WEBVTT - P.C. w/ Kathy Griffin 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:04.359 Of the law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.160 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:09.200 vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:27.520 These are our stories, done done. 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:29.720 Yay, that's messed up. 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:33.720 An SVU podcast coming to you live JK I am Lee's. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.360 A Trigger and I'm Kara Klink and we're always in 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.400 a time machine of the little of a small amount, 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:44.960 you know our podcast. Guys, Unless you're tuning in to 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.080 today's episode, our two hundredth episode for the. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:49.800 First time, you know you might be. 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:52.239 This is a huge day for us, actually runner at 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:52.880 the episode. 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.720 Huge guests, I'm sure you can assume, yes, if you're 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.360 just tuning in. We talk about we recap an episode 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.560 of SVU, talk about the true crime it's based on, 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.600 and we talked to an amazing guest from the episode. 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:08.960 Today's no different. But up top, we chat, we rant, 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.240 we talk about what's going on in the world, in 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:12.160 each other's lives. 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.280 Well, I don't even think we talked about this yet, 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.040 but this is like a fucked up way to start. 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:17.399 But we are in SU podcast. 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.480 But you obviously heard about this woman that her husband 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:24.080 was drugging her. Oh, I'm letting the whole town raper. 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.600 And one of the rules is no condoms. People at 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.560 HIV seventy two people in the neighborhood, her neighbor. 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:34.240 Everyone just was this in France or another country? It 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:38.680 was in another country? Yeah, yeah, yeah, good yeah, And 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:40.800 she said, fuck a private trial. 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.880 You see my face. This needs to be like public. 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:46.559 And I hope they all go to jail. I hope 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:50.280 he gets the firing squad, and I hope that Why 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:51.400 isn't this a bigger story? 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:52.560 Men really need to. 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:57.720 Like sane if this isn't the most evidence you can 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.720 find of, Like, yes, all men, the whole community was 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:02.360 against you. 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:05.840 This man married you and drugging you and let it. 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:07.960 I just can't. I keep repeating it to try to 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:09.639 make it make sense. Yeah. 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:13.160 Sorry, No, a bear is not inviting its friends over 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:17.079 to take turns on its wife. We're picking the bear again, 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:18.399 We're picking the bear. 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:20.440 It's so crazy, it's. 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.400 So great, Like, yeah, I saw that story and that 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.160 was like fritzl level to me almost where I was like, 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.040 oh no, I need to be in a certain space 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:29.800 to be able to like fully dive into the story. 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.120 It's too grow it's too horrifying, like so bad. 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:38.760 Yeah, well I'll change the topic just to quickly. But 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.720 I did have I've been waiting for a long time. 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.079 I'm going to go back. I think it's going to 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.880 be my new obsession. But I try to diet coke slushy. 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:49.120 Ooh yeah, I think I saw that in your story. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.280 Actually a little DC slush It's perfect. 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.519 It's perfect because I feel like with slurpy is in 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:57.360 a lot of slush, it's like too overpoweringly sweet, you know, 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.080 uh huh. And this isn't because it's fucking die. I 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:04.519 had coke and it's not super blendy, so it's still 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:05.160 little chunk. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:07.160 It would like I. 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.280 Am taking the train and walking just to get this, 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:10.280 like I would do that. 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:11.720 I love that. 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.960 Wow, a destination diet coke slushie? Where is it? Like, 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:17.560 I'm sorry, is it like a chain place or just 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:19.399 some little place you found that hasn't. 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.200 No, I don't know if it's it is little, but 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:25.040 I think it's doing well. It's called Edith's, okay, But 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:28.720 I asked when they opened, which was like twenty twenty, 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.160 and they started popping off in like twenty twenty one. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.280 Is okay, because I lived in that neighborhood for a 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:35.800 long time and that was not around. 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.520 Got it all right? Yeah, get over there. So excited, Ashy, 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.760 that's exciting. That is exciting. What's going on in La 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:48.280 Boots on the ground. What's happening here? Well, my birthday 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:49.000 was last week. 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:50.200 Oh my god. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.520 For the b day messages, I wasn't really gonna do 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.720 a big thing or anything because we had just gone 0:03:57.720 --> 0:03:59.440 to Palm Springs for our friends forty and that was 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.600 kind of like the big thing for the month of 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:02.240 September for me. 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:03.720 And I was like, you know what, I'm not really 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:04.760 doing a lot for my birthday. 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:09.640 But Lisa sent me beautiful flowers in that's messed up 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.800 colors everybody, which I will take a picture of it. 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.200 There was the story you see one hot pink thing 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:17.000 in there? If I'm going off the photo, but I 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:18.880 know you like hot pink. I was trying, well, no, 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.160 there was when I saw the picture, Oh okay something. Honestly, 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:24.320 I feel bad that I said something negative because I do. 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.359 I think the the local floorist in your neighborhood is 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.400 incredible and I was happy I thought they were, And honestly, 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.640 I'll tell you without I'm not complimenting you to for 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.200 any kind of brownie points. 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.200 Rosie goes, this is the best one, and I go 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:44.200 those are Lisa's. She was definitely weighing in. Although my 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.520 brought me some beautiful flowers my parents. But it was nice. 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:50.840 But like, so my friend and I we swapped days 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.760 where I watched her kids. So her and her husband 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:54.520 go out for her birthday a couple weeks before, and 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:56.880 then she was watching my kids. She knows my kids. 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.400 My kids go to bed. There's the same shit every night. 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:02.040 Usually Rosie goes right to bed, and Oscar will come 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:03.640 out a couple times to be like, did. 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.680 You know that alicorns or unicorns that can also fly? 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.400 Like He'll come out with some dumb little thing and 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.000 then you walk them back to bed. He maybe does 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:12.360 that two or three times, and that's it. 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:13.799 I go out. 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:16.080 First of all, you were in the car with me 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.480 when our friend recommended this restaurant to me. She goes, 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:21.680 go to this restaurant, a Pasiting and it's so fod. 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:23.880 I'm sorry, Kara, you told me ahead of time that 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.119 there was no reservations, and I know for a fact 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.040 this is not something that you can handle. 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.320 But she got it. 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.560 No, of course it sound like she made it sound like, 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.039 even if you have to wait for forty five minutes, 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:37.320 you go across the street and get a drink. 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.880 It was a two hour wait, two hour waight that's 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.040 Friday night? Yeah, I know. So I was like I 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:42.640 should have wait. 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:44.479 Honestly, I should have been a better friend and been like, 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.720 are you sure you don't want to make a backup preservation? 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:48.919 Because I know you're right, not for you. And I 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:49.880 can't believe I did it. 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:51.400 I think I was just like I didn't want to 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:52.840 think about anything for the birthday, did it. 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.960 I was just like, yeah, we'll just go try this place. 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.280 If it doesn't work whatever. So we go. 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.679 They're like two hourweight. I'm like, all right, never mind, 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.560 we'll go somewhere else. So I'm on Rezie, I'm trying 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:05.560 to find another place to go. My friend is texting me, going, hey, 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:10.760 So they're both screaming for you and it's been fifteen minutes. 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:12.080 Is there some kind of trick? 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.200 And I go what, like they never do that, They're 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.479 never like, you know, I go out of town. I 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.400 go out all the time, Like they don't. They don't 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:23.039 ever do that. So I go, let me FaceTime you. 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.599 So I'm on the streets facetiming my kids in. 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.080 The book going we want you? Where are you? 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.039 I go, you, guys, this is my birthday. This is 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:32.840 not fair. But they're three and five. You can't really 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:36.400 reason with them like that. And I'm like, okay, I don't. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.320 They won't stop. They won't stop to listen to me. 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.799 They won't stop. So I go, all right, I guess 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:44.839 we're coming home. So we go home and the minute 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.160 I walk in the door, I can see them on 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.240 their little cameras. They're asleep. They're both asleep. So I 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.640 walk in the door. My friend is like, I'm so sorry. 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.680 I just there was nothing. They were feeding off each other. 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:58.279 They wouldn't stop. And I was like, okay, is it 0:06:58.320 --> 0:06:59.960 okay if we go back out? And she was like, no, 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.919 of course, go out. So now it's just an hour 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.280 of the night has been sidetracked. So we ended up 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.960 going out someplace in Silver Lake and it was fun, 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:11.720 and I was going to go to James o'domian's album 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.720 release and I was like, honestly, I'm a little bit 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.320 emotionally exhausted after but it was at acbar where you 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:18.000 and I did learn the words bitch, which is a 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:19.640 gay bar on the What. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.960 Did you eat? Was this still Italian? What did you have? 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:22.760 An impossible? 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:23.080 Yeah? 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:24.679 So we went to Marco Polo. 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:28.120 We went to Marco Polo at the Silver Lake Hotel, 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.120 Silver Lake Pool and Hotel or something like that. Yeah, 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.920 and our friend had been there before, so I was like, 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:35.920 I think, I know, this place seems like pretty good. 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.640 And they had they had vodka pasta. You know, they 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.400 had vodka sauce pasta, and that's kind of my my kryptonite. 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:43.000 So I was like, we'll go there. So it was 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.200 nice and we were able to like kind of reset 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.840 the night. But I was like, I was like cursing 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:49.360 my children on my way to the car. It was like, 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.480 these little fuckers are ruining my birthday. And then I 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.440 get home and they're just little sleeping angels. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:56.040 Like, well, I thought it. I mean, this is your 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.160 friend doing you a favor, so it's fine. As a 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:02.720 former professional child's care tape, I would never have called 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.360 the parents after only fifteen minutes of screaming. So I 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.800 hope she's not a listener, because that's my opinion. 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.800 She's not and I was a little bit thinking that, 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:13.680 but I was also like, I was. 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:18.280 Here to tell you as a professional. She is there like. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.440 Her daughter and my daughter are friends. I was kind 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.320 of like, maybe she's being too nice. 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:24.920 I don't know. I was like, you got to just 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:26.600 tell them to shut the hell up. I don't know. 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:28.840 That's obviously not how I disciplined my children. 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.440 Everybody, but like, well, no, because there was one time 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.839 where you had to go, you know, to the Christmas pageants. 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:35.720 You know, Jared had to be a work something was happening. 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.240 So I stayed with Oscar and everyone was like, I 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:39.839 don't know, can you do it? And I'm like, yeah, 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.080 I'll ignore him while he screams and he will stop 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:43.120 and yeah did. 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.480 And he did, Yeah, and he did. 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.520 And I ate my you know McDonald's as I watched 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:50.920 him scream for a little bit and then he stopped. 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:52.760 He was quiet, and when I got home, he was 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.719 just sitting there watching TV and glancing at Lisa once 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:56.960 in a while and having a time. 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.600 It was fine. Yeah, I was totally fine. I just 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:06.880 feel like if it was an hour, maybe. 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:11.600 Yeah, I'm sorry, Like, especially because they're three and five, 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.480 like they're verbal It's not like it's like I wouldn't 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:15.680 let a little tiny baby cry for an hour because 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:17.560 you do, something could be wrong or whatever. But like 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.600 they're verbal, they can be like my ankle's broken, you know, 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.360 like whatever. So they were just putting on a show 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.280 for her because the next day, you can better believe. 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.920 We had a little family meeting first thing, and I 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.839 was like, that will not happen again, Like you will 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.479 not be doing that. I have to go out sometimes, 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:37.880 I have to go out and work. They get a 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.479 babysitter every Wednesday when I go out and do my show. 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:42.920 So I'm like, you guys had a babysitter two nights ago. 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.440 What the hell? They also had a babysitter while we 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.320 were out of town for I know. 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.319 They love that babysitter. This was them putting on a 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.920 little show. They were just kind of like when they 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.199 realize I think that she was gonna FaceTime. Maybe I 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.000 shouldn't have even done the FaceTime, like I just felt 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.560 because it was supposed to be easy, Like when I 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.240 do it for her. Her kids are five and seven, 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.600 I don't even see them. They're not even around. They're 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:09.120 in bed. When I get there, I watched them and 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.160 I don't know who this is. I don't know if 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:11.640 you've met her. 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:15.000 She's like, yeah, I was thinking of a fully different 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:16.079 friend this whole time. 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:18.320 Oh yeah, Now I would have told you if it 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:20.240 was somebody that you know as well. You don't know 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.000 this person, and I don't even think I met them 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:25.920 in passing, but we do swaps every now and then, and. 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:28.679 I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna think I'm gonna have 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:28.960 to give. 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.000 It a little break. She seemed traumatized too. When I 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:32.800 got home, I was like, are you okay if we 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:34.800 go back out? She was like, yeahs long? Are they asleep? 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:36.400 I'm like, they're asleep. I can see them on the 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:41.280 camp sleep. It's like maybe for birthdays. I only do 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.000 now paid babysitters where I can be like your problem, 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:45.199 I'm paying you to deal with it. 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:49.000 But well, because I had a big pasta moment, I 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:53.080 finally made it to chat Chelsea Cafe. I'm part of 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:57.000 the Chelsea Hotel and I wanted to try this flat ravioli. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.680 She saw it on your fucking story and was so, 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.000 I guess so good. 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.720 I guess this is like mac and cheese for kids 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.440 in France is what I heard, Like, this is like 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.800 an afterschool easy dish that the kids eat, but it's 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:14.640 a ravioli. She and I would say, it's like it 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:18.679 felt it was the comfort of a buttered noodle. 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.320 And it's a cheese filling. It's a cheesy ravioli. 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I was so good I 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:26.560 was getting hammered. I had it looks like it has 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.720 like a catch to a pepe sauce on it or something. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:30.880 Yeah, it just looked awesome when I saw it. 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:40.960 So basically I had an insane Saturday where obviously, oh no, 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:44.640 it wasn't Saturday. Was it was Friday? Not that it 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:49.160 fucking matters, So like's no Friday. I go to soul 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.240 Cycle in the morning. For some reason, it just took 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.160 to me. I was so tired. I was just like 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.040 I had to nap. So I ended up napping after 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.760 soul Cycle. By the time I woke up in the afternoon, 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.960 I had plans to meet a friend at like fourish, 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:04.840 so I was like, well, I'm just not gonna eat. 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:08.000 It's two we're gonna eat in a couple hours. I'll 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.120 just you know, see him when I see him. And 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:11.880 then my friends are like, we're actually doing a happy 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:13.480 hour at this other place, and I was like, well, 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.240 we'll meet you later. So I meet my friend at 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:21.319 an empty stomach. I do have two margaritas immediately and 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.040 we and we smoke a joint. Let's be real, So 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.240 like I meet my friend, we smoke a joint. I 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:29.960 have two margarita's. I am sauced as fuck. So then 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.360 he needs to go do some shopping errands, and I'm like, 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.760 let's go. So we're like hammered shopping through the streets. 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.120 We need a piece, so we take a shot somewhere. 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.360 I've still not eaten, not not one bit of food, 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.880 and so then I meet our friends at the Commodore 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.319 and then I I finally eat, but I'm also still 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:52.000 just drinking more so like I'm drinking, I'm eating. And 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.640 then I have four spots that night, one of which 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.880 is at one fifty five am. So it's not like 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.480 and I started early wildly. I usually don't start around nine, 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.640 but like, so it was just sammer. 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.000 I had to run to my first spot at nine. 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.360 So in between like my earlier and my later, I 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:16.120 had this buttered noodle ravioli coucio Pepe, sheet pepe, whatever. 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:16.920 I guess. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.040 I had a food video and I was people are saying, 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.160 I'm misgendering the meat. I didn't know how to say Mortadella. 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.400 I kept saying Mordidella, Mortadello, and I guess. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.560 Yes, mister hearing the meat Mordandella. 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:34.199 Yeah, I kept like switching it back and forth. 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:35.200 I don't know that would tickle you. 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:38.679 So that's so funny. I'm sorry, that's really funny to me. Yeah, 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:44.480 you're like, what is this? This sa Salamo Like we're 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.760 just making We're just changing meats here and there. 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.080 I love it, okay, so but yeah, so it was 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.520 like a wild Friday. And then I finally I think 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.640 got home at like two something three in the morning 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:57.000 from all the spots. 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.960 Wow, and all your spots went well and every day 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.240 because I've been not that you were too too drunk 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.720 because you ate and everything, but like I always remember 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:07.840 being like, oh god, no, I'm like you get on 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.839 stage and you're like, fuck, I'm drunk, Like, id No. 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.960 I wasn't drunk. I was tired. I was just like tired, 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:15.360 like yeah, I don't know. 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.000 I was just uh and I was smart and we 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.280 it was just like, uh, my friend I ran into 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.640 that night. He said that I lived my life like 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.760 a teen who just won the lottery or something, or 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:32.240 like they're like, parents are out of town, it's time 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.480 to live it up. And I'm like, no, I've been 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:39.000 recuperating for days. Oh god, oh my god, I love it. 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.600 I went to a backgammon night last night. 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:42.640 Oh you did. 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.240 I finally did. I went by myself. Yeah, I did it. 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.440 You know, I'll go again. I'll go again. 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:53.320 Backcamm In, you tried to briefly just show me how 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.520 to do it at at the Palm Springs. 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:56.960 Well, I was like watching you and my ohone. 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.640 You guys were kind of like, well, you just have 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.480 to do this, and I was like, it's not computing 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:03.040 for me. So I'm like, maybe Domino's is my thing 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:04.840 that you're gonna actually teach me. And I'm gonna get 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:06.320 because I don't think. I don't know if I see 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.440 it for backcammon, I see it, I see it. But 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:10.320 what were you gonna say? 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:14.800 Cause I don't have actually any fun like tales from backgammon. Well, 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.560 actually it was it was like in midtown it was 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:21.200 very impossible to get to barricades. Everywhere, cops are everywhere. 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.680 I don't know what's happening. And then afterwards, I was 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.000 a little sauced, called a friend and they figured. 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:29.000 Out that all the UN world leaders are meeting. Oh 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:30.440 and I had the UN fuck it. 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.640 Yeah, I was you in General Assembly and there's all 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:35.560 this stuff about how it's the worst traffic week in 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.320 New York. And I was almost like, I'll text Lisa 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:39.880 and tell her, like, by the way, it's you in 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:41.720 General Assembly, Traffic's gonna be bad. And I was like, 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:43.920 she's gonna be like, she's gonna be like you think 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:44.520 I don't know that. 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.280 So I didn't text you. No, I had no idea. 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.360 And I had just gotten stopped a few months earlier 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:53.480 or a month earlier, I don't remember. Time is weird, 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:57.600 but for Biden's motorcade and we weren't allowed to cross 0:15:57.680 --> 0:15:59.360 or anything. So I was like, no, we're allowed to 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.360 walk on these but it's it was like three full blocks. 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.880 I take the train anyways. But yeah, I was finally, yeah, 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:06.320 I was. 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.680 It's a crazy weekend in New York, like I remember, 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.280 or days in New York. I don't know, it's like 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:14.200 how many days it is, but like it's crazy. Oh no, 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.520 I was just gonna say, last night I finished Secret 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.640 Lives of Mormon Wives. Oh wow, So I finished shit 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.040 And yeah, I was really fucking hooked the whole time. 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.920 And I'm still making my way through the Bear. But 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:31.560 I'm not interested the Bear. I don't think I'm gonna 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:32.320 watch season three. 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.200 Maybe when season four comes out and that's really good, 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.240 I'll be like, Okay, I have two things to like 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.800 power Through. I didn't like the trailer. I didn't like 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:42.960 the direction they were going. I'm not interested. I'd rather 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:46.960 be in the fantasy of season two of like wow, 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:48.960 they did it like I like that. 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.040 I don't need him becoming a freak. But oh, I 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.440 don't even know. I haven't even seen season three's trailer. Wait, 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:56.560 what's my watching? 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:58.600 I don't know. I feel like I've said too much. 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.680 No, what season in my wa not like City premiered 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:04.840 like that was a big I know when I haven't 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:05.600 watched it yet. 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:07.800 It's staying on my DVR, but I'm going to watch it. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:08.720 Watched it twice. 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:12.119 I'm pretty happy I did call Spectrum to quit cable. 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.080 I want everyone to know because everyone's always like, wow, 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.040 you still pay for cable, and I did. I was 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.560 able to, through my threats to quit, talk them down 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:20.480 to where I'm paying like thirty dollars a month for 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.560 cable now, So I'm staying with cable for a while. 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.240 So I have my own Bravo and I've got my 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.760 DVR so that I won't like lose track of Bravo 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.840 because that is what keeps me on track. That they're 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.800 sitting right there, I'm not watching the Dubai things. Wait, 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.400 Salt Lake's back and is New York back already? 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:38.000 No? 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.640 No, no, coming up, coming up right. Yeah, we'll give 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.720 you a full lowdown once. Yeah today, Yeah, yeah, I 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:46.680 guess we can get into our a. 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.000 Yeah, this is our I mean, I don't know what 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:52.040 else like. I mean, well, thanks everyone for listening. 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.200 Yeah, you're you know a lot of people we meet 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.200 on the road say they're day one listeners. They heard 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.560 the ad on my favorite murder. Some people have just 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.720 joined to some people you know, are watching us to 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.360 be with us starting from the beginning. Let's yeah, it's 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:10.359 all great. I'm babbling because I'm empty by the listeners. Yes, 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.880 we love We're on tour, come see us live. 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:17.800 Yes, Yes, it's this episode is coming out on October first, 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:21.520 and in two weeks basically we start our Spooky season 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:25.320 tour where we're going to be in Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:28.639 San Francisco, LA, and Portland. 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We 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.120 were obviously holding out for reasons that you can imagine. 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:29.440 We're resolved and we've done this episode at a couple 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:32.040 of live shows, So if you saw it there, I 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.639 would say, still listen today, we've probably got new takes, 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:39.320 new jokes. And this episode is from season eleven, episode thirteen, 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:45.080 and yeah, from back in twenty ten, and it starts 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:47.880 out with a couple stumbling out of a bar, laughing 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:50.560 like comically loudly. They are having the time in their lives. 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:54.000 They're like, oh my god, we're young and drunken in love. 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.199 And she's like, Steve, let's take a pick, and she 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.200 whips out her BlackBerry so she can take a cute 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:00.760 grainy shot to upload a Facebook And just as the 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.240 guy corrects her that his name is Scott, which I love, 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:05.119 they are absolutely about to go home and fuck and 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:08.800 I love it until chaos. A man runs by her, 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.600 grabs her phone and takes off. I don't know, it's 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.960 twenty ten. I had a BlackBerry around that time. I 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:16.679 don't know what you're what the street value is for 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.520 a BlackBerry, but this guy is trying to get it, 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:21.639 so he runs takes off. A cop happens to be 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:23.800 right there and he's like, stop, don't move, and he 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:28.119 gives chase. This police officer is chasing this man through 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:31.439 alley's a little obstacle. Course, he has his gun drawn, 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:34.480 and I guess my thing is, yes, robbing people is bad, 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:36.280 but no one deserves to be shot to death over 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:38.960 a BlackBerry. And that's kind of where a lot of 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:41.200 the problem is with the police. Like I would say, 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:43.520 it's like, yeah, lady, sorry, I ran a couple blocks, 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:46.800 I couldn't find him. Call your insurance, get a new phone, 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:48.359 like it's a one hundred bucks. 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:48.800 Probably. 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:51.520 As the guy corners the guy in the back of 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.440 the alley behind some gate, the purp actually comes out 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:57.040 and he goes, okay, okay, I stole the phone, but 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.359 I didn't do that. He drops the phone on the ground, 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:02.439 and he takes off the cop like has his flashlight, 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:05.359 looks and he sees a ton of blood splattered on 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.159 this like linoleum floor, and it's leading to the body 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:11.119 of a dead woman, and he goes, holy god. And 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:13.480 then he calls for a bus, and just as he 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.880 tells dispatch, I think she's already dead, she gasps for air. 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:20.240 So fuck, she is actually alive. I do appreciate a 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:24.479 little trick like that. He asks who did that? 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:29.680 So that just always reminds me of the sloth guy 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:30.960 from seven. 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:35.960 Oh god, yes, when you're like, there's no possible way 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:39.600 this guy's alive, and then he's like, yeah, oh my god. 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:39.960 Yes. 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:44.800 So the guy asked the police officer that with the flashlight, 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:46.960 who was about to shoot a phone thief, was like. 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:48.080 Who did this to you? 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:52.080 And she goes Mitch, Mitch, like she's spattering out the 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:54.320 word Mitch, and then you know, she can't really say 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:56.119 much because her throat is fully slashed. 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:57.080 I don't know if I mentioned that. 0:21:57.640 --> 0:21:59.760 So now we're at the hospital and the cop is 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:03.040 beson is stable or white, female, mid twenties, no purse, 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:07.399 no id, panties are gone. Sorry I said that. She 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:10.000 was found in an empty restaurant, bruising on her thighs. 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:14.359 Her throat is sliced. And they roll up to uh, 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:17.520 surfer doctor dude. We've talked about him before. He is 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:19.639 a doctor who clearly looks like you should be hanging 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:23.240 ten in Malibu instead, he's a doctor in like the 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:26.160 er in Manhattan. And he's like, they're like, who talked 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:28.280 to the victim and he's like, big, done, done, Sorry, 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:28.600 you can't. 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:29.280 She is dead. 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:32.360 So the victim has passed and the detectives all look 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:33.320 stunned and sad. 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:34.560 This job never. 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:38.280 Gets easier, and Marishka does have a long bob, which 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:41.600 Lisa has mentioned might be one of her favorite hairstyles 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:46.720 of Marishka's, of Olivia Benson's time, and I'm, you. 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:49.680 Know, against the patriarchy, but I like most of her 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:52.480 more feminine hairdoos. 0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:56.800 Yeah, I like it when the locks are flowing and highlighted. 0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:59.840 And yes, I even like a sumher of some hare 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:02.160 with bangs. You know, I'm like in those days too. 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:05.399 So top of act one, Benson is Stabler head to 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:07.480 the scene of the crime. They're looking for the murder weapon. 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:10.760 The cops couldn't find the underwear. It's literally hanging from 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:12.520 a chair across the room. So I don't know why 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:15.920 that was such a big mystery. They're right there, Benson says, Oh, 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:18.800 Mitch must have been filled with rage, whoever this Mitch 0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:21.359 guy is, and Stabler's like, okay, there's empty beer bottles 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:23.800 and candles, so Benson's like, do you think maybe it 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:27.680 started out as a cheap date And then Benson notices 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:30.880 literally the writing on the wall. There is a pentagram 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:33.560 that looks like it's written with dripping blood and it's 0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:36.600 like the number six sixty six and upside down cross 0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:37.359 and all that shit. 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:38.359 Bary Hail Satan. 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:41.120 So now we're back at the precinct and Finn has 0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:43.360 done some legwork to track down the symbol and it's 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:44.520 linked to a singer of a. 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:46.159 Death metal band. 0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:47.800 Like they're like, oh, it's just like heavy metal, and 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.000 he goes, no, like death metal like Black Sabbath or 0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:52.760 Judas Priest, but sicker and more violent. And this is 0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:55.800 kind of a fun little tie in because I see is, 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:57.920 of course the lead singer of a heavy metal band 0:23:57.960 --> 0:23:59.800 called body Count, so he gets to have a little 0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:04.560 fun talking about metal for a moment. Anyway, they are 0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:06.920 looking at a video of this goth man with vampire 0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:09.679 fangs and his name is Trey Greenway, because what a 0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:14.199 scary vampire named Trey Greenway, and he just uploaded a 0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:17.480 music video that was for sure shot at this crime scene. 0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:19.560 The victim is not to be found in the video, 0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:21.760 but Finn's like, well, she could have been the opening 0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.840 act or the cool down, like after he's all, you know, 0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:28.479 revved up from doing his video and stablers like I 0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:30.320 kind of doubt it. This guy looks like he's in 0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:32.600 it for the shock value and the fame, not murder. 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:36.240 But Trey does have a record, so we could go 0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:39.879 check him out. Melinda's report confirms that there was a 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:43.199 sexual assault, but no fibers, no prints, no fluids, so 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:47.560 not great for evidence. Craigan suggests, let's start a face 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.920 union page for our Jane Doe and hope it goes viral. 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.520 What a wild thing to pop up in your people 0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:57.439 you may know section, Just the dead photo of a 0:24:57.480 --> 0:24:59.480 woman that's like, Hi, I'm Jane Doe. 0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:01.399 Want to poke me? 0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:01.760 Like? 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:05.080 What a weird fucking thing for Craigan to suggest. 0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:08.160 Also feels very old, like let's start a face union 0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:10.520 page and hope it goes viral. People's social media pages 0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:12.879 don't really go viral. I mean, like you know what 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.400 I mean. You get a lot of followers or friends, 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:16.960 I guess, but that's not the same thing. 0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:19.320 So then Benson says, and Elliot. 0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:21.720 And I will go track down count Chocula, which I 0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.959 do think is funny to call this wanna be vampire 0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:27.840 count Chocula. So now they're at Trey Greenway's place in 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:31.720 Brooklyn and it's a candle explosion, there's candles everywhere, white 0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:34.800 sheets draped everywhere. Benson comes in with another killer line. 0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:37.600 This guy's single handedly keeping Peer one in business, and 0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:41.440 I love that as a former Peer one devotee Rip 0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:45.560 Pier one. They hear intense screaming and whip out their guns, 0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:47.280 and there's a woman in a purple bra and her 0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:48.960 arms are tied up above her head and a man 0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:52.639 is biting her neck. So some vampire sex play is 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:55.360 happening here. So now we cut to the precinct where 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:57.880 they're trying to bring Trent in and he's all like, wait, 0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:01.280 a vampire cannot enter a room unless he invited, and 0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:04.200 Stable just shoves him into the room and goes, there's 0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:08.080 your invitation. This episode really is truly full of laughs, 0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:09.800 and we haven't even gotten to the main part yet. 0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:10.359 That's funny. 0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:15.399 This guy thinks he's like a vampire prince and he 0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:18.040 calls Stabler a human like, very disdainfully like. 0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:21.040 He keeps going okay, human like, it's so. 0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.399 Funny, and Stabler goes, all right, ask clown, if you 0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:25.399 were a vampire, you couldn't see your reflections and he 0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:27.600 stands him in front of the mirrored glass. Then the 0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:29.800 guy waits like a beat and then he thinks fast 0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:32.080 and he goes, I do not see a reflection, and 0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:36.480 it's like sure, jam. So Benson is with the goth 0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:38.679 girl now in another room. You know, they've got the 0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:41.120 vampire in cement room bars, they've got the poor vampire 0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:46.000 girl victim in Blind's regular room, right, and so filing 0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:47.520 cabinet blinds, what are we calling that room? 0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:48.000 I forgot? 0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:52.960 Benson is like, so, what was going on? And she's like, well, 0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:55.800 he wasn't attacking me. I love it. He's helping me 0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:59.600 transition from CI to sang. Benson kink shames her a 0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:01.439 little bit, and she like, is like, what are you 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:04.520 talking about. She's like, well, I feed off psychic energy 0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:08.400 of others. But Trey has already elevated to a Sang vampire. 0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.639 And Benson's like as in sanguine, which is you know, 0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.919 having to do with blood, and she calls him her 0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:17.240 master and she is his willing victim. But she really 0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:19.600 does sound like a scare drone, like she's the girl 0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:21.720 is playing it funny, like she's playing it well, like 0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:24.160 because she's like, no, he. 0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:27.600 Is my master and I'm willing. I'm willing. 0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:29.720 No I want to do this, Like she definitely feels 0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:32.760 like she's like, I'm in too far, but whatever, and 0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:35.680 then in amazing editing, Benson throws down the photo of 0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:38.199 Jane Doe and then it opens up on Stabler like 0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.760 also throwing down the photo of Jane Doe, and the 0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:44.840 vampire goes, if you must know human, and then he's like, 0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.560 I've never even seen the victim. I wasn't even in 0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.800 the building that night. I was auditioning bands for my 0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:52.320 upcoming tour and I was shredding with them in the 0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:56.399 Bronx all night. So the blood from the wall, the 0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:59.520 girl is like, I gave that to him as an offering, and. 0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:01.600 It turns out it's not even her blood. Dude. 0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:04.399 She works at a blood bank and she steals bags 0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.240 of blood for this dude, so blood that people are 0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:12.199 donating to give to victims of like car crashes and blood. 0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:13.600 Yeah, I'm giving blood. 0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:15.080 I'm trying to get blood on the rag and if 0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.440 some stupid bitch is giving it to her vampire boyfriend, 0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:18.120 I'm pissed. 0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.520 The Red Cross better have safeguards against that. 0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:23.400 So Benson like hates this and is like, yo, bitch, 0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:25.560 this is a crime and she's like, I know, but 0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.919 he can't bite Randoms because he's really scared of getting HIV. 0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:32.600 And plus the sex is super hot, So we're getting 0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:35.480 to the bottom of why this girl is in this situation. 0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:39.600 This guy, apparently, this vampire has good dick. So back 0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:41.880 at the office, this all checks out and has been 0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:43.560 a total waste of time, except for the fact that 0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.560 has been kind of hilarious. Craigimblows and saying that they've 0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:50.040 discovered that the victim had a clotting disorder called Stuart 0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:54.280 Prower deficiency, so the murder itself may have been unintentional. 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.200 There was rust found in the laceration, so it's possible 0:28:57.480 --> 0:28:59.720 that she got cut while she was being yanked into 0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.680 the bill and that murder like wasn't the primary motive, 0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.920 and Benson's like, well, it still is murder, and then 0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:09.320 gives this horrific example of a girl having an asthma 0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:12.120 attack while being raped and she died, and like, I 0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.800 have asthma and now I'm scared of that happening. But suddenly, 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.600 as they're having this conversation, about a dozen women walk 0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:24.520 in silently just holding a picture of the Jane Doe 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:29.280 flier that says do you know me? And Craigan is like, hey, ladies, 0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:31.720 if there's a problem, we would really help if someone 0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.160 could talk. And then we hear a familiar voice from 0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:36.320 the back of the crowd going, you're damn right, there's 0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:41.000 a problem, and it's Kathy Griffin marching forward in bangs 0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.560 and an attitude, and she goes, this woman's name is 0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.480 Alyssa Davies and she's one more lesbian who is dead 0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:51.360 because of the NYPD. And then dramatic music stings and 0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:56.760 we're like, what is happening? So we open on act two, 0:29:56.920 --> 0:30:00.600 it's Kathy Griffin going quote where Dyke's we're pissed and 0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.440 we're not leaving till we get results, which is not 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.920 a good catchphrase. And I really thought lesbians were better 0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:09.040 at rhyming. Craigan goes, so you're the leader, and Kathy 0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.760 Griffin goes, nothing gets by you, Curly, I mean, I'm 0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:15.160 already dying calling Cat bald q ball Captain Craig and 0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:19.880 Curly is so funny. She introduces herself as Bab's duffy, President, 0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:25.360 founder and spokeswoman for lesbistrong dot com, which Benson has 0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:27.680 heard of but she made the mistake of calling it 0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.200 a gay rights group, and Babs corrects her, it's a 0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:34.240 lesbian rights only no other rights are allowed. Babs calls 0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.960 the cops clowns, and Craigan is like, hold up, we 0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:40.800 actually love the LGBT community, and uh oh, he did 0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.760 not include the QIA, and Babs is not gonna let 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:47.840 him forget it. Sabler knows LGBTT, but what's the QIA. 0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:52.440 She fills in questioning intersects and allies and says, stay 0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:55.719 with me. To Bent to Sabler like, I know you're 0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:57.959 a dumb, idiot white man, but here's what they all 0:30:57.960 --> 0:30:58.360 stand for. 0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.959 Now. This is something I mentioned in last week's episode 0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:02.240 that we. 0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.560 Were talking about. We were talking about kind of older language. 0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:10.080 A is stands for a sexual in LGBTQIA, but I 0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:12.920 remember also thinking that it was allies, and I was like, oh, 0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.680 did I make that mistake or did SVU teach me that? 0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:19.760 When did I learn that? And so apparently in the 0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:23.520 eighties A stood for ally among other definitions like a 0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:28.320 sexual agender, so that closeted people could attend rallies, meetings, 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.480 events and stuff without fear. But the community has since 0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:35.720 moved away from that, and nobody wants to include allies 0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:37.560 in Lgbtquia like they're like. 0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:38.760 We're a marginalized community. 0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.200 You don't get to be part of our acronym just 0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:44.360 for being nice to gay people. So it apparently no 0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.240 longer stands for ally, but a lot of older generations 0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:52.080 still think that. So here we see the beginning of 0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:57.760 a beautiful enemy ship between Babs and Stabler. Okay, Stabler said, yeah, 0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:59.959 I have a tough time keeping up with political correct 0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:02.800 and then Bob goes, all I'm getting from you is 0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.120 your pis poor patriarchal attitude. So take it down to 0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.560 notch Jack web And I looked up Jack Webb, who 0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:10.640 is an old actor from Dragnet, so I guess this 0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:15.040 is also an extremely old reference. Olivia steps up and 0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:17.960 talks all about the alliances that the NYPD has with 0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.880 gay organization, and Babs is like, blah blah blah, it's 0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.080 all bullshit and calls Olivia out for being part of 0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:27.000 the heteronormative paradigm. So Babs is on one. 0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:27.560 Okay. 0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.360 Then they get back to the victim, Melissa. Babbs explains 0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:34.080 that she is the latest victim in an epidemic of attacks, rapes, 0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.000 and murders of lesbians in the city. Craigan and Liver 0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.440 are like, well, we have the stats and this isn't 0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:42.400 an epidemic or even a pattern that we've noticed, and 0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:44.760 Bab says, well, I'm here to open your eyes. But 0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:46.840 Stabler wants to cut to the chase. He's like, did 0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.560 you know this woman? And Babs goes, oh, yeah, because 0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.240 all lesbians are lovers. Because if two lesbians know each other, 0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.120 the next thing, they're in their bron panties. Going down 0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:58.120 like the Titanic, I mean, shoot, all the writing Emmys 0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.520 over to the cast for season eleven and I'm loving this. 0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:05.600 So well, my thing is it's Kathy. It's Krathy Griffin success. 0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.760 So it's like, but it's as to you, it's a 0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:14.800 serious Yeah, so I am curious at the improverse all writing. 0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.680 And did Neil Baar play a heavier hand than normal 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:18.800 in this episode? 0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:19.080 Yeah? 0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:22.840 I have a lot of questions for sure, And yes. 0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.720 I have a lot of questions, but going down like 0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.360 the Titanic is like a really to me. It's a 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:30.280 very clever way of being able to also get it 0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:33.080 on NBC because you're not saying going down on each other, 0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.440 You're saying going down like the Titanic. Like it's a 0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.880 clever way, I think to get talking about oral sex 0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:43.840 very graphically on network television. So Stabler cannot believe this woman, 0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.760 and Babs is just staring daggers at him. She says 0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:48.480 she wants to come with them to notify the next 0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:51.040 of Cannon. Stabler's like, fuck, no, we will arrest you 0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:52.880 and then all your followers will hear that you're the 0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:56.520 problem and not the solution. And so Babs finally reveals 0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:59.520 that this woman's girlfriend is a woman named Sharon Harris 0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.080 and gives her her exact address with apartment number that 0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.680 she has memorized. So in the next scene, and we're 0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:06.920 seeing a video of Alyssa from when she was alive 0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.359 and her girlfriend Sharon is watching it looking forlorn as 0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:13.400 fuck and Sharon says, she was the love of my life. 0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:16.160 We were engaged. They asked her, do you know anyone 0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:16.640 named Mitch? 0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:17.120 She doesn't. 0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:19.840 She denies knowing anyone with that name, and she's like, 0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:23.799 I don't know many men. And Sharon tells Olivia that 0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:26.000 she works at a lesbian bar called The Kiddy corner 0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:29.200 and Alyssa stopped in Tuesday night at eight o'clock in 0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:31.600 a great mood. She had some drinks and she left, 0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:34.719 and that was two days ago. And they're like, weren't 0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.200 you worried? And she's like, no, because sometimes she would 0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:38.840 just get struck with an idea for a piece of 0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.080 jewelry and go to her studio and stay there for 0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:43.600 days until it was perfect. And I thought she was 0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:46.680 honestly there making our wedding bands, so okay, she thought 0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:49.200 she was struck with, like, you know, the artist's way 0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:52.400 or something. But also, I will say that half the 0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:54.960 people in this cast are calling her Alisa and half 0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:57.880 are calling her Alissa, So they first call her Alissa, 0:34:57.880 --> 0:34:59.960 so I'm going with that, but her name does change 0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:03.520 pronunciation from person to person. As they leave, Stabler points 0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:06.160 out to Benson, did you see that Sharon was completely 0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:09.439 ignoring me? And then Babs Duffy shows up right behind 0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.120 them in the nick of time, going have you looked 0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:14.719 between your legs lately? And they're like, what are you 0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:16.600 doing here? And she goes, oh, right, because I'm a lesbian, 0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:18.800 I should be home with my cat's sheet rocking my bathroom. 0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:22.239 It's just like it's just hit after hit and I'm 0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:23.760 really enjoying it and. 0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:28.080 That unpacked bits. I mean, yeah, it is like it 0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.760 changes the genre of SVO. That's how funny this episode. 0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:31.880 It's so funny. 0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:34.719 This is this was actually I know, we said we've 0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:36.359 done this as live shows. We did this as our 0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:38.600 very first live show because we were like, this has 0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:43.160 the laughs that can sustain a live show. This episode absolutely, 0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:47.239 And so Babs goes, Okay, what's our next move? Like 0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:50.080 she's on team cop now, and they're like, go home, Babs, 0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.160 and she's like, what's your problem? Stabler? And he goes, 0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:54.359 have you looked in the mirror lately? And she goes, 0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:56.080 you don't want me as your enemy? And Stable goes, 0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:57.879 I'm pretty sure I don't want you as my friend either, 0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:00.440 and she goes, oh good, because a friend would tell 0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:03.480 you your ass is huge. I'm like, oh my god, 0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.320 not Bab's duffy going after Stabler's huge dump truck of 0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.560 an ass a full decade before the Internet. 0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:11.440 Like I'm obsessed. 0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:15.520 She starts going in on Stabler's ass until Benson interrupts 0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.360 and Babs is like, look, I don't expect Asi mcbig 0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:20.959 pants over here to catch anybody. But Benson, you seem 0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:24.200 pretty on the ball and like they're just getting in 0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:27.000 the call at car ignoring her, and then she pulls 0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.359 out her like final card to play that she's been 0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:33.240 working closely with Brooklyn Bias Crimes. Go talk to Omar Ellis, 0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:36.160 He'll back me up. So now Benson and Stabler are 0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:40.240 at Bias Crimes task Force talking to Detective Omar Ellis, 0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:43.000 who says Babs is a nutcase. He's like, she's trying 0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.200 to make a connection where there isn't one and threatens 0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.560 new media all kinds of exposure, and Stabler thinks she's 0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:51.840 extorting people for constributions to Lesbie Strong and because for 0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:54.839 Babs it's all about Lesbian's twenty four seven. So they 0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:56.600 asked are like, so is there any evidence of a 0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.200 trend of lesbian's being attacked? And he's like, not really, 0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:01.680 but these attacks to do the attacks that we do 0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:05.120 see happen near lesbian bars, which is hardly a trend 0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:07.719 because like obviously when people are drinking, you know, there's 0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:11.920 more violence is likely, or people are likely to attack 0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:14.840 people near a lesbian bar if that's something that they're against. 0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:18.359 So where did this attack happen Manhattan forty eighth and tenth, 0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:22.240 So that's Hell's Kitchen, And somebody goes, that's a fast 0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.399 growing lesbian area, and I was like, I don't really 0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.839 remember any specifically lesbian areas of New York City. Hell's 0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:30.239 Kitchen definitely, at that time was a fast growing gay 0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:32.919 area of the city, like all kinds of gay bars, 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:37.320 lesbian bars were popping up there. So he recommends asking 0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:41.160 patrons and employees at the Kitty Corner, which sounds like, 0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.440 what's the one that Oh, no, the Cubby Hole is 0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:46.239 the lesbian bar that I've been to a bunch of times, 0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:47.320 which I don't know if it's. 0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:50.399 Still there, But the Kidie Corner, it's Andy Cohen's favorite bar. 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.239 Oh the Cubby Hole. Oh great, yeah, I actually one 0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:54.600 time I made out with a guy at the Cubby Hole. 0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:56.920 I don't know how that happened, but I was not 0:37:57.000 --> 0:38:00.680 planning for it. I was quite drunk. So he recommends 0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:02.799 going to check out the Katie Corner. So the next 0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:06.840 scene is we run into Babs's assistant, whose name is Rosemary, 0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:10.080 which is my mother's name, and she is played by 0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:14.640 none other than Broadway Baby Sutton. Foster, who also is 0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.640 currently starring in a new revival of Once Upon a Mattress, 0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:19.320 which is a musical that I really enjoy. 0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:21.359 Originally not originally on. 0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:25.759 Broadway, I don't think, but the TV version had Sarah 0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:28.320 Jessica Parker as Fred, the lead character. 0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:29.880 That's who Sutton Foster is playing. 0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:32.720 And she also was the lead of the show Younger, 0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:37.879 where her romantic interest was personal laundry spokesperson and mister 0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:40.240 Mersca Hargate Trevor Langan. 0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.280 Aka Peter Herman. 0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:46.680 Excuse me, So she's very connected to the SVU universe 0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:49.640 in this way, Sutton Foster, and she's handing out flyers 0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:51.680 going kill her on the loose, Killer on the loose. 0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:54.719 It's very like it reminds me of like Newsies being 0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:57.160 like extractra come get it, there's a killer on the loose. 0:38:58.040 --> 0:38:58.840 She explains that. 0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:03.760 Chris Bail hated being in Newsies to the point where 0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:07.960 they'll have they'll have like a screening or something like. 0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:10.359 He doesn't go to the reunions. He doesn't talk about it. 0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:13.239 If it's brought up, he like is pissed that it's 0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:17.480 brought up. Like he's really as upset about his Newsy's past. 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:20.640 I mean, I didn't know that, but he so seems 0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:25.000 so difficult that like, yeah. 0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:26.880 It's like you were young and you did a fun movie. 0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:27.719 Stop but he. 0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:29.360 And it's like a movie that a lot of people 0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:31.400 love and a door and it became a musical that 0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:33.160 people love and a door. I don't know, like, get 0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:36.279 over yourself, go lose a million pounds or gain a 0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:40.919 million pounds for your next role, sir. So she's kill 0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:42.239 her on the loose, Kill her on the loose, and 0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:44.160 then they're talking to her. They're like, what's up, Like, 0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:46.640 give us some background on, like how you're involved in 0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:49.880 this community. She's like, you know, Babs is and she's like, 0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:51.680 I know, Babs comes on a little bit strong, but 0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:54.160 she's helped a whole community of women find their voice. 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:57.239 Three years ago, I was in the closet. Babs helped 0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:59.839 me come out and because of Babs, I will never 0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:02.120 be afraid to be who I am. Now, could you 0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.160 do us a favor and find the bastard who murdered 0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:06.200 our friend. It's like, okay, we got it. Well, let's 0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:08.480 think what we're working on actively right now. So they 0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:12.160 go into the kittie corner. And the bartender is like, yeah, 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:14.640 a man named Mitch. Haven't seen that many men at 0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:18.360 this lesbian bar I work at, and she this is 0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:21.400 so unhinged of me, But I recognize this woman from 0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:24.399 Instagram because she is friends with people that I'm friends with, 0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:27.280 and she was in Spam a lot with my friend Jimmy, 0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:31.160 who is another exactly right host Bridger Wineger, who has 0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:34.160 an amazing podcast called I Said No Gifts. His boyfriend, 0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:36.440 Jimmy was in Spam a Lot, and I've seen a 0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:38.560 lot of photos of Leslie and Jimmy together, and I go, 0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:39.479 how do I know this woman? 0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:40.239 Looked her up? 0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:43.920 Went toy Instagram, figured out my, figured out the real mystery. 0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:46.720 And so she's like an actress and a Broadway baby 0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:49.480 and played like the female lead in Spam a lot 0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:52.600 this past year. She says she doesn't know Mitch, but 0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:54.640 have you guys talked to Sharon And she looks like 0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:58.359 she's just making like a perfectly good, little like not 0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:01.280 normal face about Sharon, Like it's a little bit scared 0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:03.640 a little bit, just like if you guys talk to Sharon, 0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:05.600 because she's definitely gonna be someone you want to talk to. 0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:07.720 And they're like, oh, yeah, we talked to her this morning, 0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.440 and they're like She's like, oh okay, so she hadn't 0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:14.040 fully doctor Jekyl and mister hided yet, like cause she 0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:17.480 explains that daytime Sharon is very different from nighttime Sharon, 0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:19.640 like when she comes to the bar at night to work, 0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:22.239 she's dressed differently, she acts differently, she works the door, 0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:24.759 she keeps everyone in line, and they're like, oh, so 0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:28.239 she's the bouncer and Sharon prefers enforce her. The bartender's like, 0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:31.520 I've seen her kick biker's asses. So she describes an 0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:34.239 incident where Sharon screamed at Alissa, but I think she 0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:37.120 calls her Lisa and shoved her just a couple of 0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:40.799 nights ago, and the patio of this place, which is 0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:42.640 by the way, where Sharon said her and Alissa had 0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:44.480 a couple of drinks, but now this bartender is thing 0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:48.240 they actually had quite a violent altercation involving a shove. 0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:52.640 This whole patio and bar is only a few doors down, 0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:54.920 I think from the alley where she died, So it's 0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:57.440 all very close. How long was Sharon gone. She's like, 0:41:57.480 --> 0:41:59.760 I don't know, maybe ten or fifteen minutes. Again, asking 0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:02.719 these ourtenders to explain, to remember tiny details from a 0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:03.319 night filled with. 0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:04.399 People is always so wild. 0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:07.080 She goes, look, I love a strong woman, but Sharon 0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:10.239 Harris as scary as fuck. She goes, she scares me, 0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:12.400 and you gotta go check her out online. She runs 0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:17.120 a gang called Big Apple Aggressives. Okay, then, of course, 0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:20.360 q doctor Huang to break it down for us. Just 0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:23.880 like any other culture, there are subsets of cultures, and 0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:27.560 aggressives are a specific subset of lesbian culture. They adopt 0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:30.919 aggressive attitudes. Some of them bind their breasts, some take 0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:34.320 hormones so that they can articulate musculature in their face 0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:37.439 or grow facial hair, and he says they're not likely 0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:39.840 to be more violent, though this is case by case, 0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:43.080 which Huang basically says, gays and lesbians are just as 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:46.200 prone to domestic violent, substance abuse, sexual assault than anyone else. 0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:49.080 It's just more proof that we're all equal and stablers 0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:51.480 are like, hmm, well not according to Babs. And so 0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.719 he pulls up the Lesbie Strong website where Babs is. 0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:57.200 There's a live stream coming straight from the website. A 0:42:57.239 --> 0:43:00.360 Bab's addressing a crowd and she's talking right to camera 0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.600 telling people to donate to Lesbie Strong because they have 0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:06.279 all these legal resources and counseling resources and stuff. And 0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:10.160 Finn also finds out that Sharon has a history of 0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:12.959 domestic violence. She punched a girl at a street fair 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:15.439 and told her that someone should rape her to teach 0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:18.080 her a lesson. And Benson goes, and that's not being aggressive, 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:19.080 that's being a psycho. 0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:21.320 So put it on a T shirt. 0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:24.480 They also found out that her last girlfriend, Janet Burnell, 0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.080 got an order of protection from her last year. So 0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:29.799 obviously we're hopping in the Ford tourists and we're on 0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:31.840 our way to go talk to this ex girlfriend and 0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:33.480 they've got a picture of her with a black eye, 0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:36.040 and they show it to her and she's like, yeah, 0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:38.920 that's me. Sharon did that to me. But you know 0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:42.080 black eyes heel. The real shit happened after we broke up. 0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:45.240 She goes, Sharon was fucked up. She hacked my email, 0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:49.000 my voicemail. She did all kinds of shit like erasing calls, 0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:52.799 erasing messages, sabotage my business like it took a serious hit. 0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:54.799 I was about to call the cops on her when 0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.440 suddenly it stopped because she goes, I heard she met 0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.839 somebody else, and then they go, yeah, the somebody else 0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:03.719 she did, and then she goes, oh, I never thought 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.640 that Mitch would go this far, and they're like, wait, Mitch. 0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:10.239 Janet goes, yeah, Mitch, it's a pet name we used 0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:10.480 to have. 0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.480 It stands for my bitch. I mean, it's just getting 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:15.160 better and better. It's so funny. Okay. 0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:20.040 So they show up at a protest Babs is organizing, 0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:22.840 and Babs is a yelling at a local print shop 0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:26.080 owner nearby because the flyers say Bab's daffy, and she 0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:30.400 thinks it's prejudice, and she's screaming at this guy like 0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:33.319 I want a refund, I want them redone and this 0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:36.560 guy is a bigot, And then the cops are like, listen, babe, 0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:38.799 a typo is not a hate crime. But Babs can 0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:41.800 smell the cameras and jumps right in with a message 0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:45.440 for this lesbian rapist. She says SVU might be dragging 0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:48.799 their asses, but Bab's duffy is on the case, and then. 0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:51.400 They see Sharon, but I also love. 0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:56.080 At one point, Kathy Griffin's character was like, you would 0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:57.800 not fuck these up if I was straight. 0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:02.720 Yeah, I wrote it down somewhere. Yes, yes, she's literally 0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:04.160 like she's just like a. 0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:05.280 Straight person's flyer. 0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:10.319 I doubt it, like she's really over the top, but 0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.760 you know it, and it's it's hilarious. They're like, Babe, 0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:16.879 typo is not a hate crime, and she's like, actually so. 0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:20.879 Then the cop sees Sharon in the crowd watching and 0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:23.600 they approach her and Sabler makes the mistake of calling 0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:26.840 her Mitch and then he gets straight up punched in 0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:29.359 the face. And if you've been to some of our 0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:32.160 live shows, I do do a super cut of all 0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:34.680 the times that Stabler has gotten his ass kicked, and 0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:38.120 this is the opening. This is the opening image of 0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:41.399 this woman punching his ass right in the face. I mean, 0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:45.439 she clocks him good. And then they arrest her while 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:48.759 Babs yells police brutality, police brutality, as if like she 0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:51.720 didn't see the punch just happen, like unfortunately, you cannot 0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:52.319 punch a cop. 0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:53.960 So now post. 0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.319 Punch, were at the precinct and Benson's trying to like, 0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:58.799 I don't know, dab the wound. I can't even see 0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:01.840 what's wrong with him, but he's obviously resisting. 0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:05.239 Yeah, think about the right and like that that's who 0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:09.160 they They think we're all Babs Duffy, like Republicans. 0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:12.719 We are all Babs, yes, yes, yes, and we're all 0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:16.600 like this wouldn't have happened to a straight white man. Absolutely, 0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:19.120 that's what I see us, says, that's why we're so 0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:20.120 annoying to them. 0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:22.120 We're just a bunch of the Babs. 0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:25.959 Also, just the name is so crazy, and yeah, it's 0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:26.920 so perfect. 0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:31.520 Yes, Babs Duffy, it's that's for Barbara. Babs is Barbara. Yeah, 0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:36.520 Babs is Barbara. Uh hello, Barbara Streisand I guess yeah, Babs. 0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:39.520 So now, and Sin is like, you know, tending to 0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:41.719 Stabler's wound, and he's all, I'm fine, I'm I'm a 0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:44.879 tough guy whatever, and then they're like what happened here, 0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:46.799 and Finn's making fun of Stabler because he got hit 0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:49.279 by a chick and cabots there being like, well, if 0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:52.120 a suspect punches an officer, charges get filed, and Stabler's 0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:54.480 like downplaying it, being like I'm fine, I'm fine, and 0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:55.960 she goes, well, would you be saying that if a 0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:58.480 man punched you? And it's true, like he would absolutely 0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:01.319 be leveraging it to get her to talk, like if 0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:05.040 that's you know, And so they go to interrogate Mitch 0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:10.200 looking for Lorne again. Mitch is the queen king of 0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:13.160 the Forlorn, looks looking out of the bars in the 0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:16.239 cement bar's room, and she refuses to talk with a 0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:18.480 man in the room, and she basically begs Benson. She's like, 0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:20.160 please tell him to leave and I'll talk to you. 0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:23.960 So then in the squad room, Stabler walks out and 0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:26.600 Cabot's like that was quick, and you know, He's like, 0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:28.880 this woman won't talk to me. So Benson's on it, 0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:33.000 and then Cabot's there. Bab runs in yelling to Stabler, 0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:34.960 you pig headed son of a bitch. But then she 0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:37.600 immediately stops yelling when she gets a load of Cabot, 0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:40.839 like she is full speechless, eyes popping out like oh 0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:44.040 got like the second she sees Cabot, and Cabot's like, 0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:47.080 I'll give you to some privacy of bats goes, you 0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:50.280 don't have to, and then Stabler gohoes, we're talking in private, 0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:52.640 let's go. And it is very funny because she is 0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:56.239 like cartoon lesbian being of course blown away by how 0:47:56.280 --> 0:48:01.600 gorgeous Stephanie marches So Bab's basically is like Sharon couldn't 0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:03.560 have done it, Like she wouldn't kill anyone because she's 0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:06.000 a woman, and women are only violent when threatened, and 0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:10.040 stablers like, I'm sick of this PC crap, So drink 0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:12.799 for the title of the episode, unless you're you know, 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:15.480 driving or taking care of children. And she's like, you 0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:18.160 don't like us challenging the patriarchy and he's like, no, 0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:21.560 we have probable cause on Sharon. So then we cut 0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:25.560 back to which obviously probable cause another PC. They do 0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:27.520 a lot of wordplay in here where there's other things 0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:31.840 that stand for PC. Cut back to interrogation and Sharon 0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:34.919 is like, I did not kill ALYSSA. Half the cast 0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:36.680 is called oh, I already wrote this. Half the cast 0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:38.960 is calling her Alissa, the other half is calling her Lisa. 0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:41.960 Benson says, you have a serious anger problem, and she 0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:44.719 denies that and is like, you punched my partner, and 0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:46.799 she's like, you've hit people on the street and you've 0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:48.520 been lying to us, and she's like, I did it 0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:50.600 lie And Benson goes, you lied about the bar, you 0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:52.560 lied about her going to her studio. You lied about 0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:55.680 not knowing who Mitch was. She like grips the caged 0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:58.319 windows and she's like, hasn't anyone ever called you by 0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:01.719 a special name? And Olivia's like, not, bitch, and then 0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:04.960 Sharon says, straits never understand people like me. And Benson's like, 0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:07.400 I want to help you. What did Alyssa do to 0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:09.160 make you so angry? What did she do? And then 0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:11.399 she's denying it all and says that they were in love, 0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:13.520 but like She's like, well, why were you yelling at 0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:15.720 her right before she got murdered? And she goes, because 0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:17.880 I get angry about things and I hit people people 0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:19.680 I love and Alyssa knew that, and she got me 0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:22.280 into therapy and she was helping me be a better person. 0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:23.959 Olivia says. 0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:26.680 When the cop asked Alyssa who did this, she said 0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:29.200 Mitch and Sharon says she must have been scared. She 0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:32.080 was asking for me. She loved me, And so Sharon 0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:35.279 starts to cry like she's very upset. Finn interrupts and 0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:38.359 Benson is like, give us a second, and he goes, nah, 0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:41.920 I can't purp struck again. So now we're at Mercy 0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:46.080 General Hospital and sadly our victim is Rosemary aka Sutton Foster, 0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:49.680 but she is alive, but she has been assaulted. Everyone 0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:51.959 went to the bar after the flying, and she wanted 0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:54.200 to go home to update the Lesbie Strong website about 0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:54.760 the rally. 0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:57.320 She was alone. She passed by an empty doorway. 0:49:57.600 --> 0:50:00.680 You should imagine like going home from the and doing 0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:04.680 more rally paperwork at like, I know, take a load off, girl, 0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:06.960 I know, go have a light beer somewhere. 0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:07.800 Girl, it's cool. 0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:11.880 You can update the flat like the website later tomorrow morning. Yeah, 0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:15.480 so wild to rush showman to update the site. Yeah. 0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:18.320 So she was alone, she passed by an empty doorway. 0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:21.000 She was dragged into an empty building. The guy put 0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:22.839 his hands over her mouth, like from behind. She didn't 0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:25.960 see anything. Rosemary doesn't remember anything about the purp, but 0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:29.719 heard his voice saying, quote, you dykes have ruined my neighborhood. 0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:33.640 So she blames herself for not grabbing evidence or DNA, 0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:36.120 and they are like, girl, it's not your fault. You survived. 0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:39.040 You know the usual truth about what they say to victims. 0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:41.560 Then she gets so stressed and jumps up and is like, 0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:43.600 oh my god, oh my god, my phone, my BlackBerry. 0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:46.000 It's been taken and it has all the names and 0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:49.880 addresses of every member of lesbian Lesbie Strong and all 0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:52.960 the lesbians like basically in the neighborhood. Babs runs in 0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:56.160 and Stabler is like, please leave, and then Rosemary reveals 0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:58.720 that the Purp had a message for her. He said, 0:50:58.760 --> 0:51:01.320 tell that bitch bab stuff, I'm coming for her next 0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:05.000 and Babs looks shook, just to Smidge, just a little 0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:08.080 bit shook. In the next scene, she is, of course 0:51:08.120 --> 0:51:10.840 trying to deny protective custody, but the detectives try to 0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:13.960 talk her into it, and Stabler goes, it's protective custody, 0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:17.600 the good kind of PC. So another PC. She says, 0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:21.480 read my perfectly glossed lips. I don't run, okay, bitch? 0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:23.919 Love that, And Benson is like, what are you gonna 0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:26.560 do when you get killed? And then they tap into 0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:28.920 her ego and they're like, what are all these scared 0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:31.760 lesbians gonna do without their leader? And she's like, okay, fine, 0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:33.680 but it has to happen at my apartment and like 0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:36.960 put a detail on my apartment or whatever. So Benson 0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:41.000 goes to Babs's apartment with her, closes her laptop and is. 0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:42.920 Like what did I just say? No internet? 0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:45.240 And she's like, hello, I have to work on my blog. 0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:49.520 She's hilarious, very twenty ten. She's like, I have a 0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:52.520 word press blog. I need to update. There's a rally tomorrow, 0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:54.840 she says. And Benson's like, there's no rally until we 0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:57.359 catch this guy. And there's no secret tweeting either, because 0:51:57.360 --> 0:51:59.960 Babs is like over on her phone kind of like surruptish, 0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:02.680 trying to type out tweets, and Babs is like, I'm 0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:05.040 going crazy, and Benson's like, why don't you just relax? 0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:06.640 And she goes, I never relax. 0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:10.000 I'm always picketing, marketing, I'm always well Marketing's probably right, 0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:13.720 she says, I'm always picketing, marching or planning and marketing basically, 0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:15.879 And she goes, I don't do alone very well. 0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:17.799 And I can relate. This is me. I don't sit 0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:19.319 down and relax very much. 0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:21.440 You know, this is I'm a bab stuffy on the 0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:25.360 scale of you know, virgos. I guess She's like, I 0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:27.279 don't like sitting here while this prick is out there 0:52:27.320 --> 0:52:31.040 attacking my sisters. And Benson says, Stabler is out there 0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:32.799 and he's going to get the perp. He hates when 0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:35.839 people hurt women. Bab says, that's Stabler's got the hots 0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:38.560 for you, and Benson's like, excuse me, like it gives her, 0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:41.520 like gives her like what that thought has never crossed 0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:43.080 my mind? What the fuck are you talking about? 0:52:43.120 --> 0:52:43.359 Face? 0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:46.800 And she goes that's never gonna happen, and then Benson 0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:50.560 changes the subject and is like, so you've been marching 0:52:50.600 --> 0:52:53.040 and active for a while, like, and they start looking 0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:56.080 at a bunch of framed photos of Babs, like all 0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:59.319 over the wall, like at marches, in newspaper articles. She's like, yeah, 0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:01.640 I've been tear gas like she's been a fighter for 0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:04.279 the cause, you know, of lesbian rights. If not a 0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:07.520 little bit closed off, but lesbian writes, at least that's 0:53:07.560 --> 0:53:09.600 why it feels weird to her. She wants to be 0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:12.440 out there kicking ass, not hiding and feeling scared. So 0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:15.000 they're kind of having a bonding moment and Benson is like, 0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:17.040 you'll get through this, I promise, and pats her on 0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:19.480 the shoulder and goes, let's get something to eat. Suddenly 0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:23.560 Babs makes a move and tries to kiss Benson, and 0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:27.280 Benson's like, whoahoo, that's not on the menu, and Bab's 0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:32.120 like immediately is like, is it me like, and Benson's like, no, 0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:34.759 it's me, Like, I'm flattered, but I'm straight, honey, And 0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:37.600 she's like, don't let the haircut and the bootcut jeans 0:53:37.600 --> 0:53:40.680 fool you. I do love Dick, and Bab sells her 0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:44.080 you're like Ellen, Joan Crawford and Calamity Jane all rolled 0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:45.680 into one. And then she goes, if you can balance 0:53:45.719 --> 0:53:48.080 a check book, I'll throw in Sue's orman and you're right, 0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:50.960 this has to be fucking Kathy Griffin, like Kaddey Griffin 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:54.560 has to be writing this shit like and although Calamity 0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:58.319 Jane and Joan Crawford are specifically I would say Neil 0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:01.080 Bear references like I bet he is a Joan Crawford 0:54:01.200 --> 0:54:04.400 stand and then but the Sue's ormon, I bet is 0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:07.600 a Kathy, But well, we'll find out. Babs like doesn't 0:54:07.600 --> 0:54:09.560 believe her when she says she's straight, and she's like, 0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:11.040 believe me. I know how hard it is to have 0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:14.120 conflicting feelings. But the heart wants what the heart wants. 0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:16.879 And Benson is saved at that moment by a knock 0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:19.319 on the door, and it is a police officer taking 0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:22.040 over the next shift. Benson grabs her coat, leaves, and 0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:23.759 she tells the new cop, who happens to be a 0:54:23.760 --> 0:54:25.719 cute young woman. She goes, if I were you, I'd 0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:29.840 stay outside. Like Babs is alone, scared and horny, she 0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:32.480 might come for you. So at the precinct, Benson and 0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:35.400 Stabler are going now through security footage of Rosemary's attack, 0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:37.880 and Benson, of course spots a tattoo on the purp's 0:54:37.920 --> 0:54:40.560 hand and they're like, yep, I've got morales trying to 0:54:40.600 --> 0:54:42.600 clean it up, even though we've heard now since that 0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:44.640 cleaning up images is kind of impossible. 0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:46.000 They're working on it. 0:54:46.360 --> 0:54:50.440 Benson gets serious and asks Stabler question. She's like, hey, ell, 0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:52.399 can I ask you? Do you ever get a gay 0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:55.160 vibe from me? And Stabler goes, would it matter if 0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:57.880 I did? And she's like, don't avoid the question. And 0:54:57.920 --> 0:54:59.760 he's like, well, you haven't had a luck with guys, 0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:03.120 and she's like, it's called being married to the job, dumbass, 0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:06.839 And then the phone rings, Benson answers and Stabler figures out. 0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:09.480 So it's like Stabler thinks she's a lesbian. It's very confusing. 0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:12.600 She knows he's she's he knows she's dated many many 0:55:12.600 --> 0:55:14.960 guys over the course of the last eleven seasons, so 0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:18.000 maybe he's like, I don't know, maybe give it a shot. 0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:20.000 I don't know what he's saying to her, but the 0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:21.400 phone rings. Benson picks up. 0:55:21.480 --> 0:55:26.359 Sabler's like, okay, Sabler basically figures out because of her 0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:28.239 asking that question that Babbs must have hit on her, 0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:30.560 and he goes, you get hit on I get hit 0:55:31.440 --> 0:55:33.640 So yeah, bitch, that's the dynamic, Like, no one wants 0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:35.680 to hit that beautiful face. People want to hit your 0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:37.400 people want to wipe that shitt, eat and grin off 0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:39.920 your face. As my dad used to say to us children. 0:55:40.520 --> 0:55:43.359 Uh uh oh. Olivia hangs up the phone. The purp 0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:46.400 just got shot at Babs Duffy's apartment. Bump, bum bum. 0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:48.400 They run to the scene of the crime, and the 0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:51.680 officer on duty, who Benson has just left at Bab's apartment, 0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:54.239 is explaining to them what went down. Babs went to bed. 0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:56.080 I was doing a walk around of the building. I 0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:58.360 saw a movement on the fire escape outside of Babs's window, 0:55:58.400 --> 0:55:59.719 and I saw this guy trying to get in. 0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:01.280 I shout it for him to stop. 0:56:01.600 --> 0:56:03.719 He was holding a tire iron, so I shot his 0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:05.920 ass and she literally shot his ass, like he got 0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:08.200 shot in the ass, he fell down and he got 0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:10.800 knocked out in the fall off the fire get again. 0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:13.040 Yeah, you're never gonna keep me down. 0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:16.799 Benson says, good work, and then Babs is wearing a coat. 0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:19.799 She's stressed. She's being consoled by Rosemary. There's a huge 0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:21.520 mob of people yelling and a gurney with. 0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:22.719 A shot perp on it. 0:56:23.120 --> 0:56:27.120 Sharon has been released aka Mitch and is blasting through 0:56:27.160 --> 0:56:30.759 the crowd screaming you killed Alyssa. She starts shaking the 0:56:30.800 --> 0:56:34.239 gurney and then flips it over basically as Babs looks 0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:36.360 onto this whole mob scene, very shaken. 0:56:36.600 --> 0:56:38.840 So shit is getting crazy. 0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:40.719 So now we're at the hospital and we're with the 0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:43.319 dude who's and he's been shot in the ass, and 0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:45.960 Stable's trying to sort of finesse the surfer doc into 0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:48.920 giving away this guy's DNA, like how about we just 0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:51.200 take a swab, right, And the guy's like, yeah, cool, 0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:54.960 as soon as I see a warrant and you know, he's. 0:56:54.719 --> 0:56:57.320 Like worth a shot. So they are kind of trying 0:56:57.320 --> 0:56:58.520 to show how police. 0:56:58.280 --> 0:57:00.120 Do go around the rules a lot of the time 0:57:00.160 --> 0:57:02.480 if they can, but there's some checks and balances, like 0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:05.279 Surfer Doc who don't let them. So they find out 0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:07.440 that this the purp that has been shot, does not 0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:09.480 have a tattoo, which, by the way, they've cleaned up 0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:12.080 and found out it's of a spider. So they examined 0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:14.480 the man's personal effects. They find a license. His name 0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:17.800 is Larry Luft. Plus they find something interesting on his phone. 0:57:18.440 --> 0:57:22.080 Next scene, we're talking to Babs Duffy like uh, look, 0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:24.000 showing her the phone and going looks like you knew 0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:27.080 the perpetrator. She goes, you think this guy is my boyfriend. 0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:30.640 She's like, Olivia, remember last night I tried to make 0:57:30.680 --> 0:57:33.480 out with you. I'm gay, And they're like so. Then 0:57:33.480 --> 0:57:35.360 one of them goes for a man hating lesbian. You 0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:38.320 seem awfully cuddly with Larry, and then Benson flashes a 0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:42.000 pick of Babs and Larry smooching on the phone, and 0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:43.400 Babs is like, fuck. 0:57:43.280 --> 0:57:48.800 What a twist, What a twist? Bab's a glace, yes. 0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:52.880 Babs is like, fuck, all right, listen, I still totally 0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:56.120 love women. Larry is my secret male lover and I 0:57:56.240 --> 0:57:58.600 just developed feelings for him. He came to one of 0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:01.000 our Lesbie Strong meetings and I liked that he was 0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:04.160 an ally I guess and I you know, I it's 0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:05.760 wild that she would even let herself like have a 0:58:05.800 --> 0:58:07.840 conversation with a man, but she ended up, you know, 0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:11.040 getting feelings for him. Stabler's like, I think this whole 0:58:11.120 --> 0:58:13.600 Lesbie Strong thing is a shtick to cover for you 0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:16.440 being in the reverse closet. And She's like, no, you 0:58:16.440 --> 0:58:18.880 cannot let my girls find out about that this. They 0:58:18.880 --> 0:58:20.920 would see it as a betrayal. And it's like, baby, 0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:24.120 you're by nothing to freak out about. And Stabler's like, oh, 0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:26.200 you're gonna come out in a big way. It's like 0:58:26.360 --> 0:58:29.600 fine being by, but when your whole thing is lesbian 0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:35.040 and yeah, and men are ridiculous and yeah. So at 0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:37.640 what feels like the ninth Lesbian rally in this episode, 0:58:37.760 --> 0:58:39.480 Rosemary is addressing the crowd. 0:58:39.920 --> 0:58:41.400 These lesbians have jobs. 0:58:41.560 --> 0:58:44.720 Geez, Seriously, there's so much poster making going on at 0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:49.080 all times. They have so many different rallies, posters and flyers, 0:58:49.120 --> 0:58:53.240 et cetera. Rosemary's addressing the crowd live is scanning and 0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:55.920 looking for a guy with a spider hand tattoo. Babbs 0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:58.280 addresses the crowd now and says, listen, I have to 0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:00.280 tell you guys something. The man they caught is not 0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:03.560 the rapist. She explains, he's someone who I know, and 0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:06.400 I'm in a relationship with this man. So she comes 0:59:06.440 --> 0:59:09.560 out as bisexual. Rosemary is like, looks like she's seen 0:59:09.600 --> 0:59:11.880 a ghost. She's like, is this a joke? She feels 0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:16.200 extremely betrayed, just as Babs predicted she would. The crowd 0:59:16.240 --> 0:59:18.840 starts to turn on her. One lady yells, we still 0:59:18.880 --> 0:59:22.800 love you, Babs. You just I watched with the captions on, 0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:24.800 so you can I really notice it. But I was like, 0:59:24.960 --> 0:59:27.680 One lady goes, not that big of a deal. What's 0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:29.000 the little man? Sometimes? 0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:29.240 You know? 0:59:29.720 --> 0:59:33.040 She promises to now fight for everyone, gay men, trans people, 0:59:33.080 --> 0:59:35.880 by people, and then as she's you know, trying to 0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:39.560 get the crowd to not absolutely kill her, Elliott spots 0:59:39.560 --> 0:59:42.320 the man with a spider tattoo and it's done. 0:59:42.400 --> 0:59:42.680 Done. 0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:46.560 The print shop guy the right. Babs was right, believe 0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:47.840 women right. 0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:48.800 She was right. 0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:51.360 It wasn't a typo, not a fuck up, another flyer 0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:52.080 the type. 0:59:52.080 --> 0:59:53.160 I wasn't hate crime. 0:59:53.800 --> 0:59:56.560 This motherfucker was giving himself away with his typos. 0:59:56.720 --> 0:59:57.640 They go after. 0:59:57.520 --> 1:00:03.000 Him, being like just like an angry fly I maker. Seriously, 1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:07.440 they go after him. He tries to run, they arrest 1:00:07.520 --> 1:00:10.400 him obviously. So now he's in the precinct to This 1:00:10.440 --> 1:00:13.480 guy's name is Ronnie Watley. He's got He's like, I 1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:17.000 got nothing against lesbians. He's acting very innocent. Cabot and 1:00:17.000 --> 1:00:20.280 Olivia are watching this interrogation and Stabler's trying to get 1:00:20.280 --> 1:00:22.840 it out of him, and Cabot's like, why isn't he 1:00:22.960 --> 1:00:24.880 nailing this guy? And Lives like give him a second, 1:00:24.920 --> 1:00:27.880 and Cabot's like, look, there's no DNA, there's no witnesses. 1:00:27.920 --> 1:00:29.920 I really need this guy like barfing his confession all 1:00:29.960 --> 1:00:32.040 over Stabler's shoes and I'm not getting that right now, 1:00:32.240 --> 1:00:34.120 and then Lives like, ooh, I got an idea that 1:00:34.120 --> 1:00:34.920 could really. 1:00:35.320 --> 1:00:36.160 Move things along. 1:00:36.640 --> 1:00:40.240 So Olivia walks into the room like fucking Sandy from 1:00:40.320 --> 1:00:44.640 Grease leather Jacket, basically smoking a cigarette, going what's up stead, 1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:48.800 and she's in like full lesbian cosplay, like swagger in 1:00:48.840 --> 1:00:52.720 her step. She and Elliott immediately go into their sexually 1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:54.960 charged hate play that they love to do, where he's like, 1:00:55.160 --> 1:00:56.080 what do you get out of here? 1:00:56.080 --> 1:00:58.200 And she's like, no, come on, let me let me 1:00:58.240 --> 1:00:59.080 have a shot at the guy. 1:00:59.120 --> 1:01:01.440 And she's like and he goes, this is too personal 1:01:01.480 --> 1:01:04.040 for you, and she goes, big, girls, don't cry, come on, 1:01:04.120 --> 1:01:07.120 let me have him. So then Stabler leaves, Benson takes 1:01:07.120 --> 1:01:09.800 off her leather jacket throws it on the table. You know, 1:01:09.840 --> 1:01:15.160 it's like very hilarious, and then Live starts antagonizing Ronnie going, oh, 1:01:15.240 --> 1:01:17.600 you just like never get any action because you're kind 1:01:17.600 --> 1:01:20.120 of ugly and you have a lame fucking job. And 1:01:20.160 --> 1:01:22.720 she's just like baiting him about how lesbians are out 1:01:22.720 --> 1:01:25.720 there having all the fun, being hot, chilling at the 1:01:25.760 --> 1:01:28.560 kitty corner, having a blast, and they're all having fun 1:01:28.600 --> 1:01:31.200 around him and he's not having any fun. And Benson 1:01:31.200 --> 1:01:33.360 does like everything she can to play into this guy's 1:01:33.360 --> 1:01:35.840 hostility towards lesbian. She's like, I bet you want to 1:01:35.880 --> 1:01:37.880 grab me and bend me over and make me a 1:01:37.920 --> 1:01:38.640 real woman with. 1:01:38.600 --> 1:01:40.240 What's between your legs, it's really weld. 1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:43.080 She's like, she's like very sexually coming on to him 1:01:43.160 --> 1:01:46.520 kind of in a way, and then he finally cracks 1:01:46.600 --> 1:01:49.520 and pushes her hand onto his Dick going and you 1:01:49.720 --> 1:01:51.400 love it just like those other two did. 1:01:51.560 --> 1:01:52.640 Every moment of it. 1:01:52.760 --> 1:01:56.680 Boom, there's a confession and she goes goodbye, Ronnie, and 1:01:56.720 --> 1:01:58.760 then he calls her a bitch a bunch of times 1:01:58.760 --> 1:02:00.720 as she just like sashe is out of the room, 1:02:00.800 --> 1:02:03.680 and it's kind of one of the greatest Olivia Benson scenes, 1:02:03.680 --> 1:02:06.000 I would say of all time. So then Babs enters 1:02:06.040 --> 1:02:08.520 the squad room happy for once, and she's like, you 1:02:08.600 --> 1:02:11.400 got him, and Stabler goes, she got him with one 1:02:11.440 --> 1:02:13.360 hell of a performance, I think. 1:02:13.760 --> 1:02:16.520 So he's still like, I don't know, you might be gay. 1:02:16.720 --> 1:02:19.480 Benson like, he's still like, I guess that was a performance, 1:02:19.480 --> 1:02:22.520 but maybe you love women. And I know you know 1:02:23.760 --> 1:02:26.520 she's a lesbian icon Benson. So it's I think it's 1:02:26.520 --> 1:02:28.640 never too late. We're about to enter season twenty six. 1:02:28.720 --> 1:02:31.720 Make it happen. Benson asks if the lesbians are still 1:02:31.760 --> 1:02:34.120 furious with Babs, and she goes, well, about a tenth 1:02:34.160 --> 1:02:36.320 of them are still cool with me, but Lesbie Strong 1:02:36.360 --> 1:02:38.520 will be back. I'm opening it up to everyone so 1:02:38.560 --> 1:02:43.560 it can be a real LGBTQIA organization, and then Benson goes, well, 1:02:43.600 --> 1:02:45.760 a is for ally, so you can count us in 1:02:45.960 --> 1:02:49.000 and I think probably a lot of LGBBQ people are like, no, 1:02:49.040 --> 1:02:49.360 it's not. 1:02:49.560 --> 1:02:50.600 It's very sexual. 1:02:52.160 --> 1:02:55.920 But Larry unfortunately is no longer an ally and getting 1:02:55.920 --> 1:02:58.400 shot in the ass made him rethink his commitment to Babs, 1:02:58.400 --> 1:03:02.120 so they are no longer an item. And Babs also, 1:03:02.200 --> 1:03:04.760 why are you She couldn't send him a text that's like, hey, 1:03:04.760 --> 1:03:06.600 by the way, there's cops on my door, don't try 1:03:06.640 --> 1:03:10.400 to sneak up my fire escape or whatever. So Babs 1:03:10.400 --> 1:03:13.160 thanks Olivia for making her come clean about who she 1:03:13.240 --> 1:03:13.800 really is. 1:03:14.240 --> 1:03:16.200 She always apologies. 1:03:16.400 --> 1:03:19.680 She also apologizes for the awkward lunge and says my 1:03:19.800 --> 1:03:23.520 gadar must have been off lol, but also tells Benson 1:03:23.560 --> 1:03:26.400 you are incredibly hot and it's like, duh, the show 1:03:26.480 --> 1:03:29.160 is kind of built around that concept, and Benson is like, 1:03:29.880 --> 1:03:32.400 Benson's like, no problem, Babs, We'll see you around and 1:03:32.440 --> 1:03:35.120 Stabler cracks every time we turn on the TV. And 1:03:35.160 --> 1:03:37.720 Babs is like, okay, I guess I owe your huge 1:03:37.760 --> 1:03:40.720 ass and apology as well. I was pretty bitchy to you, 1:03:40.800 --> 1:03:43.120 she says, and he goes right back at you, and 1:03:43.160 --> 1:03:46.440 then she goes Stabler one more thing, Grabs him and 1:03:46.520 --> 1:03:49.200 gives him a long smooch that he does not pull 1:03:49.280 --> 1:03:52.000 away from, by the way, at all. They have more 1:03:52.040 --> 1:03:54.880 than a peck, like a couple of seconds long kiss, 1:03:55.200 --> 1:03:57.600 and then she goes call me sometime and walks out, 1:03:57.840 --> 1:03:59.760 and I admit, I am laughing. I admit that this 1:03:59.840 --> 1:04:02.600 is reverse sexism because if obviously a purp did this 1:04:02.640 --> 1:04:05.160 to Olivia Benson, I would be not a purpose. 1:04:04.760 --> 1:04:07.200 Well and not reverse because she did do it to 1:04:07.200 --> 1:04:08.000 Olivia Benson. 1:04:08.480 --> 1:04:11.440 She tried it on Olivia Benson. Yes, that's true, she tried. 1:04:11.640 --> 1:04:14.040 She did it for both of them, yes, but I 1:04:14.080 --> 1:04:16.440 would say with Olivia she thought it was more of 1:04:16.480 --> 1:04:19.200 a she was actually hitting on her, And with Stabler, 1:04:19.240 --> 1:04:20.960 I think she is doing it to a nerve him, 1:04:21.040 --> 1:04:23.640 like she is doing it to piss him off. So like, 1:04:23.720 --> 1:04:26.160 you know, I wouldn't want like some asshole to do 1:04:26.200 --> 1:04:28.120 that to Benson, but I am laughing that it's happening 1:04:28.120 --> 1:04:30.959 to Stabler. And then as she walks out of the room, 1:04:31.160 --> 1:04:35.000 the camera has Benson just like armed cross like hell yeah, 1:04:35.160 --> 1:04:38.120 nod like and a huge smile and like there goes 1:04:38.160 --> 1:04:40.120 my hero by the foo fighter starts playing in my 1:04:40.160 --> 1:04:43.560 mind and bab Duffy, what an icon. She got to 1:04:43.640 --> 1:04:46.160 kiss Stabler and almost kiss Benson. She got to lunch 1:04:46.200 --> 1:04:47.840 at Benson and kiss Stabler. 1:04:48.000 --> 1:04:53.080 So amazing, say, the funniest performance on SVU, Like because 1:04:53.080 --> 1:04:57.040 even the comics that go on the show, it's serious performances. Yeah, 1:04:57.200 --> 1:05:00.320 serious things didn't happen here, but it was the last 1:05:00.360 --> 1:05:01.240 things happened. 1:05:01.280 --> 1:05:03.800 And I do think she is good in the dramatic 1:05:03.880 --> 1:05:06.440 parts where like she's scared, or like she finds out 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:08.920 that the rapist has a message short. It was very 1:05:09.000 --> 1:05:13.000 funny too, but in a different in a different way, yeah, yeah, 1:05:13.080 --> 1:05:15.520 yeah yeah. Or we just had Nicol Sullivant and we 1:05:15.600 --> 1:05:17.120 talked to her about how funny she like she was 1:05:17.200 --> 1:05:19.560 still bringing humor to the character, whereas I feel like 1:05:19.960 --> 1:05:24.000 Babs has a lot of one liners. But we also 1:05:24.080 --> 1:05:26.280 found out that this role was essentially created for her, 1:05:26.320 --> 1:05:28.240 which we'll get more into later or I don't know 1:05:28.280 --> 1:05:29.280 if we talk about it now. 1:05:31.200 --> 1:05:33.080 I'll get to the crimes. I'll get to the crimes. 1:05:33.320 --> 1:05:34.360 That's that's what we're here for. 1:05:41.560 --> 1:05:44.800 I know there's people that only listen to our podcasts 1:05:44.840 --> 1:05:46.760 and don't watch the show, but like I would watch 1:05:46.760 --> 1:05:50.720 the Cathy Griffin episode. Yeah, PC because that little goth 1:05:50.840 --> 1:05:53.800 girl in the beginning, which like the sex is really 1:05:53.880 --> 1:05:57.200 good and she's amazing too, like they're all like very 1:05:57.320 --> 1:06:00.600 very good. This is one that if you don't want 1:06:00.680 --> 1:06:03.840 the girl, you know, obviously there's a murder and so 1:06:04.320 --> 1:06:06.160 it's just a little less graphic then. 1:06:06.400 --> 1:06:06.600 Yeah. 1:06:07.280 --> 1:06:12.720 Considering our last episode, dick Wolf even said to Nicole Sullivan, so. 1:06:15.040 --> 1:06:17.520 Okay, and that guy should go down by the way 1:06:17.800 --> 1:06:21.640 for murder because he left her bleeding there, like not 1:06:21.720 --> 1:06:23.680 even an anonymous phone call to nine one one to 1:06:23.760 --> 1:06:25.920 help her, like she was just bleeding, Like he didn't 1:06:25.960 --> 1:06:28.600 mean to kill her, but she just left this poor 1:06:28.640 --> 1:06:30.880 woman like bleeding out and she has a clotting disorder. 1:06:31.400 --> 1:06:33.680 Yeah, he will be charged with murder maybe like second 1:06:33.760 --> 1:06:37.240 degree or something, you know, but I don't think a manslaughter. 1:06:37.440 --> 1:06:39.280 It's like you did want to know her. 1:06:39.400 --> 1:06:41.800 When you kill somebody in the commission of another crime, yeah, 1:06:41.840 --> 1:06:42.960 it's pretty bad. 1:06:43.640 --> 1:06:48.760 Yeah, well all right, now it's time so mean some crimes. 1:06:48.840 --> 1:06:49.120 Baby. 1:06:49.560 --> 1:06:50.320 Well, this isn't crime. 1:06:50.480 --> 1:06:55.880 This is about the Lesbian Avengers feminist organization. So I'll 1:06:56.000 --> 1:06:58.240 just give a quick little overview before I get to 1:06:59.080 --> 1:07:01.600 a little bit of a c the crime, which is 1:07:02.080 --> 1:07:05.280 more about the satanic of it all than Okay, you know, 1:07:05.600 --> 1:07:07.760 a flyer guy flying off the handle. 1:07:08.160 --> 1:07:14.240 So a bigoted man who makes posters, okay. 1:07:14.400 --> 1:07:18.160 So the Lesbian Avengers began in New York City duh, 1:07:18.800 --> 1:07:21.760 nineteen ninety two, and they were as like a direct 1:07:21.800 --> 1:07:25.480 action group focused on issues vital to lesbian survival and visibility. 1:07:26.040 --> 1:07:29.400 The founders were six longtime lesbian activists who were involved 1:07:29.400 --> 1:07:33.760 in a variety of different LGBT plus groups. Anna Simo, 1:07:34.320 --> 1:07:39.840 Sarah Schulman, Maxine Wolf and Christine Dudeski, Marie Honan and 1:07:40.000 --> 1:07:44.040 Anne McGuire. So those are the fabulous six. And Anna 1:07:44.160 --> 1:07:47.520 Simo was frustrated at the lesbian invisibility and got her 1:07:47.600 --> 1:07:50.800 girls together to not just you know, talk about stuff, 1:07:50.920 --> 1:07:54.840 but focus on high impact street activism. Their first action 1:07:55.400 --> 1:07:58.040 was on September ninth, nineteen ninety two in Queens where 1:07:58.120 --> 1:07:59.919 some right wing nuts were trying to suppress a multi 1:08:00.120 --> 1:08:04.400 cultural like children Rainbow curriculum thing for kids, and so 1:08:04.520 --> 1:08:07.280 they had a protest with the Board of Education. And 1:08:07.440 --> 1:08:10.080 just like a lot of protests, their biggest thing that 1:08:10.400 --> 1:08:13.600 has like the longestwithstanding action would be the Dyke March 1:08:13.840 --> 1:08:15.960 and that was created on the eve of the Gay 1:08:16.040 --> 1:08:19.000 March on Washington in nineteen ninety three, and it got 1:08:19.000 --> 1:08:22.000 together twenty thousand lesbians and it's always the like night 1:08:22.080 --> 1:08:25.320 before the Gay Parade is the Dick March, and so 1:08:25.439 --> 1:08:30.679 that's like their biggest legacy. The Avengers developed a civil 1:08:30.760 --> 1:08:34.000 rights or organizing project that was rooted in grassroots activism 1:08:34.520 --> 1:08:37.439 that not only fought homophobic initiatives, but worked to train 1:08:37.520 --> 1:08:40.560 activists for the long term, and they spread to a 1:08:40.680 --> 1:08:43.400 national level. So each chapter set up their own priorities. 1:08:43.439 --> 1:08:47.680 So some worked, you know with like anti gay initiatives, 1:08:47.800 --> 1:08:51.400 some against the religious ray and others like the KKK 1:08:51.760 --> 1:08:54.800 and stuff like that depends what impacted their community the most. 1:08:55.479 --> 1:08:58.439 Above all, they're like, the big thing is action that 1:08:58.520 --> 1:09:02.519 reflected their commitment to challengeing homophobic stereotypes and you know 1:09:02.600 --> 1:09:05.160 the role the media played in all those stereotypes. They 1:09:05.200 --> 1:09:07.600 did a lot of fire eating and it became a 1:09:07.720 --> 1:09:12.400 symbol for lesbian Avengers. It started because they wanted to 1:09:12.439 --> 1:09:14.960 bring attention to a tragedy that happened to Hattie may 1:09:15.080 --> 1:09:18.120 Cohens and Brian Mock, who in nineteen ninety one were 1:09:18.160 --> 1:09:21.439 burned to death in Salem, Oregon after amolotov cocktail was 1:09:21.520 --> 1:09:25.880 tossed into their apartment that they shared, and so that 1:09:26.479 --> 1:09:27.200 made people. 1:09:28.720 --> 1:09:32.360 Protest and fiery, and it became kind of a symbol. 1:09:32.920 --> 1:09:34.800 And there's a documentary if you want to know more, 1:09:35.000 --> 1:09:38.960 called The Lesbian Avengers Eat Fire Too, made in nineteen 1:09:39.040 --> 1:09:40.880 ninety three, so it was about the first year of 1:09:41.200 --> 1:09:47.040 it coming together. So yeah, cool, cool, ahead of its time. 1:09:47.360 --> 1:09:53.000 Group of people that wanted to positively impact lesbians and 1:09:53.080 --> 1:09:54.720 society as a whole. And I think that's what the 1:09:54.720 --> 1:09:59.120 Apple aggressives were based on. And then this next case 1:09:59.479 --> 1:10:03.639 is the case Elise Paler and the related lawsuits against 1:10:03.880 --> 1:10:07.679 the metal band Slayer. So this is more about the devil, 1:10:08.360 --> 1:10:11.400 like the Red Herring, it's about what I'm not just 1:10:11.439 --> 1:10:12.200 talking about the devil. 1:10:12.640 --> 1:10:13.800 This is the red Herring. 1:10:14.360 --> 1:10:16.800 So Elise was a young girl who was murdered in 1:10:16.880 --> 1:10:20.240 a quote sacrifice to the devil, and then her parents 1:10:20.280 --> 1:10:23.679 tried suing the band's Slayer for their contribution to her death. 1:10:23.760 --> 1:10:27.800 Oh my god, I know, but grieving does things to people. Yeah, 1:10:27.800 --> 1:10:30.559 I'm kind of okay with it. David and Lisa Anne 1:10:30.640 --> 1:10:33.880 raised their daughter in a royo Grande, California, and she 1:10:33.960 --> 1:10:37.160 attended a Royo Grande High School. She was described as 1:10:37.200 --> 1:10:40.920 a wonderful person who was loving, vibrant, enthusiastic, encouraging, and gentle. 1:10:41.400 --> 1:10:44.160 On July twenty second, nineteen ninety five, unfortunately, she was 1:10:44.240 --> 1:10:47.840 reported missing at fifteen years old. For eight months, the 1:10:47.960 --> 1:10:50.280 case was cold, nobody could find a trace of where 1:10:50.360 --> 1:10:53.280 she had gone. There was nothing. And then a confession. 1:10:53.960 --> 1:10:56.920 So Royce Casey was a seventeen year old and he 1:10:57.040 --> 1:11:00.960 confessed this crime to a clergy person. The clergy person 1:11:01.320 --> 1:11:05.000 and Casey then contacted law enforcement, and Casey described the 1:11:05.080 --> 1:11:08.200 crime to detectives and led them to Elice Poller's body. 1:11:08.560 --> 1:11:12.320 So, wow, this priest or something must have like or 1:11:12.400 --> 1:11:15.640 none or whoever it was, must have convinced him to 1:11:15.720 --> 1:11:17.559 come forward, right, yeah? 1:11:17.640 --> 1:11:20.759 Or did it? I found conflicting things in the same paper. Actually, 1:11:20.880 --> 1:11:23.479 but some said the clergyman went to the cops, and 1:11:23.520 --> 1:11:26.240 then multiple sources said that the boy did on his own. 1:11:26.840 --> 1:11:30.120 So I just said that, you know, together they went, 1:11:30.920 --> 1:11:32.000 you know what I mean? Yeah? 1:11:32.160 --> 1:11:36.040 Yeah, interesting, Yeah, I'm not sure about their enter car. 1:11:36.200 --> 1:11:38.240 Usually one of them just calls Elliott stable or because 1:11:38.240 --> 1:11:42.280 they know him. Personally and then he does some investigating. Yeah, 1:11:42.479 --> 1:11:47.160 so I'm not really sure how it like exactly went down. 1:11:47.800 --> 1:11:50.120 But he also gave up the other two teenagers who 1:11:50.160 --> 1:11:52.559 committed the crime with him, and that was sixteen year 1:11:52.600 --> 1:11:57.000 old Jacob Deli Shmat and fifteen year old Joseph Farrella Casey. 1:11:57.160 --> 1:12:00.880 Not only like was the guilt on him, like he 1:12:01.160 --> 1:12:04.840 just you know, edgar Allan Poe vibes, like could not 1:12:05.040 --> 1:12:07.960 live with himself. He was also scared that his two 1:12:07.960 --> 1:12:11.040 friends might kill him and was not really chill with 1:12:11.120 --> 1:12:13.400 the friends. So yeah, he was terrified that they would 1:12:13.400 --> 1:12:15.560 shut him up. He was feeling bad about what he 1:12:15.640 --> 1:12:19.000 did because it's the worst thing ever, and so I'm 1:12:19.040 --> 1:12:21.320 glad he did confess. He then led police to the 1:12:21.400 --> 1:12:24.600 partially mummified remains of a Lease only a quarter of 1:12:24.640 --> 1:12:28.719 a mile from her home. I'm sorry for eight months 1:12:29.080 --> 1:12:33.840 the police could not find this body a quarter of 1:12:33.920 --> 1:12:36.519 a mile. I mean, same with like Casey Anthony, Like 1:12:36.640 --> 1:12:38.960 Kaylee Anthony was found so close to their home. Same 1:12:39.000 --> 1:12:41.840 with Chandra Levy. She was found so close to where 1:12:41.880 --> 1:12:44.680 she went missing, like not not half a mile. I 1:12:44.720 --> 1:12:47.880 don't think you know, like these people, like it's so crazy. 1:12:48.000 --> 1:12:50.160 It's like, are the dogs not working? 1:12:50.240 --> 1:12:53.600 I don't know. It's so it's eight months. It's like, 1:12:53.720 --> 1:12:54.599 what they fuck? 1:12:56.439 --> 1:12:59.240 So the boys were arrested in charge with murder, gang involvement, 1:12:59.400 --> 1:13:03.479 raped towards sure and conspiracy. According to Casey. He and 1:13:03.600 --> 1:13:06.760 this is according to him and his testimony. So he 1:13:07.120 --> 1:13:10.680 made a plan with Fiilla and Delishmid and they all 1:13:10.760 --> 1:13:12.760 claim that they did it as a sacrifice to the 1:13:12.880 --> 1:13:16.520 devil to give their newly formed metal band the craziness 1:13:16.640 --> 1:13:17.080 to make. 1:13:16.960 --> 1:13:19.680 It big, the craziness. 1:13:20.320 --> 1:13:24.120 Furilla denied Casey's version of events, but admitted to being 1:13:24.200 --> 1:13:27.200 the first to stab her. And he's quoted by The Tribune, 1:13:27.320 --> 1:13:29.800 I wish it never happened. Since it's happened, I always 1:13:29.840 --> 1:13:31.840 wish that God can bring her back to life. I 1:13:31.920 --> 1:13:33.760 can imagine how her family must feel. 1:13:34.000 --> 1:13:34.160 Well. 1:13:34.920 --> 1:13:38.720 I wish she thought of that before. Doug odom from 1:13:38.800 --> 1:13:42.559 the DA's office. He's the chief investigator, he said. When 1:13:42.600 --> 1:13:44.960 he asked Casey why they committed the murder, he said 1:13:45.000 --> 1:13:47.679 in quotes, it was to receive power from the devil 1:13:47.760 --> 1:13:51.000 to help them play guitar better. By making this perfect 1:13:51.040 --> 1:13:54.840 sacacrifice to the devil, they would gain more craziness or 1:13:55.000 --> 1:13:58.000 nuts that would make them play harder, play faster, and 1:13:58.120 --> 1:14:00.800 by making this perfect sacrifice to the devil, it might 1:14:00.920 --> 1:14:04.000 help them go professional. Like you guys couldn't have just 1:14:04.080 --> 1:14:08.080 tried monster energy drink like come on or practice? 1:14:08.560 --> 1:14:10.760 Yeah, they picked you know. 1:14:11.280 --> 1:14:13.439 There was I don't know if we talked about this, 1:14:13.479 --> 1:14:16.240 but someone was talking about Wayne Gretzky and how some 1:14:16.439 --> 1:14:18.200 dad went up to him once was like, hey, can 1:14:18.280 --> 1:14:20.439 you give my son advice like how to practice and 1:14:20.479 --> 1:14:22.120 blah blah and do this and that my son's being 1:14:22.160 --> 1:14:24.840 going to like give advice Wayne grett And then he 1:14:24.960 --> 1:14:27.080 gave some bullshit advice and then when the kid walked away, 1:14:27.120 --> 1:14:29.519 Wayne Greats, he was like, wa. Wayne Gretzky was like, 1:14:29.760 --> 1:14:31.000 when I was a kid, you'd have to pull me 1:14:31.080 --> 1:14:33.720 off the ice, you would. You would have to like, yeah, 1:14:34.479 --> 1:14:36.800 grab me and take me away? Like what are you 1:14:36.960 --> 1:14:39.519 talking about? That's how I feel when people ask advice 1:14:39.600 --> 1:14:41.960 on how to do comedy. I'm like, I don't know 1:14:42.320 --> 1:14:44.040 if you don't want it bad enough to find a 1:14:44.240 --> 1:14:44.840 figure it out? 1:14:44.960 --> 1:14:46.360 Like is this for you? 1:14:47.240 --> 1:14:47.400 Right? 1:14:47.880 --> 1:14:50.240 But I just think about this, like they really wanted 1:14:50.280 --> 1:14:52.519 to be musicians, but they didn't want to practice and 1:14:52.560 --> 1:14:53.160 put in the work. 1:14:53.800 --> 1:14:55.360 I hate them. Okay. 1:14:55.960 --> 1:14:58.240 They picked a Lease because she was blonde haired and 1:14:58.280 --> 1:15:01.080 blue eyed virgin, and they thought those characteristics would make 1:15:01.120 --> 1:15:04.040 her the ultimate sin against God, which doesn't make sense 1:15:04.120 --> 1:15:06.599 to me, but neither does anything else that they thought. 1:15:07.720 --> 1:15:08.320 You know, I don't know. 1:15:08.640 --> 1:15:11.680 Yeah, And again this is according to Casey's confession to 1:15:11.720 --> 1:15:14.320 the police, that they lured her over there to smoke 1:15:14.400 --> 1:15:19.320 some weed to Nipomo Mesa eucalyptus grove, and then Dela 1:15:19.360 --> 1:15:21.960 Schmidt attacked Elise from behind with a belt wrapped around 1:15:21.960 --> 1:15:24.960 her neck and he began to strangle her while Faiella 1:15:25.080 --> 1:15:27.320 began stabbing her in the neck with a hunting knife. 1:15:27.400 --> 1:15:29.240 This is really very graphic and terrible and. 1:15:29.280 --> 1:15:32.800 It's really sad, and she's so young, and like, oh, 1:15:33.600 --> 1:15:35.920 the other boys got into the stabbing as well, and 1:15:36.000 --> 1:15:38.720 then it didn't end there. So while she was bleeding out, 1:15:38.840 --> 1:15:40.840 the three of them beat and kicked her body as 1:15:40.920 --> 1:15:42.600 she prayed to God for help and called out to 1:15:42.720 --> 1:15:45.840 her mother like so many victims do. And then they 1:15:45.960 --> 1:15:48.479 just watched her slowly bleed to death from the twelve 1:15:48.520 --> 1:15:49.719 to fifteen stab wounds. 1:15:50.160 --> 1:15:51.680 And then, according to I know. 1:15:51.960 --> 1:15:54.719 And then, according to court records from the San Louis 1:15:54.920 --> 1:15:58.439 Obispo Tribune, it's called the Tribune, and it's like, honey, 1:15:58.600 --> 1:16:01.720 there are other tribunes, and just do that. Can you 1:16:01.760 --> 1:16:03.760 give it a little flare? I have to fucking Saint 1:16:03.800 --> 1:16:09.240 Louis Obyspo the Tribune. As Paler moaned on the ground, 1:16:09.400 --> 1:16:11.439 Casey stomped on the back of her neck. I mean, 1:16:11.479 --> 1:16:14.360 these are like horrific people. And he and she was 1:16:14.400 --> 1:16:19.000 dead within fifteen to twenty minutes, which sounds excruciatingly long, 1:16:19.800 --> 1:16:23.840 like with the torture, and that it was just a slow, 1:16:24.200 --> 1:16:27.880 painful situation and unfortunately the torture did not end when 1:16:27.960 --> 1:16:31.320 she died though, like yeah, the police were able to 1:16:31.400 --> 1:16:33.519 determine she was raped by one of them after she 1:16:33.720 --> 1:16:36.479 was dead. And then fairy Ella's mother told police that 1:16:36.560 --> 1:16:39.519 her son told her that it was the other two 1:16:39.720 --> 1:16:42.080 that raped her. But I don't know if you would 1:16:42.120 --> 1:16:46.320 like tell your mom that you raped somebody, right, He 1:16:46.439 --> 1:16:48.280 was like, I just watched they raped, and it's like, 1:16:48.320 --> 1:16:49.320 I'm sure you raped too. 1:16:50.320 --> 1:16:51.840 Means nothing to me, yeah, yeah. 1:16:53.160 --> 1:16:55.839 Then appear from school told the cops that del Schmidt 1:16:56.400 --> 1:16:58.880 was actually like bragging about it and said that he 1:16:59.000 --> 1:17:03.839 returned back to the to do necrophilia again. And according 1:17:04.040 --> 1:17:06.400 I know, and according to court document, said that Delischmidt 1:17:06.400 --> 1:17:08.880 started to pull off Paler's pants when it was clear 1:17:09.040 --> 1:17:12.080 she was dead, noting that the boys had already chatted 1:17:12.080 --> 1:17:13.960 about having sex with her corpse like that was part 1:17:14.040 --> 1:17:17.759 of the Plano Casey even though he is a monster, 1:17:17.880 --> 1:17:19.880 did tell them that they should leave instead of raping 1:17:19.960 --> 1:17:23.160 the corpse. So I guess let's give him a medal 1:17:23.240 --> 1:17:26.080 of the best of the three murderers. They buried her 1:17:26.080 --> 1:17:29.680 in a shallow grave and left the area. That's another thing. 1:17:29.800 --> 1:17:31.559 So it's like close to her house in a shallow 1:17:31.640 --> 1:17:37.400 grave like no o, okay? And then so directly after 1:17:37.520 --> 1:17:40.679 Lisa's murder, her parents filed a lawsuit against the band Slayer. 1:17:41.000 --> 1:17:44.920 They alleged that their songs post Mortem and Dead skin 1:17:45.080 --> 1:17:50.000 Mask gave the three killers detained instructions to stalk, rape, torture, murder, 1:17:50.040 --> 1:17:53.560 and commit acts of necrophilia against Elise. The lawsuit was 1:17:53.880 --> 1:17:56.639 filed in nineteen ninety six, but was delayed until after 1:17:56.720 --> 1:17:58.880 the murder trial, which did not until two thousand. 1:17:59.320 --> 1:18:00.280 It was thrown out. 1:18:00.320 --> 1:18:03.200 As you can imagine, the judges quoted by medium dot 1:18:03.280 --> 1:18:05.960 com saying there's not uh, there's not a legal position 1:18:06.439 --> 1:18:09.040 that could be taken that would make Slayer responsible for 1:18:09.120 --> 1:18:11.320 the girl's death. Where do you draw the line. You 1:18:11.400 --> 1:18:13.400 might as well start looking through the library of every 1:18:13.439 --> 1:18:14.280 book on the shelf. 1:18:14.320 --> 1:18:16.759 And it's like spoiler alert. We are as a culture. 1:18:16.960 --> 1:18:18.439 They are not. They are not reading. 1:18:18.960 --> 1:18:21.200 But I wonder if they might be maybe also fired 1:18:21.320 --> 1:18:23.679 file the lawsuit to get more eyes on the crime, 1:18:24.400 --> 1:18:27.120 Like maybe they knew like that it would just bring 1:18:27.200 --> 1:18:29.200 more press to it, and maybe these kids could not 1:18:29.320 --> 1:18:31.439 get away with it. I don't know, because that does 1:18:31.520 --> 1:18:33.599 seem but also, like you said, when people are grieving, 1:18:33.640 --> 1:18:35.519 they do wild things. 1:18:36.040 --> 1:18:39.519 But also that didn't deter The parents were not deterred, 1:18:39.600 --> 1:18:42.680 and the Paler parents filed a second most lawsuit that 1:18:42.840 --> 1:18:46.800 claimed Slayer knowingly distributed harmful materials to miners, and it 1:18:47.040 --> 1:18:50.320 was dismissed again. The teens actually also tried to blame 1:18:50.360 --> 1:18:52.640 their crime on death Metal and that that's where they 1:18:52.720 --> 1:18:54.840 got the idea to sacrifice the virgin as part of 1:18:54.920 --> 1:18:57.600 a devil worshiping ritual. And if no one, if you 1:18:57.680 --> 1:19:00.640 have not seen Jennifer's body, I was suggest watching it. 1:19:02.040 --> 1:19:04.720 If you're into a not real horrific version of what 1:19:04.920 --> 1:19:09.080 is happening here, that would be a fun option for you. 1:19:09.800 --> 1:19:13.160 But the parents did receive justice for their daughter's crime. 1:19:13.280 --> 1:19:16.080 Casey pled no contest to first degree murder and was 1:19:16.160 --> 1:19:18.759 sentenced to life with a minimum of twenty one years 1:19:18.920 --> 1:19:22.400 with an opportunity for parole. Deli Schmidt also pled no 1:19:22.520 --> 1:19:24.920 contest to first degree murder and was sentenced to life, 1:19:24.960 --> 1:19:27.759 but with a minimum of twenty six years possibility of parole, 1:19:28.320 --> 1:19:30.679 and Fiorella reached a plea agreement in which she pled 1:19:30.720 --> 1:19:33.839 guilty to first degree murder in exchange for a sentence 1:19:33.920 --> 1:19:36.519 of life with a minimum of twenty six years. And 1:19:36.720 --> 1:19:39.920 they took rape off the table here because he pled guilty. 1:19:41.160 --> 1:19:41.439 Wow. 1:19:42.000 --> 1:19:45.120 David Palor, Elisa's father, said at the court hearing that 1:19:45.320 --> 1:19:48.599 it's a parent's worse fear and lifetime plan to outlive 1:19:48.640 --> 1:19:52.160 their child. It's even worse knowing she was murdered, tortured, 1:19:52.240 --> 1:19:54.560 and raped as a virgin's sacrifice on the altar of 1:19:54.680 --> 1:19:56.080 Satan so that you can earn. 1:19:55.920 --> 1:19:59.320 A ticket to Hell. I just thought that was poetic. 1:19:59.600 --> 1:19:59.840 Damn. 1:20:00.479 --> 1:20:03.200 There's a photo of Joseph Ferrella looking back at the 1:20:03.439 --> 1:20:06.240 Paler family before walking out of the courtroom March nineteen 1:20:06.280 --> 1:20:10.080 eighty seven. And he looks so young, like babyface, but 1:20:10.240 --> 1:20:12.760 all shackled up and an orange jumpsuit, but also dead 1:20:12.760 --> 1:20:15.160 in the eyes. But it's an intense photo because he 1:20:15.240 --> 1:20:19.439 does just look so fucking young. Yeah, And Casey was 1:20:19.520 --> 1:20:22.320 up for parole in twenty twenty one, and members of 1:20:22.360 --> 1:20:25.240 the Paler family, including Elisa's father, said they actually didn't 1:20:25.240 --> 1:20:28.880 oppose his release since he has expressed remorse over the 1:20:29.000 --> 1:20:32.280 years and did lead the police to her body. The 1:20:32.400 --> 1:20:35.559 family does oppose any type of parole for dal Schmidt 1:20:35.640 --> 1:20:38.960 and Fierrella in prison. This Casey guy, he got his 1:20:39.120 --> 1:20:41.680 ged and working towards a college degree and was on 1:20:41.720 --> 1:20:44.720 all these programs in education, and it's like, yeah, these 1:20:44.720 --> 1:20:46.320 are all things at lease did not get a chance 1:20:46.400 --> 1:20:49.360 to do. And I believe in rehabilitation and being able 1:20:49.400 --> 1:20:54.160 to do things in jail and stuff. But it is like, yeah, cool, 1:20:54.439 --> 1:20:58.640 she didn't get to graduate high school. He was a 1:20:58.720 --> 1:21:01.519 model prisoner, could be hey behavior. But the parole was 1:21:01.560 --> 1:21:05.000 actually denied by Governor Gavin Newsom in July twenty twenty 1:21:05.080 --> 1:21:07.200 one after the DA Dan Dawe wrote a letter to 1:21:07.280 --> 1:21:10.080 new Some being like absolutely not that Casey had never 1:21:10.160 --> 1:21:13.720 adequately explained why he had participated in such a statistic 1:21:13.800 --> 1:21:17.400 and heinous crime. But then the superior court judge overturned 1:21:17.479 --> 1:21:21.040 the decision the following June and granted him parole. So 1:21:21.200 --> 1:21:24.439 June sixth, twenty twenty two, San Luis Obispo County Superior 1:21:24.520 --> 1:21:28.360 Court Judge Craig van Ruyan granted Casey's petition, saying fuck 1:21:28.439 --> 1:21:31.439 you to Newsom, and he was able to reverse it 1:21:31.600 --> 1:21:34.760 using some sort of habeas corpus petition And that's from 1:21:34.880 --> 1:21:39.840 legally blonde, so that's cool. And they said he was 1:21:39.920 --> 1:21:42.120 not the same human being as the child that committed 1:21:42.160 --> 1:21:45.200 the crime twenty seven years ago. But after three years 1:21:45.200 --> 1:21:48.720 of legal proceedings, Governor Gavin Newsom said no, fuck you 1:21:48.880 --> 1:21:52.400 and reverse the parole board's decision for a second time. 1:21:53.280 --> 1:21:56.920 And that was March twenty twenty four. So he's back 1:21:57.000 --> 1:21:58.760 in jail and I don't want him to go. 1:21:59.120 --> 1:22:01.880 He's still at Valley State Prison and chow Chilla and 1:22:02.000 --> 1:22:05.679 knew some in quotes said in this Tribune, mister Casey 1:22:05.800 --> 1:22:09.040 must better understand the internal processes that led him to 1:22:09.120 --> 1:22:11.640 commit the crime and hone the skills he will need 1:22:11.720 --> 1:22:15.120 to manage them beyond the controlled environment of prison. And 1:22:15.240 --> 1:22:17.439 that was in an open letter that was sent to 1:22:17.479 --> 1:22:20.240 the DA's office. He found him that he still he 1:22:20.680 --> 1:22:23.640 knew some basically thinks that he still poses an unreasonable 1:22:23.720 --> 1:22:27.240 danger to society if released. I read all his pleas 1:22:27.280 --> 1:22:29.599 to the parole board and it all reads very well 1:22:29.800 --> 1:22:32.320 like he knows what he's doing. But Ed Kemper was 1:22:32.360 --> 1:22:35.360 able to trick all the psychologists at this at the jail. 1:22:35.479 --> 1:22:38.360 You know, it's like really hard because I believe in growth. 1:22:38.160 --> 1:22:41.120 And change and when you're young and andre or whatever, 1:22:41.320 --> 1:22:44.840 like I unders I believe in that so much, but 1:22:45.800 --> 1:22:47.840 I just don't trust all the stuff. 1:22:48.200 --> 1:22:51.040 He said everything correct, He said everything correct. 1:22:51.200 --> 1:22:52.080 Yeah, but. 1:22:53.840 --> 1:22:57.560 It's hard to it's hard. But his next hearing is 1:22:57.600 --> 1:23:00.960 from March twenty twenty five. And then fear Ella's still 1:23:01.000 --> 1:23:03.840 at the High Desert State Prison and his next hearing 1:23:04.120 --> 1:23:07.000 is June twenty twenty six, and that'll be a parole 1:23:07.880 --> 1:23:08.960 suitability hearing. 1:23:09.600 --> 1:23:10.200 And then. 1:23:12.320 --> 1:23:15.360 And then Dela Schmidt is at the Correctional Training Facility 1:23:15.439 --> 1:23:20.520 in California and his next opportunity for parole is January sixteenth, 1:23:21.680 --> 1:23:24.880 that's my dad and your husband's birthday, So that's in 1:23:25.040 --> 1:23:27.760 twenty twenty five, so that'll be a parole suitability hearing 1:23:27.840 --> 1:23:31.080 as well. So those are two pendings, so in the 1:23:31.160 --> 1:23:34.040 next couple of years they'll be up for parole again, 1:23:34.720 --> 1:23:35.200 all of them. 1:23:36.120 --> 1:23:36.439 Damn. 1:23:38.640 --> 1:23:40.560 It is kind of like it is kind of like, 1:23:40.720 --> 1:23:41.919 yeah they were teens. 1:23:42.200 --> 1:23:46.240 It was they were young, but like it's pretty violent, 1:23:47.800 --> 1:23:51.080 like and going back and raping the corpse. Yeah, yeah, 1:23:52.640 --> 1:23:58.519 just zero zero what is it called, like respect for 1:23:58.600 --> 1:24:03.920 human life? A fitted like oh horrible, horrible, Well, thank 1:24:03.960 --> 1:24:07.120 you for researching that. I'm I'm glad there's not a 1:24:07.240 --> 1:24:09.680 bigoted copy shop owner, but not happy to hear that 1:24:09.760 --> 1:24:13.960 there were psycho teams really listening to. 1:24:14.040 --> 1:24:20.120 Metal and like her, she looks just so young and. 1:24:21.920 --> 1:24:27.080 Yeah yeah, yeah, well you know it wasn't going to 1:24:27.120 --> 1:24:30.280 be our two hundredth episode without a crime. That kind 1:24:30.320 --> 1:24:33.200 of makes you very sad. So let's get to our 1:24:33.880 --> 1:24:45.360 iconic guest. Our guest today. We don't need to even 1:24:45.439 --> 1:24:49.280 introduce her. She is a comedy legend. She's a stand 1:24:49.400 --> 1:24:52.400 up comedian and the star of I would say one 1:24:52.439 --> 1:24:55.200 of the most influential reality shows My Life on the 1:24:55.280 --> 1:24:59.160 d List, but you know her today as lesbian activists 1:24:59.240 --> 1:25:04.840 and recently out bisexual bab Stuffy. Please enjoy our chat 1:25:04.920 --> 1:25:06.839 with the legendary Kathy Griffin. 1:25:07.320 --> 1:25:09.439 Hello, what a dream? 1:25:09.640 --> 1:25:09.840 Right? 1:25:11.200 --> 1:25:12.719 Oh my god, bab. 1:25:14.880 --> 1:25:19.400 A dream so like for our listeners, like, we obviously 1:25:19.439 --> 1:25:21.599 have been wanting to get you for this episode forever, 1:25:21.960 --> 1:25:24.240 never thought it would be possible, so excited to have you. 1:25:24.800 --> 1:25:28.080 And then as we're doing our research, we're like, oh 1:25:28.120 --> 1:25:30.200 my god, there's a full My Life on the d 1:25:30.280 --> 1:25:34.080 List episode which both of us watched. That is a 1:25:34.400 --> 1:25:37.760 behind the scenes of you talking to Neil Bhart, who's 1:25:37.800 --> 1:25:40.400 been on our podcast twice, talking to Noel Bear, him 1:25:40.400 --> 1:25:42.519 saying he wrote this part for you. You you going 1:25:42.600 --> 1:25:45.160 to set with your assistance, you trying to talk to 1:25:45.240 --> 1:25:48.599 the wardrobe people and change your eyes and like running. 1:25:49.000 --> 1:25:51.840 Yeah, Like so was it a lot more serious than 1:25:52.280 --> 1:25:53.800 you really anticipated? 1:25:54.320 --> 1:25:57.200 So it was, to this day the hardest action gig 1:25:57.280 --> 1:25:57.800 I've ever read. 1:25:58.360 --> 1:25:59.280 Wow, I was. 1:26:00.160 --> 1:26:03.960 I was fearful because as any fan of the show, 1:26:04.240 --> 1:26:08.000 you know, they have like these Tony winners on week 1:26:08.080 --> 1:26:12.000 after week and these highly trade My god, you know, 1:26:12.600 --> 1:26:16.400 Carol Burnett won an Emmy and Margaret had done the show, 1:26:17.120 --> 1:26:20.479 Robin Williams had done the show, and so the legacy 1:26:20.680 --> 1:26:25.240 was there. And I still say it was the hardest 1:26:25.360 --> 1:26:30.639 eleven days I ever worked. Wow, curious Gary, I don't 1:26:30.640 --> 1:26:32.880 be hard like they weren't nice to me. I mean, 1:26:33.600 --> 1:26:36.360 it's really freaky intoity and. 1:26:36.400 --> 1:26:39.120 They work fat so how much like on the deal 1:26:39.160 --> 1:26:42.040 List there was a thing where they kept being like cut, cut, cut, 1:26:42.120 --> 1:26:44.360 and the light and all that. Was that editing or 1:26:44.479 --> 1:26:48.040 was it really like oh fuck, I'm like I'm taking 1:26:48.120 --> 1:26:49.080 too long and they're mad at me. 1:26:49.760 --> 1:26:50.479 Oh oh no. 1:26:50.640 --> 1:26:50.680 No. 1:26:50.920 --> 1:26:54.320 First of all, what was happening was my Bravo show, 1:26:55.040 --> 1:26:58.760 very low budget, non uian cable show, My Life on 1:26:58.880 --> 1:27:02.120 the d List had get permission. First of all, I 1:27:02.160 --> 1:27:04.479 remember it was a big deal. My agent had to 1:27:04.600 --> 1:27:09.720 call Dick Wolf, the creator personally and beg bright the 1:27:09.880 --> 1:27:13.880 Ding Ding, beg for it because there's a whole thing 1:27:14.040 --> 1:27:16.920 where we weren't allowed to use it and they don't 1:27:17.080 --> 1:27:20.800 like when other people steal it. And because Bravo was 1:27:20.880 --> 1:27:24.840 owned by NBC Universal, which of course ran and still 1:27:24.920 --> 1:27:28.360 runs Low and Order, and so that was like a 1:27:28.400 --> 1:27:31.080 big victory when they said, okay, you can do your 1:27:31.160 --> 1:27:34.799 little D list spoof and we'll give you the authentic sounds, 1:27:35.520 --> 1:27:40.240 and having to go back and forth between, you know, 1:27:40.520 --> 1:27:43.439 choosing to be funny and when we were doing the 1:27:43.520 --> 1:27:46.479 behind the scenes stuff but then having to really act, 1:27:46.960 --> 1:27:49.760 which I had not done. And I actually don't act 1:27:49.840 --> 1:27:52.560 all that much anymore because I've been doing such so 1:27:52.680 --> 1:27:56.200 much reality stuff and stand up, and so that muscle 1:27:56.280 --> 1:28:00.839 of mine was definitely out of shape. I still cringe 1:28:01.439 --> 1:28:05.519 when I think of how I kept a crew there 1:28:05.720 --> 1:28:09.560 late and kept the cast late, like because I just 1:28:09.720 --> 1:28:12.519 either couldn't get the lines right or I couldn't get 1:28:12.560 --> 1:28:16.360 the way to turn my head. And I remember Dan Flourke, 1:28:16.479 --> 1:28:19.679 the captain, was so lovely and he's a fellow Chicago 1:28:19.840 --> 1:28:22.040 in and he would pull me aside and be like, 1:28:22.240 --> 1:28:25.320 you're doing great. Do you want to run lines? And I, 1:28:25.840 --> 1:28:28.760 you know, knew Marishka for a long time because I 1:28:28.800 --> 1:28:31.200 don't know if you guys know this, but the way 1:28:31.280 --> 1:28:35.559 I met Marishka is I used to teach Imbrov comedy 1:28:36.240 --> 1:28:39.320 at the very famous theater in Los Angeles, the Groundlings 1:28:39.400 --> 1:28:42.240 Theater on Melrose in Los Angeles, which is where I 1:28:42.439 --> 1:28:45.040 was trained. And I was in their company and I 1:28:45.160 --> 1:28:48.040 was doing shows there every weekend as part of an ensemble, 1:28:48.680 --> 1:28:51.960 and that's how I met her, long before Law and Order. 1:28:52.560 --> 1:28:56.200 But here's here's the kicker. In INMBROV classes, there's a 1:28:56.240 --> 1:28:59.560 game that you guys are par familiar called the trust exercise, 1:29:00.000 --> 1:29:02.400 where the class is in a circle and one by 1:29:02.479 --> 1:29:05.160 one the students go in the mid middle, close their 1:29:05.200 --> 1:29:08.599 eyes and trust that when you fall back, the class 1:29:08.680 --> 1:29:12.120 catches you. So we're doing it. Everyone's everyone's learning what 1:29:12.280 --> 1:29:15.640 it is to trust your fellow actor on stage and 1:29:15.960 --> 1:29:19.320 all the reasons that's important. So sir, enough, it comes 1:29:19.360 --> 1:29:22.519 to Murshika and somebody says something and the person like 1:29:22.640 --> 1:29:26.599 turns ahead and she falls on her like t bone, 1:29:27.360 --> 1:29:30.720 and I'm the teacher. And then here's the worst part. 1:29:31.439 --> 1:29:34.439 I start to get the nervous giggles because I'm so 1:29:34.640 --> 1:29:38.599 freaked out that it like take it manifest Felvin away, 1:29:38.640 --> 1:29:41.160 where I kept kept adding to stop I still from 1:29:41.200 --> 1:29:44.760 burst out laughing because I was so mortified that as 1:29:44.840 --> 1:29:49.160 the teacher, this happened on my watch. And God, lover 1:29:49.439 --> 1:29:51.800 she the fact that she even still speaks to me 1:29:52.040 --> 1:29:56.280 is amazing. I cut to all these years later, she's 1:29:56.960 --> 1:30:00.320 you know wildly famous and winning every award as she should. 1:30:00.920 --> 1:30:04.640 And I'm on set and I cannot tell you how 1:30:04.720 --> 1:30:08.560 many times she would say like we'd struggle and I 1:30:08.760 --> 1:30:12.880 was ruining take after take after take, and Chris and 1:30:13.000 --> 1:30:16.200 Marishika were are a perfect every time, every time, the 1:30:16.280 --> 1:30:20.000 whole cast was always perfect. And I, you know, every 1:30:20.080 --> 1:30:22.559 time I had a scene was like, cut back to one, 1:30:23.160 --> 1:30:25.519 miss Cravin, you need five minutes, and I'd be like, yes, 1:30:25.720 --> 1:30:28.240 I'd go run lines again or whatever. And one time 1:30:28.280 --> 1:30:30.840 Marishka comes up to me, sheels, do you want me 1:30:30.960 --> 1:30:33.800 to just tell you what they want and show you? 1:30:34.439 --> 1:30:38.160 And I go yes, because in the agazine world, you're 1:30:38.200 --> 1:30:41.200 not supposed to do that, right, It's called giving someone 1:30:41.280 --> 1:30:44.280 a line reading, and it's supposedly a big no no. 1:30:45.120 --> 1:30:47.800 And I was like, dear God, yes, I'm so out 1:30:47.840 --> 1:30:52.280 of my element. And Marishia said, Okay, on this symbol, 1:30:52.840 --> 1:30:55.560 I'm this syllable. Turn your head to the left and 1:30:55.680 --> 1:30:58.599 I'm this syllable point with your right finger and then 1:30:58.680 --> 1:31:01.439 turn back to the right. They want this much emotion 1:31:01.640 --> 1:31:04.439 on this sentence, with this much emotion on this one. 1:31:05.280 --> 1:31:10.040 And she would help me like that, like whenever I 1:31:10.280 --> 1:31:15.320 was like the one responsible for keeping them later than 1:31:15.560 --> 1:31:17.120 they should have all gone home earlier. 1:31:17.240 --> 1:31:21.800 That episode, that's you could not tell I'm not even 1:31:21.960 --> 1:31:25.880 I'm really like not giving you just a compliment because 1:31:25.880 --> 1:31:26.200 you're here. 1:31:26.920 --> 1:31:29.560 You could not tell like you're great in that episode. 1:31:30.080 --> 1:31:32.360 Like, I was just watching it because I haven't watched 1:31:32.360 --> 1:31:34.160 it since it came out, so I thought i'd better 1:31:34.200 --> 1:31:36.920 bone up a little bit. Yeah, I'm gonna just say 1:31:37.439 --> 1:31:43.160 because it's been literally decades, you know, they they gave 1:31:43.280 --> 1:31:45.800 me what's called a really good editor. 1:31:45.960 --> 1:31:47.439 Yeah, I am. 1:31:48.240 --> 1:31:50.800 I haven't watched the episode in all these years because 1:31:50.880 --> 1:31:53.240 I thought I would cringe too much. But I was 1:31:53.439 --> 1:31:57.840 just watching and now they really covered my ass, like 1:31:58.439 --> 1:32:00.920 they somehow. Well, first of all, the director, I'm to 1:32:00.960 --> 1:32:06.400 win an Oscar an Oscar and he okay, So I 1:32:06.560 --> 1:32:08.519 have to tell you something. So there's a scene I 1:32:08.720 --> 1:32:12.679 had with just Chris and Marishka and I just kept 1:32:12.720 --> 1:32:15.719 screwing it up. And it's the scene where I confess 1:32:16.400 --> 1:32:19.080 that I'm not really just a lesbian bisexual and I 1:32:19.160 --> 1:32:19.880 subbed the guy. 1:32:20.560 --> 1:32:20.840 Okay. 1:32:20.960 --> 1:32:23.800 So I can't remember if the scene had crying or not. 1:32:24.080 --> 1:32:27.560 I just know it was a lot of lines for 1:32:27.720 --> 1:32:30.400 this lady right here, and I kept screwing it up, 1:32:31.080 --> 1:32:36.160 and then I was improvising a lot yes, and Chris 1:32:36.360 --> 1:32:39.880 kept stopping, going what what'd you say? Like he would 1:32:40.000 --> 1:32:42.240 he was started cutting himself, going what are you doing? 1:32:42.840 --> 1:32:47.519 And then finally I was confused by his reaction because 1:32:47.640 --> 1:32:51.479 I had run into Robin Williams in real life about 1:32:52.160 --> 1:32:55.400 three weeks earlier, and I said, hey, I'm going to 1:32:55.439 --> 1:32:57.680 do an episode of Law and Order and I know 1:32:57.840 --> 1:32:59.760 you did one. He may have even won an Emmy 1:32:59.760 --> 1:33:02.320 if he was nominated, for sure, And I go, do 1:33:02.320 --> 1:33:04.880 you have any tips? And he goes, oh, yeah, yeah, 1:33:05.080 --> 1:33:08.120 just improvised. They're not like hardcore about the line oh 1:33:08.600 --> 1:33:14.120 my god, well, my dear dear departed friend Raby Williams 1:33:14.200 --> 1:33:17.840 set me up. And I'm like, of course, I gave 1:33:17.960 --> 1:33:20.120 him so much crack when I saw him again. But 1:33:21.160 --> 1:33:23.320 I said that to Chris and Mrishka because then I 1:33:23.439 --> 1:33:26.920 thought they were being sort of unprofessional, like even on 1:33:27.000 --> 1:33:30.600 the improvising app of Storm, and I'm thinking, you know, 1:33:30.760 --> 1:33:34.080 moving the scene forward or whatever I thought, and then 1:33:34.479 --> 1:33:37.400 finding Chris goes, why did it just keep saying things 1:33:37.439 --> 1:33:39.640 that are in the script, and I go because I 1:33:39.720 --> 1:33:41.560 talked to Rob Moynes about it, and he said, I 1:33:41.640 --> 1:33:44.280 can improvise, and you guys aren't like into the words 1:33:44.360 --> 1:33:49.080 being a lot of perfect and Maloney goes, no, that's 1:33:49.680 --> 1:33:53.519 the case, and I go but Robin said, you guys 1:33:53.960 --> 1:33:56.640 improvise a lot, like every episode, so there's a lot 1:33:56.680 --> 1:34:01.400 of improvise in the lines, and he goes, no, never 1:34:01.680 --> 1:34:06.200 one episode. And then it was like, oh, I didn't 1:34:06.200 --> 1:34:09.240 even memorize this scene, like I had some of the 1:34:09.320 --> 1:34:12.320 bullet points, and then it was like a stop down 1:34:12.439 --> 1:34:14.040 where then I had to go run that. I mean, 1:34:14.880 --> 1:34:18.679 by the end of the episode, I think Marishia wanted 1:34:18.680 --> 1:34:21.240 to adopt me and put me in some sort of 1:34:21.320 --> 1:34:24.760 protective care And Chris Maloney was like he would say 1:34:24.800 --> 1:34:28.400 shit to me, like, yeah, that was funny the first 1:34:28.520 --> 1:34:33.160 time like that because at that point he had not 1:34:33.479 --> 1:34:36.840 won an Emmy for this show. So I was such 1:34:36.840 --> 1:34:39.040 a bitch that I would bring my two Emmys that 1:34:39.120 --> 1:34:41.240 I won for My Life on the d list, and 1:34:41.320 --> 1:34:43.560 I would put them in a different place in his 1:34:43.800 --> 1:34:47.000 office or dressing room every day, Like if I knew 1:34:47.040 --> 1:34:49.320 he had a wardrobe fitting, I'd run in there with 1:34:49.400 --> 1:34:51.960 my emmys and I'd make sure they were right, like 1:34:52.120 --> 1:34:55.080 next to his outfit, or I'd get in earlier than 1:34:55.160 --> 1:34:57.120 him and I'd run and put him on his desk 1:34:57.200 --> 1:34:59.840 in his office to close the door. And yes, the 1:35:00.040 --> 1:35:02.360 first time he thought it was funny and the whole 1:35:02.439 --> 1:35:05.960 crew laughed. But you know, the way to really make 1:35:06.040 --> 1:35:08.559 a bit work is you beat it till it's dead, 1:35:09.240 --> 1:35:13.160 especially with someone like Chris Maloney, who all my gays 1:35:13.240 --> 1:35:16.200 have lost their mind for from Oz and all my 1:35:16.360 --> 1:35:19.200 nerd friends love from White on American Summer. Yeah, so 1:35:19.479 --> 1:35:23.240 he's the perfect target for me. So that's what PROMP did, 1:35:23.280 --> 1:35:26.040 the famous him yelling in front of the crew. 1:35:26.960 --> 1:35:31.360 It was funny the first time, but I also love 1:35:31.439 --> 1:35:34.599 that this like also informs the relationship you guys had 1:35:34.680 --> 1:35:37.599 your characters on set, Like you guys were like banging 1:35:37.680 --> 1:35:38.479 heads the whole time. 1:35:39.080 --> 1:35:42.760 You know, Well, he obviously was attracted to me and 1:35:42.840 --> 1:35:46.080 didn't help to handle it. And that's his problem because 1:35:46.280 --> 1:35:50.120 I have a sex appeal that regardless of I've I'm 1:35:50.160 --> 1:35:54.200 playing a lesbian or you know. But it is funny 1:35:54.320 --> 1:36:00.519 as I rewatch you know the episode man that Inning team, Well, 1:36:00.640 --> 1:36:04.080 how they made my shitty acting come together and I'm 1:36:04.120 --> 1:36:06.639 watching it now going, how did the other actors even 1:36:06.720 --> 1:36:10.800 keep a straight face? Oh wow, they just start laughing 1:36:10.840 --> 1:36:11.040 at me. 1:36:11.320 --> 1:36:14.600 That's a big thing because in my life on the 1:36:14.640 --> 1:36:17.360 D List, you said, Neilbert wrote this with you in mine, 1:36:17.439 --> 1:36:19.920 but we assumed you improvised so much because it was 1:36:20.000 --> 1:36:23.599 so funny and great and okay, so yeah, we're yeah, 1:36:23.760 --> 1:36:24.600 we did not like. 1:36:24.840 --> 1:36:25.880 You said, for a while. 1:36:26.520 --> 1:36:29.879 I wore them down, you guys, Okay, yeah, Look, seriously, 1:36:30.080 --> 1:36:33.200 this is a union show. And I remember one night 1:36:33.360 --> 1:36:35.320 I think they had to stay like an extra two 1:36:35.439 --> 1:36:39.840 hours because I kept screwing up. Sure enough, the director 1:36:40.560 --> 1:36:43.160 came over in that scene where I had described how 1:36:43.280 --> 1:36:46.959 Robin Williams said, go ahead and improvise, and the director 1:36:47.720 --> 1:36:51.960 said to Chris Maloney, look, I'm going to do a 1:36:52.040 --> 1:36:56.080 couple of takes where just to calm her down, I'm 1:36:56.120 --> 1:37:00.479 gonna let her improvise. And remember Marishka was my rowling 1:37:00.920 --> 1:37:04.360 in BROV student, so Mauritian knows how to improvise. And 1:37:04.479 --> 1:37:08.600 she was actually fine. And sure enough, the scene that 1:37:08.600 --> 1:37:11.679 I improvised was the one that made it in because 1:37:12.320 --> 1:37:15.000 at least I was like comfortable, and so maybe it 1:37:15.120 --> 1:37:15.840 was passable. 1:37:16.680 --> 1:37:18.560 Like there's a scene where you meet him on this 1:37:18.840 --> 1:37:21.320 you meet them on the street and you call him 1:37:21.439 --> 1:37:24.840 Assi mcbig pants, And I was like, that just feels 1:37:24.920 --> 1:37:27.800 like something that Kathy Griffin came up with as opposed. 1:37:27.520 --> 1:37:30.800 To take credit because people love that line, but it 1:37:30.960 --> 1:37:34.280 was written by Neil and Dan Truly was the other writer. 1:37:34.400 --> 1:37:36.960 And I don't know which, either Neil Bayer or Dan 1:37:37.080 --> 1:37:40.720 Truly wrote that Assy mcbig pants. The first scene that 1:37:40.920 --> 1:37:45.200 I shot was an outdoor scene with Jess Benson and 1:37:45.240 --> 1:37:48.439 Stabler and they were getting out of a car or 1:37:48.479 --> 1:37:50.800 about to get in a car, and I come out 1:37:50.840 --> 1:37:53.200 of the building and I do the scene and they 1:37:53.320 --> 1:37:55.840 say cut and they say, you know, back to one. 1:37:55.960 --> 1:37:58.400 So I'm like, of course, we'll do take two. And 1:37:58.640 --> 1:38:01.920 I thought, okay, yeah, you did it. You got through 1:38:01.960 --> 1:38:04.800 your first scene. You may not, you know, get an 1:38:04.800 --> 1:38:07.439 Academy award, but you held your own. You did it. 1:38:08.120 --> 1:38:14.120 And Maloney turns to me and goes, I'm Stabler, she's Benson. 1:38:14.680 --> 1:38:19.080 You called me Benson and her Stabler, And I go, well, 1:38:19.120 --> 1:38:21.840 which is which which? Because I knew that would piss 1:38:21.880 --> 1:38:24.720 them off. So he just like gets into the car 1:38:24.880 --> 1:38:28.719 and slams the door in real life, so I just lived, 1:38:28.880 --> 1:38:31.160 like to this day, I have his number and I'll 1:38:31.240 --> 1:38:33.639 just text him like every two years just to buck 1:38:33.680 --> 1:38:36.240 with them, and he never responded for some reason. 1:38:37.680 --> 1:38:41.160 Gosh, I'm upsessed. Oh my god, I named my. 1:38:41.360 --> 1:38:45.320 I named two of my four dogs Olivia Benson, Elliott Stabler. 1:38:45.160 --> 1:38:50.519 Oh Benson bracelet right here, right there, always ready. So 1:38:51.000 --> 1:38:53.280 people come on the show and they always say like, 1:38:53.400 --> 1:38:56.280 Marishka's so funny, Stablor so are like as a comic, 1:38:56.520 --> 1:38:57.679 are they really funny? 1:38:58.439 --> 1:39:00.000 And oh they're not coming? 1:39:00.040 --> 1:39:02.960 Yeah funny, because that's the one thing. 1:39:02.960 --> 1:39:05.960 People are like, she's hysterical, and I'm like, I bet, 1:39:06.200 --> 1:39:07.479 but yeah, thank you. 1:39:08.400 --> 1:39:14.799 They're definitely funny for dramatic actors because it is it's amazing. 1:39:14.880 --> 1:39:18.880 It's dazzling to see how soon they go from hut 1:39:19.120 --> 1:39:23.320 after like a very serious interrogation scene to coofing around 1:39:23.360 --> 1:39:26.840 with each other. And you know, the kind of cool 1:39:26.920 --> 1:39:29.400 thing about the back stuffy episode, as I call it, 1:39:30.160 --> 1:39:33.040 is they really went there with the are they or 1:39:33.120 --> 1:39:36.240 aren't they going to do it? Are? You know? She 1:39:36.479 --> 1:39:39.400 says to Benson, Stabler has the hats for you, and 1:39:39.600 --> 1:39:43.320 Benson's like, never gonna happen now, I hope you know 1:39:44.840 --> 1:39:48.719 that Dick will cut out the full on kiss between 1:39:48.800 --> 1:39:49.719 Murushka and myself. 1:39:49.800 --> 1:39:51.200 We didn't know until we saw it on the d 1:39:51.360 --> 1:39:54.360 List episode. You were watching it with your mom and 1:39:54.439 --> 1:39:55.600 you were like, they cut out the. 1:39:55.640 --> 1:39:59.920 Kiss, and Neil bar was very upset and Dan Truell 1:40:00.120 --> 1:40:02.960 and they wrote the episode. And to this day, I 1:40:03.080 --> 1:40:05.479 only ran into Dick one time after that, but I 1:40:05.479 --> 1:40:09.000 would love to ask him because I heard that. He 1:40:09.280 --> 1:40:13.560 personally said, no, it's too far, and I was like, 1:40:14.280 --> 1:40:15.640 not for bad to Duffy. 1:40:15.600 --> 1:40:20.320 Yeah, but also not for SVU and also I may. 1:40:20.240 --> 1:40:22.600 Be the only guest star in the history of the 1:40:22.680 --> 1:40:25.040 show who got to make out with both of that. 1:40:25.439 --> 1:40:29.320 Oh yes, because they left the kiss with Chris Maloney in, 1:40:30.040 --> 1:40:32.160 but they cut out the Chris with Murcia Carte. 1:40:32.400 --> 1:40:35.519 It's so good. It's the kiss with Chris where you're like, 1:40:35.600 --> 1:40:37.880 call me some John, it's so good, John. 1:40:39.280 --> 1:40:43.080 I mean, okay, wait, you were talking about Marishka and 1:40:43.200 --> 1:40:45.000 Chris being part of your show. Well we have to 1:40:45.040 --> 1:40:47.760 talk about Ic being part of your show. He's in 1:40:47.840 --> 1:40:49.800 there a little bit where you guys do a full 1:40:49.840 --> 1:40:52.479 reenactment with a body and you talk about anal tearing 1:40:52.640 --> 1:40:53.080 or something. 1:40:53.520 --> 1:40:55.560 I mean like I fell in love with him. I 1:40:55.640 --> 1:40:58.439 fell in love with him because first of all, I 1:40:58.640 --> 1:41:02.400 know him more as shit, So it was almost I 1:41:02.520 --> 1:41:05.360 had to adjustice seeing him in the acting environment, even 1:41:05.400 --> 1:41:08.519 though he I would argue, was on that show longer 1:41:08.600 --> 1:41:11.960 than he was putting out records, But he was so 1:41:12.479 --> 1:41:15.960 gay to play on My Life on the dal List. 1:41:16.720 --> 1:41:19.280 We were in heaven because you know, you you hope 1:41:19.400 --> 1:41:21.800 and you pray for somethoint like that, and we're like, man, 1:41:21.840 --> 1:41:24.719 if we can get any cast members to like really 1:41:24.840 --> 1:41:27.240 goof off and not be afraid they're going to get 1:41:27.240 --> 1:41:30.320 in trouble from their bosses or the network or whatever. 1:41:30.800 --> 1:41:33.840 So yeah, when we shot a mock episode from My 1:41:33.920 --> 1:41:36.400 Life on the d List and Iced Tea was definitely 1:41:36.479 --> 1:41:36.800 the star. 1:41:37.920 --> 1:41:41.120 Yeah, it was. It's an amazing button to that episode. 1:41:41.200 --> 1:41:44.360 But I just remember thinking, like, what a pro, Like 1:41:44.520 --> 1:41:48.360 he's so used to doing this coming from a wrap background, 1:41:49.040 --> 1:41:53.760 and he's just on the job and solid, take after 1:41:53.920 --> 1:41:57.200 take after take. That's what I still can't get over. 1:41:57.600 --> 1:42:01.800 How every crew member, whether it's the person you know, 1:42:02.080 --> 1:42:05.160 the grip who's carrying the wire or the gaffer who's 1:42:05.160 --> 1:42:08.880 putt in the tape here, every person was so on 1:42:09.080 --> 1:42:12.479 their game from doing it week after week after week, 1:42:12.640 --> 1:42:15.880 and you won't find more hardworking people anywhere. And I 1:42:16.439 --> 1:42:19.559 hate that Hollywood gets a bad rap when it comes 1:42:19.640 --> 1:42:22.880 to a show as good as SBU, because God, they 1:42:23.560 --> 1:42:27.400 were so harm from the writers all the way down 1:42:27.439 --> 1:42:31.920 to the production assistant, everybody in between. And then to 1:42:32.120 --> 1:42:37.160 think that Maurushka and Chris have to deal with a 1:42:37.360 --> 1:42:42.320 new God forbid Kathy Griffin every episode, Like you know, 1:42:42.360 --> 1:42:45.720 because I asked Murcia Merchka about different people, like what 1:42:45.920 --> 1:42:49.720 was Karl Burnette like? And I remember Mrshka saying she 1:42:49.800 --> 1:42:52.240 doesn't want to come to set till ten am, like 1:42:53.000 --> 1:42:56.559 she's Cara Burnette. Let her coming new I who care? 1:42:57.240 --> 1:42:59.559 And she went on to win an Emmy, which she deserved. 1:43:00.360 --> 1:43:03.439 And I don't remember the name of the actor, but 1:43:03.800 --> 1:43:06.960 she told me about one actor they had where before 1:43:07.160 --> 1:43:10.799 every scene he would hit himself and go do it dummy, 1:43:11.080 --> 1:43:15.000 Do it dummy. And to this day, I walk around 1:43:15.120 --> 1:43:18.320 in life just it's like a private joke with myself 1:43:18.439 --> 1:43:21.320 or find somewhere I'll just go do it dummy, do 1:43:21.439 --> 1:43:24.479 it dummy. And I always remember because she and Chris 1:43:24.560 --> 1:43:28.160 would turn to each other randomly and go do it dummy. 1:43:28.360 --> 1:43:31.240 And finally I said, what are you guys talking about. Oh, 1:43:31.520 --> 1:43:35.200 Matthew Lillard that we did we need him. 1:43:35.520 --> 1:43:38.720 He did not mention that he's in the episode. 1:43:38.360 --> 1:43:42.920 Do it do it dummy? Yeah, And so to tell 1:43:43.000 --> 1:43:45.479 it to this day, I walk around, go do it dummy, 1:43:45.840 --> 1:43:48.959 and that's just look, I'm not I know comics. 1:43:49.080 --> 1:43:50.720 I don't know like real actors yea. 1:43:51.120 --> 1:43:54.639 And so it was just fascinating for me to see 1:43:54.840 --> 1:43:58.560 like hardcore actors day in and day out. But like 1:43:58.680 --> 1:44:01.280 I said, the way Chris Mushka, I have to deal 1:44:01.439 --> 1:44:06.840 with the personality of me right where I'm like, oh 1:44:06.880 --> 1:44:09.479 my gosh, I can barely keep my line straight. And 1:44:09.640 --> 1:44:14.120 then Matthew Lillard preps in that very unique way. Guess 1:44:14.160 --> 1:44:18.280 who was the guest star after my episode. Sharon Stowe. 1:44:18.360 --> 1:44:20.639 Oh yeah, she did a little arm Harlowe. 1:44:21.040 --> 1:44:23.600 So I tried to scare Maloney and this was so 1:44:23.760 --> 1:44:26.680 much fun. I told Schery later. I was like, you know, 1:44:27.120 --> 1:44:30.559 I know Sharon pretty well, and trust me, you are 1:44:30.640 --> 1:44:33.600 going to work around her and her schedule. And I 1:44:33.760 --> 1:44:36.200 was hitting him so hard that by the end he 1:44:36.360 --> 1:44:37.960 was like, well, let me tell you something. When she 1:44:38.080 --> 1:44:41.240 shows up on that she didn't go real fast. Then 1:44:41.240 --> 1:44:44.960 we went up with a movie star behavior, like I 1:44:45.160 --> 1:44:47.479 was so evil, Like any chance I could get to 1:44:47.560 --> 1:44:48.560 fuck with him, I had to. 1:44:49.040 --> 1:44:52.040 Oh my god, I feels like it works. It seems 1:44:52.080 --> 1:44:54.200 like you really knew how to get his ass. 1:44:55.000 --> 1:44:57.559 I mean I was doing it for the character natural, yes, 1:44:57.680 --> 1:44:58.040 of course. 1:44:58.240 --> 1:45:00.599 Well the thing is is, like I know they you're 1:45:00.680 --> 1:45:02.200 like they gave you a good editor or whatever, but 1:45:02.280 --> 1:45:04.120 I really did think you did a really good job 1:45:04.439 --> 1:45:06.479 of Yeah, you're this bossy bitch. 1:45:06.600 --> 1:45:09.720 I'm sure like that. You know, you can channel the comedian. 1:45:09.520 --> 1:45:11.639 In you to do that. But then there's like a part, 1:45:11.760 --> 1:45:14.080 like the part with Marishka, where you're like really scared, 1:45:14.200 --> 1:45:17.000 Like I really felt that from you, Like and in 1:45:17.080 --> 1:45:18.519 the Dalist episode, I was. 1:45:18.600 --> 1:45:21.960 Crying because, like I said, I was crying because I 1:45:22.400 --> 1:45:25.760 was thinking how over my head was. So you're right, 1:45:25.920 --> 1:45:28.800 the crying scene I was nervous about. But then when 1:45:28.840 --> 1:45:30.680 it came time to do it, I had planted to 1:45:30.720 --> 1:45:31.240 cry a fall. 1:45:31.400 --> 1:45:31.599 Yeah. 1:45:32.360 --> 1:45:35.040 Well, like because even the way that Liza Manelli, by 1:45:35.080 --> 1:45:37.400 the way, iconic that you just for your what you 1:45:37.520 --> 1:45:40.800 call your dinky little non union reality show, you get 1:45:41.000 --> 1:45:43.320 Eliza Minelli to come on and be your acting coach 1:45:43.400 --> 1:45:44.240 for this episode. 1:45:44.560 --> 1:45:48.120 That was like, was amazing. First of all, she was 1:45:48.200 --> 1:45:50.720 also on lawng Order. You know that, Yes, and so 1:45:51.840 --> 1:45:54.479 we when we got to go to Liza Bonellie's freaking 1:45:54.640 --> 1:46:01.439 apartment and she's she's smoking a city. She changed clothing. 1:46:01.720 --> 1:46:06.160 I remember I changed just well. And I remember my assistant, 1:46:06.320 --> 1:46:10.280 who to this day says, like, of all, she was 1:46:10.360 --> 1:46:12.439 my assistant for seven years. Their name is Tiffany. 1:46:12.520 --> 1:46:12.800 She was on. 1:46:14.880 --> 1:46:19.280 Yes, and she's like, I've seen Liza ben Ellie's vagina, 1:46:19.560 --> 1:46:22.080 and I was like, that's my girl. Because Liza and 1:46:22.200 --> 1:46:25.160 I being old timey show folk, when it's time to 1:46:25.280 --> 1:46:28.240 change clothes, we're just like used to be assistant being 1:46:28.320 --> 1:46:31.799 there or whatever. And it was so funny. Liza changes 1:46:31.840 --> 1:46:36.000 her clothes pants off, there's Tiffany like do I turn away? 1:46:36.040 --> 1:46:38.439 And I'm like, no, he's one of us. 1:46:38.680 --> 1:46:41.960 No amazing, but. 1:46:42.040 --> 1:46:46.439 Yeah, getting getting acting advice from a freaking Academy Award 1:46:46.479 --> 1:46:49.120 winner who also had been on the show was like 1:46:49.360 --> 1:46:49.920 chef's kiss. 1:46:50.240 --> 1:46:53.479 I do have a question. You know this set you 1:46:53.560 --> 1:46:57.120 were in pulp fiction, one of my faves. You don't 1:46:57.120 --> 1:46:59.320 want to I carried pulp Fiction. 1:47:00.920 --> 1:47:04.759 I pulp Fiction won the palm door I can because 1:47:04.800 --> 1:47:07.439 of my three lines. But go ahead with your insults. 1:47:08.760 --> 1:47:10.439 Oh no, I was just gonna say, you know, he 1:47:10.600 --> 1:47:13.800 seems very serious, and I was wondering, like what set 1:47:14.000 --> 1:47:16.960 was more serious, I guess, or maybe I don't even 1:47:17.000 --> 1:47:18.120 know what a Quentin set was. 1:47:18.200 --> 1:47:18.240 Like. 1:47:18.360 --> 1:47:21.920 You know, first of all, the Quentin set, he is 1:47:22.160 --> 1:47:24.840 very LetterPerfect, So thank god I only had three lines. 1:47:25.360 --> 1:47:29.559 So even though I met Quentin because he was really 1:47:29.680 --> 1:47:32.600 close friends with Julia Sweeney, who was It's pat On 1:47:32.840 --> 1:47:36.760 snl and in the Cings comedy Troupe. So one thing 1:47:36.840 --> 1:47:40.160 that's a weird fun fact is that there are five 1:47:40.360 --> 1:47:43.920 groundlings in pulp fiction. Like the guy that plays the game, 1:47:44.520 --> 1:47:49.719 the little scene I'm in where Marcellus bing Raims wakes 1:47:49.840 --> 1:47:52.439 up after Bruce Willis hit him in the car, and 1:47:52.800 --> 1:47:55.080 there's not a girl named Karen Mariama. She was a 1:47:55.120 --> 1:47:58.160 groundling and it was really cool. Quentin came to see 1:47:58.200 --> 1:48:02.120 a growling show and gave five of us parts. Julia 1:48:02.320 --> 1:48:06.920 played Harvey Kaiitel's girlfriend. And you know, like I said, 1:48:07.080 --> 1:48:09.880 the gift, you okay, okay, you never saw space, but 1:48:10.000 --> 1:48:12.679 his name is Steve Eberts, and so that was also 1:48:12.880 --> 1:48:15.840 unheard of for like how many improv people would be 1:48:15.920 --> 1:48:19.360 in like a legit movie. But yeah, that set was 1:48:19.439 --> 1:48:23.479 also scary because I know Clinton is a perfectionist. And also, 1:48:23.800 --> 1:48:29.120 you know, he wrote every word. And when I went 1:48:29.160 --> 1:48:31.439 out with them, not for a long time, everybody went 1:48:31.479 --> 1:48:34.120 out with them, like four times. But one thing he 1:48:34.240 --> 1:48:37.200 used to do that was really cool is he would 1:48:37.280 --> 1:48:40.280 call me when he was writing pulp fiction and be like, 1:48:40.360 --> 1:48:42.880 can I read you some pages at three in the morning, 1:48:43.240 --> 1:48:48.200 And I'd go, yes, yes, you can. And it was dazzling. 1:48:48.880 --> 1:48:51.760 How when I then went to like the cast and 1:48:51.840 --> 1:48:55.920 cruise screening of the finished product, he had to change 1:48:56.120 --> 1:49:01.519 almost nothing from the original draft. That dialogue was that good. Wow, 1:49:01.640 --> 1:49:05.360 So I thought he read me these scenes months and 1:49:05.439 --> 1:49:08.639 months ago, and now he's working with you know, Christopher 1:49:08.680 --> 1:49:11.760 Walker and John Garolta and Numa Thurman and who knows 1:49:11.800 --> 1:49:15.200 who's left, And sure enough, most of that dialogue was 1:49:15.600 --> 1:49:17.400 the same as the night he wrote it. He just 1:49:17.600 --> 1:49:17.880 has it. 1:49:19.080 --> 1:49:24.000 Wow, that's amazing. I honestly want to talk about you know, 1:49:24.080 --> 1:49:25.760 we can. We want to talk about more about your 1:49:26.160 --> 1:49:28.040 career outside of us to you, if that's okay with you, 1:49:29.439 --> 1:49:31.360 we are I mean, I'm tour now. 1:49:31.720 --> 1:49:32.000 I know. 1:49:32.479 --> 1:49:34.280 I'm so excited to see your tour. I mean I 1:49:34.320 --> 1:49:38.800 think we're both like very excited to see how great 1:49:38.840 --> 1:49:42.360 you're doing after all of the bullshit, after. 1:49:42.400 --> 1:49:45.920 Seven years of shit. Yes, like I after the former 1:49:46.160 --> 1:49:50.760 president of the United States opened an investigation on me 1:49:50.840 --> 1:49:54.080 at the best of the Attorney General of the United 1:49:54.160 --> 1:49:58.320 States put me on the no fly list, the Inner Polist, 1:49:58.800 --> 1:50:02.280 and the Five Eyes List, which is the terror watch list. 1:50:02.479 --> 1:50:03.240 Oh my god. 1:50:03.560 --> 1:50:08.320 And I was interrogated under oath by two federal agencies 1:50:08.479 --> 1:50:12.599 within the DOJ, the US Attorney's Office and the Secret Service, 1:50:13.200 --> 1:50:17.439 and they were very seriously considering charging me with the 1:50:17.560 --> 1:50:21.719 crime of conspiracy to assassinate the President of the United States. 1:50:22.520 --> 1:50:25.640 So when I hear all these other comments, especially the 1:50:25.680 --> 1:50:30.960 guy Kromits bitching about maybe I was canceled. Okay, first 1:50:30.960 --> 1:50:34.280 of all, you probably have it coming, like whipping your 1:50:34.320 --> 1:50:37.120 dick out, and don't be a Holocaust denier or some 1:50:37.280 --> 1:50:41.479 crazy shit. I took a protest phono, which some people 1:50:41.560 --> 1:50:44.560 think was funny, some people think was graphic. I just 1:50:44.680 --> 1:50:47.560 was trying to shake the people up. But you know, 1:50:47.920 --> 1:50:52.360 the lake that it went to was just it unmatched 1:50:52.439 --> 1:50:55.559 in history. And I'm not putting myself in their class, 1:50:55.920 --> 1:50:58.519 but even the great George Carlin and the great Lenny Bruce, 1:50:58.840 --> 1:51:02.080 they had local law enforcement harass them. I had the 1:51:02.200 --> 1:51:05.519 Feds come back. Yeah, no, and I thought I filed 1:51:05.560 --> 1:51:08.479 a FOY, which is a Freedom of Information Act, and 1:51:08.920 --> 1:51:12.800 they were really serious about trying to charge me with 1:51:12.920 --> 1:51:13.920 that crime and indict me. 1:51:14.920 --> 1:51:18.160 I talk about this and arguments all the time with people. 1:51:18.360 --> 1:51:21.160 I go all these freedom of speech bros. Did people 1:51:21.240 --> 1:51:24.000 have your I don't remember all these guy comics. Really, 1:51:24.520 --> 1:51:27.560 nobody happen in your back? And I'm like that everybody 1:51:27.640 --> 1:51:31.000 turned on me. Let me like, people think only the 1:51:31.120 --> 1:51:34.040 right wing turn on me. No, No, it was left 1:51:34.160 --> 1:51:36.040 right and center. I mean when I was fired from 1:51:36.160 --> 1:51:38.519 CNN for New Year's I read it on the ticker. 1:51:38.640 --> 1:51:42.599 Nobody even bothered to call me, and I lost about 1:51:42.720 --> 1:51:45.280 seventy five percent of my friends. To this day, they 1:51:45.360 --> 1:51:48.080 haven't come back. No one's apologized. 1:51:48.200 --> 1:51:50.960 I crack up when people are like, oh, but they're 1:51:50.960 --> 1:51:52.600 all apologizing now. No. 1:51:53.800 --> 1:51:53.840 No. 1:51:54.479 --> 1:51:56.599 A lot of people think, hello, well, if you've had 1:51:56.640 --> 1:51:59.880 it coming and to be out of work for six 1:52:00.160 --> 1:52:04.040 and a half years because of Donald's right. 1:52:04.120 --> 1:52:09.920 I know it's not they only have at me. 1:52:10.000 --> 1:52:13.400 I'd be I'd be heard, but I know, so it 1:52:13.560 --> 1:52:14.120 was crazy. 1:52:14.280 --> 1:52:16.599 And then these canceled comics who are still selling out 1:52:16.760 --> 1:52:19.479 MSG even though they're canceled. We have to be like 1:52:19.560 --> 1:52:22.879 when are they allowed backs? 1:52:23.240 --> 1:52:24.080 Like thank you? 1:52:24.600 --> 1:52:27.519 I always say, the only person I know that's ever 1:52:27.720 --> 1:52:32.200 actually been canceled is you, Like there's no one else 1:52:32.360 --> 1:52:32.960 I can think of. 1:52:33.120 --> 1:52:34.719 It was you and the boys. 1:52:34.880 --> 1:52:37.160 When it's one of the boys, they start call the wagons. 1:52:37.680 --> 1:52:40.960 And I'm sorry to say, it's still as bad in 1:52:41.080 --> 1:52:43.400 stand up as when I started and my dear departed. 1:52:43.479 --> 1:52:45.360 Joan Rivers and I would talk about this all the 1:52:45.439 --> 1:52:49.280 time because Joan would say, Kathy, it's as bad as 1:52:49.320 --> 1:52:51.320 it was for Philip still, or when I used to 1:52:51.360 --> 1:52:55.040 talk to Phyllis, and Phyllis would say it's as bad 1:52:55.120 --> 1:52:57.240 as it was for Tony Fields when I would talk 1:52:57.320 --> 1:53:00.280 to her back in the day. So I just I 1:53:00.400 --> 1:53:02.519 know you don't want to hear this, but I do 1:53:02.640 --> 1:53:05.320 feel compelled to say to younger women, at least when 1:53:05.360 --> 1:53:08.479 it comes to stand up, the misogyny runs deep, and 1:53:08.600 --> 1:53:12.160 it's still really bad and so the fact that, like 1:53:12.280 --> 1:53:15.040 I said, I wasn't just I didn't just have like 1:53:15.120 --> 1:53:18.320 a bad six months, but to be that level of 1:53:18.520 --> 1:53:22.240 canceled and investigated that canceled isn't even in the right 1:53:22.280 --> 1:53:28.360 word investigated by the DJ you couldn't fly. And also 1:53:28.520 --> 1:53:30.880 the death I was in the middle of a fifty 1:53:30.920 --> 1:53:33.519 city tour and I had twenty five cities left, and 1:53:33.840 --> 1:53:36.680 each one of those cities was canceled within seventy two 1:53:36.760 --> 1:53:40.240 hours because they got so many death threats and bomb 1:53:40.320 --> 1:53:44.320 threats to the theater because of me and as from Trumpers. 1:53:44.840 --> 1:53:48.080 So I don't even blame the theaters, like if they 1:53:48.160 --> 1:53:51.040 got that call, like you know, we're gonna come shoot her. 1:53:51.400 --> 1:53:53.679 They love Oh can I see what Trumpers love? 1:53:54.880 --> 1:53:55.160 Cunt. 1:53:56.160 --> 1:53:58.680 Yeah, all my death threats where I'm gonna shoot you 1:53:58.760 --> 1:54:01.040 in the count for your count got you in the 1:54:01.160 --> 1:54:04.280 Kant countymin count down, You fucking con't. I'll put your 1:54:04.320 --> 1:54:07.920 continent's place. Your cont is a terrorist. That's like their 1:54:08.000 --> 1:54:11.840 favorite word. And remember this is the religious right. Yeah, 1:54:11.960 --> 1:54:16.720 so yes, I've made enemies. And although I will say 1:54:16.760 --> 1:54:19.439 in my new tour cadey girlfriend, my life on the 1:54:19.520 --> 1:54:23.720 PTSD list, where I'm playing Carnegie Hall, which I thought 1:54:23.760 --> 1:54:27.120 would never happen again. I don't even mention Trump in 1:54:27.200 --> 1:54:30.840 my new show. It sounds great right when I just 1:54:31.520 --> 1:54:34.280 I talked a lot about PTSD because I feel like, 1:54:35.040 --> 1:54:38.040 collectively we all have sort of a form of it 1:54:38.200 --> 1:54:42.520 between trump Ism and COVID, and you know, I believe 1:54:42.560 --> 1:54:45.080 climate change is daily and I don't know, you know, 1:54:45.600 --> 1:54:47.920 so I'm a bit of a dumist, I admit it. 1:54:48.520 --> 1:54:51.400 But you know, they talk about waiting for a rainy day, 1:54:51.480 --> 1:54:53.400 and my rainy day happened and it was six and 1:54:53.440 --> 1:54:56.960 a half years long. So I talk about PTSD and 1:54:57.040 --> 1:54:59.880 don't worry. There's still a lot of juicy celebrity gossip 1:55:00.040 --> 1:55:00.600 that I throw in. 1:55:01.320 --> 1:55:03.920 I've never been to Carnegie, so I'm exciting. 1:55:04.000 --> 1:55:07.320 Oh, Carnegie is magical and people don't know it's a 1:55:07.400 --> 1:55:10.560 great place for stand up because the acoustics are so amazing. 1:55:11.280 --> 1:55:13.880 The audience just they show up in a more of 1:55:13.920 --> 1:55:17.879 a theatrical way than a club, and it's just magical. 1:55:17.920 --> 1:55:21.240 And it will be my sixth time playing Carnegie, which 1:55:21.360 --> 1:55:25.959 is the record for a single female comedian to play Carnegie, 1:55:26.280 --> 1:55:28.880 not as part of a charity show, not as part 1:55:28.920 --> 1:55:31.640 of a musical lineup, not even with an open I 1:55:31.680 --> 1:55:34.560 have no opening act. I write all my own material 1:55:35.400 --> 1:55:38.840 and I go up there for two hours. If you're 1:55:38.920 --> 1:55:41.040 lucky at the little turn, I did two hours and 1:55:41.160 --> 1:55:43.760 forty minutes. I'll try to keep it to two. I'll 1:55:43.800 --> 1:55:44.720 try to keep it to two. 1:55:45.680 --> 1:55:48.960 Wow, what not only like the Trump thing? I Oh, 1:55:49.160 --> 1:55:51.640 I'm a shit talker. I love that you say everything 1:55:52.040 --> 1:55:54.560 And it was so cool. I didn't even know this that, like, 1:55:54.720 --> 1:55:57.200 after you worked on Seinfeld you talk so much about him, 1:55:57.240 --> 1:55:59.880 they had you back and I'm like, what an icon 1:56:00.160 --> 1:56:01.720 for a shit talker that instead of. 1:56:01.760 --> 1:56:04.760 Losing a job, you got another job, Like what a hero? 1:56:05.000 --> 1:56:08.600 I just yeah, I really they wrote the episode for me. 1:56:09.000 --> 1:56:12.120 I'm Seinfeld because I did the episode when I was 1:56:12.160 --> 1:56:15.480 a total unknown. Then I got my first HBO special, 1:56:15.560 --> 1:56:17.800 which back in those days was a really big deal, 1:56:18.120 --> 1:56:22.440 which is now Max and I told the story that 1:56:22.720 --> 1:56:24.800 Jerry was like kind of an asshole on the Senate 1:56:25.280 --> 1:56:28.040 and I said, look, I'm just this little medium level 1:56:28.120 --> 1:56:31.120 guest star dealist. But you know, like I was like, really, 1:56:31.200 --> 1:56:34.720 couldn't it be nicer? And never in a million years 1:56:34.840 --> 1:56:38.560 that I thought he would see it. So he saw it, 1:56:38.920 --> 1:56:41.600 and God loved him. He actually had a sense of 1:56:41.680 --> 1:56:44.080 humor about it, and so they wrote my character to 1:56:44.200 --> 1:56:48.480 come back. She became a comedian whose number one topic 1:56:48.680 --> 1:56:51.600 is just making fun of Jerry Seinfeld, which I was 1:56:51.720 --> 1:56:54.400 doing in kind of a small way, And so that 1:56:54.800 --> 1:56:58.040 was magical to walk back because I can know if 1:56:58.080 --> 1:57:02.160 he'd be like, if he'd be hateful. And the show 1:57:02.320 --> 1:57:05.600 was at its peak, and Jerry had just announced that 1:57:05.840 --> 1:57:08.320 week to Time magazine that he was quitting the show, 1:57:08.960 --> 1:57:11.920 so there was a lot going on for him. And 1:57:12.000 --> 1:57:14.520 then who steps on set this pain and the ass 1:57:14.600 --> 1:57:14.960 right here. 1:57:16.760 --> 1:57:19.160 I have to just tell you I watched every episode 1:57:19.200 --> 1:57:20.720 of Life on the D List when it came out, 1:57:20.800 --> 1:57:22.920 like I was watching it in real time. I was 1:57:23.040 --> 1:57:26.960 like a best I thought it was so funny because 1:57:27.040 --> 1:57:29.760 you know, there's other reality and it's just regular people, 1:57:29.960 --> 1:57:33.120 and this was like a funny person doing a reality 1:57:33.160 --> 1:57:36.080 show that wasn't like stand up, you know last Comic Stand. 1:57:36.120 --> 1:57:38.000 It wasn't about the stand up. You were just a 1:57:38.080 --> 1:57:41.200 funny person living your life. And I just think it's 1:57:41.280 --> 1:57:44.560 like it really it was a revolutionary reality show. I 1:57:44.720 --> 1:57:47.440 love that you own it. That's so badass. And I 1:57:47.600 --> 1:57:50.720 loved your like relationship with your parents, so always being 1:57:50.840 --> 1:57:51.120 on it. 1:57:51.520 --> 1:57:52.760 I mean, it was so sweet. 1:57:52.880 --> 1:57:55.640 I loved yours were just so naturally funny. I was 1:57:55.720 --> 1:57:58.360 lucky because a lot of people would be different than 1:57:58.400 --> 1:58:01.520 lot as soon as the cameras were and I really 1:58:01.760 --> 1:58:05.760 enjoy taking real people that are naturally funny, like my 1:58:05.880 --> 1:58:08.840 mom and dad. And when we would put the camera on, 1:58:09.480 --> 1:58:11.760 it was amazing. My mom and dad could turn it 1:58:11.840 --> 1:58:15.960 on like they were comedians, but they were themselves, and 1:58:16.080 --> 1:58:20.360 I think that came through so clearly that I loved 1:58:20.400 --> 1:58:22.840 it that every time they would focus group the show, 1:58:23.360 --> 1:58:27.520 people would say, more of Kathy's parents, we love Kathy's parents. 1:58:27.880 --> 1:58:29.960 And even when my dad passed away, it was like 1:58:30.200 --> 1:58:33.640 during the filming of the show, so we covered it, 1:58:34.400 --> 1:58:37.240 and yet my mom and I are so grieving, and 1:58:37.360 --> 1:58:41.240 my siblings of course, and then you know, my mom 1:58:41.480 --> 1:58:44.120 kind of took over that space, and then it all 1:58:44.280 --> 1:58:47.920 became about Maggie and her box and wine, and you know, like, 1:58:48.320 --> 1:58:51.440 I'm so touched that people got to know my mom 1:58:51.480 --> 1:58:54.040 and dad on that show, because they really were like that. 1:58:54.280 --> 1:58:57.000 When people say I feel like I knew your parents, 1:58:57.560 --> 1:58:59.040 you did, I totally did. 1:58:59.240 --> 1:59:03.600 I totally did, especially Maggie, like, yeah, you know, and 1:59:03.680 --> 1:59:06.640 what a beautiful thing for you to have I had. 1:59:06.800 --> 1:59:09.680 I'm so proud, and I'm so proud of them because 1:59:10.240 --> 1:59:12.480 I get a lot of gay people to come up 1:59:12.520 --> 1:59:16.040 to me and say, watching that show with my parents 1:59:16.520 --> 1:59:19.680 made it easier for me to come out because they 1:59:19.800 --> 1:59:23.120 saw how tolerant your parents were. And I say, well, 1:59:23.200 --> 1:59:25.600 first of all, they were drunk, and second of all, 1:59:26.240 --> 1:59:29.400 I think you know. The great thing about my parents 1:59:29.480 --> 1:59:32.600 on the Dealers show is they never got on a 1:59:32.720 --> 1:59:36.160 soapbox and talked about gay rights or whatever. Well I 1:59:36.200 --> 1:59:38.080 shouldn't say that. My mom went to a march with me, 1:59:38.200 --> 1:59:42.680 but they just kind of, as Marishika would say, reeked 1:59:43.080 --> 1:59:47.960 of acceptance and would never judge a person negatively for 1:59:48.520 --> 1:59:52.440 being gay or LGBTQ any of the letters. And I'm 1:59:52.480 --> 1:59:55.800 so proud of that because I never had to prompt 1:59:55.880 --> 1:59:59.400 them to, like, hey, say something nice. That's just who 1:59:59.520 --> 2:00:03.640 they are. They were used to me hanging out with 2:00:03.720 --> 2:00:07.600 the gay kid that I somehow found in kindergarten. And 2:00:07.760 --> 2:00:10.400 I was a hag from when I was a child, 2:00:10.520 --> 2:00:13.560 and I'm a proud hag now, and my parents just 2:00:13.720 --> 2:00:17.400 kind of went along with everything and never judged anybody 2:00:17.480 --> 2:00:21.360 in that area. And it really touches me that even 2:00:21.640 --> 2:00:24.360 in the two thousands, like I'm not talking centuries ago, 2:00:24.880 --> 2:00:27.720 but there were gay people that didn't have an example 2:00:28.360 --> 2:00:32.280 of someone in their eighties going to like a gay 2:00:32.320 --> 2:00:35.000 bar for a happy hour because they had better appetizers 2:00:35.560 --> 2:00:39.520 and then talking to gay people, and they had a 2:00:39.640 --> 2:00:42.480 million gay friends, and people had stopped them on the street, 2:00:42.560 --> 2:00:45.520 and I eventually got them a condo in West Hollywood. 2:00:45.600 --> 2:00:48.360 The game back up Los Angeles, like the King and 2:00:48.520 --> 2:00:52.240 Queen of Who, and that was great. So I always 2:00:52.280 --> 2:00:55.440 say to people the series continued in real life even 2:00:55.520 --> 2:00:59.000 after we went out there, So it's I'm still very 2:00:59.080 --> 2:01:01.920 firmly planted the D list, trust me, and all that 2:01:02.120 --> 2:01:04.200 stuff still happens on a daily basis. 2:01:05.320 --> 2:01:08.560 Amazing. I don't know, I don't know if this is 2:01:08.640 --> 2:01:12.240 just out of nowhere, but so much of your stuff 2:01:12.280 --> 2:01:14.960 with celebs, I like hearing about celebs. Is there anyone 2:01:15.000 --> 2:01:16.800 that you thought was gonna be the worst and then 2:01:16.840 --> 2:01:21.000 you ended up being shockingly surprised at how great they were? 2:01:21.520 --> 2:01:24.520 Well, I can tell you the thing that gives me 2:01:24.640 --> 2:01:27.600 a ton of gratification, and it's now at the age 2:01:27.600 --> 2:01:30.560 of sixty three, it's happened a lot, and it's kind 2:01:30.600 --> 2:01:33.520 of one of my favorite things about doing stand up 2:01:33.560 --> 2:01:37.800 all these years, which is I really love it when 2:01:37.840 --> 2:01:40.440 a star comes up to me. And it's happened with 2:01:40.560 --> 2:01:44.120 everyone from Miley Cyrus to Sharon Stone, and they'll come 2:01:44.240 --> 2:01:49.040 up to me and go, oh, oh, you were just kidding, 2:01:50.320 --> 2:01:53.480 Like I remember Miley saying next to me, so that's 2:01:53.520 --> 2:01:57.440 whole time You've got me kidding, And I said, yes, Miley, 2:01:57.560 --> 2:02:00.600 I was just I'm just kidding. I'm a kiedion and 2:02:00.680 --> 2:02:03.640 I'm making fun of you because you're a gorgeous, successful, 2:02:04.400 --> 2:02:07.840 multi millionaire who's got the world by the tail, and 2:02:08.680 --> 2:02:11.120 you know, so I'm going to say a fair game. 2:02:11.760 --> 2:02:15.040 And so I'm friendly with Miley, I'm friendly with Sharon Stone, 2:02:15.800 --> 2:02:18.800 you know like that that's revelatory to me. So I 2:02:19.080 --> 2:02:22.680 just love when they come around and go like, oh, okay, 2:02:23.240 --> 2:02:25.560 I get it. And like I said, I was good 2:02:25.600 --> 2:02:28.240 friends with Joan Rivers and I would see it with 2:02:28.360 --> 2:02:30.920 her where certain slabs would still be mad at her, 2:02:31.560 --> 2:02:34.640 and most of the time celebrities would be honored that 2:02:34.760 --> 2:02:37.200 she made fun of them. And that's my goal. I 2:02:37.440 --> 2:02:39.280 just want them to laugh. I'm not trying to make 2:02:39.320 --> 2:02:42.840 anybody cry. I'm not putting anybody on the no fly list. 2:02:43.560 --> 2:02:46.680 I did that, but I do like people to just 2:02:46.880 --> 2:02:50.240 understand I'm really just trying to lighten up somebody's day 2:02:50.280 --> 2:02:50.880 and get a laugh. 2:02:51.200 --> 2:02:53.680 I'm sure you got so much wisdom from Joan. 2:02:53.920 --> 2:02:55.800 Is there something that you think about all the time, 2:02:55.960 --> 2:02:59.680 or like a piece of advice that has, yeah, that 2:02:59.760 --> 2:03:00.320 you've thought of. 2:03:00.320 --> 2:03:00.920 For a long Yeah. 2:03:01.040 --> 2:03:05.680 Business. It showed business. So we talked about finances a lot. 2:03:06.440 --> 2:03:10.680 And you know, Joan was loaded, and people underestimated her 2:03:10.760 --> 2:03:14.320 at every turn, and she had so many lives she had, 2:03:14.960 --> 2:03:18.360 you know, after her own husband took his life, she 2:03:18.560 --> 2:03:20.720 took time off and then she did a Broadway show 2:03:20.840 --> 2:03:23.080 and people were like, oh wow, she's a really good actress. 2:03:23.760 --> 2:03:27.520 And when she was kind of blacklisted from nighttime, she 2:03:27.720 --> 2:03:30.560 went and had a daytime show and won an Emmy. 2:03:31.120 --> 2:03:34.560 People forget that she was the center square on Hollywood Squares, 2:03:35.000 --> 2:03:37.880 where you then have to cast eight people around you, 2:03:38.600 --> 2:03:41.760 and they all knew Joan might say whatever she felt 2:03:41.840 --> 2:03:45.440 like saying. So watching her be the cat with nine 2:03:45.520 --> 2:03:50.040 lives and bounce back every time I've been certainly looking 2:03:50.120 --> 2:03:53.120 up in heaven and hearing her because having been through 2:03:53.240 --> 2:03:56.320 now you know, cancer and addiction and I'm going through 2:03:56.320 --> 2:03:59.880 a divorce and all this stuff. And I remember, you know, 2:04:00.280 --> 2:04:03.080 her sayings like she would say, you know, we all 2:04:03.160 --> 2:04:06.080 make our own deals, Like you never know what somebody 2:04:06.120 --> 2:04:08.720 to deal is in life. You might think they're one way, 2:04:09.400 --> 2:04:12.440 but you don't know that it turns out that this 2:04:12.600 --> 2:04:16.960 person hasn't been working because they have a special needs 2:04:17.720 --> 2:04:20.120 daughter that they're taking care of, like you know what. 2:04:20.440 --> 2:04:23.440 And she always had that perspective. While she was being 2:04:23.560 --> 2:04:26.120 as naughty as she wanted to be, she still was 2:04:26.400 --> 2:04:30.040 very serious about the business of comedy, the money part 2:04:30.080 --> 2:04:32.440 of it, but also the seriousness and the art of it. 2:04:32.920 --> 2:04:35.280 And I admit I'm a bit of a snob. I 2:04:35.480 --> 2:04:39.080 really think stand up is a serious art form and 2:04:39.200 --> 2:04:41.840 I take it seriously, and I like the ones who 2:04:41.880 --> 2:04:45.680 take it really seriously. And I also I also don't 2:04:46.000 --> 2:04:49.440 believe that you're a real comic if you can't do 2:04:49.560 --> 2:04:52.920 your own material. So like we would talk about comedians 2:04:53.320 --> 2:04:55.880 they would get specials and they didn't even write their 2:04:55.920 --> 2:04:59.480 special So just like you come it, you're you know, 2:05:00.080 --> 2:05:04.040 so we would be very snobby and talk smack about everybody, 2:05:04.640 --> 2:05:07.120 and that was, you know, was more fun than that. 2:05:07.320 --> 2:05:10.080 Wait, as we were talking, a message pops up from 2:05:10.120 --> 2:05:12.600 Pam Lowshack, saying, how you do two and a half 2:05:12.640 --> 2:05:14.080 hours with one and a half lungs? 2:05:14.520 --> 2:05:17.440 I had lung cancer even though I never smoked, and 2:05:17.600 --> 2:05:20.600 so they took out half of my left lung. And 2:05:20.800 --> 2:05:24.400 so I should actually say I'm not just the only 2:05:24.560 --> 2:05:28.080 female comic to play Carnegie Hall six times, I'm the 2:05:28.200 --> 2:05:31.520 only one and a half lung female comic to do 2:05:31.600 --> 2:05:34.400 a lot of things. God damn, So, I don't like 2:05:34.480 --> 2:05:37.520 the way you two girls are flaunting your two lungs 2:05:37.560 --> 2:05:38.640 in my face right now. 2:05:39.080 --> 2:05:39.480 I get it. 2:05:39.560 --> 2:05:40.520 You're so superior. 2:05:41.000 --> 2:05:43.040 Well, I'm gonna see you at Carnegie Hall. I opened 2:05:43.080 --> 2:05:45.760 it up, please please do so. I can't wait. 2:05:45.960 --> 2:05:47.760 This was all right, I'm not, by the way, I'm 2:05:47.800 --> 2:05:50.000 not thumping you. So this is a hint. No, I. 2:05:51.840 --> 2:05:52.880 Feel like you're no. 2:05:53.160 --> 2:05:57.120 I can tell the look on your face, the answous No, Pam, Pam. 2:05:57.320 --> 2:06:00.560 It's a hard pass. These bitches can pay, just like 2:06:01.360 --> 2:06:04.120 it comes out of my back end. And god damn it, 2:06:04.240 --> 2:06:05.160 no comps, no. 2:06:05.560 --> 2:06:09.720 No fucking comps. Thank you so amazing, Kathy. This was 2:06:09.760 --> 2:06:12.480 a dream, so amazing. 2:06:13.200 --> 2:06:14.560 Tells you guys are awesome. 2:06:18.760 --> 2:06:21.240 That was insane. I did have to grab a white claw, 2:06:21.560 --> 2:06:23.240 like I didn't know how to handle. I have to 2:06:23.280 --> 2:06:23.760 calm down. 2:06:24.440 --> 2:06:27.120 I mean, I want to people that are sober handle 2:06:27.160 --> 2:06:29.400 all their emotions and energy, like I truly don't even know. 2:06:29.840 --> 2:06:31.120 I couldn't even sit still. 2:06:31.960 --> 2:06:36.600 I it really is just such a pivotal moment to 2:06:37.000 --> 2:06:40.120 meet her because we missed I didn't meet Joan Rivers. 2:06:40.240 --> 2:06:42.400 That's someone that I always thought I would meet or 2:06:42.640 --> 2:06:45.800 you know, there's these icons, and to be able to 2:06:45.880 --> 2:06:49.960 meet such an icon, Yeah, that gave so much. I 2:06:50.000 --> 2:06:52.200 mean she she gave us all the bits. No, not 2:06:52.400 --> 2:06:55.880 one person we've ever interviewed just straight up has all 2:06:56.000 --> 2:06:57.560 the all, like just. 2:06:58.040 --> 2:06:58.520 Had at it. 2:06:59.080 --> 2:07:02.800 No, and like I love that everybody that we talked to, 2:07:03.000 --> 2:07:04.760 I mean, I love every person we've talked to. We've 2:07:04.760 --> 2:07:09.160 had great interviews. She's an amazing, well oiled machine. I 2:07:09.200 --> 2:07:11.120 had a great time on set. They made me feel welcome. 2:07:11.280 --> 2:07:13.480 Kathy Griffin's not afraid to be like, No, I was 2:07:13.680 --> 2:07:17.040 fucking up, actually, Like it was really intense. It was 2:07:17.200 --> 2:07:19.520 I was out of my depth. Here's who helped me, 2:07:19.720 --> 2:07:21.960 Here's how I got through it. Like, I just love 2:07:22.040 --> 2:07:25.040 that her whole career is kind of not ever about 2:07:25.080 --> 2:07:28.840 apologizing really for herself, and always about just. 2:07:29.800 --> 2:07:33.160 Fucking telling the truth. She really is one of our best. 2:07:34.040 --> 2:07:36.040 And yeah, I love it. 2:07:36.160 --> 2:07:38.160 Even when she's talking about her photo, the photo that 2:07:38.200 --> 2:07:40.400 she got in trouble for, She's like, it's a protest photo. 2:07:40.520 --> 2:07:42.560 Some people thought it was funny, some people didn't. She's 2:07:42.600 --> 2:07:44.400 not like I wish I never did it, you know, 2:07:44.640 --> 2:07:47.480 she's like she stands by it. You know, she's a 2:07:47.560 --> 2:07:49.160 fucking icon. 2:07:49.960 --> 2:07:53.400 Of perneerance and integrity and integrity, and. 2:07:54.960 --> 2:07:57.360 While people don't think she does because like reality d 2:07:57.480 --> 2:08:01.160 List like all of that at the time didn as 2:08:01.240 --> 2:08:03.920 huge as it is now. And just being there for 2:08:04.000 --> 2:08:06.840 the gay community without like painting a rainbow on your head, 2:08:06.880 --> 2:08:08.760 you know, it wasn't the goal as like I'm gonna 2:08:08.760 --> 2:08:10.840 do this for the gaze, but it was very much 2:08:10.960 --> 2:08:13.120 like a safe space for a gaze. 2:08:13.680 --> 2:08:16.640 And I'm sorry, Like, as a woman, I grow and 2:08:16.960 --> 2:08:18.920 like I've always been into celebrity gossip. 2:08:19.000 --> 2:08:20.760 That's mostly what her material is about. 2:08:20.920 --> 2:08:23.760 And I think she gets discounted because of it because 2:08:23.840 --> 2:08:25.720 people need you to do a full hour about I 2:08:25.760 --> 2:08:29.080 don't know, fucking pizza roles or whatever, like people need 2:08:29.160 --> 2:08:32.000 you to do a full hour about something else. I 2:08:32.080 --> 2:08:33.920 think it's great that that's what she focuses on, but 2:08:33.960 --> 2:08:35.240 I think it's like why a lot of people have 2:08:35.320 --> 2:08:39.720 discounted her because she talks about quote unquote like female 2:08:39.960 --> 2:08:44.480 and like gay stuff, which celebrity gossip falls into, you know. 2:08:46.040 --> 2:08:49.560 Yeah, and it also felt I mean not positive, but 2:08:49.800 --> 2:08:52.640 validating and be like, no, stand up is still filled 2:08:52.640 --> 2:08:56.000 with misogynists and you know, assholes everywhere, and that it 2:08:56.080 --> 2:08:58.400 hasn't really changed, even though I do think it has 2:08:58.960 --> 2:09:01.160 in terms of there's more women, you can wear what 2:09:01.240 --> 2:09:02.560 you want, you can talk about what you want. 2:09:03.160 --> 2:09:03.520 Yeah, not. 2:09:05.120 --> 2:09:10.440 But definitely still Oh I mean no sexist. Yeah. 2:09:10.920 --> 2:09:12.840 I think what I'm saying is like, the reason why 2:09:12.880 --> 2:09:14.520 I think that people don't put her up there with 2:09:14.680 --> 2:09:17.280 like the greats as much as they should is. 2:09:17.360 --> 2:09:19.600 Because sexism and her sexism. 2:09:19.960 --> 2:09:23.160 Yeah, I've always loved her. I cried when her mom died. 2:09:23.200 --> 2:09:24.560 I don't want to tell her that in the interview, 2:09:24.680 --> 2:09:26.880 but I cried when Maggie. 2:09:26.640 --> 2:09:28.400 And she's so cool that I forgot about the lies 2:09:28.440 --> 2:09:29.840 of Menelly. When you brought it up, I go, oh 2:09:29.880 --> 2:09:32.480 my god, I can't believe. Yeah, she's so powerful that 2:09:32.560 --> 2:09:34.320 I'm like, oh, yeah, you talk to Liza Menelli and. 2:09:34.400 --> 2:09:35.560 What I mean? 2:09:35.680 --> 2:09:37.560 I think, honestly, we've all been waiting for the phrase 2:09:37.600 --> 2:09:39.880 Liza Minelli's vagina to be on our podcast, and we 2:09:39.960 --> 2:09:42.360 may happen today, and that's what I'm really excited about. 2:09:42.840 --> 2:09:46.040 But I mean, let's move on to a post mortem 2:09:46.120 --> 2:09:48.200 of the episode, because I'm. 2:09:48.160 --> 2:09:49.640 Just going, wait, no, I do want to say one 2:09:49.640 --> 2:09:52.040 more thing. Oh yeah, so you know how Robin Williams 2:09:52.080 --> 2:09:55.520 set her up? Yeah, I was set up like that once. 2:09:56.040 --> 2:09:56.920 I did not read. 2:09:57.400 --> 2:09:58.880 I think it was of my cement, but I didn't 2:09:58.920 --> 2:10:00.640 read the chapters you were supposed read. And so I 2:10:00.680 --> 2:10:03.280 asked this guy Dennis, I go, fuck, did you read it? 2:10:03.520 --> 2:10:06.000 He goes yes, and there's a worksheep. 2:10:07.120 --> 2:10:08.720 I go, what kind of dog? What's this? What's that? 2:10:08.800 --> 2:10:10.880 What's He gave me everything? Fake? 2:10:11.680 --> 2:10:16.320 And I failed the assignment, but I didn't read. But 2:10:16.400 --> 2:10:18.360 I just trusted this guy. And then at lunch or 2:10:18.360 --> 2:10:19.920 wherever I come down, I'm like, what the fuck And 2:10:20.000 --> 2:10:21.880 he was just like laughing. I was like what kind 2:10:21.920 --> 2:10:23.760 of dog is it? And he was like a white, 2:10:23.760 --> 2:10:26.320 little fluffy, fun one and it was like I think 2:10:26.360 --> 2:10:27.960 it was on a you know, like an Old Yeller 2:10:28.040 --> 2:10:32.000 style dog situation or something like please. But I did 2:10:32.080 --> 2:10:34.880 get fucked over, But I love that Robin Williams fucked 2:10:34.880 --> 2:10:37.640 her up like that. But I it's like they did 2:10:37.760 --> 2:10:39.840 use the take where she was improvising, So to me, 2:10:40.000 --> 2:10:42.600 it's like why. It's like if someone's like, hey. 2:10:42.520 --> 2:10:44.960 Can you do clean? I go no, why would you? 2:10:45.080 --> 2:10:47.120 I sure I can't. Why would you want me to 2:10:47.240 --> 2:10:47.480 do that? 2:10:47.720 --> 2:10:47.880 Right? 2:10:48.600 --> 2:10:50.400 I'm kind of surprised that she was saying that too 2:10:50.440 --> 2:10:52.880 about Maloney being so stiff about the improv because like 2:10:53.160 --> 2:10:55.520 he's done Wet Hot, he's worked with all these comedians, 2:10:55.560 --> 2:10:57.400 like he likes to do comedy, so I guess it's 2:10:57.480 --> 2:11:00.000 just he compartmentalizes, Like when I do comedy, we can improvide, 2:11:00.080 --> 2:11:02.640 but when I'm on SVU, we stick to the fucking script. 2:11:03.160 --> 2:11:07.720 But I love it, And it's the extra direction from Marishkatz, 2:11:07.760 --> 2:11:09.720 like it is just so formula, like you have to 2:11:09.840 --> 2:11:12.520 move and hate your marks and like do exactly what 2:11:12.680 --> 2:11:14.320 they need because they're on a time crunch. 2:11:14.640 --> 2:11:19.080 Yeah, Yeah, they have a dramatic story to tell. I 2:11:19.200 --> 2:11:20.960 thought she did great. I thought she's I think she's 2:11:21.040 --> 2:11:23.560 excellent in this episode. Babs Duffy is maybe a top 2:11:23.680 --> 2:11:26.520 ten guest star character for me for sure. Okay, should 2:11:26.520 --> 2:11:28.839 we move on to this the post mortem of the episode. 2:11:28.920 --> 2:11:31.360 I mean, I don't know what my thoughts are. Don't 2:11:31.360 --> 2:11:34.000 be pissed that lesbians are moving into your neighborhood. They're 2:11:34.280 --> 2:11:38.240 only making it better. Every neighborhood, basically in New York 2:11:38.280 --> 2:11:40.480 City or Los Angeles that gay people have taken over 2:11:40.600 --> 2:11:45.000 has only become a better, more fun with better, busier, 2:11:45.640 --> 2:11:49.720 cleaner area of town. You should not be murdering people 2:11:49.960 --> 2:11:52.960 or assaulting them because of that. But obviously that man 2:11:53.040 --> 2:11:58.120 had deeper problems also, but also just big apple aggressive 2:11:58.160 --> 2:12:01.000 anywhere you go get your age. I don't care if 2:12:01.040 --> 2:12:04.160 you're a lesbian or not. You can't just go out 2:12:04.160 --> 2:12:07.160 there punching people. Yeah, I'm sorry your girlfriend died, but 2:12:07.200 --> 2:12:09.920 you're not allowed to cold call Christopher Maloney out of nowhere. 2:12:10.000 --> 2:12:12.280 Though it does, it has provided one of the funniest 2:12:12.760 --> 2:12:16.360 Maloney knockouts of my of my life, which I have 2:12:16.600 --> 2:12:20.800 made a I have made a montage punched out, this is. 2:12:20.800 --> 2:12:22.120 The best podcast ever. 2:12:24.840 --> 2:12:27.520 Let's move to we wouldn't give as much space possible 2:12:27.600 --> 2:12:30.080 for the Kathy interview because it's just the fucking best 2:12:30.160 --> 2:12:31.200 and we talked to her for an hour. 2:12:31.680 --> 2:12:33.680 Uh So, this week's what would Sister Peggy Go? 2:12:33.800 --> 2:12:37.520 And just to reiterate, do not steal blood for your 2:12:37.560 --> 2:12:38.840 boyfriend from the blood bank. 2:12:39.240 --> 2:12:39.960 Are you kidding? 2:12:40.520 --> 2:12:41.840 He's worried about getting HIV. 2:12:41.960 --> 2:12:44.640 I guess he can't be a fucking vampire, then don't yeh, 2:12:44.880 --> 2:12:48.160 don't risk your job for a fucking man or a vampire. 2:12:48.480 --> 2:12:50.760 I did watch Abigail again and it is so good. 2:12:50.960 --> 2:12:51.640 It's so good. 2:12:51.760 --> 2:12:54.240 You have Oh I see the picture of the little 2:12:54.280 --> 2:12:56.600 girl in her tuto and there's like blood splattered on it. 2:12:56.840 --> 2:13:01.400 That's like the thumbnail. Okay, So for this week, what 2:13:01.440 --> 2:13:02.200 would Sister peg Do? 2:13:02.440 --> 2:13:04.720 This is our weekly segment where we direct you to 2:13:04.960 --> 2:13:07.080 some kind of resource that will give you more information 2:13:07.120 --> 2:13:09.839 about what we talked to about in the episode today. 2:13:10.360 --> 2:13:11.680 And we wanted to point you this week to the 2:13:11.720 --> 2:13:16.000 documentary The Lesbian Avengers Eat Fire II. The film covers 2:13:16.040 --> 2:13:18.560 the first year of action by the Lesbian Avengers and 2:13:18.640 --> 2:13:20.720 it is only fifty six minutes and it's on YouTube, 2:13:20.840 --> 2:13:23.800 so we will link to that in our stories from 2:13:23.920 --> 2:13:25.600 the day this episode came out, and that will always 2:13:25.600 --> 2:13:28.800 be saved in our WWSPD highlight forever. 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