1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: I'm Brian Curtis and I'm Doug Krisner. Here are the 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: stories we're following today. 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 3: Congressional leaders have agreed on a spending deal. We get 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 3: more from Bloomberg's Dan Schwartzman. Dan, that is correct, Brian. 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 4: A deal has been announced on a top line spending 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 4: level for the current fiscal year. The agreement lessening the 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 4: likelihood of a partial government shutdown, which would occur on 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 4: January twentieth. Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson and Democratic Senate 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 4: Majority Leader Chuck Schumer negotiated the package, which now heads 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 4: to the appropriations committees in both chambers to negotiate detailed 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 4: spending bills that now have an overall spending limit. The 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 4: cap for the twelve annual appropriations bills is one point 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 4: five to nine trillion dollars. The country is facing two 15 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 4: government shutdown deadlines. One is January nineteenth and the other 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 4: February second. President Biden welcoming the news of a deal 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 4: being agreed to, saying it provides a pathway to full 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 4: year funding bills. Snowstorms hit the northeast portion of the country, 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 4: leaving more than a foot of snow in New York' 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 4: Hudson Valley, while Blank getting Boston and New England with 21 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 4: heavy snow. Areas west of New York City in New 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: Jersey got strong accumulation as well. City mostly just got 23 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 4: hit by some rain. A second storm is now moving 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 4: across the Western States, winter storm warnings and advisories being 25 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 4: issued from Arizona all the way to Illinois their blizzard 26 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 4: warnings in Colorado and New Mexico. That storm is expected 27 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 4: to dump nine inches of snow west of Chicago starting 28 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 4: Monday night, with parts of New York and New Jersey 29 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 4: getting in an additional one to three inches on top 30 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 4: of what came down today. The winter storms, also, by 31 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 4: the way, have just retavock on the transportation industry, six 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: hundred and ninety two flights being canceled across the country. Boston, Newark, Chicago, 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 4: and Seattle were hit particularly hard. That was according to 34 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 4: airline tracking company flight Aware. Amtrak also having to cancel 35 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 4: some trains to Boston as well as across the Midwest. 36 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 4: Secretary of State Anthony Blinken continuing his World Win tour 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 4: of the Middle East with a stop off in Doha 38 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 4: Cutter on Sunday, Blinken warning that the Israel Hamas conflict 39 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: could easily spiral into a regional conflict. 40 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 5: This is not just a regional issue, it's a matter 41 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 5: of global concern, and that's certainly the case when it 42 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 5: comes to the Hoofi attacks on freedom of navigation in 43 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 5: one of the world's busiest trade corridors, the Red Sea. 44 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 4: Blanken, speaking from Cutter, which maintains ties with Hamas and 45 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: has been key and hostage negotiations which have freed more 46 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 4: than one hundred Israeli so far. Blinken earlier in the 47 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 4: day meeting with Jordan's King Abdullah the Second, as well 48 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 4: as the Foreign Minister I'man Safadi. The Secretary of State 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: has already made stopovers in Turkey and Greece, and he 50 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 4: is planning to visit the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Israel, the 51 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: West Bank and Egypt. Some good news in London, Mayor 52 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 4: Sadik Khan announcing earlier this afternoon that a planned strike 53 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 4: in the subway system had been called off. The London Tube, 54 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 4: as it's known, has more than two hundred and seventy 55 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: stations covering around two hundred and fifty miles and accommodates 56 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 4: around four million rides per day. The National Union of Rail, 57 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 4: Maritime and Transport Workers were planning to strike over dispute 58 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 4: over working conditions and pay right was called off due 59 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 4: to positive discussions on both sides. Global News twenty four 60 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 4: hours a day and whenever you want it with Bloomberg News. 61 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: Now. 62 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 4: I'm Dan Schwartzman, and this is Bloomberg. 63 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: Dan, Thanks very much. Five and a half minutes here 64 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: past the hour. I'm Brian Curtis, along with Doug Krisner 65 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: and Paul Allen will join us a little bit later. 66 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: Let's take a look at some of the top business 67 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: stories of the hour. 68 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: Now. 69 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: Airlines around the globe are pulling there Boeing seven thirty 70 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: seven Max nines from service. It follows the Federal Aviation 71 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: Administration's call to temporarily ground all one hundred and seventy 72 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: one planes. The FAA order comes after a section of 73 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: the main body on a brand new Alaska Airlines jet 74 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: blew out mid flight. Bloomberg's Mary Schwangenstein says that Boeing 75 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: is pushing to get these planes inspected and back in 76 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: operations soon. 77 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 6: They want the operators of certain of these Max nine 78 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 6: to take them out of service. Do the inspections, which 79 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 6: don't take all that long. They take a number of 80 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 6: hours to do them, and to do those inspections before 81 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 6: they fly them again if they fall within certain inspection timeframes, 82 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 6: and so Alaska said they've already done quite a few 83 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 6: of their aircraft. You know, it's not a good look 84 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 6: for any aircraft operator or manufacturer. Rather, when you have 85 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 6: to stop and take the planes out of service to 86 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 6: look for some particular defect that could, you know, be 87 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 6: a major problem of this aircraft had been higher. 88 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: In the air Bloomberg's Mary Schwoangenstein. The grounding is a 89 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: major setback for Boeing. The company has grappled with manufacturing 90 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: defects and costly repairs in recent years. Most recently, the 91 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: FAA said that it is monitoring some inspections of Boeing 92 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 3: airplanes to look for a possible loose bolt in the 93 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 3: rudder control system. And coming up in a few moments, 94 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: we'll be chatting with Julie Johnson, who is Bloomberg Senior 95 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: aerospace reporter on the latest from Boeing. 96 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: Doug Elon Musk's drug use is reportedly causing worry among 97 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: executives and board members at the company's led by Musk. 98 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: The story from Bloomberg's Denise Pellegrini. 99 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 7: Wall Street Journal reporting Musk has used LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, 100 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 7: and psychedelic mushrooms, often at private parties, and people close 101 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 7: to the Tesla and SpaceX ceo tell the journal his 102 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 7: drug use is ongoing. In particular, he's consuming ketamine. Musk 103 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 7: said in August he had a prescription to use a 104 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 7: drug as an antidepressant, and after Musk puffed on a 105 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 7: blunt containing marijuana on Joe Rogan's podcast in twenty eighteen, 106 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 7: the Pentagon reviewed the federal security clearance tied to Musk's roll, 107 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 7: a CEO of Space Exploration Technologies, which is certified to 108 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 7: launch military spy satellites. Musk didn't respond to a request 109 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 7: for comment from Bloomberg News to this story, but Alex Spiro, 110 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 7: an attorney for the billionaire, told the journal his client 111 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 7: is regularly and randomly drug tested at SpaceX. It has 112 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 7: never failed a test. Denise Pellegrini Bloomberg Radio. 113 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: In the latest US jobs report, we saw gains in 114 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: jobs and wage increases, and both exceeded expectations, But as 115 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: Doug pointed out early, a number of caveats. We'll get 116 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 3: to that a bit later. US payrolls rose by two 117 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: hundred and sixteen thousand. Randy Krasner is professor of economics 118 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business. He 119 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: tells us what these numbers might mean to FED policymakers. 120 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 8: I think the FED focuses a lot on wage growth, 121 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 8: and we've seen wage growth above expectations. I think it's 122 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 8: really clear that the FED is going to be waiting 123 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 8: a while before it starts cutting rates because the labor 124 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 8: market is still quite strong, the wage growth is still 125 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 8: quite strong, and just the key thing that then feed 126 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 8: into services as well as manufacturing inflation. 127 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,119 Speaker 1: Randy Krasner is there. 128 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: In the coming week, the FED will have some key 129 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: economic data to analyze, be getting a big report on 130 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 3: consumer prices on Thursday and then producer prices on Friday. 131 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: China has sanctioned five US defense firms in response to 132 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: deals for arm sales to Taiwan. We have more from 133 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: Bloomberg sivon Men in Hong Kong. 134 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 9: Orn Ministries says the sanctions are a result of what 135 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 9: it calls gravely wrong actions taken by the US. The 136 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 9: companies affected include BAE Systems, Land and Armament Alliance Tech Systems, 137 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 9: Operation Aero Vironment via SAT and data link solutions. The 138 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 9: decision is seen as the latest retaliation to US military 139 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 9: sales to Taiwan. The latest arms deal amounted to about 140 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 9: three hundred million dollars. China responded immediately by intensifying military 141 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 9: training around the Taiwan Strait. These new sanctions freeze the 142 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 9: five companies. Properties in China and entities there are banned 143 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 9: from any transactions with those firms. In Hong Kong, I'm 144 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 9: von Mann Bloomberg Radio. 145 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia will cut crude prices in all regions, including 146 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: its main Asia market. Bloomberg's Juan Wong has more on that. 147 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 10: The cuts will begin next ones amit persistent weakness in 148 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 10: the market cuts and supply by Opec Plus are another 149 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 10: part of the story. The cuts were aimed at prevent 150 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 10: hending a build up of oil and storage. Saudi Arabia 151 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 10: is taking on the bulk of the burden. It has 152 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 10: set voluntary cuts of two million barrels a day through 153 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 10: the first quarters, hoped that that will offset otherwise strong 154 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 10: global supply that is hurting prices that may push the 155 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 10: OPEC Plus group to extend output cuts into this year 156 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 10: in Hong Kong. Joined Wong Bloomberg Radio. 157 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. I'm Brian Curtis along with 158 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: Paul Allen in Sydney. Well. 159 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: Our top story. 160 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: Boeing this morning, the FAA ordering the grounding of some 161 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy one planes in the States, and 162 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: global airlines have taken many of the seven thirty seven 163 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: Max nine. 164 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: Jets out of service as well. 165 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: Joining us now is Julie Johnson, Bloomberg Senior Aerospace reporter 166 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: with more on this. So I guess the basic question is, Julie, 167 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,119 Speaker 3: what does this say about Boeing's manufacturing standards and controls? 168 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 11: Well, you know, this just has to be very dismaying 169 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 11: for people at Boeing. The company. You know, the company 170 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 11: once again is under immense scrutiny and and you know, 171 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 11: just just a blizzard of really bad headlines and just 172 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 11: a you know a lot of reputational damage to them 173 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 11: from this incident. In fact, that's probably going to be 174 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 11: what lingers more so than the grounding, But we'll see 175 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 11: on that. But anyway, Boeing's put it just put a 176 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 11: huge effort into improving quality and safety. They they had 177 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 11: definitely seemed to be making progress, and that was one 178 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 11: reason why you know, their shares shot up more than 179 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 11: forty percent through Friday from the end of October. You know, 180 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 11: Wall Street was starting to buy the story. And then 181 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 11: and then you have another very scary incident involving a 182 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 11: Max that points to a manufacturing flaw most likely, and 183 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 11: it's it's just deja vu all over again. 184 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 12: Yeah, you say most likely a manufacturing floor. I mean, 185 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 12: the investigation is still under way, but why is it 186 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 12: that we seem to be leaning that way at the moment. 187 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 11: Well, this design has been used by Boeing across the 188 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 11: previous generation or I guess more selectively, but it was 189 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 11: in a previous generation of Max. The design's been in 190 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 11: place since around two thousand and six without any incident, 191 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 11: and it was so so this you know, analysts are 192 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 11: thinking this is probably a one off incident, and it's interesting. 193 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 11: I don't know if we want to get into an 194 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 11: explanation of the door plug feature on the Max nine, 195 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 11: which is now being scrutinized by the FAA, and you know, 196 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 11: it's at the brunt of these inspections but the Alaska 197 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 11: Airline jet had two of these. They're cutouts for emergency 198 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 11: exits if airlines want to put them in there. Alaska 199 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 11: used what's called a plug in the fuselage to cover 200 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 11: the exits that didn't need them for the configuration that 201 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 11: it flies. So anyway, there are two of these behind 202 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 11: the wing. One blew out, the other was fine and 203 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 11: Friday night, and so it's more than likely you know, 204 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 11: a bolt failure or or you know, who knows, but 205 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 11: it's looking like a manufacturing issue. 206 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: Only two US airlines operate this seven thirty seven model. 207 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it's still said to be a popular plane, 208 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: and we mentioned that other global airlines are affected. You 209 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 3: wonder if it's only two US airlines, and since it 210 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: was only this one incident, whether there is the strong 211 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: possibility that this passes quickly, that they. 212 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: Get a handle on this. Are you are you seeing 213 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: and hearing much about that? 214 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 11: Well, you know, again it's early days and and so 215 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 11: you know, we'll see what the NTSB and the FAA 216 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 11: find and Boeing's part of this as well as they 217 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 11: do as they do their inspection. 218 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: I mean, it's probably not a fair comparison, but we 219 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: see we see car recalls all the time, Yet the 220 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: standards for air flight and for driving need to be 221 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: very different. 222 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: Maybe you can just flesh that out a little bit. 223 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 11: Well, yeah, I mean, if you're at altitude, you know, 224 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 11: if you're climbing in an airplane, it's just a very 225 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:53,599 Speaker 11: unforgiving environment if something fails. And so I think the 226 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 11: standards for safety are just so much higher for you know, 227 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 11: for aircraft than automobiles for example, just for that very reason. Well, 228 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 11: just back to your earlier you know, this is the 229 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 11: Max nine is the lowest selling of the family, so 230 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 11: from that perspective, and it's January when US airlines have 231 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 11: generally fairly light flying schedules, So this is I think 232 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 11: those are the two reasons why people are thinking this 233 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 11: probably is going to be relatively minor in terms of 234 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 11: impact to the industry and financial impact, but the reputational 235 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 11: hit for Boeing just really is bad. 236 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 12: Yeah, And there have been a number of other smaller 237 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 12: manufacturing issues as well that we've heard about. Nothing as 238 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 12: dramatic as a door plug blowing out in mid air, 239 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 12: but misaligned hals, a loose rud a bolt. What is 240 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 12: going on at Boeing? Is there an underlying calls to 241 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 12: what's to the sorts of manufacturing defics. 242 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, absolutely, you know, and we could I could 243 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 11: spend the next hour talking about this because it's fascinating 244 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 11: and it's really complicated, and both Boeing and Airbus have 245 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 11: really struggled to recover from from COVID and when they 246 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 11: had Boeing stopped work on it seven thirty seven for 247 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 11: a few months, and while Airbus slowed its rate down, 248 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 11: Boeing was also dealing with the max grounding at the 249 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 11: same time. But I'm recovering has just been incredibly difficult, 250 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 11: and a lot of it has to do with for Boeing, 251 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 11: especially really skilled people who just you know, when the 252 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 11: buyouts came in twenty twenty, they just said I've had enough, 253 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 11: no more, no no more, you know, turbulence and job 254 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 11: and security. I'm I'm going to retire, and I'm so 255 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 11: Replacing that generation of workers, especially in aerospace, has been 256 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 11: a problem. 257 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: Julie, thanks so much for joining us. 258 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: We know that Chinese regulators are taking a close look 259 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: at this too. We had an emergency meeting that was 260 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: called that sources are telling us about no direct action yet, 261 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: but we'll be watching that Julie Johnson has been with us. 262 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Senior Aerospace Report. 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