1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Driving the Great Episode four seventy four. 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: This episode of What Driving the Grid is presented to 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: you by boost Mobile demands. Good afternoon in Los Angeles. 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: How are you? Big, big week for you? Yeah, beautiful afternoon. 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Moving into a new spot. How's that going? How's the process? 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: How are you? 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: It's going good? Just box by box. I'm just waiting 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: to get the bed and mattress in there and stuff 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: so we can actually start living in there. But my 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: sofa inside of my apartment is it's an ordeal. 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: So oh getting that sofa out of your apartment? Yes, yeah, 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a tough one. Well, good luck with that. 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: I would say, new apartment, you know, new kind of 14 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: phase in life all of that. Maybe new basketball team 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: to root for, since your Celtics seem to be wildly incompetent. 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: Maybe to the page entirely. Okay, So we'll get to 17 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,639 Speaker 1: the puzzling jail and Brown trade in just a moment. 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: Before that, I went also on the show That Will 19 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: the US men's national team game from yesterday, A bunch 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: of World Cups stars thoughts the Lakers trying to recreate 21 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: the Minneapolis Lakers at least in team photo and more 22 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: so all that coming up, but first straight to voicemail 23 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: brought to you by Boost Mobile. The Liberty Beat, the 24 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: Aces and the Commissioner's Cup, Summer League's gonna use the 25 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: one free throw rule and the Swift Kelsey wedding is 26 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: allegedly at Madison Square Garden tomorrow. 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Demon's this was not going 37 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: to be first in the rundown. The US men's national 38 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: team was, but I wanted it first in the rundown. 39 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown no longer a Celtic. Tell everybody the details 40 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: and your thoughts and then I'll get into it. 41 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: So, yeah, we shifted off Jalen Brown for Paul George 42 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: to first and two seconds. Oh look man, I'm not 43 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: and two. 44 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: Swaps and you got two pick swaps as well, so 45 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: that's something positive as well. But yes, but go ahead. 46 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 2: So everybody seems to be against this. I'm not as 47 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: against it as everybody else is. I don't think it's incompetence. 48 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: I think that Jalen Brown needed to be off the 49 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: team by this year. Come next year, anyways, I get 50 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: like what else were we gonna get? Giannis is no 51 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: longer available, and like, either way, you're not going into 52 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: the season with Jalen Brown next year. I do think 53 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: that it's interesting that they sent him to Philly, the 54 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 2: team that just knocked us out. Also, you know their 55 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: main guy. He's been seen talking mess about on Twitch, 56 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: so I wonder if that was there was any tacticalness 57 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 2: to that. But yeah, he wants to be the guy. 58 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: But now it's weird because he's going to seventy six 59 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: ers where he also will probably not be the guy. 60 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: So no, I mean it's no. I mean, I'm so 61 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot here. We'll get to the Philly side 62 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: and the Jalen Brown side in a bit. But I 63 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: want to start with the Celtics piece of it, because 64 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: I said, and I had been adamant that I thought, 65 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: once you offer Jalen Brown and a Jana's trade then 66 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: and he already, you know, had what I considered a 67 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: frosting relationship, even though he says otherwise with the franchise 68 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: that you have crossed kind of the rubicon and you've 69 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: got to trade him that you're not gonna keep. You know, 70 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: they offered him for Anthony Davis, they had offered him 71 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: for Kevin Durant. They now offer him for Johannis. You 72 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: just gotta at some point a player, especially as prideful 73 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: as Jalen, is gonna say enough enough, and you never 74 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: offer for Tatum. You only offer me and that I 75 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: thought they would need to make a move, and I 76 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: still feel that, like I so in that regard, I 77 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,119 Speaker 1: understand them trading Jalen Brown. I thought they were going 78 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: to trade Jalen Brown. The shock of this is the 79 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: multi layered, multifold shock of that this is what you 80 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: got for him, that when you felt this was the 81 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: best offer available for him, you didn't simply say, well, 82 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: it's July first. Even if we feel he can't be 83 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: on the roster on October fifteenth, let's pause, wait, see 84 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: what other dominoes fall. Because here's what I know about Philly. 85 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: Philly was not going to say take it or leave. 86 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: At Boston, this is your one time opportunity to switch 87 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: out twenty nine year old Jalen Brown for thirty six 88 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: year old Paul George. That offer was going to be there, 89 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: And it is stunning how low Jalen Brown's value is 90 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: across the league because Jalen Brown went for less than 91 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard shit, he went for less than Walker Kessler 92 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: went for in the same transaction cycle. And the real 93 00:05:53,279 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: to me, this is the incompetence piece demons, I believe 94 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: it is. It was incumbent on the Celtics to know, Okay, 95 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: if we don't get Yannis, what other options are out there? 96 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: Like if we're gonna hold the line on not trading 97 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: Hugo or baylor Shireman, if that's our red line, then 98 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: what's our number two and three options? And in my opinion, 99 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: they very clearly had not done their due diligence on that, 100 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: because if you are this close to moving Jaalen Brown 101 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: and to first round picks that are going out, and 102 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: the return is Yannis and the tax on that is 103 00:06:55,240 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: twenty year old, eleven minutes, three point per game, Hugo Gonzalez, 104 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: and the silver medal is instead of Giannis, you get 105 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: Paul George, who if you don't like Jalen Brown's contract, 106 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: you can't like Paul George's contract. They make the same 107 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: money Paul George's contract as a whole one year shorter. Now, yes, 108 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: instead of two first round picks going out, two first 109 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: round picks are coming in. But the delta between Giannie's 110 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: value and Paul George's value is so massive to not recognize. 111 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: If we if we don't pull the trigger on trading 112 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: for Giannis, we are going to effectively beginning one first 113 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: round pick and one swap for Jalen Brown. Because the 114 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: league had told us, or the reporting was, I should 115 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: say that the price for Philly just to trade away 116 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: Paul George was going to be a first round pick. 117 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: The tax on Paul George's contract was going to be 118 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: a first round pick. So it is truly stunning to 119 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: me Delanza that they it's not. So it is stunning 120 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:33,359 Speaker 1: to me. Boston held the line on Hugo or Shireman 121 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: when they were willing to give up the two first 122 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: round picks, they were willing to give up Jalen Brown. 123 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: But nope, too far if we have to include Hugo 124 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: or Shireman in the deal. And didn't realize, but if 125 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: we don't make this deal, we are gonna get fifteen 126 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: cents on the dollar for Jalen Brown. That part is 127 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: stunning to me. It is also stunning to me that 128 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: none of the twenty seven other teams other than Philly, Milwaukee, Boston, 129 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: the twenty seven other teams like we can beat that deal. Yeah, 130 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: we can. We would like to employ Jalen Brown, even 131 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: if we don't think he's, you know, as good as 132 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: last season suggests. We still think he's a really good player. Like, 133 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: here's a question. Remember when the Celtics wanted Kevin Durant 134 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: and offered Jalen Brown a few years ago. Why not 135 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: do that ship again? Why not say, hey, Houston, true 136 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: you need well. I mean, I think that might be 137 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: a little unfair to both of them. I don't know. 138 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do not exactly locker room elevators, not well, 139 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: not in those locker rooms. 140 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: But not like you know the I think Jalen it 141 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: had done something that made his relationship and some of 142 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: his teammates less than great. Durant I think had you know, 143 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: obviously Durant in Houston, that thing got toxic. But I 144 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: don't know that that would be the case if they swapped. 145 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: And if you're Houston Eudoka's coach Jalen Brown, you need 146 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: a go to scoring option, but a guy you can 147 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: still defend. He's more on the timeline of the other guys. 148 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: And if you're the Celtics, all right, great, Uh, Durant 149 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: doesn't have to lead. Durant could just go get a 150 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: bucket like that, that trade would have been more interesting. 151 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: There are so many moves, like I understand. Paul George 152 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: played well in the playoff series against the Celtics. 153 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: Say it again, Yeah, no, because he didn't really do 154 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: anything in the second round, but the team as a wold. 155 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, he played well in that seven game series against 156 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: the Celtics. But Paul George games played since he left 157 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City forty eight, fifty four, thirty one, fifty six, 158 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: seventy four solid and in the last two years forty 159 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: one and thirty seven. But he is not he the 160 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: last two seasons he has averaged forty games per season 161 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: seventeen points per game. When he was in Philadelphia, that 162 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: he and this idea. I get that. Well, now the 163 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: Celtics have more flexibility, now they have these assets to 164 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: trade for another guy. I understand all of that. I 165 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: just I am legitimately stunned. Even if I wasn't as 166 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: high on Jalen Brown as some people were, I still 167 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: thought he was pretty unequivocally a top twenty guy in 168 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: the league who just had a you know, top ten 169 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: season of everyone in the league. The fact that basically 170 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: any team that could fit the salary could have him 171 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: and every team said no, thanks, is baffling to me. 172 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: And there is I thought there had been a lot 173 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: of overstating, you know, oh, this is how much the 174 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: analytics hate Jalen Brown. But evidently that was not overstated. 175 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: Evidently a ton of teams say, Jalen Brown on that 176 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: contract is not a valuable player. And I I can't 177 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: believe that Boston didn't know that, because if that that's 178 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: the case, then they were about to get Yannis in 179 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: a heist. The centerpiece of their Yannis trade, who was 180 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: a guy that most of the league doesn't want. And 181 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: to go from that to thirty six year old Paul 182 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: George is That's what I think is incompetence. Listen, I 183 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: think Brad Stevens has done a good job. But this 184 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: is a very, very precarious situation the Celtics have now 185 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: found themselves in. All right, I know you have some 186 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: follow ups here before we get to Philly. 187 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they added Mitch Robinson and Mike Connolly, Like, 188 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 2: do you think that they're going to be able to 189 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 2: compete next year? I think that the squad overall is 190 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: still pretty nice. 191 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would be stunned if they're a 192 00:13:52,400 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: top flight Eastern Conference contender because here's yeah, because here's why. 193 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: I know they won fifty six games last year without Tatum, 194 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: but I when I picked them to win the title, 195 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: the idea behind it was that adding bringing Tatum back 196 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: into the fold, you now all of a sudden elevate 197 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: a level. And so I think, because of Missoula and 198 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: because of the math ball they play, maybe they can 199 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: still be a good regular season team. But I do 200 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: not think it is at all realistic that this team 201 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: next year. And I really like Tatum, and maybe he'll 202 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: prove me wrong that, barring another move, that they can 203 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: compete for a championship like they are in a similar 204 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: boat to the team that they were last year had 205 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: they not brought Tatum, hadn't come back. Now, Tatum's in 206 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: my opinion, better than Jalen Brown, but that team was 207 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: not going to be able to win three, let alone 208 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: four playoff rounds. So no, I think this is a 209 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: pretty big step back for them as far as their 210 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: ability to compete for a championship. Because here's the other 211 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: thing they and I was you know, wrong about them 212 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: last year obviously, but after winning the title and then 213 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, losing Christaps, losing Drew Holliday, the year they 214 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: were trying to find their title, they got their clocks 215 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: cleaned by the Knicks in the playoffs, and last year 216 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: they got they blew a three to one lead to 217 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: Philly in the playoffs, and Brad Stevens trolls after the 218 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: year that they weren't that close, that they didn't do 219 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: well against the best teams in basketball, and now they are, 220 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: to me objectively, a less talented team than they were, 221 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, when they were whole last season. All right, 222 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: what else. I know we have more on, you know, 223 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: just stuff, So go ahead. 224 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: Sean said that Brown never requested a trade or asked out, 225 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: Oh why wouldn't they just bring him back? Why don't 226 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: you think that was possible? 227 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I think what you were saying off the 228 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: top that it had this thing had run its course, 229 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: and I think there were just enough unnecessary. This is 230 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: my read on the situation, shots at Tatum that it 231 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: was not tenable. Yeah, and you agree with me there, 232 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah. 233 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: I mean, he just like says a lot of stuff 234 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: where it just makes you question, like, you know, the. 235 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: Thing that went under the radar for a lot of people, 236 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: I think was what everybody focused on after Game seven 237 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: and or all the times Jalen Brown talking about this 238 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: was my favorite season and then doubling down on that 239 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: and the twitch stream stuff all that that that was 240 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: not what I had eyes wide open. Oh man, that 241 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: could cause some damage. The comment that he made wasn't 242 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: that I thought was the most damaging was not on 243 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: the twitch stream. It was right after game seven, I believe, 244 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: at the press conference when he was asked about Tatum 245 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: not playing, and he said, well, yeah, I mean it's 246 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: really tough when you find out thirty minutes before the 247 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: game that JT's not going when that was just not true. 248 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: The team found out early that afternoon, late morning, like 249 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: six seven hours before the game that Tatum was not 250 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 1: going to be able to go for Game seven, and 251 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: it was so it was inaccurate and seemed so unfair 252 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: to Tatum that my you know, Antenna went up of 253 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: what's going on. 254 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: With this right? Like that's like that's coming at the 255 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: team as a whole. You didn't know that Tatum was 256 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: going to be playing thirty minutes before the game. 257 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: I don't need I don't know his I don't know 258 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: his rationale for that, or you know, be as charitable 259 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: as possible that he just in the heat of the 260 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: moment like he got confused or I don't know, but 261 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: that that struck me as what, first of all, even 262 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: if that's true, I don't know that you need to 263 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: say it, but I knew it wasn't true. Yeah, And 264 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: so it it it implied that, you know, Tatum kind 265 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: of left him out to dry. 266 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 267 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: And so that, combined with you know, the other comments 268 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 1: he said about we finally got to who he had 269 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: been all year in this game. There was just a 270 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: lot of what's going on here, So I did not 271 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: think bringing him back was tenable. But if you're if 272 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: you're trying to buy it, I'll use Demonse's example. If 273 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: Demonse's down the road on renting a new apartment and 274 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: as it gets to least signing day, they're like, oh, yeah, 275 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: by the way, we forgot to tell you parkings and 276 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: extra one hundred dollars a month. And you're and you're 277 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: you're like, that's outrageous. You told me it was included. 278 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: Not doing it, They're like, well, sorry, it is. Before 279 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: you decide that's a deal breaker, even if you think 280 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: it's you know, attacks are outrageous. You need to know, 281 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: all right, if this is a deal breaker, I'm not 282 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: going to be like homeless, right, I have another place 283 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: I can live, and I don't. I think the Celtic 284 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: it's very odd because the Celtics' own internal analytics, Wendy 285 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: told us, said Derek White was better than Jalen Brown 286 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: last year. So the Celtics' own internal analytics didn't love 287 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown. They had one team in Milwaukee that seemed 288 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: to like him, and with Giannis on the other end, 289 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: of it, and they played hardball with them to the 290 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: tune of getting back a contract that's almost identical to 291 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown's, except one year shorter for a player seven 292 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: years older and way more injury prone. I just I 293 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: don't I don't get that piece of it at all. 294 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: And I will see if they make another major move. 295 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: But and I've been you know, I believed in ball 296 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: last year, but this is this is a weird one 297 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: for me. All Right, let's talk a little Philly piece 298 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: of it. 299 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Philly signed Anthony Simon's and Dean Wade. Are you 300 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: taking this team seriously next year? 301 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: Not really? I mean, I like it's with here's the thing. 302 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: They're in such a weird spot with embiid and it's hard. 303 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: It's like you don't want to rely on him, but 304 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: when he's there, he has these moments of like, man, 305 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: that's still one of the best offensive bigs in the league, 306 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: but you don't know if he's gonna be reliable. I 307 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: I did you know four of their five starters Maxy Edgecombe. 308 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: And this is one of the reasons Demons probably that 309 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: they were fine with trading away those unprotected picks and swaps, 310 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: not because of the Embi portion of it. But because 311 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: they're like, all right, we have Maxi and Edgecomb and 312 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: Jail and Brown. They're all young enough that our floor 313 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: is high, so like we're not gonna bottom out. And 314 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: so Maxie, Edgecomb, Jail and Brown call it question market 315 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: the four because they also you know, uh, Quinton Grimes 316 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: signed with the Lakers this week. Embiid at the five. 317 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: That's that's an interesting roster. Now there is a little 318 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: smoke around are they gonna go after lebron I imagine 319 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: they would love to add lebron I and that would 320 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, fully round out the team, and that team 321 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily need Embid to be able to compete at 322 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: a super high level if you added lebron. I don't 323 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: think it's likely that he goes there. My bigger question 324 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: is this about Philly. Does Philly decide let's kick the 325 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: tires on what if we were just able to get 326 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: off Paul George's contract. How desperate is Golden State in 327 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: trying to sweeten the pot for lebron And we can 328 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: trade one for one, Jimmy Butler for Joel Embiid Butler 329 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: on an expiring contract who has played in Philly, but 330 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: he's obviously injured. Embiid with three years left on a 331 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: brutal contract, but as we said, you know has shown 332 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: these moments of brilliance. And if the Warriors were to 333 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: sell Lebron on, Anthony Davis was who we were talking about, 334 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: as you know, the injury prone MVP level big man 335 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: that we can bring in the Wizards won't play ball. 336 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: What do we think about a move where we won't 337 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: have to include any draft picks, We maybe keep some 338 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: flexibility and we trade Jimmy Butler to Philly for Joel Embiid, 339 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: and Philly, you know, throws a damn tick or take parade, 340 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: because process be damned, they can get off that contract. 341 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: I no one else has mentioned that. I think it's 342 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: just worth a as Wilds would say, one small take 343 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: chip on the roulette table of could you just do 344 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: a one for one Jimmy Butler's expiring deal for Embiid's 345 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: awful deal and hope you get lightning in a bottle 346 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: for one healthy postseason run, and you really are then 347 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: recreating the Team USA thing. Embiid was on that team too, 348 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: with Stephen Lebron. Aside from that, I think Philly is 349 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: now just pivoting to the Maxi era and it's Maxie 350 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: and Jalen Brown. And that's the other tricky thing here, 351 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: Tom say, one of the reasons Jalen Brown wanted out 352 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: was to have his own team. I don't know that 353 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: he has that. 354 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: And then think, oh, edge com Yeah, yeah, it's it's 355 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 2: just kind of weird. How is that gonna mesh and 356 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: the dominant dudes? 357 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think on the floor it can work, But 358 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: I do think, like, whose team is it? It's Tyree's 359 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: Maxie's team of course, and then when it be plays, 360 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: he probably feels like it's his team. So that stuff 361 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: is all a little odd or maybe more maybe more 362 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: than a little odd. Uh all right, do you before 363 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: we get to the soccer, is there anything else you 364 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: want to do on here? 365 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 2: Uh? 366 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: You personally on your thoughts on it or your you 367 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: know what we should do this? How will you remember 368 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: as a Celtic fan the Tatum Brown era. 369 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 2: Confusing? I think that I really I do appreciate Jayleen 370 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: Brown for everything and he's given to the team. I 371 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 2: do think that. I just think it just got a 372 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 2: little weird. And yeah, no, I've got no like malice 373 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 2: in my heart? Did you see it? 374 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: No? He had an interesting tweet though, where I'm just 375 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: gonna read you his statement. Uh, it's it's like, you know, 376 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: it's a picture, and it's a picture of a city skyline. 377 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: The skyline's in green. I don't know the Philly skyline 378 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: versus the Boston skyline. It's one of the two cities skylines. 379 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: And this is what he writes. First and foremost, thank 380 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: you to the most high even in the midst of adversity. 381 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: I'm here with gratitude. He then writes, I'm still processing 382 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: how this all went down. I'm excited and disappointed at 383 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: the same time. I earned my respect from this city. 384 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: I never asked for shortcuts or special treatment. I simply 385 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: showed up every day, put my head down, and accepted 386 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: every challenge. The relationships I built here, the battles we 387 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 1: fought together, the championship we brought to this city, and 388 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: the connection I shared with the fans all carry with me. 389 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: Saying goodbye isn't easy when you've invested your heart into something. 390 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm big on. Respect and action speak louder than words 391 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: to the people of Boston. Thank you to the community 392 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: I built here. I love you, And to the shift. 393 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: Does I think that's his career? I don't know who 394 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: that is. We are locked in for life with a 395 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: little lightning bolt. 396 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 2: Yea. 397 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: As one chapter begins, as one chapter closes, another begins, 398 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: and then what does he have there? Then it says 399 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: there's the number forty one. I don't know what that 400 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: is either say no, no, no, it's definitely no, no no, it's 401 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: not a player Jersey. I'm excited for what's ahead and 402 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: grateful for the opportunity to join Philadelphia. Every city has 403 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: its own identity, its own passion, and its own expectation. 404 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 1: I respect that and I'm looking forward to earning that 405 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: respect the only way I know how, through the work Philly. 406 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: Throw the ball up, let's get it. So that is 407 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: a very nice statement to Boston fans. 408 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 2: And again it will see organization. 409 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: Well, I don't listen. If he feels the organization undervalued him, 410 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: that's fine. He doesn't need to thank the organization. I 411 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: it's it's weird not to say anything about your former teammates. 412 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 413 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: Like, and now again, maybe he's gonna do for all, 414 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: I know, he's gonna do a whole Instagram like pictorial 415 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: thing like these days, guys gonna have multiple It's not 416 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: just like one thing in the newspaper. And so I 417 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: don't know, but it's that is a unique statement from 418 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: a unique guy, because like when he says, I'm still 419 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: processing how this all went down, Well, like, bro, I 420 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: got an idea how it went down. You kept going 421 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: on twitch, making shit harder for everybody, and they finally 422 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: were like, all right, We're done with this. Like I 423 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: think that's how this went down. 424 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: I I the a team that's like not that removed 425 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: from a championship, and like, I just think that the 426 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: vibes are a little weird like that. It's just like, wait, 427 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: what is going on around here? But but yeah, I mean. 428 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: And it's uh and so that is. But what a 429 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: resounding success of a trade for the Sixers, even if 430 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't think next year they're gonna be top line contenders. 431 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: Like just a great, great, successful trade for the Sixers. 432 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: And I just want to be on the record here 433 00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: on this. I do not think Jalen Brown is one 434 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: I think he had one of the ten best seasons 435 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: in the league. I don't think he's one of the 436 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: ten best players in the league. He's never been a 437 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: particularly difficult omission from Club Superstar for me. Okay, I 438 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: think he is firmly, obviously in the top twenty five 439 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: players in the league, and almost assuredly in the top 440 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: twenty players in the league. That's where I land on 441 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown. The analytics that say, you know, the what 442 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: is it? It's the dunks and threes analytic that said 443 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: duncsan three's the website that said he's the eighty seventh 444 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: best player in basketball. The folks that are slavishly dedicated 445 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: to the on off splits that say he's a net negative. 446 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: I think those are idiotic and while those can inform 447 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: your opinion about a player, they should not define anyone's 448 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:09,239 Speaker 1: opinion about a player. What is so ironic about this 449 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: demons is Jalen spent. You know, a good portion of 450 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: his twitch stream stuff has been him, for lack of 451 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: a better term, going after the media and taking issue with, 452 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: you know, different aspects of the media. And the one 453 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: thing this trade saga has revealed is the media, which 454 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: votes on the awards and where he has been very 455 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: highly decorated, values him far more than the league does. 456 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: The folks in the media look at Jalen Brown as 457 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: an a lister, and the thirty teams across the NBA 458 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: do not, And that is a fascinating development. 459 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: Something is going on, we don't is there? Something is? 460 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 2: What's that about? 461 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, listen, I think he doesn't have an 462 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: analytically friendly game, but there is absolutely something to be 463 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 1: said for taking on the challenge of guarding the other 464 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: team's best player. A lot, the availability, the reliability, the 465 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: fact that does do everyone else's analytics on the Celtics 466 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: look better because of the workload that he has taken on, 467 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: like all of that stuff, like, and so I just 468 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: I I find it there have been I never thought 469 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown was going to fall in like in the 470 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: category of what's a good example historically? Okay, here's one. 471 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: Monteellis was a guy that put up good counting stats, 472 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, the beginning analytics fifteen years ago did not 473 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: like his game at all. Okay, and it was a 474 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: dichotomy of you know, I like counting stats versus the 475 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: deeper stats. Here was the difference. I don't think Monteellis's 476 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: eye test was that good either. I don't think you 477 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: need an algorithm to be like that. Guy's not a 478 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: winning player. I have put Trey Young in a similar boat, 479 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: like I don't. He has great counting stats and I 480 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: don't need to look at the analytics say he's not 481 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: a winning player. What's unique about Jalen Brown is he's 482 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: fucking won more than any player in the league. Basically 483 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: since he's been in the league. They lived in the 484 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: conference finals, they had great regular seasons. There was never 485 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: a thought. I never would have thought that the analytics 486 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: numbers would be like Jalen Brown, not that good. But 487 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: that's where we're at. It's really fascinating. All right. We'll 488 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: get to the US men's national team in a second. 489 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, 490 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: hard Rock Bet, Florida sportsbook. The world's biggest soccer tournament 491 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: is here. 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On the game 533 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: or the card? 534 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: All right, so let's just start with the game or 535 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: with the card. Pardon me? So I am stunned at 536 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: how many people think. Because it's written in the rules 537 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 1: that the US can appeal this that the US shouldn't 538 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: try to appeal this. Folks, it's FIFA and it's the 539 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: World Cup and things are a little fuzzy, like I 540 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys have seen, like you know, 541 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: historically how host sites get awarded, or the fact that 542 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: Christiano Ronaldo was supposed to be suspended for the first 543 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: two games of the World Cup and they were like, ah, nah, 544 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: let's make it a probation. This is historically speaking, this 545 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: is an entity that, uh, you can bully a bit 546 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: or you can figure out a way to get your 547 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: way with. And so many folks in the media that 548 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: have been like, well, no, you can't appeal this, Sure 549 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: you can't, and you can just we're the host country. 550 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: It's a BS red card and we want our guy 551 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: to play at least see if in Fontino and FIFA 552 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: are open to that. It seems like he's got a 553 00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: real tight relationship with the president, and the president's got 554 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: plenty of time. He's designing ballrooms and doing reflecting polls, 555 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: got a state fair. CEV gives them a little rings like, hey, 556 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: you remember me. He gave me the FIFA Peace Prize 557 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: because I wanted the Nobel One and didn't get one. 558 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 1: You think you can put your finger on the scale 559 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: and could flow in the game, biggest game in US 560 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: soccer history. So that's first of all, like I'm not 561 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: ready to give up yet, the flow balligan could play. 562 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: And here's the other thing they did. Kind of screw 563 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: us not because that play can never be a red card. 564 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: Soccer is interesting in that they don't They don't always 565 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: care about intent if it's a dangerous play. But what 566 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 1: they're not supposed to use the VAR, the video assisted 567 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 1: review in slow motion to determine the harshness if you 568 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: will have a foul. So I will reed from to 569 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: you from the exact VAR you know from the rule 570 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: book on what is and isn't allowed. The VAR can 571 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: check the footage in normal speed and or in slow motion, 572 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: but in general, slow motion replay should only be used 573 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: for facts, for example, position of offense or of or 574 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: player point of contact for physical physical offenses pardon me, 575 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: and handball ball out of play including goal no goal. 576 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: Normal speed should be used for the intensity of an 577 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: offense or to decide if it was a handball offense. 578 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: He got a red card because in my opinion and 579 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: what it really really looked like because the referee watched 580 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: that foul in slow motion, and in slow motion it 581 00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: looked awful. I think that's mist application of VAR, and 582 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: I think we have grounds not to appeal on it 583 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: was a bad redguard, but to appeal on procedural grounds 584 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: to use VAR wrong. Either way, I'd like him to 585 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,959 Speaker 1: at least try and see if they're like, okay, fine, 586 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: he canna play. I'm just saying it's it's it's it's 587 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: not off the board that maybe he could play. So 588 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: that's first of all. Second of all, the reason I 589 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: hated the penalty was it's not even so much about 590 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 1: so like Messy early in the tournament, the first game, 591 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: I think he was trying to steal the ball from 592 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: an opponent and accidentally cleaned him in the back of 593 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 1: his leg, scraped his studs down the back of his 594 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 1: leg into his ankle, and got no penalty. Okay, that 595 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: was way the way I see it, worse than what 596 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: Flow did because Messi, while obviously was not trying to 597 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: do that, was looking down, was trying to make a 598 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: play on the ball and screwed up. And that's where 599 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: intent they say doesn't matter for a red card. Hey, man, 600 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: you made a dangerous play. You were trying to get 601 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: the ball, but you got the guy's leg and that 602 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: could have been a red for MESSI. Flow was running 603 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: alongside the guy and looking up and they both just 604 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,479 Speaker 1: stepped in the same place. That So what Flow did 605 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: to me was not dangerous. It was unfortunate. So that 606 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: and it wasn't even called a yellow on the field. 607 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: So for all those reasons, I hated it, and I 608 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: really hate that he has to miss the biggest game 609 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: in US men's national team history, or I guess that's 610 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: probably not accurate. The second biggest game in US men's 611 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: national team history. The biggest game was the quarterfinal in 612 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and two when we could have made the Semis. 613 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: So I hate that. I'll tell you what I loved 614 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: about that game though, the way Flow played before that, 615 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 1: because he's our best player, flat I and we'll get 616 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: to Polistic in a bit, but Flow Baalagin's the best player. 617 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna be without our best player. For the game 618 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: against Belgium. I loved how he played, and I thought 619 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: Malie Tillman's set piece really it was like you were 620 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: rooting for a European power. It was like, okay, a 621 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: set piece from right here, they can score and we score, 622 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: and the fact that we were able to do what 623 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: we did with ten men, and then the added bonus demands. 624 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: Have you heard demons any of Pochettino the US manager's interviews, 625 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 1: Like if you heard him talk? 626 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 2: I have. It's in the back of my head, though, 627 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 2: is he's got some flair. 628 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: He just has a thick Argentinian accent, and he is Listen, 629 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: he speaks English far better than I speak any second language, 630 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: but he is he is not what I would call 631 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: effortlessly fluent, you know what I mean? So like so 632 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: he The reason I'm saying any of that is to 633 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,720 Speaker 1: paint the picture of people haven't heard him talk thick 634 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: Argentinian accent, you know, not a hundred fluent speaker. The 635 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 1: video of him after the game singing Country Roads from 636 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: John Denver and smiling just like my favorite thing of 637 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 1: the tournament, Like it's just so charming, and the way 638 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: this team loves each other and the way the I 639 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: think Fox has done an amazing job after these games 640 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: of the announcers layout and we just get these like these, 641 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, kind of dusk sunsetting moments on these West 642 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,320 Speaker 1: Coast stadiums of a delirious crowd, singing along the players, 643 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: taking and hugging. I love it so much. It's been 644 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: so good. I mean, I've enjoyed it so much. And 645 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: now we approach a game against Belgium. Belgium, first of all, 646 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: was not the better team yesterday against Senegal. I'm glad 647 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: we're playing Belgium rather than playing Senegal. Senegal has played 648 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: better in this tournament. Belgium was very fortunate yesterday. We 649 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: can beat Belgium and hard Rock Bet has a slight 650 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: favorites against Belgium even without Baligan. 651 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 2: How much pressure is on Polisic. 652 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: Well, there we go. So this is the moment. Man 653 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: Christian Ballistic was on the US men's national team as 654 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: a kid at it in twenty eighteen that failed to qualify. 655 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 1: He was then on the team in twenty twenty two that, 656 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: going into the final game of group the group stage, 657 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:06,280 Speaker 1: needed a win against Iran to qualify. He, to his credit, 658 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: scored a goal. Scored the goal at the tail end 659 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 1: with ten minutes left in the first half to put 660 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: us up one nothing on the goal he got banged 661 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: into by the keeper and then at halftime couldn't go anymore. 662 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 1: They had to sub him out. They held on for 663 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: the win though, thank god. And then neither he nor 664 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: really anybody played that well in our knockout round game 665 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: against the Netherlands, and in this tournament he's played sparingly. 666 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: He's one of the only stars in the entire tournament 667 00:45:53,080 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: that has not scored. If there was a argument for 668 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: we talked to this on First Things First today, who 669 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 1: has been the best player for the US men's national 670 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 1: team this tournament. While I would argue flow Baligan, Dax 671 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 1: was saying he thinks they're seven guys, you could make 672 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: an argument for not one of the seven. Christian polistic 673 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 1: You're supposed to be our best guy. You're supposed to 674 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: be the best player in this country's history. We have 675 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: a home World Cup Monday. Your striker's not going to 676 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 1: be there. You have to deliver. It's the biggest game 677 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 1: of your life. And we have now demands graduated past 678 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: by winning the round of thirty two, this tournament cannot 679 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: be a failure. It is some level of success. Getting 680 00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 1: to the round of sixteen was always mandatory, and we 681 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: got there. But we have been there a bunch of 682 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: times in our history. We've only won this game once 683 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: you add to it that we have a pretty decent 684 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: draw in who we're playing in the round of thirty 685 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: to or the round of sixteen, like as far as 686 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: the caliber of the opponent, a Paraguay from our group 687 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 1: has France coming Canada. You know, another host nation in 688 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:33,760 Speaker 1: the round of sixteen is playing Morocco. Norway gets Brazil. 689 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 1: Mexico another host country more on that game in a 690 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: moment gets England. So getting Belgium is about as good 691 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: of a draw. You know. The winner of Portugal Croatia 692 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: later tonight is gonna take on Spain, which just won 693 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: three nothing against Austria. Okay, so getting Belgium is fortunate. 694 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:03,280 Speaker 1: We're at home. We've played great. If they lose this game, 695 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: this World Cup was a success, but disappointing. If they 696 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 1: win this game, it's hands down, unequivocally the greatest World 697 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: Cup in team USA men's national team history. And then 698 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 1: we wait and see, you know, are we playing an 699 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,359 Speaker 1: absolute monster in Spain or a team that I think 700 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: we could hang with in Portugal or Croatia After only 701 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: having one shutout in its previous thirteen games three games ago, 702 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: we now have two shutouts in our last three games. 703 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 1: We have a world class manager, Our starting players play 704 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: all over the best leagues in Europe. You're better than Belgium. 705 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 1: You have played better than Belgium in this tournament. Belgium 706 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: in this tournament needed a win in its final group 707 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: stage game just to qualify. They drew against Egypt, they 708 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: drew against Iran, they beat New Zealand to qualify, and 709 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 1: yesterday they just pulled it out of the fire against Senegal. 710 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 1: You should win this game, and Christian Polistics gotta be great. 711 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 1: And I know it seems like a lot to ask, 712 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 1: but Polistics also gotta have the fitness to give us 713 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 1: the full ninety. The first game he played forty five 714 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: and got banged up. The second game he missed. The 715 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 1: third game, he gave us spot duty this game, even 716 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: though we were down a man. He had to be 717 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: subbed out in the eighty something minute for fresh legs 718 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 1: out there. Fine, no problem. We need the full ninety 719 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:07,280 Speaker 1: and you've got to be great. I think they're going 720 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 1: to do it. I don't believe in Belgium, but man, 721 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: oh man, this is this is the moment, and I 722 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: really really hope that they that they seize it. 723 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 2: Uh, I know you have more winning the work would 724 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 2: win the winning the World Cup be a bigger deal 725 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 2: than the Miracle on Ice in your opinion. 726 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: So I wasn't alive for the Miracle on Ice, and 727 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: there obviously was you know, bigger maybe political implications there 728 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: because we're playing the Soviet Union, you know who during 729 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 1: the Cold War imagine. But it would certainly be a 730 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: tougher accomplishment. Is it's such a bigger field and everything. 731 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 1: You like the fact that the path is probably would 732 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: probably be after Belgium, you have to beat the number 733 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: two team in the world, Spain, and then you have 734 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,800 Speaker 1: to beat the number one team in the world France, 735 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 1: and then you have to beat either Brazil or Argentina 736 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: or I guess some people would say England. It would 737 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: just be remarkable. And what I'm here to say is 738 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: I have all along said I believe this US men's 739 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 1: national team can make the quarterfinals for the justice second 740 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 1: time in team history. They are one game from doing it. 741 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: They are tragically gonna have to try to do it 742 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,879 Speaker 1: without flow Balligan. I think they can. All right, let's 743 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: talk a little more World Cup stuff. 744 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 2: So England and Belgium both had late comebacks to advance. 745 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 2: England now headstats Techa to play Mexico and Belgium heads 746 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 2: to Seattle to play US. 747 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 1: Yes, so I want to talk about those, all those 748 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,279 Speaker 1: games and then also some of tonight's games. Uh so 749 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: we already Belgium got very I feel sick for Senegal. 750 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,879 Speaker 1: They just blew it. I mean, you're up to nothing 751 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: in the eighty second minute and you lose. It's just 752 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: an absolute, just gut wrenching loss. England credit to Harry 753 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 1: Kane for having a legendary twenty minutes in a game 754 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 1: that it looked like my guys d are both of 755 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,800 Speaker 1: the African nations that played yesterday just had their guts 756 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 1: ripped out. Dr Congo should have been up to nothing, 757 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 1: they were up one nothing and then Harry Kane scores 758 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,280 Speaker 1: on a header and then has one of the goals 759 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,240 Speaker 1: of the tournament that Terry here did just an amazing 760 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 1: job explaining how he did it for them to win. 761 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 1: So shout out to England with that said demands. I 762 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: think they are in for more than a dog fight 763 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 1: against Mexico. I believe Mexico is going to beat England. 764 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: So people don't fully recognize the advantage Mexico has at 765 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,240 Speaker 1: a Stadio Azteca. So first of all, it's one hundred 766 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 1: thousand rabid fans. It is such a wildly energized environment, 767 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,760 Speaker 1: so that helps their players. It's why they haven't lost 768 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 1: there in years. But the other thing is the altitude 769 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,759 Speaker 1: and the smog are so outrageous compared to everywhere else 770 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: they play. It's so much higher than Denver and to 771 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 1: mile high that you really like the fact that the 772 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 1: Mexican national team's players are used to it. Being used 773 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 1: to that altitude as an athlete and playing a group 774 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 1: of athletes that are not I read today has the 775 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 1: impact as if your team did blood doping for your 776 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,280 Speaker 1: red blood cell counts and the other team didn't like you, 777 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 1: so you're basically no. Blood doping is what cyclists do 778 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 1: to the basically, it's it's like steroids. The the it's 779 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 1: again I don't know the science of it entirely. It's 780 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 1: either more red blood cell count or lower red blood 781 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: cell count, whatever it is. The point is the the 782 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 1: impact on athletes who aren't used to playing at this altitude, 783 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 1: what it drains from them. It's the same type of 784 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 1: delta that an athlete would gain from using performance enhancing 785 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 1: drugs just in the other direction. So there's that. And 786 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:55,839 Speaker 1: because of that, what England should want to do is 787 00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 1: have shown up in Mexico this morning st getting acclimated 788 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: to it. But here's the thing, this is a home 789 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 1: World Cup. Those fans are in a great way insane 790 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 1: and England knows if we show up today, we're not 791 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: going to get a good night's rest. And through the 792 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 1: the country will know where or where our hotel is. 793 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 1: They are going to be banging pots and pans and 794 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 1: singing and having a party outside of our hotel room 795 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: all night. Every night. The players will be anxious about 796 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,399 Speaker 1: any food they're served like that, like the. 797 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:44,280 Speaker 2: All it's the World Cup, like this is the well 798 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 2: the home. 799 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: Field of bands of the World Cup matters. So you 800 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 1: This is an eight pm Eastern time kickoff July fifth, 801 00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 1: in what will be it is definitionally the biggest game 802 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:06,920 Speaker 1: in Mexican soccer history. England has been super wobbly other 803 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 1: than Harry Kane and England's players come the second half 804 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 1: are going to be gasping for thin thin air. I 805 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 1: am here to tell you I love Mexico in this spot. 806 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 1: Love Mexico in this spot. I have had this game 807 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 1: circled for since the bracket came out. England win their group, 808 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 1: Mexico win their group. Since then, all Mexico has done 809 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 1: is look freaking awesome. Mexico in this tournament yet to 810 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 1: allow a goal, eight goals scored, zero goals allowed, beating 811 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 1: South Africa, Korea, Chechia, and Ecuador. England, on the other hand, 812 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 1: in this tournament, a little shakier Game one against Croatia, 813 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: tied at halftime, they end up winning four to two. 814 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:09,280 Speaker 1: Game two they draw with Ghana zero zero. Game three, 815 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 1: a game they need to win against Panama, a bad 816 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 1: Panama team, tied at halftime zero zero. They end up 817 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 1: winning two nothing. Game four, knockout round against Congo. Down 818 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 1: at halftime, England is yet. So Mexico hasn't let it 819 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: allowed a goal and England hasn't let it halftime once 820 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:39,439 Speaker 1: this tournament. So I love England. On July fifth, when 821 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: is that Saturday night or no, not Saturday night, Sunday night. Yeah, 822 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm all over it. Is that Sunday night. Yeah, that 823 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 1: is Sunday night, Holy Moly. And the US is yeah, 824 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 1: because the US is Monday night. Oh, I said I 825 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 1: love England. No, I don't love England in the spot 826 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 1: don't clip that out, guys, I said a whole thing 827 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 1: about why I love Mexico in this spot. Thank you, guys. Obviously, 828 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 1: the whole point of that rant was I love Mexico 829 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 1: in this spot. The no no, no, I the I got 830 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 1: the I was looking at the England schedule and I 831 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 1: said England, but no, I think Mexico just wins. And 832 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: speaking of upsets, if you're watching us live, you'll get to, 833 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, see if you want to roll with me 834 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: on hard rock, bet on this one. If not, you'll 835 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 1: be able to see if I'm right, I think Croatia 836 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 1: is going to beat Portugal. I think Croatia is going 837 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 1: to end Christiano Ronaldo in Portugal's pretty underwhelming tournament so far. 838 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 1: Croatia in this tournament again tied with England at halftime, 839 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 1: end up losing four to two. They beat Panama, they 840 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 1: beat Ghana, and they're an old team. Obviously, Luka Modrich 841 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 1: is not the same guy he once was. But Croatia, 842 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 1: this core group of guys has been to back to 843 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 1: back World Cup semifinals in twenty eighteen, they lost in 844 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:27,800 Speaker 1: the final to France. In twenty twenty two, they lost 845 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 1: in the semifinal. Was is that to France again? No 846 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 1: to Argentina. They lost because France played Morocco in the semifinal. I. Portugal, 847 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 1: on the other hand, has looked awesome against Uzbekistan and 848 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 1: decidedly mediocre in every other spot. They drew with Congo, 849 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 1: they drew with Colombia in a game I was at 850 00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 1: that Columbia thoroughly outplayed them. They have a The only 851 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,400 Speaker 1: guy on their team who has played all ninety of 852 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 1: every game is the oldest guy on the team. Uh, 853 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 1: my beloved, my, my beloved soccer expert, the great poker 854 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 1: player in sports. Better not Joe Barbero, who I've been 855 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 1: texting with and he's a big voice memo guy the 856 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 1: whole tournament. He I text him about that I was 857 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 1: going to see Portugal play Columbia because I was at 858 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 1: that game at hard Rock Stadium in Miami that I 859 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 1: was that I was going and he and he told 860 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 1: me he's said go all in on Columbia. Uh. And 861 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 1: I said why, I said, how come? And he wrote 862 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 1: back and again this much like Pochattino. I want you 863 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 1: to read this text in your head in a very 864 01:00:54,200 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: thick Argentinian accent um. But Natcho said, because quote, the 865 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 1: team they're playing has a forty one year old that's 866 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 1: a cry baby and should be in a wheelchair. That 867 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:11,040 Speaker 1: was his handicap. That was his handicapping of why for 868 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 1: you can't win? And so listen, I think Portugal is 869 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 1: gonna lose tonight. I think Croatia is gonna advance and 870 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be three straight years of real World Cup 871 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 1: runs for Portugal. If there's let me just give you 872 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 1: guys quick thoughts that the other oh Tomorrow's games obviously, 873 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it'd be one of the greatest stories in 874 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,040 Speaker 1: the history of the sport. If Cape Verde beat Messi 875 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 1: in Argentina, that's not gonna happen. I like, you know, 876 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 1: Argentina advances Columbia Ghana from Kansas City. I think it 877 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,960 Speaker 1: will be a good game. But I like Columbia and 878 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 1: Australia Egypt. I think the wrong team's favored. I think 879 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:59,160 Speaker 1: Egypt should be the favorite there. So those are the oh. 880 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: And there's one more game that I'm leaving out, is 881 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 1: it there's a oh, Switzerland Algeria late late tonight is 882 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 1: probably Switzerland's That's probably the play there. But oh but 883 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 1: there's We're not going to be on again until Tuesday, 884 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 1: so we should talk just a little bit about how 885 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 1: I see these Round of sixteen games going. I think 886 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 1: Morocco will beat Canada on the fourth of July. I 887 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 1: think France is going to probably put up another three 888 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 1: or four goals again in beating Paraguay on the fourth 889 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 1: of July. I think that Spain will beat Croatia on 890 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 1: Monday night. I think the U or Monday afternoon. I 891 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:47,520 Speaker 1: think the US will beat Belgium on Monday night. And 892 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:52,240 Speaker 1: then I had just told you I think Mexico beats England. 893 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 1: You guys know, I think Brazil is gonna beat Norway 894 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 1: in a game I might go to here in New 895 01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:03,800 Speaker 1: York and I take Argentina to advance. Oh, the other 896 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 1: games are Tuesday, will so once those are set, we'll 897 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 1: be able to talk to you US about them. But 898 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,919 Speaker 1: I would lean Argentina in Columbia advance. 899 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 2: The Cup x fourth of July. Man, the streets are 900 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 2: gonna be crazy. 901 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:22,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's gonna be US minsaster team 902 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 1: isn't playing on the fourth of July, which would have 903 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 1: been sick if they were. But yeah, I mean, and 904 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:30,920 Speaker 1: I just I love this tournament so much and I 905 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 1: want to in the when I am, when I'm at 906 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 1: a retirement age or a I can take, you know, 907 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:44,040 Speaker 1: summers off age. I've made an executive decision to manse 908 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,600 Speaker 1: hold on. In fact, let me go ahead and look 909 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 1: this up. 910 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:53,959 Speaker 2: The World Cup like the blue guy for the World. 911 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 1: By Oh yeah, that's a great day. I mean, it's 912 01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 1: just a great take. But so I here we go. 913 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 1: List of FIFA World Cup hosts. Okay, so next next 914 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:14,360 Speaker 1: year or next World Cup. Oh, it's another three World 915 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:19,880 Speaker 1: Cup hosts. It's Morocco, Portugal and Spain. The next one, 916 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 1: the one after that is in Saudi Arabia. Here's it's 917 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 1: not so much about going to the games, but I 918 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 1: would like for the rest of my life to spend 919 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 1: the five weeks of the World Cup in the same 920 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 1: time zone. I don't even need to be in the 921 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 1: same country, Like, I don't know if I want to. 922 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 1: We'll see what the world looks like in twenty thirty four, 923 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 1: but five weeks in Saudi Arabia, I'm not sure I'm 924 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 1: signing up for that, I was, but Morocco, Portugal and 925 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 1: Spain sound delightful. But regardless, My point is this just 926 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 1: having the games on all throughout the day every day 927 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 1: has been serendipitous. I just love it so very sam. 928 01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 1: It's just every day like today. The first game wasn't 929 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,680 Speaker 1: until three. I was super bummed. I was like, I 930 01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 1: was like, what am I gonna do with my afternoon? 931 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:21,600 Speaker 1: And so yeah, so I I I have missed this 932 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 1: because it's you know, I'm forty one, so ninety four 933 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:34,160 Speaker 1: the US hosts it, but I'm nine years old, Like 934 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, I watched, I was into it. I remember 935 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:41,160 Speaker 1: really upsetting my family because I was rooting for Brazil 936 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,240 Speaker 1: over Italy in the final. 937 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:45,560 Speaker 2: Eight. 938 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:52,440 Speaker 1: It's in France, so it's six hours later there, so 939 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 1: what does that mean? So the games are on like 940 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 1: early morning and then end of the day, but I 941 01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 1: remember watching it. But O two, it's it's in three 942 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 1: in Japan, so it's just like the U. The one 943 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,120 Speaker 1: time the US is played in a quarterfinal in the 944 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 1: World Cup was at two point thirty in the morning 945 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 1: US time on ESPN two, Like it just doesn't really happen. 946 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,640 Speaker 1: But twenty fourteen was Brazil. So that was again like 947 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 1: our time zones. We were living in Houston, Demons. I 948 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,960 Speaker 1: don't know if you remember, but I was locked in. 949 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 1: But twenty eighteen Russia time zone kills US. Twenty twenty 950 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 1: two cutter time zones again kind of kill us. Next 951 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:37,160 Speaker 1: World Cup if you are in America, Morocco, Portugal, Spain, 952 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 1: not that bad as far as it'll just be six 953 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 1: Everything will be about six hours earlier than it's been 954 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 1: for this tournament. So yes, you will have some games 955 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 1: that start six am, but a lot of games that 956 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:55,160 Speaker 1: start nine am, noon, three pm. You know in those windows. 957 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 1: That's sick too. I'm just so into it and this 958 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 1: is not in This isn't me being like a fox shill. 959 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm just I think it's been an unbelievable tournament. I also, 960 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 1: every time I hear Thierry Henri talk, I want to 961 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,000 Speaker 1: go to France, Like, man, this guy just is awesome. Uh. 962 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 1: I want to talk little Lakers in a second. But first, 963 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,360 Speaker 1: you ever notice everything keeps going up, Rints going up, 964 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,880 Speaker 1: streaming services going up. Your favorite burrito spots charging you 965 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 1: extra for sls. It's outrageous. Both boost Mobile, you and 966 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 1: your phone build on to play the will this go 967 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,919 Speaker 1: up soon? Game? Why because Boost Mobile is unlimited talk, 968 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,240 Speaker 1: text and data plan at a price that will never 969 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,200 Speaker 1: go up. In fact, it's the same price you'll pay 970 01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 1: for life. So switch now for unlimited wireless at a 971 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,360 Speaker 1: price that will never go up. Only at boost Mobile. 972 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,920 Speaker 1: After thirty gigs, customers may experience lower speeds. Customers will 973 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,840 Speaker 1: pay twenty five dollars per month as long as they 974 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:47,720 Speaker 1: remain active on the boost Unlimited plan. All right, Demanse, 975 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,439 Speaker 1: Let's jump down to the Lakers moves this week. 976 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,920 Speaker 2: This week, so yeah, after splitting up on Lebron, the 977 01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,440 Speaker 2: Lakers have made some moves. They got Walker Kessler, they 978 01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 2: signed Mamu, Collin Sex and my guy, Quinton Grimes. How 979 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,600 Speaker 2: strong of a team is this compared to the West? 980 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,360 Speaker 2: Do they think they're gonna work next year? 981 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 1: It's not a very strong team at all. They got worse. 982 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 1: And Marcus Smart was wildly important to him. He's gone. 983 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 1: Canard was a great pick up. He's gone. Ruie is 984 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,160 Speaker 1: not re signed yet and the second best player on 985 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 1: the team's gone. And listen, I didn't watch don't cut 986 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:35,320 Speaker 1: this out into a social clip. However, fair is fair 987 01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,439 Speaker 1: when steven A has said things that I disagreed with. 988 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 1: I've gone after him, so I want to just and 989 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,599 Speaker 1: I didn't see everything steven A said about the fact 990 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,639 Speaker 1: that the Lakers are going to be the first team 991 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 1: in forty years to have their best three players be 992 01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,879 Speaker 1: white dudes. But I'm telling you right now, while everyone's 993 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:03,240 Speaker 1: annihilating them for it, you all that occurred to all 994 01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:06,639 Speaker 1: of you as well. Everyone's like, how could he say this? 995 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,519 Speaker 1: It's like when when we everybody had a similar reaction 996 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,559 Speaker 1: when we saw the picture of the Lakers Big three 997 01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:20,080 Speaker 1: and it's Luca Austin and Walker Kessler sper right, No, 998 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:25,120 Speaker 1: he's European. It's not a mare. And this mom who 999 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,559 Speaker 1: shot a Pheeley guy, he's in European too. He looks 1000 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 1: like a John Wick villain. I understand all that. My 1001 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,599 Speaker 1: only point is people who want to go after Steve 1002 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,640 Speaker 1: and A are using this as an opportunity, pretending like 1003 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,200 Speaker 1: that hadn't even occurred to me. Yes it had. I'm 1004 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,040 Speaker 1: not saying it means they won't. I'm not going as 1005 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,680 Speaker 1: far as to say it means they're going to be 1006 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 1: bad or anything. I am saying we're he wasn't the 1007 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,680 Speaker 1: only person to be like, oh, well, when's the like 1008 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,679 Speaker 1: And I I even did when I saw the Walker 1009 01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:01,520 Speaker 1: Kessler deal my own thing in my where I was like, gosh, 1010 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:06,120 Speaker 1: what is the last time a team's three best guys 1011 01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 1: were white, dude? And I was like this, Even the 1012 01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 1: Celtics in the eighties with Bird and McHale, they always 1013 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 1: had perish like three of their four best at times, 1014 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:22,720 Speaker 1: whether it was Ange or Bill Walton. But it's it's 1015 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 1: been a while. So again, there's plenty of stuff you 1016 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,240 Speaker 1: want to go after Steven A. It's probably his fair game. 1017 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,120 Speaker 1: And again also I didn't watch the podcast listen to 1018 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,479 Speaker 1: the clip, but I saw the little synopsis of it, 1019 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,599 Speaker 1: and I was like, come on, He's not the only 1020 01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:43,639 Speaker 1: person that thought that. With that said, I am, they 1021 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,040 Speaker 1: are asking a lot of Luca. I love Luca. I 1022 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,280 Speaker 1: believe in Luca. We'll see if he can deliver. But 1023 01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:56,080 Speaker 1: it is to make to trade away all your future 1024 01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:03,759 Speaker 1: picks and to just be locked in to long term 1025 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 1: Walker Kessler, Austin Reeves and not like Colin Secon's not 1026 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,840 Speaker 1: to me a value additive NBA player. You know how 1027 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,559 Speaker 1: much I like Grimes, So that one is I do 1028 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,640 Speaker 1: think awesome, and Grimes will have a career year, you know, 1029 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:25,960 Speaker 1: getting you know what, Grimes played with Luca right Like, 1030 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,519 Speaker 1: I'm not tripping Grimes. Grimes was there when Luca was 1031 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,479 Speaker 1: there because they traded him the same year. Oh he 1032 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,519 Speaker 1: only played with Luca for a handful of games though, 1033 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,880 Speaker 1: because it was the year Luca got traded and Luca 1034 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:40,680 Speaker 1: was heard at the beginning of the year, so it 1035 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 1: was very temporary that he played with Luca. So I 1036 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 1: do like the Quinton Grimes edition, but I still think 1037 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,080 Speaker 1: that team's and Walker Kessler is you know, a nice, 1038 01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:55,040 Speaker 1: nice player, and they finally addressed the center position. But man, 1039 01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:59,120 Speaker 1: oh man, they paid a very steep price for Walker 1040 01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:03,000 Speaker 1: Kessler as a tricted free agent. Two picks and two swaps. Again, 1041 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 1: I know Luka Wan in the center. Well, I was 1042 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,680 Speaker 1: thinking they could have gotten Jail and Brown. I mean, 1043 01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 1: if you hear, if you want to go up two 1044 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,679 Speaker 1: picks and two swaps, but they didn't have the salary 1045 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,599 Speaker 1: to match. I understand they couldn't have realistically made that work. 1046 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,240 Speaker 1: But right now, and this breaks my heart for Luca, 1047 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:30,479 Speaker 1: but Western Conference contenders, where would I slot the Lakers? Well, 1048 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,200 Speaker 1: you know what this is interesting. Here's what I'll say 1049 01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,320 Speaker 1: in the Lakers defense, and this is what is so 1050 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:42,600 Speaker 1: unique about the maybe a bit of a changing of 1051 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 1: the guards. In the NBA. I think the West only 1052 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:56,080 Speaker 1: has two awesome teams. Okay, see in San Antonio, like, 1053 01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,599 Speaker 1: the Lakers won't be better than all of these teams, 1054 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 1: but you could make the case like they they could 1055 01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,479 Speaker 1: be better than Denver, they could be better than Houston, 1056 01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,519 Speaker 1: they could be better than Minnesota, they could be better 1057 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,080 Speaker 1: than you know, go down the list. None of those 1058 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:15,240 Speaker 1: teams rosters overwhelm you. Meanwhile, in the East right now, 1059 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,320 Speaker 1: like Boston loses Jail and Brown and we're like, oh man, well, 1060 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,200 Speaker 1: they're definitely not gonna be better than the next They're 1061 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,000 Speaker 1: not gonna be better than the Calves. If the Calves 1062 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 1: bring back bron we'll see what Detroit looks like, you know, 1063 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:30,120 Speaker 1: if they learned their lessons. Philly just added jail and Brown. 1064 01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 1: The you know the Raptors, added Kawhi. It's really it's yeah, 1065 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:46,960 Speaker 1: he added Giannis. Haliburton will be back. And so I listen, 1066 01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,880 Speaker 1: Luca gives you a high enough floor that the Lakers 1067 01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:55,559 Speaker 1: should avoid the play in, but I do. 1068 01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,000 Speaker 2: It's better than Luca's team that he's brought to the finals. 1069 01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,360 Speaker 2: I do I think you should actually, oh for the 1070 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:01,880 Speaker 2: faith in your guy. He could he could drag his 1071 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:02,880 Speaker 2: team to the finals a game. 1072 01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,120 Speaker 1: Uh. I don't know if it's better than that MAVs team. 1073 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 1: It depends on if Austin takes a leap, because what 1074 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,439 Speaker 1: the MAVs team had going for it was Kyrie is 1075 01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:18,519 Speaker 1: a legitimate playoff guy. Yea and Austin up to listen, 1076 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,840 Speaker 1: it's very small sample. Two years ago, he wasn't the 1077 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,880 Speaker 1: player he is yet now and this past year he 1078 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,519 Speaker 1: was injured and coming off the injury. But they need 1079 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,440 Speaker 1: if Austin can be regular season Austin in the playoffs 1080 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,559 Speaker 1: and if Walker Kessler, who I think played five games 1081 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:34,120 Speaker 1: last year? 1082 01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:36,479 Speaker 2: You know? 1083 01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,720 Speaker 1: Can am I right about that about Walker Kessler and 1084 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,840 Speaker 1: how many games he played? I could be wrong? Yeah, 1085 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:52,120 Speaker 1: five games? That yeah, I mean, but again he's seven too. 1086 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,400 Speaker 1: He's a fifteen to ten guy with good defense. So 1087 01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,760 Speaker 1: like I I'm not shading that move. It's just you 1088 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,640 Speaker 1: hate having to give up all those draft picks. I 1089 01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:06,480 Speaker 1: I think the Lakers are gonna miss Lebron and it 1090 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:10,320 Speaker 1: appears to me Demanse that exactly what I laid out 1091 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:11,759 Speaker 1: on Tuesday was accurate. 1092 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,559 Speaker 2: Yes, that's great, insane, Yes. 1093 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 1: Bron, what which part? 1094 01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,640 Speaker 2: Oh you were saying that Lebron would have signed for 1095 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,040 Speaker 2: the minimum, but he found it disrespectful that that the 1096 01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,680 Speaker 2: first number that the Lakers offered him, and like he 1097 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,640 Speaker 2: immediately signed for the VET minimum. We're saying that he 1098 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:31,040 Speaker 2: will sign for the vat minimum. 1099 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:36,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, that Lebron would rather play for the VET minimum 1100 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 1: somewhere else than play for fifteen dollars for the Lakers. Yeah, 1101 01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:46,800 Speaker 1: because the Lakers should have known better, like should have 1102 01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 1: known what his real value was. And so right now, 1103 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:55,400 Speaker 1: my leader in the clubhouse is Cleveland. Windhorse seems to 1104 01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:59,320 Speaker 1: be leaning and he knows as much as anybody more 1105 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:06,480 Speaker 1: Golden State. I I do think that dark Horse Shocking 1106 01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:13,800 Speaker 1: team X meaning I would put I think most people 1107 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,680 Speaker 1: have it like ninety eight percent. He goes to one 1108 01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:22,000 Speaker 1: of three places Cleveland, Golden State, Miami and then two 1109 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 1: percent dark Horse team. I would say eighty eight percent Cleveland, 1110 01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 1: Golden State, Miami and twelve percent Shocking dark Horse team. 1111 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,679 Speaker 1: But we'll see on Lebron. I don't think that answer 1112 01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 1: is coming anytime soon. I do have a promise if 1113 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:48,160 Speaker 1: it comes, we'll go emergency podcast live immediately. But I 1114 01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,559 Speaker 1: don't think it's coming before our next pod. I don't 1115 01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,559 Speaker 1: think it's coming anytime soon. I also just have to 1116 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,840 Speaker 1: be on the record it is not a big piece 1117 01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,439 Speaker 1: of the goat debate. It's not even a small piece 1118 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,040 Speaker 1: of the goat debate, but a tiny piece of the 1119 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:06,640 Speaker 1: goat debate in the same you know other extraneous factors 1120 01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:08,880 Speaker 1: that where Jordan gets a lot of credit for how 1121 01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:13,840 Speaker 1: popular his shoes are. One of the greatest moments in 1122 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:20,040 Speaker 1: US men's national team history being exclamation point, the Lebron silencer, 1123 01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,000 Speaker 1: a little small check mark for the Lebron Well, just 1124 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,720 Speaker 1: a little, tiny, tiny check mark at I'm not saying 1125 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 1: it makes something goat. I'm just simply saying, if in 1126 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,920 Speaker 1: your mind it was exactly tied, if it was fifty 1127 01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:38,040 Speaker 1: to fifty, exactly tied, Lebron's now taking the lead. All right, 1128 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 1: enjoy the soccer tonight. I'm all over Croatia today and 1129 01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:47,120 Speaker 1: I am all over Mexico when they play England this weekend. 1130 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,960 Speaker 1: I think the US men's national team can beat Belgium, 1131 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,800 Speaker 1: and I think FIFA should throw out Balligan's suspension. Thank 1132 01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,840 Speaker 1: you to hard Rock, thank you to Boost, thank you 1133 01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,479 Speaker 1: to Blue Duck, thank you to Demanse, and thank you 1134 01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,040 Speaker 1: to the Volume. Talk to you guys soon, see at 1135 01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,320 Speaker 1: ten am tomorrow. On first things first, Also, she doesn't 1136 01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,120 Speaker 1: watch this show because she texts me all the time 1137 01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,519 Speaker 1: questions that would have been answered on this show, or 1138 01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 1: takes other people have had that I had previously given 1139 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,280 Speaker 1: on the show. But all the same, Happy birthday to 1140 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,040 Speaker 1: my sister tomorrow. Talk to you guys later, See you 1141 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 1: guys then. What's right