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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and

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Speaker 1: I'm Mela and it's Wednesday, bitches. Happy mother fucking hump Day,

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Speaker 1: Happy hump Day. Have you humped lately? I have?

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Speaker 2: I'm jealous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I humped lately. I'm not gonna blast anyone, but

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Speaker 1: I've done some humping.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but I.

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Speaker 1: Am proud to say that. We did go to a

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Speaker 1: sex play party this weekend and I did no humping

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Speaker 1: at the play party and I felt really sexy about it.

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Speaker 1: I just did a lot of slow dancing, so I'm

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Speaker 1: sure the people I slow dance were with were like, bitch,

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Speaker 1: but I felt really good about it.

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Speaker 2: I was watching you. Yeah, you got mad at me.

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Speaker 2: I walked in front of her slow dancing moment and

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Speaker 2: she was like, bitch, what are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, this is my song and I'm looking at myself.

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Speaker 1: Can you have a seat? Thanks?

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Speaker 2: And you did?

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Speaker 1: You listened. I love you too. Friends that go to

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Speaker 1: play parties together stay together.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: We're in New York because we're some New York visiting

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Speaker 1: ass bitches and we can't sit the fuck down, and

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Speaker 1: we have a It's true. We get our life in

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Speaker 1: New York. We act like we don't have a live

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Speaker 1: we come alive, We don't have any kids, we don't

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Speaker 1: have any responsibility.

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Speaker 3: I'm still trying to figure out what to play party is,

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Speaker 3: So I mean, you don't want to play parties?

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Speaker 4: No my versioneers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we have a very vanilla guest today, very

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Speaker 1: square vanilla man. You may recognize his voice. He is

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Speaker 1: a former rapper, Joe.

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Speaker 3: But it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on the show.

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Speaker 4: Joe, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: We've been stalking you for a very long time.

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Speaker 4: Have you been a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's like previous dms in there you never check.

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Speaker 2: Oh, actually we're talking about stalking before we hit record

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Speaker 2: and that you know, we can't put stalkers in a

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Speaker 2: box because apparently I told Joe I don't stalk people,

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Speaker 2: and he said mmm, and I was like, no, I

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Speaker 2: don't pull up people's houses.

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Speaker 1: And apparently Joe thinks I look like a stalker because

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Speaker 1: I said, my part of New Jersey do you live in?

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Speaker 1: And he said I'm not telling you and I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to stalk you. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That's what's wrong with people? Look casually. She just said, hey,

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Speaker 3: where do you live? Just in case I stalk There's

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Speaker 3: just some questions today that it could get sticky fast.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and I have real live stalkers, so bitch is.

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Speaker 1: Might go a little crazy.

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Speaker 2: Actually, Jo's like, totally your type. You skinning as a beard?

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, you. You guys know each other's type.

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Speaker 1: We're wives, platonic wives. We know everything about each other.

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Speaker 1: I know what her pussy looks like. We got to

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Speaker 1: play parties together.

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Speaker 3: Oh shit, I didn't do my disclaimer. Anything said is

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Speaker 3: for entertainment purposes only.

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Speaker 2: Same he said, all for entertainment.

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Speaker 4: I don't mean it.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean it either. I just said it.

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Speaker 1: I'm the queen. That's the only thing I did at

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Speaker 1: the play party. I was in the smoking room and

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Speaker 1: I was like, no one said anything, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: has anyone ever tried a three way kiss? They were

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Speaker 1: like everyone's like no, And then like three minutes went

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Speaker 1: by and I was like, was anyone like to try?

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Speaker 1: And two gracious women came together and like we did

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Speaker 1: a beautiful, like very central three way kiss, and that

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Speaker 1: was as freaky as I got. But I felt like

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Speaker 1: I contributed.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell Joe what a play party is?

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Speaker 1: A play party is a party where anything can happen

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Speaker 1: and you're free to play with whoever you came with,

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Speaker 1: or others in a sexual manner. There were some toys there,

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Speaker 1: there were condoms available, a lot of sanitary wipes. It's

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Speaker 1: just a free party to or not play or not play.

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Speaker 1: You can voyeur, you could, you know. It's if you're

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Speaker 1: into watching people possibly have sex then or you just

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Speaker 1: want to smoke a blunt over there. It's it's fine.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, sounds like the swingers party. Yeah to me,

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Speaker 3: you go to one, Yeah, come on, well, I'm me.

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Speaker 2: Participate that. You don't know what to play.

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Speaker 4: We never called it a play party.

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Speaker 2: So you never participated. Just your boy would.

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Speaker 4: All of it. But I was boring that night, all

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Speaker 4: of it. That night, I was boring. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Erica's smart. She brings her people to the play party,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like that's like an ideal situation.

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Speaker 3: I bring my people to the play party and still

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Speaker 3: don't participate. I'm just going to watch y'all do this.

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Speaker 3: Wowd shit, y'all are freaking freak.

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Speaker 1: I'll take that.

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Speaker 4: How much?

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Speaker 1: Try that?

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Speaker 2: Maybe there was definitely some freaking shit happening. There's some fireplay.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, next time you guys go to a play party,

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Speaker 4: I want to go.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll bring you as long as you take

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Speaker 1: us to the strip club.

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Speaker 4: Oh definitely easy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, perfect. You guys heard it here first. If he

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Speaker 4: Us, they all know that I'll bring it to strip.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to back it seems that you're

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Speaker 1: going to really enjoy it. We know how to turn

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Speaker 1: the party up. We've been called the party starters of

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Speaker 4: Oh really is what we've been called? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Wow, okay what day is? Quickly the day they were there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but whatever day we show up is the day.

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Speaker 4: So what do y'all do to get the party started?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: I am a world class, top notch sexy dancer, which

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Speaker 1: really encourages other people to start sexy dancing and gets

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Speaker 1: the party flowing. So I take responsibility for that contribution.

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Speaker 1: I'm really friendly also, so people feel like they can

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Speaker 1: come dance with me, and so usually that's the ice

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Speaker 1: tipper and you.

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Speaker 2: I think I do sexy dancing too. I think that

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Speaker 2: I get people drunk and you guys.

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Speaker 4: Are just a bad combination.

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Speaker 1: You guys are like show you know where you're at,

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Speaker 1: right Jesus.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so yeah.

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Speaker 2: You never have to worry about inviting us to the party.

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Speaker 2: World will be fine. Just go do your thing. We'll

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Speaker 2: figure it out for the best part. Guests, I mean

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Speaker 2: you could ever have you know, when you go to

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Speaker 2: a party you got a babysit, a bitch, or.

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Speaker 1: In fact, you might leave us at the party like

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Speaker 1: I'm good, I'll be good here, I'll see you later.

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Speaker 1: I've met some friends.

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Speaker 4: Wow, and we're getting together to do a pod.

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Speaker 2: Whoa Joe feelings affirmation with with our audience. I know

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Speaker 2: that you said you are your whole life is an afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my whole life is an affirmation. It's affirmation all over.

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Speaker 3: Let me see, let me see, let me see, let

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Speaker 3: me see the people. Oh, here's an affirmation. One time

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Speaker 3: I was going to kill myself and then my pastor

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Speaker 3: call right in the middle of it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't even want to laugh, but that's definitely an how

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Speaker 3: that's an affirmation.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. I was just usually like we like repeat

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Speaker 1: it out loud. One going one was going to kill myself,

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Speaker 1: and then my pastor called me right before I did it.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to translate that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was crazy to me, Like, wow, I was

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Speaker 4: How the fun did you know that from all the

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Speaker 4: way over there? Like what are you trying to? What

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Speaker 4: is the universe telling me right now? Fine?

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Speaker 1: That your life? You have your life.

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Speaker 4: I will live another day.

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Speaker 3: I will find meaning in this he felt you and

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Speaker 3: finding meaning and that meant finding meaning in other things,

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Speaker 3: Like that's where the affirmation comes from. Too many times

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Speaker 3: in my life, God has just showed me that He's

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Speaker 3: prevalent and real in times of doubt, in times of

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Speaker 3: they put a gun in my head and pulled the trigger,

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Speaker 3: didn't go off a jam.

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Speaker 1: What the fuck?

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Speaker 3: The cops found a gun and said, hey, they thought

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Speaker 3: that I was lying because the gun wasn't even a

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Speaker 3: hood gun. We was in Jersey City at the time.

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Speaker 3: There was like these hood project niggas ain't getting this

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Speaker 3: type of gun. This kid's lying, That's what they thought

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Speaker 3: at first. Then they found the gun. They say, oh

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Speaker 3: my god, this gun never jams. Well, yeah, but God

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Speaker 3: is real, so you don't get to tell me what

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Speaker 3: areas where basically.

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Speaker 2: God is always present in your life no matter what.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he emphatically makes his presence know like for

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Speaker 3: the people that don't. There are people out there. I

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Speaker 3: have atheist friends the way there are people out there

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Speaker 3: that like talk faith. What you could tell it ain't

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Speaker 3: even get how that could be true. Like anytime there's

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Speaker 3: and put his foot down for me.

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Speaker 2: Amen.

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Speaker 1: Amen. We talk a lot about me.

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Speaker 4: And me to take out of church, especially.

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Speaker 2: God made we still have here.

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Speaker 4: That's true. That's true.

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Speaker 1: We celebrated the pleasure and the presence of God.

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Speaker 2: Do we have a car we want to pull, Joe.

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Speaker 2: We are witches in case you didn't know, In.

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Speaker 1: Case problem didn't tell you. I love you guys, but

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Speaker 1: we're God fearing witches. Okay, so today we're going to

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Speaker 1: pull a card. Today's card was the Star. The Star

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Speaker 1: card shows a naked woman kneeling at the edge of

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Speaker 1: a small pool. She holds two containers of water, one

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Speaker 1: in her left hand. The subconscious and one in her right,

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Speaker 1: the conscious. She pours the water out to nourish the

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Speaker 1: earth and to continue the cycle of fertility, represented by

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Speaker 1: the lush greenery around her. Now this card means as

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Speaker 1: the Star follows the Tower card in the tarot, it

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Speaker 1: comes as a welcome reprieve after a period of destruction

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Speaker 1: and turmoil. You have endured many challenges and shrip yourself

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Speaker 1: bare of any limiting beliefs that have previously held you back.

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Speaker 1: You're releasing your core essence who you are beneath all

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Speaker 1: the layers, no matter what life throws your way. Wow,

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Speaker 1: is this accurate? You know that you're always connected to

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Speaker 1: the divine and pure loving energy. You hold a new

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Speaker 1: sense of self and a new appreciation for the core

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Speaker 1: of your being. The Star brings renewed hope and faith

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Speaker 1: and a sense that you are truly blessed by the universe. Joe,

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Speaker 1: this card is for you, just affirming what you already

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Speaker 1: told us. Doesn't matter what kind of situation you get in,

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Speaker 1: you come out because you're supposed.

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Speaker 4: To be here, period, period, period.

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Speaker 3: That was beautiful, beautifully read, beautifully said. I agree you

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Speaker 4: No, no disrespect to them.

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Speaker 4: Yo, you speak to everybody. You speak to the bank bitch,

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Speaker 3: you what happened twenty fifteen. Would podca laughed at me

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Speaker 4: I love it. I love it, bless grateful.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I talk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta hold your craft, you gotta research. I

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Speaker 2: I'm a single mom. I don't know what the fuck

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, like, are you ever going to shut

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Speaker 3: When I leave the space for too long? I miss

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. Yeah, I feel that it's.

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Speaker 3: There was some real narcissistic sound and ship have you

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's like a word that gets thrown

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Oh look, you look up affirmation.

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Speaker 4: I see that was sure to be certain.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I don't play. So what am I looking

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Speaker 3: NARSA Because when they were calling me a narcissist, I had.

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Speaker 3: I've heard that, and that's why it's important to look

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Speaker 4: Like cloud, it's like cloud.

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Speaker 4: But these words mean things, words mean things. I'm a

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Speaker 2: No, but I do want to get to know you

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Speaker 4: I'm an open book. What would you like to know?

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Speaker 2: We're going to play a little game that we like

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Speaker 4: I don't have any of those have any triggers?

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Speaker 2: You don't have any triggers? No, no, no, this is gonna

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Speaker 1: are you ready?

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Speaker 4: Who came up with most of these words?

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Speaker 2: It's a combined effort.

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Speaker 4: You know that's a team friendly.

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Speaker 1: We are a team.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fine, I did like eighty?

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Speaker 1: We're fucking We're a team.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Are you ready?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Love, free love, marriage, that's your answer.

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Speaker 3: Okay, marriage is your marriage today. But that's back to

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's what exists out there today,

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Speaker 4: I would like to get married.

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Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of horror stories with divorces.

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Speaker 3: If we could just take the business away and make

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Speaker 4: Of love been awesome.

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Speaker 1: Interesting monogamy okay, I feel you are you? Are you monogamous?

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Speaker 4: I mean I agree, right. What does your monogamist look like?

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Speaker 1: It looks different from you? Fatherhood?

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Speaker 4: I love it, love it is everything.

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Speaker 4: While you why you ain't played this out in your head?

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Speaker 1: Favorite position nice?

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Speaker 2: There's no bad positions. There's no favorite position.

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Speaker 1: What are your hard nos?

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Speaker 3: I got so many nots in what area? Business? Personal relationship? Boundaries?

446
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Speaker 4: What what are we looking for? I got? My favorite

447
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 4: word is no.

448
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,640
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do let's do business and relationships?

449
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 4: Okay, business. I'm not doing it.

450
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 3: If it don't fulfill me, if it don't satisfy me,

451
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Speaker 3: if it don't make me happy whole, I'm not doing it.

452
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 3: A dollar amount is not gonna get me out of

453
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Speaker 3: bed today. That's a lot of no's come come from that.

454
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Speaker 3: And you said personal, Yeah, I can't take care of adults.

455
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Speaker 2: Man, I can't take care of adults.

456
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Speaker 4: I can't. I can't. My kids have been coming, I

457
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Speaker 4: got kids. I can't do it anymore.

458
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Speaker 1: What about pet peeve mm?

459
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Speaker 3: In terms of what business personal life in general, people.

460
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Speaker 4: That have no and this is going to sound horrible

461
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Speaker 4: because I was tardy today.

462
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 3: But people that are tardy, people that totally disregard other

463
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Speaker 3: people's time, like even today, like it was some interview

464
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 3: ship that got kind of jumbled up. But when you

465
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Speaker 3: play with my time, it's like the biggest disrespecting the.

466
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Speaker 1: World celebrity crush. Last time you masturbated every time?

467
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Speaker 4: This morning?

468
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 1: No, maybe last nighttime? Last time you had sex?

469
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Speaker 4: H two weeks ago?

470
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Speaker 1: What is this favorite porn position, favorite porn category?

471
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Speaker 4: Oh, I just typed the women name, women's name.

472
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Speaker 2: What's your favorite porn star?

473
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Speaker 4: Mood of man?

474
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Speaker 3: Do I want to see Do I want to ask?

475
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 3: Do I want to see a chick handle three dudes?

476
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 4: Do I want to see? Like? I want to see that?

477
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 3: Then I'll probably type in, oh, what's my baby's name?

478
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Speaker 4: The white girl liz Anne?

479
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Speaker 1: H white women? I haven't, but you like Lizanne.

480
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Speaker 3: I like the way that she handles the men. It's

481
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Speaker 3: a controlled thing. But that's a blues black does the

482
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Speaker 3: same thing. And I'm naming it, and I'm naming oh, yeah, yeah,

483
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Speaker 3: she fo them all and I'm naming throwback when they're like, oh,

484
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Speaker 3: the thing is old.

485
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Speaker 2: But we were just talking about that. How porn is

486
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Speaker 2: a porn is porn if you're a porn Justin Slayer

487
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Speaker 2: the other day and these young guys are like, oh, yeah,

488
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Speaker 2: we know Justin Slayer and I was like, yeah, because

489
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Speaker 2: of porn is the porn is porn.

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Speaker 3: I try not to watch porn too much because I

491
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Speaker 3: want to do it.

492
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Speaker 2: You want to.

493
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Speaker 3: I want to Watching a porn will just make me

494
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Speaker 3: want to act out sexual visual some sexual fantasy, like

495
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Speaker 3: why do I have to look at this if I

496
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Speaker 3: can create this so well.

497
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Speaker 2: Some people watch porn and it's not necessarily something that

498
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Speaker 2: they want to act out it's not necessarily like something

499
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Speaker 2: they want to experience. It's just turns them on. No,

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, would you, but I mean if.

501
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Speaker 4: That turns.

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Speaker 1: But sometimes yeah, I like I'll watch I was gonna say,

503
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Speaker 1: I watch a gang Bang, but I don't think I

504
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Speaker 1: want to be personally gang Bang.

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Speaker 4: But wait, wait, wait, you just twisted what I said.

506
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Speaker 3: If you watch gang Bang and you could get a

507
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Speaker 3: live gang Bang to happen in front of you that

508
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Speaker 3: you weren't participating, and then you would enjoy the same.

509
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Speaker 1: No, there are some parts that I don't even know

510
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Speaker 1: if I want. I don't even want to know if

511
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Speaker 1: I want to watch it live. Okay, I have fantasies

512
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Speaker 1: that strictly live on the internet.

513
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Speaker 2: Like I'm like like a male male.

514
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Speaker 3: Okay, you can't even say that when you go to

515
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Speaker 3: play parties because you have no idea what fantasy will

516
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Speaker 3: come to.

517
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Speaker 4: Life right right in front of you.

518
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Speaker 1: That's true. I mean I don't know your daddy fantasy. No,

519
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Speaker 1: I want to role play my daddy, my daddy fantasy.

520
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Speaker 1: I want to roll. I have a this is not popular,

521
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Speaker 1: Like I have a fantasy of being dominated by like uh,

522
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Speaker 1: I like to watch like the daddy porns or like

523
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Speaker 1: the uncle porn or like this sleep and then get

524
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Speaker 1: taken advantage of porn.

525
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Speaker 2: So basically say you don't want to fuck your uncle.

526
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Speaker 1: I don't want to my uncle or my dad, but

527
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Speaker 1: I would like to be in a position to play

528
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Speaker 1: to role play those type of things out. But that's

529
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Speaker 1: because like I'm a sub and I like to like

530
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Speaker 1: to be a brat and I kind of like to

531
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Speaker 1: be dominated in that state. So that is like, oh.

532
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Speaker 4: Brat teamer type.

533
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Speaker 1: Yeah, got it, But I okay, let me just shut

534
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Speaker 1: the fuck up telling my business.

535
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: Already knows this should already I know.

536
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Speaker 4: That's what we're here. I didn't know any of this one.

537
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: Now you know. Now you know, you know, I like it.

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Speaker 1: I love it Spotify, Big up to Spotify, Gus ad okay, Charlottmagne.

539
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Speaker 4: And big up to Charlemaye love them.

540
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Speaker 1: Are your dumb or your sub both your switch?

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Speaker 4: Then?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's what it's called. I'm just letting you know,

543
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: okayse anyone else asking.

544
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Speaker 3: I've never refer to myself that way, So it's fine.

545
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Speaker 1: You never know. You never know. You might find yourself

546
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Speaker 1: how to play party with the good moms. Someone may

547
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Speaker 1: ask you, and you may have to use the like

548
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Speaker 1: the lingo.

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Speaker 4: You're talking to me for to get the fun up.

550
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 4: I'm here to watch you. That's what I learned about me.

551
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 4: I'm watching you.

552
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's the conclusion of our of our trigger words.

553
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: We know so much more about you now.

554
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Speaker 4: I feel like you didn't learn anything.

555
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: I think he did a lot of moaning and nodding.

556
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 4: I was trying to be so vulnerable with you.

557
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Speaker 1: Guys, I'm gonna need you to be more.

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Speaker 4: What do you want to know? I'm such an open.

559
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: Come on, we want to be closer. Let's let me

560
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Speaker 1: recreate the play party for you. Let me show you

561
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Speaker 1: what happened. Let's slow dance. We already tried to I

562
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Speaker 1: think off air. I don't think we heard this. I

563
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: already tried to offer Joe a three way kiss so

564
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Speaker 1: he could tell us who's a better kisser, and he

565
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Speaker 1: didn't decline. But we didn't do it.

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Speaker 3: So I just have someone in my life I want

567
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Speaker 3: to kiss while I'm excited.

568
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Speaker 1: You have a girlfriend. Oh okay, are you a monogamous relationship?

569
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you can't three way kisses.

570
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Speaker 2: That's what this is about.

571
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: So it's about her, Okay, it's not. You're just not

572
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: saying no, that's not like that's a part of that's

573
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: one of the rules, right, don't kiss other bitches, even

574
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: if it's on podcast.

575
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: Bitches you met two minutes ago.

576
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Speaker 1: We're getting vulnerable. I care about women's.

577
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 4: Women a myth. We don't get about these species.

578
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: We actually care about.

579
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Speaker 2: Really what womenom is You think women empowerment is a myth?

580
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't. I don't think. Y'all tell me every day?

581
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: Really, oh please, that's not true. Well, we are real

582
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: women empowerment bitches, We don't. We're not. We're not haters.

583
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: We love women, we want to empower them.

584
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a myth. I do think that

585
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Speaker 2: women are learning how to empower other women. And so

586
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: it's it's a jury.

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00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 4: You see the amount of women voted for Trump.

588
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Speaker 1: That's true, Like, do you really want to talk about this?

589
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: Something to what race?

590
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Speaker 4: For those r Kelly got invicted?

591
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,239
Speaker 3: They say the streams when five hundred percent you think

592
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 3: that's meant yeah, okay, let's move on there.

593
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: For sure?

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00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: Ye all the men, So you guys did it to yourself?

595
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you.

596
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: Okay, so your dad, right, I'm a dad. You have

597
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: two sons? Wait, question by dad.

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Speaker 2: I just have a question because this has been like

599
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: a long like I've been asking men this question and

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00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: it's and even on their last guest he said he's

601
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 2: a daddy doesn't like to be called daddy in the bedroom.

602
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: This person that I'm seeing doesn't like to be called

603
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 2: daddy either. You are a dad? Does that bother you?

604
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: Dade daddy?

605
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 4: No? I am daddy in the bedroom, big daddy.

606
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I told you not all dads don't like it.

607
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: I know. I don't think they're going to be his

608
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: position on it, because I feel like this has been

609
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: coming up a lot like that.

610
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 3: Don't but it don't even be me like I don't

611
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: encourage the daddy. I don't try to solicit the daddy.

612
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: But you don't not like it?

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00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 3: You're not but I and they're doing daddy like things

614
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 3: like they normally land on, oh your daddy, that's daddy,

615
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 3: and I'm like, yeah, got.

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Speaker 2: It, Well that's a lot. That's a whole mouthful daddy.

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Speaker 4: No, Kane, No, No, shouldn't say that. I say that.

618
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 4: Oh Jesus, what she says yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kane might not be so bad.

620
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: Okay, back to sorry.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you're a father, right, you have two sons.

622
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 1: You're a boy dad, and your oldest son is twenty

623
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Speaker 1: years old ye, and your youngest is four three almost four.

624
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: What have you learned between you have obviously a big

625
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: gap and your you know, your fatherhood, your children. What

626
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: have you learned from the first time?

627
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 4: I've been fucking that's what you're saying.

628
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: I know you've been fucking Joe.

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Speaker 4: Sound you have a big gap? Yep, I was fucking it.

630
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 4: I'm fucking now you were.

631
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Speaker 1: You were pulling out better in between you were your

632
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: pullout game has been strong for about sixteen years.

633
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: You know what, if I really want to think about it,

634
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: here you'll learn about me. I think I was trying

635
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: to have kids both times though.

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00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were yeah that one.

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00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, my pullout game is is nice.

638
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: Obviously you went sixteen years without Yeah, no, I wanted

639
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: to be Okay, what have you learned in your fatherhood

640
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: of journey since the first time till the second time?

641
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: What has changed?

642
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 3: What has changed from the first, well, the first the

643
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: first I was gone for some real pivotal years like

644
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: I was running the world. So that's the main difference.

645
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: This time I get to see it all. I'm there

646
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 3: for it all. First words, first steps, first piss. Oh,

647
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 3: that's a dick like learning for early shit. So I'm

648
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 3: there for all of that. That's great. The trick with

649
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 3: my oldest is just having to guard against myself now really,

650
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: like I know where I'm sick in the head, so

651
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: I know where he be trying to get slicking in

652
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: the head, and I don't like it, but it's me.

653
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: So you got to now try to teach against you, right,

654
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Speaker 3: It's interesting.

655
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: It's a mirror.

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Speaker 3: It is interesting as they age to have to do that.

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Speaker 3: That's beautiful.

658
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Speaker 2: Does it make you want to undo those things that

659
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: you are you one?

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Speaker 3: Well, hopefully, and that's the beautiful thing about evolution. Hopefully

661
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: by the time you get to that phase, you undid

662
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 3: it already, which is why you should be able to

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00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: explain it to your child differently, like in areas you

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Speaker 3: might have failed at when you were.

665
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Speaker 4: Going through it.

666
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: Do you like, how do you do you talk about

667
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: sex with your kids?

668
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: I have to I have to sexist everywhere.

669
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: Conversation, conversation, No, no, it's no such thing.

670
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: As one conversation. It's an ongoing conversation me and I'm blessed.

671
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: Let me start there. I'm blessed that my oldest son

672
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 3: feels really comfortable speaking to me about about conversations that

673
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: might be table.

674
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 4: Right, so when that exists, that don't ever. And he

675
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 4: might have.

676
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: Been fourteen, I want to say fourteen when the conversation

677
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 3: just started with me looking through his socials with his

678
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: DMS and Twitter and so forth, and the shit I

679
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: would see in there.

680
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 4: He said, Oh, I was I would have never guessed that.

681
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: I would have never.

682
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: Guessed that the young women were doing what they were

683
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: doing in the d MS and that the kids were

684
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: receiving ship.

685
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 4: So you had to learn about that shit at such

686
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 4: an early age as a kid.

687
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: Did he show you?

688
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 4: Yeah? Here he show me, And I'm and I'm asking

689
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 4: questions because you got to learn.

690
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: From your kids too. It's like, yo, this is how

691
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 3: your d ms operate on a normal It's like that. Yeah,

692
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: it was another time, and I want to put my

693
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: kids business out there.

694
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: There's another time.

695
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: I learned that he was having sex in her house

696
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: while her parents.

697
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 4: We wasn't known.

698
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: No, he'd be hurt.

699
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: I'm just saying. I mean, I'm just saying.

700
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: Excuse me. See, and now I'll see back in our dad,

701
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 4: of course I've done that.

702
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: Of course, that's what I'm saying.

703
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 4: And that's what I mean about.

704
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: You should have You should be at a place where

705
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 3: you've learned from that so you can give it to

706
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: your kids.

707
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: So did you?

708
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 4: Uh No, but I offered. I offered it. See I'm

709
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,239
Speaker 4: that parent too.

710
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: Now if I if we have to do this in

711
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: a safe, sound and efficient way, then let's explore that.

712
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: Don't just go in somebody house with a famous dad

713
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: so that when she's angry at you or emotional with you,

714
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: she could say you did something. Is nobody in near

715
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 3: to vouch for nothing? That could just be a mess.

716
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: If you think worst case scenario. Thing with kids is

717
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: they don't really think worst case scenario. Lawyers do it right, right.

718
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: No, I think, God, I think about the I mean,

719
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: I have a famous dad and he I did not

720
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: take into consideration anything when it came to her at all.

721
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: I'm lucky that Instagram was not around during that time

722
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: or else. I mean a lot of shit. I'm like,

723
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: oh God, his.

724
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: Fans are gonna you're teenage all of my crazy podcasting episodes.

725
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: But my dad is fully supportive of my career and

726
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: anything that I want to do, thankfully, and also was

727
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: fully supportive of me during like when I was a child.

728
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: He was the person that I talked to about sex. Okay,

729
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: my dad has fucked an immense amount of people, like

730
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: and it's what he told me. He's like, you'll never

731
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: fuck is meny people as I have, so you might

732
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: as well just tell me if you're fucking. And this

733
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: was because my mom assumed I was fucking and was

734
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: totally terrified and low key shaming me a little bit,

735
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: and she was passing me on to my dad like

736
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: oh god, Dad, like you deal with this shit. And

737
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: then he was like you ny as well just tell

738
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: me and I was like, yes, Dad, I fuck. He

739
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,239
Speaker 2: was like perfect, just don't get pregnant. Call me if

740
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 2: you need help. I was like, wow, and that's all

741
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: I really need to hear. And I was so happy

742
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: to hear that, you know what I mean. Also never

743
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: considered how any of my actions could potentially affect him.

744
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: That's so funny. My dad was at my house recently

745
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: and I had like my birth control pills out, and

746
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: I had like a flashback because in high school I

747
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: got some birth control because I was fucking and I

748
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: left it on my bed and my dad saw and

749
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: it was shit, hit the fucking fan in my house,

750
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck is this?

751
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: It?

752
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: In my head, I'm like, isn't it good?

753
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: Is it a good sitting?

754
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: But I just remember, like, Wow, I'm so happy i'm

755
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: thirty three now because I don't have to be fucking

756
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: scared that I niggas know I'm fucking. But also they

757
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: would get me a hotel room on like special occasions

758
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: like prom I'm like, this is the most confusing fucking

759
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: shit ever. No one's talking me about this. I just

760
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: got in trouble for the birth control, but now you're

761
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: getting a hotel room. Black families, I don't know. We

762
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: need to have these conversations. That's why I'm happy we're

763
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: parenting different. Do you talk to your son obviously sexually

764
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: act Well, I don't know that, but probably funny. Do

765
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: you talk to him about like prioritizing the woman he's

766
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: having sex with her pleasure.

767
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 4: He's got prioritizing her pleasure?

768
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell no, why no, it's not much John, Yeah,

769
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: you're a man, that's a part of having sex, right,

770
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: like you do you prioritize your partner's pleasure when you

771
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: have sex with her?

772
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 4: Yes, but you've got to stay out of women's business.

773
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: Like, that's not women's business.

774
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 4: That ain't my place to teach him. Absolutely, I don't

775
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 4: think so. I totally disagree with that.

776
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: Why you don't think like when you prioritize your woman's pleasure,

777
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: your partner's pleasure.

778
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: That you all both have a better experience from a

779
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: man actually would be more impactful than hearing a woman tell.

780
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 3: Okay, no, no way, wait wait wait, wait, see, I

781
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 3: see what y'all look good at doing. Y'alllet's say some

782
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: shipping and twist. What you're saying what y'all said was,

783
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 3: do you teach your son how to prioritize pleasure bring her?

784
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: I did say?

785
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: I said, have you talked to him about prioritizing whoever

786
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: he's having sex with her pleasure?

787
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 4: Why did I hear teaching?

788
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, put your finger right here, we're.

789
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: Not here to like do that, Like that's creepy and

790
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: wo not like first you speak.

791
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 3: About the important prioritizing her. Of course, I'm a fucking gentleman,

792
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: are you That's what I wanted to know. Sex is about.

793
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 3: That's what the you gotta that has to happen for

794
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: sex to be successful, that has to happen.

795
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 4: You have to prioritize her.

796
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: And so you talk to him about this, Yeah, of course,

797
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: and like to wash your hands and clean your nails.

798
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 3: And yes, man of cures, pedicures, man escaping cleanliness next

799
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 3: to godliness. Condom, Stay away from the dusty hose?

800
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 4: What a dusty hose? On them?

801
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: Test on them?

802
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: Okay, experience you got fast.

803
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: We got out of that one.

804
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: Can you identify any in the crowd?

805
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 2: Okay?

806
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: I have a question. How are your dad your single

807
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: dad or no, you're a dad who's dating. Do you

808
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: introduce your women to your children? Or you keep that

809
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: separate until it's super serious?

810
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, keep it separate.

811
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: When do you know it's time?

812
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 3: When you know, when you know I haven't really gotten here,

813
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: I haven't gotten here. I try to keep that real

814
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: separate with my youngest her and I have that understanding.

815
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 4: I would think you have.

816
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: To talk about it. It's not.

817
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 4: We have talked about it.

818
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the thing of ours. But I mean, you

819
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: never really know if someone is holding up their end

820
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: of the bargain talking, you're going on, You're going on

821
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 3: your your level of trust. So I trust that we

822
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: have that, that we have that my oldest son, she's married.

823
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 4: She wants me to meet her husband.

824
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: So you haven't.

825
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: I haven't? Why because I just haven't. They just got

826
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 3: married recently.

827
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: So do you plan on meetings?

828
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: That's a new thing. Well, she said, it's important, So yeah,

829
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: I meet him. Do you guys have an important part

830
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: in my in my son's life. I would have sown

831
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: in the house together they married. This is a yeah,

832
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 3: you want to meet him? Have you got to do that?

833
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: Have you met any of her boyfriends before?

834
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 5: Well?

835
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: I knew her boyfriend before, like samehood, so you know

836
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: the guys Like yeah.

837
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 1: You guys have a good relationship though today.

838
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, real good, real good today after all of my

839
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: rebelliousness and immaturity and just ignorance.

840
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you in therapy?

841
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 4: Always always in therapy.

842
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: It's good.

843
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 3: Of people go to therapy when something is wrong. I

844
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 3: just never stop therapy. I just never stop it. And

845
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 3: let's talk. I had a great week. Let me tell

846
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 3: you about it. Like it don't matter what I'm talking

847
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: a mint about.

848
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: How have you like journeyed into having a better parenting situation?

849
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: I need advice through turmoil, through turmoil, through turmoil. It

850
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: was tumultuous, like I can't sugarcoat it for you. Me

851
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 3: and my oldest son's mom. Whatever it was to go

852
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: through with that, we went through on the fly, like

853
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: and I didn't have too much guidance. I went through

854
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: the in between boyfriend, that's just around now, it's like, really, dog,

855
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 3: while you're not talking, I've been through. Oh were calling

856
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: somebody else?

857
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 4: Dad? Really dog, like I've been. It's been ugly.

858
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: I don't want to say this here, but I'll say

859
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 3: it a lot of times. For dads, we get really

860
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: excited and throw parties when our child's mom finds.

861
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: Love parties, throw a party. I don't think my baby

862
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: daddy's sewing any parties.

863
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: I would pray and hope that mine does. I really would.

864
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 4: And none of the mothers ever want to hear it.

865
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: But if you just speak to dad, we be weighing

866
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 3: why why.

867
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: Why do you.

868
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: Think because he thinks we're gonna stop getting on your nerves, they're.

869
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: Gonna like what are they to? They're gonna come in

870
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: and take on some of the role of the what

871
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: make I don't I don't know. I'm trying. I'm guessing

872
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 2: just for me.

873
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: Are you assuming like the baby mamas still care about

874
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 1: the baby daddies and that's what.

875
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 4: It is, said Joe, assuming that? Or is that?

876
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: Are you like stereotyping all baby mamas that you're chasing

877
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: the baby daddy? Still not all.

878
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 4: Of everything is anything, So I would never.

879
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: Do that, true, Please explain. I need to know. I

880
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 2: want concrete answers.

881
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: A lot of relationships and without closure, a lot of

882
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: relationships and without finale right, without things being resolved.

883
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 4: A lot of times.

884
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 3: When two people try to move forward, the feelings between

885
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: both parties convolute that. And whether it's the guy that

886
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 3: starts dating first or the girl that starts dating first,

887
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 3: dating helps to convolute things right. When it's messy like that,

888
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: you know what helps to fix it, Just like with

889
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 3: anything else, the good, healthy, stable relationship that comes makes

890
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: all surrounding areas better. So now she goes to meet somebody,

891
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 3: y'all might not be on the best of terms, but

892
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 3: dude is filling her up, Dude is pouring into her,

893
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: Dude is lifting her self esteem.

894
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 4: Dude is making her feel good all of.

895
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: The things that she complained about, or things that she

896
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 3: might have had an issue with, or things that she

897
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: might not feel so great about with herself. A real

898
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 3: nigga's going to help with, right, Like, I've been on

899
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: the opposite end of that. I've been with women and

900
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: I've had to constantly fight for their kid's dad. I

901
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: had to be that person's voice. And because we don't

902
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: get that so often. When you get that, she just

903
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: gets better, She gets better and her focus becomes different,

904
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 3: She gets she becomes centered.

905
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 4: Now the focus is really the kid.

906
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: It's not really none of the emotional shit that was

907
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 3: around anything.

908
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: I don't think that men like, yes, I.

909
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 4: Started with men and women. I started with men and women.

910
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: I think I don't disagree in some capacity with that statement. However,

911
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: I do think that if you're doing what you're supposed

912
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: to be doing anyway, like regardless, like showing up for

913
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 2: your kid, doing all the things that you know you've

914
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: signed up for, that it doesn't matter whether she is

915
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: in a relationship or not, if she if she.

916
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 3: Has fully nothing that you're saying is true right now,

917
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 3: it's true.

918
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 4: No, it's not.

919
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 2: It's the truth in my situation. If I felt like

920
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: my child's father was doing everything in his power to

921
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: show up as an equal co parent, I would not

922
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: be on his head. I would not be on his ass.

923
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's you. You're you're the anomaly. I'm just saying,

924
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 3: But normally, what's happening in the world is not we

925
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: aren't seeing just Christine examples of this.

926
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 4: We're seeing people. I mean, not just focus on women.

927
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna say women, because I'm talking to women

928
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 3: and we're here, we see women.

929
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 4: Do I want to say this?

930
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: Go ahead ahead, you already do already hear you.

931
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: See women convolude relationships and not being able to compartmentalize

932
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: between the parenthood and the kid.

933
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: I will say men are definitely better at compartmentalizing. I

934
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: feel like that's a I don't disagree.

935
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: I disagree because I think that is the general belief,

936
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: and I think it's based in stereotype that men are

937
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: less emotional and women are just not are so emotional,

938
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: and that they can't control it compartmentalize.

939
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 4: It has nothing to do with being emotional.

940
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: I don't feel it.

941
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 4: Just is the ability to separate and assess.

942
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: I experienced a lot of men who don't have the

943
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: ability to separate and also just yeah, separate, what's prioritize

944
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: your child because you are so involved and you can't

945
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: separate the relationship that we used to have. And now, yeah,

946
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: niggas are very messy and very emotional egos.

947
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: Even from a lot of times stronger in the man

948
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: and being able to do that. But I will say

949
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: that men are really great at compartmentalizing just in general,

950
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 2: even think about sex, like men can really have sex.

951
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 2: I think women also. I know there's women out here

952
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: that can have sex without emotion. I've done it, and

953
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: you've done it, and whoever's listening has probably done it.

954
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: But I feel like men are much better at that.

955
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: It's literally kind of like part of their DNA in

956
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: ways that like compartmental because they can have sex and

957
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: it's purely not even about connection, it's about arousal, whereas

958
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: women we need a little bit more connected to that arousal,

959
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 2: you know, Whereas men don't really need a sapio sexual

960
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 2: moment like they see a big ass and their dick

961
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: is hard and their dick is telling their brain we

962
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: must fuck, whereas I'm just like, oh, my god like

963
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: look at his seek.

964
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: No, not even when you see a big ad the

965
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: wind blows in there. Now, talk about when when your

966
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 3: dick is functioning that way.

967
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: But I don't agree that. I think it's a case

968
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 2: by case situation. I think that when a woman becomes

969
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 2: gets a partner or you know, a boyfriend, a husband

970
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: or whatever, there are things that are being fulfilled. Right However,

971
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 2: if that baby daddy isn't showing up for the kid,

972
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. If you're getting dicked down by hobby,

973
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: I'm still pissed, Like, nigga, what the fuck?

974
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 4: That's a new variable. That's a new variable.

975
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: No, But nothing I say is ever talking about the

976
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: people that are not showing up for their kids.

977
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 4: That's what I'm I'm not saying a nigga will take

978
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 4: care of that. I'm never saying that. But you're saying,

979
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the other stuff.

980
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: You're talking about the man that is the great father

981
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: is excited when.

982
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 3: His Yeah, yeah, I'm always speaking from that for you.

983
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: You're doing the basic, the bear of the basic.

984
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of men think they're great

985
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 2: fathers when they're not. No, I think that most men

986
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: who are parents not all of them. I mean, I

987
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: guess Nigga's know one they're sucking up. But I think

988
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: that a lot of men have this skewed idea of

989
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 2: what a good father is. And the men that I've

990
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: spoken to who I know, in my opinion, I'm like,

991
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: you could do a lot more. They will argue with

992
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 2: me and see that they are great.

993
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: See the way time out, we found the trigger of mine.

994
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 3: She's triggering me just that fast.

995
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 4: Listen to that.

996
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 3: So now I've heard this a bunch. I've heard this

997
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: a bunch, and this this is a problem. So let

998
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: me address this. Dads be great, but that's on our

999
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 3: dad scale. That's in dad land. Dads aren't primary parents.

1000
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: Dads to get half the rights that y'all have have

1001
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 3: to sign a paper when our child is born, and

1002
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: y'all have to agree to it. That normally never happens.

1003
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 3: So yes, your responsibility in motherhood as the primary parent

1004
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: is greater than the dads. And we get a lot

1005
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: of moms that carry resentment. Let me finish, Okay, let

1006
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: me finish, let me finish.

1007
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 4: I'm still not finished.

1008
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: Still not finished.

1009
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 3: And you get a lot of women that carry that

1010
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: resentment around and take it out on the guys because

1011
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: we didn't.

1012
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 2: Sign up to be the primary parent. We signed up

1013
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: to both of us being primary.

1014
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: Shouldn't have left, shouldn't have left?

1015
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 4: Should have left? What do you mean? Should have left?

1016
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 4: What do you mean? What does that mean?

1017
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: It's two words left, the relationship left. What if we

1018
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: weren't happy in it? I don't think, because, oh.

1019
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 4: Well, then leave. But now we have, now we've segued

1020
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 4: into a new college.

1021
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: Gives the man like he doesn't have to be primary

1022
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: anymore because we left because of whatever situation caused us

1023
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: to leave.

1024
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: No, and let me not confuse people out there. If

1025
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 3: you're not happy, you should leave always right. What I'm

1026
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 3: saying is that often when women, in my experience, are

1027
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 3: at that fork in the road, it's shortsighted.

1028
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 4: And that's a human thing.

1029
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: It's not a women thing where you're in your emotions

1030
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 3: and you can only see this tunnel and the end

1031
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 3: of it. But in the grand scheme of things, is

1032
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: that what you were supposed to do because that nigga

1033
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: double taped that picture Shorty with the fat ass in Kentucky?

1034
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: Was you're supposed to pick up your kid because all

1035
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 3: your family that.

1036
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 4: Don't live here and don't know this nigga and was

1037
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 4: never in love with him, and pick up and go.

1038
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 4: Your entire support system, that.

1039
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: Mom, dad, family infrastructure, all of that is going because

1040
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 3: he fucked her. Let me, I mean wanting women to

1041
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 3: make sense of what to me, I wasn't happy, he

1042
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: wasn't happy.

1043
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: Let me say something. You got it baby, as a woman,

1044
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: as a child bearer, let me tell you something. The

1045
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: expectation too much.

1046
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 4: Now gotta get out of here. You'll get me in trouble.

1047
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: The expectation of the family unit is so deeply ingrained

1048
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: in women from the beginning of time. You watch TV,

1049
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: you see the media, know every there is not a

1050
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: sink there. I can't think of any woman who most

1051
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: women who are in a relationship get pregnant, decide to

1052
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: say we're going to start a family together with intentions

1053
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: of being together in a family unit that you literally

1054
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: women want that idea, and that's been ingrained in us

1055
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: for so fucking long that it really generally takes a lot,

1056
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: a lot for a woman to say, fuck this whole situation,

1057
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 1: because everything in media, everything since we're born, is told

1058
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: that it looks like this is what it looks like

1059
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: and if it doesn't look like this, you failed.

1060
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: I love her. She agreed with me, then disagreed with me.

1061
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: But I'm saying like, especially as a black woman, the

1062
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: stereotype of being a single black mom or baby mama

1063
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: is so negative that literally, like you could nigga could

1064
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: be fucking up, just repeating the same fuck ups. You

1065
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: could be miserable, and you're like, please, God, Jesus, you

1066
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: will do anything. You will pray if you'n you may

1067
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: not even be a Christian, you might pray to the

1068
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 1: Buddhist God. Lord, just make this shit fucking work, because

1069
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: it is. The image is we're so attached to that

1070
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: family that I do not think that women generally prematurely leave.

1071
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: You're given me thirty three year old women ideology. So

1072
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 3: let's start at this top of what you just said.

1073
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 3: And I agree the concept, the concept of what it should.

1074
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 4: Be and what our grandparents did and what.

1075
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 3: We should do when the idea of hey, so it

1076
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 3: takes a lot.

1077
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 4: It used to take a lot.

1078
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 3: Right your grandma would know about the hidden family up

1079
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: the street and still be by granddaddy's side.

1080
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 4: It would take a lot.

1081
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 3: Today, I would argue that concept don't exist the same

1082
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: way at all today. That's why you see examples of

1083
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 3: niggas saying relationship goals to something with the lowest the bars.

1084
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 3: Why because you've seen two niggas, a girl and a

1085
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 3: guy with some jewelry on for seven months straight and they.

1086
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 4: Take c picks together. That's why this relationship goals.

1087
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: Today we're seeing more and more examples of women's tolerance

1088
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: being like this and getting the fuck out of here

1089
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 3: and feeling like, hey, we could even do it, and

1090
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 3: this is about to get me in the We won't

1091
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: explore fucking emasculating men, but women are feeling like, hey,

1092
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 3: I can have this baby and do without this nigga.

1093
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: I can have this baby and be privy to eighteen

1094
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: years of that check and I can support me and

1095
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,479
Speaker 3: I don't need no niggat.

1096
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 4: No, I'm telling you what we see in today.

1097
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 3: So you spoke about the concept and how we were

1098
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: conditioned coming up. I'm arguing that ain't the case no more.

1099
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: We are not conditioned that way.

1100
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: We're not speaking for dusty bitches, We're just speaking.

1101
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: For mature I think that we are still conditioned to that.

1102
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: I think even though dependent woman even that woman that

1103
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 2: can makes more money than her man or her boyfriend

1104
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 2: and is quick to say, fuck you, I can buy this,

1105
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: this and that amount. It's still this deep seated line

1106
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: or like, I don't even know how to describe it,

1107
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 2: this thing that's within women that we want that family structure.

1108
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: This is what we're told is success.

1109
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 3: Now, that's that's true. I'm talking about executing. I'm talking

1110
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 3: about the bar in terms of tolerance and what you're

1111
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: willing to go through to maintain that.

1112
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 2: Well, but I think men have a much lower tolerance.

1113
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: Women are supposed to put up with so much shit.

1114
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 2: Would a man put up with the same shit when

1115
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: a nigga put up with his woman constantly cheating on her,

1116
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: on him or even once I didn't, No, probably not.

1117
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 3: He's that's that's not rooted. In fact, you just landed

1118
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 3: down your own I'm just saying it's presented with the

1119
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 3: option that maybe.

1120
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 2: Because you're triggered by double standards. I'm just saying this

1121
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: is a double standard as well.

1122
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,959
Speaker 3: But no, because you putting answers in the guy's brain,

1123
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 3: and that's another trigger mind.

1124
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 4: Because women do that to me. You say, how might

1125
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 4: if I did it? How would you like it. I

1126
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 4: might love it.

1127
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 3: I might love it if you position this conversation in

1128
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 3: a way that we can, of course have and I

1129
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 3: took her back?

1130
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: How many times I.

1131
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 4: Would always take her back, just so she took you back,

1132
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 4: took We don't.

1133
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 3: Have to talk about the past. I will know her

1134
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 3: back for cheating. I'm an adult. You fucking somebody is

1135
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 3: reason nine hundred.

1136
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave your nominal.

1137
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 4: Reasons.

1138
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: Most men are not that mature. Most men that's like

1139
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: the number one Hell no, they could fuck hello bitches.

1140
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 3: Age And this is why the young chicks are like

1141
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 3: in old niggas like this. As you age, you subscribe

1142
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 3: to different things. I don't even have it yo, me

1143
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 3: and you together, and you were cheating right now. I

1144
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 3: don't even have it in me to fix it. I

1145
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 3: don't even have it in me to chase you around

1146
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 3: or argue with.

1147
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 4: You to stop it.

1148
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 3: My decision becomes, take a shit, get off the toilet.

1149
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 3: She wants to fuck, do I still want to have

1150
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 3: something to do with her or not? The end, I'm

1151
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 3: not in the business. When you're young, you try to

1152
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 3: will your fucking will your shit on to somebody else.

1153
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 3: I don't have time for that.

1154
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: Free love, free life.

1155
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 3: You need to be themselves, be comfortable at all times,

1156
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 3: make whatever decision you want to make without pressure from

1157
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 3: somebody else. It's man relationships now, where two niggas is

1158
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 3: just there because it's convenient or they're scared to tell

1159
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 3: each other they don't want to leave if you gave

1160
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 3: her the same money that he had, which you stay, like,

1161
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 3: come on stop?

1162
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: Okay, well I agree and disagree, but come on, let's

1163
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: do it. No, I'm just saying that, Like I do believe.

1164
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: I agree that. For me especially, I think I would never.

1165
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 2: I wouldn't leave my partner for cheating. There's a level though,

1166
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: there's a level of disrespect in the cheating, like having

1167
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: a baby that I wouldn't be tolerant of, and I

1168
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 2: wasn't tolerant of, especially in my position.

1169
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 4: Situation, so I can't have a break.

1170
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: I stayed with my partner throughout cheating until the niggat

1171
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: showed up with a baby, and then I said, okay,

1172
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: well this is where this is my hard no.

1173
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: Way?

1174
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 4: What's the hard no?

1175
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: Having a baby outside.

1176
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 2: The relationship of my outside of our relationship? Is that

1177
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: a hard no for you? Or no? Like? Is there

1178
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: a spectrum in your in your cheating or in your

1179
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 2: free offness.

1180
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 3: No, And I don't understand when I don't want to

1181
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 3: get me in trouble.

1182
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: No more, please, I want to know you're not gonna

1183
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: get in trouble.

1184
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 3: I never get when people when when women, I understand,

1185
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 3: I understand leaving because of that, But that happens. In

1186
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 3: any event that it did happen, you would want a

1187
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 3: man that shows up, not a man that tries to.

1188
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: Hide the baby, kill the baby girl and doing some show.

1189
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: But it's a level of responsibility that I think women

1190
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 2: we don't women who there's women who stay, which is

1191
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: you know, that's their prerogative, and then there's women who leave,

1192
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 2: which is me. And there's a level of responsibility. I

1193
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: don't want to have it that I don't want to

1194
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 2: take care of this baby I didn't ask for. I

1195
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: don't want to be responsible for dealing with this woman

1196
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 2: who I didn't ask to deal with, you know, whether

1197
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 2: we had a relationship that was set up in the

1198
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 2: way that we're open and we you know, And that's

1199
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 2: kind of.

1200
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 4: Like see I received this as an ego thing, it's not.

1201
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 1: I think there's a boundary. There's a boundary. I think

1202
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: if you're in a relationship with someone and they choose

1203
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 1: to have sex with someone else and then are so

1204
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: irresponsible to not wear a condom and then go ahead

1205
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: a nut up inside that bitch, you aren't fucking thinking

1206
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: about me.

1207
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 3: And this is what I mean about the reasons that

1208
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 3: women will leave. All right, you got y'all, got it?

1209
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 1: That's true, that's a boundary.

1210
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 4: That you checked this out. Cheating is going to occur.

1211
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 3: Absolute Sometimes when cheating occurs, condom or no condom, things

1212
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 3: happen in course of the cheat. In the event that

1213
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 3: you had a man that that happened with. I mean,

1214
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 3: of course you can leave them, but I assume you

1215
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 3: would want him to step up to the plate and.

1216
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 1: Love and no, absolutely absolutely ess you to pressure anybody

1217
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 1: into having an abortion. You are, You lay in your bed,

1218
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: You made your bed, you laying it. But do I

1219
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 1: have to participate in Well, but.

1220
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 3: Y'all talking to somebody who says cheating is reason nine

1221
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 3: hundred that I will leave.

1222
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 4: So that's where my position comes.

1223
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: Wait, let me ask you something. Relations y'all.

1224
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 3: Y'all are saying, fuck the baby if you cheat on me. No, No,

1225
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 3: it's the baby.

1226
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 2: The cheating is not the problem.

1227
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 3: The baby might can well see that. I understand that

1228
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 3: the baby mic can come from cheating. So if cheating

1229
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 3: is not the problem, then the cheating can't be forgiven.

1230
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: But that's why I said, it's going so far as

1231
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: you have not only you're cheating, and obviously should happens,

1232
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: we're all dogging happens, but you are not being conscious

1233
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: of your relationship and how that's going to make me

1234
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: feel if you fuck up and then that in somebody,

1235
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,479
Speaker 1: and then now you're in the position where a bitch

1236
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: wants to have a baby and you have to be

1237
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 1: there from that baby. You're putting me in a position

1238
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 1: where I might have to participate in that and I

1239
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: don't want to.

1240
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: Time, and your energy is less because you're giving it

1241
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: to something that we never as a unit decided we

1242
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:00,280
Speaker 2: were doing together.

1243
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 3: The cheating thing for me is what if he was

1244
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: targeted as a cheater, then what do you do targeted?

1245
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: Well, if you're targeted as a cheater, you you have

1246
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: even more responsibility to make sure you're.

1247
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 4: Bestud and tell me about what you would do.

1248
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: It wouldn't matter to.

1249
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: Me it's targeted target was trying to trap him. That

1250
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: was that what you mean? I just want to be clear.

1251
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: If a woman, if you know women, if you're in

1252
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: a position where women will try to target you because

1253
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: they think you have something that they want, like money

1254
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: or whatever the fuck status, you should be even more

1255
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: careful in those situations. I think it is realistic. If

1256
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm an NBA player and I know there's a bunch

1257
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: of group of bitches, I'm gonna be more more conscious

1258
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: of putting on.

1259
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: A rubber Oh you're not.

1260
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 3: You're speaking from the position of a woman that has

1261
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 3: never been in that position. That is not the position

1262
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 3: of men. Are the position of men I am. I

1263
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 3: see examples every day of the men you're talking about and.

1264
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 4: Who they're fucking. It ain't what you're saying.

1265
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 2: All I have to say is I am grateful that

1266
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: it happened. I am grateful that I experience that because

1267
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: it has vastly changed my perspective on the type of

1268
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 2: relationship that I want to have. Because my relationship, cheating

1269
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: wouldn't exist because we are always going there is no

1270
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: I don't own you, And I think in my relationship

1271
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: we owned. The agreement we made was that we essentially

1272
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: own one another when you make that agreement of like

1273
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 2: you can't cheat on me, or it's over on both sides,

1274
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: Like there's this level of ownership that you're basically agreeing

1275
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: to and that you're setting yourself up to be disappointed,

1276
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: which is exactly what I did. I take ownership for

1277
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: the fact that I think, in my limited knowledge of

1278
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: what I could ask for in a relationship, I set

1279
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: myself up to be disappointed, and I was, and I

1280
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: made my choice. And I'm fucking estatic by the choices

1281
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: that I've made because I wouldn't literally be here with

1282
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 2: good moms making bad choices, like I wouldn't have this

1283
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: platform right now if I didn't have if I hadn't

1284
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: made that choice. Essentially and now, in my relationships, I

1285
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: don't require That's why cheating isn't and it's not a

1286
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: non negotiable for me, like I don't. I would never

1287
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: I wouldn't leave my partner because there would be no cheating.

1288
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: I mean, essentially, there could be if I have set

1289
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: up boundaries within my openness and you cross those. But

1290
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 2: I think that what I'm saying is that I don't

1291
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: believe that cheating for me is a hard no. But

1292
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: I understand why women leave because there's a level of

1293
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 2: psychology and psyche that happens when those things happen. When

1294
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: and like you get depressed and you go through depression

1295
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: and you start doubting yourself and you want maybe you

1296
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 2: want to kill yourself, and maybe that pastor isn't there

1297
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: to fucking call you.

1298
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 4: I wonder why y'all do that When niggas cheat, that's

1299
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 4: the pot.

1300
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 3: Well gets so sad, want to die, pressed and stuff,

1301
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 3: feeling like you're not really you're not really her.

1302
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: Like well because women are repaired against one another. And

1303
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: that's like the first thing that I did was like,

1304
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: you know, look at her shit and be like what

1305
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,919
Speaker 2: the fuck bitch you? You know? But now I when

1306
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: my friends do that, I always like challenge them to

1307
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 2: be like this has nothing to do with you actually,

1308
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: like why you know, like your nigga made that choice too,

1309
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: you know. And I think that there's a lot that

1310
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: has to go on and a lot of healing that

1311
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 2: has to happen in that space. But it's tricky. It's

1312
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: a tricky to me.

1313
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 3: It's about like giving grace, right like, even in that moment,

1314
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 3: you have to be.

1315
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 4: Able to give grace.

1316
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: I agree.

1317
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 3: So it's not for me to beat myself up about

1318
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Speaker 3: or feel like I'm less of a man or like

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Speaker 3: my biggest small and.

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Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to say one thing. There are much

1321
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: less men who are sticking with their women who may

1322
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: have stepped out and maybe they fucked up and got pregnant.

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01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: There are way less men who are like I forgive you, baby,

1324
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: and I'm going to hold your hand through this pregnancy

1325
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: and stick by your side because I love you and

1326
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: you fucked up. I'm gonna just ride it out. I'm

1327
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: gonna hold your hand when you give labor to that

1328
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: nigga's baby. There is a very small population of men

1329
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: who are willing to do that.

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Speaker 3: For me, that would present a new a new opportunity

1331
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 3: for me to fall deeper in love with my partner.

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01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 3: For you, wow, look at how you showing up for

1333
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 3: this baby that I know you was just cheating. I

1334
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 3: know you were just fucking but now look you live

1335
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 3: with the result of your actions.

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01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 4: Now I know I don't have to worry about how

1337
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 4: I feel about this because I think.

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01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 3: I know how you feel about this, and to watch

1339
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 3: how you maneuver this and handle this and consider me

1340
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 3: and make all of this ingratiate all this in your world.

1341
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 3: That would present a new opportunity for me to fall

1342
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 3: deeper in love with my partner, my partner and show

1343
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 3: me a new side of them that I never saw.

1344
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: And I'm just going to assume that's because you've done

1345
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: a lot of work and you've you've matured.

1346
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 3: You have not always well no, no, no, no, no you

1347
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 3: forty one?

1348
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 1: Okay, So how long do you feel like you've been

1349
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: involved this evolved less toxic masculinity?

1350
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 4: Man, it's recent, don't be food.

1351
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: So basically have.

1352
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 2: To find an over that you did, Like, how did

1353
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 2: you come to this work?

1354
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 4: Turmoil? A lot of turmoil.

1355
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 3: All my ship came from like learning and discovering in

1356
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 3: real time and like hurting myself, hurting people, bad decisions,

1357
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 3: self centeredness, ego, pride, rage, acting out sometimes like toxic

1358
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 3: when you're in a toxic relationship and don't know that

1359
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 3: you in one because you're so comfortable in this, Like

1360
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 3: like it's a lot of that so today, Yeah, whatever,

1361
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 3: I know it come from. We was on some ship

1362
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 3: back then. We was bugging and we don't want to

1363
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 3: live like that.

1364
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:43,439
Speaker 2: Congratulations, thank you, I'm proud of the words. I really

1365
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: hope that men listen to this episode. I did tool

1366
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 2: like it's important that the gems that you've dropped and

1367
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 2: the things that you've shared, and I haven't agree to

1368
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 2: all of them, but I think that they're important. I

1369
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: think overall you're you are, You're onto something, and I

1370
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 2: hope that you can spread this message to the men's

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01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: Let them the men.

1372
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 4: Let them know Joe is not a deal.

1373
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 2: Bitches like the Funk.

1374
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: Too, and they also can fuck with no strings attached.

1375
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: It happens forgive them, No.

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01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 4: It does happen. I love when it happens. I love

1377
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 4: that for us.

1378
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: Why because it's an opportunity to grow in your relationship.

1379
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 4: Wait, fucking women with no strings?

1380
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: You love when that happens.

1381
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: I got it.

1382
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: You said you love when you're you're a woman with

1383
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: no strings attacked.

1384
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 2: No others for a woman like what are the look?

1385
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: There's no there's no specific traits that look.

1386
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 4: I want you to I want you to not be dusty.

1387
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 2: Okay, I want you to not what dusty means, but.

1388
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 4: You know what does mean?

1389
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 3: I guess how does that's accumulate when when something is

1390
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 3: sitting here for too long.

1391
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, you know what dusty is.

1392
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: Maybe she has been touched what.

1393
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 3: I mean, you're trying to protect your little woman audience thing.

1394
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 3: But you know what dusty bu look like trying.

1395
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 4: To do what I know?

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01:03:55,360 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 2: Maybe dusty bitches listening to the dust off. Okay, and

1397
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 2: I'm trying to help. I'm trying to help you, dusty bitches.

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01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: I helped them. I need them to identify themselves first,

1399
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, need we need some.

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01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 4: Before I do.

1401
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: I'll che you up there, some grease on you.

1402
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Well, thank you for coming on.

1403
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 4: You guys were awesome. Thank you for having me.

1404
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: Oh wait wait wait wait wait, we need a horry.

1405
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: Oh right, I'm not letting Joe leave without a horry.

1406
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: You know, we want to know, we know, we know that,

1407
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: we want to know all your business. I don't know

1408
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: who's calling me horri a horry?

1409
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 4: Oh good horri? What's a good horry?

1410
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 2: Who stories?

1411
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 4: Who hasn't who hasn't done this stuff?

1412
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 5: Freaking nasty, scary, it's not freaking Let's see, like a

1413
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 5: time I was out at and this, I mean, I

1414
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 5: don't think it's so crazy, but I was share it.

1415
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 3: I was out at our old favorite strip club in

1416
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 3: the Bronx, and I met a young lady who was beautiful.

1417
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 3: It happened to be in the Girls. That was great

1418
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 3: because I had a girl at the time. And I

1419
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 3: called my girl and I said, hey, I'm here with

1420
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 3: a girl that's in the Girls and she's into you,

1421
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 3: and I'm in there so we can be into each other.

1422
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,479
Speaker 3: About twenty five minutes from the house. What do you think?

1423
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 3: And she said cool, great, bring her over. So bring

1424
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 3: her over. I waited till the shift was over. That's

1425
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 3: the worst thing in the world.

1426
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 4: With fun.

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01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 2: No, no, no to shift over five.

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01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it was bad.

1429
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 3: It was bad that as Yeah, we left late and

1430
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 3: I waited for it and that I was so into her,

1431
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 3: but my girl was excited. It sounded like a vibe.

1432
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 3: So I waited and she got off. She got in

1433
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 3: the car and we got back to the house and

1434
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 3: my girl was sleep.

1435
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: Should wake her up?

1436
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 4: My girl was sleep?

1437
01:05:58,320 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: Is that that's the end? Right?

1438
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: No?

1439
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 4: So I went over there.

1440
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: I was like, that is a hord story.

1441
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 4: I said, babe, you I might have whispered that, get up, girl, please.

1442
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 4: Every I got this girl over there. She didn't get up.

1443
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 4: So being hospitable. I went and took care of things,

1444
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 4: took care of the guest.

1445
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 2: So nice, so kind of you, so kind.

1446
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: But your girl kiss when she woke up?

1447
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 4: How would I know what was there to be pissed about?

1448
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: She was okay with you taking care of the guests.

1449
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 4: The guest was gone.

1450
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: Did she ask in the morning what happened? Did you

1451
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: bring her nothing.

1452
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 4: To talk about? Oh? Well, guest is gone. You slept

1453
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 4: late taking care of hey while you were sleep.

1454
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 2: No, no, but guest knows. Wow, hopefully she's not a story.

1455
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 4: You should have up. You should have been awake, you snoozed.

1456
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

1457
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 2: That was a good one.

1458
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1459
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 4: I fell horri shafter work. I don't live that.

1460
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 2: Way anymore now I.

1461
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 4: Don't cheat in the same house.

1462
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would bother me. I'm like nigger, but I

1463
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: get it. I did if you fell asleep, If you

1464
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: fell she needs to.

1465
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 2: Be quiet or did you take her to like another She.

1466
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 3: Had to be quiet. Put my hand over her mouth

1467
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 3: while she was trying to make noise. But I kind

1468
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 3: of got her going.

1469
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 1: That kind of turns me on. Yeah, disrespectful but.

1470
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 4: Hot, Yeah, pussy frobbing. Well, it was for the fire.

1471
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 4: That's what she said.

1472
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 2: What's your SI again? What your si?

1473
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: He's lying?

1474
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 4: Tell you? It would be a sad.

1475
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 2: Got it.

1476
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: You don't know your other signs you're rising and your moon? Huh?

1477
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 2: I just want to know?

1478
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 4: Ah fuck? Did I forget right now? Was one? Actually?

1479
01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 4: I do have to guess. I know.

1480
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,479
Speaker 3: I'll just pull it up so you guys can judge,

1481
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 3: judge you.

1482
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: You know, women want to know.

1483
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 3: Okay, the pad.

1484
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: Because the actually say.

1485
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: There is I feel like.

1486
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 4: Somewhere it does somewhere on there I believe.

1487
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 2: Do you believe in the stars?

1488
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 4: Yes?

1489
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 3: How could you not believe in the stars? Run my

1490
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 3: birth chart on everything that you can run it on.

1491
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, then you should know what you're rising in your.

1492
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:27,759
Speaker 4: Do I just have a bad memory.

1493
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna run a quick analysis, okay of my native

1494
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 2: storing one second? All right, well here we go. Joe

1495
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 2: is a Virgo.

1496
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 4: We do that part.

1497
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 2: His moon is Taurus and the other one is bad.

1498
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, his it's bad.

1499
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 2: Where it gets tricky hair?

1500
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 4: What's tricky about it?

1501
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: And should be an astrologist?

1502
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 2: Hold on, I'm looking for his descendant, look to try to.

1503
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 4: See who I'm compatible with.

1504
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking for no because we respect women. Please, we're

1505
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: women's empowerment. We would never try to see that.

1506
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 4: I'm sure.

1507
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for hanging out with us and

1508
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: letting us.

1509
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 4: Thank you guys for inviting me. This was awesome.

1510
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 2: You'll never get rid of us.

1511
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna I don't want to talk to you.

1512
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna be all in those I don't.

1513
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 1: I don't want to get rid of that clearly is triggered.

1514
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 1: And we're going to be your friend in the group chat.

1515
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 3: Please, And we're going to go to a strip club

1516
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 3: and we're going to go to play parties.

1517
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a whole wholesome vanilla five and two.

1518
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: Play dates with Joe.

1519
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 2: All right, you guys, you know where to find us.

1520
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 2: It's Good Moms, Bad Choices on all podcasting platforms. Follow

1521
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: us on Instagram at Good Mom's Underscore, Bad Choices, Rate

1522
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 2: and review us because reviews matter, especially for black people,

1523
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 2: and listen to the Joe but Podcast. Probably already listening

1524
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 2: to Joe. I was gonna tell him to like self promote,

1525
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: but he niggas now, Joe, all right, we'll catch you

1526
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 2: guys next week.

1527
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 1: Bye bye, Ella solo recorder Lalus and the last three

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01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: as by Lamoiselle La Ranzla