WEBVTT - Scott Aukerman

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<v Speaker 1>When I do live gigs around the country, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>honest with you. I sell T shirts and swag to

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<v Speaker 1>the folks who are there, and then people always say,

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<v Speaker 1>can we get this wag without sitting through a whole

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<v Speaker 1>evening of you. Well, it's happened. It's finally here. You

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<v Speaker 1>can buy Craig Ferguson merch on the Craig Ferguson Merch

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<v Speaker 1>website and you can buy it for yourself or someone

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<v Speaker 1>you hate or someone you love. For more information and

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<v Speaker 1>link to the web store, please go to the Craig

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<v Speaker 1>Fergusonshow dot com. That's all lowercase, the Craig Ferguson show

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. My name is Craig Ferguson. The name of

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast is joy. I talk to interesting people about

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<v Speaker 1>what brings them happiness. Today. My guest is Scott Akerman,

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<v Speaker 1>who founded podcasts when he started comedy Bang Bang. He

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<v Speaker 1>is the funniest cleverest you know what he's really really

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a bit jealous, and the fact that I can

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<v Speaker 1>get along with them shows that I'm making progress. I've

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<v Speaker 1>just decided that I'm going to get plastic surgery. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to start with my tests.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good, because I feel like if it gets botched,

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<v Speaker 2>it's testicles. People say, oh, you know, your testicles look weird.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, not that many people see them anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, they're ugly anyway, right.

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<v Speaker 1>They're ugly anyway. And also they're weird looking. So if

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<v Speaker 1>people say, you know, your testicles are weird looking, I go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're technicals. Yeah they're They're still weird looking. They're the

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<v Speaker 1>undersea creature of my pants. Now listen, I'm quite honorous

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that you're here because you honored to

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<v Speaker 1>be here.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you for saying we have a dual honor

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<v Speaker 3>system going on.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, I'm not going to the gate you

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<v Speaker 1>saying that, although I feel like there may be a

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<v Speaker 1>centiment fire. I feel like you may be the architect

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<v Speaker 1>of what we're doing here. You are the You are

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<v Speaker 1>the im mover, You are the.

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<v Speaker 3>God like the Optimist Prime.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so. You are. Of the comedy chat podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You made it happen. You're the veil of underground Man,

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<v Speaker 1>You're the ramones you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, am I disagreeing with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you should. I don't think you should.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a conscious kind of artistic choice. I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought we'll just go with us and see where I ams.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think I wanted to do a radio

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<v Speaker 3>show because I just grew up very obsessed with the radio, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So like DJ's, I used to like tape my own

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<v Speaker 3>voice doing when I was like thirteen, doing just top

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<v Speaker 3>forty DJs, and I would tape the songs off the

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<v Speaker 3>radio and edit them in.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>What that is very nerdy a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm a little concerned for you, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get into that. But now we're beginning to

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<v Speaker 1>see why you have comedy jobs though, because clearly, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the start was strange and uncomfortable, and my personal feeling

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<v Speaker 1>is that you can't be funny at all unless the

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<v Speaker 1>first fifteen twenty years are deeply uncomfortable in some way.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I started comedy in ninety five. Where are

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<v Speaker 3>we now, twenty twenty five? Almost?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I came in America in nineteen ninety five. I

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<v Speaker 1>was already thirty. What were you doing before then? Drinking?

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty much?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, and you stopped when you're in America.

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped before I came to America. Oh really, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped when I was twenty nine. Really, yeah, it happened, well,

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of stuff. I'm not quite clear on the

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<v Speaker 1>statute of limitations. Well, no, I murder is the only

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<v Speaker 1>one that still is going. No, I was. I drank.

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<v Speaker 1>I was. You know, it was sad. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>sad alcoholic. You've been in your business for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you understand what sad alcoholism is?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, I've seen a few of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And some people can make it work and some

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<v Speaker 1>people can't. I couldn't. I've always found that really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who quit when they're you know, like eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>in their twenties. Yeah, I'm suppressive. But if you quit

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<v Speaker 1>that young, I feel like, I mean, good luck. I

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<v Speaker 1>should have quit that young. But I'm glad I quit

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<v Speaker 1>when I did because it was long enough to do

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<v Speaker 1>some damage, but not long enough to fuck up. You

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<v Speaker 1>call me fucking monologue, that's right. Got me talking about

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<v Speaker 1>me the table sooner, Man, I don't want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about myself. Yeah, well you're going to. So did you

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<v Speaker 1>ever like fall into the alcoholism trap or just a man?

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<v Speaker 3>I've never done well, okay, that's not right, but I've

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<v Speaker 3>never really done any drugs. So I did a podcast

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<v Speaker 3>once right where I went to a Fish concert with

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<v Speaker 3>my friend Harris Whittles, who's no longer with us, right,

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<v Speaker 3>big fish fan. It was the premise of the podcast

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<v Speaker 3>was him trying to get me to like Fish, the

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<v Speaker 3>band Fish. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be a hard one for me, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not like Fish.

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<v Speaker 3>So I never did. I we did, you know, eight

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<v Speaker 3>up as, so I never you never go around to it,

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<v Speaker 3>never never got around to it. But we went to

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<v Speaker 3>Madison Square Garden to see Fish, and I promised that

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<v Speaker 3>I would do the whole thing. I would do drug

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<v Speaker 3>I'd never done any drugs. I would do drugs. I

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<v Speaker 3>would really do it the way a real Fish fan would.

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<v Speaker 1>What age are you when you do this? God help.

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<v Speaker 3>My forties? So that's that's late to start. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 3>I did as much like anything anyone gave me, I

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<v Speaker 3>would do right. And I never really got high.

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<v Speaker 1>So like you didn't know what I mean? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know how dangerous that is? Like if you do that now,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be dead.

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<v Speaker 3>The most that happened was at one point I went

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<v Speaker 3>those lights are pretty. You can hear me on the tape,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, Okay, I might have been high.

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<v Speaker 3>Right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's a bit of a tail. These lights

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<v Speaker 1>are pretty, they're pretty, these lives pretty. You got a

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<v Speaker 1>purty mouth. It's one of those tail phrases. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I I I don't care for fish. What kind of

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<v Speaker 1>music you went through that? If you know, I imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>let me let me get I bet you and I

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<v Speaker 1>are into a lot of the same. Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is for me. This is my fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>about you? Is that? But oh yeah, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>many is the that you like Schubert? You know is Schubert.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a little ostentatious for my tasty that's even beare

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<v Speaker 3>that you said that?

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you do?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>No, if you're mixing songs together in nineteen ninety five,

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<v Speaker 1>it's what ninety I feel like.

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<v Speaker 3>The nineties was a terrible time for music.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I really love like nineteen seventy seven to nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty three, like post punk electronics, you know, like, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that's my main style of music that I really love.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what comes up in the little music thing

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<v Speaker 1>on your phone that you keep that right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But that's the stuff that I love the most.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything else kind of branches out from that. Like nowadays,

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<v Speaker 3>for the past few months, I've been trying to like

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<v Speaker 3>buy every song that's on the R and B charts

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<v Speaker 3>from nineteen eighty to through two thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you left me behind there. I wouldn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>where to begin with that.

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<v Speaker 3>I have like a Billboard subscription, so I just look

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<v Speaker 3>at the charts like for every week and just try

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<v Speaker 3>to buy every song that's on there. It was like collecting, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>music collectors, right, do you collect vinyl?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have vinyl?

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<v Speaker 3>Not really, I never got I mean I started collecting

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<v Speaker 3>music in vinyl in the eighties in the actual time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>But now I just you know, I have one record player.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in the living room. I have to go in

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<v Speaker 3>there specially just to listen to like, you know, all

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<v Speaker 3>the old problems of vinyl of like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have to sit down and listen to us,

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<v Speaker 1>sit down, and I know, but musicians love that. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, no, you have to sit down and listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the music and going nah, I'll be running or

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<v Speaker 1>playing pick a ball. Yeh do you play pick a ball?

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<v Speaker 3>So I broke my foot two years ago playing pick

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<v Speaker 3>a ball for the first time. My wife was like

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<v Speaker 3>you got to play pick a ball?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have to. I never have that, you've done it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I did it. And I broke my foot first time,

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<v Speaker 3>first time. And I've had a like fucked up foot

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<v Speaker 3>for now two years and I just had surgery on

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<v Speaker 3>it two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and yeah, so was it you to sleep surgery? Yeah? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the drugs. So what did they give you?

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<v Speaker 3>So they gave me the propofol. And I've had this

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<v Speaker 3>weird thing where every doctor who says they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>give me propofol has the exact same thing that they

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<v Speaker 3>say about it, which is they say, it's what Michael Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson, that's what you want to say. Yeah, you'll love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a couple of times. The first thing I

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<v Speaker 1>go to I was like he was shut out. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Moon woke out of the place. It was a maze,

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<v Speaker 1>But it is I can see how a person get

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<v Speaker 1>who'd in a drug like that. I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't really remember. I did wake up

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<v Speaker 3>the first because I had a colonoscopy with propofol as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and they when I woke up, I felt

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<v Speaker 3>I did. I was like, I don't feel different, And

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<v Speaker 3>then I sent a really weird text to my friend

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<v Speaker 3>Adam Scott that I thought was normal, and then three

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<v Speaker 3>hours later I was like, fuck did I just said, Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>See that's you're not good at monitoring when you're high.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably best if you stay away from drugs because

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<v Speaker 1>if you like, these lights are pretty yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 1>knowing you're high. I know that you're you're high.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the best drug?

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<v Speaker 1>Though?

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<v Speaker 3>My friend was trying to to it because I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the best drug to take? And he was like,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe liquid heroin that you just like swallow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd say some kind of uh oaxy conton. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why people die of all the time, because the feeling

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<v Speaker 1>is so euphoric and lovely, very dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't do drugs now. I got for the foot,

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<v Speaker 3>I got like a full bottle of hair cassette. It's

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<v Speaker 3>either oxy or I don't know exactly what it was,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm just afraid to take it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're tricky. I mean, like, I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of alcoholics would be sober for a long time that

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<v Speaker 1>screw themselves up on that stuff. I mean, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm I mean I didn't but I'm very wary

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<v Speaker 1>of it because I reached the Gorvidal called the cedar

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<v Speaker 1>side I years where I kind of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the doctor a little more than I used to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you monitoring constantly, like where the doctor is, wherever

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<v Speaker 3>you're at, because I know you travel a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't do that so much, but I'm constantly monitoring,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're younger.

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<v Speaker 3>You have like ten years younger than wait, something like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>fifty three, okay, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sixty two on a Friday, so yeah, nineties, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think probably I was in my early fifties

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<v Speaker 1>when I started to develop reasonably intense hypochondria. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>not really hypochondria, you know, if you're just monitoring things.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm at that age now where I'm sort of

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<v Speaker 3>like constantly anytime anyone, like a celebrity dies, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of like looking at their age, going like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really close to there, I know, And like any

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<v Speaker 3>I've noticed anyone under fifty people are like, this is

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<v Speaker 3>a tragedy so young. Anyone over fifty they're like that's

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<v Speaker 3>about right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like if I died, know, like right now, people

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<v Speaker 1>were like well, yeah's I mean, I can see now

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<v Speaker 1>it's sixty you know, he was, you know, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they feel because you look for ways to feel comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. When when I think that's why people get look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just guessing, but I'm thinking that's why people get

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<v Speaker 1>into religion so much.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know a lot of people are really

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<v Speaker 3>super into religion. Like the closer they are to death,

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<v Speaker 3>closer you get, you're like, well, you know, you need

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<v Speaker 3>like some sort of meaning for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do. I've tried, my heart, it's so hard to.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you then stop? Did you have to come

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<v Speaker 3>up with a higher power?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you do the proper game? Absolutely? And I I

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<v Speaker 1>do have a have a kind of God centric belief system,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, but it doesn't involve life after death. Oh really?

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<v Speaker 3>Now, so do you think that it's just like we

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<v Speaker 3>shut off in that.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it might be like propofol do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>You just like, except you never wake actually wake up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they used to be on pagan tombstones for Christianity

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<v Speaker 1>in the Resurrection and all that. The the they used

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<v Speaker 1>to put on tombstones. I was not, I was, I

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<v Speaker 1>am not. I care not that was the r I P.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not a little worthy for well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>probably in Greek it's probably a lot. It's like Craco

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<v Speaker 1>creeky croco or something is.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like three letters.

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<v Speaker 1>Get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't have to pay a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>But my wife is a Yankee, right, so she's from

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<v Speaker 1>like from the Northeast.

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<v Speaker 3>She was, you're married to Derek Jeters.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife is Derek Jeter, which, like you can't make

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<v Speaker 1>fun of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's for you, right, But I'm just surprised

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<v Speaker 3>I could come up with a Yankee name. If it

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<v Speaker 3>is one, I'm like, I took a stab. Yeah, hope

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<v Speaker 3>for the best.

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<v Speaker 1>No, my wife is like, we're in Scotland and we

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<v Speaker 1>went to my parents' graves, right, so we're in this

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<v Speaker 1>graveyard and it's a graveyard and school Now graveyards in

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<v Speaker 1>Maine or in New Hampshire or for a month, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the person's name, a date, a hyphen a date, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But in Scotland, particularly in recent dates, it's the person's

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<v Speaker 1>name and says Margaret beloved husband of Sandy guinea pegg owner.

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<v Speaker 1>And always like to take it like there's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bioll bio and I'm like maybe sometimes a video, a

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<v Speaker 1>video on the actual tombstone, on the tombstone of like hello,

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<v Speaker 1>it's me, I'm dead, you know. I mean I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's that, but it's.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I mean, how long how long before that's obsolete?

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<v Speaker 3>I know, you know what I mean. I mean I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like within ten years the videos will stop working

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<v Speaker 3>on these tombstones.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and also I mean it shows a profound lack

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<v Speaker 1>of misunderstanding about time, right, like you know, as people say,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, you're like the Catholic Church had a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with cremation for a long time. In what way. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, you can't cremate the body because it has

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to come back for the day of resurrection.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to need your body back.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, yeah, so when Christ would come down with the rapture.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you know it comes back with the yeah, all

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<v Speaker 1>the things.

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<v Speaker 3>The trumpets and all that stuff. Right, so then your

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<v Speaker 3>body and no matter what state it's in, you get

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<v Speaker 3>a decompositioning ding ding doing diding do yeah, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of it, And that I think was a problem there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it took them a long time. They had to

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<v Speaker 1>have a big meeting about it and say.

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<v Speaker 3>One big meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what about doing everybody step into the pop's office.

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<v Speaker 1>We're having a big meeting about the afterlife because Chico

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<v Speaker 1>Marx was there, obviously. The Craig Ferguson Fancy Rascals Stand

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<v Speaker 1>Up Tour continues throughout the United States in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>For a full list of dates and tickets, go to

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<v Speaker 1>the Craig Ferguson show dot com slash tour see you

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Let's talk about comedy influences on you. Was

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<v Speaker 1>it the Marx Brothers. I feel you're in an absurd

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<v Speaker 1>list in a way.

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<v Speaker 3>It was not the Marx Brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>For me.

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<v Speaker 3>It was when I was growing up. It was like

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<v Speaker 3>Bob Hope really yeah, I'm surprised by Bob Hope was

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<v Speaker 3>really big for me. The Road Movies, I love them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so great. They got very meta and surreal in a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 1>They did.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Steve Martin huge. Like I was trying to explain

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<v Speaker 3>to someone who never really had ever seen Steve Martin

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<v Speaker 3>stand up or The Jerk or any of his early movies,

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<v Speaker 3>just like, how insane it was that someone was doing

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<v Speaker 3>anti comedy. Yeah, you know, in the early seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>He was he was. It was very unusual, he to me,

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<v Speaker 1>because run of it at the same time the pythons

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<v Speaker 1>were working in the in the UK, and that that

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<v Speaker 1>was he seemed to be like an American relative of

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<v Speaker 1>the Goons and the pythons, right, and that that weird

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<v Speaker 1>kind of almost born of the surrealist movement. Comedy that

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<v Speaker 1>that that it went, Yeah, anti comedy, I guess is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, were the pythons for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that? Yes? Very very definitely. Yeah. I Uh. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the crining achievements in my life, quite literally actually,

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<v Speaker 1>is that Eric Idle made me a crown. Really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he made me a crown with a little bit would

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<v Speaker 1>he do that? Eric marches to the beat of his

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<v Speaker 1>own drum, and he was coming on the show and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I've made you a crown and I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a crown and it's got a little Roulette

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<v Speaker 1>wheel on it and interesting, I still have it in

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<v Speaker 1>my hands, so nice that I walk around wearing it,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't wear it actually doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>How many of the pythons have you interacted with?

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<v Speaker 1>I've met Michael Palin and Eric I know quite well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think i've met. No, I never met Please,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to him in the phone once. How about you?

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<v Speaker 3>You you told zero? Yeah, never met any of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They were big for me too when I was like thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>I was dating someone when I was thirteen who was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you've never seen a monty python thing, You're right, and

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<v Speaker 3>showed me and so that was like, imagine a huge thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can imagine for you. It feels like that

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<v Speaker 1>informs like between two ferns and all that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff feels like it. Yeah, it's not the same, but

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<v Speaker 1>it has like.

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<v Speaker 3>There's now that drops during the between two ferns.

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<v Speaker 1>The giant food that comes down on Zach and all

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<v Speaker 1>that's all that stuff, but but it's other than that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not the same at all. The naked

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<v Speaker 1>guy playing the piano.

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<v Speaker 3>They oh, obviously the Spanish Inquisition, no one expected that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>all of that stuff is in there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like that stuff it didn't feel forced

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<v Speaker 1>to me. It was felt fairy, kind of strange. But

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<v Speaker 1>if I go back and look at old pythons now,

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<v Speaker 1>mean I do from time to time. I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shocked at how how there's quite a long time for

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<v Speaker 1>me between inspiration and then other inspiration, I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's yeah, it's interesting to watch anything that you grew

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<v Speaker 3>up with. Yeah, where you're kind of like, oh wow,

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<v Speaker 3>some of it was writing on just like brilliance. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>in between boring a little bit, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>but sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think I think that's the there was a

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<v Speaker 1>time though, I mean, Joint Cleaves is always banging on

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<v Speaker 1>of It's like there's too many executives and gatekeepers for

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<v Speaker 1>comedy now, and it makes it much more difficult experiment

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. I think in the in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>areas that he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think it probably if you're only interested in

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<v Speaker 3>TV or movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think it's terrible. Yeah, you can't really

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<v Speaker 1>do it anymore. But didn't you know you did the

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<v Speaker 1>the the Al Yankubic movie though, don't you.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, I was in it, but right,

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<v Speaker 3>you were in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Al was the band leader of my TV show

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<v Speaker 3>for a year for a season.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. See. I think Al is related to all that. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Alan Eric, I love very good friends. Yeah right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Al though the same kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Happened where he made UHF, and then you know he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't make a movie for than twenty some odd years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, so it comes around. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit like music. Particularly if comedy is experimental

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<v Speaker 1>or a little weird, a little stage, it goes out fashion. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have to wait for it to come

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<v Speaker 1>back around.

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<v Speaker 3>Comedy is very very not in fashion in movies and

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<v Speaker 3>TV right now. It's just it's just very very difficult

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<v Speaker 3>to get something made. So that's why podcasts you see.

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<v Speaker 1>Oppenheimer, that's pretty funny. It was pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Got playing the bongos all the time. Hey, mister bongos,

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<v Speaker 3>enough for making a nuclear bomb here?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Albert Einstein was there. That was great. That guy,

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<v Speaker 1>what's his governor go? What's the governor go? East to me? Alberto.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think it's funny that they made Robert Downey

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<v Speaker 3>Junior wear that bald cap and he got an Oscar

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<v Speaker 3>for it. For wearing a bald cap.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you get him. That's how you get an oscar.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a pretty good bald cap. But yeah, like he

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<v Speaker 1>should share it with the bald cap. Maybe he maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he shaved it because that he's appropriate. I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't see him shaving his head.

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<v Speaker 1>He's pretty would do it, well, I shaved my I'd

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<v Speaker 1>do right now for like forty bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>Forty bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you go forty bucks, I'll shave my head.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you do?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you act much anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Not anymore? I get very impatient with it, do you now?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not really like one thing a year?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe, yeah, I don't get asked that much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, neither way. I'm off only of course, yo fuck yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>which means I never work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, yeah, because you know, auditions for me, I

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<v Speaker 1>imagine I hated that.

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<v Speaker 3>She hated I. I was auditioning in the time in

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<v Speaker 3>La where you had to have the Thomas Guide map, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and you had to basically do three or four a day.

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<v Speaker 3>And they were all over the city, growing to Santa

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<v Speaker 3>Monica eleven and then back to the valley, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was casting directors.

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<v Speaker 1>Lived in little bungalows in the middle of nowhere and

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And at a certain point, I think in like nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>ninety nine or so, I was like, this is wasting

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<v Speaker 3>all of my time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the whole day. Yeah, you're starting the car trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get a job you don't really want anyway, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but your agent wants you to get Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just told my agent I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>audition anymore and so.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you're not long you were still with that agent,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, So I just found it like more productive

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<v Speaker 3>to like write scripts and do stuff, you know, without well, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of go in the same thing because I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing the Drew Carey Show because I one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things clicked for me. I was running but nineteen ninety six,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I found myself like, oh I did like

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<v Speaker 1>once a week is going to go Getta You'll filed.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that was that's all I fucking did. You

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<v Speaker 1>got fired every week. Yeah you awful and getty you'll fired,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone's terrible. Good day. And then I had nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do, so I just would write in my trailer.

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<v Speaker 3>Otherwise you go, but writing a trailer it's very hard

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<v Speaker 3>for me, really, Yeah, trailer is my time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get I think it's cause it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was a job that went on forever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can only you know. I mean eventually, when

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<v Speaker 3>you're when you're on a show like that, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have like a dressing room.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't well, you get a trailer, but it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's outside the thing, and it's it's okay. It was

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<v Speaker 1>all right, right, I'm not complaining about it, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was it got a little boring, I think. No, with

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<v Speaker 1>the invention of Instagram, I wonder how many scripts have

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<v Speaker 1>not been written.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, yeah, it's so easy. You're basically writing on

0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:24.879
<v Speaker 3>this thing that is the portal. Too fun for your brain, right,

0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:26.440
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? And you and so like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm constantly writing on a computer and being like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but if I click on this on the computer, I

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<v Speaker 3>can have way more fun, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's it's actually I think maybe it's my age,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like social media may be one of

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<v Speaker 1>the worst things that's happened to human society in a while.

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<v Speaker 3>I think so, yeah, I think that you know, so,

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<v Speaker 3>so much of what has happened in the world over

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<v Speaker 3>the past eight years, yeah, has really been because of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think the I've correct me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>You're clever, Right, you are wrong, That's how clever you are.

0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:05.000
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like for democracy to be functional, there

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<v Speaker 1>has to be a reasonably honest press.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, there isn't, so it doesn't work right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>does not have to be completely It's best to be

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<v Speaker 3>reasonably honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there was always William Hurst or all these motherfuckers,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The problem is is that there used to be

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<v Speaker 3>at least facts that we all sort of agreed on, right,

0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:31.399
<v Speaker 3>and you would kind of go like, well, how do

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<v Speaker 3>I feel about it? Maybe I liked it, maybe I

0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 3>didn't like it, but at least like we know what

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<v Speaker 3>the facts are because you'd read it in the paper

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 3>everything and every paper kind of said the same thing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, right, And now you know no one reads

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<v Speaker 3>any papers, you know, they all just kind of maybe

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 3>hear about something, you know, from social media or something.

0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, stuff becomes like real when it's not real.

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Like do you remember the mine apocalypse? Remember that? I was?

0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I was concerned. We live through that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty twelve?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my, how'd you fare in it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? You know, it was it was a tough time.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the min apocalypse? Why two K?

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 3>Why two K?

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Why too K? You imagine white two K? Now with

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 1>social media like it might actually have happened. Why two K?

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<v Speaker 3>I was always like because I was in California at

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<v Speaker 3>the time. I was like, it will happen in Australia

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<v Speaker 3>hours and hours before we'll know it's coming. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 3>like so by the time, but everyone was still like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, trying to see what was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>But all we had were computers back then too. I

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<v Speaker 3>did my phone, and computers.

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<v Speaker 1>Were powered by rabbits and yeah, smaller rodents on little

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<v Speaker 1>wheels and the you had to use a I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was different. I remember Conan used to

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<v Speaker 1>do that thing in the year to I love about

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<v Speaker 1>Conan is that after the Year that genius wonderful?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you so you got your show after Conan had

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<v Speaker 3>already been going for fifteen years or ten for a

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<v Speaker 3>long time. Yeah? Was he like an influence on you

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 3>or Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I loved Conan and I I was on a show

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit before I go late and once once

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<v Speaker 1>I was up against.

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<v Speaker 3>Him, the where could go again?

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<v Speaker 1>Well I did eventually when he moved on to the

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:20.440
<v Speaker 1>other one or the the Conan Show. Yeah, but it

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of amite it a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Weird because now we're seeing networks.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the networks then were very strict about were they

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<v Speaker 1>really Yeah, it was a different like remember when Dave

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<v Speaker 1>and j were meant to be enemies and all that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And our senior was going to kick Jay's ass.

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<v Speaker 1>And all that. It's funny because I do gigs sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>with our Senio and Jay really together. Yeah, Senior Senior

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<v Speaker 1>Holiday Leanta. I've been friends for like four years, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, well, wait, weren't you guys fighting

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<v Speaker 1>each other? And I'm like, oh God, that's so stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>I've always thought that because I did a fake talk show. Yes,

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 3>I I wondered if it would be fun to do

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<v Speaker 3>a real talk show because I was always sort of like,

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<v Speaker 3>in my mind, I was kind of like, Okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>do the fake talk show and then you know, I

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 3>was trying to springboard into something bigger in my mind,

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<v Speaker 3>and then all of TV just kind of shut down,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know. But then I've heard from friends that

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have enjoyed it. But I wonder if I

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<v Speaker 3>would have enjoyed it. If I had done it like

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<v Speaker 3>you where it was just like a free flowing conversation.

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I think you would have been fine with it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you would enjoy it. I think that because what.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard most about it is that people find it

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<v Speaker 3>very boring talking to people that they don't care about,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that that is a thing, But that only happens

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<v Speaker 1>if you have to talk to them about what they

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk But if you go into the Like

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<v Speaker 1>why I came to reasonably quickly is I thought, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter what once they get out there, what are

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>they going to do not talk to me? So I

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 1>would say, like, right, you have to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>movie right away. So they come out and I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>where'd you meet your wife? You know? And they're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to say, I'm not telling you. It's not a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible question, it's a reasonable quest. Would there be stars who,

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<v Speaker 1>like politicians, would try to pivot like yeah, politicians to

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<v Speaker 1>protect I had like three or four on in ten years,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I was like, okay, that's I'm not having

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<v Speaker 1>it because these guys are so trained.

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<v Speaker 3>Professional pivoters to just get back to whatever they want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So you say, you know, where'd you meet your wife?

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 1>And then go where I met my wife? Reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>of the time that, you know, And then we're having

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of problems with that in this country, right exactly,

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't want to hear your ship.

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<v Speaker 3>So you would not do any kind of pre interviews

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<v Speaker 3>or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they were done, they were done, they were done.

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<v Speaker 3>They weren't look at them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't look at them. I did it well

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<v Speaker 1>in the same way that when you were doing the

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<v Speaker 1>fake talk show, constructing the interview the way you wanted

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 1>it to be. I was just doing the same thing.

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.479
<v Speaker 1>That's why when I would watch like Between Two Firms

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<v Speaker 1>or like that, I would go, well, that's kind of

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 1>what I want to achieve here too, which is that?

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>And you know that kind of discomfort, that kind of fun,

0:27:58.200 --> 0:27:58.639
<v Speaker 1>that kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's all. And I I feel like late night

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 3>talk shows are so produced and so overproduced now basically

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:08.640
<v Speaker 3>you know that where you know that you'll have four

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 3>pre interviews sometimes before you guessed on one, and they'll

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.439
<v Speaker 3>really be trying. Yeah, they'll really be trying to focus

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 3>in on like the exact thing you're going to talk about.

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 1>That sounds awful.

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 3>And that's why like my show in Between Two Ferns

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 3>were so fun is because we would never tell the

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 3>people what was going to go, what was going to

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 3>happen and it would all just be in the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love that feeling of, like you know, someone

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<v Speaker 3>in the moment being surprised by something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so much more fun.

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<v Speaker 1>More fun, And as long as you're not some evil

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of killer that's trying to hide something and you're

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 1>barely keeping it, and that's not a problem, you know,

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I think, although, of course, as we all know, Hollywood

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>is packed full of evil killers that's keeping it do.

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>What I love is when they say, you know, the

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood community get together and do that, and I'm like,

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck are you talking about.

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 3>The community here? I wasn't advised.

0:28:57.040 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is that a thing? When they would say it,

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I had to someone say the Hollywood cocktails are kid,

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you're fucking mad. There's more people in a

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>meetings and there are drinking cocktails in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there is a certain like if I remember,

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 3>I had a publicist for a little bit, right, and

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 3>they really encourage you to go to these just like things,

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, And they don't make a

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<v Speaker 3>single lick of difference if you go to it or

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 3>if you don't go to.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't. I don't think it does. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that what happens. It's a little bit like the executivization

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>of things. Now that you know you and I both

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>as we've been on pitches together. Pitch it's like, you like,

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:39.479
<v Speaker 1>why are all these people here? I feel like there

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 1>were like eighteen people on a pitch that we just

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 1>did recently, right, I don't like what the fuck is? Look,

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 1>if we got an audience that big, I'll be happy. Yeah,

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 1>you'll be fucking lucky.

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 3>My favorite pitch that we did was for the Michael

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Bolton special that we might have been Tricky, which was

0:29:56.280 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 3>literally we we did a mock up poster of Michaelton

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:04.719
<v Speaker 3>shirtless on a bed and we took it to Netflix

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 3>and said, it's just this.

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>They put it and they were like, okay, yeah, you

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>know what. I feel like I would have too. It's

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>someone inspired. How did you did you have to say

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>it to Michael Bolton?

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<v Speaker 3>No, he wanted to do it. It was it was

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 3>it was more of like he he approached Akiva. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you know Akiva Schaffer of the Lonely Island. I know

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 3>who you're talking about. He's great. So they approached Kiva

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 3>to see if if he wanted to do some sort

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 3>of special and Akiva said, like, well, if I were

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 3>doing it, I would do like a parody of specials,

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 3>and I would call it like Michael Bolton's Big Sexy

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Valentine's Day. And I think I would want to do

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 3>it with Scott because he would understand that. He would

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 3>understand it, and he does that kind of stuff on

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 3>his show. So like he goes, I don't really know

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 3>how to do it, So I think if we did

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 3>it together, it would be fun, and they went, yeah,

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:00.120
<v Speaker 3>that sounds great to us, and so.

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 1>We just kind of it was this is great.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye, it was so fun because we had no parameters

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 3>of anything to do, and.

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Michael Bowle looked great. You know. It's why I think

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to do with these roast things.

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I don't know why.

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Why would you ever do it? I can't connect to

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>it at all?

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, like, like, why would if you're Tom Brady, right,

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 3>why are you doing this?

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Well?

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.239
<v Speaker 3>I asked someone that exact same question the other day

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 3>and they said, money. I think Tom Brady must he

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 3>has money, right, Yeah, he's got so much.

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't be that.

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 3>It must be like it's quest for fame.

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>He's pretty pretty famous, pretty famous?

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Quest for more fame I actually need. I really don't know.

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 3>It's it's baffles me.

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>It might be a manifestation of greed.

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Hmmm, one of the seven Deadly sins.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly so, because I feel like, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at just like straight up greed, like you know

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 1>people who have billions like Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerberg

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>or you know the like the big name money players,

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what the fuck are you doing with all that?

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>How could you even?

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>What does it matter at that point? Why could you

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 1>possibly want? You can? In twenty lifetimes? You couldn't get

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 1>through it?

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Do you find that you were like, where are you

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 3>in terms of like what you want to achieve in life?

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 3>Have you done it? Have you done everything?

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Or do you still?

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that.

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 3>You don't think so.

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's I don't think that's healthy, have you? So?

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 3>So there are still mountains that you'd like to climb.

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily in career terms, you know, like, oh if

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>only I could get you know that? Yeah? I don't.

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I have that anymore. But I think

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that's I'm very grateful to Late Night and

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I wonder because you've been very successful in this in

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood as well, in a kind of sideways way that

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you probably didn't expect, which is exactly what happened to me.

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I never expect to have a TV show.

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 3>At a certain point I gave up.

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I never expected to have. Really I wanted like

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>success was one thing, like you would be in a

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>movie and with Sandra Bullock or something, and that was

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>that was how you would be successful. And so I

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>had this kind of slightways thing. But what it did,

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 1>and I wondered if it did this to you, is

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>it demystified the entire thing you managed to douschbag ratio

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 1>amongst the mega successful. It's exactly the same as in

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 1>the average Danny's I.

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 3>Think I I sort of once I got my TV

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 3>show and then I won a couple of Emmy's, I

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 3>would something in terms of career was like, oh I

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 3>don't need it switched off for me, where I was like,

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 3>oh okay, I kind of I did want to direct

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 3>a movie, so I directed the Between two Ferns movies.

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 1>So I still did you like doing that?

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Uh, for the most part, it was fun. Did it

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 3>come out the way I wanted it to? Not really

0:33:59.120 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 3>exactly what.

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Happened me really, I directed one movie.

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Which movie?

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>It was a movie called I'll Be There. Directed it

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>in two thousands. I wrote the script I'm in the movie.

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I directed the movie, and I don't

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 1>like it.

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:16.359
<v Speaker 3>You don't like it? Yeah, it's hard. It's it's very hard.

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 3>There's this like just kind of magic thing that you're

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 3>it's like a magic trick you're trying to achieve, and

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 3>then it's so easy to fuck it up. And people

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 3>people like my movie and stuff like that, and I.

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I I got the same thing as well, won some

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 1>of the awards here and there.

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 3>But it was like, I'm kind of embarrassed by it

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 3>in a northerway because I'm like, that's no, it's I'm not.

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 3>I guess I'm not embarrassed by mine as much as

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, because it's good, all right, Well, but

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 3>but I but I do look at it and go like, fuck,

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 3>if only I had known this, Like so many of

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 3>my projects are like if only I had known this

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 3>in retrospect, in hindsight, now I know a different choic

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 3>I would have made, like the only thing that I

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 3>really have put out that I've been proud of just

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 3>totally was I think my TV show where I was

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.399
<v Speaker 3>like made all the right choices. I feel like I did.

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 1>That's great. I did the best I could. Yeah, I

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>did well. You know, I kind of feel the same

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:19.879
<v Speaker 1>way about mine too. But the Late Night so yeah,

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>it was like, by and large, I think that was

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 1>that hits. Yeah.

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's tough, but but yeah, at a certain

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:29.879
<v Speaker 3>point in my forties, I was kind of like, oh,

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.800
<v Speaker 3>you know what, I sort of don't have that clawing

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:36.760
<v Speaker 3>need of you know, filling the hole in my soul

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 3>with career. You know, you know whatever hole that was.

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 3>You go, Phill doubla, Come, I want money.

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a couple of Emmys in a better cash and

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, and you feel a little better. Let anyone

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:49.280
<v Speaker 1>tell you differently, you know, it's like, oh, awards mean nothing,

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 1>they do, but there's still not if you've.

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 3>Never won any like award, you're kind of like going,

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 3>it would be nice to get up there on stage

0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 3>and actually like hold the thing. Yeah, you know what

0:35:59.719 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 1>And then when you get up there and hold the

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:03.280
<v Speaker 1>thing's fucking great.

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 3>And I did a funny speech and so I was like, you.

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Weren't excited, and people liked it and were happy for you. Yeah,

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I know, it's great. Yeah, I loved it. Yeah, I

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 1>mean would I do it again? Yes? Yes I would.

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 3>Do they give awords for something like this? Can we

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:18.840
<v Speaker 3>win together?

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know? Maybe probably?

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 3>Can we hold hands as we go up on?

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing. I got one. This is a

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 1>great one. I got one from Scottish BAFTA, which is

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 1>the British British Academy Film and Television Arts.

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:32.839
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I knew the bee right, So they have a Scottish

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>one of it, and I'm bouta. I think it's Safta

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:41.879
<v Speaker 1>bafts of the Sabbafta or something. But it's the kind

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 1>of divisional thing. It's in Scotland and.

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 3>It's like the daytime Emmys kind of When I went

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 3>for a game show, I called my mom. I said,

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 3>I want an Emmy form my games woman. She went, ah, Daytammy,

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 3>Thanks thanks mom.

0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Do you is your mom still around?

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 3>My mom is, yes. My father passed away six months ago.

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, I'm sorry. That's still very sore.

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:07.399
<v Speaker 3>No, it was all right, it was it was yeah,

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.800
<v Speaker 3>it was okay. It was obviously a sad time, but

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 3>it was like kind of expected. He's been hanging on

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 3>since nineteen eighty one. I feel like, so, what was

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 3>if he had a strange operation to take care of

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:25.879
<v Speaker 3>something in his throat? Pardon me if I'm not using

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:29.400
<v Speaker 3>the correct medical terminology, but I think throats is correct, right,

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 3>it is correct, and procedure procedure doctors something that I've heard.

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 3>But it was supposed to be just a like minor thing.

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 3>And my mom came to the hospital and they said, well,

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 3>we think he's going to survive. What And she was

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 3>like what, and like something with his throat had gone wrong,

0:37:57.000 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 3>and so they used part of his in to be

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 3>his throat. They like took part of his coalon to make.

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't they need permission to do that? Well, who knows?

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 3>It's nineteen eighty one. Differently, yeah, I'm not sure who

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:15.279
<v Speaker 3>they would. I think they called his teachers at school. Yeah,

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.799
<v Speaker 3>but no, yeah, so they they had just to save

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 3>his life. They had done this, and so he pulled through.

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 3>It was like a weird summer. I think it was

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 3>eighty two actually, but ever since then, he just had

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 3>issues with his throat. He had to sleep like sort

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 3>of sitting up at forty five degree angle, and he

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 3>had trouble gaining weight because food wouldn't get down there.

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 3>Agu when this happens, I'm twelve. Yeah, so you're destined

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 3>for a career in comedy because the trauma now is like, right,

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 3>it's real it. I mean, it never really felt incredibly.

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:55.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean I was shuveled around to parental friends that

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 3>whole summer, sure, but they never really told me how

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 3>serious it was, right, So I think I was just

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of in my like, yeah, everything's great, everything will

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 3>be fine, you know. And it turned out it was

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 3>relatively fine. But it was one of these things for

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 3>forty years. It was like an issue.

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>That's it's a long time to be dealing with whatever,

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 1>the mysterious thing.

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 3>This is right, But my mom? Why did you ask

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 3>about my mom?

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Was she because?

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because of your your mom. Yeah, my mom had

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 3>the classic line when I was I did musical theater

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 3>when I was in my early twenties and I did

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 3>Curly in Oklahoma, and she came to see it, and

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.800
<v Speaker 3>she'd been to all my shows and she said you

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 3>were really good. I mean, for the first time I

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 3>felt like you actually met what you were saying.

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, yeah, comedies for you. You know,

0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:49.040
<v Speaker 1>it is the I mean, I've said this a million

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 1>times in this podcast, but it's like there is a

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:55.800
<v Speaker 1>there is a resonance with humorists, whether they're male or female,

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 1>with their mothers.

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean my mother was very sort of sure,

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 3>there's nothing to do with a lack of love or support,

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 3>but also backhanded.

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's there's a there's a weird I mean, I

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>love my mom and she was supportive in the way

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 1>that she understood. But she still with us. No, No,

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 1>she died years ago. She but she did not understand

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 1>show business at all. And I did my father. Did

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 1>your family understand that we grew up.

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 3>You know, just forty five minutes south of LA So

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 3>I think that they, I mean they sort of. It

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 3>just seemed very far away, even though it was only

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 3>forty five minutes away Hollywood. But my dad, I think

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:37.759
<v Speaker 3>was very interested in it because he would sometimes like

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 3>take me to lunch and pitch me like an idea

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:42.800
<v Speaker 3>for a show or a movie. I remember once he

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 3>business his profession. He was a helicopter pilot in Vietnam,

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 3>and then he flew privately for a little while, and

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 3>then he went into the aerospace industry where he would

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 3>make like the overhead compartments for planes and stuff like that.

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 3>So he but he I feel like he was sort

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:05.800
<v Speaker 3>of a frustrated artist in a way, because he would

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:10.320
<v Speaker 3>like sometimes I would find he he had written like

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:14.759
<v Speaker 3>newspaper columns, like humorous newspaper columns, like like where he

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 3>was trying to like, you know, work out something, some

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 3>sort of you know, in the at his church, he

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:24.320
<v Speaker 3>would be in plays and he would sing and oh, clearly,

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, I feel like, yeah, I feel like there

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 3>was an impulse, and so I feel like he was.

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:33.879
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that he ever was appreciative of any

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 3>of the stuff I made necessarily, but like I think

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:41.919
<v Speaker 3>I worked on the movie Shark Tale for a couple

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 3>of years kind of thinking like, you know, I've done

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.360
<v Speaker 3>all this adult humor. Here's something my parents can appreciate.

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 3>I took him to the premiere and after the lights

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 3>came up, my dad was like, well, that wasn't very good,

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 3>was it.

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 1>It was like, really, okay, that's funny.

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Is my Sharktail must be almost twenty years ago.

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:03.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah too, Yeah, because I remember taking my oldest boy

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:05.880
<v Speaker 1>to see shark Tail when it come out, and he.

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Loved it so in the community thank him.

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what I.

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 3>Loved Sharktail too, as I remember it was that was

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:20.799
<v Speaker 3>that Will Smith? Will smithree pre slap Will Smith? Yeah, yeah,

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 3>o slap. He hasn't done a lot.

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Of It's hard to be the funny guy once you

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>hit someone. I know. I always try to remember that

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 1>when I'm frustrated.

0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever been close to being physically assaulted on stage?

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I have been, really really What happened when I

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 1>was drinking. I played a town called Dunfermline the Scotland.

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 3>And and this is stand up.

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did some stand up that apparently didn't go

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>down well with the locals.

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 3>How did they?

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>They came up and got me as I was trying

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>to get out in a taxi. They threw a rock

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:03.360
<v Speaker 1>in at the back of the taxi, broke the window

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 1>and I had to pay for the taxi drivers.

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it was.

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 1>It was a very expensive evening for me. No, but

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I survived. Have you ever been assaulted on today?

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:12.320
<v Speaker 3>It was spit on once.

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that I counted. I mean, I mean

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:20.400
<v Speaker 1>then yeah a lot, Yeah, just spit on.

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 3>There was one guy stand up.

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 1>You didn't stand up at this point that.

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Was like sketch stuff. Someone got it very offended at

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:29.720
<v Speaker 3>the subject matter. I think, and and like I asked

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 3>what it was. I can't really remember. It was something.

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is like doing stuff at the UCB

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:36.319
<v Speaker 3>Theater where like everything is kind of.

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Is that the one in Hollywood? Yeah, I love that

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:40.760
<v Speaker 1>little space. That's such a good theater.

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I Benchwartz wrote me to start going to do.

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:48.399
<v Speaker 3>His show first snow snow Pants. Yeah and yeah Ben Swartz. Okay,

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 3>so he asks me to do snow pants and he goes,

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:52.719
<v Speaker 3>I know you don't really do improv, but I'm going

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 3>to take care of you.

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's not going to do that.

0:43:56.840 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 3>So I do with jj Abrams and I get out

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 3>there and no one else is like stepping forward to

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 3>establish a scene with Ben. So I know someone asked you.

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 3>So I walk out there and I go, so, hey, uh,

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:12.839
<v Speaker 3>and I said, I forget what I said, and Ben goes,

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 3>that's what you're going to start the scene. I'm like,

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 3>you're not doing it. And then j J abrams destroys

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 3>and does like various scenes in different characters. He does

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 3>a singing improv bitch stop it. It was that's crazy.

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:28.839
<v Speaker 3>It really made me feel bad.

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when I was doing I did a couple of

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 1>times with him. It felt like I loved it though,

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:36.439
<v Speaker 1>and I felt like I was with the cool kids

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 1>for a while. Yeah, I was at UCB. I you're

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:46.839
<v Speaker 1>probably UCP, right, Yeah, I did.

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 3>I produced a show there for about ten years.

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was always very jealous of that because I

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I felt like that that's the cool people. It was fun.

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:58.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we obviously would have had you come do

0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:00.799
<v Speaker 3>it if you know, we had no how to reach

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 3>you who you were. No, we had people like Robin

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:06.879
<v Speaker 3>Williams hung out there for a long time and would

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 3>come do shows with Robins.

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Robin.

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 3>I became friendly with Robin after he was in the

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Late Night Show and he I mean, obviously he knows this,

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 3>but he loved to just get up anytime. He was

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:21.799
<v Speaker 3>very supportive. He would sometimes watch shows that we were

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 3>doing and I would say, like, do you want to

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 3>come out and do it? He goes, No, one wants

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 3>to see me you guys are doing fine by by yourself.

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 3>You know, he would just want to watch.

0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, he was lovely. Did you become friendly and

0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:34.839
<v Speaker 1>anyways you spend any time with him?

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:36.359
<v Speaker 3>Friendly in a way of like I did a few

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 3>shows with him. He would know who I was when

0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 3>you saw me, but you know, not not ever like

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 3>hanging out other than backstage, right.

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:47.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I suppose that was the extent of my hanging

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:49.360
<v Speaker 1>out with him as well, with backstage of theaters.

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 3>But he uh, yeah, that was a tough one. Yeah,

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:58.319
<v Speaker 3>when Robin went so nice, Yeah, he was really nice.

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:01.279
<v Speaker 3>He was a guy like another info on you know. Yes,

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 3>I told him about the day he did work from

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:08.919
<v Speaker 3>work on Happy Days and I was a huge, huge

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 3>Happy Days fan. And I'm probably nine or ten or

0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:16.719
<v Speaker 3>something like that. And I remember being on Errand's with

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 3>my mother the next day and she hadn't seen it,

0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 3>and telling her the entire plot, with every joke of

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 3>him on Happy Days. And we were going through like

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:28.840
<v Speaker 3>a checkout line and the checkout person goes like, sounds

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:31.359
<v Speaker 3>like someone's a Happy Days last night, and it made

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 3>me feel kind of bad. Anyway, I told him that story.

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 3>I told him that story on Sage. There's a funny

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:39.280
<v Speaker 3>picture of him, like with his hand on my knee

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:41.439
<v Speaker 3>saying like, oh, thank you so much.

0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Know, it's funny because he was one of the non

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>demystifiers for me. The other one was at Carrie Fisher.

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:53.920
<v Speaker 1>That someone that you admire so much and then you

0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:58.319
<v Speaker 1>meet them and they don't disappoint you. That I think

0:46:59.080 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 1>is one of.

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:04.120
<v Speaker 3>The the dangers of being in show business, particularly if

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 3>you're doing what you and I have done in kind

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 3>of slightly different ways, which she's interacting with a lot

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 3>of people that you've probably been aware of for a

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.239
<v Speaker 3>long time. Yeah, every once in a while, there will

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 3>be someone that you work with that you've really grown

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 3>up loving and it'll be kind of a bummer, you

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:23.239
<v Speaker 3>know what. No, of course not, but that Ferguson. Yeah.

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 1>But you know what's weird now is I get people

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:28.319
<v Speaker 1>say to me, I grew up watching you and I'm

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:30.879
<v Speaker 1>like and they're like forty, I'm like, what the hell

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? Yeah, it's like, oh my god,

0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>but I uh, I don't know. There was there was

0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 1>on Late Night. I would never allow the bookers to

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 1>even approach David boy just really case, just in case,

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.319
<v Speaker 1>because what he said, yes, just in case, he said

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:49.840
<v Speaker 1>by all accounts apparently he was great, but I don't know.

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:54.840
<v Speaker 3>You hear so many stories of him, uh, like I

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 3>just heard. I feel like Dave Wakeling of the English

0:47:57.640 --> 0:48:00.359
<v Speaker 3>Bead just told the story last week of I haven't

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:03.120
<v Speaker 3>had no while I just saw him performing. He was like, yeah,

0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:07.879
<v Speaker 3>I met David Bowie at whatever after doing a show,

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:09.640
<v Speaker 3>and he ran up to me and said, I want

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 3>you to be my opening actor, the greatest opening act

0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 3>I've ever seen, or something.

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Like that, And it's kind of like sideways compliments.

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.560
<v Speaker 3>You're not one of headliner head I think he was

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 3>over time man. But yeah, by all accounts great, But yeah,

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 3>it's I've been disappointed a couple of times with people

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 3>and it's like and it's it's hard not to watch them.

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:34.480
<v Speaker 3>They're old.

0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I try.

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:38.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm good at compartmentalizing though, so I can still find stuff.

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:41.400
<v Speaker 3>People ask me like, why do you still can you

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:44.200
<v Speaker 3>still listen to Michael Jackson records? And it's like so

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 3>much of art is a conversation I feel like, between

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:51.360
<v Speaker 3>not only the artist but also your your younger self

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 3>when you first heard.

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:55.160
<v Speaker 1>It or watched it or something like that. Yeah. I

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:58.320
<v Speaker 1>mean it's a great topic and one that fascinates me

0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:02.200
<v Speaker 1>is the art and the artist. So the idea of

0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, uh, the Castle would probably be in

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 1>jail for this relationship with Maritz, but you know it

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 1>was what do you do with that? It's everyone's gone and.

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:17.480
<v Speaker 3>At this point, yeah, everyone's gone, Like Michael Jackson has gone.

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 3>So I don't feel like me listening to his music

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:24.080
<v Speaker 3>is supporting him, yeah, financially or anything like that. Even

0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:27.440
<v Speaker 3>like so R Kelly, he's in jail.

0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 1>He's in jail, so he's not making money.

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:31.520
<v Speaker 3>He's not making money.

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 1>R Kelly fan I wasn't really aware of much.

0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, it's can you listen to me?

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:38.440
<v Speaker 3>You know anyone like that who was a monster?

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Is it still okay? And I think Nick Cave had pulp.

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Fiction Harvey Weinstein, you know what, I'm like, what are

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you gonna do?

0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:48.239
<v Speaker 3>Nick Cave had an interesting thing to say about this,

0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:51.840
<v Speaker 3>which because I think he was talking about Morrissey and

0:49:52.000 --> 0:49:54.880
<v Speaker 3>how like right wing Morrissey is now and.

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:59.359
<v Speaker 1>He's gone to Phil Church show, He's made the Phil journey.

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 3>And so and I think he was saying, like so

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:05.279
<v Speaker 3>much of music is just like thinking about how you

0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:07.279
<v Speaker 3>felt when you first heard it and thinking about your

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:09.279
<v Speaker 3>younger self and stuff like that. So he was saying like,

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:10.520
<v Speaker 3>it's not.

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:13.239
<v Speaker 1>And also where the artist was at that time too.

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, you've been doing this for long enough

0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 1>to surely have written something that you look at it

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:23.960
<v Speaker 1>now and go, oh fuck. I would not write that.

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:28.200
<v Speaker 3>When Mister Show went on HBO, Max, I got a

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:29.719
<v Speaker 3>lot of people going like, oh my god, I'd never

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:31.440
<v Speaker 3>seen Mister Show when I was catching up with it,

0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 3>and I'm always like.

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Nineties I Show I miss the show was was just

0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:43.239
<v Speaker 1>coming on. I had moved to America in ninety five

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 1>and Mister Show coming on and Bob and David. I

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 1>felt like, I'll never be cool enough to even meet

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:51.240
<v Speaker 1>those guys.

0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:54.399
<v Speaker 3>They did you ever actually then meet? Yeah?

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 1>And that I met both.

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's pretty cool.

0:50:56.680 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 1>It's fine. I don't know how cool I am. I'm

0:50:59.280 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 1>cool enough.

0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:01.120
<v Speaker 3>They're not very cool.

0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:05.720
<v Speaker 1>It's funny that I remember one of the last Bob

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Bob Bob oden Kirk. His son went to the same

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:12.960
<v Speaker 1>school as one of my boys went and he's a

0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:16.360
<v Speaker 1>little bit older. So yes, And I was at the

0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:19.040
<v Speaker 1>parking lot the first day of when my son started

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:21.280
<v Speaker 1>going to the school, and they were at the school

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:23.480
<v Speaker 1>bus and I got out with my son and got

0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:25.080
<v Speaker 1>him onto the bus, and Bob was still in this

0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 1>car because he'd been doing it for a year, and

0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I was walking back to McCarty wound down the window.

0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:37.200
<v Speaker 1>He said, nobody gets out of the car. Craig characteristically

0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:42.400
<v Speaker 1>aggressive for he was. There was humor in it, but

0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 1>like he's not really one of those aggressive so I

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of I'm so. I think it's an age thing

0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:54.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe as well. Do you you find now that you

0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:58.880
<v Speaker 1>think nobody fucking knows what is that old Bill Goldman thing.

0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Nobody knows what's going on. Nobody knows what was going

0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:03.360
<v Speaker 1>to be funny or what was going to be successful.

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:06.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Yeah, I mean those those guys, Bob

0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:10.320
<v Speaker 3>and David were definitely like huge. They're one of the

0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:13.120
<v Speaker 3>reasons I started just doing comedy anyway, is because I

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:15.279
<v Speaker 3>saw one of their shows. Yeah, at the same time

0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 3>that like three things happen, I saw their show, I

0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:23.320
<v Speaker 3>watched an Andy Kaufman special, and then my friend that

0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 3>week said, hey, I hate your latest script, but my

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 3>my roommate's a comedian and I've always thought maybe you

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:33.800
<v Speaker 3>could do comedy. Do you want to do the comedy

0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:37.160
<v Speaker 3>Store in the show that she's in. I was like, yeah, okay,

0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:40.120
<v Speaker 3>like those three like yeah, those three things happening in

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:40.759
<v Speaker 3>the same week.

0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Were it's a sign of a prime mover in your life.

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a Do you have a religious and

0:52:47.880 --> 0:52:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you told me your dad going to church. I wondered

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:52.799
<v Speaker 1>if the Yeah, I grew up in the church. Which church,

0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:57.480
<v Speaker 1>like Baptist Church? Okay, fairly joyful setup. Is it more

0:52:57.560 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 1>than Scottish Presbyterians? Yeah, oh yeah, we're you.

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like the rituals and no, there's not that

0:53:03.239 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 3>much was there, like liturgy of the Eucharist.

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Probably yeah, they they I mean there's the biscuit, but

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:13.279
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't tourn into Jesus. It just represents Jesus. That'd

0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:14.160
<v Speaker 1>be the same with Baptists.

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:16.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we have the tiny, tiny like little way for like.

0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Tiny little way. Well nobody nobody's getting a burger.

0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:22.400
<v Speaker 3>See, maybe I would go to church if it was like, hey,

0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:23.839
<v Speaker 3>everyone gets a burger when you're here.

0:53:24.120 --> 0:53:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm sure there are some. Do you do you

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:29.640
<v Speaker 1>have a religious connection that is it something that you.

0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:31.680
<v Speaker 3>It was one of those things where I grew up

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 3>and it was just accepted as like, this is true, right,

0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:39.600
<v Speaker 3>And I always had this voice in the back of

0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:42.160
<v Speaker 3>my head going like, yeah, but these are really weird

0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:47.680
<v Speaker 3>stories that yeah, you know, like the whole okay, So

0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 3>God is perfect, so and humans chose to sin. So

0:53:56.239 --> 0:53:59.520
<v Speaker 3>in order to make it cool for humans to go

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:03.320
<v Speaker 3>up to heaven after they die, God split himself into

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:07.319
<v Speaker 3>two and made himself also his son and then sent

0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:09.759
<v Speaker 3>his son down and his son could have sinned, but

0:54:09.840 --> 0:54:13.600
<v Speaker 3>he never did, and then they killed him and then

0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:19.320
<v Speaker 3>he came back down for a spell, Like how well.

0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:22.560
<v Speaker 1>When you say it like that, so silly, But it

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:23.960
<v Speaker 1>just always was.

0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:25.680
<v Speaker 3>Kind of like I don't under that none of this

0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:27.120
<v Speaker 3>is really making sense to me.

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever read Julian by Gorvi Dal? I highly

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:32.600
<v Speaker 1>recommend it.

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:35.200
<v Speaker 3>It's about Julian Lennon.

0:54:35.400 --> 0:54:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Julian Lennon's about Julian Lennon, which is weird because I'm like,

0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:41.799
<v Speaker 1>he was just a kid. But he wrote this, Gordon,

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:42.360
<v Speaker 1>let's do.

0:54:42.440 --> 0:54:45.359
<v Speaker 3>The Jonlin, You're a good enough writer.

0:54:45.520 --> 0:54:48.280
<v Speaker 1>He wrote it in nineteen sixty four, when Julie Lennon

0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:50.399
<v Speaker 1>was maybe two years old. I mean I hadn't done

0:54:50.400 --> 0:54:55.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Yeah, it's about Julian Augustus, Julian the Apostate,

0:54:55.440 --> 0:55:01.440
<v Speaker 1>who after he was the Emperor Constantine's grandson. So there

0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 1>was Constantine and constant Titus and then Julian the Emperor,

0:55:06.120 --> 0:55:10.320
<v Speaker 1>and he was the last Augustus of the whole before

0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:12.480
<v Speaker 1>they split it, you know, one in the east, one

0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:17.040
<v Speaker 1>in the west. And he tried to return the Roman

0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Empire back to Hellenistic Hellenistic you know, pagan religions, Zeus

0:55:22.400 --> 0:55:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and Apollo and all that stuff. And he was doing

0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:26.320
<v Speaker 1>all that.

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<v Speaker 3>His feeling was that had everything since everything was Christian,

0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 3>everything was because he was trying to go he was

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:35.480
<v Speaker 3>trying to get about enough about this christ guy. I

0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:36.600
<v Speaker 3>remember all these great.

0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:39.239
<v Speaker 1>What about the ones we used to have, you know,

0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:42.480
<v Speaker 1>like Apollo, Zeus, all those guys, And he tried to

0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:51.200
<v Speaker 1>bring that back, but also allowed Christianity because Rome, contrary

0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:54.040
<v Speaker 1>to what you hear now, was like they had no

0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:56.440
<v Speaker 1>problem with what religion you were. It's it was about

0:55:56.840 --> 0:55:58.920
<v Speaker 1>if you paid tax, and it was the real problem,

0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:02.560
<v Speaker 1>you know. But the way that Gorvi Dao writes it

0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:06.879
<v Speaker 1>is a real I mean, it's scathing about Christianity, scathing

0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:09.759
<v Speaker 1>about the birth of Christianity, not the birth of it,

0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:11.440
<v Speaker 1>but the incorporation of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't have a I really don't have an

0:56:16.160 --> 0:56:20.080
<v Speaker 3>issue with anything that makes a person feel peace or comfort.

0:56:20.120 --> 0:56:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I agree.

0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:24.480
<v Speaker 3>I get nothing against that, even stuff like scientology. I

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:28.759
<v Speaker 3>maybe have quibbles with some of their methods, but I

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:31.920
<v Speaker 3>can bibble with a lot of it any But in

0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:34.839
<v Speaker 3>terms of a belief system, if anything makes someone feel better,

0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:37.600
<v Speaker 3>I think I'm fine with it. What I just really

0:56:37.640 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 3>don't like about everything is the trying to make everyone

0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:44.920
<v Speaker 3>else exactly the same what they are.

0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like you got to believe in what I believe, yes,

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:53.000
<v Speaker 1>or you are an impost and are the enemy. Yes.

0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:57.280
<v Speaker 3>So America, as far as I'm concerned, is like supposed

0:56:57.320 --> 0:56:59.680
<v Speaker 3>to be everyone believe whatever you want and we'll all

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:00.440
<v Speaker 3>get a right.

0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:01.360
<v Speaker 1>That's the idea.

0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:04.120
<v Speaker 3>That's the idea. And where you know, even if you

0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:06.680
<v Speaker 3>have a neighbor who's like sort of cuckoo, You're like, hey,

0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:09.600
<v Speaker 3>we still care for you. You're you're fine. Yeah, But

0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:12.400
<v Speaker 3>what's the trouble is is like the people who who

0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 3>inform their religious beliefs on laws and stuff like that,

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:18.840
<v Speaker 3>is where it starts to be, like, look, I understand

0:57:18.960 --> 0:57:24.240
<v Speaker 3>you don't believe in abortion. That's great, So don't get

0:57:24.600 --> 0:57:26.640
<v Speaker 3>an abortion, right, you know what I mean? Like, but

0:57:26.760 --> 0:57:30.600
<v Speaker 3>don't don't start to just impose your stuff on us.

0:57:31.040 --> 0:57:34.320
<v Speaker 1>It's it's abortion is a really really tricky one because

0:57:34.360 --> 0:57:37.240
<v Speaker 1>you're never going to change anyone's mind. Yeah, and that's

0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:40.320
<v Speaker 1>that's where you go. It's a real goody.

0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:40.520
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you get through that.

0:57:42.080 --> 0:57:44.160
<v Speaker 3>It's so weird because it wasn't even like really an

0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:47.360
<v Speaker 3>issue until it was this, Yeah, until it was.

0:57:47.680 --> 0:57:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know. I mean, you know, do you

0:57:49.400 --> 0:57:51.400
<v Speaker 1>remember the movie Dirty Dancing? Yeah?

0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:52.360
<v Speaker 3>I do, as a matter of fact.

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because then that they got a pretty big good

0:57:55.280 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 1>story about abortion and dirty dancing. And in fact, everyone

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:04.800
<v Speaker 1>should see that movie again because it goes okay, but

0:58:05.080 --> 0:58:09.680
<v Speaker 1>also you know, okay, you know that's what I loved

0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:12.120
<v Speaker 1>that that should have been on the poster dirty Dad.

0:58:12.240 --> 0:58:19.480
<v Speaker 1>So okay, okay, but this is why my movie sucked, because.

0:58:20.600 --> 0:58:24.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, but do you remember the tagline of your movie?

0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Was there one?

0:58:25.520 --> 0:58:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Do you have the poster somewhere?

0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:58:26.960 --> 0:58:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Fuck, I'm sure somebody mine was. There's nowhere he won't go.

0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I did one for Warner Brothers. This is a movie

0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:37.560
<v Speaker 1>that actually was quite proud. I didn't direct this movie.

0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:39.760
<v Speaker 1>But then a movie called The Big Teas, which was

0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:43.160
<v Speaker 1>about a Scottish hairdresser that comes to Los Angeles to

0:58:43.240 --> 0:58:45.200
<v Speaker 1>take part in the World Hairdressing competition.

0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:46.200
<v Speaker 3>I sort of remember this.

0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I played it. Yeah, yeah, And I stand by

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the movie. It's funny movie. But because it was nineteen

0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:57.480
<v Speaker 1>ninety eight and the character I was playing was gay

0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and the sympathetic character, there was no yes other than

0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:04.920
<v Speaker 1>he was a gay man. But it was an R.

0:59:05.120 --> 0:59:07.360
<v Speaker 3>It was rated R just for the fact that it

0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:09.960
<v Speaker 3>was for the fact content, the fact that it was

0:59:10.120 --> 0:59:11.080
<v Speaker 3>still mature contact.

0:59:11.160 --> 0:59:13.200
<v Speaker 1>It was just the fact that he was a gay character.

0:59:13.560 --> 0:59:15.480
<v Speaker 1>This is before Will and Grace was on TV or

0:59:15.480 --> 0:59:19.240
<v Speaker 1>anything like that. And the I wanted to put on

0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:23.120
<v Speaker 1>the log line of the poster he came, he combed,

0:59:23.200 --> 0:59:26.400
<v Speaker 1>he conquered right right. They wouldn't put it on because

0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:30.640
<v Speaker 1>they said he came sounds like he came right sex

0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:33.520
<v Speaker 1>and he's gay. I'm like what, so they on the

0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:37.000
<v Speaker 1>log line that says he saw, he combed, he conquered.

0:59:37.000 --> 0:59:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Like that, that doesn't make any sense at all. It's like,

0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:43.600
<v Speaker 3>you know how you get pringles the lovely chips out

0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:43.960
<v Speaker 3>of a can?

0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Right? Well, you know in like the dollar stores they

0:59:47.640 --> 0:59:53.320
<v Speaker 1>sell prongles, they do, and on prongles it doesn't say

0:59:54.120 --> 0:59:57.120
<v Speaker 1>it speaking of the game, right, he doesn't say like it.

0:59:57.320 --> 0:59:59.240
<v Speaker 1>On the pringles it says, once you pop, you can't

0:59:59.280 --> 1:00:01.240
<v Speaker 1>start right broncles.

1:00:01.480 --> 1:00:06.160
<v Speaker 3>It says, once you pop, that's great. Once you pop

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<v Speaker 3>that hey, but you great, and that you came reminded

1:00:11.760 --> 1:00:14.920
<v Speaker 3>me of Married to the Mob. I still remember that

1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:18.800
<v Speaker 3>the headboard in that just as v DVDVD, which is

1:00:19.200 --> 1:00:23.600
<v Speaker 3>because that's where he has sex with his guma. Very

1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:25.080
<v Speaker 3>that's very clever, that's very funny.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good Latin joke. Well listen, so here's my

1:00:27.680 --> 1:00:31.280
<v Speaker 1>pitch to you make a make a mini series of

1:00:31.440 --> 1:00:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Julian the Apostate by gor Vidal. I think it could

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<v Speaker 1>be hilarious and also a little bit game of thronesy interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you look at stuff like Game of Thrones

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<v Speaker 3>and show guns and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be very, very popular.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why anyone would want me to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>but because you're clever and what you make is good

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<v Speaker 3>and that's why I haven't even read the book.

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<v Speaker 1>Though this doesn't matter. I've read it, so I've read.

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<v Speaker 3>There telling me what I'm doing, right, I'll be already

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<v Speaker 3>page forty two it says this, and you go, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>that will change, alright, we'll put yeah, yeah, we'll do that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a joy talking to you. I wish you

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<v Speaker 1>could go longer. Can we do it again? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>I would love that. Yes, And if you ever would

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<v Speaker 3>want to do my show, and it's a lot dred

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<v Speaker 3>percent ridiculousness, No, I one.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundred percent would want to do your show. And actually

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of now legally you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>me on because a podcast swap of course. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. It's like it's what they used to do,

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<v Speaker 1>sitcom crossover episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did you see the Two and a Half Men CSI?

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<v Speaker 3>That's awesome. The writing staff from cs I wrote the

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<v Speaker 3>two and a half Man and vice versa. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>it's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I did one with the Big Bang Theory.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh interesting? Where I with the Big Bank? Oh? Meaning

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<v Speaker 3>your show and the Big Bank?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I went on the Big Bang Theory. Were

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<v Speaker 1>they on me? I can't remember, but there was this.

1:01:51.440 --> 1:01:53.880
<v Speaker 1>We were on their set and I had applied for

1:01:54.000 --> 1:01:58.160
<v Speaker 1>the job to be Sheldon's friend and I didn't get it.

1:01:59.000 --> 1:02:02.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like one and see, like, oh fuck.

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<v Speaker 3>We were trying to do one with Mark Maron show

1:02:04.440 --> 1:02:06.960
<v Speaker 3>on my show, Oh yeah, and he shut it down.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was going to be, uh like because we

1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:12.920
<v Speaker 3>were back to back and I would love that when

1:02:12.960 --> 1:02:15.600
<v Speaker 3>I was young watching shows interact, you know, so like

1:02:16.000 --> 1:02:17.440
<v Speaker 3>he was going to be on my show and then

1:02:17.480 --> 1:02:18.800
<v Speaker 3>I was going to be on his show, and then

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<v Speaker 3>eventually it all just like went away because he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was. I did one with Drew Carrey on

1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:28.680
<v Speaker 1>The Prices Right and myso as a special, really wacky thing.

1:02:29.440 --> 1:02:33.040
<v Speaker 1>CBS let me host The Prices Right and let Drew

1:02:33.160 --> 1:02:34.479
<v Speaker 1>host my show.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it wasn't bad.

1:02:37.000 --> 1:02:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Was it fun to host The Prices Right and do

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<v Speaker 3>all those games and stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Really?

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<v Speaker 3>Was?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it? Really? Yeah? I felt like I was like

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<v Speaker 1>I got to shore driving the Space Shuttle or so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think when celebrities you see them on these game

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<v Speaker 3>shows these days, and they all have to play for charities,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, let them keep them money, let.

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<v Speaker 1>Them keep them money, I know what I mean. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm in, yeah, yeah, like I give money, Jarny, sure, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Make some you'll give ten percent of it maybe to charity.

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<v Speaker 3>Like let's have a celebrities give, you know, ten percent

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<v Speaker 3>to charity, and the other night he goes and another

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<v Speaker 3>night goes to the celebrity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why you're warned. Yes, exactly. I think that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well we got that sorted. You'll see me

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<v Speaker 1>next on Comedy Backpack.

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<v Speaker 3>You see it and see it