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Speaker 6: Were with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris and
Speaker 6: Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 7: Hello, guys, welcome back to the Break presented by LG.
Speaker 7: We are back here with the full crew. I am
Speaker 7: hosting today despite Derek being here. He decided to what
Speaker 7: do they say, throwing the towel or whatever today, but
Speaker 7: I'm taking over. But no, no, this last two days,
Speaker 7: y'all have been working on a very exciting pro that's
Speaker 7: gonna come out later on. So that's something to look
Speaker 7: forward to, something very very exciting for all the fans
Speaker 7: out there. In the meantime, this week and last week
Speaker 7: was very very busy, and especially yesterday, a lot of
Speaker 7: new signings and all that. We'll get to the combine
Speaker 7: and what happened over there, but wanted to start off
Speaker 7: with the main thing that's happening later today. Zach Martin.
Speaker 7: He's gonna hold his press conference for his official announcement
Speaker 7: of his retirement, which is tears under my eyes. But
Speaker 7: that's gonna be happening live at eleven am this morning,
Speaker 7: so right after the show, you guys can tune in
Speaker 7: on Dallas Cowboys dot com and watch that. So for now,
Speaker 7: we're gonna go ahead and talk about Osa, the first
Speaker 7: contract that came out. Initially, it was expected or talks
Speaker 7: were going around that the Cowboys could potentially franchise tag him,
Speaker 7: but they ended up working out a deal and signed yesterday.
Speaker 7: And the total deal is for four years and a
Speaker 7: total of eighty million dollars and with fifty two million guarantee. Nick,
Speaker 7: since you're looking right at me, let's start with you
Speaker 7: and in your opinions and thoughts on this contract that
Speaker 7: the Cowboys were able to do with a key player
Speaker 7: in the defense.
Speaker 8: Yeah, when I went to bed on Monday night, I
Speaker 8: was preparing for a franchise tag situation because obviously yesterday
Speaker 8: was the deadline at three pm Central time to get
Speaker 8: a franchise tag done. And what that would have basically
Speaker 8: done for the Cowboys is it would have put a
Speaker 8: placeholder on Osa to guzero for the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 8: And it still would have allowed them continue those long
Speaker 8: term negotiations for a long term deal going into the future.
Speaker 8: But it also in some ways kind of would have
Speaker 8: set a floor at twenty five million, because that's what
Speaker 8: that franchise tag was. So if you're looking at from
Speaker 8: the team's perspective, there's some urgency to get that done
Speaker 8: before the franchise tag, and that's what they did. And fans,
Speaker 8: if y'all do, if y'all did not like Osa to
Speaker 8: Guzuo before, I think y'all should a little bit more
Speaker 8: coming into today because this is a team friendly deal.
Speaker 8: At the end of the day, this is four years,
Speaker 8: eighty million dollars. Had he waited until free agency and
Speaker 8: had he been able to push that into March twelfth
Speaker 8: and still been on the open market at that time,
Speaker 8: he could have gotten nine figures out of this ordeal.
Speaker 8: There were teams that were expected to show high interest
Speaker 8: in him, teams that need a defensive tackle, but also
Speaker 8: Digizua wanted to stay in Dallas, and there was a
Speaker 8: thought around the organization when the season ended, it was like,
Speaker 8: hey man, we've loved having you around here, but we
Speaker 8: don't think we can afford you. He's like hoh, wait up,
Speaker 8: but let's see what we can work out something. And
Speaker 8: sure enough they're able to work out something. Also, Digiz
Speaker 8: do a big time team friendly deal and on top
Speaker 8: of that, it's only a six point twenty five million
Speaker 8: dollar cap hit in twenty twenty five. That is massive,
Speaker 8: massive in a good way. It allows this team to
Speaker 8: do a lot of things. It allows them to walk
Speaker 8: through a lot of doors, a lot of doors that
Speaker 8: they walked through yesterday.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I think that this goes to show you, though, when
Speaker 9: you have an agent that will work with you, and
Speaker 9: that's really the most important thing. It always is about
Speaker 9: a two way street. Sometimes you catch agents that are
Speaker 9: you know, they're really like, listen, we got to do this.
Speaker 9: We got to make sure that we got all these
Speaker 9: things covered. Not that Osa's agent wasn't prepared and ready
Speaker 9: and they had an idea, but you do. If you
Speaker 9: have a very good working relationship with an agent, you
Speaker 9: can do a lot of good things. And so they
Speaker 9: caught a good one on this one. So that's very
Speaker 9: very fortunate. We've had some here lately though, where they're
Speaker 9: very good agents, but they are going to try and
Speaker 9: get everything they can out of the deal and you know,
Speaker 9: the player has to also be able to step in
Speaker 9: and say what his desire is to be able to
Speaker 9: do so good for the agent, good for Osa, good
Speaker 9: for the Cowboys getting that all done. And this is
Speaker 9: obviously a player that Matt eberflu says, these coaches have
Speaker 9: come into the building. Matt Eberflus a disciple, if you
Speaker 9: want to say, of Rod Marinelli, the three technique is
Speaker 9: very very important to his defense, to his scheme, and
Speaker 9: he felt like that Osa was.
Speaker 4: A big, big part of that.
Speaker 9: It's interesting from a scouting perspective as Nick and I
Speaker 9: work on the draft, is this is a really really
Speaker 9: deep class when it comes to one technique's three technique.
Speaker 9: So maybe you're sitting there thinking, wow, man, with it's
Speaker 9: being so deep, why would they Well, it just shows
Speaker 9: you that Ibra Flu's you know, the staff felt like
Speaker 9: that this player was more important than any other player
Speaker 9: that could be on that board that they're going to
Speaker 9: take in this draft. Not I think they're still going
Speaker 9: to take defensive tackles, but it kind of it kind
Speaker 9: of puts them in a little bit different direction this
Speaker 9: time around.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think Brian, when I when I look at
Speaker 10: it from that perspective. The one thing I think about
Speaker 10: is there are a number of positions that I think
Speaker 10: the Dallas Cowboys going to have to address this offseason.
Speaker 5: This just gives them one.
Speaker 10: Less option, one less position that they have that they
Speaker 10: have to address in the draft. It doesn't mean they
Speaker 10: may not find a player that they like in the
Speaker 10: draft at the defensive tackle position, but it's one less
Speaker 10: position that they have to address. We know there are
Speaker 10: going to be other positions that are very important for
Speaker 10: them to address. He threw either through free agents or
Speaker 10: through the draft or both. This just gives them a
Speaker 10: little bit of clearance. And I'll tell you this, I
Speaker 10: think we all agreed on this show. There were two
Speaker 10: players and you guys may even have more. But for me,
Speaker 10: there were two players going into this offseaing and I
Speaker 10: felt offseason that I felt like it was important Dallas
Speaker 10: to resign if possible.
Speaker 5: One of them is also diggi Zoo.
Speaker 10: I think that's a huge win, a huge get for
Speaker 10: them to keep him, and especially at the price that
Speaker 10: they got him. But in addition to that, I think
Speaker 10: if they can get something done with Jordan Lewis, then
Speaker 10: to me, I look at this offseason I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 10: they kept the guys they needed to keep. Now we'll
Speaker 10: see what other guys they can go out and maybe
Speaker 10: improve their team with in free agency, and then what
Speaker 10: are they do in the draft, And let's see if
Speaker 10: they can get the right talent put together for this
Speaker 10: team in order for them to compete more favorably this
Speaker 10: year than they did last year.
Speaker 7: Well, moving on to the second guy that they were
Speaker 7: able to agree to terms with. I don't believe he's
Speaker 7: signed yet, but they've agreed on something. It's a one
Speaker 7: year deal with CJ. Goodwin, a guy that's also very
Speaker 7: much a key player to not only like the defense,
Speaker 7: but also the special teams. He does a lot on
Speaker 7: that side. He's not a flashy player, but someone that
Speaker 7: does serve a lot of good What are your thoughts
Speaker 7: on this deal and what he brings to this new
Speaker 7: set of coaches, Bryan.
Speaker 4: You know, I've had my issues with c J.
Speaker 9: Goodwin and and it's it's well known, and you know,
Speaker 9: I felt like that this was always a core special
Speaker 9: teams player for one specific coach. Coach is no longer
Speaker 9: here with us, you know, it's and I don't mean
Speaker 9: that as a goodbye you know rip thing. I mean
Speaker 9: that he's now with the Tennessee Titans with bones fossil,
Speaker 9: and so to me, I was I was a little
Speaker 9: bit surprised that maybe that that combination didn't show up
Speaker 9: in Nashville.
Speaker 4: Uh. It just shows you that C. J.
Speaker 9: Goodwin wants to be here, he likes to be here,
Speaker 9: and you know he's comfortable being here, and so uh yeah,
Speaker 9: it's uh. Schottenheimer has a a history with him just
Speaker 9: for him being on the staff. So he understands, Uh,
Speaker 9: we'll see with Nick Sours and the new SEC, the
Speaker 9: new excimy special teams coach, he might have been watching
Speaker 9: tape and saying, listen, Goodwin is a good player. We
Speaker 9: can use him, is how we'll use him. But yeah,
Speaker 9: once again, another one year deal, another friendly type of
Speaker 9: a deal. But I'm always looking to kind of upgrade
Speaker 9: that position.
Speaker 8: I think if we're looking at it from a training
Speaker 8: camp perspective and we're trying to keep an eye on
Speaker 8: who's going to be the starting gunners on punt team
Speaker 8: and who's gonna be those guys running down guys on
Speaker 8: kick team, I think Jalen Brooks and Marquise Bell have
Speaker 8: done more than enough to earn some credit in that respect.
Speaker 8: So is it, you know, maybe a situation where CJ.
Speaker 8: Goodwin's fighting for a job at training camp. You know,
Speaker 8: that's that's probably a question.
Speaker 9: He had a sponsor before he had a sponsor. I
Speaker 9: don't know if he has a sponsor here or he's going.
Speaker 8: To be thirty five years old next year. You wonder
Speaker 8: about that, but they're at least going to give him
Speaker 8: that shot.
Speaker 10: I have a question for you, guys, do you think
Speaker 10: the day of the special team's ace, the guy that
Speaker 10: makes the team only because of what he does in
Speaker 10: special teams on special teams has changed a bit with
Speaker 10: the new rules around kick return with the kickoff, because
Speaker 10: there you don't need the guy that can run to
Speaker 10: get downfield and get to the ball. Like still the punts,
Speaker 10: it's still you still need your gunners. But is it
Speaker 10: a situation where, because there is less opportunity for them
Speaker 10: to really make impact, now you're more concerned about giving
Speaker 10: that spot to someone who is just a special team's
Speaker 10: ace versus saying, can my fourth wide receiver, fifth wide receiver,
Speaker 10: Can my fourth cornerback fifth cornerback actually play that role
Speaker 10: really well? And that's because they can do something else
Speaker 10: pretty well, it's more valuable to have that than have
Speaker 10: a special team case.
Speaker 9: Well, Steven Jones and the Competition committee meeting in Indianapolis
Speaker 9: is talking about the kickoff rules again, and well, you know,
Speaker 9: are they saying, hey, instead of putting the ball in
Speaker 9: the twenty five, what if we put the ball in
Speaker 9: the thirty five? Are we going to encourage you to
Speaker 9: keep kicking it in the end zone? And if you're
Speaker 9: playing against somebody like Turpin, Yeah, you know, having the
Speaker 9: ball at the thirty five is better than having it
Speaker 9: at the forty five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, kind of a thing. So yeah, I think,
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 9: This is one of those times where you look at
Speaker 9: it and you know, you say, yeah, that might not
Speaker 9: mean as much, but the league is trying to force
Speaker 9: kickoff returns, and you know, the Cowboys had some really
Speaker 9: good success with their kickoff returns, so I would be
Speaker 9: encouraged that way. But I also, you're gonna have to
Speaker 9: start to cover kicks too, and you can't have the
Speaker 9: ball starting off at midfield, so you're gonna have to
Speaker 9: have some guys that are able to to to do
Speaker 9: those those coverage things.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know you need.
Speaker 9: But maybe it's too To your point, Derek, is that
Speaker 9: you need to find running backs that can play special teams.
Speaker 9: You need to find receivers that can play special teams.
Speaker 9: You need to you you are taking up a roster spot,
Speaker 9: and you are taking up a roster spot on the
Speaker 9: game day active, so to have you know, to have
Speaker 9: a you know, the Cowboys for a while there, it
Speaker 9: seems like they haven't had running backs that have played
Speaker 9: special teams.
Speaker 4: You know. You look at with Zeke and others.
Speaker 9: I mean, uh, even with uh with you know, with
Speaker 9: yeah exactly Cook, you know, even even with Douce.
Speaker 8: Vaughan, they tried.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So what I'm saying it's, you know, if you if
Speaker 9: you're if your roster is set up in a way
Speaker 9: where you don't have receivers and running backs and others
Speaker 9: playing that position, you're going to have to have one
Speaker 9: or two guys be specialists.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 7: Well, if it was with CJ, I think he feels
Speaker 7: a position that would have been filled through free agency
Speaker 7: with another player. So it's like kind of getting about
Speaker 7: the same thing that you would have found maybe through
Speaker 7: free agency with someone else. But in this instance, you
Speaker 7: get somebody that already has been here and you get
Speaker 7: to keep working with him and coaching him under a
Speaker 7: different voice. So potentially it could be a lot better
Speaker 7: for him this year and what he can bring to
Speaker 7: the table.
Speaker 10: Well, let me also say real quick, I want to
Speaker 10: say this about CJ. I think this last year to
Speaker 10: me was a little different than what he's been to
Speaker 10: this point. There was a time when you'd see CJ
Speaker 10: on on these these these special teams type plays, what
Speaker 10: he was consistently the man downfield making the tackle consistently.
Speaker 10: I mean almost every single time. He had the speed,
Speaker 10: he had the facility, yeah, all that that it takes
Speaker 10: to get down there and get in and make the tackle.
Speaker 10: This last year, I think is the first time I
Speaker 10: started to see a little crack in that. And my
Speaker 10: question is just it was that where we're starting to
Speaker 10: see a little bit of age or what we just
Speaker 10: seeing a year where maybe it just wasn't his best year.
Speaker 10: And it doesn't mean he was a slouch. I don't
Speaker 10: think there were situations where he wasn't down there. It
Speaker 10: just wasn't like every single time he's the guy making
Speaker 10: the play. If you're going to be the special teams ace,
Speaker 10: you kind of want to see it every single time, right,
Speaker 10: because you're taking a spot only for that purpose. But
Speaker 10: my interest is in seeing was last year in aberration
Speaker 10: or was that kind of the beginning of the decline
Speaker 10: that happens with every player.
Speaker 9: I kind of felt like I saw more penalies than
Speaker 9: I did tackles. You know, if he had like he
Speaker 9: had four or five penalties. You know, if your guys
Speaker 9: the special teams ace, I don't think you can work
Speaker 9: through four or five penalties a game on that guy.
Speaker 7: Fair point. To close off the all the signings that
Speaker 7: occurred yesterday, let's talk about brock Hoffman. He's another one
Speaker 7: who was set to become an exclusive rights free agent
Speaker 7: and the Cowboys ended up working out the deal. Signing
Speaker 7: the deal with him, what I mean to me, that's
Speaker 7: like a sign of relief. You get it said done.
Speaker 7: Today we know that Zach Martin is announcing his retirement
Speaker 7: and he's the top candidate to become the one taking
Speaker 7: over the position. There're still talks about what's going to
Speaker 7: happen if you're moving out guys, what's gonna happen with
Speaker 7: Cooper Bebe in the center.
Speaker 8: But what does this mean for the Cowboys?
Speaker 7: Knowing that they have now brock Kaffman set.
Speaker 8: I mean, if you look at it, he's a leader
Speaker 8: in the clubhouse as far as the guys that they
Speaker 8: do have in the building that could be a potential
Speaker 8: replacement at right guard for Zach Martin. They're gonna go
Speaker 8: get an interior guy in this draft. Sure. Is it
Speaker 8: going to be early, is it gonna be late? Who knows.
Speaker 8: You're also getting Nathan Thomas back from injury. You haven't
Speaker 8: seen what he could do in that interior offensive line.
Speaker 8: You also factor in Awesome Richards. You know, he a
Speaker 8: guy that they maybe want to slide back inside and
Speaker 8: see what he can do with that spot. There's gonna
Speaker 8: be a lot of moving around. TJ. Bass too. I'd
Speaker 8: be remiss if I didn't mention him. But brock Hoffman
Speaker 8: is the leader in the clubhouse with those guys. I mean,
Speaker 8: he started seven games last year. He started at center,
Speaker 8: he started at right guard. I mean he played so
Speaker 8: well at center that the conversation has been brought up about, Okay,
Speaker 8: do you move Cooper bv back to guard and do
Speaker 8: you put Hoffman at center? And so this is a
Speaker 8: really important guy to bring back. He's kind of the
Speaker 8: sixth man of that offensive line at worst, and those
Speaker 8: six men they certainly get paid. You know, call him
Speaker 8: the Jamal Crawford of this offensive line. I'd take him
Speaker 8: every day of the week.
Speaker 4: Explain who Jamal Crawford is for everybody out there.
Speaker 8: One of the best six man of all time.
Speaker 9: There you go, yeah, you know to me, I have
Speaker 9: a lot of respect for brock Hoffman, and I think
Speaker 9: he played a lot better than I even thought he
Speaker 9: could play. Don't want to play brock Hoffman for seventeen weeks, No,
Speaker 9: I really don't. I think where he plays very well
Speaker 9: is if he's a five or six game guy and
Speaker 9: he could step in he's quality depth that way. I
Speaker 9: think Nick's absolutely right. I do think that they're going
Speaker 9: to look for a guard here, and it could be
Speaker 9: very very early in this draft. So I would be
Speaker 9: very mindful and aware of that. If you follow the
Speaker 9: draft show, we've been talking about a lot about these
Speaker 9: offensive linemen. We've been talking about tackles that could play guard.
Speaker 9: But you know, if you listen to the conversations though,
Speaker 9: coming out of the combine, it was like they were
Speaker 9: pretty much talking about this offensive line, and even Brian
Speaker 9: Schottenheimer was talking about Tyler Geidton and you know stuff
Speaker 9: like that. So obviously they have an understanding of who
Speaker 9: they are.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 9: But I could definitely see him adding more pieces, and
Speaker 9: I could see him adding a piece at right guard.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I would say brock Kaufman is he He is
Speaker 10: a player that I think allows them to also be
Speaker 10: able to draft best player available. And what I mean
Speaker 10: by that is and they talk about this a lot.
Speaker 10: They try in free agency and in signing their own
Speaker 10: guys to be able to free themselves up on up
Speaker 10: on draft data where there is no position they have
Speaker 10: to draft at any particular time. That allows them to
Speaker 10: be more savvy on draft day because teams ahead of
Speaker 10: them and teams behind them don't know exactly what they're
Speaker 10: going to have to do at a specific spot. So
Speaker 10: this to me is just you get a guy. He's
Speaker 10: great for depth if you need to start him because
Speaker 10: the draft just doesn't fall to you in that way,
Speaker 10: you feel like you could be okay there. So I
Speaker 10: think that this signing is as much about the draft
Speaker 10: and giving themselves the opportunity to draft the best player
Speaker 10: available as anything else.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they could also be in the market for you know,
Speaker 9: there's gonna be names on the free agency list when
Speaker 9: that opens up, and you know, March twelfth, when that happens,
Speaker 9: we could start to talk about those names a.
Speaker 4: Little bit more freely.
Speaker 9: But there are some connected Dots players with with with
Speaker 9: Adams the line coach that and maybe a prominent free
Speaker 9: agent that he would like to have that is a guard.
Speaker 9: But we'll get to that on the March twelfth day.
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Speaker 7: salary cap around the NFL and what the Cowboys were
Speaker 7: able to do to CD's contract, being able to free
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Speaker 7: Thanks Chris okay uh. To other guys that I free
Speaker 7: ought to mention, they just recently pulled the trigger on
Speaker 7: that and it was a pretty is the same thing
Speaker 7: as Brod Hoffman because these other two guys were also
Speaker 7: exclusive rights free agents as well. We got Juania Thomas
Speaker 7: and then Tyres Wheat. Why can't you guys tell me
Speaker 7: about these two guys.
Speaker 8: Yeah, one year, Thomas, I think at worst is your
Speaker 8: eventual CJ could win replacement. I think at best is
Speaker 8: a guy who could legitimately play safety one day for
Speaker 8: this team. We've seen him get rotated in. Whenever Donovan
Speaker 8: Wilson's had some struggles in the past couple of years,
Speaker 8: or if there's been an injury to either him or
Speaker 8: Mollie Cooker. We've seen one Yea Thomas rotate in. He
Speaker 8: got a healthy amount of time last year towards the
Speaker 8: back half of the season. He's a guy you want
Speaker 8: to keep in this building for sure. Also for locker
Speaker 8: room camaraderie. I mean, he's a big energy in that
Speaker 8: locker room. Guys love him. And then tyros Whet just
Speaker 8: another rotational defensive end guy that they've had for the
Speaker 8: last couple of years. He was an undrafted free agent
Speaker 8: out Mississippi State in twenty twenty three, made his way
Speaker 8: out to the fifty three man roster both of these
Speaker 8: last two years. Hasn't really played a whole lot, but
Speaker 8: he's been really crucial on special teams. So a couple
Speaker 8: more special teams yield.
Speaker 7: Okay, well, let's go ahead and move on to the
Speaker 7: salary cap conversation. And before we get into that specifically,
Speaker 7: let's talk about what they did with City Lamps restructure.
Speaker 7: They restructure his contract and basically we're able to save
Speaker 7: the team twenty million dollars for twenty twenty five for
Speaker 7: this season this year. And those are pretty easy move that.
Speaker 7: You know, it doesn't mean that city is not getting
Speaker 7: his money. He's getting it. They're just pushing it down
Speaker 7: the line. Something that kind of made my eyes wide
Speaker 7: open is to see how much the salary cap has
Speaker 7: increased for this year. It went from two hundred and
Speaker 7: fifty five point four million dollars in cap to now
Speaker 7: at record setting two hundred and seventy nine point two million.
Speaker 7: You're making that face there like it's nothing. I mean,
Speaker 7: I see these numbers. I'm like, WHOA, where all these
Speaker 7: dollars coming from? Oh my god. Okay, but let's start
Speaker 7: with you, Derek White, open yeah, with your eyes wide open.
Speaker 7: What does this mean?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 7: What do you feel this does for the Cowboys with
Speaker 7: this year and what they were able to do and
Speaker 7: now figuring out ways to uh find room in the
Speaker 7: salary and create room in space.
Speaker 10: First of all, I thought this has always been expected
Speaker 10: that they were gonna they were going to do this.
Speaker 10: My expectations will probably do something similar with DK have to.
Speaker 10: But but the way I look at it is it's
Speaker 10: just giving them money to operate. They there's a lot
Speaker 10: of money that comes up the salary cap that has
Speaker 10: to happen with your draft picks. They want to have
Speaker 10: I assume a little money be able to sign obviously
Speaker 10: some of these guys that they want to keep, and
Speaker 10: then also my hope, my hope is that they're freeing
Speaker 10: up a little bit of money so they can get
Speaker 10: a little more active in free agency.
Speaker 5: I think after last season.
Speaker 10: I think the amount of players that they lost last year,
Speaker 10: we saw that the results of that. Once they started losing,
Speaker 10: guy's injury, and in this business, you have to be
Speaker 10: prepared for injury. And so the hope is that this
Speaker 10: year they go a little bit opposite of that. I
Speaker 10: don't expect them to be like, We're going out and
Speaker 10: getting all the greatest free agents out there, but I
Speaker 10: do expect it if they can get one or two
Speaker 10: guys that really can fill a specific role for them.
Speaker 10: Maybe it's a linebacker, maybe it's a running back, maybe
Speaker 10: it's a cornerback, guard, maybe it's a guard. I think
Speaker 10: there are some positions where you're like, they can go
Speaker 10: out and get a guy that is may not be
Speaker 10: the top of the market type guy, but a guy
Speaker 10: that certainly can be very solid for you at a
Speaker 10: certain position. Then I think they're freeing up the money
Speaker 10: to be able to give them Maybe that latitude to
Speaker 10: do it.
Speaker 5: That's at least my hope.
Speaker 4: Nick.
Speaker 9: I don't know if you've heard different from me on this,
Speaker 9: but I as much as they'd like to bottom fish
Speaker 9: at times for free agents, I heard that maybe the
Speaker 9: plan is to look at more the middle of the
Speaker 9: pack of the free agents. What Derek was talking about,
Speaker 9: not the you know, maybe not day one, maybe not
Speaker 9: jumping in there and making a massive pitch for somebody
Speaker 9: and trying to get that done, but maybe more about
Speaker 9: of the middle of the board, you know, maybe not
Speaker 9: sit out two weeks of it then all of a
Speaker 9: sudden jump in. Maybe it's maybe it's two or three
Speaker 9: days and then you jump in. I've kind of hearing
Speaker 9: some whispers that that might be the case, that they're
Speaker 9: more interested in looking at the middle of free agency.
Speaker 4: Than they are at the bottom.
Speaker 9: Not to say they're not going to try and do something,
Speaker 9: because they did some really some very good things you
Speaker 9: look at with Carl Lawson and what he was able
Speaker 9: to bring, but kind of down there, they're thinking about
Speaker 9: more of that middle, not maybe day one, day two,
Speaker 9: or day three, but start talking to us at day four,
Speaker 9: day five and go in that route. So that in
Speaker 9: self I think is a very encouraging way to go
Speaker 9: considering how things have gone here the last couple of years.
Speaker 8: I mean, if you look at it and the struggles
Speaker 8: that the Cowboys had highlighted last year with all the injuries,
Speaker 8: is that the depth wasn't ready to go, and so
Speaker 8: you can expect free agency to be an addressing of
Speaker 8: that depth as well as a draft class, and this
Speaker 8: definitely gives them the freedom to do so.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the one thing, and I don't know
Speaker 9: about you guys, the one thing that I've learned from
Speaker 9: watching Philadelphia is you have to be able to and
Speaker 9: we'd like to talk around here about twenty four to seven,
Speaker 9: you know, with the way you look at you know,
Speaker 9: player personnel. To me, the team in Philadelphia, they draft,
Speaker 9: they trade, and they signed free agents. I'm not saying
Speaker 9: you have to sign every single high free agent, but
Speaker 9: you can't just be in one of those areas. You know,
Speaker 9: they tell us, hey, we're a twenty four to seven
Speaker 9: group around here. Well you need to kind of catch
Speaker 9: up in that way. And maybe this is a change.
Speaker 9: Maybe we're going to see a more active and free agency.
Speaker 9: You know, they got on this early about getting Osa
Speaker 9: done you know, now we're starting to hear whispers. Nick's
Speaker 9: starting to report about, you know, Micah Parsons, and then
Speaker 9: potentially I would not be surprised if Nick writes a
Speaker 9: story and tells me about Deron Bland is going to
Speaker 9: be somebody that they're talking about getting done here. So
Speaker 9: being very proactive in that, playing in the middle of
Speaker 9: the of the.
Speaker 4: Free agency pool.
Speaker 9: Also having the flexibility and the ability to want to
Speaker 9: trade for players, I think you have to be proficient
Speaker 9: in all three of those. That's the one thing I
Speaker 9: learned from watching the Philadelphia Eagles build their team.
Speaker 10: Can I give you an example. I go back to
Speaker 10: the twenty twenty three offseason. To me, that was what
Speaker 10: I expect them to all right, at least I'm hoping
Speaker 10: that they're willing to do this year. They acquired Brandon Cooks,
Speaker 10: they acquired Stephan Gilmore, they a Chumway Doga, they acquired
Speaker 10: Ronald Jones. These were guys that were not top of
Speaker 10: the top line guys. They were guys that were kind
Speaker 10: of in the middle pack. And by the way, some
Speaker 10: of them didn't work out to be great players. Ronald
Speaker 10: Jones didn't really give them anything, but the point is
Speaker 10: they were active enough to where they were trying to
Speaker 10: fill holes and get guys that they thought, Hey, they're
Speaker 10: at a point in their career, let's see what they've got.
Speaker 10: Let's see if we can get something out of them.
Speaker 10: And I thought Stephan Gilmore played really well that year
Speaker 10: for the Cowboys, and Cooks has kind of been up
Speaker 10: and down, but I thought, by and large, again that's
Speaker 10: the kind of moves I want to see them make,
Speaker 10: is take a shot here and there, and you see
Speaker 10: how those play out.
Speaker 5: But in free agency it's always going to be a
Speaker 5: bit of a crapshoot.
Speaker 10: But I do think I'd like to see them a
Speaker 10: little more active like they were that year.
Speaker 8: Are you bringing Cooks back? No?
Speaker 5: I think I'm really I want to go to try another.
Speaker 8: I agree.
Speaker 5: I was just curious if there Yeah, no, would you
Speaker 5: would you go?
Speaker 10: Would you go all in on somebody like DeVante Adams
Speaker 10: who's been released now by the Jets?
Speaker 8: Probably not. I want a healthy Robin to see D's Batman,
Speaker 8: and I don't feel like that would be more so
Speaker 8: like too bad man's being in the room staring at
Speaker 8: each other.
Speaker 5: Is that not a bad thing?
Speaker 8: A good thing to be a bad thing.
Speaker 4: Could I convince you at thirteen million a year.
Speaker 8: For DeVante Adams? Can you get him at thirteen million
Speaker 8: a year?
Speaker 9: I'm just going to say that that he played really
Speaker 9: about twenty eight I believe it was last year. He's
Speaker 9: more of his value is if you look at the
Speaker 9: how his projections of numbers and stuff are potentially what
Speaker 9: he should earn or could earn. Thirteen million dollars seems
Speaker 9: to be the number that people are throwing out there.
Speaker 9: Maybe that's the thing that we want to look at.
Speaker 8: If it's thirteen million, Yeah, but I don't think it's
Speaker 8: going to be Yeah, I'll toe you this.
Speaker 9: I will say this though, And the more studies you
Speaker 9: did on say, for example, for OsO Diggi Zua, there
Speaker 9: was you know, over the cab does a thing the
Speaker 9: valuation of players. He was right around a twenty million
Speaker 9: dollars a year player for you last year what they
Speaker 9: signed him for twenty million dollars. So maybe there's maybe
Speaker 9: some of these agents are realizing, Okay, this is the
Speaker 9: value Adams is he Is.
Speaker 4: He a thirty five million dollar year player? Absolutely not?
Speaker 9: Is he a twenty five million dollars a year player?
Speaker 9: Absolutely not is he a fifth Is he a thirteen
Speaker 9: to fifteen million dollar player? Okay, now we're talking. Now,
Speaker 9: we're talking about things. So to me, if that's the
Speaker 9: number and they want to do it, and they want
Speaker 9: to do it for just a couple of years something
Speaker 9: like that or a year, I would absolutely kick the
Speaker 9: tires on that one.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I don't want to kill a show idea because we're
Speaker 10: going to talk about this next week. We're going to
Speaker 10: dive into some of the names. But just go look
Speaker 10: at the number of names. The number like, there's a
Speaker 10: lot of big time wide receivers that will be available
Speaker 10: in free agency this year when that happened, and there's
Speaker 10: always a chance that that drives the price down. It's
Speaker 10: simple to ply and demand, right, If you have a
Speaker 10: lot of something, then typically the price is going to
Speaker 10: be less expensive than if you.
Speaker 5: Only have a few.
Speaker 10: And and I think that could help you to your point, Brian,
Speaker 10: of thinking about all those things and what he may
Speaker 10: end up costing. It may end up being driven down
Speaker 10: by all the guys that are available.
Speaker 5: At for you age.
Speaker 8: It's a similar conversation if you flip it to the
Speaker 8: running backs, because there's not a lot and then you
Speaker 8: look at a guy like Rigo Dawdle, he's probably gonna
Speaker 8: get paid more than what he would have been a
Speaker 8: safe He was a free agent last year.
Speaker 10: A those running backs last year, they all a lot
Speaker 10: of them took took deals that were not as big
Speaker 10: as they thought they were going to get six and
Speaker 10: then they all proved like they all went out involved
Speaker 10: and then now everybody's like, oh wow, man on art contract.
Speaker 10: Art did, Yeah, yeah, that was the highest running back
Speaker 10: in his head, twenty million dollars.
Speaker 8: They'll be paying him twenty million dollars in twenty twenty nine, which.
Speaker 2: Is twenty eight twenty Oh that it was a two
Speaker 2: year deal.
Speaker 8: So it was, but they added those two years on
Speaker 8: the end of Oh it's a weird eng Yes, so
Speaker 8: like basically it has four years left on his deal,
Speaker 8: but that money doesn't.
Speaker 5: Care howly be at that point, I don't know how.
Speaker 8: But I know that that cap is going to be shisty.
Speaker 4: They're not worried about that.
Speaker 2: For some reason.
Speaker 4: They don't worry. They're they're planning in a parade.
Speaker 10: Right.
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Speaker 5: Yeah it does.
Speaker 7: Yes, so okay. Free agency starts in March March twelve.
Speaker 7: And something that came out from the NFL combine. It
Speaker 7: was a two words that was going around a lot
Speaker 7: of social media. Stephen Jones, he was the first one
Speaker 7: to speak to the media and he mentioned that they
Speaker 7: were gonna be selectively aggressive during Bryan.
Speaker 4: We can print T shirts around this place. We could,
Speaker 4: we could do something.
Speaker 2: I guess that's now the that's now the spraise of the.
Speaker 7: Awesome selectively aggressive. But I mean they've started off. They
Speaker 7: started off good with preventing certain players from going and
Speaker 7: we just talked about them, and they tend to do
Speaker 7: this though, they tend to sign their own and they
Speaker 7: started doing so. But I want to ask you, guys,
Speaker 7: what does selectively aggressive means to you? What is your
Speaker 7: interpretation of these two words put together? That's what it
Speaker 7: means that the Cowboys are planning or attempting to do
Speaker 7: in this free agency.
Speaker 10: See, that's what gives me hope that when I said
Speaker 10: that they would be active this year in free agency
Speaker 10: where they have not been is I do think they're
Speaker 10: gonna find one or two guys that are gonna shock
Speaker 10: some people and be like, we're gonna go after those
Speaker 10: guys because we think we got value there.
Speaker 2: That's our hope, right. But there's your hope when you Yeah.
Speaker 10: But when you say selectively aggressive, that's what it says
Speaker 10: to me is we're not going to be the team's
Speaker 10: just gonna be out there just flinging money around, but
Speaker 10: we're going to find a couple players that we really love.
Speaker 5: That we're going to say, we're going to go in
Speaker 5: and we're going to make a We're going to make
Speaker 5: it happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I agree, We'll see who those players are.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Also think Zoo, I think is an example of them
Speaker 8: being selectively aggressive. They found a identification of a guy
Speaker 8: that they want to bring back, and they were aggressive
Speaker 8: in pursuing him. I think there could be a couple
Speaker 8: of more inside the building that they don't want to
Speaker 8: let hit free agency, so that would be selectively aggressive
Speaker 8: as well. But as as far as free agency goes,
Speaker 8: I think I'm with you, Brian as far as they'll
Speaker 8: probably go after these mid tier type guys and maybe
Speaker 8: that's where they're aggressive.
Speaker 4: I hope they're selectively right, right, that's key.
Speaker 9: There's been some times around here where they've kind of
Speaker 9: played and they've dipped their toe in those pools Derek
Speaker 9: mentioned and not come up well, so yeah, they need
Speaker 9: a they need a run here from their pro department,
Speaker 9: now for the most part, has done a pretty solid
Speaker 9: job for them, but they are going to need if
Speaker 9: they're going to be selective. That tells me they've got
Speaker 9: an ideas they're looking at their pro personnel board of guys.
Speaker 9: Maybe at the combine there's some of the best tampering
Speaker 9: you'll ever see in the league goes on there, but
Speaker 9: that's okay. You know, you get an idea of these
Speaker 9: agents and who might be out there and who might
Speaker 9: you know, want to come to you for the right
Speaker 9: price and stuff. So if they're going to be selective,
Speaker 9: please be selectively right as you're doing this, because you're
Speaker 9: probably gonna take maybe two three shots of this thing,
Speaker 9: you know, and you need those players to step in
Speaker 9: and play it at a play at a very high level.
Speaker 7: Well, what I was gonna say, like, yes, it sounds good,
Speaker 7: and I agree with everything that you guys said, But
Speaker 7: I think where they get you is that sometimes they
Speaker 7: see value differently than what the general public sees. Like
Speaker 7: they'll see a certain player and they'll see them this guy,
Speaker 7: we find him very, very valuable to us. He has
Speaker 7: what we are looking for, but the general public, the
Speaker 7: fan base, and all the critics out there see it
Speaker 7: completely different and have a different perspective. So it's going
Speaker 7: to be interesting to see how a ligne those two
Speaker 7: views could potentially be this time around as opposed to
Speaker 7: previous years, and where they find that value at Nick,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go towards you since you were there at
Speaker 7: the combine, what were some of the things that stood
Speaker 7: out to you the most during last week?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Jerry not talking was definitely interesting. I think you
Speaker 8: know when you pair that with he didn't talk in
Speaker 8: Las Colinas at the Winter meetings back in December, and
Speaker 8: then he didn't talk at the Senior Bowl and mobile
Speaker 8: granted he didn't make the trip. He's just been abnormally quiet.
Speaker 8: But he'll talk today at the Zach Martin presser, whether
Speaker 8: it be during or after week why do you think
Speaker 8: that happened?
Speaker 7: What do you think that is.
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna read too much into it. I've been
Speaker 8: asked a million times by it. I'm not gonna read
Speaker 8: too much into it. I can only take from what
Speaker 8: I know that has been communicated by the staff, and
Speaker 8: that this staff has been working over time since they
Speaker 8: got in the building to catch up on twenty twenty
Speaker 8: four season film, trying to figure out what they have
Speaker 8: in the building, because all these guys came from different places,
Speaker 8: so they're all trying to figure out what the team
Speaker 8: is actually here. That goes with the front office as well.
Speaker 8: So I do buy to a certain extent that these
Speaker 8: guys have been working like crazy to catch up and
Speaker 8: get ready for free agency. But also on that same token,
Speaker 8: Jerry has been knowing to talk in more stressful situations.
Speaker 8: So I don't know, we'll see. I guess we'll find
Speaker 8: out today. Maybe they wanted to wait until this Osa
Speaker 8: Diggyzy what a deal was done. I mean, when you
Speaker 8: look at it and it's super team friendly. Maybe they
Speaker 8: were telling Jerry like, hey, you don't say anything, because
Speaker 8: we think we can get a pretty good deal out
Speaker 8: of this. You know, maybe that's maybe that's part of it,
Speaker 8: but nevertheless, we'll we'll hear from them today.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm I'm just gonna go on this approach. I'm
Speaker 9: really disappointed he didn't get to talk on the bus
Speaker 9: because I learned a ton on that bus.
Speaker 8: Yeah, me too, I learned.
Speaker 4: I think Jerry's in a very relaxed state.
Speaker 9: I think he has the guys the gals around him
Speaker 9: in that bus that covered this team on a daily basis,
Speaker 9: that live with this team, and you know, guys and
Speaker 9: gals did he honestly he trusts, and so you get
Speaker 9: a very honest and open conversation. I think the questions
Speaker 9: are excellent that come out of there. I remember working
Speaker 9: here with Dallas Cowboys Dot and when we'd post that,
Speaker 9: and how much I enjoyed watching that, you know, because
Speaker 9: I felt like I got something out of that. And
Speaker 9: you know, maybe we're a point in time now where
Speaker 9: there's folks out there that complain about how much that
Speaker 9: Jerry Jones talks too much. You know, maybe we're in
Speaker 9: this new era now where we're not going to get
Speaker 9: ninety minutes on a bus anymore. We're gonna have to
Speaker 9: wait and maybe get fifteen to twenty minutes after an
Speaker 9: announcement of a retirement. So that part of it I
Speaker 9: think I really don't like because the bust part of it,
Speaker 9: to me, I learned a lot about this football team
Speaker 9: even working here, I learned a lot from where those
Speaker 9: questions came from those guys and gals. I'm disappointed we
Speaker 9: didn't get to see that.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think for the media, obviously, it's a missed
Speaker 10: opportunity because how often do you get to sit down
Speaker 10: with he's the best head coaching, a GM an owner
Speaker 10: anywhere around the league and have real conversational out what's
Speaker 10: going on. And by the way, some of that's off
Speaker 10: the record stuff ar that doesn't ever get published, but
Speaker 10: it doesn't form the media on kind of the thought
Speaker 10: process of things that are going on. So I know
Speaker 10: from the media standpoint, that's a big miss for them,
Speaker 10: and a lot of those folks go down there specifically
Speaker 10: for the purpose of they know they're gonna have that
Speaker 10: time with Jerry. So from that standpoint, I think it's
Speaker 10: a miss. But the one thing I also think I
Speaker 10: know about Jerry is I don't think Jerry runs from controversy.
Speaker 10: He doesn't run from season, had season wasn't what it
Speaker 10: wanted to be they wanted it to be. He doesn't
Speaker 10: run from those kinds of situations. So I can trust
Speaker 10: the fact that if it didn't work out from a
Speaker 10: scheduling standpoint, that it didn't work out from a scheduling standpoint,
Speaker 10: it wasn't some reason like Jerry doesn't want to talk,
Speaker 10: Like I have never known Jerry not to want to talk.
Speaker 10: When it comes down to being accountable and speaking, he doesn't.
Speaker 5: You know, you might not always like what he has
Speaker 5: to say.
Speaker 10: But he's never He's never shown me that he's afraid
Speaker 10: to get out there and actually take the questions and
Speaker 10: answer them. So I just take it as hey, schedules
Speaker 10: are are what they are.
Speaker 4: Getting advised to. I might be getting advised to.
Speaker 9: You know, there's it might be getting advised you know, hey,
Speaker 9: let's control it this way and not control it in
Speaker 9: a way we're trying to hide anything. But you know, time,
Speaker 9: like I say, ninety minutes of Jerry Jones sitting in
Speaker 9: that environment is great, you know, twenty minutes of it,
Speaker 9: you feel like, did I get all my questions in?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 9: So maybe there's maybe there's some purpose here of trying
Speaker 9: to kind of limit some time to the access there.
Speaker 7: I know we had Brian Schottenheimer. He also spot spoke
Speaker 7: during that time at the NFL Combine and there were
Speaker 7: some interesting things that he talked about, and I think
Speaker 7: he the way he communicates everything sounds very promising at
Speaker 7: the moment. One of the things that he communicated was
Speaker 7: this whole switch potential switch that could happen in the
Speaker 7: O line, and we kind of discussed that earlier, but
Speaker 7: wanted to get a further opinion on this topic about
Speaker 7: when you start talking about do you want to move
Speaker 7: Cooper Bebee and what do you do with these other
Speaker 7: guys and moving guys around, and we know, like Brad Hoffman,
Speaker 7: he also has that flexibility. What are your thoughts on
Speaker 7: what sounds the best at the moment? And I know
Speaker 7: we mentioned the potential of them adding somebody else through
Speaker 7: the draft, but in the meantime, with these guys, how
Speaker 7: do you see their future?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think my opinion and from what I know
Speaker 8: the team's opinion is I think it's probably the same
Speaker 8: in the sense that keeping Cooper BB at center after
Speaker 8: the year that he had in twenty twenty four is
Speaker 8: probably the best route, just because he grew and learned
Speaker 8: and trained at that position throughout his entire rookie season
Speaker 8: from the word go, and then you would throw him
Speaker 8: back at guard. Granted, he had three years of experience
Speaker 8: there at Kansas State, so it's not like it would
Speaker 8: be something completely foreign to him, but making that transition
Speaker 8: at the NFL level a little bit more difficult. If
Speaker 8: it were me, I'm keeping Cooper BB at center, finding
Speaker 8: an interior guy in the draft that maybe has some
Speaker 8: flexibility as well in case there is injury that pops
Speaker 8: up in that interior, but trusting that BB is the
Speaker 8: center of the future.
Speaker 9: I like the fact that they used him for a year.
Speaker 9: I'm interested, though. I would love to talk to Connor Riley,
Speaker 9: the offensive line coach, about this, and would Connor Riley
Speaker 9: walk in there and say, yeah, you guys played him
Speaker 9: at center, but he'd be an All Pro guard. You know,
Speaker 9: he's coached this kid, he knows this kid.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 9: Why didn't Kansas State playhim at center and it played
Speaker 9: him ac guard? Because he was you know, he was
Speaker 9: an all Big twelve type of a player, you know,
Speaker 9: all American type of a player. So I would be
Speaker 9: really interested to think if Connor Riley came in here
Speaker 9: and said, you know, if you had somebody you felt really,
Speaker 9: really really good about at center, or this was a
Speaker 9: draft like of you know last year, where there were
Speaker 9: centers in it and you could draft a guy. I mean,
Speaker 9: I don't know about Nick. I'm struggling to find a
Speaker 9: center right now in this draft. I can't.
Speaker 4: I'm I mean not to the point.
Speaker 9: I'd love to be able to say, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 9: pick this guy and then I'm gonna plug him in
Speaker 9: and I'm gonna put Cooper b b at right guard
Speaker 9: and away we go. But I would be interested in
Speaker 9: asking Connor Riley about that if, like, man, do you
Speaker 9: feel like he could really be this good of a
Speaker 9: center or do you think he's an all pro guard
Speaker 9: something to kind of keep an eye on.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And quite frankly, I wouldn't have I wouldn't go
Speaker 10: into this offseason thinking anybody has a secured spot on
Speaker 10: this offensive line. I'm going to mass as many offensive
Speaker 10: line and as I can get, and then I'm going
Speaker 10: to figure out the best place to put them based
Speaker 10: upon what they want to do. What we know, or
Speaker 10: at least what we've heard and what we've seen is
Speaker 10: this going to be a different kind of offensive line
Speaker 10: because they're going to have a different kind of running game.
Speaker 10: So let's just get all the cards and then you'll
Speaker 10: arrange them. And I think that's more how I look
Speaker 10: at it. I don't think Bbe should be penciled in
Speaker 10: as your starting center as much as he's an offensive
Speaker 10: line and he's going to be starting, where's the best
Speaker 10: place to put him? Based on everybody else you have
Speaker 10: as well?
Speaker 7: Well, we have to end the show on time. If
Speaker 7: you guys are watching live, please don't go anywhere. In
Speaker 7: just fifteen minutes, Psig Martin is going to start with
Speaker 7: his press conference where he announces his retirement. Already, a
Speaker 7: bunch of players are showing up over some of those names.
Speaker 10: There, oh a lot of the oddish, and Frederick and
Speaker 10: Tyron Smith Van Tyron Smith, a lot of guys.
Speaker 2: Obviously she's had, really he's had.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of guys going to come and pay respect.
Speaker 7: So let's hope not to cry, at least me. But
Speaker 7: this is a just stay around and watch that live.
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