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Speaker 1: Welcome to This Country Life. I'm your host, Brent Reeves

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Speaker 1: from coon hunting to trot lining and just general country living.

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Speaker 1: I want you to stay a while as I share

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Speaker 1: my experiences in life lessons. This Country Life is presented

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Speaker 1: by Case Knives on Meat Eaters Podcast Network, bringing you

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Speaker 1: the best outdoor podcast the airwaves have to offer. All right, friends,

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Speaker 1: grab a chair or drop that tailgate. I've got some

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Speaker 1: stories to share working at meat Eater. People often asking

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Speaker 1: I love telling the story of how I wound up

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Speaker 1: working at meat Eater and what it's like. It's been

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Speaker 1: a long journey that started many moons ago, and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to tell you all about it. But first I'm

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Speaker 1: going to tell you a story. I was contacted by

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Speaker 1: a regional hunting show from South Carolina back around the

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Speaker 1: turn of the sentry, which used to mean a long

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Speaker 1: time ago, and I guess it's starting to again. But anyway.

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Speaker 1: The host of the show was originally from Arkansas. He

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Speaker 1: had a cousin he grew up with that was still

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Speaker 1: him and a cameraman on a film duck hunt. The

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Speaker 1: cousin worked with me at the Sheriff's office in the Eldorata, Arkansas,

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Speaker 1: and made the introduction. He and his cameraman came out

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Speaker 1: for three days of hunting in the flooded green timber.

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Speaker 1: We had a great hunt. I made friends with both

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Speaker 1: of them, but I was mostly interested in what was

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Speaker 1: I saved up and bought a Sony PD one seventy

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Speaker 1: camquarder that recorded onto many DV tapes, and at the

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Speaker 1: time it was the industry standard for outdoor video. I

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Speaker 1: remember the day the ups man dropped it off at

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Speaker 1: the house. It was like a new shotgun, but better.

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Speaker 1: I would be able to shoot everything all the time,

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Speaker 1: and good, honest to goodness quality green timber duck hunting

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Speaker 1: footage was scarce in those days. Now, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that there wasn't any. There just wasn't a lot that

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Speaker 1: I thought was very good. There were shots I had

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Speaker 1: and show the world what real duck hunting footage looked like.

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Speaker 1: I bought a tripod and the fluid had to mount

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Speaker 1: I had a Pelican case I custom fit for the

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Speaker 1: It was my baby, and I treated it like one.

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Speaker 1: Dust was one thing, but water was a whole other

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Speaker 1: set of problems. Those cameras would shut down in heavy

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Speaker 1: damp environments. The circuit boards just couldn't handle the exposure

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Speaker 1: I eventually started duking it out because the longer the

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Speaker 1: them wasn't the one taking the equivalent of a Craigslist truck.

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Speaker 1: As my friend Nick Gilliland rates everything above a certain

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Speaker 1: how that happened. I get asked all the time on

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Speaker 1: my family. Some of you, I'm sure it'd have heard

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Speaker 1: a job. Well. When that happened, he had professional cinematographers

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Speaker 1: what it's like working here. Now. What I didn't mention

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Speaker 1: But it's not the ones you regularly see and here

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Speaker 1: ideas for our content all on our own and occasionally

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Speaker 1: my weekly podcast content is recorded here in my home

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Speaker 1: and edited in Bozeman by Riva Hanson. Then she sends

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