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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jet Podcast. Hope

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Speaker 1: everyone's been enjoying the podcast profile series. I know we have.

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Speaker 1: It's been a been a fun project throughout the off season,

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Speaker 1: and to be able to share it is great. Now

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Speaker 1: we're getting really into the thick of things training camp

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Speaker 1: around the corner. We're gonna talk about some training camp items,

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Speaker 1: maybe some position battles, and then we have Steve Wish

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. On a sad note, because Wish wrote

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Speaker 1: this great article on NFL dot com detailing the life

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Speaker 1: of Greg Knapp, who passed away at fifty eight years old,

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Speaker 1: and of course was gonna have a prevalent role here

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Speaker 1: with the Jets as an assistant coach. I think the

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Speaker 1: New York Jets organization from the top down, they start

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Speaker 1: training camp with heavy hearts. If you read what people

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Speaker 1: have said about Greg Knapp of late, it's amazing the

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Speaker 1: connection he had with people, staffers, following, fellow coaches, the player.

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Speaker 1: He loved teaching, and he also was a guy who

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Speaker 1: had a smile on his face everyday, lived life with

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Speaker 1: a tremendous passion. And I think there's a lot to

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Speaker 1: learn from a guy like Greg Knapp because he connected

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Speaker 1: the National Football League he was entering his twenty six season,

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Speaker 1: but beyond that, he left such a legacy that a

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Speaker 1: lot of people who came into his life they exited

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Speaker 1: it that meeting or that introduction or those experiences better people.

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Speaker 1: And I think you saw the impact he had on

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Speaker 1: just based on players reactions on social media. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Jack Wilson of course worked a lot with Greg Nap

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Speaker 1: I think you really saw the ripple effect that Greg

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna detail more with Steve Is, who I

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Speaker 1: think brought up a great point. You don't stay in

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Speaker 1: But training camp is around the corner, which is crazy

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Speaker 1: in the studio talking about Robert Sala as the new

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Speaker 1: forward about six months and he's about to take the

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Speaker 1: time in his first training camp. Yeah, and how about that,

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Speaker 1: it's been a quick forty days since the Jets finish

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Speaker 1: that final mini camp practice. In forty days, that's what's

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Speaker 1: Alla said. I think at the end in mini camp,

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Speaker 1: better yourself individually. And now the Jets are gonna come

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Speaker 1: respond to adversity because the Jets are a young team,

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Speaker 1: And also remember that this is the first training camp

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Speaker 1: two joint practices as it stands, one in Green Bay

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Speaker 1: Right now, it's like an acclamation period. When the players

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Speaker 1: I would say Carl Lawson because we weren't able to

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Speaker 1: And then don't forget about Jameson Crowder because he became

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Speaker 1: But Sala expects him to make plays in all the

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Speaker 1: in for a locker room and just relationships to have

431
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Speaker 1: somebody who's not trying to backstab another coach so he

432
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: can move up you know, the food chain or things

433
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: like that. And again, I think Napper just always being

434
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: secure and who he was and what he was was

435
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: vastly important to any coaching staff in any locker room.

436
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned in your previous answer about the

437
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: impact you thought Greg Knapp would have in this locker

438
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: room the youngest Jets team in twenty years in July.

439
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: You know what kind of coach we often talk about

440
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: the person Greg Napple was. What about the type of

441
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: coach and influence he had. Well, he he'd apair with

442
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: Michael for right, but they come from the same background

443
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: in terms of the offense that they want to run

444
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: West Coast principles, um, you know, with a lot of

445
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: the schematic tenants. He stretched his own run scheme things

446
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: like that, So I think you know what he would

447
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: be able to do. He was always the voice in

448
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: the ear like even if somebody else's offensive coordinator, he

449
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: tended to be the voice relaying that call into the

450
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: quarterbacks ear. So, let's say the quarterback just made a

451
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: terrible read on the play before he made come in

452
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: the call, say hey, don't worry about it, just get

453
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 1: onto the next play. We'll we'll fix it, you know,

454
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: the next time we have an opportunity. And so I

455
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: think with this locker room again, because he was so jovial.

456
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: You know, Nap was a real tall guy about six

457
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: war six five, had this kind of you know, old

458
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: school uh John Travolta, slicked back hair, um, you know.

459
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: And and he just would have been the type of

460
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: guy if you know, running back Mrs Block or has

461
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: itard just just struggles to a practice or something, He's

462
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: gonna say some things to make that player not think

463
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: about what has happened. Or if there's a dispute in

464
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: in a coaching room, you know, he'll listen, listen and

465
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: all of a sudden say, okay, hey, look you know

466
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: what this is on me whatever, He'll he'll take the blame.

467
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: He would shoulder on the blame or something for something

468
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: that happened with someone else, just to kind of keep

469
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: it moving because in this in this sport, in this profession,

470
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: if you linger for too long on anything, it's gonna

471
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: come back and have a negative effect. And he just

472
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: was not that guy. And I just think, you know,

473
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: the young locker room to be able to have the

474
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: ability to teach, but to also have guys looking forward. Um,

475
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, look, he's not Ted Lasso positive and he

476
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: and have all the quirky colloquialisms, but he had that

477
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: type of effect or a guy he's like, you know

478
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: what he's saying, it's kind of it's kind of right,

479
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: and I kind of want to be part of that.

480
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: But he was a fun guy. You said, he's not

481
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: necessarily like Ted Lasso, but speak to the humor he

482
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: brought to the table and just his enthusiasm for life.

483
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: Because you had a good anecdote following in Atlanta Falcons

484
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: practice where him and Jim Mora used to take off

485
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: for the hills. Yeah. Look there's a big hill to

486
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: facility and they would run it every day and you know, look,

487
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 1: last time I saw a nap, you needed to hit it.

488
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: Hit a little bit harder. He put on a few

489
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: lbs over the past couple of years, but but look,

490
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: I mean he was he was a dry witted guy.

491
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't the dude who was always out there.

492
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: You know, it was it was all about timeless. You know,

493
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: a good good comic, a good comedian strikes hot when

494
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: he when he has a perfect time knowing went to

495
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: deliver something a certain way. And and that was Greg Um.

496
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: He just would not let a guy. I'm sure you

497
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: talked to any of the quarterbacks he dealt with him. Look,

498
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: he really helped out players like Matt job Shop back

499
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: in the day. You know, when he was in Houston,

500
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: he was one of the first guys that have consistent

501
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: forty three honey yard passing seasons with a lot of

502
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: things he did. And and Nap was his o. C um.

503
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: You know, he had Michael Vick when I was here,

504
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: and looking Vick was tough to handle back then. I mean,

505
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Vick would admit he wouldn't you know,

506
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: he would study the playbook very much. And Nap and

507
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: those guys knew it, but they would still work with

508
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: him in a way instead of saying, you know, hey,

509
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: look we're gonna pound on you for not doing your homework,

510
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: like okay, let's make sure we can improvise and do

511
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: the things that we need to do because we know

512
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: where somethings you're lacking here there. But he always kept

513
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: it in a way where it never got bogged down mentally,

514
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: stress wise, things like that. And you know over now

515
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: we're playing seventeen games. You talked about the Jets having

516
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: a young team or rookie quarterback. That's gonna be important.

517
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: That's where michaela Floor and all these guys are really

518
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: gonna have to step in and just really really be

519
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: positive and encouraging to Zack Wilson, you know, because there

520
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: will be mistakes. May just listen to you talk Steve

521
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: makes me think about Nap taking this position because that

522
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: speaks to everything who he is, right because Michael fleur

523
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: It hasn't been in a league that long. He's in

524
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: his early thirties. But Napper said, Hey, I'm fifty seven,

525
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: fifty eight, I've worked with a lot of Pro Bowl quarterbacks.

526
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: I've been a coordinator in this league, and I'd be

527
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: more than happy to be the passing game uh specialist here.

528
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and look, you know, and people like, what's

529
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: the passing game specialists? I mean this is the guy

530
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: who breaks down all the situational stuff, does the special projects. Okay,

531
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: this is what it's defensive personnel. This is what they

532
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: like to do. This what the coordinator does. They saw

533
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: this quarterback fights on stuff. Then he works with the

534
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: coordinator to come up with schemes in the passing game,

535
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: including protections. Um that that really works. I mean again,

536
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: that experience and to be able to have that voice.

537
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: Michael Forest never called plays right, So to be able

538
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: to have that voice to get into quarterbacks yere to

539
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: help guide them through situations you can. Timing is everything.

540
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: When you've got that thirty five seconds on that clock

541
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: to get that play in before and then at fifteen

542
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: seconds that that that monitor in the helmet goes off.

543
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: You know, that is a case that is a gift.

544
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: That is not an easy thing to do. And Nap

545
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: was a guy who could really help the floor get it,

546
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: helps Zach Wilson get it. Um everything that goes on

547
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: without meddling. Again, he is not a guy who's not

548
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: going to step in when he's not asked unless it's

549
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: something that there's a crisis management type of situation. So again,

550
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: there's there's so many things that he brought to the

551
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: table and would have brought to the table for the Jets.

552
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: It's just absolutely crushing. Um, you know what happened to

553
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: him that he's no longer with us. And and trust me,

554
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: there's so many people on the league. We're gonna be

555
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: out of service, uh this upcoming weekend and and really

556
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: gonna feel Greg Knapp's presence um every day and especially

557
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: every Sunday and Monday night this season. Steve, one last

558
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: question from me. What do you think it says about

559
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: Greg that he was able to make such a large

560
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: impact just based on the reaction from social media, just

561
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: from Jets players, and he was hired what in January

562
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: and now it's the wies. I mean, he he was easy, man,

563
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: he was just you know, there's some coaches, you know,

564
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: they come in their heads on fire all the time

565
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: and they've got him what presence is me being big,

566
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, and and this type of stuff, and that's

567
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, you know, I'm here, I'm here

568
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: if you need me. All right, guys, let's get in

569
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: the room. Let's go over this stuff. And you know,

570
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 1: he's not someone who would put that add and added

571
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: burden on pressure these guys have so much to do

572
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: with this is learned their playbooks and a million other

573
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: obligations they have to do. And that was just the

574
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: kind of guy. You know, we all had that buddy,

575
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: you know in high school or college who just comes in.

576
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: You're like, thank god he's here, because I'm tired listening

577
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: to this guy. I really don't want to be in

578
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: this environment right now. I can sneak out of the

579
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: room with this dude. We can go get a soda,

580
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: beer or whatever. Um and and just unwined for a

581
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: little bit. And and and Nap was that Guy's why,

582
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: that's why the you know the example I gave um

583
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: in the column I wrote, you know him and Jim

584
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: more like Naper, let's hit it. I mean, those two

585
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: our practices were a grind, let's go round this hill

586
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: just to kind of get the rest of everything out

587
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: of us before we have to go back in these meetings,

588
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: Nap was the guy who Mora sought out. I mean,

589
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: they were best friends, but just to say, okay, let's

590
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: let's go decompress. And and I think that's something Nap

591
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: really brought to the players. Um in such a short

592
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: time with the Jets. Well, we are all praying for

593
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: his wife, his three daughters, his brother, his extended NFL family.

594
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: With all that being said, I hate even bring it

595
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: back to football, but what now I was on the

596
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: horizon for Robert sala who has already shown himself to

597
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: be a tremendous leader throughout his coaching tnure in the

598
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: National Football League. We talked about Mike la Fleur before,

599
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: and they forementioned Zack Wilson because Wilson in his short

600
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: time was very connected to Greg Naw. Yeah, I mean,

601
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: look that that's the interesting thing. That's a conversation that's

602
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: gonna need to be had with these young players because

603
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: think about you know, when you were twenty twenty four,

604
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: we didn't know too many people maybe other than grandparents,

605
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: thought that who died? Right, this is someone this is

606
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: like their first real life workplace, you know, hurdle to

607
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: overcome and and and it's I mean I remember my

608
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: first job in Richmond, Virginia, dealing with guys getting divorces

609
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: and people adopting kids like yo. This is completely different

610
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: from the structure I've grown up around. And so this

611
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: is where Robert Salah, who really has a lot of

612
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: naps type of personality traits quiet easy, but handles business.

613
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: That's where he's gonna have to really get a grip

614
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: on things, and and Lafleur is gonna have to stuff

615
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: been and they're just gonna have to really grind football wise,

616
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: but also have that ear in case, you know, someone

617
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: wants to talk about Greg or talk about a situation

618
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: where they lose a loved one, you know, something like this.

619
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: When you talk to players from forty Niners who dealt

620
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: with Sala, I mean that was a huge, huge thing

621
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: about him. I mean he knew everything about every guy

622
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: because he would listen and he would talk to them

623
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: about it. And that's where he just really has to

624
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: kind of step in at the beginning of training camp

625
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: and in address thisss with the team and say, look,

626
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: if you guys are gonna talk about I'm here, Mike's here.

627
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: You know, our player development people are are over here.

628
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: Just just anything um that you need. But you know,

629
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: we're also here to win football games, and so you

630
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: know they've they've got to keep you know, the eye

631
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: on the prize. But at the same time, again have

632
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: that sympathetic shoulder because he's your young men who are

633
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna need it for a lot of things going on

634
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: in their lives. Awesome, Steve, thank you so much for

635
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: the time on the Official Jets podcast. Were really appreciate it.

636
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Speaker 1: Thank you guys, point as an Unsen and Bet