1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: This is the business of sports where in the situation 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: that we haven't dealt with in modern times, pandemic here 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: has really accelerated the investments that we've been advocating for 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: for years. From a macro standpoint, I think our sport 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: industry is really forced to look at the business a 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: little bit differently. In depth conversations with the leaders in 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: the sports industry. Who wants to be the sacrificial lambs 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: that shows up at the first big major sporting event 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: part of something much bigger than the sport right now 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: and the health and saptry of our stakeholders that works 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: much important every moment. I think we're all from the 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: business respective thinking about the impact that the virus is 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: having across the country. Inst Bloomberg Business of Sports from 14 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Hello, I'm Jason Kelly, and I'm Michaelynch and 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: I'm Michael Barr. Over the next hour, we will export 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: the big money issues in the world of sports and 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: talk to some of the biggest players in the industry. 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: And we're so excited to catch up with Harold Renalty 19 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: is down in Arlington, Texas. He is covering the World 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: Series and you can catch him on MLBL. I've before 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: and after each game. They're happening every night. So exciting 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: to actually have baseball. And let's talk about what's happening 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: in the world sports, starting with baseball. Before we get 24 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: to Harold, I gotta tell you this World Series. Obviously 25 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: I wish my Braves were in it, but one of 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: the reasons they're not is a guy you are all 27 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: too familiar with, Michael Lynch. Uh, Mookie, What what a 28 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: storyline he has been How about Game number one? That's 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, the home runs, stealing a base, stealing two basses, 30 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 1: scoring a couple of runs, and just made something happen 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: all by himself on on one particular time he was 32 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: after Is that bat? The worst trade the Red Sox 33 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: have made since Babe Ruth was sold to the Yankees 34 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: back in and people here are still not getting over 35 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: it that Bets is in a Dodgers uniform, traded along 36 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: with David Price back in the early part of this winter. 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: Not not happy, not happy at all. What have you thought, 38 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: bar of the World Series so far? If you've been watching, 39 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: I did, But I was surprised about something, and that 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: is Game one of the World Series. It was down 41 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: in the ratings. Yeah, I think only almost nine point 42 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: two million people watched. That's an eleven share I believe 43 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: for Fox. Uh, and that's down. And then the one 44 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: that was lowest rated before that was another one with 45 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: the Rasory in the World Series and they were playing 46 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: the Phillies. Uh. I'm surprised that it is down because 47 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: it's been exciting baseball so far. Yeah, I have to say. 48 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: I mean, and again I'm a little bit of a homer, 49 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: as you guys know, for the Braves, the NLCS got 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: really good ratings. I do think it in part depends 51 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: on who's playing. I mean truly, and um, you know, 52 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if I think it the World Series 53 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: might have been doomed a little bit with from a 54 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: ratings perspectives with a very good don't get me wrong, 55 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: Raised team, But it is the Raise Lynchi, you know, 56 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it is. Sorry, like it's just not there's 57 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: there's not a compelling series of players. It's not a 58 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: storied franchise. All apologies to the Raised fans who are listening, 59 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: but I don't think people are making that appointment TV No. 60 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: And I think I might have mentioned this the other 61 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: day on the show there's a scene from Butch Cassidy 62 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: and The Sundance Kid where Newman are being just chase 63 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: the days and days and they keep looking over the 64 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: rocks and going who are these guys? And who are 65 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: these guys? And that's but you know, But if you 66 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: watch them play, and I've watched them but maybe the 67 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: last five games, they're very likable and they're a team 68 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: you want to root for. But if you're just sampling 69 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: and going in, you say, I've never heard of this guy. Yeah, 70 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. I know who all these guys are, right, 71 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: and I'm tuning out. I'm gonna click the channel. But 72 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: if you follow them, you embrace them well. And it 73 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: may only get trickier as the World Series finishes out 74 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: because there's more and more competition for those sports eyeballs, 75 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: including Michael Barr back to your part of the country, 76 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: the Big ten football coming back as of this weekend. Uh, 77 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: it's a big deal. It's a big deal. We didn't 78 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: think it was gonna happen. President Trump takes credit for 79 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: getting Big ten football back on the field. We'll set 80 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: that aside for a second, but it is notable that 81 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: we're going to see the Big ten back and play Welcome. 82 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: It's Michigan against the File State. I am excited to 83 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: see that. I am not going to lie. I didn't 84 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: think there was any way in the world this was 85 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: going to happen, especially in the Big Ten. But here 86 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: we are. Obviously, there's gonna be some issues with the 87 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: crowd because there's gonna be uh caps on that uh 88 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: if there's gonna be a crowd at all, which means 89 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for vendors and all of the 90 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: ancillary restaurants and bars that are around stadiums like that. 91 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: But at least we do have Big Ten football. Yeah, 92 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: I wonder about the home field advantage as well, my coldbar. 93 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, come into the big House and 94 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 1: it's intimidating, and you come into the shodown in Columbus 95 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: and it's intimidating. And now if they're going to have 96 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 1: like maybe a ten thousand people in some cardboard cutlets, 97 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: does that take away some of the whole field advantage 98 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: between some of the teams that might have a chance 99 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: now have a chance to maybe knock off Michigan or 100 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: Ohio State. I think that's true. I mean, we're gonna 101 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: hear a little bit later on the show from Harold Reynolds, 102 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: who's going to be you know, essentially reporting from has 103 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: been reporting from Arlington, Texas, where they're about that many 104 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, ten eleven thousand fans and they make a 105 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: little bit of noise, but there's nothing like it. I 106 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: mean literally this time last year, my family and I 107 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: went out. I had never been to a game at 108 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: Notre Dame and man a stadium like that. When it 109 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: gets rocking there, there is something special that's going on 110 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: and it does affect the play on the field. I 111 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: don't care what anybody says, So we'll see. I mean. 112 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: One of the cautionary tales, of course for college football 113 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: has been University of Alabama. They were able to get 114 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: coach Nick Shamon back on the sideline, which was good 115 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: news for Crimson Tide fans. They dispatched with Georgia more 116 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: easily than I think people thought, more easily than it 117 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: looked like they were going to do in the first half. 118 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: But one of the protegees, they know him only as 119 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: to h It's a big deal to me because FITZI 120 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: went to Harvard and he's a Harvard Fitzpatrick a Harvard 121 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: quarterback he led they're only a one game out of 122 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: a playoff spot. In the last two games, Fitzpatrick put 123 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: sixty seven points on the board for the Miami Dolphins, 124 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: and they're not struggling at all. They're actually playing great football. 125 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: So personally, I'm bummed out and I don't like the decision. 126 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: But I know that everyone else, probably in around the 127 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: National Football League and people that have fantasy teams, Michael 128 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: Barr probably think this is a great move. No, you 129 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: know why because I had fitz magic and was kicking 130 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: but and he is rolling and all of a sudden, 131 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: it's like and to a is going to start. So 132 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: that's it. My value in in it's magic. It's over now. 133 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: Having said that, I get it. The Dolphins they got 134 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: a brand new toy. They got to see what he's 135 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: going to do when he wasn't bad in his first start, 136 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: And I get the move. But yeah, you're right, man, 137 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: it's a sports player. I'm like, oh no, man, not this. 138 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: And it is a reminder that you know, these are 139 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: human beings. I mean Fitzpatrick. I think the quote is 140 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: he's heartbroken, you know, over losing the starting job, and um, 141 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: you know these are human beings at the end of 142 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: the day, and it is it's tough to see, especially 143 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: someone who is performing well in his job, as you 144 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: guys say, but as they also say, it ain't show friends, 145 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: show business. So we'll see whether this is the right 146 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: move for the Dolphins. They need something. By the way, 147 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: we got to bring it up right quick. H O 148 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: b J hut money for he gave four. He's charged 149 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: with giving two thousand dollars in cash to four L 150 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: s U players on the field after the National Championship 151 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: Game last January. That's, you know, a pretty hard thing 152 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: to do to walk around and what is what is 153 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: the player put the money? Is he stuffing his pants 154 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: as he put in his helmet? I mean, they don't 155 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: have pockets, right, so how does he do it? Nobody's 156 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was caught on camera. I 157 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: mean he was doing it in front of everyone. This 158 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: was not in a lissit or literally or favatively under 159 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: the table transaction. I mean it just shows you some 160 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: of the bad decision making that that happens around Uh 161 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: college football, and listen, I love college football, but it's 162 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of a rotten system. I think it's fair 163 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: to say and uh and certainly people take advantage. So 164 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: I think we haven't seen the last of that story, 165 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: that's for sure. I can honestly say I never received 166 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: an envelope after any game that I played, trust me, 167 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: even not even after that game winning kick that we played. 168 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 1: A snippet from nobody, nothing, nothing, nothing I got. I 169 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: got a I got a box box lunch and a 170 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: seat on the bus home. That was a slap on 171 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: the butt on your way to the locker round. Good job, Lynch, 172 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: good job. Next on the show, we speak with Harold Reynolds, 173 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: analysts for the MLB Network. That's straight ahead on Bloomberg 174 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: Business of Sports. You can follow me on Twitter at 175 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: Big Bar Sports and now Mike Lynch. 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I'm Jason Kelly along with Mike 184 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: Lynch and Michael Barr today a very timely conversation because 185 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: we've got the World Series going on right now, which 186 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: is pretty darn exciting and maybe a little bit unexpected. 187 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: So who better to catch up with then MLB Networks 188 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: own Harold Reynolds. Harold joins us from Texas, right there 189 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: where it's all happening. How the heck are you? What's 190 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: it like down there? Well, first of all, thanks to 191 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: having me, guys, Um, yeah, it's a little bit different, 192 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: but actually it's it's actually pretty cool. I love the 193 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: Destination World Series. Yeah, I just think it's I don't know. 194 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: I know it's a COVID year and we've had to 195 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: do a lot of things to even get to this point, 196 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: but I do think it's something that baseball might have 197 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: to consider moving forward. I mean, to know where you're at, Like, 198 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: we have two games sevens, right, and usually what happens 199 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: you have two games sevens and then all of a 200 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: sudden it's like, okay, I guess we're flying to l 201 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: A tomorrow. You know, start the World Series in two days, 202 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: and you can't plan and market the game, and this really, 203 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: I think a destination World Series allows you to know 204 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: a year in advance, you could have had, you know, 205 00:10:55,720 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: a college Fall Classic going on, women's softball, youth baseball. 206 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: You can do a lot of things to promote the sport. 207 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: So I think it's something they got to consider. Something 208 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: else this season has brought to the forefront. Maybe it 209 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: is time to shorten the regular season. Yes, sixty two games. No, 210 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: we can't do that in the regular season, but I 211 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: mean it puts more importance on a game. If you 212 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: do shorten the season and and people will watch, well, 213 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: you might be onto something. I think the sixty games 214 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: schedule obviously you agree with this. It's a little bit short, 215 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: but I can see, uh the urgency and almost felt 216 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: like college football every weekend meant something. But if you 217 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: can starting it down to hunting games, knockout twenty two 218 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: and you lose a lot of revenue. But I think 219 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: the reason it might be on the table it could 220 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: be discussed is by adding you know, the extra teams 221 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: in the wild card round. Uh, really picks up revenue, 222 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: but also, uh, it brings all the markets the place. 223 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: You know, I played on a couple of teams in Seattle, 224 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: when you know, we lost a hundred games and by 225 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: by mid June we were done. Season was over. And 226 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: so I think it teachs your fan base engage with 227 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: the new opportunity to possibly get in. And I know 228 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people were proponents with, oh, well, one 229 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: of our teams under five hundred and they get in 230 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Every sport does it, so what and the 231 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: show us that you know, they got in and they 232 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: made a run that almost got them to the World Series, 233 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't have had a problem with it at all. Carol, 234 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: this is Mike Lynch up in Boston. Obviously we have 235 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: a little connection to the Dodgers with Dave Roberts, Joe 236 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: Kelly and Bookie Bets. But I don't want to ask 237 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: you about the two. You've got two polar opposite franchises here. 238 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: You've got the Dodgers, so who have an unlimited payroll 239 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: pretty much, and then you've got the first of all. Mike. 240 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but the Dodgers. How you said, 241 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: it's so cool, man, I can tell you in Boston 242 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. I love the accent. I'm like, oh yeah, 243 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: he's from Boston, Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you made Lynchi up, 244 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: no one would believe you. Harold. I'm like, am I 245 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: listening to President Kennedy. It's a pretty good one. So well, 246 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: I'll thank you when I stop my high wrap a 247 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: little bit later. We've got the Dodgers, who you know, 248 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: have unlimited funds, and we've got the Tampa Bay Rays. 249 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: It's a good for baseball to have a team like 250 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay in the World Series. Well, it's always good 251 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: when they when they were one of the best teams, 252 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, And there's different ways to get here. Obviously, 253 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: you look at the payroll and you go you want 254 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: guys to continue to have big pay and everything else. 255 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: But then you look at the other side of it, 256 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: and it gives hope to a lot of clubs that 257 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: can get creative. Not everybody has or is going to 258 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: have the pay roll of the Red Sox or the 259 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: Yankees or the Dodgers. Just that's not gonna happen. And 260 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: that's real. In any sport, you know you're gonna have 261 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: the big market teams are gonna have more money. It's 262 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: just that's the way it is, the revenue they drive. 263 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: But it does give hope to clubs that, uh may 264 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: not have the same revenue streams that can still get 265 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: to a World Series. Now, I'm not for clubs that 266 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: have the revenue streams and opportunities and still you know, 267 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: hold back possibility of putting more money into the clubs, 268 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: But there are a lot of markets that do not 269 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: have the funding. And speaking of funding, I really think 270 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: right now, having come through this COVID season, UM, we 271 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: got a real wake up call in our sport. I 272 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: think that the revenue is gonna be tough. There's a 273 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: lot of money lost this year. UM, fans not coming 274 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: to games. Uh, it's a big hit. So I think 275 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna be in this cycle for a couple of 276 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: years trying to figure it out. So I think for 277 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: the sport over all, UH, Tampa being in the World 278 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: Series gives us all a little hope to keep the 279 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: sport alive because it's been a major financial hit with 280 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: the whole COVID nineteen scenario we're in, So play that 281 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: out for us, Harold, I mean, what do you think 282 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: of the short term implications of that. Do you think 283 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: we'll see some you know, owners like dump out of 284 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: some of these teams. Do you think there are payroll 285 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: implications or plans that are put on hold as we 286 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: go forward because and this is probably a longer conversation 287 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: that we need to have later in the show. But 288 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, you got the c B A, you know 289 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: coming up next year. I mean, twenty one is going 290 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: to be a majorly important year for baseball. Well, I 291 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be interesting to see, um, how the 292 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: players Union reacts to it all, and if we're able 293 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: to get on the same page. And this really is 294 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: all of the Senate together to get through it. Um. 295 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: There was no minor large season this year, no college 296 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: baseball just on the amateur side. Real quick, you know, 297 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna have a draft coming up this season. 298 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: We had five rounds in the draft this last year, 299 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: and that means a thousand kids didn't get drafted, you know, 300 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: So that's the backload. And the n C two A 301 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: allowed all seniors to go back to college. I was 302 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: talking to a couple of friends of mine that are 303 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: college coaches, and you know, the cycle goes. You know, 304 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: you're not you're gonna have four or five seniors leave 305 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: your college program and you'll go recruit four or five freshmen. 306 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: You tell those families, yes, he's gonna have an opportunity 307 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: to play. All of a sudden, this hits. Now you 308 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: got the five seniors saying, hey, coach, I can come 309 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: back another year. No, no, but that's coming back, you know. 310 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: And here comes the incoming freshman. And that's just on 311 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: the college level of a backload. I've got many friends 312 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: who have kids, uh young men and women's softball and 313 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: baseball that are looking to go to college that we're 314 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: high school seniors. They don't even know what's gonna happen 315 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: to them. So that's just the amateur backlog of just 316 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: any kid going to college, not even a draftee. And 317 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: now you go to the graphs and we got a 318 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: major backlog. And then you go to a minor league season. 319 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: I was talking with Ed Howard, who was the Cubs 320 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: number one picked this year UM in the draft. And 321 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: Ed is from Chicago and last year he was in 322 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: the PDP one of the top high school juniors in 323 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: the country the year before, and then last last this 324 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: last June, he was drafted by the Cubs, and so 325 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: I was speaking with him the other day. He finally 326 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: got to go to instructional league. That's going on right now. 327 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: And I said, ed, when was the last time you 328 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: played the game, And he goes last August, not this 329 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: past the year before. That's a prospect. So you think 330 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: about the impact. That's how just on our minor league. 331 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: So how are we gonna move guys forward? Uh? I 332 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: mean teams that make taking a major hit and players 333 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: have so all that trickles down financially, Um, we'll see. 334 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's gonna be a big recovery 335 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: I think in the sport and amateur wise, college, high school, 336 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: and then into our minor leagues and definitely majorly if 337 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: you look at this shortened COVID season. You know, when 338 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: you look at the Marlins, they lose eight teen players 339 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: to COVID nineteen. Right, So Derek Jeter has to bring 340 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: up guys from the taxi squad that he was just 341 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: hoping they'd get great working Now they're in the big league, 342 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: but they hadn't played in a full year. It's just 343 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: tough for development. So that's how I look at this 344 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: whole thing. And that's not even the financial picture. Looking 345 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: around thirty clubs, now they're gonna right, all right. Stay 346 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: tuned for more of our conversation with MLB Networks Harold 347 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: Reynolds straight Ahead on Bloomberg Business of Sports. I'm Jason Kelly. 348 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter at Jason Kelly News and I'm 349 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: Mike Lynch in Boston and you can find me at 350 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: Lynch w CVB. Hal's right, you do say Dodgers cool. 351 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm on Twitter at Big Art Sports. Download the show 352 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: to hear even more of this interview our extended version 353 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: catch that wherever you get your podcasts. Well, thanks so 354 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: much for joining us. We're here each and every week 355 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: for you at the same time talking to the biggest 356 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: names in sports. I'm Jason Kelly along with Mike Clinch 357 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: and Michael Barr. Let's continue our conversation with Harold Reynolds. So, Harold, 358 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: how has your sort of life routine calling the season, 359 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: analyzing the season. How's how's your routine change? What's it 360 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: been like for you? Uh? Chance, quite a bit. I 361 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: think the the biggest change, um is working from home? 362 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: Yeah you know, um right now, I'm actually at the 363 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: World Series in Texas, so I'm in a room by myself. 364 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: But normally if we were doing this interview, you probably 365 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: hear some kids don't walk in and go down. I'm 366 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: in class right now. You know, I think that's that's 367 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: changed your routine quite a bit. Um. But we finally 368 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: got back into studio and it allowed you to analyze 369 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: and do tapes and really be hands on. But um, 370 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: it is different from a personal routine from a baseball routine. 371 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: You know, players are on the field as much. You 372 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: don't have the interaction you you don't get to go 373 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: to the ballpark and sit down by the cage and 374 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: ask somebody what they're working on. Even in the World Series, 375 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: guys are making adjustments. You don't have that one on 376 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: one So that I think is a is a big change. 377 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: So I've spoken with guys on the phone, I've called 378 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: them even face time, but it's not the same as 379 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: being able to be in person. So those are some 380 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: of the injustice that you have to make. What do 381 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: you think of some of the rules changes? And I 382 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: think the biggest one is when you have a double header, uh, 383 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: it goes seven innings instead of nine. And then there's 384 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: also the rule if it goes into extra innings, you 385 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: get you start with a runner on second, and this 386 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: and that. Some of the old schoolers are like, what 387 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: in the devil is us. But you know, other people 388 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: are like, that's a great idea. What do you think? Yeah, 389 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: you know, I was kind of in the vein of 390 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, a runner at second and the tenth, Come on, man, 391 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: that's not baseball. But I really actually grew to like it. Um. 392 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: I think with with baseball, when we have so much 393 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: swinging myths and guys aren't really trying to move, runners 394 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: are still basis and almost forced strategy in the game 395 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: that hadn't been there for for years. So I like that. 396 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: You know, when you're sitting there going on, they're gonna 397 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: move this guy over into tenth inning. You know. It's 398 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: a lot like in football where if the other team 399 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: doesn't score, all I need is a field goal, just 400 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: put the ball in the right field position, and the 401 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: same thing in the bottom of the tenth they didn't 402 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: score on the top of the tenth, we'll move the 403 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: run of the third and let's see what happens here. 404 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: Let's get a run. So I like that part. I 405 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: do like the d H in both leagues. Although I 406 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: love the strategy of the National League with the picture hitting, 407 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: I think it forces a lot of different things. But um, 408 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: the d H of both leagues has been good. And 409 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: and then the other uh rule change I think that 410 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: has really been was the double header. You talked about. 411 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: Everybody played seven any double headers when you're in high 412 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: school or minor league ball or whatever. So I thought 413 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: that was adaptable. But I don't think long term that 414 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: one will stick. I think the others might. And one 415 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: rule that I've been pushing I hope really does start 416 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: to come into play is the shift rule. You know, 417 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: I never thought I would say, you know, you have 418 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: to implement a shift rule that they can't overload a 419 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: certain side because to me, in my generation, we just 420 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: shot that ball the other way all day long and 421 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: taking our base hit. Um, this is a different game. 422 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: They want to hit the ball over the shift, and 423 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: the offense has gone down because of it, and I 424 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: think we've lost a lot of athleticism. You don't have 425 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: that second baseman arranging and going up the middle and 426 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: making that throwback the first anymore. He's standing in the 427 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: deep right field and he's a third baseman. So I 428 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: think we gotta institute a shift rule to kind of 429 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: put things acting the balance and get a little more creative. 430 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: But that's that's that's my take. On some of the rules. 431 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: So har all following up on the designated hitter to 432 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: the Dodges and the rest of the National League like 433 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: it enough to maybe just of affect change or to 434 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: try to, uh you have a voice to maybe just 435 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: ad meant that this be uniform in both leagues. Well, 436 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if they like it as much, but 437 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: I do think that it's gonna be hard after a year, 438 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: and I don't know what's gonna happen in one. We'll 439 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: still have I'm sure some some rules because we may 440 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: not play the one as we'll see if there's a 441 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: vaccine or we're able to get through this this COVID. 442 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: But if we're back in the same thing as as 443 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 1: as we've done in, it's gonna be hard to all 444 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden after two years go okay, uh Walker 445 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: dealer and I'll pick up a bat you haven't hit, 446 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, Cutton Kershaw. I think that's gonna be forced 447 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: just because of the times that we're in. It'll be 448 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: hard to go back and hard press to see the 449 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: pictures hitting again. What is the net effect of the 450 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: limited number of fans both on the game, but but 451 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: also we know this is a huge source of revenue. 452 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: You mentioned it earlier for baseball, and and so many 453 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: people you know, just speaking very plainly, like love going 454 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: to games. I mean, it's it's part of it's it's 455 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: part of what made baseball so great. How does it 456 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: affect the game in your estimation? You know now having 457 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 1: been in the stadium where they're playing with a limited 458 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: number of fans, Well, it's undeniable. Um, the impact of fans. 459 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: You might think, you know, the fans don't really affect 460 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: the game that much. They really do. Uh. The energy 461 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: being able to play off fans, Uh, the interaction and 462 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: just being in the building here, even in Texas with 463 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: eleven thousand people. Uh, they make a lot of noise. 464 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: It just brings an energy and excitement to the game. 465 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, you're playing for 466 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: the fans. And as a baseball guy who loves to 467 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: even in the business, I still love to go to 468 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: the games. I to take my kids to game. So 469 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: I have to go to a baseball game watching it 470 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: on TV, even though they try to pipe in proud noise, 471 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: it's just not the same. And if I'm reliant on 472 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: a director to tell me what I'm looking at I 473 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: want to go to the game and be able to 474 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: if I want to look at the right fielder and 475 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: see if he's to act like he's taking practice swings 476 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: in between every pitch, and so my kids see he's 477 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: thinking about at bat right there. You don't see that 478 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: sitting in your living room on TV because they're showing 479 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: the catcher and the picture, you know. So, uh, there's 480 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: something to be said about it. But at the end 481 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: of the day, if we're going to continue to attract 482 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: fans to the sport and keep it alive and vibrant 483 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: and rich, you have to have fans in the stands. 484 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: And that has been I'm not even talking from my 485 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: financial hit, just from a game effect and a visual 486 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: effect and moving the game forward from kids the kids, 487 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: generation to generation, you have to have fans back. I 488 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: agree with you. I mean, I've I've got a couple 489 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: of teenagers who are not huge baseball fans. They played lacrosse. 490 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: But listen, if I say, hey, we're going down to 491 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: the Yankees game or wherever, I mean, they're totally in 492 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: for that. We went to Dodgers Stadium for the first 493 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: time a couple of summers ago, and they're they're all 494 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: in and I think you're right. Having that sort of 495 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: visceral connection is really important. Stay tuned for more of 496 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: our conversation with Harold Reynolds straight ahead on Bloomberg Business 497 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: of Sports. I'm Jason Kelly. Find me on Twitter at 498 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: Jason Kelly News. And I'm Mike Lynch. My baby route 499 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: team was the Dodgers when I was a teenager, and 500 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: you can find me at Lynch w CDB. Hey, I'm 501 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: a Tigers fan. Uh. Michael Barr on Twitter at Big 502 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: Bar Sports and download the show to hear even more 503 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: of this interview our extended version. Catch that wherever you 504 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Thanks so much for joining us. We're 505 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: here each and every week for you at the same 506 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: time talking to the biggest names in sports. I'm Jason 507 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: Kelly along with Mike Lynch and Michael Barr. Let's get 508 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: right back to our conversation with Harold Reynolds. You know, Harold, 509 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: you touched on this a bit earlier. The relationship between 510 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: the players, the league, the owners. I guess among those three, Uh, 511 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: it was fraught to say the least as we got 512 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: into what ultimately became a successful season. What's the lasting 513 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: effect in your estimation from a labor management perspective, and 514 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: what happens over the next few months as we get 515 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,239 Speaker 1: into one and and we have to figure out what 516 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: happens next in this game. Well, I think we're at 517 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: a crossroads in baseball. You know, I spent twelve years 518 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: in the major leagues, and four of those years were strikes, lockout, fight, 519 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: let's shut the game down a couple of times. And 520 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: I understood then what it was for as a player. 521 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: You know, we're fighting for rights and different things, and 522 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: these players are living a lot of things we fought 523 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: through in the eighties and nineties. But I think there's 524 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: got to be a change with the relationship with the 525 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: ownership now that I've been kind of on the other 526 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: side in a sense doing television. You have a different 527 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: perspective as you do when you get older and everything. Anyway, 528 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: and I just see the other leagues. There seems to 529 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: be a cohesive relationship with NBA, with NFL. You know, 530 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: when when the Lakers won the championship, the one thing 531 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: that stood out to me was Lebron James is holding 532 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: up the trophy and they're in their bubble and they 533 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: were there for four months and they're talking about it 534 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: and Lebron goes, we gotta thank Adam, Adam, I gotta 535 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: thank you, you know, when they're talking about the commissioner 536 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: of basketball, because they really have a partnership. We've got 537 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: to get our players union and Major League Baseball ownership 538 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: in a partnership, and that's gonna happen. Obviously, you fight 539 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: over revenue, but I think we got to get to 540 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: a partnership, especially coming through the hurt of the pandemic 541 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: that we've been in. The is not like the labor 542 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: dispute and the commissioner shuts down baseball and we recover 543 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: with Kyle Ripkens. This is totally different. It's affected not 544 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: only baseball players, but fans, families, the concession stand worker, 545 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: the parking lot tenant, everybody. So I think there's a 546 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: a global effect with what we're going through. And the 547 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: only way we're gonna really heal this game and get 548 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: it going forward is there have to be a change 549 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: in the labor relationship that understands this is bigger than 550 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: just owner players fighting over finances. I think about the 551 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: kids today in baseball. Back in my day, you know, 552 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: it was easy. It's like, hey, we let's go get 553 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: up a game and then I pretend I'm Jim Rice. Yes, Lynchy, 554 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: I said, I'd pretend that I was Jim Rice and 555 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: and just cracking back and go and and have a 556 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: great old time. And now it seems like it that's waning, 557 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: and not just in baseball, but that's a lot of 558 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: sports football wherever. What is it gonna take to rejuvenate 559 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: to get kids back into sports. Well, the challenge in 560 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: my household, and I've got some really good athletes, um 561 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: video games. I got a nine year old who knows 562 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: like everybody in the NFL because he plays matten all 563 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: the time. And if I say, come on, man, let's 564 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: go down the park for an hour and let's just 565 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: go throw the football around, Uh, I'm good. That doesn't work, 566 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: you know. And this is a kid who's in soccer, basketball, baseball, football, 567 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: He plays every sport and when he's there with his 568 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: teammates and playing, he loves it. But to get him 569 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: to go in the backyard, it's like pulling teeth. So 570 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how we get that. We've got to 571 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: get kids back to allowing them to be creative. And 572 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: I will say this, the one thing that frustrates me 573 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: with the coaching today is everybody thinks they're they're Belicheck 574 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: and they're gonna win a Super Bowl. You're not. They're nine, 575 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: they're ten, they're twelve or fourteen. Let the kids play. 576 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: When we were growing up, guys, we made our own rules, 577 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 1: who picked our own teammates, and we went and created games. 578 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: And now it seems like parents think that are coaches 579 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: think they have to call every pitch or they're gonna 580 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: call every play. Uh run this or run that. And 581 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: we got to do that ourselves, and we got to 582 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: get that back to where the game is the kids 583 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: and it's not parents or coaches. Let them be creative, 584 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: let them decide. And I think one of the reasons 585 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: soccer has taken off so much in this country. If 586 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: you don't have time to say, use a lot of foot, 587 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: you're right foot, do this. You know, we're in baseball, 588 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: We're like, okay, get their elbow up, Johnny, don't fling here. 589 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: He's you know, he's take a pitch. Let him play 590 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: stop stop stop, and let kids control the game. It 591 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: is their game at their time, and that's how we're 592 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: gonna get kids back in love with sports. You know, 593 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: Trevor Bauer said the same thing, I think when we 594 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: were talking to him, but he just said, you know, 595 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: let's let the kids play and and stop if it's 596 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: if it's not organized, they don't participate in it, and 597 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: which is really really too bad. Let me let me 598 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: just change that the just the coursier for one second. 599 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: Are you living in a bubble in Arlington, Texas right now? 600 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: That's a semi bubble. We're not in like the players 601 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: can't do anything in their bubble. Our hotels right next 602 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: to the field. I can actually look at it right now, 603 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: and it takes three minutes to walk over there. So 604 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: we get tested every other day, do the nose swab. 605 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: We also do the saliva test, so it's strict. But 606 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean what they call Tier three. I can't go 607 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,479 Speaker 1: near the players. I won't be down on the field 608 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: or anything like that. But in the media area we're 609 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: all tested, and that's our little mini bubble. As you 610 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: go down Tier too or Tier three, you see the 611 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: reporters on the field, Rosenthal or Ducci, JP Morossi, all 612 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: those people. They have the corn teams for fourteen days 613 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: be tested every day before they could go down and 614 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: be amongst the players. So it's real strict to make 615 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: sure that we keep this thing clean and we can 616 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: get through it. Are you surprised that we made it 617 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: to the World Series, especially after that rough first weekend here? Ond? 618 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: I really am. They did a fantastic job, the players, 619 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, Dan Halem and his group, with the 620 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: testing and everything that they did and the adjustice they 621 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: made along the way, they did a tremendous job. And 622 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, from workers to everybody who's involved, when 623 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: you start looking at the enormity of people that that 624 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: have to comply, because one simple person can past it, 625 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: and as you saw with the Marlins, it can spread 626 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: like wildfire. And so to be at this point, I'm 627 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: really I'm really surprised, but I'm really proud of the 628 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: effort that at the Commissioner's office and the commissioner and 629 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: everybody on down, particularly the players, to make it work. 630 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: It's really amazing. I was thinking about what you were 631 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,479 Speaker 1: talking about, how COVID has affected the revenue in the game, 632 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: especially for the minor leagues, and I just wonder will 633 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: the minor leagues ever recover from this this? It was 634 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: always fun to go to a minor league baseball game 635 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: and that just got blown away. Yeah, major league baseball 636 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: is going to survive, but I just wonder if the 637 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: minor league clubs, what's going to happen to them. Well, 638 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna come back, but it's gonna take a couple 639 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: of years of recovery. I mean you look at you 640 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: know those cities, the revenue that cost to test everybody 641 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: and to make all this work. Uh, it's really tough. 642 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: I think we might see this year. You know, everybody 643 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: has the spring training complexes and you have players able 644 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: to train their A ball, double A, triple A on up, 645 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: we may see an abbreviated schedule. It's tough to have 646 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: a trip ballet team flying across the country and and 647 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: being able to make sure everybody's safe. So it will 648 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: come back. I think everybody understands the minor league baseball 649 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: is really the fabric of it all. We all love going. 650 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be very difficult to have these small 651 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: communities um be able to be on rescue and recovery 652 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: right away. It will happen. I'm just not sure when 653 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: that might be. It could be, but I think we're 654 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: gonna see, uh, an abbreviated schedule as well. We're excited 655 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: that we're able to watch some baseball, even from Afar, 656 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: and lucky for you, you're a little bit closer than 657 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: we are. Check out Harold realms every game before and 658 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: after on MLB tonight. Stay safe down there in Arlington, 659 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: and who knows we could get another seven game series here. 660 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: We had a two really nice ones. A sad one 661 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: for me as a Braves fan on the NLCS side, 662 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: but really glad that we've got a world series to watch, Harold, 663 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: And thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for me, 664 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: I will soak get in as the fan and the 665 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: stands for you guys. Okay, we appreciate a pretty cool experience, 666 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: being able to have the players yelling and screaming and stuff. 667 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. But I appreciate thanks for having me 668 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: so guys, Harold Reynolds. Love catching up with him. I mean, 669 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: someone who is right there watching it all unfold in 670 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: Arlington's sounds like it's pretty strict. And at the same time, listen, 671 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: we got baseball and I loved what he said at 672 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: the end. I think we're all surprised that we're sitting here, 673 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: uh in late October and actually seeing an October Classic 674 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: in some former fashion lynching. Yeah, and I like what 675 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: he said about the fans. He said, no matter what 676 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: he says, we play for the fans, and the fans 677 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: affect the game, they really do. They bring energy that 678 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: the players feed off, and they bring excitement. Now there's 679 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: only eleven thousand people allowed into the Globe Life Stadium 680 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: down in Arlington, Texas, but it's better than having cardboard 681 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: cutouts throughout the throughout the stadium. What do you think, 682 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 1: par what's your takeaway? I think that some of those 683 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: rule changes that happened this season are going to carry 684 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 1: on and it's going to be part of the game. 685 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: I especially think the double header seven inning rule is 686 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: gonna stick. I really like that. I'll be interested to 687 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: see what what Baseball ends up doing. They need they 688 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 1: need I use this, uh this word with some caution, 689 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: like they needed it. They need to juice up the 690 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: game a little bit in a legal way. Um. They 691 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: need to do something, uh to to enliven it. And 692 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, I worry a bit about the underlying economics 693 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: here because all of the fighting that happened before the 694 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 1: season actually got underway. It was really about money. I mean, 695 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: there was a certain element that was about health and safety, 696 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,720 Speaker 1: for sure, but you know, this is a league that, 697 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: as Harold said, Lynchy, the players, the owners and the 698 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: league that they are not on the same page. No. Well, 699 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: the first word out of the players Association's mouth on 700 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: any negotiation is no. No matter what they said, we're 701 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: gonna give everyone a limousine. Everyone is going to get 702 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: free ice cream after every game, they'd say no. And 703 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 1: then I said, Okay, where do we go from here? 704 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: But I'd like this idea that they need a better 705 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: labor relationship. I don't want to say it's pipe dreams, 706 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: but I think that this is a very unyielding, unmovable 707 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: association and always has been since Marvin Miller, you know, 708 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: just turned things around. I wonder, ultimately, and this is 709 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: a conversation for probably an entire show at some point, 710 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: what is it that Adam Silver was able to do? 711 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: And maybe there are some structural things and some historical things, 712 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: and obviously he picked up where David Stern left off. 713 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: But you know, I thought that Harold's comment was notable 714 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: that you know, you have one of the best players 715 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: in the game arguing the best player in the game, 716 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: winning the championship in the NBA and turning to the 717 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: commission being like, thanks man that that I'm not sure 718 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: they're gonna be a lot of tipping into the cap 719 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: to Rob Manfred at the end of this World Series. No, 720 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: it's one word. Trust us, I think is the word. 721 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: And I think they have it with Silver. They don't 722 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: have it with the other commissioners that they probably haven't 723 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: in hockey. Hockey has done pretty well, but football and 724 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: baseball hasn't happened yet. Montros, because that's feels better to 725 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 1: be number one than number five. I'll wear a number 726 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: because of Mike. We have a chance to go for 727 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: three in a row. Good numbers are a good time. 728 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: When I first started wearing the number, I would just 729 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: have the proud Bloomberg business of sports. The number of 730 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: the week. You know what it's time for, gentlemen. Oh boy, 731 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: here we go, Yes, buddy, time for the number of 732 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: the week. Okay, gang at home, huddle around because you're 733 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: going to play along too. Here's the question. Wayne Gretzky, 734 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:47,240 Speaker 1: you guys knew him. Uh, he is looking to sell 735 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 1: his southern California estate. Uh. Now we're going to do 736 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: the same. Give me the closest number of what he's 737 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: looking for the uh state that's on the market. What 738 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: was Lebron's like, thirty five million? Yeah, it was in 739 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,919 Speaker 1: the It had a three handle. So what's he looking 740 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: to sell it for? This is what he's looking the net. Okay, 741 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: he won him a ninety nine. He's not going to 742 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: get I'm gonna go with less than Lebron. I'll say twenty. 743 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: Nice round number. M I'm gonna have to go. I'm 744 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: gonna have to box you in here. Um, I'm gonna 745 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,959 Speaker 1: go a little bit above. I'm gonna go twenty. What's 746 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: halfway between twenty and I'm gonna go twenty two two? 747 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, twenty nine nine million? Coming to dislike 748 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,439 Speaker 1: Mike Lynch when it comes to the number of the week. 749 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: Oh man, Mike has already won seven cars in this game. 750 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: Oh my ands. Uh. Let me give you the story here. 751 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: A thousand Oaks, California, Wayne Gretzky and his wife Janet, 752 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: they are putting their uh A state on the market 753 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: for twenty two point nine million dollars. Good for him. 754 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: Pretty nice house. That's good. It's a six point five 755 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: acres uh and it's sitting above the Sherwood Country Club, 756 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: so so we can put our up. It's a good 757 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: time for real estate. You're really you're really into the 758 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: celebrity real estate. I like that. I like these numbers 759 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: of the week that are you know about fancy houses 760 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: that athletes live in. It's it's a nice it's a 761 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: nice bit bar, swimming Pool's movie star some nice homes 762 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: in the greater Los Angeles area, that's for sure. All right, 763 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: you've been listening to Bloomberg Business of Sports. We're here 764 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 1: each and every week at the same time, plus online 765 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast. Get those they dropped Monday, 766 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Thursday. I'm Jason Kelly. Find me on Twitter 767 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: at Jason Kelly News and on Mike Lynch. You can 768 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 1: find me at Lynch e w c v B and 769 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: at Michael Barr on Twitter at Big Bar Sport. You're 770 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg Business of Sports Bloomberg Radio around the world.