WEBVTT - Legacy w/ Yancey Arias 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.960 Of the law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.760 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:07.640 vicious felonies. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:11.240 These episodes are based on. These are our stories, done. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:29.720 Done, Hello, that's messed up? 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:32.599 An SVU podcast. I am Liza Trigger and I am 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:37.440 Kara Klank. This podcast is where we dissect an episode 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.519 of SVU the true crime it was based on, and 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.280 then we have a fabulous guest and today is no different. 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.800 But before that, we chat and we have a shit 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.040 ton going on, and we have been having a lot 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:50.479 going on, and we're really excited. 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.280 Just I mean, we're living our sex in the city, 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:55.800 packed schedule lives. People would look in and be like, 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:57.800 no one lives like that, and it's like, yes, we 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:02.960 are eating oysters. Can you even believe it? Pasta in 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.400 the streets of New York. But we are going to 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.360 the Backstreet Boys tonight. So that's very thrilling. It's kind 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.080 of like a TikTok countdown until then. Yeah, I refused 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.560 to unpack. I am in my house. One suitcase is 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:16.880 still in the car. I just I can't. I can't. 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:22.000 Lisa's coming off of a three city multinational. 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:24.920 Tour, but tour makes it seem like I was working, 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:26.560 and I was mostly gallivanting. 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:32.200 We country fifty to fifty gallivanting working, you know. We 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:35.520 talked about her trip to Finland and she is back 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.800 from that. And then we met up in New York 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.240 and we went to go see our friends show Oh God, 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.120 an Hour about abortion at the Cherry Lane Theater, starring 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:46.479 written by Alison Liby, our dear friend, and it was amazing. 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:47.280 We had a blast. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:52.680 It's such a smart, funny, great show. And then you know, 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.400 we get to sip champagne in the green room like 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:56.400 a true fantasy. 0:01:57.760 --> 0:01:58.960 And then we went out on the town. 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.120 And then we did go to San Diego right after, 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.160 and so we did tell the live audience there in 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:04.680 San Diego some of these stories. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:06.760 But that's just what happens when you see us. Yeah, 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:08.519 if you see us five, you get the tea first. 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:10.680 Don't be like these, you know, if you're the two 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.760 hundred something people in San Diego, don't be like, oh, 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:13.840 this story again. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.640 I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, we gotta 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.919 let everybody know. So we went to Allison's show, which 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.280 by the way, has been extended at the Cherry Lane. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:22.760 So if you're listening to this now, I think you 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:23.680 can still go see it. 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:25.840 But I do want to say Kara missed this. But 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.359 my friends and I were waiting outside to go in, 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:29.960 and there is. 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.800 Like sharing a wall with the Cherry Lane. 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:36.560 Theater is a giant home and a preteen in ballet 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.079 clothes comes out of it, and I'm like, I can't 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.239 believe you're living here, like yeah. 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:42.919 Like on Cherry Lane in New York City. 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.040 Well, it's like and the mom was just like there, 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:47.960 and I wanted to be like, can you just give 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:48.760 us a rundown? 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.040 Like I don't you? Just like what the deal? 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:53.160 Yeah? Who has the money? 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:53.360 Is it? 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.160 Family? Did somebody come up with a patent for an 0:02:56.200 --> 0:03:00.640 amazing idea? What's going on? How do you guys live here? Yeah? 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:04.360 It is like the most beautiful, picturesque little street. We 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:07.160 were rolling like twenty people deep. We just knew so 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:08.919 many people that were going to see the show or 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:10.760 friends that wanted to come with us. So we had 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:10.960 a bit. 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.200 Me and Kara flew in, You flew in. 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:17.480 Yeah, I was. I was able to luckily leave my 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.800 children and with my husband and find a ticket last 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:22.200 minute and I was able to fly in, and I 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.280 was so happy that I did, because I just do. 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.760 You want to tell everyone about the dramatic story of 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:29.600 daycare and communicable diseases. 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:35.280 Oh my god, listen, we're living in a COVID world. 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.400 But my child currently has hand foot in mouth, don't 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:41.119 It's like the most disgusting name for a disease. It's 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.280 literally just a rash and there's nothing you can do 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.760 about it, but it's like very contagious. So she can't 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.480 go to school. So she's home right now, and so 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.360 is her brother because he can't go even though he 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:52.640 doesn't have it yet. And it's just like, I'm sure 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:54.680 moms are like, oh yeah, this shit because it like 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:58.400 ravages through daycares. It's like, but then Oscar's daycare, there's 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.520 multiple kids, Yeah, we kids, COVID. 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:01.840 Yeah, everything is wild. 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.000 And what I've learned through this experience his parenthood just 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.920 seems like everyone just trying to not be with their 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:11.320 children as most as time as possible, and COVID really 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:12.440 puts a fork in their place. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:12.720 Well. 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:14.760 The other thing is too, is like Lisa is always 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.200 like Caro, what do you have going on? And I'm 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.120 always like not anything compared to what you have going on. 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.720 And I finally was like going out to Joshua Tree 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.560 overnight trip to see this musician Nico Case, who I 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:26.919 love that I've been wanting to see at this iconic 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.200 venue called Pappy and Harriet's that's out in the desert. 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.920 I was so excited, and then I can't go now 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:35.200 because my kid has fucking handfoot in mouth whose alternate 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.479 name is COXSACKI. I think that's the alternate name for 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.760 hand foot in mouth. Like someone was like, oh, that's 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:43.480 the worst name, and I go, really, the other name 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:47.560 is Cooksaki. So it's just like a horrible but we're 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.520 living through it. Honestly, Rosie's in the best mood. I 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.240 can't believe she has a fucking like disease right now. 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.800 She's in a great can only kids have it, like 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:00.200 adults can get it. But it's like a sore throat 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.120 and it's like not as light, like it's just not 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:03.000 as likely. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:05.920 Yeah, yeah, I'm having a spiral. If I should have 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.320 watched the kids so you could have gone to Joshua. 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.240 Tree, No, no, you would have had to watch two 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.840 children all day, Lisa. You would have seriously jumped out 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:14.800 of a window. That's why I was like, like, my 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.160 I had a babysitter ready to pick them up from school, 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.919 do dinner, stay over, take them to school. But with 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:21.799 school out of the picture, I was like, we can't 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.440 do it. But that's very sweet of you to eat, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.440 But you went that across your mind. We did get 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.600 to go to dinner last night. We did get a babysitter. 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.640 We went to dinner last night. We stayed out for 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.320 like two and a half hours, and then we were like, 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:33.760 should we go to a bar? And then we were like, 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.440 let's just go home and watch drag Race. And then 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.400 I of course fell asleep, but I'm really excited to 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:39.000 watch the end. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:43.040 But well, it says one year? Was it two years ago? 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:44.520 You had a big dinner party? 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.120 Oh yeah, so for our five year. Our five year 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.240 was June of the pandemic, and I was potted with 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.400 Lisa and a couple of other couples and we had 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.040 a little dinner party in our backyard and it was 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.680 I thought it was pretty nice. It was lovely, but. 0:05:59.000 --> 0:05:59.720 Yeah, it was great. 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:03.080 Yeah, a gourmet multi course meal for your wedding anniversary 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:03.640 where none of. 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:05.520 Us were at well, yeah, but it was also like 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.480 it was also like we were dying to do anything 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.200 that felt like an event because we'd already been two 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.680 and a half months sequestered in our homes. But drag 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.640 Race my jaws on the floor every single day. 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:18.680 I'm like, oh my. 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:22.640 God, no they I'm on the Hysteria podcast as well. 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.119 I'm like a rotating person on that podcast, and they 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.839 do a thing called Sanity Corner and my like just 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.320 something you're doing to keep yourself like calm. And I 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.720 was like, honestly, this sounds so basic. But Drag Race 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.920 all stars the winter season, it's just like there's no 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.839 real shade, and that's like okay with me because they're 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.000 all just so excellent and no one's going home and 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.680 it's just like relaxing me. How good everyone relaxing? Yeah, 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.040 it is relaxing. Everybody's so good. 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.440 Like no one is a full mentally ill monster. You know, 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.400 no one's just like, wow, you look like shit. Yeah, 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:59.200 there's none of that because no one looks like shit. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.599 That's actually I like when people say they look like shit. 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:02.440 I take all those backs. 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.840 Well, but I'm also not sitting there going you're obviously 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:06.880 not gonna make it past episode three? Can we get 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:08.200 you out of here? You know what I mean? There's 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:12.400 no filler. It's all just quality, like drag excellence. Like 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:14.640 everyone I thought of lunatic. 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.840 I thought of like a Gia Gun being like you 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:20.040 seem nervous, Yeah, are you nervous? 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:24.320 Such a lunatic? Like I love Geagun but fully off 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.600 the rails. Wait, so let's go back to New York 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.120 really quickly and tell everybody what happened. So we So 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.200 I walk in a little bit like after Lisa, and 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.560 she's like, Arden's here, our good friend Arden Marine an 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.200 amazing comedian, loner fore years. She's the best. 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.360 Actually, I would say a very well known. If you 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:42.760 saw her face, you would know her. 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.120 Yeah, oh yeah, I think comedian because that's how I 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.240 know her. But she's an actress. She was on mad 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.560 TV's on It. She was on a show called Insatiable. 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:51.880 I'm not sure if it's still on, but like it's. 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.400 Not, but I watched two seasons. People were mad. I 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:58.280 liked it. So then her friend, a coaster from that 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.360 show's there and I run to care are going? Arden 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.040 brought someone from svo and Kara could care less, But 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:04.440 I go. 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.280 Oh cool, because she doesn't give me any other information. 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.559 She just goes Arden brought somebody who's been on SVU, 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:11.560 and I go neat, like I met a fucking lady 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.680 who was on SVU last week and she was boring 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.120 as hell, like she had a small little part. I 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:20.440 had no idea who it was. And then I go 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.880 to see Liza at her seat. I look to Arden 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:24.720 next to her, and then I look next to Arden 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.560 and I'm like my eyes had to like adjust, like 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.400 I was like, oh my god, it's fucking doctor Gregory Yates, 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:34.480 like humongous part multiple episode arc, one of the biggest 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.520 villains of all time on SVU. She just yeah, killed 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.360 so many people and married him in a beach and 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.960 he's just like sitting there and I'm like, ah, I go, 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:44.880 will you be on our podcast? I think that's like 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.040 the first thing I said to him. I just like screamed, 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.559 while you be on our podcast? And he was like, yeah, sure, 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.160 you guys are nuts, like it was really fun. 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.000 Well we were also from Happy Hour because then I 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:55.319 looked at him and I go, we've had a. 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.959 Few, yeah, and we were what was that we were 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:02.960 flying high from Happy Hour? A tune a notcho. We 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:03.880 had a lot going on. 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:06.760 But also there's no need to fry a deviled egg. 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.160 We want a devil egg for the cooling nature of it. 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.920 We don't need it fried and warm and like gushing 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.280 out of rye like I'll you. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:15.640 Know what, if I want that, I'll take a holopen, 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:17.600 you'll popper. I don't need that in a double de egg. 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.120 They were trying to halapen you'll popper fi a double 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.160 degg at this place we went, but no, we found 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.440 this great one of those like West. 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:25.960 Well find it. Our friend told us. 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.439 Our friend found it, but our friend founded. But one 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.760 of these those ones where you go downstairs in the 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:32.760 West Village. So if you're like in a like a 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.520 cool basement bar on a warm June day. No one 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.520 was in there basically just our friends and we just 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.640 had a wonderful happy hour. Bounced over to the abortion show, 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:46.280 met doctor Gregoryates. Afterwards we all got like a bunch 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:47.920 of us, got to go and have champagne in the 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.959 VIP room with Alison. Then we go to this after 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.560 a restaurant and we're all hanging out. It was so fun. 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:54.920 Well, I had a debacle there. 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:58.120 I had a social debacle because I walk and there's 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:01.400 a table filled with people, you know, and there's free 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:02.120 seats behind. 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:03.520 So I get the host. I'm like, can you set 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:04.360 up a table for ten? 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.160 We have a bunch of more people coming, and he's like, no, 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.120 absolutely not, and I was like whatever, and then he 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.360 finally does it. He sets up the table. You all 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.839 arrive and you're like, we're not sitting at this table. 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:14.640 We're going to the bar. 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.760 And then the rest of the night, this man is 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:18.880 glaring at me and then glaring. 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:19.480 At this empty table. 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.720 I made him set up, and it was just it 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:24.680 was humiliating, and it. 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.880 Was really me. I mean it was like other people. 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.080 It was my best friend who stabbed me in the back. 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:31.720 She was like, I'm not fucking sitting there, and then 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:32.560 she went to the bar. 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.360 I can't deal with splitting a check with twenty people, 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.600 and I was like, fair enough, and so I would 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.280 just went to order at the bar. And then suddenly 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:41.839 I was just sitting at the bar for a while. 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.080 But but I had an amazing pasta. I would go 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:45.679 back there for sure. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:51.320 But then it was called Leroy House, right, I don't know, well, 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:52.599 I want to give them a shout out if you 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.240 said it's the most amazing pasta, I'm trying. 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:57.280 It was a very good positive. You didn't need any 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.880 of the pasta. No, I got the artichoke. I got 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:01.640 something else. 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.440 And then they cleared the artichokes before we were done, 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.120 and I like made a face and the guy's like, 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:06.559 I'll take it off your bill, and I was like, oh, 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.480 thank you. I just made a face, but thank you. No, 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.199 I got a couple things and it was all really good. 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:12.120 It was good. 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:16.439 So, you know, Kara described the pregame place and being 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.440 like it was empty, no one was there, and. 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:20.319 That was our goal for the after after. 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:24.720 But like it was pride in the village on a 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:28.640 Friday night, and so we were walking from bar to bar, 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.120 going two packed and then leaving or everyone's twenty four 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.920 and it was like we went to seven bars. But 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:36.480 as someone that was just in New York for a 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.520 quick weekend, it was like, I'll walk around the West 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.280 Village all day long. Yeah, I love this, But it 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.680 was like why is there not an empty bar? 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:45.719 Yeah? We just kept being like why isn't that a 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:47.920 bar with like three old gay men in it? Like 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.800 why why are we like having to find so many 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.600 young people, but we're out. 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:53.960 Yeah. 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:55.800 It was a lot. Yeah, it was amazing. 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.239 It was cool. It was cool, just not for our purposes. 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.240 And then I had a friend's wedding the next so 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.400 I didn't want to get too wild on a Friday either. 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.400 I had a big and I had a seven am 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.680 flight and I flew into La to throw my son's 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:13.320 one year birthday party because I am actually a maniac. Uh, 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:15.840 there's a we loan event. There's a photo of me. 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.960 I'll put it on the Instagram for the podcast. It's 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:23.280 like literally me holding both my kids and you can 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.199 just see in my eyes I've been drinking for two nights, 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.800 Like you can just see, like she I can't be 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.360 doing this right now, Like both my kids are on 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.000 my lap and everybody's trying to take a cute picture 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.840 of me, and my eyes are like help me, you know. So, 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:37.920 But I was It was worth it. The birthday party 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.240 went great, and the trip to New York was amazing. 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.520 And then San Diego. Thank you. Everybody who came out 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.920 at San Diego waited to meet us and everything. We 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:45.720 had the best time. 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:47.400 It was such a fun show. 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.920 Yeah, you have my Comedy. Lisa's gonna be there in August. 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:52.960 If you live in the San Diego area, Lisa's gonna 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.760 be at Mike Drop Comedy. That club is fucking on it. 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.559 They're a new club, so they like I don't know 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.440 if they're trying to prove themselves or what, but they're 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.559 doing it like they've got everything covered. 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:04.520 They made us some table. 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.000 Oh yeah, the menu is amazing, but also the table 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:08.040 is made out of candy. 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.760 So the tables in the groom in the green room, 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:17.400 you don't get to sit at it. Sorryroom. Yeah, and 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:19.760 like it just like they they've got They made us 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.640 some menu that was like Elite squad, a lo ta 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.000 like all this, like all stuff that was like about 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.719 exactly right about our names on the podcast. In his view, 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:30.800 it was so cute. So anyway, great place go see 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:35.760 Lisa in August. Anyway, crazy fun weekend and now tonight 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:38.120 we're going to the Backstreet Boys and we'd like, I mean, 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:42.959 we should probably shout out our friend and Backstreet hostess 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.560 who listens to the pod, Sophia. It's her birthday and 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.000 she invited us and we're so excited. 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:47.760 Yeah. 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:52.400 She is Hannah's bestie from Canada from on shore, not 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:53.240 that Hannah's from there. 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:53.559 Listen. 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.439 Oh and I came home and our friend Alex. 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.280 Sent us key chains that say especially Hanas and executive 0:13:59.280 --> 0:13:59.839 producer Dick. 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:00.480 Oh. 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.560 Yeah, they're so cute. Oh, I have a photo of 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:03.000 the menu. 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:07.040 So yeah, there's a drink called Probable Cause, which is funny. 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:13.520 It's a fishbowl, Benson fly re examine wrap, Done Done sliders. 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.080 It was fucking We should make like our own menu. 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.680 That's like ex partey platter, like the stuff we talk 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:20.880 about on the podcast. 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:23.880 Wait, but I okay, I was looking for this. So 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.480 obviously we love social events, so of course we're gonna 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.920 fly to go to weddings, to go to events, events, events. 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.160 But then I didn't see this horoscope meme that really 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:35.600 you laughed at my face, didn't you? 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:36.480 Why I wasn't there. 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.400 It is like such a read so it's like fake 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.960 vulture articles and it says in quotes, I hate this city, 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.640 says a virgo who never leaves their house. And I 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:50.200 was like, mother, wow, wow, wow, wow. 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:51.080 Bethany, Wow. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:55.520 I feel attacked. I feel very attacked, very attacked. 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:56.520 And not me. 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.200 I'm talking about Lisa. I'm a virgo who loves to 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:02.000 leave my house. I'm the opposite. I'm the September side 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:03.800 over Ago. I don't know if it's the hoggest side 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:05.920 that likes to chill, but. 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:06.480 I'm also out. 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:08.560 I do want to shout out my friend Emmy's wedding. 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.320 I met a listener Meg, her husband Kevin. They have 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.960 a wine shop in a town I can't remember. I'm sorry, Meg, 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.880 but so I met Meg and Kevin, very good chats, 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.080 and then Emmy and Nick at Elpenguino. I do need 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.240 a shout out, and I think every wedding should adopt this. 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:26.000 Just have a giant bucket of caviar and a giant 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.160 bucket of potato chips and crackers, and that's why that's 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:32.080 the wedding. Okay, Yeah, dipping caviar till two in the 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.960 morning because there's too much caviar and no one could 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:39.760 finish it. Like what does this Great Gatsby like fantasy? 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.320 I couldn't believe it. Just dipping into caviar. I want 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.640 it all over and shout out to Rainbow Cookies. 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:47.920 So that's it. That's it? 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:51.760 Ever, Yeah, no, my love, Speaking of wine, we did 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:55.320 meet two listeners in San Diego. They both had podcast. 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:57.960 One girl has a podcast called the Chatty Fox that's 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.920 about wine, I guess. But then her friend goes. Her 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.200 friend goes, oh, yeah, on my podcast, I talk about 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.000 you guys all the time. When we go what's your podcast, 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:06.680 she goes, it's called that Fuck Me Up. It's about 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.800 shows that fucked me up. And it's like, you are 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:14.320 so funny. So if you're interested in another podcast, I 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.360 guess about TV shows that fucked this girl up. There 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:21.160 they are. It just really made me laugh and they 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:21.480 like it. 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:21.800 Okay. 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.680 Also, I love seeing all the like aunts and niece's 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:26.360 mom daughters out. 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.160 At the shows. That makes me feel happy. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:30.920 And one woman said she lets her children listen to 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:32.720 the intro, so I do love that. 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:34.520 Oh yes, she goes, she loves it when you guys 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.800 say idiot or stupid. And I'm like, what about if 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.400 we say dumb bitch, which we say all the time. 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:41.920 She was like whatever. I was like, yeah, I mean 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.640 I swear in front of Rosie. I'm trying to decrease 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:46.080 the importance of swear words. 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:47.840 Yeah and oh, I. 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.400 Yelled at a group of people at the Fire Island screen. 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.320 It went to but I stop talking. They wouldn't. So wait. 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:55.680 So there's a scene in Fire Island that I love 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.200 where Bowen Yang sings a Britney Spears song and I 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:01.440 didn't no bone I could sing like he sounds great. 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.280 And so when the song's going on, Lisa leans forward 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:05.600 and looks at me because there's a couple of people 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.760 in between us, but we're wearing masks, so I can't 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.160 see what she's saying. I just see her eyes getting wild, 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:12.720 and so I go, I know, I didn't know Bowen 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.160 could sing either. And then she turns to the guys 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.000 in front of us and goes, can you seriously just 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.879 be quiet for one minute? And I was like, oh, 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.520 she was mad about the guys. I was excited about Bowen. 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:25.640 Never mind miscommunication. This is the problem with masks everyone. 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.480 I'm a Republican now, I'm. 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:30.760 An anti masker. I've said it once. I've said it before. 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.040 My good friend Julia was like, you wore a mask 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.960 on your flight, right. I go, no, absolutely not. I'm done. 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.440 I'm done. If you're not forcing, I'm not gonna fight anyone. 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.520 I'm not gonna yell at an employee, even if I'm 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:44.480 on the train and people around me are wearing masks. 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:48.040 I'll wear a mask for their comfort, but no, no, no, 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:49.919 if I have an opportunity not and if I am 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.479 told too now, I like roll my eyes and I'm like, really, 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.280 I definitely I'm done. 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:56.720 No, where are your masks? 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:57.119 Okay? 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:58.919 And I also, I had a show last night I 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:00.920 got canceled because of COVID, and I'm like, grow up, 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:02.040 it's like this. 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.120 Yeah, well it's a very COVID conscious show that got canceled. 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:07.800 They're very strict about it. 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.159 So I could say that these men were talking right 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:11.919 from the jump, and I knew what they were gonna do. 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.399 So I quietly went, you're gonna stop talking. 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.080 Right. They ignored me. Maybe they didn't hear me. Maybe 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.480 I should have spoken louder. And then I realized, like, okay, 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.080 I'm at this gay fest. There are a bunch of 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.199 gay men. I've never even been to Fire Island. Like, 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:25.640 you know, let them celebrate if they want to chat 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.640 a little in this event. I'm gonna just I'm gonna 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:30.879 try to focus on this movie. And it is fine. 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:32.600 I'm gonna have a good time. But they wouldn't stop. 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:33.240 They wouldn't stop. 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.600 They were acting like they were MSc three k ing 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:37.879 the movie like they were just talking, you know what 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.240 I mean, Like they were just doing mystery science theater 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.080 commentary like the whole time. 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:44.199 The whole time. And it's like, this movie comes out 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:46.639 in Hulu in three hours. Yeah, you could have watched 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:48.880 it at home and talk the whole time, like what 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:49.920 so true? 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.399 We were at a ten pm screening hours before it 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:54.000 comes out. 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.520 It wasn't even the premier screening that was earlier. It 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.359 was just like I and then I broke, and then 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.240 I just couldn't handle it anymore. And then they stopped 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.520 talking and it was such so much more enjoyable. I 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:06.400 was like, I should have yelled at them hours ago. 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.680 But listen, at this point, this movie's been out for 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.600 three weeks. But if you haven't seen Fire Island yet, 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:14.919 it is so fucking good. You guys should see it. 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.919 If you watched our very first live show, Joel Kim Booster, 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:20.040 the writer and star of this movie, was a guest 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.320 on our live show. He's a pal of ours. The 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:26.120 movie has such an amazing cast. It's beautifully shot, It's 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.479 so heartfelt but also hilarious, so many good jokes, like 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.320 I can't say enough about it. I really really enjoyed it. 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:34.080 Why all the flags? 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.919 I mean, yeah, it is it is such. 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.920 We said that all weekend. I just have to say, 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:43.600 I was like, why all the flags? Well, anyone trade 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:45.399 me a cress white strip for a prep Like I 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:47.639 just thought it was like there were so many jokes, 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:49.800 Like I was so impressed with Joel's acting, but the 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:53.760 writing really blew me away too, Like I was really 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:55.280 good to. 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:59.560 Like housewives nods to clueless. Obviously if you read that 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:03.119 like and prejudiced, you'll see more under a Country gust to. 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.840 Marissa Chome and my cousin Vinnie. I mean it was 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:09.760 it's a great It's just a great movie. So you've 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.199 got Hulu, probably because you're watching this for you, So 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.480 get on there and watch Fire Island. And I don't 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.040 know should we start. It feels like we've been here talking. 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.919 We've been here a long time, but we've had a 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:23.040 jam packed lots of jam packed adventures. 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:24.240 So of course we're going to talk. 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:27.520 About of course, of course and job. And now I'm like, 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:29.639 did we forget anything? Oh the bad date? Should we 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:30.919 just keep them waiting forever? 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:35.639 Ah? Next week we talked about the bad day or 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:36.479 post mortem. 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:38.160 Maybe in the post mortam we'll see. 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.000 Oh yeah, make you guys listen to the end of 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:41.840 the episode. You got to listen to the whole thing 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:43.639 if you want to hear about Lisa's bad date. But 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:46.280 now we're yeah, now let's get starting. We're starting. We're starting. 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:55.920 Oh keydo here we go a legacy Season two episode 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:59.840 four Wow, airing November tenth in the year two thousand. 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:00.719 Can you believe? 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:03.879 I can't because it's such a vivid episode for me, 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:07.040 Like my memory of this episode is crystal clear sharp, 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.480 and I can't believe that it's season two. 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.280 It's so true. I've seen this one a bunch of times, 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:15.960 and it doesn't Yeah, it feels like a more like 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:19.119 I would guess season six or seven if you asked me, Like, 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:21.840 it doesn't feel like it's so far away, but it 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:25.520 is one of those original babies. And we open on 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:28.440 a douchey high school kid who's on a landline at 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:31.720 seven am talking about football with his friend, like I 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:35.159 can't relate to you. The mom comes out and is like, 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:37.000 hurry up, kids, you'll be late for school. And there's 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:39.520 like a little boy sitting at the table like just 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:43.560 like drinking OJ with like you know, soggy trick serial 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:46.200 next to him, and the mom asks, has anyone seen 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.280 Emily and the douche sons like, I don't know, and 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:50.719 it's not his responsibility to wake her up, Like you 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:53.520 can tell he's not easy to live with. And then 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:56.000 she tells the little boy who I thought was six 0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:58.640 but you later find out he's like four, to hurry 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.840 up because they're leaving in ten minutes. And yeah, I 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:04.520 feel like the soggy Tricks and the OJ together gave 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:06.439 me like a bad taste in my mouth immediately. But 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:09.280 the mom goes into Emily's room. They live in a 0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:12.600 beautiful apartment multi level, and the mom goes into Emily's 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:15.440 room and she's in bed, unresponsive, and when she goes 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:17.640 to pick her up, she's like limp, and she notices 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.000 a huge contusion on the back of her neck, and 0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:22.440 she like yells for the douche sun justin to come 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:24.720 up and help her. And now we're at the hospital 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:26.920 and a doctor's giving Benson and stable or the walk 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:29.000 and Talk breakdown. She's a seven year old girl with 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:32.160 a subdural hematoma, and there's evidence that indicates the pressure's 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:35.840 been building for hours. And I will say personal experience, 0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:39.160 My mom fell in a restaurant in San Francisco because 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:42.399 she wears dumb shoes. Like she never wears shoes with 0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:47.720 any support. She's completely style overfunction and she sounds so 0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:50.679 shocking to me. Oh yeah, she'll buy like if she 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:53.399 finds cute little flats with no support for her arches, 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:56.320 she'll buy them in seven colors. So she fell in 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:59.639 these shoes, hit like fell. We didn't even realize she 0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:01.800 didn't really she hit her head. She just fell with 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:05.040 like such a velocity that like a couple of weeks 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:07.680 later she had a subdural hematoma and like thank god 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:09.720 they found it because those can like be really bad 0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:12.080 and she had to get like she had to get 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:14.280 it like drained or I don't know what they do, 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:15.840 but it was like she was in the hospital. It 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.640 was like really scary, and it was fully she had 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:20.840 not hit her head. She had just fallen with like 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:23.320 a the way that your brain can like smack to 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:24.200 the back of your skull. 0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:26.280 I guess if you're in a bad fall. But does 0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:28.640 she wear like comfortable doctor shoes. 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.040 No, that's the thing. And like we went to Europe 0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:33.480 one time and I was like, can you please wear 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:35.960 sneakers and she was like, m she loves like ballet 0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:38.119 flats and loafers and stuff like that, but like the 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:41.920 not with any support, so wild, that's crazy. I had 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:43.840 my sister and I one year for Christmas got her 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:46.639 like nice loafers from like a fancier place that like 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:51.160 had like you know, arch support, and she was like thanks, 0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:52.680 but like I don't know if she ever wore them, 0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:57.399 Like she's crazy. But that's the story about a subdirl anyway. 0:23:57.440 --> 0:23:59.840 Subdirl hematomas are scary because they just can like build 0:23:59.880 --> 0:24:04.680 them pressure underneath your skull forever until something bad happens. Anyway, 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.000 Emily did not fall in a restaurant. The doctor says 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:11.400 it is blunt trauma and she has fractured ribs, pelvic 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:15.879 bruising and vaginal trauma indicates sexual assault. Oh terrible. And 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:19.000 then we see mom hysterical on a couch nearby. She's 0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:21.760 got douche son Justin and the little cutie Michael is 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:24.000 next to her, and the father is out of town 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:27.439 on business, and Benson's like, so have a nice weekend, 0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:29.679 and Stabler's like, I don't remember having a weekend, and 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:31.439 these are just the hard hitting jokes that I think 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:33.560 we can expect to get at the end of a 0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:36.879 cold open in season two. So we are at the 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.240 top of act one, the mom, whose name is Jamie, 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:41.600 is crying to Benson and Stabler, and we find out 0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:43.760 that Emily had just gotten back from a visit with 0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:47.680 her dad, so she is from a previous relationship. Justin 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:49.720 is her step son, so her husband's son, and then 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:51.840 Michael is her child with her current husband, so they're 0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:55.919 like a very blended family. And then Justin is you know, 0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:58.720 giving insane attitude like can we go now? I have 0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:01.119 a quiz and trig And it's like really annoying to 0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:02.520 watch him because well because even. 0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:04.359 If it's not your stepsister and it's just a random 0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:06.240 little girl, like would she at least be like, I 0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:07.080 hope she's okay. 0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:09.800 Yeah, It's like he has no feeling, he has like 0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:13.440 no empathy, Like it's weird. And he is the kind 0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.639 of kid that Stabler loves to fuck with. So like 0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:18.200 you can see Stabler's like little eyebrows like perk up, 0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:20.160 like I'm going to fucking punch this kid at some point. 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.520 And then Emily's dad, Denny Correa, shows up and he 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.800 is played by Yancey Arius who has an extensive IMDb, 0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:32.160 and you know, the wife, Jamie and Denny immediately start 0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:34.240 fighting and he wants to see the little girl, and 0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:37.040 the mom's like, get out of here. And Jamie tells 0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:39.600 Benson and Stabler that Denny's always had a problem with 0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:42.160 his anger, but since she got married to her current husband, 0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:48.000 it's escalated. So now we're with Stabler and he's talking 0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.719 to Denny and he's like, she watched The Lion King 0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:52.639 all afternoon and then I cooked her a quick dinner 0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:54.879 and her mom picked her up, and he throws an 0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.920 accusation out at Jamie's husband, whose name is Randall McKenna, 0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:01.040 and he's like, he touches Emily. I saw the bruises, 0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:03.359 and he asked Emily what happened, and she started to cry, 0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:06.560 and so Denny reported it, but Jamie told the caseworker 0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:09.480 that it was Denny, and Jamie like wants what she 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:11.720 wants no matter who it hurts, is what he says, 0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:15.760 and so like she was able to twist his report 0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:20.040 onto him. So at the precinct, Stabler tells us that 0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:22.880 Emily's abuse is long term, but that the head injury 0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:25.600 is from a window of ten to twenty four hours 0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:29.400 before she was admitted to the hospital. The rape kit 0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:32.520 turned up a hair and a nylon bristle embedded in 0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:34.280 abrasions on her butt. 0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:39.840 So click who wrote that that's insane? I know, a 0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.760 hair bristle in a butt like that is so such 0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:43.720 a wild detail. 0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:44.840 Even fres view. 0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:46.879 It is such a wild detail. But when I hear it, 0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:48.800 I'm like, oh, so somebody got spanked with a hair brush, 0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.479 Like that's what I immediately think, Like I wouldn't think 0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:55.280 that that was like a sexual thing, But they talk 0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:58.199 about this later in the episode. So anyway, Finn and 0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:00.520 Munch are both in a shirt and side us code 0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:04.480 was much more you know, strict back in the early seasons. 0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:06.879 I would say, we have not yet seen you know, 0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.280 Finn's leather blazer that he wears all the time. So 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.520 in this window of time, she was with her mom's 0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:17.040 family and her dad's family. So it's really hard to 0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:19.520 narrow down like who could have done it because she was, 0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:22.000 you know, bleeding internally, and so we don't know like 0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:25.159 when this happened, Denny. We find out as a Cuban 0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:27.760 immigrant who did time for assault in nineteen ninety three, 0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.600 and now he works as a cook at the Greenbrier School, 0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:33.119 which is the school where Emily goes. And the stepdad, 0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:36.040 Randall McKenna's a Wall Street guy like mister money Bags. 0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:39.320 And we find out that Michael, the little guy who's 0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:42.720 like four, is disabled nonverbal, and that Justin is fifteen. 0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.679 So that's like the stats on the family, and Randall 0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.400 the rich man is still on in DC on business. 0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.760 So then munch says, which brings us back to Desi, 0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:55.120 which is referencing Desi Arnez. I guess because he's also Cuban. 0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:57.600 This joke would not fly today. But this is a 0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:02.000 very much joke heavy up episode. I'm calling his little 0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:04.960 joke munchables. I don't know. We can brainstorm some other ideas, 0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:08.480 so no munchables. That is our new fucking merch. Are 0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:13.399 you kidding me? Munchables. It would have a little. 0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:18.320 Sunglasses, a little like a little mic a spy kit. 0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:23.159 I don't know. I guess I'm not a coffee like something, 0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.720 yeah something. Jfk oh Wait doesn't he like fig milkshakes. 0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:34.840 He likes fig shakes. Anyway, so munchable, bungeable. So after 0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.120 this little bunch of ble, we get Finn being like, okay, 0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:40.080 so how did this society chick and this like cook 0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.520 end up together? You know, like, and it's the tail. 0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:46.000 As I was thinking, we're all thinking, yeah, maybe it's racism, 0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:49.800 maybe it's you know, whatever we're thinking, but we all thought. 0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:53.080 It right, And the answer is the tale as old 0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:56.840 as time. Rehab. She was there kicking an amphetamine habit, 0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:00.920 and he was teaching a dance class. And that's funny 0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.360 to me, Like I love a zoomba class, and I 0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.760 hope that I bet you he had a very popular 0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:07.120 class because he's like cute. 0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:11.040 When I worked at Fat Camp, we had a dancer 0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:15.480 from France and we learned dance moves to Estelle's American Boy. 0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:17.040 Oh yeah, he. 0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:17.880 Was the hit of the camp. 0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:22.080 I would say, he didn't speak English and he would 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:23.560 just break dance and we loved it. 0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:24.760 I love that. 0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:26.200 Well, that's what this. 0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:31.120 Reminded me of. Okay, so he is the French counselor 0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:34.160 at Fat Camp, essentially at rehab, and he got her 0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:37.320 pregnant and the mother made the rehab fire. Denny and 0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:40.080 the mother is Lois Huntington, the chair of the Avery 0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:43.800 Huntington Foundation. She is the widow of the late ambassador. Okay, 0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:45.720 so now we're really getting an idea of how like 0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.680 high up level Jamie is like her dad was an ambassador. 0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:53.280 But also you're not supposed to like fuck the patients 0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.000 at the rehab where you teach dance, you know. But 0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:57.480 he's not a doctor or therapist. 0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:00.280 It's not like he's signed a thing like it's did 0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:01.320 but it's not illegal. 0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:03.120 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay. 0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:06.160 No one's underage, so it could be like unethical or so, 0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:08.960 but not really. You know, it's like it's the arts 0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:10.160 and crafts teaching. 0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:13.760 And you're not in power, right and no one's under 0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:17.600 the influence because you're at rehab, you know, getting clean. 0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:21.400 So anyway, Kragan's like everybody get working or the rich 0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:23.440 people are gonna be up my ass, which is usually 0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:25.480 that's like a very Kragan thing, is like, oh shit, 0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:27.880 this involves rich people. Let's get going. They're gonna come 0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.560 after me. So now we're at an apartment with a 0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:34.440 great view but very old style and furnishings, and Lois 0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:37.200 Huntington has like the helmet hair and she's telling the 0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:40.320 detectives that Denny took advantage of Jamie when she was vulnerable, 0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.880 and a butler is serving them tea. I like how 0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:45.840 they mix it up, Like a lot of times there's maids. 0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.080 You know, we've talked about old school made outfits versus 0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:51.160 plain clothes maids outfits, and this is a full on butler. 0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:53.640 This is a man serving them tea, and Olivia it 0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.360 just like takes a cup of tea while she's being 0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:59.920 served and while she's questioning the witness, and it's very funny. 0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.560 So there's a frame picture of Bill Clinton on the 0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.040 side table next to Stabler, and I just thought that 0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.960 was wild. And also a listener did send us a 0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:11.880 screenshot of a photo on Benson's desk of Benson and 0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:15.120 Obama together, which is obviously Marishka and Obama together, but 0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:17.920 it's added Benson meet Obama. I'd love to know. And 0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:22.120 the backlog anyway, Lois explains that she tried to get 0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:25.880 Jamie to aboard the pregnancy and they're like, okay, well 0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:28.480 when did this addiction start? And she's like, oh please, 0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:32.600 their prescription diet pills. Like she's downplaying the fuck out 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.160 of the addiction, like it's not a big deal. She said. 0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.800 Jamie had a discipline problem, and she was an only 0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.760 child and her father indulged her. She was daddy's little girl, 0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:43.719 and when he died, she became badly behaved, and so 0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.840 she shipped her off to boarding school at eleven. And 0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:49.160 that's pretty early to go to boarding school. I guess 0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:53.480 there are like boarding middle schools, but that's young. Usually 0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:55.960 start in high school at like fourteen. But then the 0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:59.000 mother says, well, at least the pregnancy straightened Jamie out, 0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:03.360 she said. After Jamie filed for custody, Denny broke three 0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:06.440 bones in Randall's face and threatened to kill him, and 0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.720 Randall offered Denny a deal. He goes, if you will 0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:12.400 give up custody of Emily to us, I will not 0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:15.080 file charges against you for, you know, breaking my nose 0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:18.800 in three places or whatever. And the deal expires on Friday, 0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.760 so we are in the middle of the deal time period, 0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:24.920 and Denny has until then to sign the papers. Lois 0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.239 hopes that Denny refuses and gets the jail time he 0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.840 deserves and calls him a vile creature. But I bet 0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:31.680 if he was a white fry cook she'd be like, fine, 0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:33.760 let's get you a job in the mailroom at the foundation. 0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:36.000 You know, she'd help him out more. But she's probably 0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.680 a very racist woman. So now we are at ACS 0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:41.760 and we're talking to a social worker and she is 0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:43.720 very familiar, this woman, and I looked her up. Her 0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.160 name is Michelle Hurst, and this is her second of 0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:49.080 five SVU episodes she's done, so that's where I know 0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.720 her from. She was also in season one of Orange 0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:53.560 is a New Black, but I don't remember her character 0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:55.520 because that seems like a million years ago to me. 0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.840 But she's done original recipe, lawn order, she's done criminal intent. 0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:03.800 She's a dick wolf baby. So they gave joint custody 0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.320 to Denny when Emily was a little baby because Jamie 0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:08.760 was still struggling with her addiction and the baby was sick. 0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:11.760 And then Lois, it turns out, not only supported this 0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.200 arrangement but used her connections to make it like go 0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:18.400 through faster. So about a year ago, Jamie started challenging 0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.280 the custody arrangement and they investigated these claims of abuse, 0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:24.520 but they couldn't find anything. And Finn's like, uh, broken bones, 0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:27.080 and She's like dude, kids are clumsy as hell, like 0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:29.320 get out of here, like their kids have broken bones 0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:31.480 all the time, like riding a bike, like I don't 0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:33.440 know what to tell you, And Munch really tries to 0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.840 sass this woman likes that how you sleep at night, 0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:37.160 and she goes, oh me, I haven't had a good 0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:38.880 night's sleep in ten years, Like, don't even try to 0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:40.600 come for me, Like my life is terrible. I work 0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:43.720 at ACS and it is really tough because ACS does 0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:46.960 fuck up, and they are also underpaid and overworked. So like, 0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.520 we've talked about this in previous episodes, and I'm sure 0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.960 we will again today. So at the Greenbrier School, the 0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.840 principal is filling in Munch and Finn about how Denny 0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:58.080 works three shifts in the kitchen, but he never misses 0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:00.920 going to storytime in Emily's classroom. He sounds like a 0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.200 very hard working dad, but this principle clearly is like 0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:05.080 on his side, and they're like weak. 0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:08.440 I knew it, Michelle Hurst, she's in Sex in the 0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:09.080 City as well. 0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.440 I just looked at it. Yeah, I fucking knew it. 0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:12.759 So what's her episode? 0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.279 I'm pretty sure it's the one where Samantha takes an 0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:18.000 AIDS test. Yes, she's the nurse that takes her in 0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.560 to be like what kind of condoms and like can 0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:20.839 you not? 0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:22.080 Can you just wear a condom? 0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:22.440 You know? 0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.920 Yeah, that was yes. I think I saw really quickly 0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:27.200 that she was in Sex and the City and I 0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.360 was like, oh, nurse. Maybe that was like just a 0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:31.560 tiny part, but that is a very like I remember 0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:34.560 that episode very very well. Actually it's just not her part, 0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.160 I guess. All right, So they're asking the principle about 0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:38.880 the report she filed, because I guess she filed the 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.160 report with ACS, and she says, yeah, I have to 0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:44.200 report all injuries, but she said Emily broke her leg 0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.719 learning to ride a bike. And the principal is like, 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.600 really going to bat for Denny. She's known him for 0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:50.839 six years and all that time she's never even heard 0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:54.080 him like raise his voice at Emily, and so she's like, Okay, 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.080 well who else hangs with Emily? And then here we 0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:59.520 go with the fucking unhinged plot point. Oh yeah, this 0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.920 loose man named Henry Aboden. He's the Minister of Protocol 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.480 for the Brunei Mission. He's a friend of the school 0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:07.759 and he's taken a special interest in Emily, and that's 0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:09.719 not a red flag at all. He takes her to 0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:12.200 dance class, reads, he reads to her. They just love 0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.040 each other. It's a platonic love between a seven year 0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:17.440 old girl and an adult man. I really just cannot 0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:21.520 So she's basically skywriting the word pedophile over them. And 0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.799 then this clueless principle directs them to this little girl 0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.160 named Jennifer, and she's like, that's Emily's best friend. Like 0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:29.920 they're frickin' frack, like, go talk to her. So now 0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:33.080 munch is talking to Jennifer. And this girl, Jennifer was 0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:36.160 actually kind of a successful child actress. She was in 0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:39.120 Cider House Rules and The Patriot and the show twenty 0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.920 four but she does not act anymore. But I just 0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:45.480 noticed shed like an impressive like run as a child. Anyway, 0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:48.400 she thinks the name munch is funny, and she is correct, 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:51.000 and she says and he goes, well, what about this. 0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:52.480 If I ever have kids, I'm gonna have to call 0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:55.880 the Munchkins another Munchable. And he's absolutely killing it with 0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.120 a seven year old. She loves him. She's immediately warm 0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:03.120 to this old end up comedian wearing dark glasses. I 0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:06.040 get uncomfortable when the detectives like talk down to children 0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:09.319 and do their little child act. It makes me feel weird. Yeah, 0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:12.040 I think because honestly, I will say, I think that's 0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:15.919 because there's a movement now that's more modern to talk 0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.560 to kids like respectfully and like in a way like 0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:20.640 not like an adult, but like not that they're like 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.560 baby talk, you know, And I think that's more modern. 0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:25.480 And so in this show, like they do capture a 0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.960 lot of like and what about your friend? Anything about 0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:31.520 you know, like that I like it. It's like, yeah, 0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.120 it's it's cringey. So he brings up Emily and he's 0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.880 like and she's like, yeah, Henry takes her to shows, 0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:41.200 buys her toys like I want She's like, I want 0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:44.719 a Henry, you know. And then he says Emily's dad 0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.000 was mad because her mommy was trying to take Emily 0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.160 away and he was taking her on a trip to Cuba. 0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:51.080 So this girl's got like all the tea and she 0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.719 is spilling it in this like classroom. So then this 0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:56.960 poor girl is like, Okay, we're best friends. Now do 0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:58.479 you want to see my barbie with hair that grows? 0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:00.000 And Munch is like nah, I got what I needed. 0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:02.799 I'll see you later, like he just fully. I'm like, Munch, 0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.480 take two seconds and look at her little Barbie doll. 0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:07.239 But then Munch can't get up out of the little 0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:10.239 kid's chair, and it's very funny. So we're getting a 0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:12.719 lot of Munch physical and verbal comedy in this episode. 0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:15.680 At the precinct, to the two duos Munch and Finn 0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:17.680 and Benson and Stabl are like filling each other in 0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:20.279 and they noticed Munch is kind of win sing and 0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:22.520 he like, I think he's like still in pain because 0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:23.799 he couldn't because he had to sit in a little 0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:25.759 kid chair, and he goes, now, I'm a pain in 0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:30.200 my own ass, Munch of all. So Finn found the 0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:33.680 two one way tickets to Cuba via Quebec in Emily 0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:36.839 and Denny's names. So turns out the little girl had 0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:39.560 the goods. And so now Munch and Stable are talking 0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:41.040 to Denny and he's like, I just wanted to get 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.239 Emily away from her abuser, and they're like, so you 0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:45.279 beat the shit out of him, and he's like, I 0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:46.600 just want to talk to him to see if I 0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.279 could shame in him into leaving my daughter alone. Then 0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:51.880 he pushed me. It happened so fast. They bring up 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:53.760 his past arrest. They're like, you beat up a store 0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.360 clerk and he was like he was trying to shoot me, 0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:58.600 and they were like, you were robbing his store, and 0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:01.320 he goes, I was hungry. I just affected from Cuba. 0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:03.839 Your government says welcome to America, goodbye and good luck, 0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:05.719 and it's like, yes, that is absolutely what they do, 0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.160 for sure. That's also what they do with babies, like 0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:11.879 we do a lot of bullshit, and uh so that's us. 0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:15.240 Yeah, that's It's been embarrassing for sure, being from America 0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:16.240 across the pond. 0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:17.799 Really, it's like. 0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:21.680 Everyone's like ew or like I met a cab driver 0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:23.399 and he go I was like, where are you from? 0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:25.920 He goes, well, Serbia and then your country bombed us 0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:27.560 and I went, sorry. 0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:28.480 About that fair enough. 0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:31.840 And then one of the other people I met was like, 0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:37.680 you know, America's crazy. I go, yes, I'm not, like yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:38.279 I know it. 0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:38.560 No. 0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:40.880 I remember I remember back in when I want to 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.200 on my semester abroad and stuff, I would like meet. 0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.120 I would hear people with what I thought were English 0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:47.719 American accents, and I would go, oh, are you guys 0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:49.880 from the States, And they'd be like, we're from Canada. 0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:52.160 Like they would get like offended, and I'd be like 0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:54.799 that was the first time, when I was twenty years old, 0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:56.960 when I went abroad to Italy, that I realized people 0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:59.799 didn't like America. I was like, I just like, you know, 0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:01.960 what did I know? Like up until that point, like 0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:05.520 I hadn't really left the country much. But America's Regina George. 0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:06.719 They're like obsessed with us. 0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:09.160 They know all our leadership, they know all our news, 0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.359 they talk about us, they watch our movies, they love 0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:15.040 our music, but then they hate our guts because we're lunatics. 0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:18.200 We're bullying. Yeah, it's like who has been physically who 0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.879 has been physically harmed by Regina George and the entire 0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:22.040 world is raising their hand. 0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:24.880 Yeah, but they can't get enough. They're just like ooh, 0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:29.000 Michael Jordan, you know, and then we're like okay. 0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:29.799 And then now we're bombing you. 0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:31.239 Yeah. 0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:32.240 So it's weird. 0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.760 Yeah, So you are starting to like feel for Denny 0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:38.799 because you're like, yeah, that sucks. You have a record 0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:40.319 because you like tried to steal a bag of chips 0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.120 because you were starving. You know, like, and they're like, 0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:45.080 but if you're such a victim, why does everyone else 0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:48.520 get hurt? And Munch accuses him of breaking Emily's leg 0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:51.000 and he's like, I would never hurt my daughter, and 0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:54.000 they're like right, like Randall the store clerk, Jamie, why 0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:55.880 don't you just tell us the truth? And Daddy Kragan 0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:59.080 like busts into grab them and he's like, bad news. 0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:01.799 Lab results clear, Denny. The blood doesn't match the hair 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:06.160 from the rape kit, and I guess that's that. So 0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:10.120 Denny's in the clear. So at a meeting, Craigan is 0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:14.359 standing next to doctor Emil Skoda Akajk Simmons baby, and 0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:17.759 he is mostly an original recipe guy, but he has 0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:19.520 been in six episodes of Best for You, and he 0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.000 was kind of the He was the Huang before Huang, 0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:26.080 the pre Huang Hwang, And so Cragan says they have 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:29.480 to reassess the profile now that Denny has been eliminated, 0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:32.239 and doctor Scota explains that whoever did this must have 0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:34.800 a finely tuned social radar to be able to navigate 0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.400 the two families and social groups in Emily's life, like, 0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:39.520 you know, there's the dad's side and the mom's side, 0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:44.359 so this is about displaced rage. He says sexual inadequacies 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:48.839 or abuse the in the perpetrator's own childhood and his 0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:52.200 insecurities drive his abusive behavior, but they could also drive 0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:54.600 him to excel in other areas, so he could be 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:56.840 the head of a fortune five hundred company. So that 0:40:56.960 --> 0:41:00.759 obviously is like alarm bells. Randall the rich daddy, the stepdaddy, 0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:04.560 and as we've discussed in former episodes, always beware of 0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:07.720 a stepdaddy. And then it turns out his plane didn't 0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:12.120 leave for DC until Monday morning, so it's possible he 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.960 was home the night that she was, you know, hurt. 0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:18.759 And so now they're looking back at Harry Aboden as well. 0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:21.160 And I looked up Brunei because this guy is the 0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:23.920 Minister for Protocol for the mission to Brunei. I don't 0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.279 know what any of that means. And Brunei is this 0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:29.600 like tiny nation of four hundred thousand people that's on 0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:33.120 the island of Borneo in Southeast Asia. So Borneo is 0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:36.680 part of Malaysia, I believe, and then Brunei is like 0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:40.480 its own little tiny country in it on this island. 0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:42.400 So I just thought that was interesting. It's very small. 0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:47.360 Benson and Stabler finally go visit the rich stepdaddy Randall McKenna, 0:41:47.960 --> 0:41:50.719 and in a classic lawn order fashion, he does not 0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:52.160 have times for the cops. He has to be a 0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:56.680 thirty Rock in forty minutes. Okay, they've been married for 0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:00.239 three years and Lois was a client and introduced so 0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:02.719 Jamie's mom. Lois was his client and was like, oh, 0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:06.279 you should meet my daughter with a daughter. And they 0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:08.560 do have a four year old son, so clearly the 0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:11.320 pregnancy fast tracked the marriage if they've only been married 0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:13.480 for three years, like stablish like we did the math. 0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:15.600 And also, I want to shame you because I'm weirdly 0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.680 Catholic about this kind of stuff. And they bring up 0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:22.759 Denny's accusations and he denies it all like he's like, 0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:25.279 I have not touched her, and they're like, okay, cool, 0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:28.200 give us DNA and he's like, you've already insulted me. 0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:30.200 I'm not going to let you invade my privacy too. 0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:33.319 So he lawyers up and leaves for his meeting at 0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.640 thirty Rock, and then Munch and Finn are at the 0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:39.239 Brunei Place. I don't know what this is like it's like, 0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.360 I don't know if you're like an ambassador or diplomat. 0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:43.400 I don't really get what it is. And Munch is 0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:45.239 back with the Zingers. He like points to one of 0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:46.799 the statues and he goes, I've got one of those 0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:48.399 hanging from a rope in my shower, but it does 0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:52.920 a spring fresh scent. Okay much? And then Abidin shows 0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:56.120 up and Finn introduces himself, and this man tells us 0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:59.680 that Tutuola means the gentle one in Yorubin, and I 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:02.879 love that for Finn, and Finn is also very very 0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.040 impressed that this man like knows your Ruben and knows 0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:08.839 what his last name means. So John munches, so Munch goes, 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:12.719 I'm John Munch. It's Romanian for the handsome one, zing Like, 0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:15.279 we're just it's non stop with him today, and he 0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:17.360 talks about how he took Emily to a matinee of 0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:19.239 the Lion King. So I was confused because the dad 0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:20.960 said she watched the Lion King in the afternoon, but 0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:24.080 I guess she was at a matinee with her random benefactor. 0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:26.560 And then he brought her home to her father's house 0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:30.040 and lois her grandmother was with them at the theater 0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:33.120 and his driver drove them, so he's got witnesses like 0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.560 he really didn't have opportunity to like molest or hurt 0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:38.360 this girl. And then they're like, oh, does Danny know 0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.600 that grandma comes on these field trips, And they're like, 0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:42.120 we thought it would be better to like keep that 0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.719 from him since he's like not in a great relationship 0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:47.360 with the family. So even though this grandma was like 0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:50.799 aboard aboard, now she's like, you know, at the Lion 0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:53.040 King Matinee is with her granddaughter, so I guess she 0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:55.680 does have like some kind of blood pumping in that 0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:58.239 black heart of hers and so not that it's bad 0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:00.440 to ask your daughter to get an abortion, and she 0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:03.920 just seems like mean anyway. Uh So we go to 0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:07.600 visit douchebag Justin at school and he is like such 0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.399 a future fucking date rapist. I can't even handle it. 0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:13.000 Like he's like, I don't know anything, I was asleep, 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:15.719 and Justin's like, yeah, they argue all the time. That's 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:18.120 why my Dunn ever comes home anymore, Like he's he's 0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:20.960 got some anger, but he also seems like just an asshole. 0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:24.440 So now at the precinct. Abiden has agreed to a 0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:26.839 DNA test, so that kind of makes him look pretty good. 0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:29.319 He's like, yeah, take it, take my spit, let's do it. 0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:31.680 And Randall is fighting it and that makes him look guilty. 0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:34.200 So Cabot is meeting with Petrofsky in the morning about 0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.960 the court order for Stepdaddy's DNA and Emily is still 0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:39.920 in a coma, and Stabler makes a comment that Emily's 0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.080 probably safer in the hospital than she is at home, 0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.239 and then the camera like stays on Munch for an 0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:46.160 extra beat, so like you we're kind of seeing like 0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.560 he's pondering, like we're we're seeing how this case is 0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:52.840 like affecting him. So at the hospital, Munch is visiting 0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:55.640 Emily and it's very sad. She's hooked up to machines 0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:58.000 that she's got the all the way around bandages, and 0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:01.520 Munch that we when it's on a grown man who 0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:02.960 just got his dick cut off, it's funny, but when 0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:04.600 it's on a little kid, it's a little bit more sad. 0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:07.959 And then Munch brings her a stuffed lion and puts 0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:09.680 it next to her bed, which is like cute. That's 0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:12.160 like a symbol of courage and stuff, and it's very cute. 0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:14.160 I do love when you know that there's going to 0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:16.560 be a personal connection with the detective. You know what 0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:18.040 I mean, We're going to get a tail at the 0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:20.520 end of this. Why much caretting up this kid the 0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:21.600 most exactly? 0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:25.080 They're setting this up like like this time it's personal 0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:28.760 for Munch. So now we're in Petrovski's chambers with Cabot 0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:31.640 and Randall McKenna's lawyer, and the lawyer's arguing they have 0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:34.600 not proved that there was exclusive opportunity and it's like, dude, 0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:37.319 he lives with the victim, there is exclusive opportunity all 0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:39.840 night as they sleep in the same apartment together, and 0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:43.120 Cabot fucking kills it, and Petrovsky's like, yeah, bring that 0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:45.000 Wall Street sack of shit in here for the swab, 0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:46.759 Like I'm going with Cabot on the. 0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:49.440 See sv tattoo is going to be a heart with 0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:50.800 Petrovsky in the banner. 0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:54.960 I would love for you to not have to explain 0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:57.200 that to people, just like she's this dope ass judge. 0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:01.800 Her name's Joanna Merlin. We love her. You think that 0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:02.800 would be so funny? 0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:06.040 I obviously love our detectives, but I feel weird having 0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:08.280 like a like you know, we're a cab at heart. 0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:11.160 Yeah, it's kind of done. It's like and it's basic, 0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:15.000 Like I think to take a staple character who is 0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:17.719 amazing but not a cast member, that's a move. 0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:18.120 I like it. 0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:19.040 Yeah, this is the first time. 0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:21.400 Every time you say Petrovsky, we do get joy like, 0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:22.440 we do get excited. 0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:26.120 Yeah, she's such a great actor. I think she teaches too. 0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:30.359 Oh can you imagine. So now they're all chatting about 0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:32.600 the case and Stabler gets a call that Randall McKenna 0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:36.120 is in critical condition at Mercy General. Twist what has happened? 0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:39.960 And he has a slilly cerebral hemorrhage from blunt force trauma. Basically, 0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:43.000 he got his ass beat. So Munch is at Denny's 0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:46.360 apartment building being let upstairs by this very loud woman. 0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:48.680 I don't want to be like, speak out of school, 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:50.920 But does she seem like she's Russian or Russian adjacent? 0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:54.000 The woman she's like, oh, yes, he loves a daughter, 0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:56.680 like she's just like seems like an old Russian lady 0:46:56.680 --> 0:47:00.000 who would like that's the landlord. And at one point 0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.239 she doesn't hear what Munch says, and he asks her 0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:04.200 a question more loudly, and she goes, you'll don't have 0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:06.960 to shout, And they're just like pouring the comedy into 0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:10.960 this episode because otherwise it's a dark ass episode. So anyway, 0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:13.879 Finn and Munch go through Emily's room at Denny's house. 0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:15.680 She has a really sweet little room in his house, 0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:18.800 and he picks up a copy of Oh the Places 0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:21.200 You'll Go, And then they get a call from Benson 0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:23.280 that Denny got caught trying to sneak in the hospital 0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:25.799 to see Emily, and so Finn goes, hope he said 0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.400 his goodbyes, and we panned to Finn. He's like holding 0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:32.000 this T shirt that is covered in blood, and it's like, dog, 0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:34.480 that's a fucking Haynes T shirt. Like throw it out 0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:36.799 the window. You're most likely to get caught. Like why 0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:40.720 are you keeping a blood soap shirt in your apartment? Anyway, 0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:44.640 crime one oh one? You know. So Benson and Stabler 0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:47.000 are now interrogating Denny and he's like, I didn't mean 0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:49.600 to hurt him. Friday is the deadline. I could not 0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:52.080 hand my daughter over to a man who's molesting her. 0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:55.000 Jamie told him that he broke the deal and that 0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:57.080 Randal was going to press the charges anyway. So he 0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:59.239 went to go and try to talk to Randall man 0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:02.000 to man, and he got stopped in the lobby by security. 0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:04.040 So he waited for Randall by his car, and then 0:48:04.040 --> 0:48:06.840 when he finally came out at almost midnight, he said, 0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:09.759 when he first saw Denny, he started screaming at him 0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:11.560 and said, I'm gonna charge you with harassment, and then 0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:14.320 he begged Randall, please don't do this, and Randall laughed. 0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:17.359 And we all know how men go fucking see red 0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:20.799 when someone laughs at them, So he said he laughed 0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:22.560 at him and said, Jamie's mother knows people at the 0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:25.239 State Department, like you're deported, you're out of here. And 0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:27.239 Denny just loses it, and like, what. 0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:29.160 An evil piece of shit to laugh, Like this man 0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:31.319 just wants to be with his child, Like do you 0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:33.520 really you're gonna laugh at him? 0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:36.880 Fucking yeah, smack his ass. I would smack his ass. 0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:40.000 It's horrible. So yeah, he loses it. He's on top 0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:42.080 of Randall, he's pummeling him with punches, and then he 0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:44.920 kind of realized this guy's not moving anymore. So he 0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:47.720 called nine one one. It's like, he's not cold blooded. 0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:49.680 I think he really did like sea red and just 0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:52.120 go nuts. And then he called and he also thinks 0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:54.719 he's punching a man who's been like systematically abusing his 0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:57.200 daughter for years, So he calls nine one one. 0:48:57.239 --> 0:48:57.799 He goes home. 0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:00.000 He keeps his bloody Hanes T shirt, but he changed 0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:02.359 close and then he just said he wanted to see 0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:04.440 Emily one more time before he turned himself in. And 0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:07.319 I don't know I believe him. And Benson said, you 0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:09.440 did a real number on him, and Denny replies, no, 0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:12.399 worse than what he did to my baby. So kind 0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:15.800 of got you there, Benson. And then Cragan is telling 0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:18.080 the gang that Denny should have let the system work 0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:21.160 for him. It's like lol, like come on, and Munch 0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:22.879 is like, yeah, he doesn't really have a great track 0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:25.000 record with the system. I can understand why he sort 0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:28.279 of went vigilante. And then Benson tells them that the 0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:31.759 hair sample in the rape kit came from a hair brush, 0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:34.359 So there's I guess there was a hair and there 0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:36.680 was a bristle, and the bristles from a hair brush, 0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:40.319 and so the hair sample was also in the hair 0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:42.960 brush and it comes from a member of Randall's blood line. 0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:44.840 It's not from Randall, but it's from someone in his 0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:48.359 blood line, so uh oh, that points to douchebag Justin. 0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:53.080 So at the McKenna home, Jamie is whining how she's 0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:55.920 a victim and her whole family has suffered enough, and 0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:58.080 Munch is in Emily's room. Now now we're in Emily's 0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:00.440 other room at her mom's house, and he opens up 0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:03.160 this little jewelry box that's like playing music, and he 0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:06.120 finds this old hospital bracelet in there. And then as 0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:09.360 he's leaving, this is like a haunting moment, he sees 0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:12.360 the four year old little Michael, who's nonverbal, in the hallway, 0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:14.880 and the kid's just looking at him with this like 0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:19.840 really like sad look like the kid just looks really sad, 0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:22.919 and you never know why that could be, but you're 0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:25.319 just like, oh, something is fucked up here, and this 0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:27.439 kid can't even talk about it because he doesn't talk. 0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:31.239 And so Stabler is now searching Justin's room and he 0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:34.080 finds a hairbrush, just as Justin walks in and goes, 0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:37.840 what the help, bro, that's mine, and Stabler's face is 0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:40.520 like if you fucking think it's beneath me to bitch 0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:42.480 lap a fifteen year old, you are so wrong. Like, 0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:44.560 I just love how Stabler looks like he really wants 0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:46.799 to kill this kid the whole time. And so now 0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:49.560 they've got Justin in interrogation and he lays it all 0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:51.520 out and this is actually a very funny line from 0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:53.480 this juchhey kid. He goes, none of this would be 0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:55.920 happening if that bitch hadn't sucked my dad into her 0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:59.360 crappy life. I just thought that was like a really 0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:03.279 funny like, yeah, yeah, this woman sucked my dad to 0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:08.799 her crappy life. But you know, he just doesn't like 0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:11.680 a step mom, it seems. And he says, all Emily 0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:14.359 does is cry and it's annoying, and everything was fine 0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:16.200 until she showed up, and now it all sucks and 0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:17.680 I just want them to go away. He just wants 0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:19.000 to go back to, like we don't know where his 0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:20.560 mom is, but he just wants to go back to 0:51:20.600 --> 0:51:23.720 like being with his dad. And so Jamie is telling 0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:27.200 Benson how she has come home before and found Emily 0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:30.800 crying with Justin just standing over her, and she knew 0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:32.879 he was like a resentful little fuck, but she never 0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.359 thought he was like full on abusing her. So this 0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:38.319 is all news to Jamie. She's very doe. I like, 0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:41.320 I could not have imagined this. And then when asked 0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:43.640 about the arguing between her and her husband, she said, 0:51:43.680 --> 0:51:46.440 if we argued about anything, it was just about Justin's 0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:49.640 attitude towards Emily. So she's all the stuff that was 0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:53.000 never brought up before. She's now fully fueling the cops 0:51:53.280 --> 0:51:55.759 theory that Justin had something to do with this. So 0:51:55.920 --> 0:51:58.319 Jamie tells Olivia that after she put Emily to bed 0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:00.160 that night, she took Michael to the drug store to 0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:02.919 refill his asthma medication and the line was so long 0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:04.960 and it took them an hour to get home. Her 0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:07.640 husband was at the office, and so that would be 0:52:07.719 --> 0:52:10.400 a pretty long window where Emily was with Justin alone, 0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:13.120 and Jamie's like, I looked in on her before I 0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:15.919 went to bed. She looked so peaceful. It's like, yes, 0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:18.399 she was already in a coma, like, so she did 0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:21.000 look peaceful. And now she's blaming herself, like, how could 0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:23.840 I have been so blind? Like YadA YadA. She's you know, 0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:28.000 definitely dramatic, this woman, and so behind the one way glass. 0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:30.960 Stabler is letting Craigan and Munch know that they got 0:52:31.000 --> 0:52:33.240 a hit on the hair and it is Justin's DNA 0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:36.320 and maybe that's why Dad resisted giving up his sample 0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:38.680 to protect his son. And so they decide to throw 0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:40.520 Justin in a cell for a little while and see 0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:42.800 if they can like scared straight him into a confession. 0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:46.840 And so they lead him through the precinct right past 0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:50.640 his stepmom and she's like literally going for the SVU 0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:53.040 Teacher's pat Award. She's like, anything else I can do. 0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:55.719 I could write out my statement, like she doesn't want 0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:58.520 to leave, it seems, and Olivia's like, we're all good, 0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:00.640 Like you know, we've got you on tape where we 0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:02.239 don't need you to write it out, Like you can 0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:05.120 get out of here with your small son. So she 0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:07.440 leaves with Michael and Munch is like wow, she almost 0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:10.719 seems like disappointed. And Olivia is in like a just 0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:14.080 a fashion moment. Olivia is in like a wine colored 0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:16.400 I could say purple, but it is a little bit darker, 0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:20.200 high necked sleepless number that like really shows off her arms. 0:53:20.200 --> 0:53:23.040 It's like very two thousand, I feel like, and she's 0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:26.719 defending Jamie. She's like, listen, her husband may never walk, 0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:29.040 her daughter's in a coma, her steps on's facing jail time, 0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:32.840 and her ex is being deported. She's not disappointed, She's numb. 0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:35.840 And Finn's like, okay, Munch, like, what's your theory? You 0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:37.680 seem like you want to say something, so what like 0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:39.959 give it up? And Munch is like okay, Well, first off, 0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:42.160 where are the hospital records that show all of this 0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:45.360 ongoing abuse? And then he shows them the hospital bracelet 0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:46.800 he found in the jewelry box and it has the 0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:50.360 name Erica Smith on it, so what's going on? So 0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:53.240 they go to that clinic that matches the hospital bracelet, 0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:55.960 the Hudson Free Clinic, and a nurse finds the record 0:53:55.960 --> 0:53:58.600 that Erica Smith came in for vaginal bleeding and was 0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:02.040 prescribed in antibacterial ointment and sent home. I'm like what. 0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:05.239 They're like, didn't you suspect abuse? She's like, yeah, we 0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:07.640 filed a report, but like no one filed followed up, 0:54:07.719 --> 0:54:11.120 you know, probably because it's a fake name. And then 0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:12.600 they're like, well do they leave an address? And the 0:54:12.680 --> 0:54:14.800 nurses like yeah, the address is right there, and Finn's 0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:16.640 like okay, well, this is in the middle of the 0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:18.239 East River, and I'm like, so are many of the 0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:21.439 SVU locations, Like some of the locations are like one 0:54:21.560 --> 0:54:25.799 thousand East forty fourth Street. You're like, that is in Connecticut. 0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:29.279 So anyway, Finn goes, you thinking what I'm thinking, and 0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:32.120 Munch goes, we've been had, which I like their old 0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:34.680 school like detective shtick that they have going on there, 0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:37.400 and so they bust out of there. Finn and Munch 0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:40.080 are back at the precinct revealing what they found out, 0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:43.120 which is that Erica Smith is Emily. They found matches 0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:46.919 at four different clinics and hospitals, different aliases, always paid 0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:49.719 in cash, et cetera. So Munch breaks it down and 0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:51.959 is like, we've been focusing on a mail attacker because 0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:53.960 of the quote unquote like sexual abuse. But what if 0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:56.480 it was Jamie and the injuries aren't even sexual like? 0:54:57.040 --> 0:55:00.120 And so Craigan goes, well, that's one way to ensure custody, 0:55:00.400 --> 0:55:02.600 like is to abuse the kid and then pin it 0:55:02.640 --> 0:55:04.840 on your ex. And Olivia's like, and if the daughter 0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:08.080 dies in the process, And then in slides E Meal 0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:12.480 Scota JK. Simmons wearing an aggressive Navy turtleneck and blazer, 0:55:12.600 --> 0:55:15.920 and he's like, that would be a bonus, Like if 0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:18.040 this woman doesn't give a shit about her kids, and 0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:19.880 her daughter is a means to an end, and that 0:55:20.040 --> 0:55:22.839 end is attention. And he explains that people who have 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:26.560 suffered abuse in childhood tend to repeat this pattern and 0:55:26.600 --> 0:55:29.080 that in this case it's kind of an extreme one 0:55:29.120 --> 0:55:32.600 because the rage is so apparent, but in the end, 0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:35.480 she's just wrapping herself in the warm cloak of victimhood, 0:55:35.480 --> 0:55:38.239 he says. And Stabler's like, well, then why hide it 0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:41.120 with all these aliases in shady hospital visits, Like you know, 0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:43.040 that's kind of why these people will do, like the 0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:45.680 long term poisoning with the leukemia and stuff like that, 0:55:45.760 --> 0:55:48.560 to get all the attention out in the open. And 0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:50.880 he's like, well, it was to control the outcome. Like 0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:52.880 now she can kind of help pin it on whoever 0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:54.680 she needs to so that she doesn't get in trouble 0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:58.439 for anything. And so now we're back talking to punk 0:55:58.480 --> 0:56:01.279 ass Justin and he's like whatever, like he will not 0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:03.799 talk or help and Stabler's like, you little shit, we 0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:06.360 are actually trying to help you. So if you could 0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:09.120 like just fucking stop being a dick for a second, 0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:11.360 you're gonna you won't end up throwing touchdowns in the 0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:14.480 prison tag football league. So he's like, look, I have 0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:16.839 no idea how long Jamie was gone. The minute she left, 0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:18.200 I went for a run in the park because I 0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:20.600 was bored as hell, and I'm sure people saw me, 0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:22.880 but I didn't take names. Like this kid is like 0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:26.080 fucking the worst. And he said he was gone an hour. 0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:28.520 He describes his root where he ran, and then like 0:56:28.840 --> 0:56:30.719 when he got home, his stepmother chewed him out for 0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:32.920 leaving his sister alone, and he's like, who cares she 0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:34.680 was asleep, and it's like, I don't know. I just 0:56:34.719 --> 0:56:36.040 feel like, you know, you don't leave a seven year 0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:38.919 old at home in a New York apartment. But Munch 0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:42.200 is like, okay, so Jamie could have hurt Emily before 0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:44.360 Justin got home. But Daddy Craigan is like, this is 0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:46.719 just more finger pointing, like we need proof, baby, And 0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:49.600 so Finn's like, what about the druggist? And I had 0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:51.440 not really heard that before, but that is a sexier 0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:54.680 name for a pharmacist. And so they go check in 0:56:54.719 --> 0:56:57.200 with this nosy door man, and we do love a 0:56:57.239 --> 0:57:00.360 nosy doorman around here. So he is a wonderful SVU 0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:03.160 staple character. And this guy is like a full svew 0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:06.120 TikTok parody. He never stops unloading bags, like while he's 0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:07.840 talking to the cops, Like we barely see a shot 0:57:07.840 --> 0:57:11.120 of this actor's face because he's just constantly like removing 0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:14.439 bags from a car while delivering a full monologue about 0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:17.640 this family. And he's like, yeah, Jamie left with little Michael. 0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:19.640 Then Justin left one on a run. I told him 0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:21.640 don't go to the park, but he doesn't remember Jamie 0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:23.040 coming back, but it could have been while he was 0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:25.080 taking a powder. And I just I can't with a 0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:27.480 man talking about taking a powder. But here we are. 0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:33.720 Munch shows up with interesting info from the pharmacist. He 0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:37.280 said that the receipt actually shows that she came after closing. 0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:39.479 She called up and bitched and moaned about like coming 0:57:39.480 --> 0:57:41.960 in to get this refill. So he stayed open for 0:57:42.000 --> 0:57:43.760 her and she was in and out in five minutes, 0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:45.960 so there was none of this hour long wait bullshit 0:57:46.000 --> 0:57:48.760 that she told them. So back at the precinct, everyone's 0:57:48.760 --> 0:57:50.760 in a big meeting and Cabot is like, guys, this 0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:52.880 is not enough like, even if we could prove she 0:57:52.920 --> 0:57:55.520 took Emily to all those hospital visits, you can't bootstrap 0:57:55.520 --> 0:57:58.160 aggravated a child abuse to her conduct without a more 0:57:58.160 --> 0:58:02.120 definitive causal link. Munch is like, well, Scota said, this 0:58:02.160 --> 0:58:04.120 is about a need for attention, and I gave her 0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:06.920 my pager number, and guess who's been paging me. And 0:58:06.960 --> 0:58:09.120 it looks like she's jones in for a sympathy fix. 0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:10.760 And they're like, well, what are you thinking, and Munch 0:58:10.840 --> 0:58:14.080 is like, feed the junkie. So now Munch brings in Jamie. 0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:16.720 He's got her an interrogation. Everyone's watching on the other 0:58:16.760 --> 0:58:19.600 side of the glass. It's like the entertainment for the evening. 0:58:20.000 --> 0:58:22.560 And he's like, we're going to get Justin out here 0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:24.080 and get him home to you. I mean, if that's 0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:25.800 cool with you, if you're going to take him back, 0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:27.680 and she's like, I don't know. He scares me. He 0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:29.760 might hurt Emily again just to get back at me. 0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:31.880 And he says it must be tough to be an 0:58:31.920 --> 0:58:34.280 outcast in your own home, and Jamie's like, you don't 0:58:34.320 --> 0:58:36.360 know the half of it, and he goes, actually I do, 0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:38.840 and he plops a folder down in front of her, 0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:41.680 and it's her file from when she was a kid, 0:58:41.720 --> 0:58:44.640 and boy, she is delighted to see it, Like she 0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:47.400 acts like somebody wrote a biography about her and she's 0:58:47.480 --> 0:58:48.960 just getting a chance to look at it for the 0:58:49.000 --> 0:58:52.480 first time. And she has very two thousand's eyebrows. This 0:58:52.520 --> 0:58:55.800 woman too, like they are thin and barely their eyebrows. 0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:59.200 And so he says to her, Yeah, she goes, I 0:58:59.200 --> 0:59:01.160 thought it was sealed. I thought my record was sealed, 0:59:01.200 --> 0:59:02.760 and he goes, I got it from a friend in 0:59:02.880 --> 0:59:06.520 children's services who remembered you and said that all her 0:59:06.560 --> 0:59:10.360 superiors were nervous about investigating an ambassador for sexually abusing 0:59:10.400 --> 0:59:13.960 his eleven year old daughter. So twist like we're finding 0:59:13.960 --> 0:59:18.280 out that Jamie has not had a wonderful childhood. Munch 0:59:18.440 --> 0:59:21.320 is like really handling her, like he's really like that 0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:23.480 must have been so hard for you. And then he's like, 0:59:23.720 --> 0:59:25.760 and how did your mother take it on? And she 0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:27.720 was like, well, she was just jealous because daddy couldn't 0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:29.480 stand to touch her. And it's like, yes, because he 0:59:29.560 --> 0:59:31.439 was a pedophile and your mother was far too old 0:59:31.480 --> 0:59:38.360 for him. So that's what happened, Yeah, and that's why 0:59:38.400 --> 0:59:40.560 she got sent to boarding school. She said she begged 0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:43.920 not to go. But what mother wants mother gets, and 0:59:43.960 --> 0:59:46.960 that to me like echoes a little bit what Denny 0:59:47.040 --> 0:59:50.320 said about Jamie at the beginning, Like what Jamie wants, 0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:52.479 Jamie gets, no matter who it hurts. He said something 0:59:52.480 --> 0:59:55.600 to that effect. So it's just interesting how this generational 0:59:56.080 --> 1:00:02.360 trauma happens. And so then Munch tells Jamie that he's like, well, 1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:04.720 here's the thing. Emily came out of her coma and 1:00:04.760 --> 1:00:07.520 she told us everything, and so you could see her 1:00:07.520 --> 1:00:10.520 face be like, oh fuck. So then Munch is like, okay, 1:00:10.560 --> 1:00:13.960 let's talk hairbrush, and she's like it's Justin's and he's like, 1:00:14.160 --> 1:00:17.240 but with Emily's testimony, and she's like, Emily is a liar. 1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:21.360 Like suddenly we're, you know, defaming our seven year old 1:00:21.440 --> 1:00:25.800 coma daughter. And she starts telling much how Denny has 1:00:25.800 --> 1:00:28.200 poisoned Emily against her, and Munch is like, it's okay, 1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:31.000 just tell me your side, and Jamie's like, okay. We 1:00:31.000 --> 1:00:33.880 were driving home and Emily wouldn't stop crying, so she 1:00:33.960 --> 1:00:36.200 pulled over to talk to her, and that's when Emily 1:00:36.280 --> 1:00:39.480 told her about the Cuba trip. And so she pulled 1:00:39.480 --> 1:00:41.200 her out of the car and Emily hit her head 1:00:41.240 --> 1:00:43.479 on the curb and Munch is like, come on, girl, 1:00:43.560 --> 1:00:46.040 and then she admits, Okay, I shoved her, but not hard. 1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:49.600 I just wanted her to stop whining. So he's like, okay, 1:00:49.640 --> 1:00:51.320 well did it work, and she goes it was the 1:00:51.320 --> 1:00:53.960 first time she was quiet all day. She was really sleepy, 1:00:54.240 --> 1:00:56.000 so I put her to bed when we got home, 1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:57.800 but then when I came back from the drug store, 1:00:57.840 --> 1:00:59.920 she was crying again. I told her she had to 1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:01.920 be a good girl so her new daddy would love 1:01:01.920 --> 1:01:04.120 her too, but she wouldn't stop, and she was doing 1:01:04.120 --> 1:01:07.360 it to spite me, which is like, I mean, trust me. 1:01:07.400 --> 1:01:09.720 I have dealt with four meltdowns from my three year 1:01:09.760 --> 1:01:12.000 old in the past forty eight hours that were epic, 1:01:12.120 --> 1:01:15.880 going on forty five minutes, like unconsolable meltdowns like it's 1:01:15.880 --> 1:01:17.800 not about you, Like it's just not about you. It's 1:01:17.840 --> 1:01:19.720 never about you. They're not doing anything to spite you. 1:01:19.760 --> 1:01:20.080 They are. 1:01:20.240 --> 1:01:23.160 Yeah, kids having aren't there yet, and if they are, 1:01:23.280 --> 1:01:25.360 then there should be a movie about them being the devil. 1:01:25.560 --> 1:01:28.760 Like I don't think a three year old has those 1:01:28.880 --> 1:01:30.400 parts of their brain right out. 1:01:30.440 --> 1:01:34.760 Yeah, right, no, for sure. So then she said, I 1:01:34.880 --> 1:01:38.280 use the hairbrush to discipline her, and my mom used 1:01:38.320 --> 1:01:40.480 a hairbrush on me. But Emily just kept screaming. And 1:01:40.520 --> 1:01:42.400 it's like this because you're spanking her with a fucking 1:01:42.400 --> 1:01:45.560 hair brush. And perhaps it's also because she had a 1:01:45.560 --> 1:01:48.280 massive like blood clot forming under her skull and that 1:01:48.320 --> 1:01:50.880 was a little bit painful. So she said, Emily was 1:01:50.920 --> 1:01:53.720 screaming louder and louder. What was she supposed to do? 1:01:53.920 --> 1:01:55.800 And then Munch said the only thing you could do, 1:01:56.280 --> 1:01:59.240 and then her face changes, like her face like drops 1:01:59.240 --> 1:02:02.880 into like evil face, and she's like and it's like, okay, Munch, 1:02:02.920 --> 1:02:04.320 this is what you wanted and here it is, and 1:02:04.360 --> 1:02:06.960 she just goes. I threw her against the wall. So 1:02:06.960 --> 1:02:09.280 she said, Emily finally stopped crying and she tucked her 1:02:09.320 --> 1:02:10.880 into bed, kissed her on the cheek and told her 1:02:10.960 --> 1:02:12.840 she loved her. And she's like, I just wanted her 1:02:12.840 --> 1:02:15.400 to stop crying. Is that too much to ask? And 1:02:15.520 --> 1:02:17.840 Munch is like, okay, I'm done charming this lady. And 1:02:17.880 --> 1:02:20.680 he's like fully disgusted. He's got his confession, and he 1:02:20.720 --> 1:02:23.520 walks out of the interrogation room and Craigan's like, good work, John, 1:02:23.600 --> 1:02:25.920 and Munch just keeps walking like this one you can 1:02:25.920 --> 1:02:27.120 tell like really hit him hard. 1:02:27.400 --> 1:02:28.680 Well yeah, but also it's like what are they going 1:02:28.720 --> 1:02:30.680 to do? High five and be like good game. 1:02:30.480 --> 1:02:34.160 Good game, Yeah, like we did it. Yeah, but like 1:02:34.360 --> 1:02:36.680 he did kind of that was all Munch like he 1:02:36.760 --> 1:02:38.760 got it out of her because I think he knew 1:02:38.800 --> 1:02:41.919 how to deal with her. And so Benson finds Munch 1:02:41.960 --> 1:02:45.200 on the roof and we find out that, as I suspected, 1:02:45.200 --> 1:02:48.080 at least I'm sure most people suspected, Munch bluffed about Emily, 1:02:48.280 --> 1:02:52.000 she's not out of her coma. And Munch is like, 1:02:52.000 --> 1:02:53.560 like Elivia is like, I don't know what we would 1:02:53.560 --> 1:02:54.920 have done if she had asked to see her, and 1:02:55.040 --> 1:02:56.840 Munch was like, yeah, she doesn't give a shit about 1:02:56.840 --> 1:02:58.320 her kids. Like I knew she wasn't going to ask 1:02:58.320 --> 1:03:00.800 because she doesn't care. And Benson like, how did you know? 1:03:00.960 --> 1:03:03.560 Like how did you piece this all together? And he's like, well, 1:03:03.600 --> 1:03:06.160 when we searched the house and that four year o 1:03:06.200 --> 1:03:08.440 little boy, like that moment I talked about, She's like 1:03:08.800 --> 1:03:11.960 when he was just looking at me, it reminded me 1:03:12.040 --> 1:03:13.880 of this little girl who I lived across the street 1:03:13.920 --> 1:03:15.840 from on the Lower east Side when I was growing up, 1:03:16.880 --> 1:03:19.720 she had that same look in her eyes, sad and lost. 1:03:20.040 --> 1:03:23.120 And she used to stand on her porch every afternoon. 1:03:23.160 --> 1:03:24.880 I've never seen a porch on the Lower east Side, 1:03:24.880 --> 1:03:29.440 but that's neither. And then maybe a stupid a soup, yeah, stoop, 1:03:29.520 --> 1:03:31.840 and so like when he came home from school, she 1:03:31.880 --> 1:03:34.280 would be standing there every day, like with a black eye, 1:03:34.320 --> 1:03:36.760 a bloody lip, and she never said anything. She just 1:03:36.800 --> 1:03:39.040 looked at Munch and he was like a teen and 1:03:39.240 --> 1:03:41.200 was like two, wrapped up in his own bullshit, he says, 1:03:41.200 --> 1:03:43.240 and he didn't pay attention. And then one day she 1:03:43.360 --> 1:03:45.880 wasn't there, and I found out that her mother threw 1:03:45.920 --> 1:03:48.720 her through a plate glass window. And he said, I 1:03:48.760 --> 1:03:50.680 went to the funeral and I saw her dad, and 1:03:50.720 --> 1:03:52.720 that was the first time I saw a grown man cry. 1:03:53.160 --> 1:03:55.160 And they sent the mother to a sanitarium, and the 1:03:55.200 --> 1:03:57.200 mother told Munch's mother she didn't get what all the 1:03:57.240 --> 1:03:58.760 fuss was about. She was the one who had to 1:03:58.800 --> 1:04:04.000 get a new window. So definitely a psychopath mom. And 1:04:04.960 --> 1:04:06.880 months later he'd come home and like look up at 1:04:06.920 --> 1:04:08.600 the porch and he would swear he could see the 1:04:08.640 --> 1:04:10.919 little girl standing there with that same look, and he's 1:04:10.920 --> 1:04:13.800 like really sniffling, like Munch is like getting very emotional, 1:04:13.960 --> 1:04:16.000 and it's like kind of a different look on him. 1:04:16.520 --> 1:04:18.680 And oh, I said, final scene, But this isn't the 1:04:18.680 --> 1:04:20.960 final scene. The final scene is actually the next one 1:04:21.000 --> 1:04:24.600 where Munch goes to Emily's hospital room and she's still 1:04:24.600 --> 1:04:26.840 sitting there so tiny, with her head all bandaged up 1:04:26.840 --> 1:04:30.560 and on you know, oxygen and machines, and he sits 1:04:30.600 --> 1:04:32.280 there and starts to read to her from Oh the 1:04:32.320 --> 1:04:34.440 Places You'll Go, and then right in the middle of 1:04:34.480 --> 1:04:37.120 the doctor Seuss, we fade to black and that's Dick 1:04:37.160 --> 1:04:41.240 wolf O, a tough one. Yeah, you hope that she'll 1:04:41.240 --> 1:04:43.160 come out. You'll hope that like her brain swelling will 1:04:43.160 --> 1:04:47.040 go down and she'll come out of it. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, 1:04:47.760 --> 1:04:51.120 is good at that? Yeah, Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. 1:04:51.160 --> 1:04:52.000 We're hoping for the best. 1:04:52.040 --> 1:04:52.400 Family. 1:04:53.600 --> 1:04:55.640 Thank you for that, and we'll be back with some 1:04:55.800 --> 1:05:11.560 horrific real life true crime. Okay, So this case is 1:05:11.600 --> 1:05:15.480 about a girl named Elisa Scaredo. This happened in New 1:05:15.560 --> 1:05:20.120 York in the nineties and it's very horrific. So it 1:05:20.280 --> 1:05:24.080 was like a day before Thanksgiving nine twenty four am, 1:05:24.160 --> 1:05:26.560 and there was a call from a man saying that 1:05:26.680 --> 1:05:29.720 a little six year old girl had stopped breathing. And 1:05:29.720 --> 1:05:32.760 then when the police, firefighters, and paramedics arrived at the 1:05:32.840 --> 1:05:37.000 Rutgers housing projects in Lower Manhattan, they found Alisa in 1:05:37.040 --> 1:05:39.880 her bed with deep red blotches all over her body 1:05:40.360 --> 1:05:43.680 and it wasn't very clear what they were, well, cigarette burns, 1:05:43.680 --> 1:05:44.800 like everyone's like, what is it? 1:05:44.840 --> 1:05:46.760 But her entire body was covered. 1:05:47.720 --> 1:05:49.760 On the right side of her body near the kidney 1:05:49.880 --> 1:05:52.560 was an enormous bruise, and she had other bruises on 1:05:52.600 --> 1:05:56.040 her face and around her temples, and obviously things just 1:05:56.120 --> 1:05:59.480 keep getting worse. There were wounds around her genitals and 1:05:59.560 --> 1:06:02.400 the bone of her right hand pinky was poking fully 1:06:02.440 --> 1:06:07.880 through her skin. My god, a police lieutenant with twenty 1:06:07.880 --> 1:06:10.400 two years of work experience at the time said it 1:06:10.440 --> 1:06:12.680 was the worst case of child abuse he had ever seen, 1:06:12.880 --> 1:06:14.440 and he said that to Newsweek. 1:06:15.360 --> 1:06:16.640 So going back in. 1:06:16.680 --> 1:06:20.520 Time, Alisa's parents met in a shelter for the homeless 1:06:20.520 --> 1:06:25.000 in nineteen eighty seven. Gus Iscardo was a Cuban immigrant. 1:06:25.480 --> 1:06:27.480 This is actually like very close to the episode. In 1:06:27.520 --> 1:06:29.960 a lot of ways. So he was a Cuban immigrant 1:06:29.960 --> 1:06:32.840 and he cleaned and served food at the homeless shelter 1:06:33.080 --> 1:06:37.360 and a Wheelda Lopez was a Puerto Rican raised in 1:06:37.360 --> 1:06:40.560 Brooklyn who landed at the shelter with her two kids 1:06:40.600 --> 1:06:44.600 after breaking up with her boyfriend. The two started hooking up, 1:06:44.680 --> 1:06:47.520 but Gus broke it off because Lopez was fully addicted 1:06:47.520 --> 1:06:50.000 to crack and he was not for that crack lifestyle. 1:06:50.800 --> 1:06:53.920 But Alisa was born and she was fully addicted to 1:06:53.960 --> 1:06:56.280 drugs when she was born, and social workers took her 1:06:56.320 --> 1:06:59.760 away and gave custody to Gus, and Gus on all accounts, 1:07:00.120 --> 1:07:02.840 was like new for him. This was a surprise in 1:07:02.880 --> 1:07:05.800 his life. But on all accounts, a doting, caring father, 1:07:06.600 --> 1:07:09.840 like did a great job, always asking for advice, like 1:07:10.160 --> 1:07:13.480 wanting to be a good dad. He got her into 1:07:13.760 --> 1:07:18.880 a Montessori day school. Hello, and he brushed her hair, 1:07:19.200 --> 1:07:21.240 and so everyone keeps talking like, oh, he brushed her hair, 1:07:21.240 --> 1:07:23.600 and I guess for a father, that's like huge, huge 1:07:23.600 --> 1:07:26.919 accomplishment brushing her child there. But people said he was good, 1:07:27.440 --> 1:07:30.480 and so this is very connected to the episode. 1:07:30.520 --> 1:07:32.720 While she was at the school at the. 1:07:32.680 --> 1:07:37.520 YWCA, the Montessori school in Brooklyn. Prince Michael of Greece 1:07:37.640 --> 1:07:40.360 wanted to like do community service work and he was 1:07:40.360 --> 1:07:43.240 looking at different organizations to get involved in. And when 1:07:43.240 --> 1:07:46.080 he went to the Montessori school, Elisa like jumped into 1:07:46.080 --> 1:07:48.640 his arms and refused to leave him and like hugged him, 1:07:49.040 --> 1:07:50.880 and so they kind of had a connection. And he 1:07:50.920 --> 1:07:53.680 was obviously like taken by this girl who like hugged 1:07:53.720 --> 1:07:56.200 him and didn't want to leave him. He knew like 1:07:56.280 --> 1:07:58.800 little about her life, but he did want to like 1:07:58.880 --> 1:08:02.360 pay for her tuition, and he just wanted to get 1:08:02.360 --> 1:08:07.360 involved beyond money as well, and he just, yeah, he 1:08:07.400 --> 1:08:09.800 wanted to help her and take care of the tuition 1:08:09.920 --> 1:08:13.000 and stuff. And there was no like weirdness or hanky panky. 1:08:12.760 --> 1:08:13.400 And stuff like that. 1:08:13.600 --> 1:08:18.080 So Prince Michael of Greece had a connection with her 1:08:18.479 --> 1:08:22.360 in the school and so like while she was at school, 1:08:23.040 --> 1:08:25.519 Gus was trying to raise her and he tried to 1:08:25.560 --> 1:08:30.080 keep Lopez away, but she entered a drug rehab clinic 1:08:30.160 --> 1:08:32.719 and got married at the end of November in nineteen 1:08:32.760 --> 1:08:35.400 ninety one, and in that time she won the right 1:08:35.439 --> 1:08:38.920 to have Alisa every other weekend. But Gus and then 1:08:38.920 --> 1:08:41.240 Alisa's teachers said that she would come back from those 1:08:41.320 --> 1:08:44.720 visits covered in bruises and very upset. She would throw up, 1:08:45.120 --> 1:08:47.280 she would refuse to walk into a bathroom, and it 1:08:47.320 --> 1:08:48.640 was like obvious what was going on. 1:08:48.720 --> 1:08:50.719 It was only the weekends that she was with her mother. 1:08:51.320 --> 1:08:55.080 So Alisa even told a city social worker about these attacks, 1:08:55.120 --> 1:08:57.920 but the visits were still allowed to happen on the 1:08:57.960 --> 1:08:59.840 word of her mother saying that she did not hit 1:08:59.840 --> 1:09:03.479 her daughter. So then poor Gus checked into a hospital 1:09:03.520 --> 1:09:05.800 in May nineteen ninety four and he was diagnosed with 1:09:05.840 --> 1:09:10.240 cancer and soon after died. Yeah, this is like a 1:09:10.280 --> 1:09:15.800 fucking Cinderella nightmare. Hans Christiananzersen like story. Yeah, And so 1:09:15.880 --> 1:09:18.800 they sent Alisa to her mother, which is very, very 1:09:18.800 --> 1:09:21.720 fucked up. She at this point had five children, with 1:09:21.800 --> 1:09:24.600 no job and no partner because her husband went to 1:09:24.640 --> 1:09:27.599 prison for stabbing her seventeen times with a pocket knife. 1:09:28.280 --> 1:09:29.240 Oh my god. 1:09:29.640 --> 1:09:32.840 And everyone tried to counter this decision, like Gus's cousin, 1:09:32.880 --> 1:09:36.960 Elsa Connie Zadis, went to court seeking custody. The head 1:09:36.960 --> 1:09:40.320 of Elisa's school wrote to the family court judge Phoebe 1:09:40.400 --> 1:09:42.880 Greenbaum in support of the cousin to get custody and 1:09:42.920 --> 1:09:45.479 to attest to all the abuse. But the court and 1:09:45.520 --> 1:09:47.760 this dumb bitch just gave custody to the birth mother. 1:09:48.040 --> 1:09:50.519 And even Prince Michael got involved and was like, if 1:09:50.520 --> 1:09:53.120 you give her to the cousin, like, I will financially support. 1:09:53.240 --> 1:09:56.680 Like everyone was begging to take this daughter away from 1:09:56.720 --> 1:10:01.040 the mother and this fucking judge didn't. The judge in 1:10:01.080 --> 1:10:04.880 the case said that the child welfare people advised her 1:10:04.920 --> 1:10:09.200 to give custody to the mother, but Child Welfare CWA 1:10:09.400 --> 1:10:12.840 remained silent on the matter and cited confidentiality laws and 1:10:12.920 --> 1:10:16.840 refused to confirm or deny. But the judge said the 1:10:16.960 --> 1:10:20.080 child welfare advised her to give custody to the mother. 1:10:20.320 --> 1:10:21.360 So pretty horrific. 1:10:22.280 --> 1:10:25.240 Now, a little background, So, like, these confidentiality laws are 1:10:25.360 --> 1:10:29.160 very controversial and complicated. They are there to help protect 1:10:29.160 --> 1:10:32.519 people who report child abuse. They're also there to protect 1:10:32.520 --> 1:10:36.640 those accused unfairly and privacy of the victims. But mostly 1:10:37.000 --> 1:10:40.600 these laws seem to be to protect the government agencies 1:10:40.800 --> 1:10:44.800 over everything. The New York Times had a quote that said, 1:10:44.880 --> 1:10:48.800 too often the confidentiality shield is used by the bureaucracy 1:10:48.840 --> 1:10:51.760 to sort of cover itself, and that was said by 1:10:51.800 --> 1:10:56.320 the former City hr commissioner from the nineteen eighties, William J. 1:10:56.720 --> 1:10:57.400 Grinker. 1:10:57.800 --> 1:11:00.519 He believes that once a child dies, the need for 1:11:00.600 --> 1:11:04.280 confidentiality is no longer paramount, and if you know what 1:11:04.400 --> 1:11:08.080 went wrong, then you can prevent other deaths. But we'll 1:11:08.080 --> 1:11:11.160 get more into the laws and what happened after Elisa's death. 1:11:11.280 --> 1:11:15.559 But Alisa's decline began immediately after she went into her 1:11:15.640 --> 1:11:19.200 mother's custody. The mom pulled her out of Montessori school 1:11:19.680 --> 1:11:22.400 and enrolled her at the local public school PS one 1:11:22.520 --> 1:11:26.960 twenty six. That school called state and city child welfare 1:11:27.000 --> 1:11:30.720 offices after being concerned with her because she was like 1:11:30.880 --> 1:11:36.400 walking unevenly and she refused to play with people or 1:11:36.439 --> 1:11:38.600 to talk to other students, and then a bunch of 1:11:38.640 --> 1:11:39.720 bruises were showing up. 1:11:39.800 --> 1:11:41.639 So this school also. 1:11:41.560 --> 1:11:45.040 Called child welfare and the city and state level to 1:11:45.120 --> 1:11:49.839 communicate their concern. This was the fifth time someone reported 1:11:49.960 --> 1:11:53.840 that Alisa had been abused. The state refused to investigate 1:11:53.880 --> 1:11:58.320 because there wasn't enough evidence. So then Lopez actually withdrew 1:11:58.320 --> 1:12:02.120 Alisa fully from school and she virtually disappeared. She never 1:12:02.240 --> 1:12:04.960 enrolled her in another school, rarely let her out of 1:12:04.960 --> 1:12:07.679 her room. She wasn't allowed to watch TV or eat 1:12:07.680 --> 1:12:10.519 with her half siblings, who all showed no signs of abuse. 1:12:10.960 --> 1:12:13.680 So very very close to Nix, Maury Brown like. 1:12:13.680 --> 1:12:16.160 I don't know what, Like I really want to do 1:12:16.200 --> 1:12:20.599 an in depth sort of psychological reading something if anyone 1:12:20.600 --> 1:12:22.280 can reach out to us and tell us, like what 1:12:22.600 --> 1:12:25.120 is this that someone picks like one child and the 1:12:25.160 --> 1:12:27.000 rest are fine. 1:12:27.040 --> 1:12:30.479 I wonder if it was like she just hated like 1:12:30.600 --> 1:12:33.759 the how the dad like gave her such a good life, 1:12:33.800 --> 1:12:36.320 you know, it's like or you know what I mean, like, oh, 1:12:36.320 --> 1:12:38.760 you're in Montessori school, Like you're out of there now, 1:12:38.840 --> 1:12:41.040 you know. Like I don't know. Maybe it was just 1:12:41.080 --> 1:12:42.640 like because she had had like a nice life with 1:12:42.680 --> 1:12:44.960 her dad and she was resented her or something. 1:12:45.000 --> 1:12:45.439 I don't know. 1:12:45.720 --> 1:12:47.080 Yeah, oh this. 1:12:46.960 --> 1:12:49.400 Is hard, but it's also happened, you know in another 1:12:49.439 --> 1:12:53.800 case we covered, So it must happen, Like there must 1:12:53.840 --> 1:12:56.360 be a real not a reason, but some sort of 1:12:56.720 --> 1:13:01.599 something psychological explanation. Yeah, like outside it so she would 1:13:01.640 --> 1:13:04.840 have to go to the bathroom in her bed and 1:13:05.080 --> 1:13:07.240 or in a pot in her room, and it overflowed 1:13:07.320 --> 1:13:09.479 so much that it leaked into the apartment below. 1:13:10.439 --> 1:13:11.519 If you can imagine that. 1:13:13.040 --> 1:13:16.760 Neighbors confessed that they had frequently heard screams coming from 1:13:16.800 --> 1:13:20.040 the apartment, and a few neighbors said they called child 1:13:20.120 --> 1:13:24.719 welfare authorities but nothing happened, So now more people are calling. 1:13:25.600 --> 1:13:29.960 So finally, on November twenty second, this bitch the mom 1:13:30.360 --> 1:13:35.479 was taken into custody and Alisa Esquerdo died on November 1:13:35.520 --> 1:13:37.439 twenty second, nineteen ninety five, of. 1:13:37.400 --> 1:13:39.120 A brain hemorrhage. 1:13:39.439 --> 1:13:42.120 The mom was like screaming in the street that she 1:13:42.200 --> 1:13:45.559 didn't do it, but basically she finally admitted that on 1:13:45.600 --> 1:13:48.400 November twentieth, she hit Alisa so hard that she flew 1:13:48.439 --> 1:13:51.479 headfirst into a concrete wall, and then after she didn't 1:13:51.479 --> 1:13:52.640 walk or talk after. 1:13:52.400 --> 1:13:54.240 That, and then the mom. 1:13:54.120 --> 1:13:56.840 Waited two full days before asking a neighbor to call 1:13:56.880 --> 1:14:02.160 for help. Police say she's shown little emotion since you know, 1:14:02.800 --> 1:14:05.439 like making these statements, she truly has shown no emotion. 1:14:06.400 --> 1:14:09.439 She thought that Alisa was possessed by the devil and 1:14:09.479 --> 1:14:12.759 that her evil caused her death, so she told friends 1:14:12.760 --> 1:14:15.280 that she would put snakes down her throat to exercise 1:14:15.400 --> 1:14:18.759 the demons, and she would hold her upside down using 1:14:18.800 --> 1:14:21.599 her as a mop like it is so fucked up, 1:14:22.160 --> 1:14:24.959 and then this is like very connected to the episode. 1:14:24.960 --> 1:14:27.120 Two of her step siblings told the grand jury that 1:14:27.160 --> 1:14:30.839 the genital abrasions were caused by a hairbrush, which Lopez 1:14:30.920 --> 1:14:34.920 used to torture her. Her five siblings were placed in 1:14:35.000 --> 1:14:38.639 foster homes. Some ended up being adopted into a family, 1:14:38.760 --> 1:14:41.640 others placed in home after home, and the oldest went 1:14:41.720 --> 1:14:44.240 to live with his biological father, who was not involved 1:14:44.240 --> 1:14:47.799 in Alisa's life or death at all. And a Wheelda 1:14:48.200 --> 1:14:50.759 was charged with second degree murder and she pled guilty 1:14:50.760 --> 1:14:54.160 on June twenty fifth, nineteen ninety six. She pled guilty 1:14:54.200 --> 1:14:56.439 to get the deal of serving fifteen years and then 1:14:56.520 --> 1:14:59.519 to become eligible for parole after that, but the following 1:14:59.560 --> 1:15:03.280 month went nevermind, bitch, you're sentenced to life. So she 1:15:03.400 --> 1:15:06.479 was sentenced to a life imprisonment. She was most recently 1:15:06.520 --> 1:15:10.040 denied parole in January twenty twenty two, and her next 1:15:10.040 --> 1:15:13.080 parole hearing is to be held in September of twenty 1:15:13.120 --> 1:15:13.639 twenty two. 1:15:14.560 --> 1:15:16.479 Hopefully no one ever lets her. 1:15:16.360 --> 1:15:18.519 Be released, but if it comes to it, maybe we'll 1:15:18.680 --> 1:15:21.320 write some letters to the board closer to them. 1:15:21.360 --> 1:15:23.559 I'm also like a little bit surprised that she didn't 1:15:23.640 --> 1:15:27.320 do like in insanity defense, right, Like you thought that 1:15:27.400 --> 1:15:29.240 your daughter was possessed by the devil and you put 1:15:29.280 --> 1:15:31.280 snakes down her throat, Like that seems like you're not 1:15:31.320 --> 1:15:34.240 mentally well. 1:15:33.240 --> 1:15:34.439 Yeah, I have no idea. 1:15:34.479 --> 1:15:37.000 I mean, I've read somewhere, but like I couldn't really 1:15:38.320 --> 1:15:41.800 because I read that they wanted to really do a 1:15:41.880 --> 1:15:45.320 deal because they didn't want to put the other siblings 1:15:45.400 --> 1:15:48.559 through testimony and through a trial. But then some of 1:15:48.600 --> 1:15:51.160 the siblings were quoted at the grand jury, so I'm 1:15:51.160 --> 1:15:52.640 not really sure what it was. 1:15:52.680 --> 1:15:56.160 That's why I didn't leave it in. But like that's 1:15:56.200 --> 1:15:57.480 why the deal. 1:15:57.320 --> 1:16:00.479 Kind of happened. They wanted to seah the other kids. 1:16:01.720 --> 1:16:04.519 So also after she plaed guilty in all of that trial. 1:16:04.600 --> 1:16:09.040 In nineteen ninety six, Governor George E. Pataki he signed 1:16:09.120 --> 1:16:14.000 legislation that loosens the laws requiring secrecy in child abuse investigations, 1:16:14.400 --> 1:16:16.479 and this was a direct response from the death of 1:16:16.479 --> 1:16:21.040 Alisa is Querto. One part would require authorities to disclose 1:16:21.040 --> 1:16:24.760 information when a person is charged with child abuse and 1:16:25.080 --> 1:16:28.800 when an abused child dies. Thus seeks to make investigators 1:16:28.880 --> 1:16:32.280 more accountable for their mistakes and then the new law 1:16:32.360 --> 1:16:35.839 also called for eliminating a statute that requires the destruction 1:16:35.960 --> 1:16:39.320 of records when an allegation of abuse is investigated but 1:16:39.439 --> 1:16:40.640 not substantiated. 1:16:41.360 --> 1:16:42.759 So basically there's two. 1:16:42.560 --> 1:16:45.680 Types of categories for abuse cases. One is proven and 1:16:45.720 --> 1:16:49.080 the other is unfounded. And if it's unfounded, they were 1:16:49.120 --> 1:16:53.040 able to destroy the records, but that prevented future caseworkers 1:16:53.080 --> 1:16:55.960 from knowing about previous allegations involving a child. 1:16:56.960 --> 1:16:58.200 So that's fucked up. 1:16:58.240 --> 1:17:01.720 So now even if something is like unfounded or not substantiated, 1:17:01.800 --> 1:17:04.120 it stays in the records. And now the records must 1:17:04.120 --> 1:17:06.400 be preserved for up to ten years after the child's 1:17:06.479 --> 1:17:10.000 nineteenth birthday, with access to those records available only to 1:17:10.120 --> 1:17:12.960 child welfare workers to help establish a pattern of abuse. 1:17:13.600 --> 1:17:15.719 My god, And you know you would think when things 1:17:15.760 --> 1:17:18.960 like this happen, you would feel guilty and want to 1:17:18.960 --> 1:17:21.000 make changes within the system. But a bunch of the 1:17:21.080 --> 1:17:24.120 child welfare experts and civil liberties people were so mad 1:17:24.280 --> 1:17:26.559 and said that it violated privacy of people who are 1:17:26.600 --> 1:17:27.520 falsely accused. 1:17:27.640 --> 1:17:29.000 I say, shut your fucking mouth. 1:17:29.960 --> 1:17:33.519 Some child welfare caseworkers staged a whole protest at city 1:17:33.560 --> 1:17:37.080 Hall and in the article from The New York Times. 1:17:36.840 --> 1:17:37.920 In nineteen ninety six. 1:17:38.439 --> 1:17:41.400 Some of the signs said case workers don't murder children, 1:17:41.479 --> 1:17:42.400 politicians do. 1:17:43.080 --> 1:17:44.320 And it's like, I don't know, bitch. 1:17:44.360 --> 1:17:49.240 It seems like over you know the cut, like people, schools, diploma, 1:17:49.320 --> 1:17:52.320 the Prince, people were complaining to you and you did nothing. 1:17:52.920 --> 1:17:56.839 So like, obviously politicians and money and shit are involved, 1:17:56.840 --> 1:17:58.080 but it's like, so are you. 1:17:59.760 --> 1:18:04.559 I just like can't see in what world a judge 1:18:04.640 --> 1:18:06.840 thinks that when there's a cousin willing to take like 1:18:06.880 --> 1:18:08.479 because I know that they try to place you with 1:18:08.560 --> 1:18:10.920 family when there's a cousin willing to take her, and 1:18:10.960 --> 1:18:12.960 you're like, no, I'm gonna put her with five other 1:18:13.080 --> 1:18:16.599 children and a woman who doesn't work and has had 1:18:16.800 --> 1:18:21.400 a history of drug abuse. It's just so I don't know, Yeah. 1:18:21.200 --> 1:18:23.200 We we should find out if that judge is still 1:18:23.280 --> 1:18:26.320 working or what the fuck happens to her, what dumbass 1:18:26.320 --> 1:18:29.960 shit she's still doing to this day, because horrific and 1:18:30.000 --> 1:18:33.280 I hope this haunts her every waking moment of her life. 1:18:34.120 --> 1:18:37.360 And some of the people that were at this protest said, 1:18:38.360 --> 1:18:41.479 we're being framed as incompetent child killers and it's like, 1:18:41.560 --> 1:18:43.720 but children are dead, so who cares what people think 1:18:43.760 --> 1:18:46.720 about you, Like, it doesn't matter if your feelings are 1:18:46.800 --> 1:18:49.400 hurt and you have a bad reputation. Children are dying 1:18:49.400 --> 1:18:50.960 and you're supposed to be taking care of them and 1:18:51.000 --> 1:18:54.080 you're not. And obviously I agree, like they should be 1:18:54.200 --> 1:18:56.480 treated better paid more like given. 1:18:56.840 --> 1:19:01.720 This should be a well paying job, but it is not. 1:19:02.000 --> 1:19:07.800 And so you know, fast forward in twenty twelve, the 1:19:07.880 --> 1:19:11.360 Office of Children and Family Services. They this whole time 1:19:11.400 --> 1:19:14.639 have been quietly working to limit access to case reports, 1:19:15.080 --> 1:19:16.920 and in two thousand and seven even tried to get 1:19:16.920 --> 1:19:19.960 the law changed. And it's like, why wouldn't you do 1:19:20.000 --> 1:19:23.320 the work, like instead of working so hard to like 1:19:23.400 --> 1:19:26.040 hide all these records for your incompetence, Why don't you 1:19:26.080 --> 1:19:29.599 work this hard in protecting children. It doesn't make sense 1:19:29.640 --> 1:19:32.080 to me, but they did it in two thousand and eight, 1:19:32.080 --> 1:19:34.800 make a new policy that if there are living siblings 1:19:34.880 --> 1:19:37.320 or other children in the home, even if there is 1:19:37.320 --> 1:19:40.439 a fatality report, that is not in the best interest 1:19:40.600 --> 1:19:44.479 to release because for the siblings. But the fatality reports 1:19:44.520 --> 1:19:47.800 do not release names of deceased children or their caseworkers 1:19:47.960 --> 1:19:50.320 or anybody by name. They just have a list of 1:19:50.400 --> 1:19:54.240 every complaint of abuse or neglect involving the child, so 1:19:54.439 --> 1:19:57.840 the child welfare agency's response to complaints, and an assessment 1:19:58.000 --> 1:20:01.719 of where the response was adequate, so no one's names 1:20:01.720 --> 1:20:04.960 would even ever be released to anybody, You know what 1:20:04.960 --> 1:20:05.280 I mean. 1:20:05.360 --> 1:20:06.679 I don't understand why they're. 1:20:06.560 --> 1:20:09.679 Working so hard for like quote unquote these like fake 1:20:09.760 --> 1:20:13.920 privacy things like The New York Times had an article 1:20:13.920 --> 1:20:18.160 one year later, like after her death, about how traumatized 1:20:18.240 --> 1:20:21.559 New York was and creating an overpowering desire to find 1:20:21.600 --> 1:20:24.760 meaning in a senseless tragedy and to find ways to 1:20:24.840 --> 1:20:28.400 save all the Lisas of the future. But they don't, 1:20:28.600 --> 1:20:31.200 you know, they fucking don't, And we we think like 1:20:31.240 --> 1:20:34.519 the Internet and Twitter and twenty four news, like news 1:20:34.560 --> 1:20:37.479 coverage has made us this quick to forget news and 1:20:37.560 --> 1:20:39.840 move on. But it seems like it's always kind of 1:20:39.920 --> 1:20:43.599 been a part of humanity where something happens, we're distraught, 1:20:43.600 --> 1:20:45.360 and then we forget about it. Because we covered the 1:20:45.439 --> 1:20:48.920 Nicks Marie Brown death that happened in a very eerily 1:20:49.000 --> 1:20:51.720 similar way in two thousand and six, and then the 1:20:52.280 --> 1:20:55.839 outrage subsides, and in nineteen eighty seven, a girl Lisa 1:20:55.880 --> 1:21:00.240 Steinberg died at the hands of her adoptive's father, Joel Steinberg, 1:21:00.800 --> 1:21:03.519 and the city devoted a lot of resources and commitment 1:21:03.560 --> 1:21:06.519 to training and changing the program, but eventual budget cuts 1:21:06.560 --> 1:21:09.360 are always made, and it seems like every ten years 1:21:09.400 --> 1:21:13.840 New York has just like horrific, horrific deaths that are 1:21:14.160 --> 1:21:18.960 like fully attached but have been incompetence of these agencies 1:21:21.080 --> 1:21:23.960 and caseworker jobs have a turnover rate of forty nine 1:21:24.000 --> 1:21:24.760 percent a year. 1:21:26.240 --> 1:21:29.120 Yeah. So no, like half the people working don't even 1:21:29.160 --> 1:21:33.439 have experience. Yeah, so this is like just like it's 1:21:33.479 --> 1:21:36.599 a fucked system. No, it's a fucked system, and it's depressing, 1:21:36.640 --> 1:21:38.400 and I mean, honestly, to bring it back to like 1:21:38.400 --> 1:21:40.720 what's going on right now, like we're going to just 1:21:40.760 --> 1:21:42.960 see more of this when you don't allow people to 1:21:42.960 --> 1:21:45.520 have reproductive rights, you know what I mean, Like the 1:21:45.520 --> 1:21:48.080 there's not systems to protect the children that we have 1:21:48.280 --> 1:21:50.800 alive in this country, you know what I mean. And 1:21:50.840 --> 1:21:52.880 now it's like, oh, let's just force people with no 1:21:53.040 --> 1:21:56.759 resources to have more and then we'll see what happens 1:21:57.000 --> 1:22:01.679 when these agencies that are already strapped and overworked are 1:22:02.160 --> 1:22:06.600 like truly pushed to breaking point, you know. Yeah, so 1:22:06.720 --> 1:22:09.280 it's uh, but this is horrible. This is like these 1:22:09.320 --> 1:22:11.639 cases are really so fucking hard to hear about. And 1:22:12.840 --> 1:22:15.360 oh and it's like I wish her dad hadn't died. 1:22:15.439 --> 1:22:16.040 Oh my god. 1:22:16.920 --> 1:22:19.679 Yeah, and it's just like the prolonged abuse of it all, 1:22:20.240 --> 1:22:23.639 like that so many people tried to help her, and 1:22:23.800 --> 1:22:28.600 like you can't deny the system failed her, like obviously 1:22:28.640 --> 1:22:29.799 it's the mother's faults. 1:22:29.960 --> 1:22:33.559 She is in prison, yes, but like right, there's checks 1:22:33.560 --> 1:22:35.880 and balances for a reason, and none of them worked 1:22:35.960 --> 1:22:36.960 this time. Yeah. 1:22:37.160 --> 1:22:42.120 Yeah, So well we have, you know, a cool guess. 1:22:42.520 --> 1:22:44.880 Yeah. As always, we're gonna cleanse your palate with a 1:22:44.920 --> 1:22:55.760 fun convo. So stay right where you are, guys. Our 1:22:55.800 --> 1:22:58.960 guest today is a very talented actor who you've probably 1:22:59.000 --> 1:23:02.000 caught in men a TV show. He's been in everything 1:23:02.080 --> 1:23:05.280 from the New Magnum p I. He's had a spot 1:23:05.320 --> 1:23:08.080 on Law and Order Organized crime, and he was in 1:23:08.120 --> 1:23:11.000 a personal favorite of mine, Bosh. Maybe you've heard of it, 1:23:11.439 --> 1:23:15.120 but you know him from today's episode as Denny Correa. Guys, 1:23:15.400 --> 1:23:19.800 enjoy our chat with the very talented Yancey Arius. 1:23:20.200 --> 1:23:25.160 Before we get into sview your career how cute coaching 1:23:25.200 --> 1:23:25.800 Little League? 1:23:25.840 --> 1:23:26.320 Do you love it? 1:23:26.680 --> 1:23:28.080 I love it, absolutely love it. 1:23:28.080 --> 1:23:31.000 It's you know, it's weird because this year started off 1:23:31.120 --> 1:23:34.799 kind of slow. I mean, I've been auditioning through Zoom 1:23:34.920 --> 1:23:35.479 quite a bit. 1:23:36.160 --> 1:23:37.080 I'm up for a couple of things. 1:23:37.080 --> 1:23:39.479 Hopefully they work out, but you know, right now, I'm 1:23:39.560 --> 1:23:42.400 very focused on seeing the growth of my son in 1:23:42.960 --> 1:23:47.040 team sports and baseball particularly, and all of his teammates. 1:23:47.040 --> 1:23:50.200 They're all just wonderful kids, the great families, and I'm 1:23:50.200 --> 1:23:54.120 having a great time sharing through all of my life experience, 1:23:54.200 --> 1:23:55.960 also playing baseball since I was a kid. 1:23:56.160 --> 1:23:59.120 That's great. So, but you live in LA now, but 1:23:59.200 --> 1:24:00.680 you were born and raised in New. 1:24:00.680 --> 1:24:01.840 York, right, raised in New York. 1:24:01.880 --> 1:24:03.559 It was It's so funny because this morning I had 1:24:03.600 --> 1:24:07.479 a conversation with a with a NYPD captain who's actually retiring. 1:24:07.520 --> 1:24:10.640 He's a friend of mine and a mutual friends with 1:24:10.720 --> 1:24:12.559 another military friend of mine. 1:24:12.560 --> 1:24:13.840 I play a lot of cops. 1:24:13.880 --> 1:24:16.920 I play a lot of military, so especially in these 1:24:17.000 --> 1:24:20.640 last ten years, and it's just been like, you know, 1:24:21.240 --> 1:24:24.360 I've befriended some very wonderful people who actually, you know, 1:24:24.479 --> 1:24:27.240 do great work and really care about the community, and 1:24:27.320 --> 1:24:29.360 so I vibe with them, you know, to help me, 1:24:29.520 --> 1:24:32.400 you know, you know, be as authentic as I possibly 1:24:32.439 --> 1:24:34.479 can for any role that they asked me to play. 1:24:35.520 --> 1:24:40.400 And so he coincidentally is from the Lower East Side, 1:24:40.439 --> 1:24:42.960 like where I was born from. You know, just one 1:24:43.000 --> 1:24:46.200 conversation catching up, you know, with someone like that, you 1:24:46.240 --> 1:24:48.640 know how it brings you back to the city and 1:24:48.720 --> 1:24:51.360 everything that it was and what it is now. It's 1:24:52.000 --> 1:24:58.000 incredibly different from the seventies and eighties. So it's just, yeah, 1:24:58.120 --> 1:25:01.280 I mean so much nostalgia, you know, come, you know, 1:25:01.640 --> 1:25:03.640 waves of that just keeps coming over me when I 1:25:04.240 --> 1:25:06.519 think about New York and how much I miss it 1:25:06.560 --> 1:25:08.760 and how different it is now, and you know, and 1:25:08.840 --> 1:25:11.000 being in Los Angeles now twenty years, I guess I'm 1:25:11.040 --> 1:25:13.800 kind of like an Angelino by default now, you know. 1:25:13.880 --> 1:25:16.240 But New York is always in my heart. 1:25:17.040 --> 1:25:19.160 Yeah, no, we feel the same. We both live in 1:25:19.280 --> 1:25:21.639 LA but are and former New Yorkers and we miss 1:25:21.680 --> 1:25:22.120 it a lot. 1:25:22.320 --> 1:25:25.160 Do you always do so much research with your characters 1:25:25.160 --> 1:25:30.040 and like talking to like different law enforcement. Kara is 1:25:30.080 --> 1:25:32.280 a big bosh head, so you know you are the 1:25:32.320 --> 1:25:36.879 mayor y yes, sure, yeah, what's your research? 1:25:37.000 --> 1:25:40.719 Always always a characters always always, I mean, ever since, 1:25:42.040 --> 1:25:44.559 ever since I was fourteen. One of my first coaches, 1:25:44.960 --> 1:25:48.200 Jack Romano, he was God bless his soul. He was 1:25:48.240 --> 1:25:52.320 the head of the acting department at a place called Stage. 1:25:52.000 --> 1:25:52.800 Door Manor. 1:25:54.040 --> 1:25:57.599 People like Natalie Portmant went there and Josh Charles and 1:25:59.439 --> 1:26:02.920 I went there with Josh, and he was amazing, and 1:26:02.960 --> 1:26:04.960 he taught us right at the get go the huge 1:26:05.000 --> 1:26:10.040 responsibility that we have as actors to play the roles 1:26:10.720 --> 1:26:14.600 as authentic and as informed as possible. And you know, 1:26:14.640 --> 1:26:18.040 he's talking to teenagers, you know, and teenagers have such 1:26:18.040 --> 1:26:21.600 a short attention span. But I knew since twelve that 1:26:21.680 --> 1:26:23.040 this was what I was going to do for the 1:26:23.120 --> 1:26:26.760 rest of my life. I grew up growing up in 1:26:26.760 --> 1:26:29.880 New York having so much diversity, having been disposed to 1:26:29.920 --> 1:26:33.800 so many different experiences in life. You know, there was 1:26:34.120 --> 1:26:35.559 there was always a sense of service. And I had 1:26:35.560 --> 1:26:38.160 a lot of women in my family. My grandmother helped 1:26:38.160 --> 1:26:39.599 a lot of people on the Lower East Side get 1:26:39.640 --> 1:26:42.840 their paperwork, you know, to be citizens, and she was 1:26:42.920 --> 1:26:45.680 like the matriarch of the neighborhood and everybody came to her. 1:26:45.760 --> 1:26:47.679 So I met so many wonderful people, and I saw 1:26:48.000 --> 1:26:50.680 so much service coming out of her apartment, you know 1:26:50.800 --> 1:26:52.720 that I was like, well, what can I do of 1:26:52.760 --> 1:26:53.719 service for people? 1:26:53.760 --> 1:26:53.960 You know? 1:26:54.040 --> 1:26:57.799 And it turned out that she threw me on stage 1:26:58.360 --> 1:27:00.840 with the blessings of my mom to sing at this 1:27:01.400 --> 1:27:07.479 you know menudo contest. It was a lip syncing composition, 1:27:07.520 --> 1:27:09.800 but I was the only one who sang during the 1:27:09.840 --> 1:27:14.240 break and whereas people were getting up, they realized I 1:27:14.280 --> 1:27:16.240 was singing, and they all sat down before they went 1:27:16.280 --> 1:27:19.120 to the concession stand, and they followed along and they started, 1:27:19.600 --> 1:27:22.960 you know, getting into the song, and I, uh, I 1:27:23.120 --> 1:27:26.080 felt that connection for the very first time where I was, 1:27:26.600 --> 1:27:29.439 you know, giving people something to listen to and just 1:27:29.479 --> 1:27:32.479 to enjoy for a minute. From there, I you know, 1:27:32.560 --> 1:27:35.439 my family realized I had something and they nurtured it 1:27:35.479 --> 1:27:37.639 and they helped me meet the right people like Jack Romono, 1:27:37.760 --> 1:27:41.000 James Green, and I went to Carnegie Mellon and continue 1:27:41.040 --> 1:27:45.320 my college education and there Miss Saigon continue my education. 1:27:45.439 --> 1:27:49.000 There met Alan Savage and at Miss Saigon on Broadway 1:27:49.160 --> 1:27:51.719 and he was my coach for the rest of my life. 1:27:51.760 --> 1:27:56.320 And just these people. To answer your question, yes, lots 1:27:56.320 --> 1:28:00.960 of research. I just gave you the whole on how 1:28:01.000 --> 1:28:04.559 I got there. But yes, no, and there's a there's 1:28:04.600 --> 1:28:06.120 a big thing I like to share with any of 1:28:06.120 --> 1:28:09.920 my fellow actors or anything that I do, is basically, 1:28:10.080 --> 1:28:13.040 you know, we have a huge responsibility for for any 1:28:13.080 --> 1:28:16.200 soul that we take on because people, we're mirrors for everyone. 1:28:16.320 --> 1:28:19.320 So you know, if if we're blessed to do a 1:28:19.360 --> 1:28:22.040 story that is based on truth or is truth or 1:28:22.080 --> 1:28:24.320 if you can find the truth in any story, you 1:28:24.360 --> 1:28:26.280 got to know that there are people out there that 1:28:26.280 --> 1:28:28.519 that actually relate with that story that you're going to 1:28:28.560 --> 1:28:29.000 be seen in. 1:28:30.200 --> 1:28:33.200 Well, you mentioned Miss Saigon, and we obviously did a 1:28:33.240 --> 1:28:36.840 little research. You did that show for five years. At 1:28:36.880 --> 1:28:38.000 a certain point. 1:28:37.840 --> 1:28:41.320 Is it like, like, how do you keep it going 1:28:41.560 --> 1:28:42.880 for five years? 1:28:43.320 --> 1:28:47.280 I remember sitting my very first I had to before 1:28:47.280 --> 1:28:49.680 starting rehearsals. I had to watch the show and I 1:28:49.720 --> 1:28:52.200 sat and watched the show and I couldn't stop crying. 1:28:52.240 --> 1:28:54.880 There wasn't a minute that I wasn't crying throughout the 1:28:54.920 --> 1:28:59.120 whole two hours, just in appreciation, you know. So I 1:28:59.160 --> 1:29:03.439 started first the first year as an understudy, and I 1:29:04.120 --> 1:29:06.639 and I followed and with the intent they had hired 1:29:06.680 --> 1:29:09.600 me with the intention to possibly take over for the 1:29:09.680 --> 1:29:12.759 role that I did was Tweet because at that point 1:29:12.920 --> 1:29:15.800 they weren't sure if the actor who was playing Tweet 1:29:15.840 --> 1:29:20.080 was going to continue with the with the show, and 1:29:20.360 --> 1:29:24.200 so I understudied a couple of times. They loved what 1:29:24.240 --> 1:29:26.400 I did, and of course I poured my heart into 1:29:26.400 --> 1:29:28.760 that role. They saw it, they got it. And then 1:29:28.760 --> 1:29:30.880 when he was ready to leave by the second year, 1:29:31.439 --> 1:29:34.000 then I took over the role for the next three years. 1:29:34.520 --> 1:29:38.639 And so, you know, and in the interim, which brings 1:29:38.760 --> 1:29:42.200 us to why we're even having this, you know, fun conversation. 1:29:44.439 --> 1:29:46.760 I got to do a lot of great New York 1:29:46.800 --> 1:29:49.799 shows like Law and Order, Special Victims Unit, Law and Order, 1:29:50.200 --> 1:29:53.400 then the ny p D Blue and New York Undercover 1:29:53.560 --> 1:29:56.840 at the time, and One Life to Live. I mean, 1:29:56.880 --> 1:29:59.200 I was recurring on all of these shows, and so 1:29:59.280 --> 1:30:02.240 I really didn't have have a chance to to ever 1:30:02.479 --> 1:30:05.600 you know, feel like you know, something was over. You know, 1:30:06.760 --> 1:30:09.360 I never got bored for any reason whatsoever. I was 1:30:09.400 --> 1:30:12.160 living a young guy's life, you know, in this in 1:30:12.200 --> 1:30:15.599 this experience in theater and television film. So yeah, so 1:30:15.640 --> 1:30:19.559 I had a great time basically getting up at six 1:30:19.640 --> 1:30:21.960 in the morning, get to set at seven, you know, 1:30:22.120 --> 1:30:24.920 shoot till four o'clocks five o'clock at about an hour 1:30:25.000 --> 1:30:27.160 or two hour butt break and then get my butt 1:30:27.200 --> 1:30:29.559 to the theater and rock and roll with their you know, there. 1:30:29.600 --> 1:30:31.439 Was like, yeah, that's a young man. 1:30:32.080 --> 1:30:35.160 Yeah, no, I got two kids and I can't even 1:30:35.200 --> 1:30:39.280 imagine that right now. Times they are my new show 1:30:39.400 --> 1:30:39.720 right now. 1:30:39.840 --> 1:30:41.719 Yeah, greatest production of my life. 1:30:42.439 --> 1:30:44.760 Yeah, because I saw like on your IMDb in like 1:30:44.840 --> 1:30:47.559 ninety eight you did Law and Order Original and then 1:30:47.600 --> 1:30:50.559 you did Sopranos in ninety nine, and it's like in 1:30:50.720 --> 1:30:53.040 SVU in two thousand and I was like, this feels 1:30:53.080 --> 1:30:54.600 like that might have been the time period where you 1:30:54.640 --> 1:30:56.960 were like, Okay, I'm blowing up. Like was that like 1:30:57.000 --> 1:30:59.160 when you were like things are happening for me or what? 1:30:59.400 --> 1:30:59.599 Well? 1:30:59.640 --> 1:31:02.880 It was a very interesting thing because I left in 1:31:02.920 --> 1:31:08.160 two thousand and six from from Miss Saigon. But then 1:31:08.200 --> 1:31:11.920 I came back in two thousand and nine when Leaslanga 1:31:11.960 --> 1:31:14.920 came back in a couple of other originals and they 1:31:14.960 --> 1:31:16.800 and they wanted me to come back and join them, 1:31:16.800 --> 1:31:20.120 and I said, yeah, let's go. And so when I 1:31:20.240 --> 1:31:24.200 came back, I had a great time. THEO was awesome. 1:31:24.560 --> 1:31:27.479 You know, she's the original Miss Saigon on Broadway, and 1:31:28.439 --> 1:31:31.000 I got the offer for The Wild Party. I workshopped 1:31:31.320 --> 1:31:32.920 while I was doing Miss Saigon. 1:31:33.000 --> 1:31:33.400 I worked. 1:31:33.600 --> 1:31:37.360 I workshopped The Wild Party with Maddy Patinkin Earth a Kid, 1:31:37.439 --> 1:31:43.080 God bless her soul, Tony Collette and what pivot. The 1:31:43.120 --> 1:31:46.360 pivotal moment was right before opening night when two of 1:31:46.360 --> 1:31:49.360 my songs got cut and I was just like, you know, 1:31:49.400 --> 1:31:51.680 that probably wouldn't happen if if I had, you know, 1:31:51.920 --> 1:31:54.519 just a little bit more you know, star power in 1:31:54.560 --> 1:31:57.400 this situation, you know, And so I had just have 1:31:57.479 --> 1:31:59.920 to go to La. And around that time, I said, 1:32:00.040 --> 1:32:03.360 I say Yla because about five of my friends who 1:32:03.360 --> 1:32:07.280 are New Yorkers they happened to be in LA in 1:32:07.360 --> 1:32:11.960 pilot season that particular year, and they all got on 1:32:12.000 --> 1:32:12.800 the movie. 1:32:12.560 --> 1:32:14.879 Traffic and oh yeah. 1:32:14.920 --> 1:32:17.559 And then I asked my agents, how how did I 1:32:17.600 --> 1:32:20.559 not even get to read for this? This is right 1:32:20.640 --> 1:32:22.559 up my alley, you know, And my agent was like, oh, 1:32:22.640 --> 1:32:25.240 and they were Paradigm at the time, and they're like, oh, 1:32:25.320 --> 1:32:27.160 I'm sorry. A lot of these people were in LA, 1:32:27.200 --> 1:32:29.559 and they really casted in LA because it took place 1:32:29.600 --> 1:32:30.960 in La and San Diego. 1:32:31.040 --> 1:32:32.160 Sister Et cetera, et cetera. 1:32:32.920 --> 1:32:34.400 So I was like, oh, man, I guess I gotta 1:32:34.439 --> 1:32:35.920 be in LA. 1:32:36.520 --> 1:32:39.519 Yeah. When you got when you got cast in Law 1:32:39.520 --> 1:32:41.120 and Order and then you got cast in SVU. I 1:32:41.120 --> 1:32:43.559 mean like we hear from a lot in New yorker, well, 1:32:43.560 --> 1:32:45.360 we hear from New York actors, but then especially if 1:32:45.360 --> 1:32:48.080 you're born and raised, was it like extra special to 1:32:48.120 --> 1:32:50.479 be like I'm in the Dick World universe now, like. 1:32:50.439 --> 1:32:53.360 The universe absolutely, And I just recently got a chance 1:32:53.400 --> 1:32:54.799 to go again on. 1:32:54.880 --> 1:32:57.920 I saw because I'm watching OC I saw you just 1:32:58.040 --> 1:33:01.360 in that Christmas episod so to o C Yeah. 1:33:01.439 --> 1:33:03.320 Yeah, yeah, So that was really cool that I came 1:33:03.360 --> 1:33:05.719 back to play like a Jersey cup because it was yeah, 1:33:05.800 --> 1:33:08.519 you know, in those three row I think I was 1:33:08.520 --> 1:33:09.720 was I a lawyer the first time? 1:33:09.760 --> 1:33:12.080 I don't remember what was the first think. 1:33:13.680 --> 1:33:16.840 Regular americand Lord Yeah, but the second one, I was 1:33:16.880 --> 1:33:19.639 a I was a dad trying to. 1:33:19.720 --> 1:33:21.599 Yeah, this is the one that we're covering today. 1:33:22.080 --> 1:33:26.440 Yeah, Denny Correa, Yeah, yeah, that was an interesting episode, 1:33:26.520 --> 1:33:30.000 and uh, you know it was that it was basically 1:33:30.080 --> 1:33:31.720 one of the marks of my career where like I'm 1:33:31.760 --> 1:33:34.200 always that guy that you did you know, like what 1:33:34.400 --> 1:33:36.680 they call it the red herring, like that that you 1:33:36.760 --> 1:33:38.720 think that they're you know, that they're the guy, but 1:33:38.760 --> 1:33:39.080 they're not. 1:33:39.320 --> 1:33:39.519 You know. 1:33:39.680 --> 1:33:43.160 So it's like because you know, for whatever reason, when 1:33:43.400 --> 1:33:45.720 in my work, they can see my edge, so they're like, oh, 1:33:45.760 --> 1:33:48.120 he's edgy, so we could easily be a suspect, but 1:33:48.160 --> 1:33:48.640 then he's not. 1:33:48.760 --> 1:33:50.360 And then yeah, yeah, you. 1:33:50.320 --> 1:33:52.680 Know, not only just edge, but with heart. I mean, 1:33:52.720 --> 1:33:55.160 this character is not black and white like good or bad. 1:33:55.240 --> 1:33:57.920 You know, it's like a very layered performance. 1:33:58.080 --> 1:33:59.960 Yeah, thank you for that, and that's that's my goal 1:34:00.120 --> 1:34:02.120 every time. It's like always showed that, you know, the 1:34:02.840 --> 1:34:07.080 diversity of the human being, you know, all the complexities 1:34:07.080 --> 1:34:10.840 of a person, you know. And yeah, so in that 1:34:10.880 --> 1:34:15.160 particular episode, I was very very honored to be in 1:34:15.200 --> 1:34:17.640 that because they gave me so much to do, and 1:34:18.200 --> 1:34:19.960 they allowed me to play and then allowed me to 1:34:20.000 --> 1:34:23.679 give them what I felt was appropriate for that character 1:34:23.840 --> 1:34:28.200 and for their show. And I remember using that particular 1:34:29.200 --> 1:34:32.639 one or two of those scenes for many years after 1:34:32.680 --> 1:34:35.519 that in my reel until I guess probably even two 1:34:35.560 --> 1:34:38.000 thousand and five maybe I started changing up my reel 1:34:38.040 --> 1:34:40.479 and putting other things. But you know, to update, but 1:34:40.520 --> 1:34:44.000 that was that particular episode got me a lot of work. 1:34:44.040 --> 1:34:46.320 Actually, oh, very good. 1:34:46.479 --> 1:34:48.560 I don't know if you know this, but on Hulu 1:34:48.720 --> 1:34:50.600 you were the thumbnail of the episode. 1:34:50.720 --> 1:34:54.200 Yes, you know, it's so funny, complete complete transparency. This 1:34:54.280 --> 1:34:57.559 morning I clicked on and I wanted to see the 1:34:57.640 --> 1:34:59.760 episode just to see if I could. I didn't get 1:34:59.760 --> 1:35:01.840 a chance because obviously I take care of my child 1:35:01.840 --> 1:35:05.400 and I'm not gonna let her watch, you know, as 1:35:05.479 --> 1:35:12.400 for you, So she was watching Pepa Pig by the way, Yeah, Teddy, why. 1:35:12.920 --> 1:35:13.400 This than that? 1:35:13.479 --> 1:35:16.599 You know, like Pap was brutal to her dad. Pap 1:35:16.720 --> 1:35:18.920 was brutal to her dad. We got to watch it 1:35:18.960 --> 1:35:20.160 with the kids watching Pepa. 1:35:20.360 --> 1:35:24.519 Totally, totally totally. So when I clicked on, I saw 1:35:24.760 --> 1:35:26.960 the thumbnail was my face. I was like, oh, that's cool. 1:35:27.360 --> 1:35:30.439 Yeah, you know, do you have any like specific memories. 1:35:30.479 --> 1:35:32.240 I mean, that show was like I know, it was 1:35:32.280 --> 1:35:36.320 like twenty years ago or more, but like that was, 1:35:36.439 --> 1:35:38.479 you know, just the beginning of the second season. I 1:35:38.479 --> 1:35:41.000 don't know if they had like fully hit their groove yet, 1:35:41.040 --> 1:35:42.680 but I think people knew that it was starting to 1:35:42.680 --> 1:35:45.519 become like popular, Like what was the vibe when you 1:35:45.560 --> 1:35:49.439 were on set, and any special memories of anybody that 1:35:49.479 --> 1:35:50.000 you can. 1:35:50.240 --> 1:35:52.719 For that, for that, I mean, you know, being even 1:35:52.800 --> 1:35:55.400 then in the Law and Order franchise, you know, that 1:35:55.600 --> 1:35:57.920 was like for all of us New York actors was 1:35:58.040 --> 1:36:00.679 like the apex, you know what I mean, Like we're there, 1:36:01.040 --> 1:36:03.360 We're in it, We're in the city shooting. You know, 1:36:03.680 --> 1:36:06.920 we got cameras rolling, you know, in our territory, in 1:36:06.960 --> 1:36:07.800 our neighborhood. 1:36:07.920 --> 1:36:08.680 You know that. That. 1:36:08.960 --> 1:36:11.719 Yeah, that's huge for a lot of New York, especially 1:36:11.720 --> 1:36:15.240 young New York actors. You know, that was our goal, 1:36:15.360 --> 1:36:18.040 Like our goal was to be on Broadway. Our goal 1:36:18.120 --> 1:36:19.320 was to be on Law and Order, you know what 1:36:19.400 --> 1:36:22.559 I mean, Like that's you know, so having it at 1:36:22.560 --> 1:36:25.439 that point, having done it twice was just you know, 1:36:26.120 --> 1:36:29.320 icing on the cake and beauty. So and to no surprise, 1:36:29.439 --> 1:36:32.439 everyone was really cool. The vibe was awesome. You know, 1:36:32.520 --> 1:36:34.200 New York was shooting for New York, you know what 1:36:34.240 --> 1:36:37.160 I mean. So people really knew what they were doing. 1:36:37.240 --> 1:36:39.680 And in terms of a well oiled machine, it was 1:36:39.760 --> 1:36:41.919 running the right way, the way it should be, especially 1:36:42.080 --> 1:36:46.200 under someone like Dick Wolf and but yeah, it was 1:36:46.320 --> 1:36:51.120 it was totally respectful and cool and and all the 1:36:51.120 --> 1:36:54.040 people were right on. And I remember Ice team was cool. 1:36:54.160 --> 1:36:56.800 He was just hanging out in his dressing dressing room 1:36:56.880 --> 1:36:59.120 as I passed by, and I was like, I was 1:36:59.120 --> 1:37:01.439 honored to meet him, as I listened to his music too, 1:37:01.439 --> 1:37:02.679 and I was just like yeah. 1:37:03.640 --> 1:37:04.920 I walked right back. 1:37:04.960 --> 1:37:07.360 And then when I after I did my thing, he 1:37:07.520 --> 1:37:10.120 was just like yeah, man, you know, like he was like, 1:37:10.200 --> 1:37:12.639 you know, giving me his state of approval by going yeah, man, 1:37:12.720 --> 1:37:13.000 you know. 1:37:13.560 --> 1:37:13.760 You know. 1:37:13.920 --> 1:37:17.120 So it was it was nice to to, you know, 1:37:17.200 --> 1:37:20.439 to get all those guys you know, behind you and whatnot. 1:37:20.560 --> 1:37:23.320 And I'm very supportive, very supportive, and uh. 1:37:23.960 --> 1:37:25.920 I have a technique that a lot of people use 1:37:26.240 --> 1:37:30.120 in my business where we use music to get us 1:37:30.120 --> 1:37:32.960 to certain places. So every character I play has a 1:37:33.000 --> 1:37:35.160 different kind of music that goes on, whether it be 1:37:35.240 --> 1:37:38.479 jazz or rock or rap or you know whatever, you know, 1:37:39.560 --> 1:37:43.600 Latin music, whatever music is specific to that character that 1:37:43.680 --> 1:37:46.120 they would have probably listened to in the kitchen when 1:37:46.120 --> 1:37:48.439 they were three years old to seven years old. That 1:37:48.560 --> 1:37:50.720 music is what I play for every character. So I 1:37:50.800 --> 1:37:53.200 find that music for every character. So I use that 1:37:53.520 --> 1:37:56.880 to help me prep before five minutes before they say Okay, 1:37:56.880 --> 1:37:59.000 we're ready for your you know your shots. Let's go, 1:37:59.479 --> 1:38:02.080 and I'm there, I'm already, you know. So so music 1:38:02.120 --> 1:38:03.559 is a huge part of my life as well. 1:38:03.640 --> 1:38:05.880 Do you remember what music this character listened to? 1:38:06.439 --> 1:38:10.000 Danny at the time, I can't remember exactly. 1:38:10.080 --> 1:38:11.640 Yeah, I was trying to think. I'm like, what's the 1:38:11.760 --> 1:38:15.280 vibe music for like a guy whose ex wife is 1:38:15.360 --> 1:38:18.160 crazy and he's trying to take away, yeah, but who 1:38:18.160 --> 1:38:20.760 also teaches dance, right, is trying to take away his 1:38:20.840 --> 1:38:23.479 daughter who's currently in a coma. What's the music? What's 1:38:23.520 --> 1:38:24.080 the well? 1:38:24.120 --> 1:38:24.639 At that time? 1:38:24.880 --> 1:38:27.479 Okay, so at that time, I was I was heavily 1:38:27.520 --> 1:38:30.600 into Mark Anthony. I love his music and I have 1:38:30.640 --> 1:38:32.840 a few times. I have mutual friends who are best 1:38:32.840 --> 1:38:36.360 friends with him. So that was the music that was playing, 1:38:36.680 --> 1:38:40.559 you know, for me. And there's a really great song 1:38:41.000 --> 1:38:44.559 about betrayal, and that was a song I was playing 1:38:44.680 --> 1:38:47.080 and it always got that song always got me. It 1:38:47.120 --> 1:38:50.120 was just like it's just like just dig it in 1:38:50.200 --> 1:38:52.519 and just like you know, so as soon as I 1:38:52.560 --> 1:38:55.240 heard like even the first you know, first bars, it 1:38:55.320 --> 1:38:58.719 was like, all right, let's go, you know, so yeah, 1:38:58.760 --> 1:39:01.240 and then just play you know, play out the situation 1:39:01.320 --> 1:39:03.320 and take on take on the people that I had 1:39:03.360 --> 1:39:05.400 to take on and convince them of what's going on 1:39:05.439 --> 1:39:07.160 and what the truth is for this guy, you know. 1:39:07.760 --> 1:39:09.160 So it was, it was, it was. 1:39:09.800 --> 1:39:13.519 It was definitely exhilarating, and you know, being in New 1:39:13.600 --> 1:39:16.080 York and shooting in New York again, you know, with 1:39:16.160 --> 1:39:19.080 a great crew, New York crew. I mean that every 1:39:19.160 --> 1:39:22.479 time I do it is that alone gets just hits 1:39:22.520 --> 1:39:24.800 me with all the nostalgia and a pang in my 1:39:24.920 --> 1:39:28.680 chest of just overwhelming gratitude and just like, let's go, 1:39:28.840 --> 1:39:31.800 let's make this happen, like you know, and and let's 1:39:31.840 --> 1:39:34.519 do the best that we can with it. And uh, 1:39:35.000 --> 1:39:37.439 that just happened to me back in November when I 1:39:37.439 --> 1:39:40.000 got to shoot and you know with the episode the 1:39:40.080 --> 1:39:43.439 Christmas episode of OC, you know, and order and having 1:39:43.479 --> 1:39:45.400 to work with those guys, and it was such a 1:39:45.439 --> 1:39:48.120 great comeback because it was like many years after I 1:39:48.120 --> 1:39:50.800 had left New York, living in New York and and 1:39:50.840 --> 1:39:54.599 I remember like my first day I'm coming on set 1:39:54.880 --> 1:39:57.679 and the night before I just managed because I only 1:39:57.680 --> 1:39:59.799 had like five days to prefer this. This was an offer, 1:40:00.360 --> 1:40:03.320 and I was told in like three or four days 1:40:03.360 --> 1:40:04.800 I got a fly to New York and they said, 1:40:04.800 --> 1:40:07.280 oh shoot. So I get there the day before I 1:40:07.320 --> 1:40:10.840 have to film. So I'm researching online before I go 1:40:10.920 --> 1:40:15.639 on about what's the closest police precinct where the incident 1:40:15.640 --> 1:40:19.880 took place? And I called the precinct. I said, can 1:40:19.920 --> 1:40:22.920 I have an appointment with one of the captains or 1:40:22.960 --> 1:40:25.360 even the sergeant, just to like sit with him and 1:40:25.880 --> 1:40:28.280 just to feel them out? You know, I shoot this 1:40:28.400 --> 1:40:31.760 day on Friday, I get in on Wednesday. Can I 1:40:31.760 --> 1:40:33.880 meet with you on Thursday? And they were like, sure 1:40:33.880 --> 1:40:35.840 it apartment. It turns out where I was staying was 1:40:35.920 --> 1:40:39.559 only fifteen minutes away from the precinct. So I got 1:40:39.600 --> 1:40:41.960 a chance to sit down with those guys. They were 1:40:42.000 --> 1:40:45.000 so giving and so wonderful, and I was able to 1:40:45.080 --> 1:40:47.639 then just like drop in take all that information they 1:40:47.640 --> 1:40:50.479 gave me from New Jersey, understanding the logistics and the 1:40:50.520 --> 1:40:53.400 difference between both cities and their laws, because they literally 1:40:53.720 --> 1:40:55.880 I found out that there's a lot of laws that 1:40:55.960 --> 1:41:00.519 are different right over the GW between New York and 1:41:00.040 --> 1:41:04.960 and Fort Lee forty Thank you Fortley, the police Department 1:41:05.280 --> 1:41:08.640 Fort Lee. These guys come in from New York, do 1:41:08.760 --> 1:41:11.200 their crime and hustle back into New York so that 1:41:11.240 --> 1:41:14.240 they don't get charged for the same crimes in the 1:41:14.320 --> 1:41:16.519 scene on the same level. So a lot of the 1:41:16.680 --> 1:41:20.120 craziness was going on even while we were shooting. So 1:41:20.200 --> 1:41:24.719 like coming on set having that information was like thrilling, 1:41:24.920 --> 1:41:28.120 and it was it was like a nice welcome back, 1:41:28.160 --> 1:41:30.599 you know, back to New York and you know, having 1:41:30.600 --> 1:41:33.400 that vibe on set on a Lauren Order set mind 1:41:33.439 --> 1:41:34.120 you you know. 1:41:34.240 --> 1:41:37.519 Yeah, And did you reconnect with Maloney? Did you remember you? 1:41:37.600 --> 1:41:39.160 Because like you have a big scene with him in 1:41:39.280 --> 1:41:42.040 this in this episode from two thousand where he's like 1:41:42.280 --> 1:41:45.280 pressing you for a confession, and then now twenty years later, 1:41:45.360 --> 1:41:48.040 you're like reconnecting. And I was worried for your character 1:41:48.080 --> 1:41:50.000 because you're trying to arrest his son and we all 1:41:50.000 --> 1:41:52.800 know how Elliot Stabler feels about his children. Like I 1:41:52.840 --> 1:41:54.640 was like, he's going to get punched, Like I was 1:41:54.640 --> 1:41:55.200 worried about you. 1:41:55.280 --> 1:41:57.559 Yeah, No, he was very focused and he did you know, 1:41:58.520 --> 1:42:01.800 there was probably one wink of a like blink up 1:42:01.800 --> 1:42:03.519 an eye where he looked at me and was like 1:42:03.560 --> 1:42:04.479 why do I know this guy? 1:42:04.479 --> 1:42:05.840 But yeah, we didn't get into that. 1:42:05.920 --> 1:42:07.439 We didn't get into that and that, you know, and 1:42:07.479 --> 1:42:10.160 it's been such a long time that you know, obviously 1:42:10.520 --> 1:42:13.280 with everybody they've worked with, there's no way that they're 1:42:13.280 --> 1:42:14.880 going to remember Denny Carrea. 1:42:15.720 --> 1:42:16.160 Well, I know. 1:42:16.240 --> 1:42:17.960 It's so funny because it's like, even if you gave 1:42:18.000 --> 1:42:20.639 the premise, even if you're like, remember my ex wife 1:42:20.640 --> 1:42:22.640 was Psycho and she was beating up our kid, and 1:42:22.680 --> 1:42:24.320 it's like, yeah, I don't remember that. That's happened a 1:42:24.360 --> 1:42:25.599 bunch of times on the show, of. 1:42:25.520 --> 1:42:27.959 Course, of course, of course. And then you know, Marishka, 1:42:28.040 --> 1:42:29.759 she was so sweet. We had a scene they actually 1:42:29.760 --> 1:42:32.680 cut out such a cool scene. I wish they kept it. 1:42:33.720 --> 1:42:35.840 But we had this great connection. We had a great 1:42:35.960 --> 1:42:39.479 vibe that day, and I was internally geeking out because 1:42:39.680 --> 1:42:41.280 I love her work. I love her on the show, 1:42:41.360 --> 1:42:43.800 and you know, and I didn't, you know, I didn't 1:42:43.800 --> 1:42:46.280 want to impose that in any way, shape or form. 1:42:46.280 --> 1:42:47.680 I just wanted to do it through my work and 1:42:47.720 --> 1:42:50.120 give her my best. And she felt that, and she 1:42:50.200 --> 1:42:52.360 was really nice and supportive, and you know, that was 1:42:52.400 --> 1:42:53.200 a great experience. 1:42:54.200 --> 1:42:56.120 That's awesome. That's great to hear. 1:42:56.880 --> 1:43:00.120 Well, so you've worked on so many TV shows. I've 1:43:00.120 --> 1:43:03.479 been on so many sets, what is the sign of 1:43:03.520 --> 1:43:06.600 like a great set? And then have you ever experienced 1:43:06.640 --> 1:43:09.040 when you arrive and you're like, oh, this is going 1:43:09.080 --> 1:43:12.600 to be a mess, or like uh ah, this like 1:43:12.640 --> 1:43:15.800 what are the differences between like a solid set or 1:43:15.840 --> 1:43:17.879 when you it might not be so solid? 1:43:18.439 --> 1:43:21.479 Well, yeah, it's interesting because as a producer, and I've 1:43:21.520 --> 1:43:25.400 produced myself, one of the great things are the great 1:43:25.439 --> 1:43:31.160 caveats of producing, is that you understand the amount of 1:43:31.240 --> 1:43:33.880 pressure they're all going through to get a project done, 1:43:34.000 --> 1:43:37.240 whether it be fine tuned, well oiled running machine, or 1:43:37.560 --> 1:43:41.960 you know, some somewhat chaotic, So you understand what it takes, 1:43:42.120 --> 1:43:44.720 you know, for them to have finally the grace of 1:43:44.760 --> 1:43:48.280 being able to put up their production. So I sympathize man, 1:43:48.520 --> 1:43:51.120 and I I've learned early on how to be flexible 1:43:51.280 --> 1:43:56.040 with everyone and appreciate. So for me, my only concern 1:43:56.200 --> 1:43:59.160 is I have to be ready, So I do my 1:43:59.240 --> 1:43:59.840 prep work. 1:44:00.120 --> 1:44:01.360 On the day that I show up. 1:44:01.640 --> 1:44:05.879 That's a celebration of my preparation, and no matter what happens, 1:44:06.400 --> 1:44:09.519 whatever delays, whatever this, whatever that, or everything's running great, 1:44:09.680 --> 1:44:11.360 We're going to have a good time that day because 1:44:11.400 --> 1:44:14.800 it's a celebration that's my attitude about it. And that 1:44:14.880 --> 1:44:17.559 was taught to me early on through sports because I 1:44:17.600 --> 1:44:19.719 do martial arts and I do you know, I played 1:44:19.720 --> 1:44:23.240 baseball before and you know, and I don't remember where 1:44:23.360 --> 1:44:26.639 who told me that, but that was pivotal and key, 1:44:26.840 --> 1:44:29.880 you know, for my life moving forward to really just 1:44:30.000 --> 1:44:34.360 enjoy the process and to really just you know, appreciate 1:44:34.400 --> 1:44:38.200 and celebrate, especially after you know, doing all your research right, 1:44:38.280 --> 1:44:42.080 you know, because you know, because there are times early 1:44:42.120 --> 1:44:44.800 on many young actors fall through this kind of a 1:44:44.880 --> 1:44:50.400 pitfall where they over focus on their research and they 1:44:50.439 --> 1:44:54.760 forget to live, They forget to breathe, simple things like that, 1:44:55.040 --> 1:44:58.960 just breathe, breathing through your nose and dropping in and 1:44:59.120 --> 1:45:01.880 you know, letting the the work do what it's going 1:45:01.960 --> 1:45:04.400 to do. So when you show up with the right 1:45:04.439 --> 1:45:07.160 attitude to you know, to work, to just celebrate and 1:45:07.200 --> 1:45:09.679 you're dropped in and you're trusting all your your your 1:45:10.040 --> 1:45:12.760 you know, your your research and all your preparation, you're 1:45:12.800 --> 1:45:16.400 trusting that, then no matter what happens, it's a blessing 1:45:16.760 --> 1:45:18.479 and you're just doing your thing, you know, and you're 1:45:18.479 --> 1:45:19.080 doing your best. 1:45:20.040 --> 1:45:23.080 Yeah, that's awesome, That is very beautiful. 1:45:23.080 --> 1:45:27.360 I like your perspecting yea life in sports, and I agree. 1:45:27.400 --> 1:45:29.040 I played sports my whole life, and I feel like 1:45:29.080 --> 1:45:35.040 you learn a lot of lessons. Any final tidbits you'd 1:45:35.080 --> 1:45:37.880 love to share with our listeners from SVW or and 1:45:37.920 --> 1:45:40.960 then any upcoming projects that we should all watch out 1:45:41.040 --> 1:45:43.880 for you, or any tidbits from BOSH for me if 1:45:43.920 --> 1:45:44.240 you want. 1:45:46.600 --> 1:45:51.560 Bosh was great. I mean, yeah, Titus Well of amazing. 1:45:51.760 --> 1:45:53.479 Titus has been on SVU twice. 1:45:53.880 --> 1:45:56.680 Oh that's right, Yeah, and so has Jamie Hector. He 1:45:56.880 --> 1:45:58.840 was on, but he was a very little part, probably 1:45:58.840 --> 1:46:01.639 at the beginning of his career. Like I clock all 1:46:01.640 --> 1:46:03.040 the Bashi people on the show. 1:46:03.320 --> 1:46:07.280 Yeah, No, he's totally amazing and New Yorker as well. 1:46:07.520 --> 1:46:11.280 And yeah, Jamie, I ended up becoming great friends with 1:46:11.360 --> 1:46:13.800 him and we I put him in a movie called 1:46:13.800 --> 1:46:17.000 Canal Street that I produced and he did amazing in that. 1:46:18.160 --> 1:46:21.280 Here's a tidbit about any set, you know, especially if 1:46:21.320 --> 1:46:23.920 you're thinking about writing and producing and directing in any 1:46:23.920 --> 1:46:28.120 way as an actor. You never know where your next 1:46:28.200 --> 1:46:31.439 job is coming from. So everyone's paying attention to just 1:46:31.520 --> 1:46:33.400 go in there and celebrate and have a great time, 1:46:33.479 --> 1:46:38.200 have a great attitude and rock and roll, and somehow, 1:46:38.320 --> 1:46:41.840 some way someone took note of that, and you know, 1:46:42.479 --> 1:46:45.679 years later you might need a job. You're in between jobs, Somedden, 1:46:45.720 --> 1:46:47.479 you get a phone call. Because of who you are 1:46:47.520 --> 1:46:49.960 and what you know, the person you are and your 1:46:50.000 --> 1:46:52.880 great soul and how hard working you are, someone's going 1:46:52.920 --> 1:46:55.280 to call you up and be like, Yo, remember that 1:46:55.360 --> 1:46:56.920 day we worked on that set and I asked for 1:46:56.960 --> 1:46:57.639 your phone number. 1:46:57.840 --> 1:46:59.839 I got this great part for you, your perfect foreman. 1:47:00.200 --> 1:47:00.800 You know what I mean. 1:47:00.960 --> 1:47:03.679 It's important that you are nice to everyone on set 1:47:04.280 --> 1:47:07.719 and as far as s for you. Like I said before, 1:47:07.880 --> 1:47:12.080 I mean that is a complete honor. Uh, the Law 1:47:12.120 --> 1:47:16.720 and Order franchise, everything they involved. I have friends stealing it, 1:47:16.960 --> 1:47:20.200 rocking it, doing shows for them, and I'm always I'm always, 1:47:20.240 --> 1:47:22.840 you know, without imposing, I'm just like, yo, what's up? 1:47:23.080 --> 1:47:26.240 You know? You know, don't forget me. You know what 1:47:26.240 --> 1:47:28.439 I'm saying, you know, because I you know, play on 1:47:28.520 --> 1:47:30.040 Chicago PD or something. 1:47:29.800 --> 1:47:34.200 You know, like I could be a fireman, you know, 1:47:34.360 --> 1:47:40.240 so let's go. Wow, he is so cool. I mean, 1:47:40.240 --> 1:47:43.000 what a nice guy. He's been doing it for so long, 1:47:43.280 --> 1:47:48.120 like the Broadway to television to movies, trajectory has been Uh. 1:47:47.960 --> 1:47:51.000 I love a coaching little league moment. Yeah, that always 1:47:51.040 --> 1:47:54.160 gets me like excited for life. Yeah, I had a 1:47:54.200 --> 1:47:56.679 good time and playing little league. 1:47:56.680 --> 1:48:00.000 I guess, yeah, I played softball. I love that ship. 1:48:00.360 --> 1:48:02.960 Yeah, except the coach's daughter was always the pitcher, and 1:48:03.000 --> 1:48:05.400 it's like, I'm sorry, she's not even that good. Like, 1:48:05.840 --> 1:48:08.479 so she was good, I'd be like, okay, yeah, for sure, 1:48:08.560 --> 1:48:10.880 but it's because I remember when I played basketball, Brittany 1:48:11.000 --> 1:48:12.599 was just better than us and her dad was the coach. 1:48:12.640 --> 1:48:13.920 But it's like, of course she's not. 1:48:14.720 --> 1:48:17.200 Yeah, but Christina, you weren't even that good. So I 1:48:17.200 --> 1:48:22.200 don't know why were you pitching the whole time? All right? 1:48:22.479 --> 1:48:26.479 Post mortem, post mortem on legacy? What did we learn 1:48:26.760 --> 1:48:30.400 that fucking inherited drama is real? 1:48:30.880 --> 1:48:32.960 And you can't judge a book by its cover. Just 1:48:33.000 --> 1:48:35.120 because someone's wearing a little suit and has a soccer 1:48:35.160 --> 1:48:37.800 mom haircut, they could be raping their daughter with a 1:48:37.840 --> 1:48:38.280 hair brush. 1:48:38.400 --> 1:48:39.120 Oh I don't know. 1:48:39.960 --> 1:48:41.320 I think she was spanking her. 1:48:41.320 --> 1:48:45.639 But yeah, uh yeah, yeah, that's so true. I didn't 1:48:45.640 --> 1:48:47.920 really think about how this episode was a lot about like, 1:48:48.560 --> 1:48:51.680 you know, classism and stuff and how you think this 1:48:51.840 --> 1:48:55.040 fry Cook, who's an immigrant from another country. 1:48:55.240 --> 1:48:57.840 Is everyone looks at him as the bad guy. Also 1:48:57.920 --> 1:49:00.800 he's the man, but really it's the Yeah, it's the 1:49:00.840 --> 1:49:03.920 buttoned up mom with the two thousands eyebrows and the 1:49:04.560 --> 1:49:08.840 you know three wealth. Yeah, so just don't don't judge 1:49:08.840 --> 1:49:11.840 a book. But also, I mean, it's like I want 1:49:11.840 --> 1:49:13.960 to be like, see, if you see something, say something. 1:49:14.040 --> 1:49:15.840 Let's keep an eye on all of our children and 1:49:15.840 --> 1:49:17.719 not be afraid to say stuff. But it's like people 1:49:17.720 --> 1:49:21.320 said things a million times with Alisa, and unfortunately, you know, 1:49:21.400 --> 1:49:23.759 it wasn't enough. And it just feels like the system 1:49:23.840 --> 1:49:28.360 is so fucked. But you know what else, I guess 1:49:28.560 --> 1:49:30.479 try not to hook up with your zoom but instructor 1:49:30.479 --> 1:49:33.320 and rehab it's probably gonna go down a road. It's 1:49:33.360 --> 1:49:33.800 not great. 1:49:34.000 --> 1:49:38.120 But yeah, but it's like you're sober, Yeah, you need something. 1:49:39.400 --> 1:49:42.200 I guess you're gonna fuck the zoom bag. I guess sure, 1:49:42.240 --> 1:49:43.759 you're like not doing pills. 1:49:44.000 --> 1:49:46.400 Yeah, And people meet in rehab and stuff too, even 1:49:46.400 --> 1:49:48.439 though it's against the rules. I know people meet there 1:49:48.479 --> 1:49:51.599 and end up together. I know people who have But yeah, 1:49:51.600 --> 1:49:54.240 this is like this is a classic episode. I'm glad 1:49:54.280 --> 1:49:57.320 we did it, but really tough. The crime was Oh 1:49:57.400 --> 1:49:59.720 my god, I just can't believe every ten years there's 1:49:59.760 --> 1:50:03.360 like a Landmark horror showcase in New York and like 1:50:03.439 --> 1:50:05.960 nothing changes. And I'm sure there are in many other 1:50:06.000 --> 1:50:07.160 states the same situation. 1:50:07.360 --> 1:50:12.960 But yeah, stop having kids, Stop forcing people having kids, 1:50:13.040 --> 1:50:14.719 like unless you really want. 1:50:14.520 --> 1:50:19.000 To, Yeah, unless you have the emotional ability to take 1:50:19.000 --> 1:50:20.040 care of them, I suppose. 1:50:20.520 --> 1:50:20.760 Yeah. 1:50:20.800 --> 1:50:22.840 And yeah, if you're gonna think your daughter is filled 1:50:22.840 --> 1:50:24.760 with a demon, don't have a child. 1:50:24.880 --> 1:50:26.680 Or like, why didn't you just let all the other 1:50:26.720 --> 1:50:29.640 people that wanted or take her, like if call up 1:50:29.640 --> 1:50:32.000 that cousin and go, hey, I think this one has demons? 1:50:32.040 --> 1:50:35.000 Can you take her? Like it's like I don't understand, 1:50:35.240 --> 1:50:40.240 like it's it's an illness. 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