WEBVTT - Mike. 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:04.880 Are we rolling ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Busting with 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:08.039 the Boys Episode one six. 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:13.280 Kind of fucking not so many as in one hundred 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:14.840 and forty seven, but we've done a lot these last 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:15.280 couple of weeks. 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:17.880 Yeah, there's been so many. 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Yeah, I was hurting, and I'm thinking of 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.880 myself too, Like you, you've the last few times like 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.000 you've done a great job. You've like read them before, 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:32.519 so then you just knock it out of the plor 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:34.919 that one you went straight back to the always say 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.680 no looking, no nothing, just look right at the uh. 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:39.320 Look right at the screen and try to read it 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.080 all super tough. 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:41.639 That was fun. 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:42.680 It was very difficult. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:44.799 But I still believe in the Chevy Soeverrado, and I 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:46.560 knew the whole time I was reading it. I was like, hey, 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.520 might look like an absolute fucking idiot right now. At 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.760 least you're doing God's work with the Chevy Silverrado. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:53.960 I think people are gonna enjoy it. I think people 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.000 enjoy stuff like that more. That's me personally, Like if 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.000 I'm listening, I'm giggling the whole time. Everyone likes making 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:00.280 fun of an idiot. You know what I'm saying here, 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:01.600 I am soaked me in. 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.120 The draft day. Draft day is coming up. 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.600 I know it's I'm stoked about it since it's Wednesday 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:07.400 that everybody's listening. 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:07.920 The draft day. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.840 Draft days Thursday, right, Jeff, is a week from Thursday. 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.720 Oh so we still got a week here, We still 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:14.600 got a week this week. 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:19.720 No, it's uh this way, that's the mind. 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:24.639 I'm like, carry the one, bro, God fucking energy is 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:26.520 a little different in here right now. Well you say 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:27.360 that just because I don't know. 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.680 I think it's sause I'm tired and I'm quitting Zen's 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:31.160 right now? 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.080 Yeah, yeah, why why are you quitting? 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:34.560 Dude? 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:36.560 No joke, I was. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.480 It was yesterday, it was Easter, and I'm I put 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.760 my daughter to sleep, and I had four fucking two 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:43.440 top deck, two bottom deck. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.400 And I'm like, I gotta sit down. I'm like I 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:46.000 gotta go do this. 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:46.880 And I was like I don't. 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.320 Really want to, and I'm like, fuck this, dude, Why 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.960 am I doing this? Ship and went over trash can 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:54.640 dumped him out and I was like, I'm fucking dumb 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:58.240 with zins, flushed the toilet, take the can, throw it outside, 0:03:58.280 --> 0:03:59.360 then went and got it and threw it in the 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:03.000 trash can, and then like three hours went by, gonna 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.160 let let's unpackt it. That seems like a bit of 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:06.840 a deal. You just snapped all of a sudden, All 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:08.240 of a sudden, I get dude, I did. I did 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.080 that with chew I did that with pretty much just 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.240 chew proof. And then the four other times I quit 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:13.800 Zens too. 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:14.800 Is uh. 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.200 I've always like it's like I'm doing it, everything's all good. 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:18.440 And I was a sudden like why am I doing this? 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.520 I should not be doing this. I just stopped. 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.080 You don't think you'll get back once you around the 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:27.080 boys in the facility? No, No, All I have to 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:28.320 do is get past these next three days. 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:29.920 And I'm straight, but I will tell you I feel 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:31.520 a little foggy behind the eyes, and I feel a 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.799 little irritated and a little more tired. Oh so it's tough. 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.840 It's tough, but I had to last what forty eight 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:41.560 more hours? And then I also hate the fact of 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:45.960 being like something controlling me. I can't stand that something 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:47.440 has a hold of me the way it does. 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:49.719 Right now, like this ends, you're saying the zens have 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:50.960 so much power over you, you have. 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:52.880 So much power over me, And I just gotta take 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.040 that power away. I love that, you know what I'm saying. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.440 It was, but that was a That's probably why my 0:04:58.480 --> 0:04:59.159 mood is the way it is. 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:04.120 Right now, Let's say this though, How is this done? Yeah, 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:05.400 you'll ever do it again? 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:05.880 No? 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.560 Never, you know what I mean. You already said you quit. 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:14.200 I will for sure not do it until twenty twenty three. 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:16.160 Three. 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:17.520 Yeah, you're saying it will be longer than that, but 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:19.400 you never know if you're just like yeah, I mean, 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:20.120 let me get she. 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.280 Was saying never because it's so difficult and it's so 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.320 easy to get trapped into these motherfuckers. 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.400 Dude, it's fucking you're. 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.520 Taking the power back. You're taking the power back. I'm 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.760 taking the power back. That is true, and I appreciate 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:31.960 you just seeing my truth. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.320 Yeah, I think that's awesome. I think that's also when 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.080 you're quitting. Yeah, like my dad, when he quits suf, 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:37.640 he goes cold turkey. I know I've said it before, 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.200 but when he quits you obviously he now choose again. 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:42.720 But when she's the hardest thing to quit. 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:44.760 Yeah, when he quit one time, it was cold turkey 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:49.000 and he would literally take raw oats, raw oatmeal. The 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:50.880 oats and put in his lip because you just apparently 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:52.480 like everybody, they just gotta have some in their lip. 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.800 Yeah, there's an oral fixation you have that you have there. 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.280 It's like you're so used to doing one thing, fucking oats. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.320 It's really not that crazy of an idea. I've heard 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.960 people putting grass in their in their mouth, just like 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.560 actually taking grass from the ground. No, when I quit chew, 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.200 I just fucking I was like, I'm done, because I 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.480 remember when I was in Brandington, California, Brandington, Florida at 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:15.880 IMG Academy and me and Zach Mettenberger had this gallon 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.840 of a gallon of water that I drank on the 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:19.479 way down there, and. 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.680 I kept it, who's your girlfriend? At the time, I 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:24.800 was dating Reagan. Why does that matter? 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.240 Because every story you have you always have this just 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.200 this girl, that first and last name that you always 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.120 just I know, I was always relationship, but I actually 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:32.919 wasn't dating Ringgan. It was one of the funny to me, 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:34.320 it was one of the very short one of the 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:35.919 very short times in my life I was single. 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:38.000 I me and Karen just broke up. 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:39.960 Me and Ring're kind of talking, but that wasn't really 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.680 a thing, and uh, I had this gallon of water, 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.120 and what basically what I did was, uh, I would 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.039 chew and I would spit in that gawn of water. 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.360 And I filled that fucking gallon of water all the 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:53.080 way up with my chew and my spit. It was disgusting. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.400 But it took me like it took me, like, Bro, 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.520 no joke, two weeks, not very long at all, if 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.159 that's the true, you know what I'm saying. 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:02.800 And so weeks to fill it up. 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:04.640 Two weeks filled up. It's just got to the top. 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.039 I was like, I'm done, and I was. I just 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:07.720 stopped doing it. 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.960 Bro, There's nothing more disgusting than having one of those 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.240 homies that have all their fucking spinners sitting around. 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.120 Bro especial an office of line thing too. 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.240 God, you get in the car or something, somebody leaves 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.680 are spitner in there. Oh my fucking god. I just 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:24.560 remembered one time I took it. I fucking drank out 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:25.560 of my dad's spinner once. 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:26.280 How gross. 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.920 Oh, if fucking wanted to come on, So this is like, well, 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:30.360 this is like a couple of years ago, It's not 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:30.880 that long ago. 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.040 He starts with, Oh, my fucking God, and then goes, oh, 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:34.200 I want to kill myself. 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.720 Bro, it was you know what I'm saying, Like, imagine that, 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.120 like you just grab a fucking spinner you think it's 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:41.600 I don't know what the fuck I thought it was. 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:43.880 And I took a big swig and I, oh my, 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.120 I just realized this. My dad's fucking spit in. It 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:48.720 hurts my stomach just to hear you talk about it 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:49.000 right now. 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.760 Fucking disgusting and you spit it out. 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:53.720 But you want to gag yourself and just puke whatever 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:54.960 the fuck is even in your stomach. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.360 Yeah, especially because you if you haven't, if you don't 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.400 have tobacco and nicotina in your system already to put 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.400 that in there, you're asking to throw up basically. 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.800 That's bro. You're asking for what kind of house cleaning 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:07.480 we got? I know, we know we've got a lot 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:08.200 of stuff coming up. 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.000 One big thing is the Boys have finally hit their 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.560 last final tour of the Bust and Spring Tour, which 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.080 was absolutely huge. Yeah, we went to uh, we were 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.080 in Nebraska, and then we were in Michigan and then 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:22.000 now this past Wednesday. So you guys listening to this 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.640 right now. A week ago we were there. We went 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.600 and uh saw the facilities at the University of Tennessee 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:28.520 and Knoxville, Tennessee. 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:30.000 It was beautiful. 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:30.200 Oh. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.240 Like I said before, I think I've said this oorng 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.400 is not my color. I don't think oreg is a 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:34.840 cool color. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:36.559 I'm not a big fan of it. I went there 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.400 and I fucking loved it. I thought it was outstanding. 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.800 I thought the the coaches were great. I think your 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:44.400 boy Eckler was awesome. I think Coach Hype was great. 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:46.840 I think watching those guys just kind of grind through 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:48.520 it and the way they led us into the facility 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:52.640 and on the practice field was amazing. But we got uh, 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:56.200 it's already premiered, you guys, it's already happened. But the Hogs, 0:08:56.240 --> 0:09:00.880 we had two offense linemen on there, Cooper Mays and 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.120 Jerome what Carvin Carvin so and I've heard a lot 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.280 of good things about Jerome. Yeah, he heard good things 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:07.719 about Cooper too, but I weren't on the street. Is 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:09.199 that Jerome kid's gonna be a bit of a stud. 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:10.880 So if you guys just want to jump over there 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.480 and listen to that. We also have coach Coach v 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.280 who's playing at play at six pm tonight. 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:17.680 What's Monday right now? 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:18.640 How you guys will know it's already? 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:20.040 How funny is it? 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.440 Bro he got kicked out of the game, I say, 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:26.480 in the first inning, first out of him. 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:27.280 It was awesome. 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.360 Put his dick it right up on him, right up 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.200 on him, dude. I think it's hilarious that coaches also 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.319 wear the uniform. I wish they did that in football too. Yeah, 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:39.120 Rabel Shiller pads on his ship, thipads and thigh pads. 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:40.760 Getting mad at him for not wearing the thigh pads. 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.600 A little spillage. But I think Coach v was awesome. Uh, 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.760 Coach Hypel, he was awesome. I think every volunteer fan, 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:49.199 we obviously have a lot of them based on where 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.600 we're at geographically on this earth. 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.280 I think you guys are really gonna enjoy him. He 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:53.839 was great. 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:59.040 Very uh, very sec ford, very sec forward guy. 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:00.000 He was baked. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.679 I'm coach Eckler is Yeah, man's fit for a straight check. 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.640 Let's just be totally honest. That guy he is. He is, 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.760 He's a crazy animal. By the time else comes out, 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:11.400 what's what's going. 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:11.760 To be out? 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.480 Everything's out? Everything you're listening right now. All the interviews 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:16.520 are out, So I was just making sure because I 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:18.920 knew that two were premiering today, which is Monday, but 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.040 the other two are gonna be pre premiering on Tuesday. 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.920 Yeah, Monday, Monday evening. They're all out, So go check 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:25.840 all that shit out. You want to help the boys out, 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:32.640 please continue if you're on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, unsubscribed, 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.960 resubscribe or unfollow, refollow, whatever the whatever it is now 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.520 and on YouTube, please make sure to subscribe to the boys. 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.000 That's what helps us out a lot. Uh, but great 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.600 interviews we thought, I know are under the hood that'll 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.560 come out tomorrow. You're listening on Wednesday. The Underhood will 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:48.680 come out? Is it tomorrow? Right on Thursday? 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.199 A lot of house slanning items, a lot of house 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:51.720 splanning ours. 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:53.720 Either way, under the hood will be out. 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.000 But we had there's a consensus we thought these interviews 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:56.760 were the best ones. 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.640 I do think it's hilarious. It's right that guesses we 0:10:59.640 --> 0:10:59.920 all talked. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.160 But yeah, I do think it's hilarious that coach v Is. 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.760 We joked about his mean streak and him being Italian. 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:07.839 He can't help it. He just yeah, yeah, it's fucking mad. 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.600 And now he suspended for four games. So he's suspended 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.520 as we're dropping this pod right now. 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:14.760 But go check all that shit out. It was awesome. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:16.080 We had a lot of fun. 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.200 One last thing that I'm doing a lot of stuff 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.160 is I'm a fucking. 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:21.280 Tennessee volunteer baseball fan. 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.920 Now, oh yeah, I have, and my emotions in my 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.000 heart can be bought in this stage of my life 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.960 where I am with baseball real quickly. But as that 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.160 stands right now, I am a volunteer baseball fan. Yeah, 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.080 I say we when I talk about our baseball games. 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:36.800 That's how fucking invested I am. Right now, I want 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:38.559 those boys to go all the way. It is donkeyed 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.959 Alabama's bitch ass twelve to three or something like that. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.280 Look Alabama, dude, with football, you nerds. 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:50.480 Also, what about Sunday Live Show? That's right, this Sundays 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.320 life though it doesn't even matter, that's true. I need 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:54.160 to promote. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:57.480 Sunday Live show. Will Will and Taylor have done zero 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.679 preparation for the show. I know, I know what we're 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.160 gonna do. Hopefully this zen hangover gets out of here 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:05.440 before I can fucking that. 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:07.360 We got forty eight hours. 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:09.640 We have forty ho what are you talking about? Forty 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:10.959 eight hours for you to get out of your fit, 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:12.240 for you to get Yeah. 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:13.720 Yeah, let's hope to God. Let's hope to God. 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:18.080 But yeah, absolutely the live shows Zany's This Sunday gonna 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.199 be very cool. It might be trash also, but we're 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:21.920 gonna absolutely love it and embrace. 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:22.080 The whole time. 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.480 Fucking laugh your asses off. It's gonna be a blast. 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.480 And if you if it's not funny and your Tier one, 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.880 laugh extra fucking heart at our jokes. 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:31.360 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I love God. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.480 Please we should have some fun stuff that we got. 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.000 We have ideas we've talked about, but we truly have 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:37.480 not done fucking dick for it. 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:38.120 Uh. 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.600 Another announcement because this bus and Spring Torn stuff has 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:45.240 went so well, you guys, Oh, not a lot of 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:48.560 drop off from listening to our normal drop hours of 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.520 every Wednesday to all the busts and Spring interviews because 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:51.920 we dropped. 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:53.440 They can't waitload of them wait to hear what you're 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:53.880 gonna say. 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.000 But the boys are bringing you a bonus episode starting 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:58.040 the first week of May. 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.319 We're no, We're not doing bonus episodes. 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Yeah, cm cud that's CCM. 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.640 But now, as always our favorite segment of the week. 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.680 One of our favorite segments of the week is shout 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:17.240 out no free Shadow of the Week. Let's go boys, 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:21.680 absolutely excited for yet another week of this. As always, 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.320 will start in the back back left corner. 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.200 It's got JP. What is your shout out? No free 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:25.880 shadow of the week? 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.680 My shout out no free shout out of the week 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:31.920 comes thanks to uh Will. He's been tweeting a lot 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:37.440 about pooping recently. Yeah, and I guess it was yesterday. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.120 So on Sunday night I was pooping, I didn't have 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.400 a lot of toilet paper left, and also I didn't 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:44.520 have any in like the you know, wherever you put 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.480 it in the cabinet, and I had a one wiper 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.520 really no free shout out to the one wiper. 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:51.880 Yeah, thoses bro. 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:54.600 When you get one in there, clean you sandpaper and 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.280 you're like, oh, this Sh'S really right, It just really 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:58.160 goes wiper down here. 0:15:58.240 --> 0:15:58.440 Yeah. 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.200 It almost makes you feel like sometimes when you have 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.040 a good poop and you feel like it is a ghotwiper. 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.360 Why should I even waste this toilet paper? Right now? 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:08.040 You still do sometimes you still what? Oh do you 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.280 like to risk standing up Chris cheeks and move on? 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:12.320 You don't like to do nothing? 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:17.120 You got the risks. Yeah, that was. 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.680 An outstanding shout out and no free shadow of the 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:20.760 week Jackie. 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.840 Baby mine kind of goes off my first week that 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.280 eating out a loan. But I was at a party 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.320 this weekend and hit a little Irish exit and my 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:31.040 shout out is the Irish exit. 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:32.800 I always I love it. 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:36.320 I hate when motherfucker's Irish exit on me. It feels personal, 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.600 but I do it. I'm like my slide under the radar. 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.880 You home, you know it's it's eleven pm. 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:43.760 You got out of there. 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:45.720 It didn't have to say about to ten people. It 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:47.960 just kind of mentally saves you a little bit of, 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:49.080 you know, room. 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.320 And it can be also awkward sometimes when you're trying 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:52.640 to like when you're trying to go and you got 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.360 to dap people up and the dap up goes wrong. 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:55.320 I'll see you later. 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:58.240 You're hugging people and you stay goodbye and then you 0:16:58.240 --> 0:16:59.760 go do something. You come back and you stick it 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:01.880 by guess like we've already fucking done this. I had 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:04.000 a buddy back in high schools. Name is Robert Mugie. Guys, 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:08.720 outstanding individual, hilariously very hands the blaze and uh he 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.480 was he I think it might have been the og. 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:13.200 If the Irish could buy in high school, we would 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.159 be like, Hey, we're going out tonight. We're gonna go 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.200 eight cars whatever whatever dumb shit we're gonna do in 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:18.919 high school and be all right, cool, I'll meet you 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.240 guys out. What time would be like ten o'clock? Be 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.440 all right, cool guy, We'll go home, go immediately to 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.080 sleep with zero intention of ever texting us telling us 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.560 he wasn't gonna make it or nothing at first. It 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:30.199 makes you mad when it happens to you, like you 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:33.119 said Jackie, but I kind of respect it. 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:34.880 Yeah, I kind of respect it does. 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.160 This saves a lot of time, bro like and then 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:38.919 you like you like, get to your boys that you 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.800 know wants you to stay. Like to me, if I'm 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:43.760 leaving somewhere, I would have a tough time fucking. I 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.720 don't want to tell Taylor By, I just want to leave. 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.160 That's that's because if I'm like, hey, I'm a here 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.440 man staying my residuals from Rob Muji. 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:52.480 Yeah, you gotta. 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:54.560 Then they give you reasons why you gotta stay, and 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.080 then you're kind of questioning yourself, and then you're like, 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:58.720 you know, maybe I'll stay a. 0:17:58.720 --> 0:17:59.960 Little bit longer. And then you're there a little bit 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:01.320 fucking longer, you know what I mean. 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:03.439 And as a friend who does that to all of 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.399 his friends, when you try to leave and I'm like, 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:07.040 you know, I'm just staying a little longer, you might 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:08.320 as well just let him leave in the first place, 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:09.320 because then in the back of your head you got 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:11.040 that anxiety like they're gonna leave any minute. 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.040 Make the most of it. What are you doing? And 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:14.840 you're thinking about it too much? You know what I'm saying, Yeah, 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:16.200 a bit of it's an honor. 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:17.840 When your boy comes up, you're like, hey, I'm about 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:19.720 to hit the Irish exgit. I was gonna say by 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:21.800 to you though, and you alone. So if one of 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:23.200 your boys hits you with that, you. 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.040 Gotta respect that. Ooh, it's truthe and you. 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:26.719 Gotta respect that. 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:27.400 What do you want to say? 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:28.600 I love that. 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:30.760 I love that. Fucking I'm gonna add that to the book. 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.120 I don't don't do that because I know, because that's 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.159 gonna be me. You're not gonna be the dud that 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:37.480 comes up to me and be just like, hey, I'm 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:38.479 gonna let you know, leave him. 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:40.760 When he said that, I only thought of you. I'm 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.639 saying goodbye to me only. Yeah, I'll just go up 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:43.960 to Taylor and just say that to Taylor. 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:46.600 Yeah, but you know how I get somebody, Hey, what 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:48.240 do you mean, like you'll whisper in my ear and 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:50.240 be a group of way what you mean? Yeah, listen, 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:51.760 I'm leaving anyway. I just want to let you know, 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.320 just to give you that respect. Oh, that would be 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:55.320 a good way to defuse me. 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:57.640 That's what I'm saying. I feel like that's a great diffuser. 0:18:57.760 --> 0:18:59.520 Like standing at the end of the day, the other 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:01.760 side has to let you go, like I fucking I 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:05.280 fuck with that dude. Yeah, I'll tell you what. It's 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:06.920 a good you love it. That's a great shout out. 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.560 That's a good shout out. No free shadow of the Week, William, What. 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:10.520 Do you got dude? Mine? 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:12.800 I thought you were gonna take it because mine's about 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:14.240 Mine's about some shit too. 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.680 Oh wait poop, Yeah, Mine's about some poop. 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:20.920 My shout out, no free shout out of the Week 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:26.119 is the fucking morning too. There's no better time to 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.560 take a shit. There's more, no more better time of 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:31.960 solidarity than having a morning. 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:33.919 Shit to yourself whether or not something's going on. 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:35.960 Like if you're at the facility, you know you're you're 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:38.240 in between the team meeting or going into position meetings, 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:40.720 and you just tell your coach your position coach, like, Hey, 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:42.240 I'm gonna go to the house of the restaurant real quick, 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:43.560 and then you go and hit the stall. You pull 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:45.720 your phone out and it lasts longer than it should. 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.320 You know what I mean or me currently you wake up, 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:50.159 baby's crying a little bit. Wife needs a little bit 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:51.399 of help, Like, hey, baby, you know I gotta go 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.280 hit my morning richie on my morning routine. 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:54.679 You're in there a little bit longer. 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.199 I feel like I have a even I appreciated the 0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:59.399 morning too a lot, but now I feel like I 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.720 have a different little appreciation for it as a new 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:02.920 father as well. 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:04.600 So my shout out, no free shout out of the 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.560 week goes to the morning too. Bro, I love that dude, 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:08.600 the morning two. 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:10.359 It starts a day off right, And if it doesn't 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:13.199 happen within I guess an hour or two hour buffer 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:13.879 of when it happens. 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:15.440 It kind of fucks the day. It really does. 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:17.440 Like you're kind of excited to do and you feel 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.080 your body, your body's used to the routine. Yeah, it's like, 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:21.400 you know, I've got to do this, so I'm gonna 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:22.880 be in a fucking bad mood. It's like somebody who 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:25.199 who's addicted to coffin. They don't get their coffee. It's 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:27.960 no deet your morning. Shit, dude, you're you're like you said, 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:30.080 You're thrown for a fucking loop. Like I'm not gonna 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:31.040 be on my best behavior. 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:31.920 Yeah. 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:33.680 I think that's an outstanding shot out of free shout 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:36.120 out of the week. My shout out no free shout 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:38.440 out of the week is uh. I don't know if 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:41.520 everybody's ever indulged in this or have, but in Arizona's 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:43.240 it's a really big deal and I do love it. 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:45.560 I think it's a very underrated quality drink that a 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:48.600 lot of people don't get very often. Is uh the 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:52.399 quick Trip slushies. I think quick Trip slushies. It's a 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:55.480 nice size of them, how many of a variety they have. 0:20:56.119 --> 0:21:01.320 I think it's an outstanding, underrated just middle of the 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:02.040 day Street. 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:03.200 You get that. 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:05.320 I mean, yeah, if you got diabetes, Jack, it's gonna 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:06.520 be a tough gig on your body. 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:12.600 I'm really yeah, that's awesome. You know that dude. 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:14.600 We were on the way back from way back from 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:16.399 Knoxville and I fucking got poked by one of his 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:17.320 used syringes. 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.360 Oh. I thought he's just doing drugs or something. No, hey, 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:22.200 I wish it was that easy. No, I had fucking 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:23.240 I had stabbed. 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:25.960 But I will say, when you the quick Trip, my 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:28.880 personal favorite is the horse shota. I think the horse 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:32.360 shot is outstanding, unbelievable. But you can do the suicide. 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:34.240 You hit them all. You have a bunch of different 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.359 colors in there. I think it's great. The one downfall 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:41.000 on the Quick Trip slushy or just slushes in general. 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:44.240 You've got to pace yourself when you drink them. 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:44.840 I agree. 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:47.880 You go too fast. You're gonna suck up all this syrup. 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.200 It's just gonna be ice. And that is a tough 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:52.919 pill to swallow. When you look at half of your 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:55.560 bottle full and you're like, I got nothing to do 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:57.760 with this, and ran at that point till you ran 0:21:57.800 --> 0:21:59.320 out of patience, Like you might wait for a minute, 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:00.520 But then you hurry up and at that straw. 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:02.199 Yeah, you take up that little bit of juice that. 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:04.200 You look here, get that day in wet wet. 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:04.800 You know what I'm saying. 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:06.240 I think I gotta be like liquid in there. 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:08.919 I'm telling you one thing I do want to comment on. 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:09.919 I don't this. 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.840 Maybe this is a this is not a Everybody might 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:16.760 not agree with this, but I think a suicide drink 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:19.960 is overrated, might. 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:23.600 Not be popular, paying I think that right right. My 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:25.840 young self was obsessed with like you just think you're 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:28.159 coming up with the best conglomerate, like your. 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:30.280 Boys doing a suicide. You're like, you guys ain't doing 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:30.639 it like me. 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:32.760 That's what it was when your kid, those like almost 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:35.119 your first chance to like your own decision, making your 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:36.080 own freedom. 0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:37.480 You like I'm. 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:41.040 But then once you get older, you know you've had 0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:43.679 you know, you get to start driving, you started meeting girls, 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:45.840 whatever it is, you got other decisions to take care of. 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:48.560 You just need one soft drink. You gotta limit that stuff. 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:50.280 So when you're a kid, when you only have so 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:52.480 many options in life, you just got to take them 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:53.159 all at the beginning. 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:57.200 Yeah, I agree, I agree. How it's overrated. Now, Yeah, 0:22:57.400 --> 0:22:59.919 that's fucking game. That's your bag, boys. 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:02.640 What an outstanding shout out, no free shadow, it really 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:06.080 was hand I love it, Due, I loved it. We'll 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:07.720 make it quick, easy and brisk, because this is a 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:10.720 very long podcast today, very long, very long hours. Aren't 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:12.920 hit three hours right now, even just doing this intro. 0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:15.639 But sort of, God, it's worth it. It's worth all 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:15.920 of your. 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:17.879 Fucking Oh it's so good, dude, it's it's and it 0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:19.760 hits a whole bunch of different array of things the 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:23.399 whole time. Just Mike, Mike formerly known as Mike Stugg, 0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:26.480 came on, brought his boy Skis on. We talk about music, 0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:29.000 we talk about life, we talk about la we talk 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:31.680 about him being nomad, and then we start talking about 0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:34.840 some philosophical type shit that really will warm your soul 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:38.520 and make you feel outstanding. And obviously we've talked quite 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:39.720 a bit, so you're gonna have to hear one more 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.240 ad Rey before the podcast hits. 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And then when we oh that 0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:45.040 fits nice. 0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:45.960 She looks nice. 0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:46.760 It does look see. 0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:48.600 I feel like I'm glowing right now. 0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:49.600 Thank you, thank you. 0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:52.280 Yeah, it's the first time he came on. I was like, 0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:53.480 let me see what the boy's up to, let me 0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:55.760 see what he's doing. I know before you're in Montana, 0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:57.399 you crused Arizona for a bit. I think this is 0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.960 your second. You're in Austin. Ye for a second state. 0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:02.639 So what's the idea behind this? 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:03.080 Is it? 0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:05.199 Is it for music or is it for and am 0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:06.680 I ready to put roots down? I want to find 0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:08.240 out what life's all about first, a. 0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:09.680 Little bit of everything, I think. 0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:14.080 So I spent six almost seven years in Los Angeles, 0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:18.520 which was arguably seven too many. Yeah, I'm not exactly 0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.399 like a Hollywood guy, La guy, but I was in 0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:24.040 that scene, and you know, obviously I make music, and 0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:29.320 throughout that time, like the progression of how I created 0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:32.720 music changed to where I felt it was a necessity 0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.680 to be there for So what I said was null 0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:37.760 and voy like I definitely should have been there for 0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:40.560 a certain amount of time. But over that time I 0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:43.439 started approaching my creation of music differently. I make it 0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:47.000 all myself in house, like half the time in boxers 0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.919 fucking wasted, yeah, you know, like making a song a 0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.760 fucking delirious idea like four in the morning, you know, 0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:56.879 but crazy yeah, yeah, I mean seriously, a lot of 0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.040 these songs on the album were like I couldn't even 0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:03.120 They're just like moments of time over the past few years. 0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:04.919 But like a lot of them were started on those 0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:09.760 types of nights that that would never happen if I said, Hey, 0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.280 I'm going to be creative at four pm tomorrow, so 0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.840 let's get a let's get a studio session book. Yeah, 0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:17.840 that that paradigm doesn't really make a lot of sense 0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.520 to me, Like that whole idea of just like trying 0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.400 to schedule when you're going to be inspired or be creative, 0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:25.800 you know, it doesn't really make any sense. So it's 0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:28.320 kind of like a strike of inspiration almost, and I 0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.879 think you can't really capture that without Like my my 0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:35.800 studio now is literally bedside, like my bed's right, like 0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:37.680 it's it's in the fucking room. I don't even put 0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:39.160 it in another room in the house, even if we 0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.800 have a room that could be a studio, I'll put 0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.920 it in my room because it's just the intimacy and 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.520 the privacy of it. And half the time I'll hop 0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:48.280 out of bed and just put a little idea down 0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.880 and then go to it tomorrow, you know. So to 0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.280 answer your question, like, it was a little bit of 0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:55.040 everything I wanted to get the fuck out of La. 0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:56.520 It was kind of driving me creative. 0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:58.480 A lot of cocaine in La, yeah, a lot of 0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.200 It's like it's literally a climate. 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.600 Like that how much it snows exactly. 0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:05.160 Exactly and it's literally like like a like a pack 0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:05.480 of gum. 0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:06.240 Everyone has it. 0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:10.200 Yeah yeah, And at my house, like my house Stevenson Ranch, 0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:12.360 the hat you're wearing, like the brand that's that's really 0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:15.200 what we called my house called it Stevenson Ranch because 0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:17.640 you know the inside joke. We called everybody Steve's and 0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:20.600 it just became that because people would go there after 0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:22.680 the bars and ship and like we weren't really you 0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:25.400 think about Hollywood in LA and the nightlife, like it's 0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:27.880 a tough scene for for us type of guys, Like 0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.280 I'm not trying to be at the fucking clubs and 0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:32.720 like the celebrities and I don't give a funck who's 0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:33.560 in there, you know what I mean. 0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:35.280 Like, and there's different levels to it too, because some 0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.600 celebrities are in there at the club and then he. 0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.360 Becomes so much of a celebrity you can't even go to. 0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:41.680 The club, right, yeah, I mean, And like as time 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:43.840 went on, we got cooler and cooler in the scene, 0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:45.760 and I wanted it less and less, if that makes 0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.640 any sense. As I got access into it, I was like, 0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:50.520 this is fucking lame. I'm not even having fun. No 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:51.200 one's having fun. 0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:53.760 So we had chasing a girl exactly. I had the 0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:55.719 most fun part of the battle is that Hey, how 0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:56.080 you doing? 0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:56.560 What's your name? 0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:00.640 How are you? Or yeah? 0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:01.720 We uh man. 0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:05.680 It just kind of basically had that realization. We stopped 0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:08.000 going out people, you know, going to the house a lot. 0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:10.080 It became a thing and there were a lot of 0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.160 little little white baggies floating around the house and I 0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:14.440 was kind of sick of it. Yeah, but yeah, we've 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.200 been since then, it's been about a year and a 0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:20.840 half of travel. We're basically living places fluidly, like two 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:22.840 to four months at a time really, and then as 0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:24.560 soon as like I start getting the itch and the 0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.960 boys start getting the itch, we start we start house shopping. 0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.800 And and when I say shopping, like private leases have 0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.800 been huge for me. Airbnb is one thing, but I 0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.320 got a pretty cool network or either athletes. 0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.560 Or like entrepreneur guys who have extra homes. 0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:43.600 Or whatever, you know, So really like fucking picking a 0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:45.440 spot in the map and going and we've we've been 0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.719 all over the place. But it's been really really really 0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:52.520 really fucking dope and really inspiring the way I make music, 0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:54.720 Like I'm looking out at the views. The views are changing, 0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.800 the rooms, the energy are changing. It's it just keeps 0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:01.200 me inspired. I feel like, no, I'm on a life standpoint. 0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:03.440 It's been so fun. You know though. The boys are 0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.400 with me, so I'm not necessarily like starting over anywhere. Yeah, 0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:09.000 it's just kind of replanting our seas and fucking we're 0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:09.640 having a blast. 0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:11.360 Like we partied a lot this year and had a 0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.960 lot of fun. But yeah, I heard the eighty twenty. 0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:19.480 Yeah, yeah, but it's landed me here where I'm just like, 0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:21.520 I'm almost like we're going into tour and I'm like 0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:23.600 I'm kind of turning down, you know what i mean. 0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:25.800 I'm not where in the past I would be going 0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:29.680 up up, up right. You guys are like, no, mads, yeah, no, mads, 0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:33.040 No maths, How like sustainable do you think that is? 0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:35.360 It's kind of love your perspective because all you guys 0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.480 are all different, right, all your boys, when you guys 0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:38.560 all travel, you guys all. 0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:41.240 Relatively the same haircut all around, but very different. 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:45.680 Yeah, and but I've always been curious, like, man, I 0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:47.440 wonder how long like that keeps going or is it 0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:51.200 just a mindset you think you've just adopted and you're 0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:55.560 gonna keep. Yeah, I really don't think it's sustainable for 0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:57.920 much longer, but I am going to push the envelope 0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.000 because it's just been so rewarding, you know what I mean, 0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.160 Like as a person too, like just fuck the music 0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:07.040 and everything else. Like I really, uh, I think I'll 0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.640 look back at this time and be like, wow, like 0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:11.680 you remember when we did that, you know, like yeah, 0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:14.320 for fucking two or three years straight. And you know, 0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:16.360 I'm not exactly a spring fucking chicken. I got some 0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.600 silver foxes coming in, you know, Like, what are you 0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.040 thirty three? I've been doing it for I've been doing 0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:22.800 it for fucking ten years, you know what I mean? 0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.479 Like people don't What people don't really understand is like 0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:28.040 the mic stud thing, Like because we were acting like 0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:29.880 fucking kids a whole time, because we were We're just 0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:31.320 fucking big idiots, you know what I mean. 0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.000 But the mic stud thing when it started, I didn't. 0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.280 I didn't like I've made my first song idea ever 0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.000 at the age of twenty two, Like I was just 0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:42.640 in a student athlete the entire time, and I had 0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:44.920 you know, I was more or less gonna be I 0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.560 was definitely gonna be a professional baseball player. But again, 0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:51.160 I want to Duke University America. Ever heard of it? 0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:54.360 The Record of Blue Demons. 0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:56.040 It's my favorite, dude. 0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:57.520 I mean, I wasn't gonna bring it up, but it 0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:00.719 does still stand. It does still stand. I don't think 0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:01.800 anyone's gonna beat that record. 0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:04.360 It'll be tough. It's like one of those little cheeky records, like, yeah, 0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:06.640 because you had to have what was the record? I'm sorry, 0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:09.080 it's the lowest e ra in school history. It's like 0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.600 so so it's like the reason I say that because 0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:13.920 I was a closer, so so I would come in. 0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:16.800 But there's a minimum inning requirement, which I think is 0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:19.440 like seventy five innings or fifty innings, and I. 0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:20.760 Was like exactly at that. 0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:23.840 So it's like starters, there's more time out there on 0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.480 the starting pitchers getting more innings in. It's it's hard 0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.200 to have a one point sixty ra A, but like 0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:30.520 I think if I threw double the amount of innings 0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:32.600 probably would have, you know, been higher. 0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:34.760 You know, you get the record, but I got the record. 0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:36.680 Don't apologize for being great, Yeah, don't. 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:38.720 Apologize, we're being great here. You know what I'm saying, 0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:42.080 throwing double again? Like no fun that you got the record? 0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:44.800 Dude, who got four years eligibility? Are you really? I'm 0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:45.600 not quite done yet. 0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:48.160 I heard you on the on the Mayfield podcast. Only 0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:49.000 you're a big xbox guy. 0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:49.360 I'm talking. 0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:52.880 I'm going to get in that heisman. Yeah, I was 0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:54.800 an xbox guy for a little bit. But no, I'm 0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:59.120 the best athlete. Uh MIC's ever better. I think under under. 0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:01.680 Under five A, I'm the best out that. You're the 0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.160 type of guy that strucks me as I'm a five 0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:03.920 to ten when you're. 0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:04.280 Out in public. 0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.520 Guy never would never says, hey I'm five ten. 0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:08.440 All right, So there's a bit of let me tell 0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.000 you about Skis. First off, he's like you, is that 0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:12.120 your government named Skis? 0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.640 I wish we're gonna change it. We're gonna I'm gonna 0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:17.080 stick with Skis like marchdam is going to be a ball. 0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.480 He's a Skis ball like a one dollar ball. You 0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:23.759 just bounce it, bounce it a cat. 0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.680 Yeah, an unlimited amount things you can do with the ball. 0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.920 A purpose ball, a purpose a good time with honest ball. 0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.920 But yeah, I mean skes is uh one of the 0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:35.520 only guys I met in l A. That I was like, 0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:37.719 I fucking love this guy. And he's a younger kid. 0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:39.759 I usually can't hang out with younger kids. It's just 0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:42.160 so fucking you know, like how I was when I 0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:44.400 was that age, Just like I couldn't hang out with that. 0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.200 It's a maturity level you have to hang out with that. 0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:46.960 Twenty four. 0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:51.359 Yeah, I got some weather behind those eyes. Four years old, 0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:52.960 I mean I'm dead. 0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:53.719 You're like, how old are you? 0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:54.000 Forty? 0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:54.480 Yeah? 0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:56.080 You know, I'm a decade. 0:34:56.120 --> 0:35:00.400 I'm a decade in myself like her years in. 0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:01.719 I think I ran into you when I was like 0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:04.080 twelve or thirteen, because Nebraska's I think I ran into 0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:05.080 you like twelve or thirteen. 0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:05.680 Like you, How old are you? 0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:05.920 Like? 0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:06.600 Twenty fours? 0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:11.719 That's about right, twenty four. A lot of those white 0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:12.719 bag He's kind of caught you. 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:13.279 Up in l A. 0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:13.560 Huh. 0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:16.520 I'm not the guy. I'm not the guy. 0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:17.560 I'm not the guy. 0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:20.279 I never turned down a good time though, But he's 0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:23.200 not that guy. No question. Drink plenty. You're not paying 0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:23.360 for it. 0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:24.120 It can't be bad for you. 0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.239 I ain't paying for ship. Yeah, MIC's done. 0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:30.640 I would be doing good a get a whole little 0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.960 squad here Mike's other desk. Hey man, I'm out with 0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:38.600 some homegirls right now. You gotta hit me real quick. Cocktails, man, 0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:40.960 you just signed any of that there? 0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:43.600 But yeah, go on. Actually, just so I've been doing 0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.839 this for a while and we never really This year 0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.000 or i'd say the last few years just kind of 0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:51.480 got into another tier with the rebrand and the mic 0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:54.920 stuff got into another tier of just being more lucrative 0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.320 and kind of we could be a little bit more fluid. 0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:57.880 We're growing. 0:35:58.000 --> 0:35:59.759 And I always wanted to sign a guy, but it 0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:00.960 had to be like the perfect guy. 0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.720 This is the perfect guy, great singer, like great artists, 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:07.799 but like the most electric, funny guy that I came 0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:12.879 in came into contact with. Delusionally very delusionally optimistic about 0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:16.040 his athletic ability. But what I will say is what 0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:18.480 I will say is as I've spent more time with him, 0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.239 he's kind of a freak athlete in someone like if 0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:22.120 you go out and golf with him, like he'll wear 0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:26.200 he'll wear no shirt, flip flops toes out and he'll 0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.440 fucking play scratch golf. Okay, hold on. 0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:31.279 I'm not gonna but you don't know golf. 0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.359 I'm not going I'm not going on records saying I'm 0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:36.640 golf five year old man with carpal tunnel and all 0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:38.120 the ship going on, and he can hit, he can 0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.120 do scratch golf like I'm not. Let's just say that's 0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:42.720 not the best measurement of athleticism. What is your sport 0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:43.560 other than golf? 0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:45.120 Okay? 0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:46.759 Uh, Mike? 0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:49.920 Ball A simple one, that's easy. What's that all coordination? 0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:51.680 That's easy? No, that's all you free? 0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:52.319 That's an easy one. 0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:55.080 Yeah, Now that's you're a You're an intermeal stock. 0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:57.800 You pick a sport. I'll go out the champions. 0:36:58.040 --> 0:36:58.640 I'll go out there and. 0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.759 I'll winipis is on a ability, I'm like recreational. You 0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:02.120 need that. 0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:03.240 You don't believe in yourself? 0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:05.840 Who is exactly I mean it? Though, Man, I'll go 0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:07.399 out there. I'll compete with the best of them. 0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:09.680 He's is one of those ones show up, you said, 0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:12.040 a juking. He'll just like fake toss the ball to somebody. 0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:12.359 Yeah. 0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.239 Move, but it's all linear the whole time. It's all 0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:15.600 in here. 0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:19.120 I'm take it with a great as salt, better athlete 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.600 than you think by far right, looking at. 0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:24.040 Him, But the guys in the NFL, you know what 0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:28.320 I mean, Like there's levels to what are the qualities? 0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:29.399 Like you were looking for to sign? 0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:31.799 You said electric funny, Like yeah, I mean I think 0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:33.319 about the athletics, Like what. 0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:35.040 Were you looking for? For real? That's probably that last 0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:37.680 one a big one. If it wasn't athletic, I don't 0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:38.000 know if. 0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:43.600 No, you know, it's I'm like a huge intuition guy. 0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:45.359 Like even though a lot of the guys in my group, 0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:48.080 like they kind of just flow, they kind of flow 0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.040 into my life. I'm like, I like these guys, you 0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:52.200 know what I mean, something happens with it. 0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:52.560 I don't know. 0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:54.640 I just kind of like let it happen. That's kind 0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:59.160 of how I operate in general with him. As I said, 0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.200 you know, we've had our our growth internally in our team, 0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:04.719 and we started talking about it and thinking about it, 0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.360 and I'm watching him and I like him, but spending 0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:11.839 time with him more. I've I've met so many people 0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:15.200 in my time and like for somebody to stick out 0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:18.440 and be really like really have a have a kind 0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:21.440 of stick to him, where like everyone I brought around him, 0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:25.399 whether it's a fucking you know, five star athlete, big 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:29.160 pro athlete or popular artists like post or anyone was like, oh, 0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:31.560 we's keys like everyone loves him lights up the room, 0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:31.719 you know. 0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:33.680 So it's one of those you have a blow about 0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:35.359 you and it's not just the light right behind your head. 0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.000 Ye I wasna good lighting. Well seriously though, That's that's 0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:40.879 that's where it originally started. And then it was more 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.279 about like, hey, like can he make some can't he 0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:45.200 make this one thing? To have a great singing voice, 0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:47.480 because he has a nice like smoky voice. 0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:48.840 You know, would you mind if I pause you and 0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:50.800 just give us a quick taste. I'm not giving you, 0:38:53.200 --> 0:39:00.399 give us a little give me something to song? 0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:02.640 What's what do you listening to? The sing? 0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:02.960 Sing? 0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:03.440 Rodman? 0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:09.440 Rod, I'm not wrapping no mic right now. No, I'll 0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:11.759 give you a what do we what do we get? 0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:12.799 I'm doing I'm doing. 0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:13.319 I'm doing. 0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:14.279 Drops to Jupiter. 0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:16.560 Before you do, drop the Jupiter. I need you to. 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:18.400 I don't want some half assed bullshit. I want to 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:21.359 see full just Rex sport league guy right now. 0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:24.759 I want you. You want to sit on the bus, 0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:25.400 let's get it. 0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:29.640 Drops the jubiter the dress. Anyway, it's always is that 0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:31.879 the same song is that the song? 0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:36.920 Wait? Is that that? 0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:38.440 I was just thinking the beauty of that song, though 0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:40.080 I thought, Oh, I don't know, I couldn't really make it. 0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.600 What's the beginning of the song? That she's back in 0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:46.800 the must be drops the Jupiter in the egg. 0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:56.120 A little bit more. Yeah, let's tell I'll get some 0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:57.319 gooseies over here. 0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:00.239 Dude wore pants. 0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.560 And a couple more segarettes will smoke, the will smoke 0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:06.520 the voice out like cigarettes the entire time as well, 0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:10.160 the best for your voice and your situation, but serious cigarette. 0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:12.800 There's like a there's an element to songwriting and like 0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:16.160 making songs, like even myself, Like I'm not even close 0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.680 to a technical singer, Like I've bullied and learned how 0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.239 to bullied myself and be able to do it as 0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:24.279 my sound changed as it needed to evolve, you know 0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:25.640 what I mean. Like if you go back to my 0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:28.320 old stuff, it was just like me rapping punchlines, you know. 0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.879 But he has that there's a tone, there's a tone 0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:35.160 to it. But also the biggest thing nowadays it's just 0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:38.400 guys who can put fucking good songs together, you know 0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:40.799 what I mean? Like when I say technical singers, there's 0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:45.280 guys who are amazing technical singers, guys girls amazing classically trained, 0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:48.879 but like there's there's just there's no it factor to them. 0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:50.440 There's no artistic factory. 0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:52.760 It's just like an it thing more that like because 0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:55.759 TikTok and the way the world is like everyone can anyone. 0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:57.880 There's so many talented people singing their ass off to 0:40:57.920 --> 0:40:59.799 their phone that could sing and rap better than I can. 0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:02.920 But it's just about do you have like a stick 0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:05.720 something that like make people stick and want to follow 0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:07.440 you and want to care and want to buy your 0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:09.360 stuff and turn it into a business. You know. 0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.560 So Okay, this might be like a really juvenile question, 0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:14.719 but like what does a process look like to making 0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:17.200 a song? Like how do both of you kind of 0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:18.800 go like where where do you find it? 0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:20.480 A kind of go into it. 0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:22.399 We had a good thing going, man. Well we had 0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:25.200 Mike's birthday. It was right over Halloween. 0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:31.920 Hun birthday arguably the best holiday of all times. Arguably 0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:34.480 I would have it's my favorite as well. So look 0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:37.359 at us foundation being right now. 0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.080 Yeah, so we called uh, we called that little weekend 0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:43.080 the super Bender, and that that's kind of what pushed 0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:45.640 Mike into retirement, well, retirement. 0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:46.920 Retirement we overdid it. 0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:48.799 Retirement, we overdid it. But we made uh. 0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:50.640 We made like three or four songs in like a 0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:53.080 little night or two span that were dude. 0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:55.480 We were like, we were out of bounds drunk. We 0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:57.840 were just like five, six, seven in the morning. And 0:41:57.960 --> 0:41:59.880 I was just probably like ten the morning and Mike 0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:01.879 I pop into his room. There's like forty or fifty 0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:04.799 people in his bedroom and he's trying to cut his. 0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:06.680 Underwear spaces bedroom. 0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:09.040 He's got his underwear on and he's and he's got 0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.520 a bottle, he's got like four dips in and he's 0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:13.080 just got a bottle of whiskey in his hand. 0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:13.839 And I pop in there. 0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:16.720 I'm wearing a fucking I was. I was a caddy 0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:18.879 for Halloween, so I was wearing my I was wearing 0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:20.520 my bib. I was right from the whole thing. 0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:22.400 And we popped in there and we made two of 0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:24.440 our two of our favorite records, I think. But the 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:26.279 up Again record that I just put out like I 0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:27.600 was made at like nine am. 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:29.360 And I remember doing yea, we will go over here 0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.080 the next morning and he's like, yo, come in two 0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:31.799 we made last night. 0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:34.359 I was like check it out here we go listen 0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:36.719 to the first time. Listener, Yeah, the first time. That's 0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:40.919 that's actually like a really good point. That's that's how 0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:44.680 that's the special part about it for me, and I 0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:46.759 used it as a crutch to continue partying, as I 0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:54.880 was like, because I'm like I'm making yeah, yeah, yeah, like, uh, 0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:57.600 you know, that's actually a really cool point though, and 0:42:57.840 --> 0:42:59.879 that's how I feel like I come in the next day. 0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:02.719 I'm like listening. Honestly, I have no idea like that. 0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:05.200 I have no preconceived notions about what I did, and 0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:07.960 I just it's almost like digging for gold, like ooh, 0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:11.560 that's cool, and like forty you know, forty fifty sixty 0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:13.880 seconds of it might be fucking nonsense. 0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:14.480 Nothing happened. 0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:16.279 I was gonna ask that if it's like you kind 0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:17.920 of you get a little hammered one night, go in 0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:19.600 You're like, this is fucking garbage. 0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:20.479 Having many air balls. 0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:21.880 Yeah, put that airballs right. 0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:23.600 That happened to Kobe baby, and it keeps. 0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:25.640 Shoot, he's incredible at patching records together. 0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:27.920 Yeah, incredible of picking out melodies and like, I mean, 0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:30.239 I'll go in there and just freestyle gibbers and then 0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:32.200 you know, by the time he's done pushing. 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.000 Like a freestyle from Gibbers right now, I'm right there. 0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:36.839 We're not going to put you here that He's got 0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:38.400 a great ear for me, and he's really incredible. 0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:40.480 He's done a lot for my records that I've been 0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:42.399 working on recently because I don't know how to put 0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:43.120 songs together. 0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:45.759 It's just not it was, and it's something that I 0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:49.240 just as I've done it for so long. It's something 0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:53.360 that I literally just kind of chipped away at until 0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:55.360 like I started to really feel like I felt it 0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:57.520 probably a few years ago, like a shift happen and 0:43:57.640 --> 0:43:59.959 I was like I kind of understood how I wanted 0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:03.279 to sound, and then I also started to understand like, 0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:05.040 because I'm not musical at all, I was just a 0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:08.040 fucking traditional Like it's probably the same type of lifestyles 0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:11.279 y'all had, you know, Like just basically my whole life 0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:13.920 revolved around playing a sport and fucking getting through school 0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:15.960 and trying to be a pro, and that was the 0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:19.040 whole shtick, you know. But now I feel like with 0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.080 the ten, it's like a ten thousand hour thing like 0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:24.040 anything else. Reps, Like I've actually put in tons of 0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:27.560 reps in my room, working freestyle and mumbling, singing and 0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:29.919 trying to find the right melodies. So now I feel 0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:32.440 like I'm in a spot where I can actually kind 0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.440 of just like I'm free. I can kind of do 0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:37.320 it myself. I'm not depending on anybody else. I'm putting 0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:40.120 it together, you know, and it's it's actually really fun. 0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:42.680 That's like the art for me, Like you know, like 0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:44.920 I take it in tears and steps. Usually it's a 0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:47.600 three step process. I mumble freestyle. I Don'm not even 0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:50.000 worried about what I'm saying originally, it's just how it feels. 0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:50.640 Like. 0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:52.239 There's some nights where I got, like you said, like 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:54.680 tons of girls and people around in the room listening. 0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:57.880 They're like, is this out yet? And it's like not 0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:00.439 even words to it. It's not even words. It's mumbled 0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:01.640 they right in front of them. They just don't even 0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:03.839 realize it, you know what I mean. Yeah, if they 0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:06.000 like the song when it's mumbles, how are they not 0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:07.799 going to like it when I write words to it later. 0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:10.160 So that's kind of my step. I write the words 0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:12.320 later and I don't even really write them. I just 0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:14.279 kind of like, you see, I just kind of like 0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:17.280 let them channel in and you know, I don't overwrite 0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:19.279 before I used to like write a whole song like 0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:21.719 a music, like a fucking goddamn homework assignment, and then 0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:23.960 go in there and try to sing it. Now everything 0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:26.799 by the book, Yeah, it's totally opposite. I'm totally left 0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:29.040 of it. And personally, I don't know if I would 0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:32.000 even I know I wouldn't have the success I'm having, 0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:33.640 but I don't think i'd be enjoying it. 0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:35.200 I don't even know if i'd still be doing it 0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:37.239 if I was doing it that way still, But do 0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:38.799 you feel like that was a necessary step? 0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:41.720 Absolutely, because I feel like like when you were saying earlier, 0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:43.959 you know, you feel like the concept of I'm gonna 0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:45.719 get a studio session in a four and do all 0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:47.600 this like people who are starting out who might not 0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:50.160 have a luxury of having something very established or a 0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:52.480 bank account established, to be like I'm just gonna let 0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:54.120 a free flow. Like they're taking it so serious, they 0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:56.200 got to write everything down, We're gonna go and use 0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:57.520 the studio this time because they take. 0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:59.240 It so seriously. Like were those your first steps? 0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:02.719 Yeahstly, and times have changed, right, so now I think 0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:07.000 with TikTok and and and how tech music tech is evolving, 0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:09.920 Like you really don't need much to get started. The 0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:13.279 first song I ever did college humor, I made it 0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:15.560 on a hundred dollars mic at a in a duke 0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:19.839 in a duke fucking dorm room. Stroman was right there 0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:22.080 with me, Marcus that that plays for the cubs now 0:46:22.760 --> 0:46:27.759 and on garage band you know, like platform, Yeah, outstanding. 0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:31.080 It literally comes with a Mac like I I don't 0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:33.240 even know if I would have like went and sourced 0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:35.319 like pro tools and learned it, like it just kind 0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:37.560 of wung it, you know, And I think wing it 0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:39.760 has really gotten me to where I am to answer 0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:42.480 your question nowadays, I think the veil has been lifted 0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:44.799 on like the fucking you know. 0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:49.200 Facade of like ooh, he's in the studio, Like wow, you. 0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:51.600 Know, like there was kind of this veil lifted where 0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:54.120 like you kind of have to take you have to 0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:55.920 be on or get signed to. 0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:57.000 Be making music. 0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.799 You don't now go flip on TikTok and the kids 0:46:59.880 --> 0:47:02.960 make high quality stuff in their bedrooms everywhere. I was 0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:04.600 just kind of one of the first dudes doing that, 0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:07.080 you know, like not to not even to say it 0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:08.480 that way. I was just like, this is the only 0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:10.719 way I was gonna get through an injury, right, yeah, yeah, 0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:13.040 that's that's kind of how how that's how the whole 0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:15.640 thing started, you know. And then there was a phase 0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:17.879 where I started to get a little popular, moved out 0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:19.120 to LA I was in like the. 0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:22.279 You know big look you made it studios, Like look 0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:23.400 at the how cool is this? 0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:24.000 Right? 0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:26.759 Then you get the bill later photo in the lab 0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:27.719 get the bill. 0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:30.800 Yeah, oh, I mean, dude, these places are like a 0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:32.719 fucking some of them are like five hundred dollars an hour, 0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:35.000 thousand dollars an hour. And then you got the girls 0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:38.320 coming in. We're drinking, fucking you know, it is just 0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:39.399 a concert at that point. 0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:41.160 Yeah. Yeah, And like that's what happens to a lot 0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:41.800 of these kids. 0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.600 Like when they're spending money, they get they get a 0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:47.560 million dollars, they don't understand first it's being recouped, you know, 0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:50.200 Like so it's a really bad it's a it's a loan, 0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:53.400 and it's really bad interest and you're losing your ownership. 0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:55.400 Like you when you go start a business and you 0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:58.000 get a business loan, they don't own the fucking business. 0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:00.520 Right after you get them paid back, like that's it's 0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:03.120 not a fair commodity exchange. There's just there's time. We 0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:04.760 could talk about that all day, but ya. 0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:07.000 Jilly Will talks about that quite a bit. How it's 0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:09.880 like all these kids, like they become rappers or singers 0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:11.520 or whatever it is, and they want to do the 0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:13.759 fancy music video with the G six in the back 0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:16.360 and the girls, the fat asses and the Lamborghinis and 0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:18.440 all that, and they're like, oh, I'm killing it. They 0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:21.040 don't realize there's a bill coming. They don't realize a million. 0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:23.839 You don't make a dime until they get all that back. 0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:25.319 All that bad it's usually like a. 0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:29.200 Bad like split like oh terrible, like eighty five fifteen 0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:31.719 right right, yeah, yeah, the label gets it. 0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:33.960 Yeah, And it's just it doesn't make sense. I mean, 0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:35.480 I went to a lot of these. 0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:39.440 It's kind of the thing again, the veil being lifted on, 0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:42.360 Like this industry is it's a little sisty, you know, 0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:44.680 like and they pray on kids coming out of us, 0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:47.520 you know, talented kids who fucking never had any money 0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:48.080 in their pocket. 0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:51.160 You know, like if they did, they were really hustling. 0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:51.279 For it, you know. 0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:53.680 So they kind of take advantage of that. 0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:56.719 And yeah, you know, you could argue like these guys 0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:58.920 would have never got it going, but it just it's 0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:02.120 it also just doesn't feel a fair commodity exchange for me. 0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:05.360 I've stayed independent the entire time for that reason. Like 0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:07.920 I you know, it's never felt right for me. It 0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:10.320 never felt organic. But I also just I felt I 0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:12.200 felt like it was bad business, you know, and I'd 0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:15.720 rather bet on myself, try to bully myself and figure 0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:16.680 it out myself, you know. 0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:19.239 And I feel a good thing going with like all 0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:21.719 the Mike stud Yeah correct, Yeah, I mean it was 0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:25.319 it's just Mike now, yeah, but like Mike or Mike. 0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:28.719 It's Mike Mike. So there's no just right, but think 0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:32.160 about it, right, so the Instagram is at just Mike. 0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:35.680 But think about when you say, like when the artists 0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:37.680 like you hear a song like who is this like Mike, 0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:40.000 like Mike, who just Mike? You know. So it's like 0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:42.359 the only way to explain it, you know what I mean. 0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:44.920 But I thought about going just Mike is the official 0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:47.799 artist name, but we went on. We went with Mike, 0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:50.680 and I'm really happy we did. Now when I think 0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:53.840 about Mike's stud I like, I literally grimace. 0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:56.719 Well I know I get that vibe too. Why is 0:49:56.840 --> 0:50:01.400 that I grimaced? Because now I'll still that's the legend 0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:02.480 of Mike Studt's pretty big. 0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:04.680 Yeah, I don't. I was just gonna say, like prefacely 0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:06.880 quite that story like it worked, you know what I mean, 0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:09.160 And I'm thankful. I don't regret it at all, because 0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:11.000 I actually don't know if it would have stuck if 0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:13.880 it didn't have like such a it's just obnoxious, like 0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:15.680 you know what I mean, And it's it's kind of. 0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:18.719 Has that like very when you look like I do. 0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.239 Like I'm a white kid, big baseball player, but I 0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:24.480 don't look like you know, like most artists in a 0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:26.680 sense where it's just kind of feel coming from Duke 0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:29.680 just like so easy to dislike, you know, And I 0:50:29.800 --> 0:50:31.560 totally get why a lot of people kind of felt like, 0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:38.759 fuck this guy very from Duke, Like you're already in 0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:41.840 fucking bitches and drinking bud lights like this guy. You know, 0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:45.640 I understand, I understand, but like I look back at it, 0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:47.800 I'm just like, man, that was exactly who I was. 0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:50.160 It was real, you know, like, just like this is 0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:50.640 who I am. 0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:53.080 Now, and that's why I couldn't be Mike Study anymore 0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:55.160 because it wasn't real anymore, you know, like it's the 0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:59.759 same notion. And to be honest, like if you said, hey, 0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:03.440 you're gonna have a real music career, I wouldn't have 0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:05.680 picked Mike extent, you know, Like I don't know if 0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:06.560 you guys know this story. 0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:08.640 It's a pretty interesting story how the name of a 0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:12.320 came about. Yeah, this is this, that's a podcast? 0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:14.920 Are four? It's what they'refore the new stieves that might 0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:17.239 be out there might not know, right, Yeah, so I 0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:20.160 got the duke more or less like right on the 0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:22.960 heels of the Duke lacrosse scandal. Do you guys remember that? Yeah? 0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:25.680 Yeah, so you're rhymes with grape? 0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:29.200 Was that the situation making I want to make sure 0:51:29.200 --> 0:51:32.759 I'm not thinking of something wrong? But yes, who, I 0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:33.360 just need to know. 0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:37.360 I don't need the tools. And then we're not laughing 0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:38.400 at that. We're not laughing. 0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:41.640 No, No, Well what happened was we actually can't laugh 0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:43.400 about it because it came out that it was false. 0:51:43.600 --> 0:51:46.520 The girls in jail for murder who like who basically 0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:49.560 like it was uh, you know, it was a stripper 0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:49.920 that they. 0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:52.000 Hired locally in Durham, North Carolina. 0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:55.680 The lacrosse guys, all these affluent come from affluent families, 0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:59.040 playing lacrosse at lacrosse. Yeah, and there was there's a whole. 0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:01.560 There's a whole, like there's a whole East sixty on 0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:05.160 this entire thing. It's a crazy situation, like there was 0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:08.440 a you know, there was a we don't even have 0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:10.719 to do we don't we don't hold the whole. 0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:12.719 I don't want to get a little bit more of 0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:15.480 opinion on there's no opinion. 0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:18.080 There's no opinion. The fact of the matter is that 0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:21.080 they got they got acquitted, and and the girl ended 0:52:21.160 --> 0:52:24.000 up kind of you know, being a lie and the guy, 0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:26.600 you know, the guy that prosecuted them, there was there 0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:27.960 was a whole, there's whole East sixty on it. 0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:30.480 So it was the murder thing, a separate deal, the 0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:32.960 separate deal, and got murdered during the separation, Like. 0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:35.080 It was proven that she had other guys DNA, none 0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:37.000 of these guys DNA, and that night she saw it 0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:39.319 as an opportunity to got you you know, and then 0:52:39.480 --> 0:52:41.320 but these kids' lives were ruined, you know, like it 0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:44.279 was a pretty serious Anyways. 0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:45.040 How does Mike still come out of that? 0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:48.600 So when I get there, it's actually hilarious. I get there, 0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:52.359 you know, Uh, they have this whole this meeting where 0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:54.560 they're addressing the student athletes and they're just like, look, 0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:59.279 Doke athletes are under fire. Social media, like Facebook at 0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:01.400 the time was the thing where like people were friending 0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:04.680 the Duke athletes, like they'd have like an attractive girl 0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:08.800 as the picture, except their friend request they'd take your pictures. 0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:12.040 They take like your underage drinking pictures, post them, try 0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:13.320 to blackmail you shit like that. 0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:16.680 So it just got very it got very strict. So 0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:17.880 our work around, like we. 0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:20.000 Wanted to have Facebook and social media and ship, so 0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:22.400 we came up with fake names with our real initials, 0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:24.759 like the baseball team specifically, and we were trying to 0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:27.160 go with like funny names. So our theme was porn 0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:30.640 star names, right, so like my my real initials are 0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:33.320 you know MS. So Mike Stead was a no brainer 0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:34.440 and I thought it was a genius for it. 0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:40.040 It became like a thing. My buddies on my team, 0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:42.440 you know, we call each other, like in front of. 0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:44.839 Our coach, who was a hard ass, Like we'd call 0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:47.200 each other by our fucking fake Facebook names, which he 0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:48.719 would have had a conniption if you knew we were. 0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:51.239 We were going around the rules, you know. So that 0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:52.920 was kind of a thing. And then when I got 0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:55.919 injured and I started making some songs. The only reason 0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:57.360 I was making the songs because I had no I 0:53:57.400 --> 0:53:59.560 had nothing to do, and my buddies were like the 0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:01.480 only people ever heard me rap and ship. I was 0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:03.960 just a kid who could always freestyle and whatever at 0:54:03.960 --> 0:54:04.440 the party. 0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:07.320 Every baseball team has a white rapper, yeah, yeah, exactly 0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:09.759 a group of friends. You know, if you're do it, 0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:11.760 you're in a good fre friends. 0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:13.640 That was just me, you know, and I had a 0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:15.320 few other guys on the team that would do it. 0:54:15.400 --> 0:54:18.160 We just had so that was the only reason it happened. 0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:20.279 And it was a no brainer to call my rap 0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:22.759 name Mike's Dead because you know, all my buddy that 0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:24.160 was like part of the joke. You know, they were 0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:24.560 in on it. 0:54:24.760 --> 0:54:26.640 So that's what happened. 0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:28.640 And then fucking you know, the first song I made 0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:31.640 was the song College Humor, and it just relatively speaking, 0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:35.680 went viral at the time, and it just kind of 0:54:35.920 --> 0:54:38.840 had it like kind of pushed me down that that path, 0:54:39.040 --> 0:54:40.880 you know, And what year was that when that happened. 0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:41.760 I was twenty twelve. 0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:43.319 The brand of Mike's done. 0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:46.040 Yeah, as if that happened now, it wouldn't it would 0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:48.560 have yeah, And I don't even I don't even know. 0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:51.360 I don't even know what would have I wasn't hit 0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:55.000 your crew blow up, that's yeah, calling a boy before 0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:57.560 the noteboys, it kind of I have no idea what 0:54:57.600 --> 0:54:58.960 would have happened if it would have happened now. 0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:00.560 I don't even think it would have work right now. 0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:01.200 I don't. 0:55:02.000 --> 0:55:04.200 I don't know if you if the career would go 0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:06.719 the way it's going now for you, But I think 0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:09.160 the beginning part of like how many eyes are available 0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:11.879 to social media now, it probably would have got much 0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:12.439 more viral. 0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:15.359 To your point, it's it's very overcrowded now, very over 0:55:15.719 --> 0:55:17.600 That's a good point. That's a good point I put 0:55:17.640 --> 0:55:17.799 in my. 0:55:17.840 --> 0:55:20.239 Mouth exactly, Like back to the point we talked about 0:55:20.239 --> 0:55:22.880 why I like Skis, Like there's there's a million people 0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:24.600 I could that could sing better than him and dance 0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:27.640 better and more attractive and all these shout out, Dan, 0:55:30.600 --> 0:55:33.359 there's a million, you know, the dance thing that it's 0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:35.879 having a thing. It's more important because it's so it's 0:55:35.920 --> 0:55:37.600 so crowded, it's so oversaturated. 0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:39.680 Everyone's trying to do it, everyone's making music, you know, 0:55:40.160 --> 0:55:41.120 so just got. 0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:44.080 Buried for you, Like, what was your process finding music 0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:46.720 and wanting to do that other than being a professional athlete? 0:55:46.800 --> 0:55:46.960 Yeah? 0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:49.160 Literally, well I blew my knee out. Okay, that had 0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:50.000 to be it was over. 0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:55.239 I had to figure that happened a couple of times. 0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:58.680 Oh really yeah, rolled the ankle. 0:55:58.840 --> 0:56:03.600 I figured I got to quit BACKCTE. 0:56:03.560 --> 0:56:03.759 Music. 0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:05.880 Man, I just fell in my lap. I didn't do 0:56:06.000 --> 0:56:08.160 music growing up or anything. When I moved to La, 0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:10.279 I was I was trying to be a fucking business guy. 0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:13.400 Didn't do well at all. Yeah, not good at all. 0:56:13.560 --> 0:56:15.839 Don't have the was having a blast a look. Yeah, 0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:17.279 I went into some big meetings and I was with 0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:19.160 act like I knew what I was talking about. Didn't 0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:22.160 go well, but no, Yeah, my buddies were all making 0:56:22.239 --> 0:56:23.640 music when I got to La. So I was always 0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:26.480 at the studio and one day my buddy like just 0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:28.080 didn't show up to a session that I was going 0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:30.480 to like meet meet with him, hang out, and I 0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:32.040 knew the producer and he was like, yo, go give 0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:32.359 it a shot. 0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:32.520 Man. 0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:32.880 I heard you. 0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:35.320 I heard you like singing bullshitting. So I made my 0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:38.239 first record and I kind of I didn't really like start. 0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:40.759 Then I got my first real go at it about 0:56:40.840 --> 0:56:43.640 right when COVID started. I got signed to Warner Music 0:56:43.640 --> 0:56:47.319 as a songwriter, and then I started getting with these guys. 0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:49.839 And yeah, when I met Mike, we were we were 0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:51.400 just partying. He didn't even know I made music for 0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:53.440 a pretty decent amount of time there. I think that's 0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:54.399 why I worked so well though. 0:56:54.600 --> 0:56:57.920 Yeah, and he didn't and like to be completely transparent, 0:56:58.040 --> 0:57:00.440 like he just started releasing his own stuff. But like, 0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:02.279 we're gonna make it a thing, you know what I mean, 0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:04.919 Like that's the whole thing. I have a great fan base. 0:57:05.120 --> 0:57:07.279 I know they're gonna eat him up. That's the whole thing. 0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:10.480 I've never really co signed anybody, right, this is what's happening. 0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:14.399 I'm gonna feature myself on his records. You know, he's 0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:17.720 gonna open my tours. He's on sitting in on the podcast. 0:57:17.840 --> 0:57:20.520 He just has the whole thing where I just the synergies. 0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:22.360 We're gonna make it a thing, you know, And I 0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:24.120 just know he can carry his weight and I know 0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:27.360 he'll evolve. And the biggest hurdle is just getting this 0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:29.880 guy to put down the put down the bottle and 0:57:29.920 --> 0:57:31.400 get in the fucking studio more often. 0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:34.720 But he's young and he's a big deal in this country. Yeah, 0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:36.760 but you can't force it. You gotta let it flow. 0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:39.320 Yeah, man, there's also well you're speaking kind of on 0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:40.880 both sides of your mouth right now, because in the 0:57:40.960 --> 0:57:44.880 beginning you said them nine ten a m hammered drunk. 0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:46.280 Exactly are the best one exactly? 0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:49.120 But I can't so if you're gonna drink, I don't 0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:51.840 know how to word that. Though you have to drink 0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:57.160 as well, Mike, and Holy so you're tired. 0:57:57.200 --> 0:57:58.439 We're gonna miss you, guys when you're gone. 0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:01.800 Heard after the after the mega banner, and we've been 0:58:01.840 --> 0:58:04.080 bouncing around all these all these new cities and and 0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:07.240 he's on you know, he's a monk now that way. 0:58:07.200 --> 0:58:09.800 Cows and now meditation. He gets a very cool road. 0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:11.800 He's me roaming around and getting ready to go out, 0:58:11.800 --> 0:58:15.440 and he's just looking at me. He's like, all right, Jesus, figure, 0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:18.160 people do get a little sober. 0:58:18.480 --> 0:58:19.520 And then they made the choice. 0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:20.800 I'm not gonna drink this week and then all their 0:58:20.840 --> 0:58:24.000 buddies drinking. They're like, you piece of ship's I'm not 0:58:24.040 --> 0:58:26.680 gonna hear You's true, that's so true. 0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:29.080 Somehow I turned into like the disappointed dad. 0:58:28.960 --> 0:58:29.360 In the house. 0:58:31.680 --> 0:58:33.520 That's why he said he can't do somewhere. You got 0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:34.120 to clean it up. 0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:34.320 Man. 0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:41.280 You gotta knows to the hardwood man you go on tomorrow. 0:58:45.760 --> 0:58:47.280 But he knows, he knows, man like he sent me 0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:48.880 out into the battlefield like on his behalf. 0:58:49.000 --> 0:58:50.520 So it's like the torch. 0:58:50.720 --> 0:58:51.520 He's just a fact. 0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:53.840 My wife. Yeah, I need to work more. I don't. 0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:55.120 I don't do that very well. I'm not a great 0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:58.640 work dream of yours to be uh an artist ship? 0:58:58.680 --> 0:59:04.720 It is now answer opening? 0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:06.000 Are you opening for just Mike? 0:59:06.200 --> 0:59:10.160 Yeah? Yeah, And I'm just right, and I'm only opening 0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:12.320 for Mike. Throwing him into the fire, you know, like 0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:13.160 it's it's uh. 0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:15.360 He got a little nervous when there were ten guys 0:59:15.400 --> 0:59:17.520 in the room, just seeing a little bit of drops Jupiter. 0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:19.320 Yeah, well I don't do it for the fellows. 0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:20.600 Yeah, oh, you do for the lady. 0:59:20.880 --> 0:59:23.160 For the lady, boy, I didn't think it on board 0:59:23.160 --> 0:59:23.320 with that. 0:59:23.480 --> 0:59:25.360 Well, well, first one snapping back there. 0:59:25.640 --> 0:59:27.080 I love a guy who was gonna have the same 0:59:27.240 --> 0:59:29.040 He's gonna have the same, you know. I see a 0:59:29.080 --> 0:59:31.000 lot of That's kind of how I was, Like, I 0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:32.240 didn't know what the hell I was doing. I just 0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:35.040 got up on stage and like figured it out, figured 0:59:35.080 --> 0:59:37.720 out how my approach was to performing. I used I 0:59:37.880 --> 0:59:40.360 banter so much on stage, like it's not a normal 0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:42.680 music show. I'm bringing people up with drinking beers, Like 0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:45.000 I'm still gonna do all that, you know. So I 0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:47.960 see him kind of walking that path. The difference is 0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:51.400 I was starting with fifty one hundred people. This is 0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:53.520 gonna be like two to five thousand. 0:59:53.400 --> 0:59:53.600 You know. 0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:58.600 So honestly, I think I'm more nervous doing karaoke in 0:59:58.680 --> 1:00:00.720 front of fifty than I will be in front of you. 1:00:00.880 --> 1:00:02.840 There's less eyes question. 1:00:03.000 --> 1:00:04.480 This fucker can't just be looking at me dead in 1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:06.320 my eyes, like right, you're gonna miss that note? 1:00:06.400 --> 1:00:07.120 Oh my god, I don't know. 1:00:07.840 --> 1:00:08.160 I don't know. 1:00:09.320 --> 1:00:14.080 I don't say, oh my god, what are your emotions 1:00:14.160 --> 1:00:14.840 going into this thing? 1:00:15.360 --> 1:00:15.800 Your first show? 1:00:15.840 --> 1:00:16.680 It's gonna be your first show. 1:00:16.760 --> 1:00:19.280 Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, I'm excited, man, I mean 1:00:19.360 --> 1:00:22.000 I'm I'm super grateful though, you know, Mike, Mike pulled 1:00:22.040 --> 1:00:23.840 me out of a fucking He pulled me out of 1:00:23.920 --> 1:00:25.400 a situation I was not gonna be doing what the 1:00:25.400 --> 1:00:26.680 fuck was I gonna be doing. I'll probably be doing 1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:27.320 insurance again. 1:00:29.040 --> 1:00:30.680 I'd be doing it well in Omaha. 1:00:30.800 --> 1:00:34.920 Yeah, I would have gone back on the boys go 1:00:35.000 --> 1:00:35.400 big Round. 1:00:35.440 --> 1:00:36.400 And you grew up in Nebraska. 1:00:36.560 --> 1:00:36.760 Yeah. 1:00:37.040 --> 1:00:38.640 Yeah, you've really made it out of the treasure on 1:00:38.720 --> 1:00:39.120 Earth man. 1:00:39.200 --> 1:00:42.480 Yeah, okay, well we can go that route too. I 1:00:42.560 --> 1:00:44.240 love it manywhere I. 1:00:44.280 --> 1:00:44.800 Want right now. 1:00:45.200 --> 1:00:47.520 It's a simple guy, simple things, you know. 1:00:47.720 --> 1:00:49.400 Yeah, Man, I'm glad I got Yeah, I'm glad he 1:00:49.440 --> 1:00:50.720 pulled me out of the out of l a when 1:00:50.760 --> 1:00:52.680 when he was getting on the road, he was buddies 1:00:52.680 --> 1:00:55.080 with all the kids, all like the really handsome young 1:00:55.240 --> 1:00:57.720 like TikTok at that time, it was. 1:00:57.840 --> 1:01:01.760 Vine like the love Vine Fellas all that good like 1:01:01.880 --> 1:01:03.960 good guys, but they were all the stars. The Skis 1:01:04.080 --> 1:01:06.680 was just like the good good times guy around, you know, 1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:09.600 so like he never really even saw himself and that 1:01:09.720 --> 1:01:10.760 that's what I like. 1:01:10.880 --> 1:01:12.560 The whole thing attracted me to it, you know, I 1:01:12.680 --> 1:01:14.080 just he's not one of those dudes. 1:01:14.280 --> 1:01:16.560 Was like, hey, look at me, but everyone ends up 1:01:16.560 --> 1:01:18.240 looking at him, you know what I mean, where that's 1:01:18.280 --> 1:01:19.120 where I see it. 1:01:19.160 --> 1:01:21.840 I'm not really has to be that perfect thing, and 1:01:21.880 --> 1:01:22.240 where I. 1:01:22.280 --> 1:01:23.800 Feel like I feel like it is that, you know, 1:01:23.880 --> 1:01:25.400 so I agree with that statement when we when I 1:01:25.440 --> 1:01:27.280 first walked in here. A couple of minutes later, I 1:01:27.360 --> 1:01:30.240 apologize big league. Yes, Skis is in here, like, who 1:01:30.280 --> 1:01:32.160 fucking just this? No, No, he was just showing out. 1:01:32.280 --> 1:01:34.680 He was on the entire room. The two were having 1:01:34.680 --> 1:01:37.520 a little bromance about Nebraska. We were talking about the 1:01:37.560 --> 1:01:41.000 bust and Bowl coming soon. This this fall that you 1:01:41.040 --> 1:01:42.800 guys are fucking killing it. I want to want to 1:01:42.800 --> 1:01:45.080 point out. I mean, my first time I came, I 1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:46.160 was extremely hungover. 1:01:46.320 --> 1:01:47.240 Yeah, yeah, tough. 1:01:47.320 --> 1:01:49.480 Look Johnny Manzell was in town, so that will tell 1:01:49.480 --> 1:01:51.320 you exactly what the fuck was going over. 1:01:52.840 --> 1:01:54.160 I mean, not to blame it on him, I was. 1:01:54.240 --> 1:01:56.320 We were on like a pretty sick one finishing the 1:01:56.360 --> 1:02:00.440 album in Nashville at the time, and I was sweating 1:02:00.480 --> 1:02:01.880 my balls off on I don't know what kind of 1:02:02.440 --> 1:02:03.640 like situation, you guys. 1:02:03.680 --> 1:02:06.840 It was not very murky, was not comfortable. It was 1:02:06.920 --> 1:02:09.040 not comfortable. At one point I almost turned in and 1:02:09.080 --> 1:02:10.080 she's like, I gotta get out of here. 1:02:10.120 --> 1:02:12.600 I didn't thought it was you know. I mean, I 1:02:12.600 --> 1:02:15.720 don't know, but I gotta go. I gotta go, you know. 1:02:15.880 --> 1:02:19.560 Yeah, Like I was giving me the yeah, there's levels levels. 1:02:19.600 --> 1:02:21.400 Hey we have a new bigger shed. 1:02:21.560 --> 1:02:24.160 Yeah, I'm trying to like give spiritual input into like 1:02:24.160 --> 1:02:27.560 the Johnny Manziel situation. I'm even on the couch, you 1:02:27.600 --> 1:02:29.440 know what I mean. But it was, it was it 1:02:29.520 --> 1:02:31.200 was a great experience. Got to meet you guys. We 1:02:31.280 --> 1:02:33.760 had been talking for a while, but since since then, 1:02:34.240 --> 1:02:35.960 like you've been following me, I've been paying a lot 1:02:36.000 --> 1:02:36.840 more attention to you guys. 1:02:36.840 --> 1:02:38.960 It just seems like you're climbing the ranks constantly. 1:02:39.280 --> 1:02:42.520 We're going Baby Wheel was like, Bro, that that's like, 1:02:42.640 --> 1:02:43.280 that's the thing. 1:02:44.760 --> 1:02:45.440 That one come on. 1:02:45.560 --> 1:02:48.680 I mean, if they need a quarterback Nebraska Scott, regardless. 1:02:48.160 --> 1:02:50.680 Of regardless of who's gonna win that game, Like that 1:02:50.840 --> 1:02:53.680 might not be like the like the most financially driven 1:02:53.720 --> 1:02:55.720 thing we've done, but it might be the coolest. 1:02:55.440 --> 1:02:56.000 Thing we've ever done. 1:02:57.000 --> 1:02:57.800 Who cares about the money? 1:02:58.040 --> 1:03:01.439 One schools like fight over something that we just decided. 1:03:01.080 --> 1:03:02.880 That's gonna be a cool idea and they do with it. Yeah, 1:03:02.960 --> 1:03:04.960 that's coolest ship it's now. I don't think there's a 1:03:05.040 --> 1:03:06.360 chance in helling the Nebrasco wins. I think they have 1:03:06.400 --> 1:03:08.800 amazing facilities that think Scott Frost is unbelievable. They have 1:03:08.880 --> 1:03:11.120 a really gordy go hard on the defense, Garrett Nelson, 1:03:11.240 --> 1:03:12.160 you want to do that, do. 1:03:13.680 --> 1:03:17.320 Feed into it. We're gonna trying to get started. Why 1:03:17.320 --> 1:03:17.720 are we doing this? 1:03:17.840 --> 1:03:19.920 I do think I do think Nebraska will dominate for 1:03:19.960 --> 1:03:23.280 the next eight years. But I think it'll be awesome 1:03:23.360 --> 1:03:24.880 to have the bust and bowl and an arbor for 1:03:25.000 --> 1:03:27.040 eight I think it'll be unbelievable and I think it'll 1:03:27.080 --> 1:03:30.160 be great for maybe not for our relationship, but like 1:03:30.560 --> 1:03:32.680 the all of this right now for sure. 1:03:33.000 --> 1:03:34.920 You guys got to get the Nebraska audience going. That's 1:03:34.920 --> 1:03:38.200 a performing in Lincoln or Omaha. 1:03:38.360 --> 1:03:41.240 Yeah, well, we need to holler at us. We'll do 1:03:41.320 --> 1:03:43.080 the bust and ball, have to We'll do the We'll 1:03:43.120 --> 1:03:48.200 do the no, we'll do the drops, the Juba and no. 1:03:48.320 --> 1:03:49.600 I need to do it, man, I need to do 1:03:50.080 --> 1:03:54.400 in the uh what's it called the Jesus Christ not American? 1:03:54.480 --> 1:03:55.880 Yeah, the neck I'm not American anymore. 1:03:57.160 --> 1:03:57.640 See, Okay. 1:03:57.720 --> 1:03:59.400 I was talking to one of my friends at the 1:03:59.440 --> 1:04:01.480 Bust and yeah, that'd be outstanding. I was talking to 1:04:01.520 --> 1:04:04.480 one of my friends who's made it up very high 1:04:04.520 --> 1:04:06.040 in the ranks of music, and I was talking to 1:04:06.120 --> 1:04:08.480 him like he was for the World Series when the 1:04:08.520 --> 1:04:10.240 Braves was and they wanted him to come see sing 1:04:10.360 --> 1:04:12.520 the national anthem. And he's like, I don't want to 1:04:12.560 --> 1:04:13.960 do it. And I was like, why would you not 1:04:14.040 --> 1:04:16.760 want to? He's like, because if I do it, it's fine. 1:04:16.920 --> 1:04:19.120 Look I did it here. I am boom. If I 1:04:19.280 --> 1:04:21.480 mess up, you're freezing. 1:04:21.880 --> 1:04:22.960 No no, no, no, no oh. 1:04:23.000 --> 1:04:24.800 You don't believe in what I just said. No, you're 1:04:24.840 --> 1:04:25.440 not subscribing to. 1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:26.360 The messing it up? Who cares? 1:04:26.760 --> 1:04:29.040 It's it's not a respect thing to you know. I 1:04:29.160 --> 1:04:31.440 just I can't sing that well. Yeah, but I love 1:04:31.520 --> 1:04:32.320 the I love the game. 1:04:32.360 --> 1:04:34.280 I think if you smoke it with a dangling cigarette 1:04:34.320 --> 1:04:40.240 and cigarette got out and hey this was yeah, yeah, 1:04:41.000 --> 1:04:42.880 it's not gonna go well, you can't lose. 1:04:43.000 --> 1:04:45.760 Yeah, if you dive in with that insurance policy you 1:04:45.800 --> 1:04:47.480 were insurance. If you put that insurance mostly of a 1:04:47.840 --> 1:04:49.800 I'm not that great. I'm not the people go, hey, 1:04:49.840 --> 1:04:50.400 it's not bad. 1:04:50.800 --> 1:04:51.360 You know what I'm saying. 1:04:53.040 --> 1:04:54.400 On top of that, Michel Simpson. 1:04:54.160 --> 1:04:55.800 You can have the crown, Hey, ain't that bad? 1:04:55.920 --> 1:04:57.440 And that we can do a little. 1:04:57.280 --> 1:05:00.640 Insider trading action and you bet the overs on how 1:05:00.720 --> 1:05:01.960 long the national anthem goes. 1:05:03.640 --> 1:05:04.280 I'm all about white. 1:05:05.440 --> 1:05:07.680 I like to tail are taking the overs, telling everybody 1:05:07.760 --> 1:05:09.920 right now if I do a national anthem, take the overs. 1:05:10.080 --> 1:05:14.959 Yeah, well, drag that thing on. I know, my god, 1:05:15.120 --> 1:05:21.200 that's hilarious, dude, to get back on you, Mike. They 1:05:21.360 --> 1:05:22.640 this is my this is supposed to be. 1:05:26.560 --> 1:05:29.919 But I'm curious, like when and why did it trans 1:05:29.960 --> 1:05:31.960 start the transition from mike'stud. 1:05:31.640 --> 1:05:33.240 To just oh yeah, I'm so glad you brought that 1:05:33.280 --> 1:05:33.640 back up. 1:05:33.920 --> 1:05:37.760 Yeah. So, if I'm being completely honest, I fully could 1:05:37.760 --> 1:05:41.600 probably you know, he could tell ye I said this. 1:05:42.520 --> 1:05:45.840 We probably started talking about the idea of switching maybe 1:05:45.920 --> 1:05:50.959 five six years ago, right, and it was I knew 1:05:51.000 --> 1:05:52.000 I was going to do it. 1:05:52.120 --> 1:05:53.840 I just didn't know when, you know, And. 1:05:54.600 --> 1:05:56.320 I'm a big like like I said, I kind of 1:05:56.400 --> 1:05:58.280 just let it flow and when it feels right, But 1:05:58.360 --> 1:06:01.480 I was I really started to take a step back 1:06:01.520 --> 1:06:04.040 on the mic stud releases. I was working on a 1:06:04.080 --> 1:06:07.000 new sound. I you know, I invested in my own studio, 1:06:07.160 --> 1:06:09.320 my home. I started, you know, like like I said, 1:06:09.320 --> 1:06:11.640 I started getting the reps and it was like a 1:06:11.720 --> 1:06:16.480 tough time because from the outside looking in, everyone's like, oh, 1:06:16.560 --> 1:06:18.520 he's falling off, like it's over, you know, like he 1:06:18.560 --> 1:06:20.560 had a good little run like the college white rapper, 1:06:20.680 --> 1:06:24.400 you know, yeah, and everyone else in that space that 1:06:24.520 --> 1:06:27.520 I shared that space with kind of did fall off 1:06:27.600 --> 1:06:29.280 in that sense, like he had a little run in 1:06:30.000 --> 1:06:32.640 and uh, I kind of just was invested in in 1:06:32.800 --> 1:06:37.880 trying to create a sound, you know, and and figure 1:06:37.960 --> 1:06:40.040 out what it was going to be. What was it 1:06:40.120 --> 1:06:43.520 because the old thing just didn't feel didn't even feel 1:06:43.560 --> 1:06:46.520 synonymous to me anymore as a person one and two, 1:06:46.800 --> 1:06:50.320 Like that sound itself has ran its course, where like 1:06:50.840 --> 1:06:53.880 hip hop music had evolved and evolved past what that 1:06:54.000 --> 1:06:59.040 sound was really. So you know, i'd say we we dropped. 1:06:59.280 --> 1:07:03.120 We We did the actual announcement and the rebrand in 1:07:03.200 --> 1:07:08.040 twenty twenty. Right made the decision in twenty eighteen, early 1:07:08.160 --> 1:07:11.040 twenty eighteen, and I was just working on these records. 1:07:12.200 --> 1:07:13.920 A big guy during that time that came into my 1:07:14.000 --> 1:07:14.640 life and gave me. 1:07:14.720 --> 1:07:19.120 That gave me the confidence in what I was doing 1:07:19.280 --> 1:07:22.120 was post malone. He you know, we we had shared. 1:07:22.680 --> 1:07:25.360 We shared like producers. The producer that I found and 1:07:25.520 --> 1:07:28.880 got signed and brought out became his producer. We started 1:07:28.920 --> 1:07:31.760 frequenting the studio and seeing each other a lot. Became buddies, 1:07:31.800 --> 1:07:34.600 good buddies, and he, you know, there was a there 1:07:34.680 --> 1:07:36.080 was a moment in time where I was really I was, 1:07:36.240 --> 1:07:37.840 I was going to sign with him and signed to 1:07:38.000 --> 1:07:41.520 him business wise, is just it just wasn't right for me, 1:07:41.640 --> 1:07:44.160 you know, But it didn't really go there. But what 1:07:44.320 --> 1:07:46.360 I will say is he he gave me a lot 1:07:46.400 --> 1:07:48.240 of confidence at that time and what I was working 1:07:48.320 --> 1:07:50.000 on because no one in the public had heard it, 1:07:50.720 --> 1:07:52.240 and it was this kind of new sound. 1:07:52.400 --> 1:07:53.960 I don't even know what you would call the genre 1:07:54.040 --> 1:07:55.080 of music that I'm making. 1:07:55.160 --> 1:07:55.200 It. 1:07:55.920 --> 1:07:58.680 It's definitely not like rap. It's not country, but it's 1:07:58.760 --> 1:08:01.560 kind of taking the ambiond of some country music. 1:08:01.680 --> 1:08:05.040 Yeah, you know, but it's I was. I hadn't really 1:08:05.160 --> 1:08:06.800 shared it with anyone. I knew it was good. I 1:08:06.840 --> 1:08:08.280 knew I liked it. My buddies liked it. 1:08:08.400 --> 1:08:10.880 And that's really the gauge for me, but someone at 1:08:10.920 --> 1:08:13.680 that stature kind of going on record with me and saying, hey, 1:08:13.840 --> 1:08:14.600 I really fucked with this. 1:08:15.120 --> 1:08:17.840 That really helped, like personally, and I've. 1:08:17.720 --> 1:08:20.320 Told him that, you know, and uh, just kind of 1:08:20.360 --> 1:08:22.479 getting over the hump of like, yeah, this is exactly 1:08:22.640 --> 1:08:24.560 what it's supposed to be, you know, so probably. 1:08:24.320 --> 1:08:26.799 Nervous getting over there, like leaving the hip hop whateverbod 1:08:26.800 --> 1:08:27.679 I thought of you as. 1:08:27.760 --> 1:08:30.320 Yeah, and you know, like I'm gonna be I'm gonna 1:08:30.320 --> 1:08:32.400 be candid, you know, Like there was definitely a time 1:08:32.439 --> 1:08:34.439 where I felt like I was, you know, I was 1:08:35.120 --> 1:08:38.240 taking steps backwards, like I was in these nights, like 1:08:38.320 --> 1:08:41.760 I said, grandiose studios with great producers and you know, 1:08:41.960 --> 1:08:44.040 like the whole I was I was the guy, you know, 1:08:44.120 --> 1:08:46.240 and then I'm back in my room in my house, 1:08:46.439 --> 1:08:49.160 working alone, trying to figure out looking googling how to 1:08:49.240 --> 1:08:52.280 fucking do shortcuts on pro tools, trying to figure out 1:08:52.360 --> 1:08:55.280 how to do it myself. And it was like a 1:08:55.360 --> 1:08:58.519 gut check time, you know, but like kind of what 1:08:58.640 --> 1:09:02.400 life is about, man, you know, I really felt when 1:09:02.400 --> 1:09:05.080 I look back at that time, like man, I like 1:09:05.320 --> 1:09:07.639 kind of became who I am now, became a man 1:09:07.720 --> 1:09:09.840 because I was like, you know, I was kind of 1:09:10.120 --> 1:09:11.800 back against the wall, and I feel like those are 1:09:11.800 --> 1:09:13.920 the times where you really kind of figure out who 1:09:13.960 --> 1:09:16.439 you are, you know, and and that's what this was 1:09:16.520 --> 1:09:19.320 for me, Like you know, it was it was kind 1:09:19.360 --> 1:09:23.120 of a it was a double down on yourself type situation. 1:09:23.479 --> 1:09:26.560 And most people, yeah, most people frowned upon it. Not 1:09:26.680 --> 1:09:29.160 my immediate friends because they got it like, well they 1:09:29.240 --> 1:09:31.040 might have just do set it to you. No, they would, 1:09:31.200 --> 1:09:33.120 they would, That's why they're here. Yeah, you know, I mean, 1:09:33.280 --> 1:09:35.400 like my guys will tell me anything, like it's not 1:09:35.479 --> 1:09:46.400 that situation one know. But like I had plenty of 1:09:46.439 --> 1:09:48.479 people be like I don't know, man, like Mike says, 1:09:48.680 --> 1:09:50.560 is still doing good making make it like it was 1:09:50.680 --> 1:09:52.800 still It was like even my my money guys, my 1:09:52.880 --> 1:09:55.720 financial guys or lawyers, like this is this is a 1:09:55.760 --> 1:09:58.840 sustainable business. It's growing still. It's an increments and small 1:09:58.960 --> 1:10:01.600 but like they don't get it. Like I knew for 1:10:01.760 --> 1:10:04.280 a fact this is the this is the long winded answer, 1:10:04.360 --> 1:10:06.840 but this is really the answer. I know for a 1:10:06.920 --> 1:10:09.040 fact being in LA and being in the game, and 1:10:09.640 --> 1:10:11.880 I was paying attention to like I had one manager 1:10:11.920 --> 1:10:14.439 at the time who came on, who's very much an 1:10:14.479 --> 1:10:17.080 in person in the industry, and I know what the 1:10:17.120 --> 1:10:20.360 statement attached to Mike's said was, Oh. 1:10:20.280 --> 1:10:23.640 That's not like college rapper, kind of like douchey, you know, 1:10:23.840 --> 1:10:24.679 like that was cool. 1:10:24.720 --> 1:10:25.479 I fuck with that, dude. 1:10:25.560 --> 1:10:27.960 Yeah, but like it was that like there was a 1:10:28.120 --> 1:10:29.720 very low ceiling to what it could be. 1:10:30.280 --> 1:10:34.599 And you know, additionally, I'm just changing as a person, 1:10:34.640 --> 1:10:36.760 as a human being, and I just I don't even 1:10:36.800 --> 1:10:39.519 feel connected to Mike's stud anymore as a man. You know, 1:10:39.680 --> 1:10:41.760 I became from a fucking boy to a man, like 1:10:41.840 --> 1:10:44.160 I was a fucking kid when I did that, you know, 1:10:44.360 --> 1:10:48.920 so all of those factors combined made it I literally 1:10:49.000 --> 1:10:52.360 couldn't continue as is. So then it became what's it 1:10:52.439 --> 1:10:55.240 going to be? Mike, you know. And then the records, 1:10:55.479 --> 1:10:57.719 you know, I knew, I knew the records were cool, 1:10:57.840 --> 1:11:00.200 you know, so I just kind of we start to 1:11:00.280 --> 1:11:00.599 roll it out. 1:11:00.600 --> 1:11:02.320 We made a plan for the top of twenty twenty. 1:11:03.760 --> 1:11:05.240 It was supposed to do a deal with Post. I've 1:11:05.240 --> 1:11:07.880 actually never really said that. People know, some people know, 1:11:08.479 --> 1:11:11.519 some of my fans know. But the pandemic comes around 1:11:11.600 --> 1:11:13.960 twenty twenty, and like I'm supposed to go out on 1:11:14.040 --> 1:11:16.560 tour with him. He's not touring, you know, so it 1:11:16.680 --> 1:11:19.080 kind of made this It kind of almost forced the hand, 1:11:19.160 --> 1:11:21.479 like I'm just gonna do this, rebrand myself and. 1:11:21.520 --> 1:11:22.720 We can we can reconvene on that. 1:11:22.960 --> 1:11:25.120 When you say it didn't align it from a business standpoint, 1:11:25.120 --> 1:11:26.000 that's what That's what it was. 1:11:26.080 --> 1:11:28.439 Yeah, because it was like kind of the contingency and 1:11:28.520 --> 1:11:30.920 like the most appealing thing to me was like getting out, 1:11:31.000 --> 1:11:34.360 Like the opportunity I'm giving skis right. Justin Bieber did 1:11:34.400 --> 1:11:37.439 that for Posts, Like Posts had a few records out. 1:11:37.640 --> 1:11:40.200 Bieber put him out. He's just singing, singing to arenas 1:11:40.240 --> 1:11:43.000 full of people, you know, Post killing him and Post 1:11:43.120 --> 1:11:45.960 is just an outlier talent anyway, Like he didn't need 1:11:46.160 --> 1:11:47.960 Justin Bieber to do it. Justin Bieber just saw what 1:11:48.080 --> 1:11:50.719 he was out of the gate in the audience said fuck, 1:11:50.760 --> 1:11:51.400 let's go, you know. 1:11:52.040 --> 1:11:54.479 But that was kind of the idea, Like the biggest 1:11:54.520 --> 1:11:55.360 thing I needed from him. 1:11:55.439 --> 1:11:58.680 Yes, we have some songs together too, now getting them 1:11:58.720 --> 1:12:01.320 out is another thing being an independent artist in him 1:12:01.320 --> 1:12:02.960 being one of the biggest pop artists in the world. 1:12:03.040 --> 1:12:06.400 But we have one incredible record that I think if 1:12:06.400 --> 1:12:08.200 I could get out, it would be my first true hit, 1:12:08.400 --> 1:12:12.240 you know. So that's still on deck, you know. But yeah, 1:12:12.360 --> 1:12:15.080 like the pandemic kind of forced a hand, and I 1:12:15.240 --> 1:12:17.880 really thank god that it didn't happen the way it did, because, 1:12:18.479 --> 1:12:20.240 you know, we're just we're having such a good time 1:12:20.320 --> 1:12:22.040 running the business and doing it the way we are, 1:12:22.160 --> 1:12:25.120 and now that the numbers have grown, when you have 1:12:25.240 --> 1:12:27.759 the ownership, like, there's a lot of cool things happening, 1:12:27.840 --> 1:12:29.960 and it can be really lucrative in a way where 1:12:30.160 --> 1:12:33.800 I'm not necessarily having to get exponentially more famous to 1:12:33.880 --> 1:12:36.960 make exponentially more money. Yeah, I'd rather have less fame, 1:12:37.320 --> 1:12:39.479 way less fame. The fame is the least cool part 1:12:39.560 --> 1:12:43.160 for me. I'd rather be sustainable, you know, be doing 1:12:43.280 --> 1:12:45.320 really well, taking care of my family and friends, but 1:12:45.400 --> 1:12:47.320 not necessarily having a fucking jump through hoops. 1:12:47.439 --> 1:12:47.560 You know. 1:12:47.760 --> 1:12:50.479 Yeah, that whole that whole question of what would rather 1:12:50.560 --> 1:12:52.840 have fame or money? It's kind of a it's a 1:12:52.840 --> 1:12:55.840 difficult question at times. The first thought is is money, 1:12:56.280 --> 1:12:59.040 But with fame, you can monetize that to make it money. 1:12:59.360 --> 1:12:59.960 You know what I'm saying. 1:13:00.320 --> 1:13:02.400 Fame intern can be money, and that's really when we 1:13:02.439 --> 1:13:04.680 talk about the record label paradigm, that's what they're doing. 1:13:04.760 --> 1:13:06.960 That's the commodity exchange. We're gonna make you so much 1:13:07.000 --> 1:13:10.800 more popular and notable. Your notoriety, your namesake will go 1:13:11.120 --> 1:13:13.280 the value will go so high that everything you do 1:13:13.439 --> 1:13:16.960 becomes money. I show up here, get twenty grand. Hey, hey, 1:13:17.160 --> 1:13:19.679 hold this thing in your fucking Instagram posts. You guys 1:13:19.760 --> 1:13:22.519 know the game, you know, like everything becomes money as 1:13:22.600 --> 1:13:23.880 your notoriety goes up. 1:13:24.400 --> 1:13:26.559 For me, I'm just not that type of dude. 1:13:26.720 --> 1:13:29.240 I don't really fucking I'm not mad if you come 1:13:29.320 --> 1:13:30.920 up and say hello, I'll be the guy who talked 1:13:30.920 --> 1:13:31.280 to you all. 1:13:31.240 --> 1:13:35.000 Day, you know, But I'm not Hey, how I'm gonna 1:13:35.000 --> 1:13:35.200 give it? 1:13:35.479 --> 1:13:37.599 How are you back? You know? But I don't really 1:13:37.680 --> 1:13:39.760 necessarily want to do a bunch of bullshit. I don't 1:13:39.800 --> 1:13:43.120 really I don't care about attention or fame at all. Really, 1:13:43.400 --> 1:13:46.719 And actually, if I take inventory of how I feel, 1:13:46.760 --> 1:13:48.640 I don't don't even really feel comfortable, you know, like 1:13:48.720 --> 1:13:50.680 it's not what gets my rocks off. You know. I 1:13:50.800 --> 1:13:53.240 love going out on stage. That's different, you know, like 1:13:53.280 --> 1:13:55.080 there's a connection that these fans are there for me. 1:13:55.520 --> 1:13:58.400 They've been fucking supporting me. I made this music, they 1:13:58.439 --> 1:14:01.240 connect with it. That's awesome. That's different. But I'm talking 1:14:01.240 --> 1:14:03.840 about going on this talk show and doing this, you know, 1:14:03.960 --> 1:14:06.240 and doing that, Like it's just not it's not what 1:14:06.360 --> 1:14:06.880 it is for me. 1:14:07.680 --> 1:14:08.760 No, it's not what it's about for me. 1:14:09.360 --> 1:14:10.040 Yeah, no question. 1:14:10.360 --> 1:14:12.200 This is huge, boys, Yeah, this is probably make more 1:14:12.200 --> 1:14:14.400 famous than anything this. We have massive numbers now I'm 1:14:14.439 --> 1:14:18.960 going this, Yeah, no question ahead. Sorry, I want to 1:14:18.960 --> 1:14:20.840 ask that one question about you and Post having an 1:14:20.840 --> 1:14:23.559 album together. You don't talk about like the necessary hoops 1:14:23.600 --> 1:14:25.360 you have to jump through, but like, what are hoops 1:14:25.400 --> 1:14:27.759 that you have to jump through when you're an independent 1:14:27.840 --> 1:14:29.400 artist with the biggest pop star in the world, Like 1:14:29.439 --> 1:14:32.479 how Like Yeah for me, I'm like, fuck, I'd love 1:14:32.520 --> 1:14:34.800 to hear that. Yeah, Like that's awesome. A love Post 1:14:34.960 --> 1:14:37.240 love you, Like, why wouldn't that be the greatest thing ever? 1:14:37.479 --> 1:14:40.240 Yeah, Just the business of it is essentially like when 1:14:40.280 --> 1:14:42.280 you sign a record deal, they more or less own 1:14:42.320 --> 1:14:44.160 your voice certain extent. 1:14:44.320 --> 1:14:48.040 So everything's just like you know, if. 1:14:47.880 --> 1:14:50.080 I'm an independent artist, I have to hop in bed 1:14:50.160 --> 1:14:52.200 and do business with the record label to put those 1:14:52.240 --> 1:14:54.800 songs out. Now, I'm willing to you know, I'm willing to, 1:14:55.640 --> 1:14:59.560 but these record labels have huge rosters with huge schedules, 1:14:59.600 --> 1:15:01.240 and Post is their biggest cash cow. 1:15:01.560 --> 1:15:03.720 They're working on his album, you know what I mean. 1:15:03.800 --> 1:15:07.400 So it's it's kind of a I'm more what's good 1:15:07.560 --> 1:15:09.439 is I have the only reason this even happened is 1:15:09.439 --> 1:15:12.639 because we're buddies. So Post has a strong enough voice 1:15:12.680 --> 1:15:14.360 to say, fuck it, we're doing this, you know what 1:15:14.360 --> 1:15:16.600 I mean. So that that's what I'm That's really what 1:15:16.680 --> 1:15:18.320 I'm going to need for it to see the light 1:15:18.400 --> 1:15:20.519 of day. And if it doesn't come out, you guys 1:15:20.600 --> 1:15:21.760 know Post didn't do that, so go. 1:15:22.800 --> 1:15:24.160 You know, it's on Posts. 1:15:24.200 --> 1:15:25.560 We'll have them on I'll call him right after this. 1:15:27.160 --> 1:15:29.360 But no, man, he's like the best guy ever. Really 1:15:29.479 --> 1:15:31.320 like we had it was a moment in time he 1:15:31.439 --> 1:15:34.040 was becoming very, very famous. He was a neighbor of 1:15:34.120 --> 1:15:36.360 mine in Los Angeles. I mean, we spent so much 1:15:36.400 --> 1:15:39.160 fucking time together and it was just had had a 1:15:39.200 --> 1:15:41.360 great experience and then we made some a lot of 1:15:41.360 --> 1:15:43.639 great songs together, you know, a handful of great songs together. 1:15:43.760 --> 1:15:46.200 So to answer your question, it's kind of up in 1:15:46.280 --> 1:15:48.720 the it's up in the air. It's all on Post Yeah. 1:15:48.760 --> 1:15:49.679 It's all on Post Yeah. 1:15:51.040 --> 1:15:53.639 Some of those things for us, like an uh independent artist, 1:15:53.720 --> 1:15:55.640 Like there's some non negotiables that you can't You're like, 1:15:56.120 --> 1:15:58.760 I understand that's how it usually is or traditionally is done. 1:15:59.000 --> 1:16:01.000 I just can't the thing. I'm not going to sign 1:16:01.040 --> 1:16:02.760 my name on the dotal line and do something like that. 1:16:03.040 --> 1:16:05.240 I'm not even like one of those dudes like power 1:16:05.320 --> 1:16:06.880 to the people, fuck the label, you. 1:16:06.880 --> 1:16:09.560 Know, Like it hasn't felt right for me for me 1:16:09.680 --> 1:16:11.400 to do a deal, and I know I could, I 1:16:11.439 --> 1:16:13.920 could say not with one hundred percent certainty, but I'm 1:16:13.960 --> 1:16:15.439 not going to do a record deal for me. You know. 1:16:16.000 --> 1:16:18.120 What I will say is like I have no problem 1:16:18.200 --> 1:16:20.960 doing record deal one off record deals for songs, you know. 1:16:21.120 --> 1:16:24.040 So I don't want to answer the question like I 1:16:24.080 --> 1:16:27.000 don't want to give them a piece of my overall business. Ever, 1:16:27.080 --> 1:16:29.240 I won't do that, you know, like like all my 1:16:29.400 --> 1:16:31.960 songs and everything I do going forward, that's where it 1:16:32.000 --> 1:16:35.160 gets messy, you know. But if every that's what I 1:16:35.240 --> 1:16:37.040 mean by getting in bed with his label, Like I'll 1:16:37.080 --> 1:16:39.160 do whatever because I know the value of doing a 1:16:39.200 --> 1:16:41.600 record with Post Malone, Like I know what and I 1:16:41.760 --> 1:16:43.800 just love the song. I want the song songs called 1:16:43.840 --> 1:16:45.680 die Bar. It's like an amazing song, you know, so 1:16:46.439 --> 1:16:48.320 it's it would just be really cool, and I know 1:16:48.439 --> 1:16:49.080 Post loves it. 1:16:49.160 --> 1:16:51.519 We went out for his birthday. I went out there. 1:16:51.600 --> 1:16:54.120 I just wrote and wrote the song and he heard 1:16:54.160 --> 1:16:56.400 it and he just fucking sang it right there and 1:16:56.479 --> 1:16:58.920 writing a fucking Airbnb that I had at the time 1:16:58.960 --> 1:17:00.360 in Utah, in Park City, Utah. 1:17:00.560 --> 1:17:02.000 So beautiful spot I've heard. 1:17:02.120 --> 1:17:06.000 Yeah, it's beautiful. Yes, we spent That was where like 1:17:06.080 --> 1:17:09.000 the whole no mad thing happened. I that was when 1:17:09.080 --> 1:17:10.800 COVID started. I went to when you were on the 1:17:10.840 --> 1:17:14.920 snow the snow area, Yeah that's and oh that was Montana, Yeah, Montana, 1:17:15.520 --> 1:17:17.760 but I went, I went it was Yellowstone before yellow 1:17:18.160 --> 1:17:18.799 Snow Area. 1:17:22.120 --> 1:17:24.360 That was tough fucking job. We just all brushed over 1:17:24.439 --> 1:17:27.120 it though, like it was nothing that I knew exactly. 1:17:28.840 --> 1:17:29.800 I know exactly what you mean. 1:17:30.479 --> 1:17:32.519 But yeah, I mean we went right when COVID started, 1:17:32.560 --> 1:17:34.280 went out, it was his birthday. We sat out there 1:17:34.320 --> 1:17:35.800 for a few months in Utah, and that was what 1:17:35.960 --> 1:17:37.320 opened my eyes. I was like, I gotta get the 1:17:37.320 --> 1:17:40.320 fuck out of Lam. I just felt better every day 1:17:40.400 --> 1:17:43.000 waking up, you know, it was like a literally like 1:17:43.080 --> 1:17:45.320 a just in the air felt better. 1:17:45.439 --> 1:17:47.040 So that that was kind of what pushed me over 1:17:47.080 --> 1:17:49.120 the edge. We sold the sold and left and we 1:17:49.160 --> 1:17:49.760 were on our way. 1:17:50.080 --> 1:17:51.880 When you're on the outside looking in on l A, 1:17:51.960 --> 1:17:55.280 you're like, wow, it seems beautiful, definitely hills, all the 1:17:55.280 --> 1:17:59.040 beautiful people, green weather, beaches and stuff like that. But 1:17:59.080 --> 1:18:00.519 the more time you spend there, the more people you 1:18:00.640 --> 1:18:03.040 hear talk about it's like kind of tough, but there 1:18:03.080 --> 1:18:04.920 are people that love it. Like Brendon shab was on 1:18:05.040 --> 1:18:07.160 the podcast and he said, he's like, you get what 1:18:07.240 --> 1:18:08.200 you pay for with the taxes. 1:18:08.200 --> 1:18:10.519 It's unbelievable. Look like, I don't know what Rogan's talking about. 1:18:10.560 --> 1:18:12.840 He doesn't fucking yeah, he doesn't encounter any of the 1:18:12.880 --> 1:18:15.520 bullshit he says, Yeah, Yeah, Brennan's. 1:18:15.160 --> 1:18:15.720 My fucking guy. 1:18:15.800 --> 1:18:16.240 He's the man. 1:18:16.320 --> 1:18:18.240 I mean he uh. 1:18:19.160 --> 1:18:21.360 It's it's like I think it was THEO Vaughn who 1:18:21.400 --> 1:18:25.160 said he said this really well. He said he likened 1:18:25.160 --> 1:18:28.880 it to a layover. Yeah, in LA it's like you go, 1:18:29.320 --> 1:18:31.960 you're not there for forever, You're not staying there, you know, 1:18:32.120 --> 1:18:33.960 and like everyone's kind of going there and trying to 1:18:34.000 --> 1:18:36.679 get something from the place. And it's not to say 1:18:36.720 --> 1:18:39.479 like the people like individually, like there's a lot of 1:18:39.520 --> 1:18:41.760 great people there. Like when people say other people suck 1:18:41.800 --> 1:18:44.400 in la like it's it's not like fair to give 1:18:44.439 --> 1:18:46.439 it a blanket generalize everybody. Yeah, it's not a blanket 1:18:46.479 --> 1:18:50.760 statement thing whatsoever, but the general vibe, it's kind of 1:18:50.880 --> 1:18:53.280 like it doesn't have a comfort, you know what I mean, 1:18:53.360 --> 1:18:55.920 there's no like comfort. Everyone's like trying to scale the 1:18:56.000 --> 1:19:00.240 wall and get higher. And oh, like the girl even 1:19:00.280 --> 1:19:03.320 girls like oh was that Beaver's last night? And Gezi's 1:19:03.400 --> 1:19:06.479 and then like it's just like always and and like 1:19:06.880 --> 1:19:10.280 it's legitimate because if they fuck around and you know, 1:19:11.320 --> 1:19:14.519 fuck Geezy that night, who he's fucking everyone and. 1:19:15.080 --> 1:19:19.240 And just know he means it, Yeah, and he means it. 1:19:20.560 --> 1:19:23.599 He's a good dude, great dude. But like there's there's 1:19:23.680 --> 1:19:27.360 opportunity there for these women. Not maybe maybe Jesus isn't 1:19:27.400 --> 1:19:29.080 the best example, but like you know what I mean. 1:19:29.160 --> 1:19:31.000 We'll say Geezy, but we don't mean Jesus. I don't 1:19:31.000 --> 1:19:31.360 even mean it. 1:19:31.439 --> 1:19:34.960 It's just yeah, like literally like there's opportunity for I mean, 1:19:35.000 --> 1:19:39.040 we talk about attention being monetized. Like I know girls 1:19:39.080 --> 1:19:41.320 that went out there were twenty thousand followers and got 1:19:41.360 --> 1:19:43.719 two million. Is because they dated a few guys. Yeah, 1:19:43.760 --> 1:19:45.760 you know what I'm saying, So like that's a real 1:19:45.840 --> 1:19:48.479 thing too, and could do that. It's just like the 1:19:48.520 --> 1:19:52.080 style of the well I'm that's what me and Micro 1:19:52.160 --> 1:19:52.599 doing right now. 1:19:52.880 --> 1:19:54.639 He d Kardashian for a couple of weeks. It's over 1:19:54.960 --> 1:19:55.400 Mic right now. 1:19:55.640 --> 1:19:56.840 Oh yeah, he's putting me on. 1:19:57.840 --> 1:19:59.880 My numbers are going up, and I'm gonna get it 1:20:00.240 --> 1:20:01.920 and I'm gonna go pick up Jeezy. 1:20:03.160 --> 1:20:03.640 Once I'm done. 1:20:03.680 --> 1:20:05.040 I'm on a world tour. It might be a little 1:20:05.080 --> 1:20:06.040 rough with you though, you never know. 1:20:06.160 --> 1:20:08.800 You know, what I'm saying is always greener. 1:20:09.880 --> 1:20:11.640 It's just the style out there in La Man. I 1:20:11.720 --> 1:20:13.599 mean you said, all right, individually, people can be great. 1:20:13.600 --> 1:20:15.280 I have a ton of friends out there. I miss 1:20:15.320 --> 1:20:17.720 it out there, but it's like the style of like 1:20:17.800 --> 1:20:20.920 the social life is just not not for me, you know. 1:20:21.120 --> 1:20:22.559 I feel like that can be said for most bake 1:20:22.600 --> 1:20:24.920 cities in a way that like you know, those just 1:20:24.960 --> 1:20:26.680 pass over people, Like if your life's a movie and 1:20:26.680 --> 1:20:28.439 you're just walking down the street, there's people you're gonna 1:20:28.439 --> 1:20:30.400 see that you never are gonna see again. Then you 1:20:30.479 --> 1:20:32.880 go into these bars and you meet people and it's 1:20:32.960 --> 1:20:35.200 like I know this person, I know that person, I'm 1:20:35.240 --> 1:20:35.920 fucking this person. 1:20:36.040 --> 1:20:36.360 Whatever. 1:20:36.960 --> 1:20:38.560 But the more you like kind of dive in. This 1:20:38.640 --> 1:20:40.000 is kind of how it was for me in Nashville 1:20:40.000 --> 1:20:42.000 when I first get here, your first round draft pick, 1:20:42.360 --> 1:20:44.000 and everybody wants to tell you who they know or 1:20:44.080 --> 1:20:46.800 how basically giving them your resume of why you guys 1:20:46.800 --> 1:20:50.760 should be friends, right, and then you kind of think, oh, man, 1:20:50.880 --> 1:20:53.800 Nashville is just a superficial town and it's no close 1:20:53.840 --> 1:20:55.479 to LA. But I feel like New York's like that, 1:20:56.160 --> 1:20:58.400 like that National is becoming that. But the more you 1:20:58.520 --> 1:21:00.920 live in a spot, the more you're exactly what you're 1:21:00.920 --> 1:21:03.519 saying is you find those people you're will comptence where 1:21:03.520 --> 1:21:04.840 you're like, oh, these are my fucking boy. 1:21:05.400 --> 1:21:07.600 Yeah yeah, I mean yeah, I was in I was 1:21:07.640 --> 1:21:09.640 in LA for like five or six years, and I 1:21:09.800 --> 1:21:12.040 was like, you know, when I left, I had the 1:21:12.120 --> 1:21:14.840 same core friend group. Sure, I made a bunch of 1:21:14.880 --> 1:21:16.760 other friends, but I had the same core you know, 1:21:17.040 --> 1:21:19.160 ten fifteen dudes that I hung out with. And then 1:21:19.200 --> 1:21:21.680 as I'm like watching all the all the homegirls that 1:21:21.760 --> 1:21:24.360 I made, like they're on their thirtieth friend group, like 1:21:24.479 --> 1:21:25.880 over the five or six years, you know they're on. 1:21:25.920 --> 1:21:27.519 I think women have a much tougher time than then 1:21:27.760 --> 1:21:30.120 when it comes back to friendships in. 1:21:30.280 --> 1:21:32.760 La, it's it's tough, bro's you know, you'll get chewed 1:21:32.840 --> 1:21:34.400 up and spit out quick. 1:21:34.640 --> 1:21:37.080 It's a tough lit area, big glasses, not wearing a 1:21:37.120 --> 1:21:38.400 lot of clothes, got to stand shape. 1:21:38.439 --> 1:21:41.120 Everybody's tall. Well, how about you go to will for 1:21:41.160 --> 1:21:44.479 a second. How is tell us about being a new 1:21:44.560 --> 1:21:47.880 father man, We're we're in. 1:21:47.880 --> 1:21:50.160 The trenches a little bit. I know it's not everybody 1:21:50.200 --> 1:21:52.400 says it gets worse. So I'm just always prepared for 1:21:52.439 --> 1:21:53.800 the worst home for the best type of thing. But 1:21:54.400 --> 1:21:57.960 sleep is minimal. But it's been awesome, bro, Like my wife, 1:21:58.040 --> 1:21:59.760 she's been crushing Charles's been shout out trying no free 1:21:59.760 --> 1:22:02.680 shot to trow she's been crushing it. 1:22:02.800 --> 1:22:06.479 We've been communicating well, like we're just like a team 1:22:06.600 --> 1:22:10.439 dude and baby. Yeah, sirule and I almost forget her day. Yeah, 1:22:10.800 --> 1:22:15.560 but I'm just saying, like, you know, you kind of 1:22:15.640 --> 1:22:16.559 don't know, you know what I mean? 1:22:16.640 --> 1:22:18.120 Like both of you are kind of sitting there. You know, 1:22:18.800 --> 1:22:20.759 you're not going to know how to approach the situation. 1:22:21.080 --> 1:22:23.600 Like we're we feel like we've we like prepare for 1:22:23.680 --> 1:22:25.439 certain things that happen. If it doesn't happen, here's playing, 1:22:25.479 --> 1:22:26.800 b here's playing. See, here's what we're gonna do. 1:22:26.880 --> 1:22:29.400 We talk ahead of time like it's just been awesome, dude, 1:22:29.680 --> 1:22:31.600 Like she'll take a like a look, we went to 1:22:32.439 --> 1:22:35.000 Tennessee yesterday, so I was going all the University of Tennessee, 1:22:35.240 --> 1:22:37.000 the University of Tennessee for a bus and spring tour. 1:22:37.520 --> 1:22:38.960 You should all take like the first half of the 1:22:39.040 --> 1:22:41.880 night shift, like yesterday, I took like the second half 1:22:41.880 --> 1:22:43.160 because I know I'll be up, I'll be gone all 1:22:43.240 --> 1:22:43.840 day and stuff like that. 1:22:43.960 --> 1:22:46.240 We get back, I take the baby. But your fatherhood 1:22:46.240 --> 1:22:48.120 has been awesome. It's been a little bit of a grind. 1:22:48.160 --> 1:22:51.120 But yeah, she's a stud. She cries sometimes a little 1:22:51.160 --> 1:22:52.479 too much, and you. 1:22:52.479 --> 1:22:55.000 Guys, yeah, tell her to shut up. 1:22:55.160 --> 1:22:57.400 Yeah, I'll whisper in her ear. You stuck her too 1:22:57.479 --> 1:22:59.439 much yet I haven't shook her too much. Like, hey, 1:22:59.479 --> 1:23:01.080 you gotta take this passive fire motherfucker. 1:23:02.400 --> 1:23:03.439 Well it's in the morning. 1:23:03.520 --> 1:23:07.840 Take the god, damn past Will I will Now. 1:23:08.400 --> 1:23:10.240 What I will say is I respect how you've been 1:23:10.320 --> 1:23:14.000 monetizing the baby. Dude, monetize the baby. We texted about this. 1:23:14.920 --> 1:23:18.559 It's a very a lot of different opinions about monetizing baby, 1:23:19.280 --> 1:23:20.160 and I'm respecting. 1:23:20.479 --> 1:23:21.240 You should have go with it. 1:23:21.280 --> 1:23:21.360 Bro. 1:23:21.439 --> 1:23:23.720 You should have heard how he said. We were talking about, Well, yo, will, 1:23:23.720 --> 1:23:25.080 you're gonna come to the show on the nineteenth. He 1:23:25.120 --> 1:23:27.639 goes a man like, I got this thing. You're talking 1:23:27.640 --> 1:23:29.960 about your baby. You have a father, and you got 1:23:30.000 --> 1:23:30.760 this new thing I'm doing. 1:23:30.960 --> 1:23:31.960 Yeah, yeah, I'm a dad. 1:23:32.080 --> 1:23:34.200 Now she'll enjoyed the show. 1:23:34.240 --> 1:23:36.479 Bringers, we have to you know, hold her up her 1:23:36.520 --> 1:23:39.160 on stage, monetize the baby. We put a chuck but 1:23:39.280 --> 1:23:39.679 in her hand. 1:23:39.760 --> 1:23:41.880 I mean that's how that's how you rationalize it to 1:23:41.920 --> 1:23:44.320 the wife said, fucking feed her? 1:23:44.400 --> 1:23:46.960 You know? Do you like? You like this home? We 1:23:47.040 --> 1:23:48.960 got a new opportunity, maybe can make its own income. 1:23:49.439 --> 1:23:52.400 Now you're winning. You're sitting costs right, you're bringing three 1:23:52.439 --> 1:23:53.559 incomes now exactly. 1:23:53.720 --> 1:23:56.120 But it's been awesome, man, it's uh, it's definitely new 1:23:56.360 --> 1:23:59.080 learning stuff every day with it. But you yes, Rulian's 1:23:59.080 --> 1:24:01.120 been awesome and knock on wood that she stays pretty 1:24:01.160 --> 1:24:01.720 dope about it. 1:24:01.880 --> 1:24:03.559 Yeah, but uh it's been good, bro. 1:24:04.760 --> 1:24:07.559 And the baby's crazy with with When my first kid, 1:24:08.120 --> 1:24:09.880 that first couple of weeks, I remember just being in 1:24:09.960 --> 1:24:11.960 the corner of a room to kind of like take 1:24:11.960 --> 1:24:14.800 away all outside like influences of her keeping her up 1:24:14.880 --> 1:24:17.640 and just like standing and just kind of like rocking her. 1:24:17.760 --> 1:24:17.920 Yeah. 1:24:17.960 --> 1:24:19.320 I sit there and do that steady and just like 1:24:19.439 --> 1:24:21.760 kind of like just waiting after a night sing her 1:24:21.760 --> 1:24:23.720 a couple of mics, so just sing whatever song's coming over. 1:24:24.080 --> 1:24:25.559 Yeah, Like if we're texting, it would be a mic 1:24:25.600 --> 1:24:26.120 song or something. 1:24:26.160 --> 1:24:28.160 But it's like getting. 1:24:31.240 --> 1:24:33.560 And when I'm sitting there and I'm getting like you know, 1:24:33.720 --> 1:24:36.080 whether it's frustration or not just being tired. But I'll 1:24:36.080 --> 1:24:37.560 sit there and just think to myself, like, Yo, this 1:24:37.640 --> 1:24:39.519 is gonna be the only time I have like my 1:24:39.600 --> 1:24:42.800 firstborn kid in my hand. So like everybody says, change 1:24:42.800 --> 1:24:44.640 the extra diaper, like do all this stuff, I have 1:24:44.800 --> 1:24:46.880 embrace as much as the bullshit as you can because 1:24:47.040 --> 1:24:49.320 it only happened one time. Not to like, you know, 1:24:49.400 --> 1:24:52.400 put the second child behind the eight ball, but the 1:24:52.479 --> 1:24:54.960 first new the only newborn, the first I'll ever have, 1:24:55.160 --> 1:24:56.559 and it's like, you've got to enjoy those times. 1:24:56.720 --> 1:24:58.320 You do get a little cocky at the second child. 1:24:58.920 --> 1:24:59.960 I think this before. 1:25:00.560 --> 1:25:02.639 Yeah, like I'm a mess. I'm the fourth ye boy, 1:25:02.960 --> 1:25:03.559 have two kids? 1:25:03.680 --> 1:25:06.240 Yeah, you the fourth the fourth guy. Yeah, I feel 1:25:06.240 --> 1:25:06.840 like the fourth one. 1:25:06.880 --> 1:25:09.479 The lady is like, don't even come on whenever, just 1:25:09.600 --> 1:25:13.519 don't figured out. Yeah, he's like, keeping you alive. 1:25:13.640 --> 1:25:15.720 It's any cigarettes. When'm tired, He's like, here, just get 1:25:15.720 --> 1:25:16.920 out there. Man, you're pussing me all. 1:25:17.320 --> 1:25:19.640 It makes more sense now why Mike's kind of fothering you. 1:25:20.240 --> 1:25:22.479 You got need someone, need to actually ship together. It 1:25:22.600 --> 1:25:24.559 was time. I needed directly said it was time. 1:25:24.720 --> 1:25:25.439 It would have it could have. 1:25:25.439 --> 1:25:26.920 Gone off the train and could have got off the tracks. 1:25:27.000 --> 1:25:28.479 You know what I mean, dude. 1:25:29.240 --> 1:25:31.719 You guys been making some headlines. Yeah, I actually stoked 1:25:31.760 --> 1:25:32.160 to have you on. 1:25:32.360 --> 1:25:34.799 Like the day after all of the headlines of Baker Mayfield, 1:25:35.080 --> 1:25:36.839 he came on the You Never Know podcast. 1:25:36.920 --> 1:25:38.639 Go download, subscribe to it. It's phenomenal. 1:25:38.680 --> 1:25:39.000 It's great. 1:25:39.479 --> 1:25:40.640 Listen to that whole episode. 1:25:40.840 --> 1:25:44.320 Yes, but yeah, you guys been making some waves out there, 1:25:44.400 --> 1:25:46.240 some highs or lows depending on how you see. 1:25:46.240 --> 1:25:46.760 I saw you too. 1:25:46.840 --> 1:25:47.479 The twitter as well. 1:25:47.680 --> 1:25:49.880 Yeah, my thought was kind of when I was listening 1:25:50.000 --> 1:25:52.880 he said, was it would you say, like, are you, 1:25:53.120 --> 1:25:54.680 uh fe disrespected? 1:25:54.760 --> 1:25:56.600 Someone's got to ask the hard question. Yeah, I know, 1:25:57.040 --> 1:25:58.760 I'm talking to myself. Once you askedaid, oh, you know, 1:25:59.040 --> 1:25:59.800 you know that's gonna go. 1:26:00.000 --> 1:26:01.759 But it's an obvious question to ask in the situation 1:26:01.880 --> 1:26:04.720 Baker's in, like anybody, and everybody's gonna feel disrespected. 1:26:04.800 --> 1:26:06.040 I agree, but yeah, you know. 1:26:06.360 --> 1:26:09.920 I mean, look me me And the thing with my 1:26:10.120 --> 1:26:13.439 podcast is like, you know, obviously I'm a musician first, 1:26:13.520 --> 1:26:16.639 and you know, got got a lot of business stuff 1:26:16.680 --> 1:26:19.680 going on, and the podcast is actually one of the 1:26:19.760 --> 1:26:22.880 most free and easy things for me. Like I don't 1:26:23.439 --> 1:26:25.880 It's just another thing in our world, and I love 1:26:26.000 --> 1:26:28.599 doing it. I love sitting down and having conversations with people. 1:26:28.640 --> 1:26:31.160 I love it, you know, And I feel like nowadays 1:26:31.240 --> 1:26:33.560 you don't really get the chance to just if the 1:26:33.640 --> 1:26:35.799 cameras weren't on, Like we wouldn't be having this conversation. 1:26:35.920 --> 1:26:37.880 Someone your wife would call something, you know. 1:26:37.880 --> 1:26:39.960 What I mean, Like, yeah, it's just that that thing, 1:26:40.080 --> 1:26:42.680 you know, and you more in the moment, right, And 1:26:42.720 --> 1:26:45.240 I have a great I have a great group of buddies, 1:26:45.360 --> 1:26:48.280 like whether it's because I have the athlete background or 1:26:48.400 --> 1:26:51.280 just I think the athletes gravitated to my music more 1:26:51.320 --> 1:26:54.080 so than any other group of people. So you know, 1:26:54.200 --> 1:26:56.400 I've cultivated a really cool network and it felt like 1:26:56.439 --> 1:26:59.240 a no brainer to do the podcast. And like this example, 1:26:59.560 --> 1:27:01.680 I just went on Instagram and talked about it a 1:27:01.680 --> 1:27:04.120 little bit because everyone's just like it pisses me off, 1:27:04.320 --> 1:27:06.560 you know, I get I get pissed off with like 1:27:06.640 --> 1:27:09.719 sports media. I know you guys are technically technically sports 1:27:09.800 --> 1:27:11.840 media in a way. Don't put us in that fucking 1:27:11.960 --> 1:27:14.000 you're not though you're not. I was just I was 1:27:14.040 --> 1:27:16.240 just gonna say, though you guys hear that clicks. It's 1:27:16.280 --> 1:27:18.760 the same thing though, like you guys are at you 1:27:18.800 --> 1:27:21.479 guys are, You're one of them, so they that's why 1:27:21.600 --> 1:27:23.720 you guys are winning. And you're getting more and more 1:27:23.760 --> 1:27:26.600 guys coming on and just having real conversations because they 1:27:26.640 --> 1:27:28.879 don't want to go sit across from fucking skip baylists 1:27:28.920 --> 1:27:32.680 and get pride and my get pride for answers and 1:27:32.760 --> 1:27:36.800 clickbait and things, and and like my, what bothers me 1:27:36.840 --> 1:27:39.720 about it? Is like we had a ninety minute conversation, 1:27:40.520 --> 1:27:42.760 and I thought it shined an incredible light on him 1:27:42.800 --> 1:27:44.519 who he is. I love Baker, like he's one of 1:27:44.600 --> 1:27:48.880 my good friends, and and you know, just to see that, 1:27:49.360 --> 1:27:51.920 like it's just such a clear story that that what 1:27:52.120 --> 1:27:54.719 what the media does? You know? Like they took fucking 1:27:55.200 --> 1:27:58.200 two soundbites that were like ten fifteen seconds long, and 1:27:58.360 --> 1:28:01.960 in the same breath he goes like when he said disrespected, 1:28:02.200 --> 1:28:04.240 like he goes, but that's part of the business, right, 1:28:04.560 --> 1:28:05.240 in the same breath. 1:28:05.280 --> 1:28:06.719 Well, and the same thing with him in the cubicle 1:28:06.800 --> 1:28:08.439 saying the cubicle thing. He goes, I probably shouldn't have 1:28:08.439 --> 1:28:10.479 said that. He's like, you know, he's like, obviously you can't, 1:28:10.520 --> 1:28:13.479 you shouldn't, but he's just like right, he said things 1:28:13.600 --> 1:28:14.040 and then was. 1:28:14.040 --> 1:28:17.120 Like I didn't need to do that, And like, there's 1:28:17.240 --> 1:28:19.840 just I don't know anyone who with any fucking savvy 1:28:19.960 --> 1:28:24.240 whatsoever who doesn't have, you know, an ulterior motive or 1:28:24.520 --> 1:28:27.599 a preconceived notion. Like even if you had a preconceived notion, 1:28:27.680 --> 1:28:29.680 I've gotten thousands of messages being like, yo, thank you 1:28:29.800 --> 1:28:30.320 for showing him. 1:28:30.439 --> 1:28:32.599 Like I didn't like Baker before then he was an asshole. 1:28:32.640 --> 1:28:34.839 It was like that with us and Johnny Manziel exactly, 1:28:35.040 --> 1:28:36.559 And that's why I did the thing ballll on line 1:28:36.600 --> 1:28:37.040 with Johnny. 1:28:37.120 --> 1:28:39.559 He's like, I have a weird vantage point with these 1:28:39.560 --> 1:28:41.720 guys where I fucking see him for who they are 1:28:41.840 --> 1:28:44.160 really like, yeah, they fucked up and or if they've 1:28:44.160 --> 1:28:46.720 done something wrong or whatever. I don't judge people off 1:28:46.720 --> 1:28:48.600 their mistakes. I don't think anyone should be judged off 1:28:48.640 --> 1:28:49.600 their mistakes. 1:28:49.200 --> 1:28:49.320 You know. 1:28:49.479 --> 1:28:53.280 So it's just corny, Like I hate I hate sports media. 1:28:53.400 --> 1:28:56.120 It's actually firing me up to care a little bit 1:28:56.160 --> 1:28:58.519 more about sports. Like we've talked about it, like if 1:28:58.600 --> 1:29:00.920 I wanted to want when one of my buddies, like 1:29:01.000 --> 1:29:03.160 I could fly around every week and get a crazy 1:29:03.200 --> 1:29:06.360 sit down with everyone. I don't like the ironic. The 1:29:06.560 --> 1:29:08.920 irony of this entire thing. Was the only reason that 1:29:09.000 --> 1:29:11.840 podcast happened right then is because I was moving. He's 1:29:11.880 --> 1:29:14.559 my neighbor. Yeah, so I was just like, we've been 1:29:14.600 --> 1:29:16.160 talking about doing it, and I was about to leave, 1:29:16.200 --> 1:29:18.280 We're about to go on tour, so come to Nashville. 1:29:18.320 --> 1:29:20.080 So he's like, yeah, let's do it. And he had 1:29:20.120 --> 1:29:20.840 wanted to do it, you. 1:29:20.840 --> 1:29:22.439 Know, like it was kind of his like he hit me. 1:29:22.640 --> 1:29:24.880 We were out, you know, he was over and we're like, yo, 1:29:25.000 --> 1:29:26.920 let's do it next week. So the podcast in Nashville 1:29:26.960 --> 1:29:27.320 or Austin. 1:29:27.400 --> 1:29:30.160 In Austin and he was like five houses down, you know. 1:29:30.320 --> 1:29:33.240 So it like every interview I've ever had, it's just 1:29:33.360 --> 1:29:35.360 one of my buddies. It's happenstance that were in the 1:29:35.400 --> 1:29:37.479 same place. I've never been like, hey, do you want 1:29:37.479 --> 1:29:40.280 to come on? You know, like fly them out or whatever, 1:29:40.360 --> 1:29:43.120 none of that shit, you know. So that's kind of 1:29:43.160 --> 1:29:46.519 the nature of the whole thing. And we knew we 1:29:46.640 --> 1:29:48.320 knew it was probably going to be a thing. I 1:29:48.400 --> 1:29:50.880 just didn't I didn't see it going as I watched 1:29:50.920 --> 1:29:52.599 that episode and before we put it out, I didn't 1:29:52.640 --> 1:29:55.320 see like people demonizing him the way they are, and 1:29:55.439 --> 1:29:57.479 it's just pissing me off, you know, like he's. 1:29:57.400 --> 1:29:59.240 Got it doesn't seem like they're being deep. I'm sorry, 1:29:59.240 --> 1:30:02.080 I interrupted might be aggressive. Well, I isn't think. 1:30:02.160 --> 1:30:05.519 I don't think people are demonizing him because what people 1:30:05.560 --> 1:30:08.200 are saying about the Johnny Manzel podcast we did. I 1:30:08.280 --> 1:30:11.439 don't know Baker Mayfield. I love the antics some unantics guy. 1:30:11.560 --> 1:30:13.719 So when he's doing the doing the fucking nut grab 1:30:13.800 --> 1:30:15.080 thing against Kentucky and all that. 1:30:15.320 --> 1:30:16.200 Yeah, talking shit. 1:30:16.360 --> 1:30:17.160 I like that. 1:30:17.280 --> 1:30:19.719 I think, oh, that's cool, Like because if he's walking 1:30:19.800 --> 1:30:23.200 in talking and I think, Uh, when I was watching 1:30:23.400 --> 1:30:27.559 that podcast, here in his his struggles of uh being 1:30:27.600 --> 1:30:30.040 at Texas Tech and then having to leave and go 1:30:30.160 --> 1:30:33.080 to Norman for a month and a half and just 1:30:33.120 --> 1:30:34.840 play Rex Sports and then finally get to meet the 1:30:34.880 --> 1:30:38.000 coach when it gets cleared all that shit, and you're like, dude, 1:30:38.040 --> 1:30:38.920 this dude's been through it. 1:30:38.960 --> 1:30:40.840 And then you go listen to the mainstream. 1:30:40.360 --> 1:30:43.439 Media of Sports Center Skip whoever it is entitled Ehether, 1:30:43.479 --> 1:30:45.760 he's entitled. He's never dealt with issues. He was numb 1:30:45.760 --> 1:30:48.400 one over packs lay Bro. Regardless of what you like, 1:30:48.600 --> 1:30:50.400 how many stars you are, everyone has a different journey, 1:30:50.400 --> 1:30:53.200 but there's always adversity regardless, And that's kind of the 1:30:53.280 --> 1:30:56.000 issue is people want to frame up people. People could 1:30:56.000 --> 1:30:56.920 look at me and be like, oh, he's the first 1:30:56.960 --> 1:30:58.280 round pick, he's made Pro Bowls, he was the highest 1:30:58.280 --> 1:31:00.120 pay at one point. It's like yeah, but there's all 1:31:00.160 --> 1:31:02.639 adversities you go through. They might not be as as 1:31:02.960 --> 1:31:05.200 dramatic as this next guy or something like that, but 1:31:05.280 --> 1:31:08.080 every day's adversity and with more stuff like more. 1:31:08.320 --> 1:31:09.840 Was it what's a Spider Man line? 1:31:10.240 --> 1:31:11.600 Where it's like with what we talked about it the 1:31:11.640 --> 1:31:14.960 other day, with more power becomes more responsibility and you 1:31:15.040 --> 1:31:17.680 know what I'm saying, Will's tired, don't don't ask, and 1:31:17.760 --> 1:31:22.920 he will Will's Will's happened this conversation the place with 1:31:23.000 --> 1:31:30.760 the snow, But it does it shed a light on 1:31:30.880 --> 1:31:32.080 Baker that I enjoyed. 1:31:32.200 --> 1:31:32.639 I don't matter. 1:31:32.680 --> 1:31:34.240 I don't watch a lot of podcasts, but I saw 1:31:34.320 --> 1:31:35.840 that and I was like, it's making headlines. Let me 1:31:35.920 --> 1:31:37.720 see and you love me so I do love you 1:31:37.800 --> 1:31:39.680 to death? And you see but you see like what 1:31:39.960 --> 1:31:41.679 ESPN is saying and you're like, damn, like he really 1:31:41.760 --> 1:31:42.920 just said that, And you go look at it and 1:31:42.960 --> 1:31:45.560 you're like, he didn't really fucking say that. Yeah, it 1:31:45.680 --> 1:31:47.320 was words came out of his mouth, but the context 1:31:47.360 --> 1:31:48.760 of what you're saying it in it's like you're making 1:31:48.800 --> 1:31:49.920 it way worse than it is and like. 1:31:49.960 --> 1:31:52.280 Framing it like he was like saying it seriously. He 1:31:52.400 --> 1:31:55.280 was like, you know, like he said it, yeah, breath, 1:31:55.320 --> 1:31:57.800 you know, and we're laughing and it's just like we're 1:31:57.840 --> 1:32:01.560 talking about you know there's there's I think there's a 1:32:01.600 --> 1:32:04.040 lot of delusion in the we talk about this a lot, 1:32:04.160 --> 1:32:06.439 like the sports fans, like he's a huge sports fan. 1:32:06.479 --> 1:32:10.160 I'm just like, you don't call yourself a sportsna because 1:32:10.320 --> 1:32:11.479 do you feel do you feel like me? 1:32:11.600 --> 1:32:12.280 You love sports? 1:32:12.320 --> 1:32:12.360 No? 1:32:12.479 --> 1:32:14.479 I love sports like I sit down sports to sit 1:32:14.560 --> 1:32:15.439 down and watch sports. 1:32:15.479 --> 1:32:19.040 I'm saying the sports fans relationship to the teams, the players. 1:32:19.479 --> 1:32:21.760 I mean, you guys can probably connect with this. It's 1:32:21.880 --> 1:32:27.760 just like the ownership. I believe the entitlements backwards, like, oh, 1:32:27.800 --> 1:32:31.160 you get paid millions of dollars, man, like, fucking suck 1:32:31.200 --> 1:32:33.640 it up, like one you're not paying their fucking you 1:32:33.720 --> 1:32:36.719 know what I mean. Like these guys worked their entire 1:32:36.880 --> 1:32:39.760 lives while you guys were bullshitting going through your childhood 1:32:40.160 --> 1:32:42.840 having your fucking first drinks and your parties and doing 1:32:42.880 --> 1:32:45.559 this shit and going to college and doing that. These guys, 1:32:46.160 --> 1:32:48.800 like as much as you could argue God's gifts, you know, 1:32:49.600 --> 1:32:53.280 there's there's so much diligence and discipline sacrifice to become 1:32:53.360 --> 1:32:56.240 the greatest, like to become good enough to be at 1:32:56.280 --> 1:32:59.639 that level in that you are not don't compare yourself 1:32:59.640 --> 1:33:01.920 to No, you won't trade jobs with them because they've 1:33:02.000 --> 1:33:05.840 actually been working their entire lives to be and and 1:33:06.520 --> 1:33:09.120 just because you're living in a region where the fucking 1:33:09.160 --> 1:33:11.320 they get drafted to that team, why do you feel 1:33:11.479 --> 1:33:13.760 entitled to tell them how their human experiences? 1:33:14.439 --> 1:33:15.720 Like, I just don't I get it. 1:33:15.960 --> 1:33:18.519 I love it. I know sports as a staple in 1:33:18.600 --> 1:33:21.000 American society and in the world, Like, I think it's 1:33:21.479 --> 1:33:23.439 very probably the best form of entertainment. 1:33:23.600 --> 1:33:27.520 We have music and sports and heating up with the Kardashians. 1:33:27.560 --> 1:33:30.240 Those three things are really TV, not so much those 1:33:30.280 --> 1:33:31.320 things really boxing in. 1:33:33.280 --> 1:33:35.880 Really getting impactful in people's lives, and sports, like there's 1:33:35.880 --> 1:33:38.759 a lot of power, powerful moments and emotions and sports. 1:33:38.840 --> 1:33:41.559 I totally I'm not downplaying it, and I'm entertained when 1:33:41.600 --> 1:33:43.599 I sit down and watch a game, you know, I'm 1:33:43.680 --> 1:33:45.519 just not people aren't even living their own lives. 1:33:45.560 --> 1:33:48.920 These guys, we have this joke, like they're not living 1:33:48.960 --> 1:33:49.439 their own lives. 1:33:50.280 --> 1:33:52.400 You get they get so attached to it becomes part 1:33:52.439 --> 1:33:54.519 of their being, and they they're fucking angered. And then 1:33:54.520 --> 1:33:56.240 now they're rude to their wife and their kids because 1:33:56.280 --> 1:33:58.200 the team lost. It's just I don't I don't. I 1:33:58.200 --> 1:33:58.959 think it's fucking. 1:34:01.040 --> 1:34:12.200 I'm thinking it's backwards, and it's backwards. 1:34:15.240 --> 1:34:16.600 I haven't seen Mike is fired up. 1:34:16.640 --> 1:34:19.680 And to be honest with you, like I don't think 1:34:19.720 --> 1:34:22.040 you're wrong, but I think in a lot of ways, 1:34:22.400 --> 1:34:25.479 like mainstream media, there's necessary evils that come into play. 1:34:26.200 --> 1:34:29.599 Having the passion of fans. You know, when we lost 1:34:29.640 --> 1:34:31.960 to the Bengals in the division game, you couldn't talk 1:34:31.960 --> 1:34:32.400 to Jack. 1:34:32.240 --> 1:34:32.960 Garrett for a week. 1:34:33.040 --> 1:34:33.800 They were so hurt. 1:34:34.400 --> 1:34:37.040 And it's like totally driving force of people growing up 1:34:37.080 --> 1:34:40.120 and deciding I'm going to be this fan. Is has 1:34:40.200 --> 1:34:42.040 propelled us as athletes to be able to make the 1:34:42.080 --> 1:34:43.400 amount of money we have to have the kind of 1:34:43.439 --> 1:34:46.040 eyes we have on us now, the opinion stuff, that's 1:34:46.240 --> 1:34:48.400 that's where the that little blue bird that we like 1:34:48.439 --> 1:34:50.879 to tweet on, that's where it gets a little difficult 1:34:50.880 --> 1:34:53.280 because now everyone can say how how they feel exactly. 1:34:53.400 --> 1:34:57.120 It's like you can say we when we love when 1:34:57.360 --> 1:34:59.720 the players loose, when the coaches and the players lose 1:34:59.760 --> 1:35:02.800 the game, but it's really not we, you know what 1:35:02.840 --> 1:35:04.800 I'm saying, Like you are a part of it, but 1:35:04.920 --> 1:35:07.120 at the same time, like we have to do it right. 1:35:07.160 --> 1:35:08.720 And if you're gonna if you start coming at us, 1:35:08.760 --> 1:35:10.559 that's like it doesn't do anything. 1:35:10.640 --> 1:35:12.479 I'm totally with you like this, this is just my 1:35:12.600 --> 1:35:15.320 opinion where I'm talking about like life, you know what 1:35:15.360 --> 1:35:16.960 i mean. When I'm when I'm when I'm thinking about 1:35:17.040 --> 1:35:19.479 like my being as a person. This is my outlook 1:35:19.520 --> 1:35:21.680 on it, you know, like I'm not. I've never been 1:35:21.720 --> 1:35:24.439 a person who's been fucking impacted when the team I 1:35:24.520 --> 1:35:26.280 played at Duke, you know, like the team won the 1:35:26.360 --> 1:35:29.680 national championship, Everyone's going nuts, and I'm like, you know, 1:35:29.760 --> 1:35:30.839 it's just me personally. 1:35:30.920 --> 1:35:32.280 You know, I'm mad they did without you. But I 1:35:32.400 --> 1:35:35.240 totally understand. And that's totally what you say. I said, 1:35:35.240 --> 1:35:37.280 you're mad they did without you. But yeah, exactly, yeah, 1:35:37.520 --> 1:35:39.080 exactly exactly. 1:35:39.760 --> 1:35:41.640 I just that's just me as a person. But like 1:35:41.920 --> 1:35:44.800 that's such a valid point. Without the passion, it goes 1:35:44.880 --> 1:35:45.400 both ways. 1:35:45.680 --> 1:35:48.200 They can escape, right and you know, like you know as. 1:35:48.080 --> 1:35:50.479 Well as anybody anybody who's coming who's coming at you 1:35:50.600 --> 1:35:53.720 on Twitter, any social media like it. If it's real, 1:35:53.840 --> 1:35:56.439 it says more about the person and if it's affecting 1:35:56.439 --> 1:35:58.679 you in a certain way, like Baker, what I respected 1:35:58.720 --> 1:36:01.160 about Bakers even though saying all that stuff, like Baker 1:36:01.320 --> 1:36:03.960 knows who he is and what kind of status is 1:36:04.000 --> 1:36:06.840 around him. He knows that on your podcast, like there's 1:36:06.960 --> 1:36:08.960 gonna be headlines regardless of. 1:36:08.960 --> 1:36:10.280 What he says, even you to say there's tw clips, 1:36:10.280 --> 1:36:11.360 there's gonna be something else taken. 1:36:11.439 --> 1:36:13.600 But he's gonna play with you because he you know, 1:36:13.760 --> 1:36:15.880 he trusts you, and he knows what's coming out of 1:36:15.920 --> 1:36:18.000 his mouth. And like he said, whether or not it's true, 1:36:18.040 --> 1:36:20.040 it's it's it's up to him, like it's all on him, 1:36:20.120 --> 1:36:21.600 but he he understands that. 1:36:21.640 --> 1:36:22.639 I feel like the way he gives. 1:36:22.520 --> 1:36:24.880 A final say too, like do you know if Baker 1:36:24.920 --> 1:36:27.080 goes on any of those like skip any of those guys, 1:36:27.160 --> 1:36:30.000 like if he accidentally says something, he doesn't get to 1:36:30.040 --> 1:36:31.960 come back after and be like yo, don't put that 1:36:32.040 --> 1:36:33.240 out like they're waiting for that moment. 1:36:33.720 --> 1:36:35.240 But Mike, you guys the opportunity. 1:36:35.439 --> 1:36:38.280 Yeah, did you guys get him with everyone every Yeah, 1:36:38.360 --> 1:36:40.040 that that goes to show you even more he just 1:36:40.160 --> 1:36:43.120 doesn't give a like he doesn't really give a fuck. 1:36:43.200 --> 1:36:45.439 He cares, He cares enough to say he doesn't want 1:36:45.479 --> 1:36:48.040 to say anything bad. Obviously he doesn't want to upset anybody. 1:36:48.400 --> 1:36:51.080 But to your point, he knows himself. You know, he's 1:36:51.120 --> 1:36:53.400 comfortable when talking to his marketing guys are just like oo, 1:36:53.560 --> 1:36:55.280 like this will be a this will be a it 1:36:55.280 --> 1:36:56.719 will be a fucking fire. 1:36:56.960 --> 1:36:59.680 You know, it'll probably be more you know, asshole tight 1:36:59.720 --> 1:37:02.599 about than Baker will. Like listening to him, Like it's 1:37:02.640 --> 1:37:04.000 like the same thing with Johnny, like do you have 1:37:04.080 --> 1:37:06.040 the regrets and all that stuff? Like listening to Johnny, 1:37:06.080 --> 1:37:09.720 you just know he's forgiven everything that he's like, he's 1:37:09.760 --> 1:37:11.240 given the but he's taken the power. 1:37:11.120 --> 1:37:12.640 Back from where he used to put it with me 1:37:13.000 --> 1:37:14.320 or other people's opinions. 1:37:14.360 --> 1:37:16.600 It seems like Baker when he when he spoke some 1:37:16.680 --> 1:37:18.479 about the struggles he go through when he would read 1:37:18.479 --> 1:37:20.040 stuff like he's like, I see everything as much as 1:37:20.040 --> 1:37:21.439 I said, don When I see everything, it's. 1:37:21.320 --> 1:37:23.720 No different not to see right, And he understands that. 1:37:23.880 --> 1:37:26.280 Like at the same time, like when he said, uh, 1:37:26.840 --> 1:37:28.320 what did he say where He's like, yeah, but that's 1:37:28.320 --> 1:37:30.040 the game. When he said he felt disrespect, but that's 1:37:30.040 --> 1:37:30.280 the game. 1:37:30.320 --> 1:37:31.760 He gets that. Yeah, he's given you. 1:37:32.320 --> 1:37:34.360 He's given you a very zoomed in version like let 1:37:34.400 --> 1:37:36.960 me go, you know, boost somebody at the cubicle. But 1:37:37.040 --> 1:37:38.599 then he can sit there and say I probably shouldn't 1:37:38.600 --> 1:37:40.439 say that. He can zoom out and say you can 1:37:40.600 --> 1:37:43.120 understand the human element side of it is what I'm getting. 1:37:42.920 --> 1:37:45.280 At, I think. But I think that's the value in 1:37:45.439 --> 1:37:48.000 what this is why you guys are having success, It's 1:37:48.040 --> 1:37:53.120 why it's it's why podcasts are becoming. Podcasts will soon 1:37:53.240 --> 1:37:58.439 be the real format for for these and people just want, like, 1:37:58.840 --> 1:38:01.040 you watch that episode, you can a real temperature on 1:38:01.120 --> 1:38:01.560 who he is. 1:38:01.800 --> 1:38:03.479 Absolutely, you don't get a temperature when. 1:38:03.400 --> 1:38:05.000 You put him up on a fucking one of those 1:38:05.240 --> 1:38:07.120 ESPN's across the table and they're trying to you know, 1:38:07.280 --> 1:38:09.720 like it's just even when you sit down and have 1:38:09.800 --> 1:38:11.960 like one of the more serious talks like the sixties, 1:38:12.040 --> 1:38:14.519 sixthy or whatever, it's just not the same. There's just 1:38:14.600 --> 1:38:17.960 this candid feeling where you literally feel like you're on 1:38:18.080 --> 1:38:18.880 the couch with us. 1:38:19.240 --> 1:38:21.360 We're on our couch. My dog's got a fucking hog 1:38:21.439 --> 1:38:21.760 out on the. 1:38:21.840 --> 1:38:25.000 ESPN right by the way. Yeah, everybody was asking about 1:38:25.040 --> 1:38:28.040 the dog. Got some like some like overweight guy who's 1:38:28.080 --> 1:38:31.760 like a sports media guy. I don't know his name, offhand. No, No, 1:38:39.040 --> 1:38:41.640 some guy goes, you know, this is off topic. You 1:38:41.760 --> 1:38:44.960 quoted it, this is off topic. But what are they 1:38:45.000 --> 1:38:48.439 feeding that dog? His back's gonna hurt? And he was 1:38:48.479 --> 1:38:50.000 fat and I quote sweet and I said, is your 1:38:50.040 --> 1:38:54.320 back hurt? It's just if I don't really care what 1:38:54.400 --> 1:38:56.320 you say about. Maybe you go, I'm going to bat 1:38:56.360 --> 1:38:59.800 for my dog. You know I voice, you have a voice, right, 1:39:00.080 --> 1:39:02.280 it's just having we're having a leisurely little what was 1:39:02.320 --> 1:39:04.519 it like a Sunday. It was like a Sunday evening, 1:39:04.880 --> 1:39:06.920 just like them casual. You know, he's just getting it uppen. 1:39:07.040 --> 1:39:11.000 But the cameras are on too. Yeah, whatever, he goes 1:39:11.040 --> 1:39:12.120 to me every time. 1:39:12.400 --> 1:39:14.280 Yeah, well, I mean that's the whole vibe. 1:39:14.320 --> 1:39:16.920 But job too, because like we'll do the same thing, 1:39:17.000 --> 1:39:19.240 like if if a Pottern episode is taken out of context, 1:39:19.360 --> 1:39:22.200 like us our audience, like we can direct we can 1:39:22.280 --> 1:39:25.160 directly go to the source and just say you're taking 1:39:25.200 --> 1:39:26.880 this out of context. You can say all this stuff 1:39:27.120 --> 1:39:29.679 because again in the same breath, like playing Devil's advocate 1:39:29.720 --> 1:39:32.160 to it all. Like the media has a job to 1:39:32.240 --> 1:39:34.800 do as well, exactly, and you take certain clips that 1:39:34.920 --> 1:39:36.519 are going to get cut up you know they're gonna 1:39:36.560 --> 1:39:40.200 go viral if you're somebody who strictly talks about football, 1:39:40.280 --> 1:39:41.840 not the scope of life, not the scope of the 1:39:41.880 --> 1:39:44.280 overall human being. But if you're just talking to football, 1:39:44.360 --> 1:39:47.880 drama and everything else you got to have, you're trying 1:39:47.920 --> 1:39:50.240 to earn a sense of credibility by they're saying they 1:39:50.320 --> 1:39:51.599 made the right call, they made the wrong call. 1:39:51.640 --> 1:39:52.599 Here's what I think about Baker. 1:39:52.600 --> 1:39:54.519 Here's what I don't think about Baker, because they're trying 1:39:54.520 --> 1:39:56.120 to have like their own take, like they got to 1:39:56.160 --> 1:39:58.320 do their job, or if like fans are going back 1:39:58.360 --> 1:40:00.840 and forth, like Baker said, it too the true Cleveland people, 1:40:00.960 --> 1:40:02.720 like the real ones out there who are going and 1:40:02.760 --> 1:40:05.000 clicking and watching the whole pod, who will probably sitting it. 1:40:05.120 --> 1:40:07.280 Oh I like this take, like Taylor said. But most 1:40:07.280 --> 1:40:09.160 of those people aren't gonna go to Twitter and understand 1:40:09.200 --> 1:40:10.240 everybody's arguing about it. 1:40:10.439 --> 1:40:12.320 There's gonna be oh I like this dude. Now, that's 1:40:12.320 --> 1:40:12.840 why it's. 1:40:12.680 --> 1:40:16.680 Got any people. Yeah, those people that it's something for 1:40:16.840 --> 1:40:18.760 them that they're so pissed off about that they got 1:40:18.880 --> 1:40:20.960 to try and punch up or tear somebody down and 1:40:20.960 --> 1:40:22.880 bring them down to their level. Because they're trying to 1:40:22.920 --> 1:40:25.200 be seen by masses too, to make them feel relevant 1:40:25.439 --> 1:40:27.040 and who they are, Like, oh, look at my chirp. 1:40:27.120 --> 1:40:30.040 But when you go out there on on stage and 1:40:30.120 --> 1:40:32.920 somebody some Steves that signed up on a thing, you know, 1:40:33.000 --> 1:40:34.760 I fucking who's the skis, You're like, you need to 1:40:34.800 --> 1:40:37.720 get rid of that guy. They're they're they're just trying 1:40:37.760 --> 1:40:40.280 to like they're trying to feel relevant in their own story. 1:40:40.120 --> 1:40:40.559 Right, Yeah. 1:40:40.720 --> 1:40:45.520 And and those people, the guys like I totally understand. 1:40:45.800 --> 1:40:47.519 I like you said, I think you put it really well. 1:40:48.000 --> 1:40:51.120 I like to I'm liking I'm definitely taking the opportunity 1:40:51.280 --> 1:40:53.519 to point to the truth of it all, like at 1:40:53.600 --> 1:40:56.439 least from my perspective for my fans, and trying to 1:40:56.560 --> 1:40:58.479 rally it in the right direction because I care, and 1:40:58.520 --> 1:41:00.519 I care about Baker and I don't just don't he 1:41:00.560 --> 1:41:02.000 don't even give a fuck, you know what I mean? Like, 1:41:02.040 --> 1:41:05.120 which is the beautiful thing, which is ultimately like good yeah, yeah, 1:41:05.240 --> 1:41:06.559 but just That's where I'm at. 1:41:06.560 --> 1:41:09.200 But I'm also not oblivious, like this is what these 1:41:09.240 --> 1:41:10.640 guys do. Stephen A. 1:41:10.800 --> 1:41:13.640 Smith get Bai, Like, these guys have jobs and they 1:41:13.720 --> 1:41:15.479 have families to take care of. And this is what 1:41:15.600 --> 1:41:17.479 you fucking do so you can you can go in 1:41:17.560 --> 1:41:19.160 circles with this, you know. 1:41:19.200 --> 1:41:21.080 And one thing you guys said that is like reals, 1:41:21.120 --> 1:41:22.439 like people ain't living their own lives. 1:41:22.800 --> 1:41:23.400 You know what I'm saying. 1:41:23.520 --> 1:41:27.040 I kind of it is an escape. 1:41:27.080 --> 1:41:29.360 It allows you to kind of take away from let's 1:41:29.400 --> 1:41:30.920 say something's not going good in your life, and you're 1:41:30.960 --> 1:41:33.360 allowed to go and shit on somebody else, you know, 1:41:33.760 --> 1:41:34.519 do your thing over there. 1:41:34.520 --> 1:41:35.760 You know what I'm saying. I feel a little better, 1:41:35.920 --> 1:41:36.599 you know, it does. 1:41:37.200 --> 1:41:38.760 And let me tell you something. Sometimes I wake up 1:41:38.760 --> 1:41:41.360 and choose violence, yeah, you know, and I go to bed. 1:41:41.520 --> 1:41:43.280 I was like, that was a good day, you know 1:41:43.360 --> 1:41:43.800 what I'm saying. 1:41:43.800 --> 1:41:46.479 I mean, dude, I used to be like I used 1:41:46.520 --> 1:41:48.600 to have a like I don't know why, but I 1:41:48.680 --> 1:41:51.120 had a rage inside me. Yeah, I think everybody the 1:41:51.200 --> 1:41:53.719 reason I the reason I am the wato wolves inside 1:41:53.720 --> 1:41:55.519 of all of us when people like. 1:41:55.880 --> 1:41:57.640 People shop on me who have been following me for 1:41:57.680 --> 1:41:59.120 a while. Now everyone's warmed up to it. 1:41:59.200 --> 1:42:01.519 But like I came out like I'm not having sexy 1:42:01.640 --> 1:42:03.880 conversations about the girls I'm fucking are doing that. I'm 1:42:03.880 --> 1:42:06.439 talking about like spirituality, a lot on that podcast, like 1:42:06.880 --> 1:42:08.120 real life because. 1:42:08.040 --> 1:42:09.479 People that you're on shrooms the whole time. 1:42:09.520 --> 1:42:14.880 Yeah, and I'm not like mom sometimes, but dude, like 1:42:15.880 --> 1:42:18.400 you know, I just fucking like I don't want to 1:42:18.479 --> 1:42:21.000 go through life the way I was, Like, I had 1:42:21.000 --> 1:42:24.639 a fucking such an edge, like I would. I would 1:42:25.040 --> 1:42:27.080 someone says something to me, I'd fucking I'd hit him, 1:42:27.320 --> 1:42:28.960 you know, Like I used to get in trouble. I 1:42:29.160 --> 1:42:32.200 almost gotten I did. I got in serious trouble one time. 1:42:32.439 --> 1:42:34.639 My twenty first birthday. I spent my entire twenty first 1:42:34.680 --> 1:42:39.080 birthday in jail in DC. Serious jail, like serious lock up. 1:42:39.160 --> 1:42:42.519 It was tough, Like wait, what's a serious jail though, 1:42:42.520 --> 1:42:43.879 because there's like jail in print. 1:42:43.960 --> 1:42:47.519 Like it was. It was fucking I had a felony, 1:42:47.680 --> 1:42:51.120 a felony assaults charge. Uh beat the fuck out of 1:42:51.200 --> 1:42:53.280 this dude who was saying something to me. I don't 1:42:53.280 --> 1:42:55.519 even it was a drunken night where they got I think. 1:42:56.200 --> 1:42:57.920 I think it was just when I was starting Mike 1:42:58.040 --> 1:43:01.360 stud like a few songs or two out and I 1:43:01.479 --> 1:43:04.200 was at Georgetown grad like I was playing. So when 1:43:04.200 --> 1:43:05.680 I said I made my first song a twenty two, 1:43:05.720 --> 1:43:08.400 I literally graduated from Duke still had two years of 1:43:08.439 --> 1:43:10.400 eligibility because of the Tommy John surgery. 1:43:10.800 --> 1:43:12.320 So I go to Georgetown Grad. 1:43:12.400 --> 1:43:15.280 I'm just like I'm gonna I'm putting songs out, but 1:43:15.320 --> 1:43:16.360 I'm not gonna be a musician. 1:43:16.439 --> 1:43:17.840 I'm a fucking you know what I mean. 1:43:17.880 --> 1:43:20.519 I'm gonna try to be a baseball player whatever reason. 1:43:20.560 --> 1:43:22.400 I get in a fight, and I used to get 1:43:22.400 --> 1:43:24.280 in fights all the time, you know, Like I had 1:43:24.320 --> 1:43:26.280 a rage inside me. I don't know where it came from, 1:43:26.320 --> 1:43:28.519 and I wanted at one point growing up to me 1:43:28.720 --> 1:43:31.679 was like what is that like? Actually look at yourself 1:43:32.840 --> 1:43:35.560 and evaluate yourself and don't be fucking real, Like I 1:43:35.600 --> 1:43:36.639 don't want to be that person. 1:43:36.720 --> 1:43:39.040 That's that's not even it was part of my programming. 1:43:39.120 --> 1:43:40.960 I grew up in like a tough neighborhood where like 1:43:41.000 --> 1:43:42.599 he's just like that's how the kids were. 1:43:42.720 --> 1:43:45.160 Everyone like Northeast, like hard. 1:43:45.080 --> 1:43:47.479 Nos Like would you say, bro, like that kind of vibe, 1:43:47.520 --> 1:43:50.960 you know, and I'm just I started seeing it for 1:43:51.040 --> 1:43:54.120 what it was. Long story short, the fellony charge got 1:43:54.200 --> 1:43:57.479 dropped because of a fucking camera Like bro, I almost 1:43:57.560 --> 1:44:00.360 went into I was gonna be serve like time a year, 1:44:00.720 --> 1:44:01.360 like I fuck. 1:44:01.280 --> 1:44:02.120 Was he injured? 1:44:02.160 --> 1:44:02.360 Yeah? 1:44:02.439 --> 1:44:04.280 Did you have any priors before that? Did I? 1:44:04.560 --> 1:44:04.600 No? 1:44:05.000 --> 1:44:07.839 No, but he had a I mean it was I started. 1:44:08.479 --> 1:44:10.639 This is actually we could This is an interesting point. 1:44:10.720 --> 1:44:13.840 Like I started the Mike stud career about fifty thousand 1:44:13.840 --> 1:44:16.000 dollars in death. I come from like a very lower 1:44:16.080 --> 1:44:19.800 middle middle class maybe lower even, like yeah, no money, 1:44:19.960 --> 1:44:22.799 you know, like yeah, like no money does fucking waste 1:44:22.920 --> 1:44:25.559 Like I was. I owed my parents one hundred couple 1:44:25.640 --> 1:44:28.360 hundred thousand dollars after I left like school, especially going 1:44:28.360 --> 1:44:30.400 to Georgetown for a year. Like you only get half 1:44:30.439 --> 1:44:31.559 scholarships for baseball. 1:44:31.640 --> 1:44:33.280 That's if you're good. Yeah, and that's if you're good. 1:44:33.479 --> 1:44:37.160 So you know, I start this career, I'm fifty thousand 1:44:37.200 --> 1:44:39.479 in a hole because I lost the civil suit settled. 1:44:39.640 --> 1:44:42.640 Like he had a few major surgeries. Really yeah, so 1:44:44.280 --> 1:44:47.800 you must have this, dude, it doesn't happen thought. 1:44:47.120 --> 1:44:49.760 That dude, American History X by the curb motherfucker shit. 1:44:49.800 --> 1:44:51.960 You know what I'm saying. A few fastballs, bro, you know, 1:44:53.080 --> 1:44:55.679 but like if I'm not in fifty k in the whole, 1:44:55.720 --> 1:44:58.120 I don't know if I like because what happened was 1:44:58.200 --> 1:45:00.200 like I was still playing baseball, and then I hard 1:45:00.240 --> 1:45:02.040 to get a little buzz and I started to get 1:45:02.080 --> 1:45:02.880 book shows for like. 1:45:02.920 --> 1:45:04.960 Five thousand dollars to come play a college show. 1:45:04.960 --> 1:45:08.160 I'm like, yes, yeah, So like I actually had to, 1:45:08.720 --> 1:45:13.160 I like basically left school and forfeited my compliance. 1:45:13.320 --> 1:45:16.040 Like as an athlete, you can't make money that time. 1:45:16.560 --> 1:45:17.160 So I left. 1:45:17.240 --> 1:45:18.920 I just like went on a whim because I was like, yo, 1:45:19.200 --> 1:45:22.240 I need money. I don't really like playing baseball anymore. 1:45:22.240 --> 1:45:23.960 I'm like a watered down version of myself. 1:45:24.400 --> 1:45:26.840 I was like, because it was really good surgery. Yeah, 1:45:27.040 --> 1:45:27.559 like bro, I was. 1:45:27.560 --> 1:45:31.519 Throwing, throwing five six miles per hours, slower, everything, the 1:45:31.600 --> 1:45:33.920 fluidity in my arm, like nothing felt the same even 1:45:33.920 --> 1:45:35.400 if I was getting out, So I didn't know why, 1:45:35.720 --> 1:45:37.479 you know what I mean, Like it didn't feel the same. 1:45:37.720 --> 1:45:39.760 God, I thank god he didn't hit them, motherfucker. Yeah, 1:45:39.840 --> 1:45:42.639 Like it just hung that thing up there. I can't 1:45:42.640 --> 1:45:43.400 believe he didn't hit that. 1:45:43.720 --> 1:45:46.240 Before I just knew exactly what the fuck I was doing, 1:45:46.280 --> 1:45:48.600 and it felt perfect. It felt like exactly what I 1:45:48.640 --> 1:45:50.479 was supposed to be doing on the earth almost you 1:45:50.520 --> 1:45:54.000 know where this this It didn't anymore, So I just 1:45:54.439 --> 1:45:57.439 I went after but without that that debt hanging over me. 1:45:58.120 --> 1:45:59.479 I don't know if I would have like really went 1:45:59.520 --> 1:46:01.800 after it and started fucking going right away. I started 1:46:01.840 --> 1:46:04.519 going and playing every single show like and and trying 1:46:04.560 --> 1:46:07.960 to pay back the money. Damn. Yeah, that's wild. Well 1:46:08.000 --> 1:46:11.040 it worked out, worked out. The criminal charges got dropped. Luckily, 1:46:11.320 --> 1:46:12.760 I was about to get kicked out of school. I 1:46:12.840 --> 1:46:15.680 left anyways, it didn't matter, but the criminal charges got 1:46:15.760 --> 1:46:18.200 dropped because there was a camera over the pizza joint 1:46:18.800 --> 1:46:21.519 and it shows him approaching me, coming into my space first, 1:46:21.520 --> 1:46:22.400 and he actually touched me. 1:46:22.720 --> 1:46:24.880 I punched him first, but he he came in and 1:46:24.960 --> 1:46:28.639 like came in and like about like Mike Studd. 1:46:28.800 --> 1:46:30.559 Yeah, it was something along those lines. I don't even remember, 1:46:30.720 --> 1:46:32.880 like and that that was kind of it took I 1:46:32.920 --> 1:46:35.040 don't even remember. It took a few years for. 1:46:35.120 --> 1:46:36.880 Me to even look back at myself and be like, 1:46:37.080 --> 1:46:37.960 the fuck is wrong with me? 1:46:38.040 --> 1:46:40.240 I was gonna say, like, going to that moment you 1:46:40.280 --> 1:46:42.719 talked about this rage and then having the basically probably 1:46:42.720 --> 1:46:46.040 the most important conversation with yourself taking yourself talkers through that, 1:46:46.120 --> 1:46:46.880 How hard that was. 1:46:46.920 --> 1:46:49.680 And that process shut out the mushrooms you know. 1:46:51.800 --> 1:46:54.240 About it? It was it was part of my overall 1:46:54.360 --> 1:46:56.920 growth for sure. Yeah, definitely, I'm a big I'm a 1:46:57.000 --> 1:47:00.520 big fan and big proponent of like microdosing and psychoelic 1:47:00.640 --> 1:47:03.280 And there's like the experiences you hear about where you 1:47:03.439 --> 1:47:06.280 like you actually kind of start to break societal norms 1:47:06.320 --> 1:47:07.880 in the programming that you grew up with. 1:47:08.320 --> 1:47:08.760 That's real. 1:47:08.920 --> 1:47:10.760 Like I no one can tell me it isn't because 1:47:10.760 --> 1:47:12.479 I experienced it. I know how I used to be 1:47:12.560 --> 1:47:14.280 and I know how I am now, so no one 1:47:14.360 --> 1:47:17.640 can tell me anything else. But in regards to that, 1:47:17.800 --> 1:47:20.080 like I think I had a I had a breakup. 1:47:20.120 --> 1:47:23.160 I had a relationship with a girl, jose Canseco's daughter. 1:47:23.439 --> 1:47:25.720 It was the only her name is Josie. She's She's 1:47:25.720 --> 1:47:28.639 a great girl, like my only relationship I've ever had. 1:47:29.560 --> 1:47:33.400 I'm in LA. Things are going great, right the relationship. 1:47:33.439 --> 1:47:36.160 It's the first time I wanted something and I couldn't 1:47:36.160 --> 1:47:39.360 figure out how to make it work. And I never 1:47:39.479 --> 1:47:42.120 really even had a vulnerability where I was even like 1:47:42.200 --> 1:47:43.920 I never even had a girlfriend. I was always just 1:47:44.040 --> 1:47:46.920 like kind of a playboy dude. Never yeah, just never 1:47:47.000 --> 1:47:49.800 like locked in with anyone, you know, So that kind 1:47:49.800 --> 1:47:52.040 of rattled me. To the point where like after that 1:47:52.240 --> 1:47:53.680 and I couldn't figure it out, and I like it 1:47:53.760 --> 1:47:57.080 was actually like I was actually fucking like sad and 1:47:57.520 --> 1:48:01.479 also being in LA for six years weighing on me. 1:48:01.560 --> 1:48:04.160 And I'm like, after that happens, I'm in this nice 1:48:04.200 --> 1:48:06.800 house with my friends. You know, if you told me. 1:48:06.800 --> 1:48:09.040 Five years ago this would be your life, I thought 1:48:09.040 --> 1:48:11.040 it would be like a static and happy and proud, 1:48:11.120 --> 1:48:12.360 but I felt none of those things. 1:48:12.920 --> 1:48:14.639 And I did have this ant like to this point, 1:48:14.680 --> 1:48:16.080 I hadn't really rectified any of the. 1:48:16.120 --> 1:48:19.000 Anger I had, And I think, well, I know now, 1:48:19.240 --> 1:48:22.960 like the way I was reacting in my relationship, that 1:48:23.040 --> 1:48:25.120 relationship wasn't supposed to last anyway. I know that now. 1:48:25.200 --> 1:48:29.040 But I started to evaluate every reaction I have, all 1:48:29.080 --> 1:48:31.160 the reactions, like all the things, the way I would 1:48:31.160 --> 1:48:33.840 act and what I would say, it was all egotistical. 1:48:33.920 --> 1:48:35.880 And you know, like I would have never thought of 1:48:35.920 --> 1:48:39.519 myself as an egotistical person, like not blatantly cocky. 1:48:39.760 --> 1:48:41.720 My name was fucking Mike's stud So that says enough. 1:48:41.880 --> 1:48:44.640 Like there's a little bit of ego too, you know, 1:48:44.760 --> 1:48:46.559 a little bit of ego in there, buried in there. 1:48:47.040 --> 1:48:50.760 But yeah, like, how were you being able, How were 1:48:50.800 --> 1:48:52.639 you able to? Were you reading? What were you doing? 1:48:52.760 --> 1:48:52.960 Yeah? 1:48:53.080 --> 1:48:56.200 Yeah, so I so, I I like it was tough. 1:48:56.360 --> 1:48:58.200 It was. It was a tough probably four to six 1:48:58.280 --> 1:49:01.360 months where I like, I stopped, I stopped going out, 1:49:01.439 --> 1:49:05.599 I stopped drowning out, you know, the sadness and partying 1:49:05.680 --> 1:49:08.360 and fucking strangers, you know, and doing that type of 1:49:08.360 --> 1:49:11.840 shit and just being wild like, and I just wanted 1:49:11.880 --> 1:49:15.800 to I care about life, like I actually, I want 1:49:15.840 --> 1:49:17.760 to have the best experience I can. And I knew, 1:49:17.840 --> 1:49:19.360 I knew I wasn't going the right way, so I 1:49:19.439 --> 1:49:21.200 started to I just had to sack up and like 1:49:21.360 --> 1:49:23.760 kind of look in the mirror. Biggest thing for me 1:49:23.920 --> 1:49:26.240 was reading books like I talk about this book all 1:49:26.280 --> 1:49:28.640 the time. Anyone who has any type of drawing to 1:49:28.800 --> 1:49:32.839 like wanted to wanted to kind of work on themselves. 1:49:33.320 --> 1:49:34.920 This was my bible. It's the Seven. 1:49:34.800 --> 1:49:38.840 Spiritual Laws of Success by Deepak Chopra. It literally I 1:49:38.920 --> 1:49:41.479 had a euphoric failing reading it. You could take that 1:49:41.600 --> 1:49:44.200 as you will, no drugs, nothing, and I had done drugs, 1:49:44.240 --> 1:49:45.680 so I know what you for. I know the hw 1:49:45.840 --> 1:49:48.560 you get from that. I just felt like someone was 1:49:48.600 --> 1:49:51.400 speaking to me and I've never stopped. I have a 1:49:51.600 --> 1:49:53.439 you know, Steve's book club. Like we talked about books. 1:49:53.479 --> 1:49:54.519 I fucking love book. 1:49:54.560 --> 1:49:54.960 I love it. 1:49:55.880 --> 1:49:57.760 And dude, you couldn't pay me to read a book. 1:49:57.840 --> 1:49:59.360 I went to Duke, I didn't want to read, you know, 1:49:59.439 --> 1:50:01.519 like I didn't want to learn, you know, and I 1:50:01.760 --> 1:50:02.960 and I just I became. 1:50:03.360 --> 1:50:04.519 I felt it. I felt it. 1:50:04.760 --> 1:50:07.519 I felt the tides turned, and I wanted to go 1:50:07.680 --> 1:50:10.360 inward and start fucking building myself up the way I 1:50:10.600 --> 1:50:12.479 actually want to be, you know, the way I like 1:50:12.560 --> 1:50:14.519 when I close my eyes and think about the future. 1:50:14.600 --> 1:50:16.599 I'm sure every guy does or every girl. You try 1:50:16.640 --> 1:50:17.320 to envision what. 1:50:17.720 --> 1:50:18.360 Your future is. 1:50:18.439 --> 1:50:21.560 It wasn't like being a dude with like, you know, 1:50:21.960 --> 1:50:24.639 two babies with two different girls and partied too much 1:50:24.760 --> 1:50:27.080 in his in his heyday, and it was like it 1:50:27.200 --> 1:50:29.439 was like being a fucking respectable guy. 1:50:29.400 --> 1:50:30.760 Like an honorable guy. 1:50:31.280 --> 1:50:33.080 You're you have a daughter and then they look up 1:50:33.120 --> 1:50:35.280 to you that type of that type of situation and 1:50:36.320 --> 1:50:39.040 me being angry and like hitting a guy every time 1:50:39.080 --> 1:50:41.120 they say something bad to me, What is that? 1:50:41.280 --> 1:50:41.879 That's horseshit? 1:50:41.920 --> 1:50:44.479 It's not honorable, you know, like me not being able 1:50:44.560 --> 1:50:46.600 to have gratitude for the gifts that I did have 1:50:46.760 --> 1:50:48.559 at the time, which I had a lot of gifts. 1:50:48.600 --> 1:50:50.080 I had to look at the lucky breaks I've had, 1:50:50.200 --> 1:50:53.439 like even just being born with an athletic ability at all, 1:50:53.680 --> 1:50:55.920 or being being born with a voice where I could 1:50:55.920 --> 1:50:59.200 fucking turn into music and make people fucking listen to it. 1:50:59.240 --> 1:51:02.000 You know, those were gifts and I couldn't. I wasn't 1:51:02.000 --> 1:51:04.400 really appreciative of any of it. And that that was 1:51:04.439 --> 1:51:07.360 an awakening. Like when you realize you're not you're not 1:51:07.600 --> 1:51:09.320 really thankful for any of the things you got in 1:51:09.360 --> 1:51:12.160 your life. It's it's scary, you know, Like That's how 1:51:12.240 --> 1:51:13.800 that was the emotion I felt, and I wanted to. 1:51:14.240 --> 1:51:15.640 I didn't want any part of it. I wanted to. 1:51:16.040 --> 1:51:18.880 Once I realized it, the self awareness became a thing 1:51:18.960 --> 1:51:22.439 and I started paying attention to myself and my emotions. 1:51:22.000 --> 1:51:22.639 And how I felt. 1:51:23.080 --> 1:51:25.040 I realized I had a lot of work, and I'm 1:51:25.080 --> 1:51:26.920 still doing it all the time, Like today, you know, 1:51:27.160 --> 1:51:29.520 fucking first hour of my day, I read, I meditated, 1:51:30.080 --> 1:51:32.160 and I do it because I have a rage in there. 1:51:32.479 --> 1:51:33.719 You know, I don't want that rage. 1:51:34.200 --> 1:51:38.040 I want to eradicate that, you know, and that's kind 1:51:38.080 --> 1:51:40.719 of the that's like, that's like one of the bigger goals. 1:51:41.560 --> 1:51:43.599 I love that. One of my biggest goals in life. 1:51:44.360 --> 1:51:48.040 Is that's a It's a hard thing to make progress 1:51:48.080 --> 1:51:51.120 towards yourself as an individual because once you realize you're 1:51:51.200 --> 1:51:53.360 making progress, you want to make more. But at one 1:51:53.400 --> 1:51:56.240 point you realize, oh, I can never stop doing this. Yeah, 1:51:56.600 --> 1:51:59.320 because you're always trying to achieve that next level of 1:51:59.400 --> 1:52:00.320 like what's mywareness? 1:52:00.360 --> 1:52:03.719 What can I how can I be better? Self awareness 1:52:03.800 --> 1:52:04.639 is a gift and a curse. 1:52:05.080 --> 1:52:08.120 Yeah, think about what the ignorance is bliss, Like, if 1:52:08.160 --> 1:52:11.000 you're not paying attention, you're hurting people. You know, you're 1:52:11.000 --> 1:52:13.080 not even thinking about it, louck it. You know, like 1:52:13.160 --> 1:52:15.920 your your your human experience, your life is fine. But 1:52:16.040 --> 1:52:17.760 when you start shigning a lighter on yourself and you're 1:52:17.760 --> 1:52:20.120 paying attention every day and you're looking at it, it 1:52:20.200 --> 1:52:22.479 could be painful. But I also think it's it's the 1:52:22.520 --> 1:52:24.880 biggest gift because that's that's how you can grow, you 1:52:25.000 --> 1:52:27.600 know what I mean. So without the awareness, you're just 1:52:28.120 --> 1:52:30.360 you're going around in circles. I'm interested in growing and 1:52:30.479 --> 1:52:33.080 changing and reinventing, Like, yeah, you know, and I think 1:52:33.160 --> 1:52:35.360 that's that's a huge key, is the self awareness. 1:52:35.479 --> 1:52:37.479 Yeah, it's probably I would I would assume it stuff 1:52:37.479 --> 1:52:39.160 for like, you know a lot of people have like 1:52:39.160 --> 1:52:42.000 an achievement myset, like being athletes. Can you say, oh, 1:52:42.080 --> 1:52:43.840 how how do I achieve and get to the next 1:52:43.920 --> 1:52:45.400 like awareness thing like catching myself? 1:52:45.439 --> 1:52:46.720 I like, you know, how do I I feel like 1:52:46.720 --> 1:52:47.040 I'm here? 1:52:47.120 --> 1:52:47.240 Now? 1:52:47.280 --> 1:52:49.360 How do I get here? And it's like you can't 1:52:49.360 --> 1:52:50.479 even really be thinking that way. 1:52:50.640 --> 1:52:54.760 Yeah, but it's there's a Devil's advocate in it where 1:52:54.800 --> 1:52:57.479 it's like I want to achieve something, but you also 1:52:57.520 --> 1:52:59.280 have to be happy about where you're at. If you're 1:52:59.280 --> 1:53:00.800 just happy we you're at, where's the drive to get 1:53:00.840 --> 1:53:01.400 where you want to go? 1:53:01.760 --> 1:53:02.280 You know what I'm saying? 1:53:02.280 --> 1:53:03.680 That's always like you're kind of fighting that. 1:53:03.960 --> 1:53:07.960 Yeah, it's tough and it's I think what everyone learns 1:53:08.040 --> 1:53:09.679 is that as you get older is like life isn't 1:53:09.720 --> 1:53:12.120 supposed to be easy. We talked about this in our podcast. 1:53:12.880 --> 1:53:15.439 What gets us into trouble is the expectation that life 1:53:15.520 --> 1:53:17.560 is supposed to be easy. Why do we have that expectation? 1:53:17.880 --> 1:53:20.719 You know, like who taught us that it's not supposed 1:53:20.760 --> 1:53:23.400 to be hard. Why why do we why do we 1:53:23.640 --> 1:53:24.800 think like what was me? 1:53:25.000 --> 1:53:27.280 Fuck this? Why is this so hard? It's just part 1:53:27.320 --> 1:53:28.320 of the human experience. 1:53:28.439 --> 1:53:31.400 And and you know, knowing the athletes and knowing a 1:53:31.439 --> 1:53:33.800 lot of guys who are successful and and have all 1:53:33.840 --> 1:53:35.719 the all the gifts that people look at. 1:53:35.600 --> 1:53:37.840 Me like, how are they unhappy they got millions of dollars? 1:53:38.000 --> 1:53:40.360 Or I don't get it? Man, give me that, give 1:53:40.439 --> 1:53:42.920 me his wife, I'll be good man. Times you walk 1:53:42.960 --> 1:53:44.599 into a place where someone's like, if I had your size, 1:53:44.600 --> 1:53:47.320 I'd be doing this, this and this. Yeah, probably not exactly, 1:53:47.479 --> 1:53:52.520 but but even my my point of agree, disagreed. 1:53:54.800 --> 1:53:58.360 Biggest the biggest size guy ever complain about his size, 1:53:59.080 --> 1:54:02.160 But you're looking sick no matter what. Even if you 1:54:02.240 --> 1:54:04.519 are big, even if you are big, you're gonna just 1:54:04.600 --> 1:54:06.519 have like, even if you are great and have these 1:54:06.560 --> 1:54:08.760 great things, you're gonna have a different set of experiences 1:54:08.840 --> 1:54:09.599 that make it hard. 1:54:10.240 --> 1:54:10.720 You know what I mean? 1:54:11.160 --> 1:54:14.120 Everybody, it's like I want to say, Tony Robbins says 1:54:14.160 --> 1:54:16.920 it it's not a upstanding facts that cost stress, it's 1:54:16.960 --> 1:54:19.240 the meaning you give the facts. And that really hit 1:54:19.280 --> 1:54:21.200 home with me one time because it's like we all have. 1:54:21.280 --> 1:54:24.639 Everybody has their own their own life. Right, Just because 1:54:24.760 --> 1:54:26.479 like I play in the NFL and do X, Y 1:54:26.520 --> 1:54:28.360 and Z, doesn't mean I'm not going through my own 1:54:28.800 --> 1:54:31.639 wave of stress just all like everybody, it all means 1:54:31.720 --> 1:54:33.680 like the same thing. It's like the meaning we're giving 1:54:33.720 --> 1:54:36.200 the facts. Just because something happens to you doesn't mean, oh, 1:54:36.600 --> 1:54:39.800 this fact that weighs outweighs yours. It's like, what meaning 1:54:39.840 --> 1:54:42.760 are we attaching to it. I haven't met anybody. I 1:54:42.840 --> 1:54:44.680 haven't met or heard anyone says anyone. 1:54:44.720 --> 1:54:47.080 There's ten different guys on this buses, anyone not had 1:54:47.160 --> 1:54:50.800 really bad days and stress and and fucking you know, 1:54:51.040 --> 1:54:53.880 just feel fucking terrible. You're an NFL star first rounder, 1:54:53.920 --> 1:54:56.720 went on and achieved your dreams. Have you had sad 1:54:56.800 --> 1:54:59.800 days and terrible days? Sad days for sure? Dark fucking 1:55:00.080 --> 1:55:04.160 it right. Yeah, I've had two lucky breaks and that 1:55:04.320 --> 1:55:07.120 was part of my thing. Like I was like disgusted 1:55:07.200 --> 1:55:09.720 with myself for not being happy because I'm like, what 1:55:09.800 --> 1:55:11.760 the fuck am I complaining about? You know what I mean? Like, 1:55:12.480 --> 1:55:14.720 and I'm you know, like I go to a fucking 1:55:14.960 --> 1:55:17.600 order of cheeseburger. Then the guys happier than I am. 1:55:18.200 --> 1:55:20.240 I'm like, I'm starting to wonder what the fuck is 1:55:20.280 --> 1:55:20.680 wrong with me? 1:55:20.920 --> 1:55:21.480 You know what I mean. 1:55:21.560 --> 1:55:24.480 But I think what I've learned as I've dove into 1:55:24.520 --> 1:55:28.640 spirituality in general and like trying to be enlightened or 1:55:28.680 --> 1:55:30.480 trying to be as enlightened as you can and at 1:55:30.560 --> 1:55:33.920 peace as you can, is everyone that everyone's having a 1:55:33.960 --> 1:55:36.120 different version of the same experience, you know what I mean, 1:55:36.200 --> 1:55:38.160 like in some way or another, you know, like everyone 1:55:38.280 --> 1:55:40.000 there there's a yin they call it, like the yin 1:55:40.080 --> 1:55:42.280 and yang to every everything in the universe, you know 1:55:42.320 --> 1:55:44.960 what I mean. We're getting very deep here, but this 1:55:45.120 --> 1:55:47.400 is this is kind of where this is like where 1:55:47.520 --> 1:55:51.320 there there's there's there's an opposite to everything, you know 1:55:51.320 --> 1:55:51.680 what I mean. 1:55:51.760 --> 1:55:54.320 And I know I've had fucking terrible days. 1:55:54.360 --> 1:55:57.600 So anyone at home having a terrible day, like it's 1:55:57.880 --> 1:56:00.240 everyone can can share in that, you know, I mean, 1:56:00.440 --> 1:56:04.000 everyone can. It's it's a unification thing really, like everyone's 1:56:04.040 --> 1:56:04.760 having tough time. 1:56:04.800 --> 1:56:06.440 You know. It's made me be nicer to people. I 1:56:06.560 --> 1:56:07.640 used to be a fucking asshole. 1:56:07.920 --> 1:56:10.720 If someone said something I didn't agree with, said, fuck 1:56:10.760 --> 1:56:12.320 that guy, you know what I mean. To fuck you, Like, 1:56:12.400 --> 1:56:14.200 if you don't like me, fuck you you suck you 1:56:14.280 --> 1:56:16.400 know where. I don't know what the hell he's going through. 1:56:16.520 --> 1:56:18.120 I don't know what happened to him last night or 1:56:18.200 --> 1:56:20.880 last week, or he lost his dad a year ago 1:56:20.920 --> 1:56:23.240 and hasn't been happy since. Like, that's shit that I 1:56:23.320 --> 1:56:26.080 started to think about that I never thought about. It 1:56:26.240 --> 1:56:28.960 was all about me, you know, always, And I think 1:56:29.040 --> 1:56:32.120 that's that's growing up for me at least, you know that. 1:56:32.440 --> 1:56:34.680 This is my version of growing up, and it's been 1:56:34.800 --> 1:56:38.800 helpful for me to Ironically, I've gotten more successful the. 1:56:38.880 --> 1:56:40.000 Less I've cared about. 1:56:40.080 --> 1:56:42.600 Like you think when you talk about like having an ego, 1:56:42.680 --> 1:56:44.600 you gotta have an ego to be great, right, like 1:56:45.880 --> 1:56:48.320 an obsession. Yeah, and like you talk about, especially athletes, 1:56:48.360 --> 1:56:50.480 you got to think you're the fucking biggest badass, right, 1:56:50.720 --> 1:56:52.920 you know you need that. But at the same time, 1:56:53.120 --> 1:56:56.640 there's another side of that coin, like I personally subscribed, 1:56:56.760 --> 1:56:59.880 I like, don't try tattooed right here. I think we're 1:57:00.000 --> 1:57:02.080 sposed to be who were supposed to be, and when 1:57:02.080 --> 1:57:03.640 you when you're doing what you're supposed to be doing. 1:57:03.680 --> 1:57:06.160 Yes there's hard times and yes there's grind, but when 1:57:06.200 --> 1:57:07.240 you're being here you're supposed to be. 1:57:07.320 --> 1:57:08.240 You don't have to try to be it. 1:57:08.320 --> 1:57:09.720 You just be you, you know what I mean. Like 1:57:10.040 --> 1:57:11.920 to me going and making music and doing it for 1:57:12.000 --> 1:57:13.880 ten thousand hours, that was just that was where I 1:57:14.000 --> 1:57:14.520 was in my life. 1:57:14.560 --> 1:57:15.640 That's what I was supposed to be doing. 1:57:16.080 --> 1:57:18.720 And I actually got a lot of success, Like I 1:57:18.800 --> 1:57:21.240 got a lot more tangible success when I stopped caring 1:57:21.280 --> 1:57:22.080 about it as much. 1:57:23.160 --> 1:57:24.520 Take that as you will, you know what I mean. 1:57:24.640 --> 1:57:26.720 Because you felt more aligned with what you were wanting 1:57:26.760 --> 1:57:26.920 to do. 1:57:26.960 --> 1:57:29.880 It's more like when you're saying, like desiring certain things, 1:57:30.080 --> 1:57:30.880 it's like, it's not bad. 1:57:30.880 --> 1:57:32.400 I don't think to have it as a desire. 1:57:32.520 --> 1:57:34.400 Maybe too many could be tough because you're trying to 1:57:34.480 --> 1:57:38.040 like chase all these different rabbits. But maybe you're like, 1:57:38.280 --> 1:57:40.640 when you're aligned with your desire, you're you're probably you 1:57:40.760 --> 1:57:42.920 feel like you're not trying because you're you were being who. 1:57:42.880 --> 1:57:44.760 You want to feels organic to you, right, well, I 1:57:44.800 --> 1:57:45.640 am supposed to be doing this. 1:57:45.760 --> 1:57:46.520 Yeah, yeah, it might. 1:57:46.480 --> 1:57:48.840 Seem hard for other people, not like it don't try Like, hey, 1:57:48.880 --> 1:57:51.680 you're trying to you're trying to get a scholarship. 1:57:51.760 --> 1:57:53.440 Hey, don't don't worry about it, don't even try. It's 1:57:53.760 --> 1:57:55.280 like it don't work hard thing. 1:57:55.640 --> 1:57:58.680 Yeah, that don't matter about the people get messed up 1:57:58.680 --> 1:57:59.880 about as that one hundred percent. 1:58:00.280 --> 1:58:03.320 I work hard, Like I tattoo that on my leg 1:58:03.440 --> 1:58:05.880 as I'm I'm working. I'm working the hardest I've ever worked. 1:58:06.000 --> 1:58:08.960 Like I'm making music every fucking day. I'm on business 1:58:09.000 --> 1:58:11.920 calls every day. But my point is, like is Charles 1:58:11.960 --> 1:58:14.320 Bukowski is one of my favorite authors. And that's on 1:58:14.400 --> 1:58:17.000 his tombstone and his story more or less, I'll give 1:58:17.000 --> 1:58:19.280 it like a nutshell. It was just like he wanted 1:58:19.320 --> 1:58:21.840 to be a famous writer his entire life and had 1:58:21.840 --> 1:58:24.200 a terrible life, like was ridiculed as a kid at 1:58:24.240 --> 1:58:27.680 a bad skin disease, never found love, had a terrible, 1:58:27.760 --> 1:58:29.840 you know, terrible go of it, worked jobs, He hated 1:58:30.680 --> 1:58:32.880 right what rite right, right, right right, And it was 1:58:32.960 --> 1:58:35.200 coming from a place of lack, like I need this, 1:58:35.680 --> 1:58:37.520 like I don't have enough, you know, like I need, 1:58:37.600 --> 1:58:42.080 I need, I need, And his career took off. He 1:58:42.200 --> 1:58:45.480 became a legend. After he stops carrying it, it was over. 1:58:45.560 --> 1:58:47.480 He was like in his sixties, you know, like he 1:58:47.680 --> 1:58:50.920 was his hate, his prime had passed him by, and 1:58:51.040 --> 1:58:54.120 he was writing just for the pure joy because he 1:58:54.360 --> 1:58:54.760 needed to. 1:58:55.200 --> 1:58:55.720 It was him. 1:58:56.000 --> 1:58:58.000 He wasn't trying to be a famous writer. He just 1:58:58.360 --> 1:59:01.400 fucking needed to write. And he's up caring about like 1:59:01.520 --> 1:59:04.200 it's detaching from the results. And that's when you get 1:59:04.240 --> 1:59:05.680 the results, right, you. 1:59:05.680 --> 1:59:06.040 Know what I mean? 1:59:06.160 --> 1:59:09.120 People, you know it's too late to find out that 1:59:09.240 --> 1:59:11.720 the journey was the whole. Yeah, point, Yeah, you know 1:59:11.800 --> 1:59:14.160 what I mean? Yeah, exactly. I think I think the 1:59:14.240 --> 1:59:16.560 destination that you're trying to get to is ever evolving. 1:59:16.840 --> 1:59:18.200 You know what I mean is the journey? 1:59:18.400 --> 1:59:20.720 Yeah, it's like there is no such thing really because 1:59:20.720 --> 1:59:22.440 by the time you get there and you achieve that goal, 1:59:22.520 --> 1:59:25.680 your goals have shifted, you know, really, or at least 1:59:25.720 --> 1:59:28.280 you get there. We could speak to like you get it, 1:59:28.320 --> 1:59:30.360 you check it, you check a fucking like some of 1:59:30.400 --> 1:59:32.960 your biggest goals. Like once you get it, right, like 1:59:33.360 --> 1:59:35.360 your life isn't fucking completely transfident. 1:59:35.840 --> 1:59:38.040 You look to the next thing. You're like, Okay, I like, 1:59:38.400 --> 1:59:39.560 what's next? What am I going to next? 1:59:39.600 --> 1:59:40.800 The first time I had a pro ball, I was like, 1:59:40.880 --> 1:59:43.200 oh man, if I can get two though, right then 1:59:43.280 --> 1:59:45.080 you're like that dude, Oh if I can get three, 1:59:45.200 --> 1:59:46.800 you know what I'm saying that that type of stuff. 1:59:46.800 --> 1:59:50.040 And McConaughey has a good He was doing a speech 1:59:50.120 --> 1:59:50.440 or something like that. 1:59:50.480 --> 1:59:52.000 I think he was accepting an award and he said, 1:59:52.040 --> 1:59:54.200 like someone came and asked him who his hero was. 1:59:55.000 --> 1:59:57.200 Yeah, it's fantastic, right, and he said he's. 1:59:57.040 --> 1:59:58.720 A legerd hero is always ten years ahead of me. 1:59:58.760 --> 2:00:00.960 I'm always chasing my own hero though. And it's like, 2:00:01.000 --> 2:00:02.360 if you can do that in a way that you 2:00:02.480 --> 2:00:06.000 know that's the path you're on, then you're then you're cooking, baby, exactly, 2:00:06.000 --> 2:00:06.520 And you're cooking. 2:00:06.560 --> 2:00:08.200 I think you're never going to attain it. He's like, Yo, 2:00:08.240 --> 2:00:10.080 I'm never gonna get Yeah, you're never. You're never gonna 2:00:10.080 --> 2:00:10.320 get there. 2:00:10.320 --> 2:00:12.320 And as long as you're okay with knowing, you're never 2:00:12.440 --> 2:00:14.640 gonna get there, because like, to use your full potential 2:00:14.680 --> 2:00:16.240 in life is impossible. 2:00:16.480 --> 2:00:17.080 Yeah, you're never. 2:00:17.160 --> 2:00:17.800 You can't. You can't. 2:00:17.800 --> 2:00:20.400 There's too many lives to live. There's too many interests 2:00:20.440 --> 2:00:22.960 in this world for you to do absolutely every single 2:00:23.040 --> 2:00:25.000 thing you want unless you can obtain like time travel, 2:00:25.400 --> 2:00:29.240 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, But for I lost 2:00:29.280 --> 2:00:32.120 my thought No, Yeah, we're talking about we're gonna say 2:00:32.160 --> 2:00:34.320 one thing that's difficult, and then you went on that thing. 2:00:35.080 --> 2:00:40.200 I lost talking about a goal and reaching a destination. 2:00:40.480 --> 2:00:43.360 Yeah, like we're all floating together and yeah, and I 2:00:43.520 --> 2:00:44.720 just let the let the air out. 2:00:46.000 --> 2:00:50.000 We're now and I'm like, ye lost it. 2:00:50.800 --> 2:00:53.840 But that's really that's that's like how I'm how I'm 2:00:53.920 --> 2:00:56.120 leading my life right now. And it's been nice for me. 2:00:56.320 --> 2:00:59.800 It is I think, Uh, everyone's different, you know what 2:00:59.800 --> 2:01:02.600 I mean, And so like I don't I know, I 2:01:02.720 --> 2:01:04.840 just know how I felt. So my experience with it, 2:01:04.960 --> 2:01:06.800 like I know what it did to me. So I 2:01:07.000 --> 2:01:08.920 try to share on my platform a lot, Like for 2:01:09.160 --> 2:01:10.840 a lot of people it's probably too woo woo. 2:01:11.080 --> 2:01:12.640 I don't I don't give a fuck because it's just 2:01:12.720 --> 2:01:15.160 my truth and my platform. You listen to it or 2:01:15.200 --> 2:01:16.040 you don't, you know what I mean. 2:01:17.200 --> 2:01:19.720 But it's just what happened to me, and it's given 2:01:19.800 --> 2:01:23.400 me at least a chance at like a fulfilling life 2:01:23.480 --> 2:01:25.160 where because I know where. 2:01:25.000 --> 2:01:27.280 I was going. I was just going towards what's next, 2:01:27.360 --> 2:01:29.640 what's next? Wise? And it enough? Why isn't it enough? 2:01:29.760 --> 2:01:29.920 You know? 2:01:30.400 --> 2:01:33.520 And I don't like one of my favorite people in 2:01:33.520 --> 2:01:35.839 the world. He's the guy dropped me off, isn't it? Rasachi? 2:01:36.560 --> 2:01:39.320 He Uh. He showed up to one of my shows 2:01:39.480 --> 2:01:42.080 seven years ago on a mopead. He drove five hours 2:01:42.120 --> 2:01:44.320 to one of my shows in Omaha. He lives on 2:01:44.400 --> 2:01:48.200 a farm in Iowa, and he wasting. He was there 2:01:48.320 --> 2:01:51.520 before the show started, hours before. And this is back 2:01:51.560 --> 2:01:53.480 in the day when I had like four hundred person shows. 2:01:54.080 --> 2:01:56.920 And he's there in a full versace jumpsuit, and I 2:01:57.080 --> 2:01:59.320 just he just captivated me. He's now my right hand man, 2:01:59.360 --> 2:02:01.360 lives in my house. Who's my It just takes care 2:02:01.400 --> 2:02:04.000 of me. He's like my mom and dad squeezed into 2:02:04.040 --> 2:02:06.960 a slightly overweight Mexican guy. And he's the best guy ever, 2:02:07.120 --> 2:02:11.960 right but he but he he fucking he's literally the 2:02:12.040 --> 2:02:17.960 most content fulfilled, comfortable. Like his resting heart rate is 2:02:18.040 --> 2:02:19.240 like he's borderline dead. 2:02:20.560 --> 2:02:21.960 Like he has the dirties. 2:02:22.320 --> 2:02:24.640 It's low, like it's in the four good for him 2:02:24.680 --> 2:02:28.240 and he and he's just like he's just so fulfilled 2:02:28.280 --> 2:02:31.640 with just being being here, you know, like it's it's 2:02:31.760 --> 2:02:35.520 just it's just enough, like and and that's one thing 2:02:35.560 --> 2:02:38.320 I'm I'm if there's anything I want. My goal is 2:02:38.400 --> 2:02:41.480 just to have enough, like it's and and create my 2:02:41.800 --> 2:02:43.800 you can kind of create enough just right here in 2:02:43.880 --> 2:02:45.560 the moment, if you if you can get your mind right, 2:02:45.680 --> 2:02:47.680 you know what I mean, This is enough just having 2:02:47.920 --> 2:02:50.640 having a human experience and even the hard parts of it. 2:02:50.760 --> 2:02:53.160 It's enough, you know, like it's enough to have. And 2:02:53.320 --> 2:02:55.560 that dude, that dude showed me like I'm inspired by 2:02:55.600 --> 2:02:57.480 those dudes. I have a bunch of famous friends who 2:02:57.600 --> 2:03:01.800 fucking so successful and millions of dollars and in every 2:03:01.840 --> 2:03:03.040 sense of the word, are killing it. 2:03:04.000 --> 2:03:07.480 But I looked at him. No, it's those too. 2:03:07.520 --> 2:03:09.480 You're just like you feel like they have so much 2:03:09.560 --> 2:03:12.680 like stress or they're like anger, or it's like something's 2:03:12.720 --> 2:03:13.080 not enough. 2:03:13.120 --> 2:03:16.880 You're just like, bro, you got a lot of shit. Yeah, yeah, 2:03:17.360 --> 2:03:18.160 there's a thing like that. 2:03:18.320 --> 2:03:20.760 Someone says something just like you get to the point 2:03:20.800 --> 2:03:23.480 where do you own the things? Like when you have 2:03:23.520 --> 2:03:25.160 a lot of things, like yeah, you own them? 2:03:25.240 --> 2:03:25.840 Or do they own you? 2:03:26.200 --> 2:03:28.120 Like all you're doing is like paying for upkeep and 2:03:28.240 --> 2:03:30.440 like worried about and don't touch this and don't touch that, 2:03:30.640 --> 2:03:32.640 like you know what I mean, Like I'm I'm going 2:03:33.760 --> 2:03:35.680 I'm just going the other way, like I drive a jeep, 2:03:36.000 --> 2:03:38.240 you know what I mean, Like, I don't give a fuck. 2:03:38.280 --> 2:03:41.160 It's it's a nice vehicle, Chevy, but it's nice vehicle. 2:03:41.200 --> 2:03:42.240 It's not it's not a Chevy. 2:03:42.360 --> 2:03:45.480 Yeah, but you know what I'm saying, Like honestly, like 2:03:45.680 --> 2:03:47.520 I said it to him versa on the ride here, 2:03:47.560 --> 2:03:50.320 I was just like, we're ramping up. We've been very idle. 2:03:50.480 --> 2:03:52.760 I've been working hard, but in the house a lot 2:03:52.920 --> 2:03:55.120 through COVID and not touring for three years. We're about 2:03:55.120 --> 2:03:58.600 to go on fifty dates a big tour, and I'm 2:03:58.760 --> 2:04:00.880 ramping up and being more and I'm like, I don't 2:04:00.880 --> 2:04:03.960 even know, like I'm gonna. I'm gonna the challenge is 2:04:04.000 --> 2:04:06.360 to be president, to enjoy it all and not dread it. 2:04:06.760 --> 2:04:11.280 But like you know, I'm I'm not necessarily like super 2:04:11.480 --> 2:04:14.000 that that doesn't get my rocks off anymore, having attention 2:04:14.120 --> 2:04:15.800 and being on stage, and you know what I mean. 2:04:16.280 --> 2:04:17.960 So that's just like the direction I'm going. I don't 2:04:18.000 --> 2:04:18.760 know what it turns into. 2:04:18.760 --> 2:04:19.040 I don't know. 2:04:19.080 --> 2:04:20.800 If I fucking retire in a year, I don't know. 2:04:20.960 --> 2:04:21.520 I have no idea. 2:04:21.680 --> 2:04:23.880 It could just be nervous, not at all, like I'm 2:04:23.920 --> 2:04:25.960 not nervous. I don't get nervous. I've never been nervous 2:04:26.000 --> 2:04:28.640 about playing shows ever. I don't know why, but I 2:04:28.720 --> 2:04:29.880 think that says like, do. 2:04:29.880 --> 2:04:32.160 You know, were you nervous when you play baseball? That's 2:04:32.240 --> 2:04:33.480 why I say I get nervous. 2:04:34.600 --> 2:04:37.320 The reason why is when you played baseball, you put 2:04:37.360 --> 2:04:40.280 so much pressure on yourself and you transition to something else, 2:04:40.320 --> 2:04:42.360 You're like, well, I was, I'm not gonna be stressed 2:04:42.360 --> 2:04:43.800 about this because I was. I'm just left something I 2:04:43.920 --> 2:04:47.120 was stressed from exactly, and I'm and I'm and I'm like, 2:04:47.200 --> 2:04:49.200 I don't have any expectations of myself as an artist. 2:04:49.240 --> 2:04:50.440 I'm supposed to suck. I don't even know. 2:04:50.640 --> 2:04:52.920 Like now I've I've gone on. I've been doing it 2:04:53.000 --> 2:04:55.120 for a while, so you know, it's a little different. 2:04:55.160 --> 2:04:56.560 But like when I started, I would just go out 2:04:56.600 --> 2:04:59.080 there and bullshit and like that was all Like my 2:04:59.200 --> 2:05:03.520 whole performance style was birthed out of not being good. 2:05:04.240 --> 2:05:06.280 Like I had two songs like yeah, not trying, so 2:05:06.280 --> 2:05:06.960 I'll go out there. 2:05:07.800 --> 2:05:09.520 I'd have twenty minutes in front of the crowd, and 2:05:09.600 --> 2:05:11.880 I by the time I got off stage, I like, 2:05:11.960 --> 2:05:13.800 I like that guy. You know, like we got drunk 2:05:13.880 --> 2:05:16.760 and we fucking played some songs, you know, like kind 2:05:16.800 --> 2:05:18.960 of that's just how it all came to fruition. You know, 2:05:19.600 --> 2:05:21.200 I don't know, I don't know where it goes from here. 2:05:21.320 --> 2:05:23.440 I love making music, I love performing. That's not what 2:05:23.520 --> 2:05:26.720 I'm saying, but I'm definitely My biggest goals are just 2:05:26.760 --> 2:05:30.240 about being present, being peaceful, you know, like I fucking 2:05:30.280 --> 2:05:33.360 love being peaceful, Like being in Montana the snow area. Yeah, 2:05:34.040 --> 2:05:37.440 no area, Yeah in the snow uh yeah. It was 2:05:37.480 --> 2:05:38.880 like no one in the cold water. 2:05:39.000 --> 2:05:41.840 There was no one around it, and I fucking loved it. So, 2:05:42.160 --> 2:05:43.800 you know, these are all new things for me. 2:05:44.560 --> 2:05:49.040 Baseball is back. 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He wouldn't. 2:07:05.720 --> 2:07:08.040 Yeah, we we we definitely like, we talked about this 2:07:08.080 --> 2:07:09.920 a lot. We we loved all the houses and shit. 2:07:10.040 --> 2:07:12.160 Like, one thing we have done is we've nailed the houses, 2:07:12.280 --> 2:07:16.120 you know, so we've had good setups and stuff. I 2:07:16.200 --> 2:07:19.560 would I would pick There's different answers for different things, 2:07:19.640 --> 2:07:21.960 but I would My favorite is Austin, Texas. I think 2:07:23.000 --> 2:07:25.160 I'm on the lake there. I just love it, and 2:07:25.280 --> 2:07:28.240 I think it's the most well rounded. That answer is 2:07:28.320 --> 2:07:32.880 for where I would probably settle, you know, the most 2:07:33.040 --> 2:07:36.080 unique and and and like really interesting for me, I 2:07:36.360 --> 2:07:38.520 think personally me, because I think the guy's got a 2:07:38.560 --> 2:07:41.360 little board. Was Montana. We're on a hundred acre ranch. 2:07:41.400 --> 2:07:43.720 There's no one in sight, it's fucking middle of the winter. 2:07:44.360 --> 2:07:48.920 Always saw I saw more elk than fucking people, you know. Yeah, yeah, 2:07:49.200 --> 2:07:52.120 And you know, so water and mountains are like my things, 2:07:52.160 --> 2:07:55.000 you know. So the lake we're on Lake Travis and Austin, 2:07:55.440 --> 2:07:56.400 and I loved Montana. 2:07:56.480 --> 2:07:57.920 I loved it here. You saw you came to the 2:07:57.960 --> 2:08:01.200 house in Broadway. Yeah you had a nice and I said, wow, 2:08:01.440 --> 2:08:03.120 I mean that you would not go on around you. 2:08:03.200 --> 2:08:05.440 I wouldn't die if I live going on. I mean, 2:08:05.560 --> 2:08:07.280 like talk about the opposite of peace. 2:08:07.800 --> 2:08:13.480 Me up there, great ski the baton. Yeah, he's gonna 2:08:13.480 --> 2:08:18.440 go go do the raw ross stuff. Yeah, live there. 2:08:18.800 --> 2:08:20.800 They did live there. He's I don't think he's he's 2:08:20.840 --> 2:08:22.480 not with the squad anymore. I don't know where he's at. 2:08:22.720 --> 2:08:23.080 He's out. 2:08:23.880 --> 2:08:28.200 I wanna sounds for Julio Jones, everybody, Thank you, thank you. 2:08:29.360 --> 2:08:32.520 Where do you uh see yourself in? Like I mean, 2:08:32.560 --> 2:08:33.800 I don't want to say, like where do you see 2:08:33.840 --> 2:08:35.680 yourself in five years? But earlier when you were saying 2:08:36.080 --> 2:08:38.400 you don't know how much longer you can sustain it, 2:08:38.560 --> 2:08:40.680 what do you actually see you for yourself. 2:08:40.360 --> 2:08:40.880 In the future. 2:08:42.120 --> 2:08:44.080 It's funny, Well think about it, like what's something that's 2:08:44.080 --> 2:08:45.760 starting to come out of Like this is where I 2:08:45.800 --> 2:08:46.480 see myself going. 2:08:46.480 --> 2:08:47.920 You're gonna hate this, cause I'm gonna give you an 2:08:47.920 --> 2:08:50.040 answer like I I've already I've already talked about this 2:08:50.120 --> 2:08:52.320 with somebody, Like I can't answer that. I don't know 2:08:52.360 --> 2:08:54.080 what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing for the 2:08:54.160 --> 2:08:58.280 next fucking five months. I'm toring, but I these guys 2:08:58.360 --> 2:09:00.200 know I have some weird things in my life. We're 2:09:00.240 --> 2:09:02.000 not gonna go there, like relationships and. 2:09:02.320 --> 2:09:05.160 In Europe and like I want to go to Europe, 2:09:05.680 --> 2:09:06.520 you know, in general. 2:09:06.680 --> 2:09:10.280 Before this even happened on his way, I think, yeah, 2:09:10.360 --> 2:09:13.240 like I'm just I'm just fucking I don't know. I 2:09:13.360 --> 2:09:15.520 know I'm gonna make music for for some for a 2:09:15.560 --> 2:09:19.360 good amount of time. Still, will I be like everything 2:09:19.400 --> 2:09:22.000 we're just talking about for me, it's going to a 2:09:22.040 --> 2:09:24.960 place where like I don't think it's like I don't 2:09:24.960 --> 2:09:26.720 think it's like the best way to live the rest 2:09:26.760 --> 2:09:29.760 of my life, Like taking out my phone being like, hey, guys, 2:09:29.840 --> 2:09:32.280 here here's where I am today. Maybe swipe up and 2:09:32.360 --> 2:09:33.839 fucking download my new podcast. 2:09:33.920 --> 2:09:35.400 You know what I mean? Like I do that, you 2:09:35.480 --> 2:09:36.040 need to relax. 2:09:41.520 --> 2:09:49.120 We love what we're doing. Yeah, that's gonna be the promo. 2:09:51.480 --> 2:09:55.520 I don't want to be that guy we do stars exactly. 2:09:55.640 --> 2:09:58.480 No, I'm doing the same thing I'm saying for the 2:09:58.640 --> 2:10:00.320 longevity of my life. Like I don't I don't know 2:10:00.360 --> 2:10:02.440 when that bell goes off or I'm just like, you know, 2:10:02.600 --> 2:10:04.920 I don't know. I don't know, like I I do. 2:10:05.160 --> 2:10:07.360 If I had to guess, I'm gonna make music and 2:10:07.440 --> 2:10:11.160 tour for at least another two or three years. Do 2:10:11.280 --> 2:10:12.960 I think I'll ride off into the sunset and like 2:10:13.000 --> 2:10:15.160 people don't know who where the fuck I am and 2:10:15.280 --> 2:10:15.880 what's happened? 2:10:16.440 --> 2:10:17.400 Yes, I do. 2:10:17.520 --> 2:10:20.240 I think that will definitely happen at that McAfee. Yeah, 2:10:20.400 --> 2:10:24.440 it's just like I'm making money, I'm hustling. It's not 2:10:24.560 --> 2:10:27.480 to be seen like I'd rather disappear, if that makes 2:10:27.480 --> 2:10:28.760 any sense, you know what I mean. I'd like to 2:10:28.840 --> 2:10:32.000 make enough money and have enough success where I feel 2:10:32.040 --> 2:10:34.720 I have closure with it and I know my friends 2:10:34.760 --> 2:10:37.120 and my family are good, you know what I mean, 2:10:37.560 --> 2:10:39.360 And then I can you know, because I want to 2:10:39.400 --> 2:10:41.040 have my own family and do all that shit. 2:10:41.080 --> 2:10:44.560 You know, I've lived such a ratchet lifestyle, like very. 2:10:44.520 --> 2:10:49.040 Immature, you know, like all about me, women all the time, 2:10:49.360 --> 2:10:52.160 you know, nothing real like, so there's there's other things 2:10:52.240 --> 2:10:54.440 to life that I'm aware of, and I'm just fucking 2:10:55.080 --> 2:10:57.440 being becoming spiritual, and shit has kind of like opened 2:10:57.440 --> 2:10:57.960 my eyes to it. 2:10:58.040 --> 2:10:58.160 You know. 2:10:58.200 --> 2:10:59.640 I used to think it was the best thing ever 2:10:59.720 --> 2:11:02.400 to just fuck whoever and you know, and and and 2:11:02.600 --> 2:11:05.560 just have all the attention and and not have responsibilities 2:11:05.600 --> 2:11:05.880 and ship. 2:11:05.960 --> 2:11:06.120 You know. 2:11:06.280 --> 2:11:10.040 So I don't know, that's that's where I'm headed. Steve, Yeah, 2:11:10.120 --> 2:11:12.440 big pop, Steve, you don't monetize the baby. You got to. 2:11:14.120 --> 2:11:16.440 Get a little bit, will I'll be monetizing my baby, yes, 2:11:16.920 --> 2:11:19.160 the little baby bucket hats with Steven stranch On. 2:11:19.200 --> 2:11:20.960 That's when I'll come back there you go, I'll come 2:11:21.000 --> 2:11:22.880 back to the internet, and I have a baby, and 2:11:22.920 --> 2:11:24.280 I'm ready to monetize her. You know. 2:11:24.440 --> 2:11:28.960 Yeah, I'm ready to monetize her be a girl. Just 2:11:29.880 --> 2:11:31.920 oh as far as like things running their course, Ball 2:11:31.960 --> 2:11:34.880 Don't Lie? Yeah, what what's happened with Ball Don't lie? 2:11:35.040 --> 2:11:38.760 Man Johnny And Yeah. 2:11:38.920 --> 2:11:41.480 Like I'm I am a full time Johnny Manziel wrangler, 2:11:41.760 --> 2:11:43.960 Like I'm that's probably one of my best gifts. 2:11:44.200 --> 2:11:46.000 Like I'm one of the only guys that can wrangle 2:11:46.080 --> 2:11:46.920 him in for some stuff. 2:11:47.160 --> 2:11:51.240 Yeah, And and he's one of my favorite people, you know, 2:11:51.400 --> 2:11:55.360 Like he has his hardships and his have been blasted 2:11:55.440 --> 2:11:59.520 all over the internet for years and TV and everything else. 2:11:59.600 --> 2:12:01.480 But love the guy. Root for the guy. 2:12:01.640 --> 2:12:04.760 It's one of my missions is to help him be sustainable. 2:12:04.840 --> 2:12:07.840 And there's like there's like this hooplab about him that's 2:12:07.880 --> 2:12:10.360 like he's comes from oil money man, Like he's good. 2:12:10.480 --> 2:12:12.400 Like no, like there's money in his face. It's not 2:12:12.600 --> 2:12:13.120 his he's not. 2:12:13.480 --> 2:12:16.480 But I mean, like I know him, we're he he needs, 2:12:16.640 --> 2:12:18.520 you know, like he's he's looking for stability in his 2:12:18.600 --> 2:12:20.440 life and he has his own battles, and I love 2:12:20.480 --> 2:12:20.720 the guy. 2:12:20.720 --> 2:12:23.200 And I want to help him, and we've done well a. 2:12:23.240 --> 2:12:25.480 Few different times, making making him some money, and we're 2:12:25.480 --> 2:12:29.400 working on something else with with no oh really. 2:12:31.720 --> 2:12:34.840 Yeah, maybe we even bleep out. We can bleep out, 2:12:35.920 --> 2:12:39.400 bleep out, Yeah, well bleep. 2:12:40.000 --> 2:12:45.040 Sleep we need to bleep out, don't when they bring 2:12:45.200 --> 2:12:49.040 up when they bring up about Johnny doing a thing 2:12:49.080 --> 2:12:50.680 with Yeah. 2:12:51.320 --> 2:12:55.800 Are you able to spill some tea for bleeping out? No? 2:12:55.920 --> 2:12:57.480 I mean you know, like I think you should. Yeah, 2:12:57.480 --> 2:12:59.240 there's things we can bla there's an obvious just the 2:12:59.320 --> 2:13:00.880 next three minute bleep this whole thing. 2:13:01.040 --> 2:13:03.440 Yeah, there's an obvious there's an obvious story to be 2:13:03.520 --> 2:13:07.200 told right with him. So that's it's not rocket science 2:13:07.240 --> 2:13:08.960 what it's going to be, you know, but it's doing 2:13:09.040 --> 2:13:11.560 it the right way. And we have we have a 2:13:12.000 --> 2:13:13.920 I mean I'm in the middle of it, uh, but 2:13:14.040 --> 2:13:15.880 we have we have an amazing partner. 2:13:18.360 --> 2:13:20.280 And it looks like it's gonna come to fruition. So 2:13:20.600 --> 2:13:22.600 it's it's still it's still premature, but. 2:13:23.080 --> 2:13:24.040 Yeah, it's time. 2:13:24.160 --> 2:13:25.440 He's ready to. He's ready to. 2:13:25.840 --> 2:13:27.480 That's what bottle't Lie was a step in the right 2:13:27.520 --> 2:13:30.080 direction and just kind of showing his true colors and 2:13:30.240 --> 2:13:32.600 like he has to, you know, he just has to 2:13:33.360 --> 2:13:35.960 stamp his put his dig in a little bit, you know, 2:13:36.080 --> 2:13:38.720 on the next chapter, dig in commit, you know what 2:13:38.760 --> 2:13:42.160 I mean. And and Battn't Lie I think could come back, 2:13:42.320 --> 2:13:44.840 like we're kind of taking it in seasons, you know, 2:13:44.960 --> 2:13:48.080 but like I think, I think the whole goal was 2:13:48.160 --> 2:13:50.800 to kind of get what we're working on now, like 2:13:50.880 --> 2:13:54.400 a bigger a bigger like more or less taking what 2:13:54.720 --> 2:13:57.000 the content matter of bottn't lie and telling the whole 2:13:57.080 --> 2:13:58.680 story visually, you know. 2:13:58.840 --> 2:13:58.920 Like. 2:14:00.560 --> 2:14:03.000 The right way, the right way where visually you watch it, 2:14:03.200 --> 2:14:06.680 like the Tony Hawk documentary they did that HBO. 2:14:06.840 --> 2:14:10.040 Yeah, yeah, fantastic. And and I think it will. 2:14:10.120 --> 2:14:11.800 I think it will be really great for him. And 2:14:11.960 --> 2:14:16.040 he he's actually ready to like give it, give it 2:14:16.080 --> 2:14:18.960 another chance, to just like rebranded, a fresh start, you know, 2:14:19.120 --> 2:14:21.000 like whatever whatever it's going to be. I think he's 2:14:21.040 --> 2:14:24.480 extremely personable. Everyone who meets him loves him. You know. 2:14:24.880 --> 2:14:26.720 I think he's gonna figure it out. And I'm just 2:14:26.800 --> 2:14:28.560 trying to be the guy that can help him in 2:14:28.680 --> 2:14:29.040 some way. 2:14:29.160 --> 2:14:29.320 You know. 2:14:29.920 --> 2:14:33.040 He's a fucking legend, you know, probably the most polarizing 2:14:33.080 --> 2:14:36.840 in college collegiate athlete of all time top five at least, 2:14:36.960 --> 2:14:43.160 you know so Hoping Robinson, Way, no way, do you 2:14:43.200 --> 2:14:45.000 think it's the most collegive Who do you think is 2:14:45.000 --> 2:14:47.040 the most polarizing collegiate athlete of all time? 2:14:47.120 --> 2:14:49.080 If not N's minus Tim Tebow. I was gonna say 2:14:49.120 --> 2:14:50.920 Tim Tebow is a big one, more than more than 2:14:51.000 --> 2:14:52.320 Johnny Bush is a good one. 2:14:52.560 --> 2:14:54.720 Johnny just because he had all the just because everything 2:14:54.760 --> 2:14:57.040 that was like Tim Tebow wasn't like getting shot out 2:14:57.040 --> 2:14:59.040 in a Drake song, you know what I mean. 2:14:59.000 --> 2:15:00.440 Like, yeah, but that wasn't his clientele. 2:15:00.520 --> 2:15:03.040 He was getting shot out in every church though, what 2:15:03.080 --> 2:15:05.400 I'm saying, and that's a way bigger demographic. 2:15:06.200 --> 2:15:10.560 Valid, way bigger population. Yeah, Jay's been shot out and 2:15:11.320 --> 2:15:12.600 on the president. 2:15:13.080 --> 2:15:15.760 In college years it was good point. And I'm talking 2:15:15.880 --> 2:15:19.320 like literally like Lebron James is wearing a money Manzel 2:15:19.440 --> 2:15:21.480 fucking T shirt doing the money Manzel and he was 2:15:21.520 --> 2:15:23.600 a fucking college kid, you know what I mean. 2:15:23.720 --> 2:15:26.080 Like, but also Tim Tebow didn't. There wasn't as much 2:15:26.120 --> 2:15:28.680 social media then. There wasn't really what Johnny either. It 2:15:28.680 --> 2:15:29.360 was the very beginning. 2:15:29.840 --> 2:15:32.880 What year was that it was ten years Well, we 2:15:33.240 --> 2:15:34.280 didn't have the same draft class. 2:15:34.280 --> 2:15:37.000 So fourteen, Yeah, it was about I think he said 2:15:37.040 --> 2:15:39.200 a decade ago, the same draft class. 2:15:40.800 --> 2:15:42.480 You should have seen You should have seen Johnny during 2:15:42.520 --> 2:15:44.560 the draft. Oh what was he doing? 2:15:44.760 --> 2:15:45.400 Bro uh? 2:15:45.960 --> 2:15:48.120 Because he was thinking. We rode over in the buses 2:15:48.120 --> 2:15:49.920 over there. It was like Mother's Day weekend, so his mom, 2:15:50.400 --> 2:15:52.200 my mom, him and a bunch of other players and 2:15:52.200 --> 2:15:55.000 their families are driving and he's sitting right behind me 2:15:55.040 --> 2:15:57.480 and he's talking about like, I think It'm gonna be 2:15:57.520 --> 2:16:00.160 the first overall pick. Like he's like, because I knew who, 2:16:01.200 --> 2:16:03.480 but there was talk about him being that. And one 2:16:03.480 --> 2:16:05.400 of the big question marks was like all the stuff 2:16:05.440 --> 2:16:07.120 kind of was coming up, like, oh he parties a 2:16:07.160 --> 2:16:09.280 lot on all this because he had a lot of time. 2:16:09.320 --> 2:16:12.400 He won the Heisman so young and then eyes around 2:16:12.400 --> 2:16:14.320 the whole time, so there's so much more dirt on him. 2:16:14.640 --> 2:16:16.560 And he thought he he thought there was a chance 2:16:16.600 --> 2:16:19.240 he'd be the number one overall pick. And we get 2:16:19.280 --> 2:16:20.760 to the draft room and obviously he went I think 2:16:20.840 --> 2:16:25.240 thirty one or twenty eight or higher. And the way 2:16:25.280 --> 2:16:26.920 it works in the draft is is like when you 2:16:27.000 --> 2:16:29.920 get picked, you get picked, and then you go and 2:16:30.040 --> 2:16:32.560 do this like room this media room of shit like 2:16:32.640 --> 2:16:34.760 with all these like mainstream media people, and they talk 2:16:34.760 --> 2:16:36.880 about how excited you are to be a Tennessee Titan 2:16:37.000 --> 2:16:39.840 or Cleveland Brown or whatever it is. And after that 2:16:39.920 --> 2:16:41.760 you kind of go back through the green room to leave. 2:16:41.800 --> 2:16:43.480 And I was going back through the green room to 2:16:43.560 --> 2:16:46.000 leave and he's sitting there like you could just tell you, 2:16:46.040 --> 2:16:47.520 He's like, fuck this place. 2:16:47.560 --> 2:16:49.640 I do not want to be here. So mad. 2:16:50.440 --> 2:16:50.960 When did you go? 2:16:52.040 --> 2:16:55.800 Fourteen? That was the same year, so twenty fourteen. How 2:16:55.920 --> 2:17:00.360 was that experience? It was cool? Did you always bad ass? 2:17:00.400 --> 2:17:01.600 Just kind of knew you're gonna be in the NFL 2:17:01.640 --> 2:17:03.080 your whole life type thing. I knew it's gonna be 2:17:03.080 --> 2:17:05.040 a bad uh badass. I knew I was gonna be 2:17:05.280 --> 2:17:08.320 a nfought it was a bad ass when I came 2:17:08.360 --> 2:17:08.920 out of the womb. 2:17:09.400 --> 2:17:11.920 I'm glad you asked No, I knew. I knew I 2:17:11.920 --> 2:17:13.119 was gonna be the NFL when I got my first 2:17:13.120 --> 2:17:15.640 scholarship offer, like that's I knew that that was like 2:17:15.720 --> 2:17:17.880 the the path I'm going to take. That's like that 2:17:18.040 --> 2:17:21.000 was because at that point where my life was, it 2:17:21.080 --> 2:17:24.080 was sporadic. I had I was in legal trouble, I 2:17:24.400 --> 2:17:26.200 was doing a lot of bad ship and then all 2:17:26.240 --> 2:17:28.520 really yeah, all of a sudden, I get the scholarship offer. 2:17:28.879 --> 2:17:30.440 You knows, I thought he was joking. 2:17:31.520 --> 2:17:31.920 No ship. 2:17:32.160 --> 2:17:34.280 Yeah, I was like doing a lot of bad ship. 2:17:34.400 --> 2:17:35.240 Now I got a little. 2:17:36.600 --> 2:17:38.080 I'm thirty, now, you know what I'm saying. I got 2:17:38.120 --> 2:17:38.480 two kids. 2:17:38.480 --> 2:17:39.640 I'm just trying to be the best at I can be, 2:17:39.879 --> 2:17:43.320 you know exactly. But I knew like that from that point. Okay, 2:17:43.320 --> 2:17:44.520 I'm gonna go to the NFL case. 2:17:44.560 --> 2:17:46.440 You know what I'm saying. There's obviously times of doubt, 2:17:47.080 --> 2:17:50.200 but like not really. When I saw you, you were, 2:17:50.400 --> 2:17:52.800 you were your knee was banged up. No, dude, it's 2:17:52.800 --> 2:17:54.240 still little, but it. 2:17:54.280 --> 2:17:55.880 Works real well. An They're both little. I just got 2:17:55.920 --> 2:17:59.000 little legs. Yeah, these little things move though. You know 2:17:59.040 --> 2:18:01.080 what I'm saying, work for you, they're working for me. 2:18:01.680 --> 2:18:03.440 A couple of pistons, just getting after it. 2:18:03.600 --> 2:18:05.160 Have you been in have you been a tighten your 2:18:05.280 --> 2:18:05.720 entire career? 2:18:05.879 --> 2:18:06.039 Yeah? 2:18:06.520 --> 2:18:08.920 Since fourteen, so going on nine. He was the longest 2:18:08.920 --> 2:18:12.160 tenured guy. No, our punter is he's been there for twelve. 2:18:12.360 --> 2:18:13.959 He's not taking any fucking impact. 2:18:14.400 --> 2:18:14.600 Yeah. 2:18:14.840 --> 2:18:17.040 Yeah, No, it's really cool because like I feel like 2:18:17.080 --> 2:18:19.520 yesterday I was a rookie. You're like, damn weird do 2:18:19.600 --> 2:18:21.160 it for ten years and like you're going to your 2:18:21.240 --> 2:18:23.760 nine Like yeah, they say, don't fall in love with 2:18:23.800 --> 2:18:26.640 the franchise, but I've absolutely done that. I've absolutely fallen 2:18:26.680 --> 2:18:28.320 in love with the Tennessee Titans. I love like being 2:18:28.360 --> 2:18:30.920 a part of it. I love the culture. And I 2:18:31.040 --> 2:18:32.320 say it all the time. I love being a part 2:18:32.360 --> 2:18:36.200 of something that's really wasn't special. I wasn't a special franchise. 2:18:36.200 --> 2:18:38.760 There's nothing really no draw about the Tennessee Titans in fourteen. 2:18:39.280 --> 2:18:43.000 We're really bad to helping being a part of something 2:18:43.080 --> 2:18:46.520 that's like grown potentially and like has become like kids 2:18:46.560 --> 2:18:48.720 have become fans, and yeah, you have great players like 2:18:48.800 --> 2:18:50.760 Derrick Henry and it's just like it's been cool. 2:18:51.200 --> 2:18:54.520 You've you've you've seen Nashville Transformer in front of your eyes. 2:18:54.440 --> 2:18:58.240 Been Yeah, it's day and night different the skyline, right, Yeah, 2:18:58.280 --> 2:19:00.920 it's been wild. The guy before me, Michael Ruse, who 2:19:01.000 --> 2:19:03.320 was here for ten years. It's really cool because in 2:19:03.360 --> 2:19:05.600 the last twenty eight now going on twenty nine years, 2:19:06.520 --> 2:19:11.160 Tesse Times have had three tackles. Was it was great longevity. 2:19:12.560 --> 2:19:14.840 He hop was the first tackle. He was there for ten. 2:19:14.879 --> 2:19:16.840 Michael Ruse played for ten. Then I came in replaced 2:19:16.840 --> 2:19:19.240 Michael Roose and it's been nine. So it's been or 2:19:19.320 --> 2:19:21.480 going into nine, it's been it's been a really cool experience. 2:19:21.560 --> 2:19:23.959 Super lucky because he kind of when you get drafted, 2:19:24.000 --> 2:19:25.879 everybody wants to like stay in the same spot they are, 2:19:25.920 --> 2:19:27.840 and you have this idea of what your life's going 2:19:27.920 --> 2:19:29.800 to be like as a player, and you know, for 2:19:29.840 --> 2:19:32.360 the most part, except for these last two years, it's 2:19:32.400 --> 2:19:34.720 really gone exactly like it has in my head. 2:19:34.920 --> 2:19:38.320 Yeah, you know when you say, except just the injury. Yeah, injury. 2:19:38.400 --> 2:19:38.879 I came back. 2:19:39.480 --> 2:19:41.320 I tore my a cl really three years because I 2:19:41.440 --> 2:19:44.320 I I popped for a ped that I didn't know 2:19:44.400 --> 2:19:46.080 I was taking. Obviously I can go down this whole 2:19:46.160 --> 2:19:49.400 ratit the debate allegedly right and argue with a bunch 2:19:49.400 --> 2:19:52.640 of people again. And then the end of the year 2:19:52.640 --> 2:19:55.199 finished great once the AFC Championship. Oh he's in joining 2:19:55.280 --> 2:19:55.560 the team. 2:19:55.680 --> 2:19:57.320 Yeah, you know, I just figured I would switch it up. 2:19:57.400 --> 2:20:00.880 Yeah when the scene, yeah, bodcast are dude. Yeah, I 2:20:00.959 --> 2:20:02.480 do like the brand too, it's that's hype. 2:20:02.760 --> 2:20:03.000 Thank you. 2:20:03.440 --> 2:20:05.160 Yeah, I got the p D, and then the next 2:20:05.240 --> 2:20:07.240 year I tore my a c L and then last 2:20:07.320 --> 2:20:09.720 year it was just I was it was kind of 2:20:09.760 --> 2:20:11.520 like what you were saying when you were talking about baseball, 2:20:11.640 --> 2:20:13.959 how you just kind of like towards the end of season, 2:20:14.040 --> 2:20:16.400 I was like playing better, I was playing well. I'm like, 2:20:16.480 --> 2:20:17.920 how am I doing? Like how do you guys not 2:20:17.959 --> 2:20:20.240 getting past me type of vibe right now? Like I 2:20:20.360 --> 2:20:22.760 feel fantastic again. So I'm really excited to see like 2:20:22.840 --> 2:20:24.600 what happens in the future. 2:20:24.640 --> 2:20:27.600 Amazing. I mean, dude, that's a a fucking long career. 2:20:27.840 --> 2:20:29.880 I mean, knock on wood, that's the fucking like, well, 2:20:29.879 --> 2:20:32.680 this is your ten over here, your ten. You're going 2:20:32.720 --> 2:20:36.960 on your ten, loading your tins loading how you might 2:20:37.000 --> 2:20:38.920 come back. I want to sign some light on you 2:20:39.040 --> 2:20:42.320 for a second. You're you're doing exactly what you're supposed 2:20:42.320 --> 2:20:43.360 to be doing right now. I hope you know. I 2:20:43.440 --> 2:20:45.440 hope you know that. Like I do feel really when 2:20:45.480 --> 2:20:48.880 I watch your like the ship where you like call 2:20:49.040 --> 2:20:55.199 the guy into the closet laugh, I'm not fucking entertaining 2:20:55.240 --> 2:20:57.360 that easy. Like I was laughing lou loud, like it 2:20:57.480 --> 2:21:00.920 was you had let's go, but what you're doing. I 2:21:01.000 --> 2:21:02.800 mean we talked about it on our podcast when you 2:21:02.879 --> 2:21:04.880 came on. For any of the Bust and fans that 2:21:04.920 --> 2:21:07.200 haven't seen it, let's shamelessly plug it. Go check it out. 2:21:07.320 --> 2:21:08.959 I was sweating profusely. I think I was hung over 2:21:09.000 --> 2:21:11.000 again or something something happen. Probably were I don't know 2:21:11.040 --> 2:21:14.400 what happened. You get me, you get me hot and bothered. Yeah, Johnny, Johnny, 2:21:15.040 --> 2:21:17.080 but you're doing uh, you're doing it like you're you 2:21:17.160 --> 2:21:19.240 got to. You got a little thing for this. Yeah, 2:21:19.240 --> 2:21:20.720 I feel like you can really crush it. You guys 2:21:20.720 --> 2:21:22.959 are doing great, especially for the social media world. This man, 2:21:23.040 --> 2:21:26.560 he's probably the best fall on Twitter. Like, you know, 2:21:26.800 --> 2:21:28.000 just go after it's really good. 2:21:28.040 --> 2:21:31.320 We're in that phase again, you're just getting complimented, well, 2:21:31.680 --> 2:21:34.160 learning to accept the compliment. Yes, that's a very difficult 2:21:34.200 --> 2:21:36.560 time of like yeah, it's like you want to hear it, 2:21:37.000 --> 2:21:38.280 but when you start to hear you're like, all right, 2:21:38.320 --> 2:21:38.760 that's enough. 2:21:39.160 --> 2:21:40.720 Yeah. Yeah, Like I'm already smiling. 2:21:40.760 --> 2:21:44.360 I want you guys to know I'm happy for you 2:21:44.480 --> 2:21:47.720 because I know, I know, I know what it's like 2:21:47.840 --> 2:21:49.959 to be like, you know, the career, like you were 2:21:50.160 --> 2:21:53.240 fucking eat your everything in your life was about football, 2:21:53.280 --> 2:21:55.840 your entire life, like for the most part, like you 2:21:55.920 --> 2:21:58.000 were just that guy. You're like a gritty, fucking I'm 2:21:58.000 --> 2:22:00.560 gonna bully my way into the NFL. And you did it, dog, Yeah, 2:22:00.600 --> 2:22:02.520 and you did it. And then like that's gonna run 2:22:02.560 --> 2:22:04.640 its course. I don't know however long you're gonna do it. Still, 2:22:04.680 --> 2:22:06.120 but like it's obviously you're not an idiot. You're not 2:22:06.160 --> 2:22:08.720 a fucking idiot. Like you're paying attention, you know, but 2:22:08.879 --> 2:22:13.039 you're and you have that yeah, that little not confusion 2:22:13.160 --> 2:22:14.600 or just understanding what's next. 2:22:14.640 --> 2:22:17.600 And like absolutely I'm here to say you're doing exactly 2:22:17.800 --> 2:22:20.440 so you don't now, but I think I appreciate that. 2:22:20.520 --> 2:22:23.119 Man. Really good pick up playoff really yeah, oh yeah. 2:22:23.280 --> 2:22:24.440 If I was a guy, I just pick you up 2:22:24.520 --> 2:22:26.480 just from morale. I don't know how you're a morale. Guys, 2:22:27.320 --> 2:22:29.200 there's a price for that. I'm still hey, the Raiders 2:22:29.240 --> 2:22:32.199 are still in play that I'm not pissed at the Raiders. Yeah, everyone, 2:22:32.280 --> 2:22:34.680 everyone's still in play. I take back, are you. 2:22:34.720 --> 2:22:37.040 Still is that a joke? Or you like still wanted 2:22:37.080 --> 2:22:38.160 to play? You want to play another year? 2:22:40.200 --> 2:22:43.119 Ladies and gentlemen, please just do us a huge favor. 2:22:43.200 --> 2:22:44.800 I know we've talked about it gets a little bit done. No, 2:22:44.879 --> 2:22:46.560 it's a little bit better when it's me and we'll 2:22:46.640 --> 2:22:48.920 doing this thing. But if you could go to Instagram 2:22:49.120 --> 2:22:51.720 follow the boys. If you go to Twitter, follow the Boys. 2:22:51.720 --> 2:22:53.560 If you go to YouTube, subscribe to the boys. 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I'm going to a 2:25:49.760 --> 2:25:50.640 different city this time. 2:25:50.760 --> 2:25:53.280 Like you gotta like you know, get quiet, put it 2:25:53.360 --> 2:25:55.120 over your head, reinvent yourself a little bit like that 2:25:55.200 --> 2:25:56.960 stress laying on the pillar and being like, yo, am 2:25:56.959 --> 2:25:58.720 I gonna be on this team? Like that type of 2:25:58.720 --> 2:26:00.720 those type of anxieties of kind of like gone, and 2:26:00.800 --> 2:26:04.160 it's more of like I enjoy playing because I know 2:26:04.400 --> 2:26:06.760 the ten year old will would be hype about what 2:26:06.840 --> 2:26:09.520 I'm doing and how I've kind of done my entire career. 2:26:09.640 --> 2:26:11.240 Like I feel at peace with a lot of stuff. 2:26:11.240 --> 2:26:13.400 So whether or not it happens, it's just, you know, 2:26:13.520 --> 2:26:16.360 that is what it is, Like I would enjoy playing again. Yeah, 2:26:16.800 --> 2:26:18.720 But as far as like that that want to like 2:26:19.160 --> 2:26:21.160 the obsession and the time and energy you got to 2:26:21.160 --> 2:26:23.080 put into a sport like football because it's a violent 2:26:23.160 --> 2:26:25.760 fucking game, right like you that's like a mentality that 2:26:25.840 --> 2:26:26.320 comes with it. 2:26:26.800 --> 2:26:29.760 And you know it's obviously it's like a bad. 2:26:29.640 --> 2:26:31.800 Thing to say or say it out loud, and with 2:26:31.920 --> 2:26:33.440 all the gems and the head coaches that listen to 2:26:33.520 --> 2:26:38.240 this podcast, you're right, But that kind of same drive 2:26:38.720 --> 2:26:41.120 that if I'm wanting to throw my head in the 2:26:41.160 --> 2:26:42.920 fan and put my face in the fan, just isn't 2:26:42.959 --> 2:26:43.440 there anymore? 2:26:43.600 --> 2:26:43.720 Right? 2:26:44.040 --> 2:26:44.160 Right? 2:26:44.280 --> 2:26:46.760 Yeah? It takes uh you guys like you gotta be 2:26:46.840 --> 2:26:48.520 kind of tapped to be like an NFL foot, like 2:26:48.959 --> 2:26:53.400 to take the fucking physical the just the physicality of 2:26:53.480 --> 2:26:55.720 what you guys do. Like and I was, I was 2:26:55.760 --> 2:26:58.600 an athlete, but like playing fucking baseball, would you know, like. 2:27:01.120 --> 2:27:01.600 Never heard of it? 2:27:02.400 --> 2:27:04.760 Never heard of it? No, But what you guys do, 2:27:05.360 --> 2:27:07.280 it's just like you guys are a different breed, you 2:27:07.320 --> 2:27:10.080 know what I mean. Like and to be a regular 2:27:10.160 --> 2:27:12.120 person in society, like you see a lot of guys 2:27:12.160 --> 2:27:15.520 have trouble with it. It's just like you're literally fucking 2:27:15.600 --> 2:27:18.920 running into a wall every day. Like if I can't 2:27:18.959 --> 2:27:21.480 think of something else in the world that I want 2:27:22.080 --> 2:27:24.280 I don't want to happen to me to get well, 2:27:24.320 --> 2:27:26.480 do what you do literally just get pushed and shoved 2:27:26.840 --> 2:27:28.360 and fucking trying to get thrown out of the way 2:27:28.840 --> 2:27:30.600 every fucking you know what I mean, Like you're literally 2:27:30.600 --> 2:27:32.039 a trench. Just are gritty. 2:27:32.320 --> 2:27:34.520 Yeah, it's it's a little grind out there, but it's 2:27:34.560 --> 2:27:38.240 one of those things where it's so hard for you 2:27:38.400 --> 2:27:40.600 to see and deal with. I can put myself in 2:27:41.240 --> 2:27:43.160 any game I've played right now and be like, yeah, 2:27:43.160 --> 2:27:44.840 it's just kind of what you do. Yeah, like you 2:27:44.959 --> 2:27:46.600 doing music for me to think, how am I gonna 2:27:46.600 --> 2:27:47.760 sit down and go write music? 2:27:48.160 --> 2:27:50.240 Put it be together? What's this course going to be? 2:27:50.360 --> 2:27:50.400 Like? 2:27:50.520 --> 2:27:51.880 How's gonna make it sound good? And then I wonder 2:27:51.879 --> 2:27:54.120 if people are gonna like it? Like that's a tough 2:27:54.240 --> 2:27:56.600 I can't imagine myself going to do that. It's it's 2:27:56.640 --> 2:27:58.440 the same thing over here, like I can. I can 2:27:58.520 --> 2:28:00.200 play football right now, and in my head it's I 2:28:00.280 --> 2:28:03.600 know every play, I know my techniques. I know is 2:28:03.640 --> 2:28:05.959 they're more of a finesse to your position than people. 2:28:06.080 --> 2:28:11.520 What's what kind of player you are? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 2:28:11.520 --> 2:28:13.400 I do. I'm because for a guy that's just more 2:28:13.400 --> 2:28:15.320 relatively athletic. I don't know if you guys have heard, 2:28:15.600 --> 2:28:18.480 but I can I can move. I can move, and 2:28:18.520 --> 2:28:19.800 that's that's a strong suit of my game. Like a 2:28:19.840 --> 2:28:23.000 lot of dudes are very overbearing, very like heavy guys, 2:28:23.080 --> 2:28:25.959 and I'm a slimmer three oh seven, three oh eight, 2:28:26.080 --> 2:28:29.320 where it's like, what are what are my strengths? Well, 2:28:29.320 --> 2:28:32.840 my strengths is quickness and you know, leverage and where 2:28:32.879 --> 2:28:34.600 I can kind of dip and move and bend a little. 2:28:34.400 --> 2:28:35.039 Bit better little bit. 2:28:36.240 --> 2:28:38.040 Yeah, no, I I definitely play a bit of an 2:28:38.120 --> 2:28:40.600 edge too, So if you kind of a lot of 2:28:40.640 --> 2:28:43.760 guys like to think like the big kind of cliche tattoo. 2:28:43.800 --> 2:28:44.960 A lot of guys gets like the lion. 2:28:45.240 --> 2:28:46.840 You know what I'm saying, I would get a gnat 2:28:47.440 --> 2:28:49.040 like because for me, I'm like, I'm just gonna bug 2:28:49.120 --> 2:28:50.360 you all for sixty minutes. 2:28:50.920 --> 2:28:52.960 I have better conditioning than you. I'm gonna be around you, 2:28:53.040 --> 2:28:55.760 bugging you, poking you, prying you like. That's my game. 2:28:56.080 --> 2:29:00.320 That's a little different. And that sounds terrible, terrible like that. Yeah, 2:29:00.920 --> 2:29:03.520 I can see it. And that's about anything else at 2:29:03.560 --> 2:29:03.880 the bottle. 2:29:05.160 --> 2:29:05.880 Yeah, I know, I know. 2:29:06.760 --> 2:29:09.040 Comeback season, I said, Taylor's that dude. Now, comeback season. 2:29:09.120 --> 2:29:10.280 Yeah, we thought it was last year. 2:29:10.440 --> 2:29:11.600 It's wrong. We were wrong. 2:29:13.000 --> 2:29:13.560 What is time? 2:29:13.760 --> 2:29:15.560 Yeah, it's always come back this year. 2:29:15.680 --> 2:29:18.200 Yeah, it still is exactly always come back the years 2:29:18.240 --> 2:29:18.520 a year. 2:29:18.680 --> 2:29:21.560 Right? Who made that role this year? 2:29:22.360 --> 2:29:22.520 Right? 2:29:24.440 --> 2:29:25.840 We appreciate both of you coming on. 2:29:26.160 --> 2:29:28.840 Oh hey we got we got a good tear talk. 2:29:32.640 --> 2:29:35.560 So we're doing uh, we're doing tear talk. Now implement 2:29:35.680 --> 2:29:40.280 this segment called tear talk. Today's tear talk is most 2:29:40.360 --> 2:29:44.959 attractive fictional characters. Okay, so Jack, Jackie boy back there, 2:29:45.800 --> 2:29:46.959 just like Jack. 2:29:46.959 --> 2:29:50.280 Great mullet, great man. One of the better mullet mustache 2:29:50.360 --> 2:29:53.520 combinations i've seen it. It's Hey, that's. 2:29:58.600 --> 2:30:00.320 I said, you want a mic wave? Now you so, Bro, 2:30:00.480 --> 2:30:02.960 I haven't let I didn't even know that this dude 2:30:03.040 --> 2:30:05.240 had music like that. Like I just got on him 2:30:05.240 --> 2:30:06.480 and I haven't stopped listening to him. 2:30:06.560 --> 2:30:06.840 Love it. 2:30:09.120 --> 2:30:11.840 You will fire? Are you guys gonna be able to come? 2:30:11.879 --> 2:30:12.840 Or now you're not gonna be able to? 2:30:13.040 --> 2:30:13.800 What's the date? 2:30:14.000 --> 2:30:18.480 The nineteenth? I can do that an hour, don't don't. 2:30:19.720 --> 2:30:21.880 I'm not coming, Mike. I'm truly gonna do my best. 2:30:22.560 --> 2:30:24.680 The boys that I was doing. Well's got this new 2:30:24.720 --> 2:30:25.440 thing he's trying out. 2:30:25.480 --> 2:30:29.000 There's this new gig I got going on. I gotta 2:30:29.040 --> 2:30:30.400 be too, but I'm gonna wait it out. 2:30:31.520 --> 2:30:32.039 Well, we'll see. 2:30:32.040 --> 2:30:34.760 I'm legitimately gonna try like I'm gonna try and yeah, 2:30:35.080 --> 2:30:36.039 finagle that a little bit. 2:30:36.840 --> 2:30:37.440 I want to be there. 2:30:37.440 --> 2:30:38.200 I'm hype for you, bro. 2:30:38.520 --> 2:30:42.480 I'm still You're still going on coming but coming, but 2:30:42.640 --> 2:30:44.120 like the support let me if you can, you know, 2:30:44.320 --> 2:30:46.440 I don't know what the talking. Bro, we're still in 2:30:46.480 --> 2:30:50.040 the pods keys, are we still? I am? 2:30:50.480 --> 2:30:51.880 I am fired up for you bro, I think it's 2:30:51.879 --> 2:30:53.680 cool you're getting back on tour and doing all that stuff. 2:30:53.800 --> 2:30:57.320 Next to Jack's still talking to got the pot going, 2:30:57.480 --> 2:30:59.400 They're still on it, We're still on I guess yeah. 2:30:59.879 --> 2:31:01.400 I was just kind of telling him I'm hype. I'm 2:31:01.440 --> 2:31:04.600 hyped out for all your success like it fires me up. 2:31:04.920 --> 2:31:08.000 And I will say I'm gonna pull it out too. 2:31:08.800 --> 2:31:11.560 And make sure to read this verbatimas one thing that 2:31:11.720 --> 2:31:15.480 you did for me that helped me a lot when 2:31:15.520 --> 2:31:18.480 my mom passed away, you sent me a nice mestress. 2:31:18.480 --> 2:31:19.880 And the boy's going to do his best not to 2:31:19.920 --> 2:31:22.080 get a little, a little teary at about it. I 2:31:22.120 --> 2:31:26.440 don't remember it, but you reached out to me, and 2:31:27.200 --> 2:31:31.360 what did you say? At some point, we are the eldest, 2:31:31.440 --> 2:31:36.119 we are the leaders. Take a moment, com just breathe 2:31:36.160 --> 2:31:44.680 through this. When our parents goes, when we truly become ourselves. Hey, 2:31:44.680 --> 2:31:45.879 I'm vulnerable with you, guys, because I. 2:31:47.560 --> 2:31:50.640 Until then, there's always a little kid inside uh, inside 2:31:50.680 --> 2:31:52.720 of us somewhere who calls mom or dad when something 2:31:52.800 --> 2:31:56.400 is wrong. This is essential, This is an essential part 2:31:56.440 --> 2:31:58.360 of our self mastery. It's your time. I have no 2:31:58.400 --> 2:32:00.440 doubt you will absolutely body this and become even better. 2:32:00.840 --> 2:32:09.360 Time to make her proud and uh, you know you're 2:32:09.560 --> 2:32:10.840 then it was just I'm here to talk if you 2:32:10.879 --> 2:32:12.520 need it, Send you love your way. 2:32:12.560 --> 2:32:12.800 Brother. 2:32:13.480 --> 2:32:16.560 But that helped me a lot. I appreciate it. We 2:32:16.760 --> 2:32:18.560 just had a moment, Taylor. We just had a moment 2:32:20.000 --> 2:32:22.920 that the big moment but for real that that uh 2:32:23.440 --> 2:32:23.959 wrote me out. 2:32:23.959 --> 2:32:29.680 And I have an incredible support system, Like Taylor came 2:32:29.720 --> 2:32:33.040 to the funeral right away some yeah, because he sent 2:32:33.120 --> 2:32:34.960 me a message that like really resonated with me. 2:32:35.040 --> 2:32:36.480 And it's a message that people. 2:32:36.520 --> 2:32:39.000 What's crazy about it is I got back on the 2:32:39.040 --> 2:32:41.080 pod and I did it from Vegas, like maybe two 2:32:41.120 --> 2:32:43.440 weeks later. We took like a week off and stuff. 2:32:43.480 --> 2:32:48.160 But I felt it would be powerful because obviously death 2:32:48.280 --> 2:32:50.880 is like death is a part of life. So I 2:32:51.000 --> 2:32:53.040 talked my way through it on the podcast because everybody 2:32:53.080 --> 2:32:55.920 was obviously reaching out and doing all this, and uh, 2:32:56.280 --> 2:32:58.440 a lot of people have reached out to me since then. 2:32:58.560 --> 2:33:00.880 I'll check my d ms whether they had somebody that 2:33:01.000 --> 2:33:04.640 passed already, somebody who's just recently passed, And your message 2:33:04.720 --> 2:33:07.120 is one that I share is a constant thing. 2:33:07.200 --> 2:33:08.720 Because that really helped. 2:33:08.520 --> 2:33:11.080 Me kind of like wrap my mind around it just 2:33:11.120 --> 2:33:13.280 a little bit more because you're you're doing all the 2:33:13.280 --> 2:33:14.840 things to wrap your mind around. Like I said, like 2:33:14.959 --> 2:33:17.760 my family, my friends, my best friends, my my circle, 2:33:18.160 --> 2:33:21.200 like everyone rallied you. I just wanted to say that, 2:33:21.440 --> 2:33:23.400 not that it it's something that I felt like needed 2:33:23.440 --> 2:33:27.240 to be said publicly, but I did want to like appreciated. 2:33:27.320 --> 2:33:30.360 I remember, I remember talking, I remember talking about it 2:33:30.560 --> 2:33:33.440 and and I could, you know, I know, I didn't 2:33:33.480 --> 2:33:36.520 know how I have both my parents still, so that 2:33:36.720 --> 2:33:38.760 was coming. You know, I've lost people in my life, 2:33:38.840 --> 2:33:41.880 but I've actually you know, when we talked about reading 2:33:42.040 --> 2:33:44.280 and the things that I'm spend a lot of my 2:33:44.400 --> 2:33:47.200 days on, like death is one of them, and just 2:33:48.879 --> 2:33:52.120 the idea of growing up and what happens in these hardships, 2:33:52.160 --> 2:33:54.600 and I don't know, it just felt, you know, felt 2:33:54.640 --> 2:33:55.200 like the right thing. 2:33:55.280 --> 2:33:57.160 But yeah, I'm happy, man. That's that's great. 2:33:57.360 --> 2:33:59.560 And like you've always been, you know, I know, you're 2:33:59.560 --> 2:34:01.160 like Mike's that and you got all this stuff. But 2:34:01.280 --> 2:34:03.560 the like one of the big reasons like I follow 2:34:03.640 --> 2:34:05.640 and like kind of like look up to you in 2:34:05.720 --> 2:34:07.840 a way is the stuff that you read, stuff that 2:34:07.920 --> 2:34:09.000 you share you know, you. 2:34:09.000 --> 2:34:11.080 Know when I'm like, hey, what are the books? When 2:34:11.120 --> 2:34:12.039 you put me on the Seven. 2:34:11.879 --> 2:34:13.760 Spiritual Laws and stuff like that, but I've just always 2:34:13.760 --> 2:34:15.840 been like, you know, yeah, it's always been something I've 2:34:15.840 --> 2:34:16.280 thought about. 2:34:16.360 --> 2:34:18.920 I appreciate it. What's the Seven Spiritual Laws? That's what 2:34:18.959 --> 2:34:21.720 it's called. Yeah, you gotta read that one. And it's 2:34:21.760 --> 2:34:23.400 so like, even if it's not your thing. 2:34:23.800 --> 2:34:28.160 Like it's right up my all four Agreements type of stuff, 2:34:28.240 --> 2:34:31.320 like I'm big into that for me. Will and I 2:34:31.360 --> 2:34:33.440 talked about this a lot because it's like when you 2:34:33.520 --> 2:34:35.560 grow up, it's like reading what the funk would ever? 2:34:35.560 --> 2:34:38.160 I could watch TV? You know, once you start reading. 2:34:38.760 --> 2:34:39.680 I was starting him on the phone. 2:34:39.720 --> 2:34:41.760 It's like I have a hard time justifying reading something 2:34:41.800 --> 2:34:44.240 that's not like making me better as a human being, too, 2:34:44.640 --> 2:34:47.480 Like to read something that's nonfiction, Like I I'm in 2:34:47.480 --> 2:34:49.320 the Harry Potters right now, I'm watching the movies. I've 2:34:49.360 --> 2:34:51.640 never really seen the movies before, kind of diving into 2:34:51.680 --> 2:34:53.560 that given my resume, who I think, who I think 2:34:53.600 --> 2:34:55.520 is what? And I'm like, if I were to go 2:34:55.600 --> 2:34:58.240 back and read those books, my wasting time that I 2:34:58.280 --> 2:34:59.480 could be working on myself. 2:35:00.120 --> 2:35:02.080 You know what I'm saying totally relate to that. Yeah, 2:35:02.120 --> 2:35:04.959 I don't. I don't read fiction. What I will say though, 2:35:04.959 --> 2:35:05.920 that's why I said nonfiction. 2:35:05.959 --> 2:35:07.960 I meant fiction. What I what I will say is 2:35:08.040 --> 2:35:10.240 like it isn't as a beautiful thing to just change 2:35:10.280 --> 2:35:10.600 your mind. 2:35:11.520 --> 2:35:14.760 Yeah there's power in that. Yeah, absolutely don't be a reader. 2:35:14.840 --> 2:35:16.640 Now, it's just like it's something as simple as we 2:35:16.680 --> 2:35:18.039 talk about in this podcast all time, Like we can 2:35:18.120 --> 2:35:20.520 just try to say whatever because I could change my 2:35:20.560 --> 2:35:22.640 mind at any point. And now that's my opinion, right. 2:35:22.840 --> 2:35:24.360 You know, like a lot of people, if you look 2:35:24.400 --> 2:35:26.760 around in the world, everyone's so attached to the what 2:35:26.920 --> 2:35:30.320 they think is why why does what you think about something? 2:35:30.360 --> 2:35:32.080 And why does everyone need to feel the need that 2:35:32.120 --> 2:35:34.520 everyone else needs to agree? Yeah, you know, like it's 2:35:34.560 --> 2:35:37.840 a weird construct in society. You look around, there's a 2:35:37.840 --> 2:35:41.039 lot of a lot of trouble because everyone's butting heads, 2:35:41.120 --> 2:35:43.840 you know, but like it's coming from an attachment to 2:35:43.920 --> 2:35:46.200 their beliefs. You think about the political system and you 2:35:46.280 --> 2:35:48.160 think about it's all these attachments. 2:35:48.200 --> 2:35:50.119 Oh this is what we think this fuck them, We're 2:35:50.120 --> 2:35:51.480 gonna blow them up, you know what I mean? 2:35:51.600 --> 2:35:53.800 Like, the fuck is that that's crazy to me, you 2:35:53.840 --> 2:35:55.560 know what I mean, Like it's crazy to a lot 2:35:55.600 --> 2:35:59.200 of people, but like, you know, it's like you said 2:35:59.200 --> 2:36:01.520 that about Harry Potter. I'm the same way, like I 2:36:02.120 --> 2:36:03.640 you know, like they'll give me shit like I don't 2:36:03.640 --> 2:36:05.320 really watch a lot of stuff I don't. I don't 2:36:05.560 --> 2:36:09.200 and a little rigidly like we'll say the same thing, 2:36:09.280 --> 2:36:10.760 like I don't want to read it if it's not 2:36:11.480 --> 2:36:17.120 if it's not actually supplementing my life and growing from it. Right, 2:36:17.600 --> 2:36:20.440 But even that's kind of a wrong construct. Someone someone 2:36:20.520 --> 2:36:22.040 said this to me recently. I opened my eyes to 2:36:22.120 --> 2:36:25.039 It's just like no, like, if you read a story, 2:36:25.360 --> 2:36:27.600 it can be really inspiring in a whole way that 2:36:27.680 --> 2:36:30.400 you can't even fucking imagine, you know, like you're using 2:36:30.480 --> 2:36:33.840 your imagination to you can read a fictional story and like, 2:36:34.520 --> 2:36:36.480 you know, like you're using another side of your brain 2:36:36.560 --> 2:36:38.920 to like envision and imagine what the characters look like 2:36:39.080 --> 2:36:41.480 and and who they are and how you know everything. 2:36:41.560 --> 2:36:44.080 It's just it's it changed my mind. I'm going to 2:36:44.160 --> 2:36:46.120 start doing it. But I'm the same way. I haven't 2:36:46.120 --> 2:36:48.160 read any fiction because I'm I don't feel like I 2:36:48.160 --> 2:36:49.200 have enough time, you know. 2:36:49.360 --> 2:36:52.040 It's unique how there's like we've talked about, there's so 2:36:52.080 --> 2:36:53.680 many different ways to live your life. And one of 2:36:53.720 --> 2:36:55.520 those things that people are doing now even making money, 2:36:55.600 --> 2:36:57.680 is like video games. But for me and I think 2:36:57.680 --> 2:36:59.040 will kind of feel this place. So it's like kind 2:36:59.040 --> 2:37:00.240 of like we're kind of treating life. It's like a 2:37:00.280 --> 2:37:02.720 video game now, Like instead of like getting all this 2:37:02.920 --> 2:37:06.000 stuff in this video game, it's like how can we 2:37:06.080 --> 2:37:08.920 grow unfeed our plants on the on then the real 2:37:08.959 --> 2:37:11.480 world essentially, right, but now everything's going with the damn metaverse. 2:37:11.480 --> 2:37:13.000 So I'm like, do I need to start playing video games? 2:37:13.040 --> 2:37:15.960 Like, like, what's the deal. I'll be honest, I will 2:37:16.000 --> 2:37:18.120 not be a subscriber to the metaverse. It. On the 2:37:18.160 --> 2:37:19.520 other way, I'm going to the mountain he gets some 2:37:19.680 --> 2:37:21.720 real estate in the metaverse called the highs Man. Yeah 2:37:21.800 --> 2:37:24.480 you can. I probably will. I probably will. Yeah, only 2:37:24.560 --> 2:37:25.240 Steve's hanging out. 2:37:25.400 --> 2:37:28.080 Yeah, build your ranch out them. 2:37:28.120 --> 2:37:28.600 Yeah, I'll do that. 2:37:28.680 --> 2:37:30.720 But I will not be the guy like puts on 2:37:30.760 --> 2:37:33.160 a headset and like spends his night doing doing that. 2:37:33.600 --> 2:37:34.920 I get caught up in a couple of games here 2:37:34.959 --> 2:37:36.800 and there, but for the most part, it's like, yeah, 2:37:37.120 --> 2:37:39.240 takes away from sleep, takes away from the kids then, 2:37:39.320 --> 2:37:41.120 and it's just like what am I doing here? 2:37:41.440 --> 2:37:43.600 I'm more video game guy. I couldn't disagree with what's 2:37:43.640 --> 2:37:43.880 going on. 2:37:44.040 --> 2:37:45.920 Really, do you think video games? But I've been playing 2:37:45.959 --> 2:37:47.280 in a while. But like when we had our crew, 2:37:47.320 --> 2:37:51.120 we're playing like Rocket League Risk, Like, let me know, 2:37:51.120 --> 2:37:52.720 when you want to get on the rocket, I get it. 2:37:54.200 --> 2:37:59.760 The Chubby Hooper is the doll in there. 2:38:00.360 --> 2:38:05.760 No, I was just Chubby Hooper Hooper forty four up 2:38:05.920 --> 2:38:13.120 forty four. Yeah, hey, whatever, whatever fucking map makes you 2:38:13.200 --> 2:38:14.920 have a good time and enjoy yourself. Like I think 2:38:14.959 --> 2:38:16.640 it's fucking as long as you're not hurting other people, 2:38:16.760 --> 2:38:19.360 like fuck, you know, like video game for him, reading 2:38:19.440 --> 2:38:20.520 for me, somebody else, you know. 2:38:20.720 --> 2:38:22.360 So yeah, but it's also one of those things like 2:38:22.480 --> 2:38:24.760 where if you spend so much time doing something that's 2:38:24.840 --> 2:38:28.119 like not helping you, you end up getting jaded when 2:38:28.120 --> 2:38:29.680 you're older and you see everybody else kind of like 2:38:29.840 --> 2:38:31.480 trying to grow and get better. Now you're mad at 2:38:31.520 --> 2:38:32.080 everyone else. 2:38:31.920 --> 2:38:33.280 Because you didn't take the time to work on yourself. 2:38:33.320 --> 2:38:37.119 Defintely validity to that, right, yeah, you know, definitely validity. 2:38:37.200 --> 2:38:39.760 It's what game you're playing right, Yeah, choose your game, 2:38:40.040 --> 2:38:42.520 constantly evaluate what you're doing in which direction you're going, 2:38:42.600 --> 2:38:45.320 and fucking keep trying right a wrong way of doing it, 2:38:45.400 --> 2:38:47.600 you know what I mean. Like that's true, this freedom 2:38:47.640 --> 2:38:51.199 in that, like I don't know why, it's definitely inspiring. 2:38:51.240 --> 2:38:53.600 I've been inspired by other other great men, you know 2:38:53.640 --> 2:38:53.880 what I mean. 2:38:53.920 --> 2:38:56.240 That's what reading is right or to a certain extent, 2:38:57.600 --> 2:39:00.120 and that that's that's like fruitful for me, you know 2:39:00.160 --> 2:39:00.480 what I mean. 2:39:00.920 --> 2:39:03.720 But everyone everyone, like there is no right or wrong 2:39:03.800 --> 2:39:05.080 way of doing life at all. 2:39:05.200 --> 2:39:08.080 You know that there's definitely universal truths and laws you 2:39:08.080 --> 2:39:10.920 don't want to break, like hurt, harming people and doing 2:39:10.959 --> 2:39:13.800 shit like that. You know, But there's no rhyme, there's 2:39:13.879 --> 2:39:15.640 there's there's there's no rhyme or reason to any of it. 2:39:15.840 --> 2:39:17.520 We all we're all just making it up as we go, 2:39:17.840 --> 2:39:20.320 you know. That's how I approach it, fuck and try 2:39:20.360 --> 2:39:22.039 to share it, you know, and try to help people. 2:39:22.520 --> 2:39:24.120 Like I didn't know I had that impact on you 2:39:24.200 --> 2:39:25.360 with that. I know it was. 2:39:25.680 --> 2:39:27.680 It's just what I was inclined to do, you know. 2:39:28.120 --> 2:39:31.280 But that's also how I approached the podcast. Like, like 2:39:31.360 --> 2:39:33.560 I said, they're not sexy conversations. If you're not into it, 2:39:33.640 --> 2:39:35.520 you're just like, I mean, there's a kind of let's 2:39:35.520 --> 2:39:37.879 not sleep on another saw conversations. No, there are. 2:39:38.040 --> 2:39:40.000 I think I think a conversay're my version. Yeah, I 2:39:40.080 --> 2:39:41.880 was gonna say that. Yeah, but it's not damn Baseerian 2:39:41.920 --> 2:39:42.520 type exactly. 2:39:42.840 --> 2:39:46.040 He's not like, Oh, I could be like I have, 2:39:46.640 --> 2:39:48.760 I could fill up five seasons of podcast episodes of 2:39:48.840 --> 2:39:52.400 crazy stories of partying and celebrities and bullshit of living 2:39:52.440 --> 2:39:55.080 in LA for seven years and touring for ten, you know, 2:39:55.640 --> 2:39:58.200 but like, yeah, he tries to sprinkle that in as 2:39:58.240 --> 2:40:00.560 much as he can on the podcast, but it's just 2:40:00.640 --> 2:40:02.640 not what I'm trying to you know, I'd rather I 2:40:02.680 --> 2:40:04.960 think it's the most powerful thing. It's just like spreading 2:40:05.000 --> 2:40:07.200 a good word, you know, and maybe helping people that 2:40:07.320 --> 2:40:08.119 need it if if they. 2:40:08.120 --> 2:40:08.760 Want it, you know. 2:40:10.160 --> 2:40:12.440 With that man, the philosophies that have stood the test 2:40:12.520 --> 2:40:15.039 of time to your talk, shall we. 2:40:17.640 --> 2:40:17.840 Yeah? 2:40:19.320 --> 2:40:21.720 Women, huh, it's only I mean, you can do whatever 2:40:21.760 --> 2:40:22.640 you want, a new. 2:40:22.560 --> 2:40:25.039 Ball, whole new como. 2:40:28.160 --> 2:40:29.440 I would like to say too that there has not 2:40:29.520 --> 2:40:31.560 been a time roup this entire time, and it's it's 2:40:31.720 --> 2:40:34.720 irked me in the back of my head, not on 2:40:34.800 --> 2:40:35.160 the screen. 2:40:35.320 --> 2:40:38.400 We got a we got a hot cast outcast on here, 2:40:40.680 --> 2:40:43.960 holy ship talent, hey putting work over here. We haven't 2:40:44.000 --> 2:40:45.640 had to look at the scream once either. That's when 2:40:45.640 --> 2:40:47.480 you know it's a banger. I had to give you, 2:40:47.520 --> 2:40:57.760 guys my all. You know, yeah, technical the skis balls 2:40:57.840 --> 2:41:02.920 back come. Well, it's a good ball, the solid ball. 2:41:03.160 --> 2:41:08.320 It's not your ball though, not all good ball, smaller 2:41:08.720 --> 2:41:13.280 small red ball, but it's not. 2:41:14.600 --> 2:41:18.800 No, it'll bounce, not just a bounce, it'll bounce, it 2:41:18.920 --> 2:41:19.200 a roll. 2:41:20.080 --> 2:41:21.360 Yeah, I think it should be harder. 2:41:22.840 --> 2:41:25.840 So I guess if we're looking at Princess Jasmine on 2:41:25.879 --> 2:41:27.600 this thing right now, age is not a factor. 2:41:28.600 --> 2:41:33.920 Yeah, here we go. 2:41:34.400 --> 2:41:38.000 Oh my god, I already know how I'm going thinking 2:41:38.000 --> 2:41:39.600 about Homegirl on the on the bottom half of that. 2:41:39.720 --> 2:41:41.680 We tear him now would be a tier one, Tier two, 2:41:41.760 --> 2:41:46.640 Tier three good one bad one is good one's good. 2:41:46.520 --> 2:41:48.400 Three bad, question three is not bad. 2:41:48.640 --> 2:41:52.640 Taking into account their persona and personalities and stuff, whatever goes. 2:41:52.720 --> 2:41:55.360 I don't know any of them, what I mean, whatever 2:41:55.480 --> 2:41:57.280 your truth is. If you don't know them that well, 2:41:57.360 --> 2:42:00.280 then yeah, then you just go straight off. My tears okay, cool, 2:42:01.080 --> 2:42:04.680 Oh my god, Lola Bunny get out of bounds. Hey, 2:42:04.920 --> 2:42:07.520 Lola was thrown her back. 2:42:08.040 --> 2:42:10.960 She's got something special for being a rabbit. 2:42:11.040 --> 2:42:12.040 Thing that kind of throwst me off. 2:42:12.160 --> 2:42:14.320 Yeah, the whole word being a rabbit is tail in 2:42:14.400 --> 2:42:14.800 the ears. 2:42:15.360 --> 2:42:16.960 Why was not really bothering me right now? 2:42:22.720 --> 2:42:35.080 Five? Oh geez ye, dude, Daphne is so we're just 2:42:35.160 --> 2:42:37.000 going top five. It's not a tier one, two, three, 2:42:37.280 --> 2:42:42.000 Oh yeah, five tiers. Five tiers. 2:42:42.360 --> 2:42:43.000 We're rating one. 2:42:45.720 --> 2:42:49.440 I'm throwing Daphne to the wolves. Okay, hold on, what 2:42:50.240 --> 2:42:52.440 that's how I'm coming favorite. I know it's not my 2:42:52.520 --> 2:42:53.680 it's actually my favorite. Sad on here. 2:42:53.680 --> 2:42:57.400 I don't think Daphne from Scooby Doo I get the merrit. Yeah, 2:42:57.400 --> 2:42:59.000 I would say I get the merit, but I'm not 2:42:59.160 --> 2:43:02.440 thrower out. I think so you got a lot of 2:43:02.440 --> 2:43:04.880 Bunny on there. Scroll up. Not that I'm in the 2:43:04.920 --> 2:43:05.959 beast reality. 2:43:06.400 --> 2:43:06.760 Not really. 2:43:06.959 --> 2:43:13.200 The girl on the bottom with the cleavage, she's hot. 2:43:16.240 --> 2:43:17.080 I'm gonna go out of the gate. 2:43:17.120 --> 2:43:20.320 My truth is Jessica Rabbit number one. Yeah, I just 2:43:20.480 --> 2:43:22.800 I mean, it's it's also like a I think it's 2:43:22.879 --> 2:43:25.760 a it's a picture selection as well. Like, yeah, yeah, 2:43:25.840 --> 2:43:26.280 that picture. 2:43:26.320 --> 2:43:29.320 I think she's represented very well here. You could have 2:43:29.320 --> 2:43:30.800 put her in you could have put her in a 2:43:30.879 --> 2:43:34.119 turtle neck. Yeah right, So who's go she go? She's 2:43:34.120 --> 2:43:41.040 from kim possible. I might have to go her her 2:43:41.160 --> 2:43:41.880 below Dashne. 2:43:42.959 --> 2:43:44.440 You don't like you like her lesson death? 2:43:44.480 --> 2:43:45.840 So you like Daphney the most? 2:43:47.480 --> 2:43:47.920 Okay? 2:43:48.040 --> 2:43:50.440 Yeah, so let's get this in order here. What are 2:43:50.480 --> 2:43:52.920 we doing if you're gonna do your your your tears? 2:43:52.959 --> 2:43:56.879 So Tier one for me here one is Jessica Rabbit. Right, 2:43:58.360 --> 2:44:04.880 let's go down here. I mean, don't judge me, but 2:44:04.959 --> 2:44:11.280 I'm going Lola Bunny too, has a tail. Yeah, it's 2:44:11.320 --> 2:44:15.680 definitely a fucking bunny, but she's hot. I'm going a 2:44:15.720 --> 2:44:17.920 wholesome vibe in there. Yeah, I'm going. I'm going and 2:44:18.120 --> 2:44:21.560 Cass and then she's you know, it just feels like 2:44:21.600 --> 2:44:23.360 it's a classic, a classic milflok. 2:44:25.840 --> 2:44:29.880 I think I'm going Jasmine for she Go five and 2:44:30.879 --> 2:44:36.560 Daphanie's Daphne's don will mention that's tough, you guys. 2:44:37.760 --> 2:44:41.240 I'm going Lola Bunny one, oh god, and she can 2:44:41.320 --> 2:44:42.600 hoop Lola bunnies one. 2:44:43.240 --> 2:44:44.720 Why are you trying to produce athlete bunnies. 2:44:44.760 --> 2:44:46.920 I'm trying to get heavily bunnies. I'm going Lola Bunny. 2:44:47.879 --> 2:44:51.400 I'm going, Uh, I'm going Jasmine, I'm going for him. 2:44:52.280 --> 2:44:56.959 I'm going Jasmine number two, I'm going she goes number three. 2:44:58.080 --> 2:45:01.879 I like a little edge on me. Four Jessica Rabbit 2:45:03.600 --> 2:45:05.000 and five Wire going at Cass. 2:45:05.720 --> 2:45:06.760 So Daphne's out again? 2:45:07.040 --> 2:45:10.680 Yeah, da you know not my style? Yeah she can. 2:45:10.840 --> 2:45:13.000 You know. I feel like Daphne is someone I might 2:45:13.040 --> 2:45:14.160 want to start a life with. Uh. 2:45:14.600 --> 2:45:17.080 Yeah, she's got She's got her life with the well 2:45:17.120 --> 2:45:19.120 she does cruise around with two other men, another woman 2:45:19.160 --> 2:45:19.600 and a dog. 2:45:19.959 --> 2:45:23.600 So chasing ghosts, chasing ghosts, problems, a wholesome vibemins. I 2:45:23.640 --> 2:45:25.080 feel like she's a natural problem solver. 2:45:25.240 --> 2:45:26.959 So and Cass is that wholesome vibe? 2:45:27.280 --> 2:45:28.840 Yeah, that's what That's where I get at. That's what 2:45:28.920 --> 2:45:29.160 you get. 2:45:29.240 --> 2:45:32.720 I think you're married, Yeah, you're married, Cass. Okay, what 2:45:32.840 --> 2:45:33.480 about you boys? 2:45:33.959 --> 2:45:38.720 Man, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Jasmine. I like 2:45:38.800 --> 2:45:43.480 that exotic look Cass from b movie one two. 2:45:44.280 --> 2:45:45.760 And then I think I'm gonna go to the top. 2:45:47.120 --> 2:45:52.800 Jessica Rabbit. Three, Uh, Lola Bunny, four. Now my my 2:45:52.920 --> 2:45:54.759 three and four they can be interchanging. 2:45:54.440 --> 2:45:55.600 Flip and flip flop. 2:45:55.640 --> 2:45:55.960 I get it. 2:45:56.480 --> 2:46:01.240 Five is Daphne, and I'm not even gonna put she 2:46:01.480 --> 2:46:02.000 on the equation. 2:46:02.120 --> 2:46:03.880 I'm gonna throw in a special shout out to my 2:46:03.920 --> 2:46:05.320 girl Patty Mayonnaise. 2:46:08.600 --> 2:46:11.959 Got no curves. Yeah, but when I was a young 2:46:12.040 --> 2:46:14.800 gun dude, when I was when I was young boy, Yeah, 2:46:15.040 --> 2:46:19.240 Patty manse at it all. Damn Petty Man. No free shoutouts, 2:46:19.560 --> 2:46:20.680 free shadows. 2:46:21.959 --> 2:46:22.119 Uh. 2:46:22.440 --> 2:46:24.120 Scroll down for me real quick, let me see everybody 2:46:24.280 --> 2:46:24.879 stay right there. 2:46:25.760 --> 2:46:30.600 Uh, I don't know. For some for whatever reason, I 2:46:30.640 --> 2:46:32.720 feel like Aunt caskta be my number one because she 2:46:32.800 --> 2:46:33.800 looks the most human. 2:46:36.640 --> 2:46:39.560 There's a reason the mommy Probably I got Jasmine at two. 2:46:40.160 --> 2:46:43.880 Scroll down for me. What do you guys say like that? 2:46:44.600 --> 2:46:45.800 Scroll down for me for me? 2:46:45.959 --> 2:46:50.400 Go down for Joe, Lulla Bunny at three, which I 2:46:50.480 --> 2:46:53.720 feel like Lula Bunny is now taking two and Jasmine's 2:46:53.720 --> 2:46:56.200 at three. For me, I was it was a quick change. Four, 2:46:56.240 --> 2:47:00.560 I'm going Daphne go scroll the top for me. Five, 2:47:00.600 --> 2:47:03.000 I'm going she go and just rabbits out. 2:47:04.440 --> 2:47:07.200 You don't like the red. Here's the deal. 2:47:07.560 --> 2:47:11.040 If I'm hearing these women, I'm not just thinking about 2:47:11.240 --> 2:47:13.199 one night. And if I'm thinking about one night in general, 2:47:13.280 --> 2:47:15.720 she still might be out because why she's trying way 2:47:15.760 --> 2:47:18.800 too hard. She's she's not only got the cleavage going, 2:47:18.879 --> 2:47:21.520 but she's got the side side tit as well. And 2:47:21.640 --> 2:47:22.720 I don't like her photo. 2:47:23.240 --> 2:47:23.840 I don't like it. 2:47:24.879 --> 2:47:25.680 Just it's not for me. 2:47:26.120 --> 2:47:26.920 It's just not for me. 2:47:27.080 --> 2:47:30.040 I agree, thank you, I agree too much for me. 2:47:30.160 --> 2:47:30.920 She's trying too hard. 2:47:32.080 --> 2:47:35.120 You know, she's always leading on that damn rabbit. I 2:47:35.160 --> 2:47:37.080 don't want a life with her, that's for damn fairy, 2:47:37.760 --> 2:47:38.080 but I do. 2:47:38.360 --> 2:47:39.920 That's Los Angeles. You want to take it for a 2:47:40.000 --> 2:47:46.080 spin when I look at so write a write a 2:47:46.080 --> 2:47:48.520 few songs about her. Yeah, I just feel like she's 2:47:48.560 --> 2:47:51.080 been taking for so many spins. Yea argue believe what 2:47:51.080 --> 2:47:51.680 I'm saying. 2:47:52.360 --> 2:47:56.400 Allegedly, allegedly, but you never know. I'll tell you what 2:47:56.480 --> 2:47:58.160 if of all these women though, if I was single 2:47:58.200 --> 2:47:59.480 and she and she came into the bar and came 2:47:59.520 --> 2:47:59.840 on to me. 2:48:00.040 --> 2:48:03.280 It's yeah, I'm probably not leaving with I'm probably not 2:48:03.400 --> 2:48:05.600 leaving with the bunny, but like we're not gonna. 2:48:05.440 --> 2:48:06.880 Leave with the bunny because I think people will judge. 2:48:06.879 --> 2:48:07.560 Guys are gonna see me. 2:48:07.959 --> 2:48:09.360 I don't want to go park Me and Lula the 2:48:09.360 --> 2:48:13.920 Bunny getting a bucket together in the bushes in the bushes, since. 2:48:13.760 --> 2:48:16.160 You don't have a pot about all of your you know, 2:48:16.879 --> 2:48:20.080 legendary tales, legedly, could there be a tail you share 2:48:20.120 --> 2:48:21.760 on the bus For a little bit of locker room talk? 2:48:24.400 --> 2:48:25.120 Which one should he tell? 2:48:25.200 --> 2:48:25.360 John? 2:48:25.440 --> 2:48:31.680 Look at how excited the water bottle story? And this 2:48:31.760 --> 2:48:34.400 is our official locker room talk. This is locker room talk. 2:48:34.680 --> 2:48:35.360 Right, I'll do the talk. 2:48:35.400 --> 2:48:38.000 I'll do it for you guys. Let's go there we go. 2:48:38.120 --> 2:48:40.320 And the fact of the matter is I'm not famous 2:48:40.400 --> 2:48:42.440 enough where people gonna go find this two hours and 2:48:42.520 --> 2:48:45.480 twenty minutes in and be like this, So. 2:48:45.600 --> 2:48:47.000 You shows have to be famous. 2:48:48.760 --> 2:48:49.200 Hats for this. 2:48:49.800 --> 2:48:51.600 I think I've really found a home with this one. 2:48:51.640 --> 2:48:53.720 I think I found out how I like this one. 2:48:54.280 --> 2:48:56.160 It looks like home. It goes with the pink right here, 2:48:56.240 --> 2:48:56.920 So I'm happy. 2:48:57.120 --> 2:49:02.360 Yeah, all right, So last time we're on tour, it's 2:49:02.440 --> 2:49:03.680 only right we tell a tour story. 2:49:06.640 --> 2:49:08.320 It's like almost four years ago now. 2:49:08.760 --> 2:49:12.520 Uh, you know, there's a tour bus, there's the bunks 2:49:12.800 --> 2:49:16.640 and then there's the back area, which I trans it's 2:49:16.760 --> 2:49:20.120 for me. It's a it's a bed, a bedroom. So 2:49:20.879 --> 2:49:25.760 you know, back there with a few gals simultaneously. Okay, 2:49:26.800 --> 2:49:30.760 uh in three two okay, Yeah, we're. 2:49:30.640 --> 2:49:33.960 In Middle America somewhere, so you can just use your imagination. 2:49:34.240 --> 2:49:37.960 In Michigan, Michigan. Is there a town in Michigan. We're 2:49:37.959 --> 2:49:38.600 talking about Detroit. 2:49:42.879 --> 2:49:46.040 I don't even know, somewhere somewhere in the I think 2:49:46.080 --> 2:49:50.520 it might have been Michigan. Two fine gals, you know, 2:49:51.560 --> 2:49:54.000 I had a good rapport of them. Uh, they enjoyed 2:49:54.040 --> 2:50:00.240 the show, so so making it onto the bus and yeah, 2:50:00.240 --> 2:50:02.840 you know, we engage and have a good time. Uh 2:50:03.280 --> 2:50:06.040 back there, it's one of those nights. Is this a 2:50:06.080 --> 2:50:06.640 summer tour? 2:50:08.840 --> 2:50:11.320 But he's still sweating, but he's still swat I was 2:50:11.360 --> 2:50:11.680 in there. 2:50:11.600 --> 2:50:13.720 For three hours. I mean, when you get two good 2:50:13.760 --> 2:50:15.360 ones and they got a good rapport with each other. 2:50:16.360 --> 2:50:17.920 I'm trying to be present there and just make the 2:50:17.959 --> 2:50:19.480 most of it, you know what I mean. I'm in 2:50:19.560 --> 2:50:21.720 and out break. The bus is leaving in like a 2:50:21.800 --> 2:50:23.760 few hours. I'm trying to you know what I mean. 2:50:23.959 --> 2:50:28.000 Yeah, I think we did. Wow. I used to be 2:50:28.120 --> 2:50:29.960 like a different guy, you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, 2:50:30.040 --> 2:50:33.600 it was unhinged. There's a lot of rage at. 2:50:35.760 --> 2:50:38.200 So yeah, so you know, I think, I think we're 2:50:38.200 --> 2:50:42.120 a past bus call and I'm just having a blast 2:50:42.160 --> 2:50:45.080 with them, and it's and it's an extended period of. 2:50:45.080 --> 2:50:46.760 Time, multiple rounds. 2:50:48.040 --> 2:50:50.480 In between where we're like acting like a couple, like 2:50:50.520 --> 2:50:53.840 a conglomerate, like us three, Like we're I'm laying down, 2:50:53.920 --> 2:50:57.199 they're laying one under each arm. We're talking, we're sharing stories. 2:50:57.879 --> 2:50:59.880 I'm learning about them, they're learning about me. Those types 2:50:59.879 --> 2:51:05.119 of things. Yeah, but yeah, multiple multiple sessions. I keep 2:51:05.240 --> 2:51:08.920 going up I'm doused in sweat, I'm working hard. Yeah, 2:51:09.640 --> 2:51:11.160 Like I'm more sweaty than I was when I got 2:51:11.200 --> 2:51:14.240 off stage. This is this was This was my show 2:51:14.280 --> 2:51:16.000 more or less for me. It was my passions through 2:51:16.040 --> 2:51:18.680 the roof. And I keep going back up there, and 2:51:18.760 --> 2:51:21.240 these guys suck down waters because everyone's getting drunk and 2:51:21.800 --> 2:51:23.960 the waters are gone and we get tons of waters 2:51:23.959 --> 2:51:24.720 from the venue every night. 2:51:24.720 --> 2:51:29.520 They're gone, and my mouth's parched, like really really parched, you. 2:51:29.520 --> 2:51:32.880 Know what I mean. So I go back there. I'm like, fuck, 2:51:32.920 --> 2:51:34.440 it's gotta be what you know, this is like halfway 2:51:34.480 --> 2:51:36.199 too too. I'm like, this's gotta be water. Everyone's asking 2:51:36.240 --> 2:51:38.160 for water. They're asking for water. I'm asking for water. 2:51:38.200 --> 2:51:42.360 Everyone wants the water. So so I'm so I'm fucking searching. 2:51:42.440 --> 2:51:44.000 I'm like in there, it's dark, you know what I mean, 2:51:44.080 --> 2:51:47.199 like fairly dark. I'm searching each under. I find a bottle. 2:51:48.520 --> 2:51:51.800 I found a bottle. I'm like, jackpot felt great, you 2:51:51.840 --> 2:51:53.880 know what I mean. I was ready for one more round, 2:51:53.920 --> 2:51:58.879 you know what I mean, unhydrated, gather ourselves and uh yeah, 2:51:59.000 --> 2:52:02.320 you know, I was a gentleman, so I I let 2:52:02.360 --> 2:52:06.640 them drink it first, and uh they both take a 2:52:06.720 --> 2:52:09.560 swig and they passed to me and they kind of 2:52:09.600 --> 2:52:12.880 have like this weird reaction and just like I don't know, 2:52:13.040 --> 2:52:15.280 like everyone's you know, your mouse parts, like your taste 2:52:15.320 --> 2:52:17.039 is a little off, so you're like, I've been drinking 2:52:17.040 --> 2:52:17.880 all night? Is my is my? 2:52:18.280 --> 2:52:19.360 Is my palette? Weird right now? 2:52:19.360 --> 2:52:19.680 I don't know. 2:52:19.920 --> 2:52:22.000 Yeah, I take it and I just slug it. 2:52:22.480 --> 2:52:25.200 The whole thing, well I slug like I slug like yeah, 2:52:25.320 --> 2:52:27.560 like two or three it was more or less filled 2:52:27.600 --> 2:52:29.520 to the top, so like, yeah, like at least half 2:52:29.560 --> 2:52:32.279 of it and about. 2:52:32.120 --> 2:52:35.600 Three gulpes in. Oh no, I realized I was drinking 2:52:35.640 --> 2:52:43.520 my own pea, and so that stop you from around. 2:52:43.720 --> 2:52:49.080 So so you guys will respect this. I couldn't. I 2:52:49.120 --> 2:52:53.720 couldn't let them know. I couldn't know because they drank 2:52:53.760 --> 2:52:57.120 it first, and they were they didn't overreact. They're just 2:52:57.200 --> 2:52:57.520 I don't know. 2:52:57.640 --> 2:52:59.600 I mean, they're from Michigan, they're they're hard nos there 2:52:59.680 --> 2:53:03.160 hard no, Yeah, Midwest people, the blue collar group. Yeah, 2:53:05.160 --> 2:53:06.440 and yeah. 2:53:06.640 --> 2:53:09.640 I realized it, and I made a split decision to 2:53:09.760 --> 2:53:12.480 just act like nothing was wrong. Really, And. 2:53:13.959 --> 2:53:16.000 I can't remember if we got after one more time 2:53:16.080 --> 2:53:16.240 or not. 2:53:16.480 --> 2:53:16.760 I don't. 2:53:16.760 --> 2:53:18.640 I don't think so, because I think you just get 2:53:18.760 --> 2:53:20.160 more deadured when you drink and be. 2:53:20.200 --> 2:53:22.920 I don't know, I'd never done it, but I knew 2:53:22.920 --> 2:53:25.160 what was happening, and then I right away I fast 2:53:25.200 --> 2:53:28.080 forward to the morning when I when it was like 2:53:29.280 --> 2:53:31.120 I had peed in a bottle. I had peed in 2:53:31.160 --> 2:53:32.920 a bottle because someone was in there and there was 2:53:33.000 --> 2:53:34.480 like I was in a rush and I had like 2:53:34.520 --> 2:53:36.600 peed in a water bottle, and it just I don't know. 2:53:36.879 --> 2:53:38.560 That's that's what happened, Like that's of ship that happens 2:53:38.600 --> 2:53:39.119 on a tour bus. 2:53:39.600 --> 2:53:42.720 But if I had drank it first, I would have 2:53:42.760 --> 2:53:44.680 been like spin it out and been like fuck, you 2:53:44.720 --> 2:53:45.080 know what I mean? 2:53:45.600 --> 2:53:47.600 Cool? But I didn't want to ruin the vibe. 2:53:47.640 --> 2:53:49.360 We had such a great rapport back there. 2:53:49.879 --> 2:53:50.160 Yeah, I. 2:53:52.879 --> 2:53:58.480 Actually got another one. If I got another water bottlebody 2:53:58.520 --> 2:53:58.959 find another. 2:53:59.560 --> 2:54:01.520 Yeah. So I mean that was that was really more 2:54:01.600 --> 2:54:03.280 or less the story, right? Am I missing anything else? 2:54:04.800 --> 2:54:06.080 They drank O P Then you. 2:54:06.120 --> 2:54:07.800 Got back in the saddle from one of the back 2:54:07.879 --> 2:54:10.800 and yeah, were you guys? I got back in making 2:54:10.840 --> 2:54:11.320 out after. 2:54:11.840 --> 2:54:14.119 I don't think there was any there's any Maybe they were, 2:54:14.160 --> 2:54:15.040 I don't know. I don't know. 2:54:15.959 --> 2:54:22.840 But they went on their way fulfilled and all type 2:54:22.879 --> 2:54:25.640 of mic all types of fluid. They felt fulfilled, and 2:54:25.959 --> 2:54:28.960 I felt fulfilled. I went out and told the guys immediately, 2:54:30.560 --> 2:54:31.880 and you know, they went on their merry way, and 2:54:31.959 --> 2:54:33.960 I've never seen them again or spoken to them again. 2:54:34.000 --> 2:54:36.840 But were nothing the best? Huh? They didn't DM you 2:54:36.920 --> 2:54:39.160 or nothing? No, They're like, hey, did we drink your 2:54:39.200 --> 2:54:40.080 pedia last week? 2:54:40.120 --> 2:54:41.880 I've been thinking, I've been thinking about see this. 2:54:42.640 --> 2:54:43.360 I knew something was. 2:54:43.360 --> 2:54:47.560 Worried about that fucking it didn't taste like a buffinay keep. 2:54:47.720 --> 2:54:53.040 Keep some contact with every girl that now standing you 2:54:53.080 --> 2:54:56.160 did talk about the stories. I'm literally not uh yeah, 2:54:56.200 --> 2:54:58.160 I'm just that was a great That was a great man. 2:54:58.280 --> 2:54:59.760 I was like one of the only ones that was 2:54:59.800 --> 2:55:02.000 like something like like that. You know a lot of 2:55:02.040 --> 2:55:05.160 it's this fucking risky ship like that, you know, but 2:55:05.440 --> 2:55:08.760 it was. It was hilarious, and I I actually, for whatever, 2:55:08.959 --> 2:55:10.840 it was just so fucking funny that like I didn't 2:55:10.920 --> 2:55:13.280 I didn't even really get I didn't have a chance to, 2:55:14.040 --> 2:55:15.440 but I didn't really even get that grossed out. 2:55:15.440 --> 2:55:17.280 I don't know what that says about me. It wasn't 2:55:17.320 --> 2:55:18.720 that in the moment, Like. 2:55:18.760 --> 2:55:20.600 I was just like, like, you know what I mean, 2:55:20.640 --> 2:55:22.360 other fun you know what you're supposed to do after 2:55:23.600 --> 2:55:25.000 I would have done exactly what you did. 2:55:25.080 --> 2:55:27.120 Yeah, I think ye made the right move. I made 2:55:27.160 --> 2:55:28.680 the right move there everyone. 2:55:29.240 --> 2:55:31.400 No one was harmed in that film. 2:55:31.520 --> 2:55:33.520 And at the same time, you know. 2:55:33.600 --> 2:55:35.800 Embarios, You're like, is there wagon get away with? This 2:55:36.200 --> 2:55:38.040 answer was quickly yes, and you went that. 2:55:38.160 --> 2:55:39.680 I don't think I could have said anything. That was 2:55:39.680 --> 2:55:41.360 the way to keep your head swipple. Yeah, it was 2:55:41.360 --> 2:55:41.720 a big time. 2:55:41.760 --> 2:55:43.200 Thank you guys. It means a lot. You know it 2:55:43.280 --> 2:55:44.240 means a lot you guys. 2:55:44.360 --> 2:55:45.080 It was a heady play. 2:55:45.760 --> 2:55:47.240 It was quart awareness, you know what I mean. I 2:55:47.280 --> 2:55:49.760 had to make a play, made the play. That's all 2:55:49.760 --> 2:55:52.480 I had at the moment. But yeah, I mean, fuck Torah. 2:55:52.800 --> 2:55:56.880 Living on a bus with twelve dudes, busting with the boys, guys, 2:55:56.920 --> 2:55:58.200 get it a little bit. You know, like you're in 2:55:58.240 --> 2:56:00.080 a small space for extended periods of time with a 2:56:00.120 --> 2:56:04.200 lot of guys. So you know, there's a there's a 2:56:04.360 --> 2:56:07.800 grit that that you earn. There's a grit there's like. 2:56:08.120 --> 2:56:11.200 A tough skin you earned right with the amount of 2:56:11.240 --> 2:56:12.920 time we spent. Don't come on the bus without a 2:56:13.000 --> 2:56:13.400 lunch bail. 2:56:13.560 --> 2:56:15.280 Yeah, he's just gotta be ready to put your hard 2:56:15.320 --> 2:56:16.840 hat on and figure it out, you know what I mean. 2:56:17.080 --> 2:56:19.720 And that's what we do. So that's standing times. You 2:56:19.760 --> 2:56:22.040 got a drinker on pea more all of the story. 2:56:22.800 --> 2:56:24.560 Well, we appreciate you for coming on anything we got 2:56:24.680 --> 2:56:27.359 to get out of. Anything else about Skeezy, Well. 2:56:27.400 --> 2:56:29.600 Skeez We just dropped his first record, did you hear it? 2:56:29.800 --> 2:56:31.119 I love my homies. I mean you're busy. 2:56:31.480 --> 2:56:33.600 I've seen on Yeah, media check it out. 2:56:33.600 --> 2:56:34.880 I think you guys will love the song because he 2:56:35.200 --> 2:56:37.600 just put out his first album song with us. 2:56:37.600 --> 2:56:38.440 I'm featured on it. 2:56:38.560 --> 2:56:40.640 Okay, cool, he has, he has, but we're working on 2:56:40.680 --> 2:56:44.039 a bunch of records for him and uh yeah, we're 2:56:44.040 --> 2:56:46.560 gonna start. We're gonna start kind of sending it for 2:56:46.680 --> 2:56:47.280 him pretty much. 2:56:47.320 --> 2:56:50.200 Let's get that album, that album, the Xbox Handle over time, 2:56:50.840 --> 2:56:53.840 Chubby Hooper forty four, Chubby Hooper forty Me know, if. 2:56:53.760 --> 2:56:55.400 You need me in Rocket League or we're been a 2:56:55.440 --> 2:56:57.080 lot of guys hollering us you to play after. 2:56:57.000 --> 2:56:58.520 Well, we could get him in the Rocket League. You 2:56:58.560 --> 2:57:01.160 guys got a great fan base. Yeah, we had a squad, dude, 2:57:01.200 --> 2:57:04.200 the two ones really ripping. Great culture being being built 2:57:04.320 --> 2:57:07.000 in a short period of time. Yeah, if relatively speaking, 2:57:07.040 --> 2:57:08.400 has been very short. Tough to do. 2:57:08.680 --> 2:57:11.080 I hope you guys know that, Like it's not. I mean, 2:57:11.080 --> 2:57:13.400 I know you guys do, but people say that you 2:57:13.520 --> 2:57:17.160 kind of like I see so many guys who have 2:57:17.680 --> 2:57:20.160 are great guys and cool and that we got money 2:57:20.200 --> 2:57:22.480 in a good setup and no X Y and Z 2:57:22.600 --> 2:57:23.760 and all the famous people in. 2:57:23.800 --> 2:57:25.680 Front, and they can't get it going. Like people have 2:57:25.800 --> 2:57:27.800 to care about you, you know what I mean. It's 2:57:27.840 --> 2:57:28.200 tough to do. 2:57:28.360 --> 2:57:30.080 So we tell we tell our fans all the time, 2:57:30.120 --> 2:57:32.080 like the people, we wouldn't be any this would be 2:57:32.160 --> 2:57:33.360 done if no one watched, and. 2:57:33.400 --> 2:57:35.640 So we appreciate it literally right like you just wouldn't 2:57:35.640 --> 2:57:37.640 be doing it, Like it's like there'd be no point. 2:57:38.200 --> 2:57:40.959 Will would be on the corner right now, just looking. 2:57:40.760 --> 2:57:43.920 For a job looking up. I'd be training three times, 2:57:44.240 --> 2:57:44.760 trying to get back. 2:57:46.040 --> 2:57:48.160 You know, you gotta well, you gotta spout to students 2:57:48.200 --> 2:57:50.480 and ranch where whenever, wherever we are whenever. 2:57:50.560 --> 2:57:53.880 If it all goes bad with the family coming over 2:57:53.920 --> 2:57:57.720 to the ranch, I'll come to. I'll come to. You're welcome, 2:57:58.760 --> 2:58:00.680 You're welcome. We need that. 2:58:02.200 --> 2:58:04.000 Yeah, well, I listen, I might want to hang out though, 2:58:04.040 --> 2:58:06.680 you know any time, anytime, sir, we could always end 2:58:06.760 --> 2:58:08.840 up in the same city, just traveling around because you're 2:58:08.920 --> 2:58:09.480 no mad man. 2:58:09.760 --> 2:58:13.720 What happens, sir, And I'm behind you bro a lot. 2:58:14.000 --> 2:58:15.959 You know you're a good dude. But also the Nebraska tie, 2:58:16.080 --> 2:58:19.600 like go big Leg. We need needs your help. 2:58:19.680 --> 2:58:21.040 But I mean, this is a great opportunity to have 2:58:21.160 --> 2:58:23.480 him on this, but it needs your help, just putting 2:58:23.520 --> 2:58:26.760 the tier ones on. Yes, boys, are you guys. 2:58:27.240 --> 2:58:28.600 You guys, let me sit in man. When we do 2:58:28.720 --> 2:58:31.800 our ads on Monday, we'll make sure to plug. 2:58:31.680 --> 2:58:34.160 Them s R. Let's definitely do busting with the boys. 2:58:34.280 --> 2:58:35.800 I think this is a guy. 2:58:35.920 --> 2:58:38.960 He's only as the dude who is my creative for 2:58:39.120 --> 2:58:41.320 all my stuff. So this is all his designs and 2:58:41.920 --> 2:58:43.760 and it's really doing really well here. If you guys 2:58:43.800 --> 2:58:45.320 go out of Nashville, like you guys don't really go 2:58:45.400 --> 2:58:45.640 out and. 2:58:45.640 --> 2:58:48.560 Bars and ship, dude not as much anymore. You can 2:58:48.640 --> 2:58:51.520 go anywhere seeing im in Nashville, especially doing really well. 2:58:51.680 --> 2:58:53.000 But this will obviously help. 2:58:53.040 --> 2:58:54.680 But I'd love to do it. I texted you about it, 2:58:54.760 --> 2:58:57.440 doing a busting a busting collab, could say busting with 2:58:57.520 --> 2:58:59.320 the boys in that in that cursive. That's the kind 2:58:59.360 --> 2:59:01.200 of our staple fun on the side, I don't know 2:59:01.240 --> 2:59:02.600 all that him creatively directed. 2:59:02.800 --> 2:59:04.520 May if you want to do it, dude, we can 2:59:04.560 --> 2:59:07.760 do it, yeah for sure. And then how are the 2:59:07.840 --> 2:59:09.840 chuck buds good? Have they been going well? 2:59:09.959 --> 2:59:10.440 I think so? 2:59:10.640 --> 2:59:12.680 I mean, you talk with Alison, A lot of that 2:59:12.680 --> 2:59:15.080 stuff is kind of like you know, ye, Alison says 2:59:15.080 --> 2:59:15.960 we're gonna do more than you know. 2:59:15.959 --> 2:59:18.080 Who's become a buddy of mine. Just through that as 2:59:18.120 --> 2:59:21.640 Michael Chandler really bro's the man. 2:59:22.000 --> 2:59:22.920 He can chuck a beer too. 2:59:23.600 --> 2:59:26.760 The chug budds we started talking he bodied doing in 2:59:26.840 --> 2:59:29.280 a chrug race. I'm not the best, But what are 2:59:29.320 --> 2:59:32.600 you talking about in the chuck bud game? But we're not. 2:59:33.520 --> 2:59:36.959 We're not talking about never really what is it about 2:59:36.959 --> 2:59:39.480 the chuck? But you just can't get the open? Can 2:59:39.520 --> 2:59:40.800 you see it? It's on tape that I've lost a 2:59:40.840 --> 2:59:42.959 couple of matches. So I just think bounce it back 2:59:42.959 --> 2:59:44.720 from you're in your own head about it a little bit. Yeah, 2:59:44.879 --> 2:59:46.240 I got to open the third a little bit more. 2:59:46.280 --> 2:59:48.160 I gotta get a little I'll take you behind the 2:59:48.440 --> 2:59:50.960 behind the bus and we'll go go back behind with 2:59:51.040 --> 2:59:57.080 you many funny dude. 2:59:57.280 --> 3:00:00.680 It's tough boys. Yeah. But on the chuck thing, it's 3:00:00.800 --> 3:00:02.800 I don't chug that fast, just in general. 3:00:03.080 --> 3:00:04.600 When he says that we get we have this little 3:00:04.600 --> 3:00:07.560 bit where I'm housing water and I just go slow 3:00:07.640 --> 3:00:08.920 and they just hype me up all around. 3:00:08.920 --> 3:00:09.520 Then I'm crushing. 3:00:09.680 --> 3:00:12.240 I've seen that. I've seen that. The sarcasm. You got 3:00:12.280 --> 3:00:14.840 a good sarcasm thing going on. Just keep playing it on, 3:00:15.280 --> 3:00:17.000 Gotta keep planning it on. 3:00:18.320 --> 3:00:20.240 I love it all right, boy, should I get the photos?