Speaker 1: Are we rolling ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Busting with
Speaker 1: the Boys Episode one six.
Speaker 2: Kind of fucking not so many as in one hundred
Speaker 2: and forty seven, but we've done a lot these last
Speaker 2: couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been so many. What the fuck is even going?
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Speaker 2: The better you sit up, even more upright, you get
Speaker 2: even closer. You started to see the glistening of the
Speaker 2: sweat car. Yeah, I was hurting, and I'm thinking of
Speaker 2: myself too, Like you, you've the last few times like
Speaker 2: you've done a great job. You've like read them before,
Speaker 2: so then you just knock it out of the plor
Speaker 2: that one you went straight back to the always say
Speaker 2: no looking, no nothing, just look right at the uh.
Speaker 3: Look right at the screen and try to read it
Speaker 3: all super tough.
Speaker 4: That was fun.
Speaker 3: It was very difficult.
Speaker 1: But I still believe in the Chevy Soeverrado, and I
Speaker 1: knew the whole time I was reading it. I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: might look like an absolute fucking idiot right now. At
Speaker 1: least you're doing God's work with the Chevy Silverrado.
Speaker 2: I think people are gonna enjoy it. I think people
Speaker 2: enjoy stuff like that more. That's me personally, Like if
Speaker 2: I'm listening, I'm giggling the whole time. Everyone likes making
Speaker 2: fun of an idiot. You know what I'm saying here,
Speaker 2: I am soaked me in.
Speaker 3: The draft day. Draft day is coming up.
Speaker 1: I know it's I'm stoked about it since it's Wednesday
Speaker 1: that everybody's listening.
Speaker 3: The draft day.
Speaker 1: Draft days Thursday, right, Jeff, is a week from Thursday.
Speaker 1: Oh so we still got a week here, We still
Speaker 1: got a week this week.
Speaker 4: No, it's uh this way, that's the mind.
Speaker 3: I'm like, carry the one, bro, God fucking energy is
Speaker 3: a little different in here right now. Well you say
Speaker 3: that just because I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's sause I'm tired and I'm quitting Zen's
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, why why are you quitting?
Speaker 4: Dude?
Speaker 3: No joke, I was.
Speaker 1: It was yesterday, it was Easter, and I'm I put
Speaker 1: my daughter to sleep, and I had four fucking two
Speaker 1: top deck, two bottom deck.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I gotta sit down. I'm like I
Speaker 3: gotta go do this.
Speaker 4: And I was like I don't.
Speaker 1: Really want to, and I'm like, fuck this, dude, Why
Speaker 1: am I doing this? Ship and went over trash can
Speaker 1: dumped him out and I was like, I'm fucking dumb
Speaker 1: with zins, flushed the toilet, take the can, throw it outside,
Speaker 1: then went and got it and threw it in the
Speaker 1: trash can, and then like three hours went by, gonna
Speaker 1: let let's unpackt it. That seems like a bit of
Speaker 1: a deal. You just snapped all of a sudden, All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I get dude, I did. I did
Speaker 1: that with chew I did that with pretty much just
Speaker 1: chew proof. And then the four other times I quit
Speaker 1: Zens too.
Speaker 4: Is uh.
Speaker 1: I've always like it's like I'm doing it, everything's all good.
Speaker 1: And I was a sudden like why am I doing this?
Speaker 1: I should not be doing this. I just stopped.
Speaker 3: You don't think you'll get back once you around the
Speaker 3: boys in the facility? No, No, All I have to
Speaker 3: do is get past these next three days.
Speaker 1: And I'm straight, but I will tell you I feel
Speaker 1: a little foggy behind the eyes, and I feel a
Speaker 1: little irritated and a little more tired. Oh so it's tough.
Speaker 1: It's tough, but I had to last what forty eight
Speaker 1: more hours? And then I also hate the fact of
Speaker 1: being like something controlling me. I can't stand that something
Speaker 1: has a hold of me the way it does.
Speaker 3: Right now, like this ends, you're saying the zens have
Speaker 3: so much power over you, you have.
Speaker 1: So much power over me, And I just gotta take
Speaker 1: that power away. I love that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was, but that was a That's probably why my
Speaker 1: mood is the way it is.
Speaker 3: Right now, Let's say this though, How is this done? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you'll ever do it again?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Never, you know what I mean. You already said you quit.
Speaker 1: I will for sure not do it until twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: Three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're saying it will be longer than that, but
Speaker 2: you never know if you're just like yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: let me get she.
Speaker 1: Was saying never because it's so difficult and it's so
Speaker 1: easy to get trapped into these motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: Dude, it's fucking you're.
Speaker 1: Taking the power back. You're taking the power back. I'm
Speaker 1: taking the power back. That is true, and I appreciate
Speaker 1: you just seeing my truth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's awesome. I think that's also when
Speaker 2: you're quitting. Yeah, like my dad, when he quits suf,
Speaker 2: he goes cold turkey. I know I've said it before,
Speaker 2: but when he quits you obviously he now choose again.
Speaker 3: But when she's the hardest thing to quit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he quit one time, it was cold turkey
Speaker 2: and he would literally take raw oats, raw oatmeal. The
Speaker 2: oats and put in his lip because you just apparently
Speaker 2: like everybody, they just gotta have some in their lip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's an oral fixation you have that you have there.
Speaker 1: It's like you're so used to doing one thing, fucking oats.
Speaker 1: It's really not that crazy of an idea. I've heard
Speaker 1: people putting grass in their in their mouth, just like
Speaker 1: actually taking grass from the ground. No, when I quit chew,
Speaker 1: I just fucking I was like, I'm done, because I
Speaker 1: remember when I was in Brandington, California, Brandington, Florida at
Speaker 1: IMG Academy and me and Zach Mettenberger had this gallon
Speaker 1: of a gallon of water that I drank on the
Speaker 1: way down there, and.
Speaker 3: I kept it, who's your girlfriend? At the time, I
Speaker 3: was dating Reagan. Why does that matter?
Speaker 1: Because every story you have you always have this just
Speaker 1: this girl, that first and last name that you always
Speaker 1: just I know, I was always relationship, but I actually
Speaker 1: wasn't dating Ringgan. It was one of the funny to me,
Speaker 1: it was one of the very short one of the
Speaker 1: very short times in my life I was single.
Speaker 3: I me and Karen just broke up.
Speaker 1: Me and Ring're kind of talking, but that wasn't really
Speaker 1: a thing, and uh, I had this gallon of water,
Speaker 1: and what basically what I did was, uh, I would
Speaker 1: chew and I would spit in that gawn of water.
Speaker 1: And I filled that fucking gallon of water all the
Speaker 1: way up with my chew and my spit. It was disgusting.
Speaker 1: But it took me like it took me, like, Bro,
Speaker 1: no joke, two weeks, not very long at all, if
Speaker 1: that's the true, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And so weeks to fill it up.
Speaker 1: Two weeks filled up. It's just got to the top.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm done, and I was. I just
Speaker 1: stopped doing it.
Speaker 2: Bro, There's nothing more disgusting than having one of those
Speaker 2: homies that have all their fucking spinners sitting around.
Speaker 3: Bro especial an office of line thing too.
Speaker 2: God, you get in the car or something, somebody leaves
Speaker 2: are spitner in there. Oh my fucking god. I just
Speaker 2: remembered one time I took it. I fucking drank out
Speaker 2: of my dad's spinner once.
Speaker 3: How gross.
Speaker 2: Oh, if fucking wanted to come on, So this is like, well,
Speaker 2: this is like a couple of years ago, It's not
Speaker 2: that long ago.
Speaker 1: He starts with, Oh, my fucking God, and then goes, oh,
Speaker 1: I want to kill myself.
Speaker 2: Bro, it was you know what I'm saying, Like, imagine that,
Speaker 2: like you just grab a fucking spinner you think it's
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck I thought it was.
Speaker 1: And I took a big swig and I, oh my,
Speaker 1: I just realized this. My dad's fucking spit in. It
Speaker 1: hurts my stomach just to hear you talk about it
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: Fucking disgusting and you spit it out.
Speaker 2: But you want to gag yourself and just puke whatever
Speaker 2: the fuck is even in your stomach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially because you if you haven't, if you don't
Speaker 1: have tobacco and nicotina in your system already to put
Speaker 1: that in there, you're asking to throw up basically.
Speaker 3: That's bro. You're asking for what kind of house cleaning
Speaker 3: we got? I know, we know we've got a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff coming up.
Speaker 1: One big thing is the Boys have finally hit their
Speaker 1: last final tour of the Bust and Spring Tour, which
Speaker 1: was absolutely huge. Yeah, we went to uh, we were
Speaker 1: in Nebraska, and then we were in Michigan and then
Speaker 1: now this past Wednesday. So you guys listening to this
Speaker 1: right now. A week ago we were there. We went
Speaker 1: and uh saw the facilities at the University of Tennessee
Speaker 1: and Knoxville, Tennessee.
Speaker 3: It was beautiful.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 3: Like I said before, I think I've said this oorng
Speaker 3: is not my color. I don't think oreg is a
Speaker 3: cool color.
Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of it. I went there
Speaker 1: and I fucking loved it. I thought it was outstanding.
Speaker 1: I thought the the coaches were great. I think your
Speaker 1: boy Eckler was awesome. I think Coach Hype was great.
Speaker 1: I think watching those guys just kind of grind through
Speaker 1: it and the way they led us into the facility
Speaker 1: and on the practice field was amazing. But we got uh,
Speaker 1: it's already premiered, you guys, it's already happened. But the Hogs,
Speaker 1: we had two offense linemen on there, Cooper Mays and
Speaker 1: Jerome what Carvin Carvin so and I've heard a lot
Speaker 1: of good things about Jerome. Yeah, he heard good things
Speaker 1: about Cooper too, but I weren't on the street. Is
Speaker 1: that Jerome kid's gonna be a bit of a stud.
Speaker 1: So if you guys just want to jump over there
Speaker 1: and listen to that. We also have coach Coach v
Speaker 1: who's playing at play at six pm tonight.
Speaker 3: What's Monday right now?
Speaker 4: How you guys will know it's already?
Speaker 3: How funny is it?
Speaker 2: Bro he got kicked out of the game, I say,
Speaker 2: in the first inning, first out of him.
Speaker 4: It was awesome.
Speaker 1: Put his dick it right up on him, right up
Speaker 1: on him, dude. I think it's hilarious that coaches also
Speaker 1: wear the uniform. I wish they did that in football too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Rabel Shiller pads on his ship, thipads and thigh pads.
Speaker 1: Getting mad at him for not wearing the thigh pads.
Speaker 1: A little spillage. But I think Coach v was awesome. Uh,
Speaker 1: Coach Hypel, he was awesome. I think every volunteer fan,
Speaker 1: we obviously have a lot of them based on where
Speaker 1: we're at geographically on this earth.
Speaker 3: I think you guys are really gonna enjoy him. He
Speaker 3: was great.
Speaker 1: Very uh, very sec ford, very sec forward guy.
Speaker 3: He was baked.
Speaker 1: I'm coach Eckler is Yeah, man's fit for a straight check.
Speaker 1: Let's just be totally honest. That guy he is. He is,
Speaker 1: He's a crazy animal. By the time else comes out,
Speaker 1: what's what's going.
Speaker 4: To be out?
Speaker 1: Everything's out? Everything you're listening right now. All the interviews
Speaker 1: are out, So I was just making sure because I
Speaker 1: knew that two were premiering today, which is Monday, but
Speaker 1: the other two are gonna be pre premiering on Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Monday, Monday evening. They're all out, So go check
Speaker 2: all that shit out. You want to help the boys out,
Speaker 2: please continue if you're on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, unsubscribed,
Speaker 2: resubscribe or unfollow, refollow, whatever the whatever it is now
Speaker 2: and on YouTube, please make sure to subscribe to the boys.
Speaker 2: That's what helps us out a lot. Uh, but great
Speaker 2: interviews we thought, I know are under the hood that'll
Speaker 2: come out tomorrow. You're listening on Wednesday. The Underhood will
Speaker 2: come out? Is it tomorrow? Right on Thursday?
Speaker 1: A lot of house slanning items, a lot of house
Speaker 1: splanning ours.
Speaker 3: Either way, under the hood will be out.
Speaker 2: But we had there's a consensus we thought these interviews
Speaker 2: were the best ones.
Speaker 3: I do think it's hilarious. It's right that guesses we
Speaker 3: all talked.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I do think it's hilarious that coach v Is.
Speaker 2: We joked about his mean streak and him being Italian.
Speaker 2: He can't help it. He just yeah, yeah, it's fucking mad.
Speaker 2: And now he suspended for four games. So he's suspended
Speaker 2: as we're dropping this pod right now.
Speaker 3: But go check all that shit out. It was awesome.
Speaker 3: We had a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: One last thing that I'm doing a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: is I'm a fucking.
Speaker 3: Tennessee volunteer baseball fan.
Speaker 1: Now, oh yeah, I have, and my emotions in my
Speaker 1: heart can be bought in this stage of my life
Speaker 1: where I am with baseball real quickly. But as that
Speaker 1: stands right now, I am a volunteer baseball fan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I say we when I talk about our baseball games.
Speaker 1: That's how fucking invested I am. Right now, I want
Speaker 1: those boys to go all the way. It is donkeyed
Speaker 1: Alabama's bitch ass twelve to three or something like that.
Speaker 1: Look Alabama, dude, with football, you nerds.
Speaker 3: Also, what about Sunday Live Show? That's right, this Sundays
Speaker 3: life though it doesn't even matter, that's true. I need
Speaker 3: to promote.
Speaker 1: Sunday Live show. Will Will and Taylor have done zero
Speaker 1: preparation for the show. I know, I know what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do. Hopefully this zen hangover gets out of here
Speaker 1: before I can fucking that.
Speaker 3: We got forty eight hours.
Speaker 1: We have forty ho what are you talking about? Forty
Speaker 1: eight hours for you to get out of your fit,
Speaker 1: for you to get Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's hope to God. Let's hope to God.
Speaker 1: But yeah, absolutely the live shows Zany's This Sunday gonna
Speaker 1: be very cool. It might be trash also, but we're
Speaker 1: gonna absolutely love it and embrace.
Speaker 4: The whole time.
Speaker 3: Fucking laugh your asses off. It's gonna be a blast.
Speaker 1: And if you if it's not funny and your Tier one,
Speaker 1: laugh extra fucking heart at our jokes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I love God.
Speaker 2: Please we should have some fun stuff that we got.
Speaker 2: We have ideas we've talked about, but we truly have
Speaker 2: not done fucking dick for it.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Another announcement because this bus and Spring Torn stuff has
Speaker 2: went so well, you guys, Oh, not a lot of
Speaker 2: drop off from listening to our normal drop hours of
Speaker 2: every Wednesday to all the busts and Spring interviews because
Speaker 2: we dropped.
Speaker 3: They can't waitload of them wait to hear what you're
Speaker 3: gonna say.
Speaker 1: But the boys are bringing you a bonus episode starting
Speaker 1: the first week of May.
Speaker 3: We're no, We're not doing bonus episodes. We're doing correct,
Speaker 3: We're doing that actable bus with the boys.
Speaker 1: We're gonna start doing two episodes a week, releasing on
Speaker 1: Tuesday and Thursday. Correct, Tuesday and Thursday, first week of
Speaker 1: May for eight weeks, yes, first week.
Speaker 3: Of May, all the way through the end of Gery
Speaker 3: and we'll be going twice a week.
Speaker 2: And like Taylor said, Tuesdays and Thursdays will be the
Speaker 2: new drop days.
Speaker 1: So that way we can bring you, guys, double the
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Speaker 1: and twice the subscriptions. Am I right?
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Speaker 1: how'd you get so good at reading? I don't know, man, reps,
Speaker 1: reps REP in the gym. I'm trying to read books now,
Speaker 1: like I'm just trying to get reps. I started to
Speaker 1: read just aaruli in a night, the books that I'm reading,
Speaker 1: just to try and get better at reading.
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Speaker 1: But now, as always our favorite segment of the week.
Speaker 1: One of our favorite segments of the week is shout
Speaker 1: out no free Shadow of the Week. Let's go boys,
Speaker 1: absolutely excited for yet another week of this. As always,
Speaker 1: will start in the back back left corner.
Speaker 3: It's got JP. What is your shout out? No free
Speaker 3: shadow of the week?
Speaker 5: My shout out no free shout out of the week
Speaker 5: comes thanks to uh Will. He's been tweeting a lot
Speaker 5: about pooping recently. Yeah, and I guess it was yesterday.
Speaker 5: So on Sunday night I was pooping, I didn't have
Speaker 5: a lot of toilet paper left, and also I didn't
Speaker 5: have any in like the you know, wherever you put
Speaker 5: it in the cabinet, and I had a one wiper
Speaker 5: really no free shout out to the one wiper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thoses bro.
Speaker 1: When you get one in there, clean you sandpaper and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, this Sh'S really right, It just really
Speaker 1: goes wiper down here.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It almost makes you feel like sometimes when you have
Speaker 1: a good poop and you feel like it is a ghotwiper.
Speaker 3: Why should I even waste this toilet paper? Right now?
Speaker 1: You still do sometimes you still what? Oh do you
Speaker 1: like to risk standing up Chris cheeks and move on?
Speaker 1: You don't like to do nothing?
Speaker 3: You got the risks. Yeah, that was.
Speaker 1: An outstanding shout out and no free shadow of the
Speaker 1: week Jackie.
Speaker 6: Baby mine kind of goes off my first week that
Speaker 6: eating out a loan. But I was at a party
Speaker 6: this weekend and hit a little Irish exit and my
Speaker 6: shout out is the Irish exit.
Speaker 4: I always I love it.
Speaker 6: I hate when motherfucker's Irish exit on me. It feels personal,
Speaker 6: but I do it. I'm like my slide under the radar.
Speaker 6: You home, you know it's it's eleven pm.
Speaker 3: You got out of there.
Speaker 6: It didn't have to say about to ten people. It
Speaker 6: just kind of mentally saves you a little bit of,
Speaker 6: you know, room.
Speaker 1: And it can be also awkward sometimes when you're trying
Speaker 1: to like when you're trying to go and you got
Speaker 1: to dap people up and the dap up goes wrong.
Speaker 3: I'll see you later.
Speaker 1: You're hugging people and you stay goodbye and then you
Speaker 1: go do something. You come back and you stick it
Speaker 1: by guess like we've already fucking done this. I had
Speaker 1: a buddy back in high schools. Name is Robert Mugie. Guys,
Speaker 1: outstanding individual, hilariously very hands the blaze and uh he
Speaker 1: was he I think it might have been the og.
Speaker 1: If the Irish could buy in high school, we would
Speaker 1: be like, Hey, we're going out tonight. We're gonna go
Speaker 1: eight cars whatever whatever dumb shit we're gonna do in
Speaker 1: high school and be all right, cool, I'll meet you
Speaker 1: guys out. What time would be like ten o'clock? Be
Speaker 1: all right, cool guy, We'll go home, go immediately to
Speaker 1: sleep with zero intention of ever texting us telling us
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna make it or nothing at first. It
Speaker 1: makes you mad when it happens to you, like you
Speaker 1: said Jackie, but I kind of respect it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of respect it does.
Speaker 1: This saves a lot of time, bro like and then
Speaker 1: you like you like, get to your boys that you
Speaker 1: know wants you to stay. Like to me, if I'm
Speaker 1: leaving somewhere, I would have a tough time fucking. I
Speaker 1: don't want to tell Taylor By, I just want to leave.
Speaker 1: That's that's because if I'm like, hey, I'm a here
Speaker 1: man staying my residuals from Rob Muji.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta.
Speaker 2: Then they give you reasons why you gotta stay, and
Speaker 2: then you're kind of questioning yourself, and then you're like,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe I'll stay a.
Speaker 3: Little bit longer. And then you're there a little bit
Speaker 3: fucking longer, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And as a friend who does that to all of
Speaker 1: his friends, when you try to leave and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just staying a little longer, you might
Speaker 1: as well just let him leave in the first place,
Speaker 1: because then in the back of your head you got
Speaker 1: that anxiety like they're gonna leave any minute.
Speaker 3: Make the most of it. What are you doing? And
Speaker 3: you're thinking about it too much? You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 3: a bit of it's an honor.
Speaker 6: When your boy comes up, you're like, hey, I'm about
Speaker 6: to hit the Irish exgit. I was gonna say by
Speaker 6: to you though, and you alone. So if one of
Speaker 6: your boys hits you with that, you.
Speaker 3: Gotta respect that. Ooh, it's truthe and you.
Speaker 1: Gotta respect that.
Speaker 3: What do you want to say?
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: I love that. Fucking I'm gonna add that to the book.
Speaker 1: I don't don't do that because I know, because that's
Speaker 1: gonna be me. You're not gonna be the dud that
Speaker 1: comes up to me and be just like, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you know, leave him.
Speaker 3: When he said that, I only thought of you. I'm
Speaker 3: saying goodbye to me only. Yeah, I'll just go up
Speaker 3: to Taylor and just say that to Taylor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know how I get somebody, Hey, what
Speaker 1: do you mean, like you'll whisper in my ear and
Speaker 1: be a group of way what you mean? Yeah, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm leaving anyway. I just want to let you know,
Speaker 1: just to give you that respect. Oh, that would be
Speaker 1: a good way to defuse me.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I feel like that's a great diffuser.
Speaker 1: Like standing at the end of the day, the other
Speaker 1: side has to let you go, like I fucking I
Speaker 1: fuck with that dude. Yeah, I'll tell you what. It's
Speaker 1: a good you love it. That's a great shout out.
Speaker 1: That's a good shout out. No free shadow of the Week, William, What.
Speaker 3: Do you got dude? Mine?
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna take it because mine's about
Speaker 1: Mine's about some shit too.
Speaker 3: Oh wait poop, Yeah, Mine's about some poop.
Speaker 2: My shout out, no free shout out of the Week
Speaker 2: is the fucking morning too. There's no better time to
Speaker 2: take a shit. There's more, no more better time of
Speaker 2: solidarity than having a morning.
Speaker 3: Shit to yourself whether or not something's going on.
Speaker 2: Like if you're at the facility, you know you're you're
Speaker 2: in between the team meeting or going into position meetings,
Speaker 2: and you just tell your coach your position coach, like, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to the house of the restaurant real quick,
Speaker 2: and then you go and hit the stall. You pull
Speaker 2: your phone out and it lasts longer than it should.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean or me currently you wake up,
Speaker 2: baby's crying a little bit. Wife needs a little bit
Speaker 2: of help, Like, hey, baby, you know I gotta go
Speaker 2: hit my morning richie on my morning routine.
Speaker 3: You're in there a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: I feel like I have a even I appreciated the
Speaker 1: morning too a lot, but now I feel like I
Speaker 1: have a different little appreciation for it as a new
Speaker 1: father as well.
Speaker 3: So my shout out, no free shout out of the
Speaker 3: week goes to the morning too. Bro, I love that dude,
Speaker 3: the morning two.
Speaker 1: It starts a day off right, And if it doesn't
Speaker 1: happen within I guess an hour or two hour buffer
Speaker 1: of when it happens.
Speaker 3: It kind of fucks the day. It really does.
Speaker 1: Like you're kind of excited to do and you feel
Speaker 1: your body, your body's used to the routine. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I've got to do this, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be in a fucking bad mood. It's like somebody who
Speaker 1: who's addicted to coffin. They don't get their coffee. It's
Speaker 1: no deet your morning. Shit, dude, you're you're like you said,
Speaker 1: You're thrown for a fucking loop. Like I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be on my best behavior.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's an outstanding shot out of free shout
Speaker 1: out of the week. My shout out no free shout
Speaker 1: out of the week is uh. I don't know if
Speaker 1: everybody's ever indulged in this or have, but in Arizona's
Speaker 1: it's a really big deal and I do love it.
Speaker 1: I think it's a very underrated quality drink that a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't get very often. Is uh the
Speaker 1: quick Trip slushies. I think quick Trip slushies. It's a
Speaker 1: nice size of them, how many of a variety they have.
Speaker 1: I think it's an outstanding, underrated just middle of the
Speaker 1: day Street.
Speaker 3: You get that.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, if you got diabetes, Jack, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough gig on your body.
Speaker 3: I'm really yeah, that's awesome. You know that dude.
Speaker 1: We were on the way back from way back from
Speaker 1: Knoxville and I fucking got poked by one of his
Speaker 1: used syringes.
Speaker 3: Oh. I thought he's just doing drugs or something. No, hey,
Speaker 3: I wish it was that easy. No, I had fucking
Speaker 3: I had stabbed.
Speaker 1: But I will say, when you the quick Trip, my
Speaker 1: personal favorite is the horse shota. I think the horse
Speaker 1: shot is outstanding, unbelievable. But you can do the suicide.
Speaker 1: You hit them all. You have a bunch of different
Speaker 1: colors in there. I think it's great. The one downfall
Speaker 1: on the Quick Trip slushy or just slushes in general.
Speaker 1: You've got to pace yourself when you drink them.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 1: You go too fast. You're gonna suck up all this syrup.
Speaker 1: It's just gonna be ice. And that is a tough
Speaker 1: pill to swallow. When you look at half of your
Speaker 1: bottle full and you're like, I got nothing to do
Speaker 1: with this, and ran at that point till you ran
Speaker 1: out of patience, Like you might wait for a minute,
Speaker 1: But then you hurry up and at that straw.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you take up that little bit of juice that.
Speaker 1: You look here, get that day in wet wet.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think I gotta be like liquid in there.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you one thing I do want to comment on.
Speaker 3: I don't this.
Speaker 2: Maybe this is a this is not a Everybody might
Speaker 2: not agree with this, but I think a suicide drink
Speaker 2: is overrated, might.
Speaker 1: Not be popular, paying I think that right right. My
Speaker 1: young self was obsessed with like you just think you're
Speaker 1: coming up with the best conglomerate, like your.
Speaker 3: Boys doing a suicide. You're like, you guys ain't doing
Speaker 3: it like me.
Speaker 6: That's what it was when your kid, those like almost
Speaker 6: your first chance to like your own decision, making your
Speaker 6: own freedom.
Speaker 4: You like I'm.
Speaker 6: But then once you get older, you know you've had
Speaker 6: you know, you get to start driving, you started meeting girls,
Speaker 6: whatever it is, you got other decisions to take care of.
Speaker 6: You just need one soft drink. You gotta limit that stuff.
Speaker 6: So when you're a kid, when you only have so
Speaker 6: many options in life, you just got to take them
Speaker 6: all at the beginning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I agree. How it's overrated. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's fucking game. That's your bag, boys.
Speaker 1: What an outstanding shout out, no free shadow, it really
Speaker 1: was hand I love it, Due, I loved it. We'll
Speaker 1: make it quick, easy and brisk, because this is a
Speaker 1: very long podcast today, very long, very long hours. Aren't
Speaker 1: hit three hours right now, even just doing this intro.
Speaker 3: But sort of, God, it's worth it. It's worth all
Speaker 3: of your.
Speaker 1: Fucking Oh it's so good, dude, it's it's and it
Speaker 1: hits a whole bunch of different array of things the
Speaker 1: whole time. Just Mike, Mike formerly known as Mike Stugg,
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Speaker 1: Also before we even get into this, let's give a
Speaker 1: quick class for bloss. The man to literally everything in
Speaker 1: his knee and he said, fucking I'm gonna take a day.
Speaker 1: Dude took twenty four hours, put his brace on and
Speaker 1: climbed his ass up in this bus.
Speaker 3: He heard us the next man up that he heard
Speaker 3: us the next man out.
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, dude, I've been following since we did
Speaker 1: the pod. I obviously knew about you through your music
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And then when we oh that
Speaker 1: fits nice.
Speaker 3: She looks nice.
Speaker 4: It does look see.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm glowing right now.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the first time he came on. I was like,
Speaker 1: let me see what the boy's up to, let me
Speaker 1: see what he's doing. I know before you're in Montana,
Speaker 1: you crused Arizona for a bit. I think this is
Speaker 1: your second. You're in Austin. Ye for a second state.
Speaker 1: So what's the idea behind this?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it for music or is it for and am
Speaker 1: I ready to put roots down? I want to find
Speaker 1: out what life's all about first, a.
Speaker 3: Little bit of everything, I think.
Speaker 4: So I spent six almost seven years in Los Angeles,
Speaker 4: which was arguably seven too many. Yeah, I'm not exactly
Speaker 4: like a Hollywood guy, La guy, but I was in
Speaker 4: that scene, and you know, obviously I make music, and
Speaker 4: throughout that time, like the progression of how I created
Speaker 4: music changed to where I felt it was a necessity
Speaker 4: to be there for So what I said was null
Speaker 4: and voy like I definitely should have been there for
Speaker 4: a certain amount of time. But over that time I
Speaker 4: started approaching my creation of music differently. I make it
Speaker 4: all myself in house, like half the time in boxers
Speaker 4: fucking wasted, yeah, you know, like making a song a
Speaker 4: fucking delirious idea like four in the morning, you know,
Speaker 4: but crazy yeah, yeah, I mean seriously, a lot of
Speaker 4: these songs on the album were like I couldn't even
Speaker 4: They're just like moments of time over the past few years.
Speaker 4: But like a lot of them were started on those
Speaker 4: types of nights that that would never happen if I said, Hey,
Speaker 4: I'm going to be creative at four pm tomorrow, so
Speaker 4: let's get a let's get a studio session book. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that that paradigm doesn't really make a lot of sense
Speaker 4: to me, Like that whole idea of just like trying
Speaker 4: to schedule when you're going to be inspired or be creative,
Speaker 4: you know, it doesn't really make any sense. So it's
Speaker 4: kind of like a strike of inspiration almost, and I
Speaker 4: think you can't really capture that without Like my my
Speaker 4: studio now is literally bedside, like my bed's right, like
Speaker 4: it's it's in the fucking room. I don't even put
Speaker 4: it in another room in the house, even if we
Speaker 4: have a room that could be a studio, I'll put
Speaker 4: it in my room because it's just the intimacy and
Speaker 4: the privacy of it. And half the time I'll hop
Speaker 4: out of bed and just put a little idea down
Speaker 4: and then go to it tomorrow, you know. So to
Speaker 4: answer your question, like, it was a little bit of
Speaker 4: everything I wanted to get the fuck out of La.
Speaker 4: It was kind of driving me creative.
Speaker 1: A lot of cocaine in La, yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: It's like it's literally a climate.
Speaker 3: Like that how much it snows exactly.
Speaker 4: Exactly and it's literally like like a like a pack
Speaker 4: of gum.
Speaker 3: Everyone has it.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And at my house, like my house Stevenson Ranch,
Speaker 4: the hat you're wearing, like the brand that's that's really
Speaker 4: what we called my house called it Stevenson Ranch because
Speaker 4: you know the inside joke. We called everybody Steve's and
Speaker 4: it just became that because people would go there after
Speaker 4: the bars and ship and like we weren't really you
Speaker 4: think about Hollywood in LA and the nightlife, like it's
Speaker 4: a tough scene for for us type of guys, Like
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be at the fucking clubs and
Speaker 4: like the celebrities and I don't give a funck who's
Speaker 4: in there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like, and there's different levels to it too, because some
Speaker 1: celebrities are in there at the club and then he.
Speaker 3: Becomes so much of a celebrity you can't even go to.
Speaker 4: The club, right, yeah, I mean, And like as time
Speaker 4: went on, we got cooler and cooler in the scene,
Speaker 4: and I wanted it less and less, if that makes
Speaker 4: any sense. As I got access into it, I was like,
Speaker 4: this is fucking lame. I'm not even having fun. No
Speaker 4: one's having fun.
Speaker 1: So we had chasing a girl exactly. I had the
Speaker 1: most fun part of the battle is that Hey, how
Speaker 1: you doing?
Speaker 3: What's your name?
Speaker 4: How are you? Or yeah?
Speaker 3: We uh man.
Speaker 4: It just kind of basically had that realization. We stopped
Speaker 4: going out people, you know, going to the house a lot.
Speaker 4: It became a thing and there were a lot of
Speaker 4: little little white baggies floating around the house and I
Speaker 4: was kind of sick of it. Yeah, but yeah, we've
Speaker 4: been since then, it's been about a year and a
Speaker 4: half of travel. We're basically living places fluidly, like two
Speaker 4: to four months at a time really, and then as
Speaker 4: soon as like I start getting the itch and the
Speaker 4: boys start getting the itch, we start we start house shopping.
Speaker 4: And and when I say shopping, like private leases have
Speaker 4: been huge for me. Airbnb is one thing, but I
Speaker 4: got a pretty cool network or either athletes.
Speaker 3: Or like entrepreneur guys who have extra homes.
Speaker 4: Or whatever, you know, So really like fucking picking a
Speaker 4: spot in the map and going and we've we've been
Speaker 4: all over the place. But it's been really really really
Speaker 4: really fucking dope and really inspiring the way I make music,
Speaker 4: Like I'm looking out at the views. The views are changing,
Speaker 4: the rooms, the energy are changing. It's it just keeps
Speaker 4: me inspired. I feel like, no, I'm on a life standpoint.
Speaker 4: It's been so fun. You know though. The boys are
Speaker 4: with me, so I'm not necessarily like starting over anywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's just kind of replanting our seas and fucking we're
Speaker 4: having a blast.
Speaker 3: Like we partied a lot this year and had a
Speaker 3: lot of fun. But yeah, I heard the eighty twenty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but it's landed me here where I'm just like,
Speaker 4: I'm almost like we're going into tour and I'm like
Speaker 4: I'm kind of turning down, you know what i mean.
Speaker 4: I'm not where in the past I would be going
Speaker 4: up up, up right. You guys are like, no, mads, yeah, no, mads,
Speaker 4: No maths, How like sustainable do you think that is?
Speaker 2: It's kind of love your perspective because all you guys
Speaker 2: are all different, right, all your boys, when you guys
Speaker 2: all travel, you guys all.
Speaker 3: Relatively the same haircut all around, but very different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and but I've always been curious, like, man, I
Speaker 2: wonder how long like that keeps going or is it
Speaker 2: just a mindset you think you've just adopted and you're
Speaker 2: gonna keep. Yeah, I really don't think it's sustainable for
Speaker 2: much longer, but I am going to push the envelope
Speaker 2: because it's just been so rewarding, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like as a person too, like just fuck the music
Speaker 2: and everything else. Like I really, uh, I think I'll
Speaker 2: look back at this time and be like, wow, like
Speaker 2: you remember when we did that, you know, like yeah,
Speaker 2: for fucking two or three years straight. And you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not exactly a spring fucking chicken. I got some
Speaker 2: silver foxes coming in, you know, Like, what are you
Speaker 2: thirty three? I've been doing it for I've been doing
Speaker 2: it for fucking ten years, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like people don't What people don't really understand is like
Speaker 2: the mic stud thing, Like because we were acting like
Speaker 2: fucking kids a whole time, because we were We're just
Speaker 2: fucking big idiots, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But the mic stud thing when it started, I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't like I've made my first song idea ever
Speaker 4: at the age of twenty two, Like I was just
Speaker 4: in a student athlete the entire time, and I had
Speaker 4: you know, I was more or less gonna be I
Speaker 4: was definitely gonna be a professional baseball player. But again,
Speaker 4: I want to Duke University America. Ever heard of it?
Speaker 3: The Record of Blue Demons.
Speaker 4: It's my favorite, dude.
Speaker 3: I mean, I wasn't gonna bring it up, but it
Speaker 3: does still stand. It does still stand. I don't think
Speaker 3: anyone's gonna beat that record.
Speaker 4: It'll be tough. It's like one of those little cheeky records, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: because you had to have what was the record? I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: it's the lowest e ra in school history. It's like
Speaker 4: so so it's like the reason I say that because
Speaker 4: I was a closer, so so I would come in.
Speaker 4: But there's a minimum inning requirement, which I think is
Speaker 4: like seventy five innings or fifty innings, and I.
Speaker 3: Was like exactly at that.
Speaker 4: So it's like starters, there's more time out there on
Speaker 4: the starting pitchers getting more innings in. It's it's hard
Speaker 4: to have a one point sixty ra A, but like
Speaker 4: I think if I threw double the amount of innings
Speaker 4: probably would have, you know, been higher.
Speaker 3: You know, you get the record, but I got the record.
Speaker 1: Don't apologize for being great, Yeah, don't.
Speaker 3: Apologize, we're being great here. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: throwing double again? Like no fun that you got the record?
Speaker 4: Dude, who got four years eligibility? Are you really? I'm
Speaker 4: not quite done yet.
Speaker 1: I heard you on the on the Mayfield podcast. Only
Speaker 1: you're a big xbox guy.
Speaker 4: I'm talking.
Speaker 7: I'm going to get in that heisman. Yeah, I was
Speaker 7: an xbox guy for a little bit. But no, I'm
Speaker 7: the best athlete. Uh MIC's ever better. I think under under.
Speaker 1: Under five A, I'm the best out that. You're the
Speaker 1: type of guy that strucks me as I'm a five
Speaker 1: to ten when you're.
Speaker 3: Out in public.
Speaker 1: Guy never would never says, hey I'm five ten.
Speaker 3: All right, So there's a bit of let me tell
Speaker 3: you about Skis. First off, he's like you, is that
Speaker 3: your government named Skis?
Speaker 4: I wish we're gonna change it. We're gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 4: stick with Skis like marchdam is going to be a ball.
Speaker 4: He's a Skis ball like a one dollar ball. You
Speaker 4: just bounce it, bounce it a cat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, an unlimited amount things you can do with the ball.
Speaker 4: A purpose ball, a purpose a good time with honest ball.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean skes is uh one of the
Speaker 4: only guys I met in l A. That I was like,
Speaker 4: I fucking love this guy. And he's a younger kid.
Speaker 4: I usually can't hang out with younger kids. It's just
Speaker 4: so fucking you know, like how I was when I
Speaker 4: was that age, Just like I couldn't hang out with that.
Speaker 3: It's a maturity level you have to hang out with that.
Speaker 1: Twenty four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got some weather behind those eyes. Four years old,
Speaker 3: I mean I'm dead.
Speaker 1: You're like, how old are you?
Speaker 4: Forty?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You know, I'm a decade.
Speaker 7: I'm a decade in myself like her years in.
Speaker 2: I think I ran into you when I was like
Speaker 2: twelve or thirteen, because Nebraska's I think I ran into
Speaker 2: you like twelve or thirteen.
Speaker 3: Like you, How old are you?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Twenty fours?
Speaker 1: That's about right, twenty four. A lot of those white
Speaker 1: bag He's kind of caught you.
Speaker 4: Up in l A.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 3: I'm not the guy. I'm not the guy.
Speaker 1: I'm not the guy.
Speaker 4: I never turned down a good time though, But he's
Speaker 4: not that guy. No question. Drink plenty. You're not paying
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 3: It can't be bad for you.
Speaker 4: I ain't paying for ship. Yeah, MIC's done.
Speaker 3: I would be doing good a get a whole little
Speaker 3: squad here Mike's other desk. Hey man, I'm out with
Speaker 3: some homegirls right now. You gotta hit me real quick. Cocktails, man,
Speaker 3: you just signed any of that there?
Speaker 4: But yeah, go on. Actually, just so I've been doing
Speaker 4: this for a while and we never really This year
Speaker 4: or i'd say the last few years just kind of
Speaker 4: got into another tier with the rebrand and the mic
Speaker 4: stuff got into another tier of just being more lucrative
Speaker 4: and kind of we could be a little bit more fluid.
Speaker 4: We're growing.
Speaker 3: And I always wanted to sign a guy, but it
Speaker 3: had to be like the perfect guy.
Speaker 4: This is the perfect guy, great singer, like great artists,
Speaker 4: but like the most electric, funny guy that I came
Speaker 4: in came into contact with. Delusionally very delusionally optimistic about
Speaker 4: his athletic ability. But what I will say is what
Speaker 4: I will say is as I've spent more time with him,
Speaker 4: he's kind of a freak athlete in someone like if
Speaker 4: you go out and golf with him, like he'll wear
Speaker 4: he'll wear no shirt, flip flops toes out and he'll
Speaker 4: fucking play scratch golf. Okay, hold on.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna but you don't know golf.
Speaker 1: I'm not going I'm not going on records saying I'm
Speaker 1: golf five year old man with carpal tunnel and all
Speaker 1: the ship going on, and he can hit, he can
Speaker 1: do scratch golf like I'm not. Let's just say that's
Speaker 1: not the best measurement of athleticism. What is your sport
Speaker 1: other than golf?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 4: Uh, Mike?
Speaker 3: Ball A simple one, that's easy. What's that all coordination?
Speaker 3: That's easy? No, that's all you free?
Speaker 4: That's an easy one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now that's you're a You're an intermeal stock.
Speaker 4: You pick a sport. I'll go out the champions.
Speaker 3: I'll go out there and.
Speaker 4: I'll winipis is on a ability, I'm like recreational. You
Speaker 4: need that.
Speaker 3: You don't believe in yourself?
Speaker 7: Who is exactly I mean it? Though, Man, I'll go
Speaker 7: out there. I'll compete with the best of them.
Speaker 2: He's is one of those ones show up, you said,
Speaker 2: a juking. He'll just like fake toss the ball to somebody.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Move, but it's all linear the whole time. It's all
Speaker 3: in here.
Speaker 4: I'm take it with a great as salt, better athlete
Speaker 4: than you think by far right, looking at.
Speaker 3: Him, But the guys in the NFL, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like there's levels to what are the qualities?
Speaker 3: Like you were looking for to sign?
Speaker 2: You said electric funny, Like yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 2: about the athletics, Like what.
Speaker 3: Were you looking for? For real? That's probably that last
Speaker 3: one a big one. If it wasn't athletic, I don't
Speaker 3: know if.
Speaker 4: No, you know, it's I'm like a huge intuition guy.
Speaker 4: Like even though a lot of the guys in my group,
Speaker 4: like they kind of just flow, they kind of flow
Speaker 4: into my life. I'm like, I like these guys, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, something happens with it.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just kind of like let it happen. That's kind
Speaker 4: of how I operate in general with him. As I said,
Speaker 4: you know, we've had our our growth internally in our team,
Speaker 4: and we started talking about it and thinking about it,
Speaker 4: and I'm watching him and I like him, but spending
Speaker 4: time with him more. I've I've met so many people
Speaker 4: in my time and like for somebody to stick out
Speaker 4: and be really like really have a have a kind
Speaker 4: of stick to him, where like everyone I brought around him,
Speaker 4: whether it's a fucking you know, five star athlete, big
Speaker 4: pro athlete or popular artists like post or anyone was like, oh,
Speaker 4: we's keys like everyone loves him lights up the room,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: So it's one of those you have a blow about
Speaker 1: you and it's not just the light right behind your head.
Speaker 4: Ye I wasna good lighting. Well seriously though, That's that's
Speaker 4: that's where it originally started. And then it was more
Speaker 4: about like, hey, like can he make some can't he
Speaker 4: make this one thing? To have a great singing voice,
Speaker 4: because he has a nice like smoky voice.
Speaker 1: You know, would you mind if I pause you and
Speaker 1: just give us a quick taste. I'm not giving you,
Speaker 1: give us a little give me something to song?
Speaker 3: What's what do you listening to? The sing?
Speaker 1: Sing?
Speaker 3: Rodman?
Speaker 4: Rod, I'm not wrapping no mic right now. No, I'll
Speaker 4: give you a what do we what do we get?
Speaker 4: I'm doing I'm doing.
Speaker 3: I'm doing.
Speaker 4: Drops to Jupiter.
Speaker 3: Before you do, drop the Jupiter. I need you to.
Speaker 1: I don't want some half assed bullshit. I want to
Speaker 1: see full just Rex sport league guy right now.
Speaker 4: I want you. You want to sit on the bus,
Speaker 4: let's get it.
Speaker 3: Drops the jubiter the dress. Anyway, it's always is that
Speaker 3: the same song is that the song?
Speaker 4: Wait? Is that that?
Speaker 1: I was just thinking the beauty of that song, though
Speaker 1: I thought, Oh, I don't know, I couldn't really make it.
Speaker 4: What's the beginning of the song? That she's back in
Speaker 4: the must be drops the Jupiter in the egg.
Speaker 3: A little bit more. Yeah, let's tell I'll get some
Speaker 3: gooseies over here.
Speaker 1: Dude wore pants.
Speaker 4: And a couple more segarettes will smoke, the will smoke
Speaker 4: the voice out like cigarettes the entire time as well,
Speaker 4: the best for your voice and your situation, but serious cigarette.
Speaker 4: There's like a there's an element to songwriting and like
Speaker 4: making songs, like even myself, Like I'm not even close
Speaker 4: to a technical singer, Like I've bullied and learned how
Speaker 4: to bullied myself and be able to do it as
Speaker 4: my sound changed as it needed to evolve, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. Like if you go back to my
Speaker 4: old stuff, it was just like me rapping punchlines, you know.
Speaker 4: But he has that there's a tone, there's a tone
Speaker 4: to it. But also the biggest thing nowadays it's just
Speaker 4: guys who can put fucking good songs together, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? Like when I say technical singers, there's
Speaker 4: guys who are amazing technical singers, guys girls amazing classically trained,
Speaker 4: but like there's there's just there's no it factor to them.
Speaker 3: There's no artistic factory.
Speaker 4: It's just like an it thing more that like because
Speaker 4: TikTok and the way the world is like everyone can anyone.
Speaker 4: There's so many talented people singing their ass off to
Speaker 4: their phone that could sing and rap better than I can.
Speaker 4: But it's just about do you have like a stick
Speaker 4: something that like make people stick and want to follow
Speaker 4: you and want to care and want to buy your
Speaker 4: stuff and turn it into a business. You know.
Speaker 1: So Okay, this might be like a really juvenile question,
Speaker 1: but like what does a process look like to making
Speaker 1: a song? Like how do both of you kind of
Speaker 1: go like where where do you find it?
Speaker 3: A kind of go into it.
Speaker 7: We had a good thing going, man. Well we had
Speaker 7: Mike's birthday. It was right over Halloween.
Speaker 1: Hun birthday arguably the best holiday of all times. Arguably
Speaker 1: I would have it's my favorite as well. So look
Speaker 1: at us foundation being right now.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so we called uh, we called that little weekend
Speaker 7: the super Bender, and that that's kind of what pushed
Speaker 7: Mike into retirement, well, retirement.
Speaker 3: Retirement we overdid it.
Speaker 4: Retirement, we overdid it. But we made uh.
Speaker 3: We made like three or four songs in like a
Speaker 3: little night or two span that were dude.
Speaker 7: We were like, we were out of bounds drunk. We
Speaker 7: were just like five, six, seven in the morning. And
Speaker 7: I was just probably like ten the morning and Mike
Speaker 7: I pop into his room. There's like forty or fifty
Speaker 7: people in his bedroom and he's trying to cut his.
Speaker 3: Underwear spaces bedroom.
Speaker 7: He's got his underwear on and he's and he's got
Speaker 7: a bottle, he's got like four dips in and he's
Speaker 7: just got a bottle of whiskey in his hand.
Speaker 4: And I pop in there.
Speaker 7: I'm wearing a fucking I was. I was a caddy
Speaker 7: for Halloween, so I was wearing my I was wearing
Speaker 7: my bib. I was right from the whole thing.
Speaker 3: And we popped in there and we made two of
Speaker 3: our two of our favorite records, I think. But the
Speaker 3: up Again record that I just put out like I
Speaker 3: was made at like nine am.
Speaker 7: And I remember doing yea, we will go over here
Speaker 7: the next morning and he's like, yo, come in two
Speaker 7: we made last night.
Speaker 4: I was like check it out here we go listen
Speaker 4: to the first time. Listener, Yeah, the first time. That's
Speaker 4: that's actually like a really good point. That's that's how
Speaker 4: that's the special part about it for me, and I
Speaker 4: used it as a crutch to continue partying, as I
Speaker 4: was like, because I'm like I'm making yeah, yeah, yeah, like, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, that's actually a really cool point though, and
Speaker 4: that's how I feel like I come in the next day.
Speaker 3: I'm like listening. Honestly, I have no idea like that.
Speaker 4: I have no preconceived notions about what I did, and
Speaker 4: I just it's almost like digging for gold, like ooh,
Speaker 4: that's cool, and like forty you know, forty fifty sixty
Speaker 4: seconds of it might be fucking nonsense.
Speaker 3: Nothing happened.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask that if it's like you kind
Speaker 1: of you get a little hammered one night, go in
Speaker 1: You're like, this is fucking garbage.
Speaker 4: Having many air balls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, put that airballs right.
Speaker 1: That happened to Kobe baby, and it keeps.
Speaker 3: Shoot, he's incredible at patching records together.
Speaker 7: Yeah, incredible of picking out melodies and like, I mean,
Speaker 7: I'll go in there and just freestyle gibbers and then
Speaker 7: you know, by the time he's done pushing.
Speaker 3: Like a freestyle from Gibbers right now, I'm right there.
Speaker 3: We're not going to put you here that He's got
Speaker 3: a great ear for me, and he's really incredible.
Speaker 7: He's done a lot for my records that I've been
Speaker 7: working on recently because I don't know how to put
Speaker 7: songs together.
Speaker 4: It's just not it was, and it's something that I
Speaker 4: just as I've done it for so long. It's something
Speaker 4: that I literally just kind of chipped away at until
Speaker 4: like I started to really feel like I felt it
Speaker 4: probably a few years ago, like a shift happen and
Speaker 4: I was like I kind of understood how I wanted
Speaker 4: to sound, and then I also started to understand like,
Speaker 4: because I'm not musical at all, I was just a
Speaker 4: fucking traditional Like it's probably the same type of lifestyles
Speaker 4: y'all had, you know, Like just basically my whole life
Speaker 4: revolved around playing a sport and fucking getting through school
Speaker 4: and trying to be a pro, and that was the
Speaker 4: whole shtick, you know. But now I feel like with
Speaker 4: the ten, it's like a ten thousand hour thing like
Speaker 4: anything else. Reps, Like I've actually put in tons of
Speaker 4: reps in my room, working freestyle and mumbling, singing and
Speaker 4: trying to find the right melodies. So now I feel
Speaker 4: like I'm in a spot where I can actually kind
Speaker 4: of just like I'm free. I can kind of do
Speaker 4: it myself. I'm not depending on anybody else. I'm putting
Speaker 4: it together, you know, and it's it's actually really fun.
Speaker 4: That's like the art for me, Like you know, like
Speaker 4: I take it in tears and steps. Usually it's a
Speaker 4: three step process. I mumble freestyle. I Don'm not even
Speaker 4: worried about what I'm saying originally, it's just how it feels.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 4: There's some nights where I got, like you said, like
Speaker 4: tons of girls and people around in the room listening.
Speaker 4: They're like, is this out yet? And it's like not
Speaker 4: even words to it. It's not even words. It's mumbled
Speaker 4: they right in front of them. They just don't even
Speaker 4: realize it, you know what I mean. Yeah, if they
Speaker 4: like the song when it's mumbles, how are they not
Speaker 4: going to like it when I write words to it later.
Speaker 4: So that's kind of my step. I write the words
Speaker 4: later and I don't even really write them. I just
Speaker 4: kind of like, you see, I just kind of like
Speaker 4: let them channel in and you know, I don't overwrite
Speaker 4: before I used to like write a whole song like
Speaker 4: a music, like a fucking goddamn homework assignment, and then
Speaker 4: go in there and try to sing it. Now everything
Speaker 4: by the book, Yeah, it's totally opposite. I'm totally left
Speaker 4: of it. And personally, I don't know if I would
Speaker 4: even I know I wouldn't have the success I'm having,
Speaker 4: but I don't think i'd be enjoying it.
Speaker 3: I don't even know if i'd still be doing it
Speaker 3: if I was doing it that way still, But do
Speaker 3: you feel like that was a necessary step?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, because I feel like like when you were saying earlier,
Speaker 2: you know, you feel like the concept of I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get a studio session in a four and do all
Speaker 2: this like people who are starting out who might not
Speaker 2: have a luxury of having something very established or a
Speaker 2: bank account established, to be like I'm just gonna let
Speaker 2: a free flow. Like they're taking it so serious, they
Speaker 2: got to write everything down, We're gonna go and use
Speaker 2: the studio this time because they take.
Speaker 3: It so seriously. Like were those your first steps?
Speaker 4: Yeahstly, and times have changed, right, so now I think
Speaker 4: with TikTok and and and how tech music tech is evolving,
Speaker 4: Like you really don't need much to get started. The
Speaker 4: first song I ever did college humor, I made it
Speaker 4: on a hundred dollars mic at a in a duke
Speaker 4: in a duke fucking dorm room. Stroman was right there
Speaker 4: with me, Marcus that that plays for the cubs now
Speaker 4: and on garage band you know, like platform, Yeah, outstanding.
Speaker 4: It literally comes with a Mac like I I don't
Speaker 4: even know if I would have like went and sourced
Speaker 4: like pro tools and learned it, like it just kind
Speaker 4: of wung it, you know, And I think wing it
Speaker 4: has really gotten me to where I am to answer
Speaker 4: your question nowadays, I think the veil has been lifted
Speaker 4: on like the fucking you know.
Speaker 3: Facade of like ooh, he's in the studio, Like wow, you.
Speaker 4: Know, like there was kind of this veil lifted where
Speaker 4: like you kind of have to take you have to
Speaker 4: be on or get signed to.
Speaker 3: Be making music.
Speaker 4: You don't now go flip on TikTok and the kids
Speaker 4: make high quality stuff in their bedrooms everywhere. I was
Speaker 4: just kind of one of the first dudes doing that,
Speaker 4: you know, like not to not even to say it
Speaker 4: that way. I was just like, this is the only
Speaker 4: way I was gonna get through an injury, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's that's kind of how how that's how the whole
Speaker 4: thing started, you know. And then there was a phase
Speaker 4: where I started to get a little popular, moved out
Speaker 4: to LA I was in like the.
Speaker 3: You know big look you made it studios, Like look
Speaker 3: at the how cool is this?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Then you get the bill later photo in the lab
Speaker 3: get the bill.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, I mean, dude, these places are like a
Speaker 4: fucking some of them are like five hundred dollars an hour,
Speaker 4: thousand dollars an hour. And then you got the girls
Speaker 4: coming in. We're drinking, fucking you know, it is just
Speaker 4: a concert at that point.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And like that's what happens to a lot
Speaker 3: of these kids.
Speaker 4: Like when they're spending money, they get they get a
Speaker 4: million dollars, they don't understand first it's being recouped, you know,
Speaker 4: Like so it's a really bad it's a it's a loan,
Speaker 4: and it's really bad interest and you're losing your ownership.
Speaker 4: Like you when you go start a business and you
Speaker 4: get a business loan, they don't own the fucking business.
Speaker 4: Right after you get them paid back, like that's it's
Speaker 4: not a fair commodity exchange. There's just there's time. We
Speaker 4: could talk about that all day, but ya.
Speaker 1: Jilly Will talks about that quite a bit. How it's
Speaker 1: like all these kids, like they become rappers or singers
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, and they want to do the
Speaker 1: fancy music video with the G six in the back
Speaker 1: and the girls, the fat asses and the Lamborghinis and
Speaker 1: all that, and they're like, oh, I'm killing it. They
Speaker 1: don't realize there's a bill coming. They don't realize a million.
Speaker 3: You don't make a dime until they get all that back.
Speaker 3: All that bad it's usually like a.
Speaker 1: Bad like split like oh terrible, like eighty five fifteen
Speaker 1: right right, yeah, yeah, the label gets it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's just it doesn't make sense. I mean,
Speaker 3: I went to a lot of these.
Speaker 4: It's kind of the thing again, the veil being lifted on,
Speaker 4: Like this industry is it's a little sisty, you know,
Speaker 4: like and they pray on kids coming out of us,
Speaker 4: you know, talented kids who fucking never had any money
Speaker 4: in their pocket.
Speaker 3: You know, like if they did, they were really hustling.
Speaker 4: For it, you know.
Speaker 3: So they kind of take advantage of that.
Speaker 4: And yeah, you know, you could argue like these guys
Speaker 4: would have never got it going, but it just it's
Speaker 4: it also just doesn't feel a fair commodity exchange for me.
Speaker 4: I've stayed independent the entire time for that reason. Like
Speaker 4: I you know, it's never felt right for me. It
Speaker 4: never felt organic. But I also just I felt I
Speaker 4: felt like it was bad business, you know, and I'd
Speaker 4: rather bet on myself, try to bully myself and figure
Speaker 4: it out myself, you know.
Speaker 2: And I feel a good thing going with like all
Speaker 2: the Mike stud Yeah correct, Yeah, I mean it was
Speaker 2: it's just Mike now, yeah, but like Mike or Mike.
Speaker 4: It's Mike Mike. So there's no just right, but think
Speaker 4: about it, right, so the Instagram is at just Mike.
Speaker 4: But think about when you say, like when the artists
Speaker 4: like you hear a song like who is this like Mike,
Speaker 4: like Mike, who just Mike? You know. So it's like
Speaker 4: the only way to explain it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But I thought about going just Mike is the official
Speaker 4: artist name, but we went on. We went with Mike,
Speaker 4: and I'm really happy we did. Now when I think
Speaker 4: about Mike's stud I like, I literally grimace.
Speaker 3: Well I know I get that vibe too. Why is
Speaker 3: that I grimaced? Because now I'll still that's the legend
Speaker 3: of Mike Studt's pretty big.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. I was just gonna say, like prefacely
Speaker 4: quite that story like it worked, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: And I'm thankful. I don't regret it at all, because
Speaker 4: I actually don't know if it would have stuck if
Speaker 4: it didn't have like such a it's just obnoxious, like
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And it's it's kind of.
Speaker 3: Has that like very when you look like I do.
Speaker 4: Like I'm a white kid, big baseball player, but I
Speaker 4: don't look like you know, like most artists in a
Speaker 4: sense where it's just kind of feel coming from Duke
Speaker 4: just like so easy to dislike, you know, And I
Speaker 4: totally get why a lot of people kind of felt like,
Speaker 4: fuck this guy very from Duke, Like you're already in
Speaker 4: fucking bitches and drinking bud lights like this guy. You know,
Speaker 4: I understand, I understand, but like I look back at it,
Speaker 4: I'm just like, man, that was exactly who I was.
Speaker 3: It was real, you know, like, just like this is
Speaker 3: who I am.
Speaker 4: Now, and that's why I couldn't be Mike Study anymore
Speaker 4: because it wasn't real anymore, you know, like it's the
Speaker 4: same notion. And to be honest, like if you said, hey,
Speaker 4: you're gonna have a real music career, I wouldn't have
Speaker 4: picked Mike extent, you know, Like I don't know if
Speaker 4: you guys know this story.
Speaker 3: It's a pretty interesting story how the name of a
Speaker 3: came about. Yeah, this is this, that's a podcast?
Speaker 4: Are four? It's what they'refore the new stieves that might
Speaker 4: be out there might not know, right, Yeah, so I
Speaker 4: got the duke more or less like right on the
Speaker 4: heels of the Duke lacrosse scandal. Do you guys remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're rhymes with grape?
Speaker 1: Was that the situation making I want to make sure
Speaker 1: I'm not thinking of something wrong? But yes, who, I
Speaker 1: just need to know.
Speaker 3: I don't need the tools. And then we're not laughing
Speaker 3: at that. We're not laughing.
Speaker 4: No, No, Well what happened was we actually can't laugh
Speaker 4: about it because it came out that it was false.
Speaker 4: The girls in jail for murder who like who basically
Speaker 4: like it was uh, you know, it was a stripper
Speaker 4: that they.
Speaker 3: Hired locally in Durham, North Carolina.
Speaker 4: The lacrosse guys, all these affluent come from affluent families,
Speaker 4: playing lacrosse at lacrosse. Yeah, and there was there's a whole.
Speaker 4: There's a whole, like there's a whole East sixty on
Speaker 4: this entire thing. It's a crazy situation, like there was
Speaker 4: a you know, there was a we don't even have
Speaker 4: to do we don't we don't hold the whole.
Speaker 7: I don't want to get a little bit more of
Speaker 7: opinion on there's no opinion.
Speaker 4: There's no opinion. The fact of the matter is that
Speaker 4: they got they got acquitted, and and the girl ended
Speaker 4: up kind of you know, being a lie and the guy,
Speaker 4: you know, the guy that prosecuted them, there was there
Speaker 4: was a whole, there's whole East sixty on it.
Speaker 1: So it was the murder thing, a separate deal, the
Speaker 1: separate deal, and got murdered during the separation, Like.
Speaker 4: It was proven that she had other guys DNA, none
Speaker 4: of these guys DNA, and that night she saw it
Speaker 4: as an opportunity to got you you know, and then
Speaker 4: but these kids' lives were ruined, you know, like it
Speaker 4: was a pretty serious Anyways.
Speaker 3: How does Mike still come out of that?
Speaker 4: So when I get there, it's actually hilarious. I get there,
Speaker 4: you know, Uh, they have this whole this meeting where
Speaker 4: they're addressing the student athletes and they're just like, look,
Speaker 4: Doke athletes are under fire. Social media, like Facebook at
Speaker 4: the time was the thing where like people were friending
Speaker 4: the Duke athletes, like they'd have like an attractive girl
Speaker 4: as the picture, except their friend request they'd take your pictures.
Speaker 4: They take like your underage drinking pictures, post them, try
Speaker 4: to blackmail you shit like that.
Speaker 3: So it just got very it got very strict. So
Speaker 3: our work around, like we.
Speaker 4: Wanted to have Facebook and social media and ship, so
Speaker 4: we came up with fake names with our real initials,
Speaker 4: like the baseball team specifically, and we were trying to
Speaker 4: go with like funny names. So our theme was porn
Speaker 4: star names, right, so like my my real initials are
Speaker 4: you know MS. So Mike Stead was a no brainer
Speaker 4: and I thought it was a genius for it.
Speaker 3: It became like a thing. My buddies on my team,
Speaker 3: you know, we call each other, like in front of.
Speaker 4: Our coach, who was a hard ass, Like we'd call
Speaker 4: each other by our fucking fake Facebook names, which he
Speaker 4: would have had a conniption if you knew we were.
Speaker 4: We were going around the rules, you know. So that
Speaker 4: was kind of a thing. And then when I got
Speaker 4: injured and I started making some songs. The only reason
Speaker 4: I was making the songs because I had no I
Speaker 4: had nothing to do, and my buddies were like the
Speaker 4: only people ever heard me rap and ship. I was
Speaker 4: just a kid who could always freestyle and whatever at
Speaker 4: the party.
Speaker 3: Every baseball team has a white rapper, yeah, yeah, exactly
Speaker 3: a group of friends. You know, if you're do it,
Speaker 3: you're in a good fre friends.
Speaker 4: That was just me, you know, and I had a
Speaker 4: few other guys on the team that would do it.
Speaker 4: We just had so that was the only reason it happened.
Speaker 4: And it was a no brainer to call my rap
Speaker 4: name Mike's Dead because you know, all my buddy that
Speaker 4: was like part of the joke. You know, they were
Speaker 4: in on it.
Speaker 3: So that's what happened.
Speaker 4: And then fucking you know, the first song I made
Speaker 4: was the song College Humor, and it just relatively speaking,
Speaker 4: went viral at the time, and it just kind of
Speaker 4: had it like kind of pushed me down that that path,
Speaker 4: you know, And what year was that when that happened.
Speaker 4: I was twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: The brand of Mike's done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as if that happened now, it wouldn't it would
Speaker 1: have yeah, And I don't even I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what would have I wasn't hit
Speaker 1: your crew blow up, that's yeah, calling a boy before
Speaker 1: the noteboys, it kind of I have no idea what
Speaker 1: would have happened if it would have happened now.
Speaker 3: I don't even think it would have work right now.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you if the career would go
Speaker 1: the way it's going now for you, But I think
Speaker 1: the beginning part of like how many eyes are available
Speaker 1: to social media now, it probably would have got much
Speaker 1: more viral.
Speaker 3: To your point, it's it's very overcrowded now, very over
Speaker 3: That's a good point. That's a good point I put
Speaker 3: in my.
Speaker 4: Mouth exactly, Like back to the point we talked about
Speaker 4: why I like Skis, Like there's there's a million people
Speaker 4: I could that could sing better than him and dance
Speaker 4: better and more attractive and all these shout out, Dan,
Speaker 4: there's a million, you know, the dance thing that it's
Speaker 4: having a thing. It's more important because it's so it's
Speaker 4: so crowded, it's so oversaturated.
Speaker 3: Everyone's trying to do it, everyone's making music, you know,
Speaker 3: so just got.
Speaker 1: Buried for you, Like, what was your process finding music
Speaker 1: and wanting to do that other than being a professional athlete?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Literally, well I blew my knee out. Okay, that had
Speaker 3: to be it was over.
Speaker 4: I had to figure that happened a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, rolled the ankle.
Speaker 3: I figured I got to quit BACKCTE.
Speaker 4: Music.
Speaker 7: Man, I just fell in my lap. I didn't do
Speaker 7: music growing up or anything. When I moved to La,
Speaker 7: I was I was trying to be a fucking business guy.
Speaker 7: Didn't do well at all. Yeah, not good at all.
Speaker 7: Don't have the was having a blast a look. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I went into some big meetings and I was with
Speaker 7: act like I knew what I was talking about. Didn't
Speaker 7: go well, but no, Yeah, my buddies were all making
Speaker 7: music when I got to La. So I was always
Speaker 7: at the studio and one day my buddy like just
Speaker 7: didn't show up to a session that I was going
Speaker 7: to like meet meet with him, hang out, and I
Speaker 7: knew the producer and he was like, yo, go give
Speaker 7: it a shot.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: I heard you.
Speaker 7: I heard you like singing bullshitting. So I made my
Speaker 7: first record and I kind of I didn't really like start.
Speaker 7: Then I got my first real go at it about
Speaker 7: right when COVID started. I got signed to Warner Music
Speaker 7: as a songwriter, and then I started getting with these guys.
Speaker 7: And yeah, when I met Mike, we were we were
Speaker 7: just partying. He didn't even know I made music for
Speaker 7: a pretty decent amount of time there. I think that's
Speaker 7: why I worked so well though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he didn't and like to be completely transparent,
Speaker 4: like he just started releasing his own stuff. But like,
Speaker 4: we're gonna make it a thing, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like that's the whole thing. I have a great fan base.
Speaker 4: I know they're gonna eat him up. That's the whole thing.
Speaker 4: I've never really co signed anybody, right, this is what's happening.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna feature myself on his records. You know, he's
Speaker 4: gonna open my tours. He's on sitting in on the podcast.
Speaker 4: He just has the whole thing where I just the synergies.
Speaker 4: We're gonna make it a thing, you know, And I
Speaker 4: just know he can carry his weight and I know
Speaker 4: he'll evolve. And the biggest hurdle is just getting this
Speaker 4: guy to put down the put down the bottle and
Speaker 4: get in the fucking studio more often.
Speaker 3: But he's young and he's a big deal in this country. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but you can't force it. You gotta let it flow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, there's also well you're speaking kind of on
Speaker 1: both sides of your mouth right now, because in the
Speaker 1: beginning you said them nine ten a m hammered drunk.
Speaker 4: Exactly are the best one exactly?
Speaker 3: But I can't so if you're gonna drink, I don't
Speaker 3: know how to word that. Though you have to drink
Speaker 3: as well, Mike, and Holy so you're tired.
Speaker 1: We're gonna miss you, guys when you're gone.
Speaker 7: Heard after the after the mega banner, and we've been
Speaker 7: bouncing around all these all these new cities and and
Speaker 7: he's on you know, he's a monk now that way.
Speaker 3: Cows and now meditation. He gets a very cool road.
Speaker 3: He's me roaming around and getting ready to go out,
Speaker 3: and he's just looking at me. He's like, all right, Jesus, figure,
Speaker 3: people do get a little sober.
Speaker 4: And then they made the choice.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna drink this week and then all their
Speaker 1: buddies drinking. They're like, you piece of ship's I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna hear You's true, that's so true.
Speaker 3: Somehow I turned into like the disappointed dad.
Speaker 4: In the house.
Speaker 3: That's why he said he can't do somewhere. You got
Speaker 3: to clean it up.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 7: You gotta knows to the hardwood man you go on tomorrow.
Speaker 7: But he knows, he knows, man like he sent me
Speaker 7: out into the battlefield like on his behalf.
Speaker 4: So it's like the torch.
Speaker 3: He's just a fact.
Speaker 4: My wife. Yeah, I need to work more. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't do that very well. I'm not a great
Speaker 3: work dream of yours to be uh an artist ship?
Speaker 4: It is now answer opening?
Speaker 3: Are you opening for just Mike?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, And I'm just right, and I'm only opening
Speaker 4: for Mike. Throwing him into the fire, you know, like
Speaker 4: it's it's uh.
Speaker 1: He got a little nervous when there were ten guys
Speaker 1: in the room, just seeing a little bit of drops Jupiter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I don't do it for the fellows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, you do for the lady.
Speaker 1: For the lady, boy, I didn't think it on board
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 3: Well, well, first one snapping back there.
Speaker 4: I love a guy who was gonna have the same
Speaker 4: He's gonna have the same, you know. I see a
Speaker 4: lot of That's kind of how I was, Like, I
Speaker 4: didn't know what the hell I was doing. I just
Speaker 4: got up on stage and like figured it out, figured
Speaker 4: out how my approach was to performing. I used I
Speaker 4: banter so much on stage, like it's not a normal
Speaker 4: music show. I'm bringing people up with drinking beers, Like
Speaker 4: I'm still gonna do all that, you know. So I
Speaker 4: see him kind of walking that path. The difference is
Speaker 4: I was starting with fifty one hundred people. This is
Speaker 4: gonna be like two to five thousand.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: So honestly, I think I'm more nervous doing karaoke in
Speaker 7: front of fifty than I will be in front of you.
Speaker 3: There's less eyes question.
Speaker 7: This fucker can't just be looking at me dead in
Speaker 7: my eyes, like right, you're gonna miss that note?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't say, oh my god, what are your emotions
Speaker 3: going into this thing?
Speaker 4: Your first show?
Speaker 3: It's gonna be your first show.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, I'm excited, man, I mean
Speaker 7: I'm I'm super grateful though, you know, Mike, Mike pulled
Speaker 7: me out of a fucking He pulled me out of
Speaker 7: a situation I was not gonna be doing what the
Speaker 7: fuck was I gonna be doing. I'll probably be doing
Speaker 7: insurance again.
Speaker 3: I'd be doing it well in Omaha.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have gone back on the boys go
Speaker 4: big Round.
Speaker 3: And you grew up in Nebraska.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've really made it out of the treasure on
Speaker 1: Earth man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well we can go that route too. I
Speaker 3: love it manywhere I.
Speaker 4: Want right now.
Speaker 3: It's a simple guy, simple things, you know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Man, I'm glad I got Yeah, I'm glad he
Speaker 7: pulled me out of the out of l a when
Speaker 7: when he was getting on the road, he was buddies
Speaker 7: with all the kids, all like the really handsome young
Speaker 7: like TikTok at that time, it was.
Speaker 4: Vine like the love Vine Fellas all that good like
Speaker 4: good guys, but they were all the stars. The Skis
Speaker 4: was just like the good good times guy around, you know,
Speaker 4: so like he never really even saw himself and that
Speaker 4: that's what I like.
Speaker 3: The whole thing attracted me to it, you know, I
Speaker 3: just he's not one of those dudes.
Speaker 4: Was like, hey, look at me, but everyone ends up
Speaker 4: looking at him, you know what I mean, where that's
Speaker 4: where I see it.
Speaker 3: I'm not really has to be that perfect thing, and
Speaker 3: where I.
Speaker 1: Feel like I feel like it is that, you know,
Speaker 1: so I agree with that statement when we when I
Speaker 1: first walked in here. A couple of minutes later, I
Speaker 1: apologize big league. Yes, Skis is in here, like, who
Speaker 1: fucking just this? No, No, he was just showing out.
Speaker 1: He was on the entire room. The two were having
Speaker 1: a little bromance about Nebraska. We were talking about the
Speaker 1: bust and Bowl coming soon. This this fall that you
Speaker 1: guys are fucking killing it. I want to want to
Speaker 1: point out. I mean, my first time I came, I
Speaker 1: was extremely hungover.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, tough.
Speaker 4: Look Johnny Manzell was in town, so that will tell
Speaker 4: you exactly what the fuck was going over.
Speaker 3: I mean, not to blame it on him, I was.
Speaker 4: We were on like a pretty sick one finishing the
Speaker 4: album in Nashville at the time, and I was sweating
Speaker 4: my balls off on I don't know what kind of
Speaker 4: like situation, you guys.
Speaker 3: It was not very murky, was not comfortable. It was
Speaker 3: not comfortable. At one point I almost turned in and
Speaker 3: she's like, I gotta get out of here.
Speaker 4: I didn't thought it was you know. I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't know, but I gotta go. I gotta go, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I was giving me the yeah, there's levels levels.
Speaker 1: Hey we have a new bigger shed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to like give spiritual input into like
Speaker 4: the Johnny Manziel situation. I'm even on the couch, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But it was, it was it
Speaker 4: was a great experience. Got to meet you guys. We
Speaker 4: had been talking for a while, but since since then,
Speaker 4: like you've been following me, I've been paying a lot
Speaker 4: more attention to you guys.
Speaker 3: It just seems like you're climbing the ranks constantly.
Speaker 1: We're going Baby Wheel was like, Bro, that that's like,
Speaker 1: that's the thing.
Speaker 4: That one come on.
Speaker 3: I mean, if they need a quarterback Nebraska Scott, regardless.
Speaker 1: Of regardless of who's gonna win that game, Like that
Speaker 1: might not be like the like the most financially driven
Speaker 1: thing we've done, but it might be the coolest.
Speaker 3: Thing we've ever done.
Speaker 4: Who cares about the money?
Speaker 3: One schools like fight over something that we just decided.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a cool idea and they do with it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's coolest ship it's now. I don't think there's a
Speaker 1: chance in helling the Nebrasco wins. I think they have
Speaker 1: amazing facilities that think Scott Frost is unbelievable. They have
Speaker 1: a really gordy go hard on the defense, Garrett Nelson,
Speaker 1: you want to do that, do.
Speaker 3: Feed into it. We're gonna trying to get started. Why
Speaker 3: are we doing this?
Speaker 1: I do think I do think Nebraska will dominate for
Speaker 1: the next eight years. But I think it'll be awesome
Speaker 1: to have the bust and bowl and an arbor for
Speaker 1: eight I think it'll be unbelievable and I think it'll
Speaker 1: be great for maybe not for our relationship, but like
Speaker 1: the all of this right now for sure.
Speaker 3: You guys got to get the Nebraska audience going. That's
Speaker 3: a performing in Lincoln or Omaha.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, we need to holler at us. We'll do
Speaker 7: the bust and ball, have to We'll do the We'll
Speaker 7: do the no, we'll do the drops, the Juba and no.
Speaker 7: I need to do it, man, I need to do
Speaker 7: in the uh what's it called the Jesus Christ not American?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the neck I'm not American anymore.
Speaker 3: See, Okay.
Speaker 1: I was talking to one of my friends at the
Speaker 1: Bust and yeah, that'd be outstanding. I was talking to
Speaker 1: one of my friends who's made it up very high
Speaker 1: in the ranks of music, and I was talking to
Speaker 1: him like he was for the World Series when the
Speaker 1: Braves was and they wanted him to come see sing
Speaker 1: the national anthem. And he's like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do it. And I was like, why would you not
Speaker 1: want to? He's like, because if I do it, it's fine.
Speaker 1: Look I did it here. I am boom. If I
Speaker 1: mess up, you're freezing.
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no oh.
Speaker 1: You don't believe in what I just said. No, you're
Speaker 1: not subscribing to.
Speaker 4: The messing it up? Who cares?
Speaker 7: It's it's not a respect thing to you know. I
Speaker 7: just I can't sing that well. Yeah, but I love
Speaker 7: the I love the game.
Speaker 4: I think if you smoke it with a dangling cigarette
Speaker 4: and cigarette got out and hey this was yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's not gonna go well, you can't lose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you dive in with that insurance policy you
Speaker 1: were insurance. If you put that insurance mostly of a
Speaker 1: I'm not that great. I'm not the people go, hey,
Speaker 1: it's not bad.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: On top of that, Michel Simpson.
Speaker 1: You can have the crown, Hey, ain't that bad?
Speaker 3: And that we can do a little.
Speaker 7: Insider trading action and you bet the overs on how
Speaker 7: long the national anthem goes.
Speaker 1: I'm all about white.
Speaker 7: I like to tail are taking the overs, telling everybody
Speaker 7: right now if I do a national anthem, take the overs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, drag that thing on. I know, my god,
Speaker 3: that's hilarious, dude, to get back on you, Mike. They
Speaker 3: this is my this is supposed to be.
Speaker 2: But I'm curious, like when and why did it trans
Speaker 2: start the transition from mike'stud.
Speaker 1: To just oh yeah, I'm so glad you brought that
Speaker 1: back up.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So, if I'm being completely honest, I fully could
Speaker 4: probably you know, he could tell ye I said this.
Speaker 4: We probably started talking about the idea of switching maybe
Speaker 4: five six years ago, right, and it was I knew
Speaker 4: I was going to do it.
Speaker 3: I just didn't know when, you know, And.
Speaker 4: I'm a big like like I said, I kind of
Speaker 4: just let it flow and when it feels right, But
Speaker 4: I was I really started to take a step back
Speaker 4: on the mic stud releases. I was working on a
Speaker 4: new sound. I you know, I invested in my own studio,
Speaker 4: my home. I started, you know, like like I said,
Speaker 4: I started getting the reps and it was like a
Speaker 4: tough time because from the outside looking in, everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 4: he's falling off, like it's over, you know, like he
Speaker 4: had a good little run like the college white rapper,
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, and everyone else in that space that
Speaker 4: I shared that space with kind of did fall off
Speaker 4: in that sense, like he had a little run in
Speaker 4: and uh, I kind of just was invested in in
Speaker 4: trying to create a sound, you know, and and figure
Speaker 4: out what it was going to be. What was it
Speaker 4: because the old thing just didn't feel didn't even feel
Speaker 4: synonymous to me anymore as a person one and two,
Speaker 4: Like that sound itself has ran its course, where like
Speaker 4: hip hop music had evolved and evolved past what that
Speaker 4: sound was really. So you know, i'd say we we dropped.
Speaker 4: We We did the actual announcement and the rebrand in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty. Right made the decision in twenty eighteen, early
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen, and I was just working on these records.
Speaker 3: A big guy during that time that came into my
Speaker 3: life and gave me.
Speaker 4: That gave me the confidence in what I was doing
Speaker 4: was post malone. He you know, we we had shared.
Speaker 4: We shared like producers. The producer that I found and
Speaker 4: got signed and brought out became his producer. We started
Speaker 4: frequenting the studio and seeing each other a lot. Became buddies,
Speaker 4: good buddies, and he, you know, there was a there
Speaker 4: was a moment in time where I was really I was,
Speaker 4: I was going to sign with him and signed to
Speaker 4: him business wise, is just it just wasn't right for me,
Speaker 4: you know, But it didn't really go there. But what
Speaker 4: I will say is he he gave me a lot
Speaker 4: of confidence at that time and what I was working
Speaker 4: on because no one in the public had heard it,
Speaker 4: and it was this kind of new sound.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what you would call the genre
Speaker 3: of music that I'm making.
Speaker 7: It.
Speaker 4: It's definitely not like rap. It's not country, but it's
Speaker 4: kind of taking the ambiond of some country music.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but it's I was. I hadn't really
Speaker 3: shared it with anyone. I knew it was good. I
Speaker 3: knew I liked it. My buddies liked it.
Speaker 4: And that's really the gauge for me, but someone at
Speaker 4: that stature kind of going on record with me and saying, hey,
Speaker 4: I really fucked with this.
Speaker 3: That really helped, like personally, and I've.
Speaker 4: Told him that, you know, and uh, just kind of
Speaker 4: getting over the hump of like, yeah, this is exactly
Speaker 4: what it's supposed to be, you know, so probably.
Speaker 2: Nervous getting over there, like leaving the hip hop whateverbod
Speaker 2: I thought of you as.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, like I'm gonna be I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be candid, you know, Like there was definitely a time
Speaker 4: where I felt like I was, you know, I was
Speaker 4: taking steps backwards, like I was in these nights, like
Speaker 4: I said, grandiose studios with great producers and you know,
Speaker 4: like the whole I was I was the guy, you know,
Speaker 4: and then I'm back in my room in my house,
Speaker 4: working alone, trying to figure out looking googling how to
Speaker 4: fucking do shortcuts on pro tools, trying to figure out
Speaker 4: how to do it myself. And it was like a
Speaker 4: gut check time, you know, but like kind of what
Speaker 4: life is about, man, you know, I really felt when
Speaker 4: I look back at that time, like man, I like
Speaker 4: kind of became who I am now, became a man
Speaker 4: because I was like, you know, I was kind of
Speaker 4: back against the wall, and I feel like those are
Speaker 4: the times where you really kind of figure out who
Speaker 4: you are, you know, and and that's what this was
Speaker 4: for me, Like you know, it was it was kind
Speaker 4: of a it was a double down on yourself type situation.
Speaker 4: And most people, yeah, most people frowned upon it. Not
Speaker 4: my immediate friends because they got it like, well they
Speaker 4: might have just do set it to you. No, they would,
Speaker 4: they would, That's why they're here. Yeah, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: like my guys will tell me anything, like it's not
Speaker 4: that situation one know. But like I had plenty of
Speaker 4: people be like I don't know, man, like Mike says,
Speaker 4: is still doing good making make it like it was
Speaker 4: still It was like even my my money guys, my
Speaker 4: financial guys or lawyers, like this is this is a
Speaker 4: sustainable business. It's growing still. It's an increments and small
Speaker 4: but like they don't get it. Like I knew for
Speaker 4: a fact this is the this is the long winded answer,
Speaker 4: but this is really the answer. I know for a
Speaker 4: fact being in LA and being in the game, and
Speaker 4: I was paying attention to like I had one manager
Speaker 4: at the time who came on, who's very much an
Speaker 4: in person in the industry, and I know what the
Speaker 4: statement attached to Mike's said was, Oh.
Speaker 3: That's not like college rapper, kind of like douchey, you know,
Speaker 3: like that was cool.
Speaker 4: I fuck with that, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like it was that like there was a
Speaker 3: very low ceiling to what it could be.
Speaker 4: And you know, additionally, I'm just changing as a person,
Speaker 4: as a human being, and I just I don't even
Speaker 4: feel connected to Mike's stud anymore as a man. You know,
Speaker 4: I became from a fucking boy to a man, like
Speaker 4: I was a fucking kid when I did that, you know,
Speaker 4: so all of those factors combined made it I literally
Speaker 4: couldn't continue as is. So then it became what's it
Speaker 4: going to be? Mike, you know. And then the records,
Speaker 4: you know, I knew, I knew the records were cool,
Speaker 4: you know, so I just kind of we start to
Speaker 4: roll it out.
Speaker 3: We made a plan for the top of twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: It was supposed to do a deal with Post. I've
Speaker 4: actually never really said that. People know, some people know,
Speaker 4: some of my fans know. But the pandemic comes around
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, and like I'm supposed to go out on
Speaker 4: tour with him. He's not touring, you know, so it
Speaker 4: kind of made this It kind of almost forced the hand,
Speaker 4: like I'm just gonna do this, rebrand myself and.
Speaker 3: We can we can reconvene on that.
Speaker 1: When you say it didn't align it from a business standpoint,
Speaker 1: that's what That's what it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it was like kind of the contingency and
Speaker 4: like the most appealing thing to me was like getting out,
Speaker 4: Like the opportunity I'm giving skis right. Justin Bieber did
Speaker 4: that for Posts, Like Posts had a few records out.
Speaker 4: Bieber put him out. He's just singing, singing to arenas
Speaker 4: full of people, you know, Post killing him and Post
Speaker 4: is just an outlier talent anyway, Like he didn't need
Speaker 4: Justin Bieber to do it. Justin Bieber just saw what
Speaker 4: he was out of the gate in the audience said fuck,
Speaker 4: let's go, you know.
Speaker 3: But that was kind of the idea, Like the biggest
Speaker 3: thing I needed from him.
Speaker 4: Yes, we have some songs together too, now getting them
Speaker 4: out is another thing being an independent artist in him
Speaker 4: being one of the biggest pop artists in the world.
Speaker 4: But we have one incredible record that I think if
Speaker 4: I could get out, it would be my first true hit,
Speaker 4: you know. So that's still on deck, you know. But yeah,
Speaker 4: like the pandemic kind of forced a hand, and I
Speaker 4: really thank god that it didn't happen the way it did, because,
Speaker 4: you know, we're just we're having such a good time
Speaker 4: running the business and doing it the way we are,
Speaker 4: and now that the numbers have grown, when you have
Speaker 4: the ownership, like, there's a lot of cool things happening,
Speaker 4: and it can be really lucrative in a way where
Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily having to get exponentially more famous to
Speaker 4: make exponentially more money. Yeah, I'd rather have less fame,
Speaker 4: way less fame. The fame is the least cool part
Speaker 4: for me. I'd rather be sustainable, you know, be doing
Speaker 4: really well, taking care of my family and friends, but
Speaker 4: not necessarily having a fucking jump through hoops.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that whole that whole question of what would rather
Speaker 1: have fame or money? It's kind of a it's a
Speaker 1: difficult question at times. The first thought is is money,
Speaker 1: But with fame, you can monetize that to make it money.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Fame intern can be money, and that's really when we
Speaker 4: talk about the record label paradigm, that's what they're doing.
Speaker 4: That's the commodity exchange. We're gonna make you so much
Speaker 4: more popular and notable. Your notoriety, your namesake will go
Speaker 4: the value will go so high that everything you do
Speaker 4: becomes money. I show up here, get twenty grand. Hey, hey,
Speaker 4: hold this thing in your fucking Instagram posts. You guys
Speaker 4: know the game, you know, like everything becomes money as
Speaker 4: your notoriety goes up.
Speaker 3: For me, I'm just not that type of dude.
Speaker 4: I don't really fucking I'm not mad if you come
Speaker 4: up and say hello, I'll be the guy who talked
Speaker 4: to you all.
Speaker 3: Day, you know, But I'm not Hey, how I'm gonna
Speaker 3: give it?
Speaker 4: How are you back? You know? But I don't really
Speaker 4: necessarily want to do a bunch of bullshit. I don't
Speaker 4: really I don't care about attention or fame at all. Really,
Speaker 4: And actually, if I take inventory of how I feel,
Speaker 4: I don't don't even really feel comfortable, you know, like
Speaker 4: it's not what gets my rocks off. You know. I
Speaker 4: love going out on stage. That's different, you know, like
Speaker 4: there's a connection that these fans are there for me.
Speaker 4: They've been fucking supporting me. I made this music, they
Speaker 4: connect with it. That's awesome. That's different. But I'm talking
Speaker 4: about going on this talk show and doing this, you know,
Speaker 4: and doing that, Like it's just not it's not what
Speaker 4: it is for me.
Speaker 3: No, it's not what it's about for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no question.
Speaker 1: This is huge, boys, Yeah, this is probably make more
Speaker 1: famous than anything this. We have massive numbers now I'm
Speaker 1: going this, Yeah, no question ahead. Sorry, I want to
Speaker 1: ask that one question about you and Post having an
Speaker 1: album together. You don't talk about like the necessary hoops
Speaker 1: you have to jump through, but like, what are hoops
Speaker 1: that you have to jump through when you're an independent
Speaker 1: artist with the biggest pop star in the world, Like
Speaker 1: how Like Yeah for me, I'm like, fuck, I'd love
Speaker 1: to hear that. Yeah, Like that's awesome. A love Post
Speaker 1: love you, Like, why wouldn't that be the greatest thing ever?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Just the business of it is essentially like when
Speaker 4: you sign a record deal, they more or less own
Speaker 4: your voice certain extent.
Speaker 3: So everything's just like you know, if.
Speaker 4: I'm an independent artist, I have to hop in bed
Speaker 4: and do business with the record label to put those
Speaker 4: songs out. Now, I'm willing to you know, I'm willing to,
Speaker 4: but these record labels have huge rosters with huge schedules,
Speaker 4: and Post is their biggest cash cow.
Speaker 3: They're working on his album, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So it's it's kind of a I'm more what's good
Speaker 4: is I have the only reason this even happened is
Speaker 4: because we're buddies. So Post has a strong enough voice
Speaker 4: to say, fuck it, we're doing this, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. So that that's what I'm That's really what
Speaker 4: I'm going to need for it to see the light
Speaker 4: of day. And if it doesn't come out, you guys
Speaker 4: know Post didn't do that, so go.
Speaker 3: You know, it's on Posts.
Speaker 1: We'll have them on I'll call him right after this.
Speaker 4: But no, man, he's like the best guy ever. Really
Speaker 4: like we had it was a moment in time he
Speaker 4: was becoming very, very famous. He was a neighbor of
Speaker 4: mine in Los Angeles. I mean, we spent so much
Speaker 4: fucking time together and it was just had had a
Speaker 4: great experience and then we made some a lot of
Speaker 4: great songs together, you know, a handful of great songs together.
Speaker 4: So to answer your question, it's kind of up in
Speaker 4: the it's up in the air. It's all on Post Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's all on Post Yeah.
Speaker 2: Some of those things for us, like an uh independent artist,
Speaker 2: Like there's some non negotiables that you can't You're like,
Speaker 2: I understand that's how it usually is or traditionally is done.
Speaker 3: I just can't the thing. I'm not going to sign
Speaker 3: my name on the dotal line and do something like that.
Speaker 3: I'm not even like one of those dudes like power
Speaker 3: to the people, fuck the label, you.
Speaker 4: Know, Like it hasn't felt right for me for me
Speaker 4: to do a deal, and I know I could, I
Speaker 4: could say not with one hundred percent certainty, but I'm
Speaker 4: not going to do a record deal for me. You know.
Speaker 4: What I will say is like I have no problem
Speaker 4: doing record deal one off record deals for songs, you know.
Speaker 4: So I don't want to answer the question like I
Speaker 4: don't want to give them a piece of my overall business. Ever,
Speaker 4: I won't do that, you know, like like all my
Speaker 4: songs and everything I do going forward, that's where it
Speaker 4: gets messy, you know. But if every that's what I
Speaker 4: mean by getting in bed with his label, Like I'll
Speaker 4: do whatever because I know the value of doing a
Speaker 4: record with Post Malone, Like I know what and I
Speaker 4: just love the song. I want the song songs called
Speaker 4: die Bar. It's like an amazing song, you know, so
Speaker 4: it's it would just be really cool, and I know
Speaker 4: Post loves it.
Speaker 3: We went out for his birthday. I went out there.
Speaker 4: I just wrote and wrote the song and he heard
Speaker 4: it and he just fucking sang it right there and
Speaker 4: writing a fucking Airbnb that I had at the time
Speaker 4: in Utah, in Park City, Utah.
Speaker 3: So beautiful spot I've heard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's beautiful. Yes, we spent That was where like
Speaker 4: the whole no mad thing happened. I that was when
Speaker 4: COVID started. I went to when you were on the
Speaker 4: snow the snow area, Yeah that's and oh that was Montana, Yeah, Montana,
Speaker 4: but I went, I went it was Yellowstone before yellow
Speaker 4: Snow Area.
Speaker 3: That was tough fucking job. We just all brushed over
Speaker 3: it though, like it was nothing that I knew exactly.
Speaker 3: I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean we went right when COVID started,
Speaker 4: went out, it was his birthday. We sat out there
Speaker 4: for a few months in Utah, and that was what
Speaker 4: opened my eyes. I was like, I gotta get the
Speaker 4: fuck out of Lam. I just felt better every day
Speaker 4: waking up, you know, it was like a literally like
Speaker 4: a just in the air felt better.
Speaker 3: So that that was kind of what pushed me over
Speaker 3: the edge. We sold the sold and left and we
Speaker 3: were on our way.
Speaker 1: When you're on the outside looking in on l A,
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, it seems beautiful, definitely hills, all the
Speaker 1: beautiful people, green weather, beaches and stuff like that. But
Speaker 1: the more time you spend there, the more people you
Speaker 1: hear talk about it's like kind of tough, but there
Speaker 1: are people that love it. Like Brendon shab was on
Speaker 1: the podcast and he said, he's like, you get what
Speaker 1: you pay for with the taxes.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. Look like, I don't know what Rogan's talking about.
Speaker 2: He doesn't fucking yeah, he doesn't encounter any of the
Speaker 2: bullshit he says, Yeah, Yeah, Brennan's.
Speaker 3: My fucking guy.
Speaker 4: He's the man.
Speaker 3: I mean he uh.
Speaker 4: It's it's like I think it was THEO Vaughn who
Speaker 4: said he said this really well. He said he likened
Speaker 4: it to a layover. Yeah, in LA it's like you go,
Speaker 4: you're not there for forever, You're not staying there, you know,
Speaker 4: and like everyone's kind of going there and trying to
Speaker 4: get something from the place. And it's not to say
Speaker 4: like the people like individually, like there's a lot of
Speaker 4: great people there. Like when people say other people suck
Speaker 4: in la like it's it's not like fair to give
Speaker 4: it a blanket generalize everybody. Yeah, it's not a blanket
Speaker 4: statement thing whatsoever, but the general vibe, it's kind of
Speaker 4: like it doesn't have a comfort, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: there's no like comfort. Everyone's like trying to scale the
Speaker 4: wall and get higher. And oh, like the girl even
Speaker 4: girls like oh was that Beaver's last night? And Gezi's
Speaker 4: and then like it's just like always and and like
Speaker 4: it's legitimate because if they fuck around and you know,
Speaker 4: fuck Geezy that night, who he's fucking everyone and.
Speaker 3: And just know he means it, Yeah, and he means it.
Speaker 4: He's a good dude, great dude. But like there's there's
Speaker 4: opportunity there for these women. Not maybe maybe Jesus isn't
Speaker 4: the best example, but like you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: We'll say Geezy, but we don't mean Jesus. I don't
Speaker 3: even mean it.
Speaker 4: It's just yeah, like literally like there's opportunity for I mean,
Speaker 4: we talk about attention being monetized. Like I know girls
Speaker 4: that went out there were twenty thousand followers and got
Speaker 4: two million. Is because they dated a few guys. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, So like that's a real
Speaker 4: thing too, and could do that. It's just like the
Speaker 4: style of the well I'm that's what me and Micro
Speaker 4: doing right now.
Speaker 3: He d Kardashian for a couple of weeks. It's over
Speaker 3: Mic right now.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's putting me on.
Speaker 3: My numbers are going up, and I'm gonna get it
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna go pick up Jeezy.
Speaker 4: Once I'm done.
Speaker 3: I'm on a world tour. It might be a little
Speaker 3: rough with you though, you never know.
Speaker 4: You know, what I'm saying is always greener.
Speaker 7: It's just the style out there in La Man. I
Speaker 7: mean you said, all right, individually, people can be great.
Speaker 7: I have a ton of friends out there. I miss
Speaker 7: it out there, but it's like the style of like
Speaker 7: the social life is just not not for me, you know.
Speaker 1: I feel like that can be said for most bake
Speaker 1: cities in a way that like you know, those just
Speaker 1: pass over people, Like if your life's a movie and
Speaker 1: you're just walking down the street, there's people you're gonna
Speaker 1: see that you never are gonna see again. Then you
Speaker 1: go into these bars and you meet people and it's
Speaker 1: like I know this person, I know that person, I'm
Speaker 1: fucking this person.
Speaker 4: Whatever.
Speaker 1: But the more you like kind of dive in. This
Speaker 1: is kind of how it was for me in Nashville
Speaker 1: when I first get here, your first round draft pick,
Speaker 1: and everybody wants to tell you who they know or
Speaker 1: how basically giving them your resume of why you guys
Speaker 1: should be friends, right, and then you kind of think, oh, man,
Speaker 1: Nashville is just a superficial town and it's no close
Speaker 1: to LA. But I feel like New York's like that,
Speaker 1: like that National is becoming that. But the more you
Speaker 1: live in a spot, the more you're exactly what you're
Speaker 1: saying is you find those people you're will comptence where
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, these are my fucking boy.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, I mean yeah, I was in I was
Speaker 7: in LA for like five or six years, and I
Speaker 7: was like, you know, when I left, I had the
Speaker 7: same core friend group. Sure, I made a bunch of
Speaker 7: other friends, but I had the same core you know,
Speaker 7: ten fifteen dudes that I hung out with. And then
Speaker 7: as I'm like watching all the all the homegirls that
Speaker 7: I made, like they're on their thirtieth friend group, like
Speaker 7: over the five or six years, you know they're on.
Speaker 1: I think women have a much tougher time than then
Speaker 1: when it comes back to friendships in.
Speaker 4: La, it's it's tough, bro's you know, you'll get chewed
Speaker 4: up and spit out quick.
Speaker 1: It's a tough lit area, big glasses, not wearing a
Speaker 1: lot of clothes, got to stand shape.
Speaker 4: Everybody's tall. Well, how about you go to will for
Speaker 4: a second. How is tell us about being a new
Speaker 4: father man, We're we're in.
Speaker 2: The trenches a little bit. I know it's not everybody
Speaker 2: says it gets worse. So I'm just always prepared for
Speaker 2: the worst home for the best type of thing. But
Speaker 2: sleep is minimal. But it's been awesome, bro, Like my wife,
Speaker 2: she's been crushing Charles's been shout out trying no free
Speaker 2: shot to trow she's been crushing it.
Speaker 3: We've been communicating well, like we're just like a team
Speaker 3: dude and baby. Yeah, sirule and I almost forget her day. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I'm just saying, like, you know, you kind of
Speaker 3: don't know, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like both of you are kind of sitting there. You know,
Speaker 1: you're not going to know how to approach the situation.
Speaker 1: Like we're we feel like we've we like prepare for
Speaker 1: certain things that happen. If it doesn't happen, here's playing,
Speaker 1: b here's playing. See, here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: We talk ahead of time like it's just been awesome, dude,
Speaker 2: Like she'll take a like a look, we went to
Speaker 2: Tennessee yesterday, so I was going all the University of Tennessee,
Speaker 2: the University of Tennessee for a bus and spring tour.
Speaker 2: You should all take like the first half of the
Speaker 2: night shift, like yesterday, I took like the second half
Speaker 2: because I know I'll be up, I'll be gone all
Speaker 2: day and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: We get back, I take the baby. But your fatherhood
Speaker 1: has been awesome. It's been a little bit of a grind.
Speaker 1: But yeah, she's a stud. She cries sometimes a little
Speaker 1: too much, and you.
Speaker 4: Guys, yeah, tell her to shut up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll whisper in her ear. You stuck her too
Speaker 1: much yet I haven't shook her too much. Like, hey,
Speaker 1: you gotta take this passive fire motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Well it's in the morning.
Speaker 1: Take the god, damn past Will I will Now.
Speaker 3: What I will say is I respect how you've been
Speaker 3: monetizing the baby. Dude, monetize the baby. We texted about this.
Speaker 1: It's a very a lot of different opinions about monetizing baby,
Speaker 1: and I'm respecting.
Speaker 4: You should have go with it.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 7: You should have heard how he said. We were talking about, Well, yo, will,
Speaker 7: you're gonna come to the show on the nineteenth. He
Speaker 7: goes a man like, I got this thing. You're talking
Speaker 7: about your baby. You have a father, and you got
Speaker 7: this new thing I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm a dad.
Speaker 3: Now she'll enjoyed the show.
Speaker 1: Bringers, we have to you know, hold her up her
Speaker 1: on stage, monetize the baby. We put a chuck but
Speaker 1: in her hand.
Speaker 4: I mean that's how that's how you rationalize it to
Speaker 4: the wife said, fucking feed her?
Speaker 3: You know? Do you like? You like this home? We
Speaker 3: got a new opportunity, maybe can make its own income.
Speaker 3: Now you're winning. You're sitting costs right, you're bringing three
Speaker 3: incomes now exactly.
Speaker 2: But it's been awesome, man, it's uh, it's definitely new
Speaker 2: learning stuff every day with it. But you yes, Rulian's
Speaker 2: been awesome and knock on wood that she stays pretty
Speaker 2: dope about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but uh it's been good, bro.
Speaker 1: And the baby's crazy with with When my first kid,
Speaker 1: that first couple of weeks, I remember just being in
Speaker 1: the corner of a room to kind of like take
Speaker 1: away all outside like influences of her keeping her up
Speaker 1: and just like standing and just kind of like rocking her.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I sit there and do that steady and just like
Speaker 2: kind of like just waiting after a night sing her
Speaker 2: a couple of mics, so just sing whatever song's coming over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like if we're texting, it would be a mic
Speaker 3: song or something.
Speaker 4: But it's like getting.
Speaker 2: And when I'm sitting there and I'm getting like you know,
Speaker 2: whether it's frustration or not just being tired. But I'll
Speaker 2: sit there and just think to myself, like, Yo, this
Speaker 2: is gonna be the only time I have like my
Speaker 2: firstborn kid in my hand. So like everybody says, change
Speaker 2: the extra diaper, like do all this stuff, I have
Speaker 2: embrace as much as the bullshit as you can because
Speaker 2: it only happened one time. Not to like, you know,
Speaker 2: put the second child behind the eight ball, but the
Speaker 2: first new the only newborn, the first I'll ever have,
Speaker 2: and it's like, you've got to enjoy those times.
Speaker 1: You do get a little cocky at the second child.
Speaker 1: I think this before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I'm a mess. I'm the fourth ye boy,
Speaker 4: have two kids?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you the fourth the fourth guy. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 3: like the fourth one.
Speaker 1: The lady is like, don't even come on whenever, just
Speaker 1: don't figured out. Yeah, he's like, keeping you alive.
Speaker 7: It's any cigarettes. When'm tired, He's like, here, just get
Speaker 7: out there. Man, you're pussing me all.
Speaker 3: It makes more sense now why Mike's kind of fothering you.
Speaker 3: You got need someone, need to actually ship together. It
Speaker 3: was time. I needed directly said it was time.
Speaker 4: It would have it could have.
Speaker 3: Gone off the train and could have got off the tracks.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, dude.
Speaker 3: You guys been making some headlines. Yeah, I actually stoked
Speaker 3: to have you on.
Speaker 2: Like the day after all of the headlines of Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 2: he came on the You Never Know podcast.
Speaker 3: Go download, subscribe to it. It's phenomenal.
Speaker 4: It's great.
Speaker 3: Listen to that whole episode.
Speaker 2: Yes, but yeah, you guys been making some waves out there,
Speaker 2: some highs or lows depending on how you see.
Speaker 4: I saw you too.
Speaker 3: The twitter as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my thought was kind of when I was listening
Speaker 1: he said, was it would you say, like, are you,
Speaker 1: uh fe disrespected?
Speaker 4: Someone's got to ask the hard question. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 4: I'm talking to myself. Once you askedaid, oh, you know,
Speaker 4: you know that's gonna go.
Speaker 1: But it's an obvious question to ask in the situation
Speaker 1: Baker's in, like anybody, and everybody's gonna feel disrespected.
Speaker 3: I agree, but yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, look me me And the thing with my
Speaker 4: podcast is like, you know, obviously I'm a musician first,
Speaker 4: and you know, got got a lot of business stuff
Speaker 4: going on, and the podcast is actually one of the
Speaker 4: most free and easy things for me. Like I don't
Speaker 4: It's just another thing in our world, and I love
Speaker 4: doing it. I love sitting down and having conversations with people.
Speaker 4: I love it, you know, And I feel like nowadays
Speaker 4: you don't really get the chance to just if the
Speaker 4: cameras weren't on, Like we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Speaker 3: Someone your wife would call something, you know.
Speaker 4: What I mean, Like, yeah, it's just that that thing,
Speaker 4: you know, and you more in the moment, right, And
Speaker 4: I have a great I have a great group of buddies,
Speaker 4: like whether it's because I have the athlete background or
Speaker 4: just I think the athletes gravitated to my music more
Speaker 4: so than any other group of people. So you know,
Speaker 4: I've cultivated a really cool network and it felt like
Speaker 4: a no brainer to do the podcast. And like this example,
Speaker 4: I just went on Instagram and talked about it a
Speaker 4: little bit because everyone's just like it pisses me off,
Speaker 4: you know, I get I get pissed off with like
Speaker 4: sports media. I know you guys are technically technically sports
Speaker 4: media in a way. Don't put us in that fucking
Speaker 4: you're not though you're not. I was just I was
Speaker 4: just gonna say, though you guys hear that clicks. It's
Speaker 4: the same thing though, like you guys are at you
Speaker 4: guys are, You're one of them, so they that's why
Speaker 4: you guys are winning. And you're getting more and more
Speaker 4: guys coming on and just having real conversations because they
Speaker 4: don't want to go sit across from fucking skip baylists
Speaker 4: and get pride and my get pride for answers and
Speaker 4: clickbait and things, and and like my, what bothers me
Speaker 4: about it? Is like we had a ninety minute conversation,
Speaker 4: and I thought it shined an incredible light on him
Speaker 4: who he is. I love Baker, like he's one of
Speaker 4: my good friends, and and you know, just to see that,
Speaker 4: like it's just such a clear story that that what
Speaker 4: what the media does? You know? Like they took fucking
Speaker 4: two soundbites that were like ten fifteen seconds long, and
Speaker 4: in the same breath he goes like when he said disrespected,
Speaker 4: like he goes, but that's part of the business, right,
Speaker 4: in the same breath.
Speaker 1: Well, and the same thing with him in the cubicle
Speaker 1: saying the cubicle thing. He goes, I probably shouldn't have
Speaker 1: said that. He's like, you know, he's like, obviously you can't,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't, but he's just like right, he said things
Speaker 1: and then was.
Speaker 4: Like I didn't need to do that, And like, there's
Speaker 4: just I don't know anyone who with any fucking savvy
Speaker 4: whatsoever who doesn't have, you know, an ulterior motive or
Speaker 4: a preconceived notion. Like even if you had a preconceived notion,
Speaker 4: I've gotten thousands of messages being like, yo, thank you
Speaker 4: for showing him.
Speaker 3: Like I didn't like Baker before then he was an asshole.
Speaker 3: It was like that with us and Johnny Manziel exactly,
Speaker 3: And that's why I did the thing ballll on line
Speaker 3: with Johnny.
Speaker 4: He's like, I have a weird vantage point with these
Speaker 4: guys where I fucking see him for who they are
Speaker 4: really like, yeah, they fucked up and or if they've
Speaker 4: done something wrong or whatever. I don't judge people off
Speaker 4: their mistakes. I don't think anyone should be judged off
Speaker 4: their mistakes.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: So it's just corny, Like I hate I hate sports media.
Speaker 4: It's actually firing me up to care a little bit
Speaker 4: more about sports. Like we've talked about it, like if
Speaker 4: I wanted to want when one of my buddies, like
Speaker 4: I could fly around every week and get a crazy
Speaker 4: sit down with everyone. I don't like the ironic. The
Speaker 4: irony of this entire thing. Was the only reason that
Speaker 4: podcast happened right then is because I was moving. He's
Speaker 4: my neighbor. Yeah, so I was just like, we've been
Speaker 4: talking about doing it, and I was about to leave,
Speaker 4: We're about to go on tour, so come to Nashville.
Speaker 4: So he's like, yeah, let's do it. And he had
Speaker 4: wanted to do it, you.
Speaker 3: Know, like it was kind of his like he hit me.
Speaker 3: We were out, you know, he was over and we're like, yo,
Speaker 3: let's do it next week. So the podcast in Nashville
Speaker 3: or Austin.
Speaker 4: In Austin and he was like five houses down, you know.
Speaker 4: So it like every interview I've ever had, it's just
Speaker 4: one of my buddies. It's happenstance that were in the
Speaker 4: same place. I've never been like, hey, do you want
Speaker 4: to come on? You know, like fly them out or whatever,
Speaker 4: none of that shit, you know. So that's kind of
Speaker 4: the nature of the whole thing. And we knew we
Speaker 4: knew it was probably going to be a thing. I
Speaker 4: just didn't I didn't see it going as I watched
Speaker 4: that episode and before we put it out, I didn't
Speaker 4: see like people demonizing him the way they are, and
Speaker 4: it's just pissing me off, you know, like he's.
Speaker 3: Got it doesn't seem like they're being deep. I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: I interrupted might be aggressive. Well, I isn't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think people are demonizing him because what people
Speaker 1: are saying about the Johnny Manzel podcast we did. I
Speaker 1: don't know Baker Mayfield. I love the antics some unantics guy.
Speaker 1: So when he's doing the doing the fucking nut grab
Speaker 1: thing against Kentucky and all that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, talking shit.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 1: I think, oh, that's cool, Like because if he's walking
Speaker 1: in talking and I think, Uh, when I was watching
Speaker 1: that podcast, here in his his struggles of uh being
Speaker 1: at Texas Tech and then having to leave and go
Speaker 1: to Norman for a month and a half and just
Speaker 1: play Rex Sports and then finally get to meet the
Speaker 1: coach when it gets cleared all that shit, and you're like, dude,
Speaker 1: this dude's been through it.
Speaker 3: And then you go listen to the mainstream.
Speaker 1: Media of Sports Center Skip whoever it is entitled Ehether,
Speaker 1: he's entitled. He's never dealt with issues. He was numb
Speaker 1: one over packs lay Bro. Regardless of what you like,
Speaker 1: how many stars you are, everyone has a different journey,
Speaker 1: but there's always adversity regardless, And that's kind of the
Speaker 1: issue is people want to frame up people. People could
Speaker 1: look at me and be like, oh, he's the first
Speaker 1: round pick, he's made Pro Bowls, he was the highest
Speaker 1: pay at one point. It's like yeah, but there's all
Speaker 1: adversities you go through. They might not be as as
Speaker 1: dramatic as this next guy or something like that, but
Speaker 1: every day's adversity and with more stuff like more.
Speaker 3: Was it what's a Spider Man line?
Speaker 1: Where it's like with what we talked about it the
Speaker 1: other day, with more power becomes more responsibility and you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Will's tired, don't don't ask, and
Speaker 1: he will Will's Will's happened this conversation the place with
Speaker 1: the snow, But it does it shed a light on
Speaker 1: Baker that I enjoyed.
Speaker 3: I don't matter.
Speaker 1: I don't watch a lot of podcasts, but I saw
Speaker 1: that and I was like, it's making headlines. Let me
Speaker 1: see and you love me so I do love you
Speaker 1: to death? And you see but you see like what
Speaker 1: ESPN is saying and you're like, damn, like he really
Speaker 1: just said that, And you go look at it and
Speaker 1: you're like, he didn't really fucking say that. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was words came out of his mouth, but the context
Speaker 1: of what you're saying it in it's like you're making
Speaker 1: it way worse than it is and like.
Speaker 4: Framing it like he was like saying it seriously. He
Speaker 4: was like, you know, like he said it, yeah, breath,
Speaker 4: you know, and we're laughing and it's just like we're
Speaker 4: talking about you know there's there's I think there's a
Speaker 4: lot of delusion in the we talk about this a lot,
Speaker 4: like the sports fans, like he's a huge sports fan.
Speaker 4: I'm just like, you don't call yourself a sportsna because
Speaker 4: do you feel do you feel like me?
Speaker 3: You love sports?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I love sports like I sit down sports to sit
Speaker 3: down and watch sports.
Speaker 4: I'm saying the sports fans relationship to the teams, the players.
Speaker 4: I mean, you guys can probably connect with this. It's
Speaker 4: just like the ownership. I believe the entitlements backwards, like, oh,
Speaker 4: you get paid millions of dollars, man, like, fucking suck
Speaker 4: it up, like one you're not paying their fucking you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like these guys worked their entire
Speaker 4: lives while you guys were bullshitting going through your childhood
Speaker 4: having your fucking first drinks and your parties and doing
Speaker 4: this shit and going to college and doing that. These guys,
Speaker 4: like as much as you could argue God's gifts, you know,
Speaker 4: there's there's so much diligence and discipline sacrifice to become
Speaker 4: the greatest, like to become good enough to be at
Speaker 4: that level in that you are not don't compare yourself
Speaker 4: to No, you won't trade jobs with them because they've
Speaker 4: actually been working their entire lives to be and and
Speaker 4: just because you're living in a region where the fucking
Speaker 4: they get drafted to that team, why do you feel
Speaker 4: entitled to tell them how their human experiences?
Speaker 3: Like, I just don't I get it.
Speaker 4: I love it. I know sports as a staple in
Speaker 4: American society and in the world, Like, I think it's
Speaker 4: very probably the best form of entertainment.
Speaker 3: We have music and sports and heating up with the Kardashians.
Speaker 1: Those three things are really TV, not so much those
Speaker 1: things really boxing in.
Speaker 4: Really getting impactful in people's lives, and sports, like there's
Speaker 4: a lot of power, powerful moments and emotions and sports.
Speaker 4: I totally I'm not downplaying it, and I'm entertained when
Speaker 4: I sit down and watch a game, you know, I'm
Speaker 4: just not people aren't even living their own lives.
Speaker 3: These guys, we have this joke, like they're not living
Speaker 3: their own lives.
Speaker 4: You get they get so attached to it becomes part
Speaker 4: of their being, and they they're fucking angered. And then
Speaker 4: now they're rude to their wife and their kids because
Speaker 4: the team lost. It's just I don't I don't. I
Speaker 4: think it's fucking.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking it's backwards, and it's backwards.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen Mike is fired up.
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, like I don't think
Speaker 1: you're wrong, but I think in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: like mainstream media, there's necessary evils that come into play.
Speaker 1: Having the passion of fans. You know, when we lost
Speaker 1: to the Bengals in the division game, you couldn't talk
Speaker 1: to Jack.
Speaker 3: Garrett for a week.
Speaker 4: They were so hurt.
Speaker 1: And it's like totally driving force of people growing up
Speaker 1: and deciding I'm going to be this fan. Is has
Speaker 1: propelled us as athletes to be able to make the
Speaker 1: amount of money we have to have the kind of
Speaker 1: eyes we have on us now, the opinion stuff, that's
Speaker 1: that's where the that little blue bird that we like
Speaker 1: to tweet on, that's where it gets a little difficult
Speaker 1: because now everyone can say how how they feel exactly.
Speaker 1: It's like you can say we when we love when
Speaker 1: the players loose, when the coaches and the players lose
Speaker 1: the game, but it's really not we, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you are a part of it, but
Speaker 1: at the same time, like we have to do it right.
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna if you start coming at us,
Speaker 1: that's like it doesn't do anything.
Speaker 4: I'm totally with you like this, this is just my
Speaker 4: opinion where I'm talking about like life, you know what
Speaker 4: i mean. When I'm when I'm when I'm thinking about
Speaker 4: like my being as a person. This is my outlook
Speaker 4: on it, you know, like I'm not. I've never been
Speaker 4: a person who's been fucking impacted when the team I
Speaker 4: played at Duke, you know, like the team won the
Speaker 4: national championship, Everyone's going nuts, and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 4: it's just me personally.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm mad they did without you. But I
Speaker 3: totally understand. And that's totally what you say. I said,
Speaker 3: you're mad they did without you. But yeah, exactly, yeah,
Speaker 3: exactly exactly.
Speaker 4: I just that's just me as a person. But like
Speaker 4: that's such a valid point. Without the passion, it goes
Speaker 4: both ways.
Speaker 3: They can escape, right and you know, like you know as.
Speaker 2: Well as anybody anybody who's coming who's coming at you
Speaker 2: on Twitter, any social media like it. If it's real,
Speaker 2: it says more about the person and if it's affecting
Speaker 2: you in a certain way, like Baker, what I respected
Speaker 2: about Bakers even though saying all that stuff, like Baker
Speaker 2: knows who he is and what kind of status is
Speaker 2: around him. He knows that on your podcast, like there's
Speaker 2: gonna be headlines regardless of.
Speaker 1: What he says, even you to say there's tw clips,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be something else taken.
Speaker 2: But he's gonna play with you because he you know,
Speaker 2: he trusts you, and he knows what's coming out of
Speaker 2: his mouth. And like he said, whether or not it's true,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's up to him, like it's all on him,
Speaker 2: but he he understands that.
Speaker 3: I feel like the way he gives.
Speaker 7: A final say too, like do you know if Baker
Speaker 7: goes on any of those like skip any of those guys,
Speaker 7: like if he accidentally says something, he doesn't get to
Speaker 7: come back after and be like yo, don't put that
Speaker 7: out like they're waiting for that moment.
Speaker 3: But Mike, you guys the opportunity.
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you guys get him with everyone every Yeah,
Speaker 4: that that goes to show you even more he just
Speaker 4: doesn't give a like he doesn't really give a fuck.
Speaker 4: He cares, He cares enough to say he doesn't want
Speaker 4: to say anything bad. Obviously he doesn't want to upset anybody.
Speaker 4: But to your point, he knows himself. You know, he's
Speaker 4: comfortable when talking to his marketing guys are just like oo,
Speaker 4: like this will be a this will be a it
Speaker 4: will be a fucking fire.
Speaker 2: You know, it'll probably be more you know, asshole tight
Speaker 2: about than Baker will. Like listening to him, Like it's
Speaker 2: like the same thing with Johnny, like do you have
Speaker 2: the regrets and all that stuff? Like listening to Johnny,
Speaker 2: you just know he's forgiven everything that he's like, he's
Speaker 2: given the but he's taken the power.
Speaker 3: Back from where he used to put it with me
Speaker 3: or other people's opinions.
Speaker 2: It seems like Baker when he when he spoke some
Speaker 2: about the struggles he go through when he would read
Speaker 2: stuff like he's like, I see everything as much as
Speaker 2: I said, don When I see everything, it's.
Speaker 3: No different not to see right, And he understands that.
Speaker 1: Like at the same time, like when he said, uh,
Speaker 1: what did he say where He's like, yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: the game. When he said he felt disrespect, but that's
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 3: He gets that. Yeah, he's given you.
Speaker 2: He's given you a very zoomed in version like let
Speaker 2: me go, you know, boost somebody at the cubicle. But
Speaker 2: then he can sit there and say I probably shouldn't
Speaker 2: say that. He can zoom out and say you can
Speaker 2: understand the human element side of it is what I'm getting.
Speaker 4: At, I think. But I think that's the value in
Speaker 4: what this is why you guys are having success, It's
Speaker 4: why it's it's why podcasts are becoming. Podcasts will soon
Speaker 4: be the real format for for these and people just want, like,
Speaker 4: you watch that episode, you can a real temperature on
Speaker 4: who he is.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you don't get a temperature when.
Speaker 4: You put him up on a fucking one of those
Speaker 4: ESPN's across the table and they're trying to you know,
Speaker 4: like it's just even when you sit down and have
Speaker 4: like one of the more serious talks like the sixties,
Speaker 4: sixthy or whatever, it's just not the same. There's just
Speaker 4: this candid feeling where you literally feel like you're on
Speaker 4: the couch with us.
Speaker 3: We're on our couch. My dog's got a fucking hog
Speaker 3: out on the.
Speaker 4: ESPN right by the way. Yeah, everybody was asking about
Speaker 4: the dog. Got some like some like overweight guy who's
Speaker 4: like a sports media guy. I don't know his name, offhand. No, No,
Speaker 4: some guy goes, you know, this is off topic. You
Speaker 4: quoted it, this is off topic. But what are they
Speaker 4: feeding that dog? His back's gonna hurt? And he was
Speaker 4: fat and I quote sweet and I said, is your
Speaker 4: back hurt? It's just if I don't really care what
Speaker 4: you say about. Maybe you go, I'm going to bat
Speaker 4: for my dog. You know I voice, you have a voice, right,
Speaker 4: it's just having we're having a leisurely little what was
Speaker 4: it like a Sunday. It was like a Sunday evening,
Speaker 4: just like them casual. You know, he's just getting it uppen.
Speaker 4: But the cameras are on too. Yeah, whatever, he goes
Speaker 4: to me every time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean that's the whole vibe.
Speaker 2: But job too, because like we'll do the same thing,
Speaker 2: like if if a Pottern episode is taken out of context,
Speaker 2: like us our audience, like we can direct we can
Speaker 2: directly go to the source and just say you're taking
Speaker 2: this out of context. You can say all this stuff
Speaker 2: because again in the same breath, like playing Devil's advocate
Speaker 2: to it all. Like the media has a job to
Speaker 2: do as well, exactly, and you take certain clips that
Speaker 2: are going to get cut up you know they're gonna
Speaker 2: go viral if you're somebody who strictly talks about football,
Speaker 2: not the scope of life, not the scope of the
Speaker 2: overall human being. But if you're just talking to football,
Speaker 2: drama and everything else you got to have, you're trying
Speaker 2: to earn a sense of credibility by they're saying they
Speaker 2: made the right call, they made the wrong call.
Speaker 3: Here's what I think about Baker.
Speaker 2: Here's what I don't think about Baker, because they're trying
Speaker 2: to have like their own take, like they got to
Speaker 2: do their job, or if like fans are going back
Speaker 2: and forth, like Baker said, it too the true Cleveland people,
Speaker 2: like the real ones out there who are going and
Speaker 2: clicking and watching the whole pod, who will probably sitting it.
Speaker 2: Oh I like this take, like Taylor said. But most
Speaker 2: of those people aren't gonna go to Twitter and understand
Speaker 2: everybody's arguing about it.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be oh I like this dude. Now, that's
Speaker 3: why it's.
Speaker 1: Got any people. Yeah, those people that it's something for
Speaker 1: them that they're so pissed off about that they got
Speaker 1: to try and punch up or tear somebody down and
Speaker 1: bring them down to their level. Because they're trying to
Speaker 1: be seen by masses too, to make them feel relevant
Speaker 1: and who they are, Like, oh, look at my chirp.
Speaker 1: But when you go out there on on stage and
Speaker 1: somebody some Steves that signed up on a thing, you know,
Speaker 1: I fucking who's the skis, You're like, you need to
Speaker 1: get rid of that guy. They're they're they're just trying
Speaker 1: to like they're trying to feel relevant in their own story.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: And and those people, the guys like I totally understand.
Speaker 4: I like you said, I think you put it really well.
Speaker 4: I like to I'm liking I'm definitely taking the opportunity
Speaker 4: to point to the truth of it all, like at
Speaker 4: least from my perspective for my fans, and trying to
Speaker 4: rally it in the right direction because I care, and
Speaker 4: I care about Baker and I don't just don't he
Speaker 4: don't even give a fuck, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 4: which is the beautiful thing, which is ultimately like good yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: but just That's where I'm at.
Speaker 3: But I'm also not oblivious, like this is what these
Speaker 3: guys do. Stephen A.
Speaker 4: Smith get Bai, Like, these guys have jobs and they
Speaker 4: have families to take care of. And this is what
Speaker 4: you fucking do so you can you can go in
Speaker 4: circles with this, you know.
Speaker 3: And one thing you guys said that is like reals,
Speaker 3: like people ain't living their own lives.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I kind of it is an escape.
Speaker 1: It allows you to kind of take away from let's
Speaker 1: say something's not going good in your life, and you're
Speaker 1: allowed to go and shit on somebody else, you know,
Speaker 1: do your thing over there.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I feel a little better,
Speaker 3: you know, it does.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something. Sometimes I wake up
Speaker 1: and choose violence, yeah, you know, and I go to bed.
Speaker 1: I was like, that was a good day, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I mean, dude, I used to be like I used
Speaker 4: to have a like I don't know why, but I
Speaker 4: had a rage inside me. Yeah, I think everybody the
Speaker 4: reason I the reason I am the wato wolves inside
Speaker 4: of all of us when people like.
Speaker 3: People shop on me who have been following me for
Speaker 3: a while. Now everyone's warmed up to it.
Speaker 4: But like I came out like I'm not having sexy
Speaker 4: conversations about the girls I'm fucking are doing that. I'm
Speaker 4: talking about like spirituality, a lot on that podcast, like
Speaker 4: real life because.
Speaker 3: People that you're on shrooms the whole time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm not like mom sometimes, but dude, like
Speaker 4: you know, I just fucking like I don't want to
Speaker 4: go through life the way I was, Like, I had
Speaker 4: a fucking such an edge, like I would. I would
Speaker 4: someone says something to me, I'd fucking I'd hit him,
Speaker 4: you know, Like I used to get in trouble. I
Speaker 4: almost gotten I did. I got in serious trouble one time.
Speaker 4: My twenty first birthday. I spent my entire twenty first
Speaker 4: birthday in jail in DC. Serious jail, like serious lock up.
Speaker 1: It was tough, Like wait, what's a serious jail though,
Speaker 1: because there's like jail in print.
Speaker 4: Like it was. It was fucking I had a felony,
Speaker 4: a felony assaults charge. Uh beat the fuck out of
Speaker 4: this dude who was saying something to me. I don't
Speaker 4: even it was a drunken night where they got I think.
Speaker 4: I think it was just when I was starting Mike
Speaker 4: stud like a few songs or two out and I
Speaker 4: was at Georgetown grad like I was playing. So when
Speaker 4: I said I made my first song a twenty two,
Speaker 4: I literally graduated from Duke still had two years of
Speaker 4: eligibility because of the Tommy John surgery.
Speaker 3: So I go to Georgetown Grad.
Speaker 4: I'm just like I'm gonna I'm putting songs out, but
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be a musician.
Speaker 3: I'm a fucking you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to be a baseball player whatever reason.
Speaker 4: I get in a fight, and I used to get
Speaker 4: in fights all the time, you know, Like I had
Speaker 4: a rage inside me. I don't know where it came from,
Speaker 4: and I wanted at one point growing up to me
Speaker 4: was like what is that like? Actually look at yourself
Speaker 4: and evaluate yourself and don't be fucking real, Like I
Speaker 4: don't want to be that person.
Speaker 3: That's that's not even it was part of my programming.
Speaker 4: I grew up in like a tough neighborhood where like
Speaker 4: he's just like that's how the kids were.
Speaker 3: Everyone like Northeast, like hard.
Speaker 4: Nos Like would you say, bro, like that kind of vibe,
Speaker 4: you know, and I'm just I started seeing it for
Speaker 4: what it was. Long story short, the fellony charge got
Speaker 4: dropped because of a fucking camera Like bro, I almost
Speaker 4: went into I was gonna be serve like time a year,
Speaker 4: like I fuck.
Speaker 3: Was he injured?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Did you have any priors before that? Did I?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 4: No, but he had a I mean it was I started.
Speaker 4: This is actually we could This is an interesting point.
Speaker 4: Like I started the Mike stud career about fifty thousand
Speaker 4: dollars in death. I come from like a very lower
Speaker 4: middle middle class maybe lower even, like yeah, no money,
Speaker 4: you know, like yeah, like no money does fucking waste
Speaker 4: Like I was. I owed my parents one hundred couple
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars after I left like school, especially going
Speaker 4: to Georgetown for a year. Like you only get half
Speaker 4: scholarships for baseball.
Speaker 3: That's if you're good. Yeah, and that's if you're good.
Speaker 4: So you know, I start this career, I'm fifty thousand
Speaker 4: in a hole because I lost the civil suit settled.
Speaker 4: Like he had a few major surgeries. Really yeah, so
Speaker 4: you must have this, dude, it doesn't happen thought.
Speaker 3: That dude, American History X by the curb motherfucker shit.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. A few fastballs, bro, you know,
Speaker 4: but like if I'm not in fifty k in the whole,
Speaker 4: I don't know if I like because what happened was
Speaker 4: like I was still playing baseball, and then I hard
Speaker 4: to get a little buzz and I started to get
Speaker 4: book shows for like.
Speaker 3: Five thousand dollars to come play a college show.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, yeah, So like I actually had to,
Speaker 4: I like basically left school and forfeited my compliance.
Speaker 3: Like as an athlete, you can't make money that time.
Speaker 3: So I left.
Speaker 4: I just like went on a whim because I was like, yo,
Speaker 4: I need money. I don't really like playing baseball anymore.
Speaker 4: I'm like a watered down version of myself.
Speaker 3: I was like, because it was really good surgery. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like bro, I was.
Speaker 4: Throwing, throwing five six miles per hours, slower, everything, the
Speaker 4: fluidity in my arm, like nothing felt the same even
Speaker 4: if I was getting out, So I didn't know why,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like it didn't feel the same.
Speaker 3: God, I thank god he didn't hit them, motherfucker. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like it just hung that thing up there. I can't
Speaker 3: believe he didn't hit that.
Speaker 4: Before I just knew exactly what the fuck I was doing,
Speaker 4: and it felt perfect. It felt like exactly what I
Speaker 4: was supposed to be doing on the earth almost you
Speaker 4: know where this this It didn't anymore, So I just
Speaker 4: I went after but without that that debt hanging over me.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I would have like really went
Speaker 4: after it and started fucking going right away. I started
Speaker 4: going and playing every single show like and and trying
Speaker 4: to pay back the money. Damn. Yeah, that's wild. Well
Speaker 4: it worked out, worked out. The criminal charges got dropped. Luckily,
Speaker 4: I was about to get kicked out of school. I
Speaker 4: left anyways, it didn't matter, but the criminal charges got
Speaker 4: dropped because there was a camera over the pizza joint
Speaker 4: and it shows him approaching me, coming into my space first,
Speaker 4: and he actually touched me.
Speaker 3: I punched him first, but he he came in and
Speaker 3: like came in and like about like Mike Studd.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was something along those lines. I don't even remember,
Speaker 4: like and that that was kind of it took I
Speaker 4: don't even remember. It took a few years for.
Speaker 3: Me to even look back at myself and be like,
Speaker 3: the fuck is wrong with me?
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like, going to that moment you
Speaker 2: talked about this rage and then having the basically probably
Speaker 2: the most important conversation with yourself taking yourself talkers through that,
Speaker 2: How hard that was.
Speaker 3: And that process shut out the mushrooms you know.
Speaker 4: About it? It was it was part of my overall
Speaker 4: growth for sure. Yeah, definitely, I'm a big I'm a
Speaker 4: big fan and big proponent of like microdosing and psychoelic
Speaker 4: And there's like the experiences you hear about where you
Speaker 4: like you actually kind of start to break societal norms
Speaker 4: in the programming that you grew up with.
Speaker 3: That's real.
Speaker 4: Like I no one can tell me it isn't because
Speaker 4: I experienced it. I know how I used to be
Speaker 4: and I know how I am now, so no one
Speaker 4: can tell me anything else. But in regards to that,
Speaker 4: like I think I had a I had a breakup.
Speaker 4: I had a relationship with a girl, jose Canseco's daughter.
Speaker 4: It was the only her name is Josie. She's She's
Speaker 4: a great girl, like my only relationship I've ever had.
Speaker 3: I'm in LA. Things are going great, right the relationship.
Speaker 4: It's the first time I wanted something and I couldn't
Speaker 4: figure out how to make it work. And I never
Speaker 4: really even had a vulnerability where I was even like
Speaker 4: I never even had a girlfriend. I was always just
Speaker 4: like kind of a playboy dude. Never yeah, just never
Speaker 4: like locked in with anyone, you know, So that kind
Speaker 4: of rattled me. To the point where like after that
Speaker 4: and I couldn't figure it out, and I like it
Speaker 4: was actually like I was actually fucking like sad and
Speaker 4: also being in LA for six years weighing on me.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, after that happens, I'm in this nice
Speaker 3: house with my friends. You know, if you told me.
Speaker 4: Five years ago this would be your life, I thought
Speaker 4: it would be like a static and happy and proud,
Speaker 4: but I felt none of those things.
Speaker 3: And I did have this ant like to this point,
Speaker 3: I hadn't really rectified any of the.
Speaker 4: Anger I had, And I think, well, I know now,
Speaker 4: like the way I was reacting in my relationship, that
Speaker 4: relationship wasn't supposed to last anyway. I know that now.
Speaker 4: But I started to evaluate every reaction I have, all
Speaker 4: the reactions, like all the things, the way I would
Speaker 4: act and what I would say, it was all egotistical.
Speaker 4: And you know, like I would have never thought of
Speaker 4: myself as an egotistical person, like not blatantly cocky.
Speaker 3: My name was fucking Mike's stud So that says enough.
Speaker 4: Like there's a little bit of ego too, you know,
Speaker 4: a little bit of ego in there, buried in there.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like, how were you being able, How were
Speaker 3: you able to? Were you reading? What were you doing?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I so, I I like it was tough.
Speaker 4: It was. It was a tough probably four to six
Speaker 4: months where I like, I stopped, I stopped going out,
Speaker 4: I stopped drowning out, you know, the sadness and partying
Speaker 4: and fucking strangers, you know, and doing that type of
Speaker 4: shit and just being wild like, and I just wanted
Speaker 4: to I care about life, like I actually, I want
Speaker 4: to have the best experience I can. And I knew,
Speaker 4: I knew I wasn't going the right way, so I
Speaker 4: started to I just had to sack up and like
Speaker 4: kind of look in the mirror. Biggest thing for me
Speaker 4: was reading books like I talk about this book all
Speaker 4: the time. Anyone who has any type of drawing to
Speaker 4: like wanted to wanted to kind of work on themselves.
Speaker 3: This was my bible. It's the Seven.
Speaker 4: Spiritual Laws of Success by Deepak Chopra. It literally I
Speaker 4: had a euphoric failing reading it. You could take that
Speaker 4: as you will, no drugs, nothing, and I had done drugs,
Speaker 4: so I know what you for. I know the hw
Speaker 4: you get from that. I just felt like someone was
Speaker 4: speaking to me and I've never stopped. I have a
Speaker 4: you know, Steve's book club. Like we talked about books.
Speaker 4: I fucking love book.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 4: And dude, you couldn't pay me to read a book.
Speaker 4: I went to Duke, I didn't want to read, you know,
Speaker 4: like I didn't want to learn, you know, and I
Speaker 4: and I just I became.
Speaker 3: I felt it. I felt it.
Speaker 4: I felt the tides turned, and I wanted to go
Speaker 4: inward and start fucking building myself up the way I
Speaker 4: actually want to be, you know, the way I like
Speaker 4: when I close my eyes and think about the future.
Speaker 4: I'm sure every guy does or every girl. You try
Speaker 4: to envision what.
Speaker 3: Your future is.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like being a dude with like, you know,
Speaker 4: two babies with two different girls and partied too much
Speaker 4: in his in his heyday, and it was like it
Speaker 4: was like being a fucking respectable guy.
Speaker 3: Like an honorable guy.
Speaker 4: You're you have a daughter and then they look up
Speaker 4: to you that type of that type of situation and
Speaker 4: me being angry and like hitting a guy every time
Speaker 4: they say something bad to me, What is that?
Speaker 3: That's horseshit?
Speaker 4: It's not honorable, you know, like me not being able
Speaker 4: to have gratitude for the gifts that I did have
Speaker 4: at the time, which I had a lot of gifts.
Speaker 4: I had to look at the lucky breaks I've had,
Speaker 4: like even just being born with an athletic ability at all,
Speaker 4: or being being born with a voice where I could
Speaker 4: fucking turn into music and make people fucking listen to it.
Speaker 4: You know, those were gifts and I couldn't. I wasn't
Speaker 4: really appreciative of any of it. And that that was
Speaker 4: an awakening. Like when you realize you're not you're not
Speaker 4: really thankful for any of the things you got in
Speaker 4: your life. It's it's scary, you know, Like That's how
Speaker 4: that was the emotion I felt, and I wanted to.
Speaker 4: I didn't want any part of it. I wanted to.
Speaker 4: Once I realized it, the self awareness became a thing
Speaker 4: and I started paying attention to myself and my emotions.
Speaker 3: And how I felt.
Speaker 4: I realized I had a lot of work, and I'm
Speaker 4: still doing it all the time, Like today, you know,
Speaker 4: fucking first hour of my day, I read, I meditated,
Speaker 4: and I do it because I have a rage in there.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want that rage.
Speaker 4: I want to eradicate that, you know, and that's kind
Speaker 4: of the that's like, that's like one of the bigger goals.
Speaker 3: I love that. One of my biggest goals in life.
Speaker 1: Is that's a It's a hard thing to make progress
Speaker 1: towards yourself as an individual because once you realize you're
Speaker 1: making progress, you want to make more. But at one
Speaker 1: point you realize, oh, I can never stop doing this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you're always trying to achieve that next level of
Speaker 1: like what's mywareness?
Speaker 3: What can I how can I be better? Self awareness
Speaker 3: is a gift and a curse.
Speaker 4: Yeah, think about what the ignorance is bliss, Like, if
Speaker 4: you're not paying attention, you're hurting people. You know, you're
Speaker 4: not even thinking about it, louck it. You know, like
Speaker 4: your your your human experience, your life is fine. But
Speaker 4: when you start shigning a lighter on yourself and you're
Speaker 4: paying attention every day and you're looking at it, it
Speaker 4: could be painful. But I also think it's it's the
Speaker 4: biggest gift because that's that's how you can grow, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So without the awareness, you're just
Speaker 4: you're going around in circles. I'm interested in growing and
Speaker 4: changing and reinventing, Like, yeah, you know, and I think
Speaker 4: that's that's a huge key, is the self awareness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably I would I would assume it stuff
Speaker 2: for like, you know a lot of people have like
Speaker 2: an achievement myset, like being athletes. Can you say, oh,
Speaker 2: how how do I achieve and get to the next
Speaker 2: like awareness thing like catching myself?
Speaker 3: I like, you know, how do I I feel like
Speaker 3: I'm here?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 3: How do I get here? And it's like you can't
Speaker 3: even really be thinking that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's there's a Devil's advocate in it where
Speaker 1: it's like I want to achieve something, but you also
Speaker 1: have to be happy about where you're at. If you're
Speaker 1: just happy we you're at, where's the drive to get
Speaker 1: where you want to go?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: That's always like you're kind of fighting that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough and it's I think what everyone learns
Speaker 4: is that as you get older is like life isn't
Speaker 4: supposed to be easy. We talked about this in our podcast.
Speaker 4: What gets us into trouble is the expectation that life
Speaker 4: is supposed to be easy. Why do we have that expectation?
Speaker 4: You know, like who taught us that it's not supposed
Speaker 4: to be hard. Why why do we why do we
Speaker 4: think like what was me?
Speaker 3: Fuck this? Why is this so hard? It's just part
Speaker 3: of the human experience.
Speaker 4: And and you know, knowing the athletes and knowing a
Speaker 4: lot of guys who are successful and and have all
Speaker 4: the all the gifts that people look at.
Speaker 3: Me like, how are they unhappy they got millions of dollars?
Speaker 3: Or I don't get it? Man, give me that, give
Speaker 3: me his wife, I'll be good man. Times you walk
Speaker 3: into a place where someone's like, if I had your size,
Speaker 3: I'd be doing this, this and this. Yeah, probably not exactly,
Speaker 3: but but even my my point of agree, disagreed.
Speaker 4: Biggest the biggest size guy ever complain about his size,
Speaker 4: But you're looking sick no matter what. Even if you
Speaker 4: are big, even if you are big, you're gonna just
Speaker 4: have like, even if you are great and have these
Speaker 4: great things, you're gonna have a different set of experiences
Speaker 4: that make it hard.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Everybody, it's like I want to say, Tony Robbins says
Speaker 2: it it's not a upstanding facts that cost stress, it's
Speaker 2: the meaning you give the facts. And that really hit
Speaker 2: home with me one time because it's like we all have.
Speaker 2: Everybody has their own their own life. Right, Just because
Speaker 2: like I play in the NFL and do X, Y
Speaker 2: and Z, doesn't mean I'm not going through my own
Speaker 2: wave of stress just all like everybody, it all means
Speaker 2: like the same thing. It's like the meaning we're giving
Speaker 2: the facts. Just because something happens to you doesn't mean, oh,
Speaker 2: this fact that weighs outweighs yours. It's like, what meaning
Speaker 2: are we attaching to it. I haven't met anybody. I
Speaker 2: haven't met or heard anyone says anyone.
Speaker 4: There's ten different guys on this buses, anyone not had
Speaker 4: really bad days and stress and and fucking you know,
Speaker 4: just feel fucking terrible. You're an NFL star first rounder,
Speaker 4: went on and achieved your dreams. Have you had sad
Speaker 4: days and terrible days? Sad days for sure? Dark fucking
Speaker 4: it right. Yeah, I've had two lucky breaks and that
Speaker 4: was part of my thing. Like I was like disgusted
Speaker 4: with myself for not being happy because I'm like, what
Speaker 4: the fuck am I complaining about? You know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 4: and I'm you know, like I go to a fucking
Speaker 4: order of cheeseburger. Then the guys happier than I am.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm starting to wonder what the fuck is
Speaker 4: wrong with me?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But I think what I've learned as I've dove into
Speaker 4: spirituality in general and like trying to be enlightened or
Speaker 4: trying to be as enlightened as you can and at
Speaker 4: peace as you can, is everyone that everyone's having a
Speaker 4: different version of the same experience, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: like in some way or another, you know, like everyone
Speaker 4: there there's a yin they call it, like the yin
Speaker 4: and yang to every everything in the universe, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. We're getting very deep here, but this
Speaker 4: is this is kind of where this is like where
Speaker 4: there there's there's there's an opposite to everything, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 3: And I know I've had fucking terrible days.
Speaker 4: So anyone at home having a terrible day, like it's
Speaker 4: everyone can can share in that, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: everyone can. It's it's a unification thing really, like everyone's
Speaker 4: having tough time.
Speaker 3: You know. It's made me be nicer to people. I
Speaker 3: used to be a fucking asshole.
Speaker 4: If someone said something I didn't agree with, said, fuck
Speaker 4: that guy, you know what I mean. To fuck you, Like,
Speaker 4: if you don't like me, fuck you you suck you
Speaker 4: know where. I don't know what the hell he's going through.
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened to him last night or
Speaker 4: last week, or he lost his dad a year ago
Speaker 4: and hasn't been happy since. Like, that's shit that I
Speaker 4: started to think about that I never thought about. It
Speaker 4: was all about me, you know, always, And I think
Speaker 4: that's that's growing up for me at least, you know that.
Speaker 4: This is my version of growing up, and it's been
Speaker 4: helpful for me to Ironically, I've gotten more successful the.
Speaker 3: Less I've cared about.
Speaker 4: Like you think when you talk about like having an ego,
Speaker 4: you gotta have an ego to be great, right, like
Speaker 4: an obsession. Yeah, and like you talk about, especially athletes,
Speaker 4: you got to think you're the fucking biggest badass, right,
Speaker 4: you know you need that. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: there's another side of that coin, like I personally subscribed,
Speaker 4: I like, don't try tattooed right here. I think we're
Speaker 4: sposed to be who were supposed to be, and when
Speaker 4: you when you're doing what you're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 4: Yes there's hard times and yes there's grind, but when
Speaker 4: you're being here you're supposed to be.
Speaker 3: You don't have to try to be it.
Speaker 4: You just be you, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 4: to me going and making music and doing it for
Speaker 4: ten thousand hours, that was just that was where I
Speaker 4: was in my life.
Speaker 3: That's what I was supposed to be doing.
Speaker 4: And I actually got a lot of success, Like I
Speaker 4: got a lot more tangible success when I stopped caring
Speaker 4: about it as much.
Speaker 3: Take that as you will, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Because you felt more aligned with what you were wanting
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 1: It's more like when you're saying, like desiring certain things,
Speaker 1: it's like, it's not bad.
Speaker 3: I don't think to have it as a desire.
Speaker 2: Maybe too many could be tough because you're trying to
Speaker 2: like chase all these different rabbits. But maybe you're like,
Speaker 2: when you're aligned with your desire, you're you're probably you
Speaker 2: feel like you're not trying because you're you were being who.
Speaker 3: You want to feels organic to you, right, well, I
Speaker 3: am supposed to be doing this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it might.
Speaker 1: Seem hard for other people, not like it don't try Like, hey,
Speaker 1: you're trying to you're trying to get a scholarship.
Speaker 3: Hey, don't don't worry about it, don't even try. It's
Speaker 3: like it don't work hard thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that don't matter about the people get messed up
Speaker 1: about as that one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: I work hard, Like I tattoo that on my leg
Speaker 4: as I'm I'm working. I'm working the hardest I've ever worked.
Speaker 4: Like I'm making music every fucking day. I'm on business
Speaker 4: calls every day. But my point is, like is Charles
Speaker 4: Bukowski is one of my favorite authors. And that's on
Speaker 4: his tombstone and his story more or less, I'll give
Speaker 4: it like a nutshell. It was just like he wanted
Speaker 4: to be a famous writer his entire life and had
Speaker 4: a terrible life, like was ridiculed as a kid at
Speaker 4: a bad skin disease, never found love, had a terrible,
Speaker 4: you know, terrible go of it, worked jobs, He hated
Speaker 4: right what rite right, right, right right, And it was
Speaker 4: coming from a place of lack, like I need this,
Speaker 4: like I don't have enough, you know, like I need,
Speaker 4: I need, I need, And his career took off. He
Speaker 4: became a legend. After he stops carrying it, it was over.
Speaker 4: He was like in his sixties, you know, like he
Speaker 4: was his hate, his prime had passed him by, and
Speaker 4: he was writing just for the pure joy because he
Speaker 4: needed to.
Speaker 3: It was him.
Speaker 4: He wasn't trying to be a famous writer. He just
Speaker 4: fucking needed to write. And he's up caring about like
Speaker 4: it's detaching from the results. And that's when you get
Speaker 4: the results, right, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?
Speaker 7: People, you know it's too late to find out that
Speaker 7: the journey was the whole. Yeah, point, Yeah, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean? Yeah, exactly. I think I think the
Speaker 7: destination that you're trying to get to is ever evolving.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean is the journey?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like there is no such thing really because
Speaker 4: by the time you get there and you achieve that goal,
Speaker 4: your goals have shifted, you know, really, or at least
Speaker 4: you get there. We could speak to like you get it,
Speaker 4: you check it, you check a fucking like some of
Speaker 4: your biggest goals. Like once you get it, right, like
Speaker 4: your life isn't fucking completely transfident.
Speaker 3: You look to the next thing. You're like, Okay, I like,
Speaker 3: what's next? What am I going to next?
Speaker 1: The first time I had a pro ball, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, if I can get two though, right then
Speaker 1: you're like that dude, Oh if I can get three,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that that type of stuff.
Speaker 3: And McConaughey has a good He was doing a speech
Speaker 3: or something like that.
Speaker 1: I think he was accepting an award and he said,
Speaker 1: like someone came and asked him who his hero was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fantastic, right, and he said he's.
Speaker 1: A legerd hero is always ten years ahead of me.
Speaker 1: I'm always chasing my own hero though. And it's like,
Speaker 1: if you can do that in a way that you
Speaker 1: know that's the path you're on, then you're then you're cooking, baby, exactly,
Speaker 1: And you're cooking.
Speaker 3: I think you're never going to attain it. He's like, Yo,
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna get Yeah, you're never. You're never gonna
Speaker 3: get there.
Speaker 1: And as long as you're okay with knowing, you're never
Speaker 1: gonna get there, because like, to use your full potential
Speaker 1: in life is impossible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're never.
Speaker 4: You can't. You can't.
Speaker 1: There's too many lives to live. There's too many interests
Speaker 1: in this world for you to do absolutely every single
Speaker 1: thing you want unless you can obtain like time travel,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, But for I lost
Speaker 1: my thought No, Yeah, we're talking about we're gonna say
Speaker 1: one thing that's difficult, and then you went on that thing.
Speaker 3: I lost talking about a goal and reaching a destination.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like we're all floating together and yeah, and I
Speaker 1: just let the let the air out.
Speaker 3: We're now and I'm like, ye lost it.
Speaker 4: But that's really that's that's like how I'm how I'm
Speaker 4: leading my life right now. And it's been nice for me.
Speaker 4: It is I think, Uh, everyone's different, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, And so like I don't I know, I
Speaker 4: just know how I felt. So my experience with it,
Speaker 4: like I know what it did to me. So I
Speaker 4: try to share on my platform a lot, Like for
Speaker 4: a lot of people it's probably too woo woo.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't give a fuck because it's just
Speaker 3: my truth and my platform. You listen to it or
Speaker 3: you don't, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But it's just what happened to me, and it's given
Speaker 4: me at least a chance at like a fulfilling life
Speaker 4: where because I know where.
Speaker 3: I was going. I was just going towards what's next,
Speaker 3: what's next? Wise? And it enough? Why isn't it enough?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: And I don't like one of my favorite people in
Speaker 4: the world. He's the guy dropped me off, isn't it? Rasachi?
Speaker 4: He Uh. He showed up to one of my shows
Speaker 4: seven years ago on a mopead. He drove five hours
Speaker 4: to one of my shows in Omaha. He lives on
Speaker 4: a farm in Iowa, and he wasting. He was there
Speaker 4: before the show started, hours before. And this is back
Speaker 4: in the day when I had like four hundred person shows.
Speaker 4: And he's there in a full versace jumpsuit, and I
Speaker 4: just he just captivated me. He's now my right hand man,
Speaker 4: lives in my house. Who's my It just takes care
Speaker 4: of me. He's like my mom and dad squeezed into
Speaker 4: a slightly overweight Mexican guy. And he's the best guy ever,
Speaker 4: right but he but he he fucking he's literally the
Speaker 4: most content fulfilled, comfortable. Like his resting heart rate is
Speaker 4: like he's borderline dead.
Speaker 3: Like he has the dirties.
Speaker 4: It's low, like it's in the four good for him
Speaker 4: and he and he's just like he's just so fulfilled
Speaker 4: with just being being here, you know, like it's it's
Speaker 4: just it's just enough, like and and that's one thing
Speaker 4: I'm I'm if there's anything I want. My goal is
Speaker 4: just to have enough, like it's and and create my
Speaker 4: you can kind of create enough just right here in
Speaker 4: the moment, if you if you can get your mind right,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, This is enough just having
Speaker 4: having a human experience and even the hard parts of it.
Speaker 4: It's enough, you know, like it's enough to have. And
Speaker 4: that dude, that dude showed me like I'm inspired by
Speaker 4: those dudes. I have a bunch of famous friends who
Speaker 4: fucking so successful and millions of dollars and in every
Speaker 4: sense of the word, are killing it.
Speaker 3: But I looked at him. No, it's those too.
Speaker 1: You're just like you feel like they have so much
Speaker 1: like stress or they're like anger, or it's like something's
Speaker 1: not enough.
Speaker 3: You're just like, bro, you got a lot of shit. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: there's a thing like that.
Speaker 4: Someone says something just like you get to the point
Speaker 4: where do you own the things? Like when you have
Speaker 4: a lot of things, like yeah, you own them?
Speaker 3: Or do they own you?
Speaker 4: Like all you're doing is like paying for upkeep and
Speaker 4: like worried about and don't touch this and don't touch that,
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, Like I'm I'm going
Speaker 4: I'm just going the other way, like I drive a jeep,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3: It's it's a nice vehicle, Chevy, but it's nice vehicle.
Speaker 3: It's not it's not a Chevy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what I'm saying, Like honestly, like
Speaker 4: I said it to him versa on the ride here,
Speaker 4: I was just like, we're ramping up. We've been very idle.
Speaker 4: I've been working hard, but in the house a lot
Speaker 4: through COVID and not touring for three years. We're about
Speaker 4: to go on fifty dates a big tour, and I'm
Speaker 4: ramping up and being more and I'm like, I don't
Speaker 4: even know, like I'm gonna. I'm gonna the challenge is
Speaker 4: to be president, to enjoy it all and not dread it.
Speaker 4: But like you know, I'm I'm not necessarily like super
Speaker 4: that that doesn't get my rocks off anymore, having attention
Speaker 4: and being on stage, and you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So that's just like the direction I'm going. I don't
Speaker 3: know what it turns into.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: If I fucking retire in a year, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I have no idea.
Speaker 4: It could just be nervous, not at all, like I'm
Speaker 4: not nervous. I don't get nervous. I've never been nervous
Speaker 4: about playing shows ever. I don't know why, but I
Speaker 4: think that says like, do.
Speaker 3: You know, were you nervous when you play baseball? That's
Speaker 3: why I say I get nervous.
Speaker 1: The reason why is when you played baseball, you put
Speaker 1: so much pressure on yourself and you transition to something else,
Speaker 1: You're like, well, I was, I'm not gonna be stressed
Speaker 1: about this because I was. I'm just left something I
Speaker 1: was stressed from exactly, and I'm and I'm and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't have any expectations of myself as an artist.
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to suck. I don't even know.
Speaker 4: Like now I've I've gone on. I've been doing it
Speaker 4: for a while, so you know, it's a little different.
Speaker 4: But like when I started, I would just go out
Speaker 4: there and bullshit and like that was all Like my
Speaker 4: whole performance style was birthed out of not being good.
Speaker 3: Like I had two songs like yeah, not trying, so
Speaker 3: I'll go out there.
Speaker 4: I'd have twenty minutes in front of the crowd, and
Speaker 4: I by the time I got off stage, I like,
Speaker 4: I like that guy. You know, like we got drunk
Speaker 4: and we fucking played some songs, you know, like kind
Speaker 4: of that's just how it all came to fruition. You know,
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know where it goes from here.
Speaker 4: I love making music, I love performing. That's not what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, but I'm definitely My biggest goals are just
Speaker 4: about being present, being peaceful, you know, like I fucking
Speaker 4: love being peaceful, Like being in Montana the snow area. Yeah,
Speaker 4: no area, Yeah in the snow uh yeah. It was
Speaker 4: like no one in the cold water.
Speaker 3: There was no one around it, and I fucking loved it. So,
Speaker 3: you know, these are all new things for me.
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Speaker 1: Of all the places you've been traveling from your nomadic lifestyle,
Speaker 1: what was your what's been your favorite one?
Speaker 3: I know my favorite one for you.
Speaker 4: Me and him got different answers.
Speaker 3: We talk about this a lot, John, you got one.
Speaker 4: He wouldn't even listen. He wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we we we definitely like, we talked about this
Speaker 3: a lot. We we loved all the houses and shit.
Speaker 4: Like, one thing we have done is we've nailed the houses,
Speaker 4: you know, so we've had good setups and stuff. I
Speaker 4: would I would pick There's different answers for different things,
Speaker 4: but I would My favorite is Austin, Texas. I think
Speaker 4: I'm on the lake there. I just love it, and
Speaker 4: I think it's the most well rounded. That answer is
Speaker 4: for where I would probably settle, you know, the most
Speaker 4: unique and and and like really interesting for me, I
Speaker 4: think personally me, because I think the guy's got a
Speaker 4: little board. Was Montana. We're on a hundred acre ranch.
Speaker 4: There's no one in sight, it's fucking middle of the winter.
Speaker 4: Always saw I saw more elk than fucking people, you know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: And you know, so water and mountains are like my things,
Speaker 4: you know. So the lake we're on Lake Travis and Austin,
Speaker 4: and I loved Montana.
Speaker 3: I loved it here. You saw you came to the
Speaker 3: house in Broadway. Yeah you had a nice and I said, wow,
Speaker 3: I mean that you would not go on around you.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't die if I live going on. I mean,
Speaker 3: like talk about the opposite of peace.
Speaker 4: Me up there, great ski the baton. Yeah, he's gonna
Speaker 4: go go do the raw ross stuff. Yeah, live there.
Speaker 3: They did live there. He's I don't think he's he's
Speaker 3: not with the squad anymore. I don't know where he's at.
Speaker 4: He's out.
Speaker 1: I wanna sounds for Julio Jones, everybody, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Where do you uh see yourself in? Like I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say, like where do you see
Speaker 1: yourself in five years? But earlier when you were saying
Speaker 1: you don't know how much longer you can sustain it,
Speaker 1: what do you actually see you for yourself.
Speaker 3: In the future.
Speaker 2: It's funny, Well think about it, like what's something that's
Speaker 2: starting to come out of Like this is where I
Speaker 2: see myself going.
Speaker 4: You're gonna hate this, cause I'm gonna give you an
Speaker 4: answer like I I've already I've already talked about this
Speaker 4: with somebody, Like I can't answer that. I don't know
Speaker 4: what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing for the
Speaker 4: next fucking five months. I'm toring, but I these guys
Speaker 4: know I have some weird things in my life. We're
Speaker 4: not gonna go there, like relationships and.
Speaker 3: In Europe and like I want to go to Europe,
Speaker 3: you know, in general.
Speaker 4: Before this even happened on his way, I think, yeah,
Speaker 4: like I'm just I'm just fucking I don't know. I
Speaker 4: know I'm gonna make music for for some for a
Speaker 4: good amount of time. Still, will I be like everything
Speaker 4: we're just talking about for me, it's going to a
Speaker 4: place where like I don't think it's like I don't
Speaker 4: think it's like the best way to live the rest
Speaker 4: of my life, Like taking out my phone being like, hey, guys,
Speaker 4: here here's where I am today. Maybe swipe up and
Speaker 4: fucking download my new podcast.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like I do that, you
Speaker 3: need to relax.
Speaker 1: We love what we're doing. Yeah, that's gonna be the promo.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be that guy we do stars exactly.
Speaker 4: No, I'm doing the same thing I'm saying for the
Speaker 4: longevity of my life. Like I don't I don't know
Speaker 4: when that bell goes off or I'm just like, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know, like I I do.
Speaker 4: If I had to guess, I'm gonna make music and
Speaker 4: tour for at least another two or three years. Do
Speaker 4: I think I'll ride off into the sunset and like
Speaker 4: people don't know who where the fuck I am and
Speaker 4: what's happened?
Speaker 3: Yes, I do.
Speaker 4: I think that will definitely happen at that McAfee. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's just like I'm making money, I'm hustling. It's not
Speaker 4: to be seen like I'd rather disappear, if that makes
Speaker 4: any sense, you know what I mean. I'd like to
Speaker 4: make enough money and have enough success where I feel
Speaker 4: I have closure with it and I know my friends
Speaker 4: and my family are good, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: And then I can you know, because I want to
Speaker 4: have my own family and do all that shit.
Speaker 3: You know, I've lived such a ratchet lifestyle, like very.
Speaker 4: Immature, you know, like all about me, women all the time,
Speaker 4: you know, nothing real like, so there's there's other things
Speaker 4: to life that I'm aware of, and I'm just fucking
Speaker 4: being becoming spiritual, and shit has kind of like opened
Speaker 4: my eyes to it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I used to think it was the best thing ever
Speaker 4: to just fuck whoever and you know, and and and
Speaker 4: just have all the attention and and not have responsibilities
Speaker 4: and ship.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, that's that's where I'm headed. Steve, Yeah,
Speaker 4: big pop, Steve, you don't monetize the baby. You got to.
Speaker 2: Get a little bit, will I'll be monetizing my baby, yes,
Speaker 2: the little baby bucket hats with Steven stranch On.
Speaker 4: That's when I'll come back there you go, I'll come
Speaker 4: back to the internet, and I have a baby, and
Speaker 4: I'm ready to monetize her. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm ready to monetize her be a girl. Just
Speaker 1: oh as far as like things running their course, Ball
Speaker 1: Don't Lie? Yeah, what what's happened with Ball Don't lie?
Speaker 1: Man Johnny And Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like I'm I am a full time Johnny Manziel wrangler,
Speaker 4: Like I'm that's probably one of my best gifts.
Speaker 3: Like I'm one of the only guys that can wrangle
Speaker 3: him in for some stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And and he's one of my favorite people, you know,
Speaker 4: Like he has his hardships and his have been blasted
Speaker 4: all over the internet for years and TV and everything else.
Speaker 4: But love the guy. Root for the guy.
Speaker 3: It's one of my missions is to help him be sustainable.
Speaker 4: And there's like there's like this hooplab about him that's
Speaker 4: like he's comes from oil money man, Like he's good.
Speaker 3: Like no, like there's money in his face. It's not
Speaker 3: his he's not.
Speaker 4: But I mean, like I know him, we're he he needs,
Speaker 4: you know, like he's he's looking for stability in his
Speaker 4: life and he has his own battles, and I love
Speaker 4: the guy.
Speaker 3: And I want to help him, and we've done well a.
Speaker 4: Few different times, making making him some money, and we're
Speaker 4: working on something else with with no oh really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we even bleep out. We can bleep out,
Speaker 3: bleep out, Yeah, well bleep.
Speaker 1: Sleep we need to bleep out, don't when they bring
Speaker 1: up when they bring up about Johnny doing a thing
Speaker 1: with Yeah.
Speaker 3: Are you able to spill some tea for bleeping out? No?
Speaker 3: I mean you know, like I think you should. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's things we can bla there's an obvious just the
Speaker 3: next three minute bleep this whole thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's an obvious there's an obvious story to be
Speaker 4: told right with him. So that's it's not rocket science
Speaker 4: what it's going to be, you know, but it's doing
Speaker 4: it the right way. And we have we have a
Speaker 4: I mean I'm in the middle of it, uh, but
Speaker 4: we have we have an amazing partner.
Speaker 3: And it looks like it's gonna come to fruition. So
Speaker 3: it's it's still it's still premature, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's time.
Speaker 3: He's ready to. He's ready to.
Speaker 4: That's what bottle't Lie was a step in the right
Speaker 4: direction and just kind of showing his true colors and
Speaker 4: like he has to, you know, he just has to
Speaker 4: stamp his put his dig in a little bit, you know,
Speaker 4: on the next chapter, dig in commit, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. And and Battn't Lie I think could come back,
Speaker 4: like we're kind of taking it in seasons, you know,
Speaker 4: but like I think, I think the whole goal was
Speaker 4: to kind of get what we're working on now, like
Speaker 4: a bigger a bigger like more or less taking what
Speaker 4: the content matter of bottn't lie and telling the whole
Speaker 4: story visually, you know.
Speaker 7: Like.
Speaker 1: The right way, the right way where visually you watch it,
Speaker 1: like the Tony Hawk documentary they did that HBO.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, fantastic. And and I think it will.
Speaker 4: I think it will be really great for him. And
Speaker 4: he he's actually ready to like give it, give it
Speaker 4: another chance, to just like rebranded, a fresh start, you know,
Speaker 4: like whatever whatever it's going to be. I think he's
Speaker 4: extremely personable. Everyone who meets him loves him. You know.
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna figure it out. And I'm just
Speaker 4: trying to be the guy that can help him in
Speaker 4: some way.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: He's a fucking legend, you know, probably the most polarizing
Speaker 4: in college collegiate athlete of all time top five at least,
Speaker 4: you know so Hoping Robinson, Way, no way, do you
Speaker 4: think it's the most collegive Who do you think is
Speaker 4: the most polarizing collegiate athlete of all time?
Speaker 3: If not N's minus Tim Tebow. I was gonna say
Speaker 3: Tim Tebow is a big one, more than more than
Speaker 3: Johnny Bush is a good one.
Speaker 4: Johnny just because he had all the just because everything
Speaker 4: that was like Tim Tebow wasn't like getting shot out
Speaker 4: in a Drake song, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, but that wasn't his clientele.
Speaker 1: He was getting shot out in every church though, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and that's a way bigger demographic.
Speaker 3: Valid, way bigger population. Yeah, Jay's been shot out and
Speaker 3: on the president.
Speaker 4: In college years it was good point. And I'm talking
Speaker 4: like literally like Lebron James is wearing a money Manzel
Speaker 4: fucking T shirt doing the money Manzel and he was
Speaker 4: a fucking college kid, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like, but also Tim Tebow didn't. There wasn't as much
Speaker 2: social media then. There wasn't really what Johnny either. It
Speaker 2: was the very beginning.
Speaker 3: What year was that it was ten years Well, we
Speaker 3: didn't have the same draft class.
Speaker 4: So fourteen, Yeah, it was about I think he said
Speaker 4: a decade ago, the same draft class.
Speaker 3: You should have seen You should have seen Johnny during
Speaker 3: the draft. Oh what was he doing?
Speaker 5: Bro uh?
Speaker 1: Because he was thinking. We rode over in the buses
Speaker 1: over there. It was like Mother's Day weekend, so his mom,
Speaker 1: my mom, him and a bunch of other players and
Speaker 1: their families are driving and he's sitting right behind me
Speaker 1: and he's talking about like, I think It'm gonna be
Speaker 1: the first overall pick. Like he's like, because I knew who,
Speaker 1: but there was talk about him being that. And one
Speaker 1: of the big question marks was like all the stuff
Speaker 1: kind of was coming up, like, oh he parties a
Speaker 1: lot on all this because he had a lot of time.
Speaker 1: He won the Heisman so young and then eyes around
Speaker 1: the whole time, so there's so much more dirt on him.
Speaker 1: And he thought he he thought there was a chance
Speaker 1: he'd be the number one overall pick. And we get
Speaker 1: to the draft room and obviously he went I think
Speaker 1: thirty one or twenty eight or higher. And the way
Speaker 1: it works in the draft is is like when you
Speaker 1: get picked, you get picked, and then you go and
Speaker 1: do this like room this media room of shit like
Speaker 1: with all these like mainstream media people, and they talk
Speaker 1: about how excited you are to be a Tennessee Titan
Speaker 1: or Cleveland Brown or whatever it is. And after that
Speaker 1: you kind of go back through the green room to leave.
Speaker 1: And I was going back through the green room to
Speaker 1: leave and he's sitting there like you could just tell you,
Speaker 1: He's like, fuck this place.
Speaker 3: I do not want to be here. So mad.
Speaker 4: When did you go?
Speaker 3: Fourteen? That was the same year, so twenty fourteen. How
Speaker 3: was that experience? It was cool? Did you always bad ass?
Speaker 3: Just kind of knew you're gonna be in the NFL
Speaker 3: your whole life type thing. I knew it's gonna be
Speaker 3: a bad uh badass. I knew I was gonna be
Speaker 3: a nfought it was a bad ass when I came
Speaker 3: out of the womb.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked No, I knew. I knew I
Speaker 1: was gonna be the NFL when I got my first
Speaker 1: scholarship offer, like that's I knew that that was like
Speaker 1: the the path I'm going to take. That's like that
Speaker 1: was because at that point where my life was, it
Speaker 1: was sporadic. I had I was in legal trouble, I
Speaker 1: was doing a lot of bad ship and then all
Speaker 1: really yeah, all of a sudden, I get the scholarship offer.
Speaker 3: You knows, I thought he was joking.
Speaker 4: No ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like doing a lot of bad ship.
Speaker 4: Now I got a little.
Speaker 3: I'm thirty, now, you know what I'm saying. I got
Speaker 3: two kids.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be the best at I can be,
Speaker 1: you know exactly. But I knew like that from that point. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the NFL case.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. There's obviously times of doubt,
Speaker 3: but like not really. When I saw you, you were,
Speaker 3: you were your knee was banged up. No, dude, it's
Speaker 3: still little, but it.
Speaker 1: Works real well. An They're both little. I just got
Speaker 1: little legs. Yeah, these little things move though. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, work for you, they're working for me.
Speaker 1: A couple of pistons, just getting after it.
Speaker 3: Have you been in have you been a tighten your
Speaker 3: entire career?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Since fourteen, so going on nine. He was the longest
Speaker 3: tenured guy. No, our punter is he's been there for twelve.
Speaker 3: He's not taking any fucking impact.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's really cool because like I feel like
Speaker 1: yesterday I was a rookie. You're like, damn weird do
Speaker 1: it for ten years and like you're going to your
Speaker 1: nine Like yeah, they say, don't fall in love with
Speaker 1: the franchise, but I've absolutely done that. I've absolutely fallen
Speaker 1: in love with the Tennessee Titans. I love like being
Speaker 1: a part of it. I love the culture. And I
Speaker 1: say it all the time. I love being a part
Speaker 1: of something that's really wasn't special. I wasn't a special franchise.
Speaker 1: There's nothing really no draw about the Tennessee Titans in fourteen.
Speaker 1: We're really bad to helping being a part of something
Speaker 1: that's like grown potentially and like has become like kids
Speaker 1: have become fans, and yeah, you have great players like
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and it's just like it's been cool.
Speaker 3: You've you've you've seen Nashville Transformer in front of your eyes.
Speaker 1: Been Yeah, it's day and night different the skyline, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been wild. The guy before me, Michael Ruse, who
Speaker 1: was here for ten years. It's really cool because in
Speaker 1: the last twenty eight now going on twenty nine years,
Speaker 1: Tesse Times have had three tackles. Was it was great longevity.
Speaker 3: He hop was the first tackle. He was there for ten.
Speaker 1: Michael Ruse played for ten. Then I came in replaced
Speaker 1: Michael Roose and it's been nine. So it's been or
Speaker 1: going into nine, it's been it's been a really cool experience.
Speaker 1: Super lucky because he kind of when you get drafted,
Speaker 1: everybody wants to like stay in the same spot they are,
Speaker 1: and you have this idea of what your life's going
Speaker 1: to be like as a player, and you know, for
Speaker 1: the most part, except for these last two years, it's
Speaker 1: really gone exactly like it has in my head.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know when you say, except just the injury. Yeah, injury.
Speaker 3: I came back.
Speaker 1: I tore my a cl really three years because I
Speaker 1: I I popped for a ped that I didn't know
Speaker 1: I was taking. Obviously I can go down this whole
Speaker 1: ratit the debate allegedly right and argue with a bunch
Speaker 1: of people again. And then the end of the year
Speaker 1: finished great once the AFC Championship. Oh he's in joining
Speaker 1: the team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I just figured I would switch it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah when the scene, yeah, bodcast are dude. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: do like the brand too, it's that's hype.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got the p D, and then the next
Speaker 1: year I tore my a c L and then last
Speaker 1: year it was just I was it was kind of
Speaker 1: like what you were saying when you were talking about baseball,
Speaker 1: how you just kind of like towards the end of season,
Speaker 1: I was like playing better, I was playing well. I'm like,
Speaker 1: how am I doing? Like how do you guys not
Speaker 1: getting past me type of vibe right now? Like I
Speaker 1: feel fantastic again. So I'm really excited to see like
Speaker 1: what happens in the future.
Speaker 4: Amazing. I mean, dude, that's a a fucking long career.
Speaker 4: I mean, knock on wood, that's the fucking like, well,
Speaker 4: this is your ten over here, your ten. You're going
Speaker 4: on your ten, loading your tins loading how you might
Speaker 4: come back. I want to sign some light on you
Speaker 4: for a second. You're you're doing exactly what you're supposed
Speaker 4: to be doing right now. I hope you know. I
Speaker 4: hope you know that. Like I do feel really when
Speaker 4: I watch your like the ship where you like call
Speaker 4: the guy into the closet laugh, I'm not fucking entertaining
Speaker 4: that easy. Like I was laughing lou loud, like it
Speaker 4: was you had let's go, but what you're doing. I
Speaker 4: mean we talked about it on our podcast when you
Speaker 4: came on. For any of the Bust and fans that
Speaker 4: haven't seen it, let's shamelessly plug it. Go check it out.
Speaker 4: I was sweating profusely. I think I was hung over
Speaker 4: again or something something happen. Probably were I don't know
Speaker 4: what happened. You get me, you get me hot and bothered. Yeah, Johnny, Johnny,
Speaker 4: but you're doing uh, you're doing it like you're you
Speaker 4: got to. You got a little thing for this. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I feel like you can really crush it. You guys
Speaker 4: are doing great, especially for the social media world. This man,
Speaker 4: he's probably the best fall on Twitter. Like, you know,
Speaker 4: just go after it's really good.
Speaker 1: We're in that phase again, you're just getting complimented, well,
Speaker 1: learning to accept the compliment. Yes, that's a very difficult
Speaker 1: time of like yeah, it's like you want to hear it,
Speaker 1: but when you start to hear you're like, all right,
Speaker 1: that's enough.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Like I'm already smiling.
Speaker 4: I want you guys to know I'm happy for you
Speaker 4: because I know, I know, I know what it's like
Speaker 4: to be like, you know, the career, like you were
Speaker 4: fucking eat your everything in your life was about football,
Speaker 4: your entire life, like for the most part, like you
Speaker 4: were just that guy. You're like a gritty, fucking I'm
Speaker 4: gonna bully my way into the NFL. And you did it, dog, Yeah,
Speaker 4: and you did it. And then like that's gonna run
Speaker 4: its course. I don't know however long you're gonna do it. Still,
Speaker 4: but like it's obviously you're not an idiot. You're not
Speaker 4: a fucking idiot. Like you're paying attention, you know, but
Speaker 4: you're and you have that yeah, that little not confusion
Speaker 4: or just understanding what's next.
Speaker 3: And like absolutely I'm here to say you're doing exactly
Speaker 3: so you don't now, but I think I appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Man. Really good pick up playoff really yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 4: If I was a guy, I just pick you up
Speaker 4: just from morale. I don't know how you're a morale. Guys,
Speaker 4: there's a price for that. I'm still hey, the Raiders
Speaker 4: are still in play that I'm not pissed at the Raiders. Yeah, everyone,
Speaker 4: everyone's still in play. I take back, are you.
Speaker 3: Still is that a joke? Or you like still wanted
Speaker 3: to play? You want to play another year?
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, please just do us a huge favor.
Speaker 1: I know we've talked about it gets a little bit done. No,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit better when it's me and we'll
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Speaker 3: Say you do it.
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Speaker 1: of ghosts following the Boys, which I might have said
Speaker 1: that makes you a Tier three, but let's bump that
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Speaker 3: make sure you for sure bleed the part about Johnny
Speaker 3: doing anything.
Speaker 4: Make sure you for sure bleed that.
Speaker 2: No, man, It's it's kind of one of those things
Speaker 2: like I uh, I've talked about with a couple of people, like, uh,
Speaker 2: I'm very proud of like the career and everything I've had,
Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't change anything, do you think like continuing
Speaker 2: to play it would be for reasons that people I
Speaker 2: make kind of obvious with like the brand and having
Speaker 2: fun and playing into it, like the stress of you know,
Speaker 2: wondering where am I going to train every off season
Speaker 2: and constantly thinking about absolutely everything that revolves around football,
Speaker 2: right and being like getting that one percent fucking better
Speaker 2: and there's like anxiety with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go to make the team. I'm going to a
Speaker 3: different city this time.
Speaker 2: Like you gotta like you know, get quiet, put it
Speaker 2: over your head, reinvent yourself a little bit like that
Speaker 2: stress laying on the pillar and being like, yo, am
Speaker 2: I gonna be on this team? Like that type of
Speaker 2: those type of anxieties of kind of like gone, and
Speaker 2: it's more of like I enjoy playing because I know
Speaker 2: the ten year old will would be hype about what
Speaker 2: I'm doing and how I've kind of done my entire career.
Speaker 3: Like I feel at peace with a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2: So whether or not it happens, it's just, you know,
Speaker 2: that is what it is, Like I would enjoy playing again. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But as far as like that that want to like
Speaker 2: the obsession and the time and energy you got to
Speaker 2: put into a sport like football because it's a violent
Speaker 2: fucking game, right like you that's like a mentality that
Speaker 2: comes with it.
Speaker 3: And you know it's obviously it's like a bad.
Speaker 2: Thing to say or say it out loud, and with
Speaker 2: all the gems and the head coaches that listen to
Speaker 2: this podcast, you're right, But that kind of same drive
Speaker 2: that if I'm wanting to throw my head in the
Speaker 2: fan and put my face in the fan, just isn't
Speaker 2: there anymore?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah? It takes uh you guys like you gotta be
Speaker 4: kind of tapped to be like an NFL foot, like
Speaker 4: to take the fucking physical the just the physicality of
Speaker 4: what you guys do. Like and I was, I was
Speaker 4: an athlete, but like playing fucking baseball, would you know, like.
Speaker 3: Never heard of it?
Speaker 4: Never heard of it? No, But what you guys do,
Speaker 4: it's just like you guys are a different breed, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like and to be a regular
Speaker 4: person in society, like you see a lot of guys
Speaker 4: have trouble with it. It's just like you're literally fucking
Speaker 4: running into a wall every day. Like if I can't
Speaker 4: think of something else in the world that I want
Speaker 4: I don't want to happen to me to get well,
Speaker 4: do what you do literally just get pushed and shoved
Speaker 4: and fucking trying to get thrown out of the way
Speaker 4: every fucking you know what I mean, Like you're literally
Speaker 4: a trench. Just are gritty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a little grind out there, but it's
Speaker 1: one of those things where it's so hard for you
Speaker 1: to see and deal with. I can put myself in
Speaker 1: any game I've played right now and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of what you do. Yeah, like you
Speaker 1: doing music for me to think, how am I gonna
Speaker 1: sit down and go write music?
Speaker 3: Put it be together? What's this course going to be?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 1: How's gonna make it sound good? And then I wonder
Speaker 1: if people are gonna like it? Like that's a tough
Speaker 1: I can't imagine myself going to do that. It's it's
Speaker 1: the same thing over here, like I can. I can
Speaker 1: play football right now, and in my head it's I
Speaker 1: know every play, I know my techniques. I know is
Speaker 1: they're more of a finesse to your position than people.
Speaker 1: What's what kind of player you are? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. I'm because for a guy that's just more
Speaker 1: relatively athletic. I don't know if you guys have heard,
Speaker 1: but I can I can move. I can move, and
Speaker 1: that's that's a strong suit of my game. Like a
Speaker 1: lot of dudes are very overbearing, very like heavy guys,
Speaker 1: and I'm a slimmer three oh seven, three oh eight,
Speaker 1: where it's like, what are what are my strengths? Well,
Speaker 1: my strengths is quickness and you know, leverage and where
Speaker 1: I can kind of dip and move and bend a little.
Speaker 4: Bit better little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I I definitely play a bit of an
Speaker 1: edge too, So if you kind of a lot of
Speaker 1: guys like to think like the big kind of cliche tattoo.
Speaker 3: A lot of guys gets like the lion.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I would get a gnat
Speaker 1: like because for me, I'm like, I'm just gonna bug
Speaker 1: you all for sixty minutes.
Speaker 3: I have better conditioning than you. I'm gonna be around you,
Speaker 3: bugging you, poking you, prying you like. That's my game.
Speaker 1: That's a little different. And that sounds terrible, terrible like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can see it. And that's about anything else at
Speaker 1: the bottle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 3: Comeback season, I said, Taylor's that dude. Now, comeback season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we thought it was last year.
Speaker 4: It's wrong. We were wrong.
Speaker 3: What is time?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always come back this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it still is exactly always come back the years
Speaker 3: a year.
Speaker 1: Right? Who made that role this year?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: We appreciate both of you coming on.
Speaker 2: Oh hey we got we got a good tear talk.
Speaker 2: So we're doing uh, we're doing tear talk. Now implement
Speaker 2: this segment called tear talk. Today's tear talk is most
Speaker 2: attractive fictional characters. Okay, so Jack, Jackie boy back there,
Speaker 2: just like Jack.
Speaker 4: Great mullet, great man. One of the better mullet mustache
Speaker 4: combinations i've seen it. It's Hey, that's.
Speaker 1: I said, you want a mic wave? Now you so, Bro,
Speaker 1: I haven't let I didn't even know that this dude
Speaker 1: had music like that. Like I just got on him
Speaker 1: and I haven't stopped listening to him.
Speaker 5: Love it.
Speaker 4: You will fire? Are you guys gonna be able to come?
Speaker 4: Or now you're not gonna be able to?
Speaker 1: What's the date?
Speaker 3: The nineteenth? I can do that an hour, don't don't.
Speaker 3: I'm not coming, Mike. I'm truly gonna do my best.
Speaker 4: The boys that I was doing. Well's got this new
Speaker 4: thing he's trying out.
Speaker 3: There's this new gig I got going on. I gotta
Speaker 3: be too, but I'm gonna wait it out.
Speaker 4: Well, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I'm legitimately gonna try like I'm gonna try and yeah,
Speaker 2: finagle that a little bit.
Speaker 3: I want to be there.
Speaker 4: I'm hype for you, bro.
Speaker 3: I'm still You're still going on coming but coming, but
Speaker 3: like the support let me if you can, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know what the talking. Bro, we're still in
Speaker 3: the pods keys, are we still? I am?
Speaker 2: I am fired up for you bro, I think it's
Speaker 2: cool you're getting back on tour and doing all that stuff.
Speaker 4: Next to Jack's still talking to got the pot going,
Speaker 4: They're still on it, We're still on I guess yeah.
Speaker 2: I was just kind of telling him I'm hype. I'm
Speaker 2: hyped out for all your success like it fires me up.
Speaker 2: And I will say I'm gonna pull it out too.
Speaker 2: And make sure to read this verbatimas one thing that
Speaker 2: you did for me that helped me a lot when
Speaker 2: my mom passed away, you sent me a nice mestress.
Speaker 2: And the boy's going to do his best not to
Speaker 2: get a little, a little teary at about it. I
Speaker 2: don't remember it, but you reached out to me, and
Speaker 2: what did you say? At some point, we are the eldest,
Speaker 2: we are the leaders. Take a moment, com just breathe
Speaker 2: through this. When our parents goes, when we truly become ourselves. Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm vulnerable with you, guys, because I.
Speaker 1: Until then, there's always a little kid inside uh, inside
Speaker 1: of us somewhere who calls mom or dad when something
Speaker 1: is wrong. This is essential, This is an essential part
Speaker 1: of our self mastery. It's your time. I have no
Speaker 1: doubt you will absolutely body this and become even better.
Speaker 1: Time to make her proud and uh, you know you're
Speaker 1: then it was just I'm here to talk if you
Speaker 1: need it, Send you love your way.
Speaker 4: Brother.
Speaker 3: But that helped me a lot. I appreciate it. We
Speaker 3: just had a moment, Taylor. We just had a moment
Speaker 3: that the big moment but for real that that uh
Speaker 3: wrote me out.
Speaker 2: And I have an incredible support system, Like Taylor came
Speaker 2: to the funeral right away some yeah, because he sent
Speaker 2: me a message that like really resonated with me.
Speaker 3: And it's a message that people.
Speaker 2: What's crazy about it is I got back on the
Speaker 2: pod and I did it from Vegas, like maybe two
Speaker 2: weeks later. We took like a week off and stuff.
Speaker 2: But I felt it would be powerful because obviously death
Speaker 2: is like death is a part of life. So I
Speaker 2: talked my way through it on the podcast because everybody
Speaker 2: was obviously reaching out and doing all this, and uh,
Speaker 2: a lot of people have reached out to me since then.
Speaker 2: I'll check my d ms whether they had somebody that
Speaker 2: passed already, somebody who's just recently passed, And your message
Speaker 2: is one that I share is a constant thing.
Speaker 3: Because that really helped.
Speaker 2: Me kind of like wrap my mind around it just
Speaker 2: a little bit more because you're you're doing all the
Speaker 2: things to wrap your mind around. Like I said, like
Speaker 2: my family, my friends, my best friends, my my circle,
Speaker 2: like everyone rallied you. I just wanted to say that,
Speaker 2: not that it it's something that I felt like needed
Speaker 2: to be said publicly, but I did want to like appreciated.
Speaker 4: I remember, I remember talking, I remember talking about it
Speaker 4: and and I could, you know, I know, I didn't
Speaker 4: know how I have both my parents still, so that
Speaker 4: was coming. You know, I've lost people in my life,
Speaker 4: but I've actually you know, when we talked about reading
Speaker 4: and the things that I'm spend a lot of my
Speaker 4: days on, like death is one of them, and just
Speaker 4: the idea of growing up and what happens in these hardships,
Speaker 4: and I don't know, it just felt, you know, felt
Speaker 4: like the right thing.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm happy, man. That's that's great.
Speaker 2: And like you've always been, you know, I know, you're
Speaker 2: like Mike's that and you got all this stuff. But
Speaker 2: the like one of the big reasons like I follow
Speaker 2: and like kind of like look up to you in
Speaker 2: a way is the stuff that you read, stuff that
Speaker 2: you share you know, you.
Speaker 3: Know when I'm like, hey, what are the books? When
Speaker 3: you put me on the Seven.
Speaker 2: Spiritual Laws and stuff like that, but I've just always
Speaker 2: been like, you know, yeah, it's always been something I've
Speaker 2: thought about.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. What's the Seven Spiritual Laws? That's what
Speaker 3: it's called. Yeah, you gotta read that one. And it's
Speaker 3: so like, even if it's not your thing.
Speaker 1: Like it's right up my all four Agreements type of stuff,
Speaker 1: like I'm big into that for me. Will and I
Speaker 1: talked about this a lot because it's like when you
Speaker 1: grow up, it's like reading what the funk would ever?
Speaker 3: I could watch TV? You know, once you start reading.
Speaker 3: I was starting him on the phone.
Speaker 1: It's like I have a hard time justifying reading something
Speaker 1: that's not like making me better as a human being, too,
Speaker 1: Like to read something that's nonfiction, Like I I'm in
Speaker 1: the Harry Potters right now, I'm watching the movies. I've
Speaker 1: never really seen the movies before, kind of diving into
Speaker 1: that given my resume, who I think, who I think
Speaker 1: is what? And I'm like, if I were to go
Speaker 1: back and read those books, my wasting time that I
Speaker 1: could be working on myself.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying totally relate to that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't read fiction. What I will say though,
Speaker 3: that's why I said nonfiction.
Speaker 4: I meant fiction. What I what I will say is
Speaker 4: like it isn't as a beautiful thing to just change
Speaker 4: your mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah there's power in that. Yeah, absolutely don't be a reader.
Speaker 1: Now, it's just like it's something as simple as we
Speaker 1: talk about in this podcast all time, Like we can
Speaker 1: just try to say whatever because I could change my
Speaker 1: mind at any point. And now that's my opinion, right.
Speaker 4: You know, like a lot of people, if you look
Speaker 4: around in the world, everyone's so attached to the what
Speaker 4: they think is why why does what you think about something?
Speaker 4: And why does everyone need to feel the need that
Speaker 4: everyone else needs to agree? Yeah, you know, like it's
Speaker 4: a weird construct in society. You look around, there's a
Speaker 4: lot of a lot of trouble because everyone's butting heads,
Speaker 4: you know, but like it's coming from an attachment to
Speaker 4: their beliefs. You think about the political system and you
Speaker 4: think about it's all these attachments.
Speaker 3: Oh this is what we think this fuck them, We're
Speaker 3: gonna blow them up, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like, the fuck is that that's crazy to me, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like it's crazy to a lot
Speaker 4: of people, but like, you know, it's like you said
Speaker 4: that about Harry Potter. I'm the same way, like I
Speaker 4: you know, like they'll give me shit like I don't
Speaker 4: really watch a lot of stuff I don't. I don't
Speaker 4: and a little rigidly like we'll say the same thing,
Speaker 4: like I don't want to read it if it's not
Speaker 4: if it's not actually supplementing my life and growing from it. Right,
Speaker 4: But even that's kind of a wrong construct. Someone someone
Speaker 4: said this to me recently. I opened my eyes to
Speaker 4: It's just like no, like, if you read a story,
Speaker 4: it can be really inspiring in a whole way that
Speaker 4: you can't even fucking imagine, you know, like you're using
Speaker 4: your imagination to you can read a fictional story and like,
Speaker 4: you know, like you're using another side of your brain
Speaker 4: to like envision and imagine what the characters look like
Speaker 4: and and who they are and how you know everything.
Speaker 4: It's just it's it changed my mind. I'm going to
Speaker 4: start doing it. But I'm the same way. I haven't
Speaker 4: read any fiction because I'm I don't feel like I
Speaker 4: have enough time, you know.
Speaker 1: It's unique how there's like we've talked about, there's so
Speaker 1: many different ways to live your life. And one of
Speaker 1: those things that people are doing now even making money,
Speaker 1: is like video games. But for me and I think
Speaker 1: will kind of feel this place. So it's like kind
Speaker 1: of like we're kind of treating life. It's like a
Speaker 1: video game now, Like instead of like getting all this
Speaker 1: stuff in this video game, it's like how can we
Speaker 1: grow unfeed our plants on the on then the real
Speaker 1: world essentially, right, but now everything's going with the damn metaverse.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, do I need to start playing video games?
Speaker 3: Like, like, what's the deal. I'll be honest, I will
Speaker 3: not be a subscriber to the metaverse. It. On the
Speaker 3: other way, I'm going to the mountain he gets some
Speaker 3: real estate in the metaverse called the highs Man. Yeah
Speaker 3: you can. I probably will. I probably will. Yeah, only
Speaker 3: Steve's hanging out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, build your ranch out them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll do that.
Speaker 4: But I will not be the guy like puts on
Speaker 4: a headset and like spends his night doing doing that.
Speaker 1: I get caught up in a couple of games here
Speaker 1: and there, but for the most part, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: takes away from sleep, takes away from the kids then,
Speaker 1: and it's just like what am I doing here?
Speaker 4: I'm more video game guy. I couldn't disagree with what's
Speaker 4: going on.
Speaker 3: Really, do you think video games? But I've been playing
Speaker 3: in a while. But like when we had our crew,
Speaker 3: we're playing like Rocket League Risk, Like, let me know,
Speaker 3: when you want to get on the rocket, I get it.
Speaker 3: The Chubby Hooper is the doll in there.
Speaker 4: No, I was just Chubby Hooper Hooper forty four up
Speaker 4: forty four. Yeah, hey, whatever, whatever fucking map makes you
Speaker 4: have a good time and enjoy yourself. Like I think
Speaker 4: it's fucking as long as you're not hurting other people,
Speaker 4: like fuck, you know, like video game for him, reading
Speaker 4: for me, somebody else, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but it's also one of those things like
Speaker 1: where if you spend so much time doing something that's
Speaker 1: like not helping you, you end up getting jaded when
Speaker 1: you're older and you see everybody else kind of like
Speaker 1: trying to grow and get better. Now you're mad at
Speaker 1: everyone else.
Speaker 3: Because you didn't take the time to work on yourself.
Speaker 3: Defintely validity to that, right, yeah, you know, definitely validity.
Speaker 4: It's what game you're playing right, Yeah, choose your game,
Speaker 4: constantly evaluate what you're doing in which direction you're going,
Speaker 4: and fucking keep trying right a wrong way of doing it,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like that's true, this freedom
Speaker 4: in that, like I don't know why, it's definitely inspiring.
Speaker 3: I've been inspired by other other great men, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 4: That's what reading is right or to a certain extent,
Speaker 4: and that that's that's like fruitful for me, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 3: But everyone everyone, like there is no right or wrong
Speaker 3: way of doing life at all.
Speaker 4: You know that there's definitely universal truths and laws you
Speaker 4: don't want to break, like hurt, harming people and doing
Speaker 4: shit like that. You know, But there's no rhyme, there's
Speaker 4: there's there's there's no rhyme or reason to any of it.
Speaker 4: We all we're all just making it up as we go,
Speaker 4: you know. That's how I approach it, fuck and try
Speaker 4: to share it, you know, and try to help people.
Speaker 3: Like I didn't know I had that impact on you
Speaker 3: with that. I know it was.
Speaker 4: It's just what I was inclined to do, you know.
Speaker 4: But that's also how I approached the podcast. Like, like
Speaker 4: I said, they're not sexy conversations. If you're not into it,
Speaker 4: you're just like, I mean, there's a kind of let's
Speaker 4: not sleep on another saw conversations. No, there are.
Speaker 3: I think I think a conversay're my version. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: was gonna say that. Yeah, but it's not damn Baseerian
Speaker 3: type exactly.
Speaker 4: He's not like, Oh, I could be like I have,
Speaker 4: I could fill up five seasons of podcast episodes of
Speaker 4: crazy stories of partying and celebrities and bullshit of living
Speaker 4: in LA for seven years and touring for ten, you know,
Speaker 4: but like, yeah, he tries to sprinkle that in as
Speaker 4: much as he can on the podcast, but it's just
Speaker 4: not what I'm trying to you know, I'd rather I
Speaker 4: think it's the most powerful thing. It's just like spreading
Speaker 4: a good word, you know, and maybe helping people that
Speaker 4: need it if if they.
Speaker 3: Want it, you know.
Speaker 1: With that man, the philosophies that have stood the test
Speaker 1: of time to your talk, shall we.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Women, huh, it's only I mean, you can do whatever
Speaker 1: you want, a new.
Speaker 3: Ball, whole new como.
Speaker 1: I would like to say too that there has not
Speaker 1: been a time roup this entire time, and it's it's
Speaker 1: irked me in the back of my head, not on
Speaker 1: the screen.
Speaker 3: We got a we got a hot cast outcast on here,
Speaker 3: holy ship talent, hey putting work over here. We haven't
Speaker 3: had to look at the scream once either. That's when
Speaker 3: you know it's a banger. I had to give you,
Speaker 3: guys my all. You know, yeah, technical the skis balls
Speaker 3: back come. Well, it's a good ball, the solid ball.
Speaker 3: It's not your ball though, not all good ball, smaller
Speaker 3: small red ball, but it's not.
Speaker 1: No, it'll bounce, not just a bounce, it'll bounce, it
Speaker 1: a roll.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it should be harder.
Speaker 1: So I guess if we're looking at Princess Jasmine on
Speaker 1: this thing right now, age is not a factor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I already know how I'm going thinking
Speaker 4: about Homegirl on the on the bottom half of that.
Speaker 2: We tear him now would be a tier one, Tier two,
Speaker 2: Tier three good one bad one is good one's good.
Speaker 3: Three bad, question three is not bad.
Speaker 4: Taking into account their persona and personalities and stuff, whatever goes.
Speaker 3: I don't know any of them, what I mean, whatever
Speaker 3: your truth is. If you don't know them that well,
Speaker 3: then yeah, then you just go straight off. My tears okay, cool,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Lola Bunny get out of bounds. Hey,
Speaker 3: Lola was thrown her back.
Speaker 4: She's got something special for being a rabbit.
Speaker 3: Thing that kind of throwst me off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole word being a rabbit is tail in
Speaker 1: the ears.
Speaker 3: Why was not really bothering me right now?
Speaker 1: Five? Oh geez ye, dude, Daphne is so we're just
Speaker 1: going top five. It's not a tier one, two, three,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, five tiers. Five tiers.
Speaker 3: We're rating one.
Speaker 1: I'm throwing Daphne to the wolves. Okay, hold on, what
Speaker 1: that's how I'm coming favorite. I know it's not my
Speaker 1: it's actually my favorite. Sad on here.
Speaker 3: I don't think Daphne from Scooby Doo I get the merrit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I would say I get the merit, but I'm not
Speaker 3: thrower out. I think so you got a lot of
Speaker 3: Bunny on there. Scroll up. Not that I'm in the
Speaker 3: beast reality.
Speaker 5: Not really.
Speaker 3: The girl on the bottom with the cleavage, she's hot.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go out of the gate.
Speaker 4: My truth is Jessica Rabbit number one. Yeah, I just
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's also like a I think it's
Speaker 4: a it's a picture selection as well. Like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: that picture.
Speaker 3: I think she's represented very well here. You could have
Speaker 3: put her in you could have put her in a
Speaker 3: turtle neck. Yeah right, So who's go she go? She's
Speaker 3: from kim possible. I might have to go her her
Speaker 3: below Dashne.
Speaker 4: You don't like you like her lesson death?
Speaker 3: So you like Daphney the most?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's get this in order here. What are
Speaker 3: we doing if you're gonna do your your your tears?
Speaker 4: So Tier one for me here one is Jessica Rabbit. Right,
Speaker 4: let's go down here. I mean, don't judge me, but
Speaker 4: I'm going Lola Bunny too, has a tail. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: definitely a fucking bunny, but she's hot. I'm going a
Speaker 4: wholesome vibe in there. Yeah, I'm going. I'm going and
Speaker 4: Cass and then she's you know, it just feels like
Speaker 4: it's a classic, a classic milflok.
Speaker 3: I think I'm going Jasmine for she Go five and
Speaker 3: Daphanie's Daphne's don will mention that's tough, you guys.
Speaker 7: I'm going Lola Bunny one, oh god, and she can
Speaker 7: hoop Lola bunnies one.
Speaker 3: Why are you trying to produce athlete bunnies.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to get heavily bunnies. I'm going Lola Bunny.
Speaker 7: I'm going, Uh, I'm going Jasmine, I'm going for him.
Speaker 7: I'm going Jasmine number two, I'm going she goes number three.
Speaker 7: I like a little edge on me. Four Jessica Rabbit
Speaker 7: and five Wire going at Cass.
Speaker 3: So Daphne's out again?
Speaker 4: Yeah, da you know not my style? Yeah she can.
Speaker 3: You know. I feel like Daphne is someone I might
Speaker 3: want to start a life with. Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's got She's got her life with the well
Speaker 1: she does cruise around with two other men, another woman
Speaker 1: and a dog.
Speaker 4: So chasing ghosts, chasing ghosts, problems, a wholesome vibemins. I
Speaker 4: feel like she's a natural problem solver.
Speaker 1: So and Cass is that wholesome vibe?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what That's where I get at. That's what
Speaker 4: you get.
Speaker 3: I think you're married, Yeah, you're married, Cass. Okay, what
Speaker 3: about you boys?
Speaker 1: Man, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Jasmine. I like
Speaker 1: that exotic look Cass from b movie one two.
Speaker 2: And then I think I'm gonna go to the top.
Speaker 2: Jessica Rabbit. Three, Uh, Lola Bunny, four. Now my my
Speaker 2: three and four they can be interchanging.
Speaker 3: Flip and flip flop.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 3: Five is Daphne, and I'm not even gonna put she
Speaker 3: on the equation.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw in a special shout out to my
Speaker 2: girl Patty Mayonnaise.
Speaker 3: Got no curves. Yeah, but when I was a young
Speaker 3: gun dude, when I was when I was young boy, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Patty manse at it all. Damn Petty Man. No free shoutouts,
Speaker 3: free shadows.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Scroll down for me real quick, let me see everybody
Speaker 3: stay right there.
Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know. For some for whatever reason, I
Speaker 1: feel like Aunt caskta be my number one because she
Speaker 1: looks the most human.
Speaker 3: There's a reason the mommy Probably I got Jasmine at two.
Speaker 3: Scroll down for me. What do you guys say like that?
Speaker 3: Scroll down for me for me?
Speaker 1: Go down for Joe, Lulla Bunny at three, which I
Speaker 1: feel like Lula Bunny is now taking two and Jasmine's
Speaker 1: at three. For me, I was it was a quick change. Four,
Speaker 1: I'm going Daphne go scroll the top for me. Five,
Speaker 1: I'm going she go and just rabbits out.
Speaker 3: You don't like the red. Here's the deal.
Speaker 1: If I'm hearing these women, I'm not just thinking about
Speaker 1: one night. And if I'm thinking about one night in general,
Speaker 1: she still might be out because why she's trying way
Speaker 1: too hard. She's she's not only got the cleavage going,
Speaker 1: but she's got the side side tit as well. And
Speaker 1: I don't like her photo.
Speaker 3: I don't like it.
Speaker 4: Just it's not for me.
Speaker 3: It's just not for me.
Speaker 4: I agree, thank you, I agree too much for me.
Speaker 4: She's trying too hard.
Speaker 3: You know, she's always leading on that damn rabbit. I
Speaker 3: don't want a life with her, that's for damn fairy,
Speaker 3: but I do.
Speaker 4: That's Los Angeles. You want to take it for a
Speaker 4: spin when I look at so write a write a
Speaker 4: few songs about her. Yeah, I just feel like she's
Speaker 4: been taking for so many spins. Yea argue believe what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Allegedly, allegedly, but you never know. I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: if of all these women though, if I was single
Speaker 1: and she and she came into the bar and came
Speaker 1: on to me.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, I'm probably not leaving with I'm probably not
Speaker 4: leaving with the bunny, but like we're not gonna.
Speaker 3: Leave with the bunny because I think people will judge.
Speaker 4: Guys are gonna see me.
Speaker 7: I don't want to go park Me and Lula the
Speaker 7: Bunny getting a bucket together in the bushes in the bushes, since.
Speaker 2: You don't have a pot about all of your you know,
Speaker 2: legendary tales, legedly, could there be a tail you share
Speaker 2: on the bus For a little bit of locker room talk?
Speaker 3: Which one should he tell?
Speaker 4: John?
Speaker 3: Look at how excited the water bottle story? And this
Speaker 3: is our official locker room talk. This is locker room talk.
Speaker 4: Right, I'll do the talk.
Speaker 3: I'll do it for you guys. Let's go there we go.
Speaker 4: And the fact of the matter is I'm not famous
Speaker 4: enough where people gonna go find this two hours and
Speaker 4: twenty minutes in and be like this, So.
Speaker 3: You shows have to be famous.
Speaker 4: Hats for this.
Speaker 1: I think I've really found a home with this one.
Speaker 3: I think I found out how I like this one.
Speaker 3: It looks like home. It goes with the pink right here,
Speaker 3: So I'm happy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, So last time we're on tour, it's
Speaker 4: only right we tell a tour story.
Speaker 3: It's like almost four years ago now.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, there's a tour bus, there's the bunks
Speaker 4: and then there's the back area, which I trans it's
Speaker 4: for me. It's a it's a bed, a bedroom. So
Speaker 4: you know, back there with a few gals simultaneously. Okay,
Speaker 4: uh in three two okay, Yeah, we're.
Speaker 3: In Middle America somewhere, so you can just use your imagination.
Speaker 1: In Michigan, Michigan. Is there a town in Michigan. We're
Speaker 1: talking about Detroit.
Speaker 4: I don't even know, somewhere somewhere in the I think
Speaker 4: it might have been Michigan. Two fine gals, you know,
Speaker 4: I had a good rapport of them. Uh, they enjoyed
Speaker 4: the show, so so making it onto the bus and yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, we engage and have a good time. Uh
Speaker 4: back there, it's one of those nights. Is this a
Speaker 4: summer tour?
Speaker 3: But he's still sweating, but he's still swat I was
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 4: For three hours. I mean, when you get two good
Speaker 4: ones and they got a good rapport with each other.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to be present there and just make the
Speaker 4: most of it, you know what I mean. I'm in
Speaker 4: and out break. The bus is leaving in like a
Speaker 4: few hours. I'm trying to you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we did. Wow. I used to be
Speaker 3: like a different guy, you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was unhinged. There's a lot of rage at.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so you know, I think, I think we're
Speaker 4: a past bus call and I'm just having a blast
Speaker 4: with them, and it's and it's an extended period of.
Speaker 3: Time, multiple rounds.
Speaker 4: In between where we're like acting like a couple, like
Speaker 4: a conglomerate, like us three, Like we're I'm laying down,
Speaker 4: they're laying one under each arm. We're talking, we're sharing stories.
Speaker 4: I'm learning about them, they're learning about me. Those types
Speaker 4: of things. Yeah, but yeah, multiple multiple sessions. I keep
Speaker 4: going up I'm doused in sweat, I'm working hard. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like I'm more sweaty than I was when I got
Speaker 4: off stage. This is this was This was my show
Speaker 4: more or less for me. It was my passions through
Speaker 4: the roof. And I keep going back up there, and
Speaker 4: these guys suck down waters because everyone's getting drunk and
Speaker 4: the waters are gone and we get tons of waters
Speaker 4: from the venue every night.
Speaker 3: They're gone, and my mouth's parched, like really really parched, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean. So I go back there. I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 4: it's gotta be what you know, this is like halfway
Speaker 4: too too. I'm like, this's gotta be water. Everyone's asking
Speaker 4: for water. They're asking for water. I'm asking for water.
Speaker 4: Everyone wants the water. So so I'm so I'm fucking searching.
Speaker 4: I'm like in there, it's dark, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: like fairly dark. I'm searching each under. I find a bottle.
Speaker 4: I found a bottle. I'm like, jackpot felt great, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. I was ready for one more round,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, unhydrated, gather ourselves and uh yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, I was a gentleman, so I I let
Speaker 4: them drink it first, and uh they both take a
Speaker 4: swig and they passed to me and they kind of
Speaker 4: have like this weird reaction and just like I don't know,
Speaker 4: like everyone's you know, your mouse parts, like your taste
Speaker 4: is a little off, so you're like, I've been drinking
Speaker 4: all night? Is my is my?
Speaker 3: Is my palette? Weird right now?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I take it and I just slug it.
Speaker 4: The whole thing, well I slug like I slug like yeah,
Speaker 4: like two or three it was more or less filled
Speaker 4: to the top, so like, yeah, like at least half
Speaker 4: of it and about.
Speaker 3: Three gulpes in. Oh no, I realized I was drinking
Speaker 3: my own pea, and so that stop you from around.
Speaker 4: So so you guys will respect this. I couldn't. I
Speaker 4: couldn't let them know. I couldn't know because they drank
Speaker 4: it first, and they were they didn't overreact. They're just
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, they're from Michigan, they're they're hard nos there
Speaker 3: hard no, Yeah, Midwest people, the blue collar group. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and yeah.
Speaker 4: I realized it, and I made a split decision to
Speaker 4: just act like nothing was wrong. Really, And.
Speaker 3: I can't remember if we got after one more time
Speaker 3: or not.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think so, because I think you just get
Speaker 3: more deadured when you drink and be.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'd never done it, but I knew
Speaker 4: what was happening, and then I right away I fast
Speaker 4: forward to the morning when I when it was like
Speaker 4: I had peed in a bottle. I had peed in
Speaker 4: a bottle because someone was in there and there was
Speaker 4: like I was in a rush and I had like
Speaker 4: peed in a water bottle, and it just I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's that's what happened, Like that's of ship that happens
Speaker 3: on a tour bus.
Speaker 4: But if I had drank it first, I would have
Speaker 4: been like spin it out and been like fuck, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Cool? But I didn't want to ruin the vibe.
Speaker 4: We had such a great rapport back there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I.
Speaker 7: Actually got another one. If I got another water bottlebody
Speaker 7: find another.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I mean that was that was really more
Speaker 3: or less the story, right? Am I missing anything else?
Speaker 4: They drank O P Then you.
Speaker 2: Got back in the saddle from one of the back
Speaker 2: and yeah, were you guys? I got back in making
Speaker 2: out after.
Speaker 3: I don't think there was any there's any Maybe they were,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4: But they went on their way fulfilled and all type
Speaker 4: of mic all types of fluid. They felt fulfilled, and
Speaker 4: I felt fulfilled. I went out and told the guys immediately,
Speaker 4: and you know, they went on their merry way, and
Speaker 4: I've never seen them again or spoken to them again.
Speaker 3: But were nothing the best? Huh? They didn't DM you
Speaker 3: or nothing? No, They're like, hey, did we drink your
Speaker 3: pedia last week?
Speaker 4: I've been thinking, I've been thinking about see this.
Speaker 3: I knew something was.
Speaker 7: Worried about that fucking it didn't taste like a buffinay keep.
Speaker 4: Keep some contact with every girl that now standing you
Speaker 4: did talk about the stories. I'm literally not uh yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm just that was a great That was a great man.
Speaker 4: I was like one of the only ones that was
Speaker 4: like something like like that. You know a lot of
Speaker 4: it's this fucking risky ship like that, you know, but
Speaker 4: it was. It was hilarious, and I I actually, for whatever,
Speaker 4: it was just so fucking funny that like I didn't
Speaker 4: I didn't even really get I didn't have a chance to,
Speaker 4: but I didn't really even get that grossed out.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that says about me. It wasn't
Speaker 3: that in the moment, Like.
Speaker 1: I was just like, like, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: other fun you know what you're supposed to do after
Speaker 1: I would have done exactly what you did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think ye made the right move. I made
Speaker 3: the right move there everyone.
Speaker 1: No one was harmed in that film.
Speaker 3: And at the same time, you know.
Speaker 2: Embarios, You're like, is there wagon get away with? This
Speaker 2: answer was quickly yes, and you went that.
Speaker 3: I don't think I could have said anything. That was
Speaker 3: the way to keep your head swipple. Yeah, it was
Speaker 3: a big time.
Speaker 4: Thank you guys. It means a lot. You know it
Speaker 4: means a lot you guys.
Speaker 3: It was a heady play.
Speaker 4: It was quart awareness, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 4: had to make a play, made the play. That's all
Speaker 4: I had at the moment. But yeah, I mean, fuck Torah.
Speaker 4: Living on a bus with twelve dudes, busting with the boys, guys,
Speaker 4: get it a little bit. You know, like you're in
Speaker 4: a small space for extended periods of time with a
Speaker 4: lot of guys. So you know, there's a there's a
Speaker 4: grit that that you earn. There's a grit there's like.
Speaker 3: A tough skin you earned right with the amount of
Speaker 3: time we spent. Don't come on the bus without a
Speaker 3: lunch bail.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just gotta be ready to put your hard
Speaker 4: hat on and figure it out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And that's what we do. So that's standing times. You
Speaker 3: got a drinker on pea more all of the story.
Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate you for coming on anything we got
Speaker 2: to get out of. Anything else about Skeezy, Well.
Speaker 3: Skeez We just dropped his first record, did you hear it?
Speaker 4: I love my homies. I mean you're busy.
Speaker 3: I've seen on Yeah, media check it out.
Speaker 4: I think you guys will love the song because he
Speaker 4: just put out his first album song with us.
Speaker 3: I'm featured on it.
Speaker 4: Okay, cool, he has, he has, but we're working on
Speaker 4: a bunch of records for him and uh yeah, we're
Speaker 4: gonna start. We're gonna start kind of sending it for
Speaker 4: him pretty much.
Speaker 1: Let's get that album, that album, the Xbox Handle over time,
Speaker 1: Chubby Hooper forty four, Chubby Hooper forty Me know, if.
Speaker 4: You need me in Rocket League or we're been a
Speaker 4: lot of guys hollering us you to play after.
Speaker 3: Well, we could get him in the Rocket League. You
Speaker 3: guys got a great fan base. Yeah, we had a squad, dude,
Speaker 3: the two ones really ripping. Great culture being being built
Speaker 3: in a short period of time. Yeah, if relatively speaking,
Speaker 3: has been very short. Tough to do.
Speaker 4: I hope you guys know that, Like it's not. I mean,
Speaker 4: I know you guys do, but people say that you
Speaker 4: kind of like I see so many guys who have
Speaker 4: are great guys and cool and that we got money
Speaker 4: in a good setup and no X Y and Z
Speaker 4: and all the famous people in.
Speaker 3: Front, and they can't get it going. Like people have
Speaker 3: to care about you, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 3: tough to do.
Speaker 1: So we tell we tell our fans all the time,
Speaker 1: like the people, we wouldn't be any this would be
Speaker 1: done if no one watched, and.
Speaker 4: So we appreciate it literally right like you just wouldn't
Speaker 4: be doing it, Like it's like there'd be no point.
Speaker 4: Will would be on the corner right now, just looking.
Speaker 3: For a job looking up. I'd be training three times,
Speaker 3: trying to get back.
Speaker 4: You know, you gotta well, you gotta spout to students
Speaker 4: and ranch where whenever, wherever we are whenever.
Speaker 3: If it all goes bad with the family coming over
Speaker 3: to the ranch, I'll come to. I'll come to. You're welcome,
Speaker 3: You're welcome. We need that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I listen, I might want to hang out though,
Speaker 1: you know any time, anytime, sir, we could always end
Speaker 1: up in the same city, just traveling around because you're
Speaker 1: no mad man.
Speaker 3: What happens, sir, And I'm behind you bro a lot.
Speaker 3: You know you're a good dude. But also the Nebraska tie,
Speaker 3: like go big Leg. We need needs your help.
Speaker 4: But I mean, this is a great opportunity to have
Speaker 4: him on this, but it needs your help, just putting
Speaker 4: the tier ones on. Yes, boys, are you guys.
Speaker 1: You guys, let me sit in man. When we do
Speaker 1: our ads on Monday, we'll make sure to plug.
Speaker 3: Them s R. Let's definitely do busting with the boys.
Speaker 3: I think this is a guy.
Speaker 4: He's only as the dude who is my creative for
Speaker 4: all my stuff. So this is all his designs and
Speaker 4: and it's really doing really well here. If you guys
Speaker 4: go out of Nashville, like you guys don't really go
Speaker 4: out and.
Speaker 3: Bars and ship, dude not as much anymore. You can
Speaker 3: go anywhere seeing im in Nashville, especially doing really well.
Speaker 3: But this will obviously help.
Speaker 4: But I'd love to do it. I texted you about it,
Speaker 4: doing a busting a busting collab, could say busting with
Speaker 4: the boys in that in that cursive. That's the kind
Speaker 4: of our staple fun on the side, I don't know
Speaker 4: all that him creatively directed.
Speaker 3: May if you want to do it, dude, we can
Speaker 3: do it, yeah for sure. And then how are the
Speaker 3: chuck buds good? Have they been going well?
Speaker 4: I think so?
Speaker 2: I mean, you talk with Alison, A lot of that
Speaker 2: stuff is kind of like you know, ye, Alison says
Speaker 2: we're gonna do more than you know.
Speaker 4: Who's become a buddy of mine. Just through that as
Speaker 4: Michael Chandler really bro's the man.
Speaker 3: He can chuck a beer too.
Speaker 4: The chug budds we started talking he bodied doing in
Speaker 4: a chrug race. I'm not the best, But what are
Speaker 4: you talking about in the chuck bud game? But we're not.
Speaker 3: We're not talking about never really what is it about
Speaker 3: the chuck? But you just can't get the open? Can
Speaker 3: you see it? It's on tape that I've lost a
Speaker 3: couple of matches. So I just think bounce it back
Speaker 3: from you're in your own head about it a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I got to open the third a little bit more.
Speaker 4: I gotta get a little I'll take you behind the
Speaker 4: behind the bus and we'll go go back behind with
Speaker 4: you many funny dude.
Speaker 3: It's tough boys. Yeah. But on the chuck thing, it's
Speaker 3: I don't chug that fast, just in general.
Speaker 2: When he says that we get we have this little
Speaker 2: bit where I'm housing water and I just go slow
Speaker 2: and they just hype me up all around.
Speaker 3: Then I'm crushing.
Speaker 4: I've seen that. I've seen that. The sarcasm. You got
Speaker 4: a good sarcasm thing going on. Just keep playing it on,
Speaker 4: Gotta keep planning it on.
Speaker 3: I love it all right, boy, should I get the photos?