WEBVTT - #152 - Kxng Crooked 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:09.640 We have a special guest on the blulet keV Show today, 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:12.799 a legend, one of the greatest rappers to ever touch 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.120 a microphone. Thank you, man. I appreciate it when we 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:19.319 talk about lyricism and we talk about at any given time, 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:21.800 this guy could be considered the best rapper alive when 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:25.040 he's just in his pocket. Man, I appreciate that, bro 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:29.240 Crooked Eye. What up with you, cav Man? Would you 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:31.920 consider yourself one of the most underrated rappers of all 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.320 time as well? You know? Well, I feel like I 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:36.839 underrate you. Sometimes when people ask me that question, I 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:38.959 always go to like Black Thought or Sean Price. I'd 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:42.080 be like, no, you're one of those guys too. I mean, 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:46.160 m have posted that in his opinion, I was the 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:49.600 most underrated in hip hop history. That's a MC you 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:51.640 know what I'm saying, And a lot of people feel 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:56.440 that way. Who's it depends on who's doing the rating. 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:00.240 Mm you feel me? So, if you know you know, 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:02.680 if you know, you know, No, there's a lot of 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.959 goat contenders, you know what I mean who don't get 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:08.560 on songs with me? Yeah, I mean listen, I just 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.160 think when it comes to like wordplay, lyrics. I mean, 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.320 the things that make an MC and MC. I just 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:18.759 I think that when you're in your bag, it's rough. 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:20.160 I mean, there ain't a lot of people who can 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.319 hang with you. Man, Hey, I appreciate that. I mean, 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.720 that's that's years. That's years. That's years. Man. It's crazy 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.600 too because I just remember back in the day buying 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.520 the Swaying King Tech albums from like the liquor store, 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.320 and that is where I first discovered you from those 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.280 freestyles because they used to have like the best of 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.680 the wake Up Show. And this might have been around 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:41.040 the time you're on Death ro Er, it might have 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:44.800 been before, but that was like kind of you know, 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:46.600 I mean, how many years ago was that, man, I 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:48.480 was a kid, so that was that was years I 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.000 was a kid too. I mean that was in the 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:54.280 nineties probably somewhere, you know what I mean. Shout out 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:56.920 to Swain Tech because they always heard Tech nine for 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.800 the first time too. Yeah, they have their platform. They 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.960 really shared their platform with real lyricists, you know, and 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:08.440 when their platform was at its hype, you know, syndication 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.840 and you know, they're on one of the biggest stations 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.480 in America. They were letting people come up there and 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:17.000 drop straight bars. I hope that we get a documentary 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:19.880 for them, in the same way we got to Stretch 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:23.000 and Bobido documentary, because I feel like what they did 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:27.120 was like equals equally as important for guys like Eminem, 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:28.760 for guys like all these you know, we could go 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.079 on and on. Yeah, I mean, that's the first time 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:35.960 I ever heard Eminem was on Swing Tech Facts. Well, listen, 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.760 welcome to the show. Obviously, so much we got to 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:45.200 talk about so much, we got to unpack it'dt you 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.799 got an album coming out with Joel, Yes, sir, Tomorrow Night. 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.680 This is an album that is obviously stirred up a 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:57.279 lot of controversy. It's stirred up a lot of opinions. 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:00.919 The records that you guys have out have been great 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.720 so far, and for people who are unaware, this is 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:05.480 the second time you and Joel have put out a 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:10.760 joint project. Absolutely, so let's get Let's get for first 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:17.960 of all, who like the initial idea of theming this 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:23.799 album around the Rise and Falls Slaughterhouse? Right? Where did 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:28.000 the idea come from? And how long have you guys 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:33.120 been working on this body of work? Basically? Man, you 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.840 know I had an opportunity for the whole group Slaughterhouse. 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:41.080 And you know, let's give us the timeline. How long 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.720 ago was that. This was in August okay, August of 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.320 twenty twenty one. August of twenty twenty one. I had 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.560 an opportunity. I felt it was a good opportunity for 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:54.560 where Slaughterhouse is today. You know what I mean. We 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:58.640 kind of dropped off the scene as the streaming era 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.640 took off, you know what I mean. Our last album 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:05.280 was in twenty twelve. That's ten years ago. Wow, that's 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.760 so great. I'm fucking old man. Yeah, Doug, that's what 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:11.440 I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. So, our fans 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.520 have been with a glass house. No, the Glasshouse never 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:15.960 came out, I know, that's right. That was the That 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:18.800 was the Welcome Dark House with the Celo single and 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.000 all that. Yes, sir, So that was ten years ago, 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.279 and our fans have been waiting on music for ten years, 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.440 you know what I'm saying. So I had this opportunity. 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:30.680 I thought it was a great opportunity. I spoke to 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.599 a couple other guys about it, and it was brought 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.560 back to me that Joe didn't think that that was 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.280 a good opportunity, you know what I mean, he didn't 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.120 want to do it. So Joe didn't want to do it, 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:42.880 and Royce said he didn't want to do it. If 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.479 if Joe wasn't doing it, now maybe maybe Royce felt like, 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:52.320 it's not really slaughter House unless it's all four, you 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.279 know what I mean? Because and so it might not 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.479 just because of Joe per se. It could have just 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.359 been whatever. But I went back to the label and 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.760 I was like, Yo, what could you offer us for 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.120 just us three? You know what I mean? Because Joe 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.719 is retired and he's he doesn't seem interested in this 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.120 deal right here. And they were like, Yo, we're rock 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.640 and roll with you. Let's do it, you know. And 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.640 so when I brought that to Royce, he was like, nah, 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.840 you know, slaughter House needs to be all four of us. 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:24.159 So when we hung up the phone, met him and Joel. 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.560 Me and Joel got back on the phone the next 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:28.880 day and was like, yo. I was like, Yo, how'd 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:32.320 you feel about that conversation? And he said it felt 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.599 like the group was officially over? And I said, yeah, 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.960 it does. You know, spent ten years we bring an 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:41.039 opportunity to the table. You know, they don't want to 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.039 do it, you know, for whatever reason. You know, they're 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.919 entitled of course to to you know, want to do 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:52.000 business or not. I was like, man, this shit is 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.599 pretty pretty much over. So, you know, we sat on 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.080 it for a minute, and then I called Joel back 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.200 and I was like, yo, man, let's get back in there. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:02.480 He was like, yeah, Man, let's get back in there 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.240 and do something. And it was just a conversation. What 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:06.920 are we going to talk about? And I was like, man, 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:11.559 let's talk about all the shit that happened. It's slaughter house. 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:14.800 Let's talk about the good times the bad times. Let's 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.360 just let's get a fan some closure, you know what 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.919 I'm saying, and let's give ourselves some therapy, you know. 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:24.800 And uh, that's how the whole concept started rolling out. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:29.279 And this was in like I would say, probably after 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:35.000 September or something like that. October. So the other day 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:39.240 the IG Live happens with Joe and Royce and then 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.040 Joelle comes on. You were on a flight, right, Yeah, 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:43.400 I was on a flight. You were in the area. 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.240 You probably would have been on there as well, right. 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:46.960 I tried to get in there, though I would even 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.400 I would even gather to say that that conversation would 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.080 have probably been a lot more measured if you were 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.560 a part of it, because I feel like you're you're 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:59.040 kind of I just know you. Yeah. Now, there were 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.440 certain aspects of that conversation where I could kind of 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:06.120 see everyone's perspective right when we when we think of 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:10.560 like like, did you guys ever actually hear Joe say no? 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.760 Or was it like some hearsay because he said he 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:15.920 never turned down the deal? And the thing that Royce 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.440 kept bringing out was when did we When did we 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.000 say no? Over and over and over and then there 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.440 was just a lot of back and forth. Royce is 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.080 calling Joel a liar, Joel's calling them like why are 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:31.040 y'all lying? What? Like? Is there any chance that there 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:36.080 was muddled communication or there was, because I mean, all 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:37.760 four of you guys, from what I know, are stand 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.080 up guys who would not lie on each other. Yea, 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.480 I think that. Can you kind of give me some 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.680 context on where some of the you're a liar? Why 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:48.880 the fuck are you lying? Well, you're lying? When did 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.000 I turn a depth like that is kind of where 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.600 it's like to me, it's like, Okay, there's a huge 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:58.520 disconnect on each side of what actually happened, right, and 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:04.800 it's it's I feel like, to be honest, they were 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:10.200 kind of put in a position. Who's that Joe and Royce? Okay, 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:14.800 they didn't know that this album was coming out, so 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:21.200 I kind of afforded them, you know, a little elbow 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:29.000 room to be emotional and you know, try to address 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.440 it in the best way that they could being caught 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:35.560 off guard like that. You know what I'm saying now, 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.800 within that I'm trying to say that, you know, maybe 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.720 that's the reason that the story doesn't add up. You 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.000 see what I'm saying, because it's like, yo, what are 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:51.960 we going to say? You feel me? But point blank 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:56.840 no fact, no opinions, no no lies, no just straight facts. 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.880 I brought the deal to the table, Okay. I told 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:03.400 the guys, I need to get on a phone call 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:08.000 with all of them. I couldn't get in contact with 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:11.400 Joe because Joe said he never actually saw a deal, right, 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:15.720 Joe never called me. So so I got on Twitter 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:20.400 and I said, hey, guys, cause I talked to my supporters. 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:24.080 You're very active on Twitter on Twitter very much, so 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.000 I say, hey, guys, I didn't tell him about the deal. 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.160 I'm just like, yo, y'all want to see the gang 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:33.240 back together. I'm giving everybody forty eight hours to call me. Okay, 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:37.320 forty eight hours went by. Race hit me, yo, what's 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.120 going on. That's when I say, Yo, this is what's 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.720 going on. I got this deal. It's it's a great 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.960 opportunity for us. That's ownership involved. You know, we're gonna 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:46.840 be able to do our thing, roll it out how 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.200 we want to roll it out. Everything is laid out, 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:52.400 you know. We good, all right, we just need to 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:56.640 all get on the phone. So he calls Joe. All right, 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:02.680 So Joe, I don't want to do it. Okay, Joe 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:06.160 calls Joel, Man, what's Crooked doing on Twitter? He got 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.200 everybody in my telling me to call him? Yeah, right right, 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.200 Well he got this deal, Joe, and YadA, YadA, YadA. Well, 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:15.520 I don't want to do the deal, and I don't 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:17.120 want to be the one that ship on cook right 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.600 now about this deal. So I'm gonna call I'm gonna 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.000 think about it, but I'm gonna call Crook in a 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.920 couple hours. And that this was related to you from 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:28.839 Royce from from Joel told me that to expect a 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:32.839 call from Joe in an hour, and he was gonna 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:34.440 tell me why he didn't want to do the deal. 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:37.920 Assuming you never got the call. Never got the call. 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:41.520 Royce called me a couple of times. I remember, like 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:43.320 it was yesterday. I was getting the COVID test because 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.640 I was going to Hawaii. I was at the airport 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:50.880 and he said, Yo, So Joe said, he don't think 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:55.120 that's a good deal. You know the thing the deal 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.480 memo points that I kind of conveyed to Royce. Royce 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:05.840 told Joe the advance amount, yeah, all that shit, percentages whatever. 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:12.040 So I said, well, I'll tell you what. Royce, tell 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.040 Joe to call me. We'll all get on the phone, 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.640 and whatever Joe wants, we'll give it to him. Because 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:20.959 I got juice like that with the people that I'm 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.040 working with people, so we have full contexts. Who are 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.200 the people that offer the deal. Well, one of my 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:30.959 business partners has distribution through every major that there is, 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.719 and he's a business partner of mine outside of music too, 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:36.840 and I've been doing business with him. He's like a 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:40.160 brother to me. This guy was in a position where 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:44.400 he wanted it bankroll the situation. He could bankroll it. 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.880 He could if you just wanted to bankroll it yourself, 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:52.240 you know, you could just use the whatever. So he had, 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.240 but he was going to bankroll it. So based on 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:58.640 what those deal points where Joe was, Joe said he 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.760 didn't want to do it, okay, And I told Royce 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:03.400 to give me a call. I can get Joe whatever 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.640 he wants to get put into the paperwork, but I'm 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.560 not going to go back and forth and you know, 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.880 with the attorneys and let's see this, and let's see this. 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:11.480 Just tell me what you want. We've all been in 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.880 the game past twenty some years. We know what contracts 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.080 look like. Tell me exactly what you want. We'll put 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.200 it in the contract and then we'll start from there. 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.760 We'll start from where you want, Joe, wherever you want, 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:22.480 you know what I mean. And I was doing that 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.480 honestly as a courtesy to Royce, because I got love 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.160 for Royce, you know what I mean. Already was at 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.520 a point where this was my last time ever trying 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.439 to do business with Joe Button again. So I got 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.160 love for Royce. So I said, you know what, as 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:37.800 a courtesy, we'll do that, you know what I mean, 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.559 to try to see if we can get the fans 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:44.880 this last album. So you know, he was like, all right, man, y'all, 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.600 y'all gotta talk about it. I'm like, yeah, because he's 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.240 being the middle man. Joe was using Royce as a 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.560 middleman to communicate with me. I didn't like that because Joe, 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.440 because Royce is a general, and I start feeling like, 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:57.960 why is he trying to use this man as a 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.199 foot soldier. You know what I'm saying, This do is 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.320 a general. All men are created equal. We all should 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.720 be on the phone together. It's no reason you shouldn't 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.120 be calling me right now. So he didn't call. He 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.000 never called. Weeks went by, months went by, and it 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.480 was like everybody just went back to their corners and 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.840 I never even heard back about the deal, you know, 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:17.200 none of that stuff. It was just over, man. So 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:21.480 you know, and once Royce said that he didn't want 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.160 to do it as a three man crew, which he's 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.440 totally entitled to. Right. Once he said that, it was like, 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.599 all right, well, this shit is over. You know what 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:35.120 I'm saying. I don't think. I don't think that what 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:39.840 I could have communicated better to Royce because as a friend, 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:44.080 I could have communicated it better to him that I'm 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:49.920 only talking to Joe for you. I would prefer to 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.280 move slaughter House forward without Joe because Joe is retired 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.960 and there's been a lot of snags dealing with Joe 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.360 in the business side of things. So I would rather 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.920 move slaughter House for without Joe. But as a courtesy 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.360 to my friend, and I know you fuck with Joe, 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.760 and I know you have a different relationship with Joe. Yeah, 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.600 that's fine, bring Joe to the table, But I don't 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.640 think that as a friend. I don't think that I 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:20.960 communicated that enough. He knows where I'm at, But I 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.080 feel like he felt like he could massage the situation. 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.120 Crook got love for me, Joe got love for me. 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.520 I could probably be the glue to keep all that 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:29.600 shit together, you know what I mean. But he didn't 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.680 know that I was at my last final breaking point 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.280 with Joe. With Joe as far as the slaughter House 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:39.920 situation goes, now, you had said that, to be fair, 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:45.640 Joe and Royce did not know this album was coming. Yeah, 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:51.440 they didn't know. Can you take any responsibility in keeping 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.440 them in the loop or did you not feel like 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.280 you needed to because this was not a Slaughterhouse album. 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.440 It's not a Slaughterhouse album. I'm not kept in the 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.440 loop with no of their albums that they dropping. And 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.360 to be honest with you, it was a situation where 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.000 I said, you know what, we need to tell our 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.600 story and we don't need any distractions. We need to go. 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:15.000 Maybe if you give them the heads up, the distractions 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.200 start coming from behind the scenes and you guys aren't 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:21.520 able to focus on your task. Absolutely, there's no way. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.800 We had to take that energy when we got off 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:28.200 the phone, that heartbreak, that heartbreak, that energy that we 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.360 had that this shit is over. We had to take 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.160 that into the into the booth. That had to go 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.720 into the booth. That was the energy that needed to 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.840 go into the booth to create this for the fans, 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:43.600 you know what I mean. And all we talked so much, 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:47.320 Like Willie d say, no more talk. We talked so much. 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.160 It got to the first ten years, it got to 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:55.440 the point where talking and no actions was just I 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.360 had it up to here, man, I couldn't I couldn't talk. 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.160 I couldn't talk one more time saying with the with 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.560 the slaughter House situation in general, and I'm sure fans 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:04.400 feel the same way. Fan. I mean, listen, you guys 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.680 have a core fan base that it's there, right, But 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.520 I do feel like over time, the fan base, the 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.040 excitement for a new Slaughterhouse, I'm just getting smaller and 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:18.560 smaller and smaller because it's just been so long ten years. Brother, Like, 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.720 think about that. Put yourself in the in the fans 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.560 shoes for two seconds. And I don't think this is 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.960 what the group ever did. I don't think they really 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.480 specifically what Joe and Royce are saying. I don't watch 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:35.920 everything that they say because I'm not about to fall 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:39.640 into that type of trap and that low vibration energy 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:43.720 and you know, calling names and you know liars and 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:45.840 all this type of shit. I'm not even trying to 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.080 fall into noh, none of that. But people send me clips, 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.400 people tell me, hey, this, this is what happened in 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.480 all this. You know, put put yourself in a fan 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:55.920 put yourself in the fan shoes for a minute. You've 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:57.880 been waiting on one of your favorite groups in the 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:02.040 world to drop an album for ten years now. Behind 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.400 the scenes, I've been taking flights to New York go 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.480 talk to Paul Rosenberg. I've been taking flights to Detroit, 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.520 talking to EM, talking to to Royce. How can we 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:12.880 put this back together? You know what I mean? And 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:17.119 it's not happened in ten years, So it's like, you 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:21.960 know what you're telling me, You want me to wait again. 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:25.480 And then I saw something where roy said that we 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.560 weren't waiting on anybody. That that's a lie. So I 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:32.200 need to address all this stuff because whenever they say that, 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.119 I just come back with the truth. You know what 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:37.480 I'm saying, Like, you can attack my character, my integrity, 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:39.640 you could try to assassinate it and say that I'm 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:41.520 a liar and I'm doing this for money and all 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:43.760 this other type of shit, But I'm gonna just keep 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.120 on hitting back with truth. We started off slaughter House 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.359 in the early days, waiting on Joe, you know what 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.879 I'm saying. Like when we first got our deal with Shady, 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:57.320 we had a song called Session one on one of 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.520 EM's projects. He was trying to, you know, put the 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.280 group on one of his projects. I think it was 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.000 gonna be a bonus cut or something on one of 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.760 the albums, and you know, we're new to the label. 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.880 Let me share my platform with the group. So we 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:16.280 do Session one and all the Slaughterhouse fans know Joe 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.879 Budden isn't on Session one. Well, why isn't Joe on 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:23.439 Session one? Joe was signed to another label. He was 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:27.720 caught up in some paperwork something. He was signed to 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:35.040 a Malcolm Digital, okay, and they called over to Shady like, hey, 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.080 we have him under contract. You have to get a 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.400 clearance from us to have him appear on that song. Right, 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.960 So we're like, wait a minute, because all of us 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:48.320 went in as supposedly free agents to sign this deal 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:52.320 with Shady and come to find out Joe was under paperwork. 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:56.720 He said that they forged his signature and that wasn't him, 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:00.000 and the group was put on the shelf for a minute. 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:04.280 It while he was fighting a Malcolm Digit on court 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:09.000 and we were waiting on Joe because we couldn't move forward. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:10.679 Now here we are with a brand new deal with 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:14.200 Shady Records, and we can't even really move forward as 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.720 a group because we got to wait on Joe in 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:20.000 court and that took months. Let me tell you that 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:26.000 took months. Right So, after the the signature expert determined 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:28.400 that that was his signature on the on the contract, 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:31.760 we was able to figure out how you know, to 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.159 matter forward after that, you know what I mean? And 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:38.040 that was that was the first time waiting on Joe 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:41.760 to give the fans slaughter house. A lot of other 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:48.560 scenarios like that kept happening, you feel me, So Joe 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:52.320 related scenarios where we're waiting on Joe. Okay, So when 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:54.240 when when Roy says, we don't wait on Joe, Just like, 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:57.480 wait a minute. What about when we were Glasshouse was 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.840 sitting around collecting dust and we were all on a 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.400 conference call with Paul Rosenberg and all of the Shady staff, 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:05.360 and we say, hey, guys, when we're gonna get back 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.000 together to do the album. And we're like, okay, let's 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.040 finish the album in the summer. And Joe's like, nah, 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:12.520 we can't do the summer. You know, I gotta throw 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:14.680 pool parties and shit and I gotta do this other 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:17.600 shit and all that. Like okay, so we'll wait on that. 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:23.360 We'll reconvene in September or October. Hit him September October. Nah, 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:27.480 I still ain't ready waiting on jail. So everybody was 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:31.080 on the same page to finish Glasshouse except Joie for 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:33.760 a while. For a while, you know what, I'm saying 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:37.600 Royce's studio was always open. See Royce, I feel he's 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:41.480 always down to work if everybody is on board. But 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.000 if everybody's not on board, he's gonna do his own thing, 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:47.840 which makes sense, you feel me. I mean, that's just logical. 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:53.159 It was always us waiting on Joe to be on board. 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:57.320 And when I brought this last and final opportunity to 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.240 the table, and you're telling me that I got to 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:03.359 wait on Joe, Joe doesn't like it. He wants to 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:05.520 do some other kind of deal. Well, what kind of 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:07.280 deal does Joe want to do? Because all of a 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:11.439 sudden there's deals that he wants to do. But for 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:14.320 ten years there's been nothing. It's been crickets. But now 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:17.760 that I have this, now he wants to do another 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:19.840 kind of deal. And it's like, okay, well what kind 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:21.760 of deal does he want to do? He wants to 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:24.439 finance it. That's what I heard him talking about when 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:26.520 I did catch a piece of the live They want 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:29.879 to he wanted to finance it. He's like, Yo, it 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:32.400 takes a lot of trust to go into that type 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:35.119 of business with somebody. You know what I'm saying, You 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:40.280 gotta have like if I was to if we would 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:43.840 have to all for financing one it could never be 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.680 just one person, and that one person could definitely not 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:50.560 be mister Joe. But I'm sorry, you know, he don't 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:53.639 have that type of credit with me when it comes 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:55.640 to the business. You know what I'm saying now, I'm 0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:58.919 just speaking on slaughter house business. He doesn't have the 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:02.160 credit with me for me to say, oh yeah, cool, 0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:05.480 you can finance it, Joe. That's not gonna work. So 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.320 I don't know, whatever kind of deal that they envisioned 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:12.240 for the group, it wasn't gonna work with me anyway. 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:15.359 So we come to a stalemate. He don't want to 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:17.199 do the deal I'm bringing, and I'm not doing the 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:20.720 deal his way. So it all leads to slaughter House 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:23.399 being over. I think to a lot of people. Got 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:30.960 to understand it is like, after ten years of conversations, 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:36.080 hitting a wall that involved one person. Maybe you know, 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:39.680 under normal circumstances, yourself and Joelle would have at least 0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:42.120 kept Royce in the loop. But at a certain point 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:46.120 in time when the frustration is at a level where 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:48.800 it's like, you know what, we know we've done this 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:51.520 over and over and over. Here we just got to 0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:53.959 do what we gotta do. It just is what it is, like, 0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:56.240 it just is what it is at this point, and 0:22:56.560 --> 0:23:01.120 it's like, you know, I was in my kitchen right 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:05.200 we were talking, me and Royce and Joel, and I said, Royce, 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:08.320 if Joe ain't gonna rap, because he's not gonna rap, 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.360 I didn't even believe Joe will rapp. Yeah, I'm like, Yo, 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:17.960 are you down or do the Three Man Crew? Don't 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:20.400 say that, crook, don't put that in the universe. He's 0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:22.640 gonna he's gonna be, he's gonna do do the right thing. 0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:26.360 So we keep talking for fifteen twenty minutes and we're 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:28.200 about to hang up the phone. I say, listen, Rayce, 0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.080 I just really need to hear this. I know you said, 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:32.879 don't put in the universe. I'm not trying to put 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:37.639 any negativity, no negative vibes out there. But if Joe 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:41.960 isn't with this, are you gonna do the three Man Crew? 0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:47.119 And He's like, slaughter house is four people, So what 0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:50.000 do you think that means? Call that means no. It 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:53.920 means no. Without saying no, that means no. He's slarter 0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:56.840 houses for people. So technically, neither of you are lying 0:23:57.119 --> 0:24:01.119 because technically, well, I didn't say, well, I'm gonna tell 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:06.359 you list like this. I'm Joel was like, no, no, crook. 0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:08.719 He did say Slaughterhouse is not for people. But I 0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:11.280 was on the call he said no, okay, and I 0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:15.600 was like, I was just so clouded and my mind 0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:18.000 got clouded when he said that, because it meant so 0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:22.600 much to me that when he said slaughter house is 0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:26.600 for people, and I'm like, Yo, this is over. So 0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:30.280 I kind of blacked out on the phone, like all 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:32.399 this fucking work that I put in, all this shit 0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:35.720 that we built together, this shit is really over. Was 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:41.159 there ever an idea to replace Joe? People always said, hey, 0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:44.080 won't you replace Joe? You know, won't you put him 0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:46.840 in that slot? Let him go? Was the other guy 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:48.240 who was supposed to be part of the group. Was 0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:50.879 it Nino Blessed? Was that his name? Nino bless I 0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:53.439 remember he was like on that first Slaughterhouse record that 0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:55.880 was like not even a slaughteruse. Yeah, shut out Nino 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.840 bless you know what I mean? Like, he's very instrumental 0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.000 into how this whole thing came together. He's part of 0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:03.479 the story, you know what I mean? And I just 0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:07.520 think that. You know, everybody who was part of the 0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:11.560 story needs to mention now, you know. So how about this, Like, 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.240 I know you and Royce better than I know Joelle 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.159 and Joe. I know you guys could be men of 0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:20.080 high integrity, high character. You guys have the longevity you've 0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:23.720 had in this industry for a reason. Never know bullshit 0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:28.919 involving y'all's names, right, you know, I can understand the 0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:33.040 frustration of Royce's side saying, Hey, that's that's our logo 0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:34.800 that you guys are putting on the front of that, 0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:38.760 and you guys just bombard us with this album that 0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.600 I had no idea was coming, and it's our logo 0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:45.320 on fire. You know, he has to me, he has 0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:47.879 he has a right to be emotional about that and 0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:51.439 to feel a way about that. Would you agree? Absolutely? 0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:54.800 And and like you guys obviously know that, like you said, 0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.320 you said, you said, I I can give I knew 0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:58.960 that this. I didn't give them a heads up, so 0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:01.760 I understood that they that there's gonna be an emotional reaction, 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:05.080 and you kind of counted for that already, right, No, 0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:08.399 I give them room to react to that. You know 0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:12.520 what I'm saying, you know, I'm watching how I'm watching 0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:16.399 the reactions, you know what I'm saying, because if it 0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:20.199 was me, you know, but I feel differently. But if 0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:22.919 it was me, I don't care. They can use the 0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.159 Slaughterhouse logo for whatever they want to use it for, 0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:26.919 you know what I mean. Like I said, I owns 0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:30.639 that logo. Well, what happened was they're saying that ownership 0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:34.240 was relinquished to the group later. I haven't seen no 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:39.080 paperwork stating that we got jerked in the beginning. You know, 0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:45.040 somebody owned it that was not a part of the group, 0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:48.760 you feel me, So somebody on the management team owned it, 0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:52.800 to my knowledge, someone who was a part of the 0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.840 group's management groups management, you know what I mean? So 0:26:57.560 --> 0:26:59.720 right off, rip that should have been that's that's a 0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.000 rip flat. But I heard that they made it write 0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:04.520 and relinquished it to the group when we went to Shady. 0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.199 I'm not sure. I've never seen the paperwork on that. 0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:10.280 When I go and look look up the trademark, I 0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:14.720 don't see our names anywhere mentioned on the trademark. So 0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:18.240 I don't know who wants it and feel some type 0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:20.320 of way somebody would just see you yeah, and I 0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:22.680 would just take it off the cover and keep going, 0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:25.640 you know what I'm saying, because this story is gonna 0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.960 be told. They can't stop it. They can't, you know. 0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:32.080 I feel like they have efforts to try to do 0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:35.480 damage control over something that they haven't even heard yet, 0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.159 you know what I mean. And it's like, you know, 0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:44.840 this story needs to be told for us on our fans. 0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:47.480 I think the fans need closure, and I think y'all 0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:49.919 need clothes. I need Hella closure, keV. I'm gonna tell 0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.399 you because guess what, every fucking time you do an 0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.200 interview or Joelle does an interview, or Royce does an interviewer, 0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.480 everyone's asking what's up with what's up with glass House? 0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.399 What's up with slaughter House's It'll never go away until 0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:04.159 you just close the chapter and say, burn the book 0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:07.240 you have to. And that's what I had to do, man, 0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:09.320 like a lot of people like you burning the shirts 0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:12.680 up on a video. Now listen, I'm trying to get 0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:15.480 this low vibration shit out of my life forever. I'm 0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:18.159 in a whole nother place. I'm six years sober. I 0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:21.720 haven't I've been, you know, in master classes. I've been 0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.359 you know, trying to better myself, get to get myself 0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.840 into a better headspace, just be a better human being. Period. 0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.720 I need this negative triggering shit the fuck out of 0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:32.840 my life for the forever. I don't want to go 0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:34.800 back to it. They could do whatever they want with it, 0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.639 and that was my that was my intention. So just 0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:44.000 me symbolically tearing slaughter House down out of my life, 0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:46.400 you know what I'm saying. Me personally, if they want 0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:48.160 to uphold it and they want to put it on 0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.760 a pedestal, they could do that all day and they're 0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:52.040 not gonna hear a peep from me, you know what 0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.560 I mean. But me personally, I had to get it 0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.040 out of my life because every single time we spoke 0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.480 about it, talked about it, try to do it again, 0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:02.160 and it did happen, And all the interviews and the 0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:05.200 post a fucking piece of toast on Instagram and people 0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:07.080 still like, Yo, what's up That toast is cool? But 0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:10.000 what's up with slaughter House? You know? It's just too much. Man, 0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:12.320 I'm over it. It needs to go, you know what 0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.479 I'm saying. I mean, listen, I respect it, man, I 0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:16.800 respect it. I think. I mean, like I said, I 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:21.240 understand everyone's kind of side. I think that you know, 0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:23.920 the one thing I saw, I just saw Rory. Did 0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:27.520 you see Rory and Maul? And so they kind of 0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:32.320 talked about what's going on in their podcast and Mal 0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:35.840 was like, now, fuck that they can they they should 0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:37.400 be able to do that album, like you know what 0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:39.720 I'm saying. And the one thing that like they said, 0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:43.320 and I know that they're probably closer to the situation 0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:46.520 than a lot of people are, right, absolutely, especially Mall. 0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:51.160 You guys weren't friends, is what they said. Them guys 0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.080 ain't friends. They were in a group together. That don't 0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:57.440 mean that they're friends. Yeah, I was friends with it 0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.520 was it was odd. I was friends with Joe, Joel 0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.840 and Royce. You know what I'm saying. Royce was friends 0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:09.080 with me, and Joe saying Joel was friends with me 0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:12.400 and Royce, and then some happened to that dynamic between 0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:14.280 him and Royce. So it was just like me and 0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:18.360 Joel was friends. It was just really really really odd man. 0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.200 And it's just it might be the oddest concoction for 0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.000 an actual group that toured together, that put albums out 0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:28.760 together in terms of like how it was formed. Right, 0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:31.160 there was really no you guys never had a real 0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.000 origin story. It's not like you guys grew up together. 0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:35.880 We think of Grizzela, we think of Wu Tang. All 0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:39.960 these people grew up together, so you know the downfalls 0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:43.080 of those groups. It was a lot of emotional family 0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:46.080 based shit with you guys. It was listen, man, the 0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:49.720 fans wanted this. We did it. Would you say you start? 0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:54.080 Because I think, like I always talked to groups. There's 0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:58.040 a group out of LA called Shoreline Mafia. Yeah, shout 0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.800 out to h o Gez And he had said that 0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.880 like when they did their first tour together, he started 0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:07.360 to kind of notice the cracks in the foundation because 0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:09.400 they had to be around each other a lot, Right, 0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:12.520 your guys' first tour was it the Tech nine tour? 0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.320 I think that was our first victory. Yeah. Did you 0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:18.840 notice back then, just being on the road together that 0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:22.320 there was that there was some red flags? Well, when 0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.400 I first we first did our thing at best Buy 0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:28.200 And I don't want listen, I'm not here to assassinate 0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:30.960 Joe character, So i'ma I'm gonna get off Joe. You 0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.200 know what I'm saying. I'm gonna just say this. We 0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:36.600 did our when we did our our first n story 0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:40.560 at best Buy on the East Coast. You know, somebody 0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:45.280 told me, whatever you do, don't let Joe be Joe. 0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.240 And I didn't know what that meant because we were 0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:52.360 relatively brand new to each other. You know, I didn't 0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.400 know what that meant, you know, but I found out, 0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:58.160 you see what I'm saying, yeah, rather quickly, and and 0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:01.440 you just got people who have two different types of vibes, 0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:05.040 two different types of mindsets, two different types of you know, 0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.520 what their moral compass is and things of that nature. 0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.960 It's just, you know, it is what it is. So 0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:12.840 it was very hard for us to even you know, 0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:16.840 rock like that. And it was almost like a lot 0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:22.800 of times, dog, I stayed I stayed silent because I 0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:25.800 had love for Royce, you know what I mean. So 0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.760 a lot of times I was like, yo, I'm a 0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.840 chill because I had love for Royce and I understood 0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:34.680 that Royce had a different relationship with Joe. But Royce 0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:36.640 knew because sometimes I was like, Yo, this dude, this 0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:38.920 dude wilding right now, you know what I mean, And 0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:44.000 me and him have a conversation. Glue. He was the 0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:47.120 group for between that between Joe and the rest of 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:50.360 the group. Yeah, yeah, I mean and the and the 0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:52.720 and the thing is now, don't get me wrong, Joe 0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:58.440 brings a lot to the table. Of course, he rose 0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:00.800 in his bag. He's one of the one, he's one 0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:02.960 of them one. So he brings, he brings, he brings 0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:04.680 all that to the table, you know what I mean. 0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:09.360 But you know that's dope from a fan perspective. But 0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:11.280 when you have to be inside a group of someone 0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:13.040 you have to be doing business. You have to do 0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:15.840 business with somebody, you have to be you know, shared 0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.200 the same quarters with somebody, it's different, you know what 0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.120 I mean. And and uh, it wasn't gonna work. It 0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.360 just wasn't gonna work. So where did you, like, at 0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:26.040 what point in time did you reach your break because 0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:27.680 you had said earlier that you had already had you 0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:29.680 had already reached your breakup point with Joe when you 0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.400 would kind of okay, I'm gonna give it one more go. 0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:35.480 When did you initially reach that break up point with Joe? Well, 0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.640 Royce wanted everybody to come to Heaven in Detroit, his 0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:48.320 studio and do some joints for Glasshouse, and we all 0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:53.320 scheduled it, said, I will be there. You know. This 0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:57.520 was some years ago too, and I flew out there 0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:02.080 and I was the only one that showed up. Wow, 0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.840 you see what I'm saying. And I'm like, where, what's 0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:09.560 going on? Where's everybody else? So I called Joel where 0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:12.759 are you at? He was like, oh, crook man, you 0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:15.000 down there. I should have called you before you jumped 0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:16.839 on the plane. Joe told me he wasn't going, so 0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:18.600 I didn't get on the plane. I'm figuring, if he 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.879 not going with me, waste your time. And I said, 0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:23.799 but why did he say that? And he was like 0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:25.600 He's like, I don't know. He just said he wasn't 0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:28.560 going at the last minute. And I was like, wow. 0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.920 So now here I am in Detroit. It's snowing like 0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.920 a motherfucker. It's cold as shit, and I'm standing outside 0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:38.280 smoking a fucking cigar with fucking snowflakes on my beard, 0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.560 and shit, like, what the fuck am I gonna do now? 0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:43.440 So me and Boyce ended up doing like nine or 0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:48.120 ten joints ourselves, just using the time to create, you 0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:51.480 know what I mean, songs you might not never hear, 0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:53.880 you know what I mean? And uh, that was it 0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:55.799 for me. On my plane ride back. I was like, 0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.800 you know what, I'm never doing this. I'm not doing 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:03.800 this with that type of energy. And I was only willing, 0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:09.239 like I said, for Royce and funny enough, you know, 0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:12.719 I know, I know how Royce feels. I'm very considerate 0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:16.480 of other people's feelings, but sometimes you gotta consider your 0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:20.160 own feelings and it was time for me to shut 0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:24.400 down shop and move on. Yeah, I think, like I said, like, 0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:29.200 I understand the perspective of like Joe and Royce saying, hey, 0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:32.680 that's our logo, Slaughterhouse is ours too. You're kind of 0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:36.600 putting out this album kind of you know, telling his story, 0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.560 telling our story for us, and also using telling this 0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:43.080 using the group's imagery, using I'm not telling this story, 0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:45.920 kind of using Slaughterhouse as like the focal point of 0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:49.520 this project. So I understand their perspective. Like in my 0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:53.319 like like I'm sure if I had a fucking the 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:56.280 bootleg Head podcast and my producer Cook started a podcast 0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:58.799 talking about the behind the scenes and it was like 0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.799 my name, my my logo X style, I'd be like, yo, 0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:03.920 what the fuck? But it wasn't. Maybe there was no 0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:08.279 disrespect intended, but I could understand that perspective. But on 0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:12.160 the other hand, it's like if you guys knew, like, look, 0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:15.440 fuck it, whatever happens happens. We're lighting this bitch on fire, 0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:17.520 and I need this shit off of me. I gotta 0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.200 get this ship off me. It's like both I think 0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:22.680 both sides. Okay, So tell me this. If you do 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:26.080 a documentary on Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen's gonna be in 0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:29.200 that bitch true. And I think that it's kind of 0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:31.520 a similar thing to where you think of like how 0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:34.239 Scotty Pippen got mad about the last dance. Yeah, so 0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:36.600 I understand why he was mad because he didn't really 0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:40.160 get to fully explain what happened. So that's what Scottie 0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:44.800 Pippen goes and makes his last dance. Joe Royce go musically, 0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:47.359 go talk to the fans, right, do do whatever you want. 0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:50.279 Maybe that's what their IG life was. No, man, that's 0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:53.600 not gonna work. It's it's it's art over over live, 0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.879 over lives, his art over IG lives. Bro, what did 0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:59.680 you think of IG live in terms of because a 0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:01.839 lot of were making I think a lot of people 0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:03.719 took some of the stuff out of context in terms 0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:06.960 of the headlines. I saw right like Joe saying that 0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:09.000 album can suck my dick. Some people were like, yo, 0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:12.160 he told Joe Ortiz, the suck is dick. Yeah. Well yeah, 0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:14.279 even though he said the album, I just feel like 0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:16.640 that's going too far, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:19.520 there's certain shit you just don't do. But you know 0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:22.560 what I think of it, I wanted to get in there, 0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:29.440 land landed. I'm in their pressing requests, let me different conversation. Yeah, 0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:31.880 it would have been a different conversation because at that 0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:33.880 point they were saying that there was no deal, and 0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.080 then I could have probably got them to admit that 0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:38.680 there was a deal and that point they were saying 0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.120 they never said no. And then you know, later on 0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:43.560 Joe did an interview with one of the guys who 0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.680 I watch all the time on PSA Hip Hop, and 0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.439 he said, you know, it all boiled down to Crook 0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:51.520 wanted to do a deal that Joe didn't want to do. 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:53.759 You know, Joe didn't want to do the deal, so 0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:56.800 he did say no. He's admitting now that you know 0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:58.279 what I mean, he didn't want to do the deal, 0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:01.400 and we it got caught up in semantics like I 0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:03.680 never said no, there was never a deal, that's all 0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:06.839 I felt like. It felt like themantics. You know there 0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:08.320 was a deal. You know you didn't want to do 0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:10.600 the deal. Let's get past that, because we can't find 0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:13.640 common ground if we don't start off with honesty and truth. 0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:15.640 You know, we got to start at honesty and truth 0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:17.640 and then try to find common ground. If you're going 0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:20.200 to say you know there was no deal, where's the paper? 0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:22.480 Of course there was no paper because I said, have 0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.839 Joe hit me? And he never fucking hit me? So 0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:27.920 how can I even put his desires for the deal 0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:30.720 in paperwork for him if he's not even gonna call me? 0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:35.759 So it's impossible. When was the official release of you 0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:38.320 Guys as a group from Shady It was over a 0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:41.400 year ago. Over a year ago. Yeah, and again, who 0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:45.520 do we do that for? For Joe? Right? I mean, 0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:47.960 because really I feel like when Joe was on Everyday 0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:51.279 Struggle talking about Eminemli, obviously some of the things he 0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:54.400 said I didn't necessarily disagree with, right, But you know, 0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:57.560 but if you're Joe Budden and you're signed to your group, 0:38:57.640 --> 0:38:59.799 signed to the label, you you might want to make 0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:03.240 the business decision to just gotta hold hold back a little, 0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:05.719 you know what I'm saying, But especially if if your 0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:09.719 brother Royce is over there trying, you know, to hold 0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:13.440 it together. I was over there too, but let's just 0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:15.959 put it on Royce. If Royce was over there trying 0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:21.080 to he was trying to put Glasshouse out under the 0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:26.160 Shady umbrella the same day when Joe was throwing those 0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:30.640 grenades at everything. He was working during that time period 0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:33.399 to try to get Glasshouse out. Do you think Joe 0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:36.879 knew that? Probably because if he knew that, and yeah, 0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.919 I know he probably knew it. You know what I'm saying. 0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:42.200 He probably knew it. He wanted off Shady. Let me 0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:45.200 know if I'm wrong. Glasshouse was supposed to be executive 0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:49.080 pretty Jess Blaze or was it executive produced by just Blaze? 0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:52.239 And we kind of like formulated this slaughterhouse of producers 0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:56.680 of all amazing producers, you know, Justice League, Illmind, Cardiac 0:39:56.840 --> 0:40:01.799 was there, you know, man else was in there. It 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:04.600 was it was crazy to see them all making beasts 0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:09.200 together like it was just it was amazing. I don't 0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:12.600 know if have any of those songs leaked, Some of 0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.840 the songs we've played pieces bits and pieces and things 0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:17.840 like that. But for the most part, there's a whole 0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.840 album that nobody really ever heard, you know what I'm saying. 0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:23.200 And it was easy to finish. Yeah, like you had 0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:26.280 enough joints to you could go into what we recorded 0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:28.520 and create an album out of that, you know what 0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:32.839 I'm saying. Hopefully somebody leak conveniently leaks that ship up. Well, 0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:35.360 I thought about the leak man, but it's like, you know, 0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.719 those producers worked hard, they didn't get paid, you know 0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:41.680 what I'm saying, and I'm sure wouldn't mind. Well if 0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:44.120 they could reach if they Yeah, if the producers are 0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:46.960 on board, then absolutely, but that's on it, you know. 0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:48.799 But you know, we don't want to We don't want 0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.319 to harm anybody business wise. You know, because one of 0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.279 the beasts went to Ross. You know what I mean. 0:40:55.960 --> 0:41:02.520 The song is called I Forgot Suggests Blaze Ross Ross Song. Okay, 0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:04.080 you know what I'm saying. So it went one of 0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:07.439 the beats went to Ross. So you know, if those 0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.640 producers can still find a way to eat off those beats, 0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:13.480 I would just say someone conveniently who has access to 0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.080 the album give it to someone else who just conveniently 0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:18.600 leaks it and honestly online, and then it's on Reddit, 0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:20.000 and then you know, the people who want to hear 0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:22.560 it can hear. Hey, it might leak tonight. They might 0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:24.399 try to They might try to leak. They might try 0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:27.680 to leak it before me and Joel shit drop. Hey 0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:31.719 got some real ship? I could see that. So they 0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.440 could change the subject and ship. Yeah, you can't change 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.759 the subject. The fans want closure, bro. I talk to 0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:40.680 them every single day on turn Now you're super active. 0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:44.840 They want closure, bro. They want to know why. How 0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.440 you know if we put the fans are the fifth 0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:51.719 member of Slaughterhouse. If we ever put them first, Glasshouse 0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:55.120 would have came out. Everybody put egoing prior first. That's 0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:58.680 why Glasshouse never came out. It's that simple, like if 0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:03.680 you had to really it sounds like and again it's 0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:05.920 just sounds like if it weren't for Joe Budden, the 0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:09.680 album would have been out. Hey, am I crazy? Yo? Listen? 0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:13.480 Joe retired. He said it on his podcast. I can 0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:16.440 go and do whatever I'm trying to tell you. I 0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:21.000 think see. Royce is a music He's a heavy, heavy 0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:25.560 music guy, so in his mind he probably has this album. 0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:29.520 This this crazy album that he knows that we can 0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:33.720 achieve as a group, that he wants to, you know, help, 0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:37.399 He wants to paint this picture. He just probably has 0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:40.319 so many ideas when it comes to Slaughterhouse that he 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:43.880 wants to do, But what he doesn't understand is is 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:47.359 that it's not gonna get done. Bro. Yeah, I mean 0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:51.239 it's ten years. Bro. I feel sad every time I 0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:53.560 see him talking about he was gonna get Joe to rap. 0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:56.359 I'm like, dude, he was never gonna rap. I mean, listen, 0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:59.040 race is one of the greatest of all time. Yes, absolutely, 0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:01.960 I think when you're Royce and you put out I 0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:05.200 mean the Book of Ryan and The Alligatory got nominated 0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:08.439 for Rap Album of the Year, probably the two best 0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:12.840 bodies of work of his career. Absolutely, I'm not sure 0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:16.040 like if your Royce like The Headache or the it's 0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:18.160 just a lot, Like it sounds like the whole Slaughterhouse 0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:22.000 thing is a lot. It is and anything when there's 0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:25.040 four moving parts for four people. Ever, you got a manager. 0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:27.160 He's got a manager, he's got a manager. We all 0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:29.919 got four lawyers. It's just it's a lot and and 0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:32.600 and you know, for me, like I just had always 0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:35.080 assumed this ship was a rap forever. When Joe retired, 0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:39.200 I was just like, oh, well, now see you assume that. Yeah, 0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:41.200 well now you you're like, no, we're gonna put an 0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:44.239 album out and let you know it's a rap. Yeah. Yeah, 0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:47.160 I mean because because there's your guys' fans are a 0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:52.240 certain type of cult following where they're they're letting until 0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:54.360 they get the final No, They're going to keep harping 0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:58.440 on the situation. They're very invested in two Slaughterhouse. They 0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.319 are very invested, you know what I'm saying. And I 0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:06.239 don't think in this whole Debaco nobody is. Nobody's caring 0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:07.759 about it. I mean, I even heard Joe say the 0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:12.239 fans are idiots. I'm like, Doug, listen, I'm when we 0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:15.440 was on tour, I'm the last man on the tour bus, 0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:19.120 first man off. I'm out there with the fans. We 0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.239 get off the stage, I'm taking pictures with them, I'm 0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:23.400 signing art the grounds, I'm doing shots with the fans 0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:25.920 were talking rap. You know what I'm saying, That's just 0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.040 who I am. These are the people who love what 0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:29.799 we love. These are the people who put us where 0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:31.960 we are, you know what I mean. And I'm out 0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:34.200 there showing love, having fun with the fans at all times. 0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:36.600 So I've always been that type of person. And it 0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.200 doesn't stop because slaughter House stops, you know what I'm saying. 0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:41.520 So when the fans hit me and they're like, yo, 0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:44.080 you we you know I was listening to your song Goodbye, 0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:46.600 and you know my uncle died of cancer too, and man, 0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:48.840 it just really it saved me from wanting to harm 0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.239 myself and just know that you're going through the same 0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:53.160 thing and all that. I take that shit to heart. 0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:56.000 That shit ain't just a comment on my fucking script 0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:58.759 on my screen. That's fucking real shit. And I take 0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:00.799 that shit to heart. And when they tell me they 0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:02.319 want to know what the fuck is going on with 0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:04.960 the music and why we ain't putting out no records 0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:07.359 and what happened to Slaughterhouse, I want to give them 0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:09.879 that closure to look, this is what happened. Now. I'm 0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:12.160 not gonna go super deep and dig up all kinds 0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:14.080 of shit and show you where the bodies are. I'm 0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:16.360 just gonna be like, yo, this is what happened. And 0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:19.200 you know, thank you for all your support over the 0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:22.439 fucking years. I'm sorry to be the bad news. I'm 0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:24.560 sorry to be that guy, but this is what the 0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:28.239 fuck happened. It's over and some of the best motherfucking 0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:30.600 movies are based on a true story. This is a 0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.840 true story period. Did YO ever feel a type of 0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:37.640 way when you started to do Crook's Corner? Uh? And 0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:41.319 you're like, your your platforms and by the way, you're 0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:44.360 not doing that anymore, are you? Yeah? The YouTube channel? Yeah? 0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:46.239 Are you still like cause I feel like I feel 0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:48.880 like you did. You slowed down a bit on doing it. 0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:52.279 We started doing because you were doing it. Started for 0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:54.160 a while, right, I was doing it with hip Hop 0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:57.160 d X, and then you know, I moved it to 0:45:57.280 --> 0:46:00.400 another to my own channel. I got the eminem interview, 0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:06.319 and you know, my channel got taken deleted for some 0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:09.960 some other stuff. Right, so I started a brand new channel. 0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:12.840 And you know, I started a brand new channel. I 0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.080 have a brand new location. We we do Crooks Corner 0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:16.719 and a new location now you know what I mean. 0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:20.360 We got it's a beautiful location. Least that out for 0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:24.279 a year. And you know I've been having guests coming 0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:29.480 in and out shoot man, all kinds of people. So yeah, 0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:32.000 we still we're still doing it. It's still rocking and rolling. 0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:33.800 The new channel is growing right now, you know what 0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:35.800 I mean. I'm very happy at where we are with 0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:38.440 Chris Corner. I think my next episode is gonna be 0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:40.600 with Ice Tea. He dropped some jewels, you know what 0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.200 I mean, and uh yeah, shout out to Ice Tea. 0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:46.480 He came in. He killed it, you know, and uh 0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:49.080 you know, I had Chamelionaire on there. He was talking, 0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:53.160 you know, business, he's killing on the tech side. So 0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:57.000 it's going now. To answer your question, I don't know 0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.400 how he felt, but I had c Ob Radio before 0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:02.479 he still started the Joe Button podcast already had Cob Radio. 0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:04.480 Me and DJ Ski had I remember, you know what 0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:07.479 I'm saying. So I've always been in this space. It's 0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:09.480 just that I've been juggling shit, you know what I mean, 0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:12.040 because I got a lot of different ventures and businesses 0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:13.960 that I'm a part of. So it's like I have 0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:17.799 to always juggle my time and shit. But now I'm 0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:20.160 planning to you know, I'm in the middle of making 0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:23.200 my retirement album. So once I get that retirement album done, 0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:25.680 I'll be able to focus on Chris Corner. Multimedia and 0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:27.399 we'll be able to just start taking on. So you're 0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:31.560 retiring next Yeah, so you're done. Yeah, I mean I 0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:33.240 don't mind to come out to play for a future. 0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:36.919 I'm not one of these I'm saying, yeah, but making 0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:40.280 making solo albums and you know, and that was another 0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:42.919 reason why this album was so necessary to me, man, 0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:45.279 with me and Joel, because I want to say all 0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:46.959 the things I need to say to the people before 0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:48.800 I turn the mic off. You know, that's such a 0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:51.239 large part of your legacy, man, it's a large part. 0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:53.040 This is you know, people like, well, why did you 0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:55.320 rap about that? Listen, I've been rapping about my life, 0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:58.240 my whole fucking life, and this is something that happened 0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:00.520 in my life. That's why I get when people are like, hey, 0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:03.120 why are you rapping about it? Oh? When I left 0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:05.279 death Row Records, I rapped about it. You know what 0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:09.080 I'm saying. I left Shady Records in Slaughterhouse, I'm rapping 0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:12.160 about it. I'm entitled to rap about it, you know 0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:13.919 what I mean. That's what I've been doing my whole 0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:17.760 fucking life. Some of my fans know my life better 0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:20.200 than people in my family. Would you ever write a 0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:22.840 book for sure, because I feel like you're one of 0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:24.520 the few artists that could say you were a part 0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:28.640 of Death Row and Shady and then also just some 0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:31.839 of the walls you broke down in terms of when 0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:34.640 you were dropping a record every week, that was something 0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:38.880 that you were the first to do. Yes, then everybody everybody, 0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:41.080 I mean that blog era. You were early, like I 0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:43.520 remember like early blog era shit, and you were there, 0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:45.600 but not Rights and the two Dope boys dropping a 0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:48.359 record every fucking week, Yes, sir, And then everybody else 0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:50.640 did it. Everybody else did it, and I think once 0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:53.399 everybody else did it, it it ultimately changed the way all 0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:57.360 fans digest music. It kind of if you think about it, 0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:01.120 you're kind of right because now everyone we used to 0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:03.920 think if I got an album from our favorite artist 0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:07.200 every year and a half or two, I'm that's I'm good. Yeah, 0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:10.280 So now your favorite artists gotta be super active because 0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:13.600 you got it on your phone and yeah, now that's 0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:15.759 some real ship and some real ship. We shifted the 0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:19.200 game with that. So yeah, dog, I'm down to write books. 0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:22.000 You know. I started on a book I had. Actually 0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:26.240 we have this mini series called Foreclosure. Me and Joel 0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:30.040 that's you know that we're advertising the album, how we're 0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:33.959 rolling out the album, right, And that that actually comes 0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:36.439 from a book title because I actually wrote a book 0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:39.200 about Starterous. He wrote a whole book, but I ain't 0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:41.960 finish it, but I got I got hella chapters. It's 0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:45.120 dope too. It's it's really dope. It's a dope ass book. Man. 0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:48.520 It talks about you know, how it all was in 0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:51.840 the beginning, and and and and the the creative process. 0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:54.040 It's just really dope. I just never I haven't finished it. 0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:56.000 But it was called Foreclosure, you know what I'm saying. 0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:58.680 So this is something that's always been on my mind, 0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:01.360 Like you know this, this is something that I needed. 0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:03.920 I needed to get out there and you know, I 0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:06.839 needed that therapy. I needed that medicine. I needed group 0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:09.160 therapy with the fans, the ones who built it with us. 0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:11.560 I needed to tell him what was going on and 0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:14.800 hear feedback. I'm not always right, you know what I'm saying. 0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:18.319 I'm open to the feedback, but you know, just don't 0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:21.600 don't try to don't try to assassinate my character by 0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:23.919 saying that I'm lying about something, because I'm not lying 0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:26.320 about anything. Every time I speak, I want the truth 0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:29.080 to come out. I'm not lying about nothing. There's nothing 0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:31.120 that I've said so far that's false. You know what 0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:32.680 I'm saying. I said that I brought a deal to 0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:34.600 the table. I did. I said that Joe didn't want 0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:36.439 to do it. He didn't. I said that Royce didn't 0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:38.080 want to do the three man group. He didn't want 0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:40.319 to do the three man group. I haven't told one 0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:42.560 lie yet. I don't understand how they can call me 0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:46.480 a liar. Does this album permanently fracture your relationship with Royce? 0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:51.160 In my mind it shouldn't. But you know what I'm saying. 0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:53.000 All I could do is speak for myself. I just 0:50:53.040 --> 0:50:55.560 think of his IG post, you know, like what he said, 0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:58.719 any ig post. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like, 0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:02.560 you know, in my mind, No, it shouldn't, you know 0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:04.880 what I'm saying. In my mind, it shouldn't. You know 0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:11.239 what I mean, because I got love for Royce. You know, 0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:16.520 me and Royce have similar beliefs. You know, we live 0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:18.719 by a similar code. You know what I'm saying. So 0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:22.480 it's like I got love for Royce, no doubt. But 0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:25.799 this is something that had to happen, and you know, 0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:30.600 if he wants to continue to wrap do business with Joe, 0:51:31.480 --> 0:51:33.919 you know, that's great, you know, And I'm just saying, yo, bro, 0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:35.640 I had to get off that bus. I can't. I 0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:37.359 can't be on the bus no more with that. That's 0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:41.920 it's a wrap on that. How close was the reunion 0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.799 on the West Side gun Ship from happening? Like, how 0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:47.760 close was that actually going to transpire? Because it seemed 0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:50.400 like everyone was like was everyone on board to do 0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:53.080 that for for Gun? Like? How close? Like like how 0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:56.000 far did those discussions get? Because I think if there's 0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:58.399 anyone who embodies the energy you guys had, it's it's 0:51:58.400 --> 0:52:01.440 Griselda right now. Well, they said that they were going 0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:04.480 to do it, but it became one of those slaughter 0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:08.759 house things. You know, nobody, nobody ended up turning in 0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:12.120 what they had to turn in. And I think I 0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:16.279 think Gun changed his mind or something, and he ended 0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:18.279 up using the same beat that we all got. He 0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:22.359 used that song with us for our Money, Caesar, him 0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:24.919 and Miney Caesar did a joint on there, and once 0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:28.200 that floated out, I threw my verse out as a freestyle, 0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:31.080 and I told my fans and supporters you know, this 0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:33.120 was supposed this was supposed to be to Griselle, the 0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:35.279 joint that we were all gonna do at Slaughterhouse. But 0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:38.440 you know, once again, as soon as they asked me 0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:41.479 to rap I rap, I was, I had a joint 0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:43.719 on there, you know what I'm saying. And it was 0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:46.040 funny when Roy said that because my my fans and 0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:48.480 supporters were in the comments, like, dog, we've been knowing 0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:50.640 that that ship wasn't gonna happen. He was. You know, 0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:54.120 you're pretty transparent with I'm super transparent now now that 0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:57.440 I'm on Discord on Discord at the Discord. Yeah, now 0:52:57.440 --> 0:52:59.799 that I'm on Discord lip, Yeah, it's lit. I got 0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:02.000 the I got the Chris Corner server over there, and 0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:04.680 we we inside our chat room talking all kinds of 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:06.160 ship to each other, you know what I mean, Like 0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:09.359 we we talk about everything man and and and and 0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:12.480 that's I think that's what separates me from you know 0:53:13.239 --> 0:53:15.120 a lot of people out here, is that we're not 0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:17.920 We're we're on equal footing man with with people who 0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:20.360 support us. Man, unless some people think they rap stars 0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:22.399 and ship and they think they too good to talk 0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:24.439 to people, you know what I mean, even too good 0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:27.120 to return phone calls. But I ain't. You're not that guy. 0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:29.239 I you go do that? Yeah, I'm not that guy. 0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:35.239 This album coming out, your guys, the second album together 0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:38.239 just Hewling and Joel. Is this, uh, something you guys 0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:41.319 are gonna continue obviously the next if you guys do. 0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:44.239 I'm assuming not every album is gonna be based on 0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:47.680 mur Rising Falls Slaughter at all, because the first one wasn't. 0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:50.480 But is this something you guys are gonna keep on 0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:53.040 doing or just yeah? I think me and Joel might 0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:55.359 make another one. I'm not sure. I don't want to really, 0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:58.239 you know, I don't know. But when we did the 0:53:58.280 --> 0:54:01.759 first one, the pandemic just I was in New York. 0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:03.640 We did it Rest in Peace, Fred to God's Son. 0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:06.680 He was He was in every session with us, and 0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:09.640 the pandemic had just hit. So after we I came 0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:13.439 back home, it was very hard to move around because 0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:16.040 the country this was something new to us. People quarantine 0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:18.920 early on. It was impossible. It was impossible, so we 0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:21.200 couldn't really roll the album out like we wanted to. So, 0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:24.560 you know, we took this opportunity to be able to really, 0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:27.040 you know, put our vision out there and show people 0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:29.480 that you know what we do. I mean, shout out 0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:31.960 to my man, Herb, the our true team, our visual 0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:34.480 our visual game ain't playing either for sure, you know 0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:37.160 what I'm saying. So it's like, you know, we we 0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:40.120 have a great team, you know, in place to do 0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:42.120 whatever we want to do. If if he wants to, 0:54:42.920 --> 0:54:45.080 we could do some more music, you know, if not, 0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:47.560 I feel it, you know what I mean. But I'm 0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:50.919 definitely after I'm finished with this album, the retirement, Yeah, 0:54:50.920 --> 0:54:53.879 after I'm done with that. You know, I'm I'm transitioning, man, 0:54:53.920 --> 0:54:55.759 you know what I'm saying. I'm transitioning, but I'm gonna 0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:59.200 leave with a bang, like like this last album, the 0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:02.200 first four joint it's just ridiculous. So I'm like, yo, 0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:03.960 I'm gonna make sure I get out of here and 0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:06.759 say something, you know, the right way, the right way, Yes, sir. 0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:11.600 How's your current relationship with m That's good? You like, 0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:13.319 I feel like if you have a retirement album, I 0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:16.480 feel like Eminem kind of has to be onder. Hey man, 0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:19.280 come on, Marshall. Man, you know I'm getting out of here. Baby, 0:55:20.239 --> 0:55:23.160 I'm just saying it's gonna happen. You know, this is 0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:25.880 the last I talk to him about it. He was like, Man, 0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:30.279 don't retire because he ain't. Because he ain't, you know 0:55:30.320 --> 0:55:33.200 what I'm saying. But I mean, and that dude has 0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:36.160 a hard job, boy, because he's a word smith. He 0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:38.040 gotta go in there every time and try to top 0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:40.600 that last one. You know what I'm saying that that's 0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:43.360 that's what he does. Though he's a gunner. Somebody like 0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:47.000 Ross who kind of used the same blueprint in terms 0:55:47.040 --> 0:55:48.439 of like what you were doing in the early blog 0:55:48.520 --> 0:55:50.160 days to kind of get on just dropping the record 0:55:50.160 --> 0:55:53.640 every week, reaches out to you, get you on the 0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:58.480 chomp ep the first one Stockholm Syndrome. We I mean 0:55:58.480 --> 0:56:01.399 because Russ, I think what he's done with these two 0:56:01.480 --> 0:56:07.560 Chop projects is like pretty special because like, if you 0:56:07.600 --> 0:56:11.200 didn't know better, you would be very surprised to hear Russ, 0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:13.840 who's known for his melodies, and you know he'd be 0:56:13.880 --> 0:56:16.280 saying some fly ship popping and ship but he's really 0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:19.200 throwing punges with the best of the best of these 0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:21.480 two projects. What was that like, like him reaching out 0:56:21.480 --> 0:56:23.600 to you, did he just slide you in the DM 0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:25.399 or yeah, he just hit me on he just hit 0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:27.800 me online? Because you know, we always in the trenches. 0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:30.120 He see me, and a lot of times his name 0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:32.319 used to pop up in my timeline. People be like, yo, 0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:33.960 what do you think of Russ all this? And I'm like, yo, 0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:35.759 I like Russ. You know, Russ is out there doing 0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:38.480 this independent thing. You know, he's giving jewels the up 0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:41.480 and coming artists and lots of jewels. I fuck with Russ, 0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:43.239 so you know, he hit me up and he's like, 0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:45.120 would I do it? I was like, shit, that's nothing, 0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:46.880 you know what I mean, sent it back to him. 0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:48.560 He's like, yo, you killed that shit. I was like, 0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:50.799 you're looking, bro, It's all good, you know. So it's 0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:54.239 real easy. I'm very easy to work with, and I 0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:56.239 liked I liked that kind of environment. I like that 0:56:56.600 --> 0:56:58.600 people who are easy to work with. I like to 0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:01.920 be in good native environments where it's not a lot 0:57:01.960 --> 0:57:05.080 of you know, head button and some people like that 0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:07.880 because that's sometimes that brings out some of the best music, 0:57:08.400 --> 0:57:11.759 you know, super challenges and adversity and all that type 0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:13.080 of shit. But I don't like that. I like the 0:57:13.120 --> 0:57:15.120 good workflow, you know what I'm saying. I had that 0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:16.840 as a as a fucking kid. I've been in the 0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:19.200 game a long time you've been I'm too old for 0:57:19.240 --> 0:57:21.600 all that ship now. I like the Google environment, you know, 0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:23.840 just out of bean bag over here, you chilling you 0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:26.520 sip and lemonade over there? Yo? Pull it beat the alright, cool, 0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:30.080 let's get it cracking. None of that other ship before 0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:31.960 we get out of here. Obviously, the album. By the 0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:33.880 time this comes out, the album will be out. Yeah, 0:57:34.040 --> 0:57:36.720 go get the album. Yes, go run it up, run 0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:39.680 it up. I'm sure is there going to be merch. 0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:43.320 There's merch available, you know, the merch the pre orders 0:57:43.400 --> 0:57:45.480 is looking nice. You know what I'm saying. Run up 0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:51.080 the merch, run up. Maybe a book coming soon, Tireman album. 0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:54.479 What's up with the Horseshoe Gang? Yo? The Shoe Gang man? 0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:58.600 Like am he really loved him too? And you know, uh, 0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:01.880 is everyone Horseshoe Gang related to you? Yeah? That's my 0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:06.040 little brothers. Okay, yeah, yeah, they they masters that They're incredible, 0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:08.720 and you know, they're starting to turn the corner. A 0:58:08.760 --> 0:58:11.280 lot of people are giving them other people want to 0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:14.600 work with them. You know, some super producers want to 0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:16.360 work with them now, so we we we in the 0:58:16.400 --> 0:58:18.760 mix with that right now. Also shout out to Uh. 0:58:18.880 --> 0:58:21.200 I want to shout out Raz Cast's sons because they're 0:58:21.200 --> 0:58:25.120 in a group called Post Contra. I'm trying to get 0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:26.920 them on the show. They they've been opening up on 0:58:26.960 --> 0:58:32.640 the cord A tour. Yeah, they're fucking crazy to those guys. 0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:34.960 I just saw one of their freestyles pop up on 0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:36.720 my ship and I was like, oh my god, who 0:58:36.720 --> 0:58:39.080 are these kids? Yeah? Yeah, them kids dope. And I 0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:41.160 didn't even know I'd reached out d M. And then 0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:43.360 like I saw Raz like repost them and I was like, 0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:45.960 oh shit, those are his sons. The twins are his boys. 0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:48.640 Like that ship is crazy. I love it. Hey, listen, man, 0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:51.680 hip hop is aging, so we're able to see things 0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:56.120 we never seen before. It's a new genre of music, 0:58:56.240 --> 0:59:00.400 relatively new, so we've never got to see the lineage. 0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:02.480 Then we had Chris Rivers sitting right here like a 0:59:02.480 --> 0:59:05.520 couple of weeks ago, and man, that motherfucker went crazy. 0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:07.440 Yeah that's what I'm saying, Chris Rivers, you know what 0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:09.680 I mean, Like, you know, it's just it's dope to 0:59:09.720 --> 0:59:12.680 see the growth. Man, everything is dope. But yeah, well look, man, 0:59:12.680 --> 0:59:14.720 I appreciate you pulling up and giving us some context 0:59:14.760 --> 0:59:16.560 on what the fuck is going on? Yeah, man, you 0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:18.400 know they throwing darts at me, keV. You know what 0:59:18.440 --> 0:59:19.920 I'm saying. I had to come in and set the 0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:22.640 record straight, real quick list. I think it's just important 0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:26.600 to get all of the context, you know, to get 0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:29.760 as much of your side of what's going on. And 0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:32.200 you know, I think that that was a big thing 0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:34.480 that was missed about. You know, some of the headlines 0:59:34.480 --> 0:59:36.000 that were made off of that IG live was you 0:59:36.040 --> 0:59:38.360 really weren't able to speak. I wasn't able to speak, 0:59:38.440 --> 0:59:39.880 you know. I tried to get in there, so I 0:59:39.920 --> 0:59:42.320 did my own live, you know what I mean. And 0:59:42.360 --> 0:59:44.920 you know, I talk to the people myself. But you know, 0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:47.360 it's it's all good. Like like I said, dog, it's 0:59:47.440 --> 0:59:49.880 just getting it out there. The story is out there, 0:59:51.120 --> 0:59:54.680 the fans are getting closure. Leave the slaughterhouse questions behind 0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:58.960 after just go press play for all the fucking questions. Yeah, 0:59:59.000 --> 1:00:00.800 that's all y'all got to do, man, And you'd be 1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:02.160 all right with me, you know what I mean. Here 1:00:02.240 --> 1:00:04.680 it is man, King Crook Crooked. I appreciate you pulling out. 1:00:04.920 --> 1:00:06.800 Thanks for having me. Hey, shout out your YouTube channel 1:00:06.840 --> 1:00:09.080 that you that you know Brooks Corner, Come to Crook's Corner, 1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:10.640 Come mess with me. Man, We've got a lot of 1:00:11.120 --> 1:00:12.760 content over there's beautiful boom