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Speaker 1: That's institutes all that's okay, becaus no one here is.

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Speaker 2: Hello friends, I'm Daniel Fischell, and it's time again for

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Speaker 2: teen Beat, a podcast where I interview interesting people who

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Speaker 2: have done interesting things in an attempt to uncover the

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Speaker 2: realities of their youth before the spotlight, because we know

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Speaker 2: our teenage years can act as a blueprint for who

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Speaker 2: we are today.

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Speaker 3: I am a perfect example of this.

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Speaker 2: I spent my entire youth playing a type a success

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Speaker 2: obsessed overachiever, and in turn.

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Speaker 3: I grew up to be Well, maybe I'm a little

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Speaker 3: too on the nose here. I see it this way.

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Speaker 3: I gave you my childhood.

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Speaker 2: It's time we hear yours, and this week I'm excited

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Speaker 2: to learn more about a band that not only helped

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Speaker 2: define every good mixtape I've ever made, they also helped

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Speaker 2: define my zip code. Born from the inspiration of punk

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Speaker 2: and ska, the band with.

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Speaker 3: The Worst and absolute best.

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Speaker 2: Name in music has sold a staggering total of ten

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Speaker 2: million albums worldwide. Their sophomore album, two thousand and three's

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Speaker 2: The Reason, has a title track that rivals the OC

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Speaker 2: Tony Hawk's pro Skater and Von Dutch as the most

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Speaker 2: peak why two K things I can reference? And now,

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Speaker 2: over thirty years since forming, six studio albums later, they've

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Speaker 2: released their first new song in eight years, How Do

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Speaker 2: You Sleep, a throwback to their punk roots, and I

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Speaker 2: for one love it. This week's teen Beat guest the

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Speaker 2: Pride of Ventura County's Border. It's Doug rob and Dan

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Speaker 3: Welcome, gentlemen, you're having us the Pride of County.

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Speaker 4: I was like, that's so accurate.

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Speaker 3: How does that border?

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Speaker 4: The Vinor County border is like up the street from

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Speaker 4: my house? Yes, so right?

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Speaker 3: Really right there?

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Speaker 4: Nailed it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pinpoint it to the to the location. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for coming on the show. A fair warning

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Speaker 2: up top. I am legally forced to start with eight

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Speaker 2: one eight talk whenever a fellow Valley kids are on

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Speaker 2: the podcast. So you are a Gora High School alumni, correct,

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Speaker 2: and I am a Calabasis graduate.

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Speaker 3: In some circles we might be considered.

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Speaker 4: Rivals, chargers, coyotes.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, but we can all agree that tearing down the

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Speaker 2: Agora Man eight was absolutely criminal.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: We just recently happened, right, and I drive by that

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Speaker 4: every day going to the gym. Yeah, and I still

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Speaker 4: look at it going, do you have? I had so

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Speaker 4: many memories there.

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Speaker 3: So many memories there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, pretty cool parking lot though, now is it?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the commons. They just tore down the theater in

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Speaker 4: Right. That being said, I'm not one of those guys

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Speaker 4: like totally. At some point when all this construction is done,

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Speaker 6: I do you remember we rode bikes through through the

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Speaker 6: out with like fourteen friends on bikes in Agora and

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Speaker 3: Movie were you guys straight edge?

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Speaker 5: We we didn't like clean it not yeah, not like.

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Speaker 4: We didn't wear it on our sleeves. You know, we

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Speaker 6: Just decided we got off on like going to these

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Speaker 5: Turning what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we we just pranked everybody.

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Speaker 2: That's a perfect prank because it's completely harmless, you know,

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Speaker 2: like it's a funny prank. Everyone suffers a little, but

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: That's really good calories.

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Speaker 4: Nobody suffers, nobody concern of their health.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I will get this out of the way.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Did you hang out at the Tapanga mal.

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Speaker 4: For pangam all nice? That's awesome. You know you have

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Speaker 6: Doug actually grew up in Agora and I grew up

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Speaker 6: I was at the Panga Mall back when they had

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was like in prior to that, I

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Speaker 4: It was everywhere and same with him, like I remember

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Speaker 4: going to the Topanga Plaza. Yep, you don't have a

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Speaker 4: little jingle for Topanga Plaza.

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Speaker 3: I will, We'll do it again.

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Speaker 4: With the ice skating rink, yeah, and the Orange Julius.

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Speaker 5: Now there was a big golf like was like a

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Speaker 6: Over where the village is on the corner of Victory

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Speaker 4: I saw Empire Strikes Back and Indiana Jones and the

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Speaker 3: I'm still devastated that the Rubies is gone.

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Speaker 5: Dude, wasn't I was talking about this in the.

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Speaker 4: Car just today. You were talking, we're talking about Rubies.

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Speaker 6: I had I had seen something recently on Instagram that

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Speaker 4: Your thing because you stopped eating red meat. And that

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Speaker 4: if we're going to go eat, it was Fatburger or Ruby.

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Speaker 6: So I went to Rubies when we would come home

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Speaker 5: Bit before that. I was there like three days a week.

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Speaker 5: I had their sweatshirt, Like I.

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Speaker 2: Still have my Ruby sweatshirt. I actually have art in

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Speaker 2: my house of Rubies on the pier.

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Speaker 5: Should be do be down at Rubies or something like that.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, And when I go to I'll go to Orange

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Speaker 6: County just to go eat at Rubi's same. And if

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Speaker 6: I shed a tear every.

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Speaker 5: Time I drive by.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, how could we not keep Rubies alive

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Speaker 2: in the valley? Like, I feel like we need to

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Speaker 2: do this back, maybe this podcast. If there's one thing

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Speaker 2: I want to be known for is bringing back at Rubies.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: One place I know you both also hung out was

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Speaker 2: the Cobalt Cafe, which was a now defunct music venue

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Speaker 2: Less than Jake and Yes Hohobastank. Tell me about the

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Speaker 2: Cobalt Cafe and what it meant to you as.

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Speaker 4: Teens, I think the honest answers. Back then, there was

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Speaker 4: there wasn't a lot of places to play semi locally,

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Speaker 4: to go down to the city. Yeah. And it's difficult

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Speaker 4: Let's just do it. It's a place to play. And

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Speaker 4: the shows themselves turned out to be so much that

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Speaker 6: Well, when we were going to when we were in

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Speaker 4: We would joke around with other bands, going, who's doing

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Speaker 6: But we just ended up needing places to play, and

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Speaker 6: we didn't really care where we played, and it was

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Speaker 4: And it was super cheap, you know. It was like

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Speaker 6: It was, you know, and we became friends with the owner, Dave,

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Speaker 6: who I'll talk to you still every once in a while,

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Speaker 6: and uh, yeah, it's a bummer that it's not out

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Speaker 6: there anymore. They still actually do Cobalt presents shows at

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Speaker 6: different locations throughout the valley now, but he had to

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Speaker 6: close it down I think during COVID or something like that,

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Speaker 6: and now it's like a flooring store because I go

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Speaker 6: to cabarett as the Sandwich at the time.

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Speaker 3: Love cavarettas. Gosh, you're missing out.

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Speaker 5: It's really good.

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Speaker 3: I'm not into the bread.

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Speaker 5: It's too hard. Yeah, I feel seen.

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Speaker 5: Used to used to work at cabarettas from what I've heard, Okay, and.

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Speaker 6: No, you're right right, And he shoots out.

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Speaker 4: The back exactly.

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Speaker 6: I would go to Cabarettas and they would just like, hey, Dan,

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Speaker 4: Like advice versa. Like from my perspective, I was, I

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Speaker 6: We were writing and coverings. But I just remember not

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Speaker 3: It was right. It wasn't it wasn't a competitive thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay. I was like, what is it your yearbook?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And it's cool. We run into those guys every

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I went to high school with those kids,

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Speaker 5: But but yeah, did.

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Speaker 6: We were just in Portugal doing a festival with them,

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Speaker 5: Yeah. But the last time I saw him was last year.

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Speaker 5: And it's cool.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Mike made us some beautiful art as a

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Speaker 3: Them on us. Rubis is on there, wu tang is

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Speaker 2: It's a it's quite a mashup, but it's it's very

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Speaker 4: Yes, the short answers, Yes, we ubis Tank was perfect

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Speaker 4: record deal offer, we didn't actually sign as Hoopsink. We

444
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 4: just signed as the individual members because it was kind

445
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 4: of like, all right, we have Yeah, we're a decent

446
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 4: We've we've spent the last five years, you know, building

447
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 4: up what we have. But now potentially it's going to

448
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 4: go Nash or global. Now's the time too, If we're

449
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 4: ever going to switch it, now's the time.

450
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: Did you guys think of that yourselves or did the

451
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 3: label say something to me?

452
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 4: I want to say, no, we we did smart. We're like, okay,

453
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 4: this is this is we've you know, time to shed

454
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 4: the baby teeth, you know. And then we we played

455
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 4: a show with the Whiskey and our and our guy

456
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 4: was at the show and at some point in the

457
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 4: show they were they were the audience was chanting who

458
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 4: stag show's over. So we're in the dressing room and

459
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 4: he comes up and he just, you guys, cannot change.

460
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: Don't even think about it.

461
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I remember even poopooing it. Then we're like, dude,

462
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 4: forget it now. We have this conversation later because it's done.

463
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 4: We're not we're changing the name, and though uh, that

464
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 4: never happened, we were convinced to keep the name, change

465
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 4: the spelling of it, but keep the pronunciation the same.

466
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 4: And yeah, like you said earlier, it's the worst and

467
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 4: best name ever.

468
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 6: It was never anything that we were super proud of.

469
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 6: It wasn't like we were like we got the name

470
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 6: the opposite and it still is the opposite. It's we

471
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 6: we realize how stupid it is. And I've always said

472
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 6: that it's Doug and I actually don't have any tattoos,

473
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 6: but it's kind of like your first tattoo that you

474
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 6: might regret, of course when you're lady.

475
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 2: I had a butterfly tramp stamp that was sitting pencil, Like, yeah,

476
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 2: I had it removed. I mean that kind you know, yes,

477
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 2: that that was my first tattoo.

478
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 4: That was like, if you're an our guy convinced you

479
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 4: to keep it.

480
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 3: I had no saying it.

481
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 6: So it's yeah, it's it's kind of like that, except

482
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 6: for we kept our tramp stamp and.

483
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 4: Exactly. But eventually, yeah, like eventually those armbands are going

484
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 4: to be cool again or if they're not for sure.

485
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 6: Some people think it's the coolest thing ever and it

486
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 6: makes the most sense, and others I think it's the

487
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 6: dumbest thing ever, and we're like, we get it, we

488
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 6: get how stupid it is. If you like it cool,

489
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 6: If you don't, we don't run.

490
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 4: It doesn't It's just a name. It's just a name.

491
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: Also, sometimes something salient is more important than something good,

492
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 2: like Topenga is the most salient name, maybe of any

493
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: TV character ever. And that doesn't necessarily mean that the

494
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 2: name Topanga for a person is great. But like I,

495
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 2: I will be known for the rest of my No

496
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 2: one will ever forget to Panga from boy me like

497
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: that show, Like that's.

498
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 5: So it how did that come about?

499
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: So we don't fully know, We don't know the true story.

500
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: Lots of different people have taken credit for it. The

501
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 2: most commonly told story, and certainly the funniest, is that

502
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: Michael Jacobs, the executive producer and showrunner was driving from

503
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: Hidden Hills to Burbank where we were shooting, and they

504
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: called and were like, we need a name for this character.

505
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: And he was at the one oh one in Topanga

506
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: and he looked up and said to Panga and said,

507
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: had they called me one minute later, she would have

508
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 2: been to Sodo.

509
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 4: Right, that's.

510
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: Tampa. So that's the story told. But there there have

511
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 2: been like four or five different people who said, that's

512
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: not true. I created the character. I came up with

513
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: the name.

514
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 4: I would say, don't trust those people.

515
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, just go with the decider.

516
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 4: I like the more like I saw it and that's it. Yeah,

517
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 4: the other ones like I created that, Yeah, create that.

518
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 2: The one thing I'll say is that Topanga was a

519
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: flower child. She had very hippie parents, Jedediah and Chloe.

520
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 2: Her father was a luthier, luthier luthier. And so the

521
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: idea that Topanga was started because Topega Canyon was a

522
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: hippie hangout is is what when people say, like it

523
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: was thought out for me, this character, this flower child,

524
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: what would her parents have named her? And they picked

525
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 2: a place where maybe she would have been conceived. That

526
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: was kind of other backstory.

527
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 6: So it's just coincidental that you were there in Calabasas,

528
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 6: going to Calabasas High School where to Panga Canyon was

529
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 6: right up the street.

530
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 3: Correct.

531
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 5: I always was like there there's a connection somewhere, you know.

532
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: No, that was just coincidental.

533
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: I was that I was cast as the person living

534
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: in Calabasas and that the Panga Mall was my mall.

535
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, very kismet. You know, like things just work out

536
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 3: the way they're supposed to.

537
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: Do you remember your worst early show, Like you guys

538
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: have formed a band and now you're going to go

539
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: perform somewhere and just it's terrible.

540
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: Oh are you always awesome?

541
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 4: No?

542
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 6: No, No, We've had a lot of horrible shows, I'm sure,

543
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 6: but some of those ended up, in hindsight, were probably

544
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 6: none of it matters.

545
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 4: I think horrible show is all it's.

546
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 5: All here, like Summerfest, which we call Yeah, like.

547
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 4: Is it horrible because there's nobody there? What if? What

548
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 4: if you performed beautifully for nobody? Does that make it

549
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 4: a bad show? I don't know, Like back then it

550
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 4: might have because it's all ego. I'm getting a little

551
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 4: too like uh deep about this. Yeah, Well, it's because

552
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 4: we've been doing it for so long. At some point

553
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 4: you have to you know, all all all shows are

554
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: not created equal. At some point you have to figure

555
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 4: out what it is that makes you comfortable, Like is

556
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: it how well you do or how well you feel

557
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 4: you've done. Did you sing well? Did you perform well?

558
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 4: Did you did the audience like it did they? Was

559
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 4: it large but unengaged? Was it small but totally locked in?

560
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 4: Like what do you prefer? And I think you just

561
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 4: have to take the wins from that. I was just thinking.

562
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 4: The first show that we did though that I felt

563
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 4: awkward was pretty early on. It was the show at

564
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 4: the Las Palmas Theater and that was only like our

565
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 4: second club show ever, Like we'd only done like house parties,

566
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 4: and we did a show at the Roxy, and I

567
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 4: think our second club show was at the Lost Palmas Theater.

568
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 4: And I remember thinking the show at the Roxy was awesome,

569
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: lots of people, like the bar was set. Yeah, And

570
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 4: then we go play this other show at a different

571
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 4: club not too like long after, and there was nobody there, right,

572
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 4: And I don't necessarily remember thinking like, God, this sucked,

573
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 4: but I I just when you said that, I was

574
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 4: like I remember going, oh, okay, it's not all it's

575
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 4: not all good.

576
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 6: Like I think one of the worst shows that we

577
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 6: had would have been in the height of everything, and

578
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 6: and it was when we did the MTV Music Awards

579
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 6: the VMAs, and that was because we get you know,

580
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 6: you go to do these things and there's rehearsals. You're

581
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 6: gonna be on television performing and it's live. There's these

582
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 6: rehearsals day before, and you're getting all the sound dial

583
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 6: then and you're getting we run in your monitors so

584
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 6: we can hear everything that way, so there's no monitors

585
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 6: for us to hear ourselves on stage.

586
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 4: You're I don't even think there's a amps, right or I.

587
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 6: Don't remember, but you're relying on everything that's coming through

588
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 6: here in your ears. And we went through the rehearsals

589
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 6: the day before, dialed everything in.

590
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 5: It was great.

591
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 6: And then we're up on stage the day of at

592
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 6: the VMA's. You guys are going in two minutes whatever

593
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 6: it is, We're like, okay, cool, hell yeah, we're all

594
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 6: going about TV cool of the MTV Music Chords, and

595
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 6: then it starts and everything was off in ears, so

596
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 6: we couldn't hear what we were doing, which was hard

597
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 6: for all of us, but specifically probably you because you

598
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 6: had to sing. I could at least be like pop

599
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 6: one out and kind of hear a little bit what

600
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 6: I was doing, and it was challenging because you're trying.

601
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 4: To it was terrifying. Yes, Live Music Award show. You know,

602
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 4: we're not even playing a full song. I think we're

603
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 4: playing like ninety seconds of something and boo. We walk

604
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: out and it's I think it was at the arena

605
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 4: in Miami, and so it's all just noise and live

606
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 4: audience and stuff like that, and I'm like, du something

607
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: doesn't feel right. I'm you know, and I immediately realized

608
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: that nothing's working at all, not even like, oh it's

609
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 4: too loud, it's just not working. So I'm i pop

610
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,479
Speaker 4: my things out and I'm trying to go by what

611
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 4: I'm hearing, right, but there's all the slap back and whatever,

612
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 4: and basically it was like flying blindfolded, and you know,

613
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 4: I did the best I could at the time, but

614
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 4: but it was a wreck and it was ninety seconds

615
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 4: of pure terror, anxiety and yeah yeah to which like

616
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: I spent the next decade plus trying to work through

617
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 4: to be honest with you really, like, dude, any any

618
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 4: type of a little hiccup in a performance, especially if

619
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 4: it was like on radio or on TV, like that,

620
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 4: would this right? That that thing again? Yeah? And the thing. Honestly,

621
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 4: I didn't care that much. I just didn't care. I'm like, oh,

622
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 4: it's ninety seconds. It was bad, but ever like that.

623
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 4: But people are just ruthless, you know. Yeah, And I honestly,

624
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: if it happened now, I would be able to go like, yes,

625
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 4: I don't care, like I don't care, I don't know,

626
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 4: this is what happened. I don't care. But at that

627
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 4: point in our career, that point of me just being

628
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 4: a human being, it was too I didn't have enough

629
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 4: confidence to shield from the outside opinion. Yes, like like

630
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,479
Speaker 4: I said today, I would, I could care less if

631
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 4: my pants fell down in the middle, I wouldn't go

632
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 4: whatever it would I laugh about it. But at that

633
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 4: time I was too vulnerable to that. Like I still

634
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 4: was leaning on what people's opinions were of the band

635
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 4: and oh my god, you didn't think I sounded good? Like,

636
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 4: oh yeah, that was a tough one to get through.

637
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: That was that was probably a moment performing in this.

638
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: Band did it ever make you like refuse to wear

639
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: in years, like, no, I can't trust that.

640
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 4: I don't want to go. It didn't. It just made

641
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 4: me go like on to. What it really did is

642
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 4: it made me be less harsh on other people. It did.

643
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 4: It made me go like, you know what, Yeah, dude,

644
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 4: this is a complicated you know, industry. Performing is not

645
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 4: uh you know, it's it's it's an art. There's supposed

646
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 4: to be humanness and yeah, and if you mess up,

647
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: that's fine, that's fine. Whereas in the past I might

648
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 4: have been like, oh, that person sounded terrible. They don't

649
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 4: have time.

650
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, not even that's just been.

651
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 4: Kind of dumb and immature about it. And uh, it

652
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 4: really made me go like, oh, dude, Like now I'm

653
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 4: on that side of the fence. Like so it's one

654
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 4: of the reasons why I'll never accept singing the national

655
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: anthem anywhere, because I've been offered a bunch yeah, and

656
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: I've said no every time and they're like why, Like

657
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 4: it's gonna be Monday night football, We're gonna fly on

658
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: to Really, like Howard Benson was just like, Oh, we're

659
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 4: gonna we'll all go to We're gonna do the whole thing,

660
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 4: And like Howard, if if I nail it. If I

661
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 4: nail it, it's forgotten by kickoff. Yeah, if I get

662
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 4: up right, it's immortalized. It's literally a lose lose. There's

663
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 4: no win in this at all. And I don't even care.

664
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 4: I'm not even like it's something I've to do. I

665
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 4: just don't want to do it. So one of the.

666
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: Things I say often that I am thankful gets better

667
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: with age is balancing risk versus reward.

668
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: I'm so good at it now, I'm like, what's the reward?

669
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: What's the reward here?

670
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 4: What am I?

671
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: What is the thing I would hope happens? And like

672
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: you said, you go out there and nail it and

673
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: guess what it means nothing to nobody except for you.

674
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: And then the risk, like you mentioned, you botch the

675
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: national anthem. It's talked about for a few days and

676
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: it lives forever on the internet, and you end up

677
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 2: in clip shows as top ten worst.

678
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: You know, no, this this is.

679
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: A certain amount of because there's so much media in general,

680
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 4: in all forms that even the worst might consider the

681
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 4: most embarrassing. Whatever mess up just doesn't have a life

682
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 4: span anymore. I know, doesn't like, I don't know if

683
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 4: that's good or bad, plus the shamelessness of society in general,

684
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 4: but yeah, I don't. Yeah, it's like you can mess

685
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 4: up so bad now and think, in the moment, this

686
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 4: is I've basically done something so harmful to myself or

687
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 4: career whatever like that, and realize if you just stick

688
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 4: your head out the window, nobody's paying attention. Nobody's and

689
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 4: even the ones that are tomorrow they will be paying

690
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 4: attention to something else exactly. Like, it's kind of crazy

691
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 4: how how short the attention span has become, even for And.

692
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: We have a friend too who says that the only

693
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: people who will talk to you about it, like the

694
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: people who will bring it up to you are the people,

695
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: like the people closest to you, because but he says,

696
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: it's not fair they basically have Google.

697
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 3: Alerts for you on their phone, like you know them

698
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 3: so well.

699
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: It's being fed directly to them as if they had

700
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 2: a Google alert. That's not what the population is like,

701
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 2: no one knows, no one gives it.

702
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 4: Okay.

703
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: I wanted to list a few other bands from your

704
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 2: class or groups who've just played Warped Tour around the

705
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: time that you did maybe even names that have been

706
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: mentioned in the same breath as Hubastank at some point.

707
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: And I want you to tell me who has the

708
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: better name them or Whobastank Okay, alien ant.

709
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 6: Farm Hm, who has a better name?

710
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 4: I think that's a clever name. Well, I always thought

711
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 4: it was a clever name. We love those guys, but yeah,

712
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, I absolutely love those guys.

713
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to start anybe for those but.

714
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 5: I've always felt like their name was a little great.

715
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 5: It was awesome.

716
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 3: So we're gonna go with Huba Stank on that one.

717
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 4: I don't like that. It's three words, how about that? Okay, right,

718
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 4: I'll take I'll take Hubasnank.

719
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 3: Okay, Bowling for soup another three word.

720
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 4: Another band that I love, like personally, but I've never

721
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 4: liked that. I've never liked that name. Okay.

722
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 6: We had we did a show with them not too

723
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 6: long ago, and Jared, the lead singer, wanted to do

724
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 6: a TikTok with us about that, like who has the

725
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 6: dumber name? And we ended up not doing it, but

726
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 6: we will, Okay.

727
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 4: So that's another thing that like, I don't spend any

728
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 4: time thinking about, Like I don't see those guys in

729
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 4: go bowling for what a silly name.

730
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 6: At some point it's just Jimiroquai or Humble Wamba. It

731
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 6: just becomes the name. Yes, as stupid as it may sound,

732
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 6: when you say our band name, I kind of I'm like,

733
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 6: not because it's you.

734
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 5: It's just hearing our name. Sometimes.

735
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 6: Like if I run into somebody and like, oh, you're

736
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 6: playing a band, what's what's I'm just waiting. I just

737
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 6: I'm waiting for it, like, oh do you play I

738
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 6: play guitar? What's the band called? And it's either they

739
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 6: either know it right away, like really, or it's what what?

740
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 5: And I say it again?

741
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 4: Oops?

742
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 6: Mistake No, no, like like Scooba Tank Yeah, yeah, who

743
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 6: was thank you know.

744
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 3: What about I wrestled a bear once?

745
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 6: That's a bad that's a band. Yeah you just make

746
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 6: that up now. I think who was saying is yeah.

747
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 3: We're getting easier. I set my friends on fire.

748
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 4: So I'm not a big fan. See, I don't know

749
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 4: these bands personally, and I'll just go out. I'm just

750
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 4: going to say that they're better than us, so that

751
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 4: don't hurt any feelings. Okay, all these bands that you're

752
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 4: saying they're better than us, But I'm not I've never

753
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 4: been a fan of bands with long names like long. Yeah.

754
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: Like I'm just like, dude, come on, come on, we

755
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: don't give us a mouthfault, right.

756
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: Gardening not architecture.

757
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 4: Yeah. See it's a really hard one. I mean, like

758
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 4: I said, these are great bands. They're better than us.

759
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 4: They're more successful, they're better looking, all of it. They're

760
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 4: all of that. But I'm just never been a fan

761
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 4: of the long names like that. But like I said,

762
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 4: who cares, it's my bass called Huba say anything.

763
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 2: I did notice a sentence that I think might be

764
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: the most y two k group of words ever uttered.

765
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: And it really only works with your name. Cuba Stank's

766
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: first single, Crawling in the Dark, was featured in the

767
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: PlayStation two rollerblading game Aggressive Inline.

768
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 4: I think you just portal.

769
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: Can you tell our younger listeners how important it was

770
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: to have a song in a video game?

771
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 4: I didn't know at the time, to be honest with you,

772
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 4: I didn't. I remember our manager at the times going like, yeah,

773
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 4: we're gonna put it in this and this and this,

774
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 4: and I'm like why why ye who cares? Like and

775
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 4: then you know, time passes and we see kids at

776
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 4: shows going, oh my god, that's like my favorite song

777
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 4: in this game. Yeah, I'm like, oh man.

778
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 6: I always thought when people would say that they heard

779
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 6: our song in that, I always thought to myself, like,

780
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 6: it's just not as cool as it being in Tony Hawk,

781
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 6: which it wasn't in, And I'm like, if it was,

782
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 6: it will never be No.

783
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: No, inline skating will never be as cool as skateboarding.

784
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: That is my favorite video game, Tony Hawk of all time.

785
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: I played that.

786
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 4: Game, dude. I just had a flashback of of the

787
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 4: sound you play that in the back of the bus.

788
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 4: Just imagine, just close your eyes and just here, I

789
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 4: think the PlayStation coroller stopping and you don't even realize

790
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 4: what you're doing. All these numbers, the diets and all

791
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 4: these tricks and everything.

792
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 6: Such a great The first one is such a great game.

793
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 6: I still have it. I think it was on like

794
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 6: PlayStation two.

795
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 3: It was PlayStation two.

796
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 2: I could I There were a couple of days when

797
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: I was not working and I was like, oh, I've.

798
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: Played this for nine hours.

799
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: For nine hours today, it was as if I had

800
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: a full time job.

801
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 6: We would have competitions to see who could get more

802
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 6: as commoos. We wouldn't even play the game. That's what

803
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 6: we were doing. Pass control over the next guy. Okay,

804
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 6: you do, you got to do ten in a row.

805
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: Like I also realized while you were recording your second album, Dan,

806
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: you were seriously injured in a mini bike accident. Can

807
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: we know all the details about that please?

808
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:14,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were.

809
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 6: We had just actually finished recording and did we even

810
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 6: release the record yet?

811
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 4: No, it was in between, like we had recorded it

812
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 4: and mixed it and mastered like the artwork that time

813
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 4: between our job being done and the record label now

814
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 4: taking it and setting up like marketing and something.

815
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, so there's a few months window. We had just

816
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 6: started this tour. We were in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

817
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 6: We had to go early in the morning to a

818
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 6: morning radio station to go do an interview Doug and

819
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 6: I and we had our radio rep pick us up,

820
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 6: who we ended up becoming friends with, and so we're like, hey,

821
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 6: after the interview, can you take us somewhere cool whatever?

822
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 5: And I don't know. We ended up at this meet

823
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 5: at a place that sold mini.

824
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 6: Bikes, and Doug and I and our bass player and

825
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 6: well we all four of us, we bought these these bikes,

826
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 6: these little mini yeah, sock and rocket like gas powered.

827
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 6: You look like clowns riding them. And we bought them

828
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 6: that that day.

829
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: You're a tall guy.

830
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 5: I thank you.

831
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 6: I actually still have the bike. It's in my garage.

832
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 6: And uh so we bought these bikes. I remember being

833
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 6: super excited because I had seen them in like movies

834
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 6: when I was a kid. Went back to the House

835
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 6: of Blue was that we were playing, and we were

836
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 6: cruising around all day long on these things, like riding

837
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 6: around the venue, the parking lot, and then we'd head

838
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 6: back to the tour bus and the they had like

839
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 6: a rope tied off where the buses were so that

840
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 6: fans wouldn't walk back there, although you could kind of

841
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 6: dip underneath them and go. And we we would just

842
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 6: be riding and as we were going back to the bus,

843
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 6: we would kind of dip our heads like this and

844
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 6: go under the rope and then put the bikes under

845
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 6: the bus, go do soundcheck whatever played the show, finished

846
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 6: the show. I'm in the back playing Tony Hawk or

847
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 6: something like that of the bus eating pizza or something

848
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 6: like that, and I hear Doug yell like Dan, we're

849
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 6: going for a ride, like let's go, let's go ride

850
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 6: around the parking lot. And I'm like, no, I'm cool.

851
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 6: I'm playing video games. He's like, let's go, and I

852
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 6: was like, all right, let's go. Totally sober went out

853
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 6: for this ride. We weren't wearing helmets. We're riding around

854
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 6: going fast, just being idiots whatever, and then slowing down

855
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 6: like you're coming to the end of the ride, you're

856
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 6: going really slow. We went to go dip under. I

857
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 6: went to go dip under the rope, but I had

858
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 6: kind of forgot that they had that They had tied

859
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 6: up a second rope underneath it that was a little

860
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 6: bit lower, and he was right behind me, and I

861
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 6: remember it it hitting me right across the right here,

862
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 6: and it threw me back and I hit my head.

863
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 6: But I remember thinking to myself as it happened, I

864
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 6: just bought this motorcycle. It was one thousand dollars. I

865
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 6: don't want to scratch it. And I held the bike

866
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 6: up to not scratch it. And I hit my head

867
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 6: and it didn't look that bad, and we weren't going

868
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 6: super fast, and yeah, you see people fall all the time,

869
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 6: it didn't seem that that serious.

870
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 4: You know, he gets up, gets in the bus, time

871
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 4: passes getting a headache. Are Honestly, I didn't you know,

872
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 4: I didn't think anything of it. And then are our

873
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: tour managers like, we should go get this checked out

874
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 4: before we go to the next city. And it was

875
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 4: getting progressively worse and worse and worse, so we ended

876
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 4: up going to the er. It was getting really it

877
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 4: was just me and the tour manager. Yeah, and then

878
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 4: at some point it was getting really bad, like he

879
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 4: you know, like basically writhing on the bed and going

880
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 4: through that. My head is hurting so bad. So they

881
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 4: X rayed him and there was like a little fracture

882
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 4: and a blood clot forming, and so they said, yeah,

883
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 4: you need you need to get it to be brain

884
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 4: surgery right now. You need to release the pressure on

885
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 4: this thing. So yeah, I uh, I feel like it

886
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 4: was either me or the tour manager was someone who

887
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 4: gave the green light to cut them open. Doc You're like, yeah,

888
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 4: let's let's do this, and yeah, the next day they

889
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 4: had a head shaved and recovering from head surgery. Youth Carolina.

890
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 6: You know, when you have a night out of drinking

891
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 6: and like a day or two later, you're reflecting on

892
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 6: that night, and it's it's you remember bits and pieces

893
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 6: of it. It's blurry but whatever. And so that's kind

894
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 6: of how my memory is of that night. And we

895
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 6: were driving to the emergency room in a cab before

896
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 6: uber and so like, and we had told that. I

897
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 6: remember my tour manager was like, can you step on it?

898
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 6: Can we go fast? And we got pulled over by

899
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 6: the cops. They told the cops what happened, and they

900
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 6: didn't care. They still wrote us a ticket. Got to

901
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 6: the hospital, and I just remember being in this room

902
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 6: and as super it was very, very blurry, and wasn't

903
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 6: feeling well at all, and my head just started getting

904
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 6: worse and worse, and uh, I remember I had to

905
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 6: I had to pee really bad, and I couldn't get

906
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 6: my belt undone or something, and I'm like complaining about it,

907
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 6: and I remember You're like helped me out, whatever it was.

908
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 6: And I think I peed in a trash can or

909
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 6: something like that is what I don't remember, but I

910
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 6: kind of remember that. And then I remember the doctor

911
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 6: coming in and starting to tell me what was going on,

912
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 6: but I couldn't really understand what was going on. And

913
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 6: then I just remember Doug saying, they need to do

914
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 6: surgery on you right now, something something like that, you know, yeah,

915
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 6: And I was just was like, I don't care, just

916
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 6: get me out of this pain. Please get me out

917
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 6: of this pain. And then I don't know that this happened,

918
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 6: but I remember, I'll remember was something going over me

919
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 6: like this, and then I was out and my hair

920
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 6: was long, a little bit longer than it is now

921
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 6: at the time, and I remember waking up to them

922
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 6: shaving it, and they shaved only half of it off,

923
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 6: so I had half head of hair that was long,

924
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 6: and then half of it was bald. And like he said,

925
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 6: I woke up the next day and there was a

926
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 6: tube sticking out of my head. I just remember opening

927
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 6: my eyes and the band guys and the crew guys

928
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 6: all walked in and started taking photos around me. I remember,

929
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 6: I mean, I was out of it, but I was

930
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 6: still always kind of joking around. And I remember my

931
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 6: mom and my sister walking in and they lived in

932
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 6: Calabasas and they flew out, and I just remember they

933
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 6: walked in and I was like, wow, okay, did.

934
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: You remember that you were in South Carolina?

935
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 5: I knew where I was, yeah, but I wasn't.

936
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 6: I was on morphine and I wasn't thinking clearly at all,

937
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 6: and I just I remember that kind of and I

938
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 6: had to stay in the hospital. I don't even know

939
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 6: if you remember the first.

940
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 4: Thing you told me, the first thing he told you.

941
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 4: It was like, She's like, Doug, Dug, and he's like,

942
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 4: you know, I have something like that. I forget what

943
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 4: the context was, but I'm like, well, what I'm in closeness,

944
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 4: like I got it tube. Yeah, so it was all

945
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 4: cath He wanted to tell me.

946
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 6: You know, there was always something like that, like in

947
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 6: the worst times ever, there's always like a little bit

948
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 6: of humor, you know.

949
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 4: That was the cool thing. He wanted to tell me that.

950
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 6: And I remember, I knew he would get a kick

951
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 6: out of never being like messed up and going like

952
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 6: I got to tell somebody nobody, but yeah, I was.

953
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 6: I ended up flying home and we canceled the rest

954
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 6: of the tour. I had to go home have photos

955
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 6: of me with this huge scar that goes like this

956
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 6: across my head. Half my head bald and the other

957
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 6: half is long. And I needed a haircut. So Doug

958
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 6: came over to my house and he shaved the rest

959
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 6: of my head and did a mohawk and we ended

960
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 6: up taking.

961
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 5: All the hair that.

962
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 6: We took the hair, and we scooped it into a

963
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 6: into a bowl and then and then evenly distributed all

964
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 6: the hair and then hair sprayed out of it, and

965
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 6: then we all wore it.

966
00:47:59,040 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 4: I have the photos.

967
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 5: I vote it's a Doug wearing and me wearing it.

968
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 5: It just looks so stupid.

969
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and uh, I ended up ended up healing and

970
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 6: I have no feeling on the side of my head.

971
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 6: Still nerve damage, yeah, nerve damage. And and if if

972
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 6: I was to shave my head, you'd see this scar

973
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 6: right here?

974
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 4: Wow?

975
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 3: Where where helmets kids?

976
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?

977
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: Because even going slow you know crazy.

978
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: Well on that.

979
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: Second album is the reason a favorite of all time

980
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: for me and many many others.

981
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 3: Where did the inspiration.

982
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: For that song a bit of a ballad come from?

983
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 4: When you say a bit of a ballad that makes

984
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 4: me go like, that makes me think that you're implying

985
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 4: guys should have a ballad, you know, like you know

986
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 4: like which, which honestly was a common question or misconception.

987
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 4: On our self tiled album, we had some mellow songs.

988
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 4: We just never released them. On the independent album we

989
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 4: put out on our own prior to record deal, we

990
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 4: had some songs that were more mellow. It wasn't so much,

991
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 4: at least from my perspective in the band. I feel

992
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 4: like it was just like, oh, when we put out music,

993
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 4: there's going to be a certain percentage that's probably up

994
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 4: tempo and heavy, and there's maybe one or two songs

995
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 4: that are mellow, just for balance, almost, you know. So

996
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 4: when we recorded it, it was on the album. That's

997
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 4: kind of how I saw it. I never saw it like, guys,

998
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 4: we just did something in fact post, you know, recording

999
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 4: the album and mixing, you have the pow wow with

1000
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 4: the producer and the record label and the management stuff

1001
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 4: like that, and you go around thinking like discussing what's

1002
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 4: what's going to be the single, possibly a second single.

1003
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 4: And I don't think anybody chose that song, not because

1004
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 4: we didn't, okay, but it just doesn't. It was the same.

1005
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 4: There was a really mellow song on the first album

1006
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 4: called to Be with You in my Head. Well that's that,

1007
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 4: that's this song for that. It's just a mellow kind

1008
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 4: of a breather on the album. Good song, proud of it,

1009
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 4: but never had any intention or foresight to see what

1010
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 4: it would do. So, yeah, that's inspiration wise, It wasn't

1011
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 4: something different than what we did.

1012
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 3: When did you know it was sticking?

1013
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: Like, oh my gosh, this song is really sticking for us.

1014
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 6: We knew that there was something about it. Well, the

1015
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 6: record label really liked it. We had to go to

1016
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 6: some big meeting with all like the big wigs at

1017
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 6: the record label and listen to the record with them

1018
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 6: at this huge table with everybody sitting around it. And

1019
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 6: when it got to that song, just like he said,

1020
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 6: it was just another was proud of the song because

1021
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 6: I felt like the album had some like diversity, you know,

1022
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 6: heavy songs, hit template songs, and slow songs.

1023
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 5: By the time we got to the second.

1024
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 6: Chorus or last chorus, they were singing like there was

1025
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 6: the heads of the company were like singing the chorus

1026
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 6: already and.

1027
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 5: Had just we're just really excited about it. We're like,

1028
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 5: we got excited because they got excited, and we're like, okay, great,

1029
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 5: they're they're talking about this.

1030
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 6: I don't know, I mean, I don't know when we

1031
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 6: realized it was.

1032
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 4: There was a moment one of the first tours that

1033
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 4: we did on that album was Lincoln Park's Mediora tour,

1034
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 4: and there was a moment, I want to say, towards

1035
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 4: the end of that tour we started where that song

1036
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 4: had become a single, which we had fought against, smartly

1037
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 4: fought against and lost. We lost the battle for the

1038
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 4: changing the name, and so maybe they're maybe not what

1039
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 4: we were talking about.

1040
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 3: Just don't trust your instincts.

1041
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so we started playing it and I want

1042
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 4: to say it was Atlanta. I could be wrong. I

1043
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 4: remember playing the song and the reaction was like ridiculous,

1044
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 4: Like it's nothing I'd ever seen. And we'd been a

1045
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 4: relatively successful band up to that point, you know, like

1046
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 4: we had some successful songs and uh so I was

1047
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 4: used to the reaction of oh, that's the big single.

1048
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 4: But I started seeing this thing like oh dude, this

1049
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 4: is huge. And then playing with playing shows with Nikbis

1050
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 4: and these other bands, those are the type of the

1051
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 4: guys that were be like, would you guys show this week?

1052
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 4: Would you guys sew this week? You know, like they

1053
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 4: would keep track of numbers with other bands, yeah, like,

1054
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: oh we did this this week, And at some point

1055
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 4: we started passing them. And that's when I started going

1056
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 4: like oh dude, this is this kind of out of

1057
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 4: our control now, Like.

1058
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: It's you mentioned Atlanta, I wonder if it was music

1059
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: Midtown two thousand.

1060
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 4: I definitely remember those festivals. I love those well.

1061
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: I have to tell you I looked when I came

1062
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: across this in research. I have to read you the

1063
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: small sampling of what concertgoers saw that weekend. Bubastank, Puddle

1064
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 2: of Mud, Ludacrous, Journey, Foo Fighters, y Clef, Jessica Simpson, Pole,

1065
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: The Strokes, Jason Maraz and Bob Dylan.

1066
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 4: Makes perfect sense to me. It's beautiful.

1067
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 3: It's beautiful.

1068
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 5: We did that festival. I think it's like a food court.

1069
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1070
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 6: I remember standing on stage looking out and not being

1071
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 6: able to see where the audience ended. It was just

1072
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 6: a sea of people and it was pretty surreal.

1073
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 3: It's pretty amazing.

1074
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 2: Well, now you guys have your new song, your first

1075
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: in eight years, and it is a return to your

1076
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: roots of sorts. Maybe not the costumes, uh, but it

1077
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 2: is a jump back into punk.

1078
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 3: How do you sleep? I love it. I made sure

1079
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 3: I listened to it several times before I talked to you.

1080
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 2: What made you guys want to get back into the

1081
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 2: studio or are you always in the studio.

1082
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 3: You just decided to release this one.

1083
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 4: We like you said, we put something out into twenty eighteen.

1084
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel like, I don't want to say,

1085
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 4: we've spent a lot of time kind of searching, like

1086
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 4: trying to find our way back. Like you said, it's

1087
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 4: like a return to punk, which ironically I would have

1088
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 4: never described as punk, but we've been described as punk

1089
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 4: early on. I can only speak for myself. And from

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Speaker 4: twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen through like twenty twenty two, there

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Speaker 4: was just a lot going on in my life personally,

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Speaker 4: along with COVID and all this other stuff you know,

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Speaker 4: that I had to deal with. It wasn't the most

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Speaker 4: you know, it wasn't the best environment for me creatively.

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Speaker 4: And during that time, Dan and everybody else in the

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Speaker 4: Man they continue to write and send me, and I

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Speaker 4: kind of feel like once I got through what I

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Speaker 4: needed to get through, I felt I don't want to

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Speaker 4: say inspired, but I just felt kind of normal again.

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Speaker 4: And there's I mean even musically though, like you've gone through,

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Speaker 4: we all have like phases of like you want to

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Speaker 4: do a little bit less this and less this, and

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Speaker 4: and I kind of felt like me coming back to

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Speaker 4: feeling like I'm in a normal creative space linked up

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Speaker 4: with you starting to write these ideas that kind of

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Speaker 4: reminded me of earlier stuff and they were kind of

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00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 4: inspiring for me, and honestly were just like, let's let's

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00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 4: record these, let's demo these. So he sends me the idea,

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00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 4: I sing stuff over, I send it back. We go

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Speaker 4: back and forth until we have this kind of pseudo song.

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Speaker 4: And the producer who did a few of our records,

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Speaker 4: Howard Benson, who's also Calbassies. He's a friend of ours

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Speaker 4: and he's over the years, he's always checked in with

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Speaker 4: us and what do you guys? Do you guys have anything?

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Speaker 4: What do you got? And we've sent him stuff before

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00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 4: and honestly, a lot of times he's like that's cool,

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00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 4: but maybe yeah, maybe like this and it never would

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Speaker 4: pan out. But we sent him sometime last year, we

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00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 4: sent him these ideas and he was blown away. He

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Speaker 4: was really excited about him and so it just kind

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00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 4: of made sense for like, let's yea, let's let's let's

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Speaker 4: record these songs. And then it got into like, well,

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Speaker 4: are we gonna do an album or are we gonna

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Speaker 4: do a song. We kind of just settled on let's

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Speaker 4: just do one at a time or a batche at

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Speaker 4: a time and see what happens from there. So we

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Speaker 4: ended up recording four songs, and uh, I I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm really stoked on the way they turned out. I've

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Speaker 4: detached myself from the the outcome.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: Do I like the song? Want to listen to them? Yes?

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Speaker 4: Do I like the process? Do I like everything? Yes? None,

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00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 4: that's it.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 4: I win, we win out. Everything else is out of

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Speaker 4: my hands. And so we have more songs that we

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00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 4: want to record, and maybe we'll put them all together

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Speaker 4: and put it like a proper album.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I would love that.

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Speaker 2: I'm forcing Dan and Doug to hang out for just

1141
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 2: a little bit longer. We dive even deeper into hoop

1142
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1143
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,800
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1144
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1145
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1146
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1147
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1149
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1150
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1151
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Speaker 2: two minutes and email it to Teenbeatpod at gmail dot com.

1152
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Speaker 2: You may just hear it on the next episode. You

1153
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: can hear the first new song from hubistank in almost

1154
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Speaker 3: How do you sleep?

1156
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Speaker 2: Wherever you stream music and catch them this summer on

1157
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Speaker 2: Check dates now on houbastank dot com. Thank you guys,

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Speaker 2: eight one eight forever. Teenbeat is an iHeart podcast produced

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Speaker 2: and hosted by Danielle Fischel. Executive producers Jensen Carp and

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Speaker 2: Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge of production Danielle Romo, producer

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Speaker 2: and editor Tara Sudbach. The theme song is by mar Coppus.

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Speaker 2: Yes that Mark Coppus. Follow us on Instagram at Teenbeatpod.