and maybe subterranean tunnels in the trash. I propose a

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 2>dual power solution to this, where we build out our

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 2>infrastructure on the trash planet. We're also strengthening our forces

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 2>to overtake the space ships. But I'm I'm sure the

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 2>anti sims will just try to blow up the ships

0:35:57.480 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 2>in the first place.

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and you know, I don't want to like

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 3>stop them from trying, but I do want to eventually

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 3>also get the space ships.

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean it is. It is part of

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 2>I think humanity's quest for the heaven.

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 3>I read too much Octavia Butler to be like anti

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 3>humans figuring out a way to space. I just don't

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 3>want it to be colonized by the rich bastards.

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 2>We have which is really really the only way to

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 2>see which unfortunately it's the only way where it's like

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.839
<v Speaker 2>it looks like it's gonna happen. Because also, if if

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 2>there was ever like an anarchists space program, it would

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 2>be sabotaged by other anarchists. It's just not fun. It's

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 2>just not possible.

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.719
<v Speaker 3>There was a huge UH in the like nineteen tens,

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 3>and then in nineteen twenties in Russia there were the

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 3>anarcho cosmists, and they were I mean, it was mostly

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 3>this sort of weird theological, i mean political movement where

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 3>they were going to like resurrect the dead and like

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:58.240
<v Speaker 3>have like gay space communism basically nice nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 3>but they were some of the last anarchists that the

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 3>the USSR put up with because they were a little

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 3>bit like lost in their own heads and not doing

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 3>much political stuff.

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 2>That's that's why I I do kind of respect the

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 2>anarchists to like cling onto Star Trek as like as

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 2>like a utopian future despite despite Starfleet's many problems. Yeah,

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 2>it still is like one of like the better better

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 2>like end end results for like humanity and even like

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 2>the Earth, because like the Earth's doing great in Star

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Trek's future as well, like it it survives total cataclysm

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 2>and now it's like a very very healthy ecosystem for

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 2>animals and humans and other animals and plants and fungi

0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:46.800
<v Speaker 2>and the whales that talk to space signals.

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's why I want to have both. We

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 3>have to solve the problems of the problem of the

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 3>rich people, and then we can have both space and

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 3>a green utopia here on Earth. And in the means,

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:02.720
<v Speaker 3>it would be nice. Don't steal old children from places

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<v Speaker 3>that are places that have been impoverished by first world

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<v Speaker 3>gun you know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I can't think of any any examples of

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<v Speaker 2>rich people coming into improvished areas and just kidnapping children. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot imagine where the author might be might be

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<v Speaker 2>pulling that outrageous idea for.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, totally totally out It's just science fiction.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say. I do like the idea of having

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<v Speaker 2>a bathroom where I can just look down into space

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<v Speaker 2>in the floor. It's like just like sitting on the toilet,

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<v Speaker 2>just like staring into the abyss.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to swim in that. See. That's why it's

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<v Speaker 3>like I want the nice stuff for everyone. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to swim in the bubble pool that looks out over

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<v Speaker 3>all of everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, we should we should bring back like like

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<v Speaker 2>like like the uh like the Roman public baths, but

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<v Speaker 2>just put just put them in space for everybody. Go

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<v Speaker 2>have your space bath. No. That that that is the one.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of trick again, When when William Shatner was hoisted

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<v Speaker 2>up to almost outer space on I think it was

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Bezos's penis shaped rocket, he wrote his like his

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<v Speaker 2>immediate like he he thought he'd be like filled with

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<v Speaker 2>like wonder and awe, and he's like, no, space is terrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing there. It's just an abyss of darkness. We

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<v Speaker 2>need to go back to Earth. Earth is where the

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<v Speaker 2>life is. Space was terrifying, which I do find to

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<v Speaker 2>be a very a very fun reaction as well, as

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<v Speaker 2>you like stare into like absolute oblivion, like the cold

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<v Speaker 2>death of everything, and you're like, no, no, there's like

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<v Speaker 2>light on the Earth. Let's go back to her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, if I'm like hungover and I'm puking

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<v Speaker 2>into a and I'm puking into a toilet, I would

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<v Speaker 2>also like to just look off to the side into

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<v Speaker 2>the abyss and like see how I feel about it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Yeah, and then I can decide if I

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<v Speaker 2>want to go back to puking in the toilet.

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<v Speaker 3>That makes sense. Well, it's because you didn't eden of plastic.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's I had. I hadn't got my credit

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<v Speaker 2>cards worth in.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a hangover cure that everyone should try. Well, the

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<v Speaker 3>classic promo at the end of this for us is

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<v Speaker 3>that we both have podcasts. What's your podcast that you

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<v Speaker 3>might really do? The feed of already, dear listener.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I spend a lot of time working on a

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<v Speaker 2>podcast called it Could Happen Here. One of my more

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 2>recent projects that I'm proud of is a Halloween special

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I put together about the Oregon Ghost Conference. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I also I kind of made a follow up episode

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<v Speaker 2>about this tech company called mind bank AI who wants

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 2>to trap your brain inside a computer. So those those

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<v Speaker 2>projects are are my my most recent favorite things I've

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<v Speaker 2>worked on. No, those can be found on the it

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<v Speaker 2>Could Happen Here feed wherever you get your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 3>I liked the Ghost Conference one. I didn't dislike the

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<v Speaker 3>other one, but the Ghost Conference was really good.

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<v Speaker 2>It was fun. I had, I had, I had a

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<v Speaker 2>great time.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fun to hear from a someone who's skeptical around

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 3>the grift around ghost stuff, but is not like a

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<v Speaker 3>like raw pure angry atheists.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I'm not like a Reddit like debunker.

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:14.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm I Like, I think a lot of these these

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<v Speaker 2>ideas have some conceptual basis in the way that they

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:20.839
<v Speaker 2>interact with like our brain and how we form like

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 2>phenomenons that create our reality. But also I think the

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:25.919
<v Speaker 2>way that a lot of these ghost hunters are going

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.839
<v Speaker 2>about it is maybe slightly misguided and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>missing the point of what these concepts were like invented

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<v Speaker 2>for in the first place. And it is certainly really

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 2>interesting area to be and when I'm like when I'm

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:41.279
<v Speaker 2>when I'm like in these paranormal spaces because I I

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 2>believe in a lot weirder stuff than they do, but

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe in the type of weird thing they do.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's certainly an interesting thing to navigate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, it comes across and it's good listening. And

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:55.479
<v Speaker 3>if you're listening to this on that it could happen

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 3>here feed, you can listen to my podcast that comes

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 3>out every Monday and Wednesday called Cool People Who Did

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Cool Stuff, where I talk about history and people who

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:07.480
<v Speaker 3>were cool who did cool things. Actually, a lot of

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 3>times I have to talk about complicated people who look

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 3>through on the surface and then you realize that they

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of sucked but they still did cool things.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we're all you say that. Are you saying that

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<v Speaker 2>cool people are not universally good?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>In every single way about their life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And if you want to know more about Tobias Bukell,

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<v Speaker 3>you should google him. And his latest book is called

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<v Speaker 3>A Stranger in the Citadel. I haven't gotten a read yet,

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 3>I've read a lot of his other stuff, but John Scalzy,

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<v Speaker 3>author of the Kaiju Preservation Society, has this to say

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:46.760
<v Speaker 3>about his Toby's latest book, with A Stranger in the Citadel,

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<v Speaker 3>Tobias Bukell writes to the moment we live in with

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<v Speaker 3>a clarity and urgency that only fable can provide. Read it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I will leave you all with that and talk

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<v Speaker 3>to you next week on Sunday for the Cool Zone

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