WEBVTT - The Break_3_5.mp3 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:04.840 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:06.440 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:16.079 Cowboys, Are you ready for a break? 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:16.640 Yes? 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:18.560 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:19.360 Absolutely? 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:21.360 Ready for a break? 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:23.720 Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:28.160 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:34.600 Were with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris and 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:35.800 Derek Eagleton. 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:41.560 Hello, guys, welcome back to the Break presented by LG. 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.479 We are back here with the full crew. I am 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:49.280 hosting today despite Derek being here. He decided to what 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.960 do they say, throwing the towel or whatever today, but 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:56.960 I'm taking over. But no, no, this last two days, 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.480 y'all have been working on a very exciting pro that's 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.440 gonna come out later on. So that's something to look 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.399 forward to, something very very exciting for all the fans 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.040 out there. In the meantime, this week and last week 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:12.800 was very very busy, and especially yesterday, a lot of 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.080 new signings and all that. We'll get to the combine 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.759 and what happened over there, but wanted to start off 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.000 with the main thing that's happening later today. Zach Martin. 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:26.759 He's gonna hold his press conference for his official announcement 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:31.039 of his retirement, which is tears under my eyes. But 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:35.120 that's gonna be happening live at eleven am this morning, 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.600 so right after the show, you guys can tune in 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:41.400 on Dallas Cowboys dot com and watch that. So for now, 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.480 we're gonna go ahead and talk about Osa, the first 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.480 contract that came out. Initially, it was expected or talks 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:52.280 were going around that the Cowboys could potentially franchise tag him, 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.240 but they ended up working out a deal and signed yesterday. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.360 And the total deal is for four years and a 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:05.320 total of eighty million dollars and with fifty two million guarantee. Nick, 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.560 since you're looking right at me, let's start with you 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.959 and in your opinions and thoughts on this contract that 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.079 the Cowboys were able to do with a key player 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:13.840 in the defense. 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:15.600 Yeah, when I went to bed on Monday night, I 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.079 was preparing for a franchise tag situation because obviously yesterday 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.960 was the deadline at three pm Central time to get 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.679 a franchise tag done. And what that would have basically 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:26.600 done for the Cowboys is it would have put a 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:29.280 placeholder on Osa to guzero for the twenty twenty five season. 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.280 And it still would have allowed them continue those long 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.200 term negotiations for a long term deal going into the future. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.919 But it also in some ways kind of would have 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.240 set a floor at twenty five million, because that's what 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.280 that franchise tag was. So if you're looking at from 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.200 the team's perspective, there's some urgency to get that done 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:50.120 before the franchise tag, and that's what they did. And fans, 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.760 if y'all do, if y'all did not like Osa to 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:54.720 Guzuo before, I think y'all should a little bit more 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:56.959 coming into today because this is a team friendly deal. 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:58.639 At the end of the day, this is four years, 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:02.360 eighty million dollars. Had he waited until free agency and 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.000 had he been able to push that into March twelfth 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:06.680 and still been on the open market at that time, 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:09.079 he could have gotten nine figures out of this ordeal. 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.400 There were teams that were expected to show high interest 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.440 in him, teams that need a defensive tackle, but also 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.720 Digizua wanted to stay in Dallas, and there was a 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.080 thought around the organization when the season ended, it was like, 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.120 hey man, we've loved having you around here, but we 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.680 don't think we can afford you. He's like hoh, wait up, 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:25.560 but let's see what we can work out something. And 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.280 sure enough they're able to work out something. Also, Digiz 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.799 do a big time team friendly deal and on top 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.040 of that, it's only a six point twenty five million 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.600 dollar cap hit in twenty twenty five. That is massive, 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:38.480 massive in a good way. It allows this team to 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.440 do a lot of things. It allows them to walk 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.320 through a lot of doors, a lot of doors that 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:43.440 they walked through yesterday. 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:44.440 Yeah. 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:46.720 I think that this goes to show you, though, when 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.320 you have an agent that will work with you, and 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.400 that's really the most important thing. It always is about 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.720 a two way street. Sometimes you catch agents that are 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.480 you know, they're really like, listen, we got to do this. 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.480 We got to make sure that we got all these 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:03.080 things covered. Not that Osa's agent wasn't prepared and ready 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.240 and they had an idea, but you do. If you 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:09.000 have a very good working relationship with an agent, you 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:10.840 can do a lot of good things. And so they 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:12.640 caught a good one on this one. So that's very 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.680 very fortunate. We've had some here lately though, where they're 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.120 very good agents, but they are going to try and 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.560 get everything they can out of the deal and you know, 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.560 the player has to also be able to step in 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.359 and say what his desire is to be able to 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.839 do so good for the agent, good for Osa, good 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.680 for the Cowboys getting that all done. And this is 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.839 obviously a player that Matt eberflu says, these coaches have 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:38.320 come into the building. Matt Eberflus a disciple, if you 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.200 want to say, of Rod Marinelli, the three technique is 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.880 very very important to his defense, to his scheme, and 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.240 he felt like that Osa was. 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:48.240 A big, big part of that. 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:53.320 It's interesting from a scouting perspective as Nick and I 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.599 work on the draft, is this is a really really 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:00.120 deep class when it comes to one technique's three technique. 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.280 So maybe you're sitting there thinking, wow, man, with it's 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.599 being so deep, why would they Well, it just shows 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:09.360 you that Ibra Flu's you know, the staff felt like 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.640 that this player was more important than any other player 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.240 that could be on that board that they're going to 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.360 take in this draft. Not I think they're still going 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.080 to take defensive tackles, but it kind of it kind 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.120 of puts them in a little bit different direction this 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:21.760 time around. 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:23.920 Yeah, I think Brian, when I when I look at 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.000 it from that perspective. The one thing I think about 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:27.720 is there are a number of positions that I think 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.120 the Dallas Cowboys going to have to address this offseason. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:31.839 This just gives them one. 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.039 Less option, one less position that they have that they 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.240 have to address in the draft. It doesn't mean they 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.520 may not find a player that they like in the 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.800 draft at the defensive tackle position, but it's one less 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.000 position that they have to address. We know there are 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.200 going to be other positions that are very important for 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.640 them to address. He threw either through free agents or 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:49.640 through the draft or both. This just gives them a 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.560 little bit of clearance. And I'll tell you this, I 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:53.160 think we all agreed on this show. There were two 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.920 players and you guys may even have more. But for me, 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:57.600 there were two players going into this offseaing and I 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.640 felt offseason that I felt like it was important Dallas 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:02.160 to resign if possible. 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:03.920 One of them is also diggi Zoo. 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.479 I think that's a huge win, a huge get for 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.240 them to keep him, and especially at the price that 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.560 they got him. But in addition to that, I think 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.760 if they can get something done with Jordan Lewis, then 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:14.640 to me, I look at this offseason I'm like, Okay, 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.760 they kept the guys they needed to keep. Now we'll 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.040 see what other guys they can go out and maybe 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.440 improve their team with in free agency, and then what 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.039 are they do in the draft, And let's see if 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.640 they can get the right talent put together for this 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:27.760 team in order for them to compete more favorably this 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:28.960 year than they did last year. 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.960 Well, moving on to the second guy that they were 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:36.440 able to agree to terms with. I don't believe he's 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.000 signed yet, but they've agreed on something. It's a one 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:43.720 year deal with CJ. Goodwin, a guy that's also very 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.200 much a key player to not only like the defense, 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:49.279 but also the special teams. He does a lot on 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.640 that side. He's not a flashy player, but someone that 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.000 does serve a lot of good What are your thoughts 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:59.240 on this deal and what he brings to this new 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.000 set of coaches, Bryan. 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.400 You know, I've had my issues with c J. 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.240 Goodwin and and it's it's well known, and you know, 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.440 I felt like that this was always a core special 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:16.560 teams player for one specific coach. Coach is no longer 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.680 here with us, you know, it's and I don't mean 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:22.120 that as a goodbye you know rip thing. I mean 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.600 that he's now with the Tennessee Titans with bones fossil, 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.720 and so to me, I was I was a little 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:33.080 bit surprised that maybe that that combination didn't show up 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:33.880 in Nashville. 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:35.800 Uh. It just shows you that C. J. 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.239 Goodwin wants to be here, he likes to be here, 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.800 and you know he's comfortable being here, and so uh yeah, 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:46.520 it's uh. Schottenheimer has a a history with him just 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.680 for him being on the staff. So he understands, Uh, 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.280 we'll see with Nick Sours and the new SEC, the 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.240 new excimy special teams coach, he might have been watching 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.160 tape and saying, listen, Goodwin is a good player. We 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.360 can use him, is how we'll use him. But yeah, 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.800 once again, another one year deal, another friendly type of 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:09.080 a deal. But I'm always looking to kind of upgrade 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:09.720 that position. 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.960 I think if we're looking at it from a training 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.320 camp perspective and we're trying to keep an eye on 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.280 who's going to be the starting gunners on punt team 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.040 and who's gonna be those guys running down guys on 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.120 kick team, I think Jalen Brooks and Marquise Bell have 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.000 done more than enough to earn some credit in that respect. 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.280 So is it, you know, maybe a situation where CJ. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.080 Goodwin's fighting for a job at training camp. You know, 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:30.280 that's that's probably a question. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.679 He had a sponsor before he had a sponsor. I 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:34.480 don't know if he has a sponsor here or he's going. 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.600 To be thirty five years old next year. You wonder 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.840 about that, but they're at least going to give him 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:40.199 that shot. 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.360 I have a question for you, guys, do you think 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.960 the day of the special team's ace, the guy that 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.400 makes the team only because of what he does in 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:52.760 special teams on special teams has changed a bit with 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:57.040 the new rules around kick return with the kickoff, because 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.440 there you don't need the guy that can run to 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:04.680 get downfield and get to the ball. Like still the punts, 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.360 it's still you still need your gunners. But is it 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.719 a situation where, because there is less opportunity for them 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:14.000 to really make impact, now you're more concerned about giving 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.120 that spot to someone who is just a special team's 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.360 ace versus saying, can my fourth wide receiver, fifth wide receiver, 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:22.800 Can my fourth cornerback fifth cornerback actually play that role 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:26.000 really well? And that's because they can do something else 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.319 pretty well, it's more valuable to have that than have 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:30.160 a special team case. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.800 Well, Steven Jones and the Competition committee meeting in Indianapolis 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.480 is talking about the kickoff rules again, and well, you know, 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.559 are they saying, hey, instead of putting the ball in 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.199 the twenty five, what if we put the ball in 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.480 the thirty five? Are we going to encourage you to 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:45.520 keep kicking it in the end zone? And if you're 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:49.160 playing against somebody like Turpin, Yeah, you know, having the 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.120 ball at the thirty five is better than having it 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:51.960 at the forty five. 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.360 Yeah, you know, kind of a thing. So yeah, I think, 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:54.640 to me. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.600 This is one of those times where you look at 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.600 it and you know, you say, yeah, that might not 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.880 mean as much, but the league is trying to force 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.600 kickoff returns, and you know, the Cowboys had some really 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.480 good success with their kickoff returns, so I would be 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.400 encouraged that way. But I also, you're gonna have to 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.040 start to cover kicks too, and you can't have the 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.480 ball starting off at midfield, so you're gonna have to 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.400 have some guys that are able to to to do 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:22.680 those those coverage things. 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:24.679 Uh, you know you need. 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.679 But maybe it's too To your point, Derek, is that 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:31.280 you need to find running backs that can play special teams. 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.920 You need to find receivers that can play special teams. 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.000 You need to you you are taking up a roster spot, 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:38.880 and you are taking up a roster spot on the 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.960 game day active, so to have you know, to have 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.240 a you know, the Cowboys for a while there, it 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.480 seems like they haven't had running backs that have played 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:48.400 special teams. 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.520 You know. You look at with Zeke and others. 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.720 I mean, uh, even with uh with you know, with 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.720 yeah exactly Cook, you know, even even with Douce. 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:58.400 Vaughan, they tried. 0:10:58.960 --> 0:10:59.120 Yeah. 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.120 So what I'm saying it's, you know, if you if 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.240 you're if your roster is set up in a way 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:07.559 where you don't have receivers and running backs and others 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:11.199 playing that position, you're going to have to have one 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:12.600 or two guys be specialists. 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:12.960 Yep. 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.640 Well, if it was with CJ, I think he feels 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:20.280 a position that would have been filled through free agency 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.040 with another player. So it's like kind of getting about 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.560 the same thing that you would have found maybe through 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:29.000 free agency with someone else. But in this instance, you 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.120 get somebody that already has been here and you get 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.600 to keep working with him and coaching him under a 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.640 different voice. So potentially it could be a lot better 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.720 for him this year and what he can bring to 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:40.240 the table. 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:41.760 Well, let me also say real quick, I want to 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.200 say this about CJ. I think this last year to 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.240 me was a little different than what he's been to 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.360 this point. There was a time when you'd see CJ 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:53.959 on on these these these special teams type plays, what 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:59.080 he was consistently the man downfield making the tackle consistently. 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.160 I mean almost every single time. He had the speed, 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:06.000 he had the facility, yeah, all that that it takes 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.200 to get down there and get in and make the tackle. 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.360 This last year, I think is the first time I 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:12.360 started to see a little crack in that. And my 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.079 question is just it was that where we're starting to 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.280 see a little bit of age or what we just 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.640 seeing a year where maybe it just wasn't his best year. 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:21.440 And it doesn't mean he was a slouch. I don't 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.040 think there were situations where he wasn't down there. It 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.720 just wasn't like every single time he's the guy making 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:28.760 the play. If you're going to be the special teams ace, 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:30.839 you kind of want to see it every single time, right, 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.360 because you're taking a spot only for that purpose. But 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.520 my interest is in seeing was last year in aberration 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:41.160 or was that kind of the beginning of the decline 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:42.360 that happens with every player. 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.200 I kind of felt like I saw more penalies than 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.160 I did tackles. You know, if he had like he 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.160 had four or five penalties. You know, if your guys 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:54.040 the special teams ace, I don't think you can work 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.240 through four or five penalties a game on that guy. 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:02.520 Fair point. To close off the all the signings that 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.680 occurred yesterday, let's talk about brock Hoffman. He's another one 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.680 who was set to become an exclusive rights free agent 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.160 and the Cowboys ended up working out the deal. Signing 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:16.240 the deal with him, what I mean to me, that's 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.960 like a sign of relief. You get it said done. 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.160 Today we know that Zach Martin is announcing his retirement 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:26.920 and he's the top candidate to become the one taking 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.360 over the position. There're still talks about what's going to 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:32.120 happen if you're moving out guys, what's gonna happen with 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:33.840 Cooper Bebe in the center. 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.400 But what does this mean for the Cowboys? 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.680 Knowing that they have now brock Kaffman set. 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:40.120 I mean, if you look at it, he's a leader 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.080 in the clubhouse as far as the guys that they 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.040 do have in the building that could be a potential 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.400 replacement at right guard for Zach Martin. They're gonna go 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.480 get an interior guy in this draft. Sure. Is it 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.560 going to be early, is it gonna be late? Who knows. 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.080 You're also getting Nathan Thomas back from injury. You haven't 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.200 seen what he could do in that interior offensive line. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.240 You also factor in Awesome Richards. You know, he a 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.440 guy that they maybe want to slide back inside and 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.200 see what he can do with that spot. There's gonna 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.120 be a lot of moving around. TJ. Bass too. I'd 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.439 be remiss if I didn't mention him. But brock Hoffman 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.320 is the leader in the clubhouse with those guys. I mean, 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.080 he started seven games last year. He started at center, 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.160 he started at right guard. I mean he played so 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.520 well at center that the conversation has been brought up about, Okay, 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:19.400 do you move Cooper bv back to guard and do 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.920 you put Hoffman at center? And so this is a 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.920 really important guy to bring back. He's kind of the 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.440 sixth man of that offensive line at worst, and those 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.800 six men they certainly get paid. You know, call him 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.640 the Jamal Crawford of this offensive line. I'd take him 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:34.320 every day of the week. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.360 Explain who Jamal Crawford is for everybody out there. 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:39.640 One of the best six man of all time. 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:44.040 There you go, yeah, you know to me, I have 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.240 a lot of respect for brock Hoffman, and I think 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.040 he played a lot better than I even thought he 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:52.080 could play. Don't want to play brock Hoffman for seventeen weeks, No, 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:55.000 I really don't. I think where he plays very well 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.120 is if he's a five or six game guy and 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:01.400 he could step in he's quality depth that way. I 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.520 think Nick's absolutely right. I do think that they're going 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:07.200 to look for a guard here, and it could be 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.640 very very early in this draft. So I would be 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.800 very mindful and aware of that. If you follow the 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.040 draft show, we've been talking about a lot about these 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.520 offensive linemen. We've been talking about tackles that could play guard. 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:24.520 But you know, if you listen to the conversations though, 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.640 coming out of the combine, it was like they were 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:31.080 pretty much talking about this offensive line, and even Brian 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.960 Schottenheimer was talking about Tyler Geidton and you know stuff 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:39.000 like that. So obviously they have an understanding of who 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:39.360 they are. 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:40.120 Uh. 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.920 But I could definitely see him adding more pieces, and 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:44.720 I could see him adding a piece at right guard. 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.960 Yeah, I would say brock Kaufman is he He is 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.640 a player that I think allows them to also be 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:52.960 able to draft best player available. And what I mean 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:54.840 by that is and they talk about this a lot. 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:57.960 They try in free agency and in signing their own 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.280 guys to be able to free themselves up on up 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.640 on draft data where there is no position they have 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.640 to draft at any particular time. That allows them to 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:08.640 be more savvy on draft day because teams ahead of 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.440 them and teams behind them don't know exactly what they're 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.600 going to have to do at a specific spot. So 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.560 this to me is just you get a guy. He's 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.240 great for depth if you need to start him because 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:19.960 the draft just doesn't fall to you in that way, 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.120 you feel like you could be okay there. So I 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:25.200 think that this signing is as much about the draft 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.880 and giving themselves the opportunity to draft the best player 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:29.000 available as anything else. 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.520 Yeah, they could also be in the market for you know, 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.280 there's gonna be names on the free agency list when 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:37.160 that opens up, and you know, March twelfth, when that happens, 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:38.960 we could start to talk about those names a. 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:39.920 Little bit more freely. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:44.840 But there are some connected Dots players with with with 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:48.440 Adams the line coach that and maybe a prominent free 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.360 agent that he would like to have that is a guard. 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:53.640 But we'll get to that on the March twelfth day. 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.360 Let's go ahead and take our first break. 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To other guys that I free 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.080 ought to mention, they just recently pulled the trigger on 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:00.800 that and it was a pretty is the same thing 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:04.679 as Brod Hoffman because these other two guys were also 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:09.480 exclusive rights free agents as well. We got Juania Thomas 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.399 and then Tyres Wheat. Why can't you guys tell me 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:13.480 about these two guys. 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:15.800 Yeah, one year, Thomas, I think at worst is your 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:19.080 eventual CJ could win replacement. I think at best is 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.639 a guy who could legitimately play safety one day for 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:25.040 this team. We've seen him get rotated in. Whenever Donovan 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:27.399 Wilson's had some struggles in the past couple of years, 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:29.000 or if there's been an injury to either him or 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.919 Mollie Cooker. We've seen one Yea Thomas rotate in. He 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.280 got a healthy amount of time last year towards the 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:36.399 back half of the season. He's a guy you want 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:38.520 to keep in this building for sure. Also for locker 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.840 room camaraderie. I mean, he's a big energy in that 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.840 locker room. Guys love him. And then tyros Whet just 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.639 another rotational defensive end guy that they've had for the 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:49.600 last couple of years. He was an undrafted free agent 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.160 out Mississippi State in twenty twenty three, made his way 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:53.959 out to the fifty three man roster both of these 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:56.159 last two years. Hasn't really played a whole lot, but 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:59.160 he's been really crucial on special teams. So a couple 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.640 more special teams yield. 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:06.480 Okay, well, let's go ahead and move on to the 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:10.480 salary cap conversation. And before we get into that specifically, 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:14.160 let's talk about what they did with City Lamps restructure. 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:17.720 They restructure his contract and basically we're able to save 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:21.280 the team twenty million dollars for twenty twenty five for 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:25.280 this season this year. And those are pretty easy move that. 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:28.359 You know, it doesn't mean that city is not getting 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:30.640 his money. He's getting it. They're just pushing it down 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:33.720 the line. Something that kind of made my eyes wide 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:38.080 open is to see how much the salary cap has 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:42.000 increased for this year. It went from two hundred and 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:46.960 fifty five point four million dollars in cap to now 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:52.119 at record setting two hundred and seventy nine point two million. 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.800 You're making that face there like it's nothing. I mean, 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:57.560 I see these numbers. I'm like, WHOA, where all these 0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:02.320 dollars coming from? Oh my god. Okay, but let's start 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:05.240 with you, Derek White, open yeah, with your eyes wide open. 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:07.400 What does this mean? 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:07.840 What? 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:11.560 What do you feel this does for the Cowboys with 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:13.159 this year and what they were able to do and 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:17.399 now figuring out ways to uh find room in the 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:19.359 salary and create room in space. 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:21.639 First of all, I thought this has always been expected 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:23.199 that they were gonna they were going to do this. 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:26.240 My expectations will probably do something similar with DK have to. 0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:28.200 But but the way I look at it is it's 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:30.920 just giving them money to operate. They there's a lot 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:32.840 of money that comes up the salary cap that has 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:34.919 to happen with your draft picks. They want to have 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:37.360 I assume a little money be able to sign obviously 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:39.959 some of these guys that they want to keep, and 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:44.080 then also my hope, my hope is that they're freeing 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:45.399 up a little bit of money so they can get 0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:46.880 a little more active in free agency. 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:49.359 I think after last season. 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.560 I think the amount of players that they lost last year, 0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:56.600 we saw that the results of that. Once they started losing, 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:58.720 guy's injury, and in this business, you have to be 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:01.919 prepared for injury. And so the hope is that this 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:04.480 year they go a little bit opposite of that. I 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:06.399 don't expect them to be like, We're going out and 0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:08.560 getting all the greatest free agents out there, but I 0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:10.880 do expect it if they can get one or two 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.399 guys that really can fill a specific role for them. 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:16.920 Maybe it's a linebacker, maybe it's a running back, maybe 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:19.760 it's a cornerback, guard, maybe it's a guard. I think 0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:22.320 there are some positions where you're like, they can go 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:24.639 out and get a guy that is may not be 0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:27.680 the top of the market type guy, but a guy 0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:29.720 that certainly can be very solid for you at a 0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:32.400 certain position. Then I think they're freeing up the money 0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:34.119 to be able to give them Maybe that latitude to 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:34.359 do it. 0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:35.439 That's at least my hope. 0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:35.920 Nick. 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:38.320 I don't know if you've heard different from me on this, 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:42.200 but I as much as they'd like to bottom fish 0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:45.480 at times for free agents, I heard that maybe the 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.320 plan is to look at more the middle of the 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:51.200 pack of the free agents. What Derek was talking about, 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:54.359 not the you know, maybe not day one, maybe not 0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:58.520 jumping in there and making a massive pitch for somebody 0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:01.760 and trying to get that done, but maybe more about 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:04.000 of the middle of the board, you know, maybe not 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:05.720 sit out two weeks of it then all of a 0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:08.440 sudden jump in. Maybe it's maybe it's two or three 0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:11.040 days and then you jump in. I've kind of hearing 0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:13.920 some whispers that that might be the case, that they're 0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:17.280 more interested in looking at the middle of free agency. 0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:17.679 Than they are at the bottom. 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:20.320 Not to say they're not going to try and do something, 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:23.080 because they did some really some very good things you 0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:25.080 look at with Carl Lawson and what he was able 0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:28.680 to bring, but kind of down there, they're thinking about 0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:31.320 more of that middle, not maybe day one, day two, 0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:34.120 or day three, but start talking to us at day four, 0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:36.840 day five and go in that route. So that in 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:39.720 self I think is a very encouraging way to go 0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:43.200 considering how things have gone here the last couple of years. 0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:45.400 I mean, if you look at it and the struggles 0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:48.840 that the Cowboys had highlighted last year with all the injuries, 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.240 is that the depth wasn't ready to go, and so 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:55.160 you can expect free agency to be an addressing of 0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:57.280 that depth as well as a draft class, and this 0:24:57.480 --> 0:24:58.919 definitely gives them the freedom to do so. 0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:00.879 Yeah, I think the one thing, and I don't know 0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:02.920 about you guys, the one thing that I've learned from 0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:07.159 watching Philadelphia is you have to be able to and 0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:10.080 we'd like to talk around here about twenty four to seven, 0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:12.639 you know, with the way you look at you know, 0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:17.760 player personnel. To me, the team in Philadelphia, they draft, 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:21.280 they trade, and they signed free agents. I'm not saying 0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:24.040 you have to sign every single high free agent, but 0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:26.800 you can't just be in one of those areas. You know, 0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:28.920 they tell us, hey, we're a twenty four to seven 0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.800 group around here. Well you need to kind of catch 0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:33.800 up in that way. And maybe this is a change. 0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:37.120 Maybe we're going to see a more active and free agency. 0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:39.240 You know, they got on this early about getting Osa 0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:41.800 done you know, now we're starting to hear whispers. Nick's 0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:44.880 starting to report about, you know, Micah Parsons, and then 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:47.560 potentially I would not be surprised if Nick writes a 0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.159 story and tells me about Deron Bland is going to 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:52.879 be somebody that they're talking about getting done here. So 0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:55.320 being very proactive in that, playing in the middle of 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:56.080 the of the. 0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:57.040 Free agency pool. 0:25:57.359 --> 0:25:59.919 Also having the flexibility and the ability to want to 0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:03.719 trade for players, I think you have to be proficient 0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:05.639 in all three of those. That's the one thing I 0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:08.120 learned from watching the Philadelphia Eagles build their team. 0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:10.080 Can I give you an example. I go back to 0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:13.320 the twenty twenty three offseason. To me, that was what 0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.520 I expect them to all right, at least I'm hoping 0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:20.040 that they're willing to do this year. They acquired Brandon Cooks, 0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:26.000 they acquired Stephan Gilmore, they a Chumway Doga, they acquired 0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:28.720 Ronald Jones. These were guys that were not top of 0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:30.719 the top line guys. They were guys that were kind 0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:32.320 of in the middle pack. And by the way, some 0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:34.000 of them didn't work out to be great players. Ronald 0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.399 Jones didn't really give them anything, but the point is 0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:38.159 they were active enough to where they were trying to 0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.960 fill holes and get guys that they thought, Hey, they're 0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:42.680 at a point in their career, let's see what they've got. 0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:44.280 Let's see if we can get something out of them. 0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:46.880 And I thought Stephan Gilmore played really well that year 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.720 for the Cowboys, and Cooks has kind of been up 0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.320 and down, but I thought, by and large, again that's 0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:54.000 the kind of moves I want to see them make, 0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:56.520 is take a shot here and there, and you see 0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:57.360 how those play out. 0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.000 But in free agency it's always going to be a 0:26:59.000 --> 0:26:59.879 bit of a crapshoot. 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:01.680 But I do think I'd like to see them a 0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:03.200 little more active like they were that year. 0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:05.240 Are you bringing Cooks back? No? 0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:07.639 I think I'm really I want to go to try another. 0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:08.000 I agree. 0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.919 I was just curious if there Yeah, no, would you 0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:11.439 would you go? 0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.800 Would you go all in on somebody like DeVante Adams 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:16.400 who's been released now by the Jets? 0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:21.399 Probably not. I want a healthy Robin to see D's Batman, 0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:22.879 and I don't feel like that would be more so 0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:24.520 like too bad man's being in the room staring at 0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:24.840 each other. 0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:25.920 Is that not a bad thing? 0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:27.760 A good thing to be a bad thing. 0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:30.360 Could I convince you at thirteen million a year. 0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:33.880 For DeVante Adams? Can you get him at thirteen million 0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:34.160 a year? 0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.879 I'm just going to say that that he played really 0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:40.680 about twenty eight I believe it was last year. He's 0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:42.840 more of his value is if you look at the 0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.959 how his projections of numbers and stuff are potentially what 0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:50.280 he should earn or could earn. Thirteen million dollars seems 0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.080 to be the number that people are throwing out there. 0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.200 Maybe that's the thing that we want to look at. 0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:56.760 If it's thirteen million, Yeah, but I don't think it's 0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:59.359 going to be Yeah, I'll toe you this. 0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:01.679 I will say this though, And the more studies you 0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:06.160 did on say, for example, for OsO Diggi Zua, there 0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:08.359 was you know, over the cab does a thing the 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:12.080 valuation of players. He was right around a twenty million 0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:15.000 dollars a year player for you last year what they 0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:18.720 signed him for twenty million dollars. So maybe there's maybe 0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.119 some of these agents are realizing, Okay, this is the 0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.440 value Adams is he Is. 0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:25.840 He a thirty five million dollar year player? Absolutely not? 0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:27.840 Is he a twenty five million dollars a year player? 0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:31.200 Absolutely not is he a fifth Is he a thirteen 0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:34.520 to fifteen million dollar player? Okay, now we're talking. Now, 0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.439 we're talking about things. So to me, if that's the 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.000 number and they want to do it, and they want 0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:42.360 to do it for just a couple of years something 0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.080 like that or a year, I would absolutely kick the 0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:45.880 tires on that one. 0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:46.160 Yeah. 0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:47.920 I don't want to kill a show idea because we're 0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:49.360 going to talk about this next week. We're going to 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:51.640 dive into some of the names. But just go look 0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.320 at the number of names. The number like, there's a 0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.760 lot of big time wide receivers that will be available 0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:00.480 in free agency this year when that happened, and there's 0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:02.680 always a chance that that drives the price down. It's 0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.160 simple to ply and demand, right, If you have a 0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.640 lot of something, then typically the price is going to 0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:09.600 be less expensive than if you. 0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:10.240 Only have a few. 0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:13.120 And and I think that could help you to your point, Brian, 0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:15.719 of thinking about all those things and what he may 0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.520 end up costing. It may end up being driven down 0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:20.200 by all the guys that are available. 0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:20.160 At for you age. 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.080 It's a similar conversation if you flip it to the 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:23.960 running backs, because there's not a lot and then you 0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:25.760 look at a guy like Rigo Dawdle, he's probably gonna 0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:27.360 get paid more than what he would have been a 0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:28.640 safe He was a free agent last year. 0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:30.280 A those running backs last year, they all a lot 0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:32.320 of them took took deals that were not as big 0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:33.920 as they thought they were going to get six and 0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:36.040 then they all proved like they all went out involved 0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:39.400 and then now everybody's like, oh wow, man on art contract. 0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.600 Art did, Yeah, yeah, that was the highest running back 0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:44.200 in his head, twenty million dollars. 0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:48.600 They'll be paying him twenty million dollars in twenty twenty nine, which. 0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.560 Is twenty eight twenty Oh that it was a two 0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:51.120 year deal. 0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:52.520 So it was, but they added those two years on 0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:54.520 the end of Oh it's a weird eng Yes, so 0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:56.520 like basically it has four years left on his deal, 0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:58.240 but that money doesn't. 0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.040 Care howly be at that point, I don't know how. 0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:03.160 But I know that that cap is going to be shisty. 0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:04.320 They're not worried about that. 0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:05.760 For some reason. 0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.240 They don't worry. They're they're planning in a parade. 0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:08.520 Right. 0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.600 All right, let's take our second and final break. When 0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:15.520 we come back, we'll talk about some of the things 0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:19.560 that came out from the NFL combine. But before we 0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.800 go to break, Derek, do me the owners go ahead 0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:26.240 and read us LG please tell me about l G 0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:26.800 l lead. 0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.360 LG is the best TV in the game. But don't 0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:32.720 take our word for it. Digital trends say it the 0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:35.320 l G O lead G four has the best picture 0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.240 quality they've ever seen. 0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:40.480 For yourself at LG dot com fort slash o lead Evil. 0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:43.080 Is there your first time doing the read Yeah? 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We could, 0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:01.240 we could do something. 0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:03.560 I guess that's now the that's now the spraise of the. 0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:11.000 Awesome selectively aggressive. But I mean they've started off. They 0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:16.360 started off good with preventing certain players from going and 0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:18.600 we just talked about them, and they tend to do 0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:21.279 this though, they tend to sign their own and they 0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:24.160 started doing so. But I want to ask you, guys, 0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:28.560 what does selectively aggressive means to you? What is your 0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:33.759 interpretation of these two words put together? That's what it 0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.200 means that the Cowboys are planning or attempting to do 0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:37.280 in this free agency. 0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.040 See, that's what gives me hope that when I said 0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:41.960 that they would be active this year in free agency 0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.560 where they have not been is I do think they're 0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:48.560 gonna find one or two guys that are gonna shock 0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:50.959 some people and be like, we're gonna go after those 0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.520 guys because we think we got value there. 0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.640 That's our hope, right. But there's your hope when you Yeah. 0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.040 But when you say selectively aggressive, that's what it says 0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:00.800 to me is we're not going to be the team's 0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.120 just gonna be out there just flinging money around, but 0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:07.080 we're going to find a couple players that we really love. 0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:08.520 That we're going to say, we're going to go in 0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:09.799 and we're going to make a We're going to make 0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:10.240 it happen. 0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:10.799 Yeah. 0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.279 I agree, We'll see who those players are. 0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:13.600 Yeah. 0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.160 Also think Zoo, I think is an example of them 0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:20.279 being selectively aggressive. They found a identification of a guy 0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:21.840 that they want to bring back, and they were aggressive 0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:23.720 in pursuing him. I think there could be a couple 0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:25.560 of more inside the building that they don't want to 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.080 let hit free agency, so that would be selectively aggressive 0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:30.640 as well. But as as far as free agency goes, 0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.080 I think I'm with you, Brian as far as they'll 0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.360 probably go after these mid tier type guys and maybe 0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:35.440 that's where they're aggressive. 0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:38.399 I hope they're selectively right, right, that's key. 0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:41.160 There's been some times around here where they've kind of 0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.040 played and they've dipped their toe in those pools Derek 0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:48.479 mentioned and not come up well, so yeah, they need 0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:51.800 a they need a run here from their pro department, 0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:54.640 now for the most part, has done a pretty solid 0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:56.440 job for them, but they are going to need if 0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.279 they're going to be selective. That tells me they've got 0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:02.920 an ideas they're looking at their pro personnel board of guys. 0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.760 Maybe at the combine there's some of the best tampering 0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.040 you'll ever see in the league goes on there, but 0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:10.879 that's okay. You know, you get an idea of these 0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.600 agents and who might be out there and who might 0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:16.120 you know, want to come to you for the right 0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.759 price and stuff. So if they're going to be selective, 0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:23.040 please be selectively right as you're doing this, because you're 0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.640 probably gonna take maybe two three shots of this thing, 0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.200 you know, and you need those players to step in 0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:30.360 and play it at a play at a very high level. 0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:33.479 Well, what I was gonna say, like, yes, it sounds good, 0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:35.600 and I agree with everything that you guys said, But 0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.520 I think where they get you is that sometimes they 0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:42.920 see value differently than what the general public sees. Like 0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.960 they'll see a certain player and they'll see them this guy, 0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:48.960 we find him very, very valuable to us. He has 0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:52.440 what we are looking for, but the general public, the 0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:55.400 fan base, and all the critics out there see it 0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:58.040 completely different and have a different perspective. So it's going 0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:01.200 to be interesting to see how a ligne those two 0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:05.000 views could potentially be this time around as opposed to 0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:08.680 previous years, and where they find that value at Nick, 0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:11.040 I'm gonna go towards you since you were there at 0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:13.360 the combine, what were some of the things that stood 0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:15.440 out to you the most during last week? 0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:19.759 Yeah, Jerry not talking was definitely interesting. I think you 0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:21.840 know when you pair that with he didn't talk in 0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.560 Las Colinas at the Winter meetings back in December, and 0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:26.560 then he didn't talk at the Senior Bowl and mobile 0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:31.160 granted he didn't make the trip. He's just been abnormally quiet. 0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.399 But he'll talk today at the Zach Martin presser, whether 0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:36.200 it be during or after week why do you think 0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:36.800 that happened? 0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:37.680 What do you think that is. 0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:39.480 I'm not gonna read too much into it. I've been 0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:41.520 asked a million times by it. I'm not gonna read 0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:44.200 too much into it. I can only take from what 0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:46.239 I know that has been communicated by the staff, and 0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:48.279 that this staff has been working over time since they 0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.399 got in the building to catch up on twenty twenty 0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:52.319 four season film, trying to figure out what they have 0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:54.880 in the building, because all these guys came from different places, 0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:56.239 so they're all trying to figure out what the team 0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:59.439 is actually here. That goes with the front office as well. 0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:03.600 So I do buy to a certain extent that these 0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:06.680 guys have been working like crazy to catch up and 0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.680 get ready for free agency. But also on that same token, 0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:13.120 Jerry has been knowing to talk in more stressful situations. 0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:15.000 So I don't know, we'll see. I guess we'll find 0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:17.080 out today. Maybe they wanted to wait until this Osa 0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:19.279 Diggyzy what a deal was done. I mean, when you 0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:21.040 look at it and it's super team friendly. Maybe they 0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:22.799 were telling Jerry like, hey, you don't say anything, because 0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:24.160 we think we can get a pretty good deal out 0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:26.279 of this. You know, maybe that's maybe that's part of it, 0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:28.800 but nevertheless, we'll we'll hear from them today. 0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:31.040 Yeah, I'm I'm just gonna go on this approach. I'm 0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:33.040 really disappointed he didn't get to talk on the bus 0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:34.600 because I learned a ton on that bus. 0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:35.880 Yeah, me too, I learned. 0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:38.600 I think Jerry's in a very relaxed state. 0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:42.879 I think he has the guys the gals around him 0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:46.440 in that bus that covered this team on a daily basis, 0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:49.360 that live with this team, and you know, guys and 0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:53.120 gals did he honestly he trusts, and so you get 0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:56.360 a very honest and open conversation. I think the questions 0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:58.840 are excellent that come out of there. I remember working 0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.080 here with Dallas Cowboys Dot and when we'd post that, 0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:04.640 and how much I enjoyed watching that, you know, because 0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:07.000 I felt like I got something out of that. And 0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.640 you know, maybe we're a point in time now where 0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:12.840 there's folks out there that complain about how much that 0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:15.719 Jerry Jones talks too much. You know, maybe we're in 0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:17.600 this new era now where we're not going to get 0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:19.880 ninety minutes on a bus anymore. We're gonna have to 0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:24.000 wait and maybe get fifteen to twenty minutes after an 0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:27.520 announcement of a retirement. So that part of it I 0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:31.000 think I really don't like because the bust part of it, 0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:34.279 to me, I learned a lot about this football team 0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:36.960 even working here, I learned a lot from where those 0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.520 questions came from those guys and gals. I'm disappointed we 0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:40.239 didn't get to see that. 0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:44.080 Yeah, I think for the media, obviously, it's a missed 0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:47.279 opportunity because how often do you get to sit down 0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:51.000 with he's the best head coaching, a GM an owner 0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:55.560 anywhere around the league and have real conversational out what's 0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:57.200 going on. And by the way, some of that's off 0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:59.560 the record stuff ar that doesn't ever get published, but 0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:03.040 it doesn't form the media on kind of the thought 0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:04.600 process of things that are going on. So I know 0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:06.919 from the media standpoint, that's a big miss for them, 0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.640 and a lot of those folks go down there specifically 0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:11.200 for the purpose of they know they're gonna have that 0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.759 time with Jerry. So from that standpoint, I think it's 0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.560 a miss. But the one thing I also think I 0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:19.759 know about Jerry is I don't think Jerry runs from controversy. 0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:22.759 He doesn't run from season, had season wasn't what it 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.359 wanted to be they wanted it to be. He doesn't 0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:26.800 run from those kinds of situations. So I can trust 0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:28.600 the fact that if it didn't work out from a 0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:31.680 scheduling standpoint, that it didn't work out from a scheduling standpoint, 0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:34.600 it wasn't some reason like Jerry doesn't want to talk, 0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:37.200 Like I have never known Jerry not to want to talk. 0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:42.120 When it comes down to being accountable and speaking, he doesn't. 0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:43.799 You know, you might not always like what he has 0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:44.520 to say. 0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:46.880 But he's never He's never shown me that he's afraid 0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.239 to get out there and actually take the questions and 0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.440 answer them. So I just take it as hey, schedules 0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:53.600 are are what they are. 0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:57.239 Getting advised to. I might be getting advised to. 0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:00.879 You know, there's it might be getting advised you know, hey, 0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:03.200 let's control it this way and not control it in 0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.280 a way we're trying to hide anything. But you know, time, 0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.520 like I say, ninety minutes of Jerry Jones sitting in 0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:13.480 that environment is great, you know, twenty minutes of it, 0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:15.480 you feel like, did I get all my questions in? 0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:16.000 You know? 0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:20.000 So maybe there's maybe there's some purpose here of trying 0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:23.359 to kind of limit some time to the access there. 0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:28.520 I know we had Brian Schottenheimer. He also spot spoke 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:32.000 during that time at the NFL Combine and there were 0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:34.600 some interesting things that he talked about, and I think 0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:38.160 he the way he communicates everything sounds very promising at 0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:41.080 the moment. One of the things that he communicated was 0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:45.080 this whole switch potential switch that could happen in the 0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:47.480 O line, and we kind of discussed that earlier, but 0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:51.080 wanted to get a further opinion on this topic about 0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.359 when you start talking about do you want to move 0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:56.359 Cooper Bebee and what do you do with these other 0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:59.800 guys and moving guys around, and we know, like Brad Hoffman, 0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:02.839 he also has that flexibility. What are your thoughts on 0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:06.719 what sounds the best at the moment? And I know 0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:09.879 we mentioned the potential of them adding somebody else through 0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:13.160 the draft, but in the meantime, with these guys, how 0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:14.120 do you see their future? 0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:17.120 Yeah, I think my opinion and from what I know 0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:19.839 the team's opinion is I think it's probably the same 0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:22.439 in the sense that keeping Cooper BB at center after 0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:24.799 the year that he had in twenty twenty four is 0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:28.160 probably the best route, just because he grew and learned 0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:31.320 and trained at that position throughout his entire rookie season 0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:33.759 from the word go, and then you would throw him 0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:36.480 back at guard. Granted, he had three years of experience 0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:38.000 there at Kansas State, so it's not like it would 0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.440 be something completely foreign to him, but making that transition 0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.160 at the NFL level a little bit more difficult. If 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:46.440 it were me, I'm keeping Cooper BB at center, finding 0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:48.600 an interior guy in the draft that maybe has some 0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:51.520 flexibility as well in case there is injury that pops 0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:54.560 up in that interior, but trusting that BB is the 0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:55.480 center of the future. 0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.719 I like the fact that they used him for a year. 0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:01.600 I'm interested, though. I would love to talk to Connor Riley, 0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:05.959 the offensive line coach, about this, and would Connor Riley 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:08.279 walk in there and say, yeah, you guys played him 0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.759 at center, but he'd be an All Pro guard. You know, 0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:12.839 he's coached this kid, he knows this kid. 0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:13.040 Man. 0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:15.560 Why didn't Kansas State playhim at center and it played 0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:17.440 him ac guard? Because he was you know, he was 0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:20.239 an all Big twelve type of a player, you know, 0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:23.120 all American type of a player. So I would be 0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:26.160 really interested to think if Connor Riley came in here 0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:29.640 and said, you know, if you had somebody you felt really, 0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:31.920 really really good about at center, or this was a 0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:34.480 draft like of you know last year, where there were 0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:37.040 centers in it and you could draft a guy. I mean, 0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:39.920 I don't know about Nick. I'm struggling to find a 0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:42.240 center right now in this draft. I can't. 0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:43.839 I'm I mean not to the point. 0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:45.239 I'd love to be able to say, Okay, I'm gonna 0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:47.000 pick this guy and then I'm gonna plug him in 0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:48.759 and I'm gonna put Cooper b b at right guard 0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:51.000 and away we go. But I would be interested in 0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:53.319 asking Connor Riley about that if, like, man, do you 0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.040 feel like he could really be this good of a 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:56.920 center or do you think he's an all pro guard 0:43:57.160 --> 0:43:58.320 something to kind of keep an eye on. 0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:00.880 Yeah, And quite frankly, I wouldn't have I wouldn't go 0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:04.400 into this offseason thinking anybody has a secured spot on 0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:06.920 this offensive line. I'm going to mass as many offensive 0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:08.120 line and as I can get, and then I'm going 0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:10.240 to figure out the best place to put them based 0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:12.200 upon what they want to do. What we know, or 0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:14.840 at least what we've heard and what we've seen is 0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:17.319 this going to be a different kind of offensive line 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:19.319 because they're going to have a different kind of running game. 0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:21.640 So let's just get all the cards and then you'll 0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:23.920 arrange them. And I think that's more how I look 0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:25.920 at it. I don't think Bbe should be penciled in 0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.320 as your starting center as much as he's an offensive 0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:29.839 line and he's going to be starting, where's the best 0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:31.480 place to put him? Based on everybody else you have 0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:31.919 as well? 0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:34.279 Well, we have to end the show on time. If 0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:36.560 you guys are watching live, please don't go anywhere. In 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.160 just fifteen minutes, Psig Martin is going to start with 0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:43.040 his press conference where he announces his retirement. Already, a 0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:45.399 bunch of players are showing up over some of those names. 0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:49.279 There, oh a lot of the oddish, and Frederick and 0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:52.239 Tyron Smith Van Tyron Smith, a lot of guys. 0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.359 Obviously she's had, really he's had. 0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:56.600 There's a lot of guys going to come and pay respect. 0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:58.880 So let's hope not to cry, at least me. But 0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:02.399 this is a just stay around and watch that live. 0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:05.600 Thank you guys so much for tuning in for Nick Harris. 0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:07.880 How Nick Harris, I'm. 0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.840 Not used to doing the bye for Nick Harris, Brian Bars, 0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:15.239 Derek Eagleton. This is terrible. 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