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Speaker 1: Welcome. You are now listening to the Professional Professional. Hey guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome to this week's episode of the PSD podcast. Is

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Speaker 1: Your Girl Ever Night? And I'm super excited about this

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Speaker 1: week's episode. Um, before we begin, please make sure to

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Speaker 1: follow me at the Professional Home Girl, at the PSD podcast,

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Speaker 1: and last but Night at least at Name Beauty. Please

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Speaker 1: keep in mind that all of my guests are anonymous.

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Speaker 1: So let's begin this week's episode. So, I am super

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Speaker 1: excited about interviewing my this week. She is a successful,

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Speaker 1: well helped webcam model and I thought it was so

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Speaker 1: funny because you really gave me a Google number, not

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Speaker 1: your real number. Interviews. Well, I wasn't sure. You never know,

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Speaker 1: you know, like these guys to be sneak. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, girl, if you don't give me a real number,

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Speaker 1: well that's why I told you. I was like, maybe

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Speaker 1: I should tell her, I don't know what she's gonna

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Speaker 1: do with this number, and she might be real. So

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Speaker 1: I feel like you have lived at pretty or you

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Speaker 1: are living a pretty colorful life. And I'm not just

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Speaker 1: saying that because you are a successful welcome model, but

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Speaker 1: because I feel like you have so many you have

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Speaker 1: had so many transitions in your life. So I did

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Speaker 1: my research turning you. I watched helple of your videos.

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Speaker 1: I went on your website and you have over a

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Speaker 1: hundred thousands of views. That's either starw on your YouTube page,

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Speaker 1: on pouring hub videos, backpage content, and just your date

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Speaker 1: one clients and people who just really love your brand.

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Speaker 1: So the reason why I'm saying is because, uh, I

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Speaker 1: get the vibe that you're a very spiritual person. I

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Speaker 1: can kind of get that feeling from you. Now, how

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Speaker 1: do you stay grounded through it all? Um? I actually

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Speaker 1: started a movement called in her Agriculture, and it's kind

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Speaker 1: of basically the way I lived my life, like when

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Speaker 1: I based my life off of and it kind of

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Speaker 1: took the place of quote unquote religion. So it's it's

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Speaker 1: kind of like my own if you will. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: at the age of three, you shared that you saw

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Speaker 1: a show of a woman stripping and you were somewhere

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Speaker 1: fascinated by it. Yeah, why was that? I was? You know,

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Speaker 1: she just looked like she was having so much fun.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, I'm kind of like a

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Speaker 1: nutice by nature, if you will, Like, I just don't

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Speaker 1: really like prefer clothes and um, so she had on like,

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Speaker 1: just like danced around and maybe she was like spin

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Speaker 1: on polar something. It just looked fun. I'm gonna be that.

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Speaker 1: Plus I love to dance. I mean, dancing is like

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Speaker 1: in my genetics. So it's like the two combined that things.

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Speaker 1: What made me like like, oh, so fast forward to

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Speaker 1: third grade and I literally watched like most of your videos.

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Speaker 1: So fast forward to third grade. You're giving your parents

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Speaker 1: massages and that kind of sparked the interest and you

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Speaker 1: become a massage therapist. What made you interested in that? Um?

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Speaker 1: I think it's just a natural thing. Um, some people

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Speaker 1: have it, some people don't. Then the nature to want

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Speaker 1: to heal something. I was gonna say that. You did

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Speaker 1: say you feel like you're a healer. Yes, I am

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Speaker 1: a healer. I've healed animals, children, I worked for hospice.

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Speaker 1: Um I yeah. And then of course the regular spaw

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Speaker 1: environment and so on and so forth. So yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: schools for massage therapy. How was that experience? And then

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Speaker 1: was looking for a job. I'm somewhat of like I

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Speaker 1: long it's gonna take me to do this job until

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Speaker 1: I actually make my Greig break quote unquote right. So

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I need something that I would love to do,

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Speaker 1: a central massage therapist. Why do you think there's always

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Speaker 1: negative connotation negative connotations with massages massages? Because I don't

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say a lot of people look down I

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Speaker 1: So like, first of all, it's gonna be the most

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Speaker 1: since massage has ever created, it has always had a

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Speaker 1: know it's really good for this, but something like this

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Speaker 1: a happy ending. But this goes back to the beginning

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Speaker 1: of time, like but before America, so happy ending been

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Speaker 1: around since forever. Well yes, forever, and men's penises have

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Speaker 1: it was a mobile massage business. Yes, my very first

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Speaker 1: finishing my probation. It was just a very crazy transition

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Speaker 1: So um yeah, no, Yelp definitely works. Um. I found

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Speaker 1: Now this is this all happened before I discovered back page,

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Speaker 1: like green life or Holy life or whatever you wanna

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Speaker 1: call it. And so I was just ready to bust out.

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Speaker 1: I was just ready to just be out there, like

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Speaker 1: let me shake all this ship off and start over. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So before we continue with this week's episode because I

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the top. Like why her Kevi of Heart likes

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Speaker 1: to get lit now we I never saw him doing

443
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Speaker 1: anything like that. I know he definitely gets very drunk.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what else, maybe smoke some we I

445
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Speaker 1: don't think he really does that. Some people call it whatever.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that he does. I've never seen That's

447
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Speaker 1: what they call cocaine some people. I just learned that

448
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Speaker 1: last year. I'm like, what is that? And I'm like,

449
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Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm like I sell that stuff. I

450
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Speaker 1: didn't even know that. I'm telling you, girl, I'm still

451
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Speaker 1: learning stuff. Like you know, it just never gets old.

452
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Speaker 1: It's like what is that? Every day I'm like, what

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Speaker 1: is that? Wait? One thing I know is about you

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Speaker 1: is you constantly keep saying you said it setting videos

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Speaker 1: that you were so green, you were such a square?

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Speaker 1: Does it? Did it bother you? How? Like I guess

457
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Speaker 1: naive you were so well actually okay, so yes, um,

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Speaker 1: Because when I started burning off stuff with the moon

459
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Speaker 1: I did. That was the very first thing I wrote

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Speaker 1: down to burn off out of my life was naivety

461
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Speaker 1: so yes. But but I made myself live that life.

462
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Speaker 1: I chose that life on purpose because I was a

463
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Speaker 1: little bit certain to like just do what I wanted

464
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Speaker 1: to do and just kind of be buck wild, not

465
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Speaker 1: buck wild like my buck wild is different from other people.

466
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Speaker 1: But still, you know, I was kind of just I

467
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Speaker 1: needed some discipline. I needed a man in my life

468
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Speaker 1: or a friend in my life that was kind of like,

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Speaker 1: you know, square, because that's that's the way that work.

470
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Speaker 1: Like I don't need I'm crazy enough. I don't need

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Speaker 1: to my person that I'm with it, whether it's a

472
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Speaker 1: friend or a lover. I don't need them to be

473
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Speaker 1: booked wild like me. Yes exactly, So like I might

474
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Speaker 1: not be actually book by, but my spirit is book

475
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Speaker 1: while you know what I'm saying, like people to tell

476
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Speaker 1: they don't even know me, like girl, you look fun

477
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, why every time I

478
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Speaker 1: can't even just walk to the store. You know, I

479
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: can look any kind of way. People swear I'm just

480
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Speaker 1: turned up, and I'm like, well, I guess I am.

481
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Speaker 1: My spirit is for sure. But so yeah, I always

482
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Speaker 1: talked about how how you know my Basically it was

483
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Speaker 1: like I started over and I made myself super. It

484
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: was basically like you know how you can talk about

485
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Speaker 1: like oh, back in the day I used to do drugs,

486
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Speaker 1: you talk about drug days. This was literally like another

487
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Speaker 1: type of drugs. Like I went from drug days to

488
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Speaker 1: like super sober beyond without a doubt like phase. So like, um,

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Speaker 1: I've also been vegan before, and I've been I've done

490
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Speaker 1: so many things that I've done everything for like years

491
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Speaker 1: at a time. I don't do just like, yeah, I

492
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Speaker 1: changed my whole lifestyle around and you know, and as

493
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Speaker 1: long as it works, That's where I'm at. Until it

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Speaker 1: stopped working, and then I mean, right, I think that's

495
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Speaker 1: a good point you made. If you don't work anymore

496
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Speaker 1: or if it doesn't no longer serve you, let it go.

497
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Speaker 1: That's it, and that's what you have to do. And

498
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Speaker 1: that's like, that's what that whole burning stuff off is

499
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Speaker 1: like on the paper or whatever, like, Yeah, you write

500
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Speaker 1: down the stuf in your life that no longer serves

501
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: you any purpose, and you burn that ship. So once

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Speaker 1: you built your clientele from massage, how did you transition

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Speaker 1: into a webcam? Okay, so what happened with that was

504
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Speaker 1: so first of all, when I decided to start doing

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Speaker 1: the um it was after so it was after the

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Speaker 1: guy worked for, right, and then I was living with

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Speaker 1: that lady, So that's when I started doing the massage

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Speaker 1: stuff again. But then now at this point, I don't

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Speaker 1: have um a man and I don't want a man,

510
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Speaker 1: and like I got tired of dudes trying to talk

511
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Speaker 1: to me that I would meet and then like they

512
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Speaker 1: all just ended up the same and it was just

513
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Speaker 1: like pointless. And I was like, you know what, what

514
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: about this happy ending ship, because that would be good

515
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Speaker 1: for me. It'll like help me relieve some you know,

516
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Speaker 1: like I don't get I don't get horny, Like I'm

517
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Speaker 1: not one of those types of people. But I might ovulate,

518
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I ovulate once a month.

519
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Speaker 1: I might feel a little certain type of way. It

520
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: was like that will allow me to channel that energy.

521
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Speaker 1: Plus I'm always curious, like is really going on? Plus mat,

522
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: you'll have to make a whole lot of extra money.

523
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Speaker 1: Plus this is sounded like a good idea. I didn't,

524
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Speaker 1: but I didn't do it. Through back the age, I

525
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Speaker 1: started working at this spa um again, another place where

526
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: celebrities would come, low key like not gonna name those

527
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: people either, but it was like this fifty dollars for

528
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Speaker 1: an hour massage and we would get twenty five and

529
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Speaker 1: the spa will get twenty five. It was like the

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Speaker 1: bougie I don't even want to call it a rubbing

531
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Speaker 1: tug because it really wasn't. It was like one of

532
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Speaker 1: those places. So they have this thing called rub maps

533
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: that people can go on and they can actually look

534
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Speaker 1: it up and see, like what the rating is of

535
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Speaker 1: the girls in a spa, like if they grab your

536
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Speaker 1: penis or not? Like who does what's their name? Who

537
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: to asked for it's a whole like, yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: whole website. And so on that website. Um, that spat

539
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Speaker 1: that I was working at, we were actually not ranked

540
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Speaker 1: that high because none of the girls were like that.

541
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Speaker 1: We weren't like just in there like you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was like it was like no, like

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do this, like like some of the guys,

544
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Speaker 1: like I saw some of the guys in the comments

545
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Speaker 1: that you like, oh see y'all just don't know because

546
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: y'all don't go here like that. See us regulars, we

547
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: know what time it is because they trust us. You

548
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: have to build up a trust with them before they're

549
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: gonna do that for you. They're not gonna just do

550
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Speaker 1: that if you just come in a spat like that. Right,

551
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: It was like a different kind of It was like

552
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Speaker 1: a classy, trashy place, you know what I'm saying. Like

553
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: I always liked the best of the best, So yeah,

554
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: that's where. So that's where I I started there first,

555
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: and you know, and I made the first my first client.

556
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Speaker 1: Of course, I was like okay, here we go. And

557
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Speaker 1: I'm like I made him, Like I was like, okay,

558
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Speaker 1: so he about to ask me I know he's about

559
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: to ask me. In my life, ain't nobody ever asked me?

560
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Speaker 1: But I know because I let the wall down. I

561
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: noticed man and he asked me, and I said, all right, listen,

562
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: now you going out to help me with this? I

563
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell to do? But what did

564
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Speaker 1: he actually like? Little? Did? Um? So? First of all,

565
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: I get to be really careful with that. People tend

566
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Speaker 1: to not use exact words because it's very illegal. Oh

567
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: that's true. I learned that from another episode from Uh.

568
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: She was like, girl, yes, I know. People, You're right,

569
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Speaker 1: that's get some book wild questions. It's like, even if

570
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Speaker 1: the answers yes, you've totally ruined those chances. Yeah, that's

571
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: because if you because first of all, if that's all

572
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: that you're looking for, then no, that's not gonna work.

573
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: But if you know what I'm saying, if you're just

574
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Speaker 1: looking for a good session and you're hoping that it's

575
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Speaker 1: a really good match for you to see this therapist,

576
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: often like that's how you start to get like super

577
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Speaker 1: major amazing relationships like sugar daddies and stuff, and it

578
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: becomes really awesome. Then you know, it's like it's like

579
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Speaker 1: I used to treat backpage like tender because because I

580
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Speaker 1: was single and like majority of my clientele would be

581
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: would be between the ages of eighteen and twenty six,

582
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Speaker 1: they still are, um, so I couldn't really like so

583
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: it was like it was cool, Like I don't really

584
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: get a lot of guys asked me like come on,

585
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Speaker 1: like trying to pressure me into like, you know, giving

586
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: them happy end is. I usually can just convince them

587
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Speaker 1: to do it to themselves because they're young and they well,

588
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: they just they usually don't. The younger guys are not

589
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: usually in it because they need a hand job, right.

590
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: The older guys are because they need that affection. The

591
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: younger guys they're in it because they're curious. They're young men.

592
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Speaker 1: They want to get touched by real woman. They love

593
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Speaker 1: them a mill and they I mean, there's most young

594
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: men have a thought in their mind. They at least

595
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: want to like try like a massage, a stripper or

596
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: a prostitute at some point in their life. Most men

597
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: want to try something that they could pay for it.

598
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Speaker 1: That's a little bit freaky. So what the what's the

599
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Speaker 1: difference between porn and web panel? Okay, so porn um So,

600
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Speaker 1: first of all, pornography is like, um, usually intercourse is involved,

601
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Speaker 1: but I guess it doesn't have to because it could

602
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: be different things. But porn is like more professional, right,

603
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: So that's why they call it amateur porn um. But

604
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: originally like pornography was, you know, filmed um video, it

605
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: wasn't live webcamping is live broadcasting, so you can also

606
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: record that and then turn it into a video and

607
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: this sell that and it's kind of like amateur porn.

608
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: So were you nervous when you first started doing the videos?

609
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: Because I saw some of your videos and I thought

610
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Speaker 1: you was just doing like your welcoming. But then I

611
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: saw you on pub porn hub and I was like, oh, ship, okay,

612
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: it looks like it. Don't look like you're nervous, like

613
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Speaker 1: but I did see on porn Hub that you was

614
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: charging a fee to see certain videos, so um, for one, no,

615
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm an actress, so to me, you are funny as hell.

616
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: Well I'm I'm also a clown. My dad calls me

617
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: Lucy like I really can't help it, mum, But because

618
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm an actress. So what happened was whenever I decided,

619
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: when I started getting into this um, when I love

620
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: my husband. I started to living my best life and

621
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: being free and I could do whatever I want to do. Now.

622
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: I decidedn't want to start taking pole dance classes because

623
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Speaker 1: this girl that I was I had become really good

624
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: friends with and we were taking acting classes together. She

625
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: used to take pole and she teach pole and I

626
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, too bad. I can't do that.

627
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, there's no way my

628
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: husband's gonna let me sucking start pole dancing and ship,

629
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Speaker 1: Like when am I gonna tell the church? So like

630
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell the praise and Worship team, Sorry, guys,

631
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Speaker 1: I can't come on Tuesdays anymore. I've got pole dancing class.

632
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: So like. Um, so that was like one of the

633
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: things I wanted to get into. But then within that, um,

634
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: there were certain things that I need to conquer as

635
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: an actress. Um. One of those things was my acting

636
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: coach made me start going to karaoke. He was like,

637
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: you need singing. I'm like, I'm not a singer. Um,

638
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm a perfectionist. I think it's pointless for me to

639
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: go up there and try to just hold a tune.

640
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: I am singing back up to somebody or something. He's like, no,

641
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: you need to do this. You need to break free,

642
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: like you know, if you're having too much ego, you

643
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: need to just let that go. And I'm like, oh

644
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: my god. Whatever. So finally I did one day and

645
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: it really didn't change my game. So then, um, now

646
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of on my own. I'm not even

647
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: going to class nomore. I'm not. I'm just stopped everything

648
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: and I'm starting everything over. So I'm like, you know what,

649
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: I really what is the most like uncomfortable thing that

650
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: I can think of, like whether it's like modeling or acting,

651
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: and it's and it's the sexy thing. I used to

652
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: hate that and people would be like, oh, you're sexy

653
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: or they were like tell me, They're like, oh yeah,

654
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: like look sexy like that key. I don't know. As

655
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: soon as you say sexy, I freeze up. What the

656
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: fund did? I don't know what that means. But I

657
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: can't make myself be sexy. It's not my fault you

658
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: think I'm sexy. I'm not trying to be sexy. So

659
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: I can't emulate this thing that y'all are talking about.

660
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: So it was always like, well, what kind of actress

661
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: would you be, like what kind of roles would you play?

662
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: And it's like I need every role except for probably

663
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: a sexy role like I'm goofy, I'm silly, like that's

664
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: not that's not really my ship or whatever. So then

665
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: I made it my business to try to conquer that

666
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: in real life. And so then I are did the

667
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: pole dance classes, which really awakened a lot of my

668
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: feminine fluid movement. And then from there, um, I was

669
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: already doing the sensual massage stuff. So then it started

670
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: making me like like like I would like practice. I

671
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: would like practice like seducing my clients like certain ways

672
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: and like like just like without even touching them, you

673
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean, just like moving and then like

674
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: um and then some type of way. Um. I fast forward,

675
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: my little brother came to visit me. Vine had just

676
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: come out. He was like, you should get on Vine

677
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: and starts working. You'll get a whole lot of fans

678
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: real fast. My little brother was eighteen. I was like,

679
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: what wait, you don't care if I work on Vine?

680
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: He was like, what, no, and send me your fans.

681
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: I was like okay, like I don't even know too

682
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: many fans for but okay, I'm like, that's funny because

683
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: I started a whole second Instagram just to take like

684
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: pictures of me, like in my workout close like sports,

685
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: braw and pennies. That's when girls first started doing that

686
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: on Instagram and ship. And I was like, I started

687
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: a whole new one just because I didn't want you

688
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: to like see your gett embarrassed or like I didn't

689
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: care about my parents or nothing like that. He's like, no,

690
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm like, well shit, all right. So

691
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: I started working online. I started trying to be a

692
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: real strip but oh that's the other thing. I started

693
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: going to strip clubs and I would study strippers like

694
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: two three days a week. I was like, for like

695
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: a month straight. I would just go to strip clubs

696
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: like every like every other day, and I watched them

697
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: and I would just study them, and I was and

698
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: it's so funny here and j Low talk about the

699
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: Hustler movie. I'm like, bitch, been there, done that. I'm

700
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: still getting a T shirt. So anyway, so it just

701
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: kind of became like a thing. And so then I

702
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: started I was like, you know what, I want to

703
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: try to work at a real strip club. But I

704
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: needed a name to the first name I came up with,

705
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: it was kind of groofy. Then I was trying to

706
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: come up with another name just for like the backpage

707
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: thing and like having this other like persona because I

708
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: couldn't be my birth name anymore. That I met she

709
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: was like, girl, what you doing with your government name

710
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: on back page? But you crazy? So I had to

711
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: meet up a name. So I made up one name.

712
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: That name was like, then I make up another name.

713
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, we're getting better. And then I came

714
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: up with the name I have now. And then I

715
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: think I've made one or two more since then, and

716
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: it just became an addiction to like start creating these characters,

717
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: these alter egos, right, So, um, I created this one

718
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: and that's kind of like that was So that's where

719
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: this character started online. So that's how come I was

720
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: so comfortable, um with myself because I don't look at

721
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: it like I'm actually trying to be sexy. It's like

722
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm actually just acting like I'm sexy and it works.

723
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: So I know it. When you webcam, I know, like

724
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: what is involving because I know you polled, as I

725
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: know you stripped, Like what else do you do, I

726
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: mean for me personally, or you mean on like on

727
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: the website in general, Well, just you personally, just me personally.

728
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: Um so I rant, I rave, I lecture, I cook,

729
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: I clean, I make my bed, I do my makeup,

730
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: I do my hair, and you have clients to pay close. Well,

731
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: I have an observatory yet, so like you cound title

732
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: your room whatever you want to, and if you're having

733
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: a come show, you're gonna title league, you know, come

734
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: show you're having this or that. Mine's usually just an observatory.

735
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: I do have days where I do have certain shows though,

736
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: where I dressed up in theme and I come on

737
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: camera's hair and make up ready, you know, and that's

738
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: where I'm like got the music playing and I got

739
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: the pole popping or um you know. Or I'm on

740
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: the couch and like we're doing like whatever the theme is.

741
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: I'll do that sometimes, but for the most part, it's

742
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: just an observatory because I'm usually trying to kill three

743
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: in foe birds with one stone, because because I do

744
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: everything myself, and it's really hard to like it's a lot, yeah,

745
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: because it's a lot of hours you after broadcast to

746
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: make the kind of money I need to do the

747
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: things that I need to do, which also why I

748
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: started got got back into massagy again. So I was

749
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: about to ask you about that. So webcam and I

750
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: look into business for you right now or just in general. Yes,

751
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: webcamming pays all my bills, but that's good. Yes, but

752
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: I have big I have bigger goals than that. I am.

753
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,959
Speaker 1: Just paying my bills does not make me move forward faster. Yeah,

754
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: I need to get equipment. I need to get you know,

755
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: there's just there's a lot of mostly equipment stuff is

756
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: what I need to get. An equipment is very expensive

757
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: because I know one video you was you I can

758
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: tell that you was tired, but you still look really good.

759
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: And he was just saying, how like you've literally been

760
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: up all day? Is I think you finished like around

761
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: two or three o'clock and you freshen up and it

762
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: was morning time. Yeah, something I do. I do pull

763
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: twenty four hours sometimes I work in where between twelve

764
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: and eighteen hours a day. Wow, that's fun. But it's

765
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: your business. Yeah, it's my baby. I mean, it's like

766
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: it's an infant. So if you have an infant, it's

767
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: gonna keep you up as long as it keeps you up. Yeah,

768
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: tell me about it. I got about two infants and

769
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: they keep me up in real life where you mean

770
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: like energyically, No, just that I have my podcast and

771
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: then I have my beauty company, ebone Beauty. And like

772
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: you said, like when you're trying to like and I

773
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: also have an out of five, so it's like I

774
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: haven't out of five. You have these two businesses, you

775
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: have a social life, you have yourself, you have your

776
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: family and friends. Like it's really hard trying to balance everything.

777
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: So I can I can imagine what you go through

778
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: because you do twelve eighteen hours or twelve to twenty

779
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: four hours of this. Yes, And I really just tried to, like,

780
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, make people leave me alone. I'm always like,

781
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: leave me alone and go away, Like if if it

782
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 1: wasn't for this, Like I don't leave my like where

783
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: I live. I live in a like I walk everywhere, right,

784
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: so like everything in here, movie theater, clubs, restaurants. Yeah,

785
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: where you live. From a little glimpses, I sorry, looked

786
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: really nice. So I know you have big girl bills. Yeah, yeah,

787
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: well not in the city I live in now. It's

788
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: not like it was in l A. You know, what

789
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: the same thing, thinking, that's that's kind of why I

790
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: left l A. But um, yeah, so it's a yeah,

791
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's an upper middle class area,

792
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: but it's not the most most most or anything like that.

793
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: But it's very very convenient for me. I don't like

794
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: to drive, as you know. Ever since that, um, ever

795
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: since I got in trouble with driving twice, I said,

796
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: you know what, I need to pick one either drinking

797
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: or driving. Driving drinking, I would have to drink. I

798
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: don't need to drive anyway. I'm addicted to freedom. And

799
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: so even before I was drinking, I used to get

800
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: in trouble for stealing cars when I was young, Like

801
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: I just love, I love, just like I wasn't going

802
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: on where it's going to? Like Taco ball? Where are

803
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: you going? And then also when you post your videos

804
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: on other third party sites, you also get a percentage

805
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: from that, right or you get pretty much all of it? Okay, good, yes, yeah,

806
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: pretty much all of it? Like um. On the other

807
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: side to child, you have some of my listeners looking

808
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: for looking to a new job venture, Well, that is

809
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: something I'm actually I'm designing a blueprint to for for

810
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: you know, people who it's not only just for the

811
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: sex industry. I'll start off with that one, but big

812
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: stically it could be applied to anything. So I'm in

813
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: the process of creating that kind of program now because

814
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: I definitely have a lot of I have a lot

815
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 1: of mentees if you will or whatever that's like, okay,

816
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: what nexis? I'm like, all right, hold on, baby baby

817
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: steps now. Um. So normally when I have episodes, I

818
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: always ask my listeners or viewers if they want to

819
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: ask for my guests a questions. One of the questions

820
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: that somebody wants to know is have you ever ran

821
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: into someone that noticed you from one of your videos? Yes,

822
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: I definitely, um run into people that know me um

823
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: all the time, and in Las Vegas some um in

824
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: Miami because you have a lot of viewers in d C. Yeah,

825
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: and I've been doing this for a long time though. Yeah,

826
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: Becauld you started with a no, no, no, no, no,

827
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: not not this heck, no, do you know how old

828
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: I am? No I am. I'm telling my just overall

829
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: from your clients when you first started beside and he

830
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you're talking about MS massage. Yeah, So

831
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm just saying over that time from people just knowing

832
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: your faith period and from your transition, you and your

833
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: late thirties. Oh oh yeah, no, yeah, I started a

834
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: massage in my twenties. But I think people recognize me

835
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: from mine, Like, so do they mean do massage planes

836
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: recognize me from me? But no, they mean do people, um,

837
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: from your wealcaming your videos on different types and stuff.

838
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 1: Do they recognize you just on the street right? Okay?

839
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I was just saying because like, if

840
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: you've just been doing this for so long as far

841
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: as like all together, so I'm pretty sure people even

842
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: typing your name if you've been wanting by your first

843
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: name or your your stage name, you pop up and

844
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: oh I've seen her before. Well all of this, yeah,

845
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: all of this has started like since about two thousand fourteen.

846
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: But but really two thousand fifteen, Okay, is it hard

847
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: for you to date right now? It's not hard for

848
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: me to date. I have a situation ship. Okay, yeah,

849
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: but um, I don't want to date. I don't need

850
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: to date. I don't crave to date. Uh, it doesn't

851
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: really benefit me. Um, but I didn't meet somebody we

852
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: did fall in love however, Well, no, that's the thing.

853
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: It's a um, it's a girl. Okay, we don't know

854
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,959
Speaker 1: what us no, no, yeah, no, we just we both

855
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: weren't trying to do that. You know. It was kind

856
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 1: of those things where I was like we were cool

857
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: and then we're like hey, it's like hey, well hey

858
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: remember right here, you know, heyy and it be something

859
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: like fun at night drunk thing, and then like we

860
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: just kind of like kept doing it every day all

861
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: day until it's like we're going to dinner and we're like,

862
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: I just got real gay real quick. I was like,

863
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, we are so gay. Like we would

864
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: always just laugh because neither one of us were before

865
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: Let's ends or anything, but we were both freaks like

866
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, but not like that. So yeah,

867
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 1: it kind of changed. But then also so she wants

868
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: to maybe have children one day and maybe a husband

869
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: or something like that, so we both decided it will

870
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: be best for her to kind of like, you know,

871
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: for us to not do that because we want to

872
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: keep that door open for her to have a little

873
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: normality if she wants in her life, and keep my

874
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: door open for me to continue focusing on my business

875
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: because when I get in a relationship like that my money,

876
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: like my weight went up and my money went down

877
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: like all the yeah, because it was like we were

878
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: just together like seven like, so I wasn't really working,

879
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: Like yeah, that's sad because I, yes, I just don't.

880
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: I do better with long distance relationships or we just

881
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: have restraint. But we've developed enough now to where we

882
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: only hang out like maybe twice somebody. We live in

883
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: the same apartments, but uh yeah, but that's how we met.

884
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: So she's been here the whole time. But you know,

885
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: so I run into her of course, and we talk

886
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: and we text and we hang out, but we just

887
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: do it on a much different skill than us being

888
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: completely just like obsessed with each other seven Like you know,

889
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: it got to the point where she was like really

890
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: upset because she couldn't have my kids. So that's how like,

891
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, it was. It's just hard to explain when

892
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: we fall in love with like the same sex and

893
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: you're not it's like, what's going on, Oh my god,

894
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: this is not supposed to happen. Like wow, Okay, so

895
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: you've been in the industry for a couple of years,

896
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: now what's next for you? So basically other than um,

897
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm using all my expertise to um branch out and

898
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: help others. I'm starting a nonprofit. UM it's gonna be

899
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: to help um, like domestic violence, women and children, and

900
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: then like you know, sex trafficking, UM, you know all that,

901
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: all that good old guys. UM. I'm not sure all

902
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: which what how far and deep it will go or

903
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: will I be very niche and kind of specific with it.

904
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: I don't know yet because I need to look into

905
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: So that's like the next kind of blueprint I'm setting

906
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: up for as far as direct outreach in like my

907
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: local community. And then I'm also about to start doing

908
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: UM so I'm gonna start getting more into like the

909
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: musical side of ship. And I'm about to start a

910
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: talent show here local and I'm working with the producer,

911
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: and I'm about to start making some mixtapes and then

912
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna go on a tour. And I mean, uh yeah,

913
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: we have like all this, all this stuff. And then

914
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: plus I have all my content I'm creating, and I'm

915
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: in a process of shifting everything to where I can

916
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: actually have an only fans because I was debating for

917
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: so long like should I get one? But everybody has

918
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: one now and now I know some girls that have

919
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: one and they make so much money. I'm like, it

920
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: would be easier if I just put everything over there

921
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: instead of spurging it out over here and over here

922
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: and over here and over here. So um, I'm also

923
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: working on that next and um yeah, just growing my

924
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: YouTube channel of course, that's I mean, that's a lot

925
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: of work because it's a lot of editing. So um,

926
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: and I'm starting a podect yes, yes, I'm starting my podcast, um,

927
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: and that will be on my YouTube channel and also

928
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: you know, on the podcast at the same time. So

929
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: that's why I need some more equipment because um, you know,

930
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 1: I want to have guests and and so I'm gonna

931
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: get an office, probably like across the street. And I

932
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: decided I'm gonna actually just set up a whole little

933
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: set and be able to rent it out to other

934
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: people because there's a lot of those locally that want

935
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: to do stuff like this in our podcasts and things,

936
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: so I can let them borrow my equipment. I'm not

937
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: written the space. I'm written my equipment in the space,

938
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Yeah, and you're still making money

939
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: off of it, so that's even better. Yes, yes, exactly,

940
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: so yeah, just basically networking everybody together and creating content still.

941
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, like you know I do my own website,

942
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: is that I do everything, So it's like I have

943
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: a lot on my plate. But but you're doing a

944
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: great job. I mean it looks really good. Thank you.

945
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: It's it's a lot of it's sitting at a stand still,

946
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: to be honest. But it was just like, what are

947
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: they called placeholders? If you will? You know what I mean?

948
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: Like it's like I kind of just set stuff up

949
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: and it's like I haven't talked my website forever. Yeah,

950
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: I was about to ask you about that because I

951
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: know if you have an update your website. I think

952
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: the last post I read was from I'm telling you

953
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 1: I started it and then I just let it sit

954
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: there and collect does I've adjusted it like maybe three

955
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: more times maybe before since I ever created it. And um,

956
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: those blogs are really though. I definitely haven' written any

957
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: blogs because I write in my real journal in real life,

958
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: so I always just type it up whenever I want

959
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: to put everything on your website, So everything could be

960
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: your direct contact, get website, the podcast, or linked to

961
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: your YouTube page. Yeah, exactly what I have links to

962
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: everything but my YouTube page that was um that was updated.

963
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about updated down yet. I have all

964
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: the links to like on my Twitter and my Instagram

965
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: and my Facebook and my um uh let me on

966
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: the and then like my webcam modeling day. You know,

967
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: I have all this stuff on there, but um just

968
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: need to make it a little bit less ambiguous. I

969
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: liked it. Like that effort. That was a part of

970
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: my whole theme. I still did this day. Get people

971
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: that are like, okay, so but yeah, because you're not

972
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: to say that you where when you first started. Oh no, yeah,

973
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: so you definitely have to update it. Oh no, yeah,

974
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: but it's like but I don't even send people there,

975
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: so it doesn't matter to me. It's just a placeholder.

976
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: It's just sitting there just just like it's like an example,

977
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Instead of having a landing

978
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: site that says coming soon, I'd rather have a landing

979
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: site that's just kind of like old stuff, so at

980
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: least you can see where I was because when I flipped, Yeah, exactly.

981
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: So I don't mind it sitting there just like that.

982
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: Like it's it's because most people don't go there anyway.

983
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: If I had a tippy on there every day. That's

984
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: the only reason why people go. If you don't have anything,

985
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: they're not gonna go anyway. So there's really That's what

986
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: I realized. There's no point in me trying to like

987
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: update it and stuff if I'm not gonna update it

988
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: on a daily basis or on a weekly basis or

989
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: something like that. So last, but not least, would you

990
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: do it all over a year if you could? You

991
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: can't get me to stop? Are you kidding me? Like

992
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: you haven't unaddicted to my lifestyle, and I'm addicted to

993
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: being able to help other women. I realized the whole

994
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: reason why I got in this game is because I

995
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: like to cape for hose. I realized that I always

996
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: had a stigma about me for some reason. My whole life.

997
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 1: People always thought I was a home or they thought

998
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: I was fast, or they thought I was you know

999
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: what I mean, a freak and all that, and I

1000
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: never was any of those things. And he used to

1001
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: bother me. But then like the inside part of me

1002
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: that was like, well, why are you bothered by that?

1003
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: Like there are girls that are like that, but are

1004
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: you gonna look down on them? And I'm like well no,

1005
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: it's like, well, why are you having a problem with

1006
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: people assuming that you are that even though you're not so.

1007
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: Then I started getting pissed for the bitches that were so.

1008
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: Then I wanted to be uh yo, that's some real

1009
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: ship though, because I had somebody like that when I

1010
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: was growing up. She was like my teacher, and she

1011
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: thought I was so fast so this and that mess

1012
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: with all the boys, I wasn't doing ship and everybody

1013
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: who she thought was um innocent and I feel like

1014
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: push judgment or anything on that. But now they have kids,

1015
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: they struggling this and that, and I was like, and

1016
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: when she seen me, she couldn't even say nothing that.

1017
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: And I used to always be like, remember what you

1018
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: said about me? Exactly exactly. There was boys, moms, there

1019
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: was teachers, there's people in church. It's always it's coming

1020
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: from a woman from grown as adults, and I'm like,

1021
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Like, But that's how I

1022
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: learned about self projection. As I got older in life,

1023
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: I realized, oh, it's just self projection. You're trying to

1024
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: project your fast as on me work. But in the

1025
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: meantime and between times, I found a love for holes

1026
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: because I felt like it was an insult to be

1027
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: called one, but I didn't think that it was, so

1028
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: I had to. I wanted to do something to where

1029
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: women could feel like they could have somebody to talk

1030
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: to about it and have a resource of like if

1031
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: they want to change their lifestyle, okay, But also, if

1032
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: you're in this lifestyle, you don't have to run it,

1033
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: like shout it out to the world. But don't be ashamed.

1034
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: That's the only thing I'm trying to tell, Like, if

1035
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a sex worker, the worst thing you

1036
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: could ever do is be ashamed of it because of

1037
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: the energy that you're working with is so real. It

1038
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: will haunt you and it will end up being a

1039
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: curse instead of a blessing. So if it's something that

1040
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: you can't do, you need to get the funk out.

1041
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: The industry is not for everybody. Mm hmmm, well listen,

1042
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: that's there you go. If y'all have any questions, any concerns, calmness,

1043
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: if you want to support my guests. I think she

1044
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 1: is amazing. Um. I feel like lately I've been really

1045
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: into um, the sex worker industry, the transgender community, and

1046
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: it's all about uplifting women, especially women of color, So

1047
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: please email me at hello at the professional home girl

1048
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: dot com any questions you have for her. I know

1049
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: she started her MANTI program, so I'm definitely gonna be

1050
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: in contact with her so we can get some advertisements going.

1051
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: Any email you have, I listening directly to her and

1052
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: until next time, guys later, thanks, You're welcome. Thank you.

1053
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: Oh