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Speaker 1: Miami Marlins prospect coverage brought to you by earning their

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Speaker 1: stripes here on the Fifth Stripes podcast channel. It's Eli Susman.

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Speaker 1: The COVID nineteen pandemic presents unique challenges to Marlin's player

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Speaker 1: development in twenty twenty. The lack of a minor league

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Speaker 1: baseball season, has compelled most MLB teams, including the Marlins,

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Speaker 1: to release dozens of young players. As for the rest,

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Speaker 1: only a small percentage of them could be squeezed onto

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Speaker 1: the club's player pool for the year. Sixty man limit

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Speaker 1: for major leaguers and prospects combined really tight fit. So

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Speaker 1: we will be diving into the difficult decisions that have

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Speaker 1: been made here on the eve of quote unquote summer camp,

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Speaker 1: and perhaps a few closing thoughts on the Marlins twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty draft Class two some of those players that were

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Speaker 1: released in the aftermath of the draft. We're going to

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Speaker 1: who is here with me? Got three of my colleagues

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Speaker 1: joining me on the call. Ethan Bodowski, Hey, Ethan.

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Speaker 2: How are we doing today? Guys? Good to be back.

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Speaker 1: Good to be back, could be back with a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff to talk about. Ian Smith, what's happening.

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Speaker 3: How's it go?

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Speaker 4: My friends? Glad to be here talking about some more

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Speaker 4: ons baseball.

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Speaker 5: And Spencer Morris, everybody, let's talk some baseball. Lots of baseball, well,

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Speaker 5: I guess lots of baseball. Talk about not a lot

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Speaker 1: Kind of up in the air at the moment. But

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Speaker 1: we got big news on Sunday. That's when the Marlins

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Speaker 1: with Ethan here. How the choices compared the expectations versus

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there weren't a ton of surprises. You know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you see all the big names

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Speaker 2: You know, Monte and Jazz and six Dow and Eddie

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Speaker 1: The thing with Monte, I had a conversation with Lewis

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Speaker 4: and any evaluator I've ever read on Banfield is always

434
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Speaker 4: praised kind of those leadership qualities that are really important

435
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 4: at that position. But I can't help but think, looking

436
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 4: at this group of catchers, that maybe would have been

437
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 4: a good idea to hang on to Tyler Heineman. I mean,

438
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 4: I know that he's kind of a journeyman guy. It

439
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 4: took him until he was I think twenty eight to

440
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 4: make it to the big leaks. But he's always been

441
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 4: a guy who hit a little bit in the minor leagues.

442
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: He had a little bit of success in this cup

443
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 3: of coffee.

444
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 4: And I think I'd probably rather have him in Mike

445
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 4: Camp and a lot of these names. They're at the

446
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 4: catcher position. Pretty low leverage move there, But just something

447
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 4: I thought about.

448
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: No, there was a big deal back in. It was

449
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: right after the regular season ended that they released him,

450
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: even he had that very brief appearance of course in

451
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: the major as you mentioned, and hit a very atypically

452
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: strong offensive production from him in at Triple A last year,

453
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: and there was some people that saw the very small

454
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: samples as of him the majors and won him around.

455
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: By all accounts, a great guy, and you're right, they

456
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: didn't like totally fill the void. They of course invited

457
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: a few more catchers to spring training, and also in

458
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: this Stupiter group is Brian Navaretto, who was in the

459
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 1: Twins organization last year. I wonder if there's some sort

460
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: of connection with their new bench coach, James Rawson, whether

461
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,959
Speaker 1: he was involved in that. Maybe he's been working together

462
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: at the spring facility with the Twins the past couple

463
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: of years. Whether that was some sort of recommendation, but it's, yeah,

464
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: not quite the same track record that that Heineman had.

465
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: He's in the he's with the Giants now at this point,

466
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: and pretty interesting opportunity for him. But I mean, so

467
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: many pitchers in this stupid degree that are it's oh boy.

468
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the thing.

469
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 3: You know.

470
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 2: You look at all these pictures and again I go

471
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: back to the fact that in a shortened season, all

472
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 2: teams are gonna be desperate for arms, and you look

473
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: at guys that were possibly going to bike Major league,

474
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 2: you know, appearances this year sixt jumps right at you.

475
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: Neither who's in the other group, but he jumps right

476
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: at you. You know, I mean Jordan Holloway is what

477
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 2: twenty four, twenty five, and you know, I've said that

478
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: he would be better bring out of the pen. And

479
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 2: then I think the real big one that nobody's really

480
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 2: talking about, and it could kind of just appear to me,

481
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 2: is George Guzman. You know, everybody wants to see him

482
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: as a reliever, right Like every Marlins fan is like

483
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: put him at the back end. He said time and

484
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 2: time again that he is going to fight every day

485
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 2: to be a starter for the Marlins because of the

486
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: way he pitched at the end of the year last year.

487
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 2: But maybe he gets a shot, you know, maybe they

488
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: give him a shot with that electric fastball and a good,

489
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 2: you know, a breaking pitch that can compliment it. Maybe

490
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: you know, he gets a chance, and maybe he's the

491
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: guy that the Marlins call on to help make a

492
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: difference at the back end of the pen. I don't

493
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: think it's very likely. But when you look at guys

494
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 2: that are kind of off the radar that you say, hey, maybe,

495
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 2: you know, maybe they see some time, I think George

496
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: Guzman is a guy that you could watch out for

497
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: to get some innings at the back end of the pen.

498
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: Right. I mean with both of those guys, both Hallle

499
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: and Guzman, the clock is ticking a little bit on

500
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,719
Speaker 1: them because this is now the second year on the

501
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: forty mint roster. If you're not going to have them

502
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: use another minor league option on them. And both of

503
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: them where you love their first two pitches, You love

504
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: their fastball and their breaking balls in isolation, if you

505
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: don't factor in anything else, and you wonder that stuff

506
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: plays up even more if they go to the bend.

507
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: But Marlins have been pretty consistent in terms of developing

508
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: them in games where they've been exclusively in the rotation.

509
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 1: And with Holloway, he was coming off an extremely inconsistent

510
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: year last year performance wise, where he had excellent peaks

511
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: and it's also very low valleys where he struggled with

512
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: his control. But with both of them, it's you want

513
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: to see how they fit in one way or the other.

514
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: And the fact that they have the kind of they

515
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: check a lot of the boxes that you want from

516
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 1: someone that could be dominant for just one ending at

517
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: a time, and the fact that they're already on the

518
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: roster gives them a leg up. And of course I

519
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 1: promised that I was going to talk more about Johann Kizzada,

520
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: because Kazada was a guy that was picked up very

521
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: late in the off season, is late January when it

522
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: is like deal beginning official. He's another one that came

523
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: over from the Twins organization. He's pitching in the Florida

524
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: State League last year. He's the tallest guy in the

525
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: organization six foot nine, and he's not totally filled out,

526
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: but once he listed at probably like two hundred and

527
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: forty two hundred and fifty pounds. He's a big guy,

528
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: the big guy with a big fastball. And it's not

529
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: just the ve low, because that's obviously the first thing

530
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: that you kind of pay attention to when you look

531
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: at someone's fastball. It's just the v low, and he's

532
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: a guy that is routine lee in the mid to

533
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: high nineties and can touch one hundred at times. But

534
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: it's more so also the spin rate that he has

535
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: on his fastball. It's one of the higher spin rates

536
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: of any Marlins prospect. I guess you could call him

537
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: a prospect, but he's now been in pro ball for

538
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: like seven years, twenty five, it'll be twenty six later

539
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: this year, where even though he's not on the roster,

540
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: he's someone that you wonder, there's not really all that

541
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,719
Speaker 1: much you're going to learn about him from keeping him

542
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: in the minors. He's someone that if you just bring

543
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: him up to higher levels and just see whether it

544
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: all comes together at the major leagues. But he's kind

545
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: of all about that basketball, not just the velocity, not

546
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: just the spin rate, but also the ability that he

547
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: has to like keep the ball down and generate a

548
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: lot of grounders. He's only allowed I think four home

549
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: runs in his entire minor league career as well. But

550
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: it would be a pretty interesting jump competition level bring

551
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: him from high ad to the majors. I think he

552
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: had a pretty significant injury in the past, and I

553
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: think I've been talking about him for like a minute

554
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: and a half, which might be too long, because he

555
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: is he has a big long shot to actually factor

556
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: into the equation, But he was just another that I

557
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,239
Speaker 1: was really amused by because he wasn't He wasn't on

558
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: our radars at all. He wasn't at major league spring

559
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: training in the first place. But I'd be really curious

560
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: about figuring out from the team that why they made

561
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: that decision to bring him as part of the pool

562
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: if he wasn't, you know, initially considered in that kind

563
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: of group a few months ago.

564
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I I'm with you. I'm pretty intrigued

565
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 4: by Gazana, and I do think that I would want

566
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: to throw them out there this year and just kind

567
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 4: of see what I had. I think that with guys

568
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 4: like Guzman and Holloway. Holloway in particular, I think the

569
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 4: pandemic probably hurt players like that more than anybody else.

570
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 4: These are guys who had really tough time during the

571
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 4: last the last time they were out on the field.

572
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 4: They're looking to kind of re establish themselves, and that

573
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 4: opportunity may just not be there at all for them. Potentially,

574
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 4: you know, you can go out in the in inter

575
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: squad work and really impress, maybe get into some big

576
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 4: league action and get a very limited opportunity to showcase yourself,

577
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 4: but it's not going to be nearly as much as

578
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 4: what you would have had in a normal minor league season.

579
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 4: And I think that, you know, whether it's fair or not,

580
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 4: the team is going to be less confident putting somebody

581
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,719
Speaker 4: like that out when the lights are on, so to speak,

582
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 4: and the games count. But a guy like Izada, I think,

583
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 4: you know, the last time he was on the diamond,

584
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: he looked pretty good. And like you mentioned, I mean,

585
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 4: the six' nine height isn't just kind of like a

586
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 4: unique thing in the in the game, program it's very

587
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: advantageous for a Picture AND i think that you talk

588
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: about him kind of being a one pitch, GUY i

589
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 4: think that that helps him kind of mask that lack

590
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 4: of secondary stuff because having such a huge frame for

591
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 4: when it creates a very awkward angle for the. Hitter

592
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 4: just the direction the stuff is coming in from is

593
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 4: unique compared to any other pitcher they're. Seeing it often

594
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 4: adds the deception as. Well and you're talking about adding

595
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 4: those dimensions to a fastball that's already plus or better

596
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 4: just based on the velocity and. SPIN i think, that's you,

597
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 4: know that's enough for success in the. BULLPEN i, MEAN

598
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 4: i think the kind of classical example of that kind

599
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 4: of Pictures John, rouch who had a really lengthy big

600
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 4: league career as a lady name reliever. Closer he was six.

601
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 4: ELEVEN i think they can have something, there AND i

602
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 4: think that he's probably a little bit more, polished a

603
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 4: little more ready to go than A guzman Or. HALLOWAY

604
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 4: i do think That Max meyer is probably more ready

605
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 4: to go than any of, them but that's another, matter

606
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 4: and they're more variables.

607
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: There, YEAH i think when you talk, about you, know

608
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: a guy Like, KAZADA i think a lot of the

609
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: at the end of the, day a lot of the

610
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: guys that you're going to see in the majors this

611
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: year are the projects that are you, know a little

612
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: bit older on the older side of prospect age that

613
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: they want to get a look, at you, know and

614
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: SO i think everybody immediately will look looked at this

615
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: list and, said oh my, God jerraars on, it and

616
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: oh my, God jazz is on, it and oh my,

617
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: God Blood day you know WHAT i. Mean and they

618
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: said Blood day's can be playing in the major leagues this. Year,

619
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: well you, know let's let's slow down a little, bit

620
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: let's be a little. Realistic and you, KNOW i hate

621
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: to be the pessimist BECAUSE i want to See blaedet

622
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: AND i want to See, jazz want to See monte

623
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: more than. Anybody so but we kind of got to

624
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: be realistic with. This there are only thirty roster spots

625
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: and that's the most that it's getting to and then

626
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: it's going to only get you, know a smaller roster from.

627
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: There so we have to be realistic and we have

628
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: to look at it and, Say, okay The marlins have

629
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: said they want to win, games and you, know maybe that,

630
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: changes BUT i doubt it does with the way the

631
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: organization has handled. Things so they said they want to win,

632
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: Games they're only going to take the guys that they

633
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: see as big league ready as you, know and they're

634
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: gonna you, know some of these, projects LIKE i, said

635
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: are going to be the guys that they're going to

636
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: give chances to to kind of show their stuff and

637
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: show what they got and see if they can. Stick

638
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: and so, YEAH i think there's a there's a place

639
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: for a guy Like kazada on this. Roster and it's

640
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: the same way that there's a place for a guy

641
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: in a make or break year Like Jordan, holloway or

642
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: there's a place For Max meyer if they're in win

643
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: now mode and they think.

644
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 4: Get to.

645
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: Win SO i think that's the kind of guy you're

646
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: going to see on the. ROSTER i don't think the,

647
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: obviously The marlins aren't going to throw out their lineup

648
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: of you, know nine minor. Leaguers BUT i think that

649
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 2: we have to kind of tailor expectations to the reality

650
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: of a big league season and the reality of what

651
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: the big league, season the big league roster would look

652
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 2: like in a one hundred and sixty two game, season

653
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: and we kind of have to look at it and, Say,

654
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 2: okay add four more guys or five more. Guys who

655
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: are the five that you? Add AND i don't think

656
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: that the guys that we want them to add are

657
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: going to end up being the guys that they're going to, add.

658
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: Just like every organization has had to make these kind

659
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: of tough decisions this, year with minor league contraction coming

660
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: up and with the reality that there is only so

661
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: many opportunities at the major league. Level it was right

662
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: after the draft that The marlins made a bunch of

663
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: cuts to their minor league organization throughout all levels of the.

664
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: Organization mike count is about forty one players that they

665
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: released just in the past few. Weeks guys that really

666
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: weren't all that heavily considered for the, playerpool of, course

667
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: and ones THAT i guess the organization had some doubts

668
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: about ever being impactful major. Leaguers i'm not going to

669
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: read all forty one of them on. Here we do

670
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: have articles on Fish stripes that outline them all with

671
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: some brief biographical details about. Them about half were ones

672
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: from The Dominican Summer, league ones who had never come Over,

673
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: stateside a few that hadn't even played official games. Yet

674
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: but at the same, time there are a handful that

675
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: are pretty. Recognizable the ones that jumped out to me the.

676
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: Most we mentioned this. WELL i mentioned this On twitter

677
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: a few times How Peyden colberson was a right hander

678
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: that was drafted in the middle rounds for them in twenty,

679
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: eighteen given a six figure signing, bonus and just based

680
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: on reports from what he was looking like in the

681
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: backfields In. Jupiter The spring had made a lot of

682
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: strides with his breaking. Ball he already had a plus,

683
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: fastball and the question is whether he would be consistent

684
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: enough with this, delivery whether he would develop enough of

685
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: the rest of his pitchmicks in order to be. Effective

686
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: and the signs from him were pretty. Encouraging The spring

687
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: only twenty three years old and AS i, said given

688
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: a big signing bonus by the current front office and

689
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: yet released in this purge from the. Organization but a

690
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: bunch of other ones that are recognizable from the same.

691
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: Draft Milton, smith the, second who was not someone as

692
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: all that projectable as an, outfielder came from the community

693
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: college In, Mississippi Meridian Community, college same school as Actually

694
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: Corey dickerson wants too before he came to the, pros

695
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: and he won the highest batting averages in the entire

696
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: organization the past couple of. YEARS i imagine that he

697
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: was pretty surprised by being let, Go but of course

698
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: he hadn't been tested at higher levels yet a handful

699
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: of guys who had been tested pretty high up in the.

700
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: Organization Dustin beggs was someone that was drafted and developed

701
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: by the organization since twenty. Sixteen he had made it

702
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: all the way up To TRIPLE a last. Year he

703
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: had a small injury during the. Season OTHERWISE i wonder

704
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,479
Speaker 1: whether he would have snuck on to the major league

705
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 1: roster at some. Point not all that sexy of a skill,

706
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: set but someone that had just been performing pretty adequately

707
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: well and had been shown up until his most recent,

708
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: injury that was a pretty durable. Guy AND i saw

709
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: him pitching In australia over the winter as. WELL i

710
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: wasn't quite sure what that was, about but he was

711
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: a guy that was in the organization for a number of.

712
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: Years And Justin. Twine Justin twine was a former second

713
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: round draft pick who was a two sport athlete in

714
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: high school back in twenty, fourteen and he had a

715
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: really fun run With DOUBLE A jacksonville in twenty, eighteen

716
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: where he only made it up To DOUBLE a after

717
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 1: four plus years in the, organization and then he went

718
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: up and you couldn't get him. Out he hit over

719
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: four hundred at DOUBLE a with A ops over one,

720
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: thousand playing middle infield. Positions for, them.

721
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 6: It's too oh swing and this is driven going in

722
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 6: the right center. Field this will fall for a, base

723
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 6: roll to the warning, track bounce up against the. Wall

724
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 6: two the ball scores. Here Toms harris said he'll. Score

725
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 6: this game is tied at. Four just In twine drives

726
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 6: in two with a double and it's a four to four,

727
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 6: game bottom of the.

728
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: Ten and he suffered a wrist injury at the end

729
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: of that and then he came back in twenty nineteen

730
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: and the magic was. Gone maybe it was kind of

731
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: fluky when you dug into the stats a little. Bit

732
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,959
Speaker 1: overall his my early, career he simply just wasn't wasn't

733
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: performing all that well on either side of the. Ball

734
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: someone that they hoped would be a shortstop and never

735
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: really demonstrated the ability to stick of that. Position but

736
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: a very interesting guy who's only twenty four years old

737
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: because he was drafted out high. School so even though

738
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: he'd been in the organization and, forever he still has

739
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: some professional baseball left in. Him if, not and it's

740
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: worth noting, THAT i, mean some of the names THAT

741
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: i figured out in this process were ones that came

742
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: onto my radar because even before we knew they were

743
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: released by The, marlins they signed to play indie ball

744
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: with The American. Association the first baseball league that's going

745
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: to come back in THE us this year is The

746
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: American association on a fourth Of july, weekends just a

747
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: few days from, now and some of the guys that

748
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: already signed with them are Include Dustin, Beggs Mackenzie, mills McKenzie,

749
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: mills the left hander who they acquired in The Justin boor,

750
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: trade AND. J. C, milan who's the utility. Infielder all

751
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: those guys are going to be on the field in

752
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: The American.

753
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: Association, NO i THINK i think he kind of nailed

754
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: nailed it in terms of the guys that you, know

755
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 2: kind of jump, off, like, okay now it's a bit.

756
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: SURPRISING i think the biggest one Was. Mills he didn't

757
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: perform great last, year so to, say but like you,

758
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: said he was traded For Justin bohr and at one

759
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 2: point or another he was on The marlins top thirty

760
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: list that had some you, know some talent and some

761
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: projectability to be kind, of you, know maybe a relief

762
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: arm down the. Line that one definitely took me by.

763
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: Surprise Milton smith took me by surprise coming off the

764
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: great year he had last. Year also felt really bad

765
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: for my boy Pac man On twitter about that that's his,

766
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: Boy so that one kind of. Hurt BUT I, i you,

767
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: know The marlins got to do what they gotta do

768
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: at this, point and the reality of the situation is

769
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: that The marlin the minor leagues are gonna be, shrinking

770
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: and it's a tough financial time to run a baseball

771
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: team right. Now and this is just the business side of.

772
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 3: It.

773
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: Uh it braced my heart to see these guys get,

774
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: cut and, uh you, know it's just sadly the reality

775
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 2: of this. Year and you're gonna lose a lot of

776
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: guys that have, talent that have fun stories from their

777
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: time in this. Organization and it. Sucks and that's the

778
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: reality of this. Year out of it is watching a

779
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: lot of you, know the guys that we watched and hoped,

780
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: for you, know half their time in The marlins organization

781
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: come to an. End And i'm not, crying even THOUGH

782
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: i sound LIKE i might be but just kind of touchy.

783
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: Subject But i'm not that emotional about, it but it's

784
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: definitely a you, know it's a tough thing to see.

785
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: Happen, yeah, well we should shout out a lot of

786
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: organizations that have done pretty good work in supporting minor,

787
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 1: leaguers both during this and also before this for, years

788
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: understanding that these, guys even when they are playing minor league,

789
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: ball affiliated ball like sorely underpays for guys that most

790
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: of whom have some sort of potential and of course

791
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: had performed well during their amateur careers and serve to

792
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: be invested, in like like a decent living wage and

793
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: put into better working. Conditions And Major league baseball've emphasized

794
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: that they drastically want to reshape the minor leagues in

795
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: order to improve pay on an individual, basis in order

796
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 1: to upgrade facilities from the affiliates that remain in minor league.

797
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: Baseball but, there's, yeah there's a lot of work to

798
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: do in order to make it a really reasonable developmental

799
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: system and in a place that like athletes want to

800
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: want to. Explore when when players ARE i should, say

801
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: when athletes are playing multiple sports growing up and trying

802
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: to decide what sport they want to go. To it's

803
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,959
Speaker 1: one of the big disincentives for baseball is the entire

804
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: minor league baseball system as we know, it and all

805
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: the time that players have to put in while they're development,

806
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: developing and it would be all worth it if the

807
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: kind of if the living conditions on the way up

808
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: through the system were more. Tolerable and so that's like

809
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: a big change that's going to have to come to

810
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: baseball if it's going to continue being a sport that

811
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: attracts the best possible talent from all corners of the

812
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: country and all corners of the. World but it is

813
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: a little refreshing that some of those players immediately hooked

814
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 1: on with indie ball. Teams right before we start, Recording,

815
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: ethan you are the one that tipped me off to

816
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: this report From Baseball america about how even all the

817
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: players that didn't get, released the ones that are still

818
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: playing within major league organizations have now this flexibility to

819
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: latch on with independent teams without actually without actually becoming free.

820
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: Agents they able to remain part Of Major League baseball

821
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: while still playing at these indie leagues and still getting

822
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: paid for. It there's not all that many leagues THAT

823
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: i think are operating under these. CONDITIONS i, mean just

824
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: Like Major League, baseball there's all sorts of obstacles that

825
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: they have to account for when it comes to keeping

826
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: everybody safe IN covid nineteen in order to try to

827
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: run games that are profitable for them in order to

828
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: make a sound business decision on their end as. Well

829
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: but that's going to Be it's gonna be pretty, wild isn't,

830
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: it to be checking in with like independent leagues and

831
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: seeing potentially some recognizable prospects actually popping up in all

832
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: corners of the, country just in order to get some

833
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: reps in and hopefully improve their stock for other teams

834
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 1: that might be looking at them moving.

835
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 4: Forward, YEAH i, MEAN i think that a little bit

836
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: of it is kind OF mlb outsourcing the what do

837
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 4: we do with minor leaguers problem to other. Sources but

838
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 4: at the end of the, day the result for the

839
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 4: players is a big. Positive it gives them an opportunity

840
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 4: to go get consistent playing time somewhere to supplement their.

841
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 4: Income obviously those are both sorely needed right, now SO

842
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 4: i think that's. Good and if this is a, route

843
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 4: then a lot of players choose to take it could

844
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 4: create some pretty cool spectator environments. TOO i, mean you.

845
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 3: Could potentially be getting almost like An Arizona Fall league

846
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: at The sphere at an independent, ballpark not that they

847
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: would necessarily be spectators.

848
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 4: There i'm not sure how that'll all, go BUT i

849
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 4: know that a lot of the independent leagues do stream,

850
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 4: online so it could potentially be a pretty interesting kind

851
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 4: of secondary viewing experience this summer if it ends up

852
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 4: coming to.

853
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: Past, YEAH i think it would be, good if you,

854
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: know especially for a team like The, marlins who you,

855
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: know will suffer so much from not having guys have

856
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: a minor league season. Too let guys just go play.

857
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: Baseball and especially if this is going to become a,

858
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 2: trend then they'll start actually facing legitimate competition and you

859
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: can take it as not a wasted. Year you, know

860
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: you can see them actually get some good time to

861
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: develop and get some good abs that they might be

862
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: getting on an normal. Basis SO i think if you

863
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: see you, know a kind.

864
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: Of like.

865
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: Migration of all these minor leaguers to one, lead then

866
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: that could be really. Good and, yeah Like spencer, said

867
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 2: it could be end up being like An Arizona Fall,

868
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: league and that could be awesome because The Arizona Fall

869
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: league is exciting and is big for guys, Development AND

870
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: i think that's the biggest worry right now is how

871
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: much development will be losing because of the.

872
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: Year there were rumors From Baseball america not that long

873
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: ago about the potential of having An Arizona Fall league

874
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: still conducted this year and expanding it and having it

875
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: both based In arizona and In. Florida but as we all,

876
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: know unfortunately those two states in particular have had a

877
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: lot of trouble containing the, pandemic with their cases rising a.

878
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: Lot and if it's enough trouble just to make sure

879
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: everybody is safe as possible in these major, cities it's

880
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: going to be even more difficult to handle a larger

881
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: number of players in all these spring facilities in those two.

882
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 4: States SO.

883
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 1: I GUESS i haven't heard an update on that report

884
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: in a week or. Two not sure how feasible it,

885
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: is but if they were somehow able to coordinate, that

886
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: that would be a huge, win of, course to be

887
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: able to have those guys play in a major league sanctions.

888
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: System but just finishing up on a positive, note there

889
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: IS i guess there wasn't really much doubt in the first,

890
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: place but it does seem that according To Jim callus

891
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: OF Mlb, pipeline he just confirms kind of what we've

892
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: expected that all these pending draft pick signings are going to,

893
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: happen that to his, knowledge there's not really anybody that

894
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: will have any difficulty signing with the teams that drafted

895
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: them this past. Year The. MARLINS i bring that up

896
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: just because The marlins at this moment are one of

897
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: maybe two or three teams in the entire league that

898
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: haven't actually finalized any of their content with any of

899
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: their six draft. Picks and we've been seeing these reports

900
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: like trickle in a couple every single day about the

901
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: specifics of the signing bonuses that these players, received and they've.

902
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: Had we believe that they've had deals in place to

903
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: some extent with all these players for a couple of weeks,

904
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: now but it will be it's gonna be a nice

905
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: sigh of relief to actually see them In marlin's uniforms

906
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: or In, italy you, know the spring training uniforms and

907
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: have those deals. Done, spencer of, course you paid culture

908
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: attention to this draft process than just about anybody do

909
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: you think there's in terms of right Behind, meyer which

910
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: of the five Other marlins draft picks do you think

911
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: has a chance of being added to the player pool

912
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: before the end of the, Year because we, know with

913
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: the exception Of Dax, fulton the other four are all

914
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: four year college. Pitchers you had a lot of experience

915
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: playing in both during THE ncaa and for a couple

916
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: of them also pitching In Cape cod as. Well, which

917
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: outside Of Max, meyer who we've already talked so much,

918
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: about which one of those guys is in your, estimation

919
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: would be closest to being Major league ready or just

920
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: further further along in their, development and that it might

921
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: make sense at some point to sneak them into that.

922
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: Playpool, YEAH i, MEAN i think it's probably got to

923
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 4: Be Jake ader for a couple of. REASONS i think

924
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 4: you could also make a case for. Mccamberley but With,

925
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 4: ader you're getting a guy who has been under the

926
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 4: spotlight for years. Now he was a high profile prep,

927
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 4: prospect did the whole showcase, circuit, played you, know on

928
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 4: the biggest stages that the prep level has to. Offer

929
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 4: he went on To, vanderbilt played at the biggest college

930
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 4: program in the, country played in The College World, series

931
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 4: so on and so. Forth SO i don't think that

932
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 4: there's really any stage that's going to be too big

933
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 4: for a guy like, that even the major, leagues and

934
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 4: from and on the field, PERSPECTIVE i think that it's

935
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 4: most likely that The marlins will try to develop him

936
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 4: as a, starter AND i think that's. Worthwhile but he

937
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 4: did pitch pretty extensively out of the bullpen For. Vanderbilt

938
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 4: he has experience in that, role AND i think that

939
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 4: if you wanted to fast track him as a, reliever

940
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 4: he wouldn't take too long to get to the big.

941
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 4: WEEKS i don't think that he has quite the massive

942
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 4: upside of Like Max meyer out of the. BULLPEN i

943
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 4: think he'd be more of like a seventh eighth dinning

944
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 4: guy than a ninth inning. Guy BUT i don't think

945
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 4: it would be a huge stretch to put him in

946
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 4: the pool with some of the other names that we're on.

947
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: There, yeah it's going to be exciting to follow along the.

948
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: Way there are a number of conditions that can lead

949
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: The marlins to making changes in the player, pool and

950
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: we'll be of course covering all those On fish stripes

951
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: Dot com and everything on the prospect side will still

952
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: be doing here as these players report to the. Pool

953
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: i'll be sure to coordinate some interviews finally with some

954
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: of these, prospects get to know them a little better

955
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: and how they handled this extremely unusual, situation and how

956
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: they're staying, ready and how they still feel about their

957
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: long term career. Goals and it's just going to be

958
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: very refreshing to finally get actual baseball activities started all over,

959
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: again so we'll be covering that. Here you may have

960
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: noticed you the listener That ian dropped off the call

961
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: about fifty minutes. Ago he's doing, okay just some technical,

962
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: issues and he'll be back with, Us i'm sure on

963
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 1: our upcoming episodes as, Well so With Spencer, morris With Ethan.

964
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: Bodowski I'm Eli, sussman and we'll speak to you again

965
00:51:41,280 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: real soon here on earning their. Stripes Go fish