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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have so many juicy

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Speaker 1: stories for you this week, so let's get started with

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Speaker 1: the story of the day. So this first story is

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Speaker 1: a little surprising to me because it's about this cold

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Speaker 1: weather related, you know, phenomenon that certain men are experiencing.

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Speaker 1: But we have yet to really see any glimpse of

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Speaker 1: winter where we live. Yeah, it's not really It's been

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Speaker 1: pretty mild so far this year. Yeah, I mean today

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Speaker 1: is sixty degrees, which is insane to me for a

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Speaker 1: mid November day. I mean, I would expect it to

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Speaker 1: be like mid to low fifties, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: In other parts of the world, men are getting warned

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Speaker 1: about this thing called winter penis. So why don't you

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Speaker 1: explain what that means. I love that this is article worthy.

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Speaker 1: It's just shrinkag So remember there was an episode of

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Speaker 1: Seinfeld back in the day that was talking about shrinkage

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Speaker 1: when he went in the pool or whatever. So it's

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Speaker 1: the same kind of thing when you get cold. We

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Speaker 1: talked about this when we were talking about frostbite or

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Speaker 1: something in a previous episode. I don't remember exactly what

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Speaker 1: case it was, but your body always wants to maintain

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Speaker 1: that warm ninety eight degrees. So when you're outside, you

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Speaker 1: start to get cold, and your body reacts by constricting

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Speaker 1: all of the blood vessels from your distal extremities, so

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Speaker 1: your penis or not that that's considered an extremity, but

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Speaker 1: things hanging off your body, your legs, your arms, And

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Speaker 1: this way it keeps all of the warm blood closer

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Speaker 1: to your heart to keep your torso warm. Because like

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Speaker 1: I said before, you really only need your torso in

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Speaker 1: your head to survive. You certainly don't need your penis

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Speaker 1: as well. So what happens is the blood flow is

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Speaker 1: restricted to the penis, and it could cause it to

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Speaker 1: shrink up to fifty percent, they're saying. And this is

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Speaker 1: especially a problem for men who have a rectile dysfunction

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Speaker 1: because they're having a lack of blood flow to the penis.

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Speaker 1: But don't worry. It only happens occasionally, it doesn't last long,

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Speaker 1: but certain people with the rectile this function could face

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Speaker 1: it for a longer period of time. But I have

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Speaker 1: this video in the gross room too, which I forget

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Speaker 1: that I forget what the title of it is, but

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Speaker 1: it's one of the very first posts that I ever

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Speaker 1: did in the Grosser Room back in twenty nineteen, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's a video showing this guy who's sitting there

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Speaker 1: with his balls hanging down and then they kind of

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Speaker 1: shrink up towards the body when this person's trying to

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Speaker 1: touch them, and it's just a very interesting The reason

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Speaker 1: that I'm saying this is because the testicles also shrink

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Speaker 1: up close to a man's body too as well when

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Speaker 1: he gets cold, because the sperm that are in there

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Speaker 1: need to say a certain temperature too, So that's just

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Speaker 1: the body's reaction of pulling get closer to the warm body.

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Speaker 1: But you could see it in this video in the

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Speaker 1: grossroom of the balls just kind of shrinking, like moving

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Speaker 1: up towards the body. So it's really interesting. I know

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Speaker 1: guys know what that is because they have that happened

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Speaker 1: into their bodies, but I just find it interesting that

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Speaker 1: we are constantly being bombarded with these articles about all

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Speaker 1: these different things that can happen to you know, penises,

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Speaker 1: but can things like this happen to women? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just I feel like how it's just we just

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Speaker 1: have a total totally different anatomic setup. Our our gonads

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Speaker 1: are like the same as testicles are inside of our body,

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Speaker 1: so they're always nestled and warm, So it's just not

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. Yeah, I just find it funny.

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Speaker 1: There's just always these stories about like all these things

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Speaker 1: get it. Your precious cargo is being affected by the

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Speaker 1: cold weather. We have another penis story later today too.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Okay. Celebrity news, Oh my god. Last week,

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Speaker 1: actress and writer Jenny Mullin she posted a video her

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Speaker 1: social media saying that she was on this five hour

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Speaker 1: flight and apparently in the middle of the flight, realized

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Speaker 1: she had lice. She I just cannot stand this person,

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Speaker 1: just by reading this article and seeing the pictures. I mean,

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Speaker 1: airplane sitting in first class and realized that she had LIFs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then she took this like plastic bag that the

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Speaker 1: don't know if these fancy people get like headphones for

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Speaker 1: It just seemed dramatic. And if you're not wrapping up

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Speaker 1: your whole head, what is it doing? Why would you

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Speaker 1: her disgusting and also a lot of people, which I

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Speaker 1: agree with there, like, if you just didn't say anything,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't be getting criticized for it because nobody would

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Speaker 1: know about it. Do you think these celebrities are so

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Speaker 1: just to get attention? I just can't imagine anyone in

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Speaker 1: going to get anything positive at all? Well, so at

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Speaker 1: first she didn't say I don't think she made it

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Speaker 1: quite clear that she just discovered at that point in

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Speaker 1: time that that's when she discovered she had lice, and

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Speaker 1: she also said that her head had been itching for

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Speaker 1: two weeks, which he thought it was due to perimenopause.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if itchings related to menopause symptoms at all.

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Speaker 1: But she doubled down when she posted another video saying

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Speaker 1: she just discovered at midflight and that everybody in her

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Speaker 1: two sons as well. I don't know who the others

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Speaker 1: were involved, but were they treated before she got on

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Speaker 1: the flight. I don't, I think afterwards, because you know,

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Speaker 1: her follow up video was like her getting the treatment

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Speaker 1: to her hair because I was reading it, like, okay,

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Speaker 1: so I've never personally had lice, but one time one

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Speaker 1: I think that's why people are freaking out so bad,

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Speaker 1: because it's absolutely hell in the whole entire household if

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Speaker 1: somebody gets it, because it's just this constant, revolving thing

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Speaker 1: of having it, thinking it went away. It didn't go away,

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Speaker 1: checking heads every day, throwing things out, washing things, treating things,

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Speaker 1: I think that that's why so many people don't want

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Speaker 1: that there's this misconception that when a person has lice,

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Speaker 1: and she just kind of played it off as it's

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Speaker 1: sometimes think that if you're standing next to someone with

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Speaker 1: probably fine. The bigger concern is if she put any

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Speaker 1: comfy material. It definitely if she was sitting there, they

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Speaker 1: definitely could have been an issue. But in theory, they're

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Speaker 1: even now, if a kid is found to have it

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Speaker 1: as like the dirty kid that brought lice into school

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Speaker 1: kind of thing, right, which is just completely ridiculous. Anybody

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Speaker 1: maybe didn't do a thorough enough job and then they said,

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Speaker 1: fire and me getting on a plane with lace as

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Speaker 1: a headline, Well, like you put it out there so

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Speaker 1: and you're a celebrity. Ever, I just e won't em

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Speaker 1: and understand because that's understandable. Like, let's say she's living

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Speaker 1: I think that that's totally normal. Right. Yeah, then you

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Speaker 1: even if you go on the plane and you're like, shit,

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Speaker 1: my head's really itchy, and you look in the mirror

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Speaker 1: and see that you have like bugs crawling on your head,

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Speaker 1: the last thing you should do is hit record and

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Speaker 1: do that. That's and that annoys the shit out of me.

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Speaker 1: That's more annoying than any of this. Are people saying

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Speaker 1: that in the comments, just like yeah, they're not They're

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Speaker 1: just like, there's no reason you told everybody this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and were like, oh my god, Jenny Mullen his life

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Speaker 1: and she's on this plane right now, Like, you'll put

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Speaker 1: of jolting that it would be less likely to spill

431
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: over the edge. Well, as a result of that McDonald's lawsuit,

432
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure what came from that was they had

433
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 1: to start putting that warning on these cups that said,

434
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,959
Speaker 1: like caution hot liquid. Right, but when you're on an airplane,

435
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter for what you said, like, you're in

436
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 1: kind of an uncontrolled environment and if turbulence hits or something,

437
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna splash. There's no lid on the cup. Why

438
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: does it have to be so hot and they're not

439
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 1: rigid and there's no cup holders. They have cup holders,

440
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: but it's a joke. What that little divot in the tray? Yeah, no,

441
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I just I can't believe that

442
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: this is the first time that this has happened. To

443
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: be honest, I doubt it's the first time that happened.

444
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 1: It's probably just getting sensationalized right now because it involves

445
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: severe burning of a man genitals. So you know, do

446
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 1: you ever go into a coffee shop and they make

447
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: you coffee and they don't have There's this one we

448
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: go to and they don't have the lids. The lids

449
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: are like on the side. You could put the lid

450
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: on yourself. I just don't like carrying those plastic cups

451
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: filled with water that hot. Think about like somebody walk

452
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 1: into the bathroom and bumping your arm or something. It's

453
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: just they're so flimsy that it's just a risk of

454
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: getting burned with it. I don't know. I think a

455
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: lot of hipster coffee shops it is to that. I

456
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: only I know why is that cool? It's not cool

457
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: to put the lid on for people. I know they

458
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: want you to see the fancy film design that they do.

459
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: I know two in particular that I go to that

460
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: do that. And the one is fine because it's like

461
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: you literally pick the cup up and you turn your

462
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: body around one eighty and it's right there. But the

463
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: other one that we just went to recently is you

464
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: have to go down a couple steps then you find

465
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 1: the lid and it's not in a super obvious location.

466
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: It's near like where a bunch of other tables are

467
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: and stuff. So the risk of bumping to somebody's high.

468
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: They need to think of the user flow of the experience.

469
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: It's not cool to do that. No, okay, True crime,

470
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, another week. This is like the episode

471
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: full of updates. Finally we never get answers about anything.

472
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: So update about the kayaker who faked his own death.

473
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: Oh my god. The other day you were like, please

474
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: tune into Nancy Grace. Something crazy came out about this

475
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: and she had this content creator on the show that

476
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: apparently took this video back in June and California. And

477
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: in the video she was making, the content creator was

478
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: holding up a sign I guess asking anybody if they

479
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: were looking for free advice, and this guy on this

480
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: bike pulls up to her and asks if he should

481
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: move to Uzbeka stand or stay here. And it started

482
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: going crazy because this man in the video looked just

483
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: like the guy that was faking his own death. Yeah.

484
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: And this woman who was making this video, she was

485
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: standing at a beach in San Diego, just holding up

486
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,239
Speaker 1: one of those signs that have as us sometimes if

487
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: we go to the boardwalk, they'll be like someone holding

488
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: up a sign because they're trying to make a video

489
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: for YouTube or whatever. And she just heard about this guy.

490
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: So this is the guy who went who faked his

491
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: own death and went missing. And she heard about it

492
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: on the news and thought, wow, they think that this

493
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: guy's in Uzbekistan. What a weird random country. That's weird.

494
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: I interviewed a guy that said that he would want

495
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: to move to use Pakistan and he also was married.

496
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: So pulled up the footage, looked at it and she

497
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, let me just contact police.

498
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: So she also had it online and it went viral

499
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: like four point five million views or something like that

500
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: because everyone was convinced it was this guy. Yeah, So

501
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: she said at first she didn't even realize what happened

502
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: until a bunch of her followers started sending her the

503
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 1: news story about the guy going missing, and she was like,

504
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: this is really weird. And then when she looked at everything,

505
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: she was like, oh my god, this must be the person.

506
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: It was really bizarre because she was like, why do

507
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: you want to move there? And he said he wanted

508
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: to meet women, and then he eventually said he was married,

509
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: and she like, talking to this guy so uncomfortable. This

510
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,239
Speaker 1: person in this video seemed like they were like on

511
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: drugs or something. The way they were talking. No. I

512
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: said that he had like Kevin Spacey vibes in seven,

513
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: just like total out of it, creepster. I don't know,

514
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: there was something about him. If I talked to him,

515
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: I'd just be like, something's off with that dude. But

516
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: apparently it's not the dude. Somehow it's not the guy,

517
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: which I can't believe because looking at pictures they look

518
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: very similar. And I don't know what this guy's voice

519
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: sounded like or anything, but just you know, the the

520
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: eerie similarity of the stories and the fact that they

521
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: look so similar. I mean, Nancy was even saying like

522
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: it's supposedly him, So she wasn't confirming it was him,

523
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: but it was very suspicious. Well, the investigators interviewed people

524
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: that knew him in real life and said that it

525
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: wasn't him. So what, I mean, what else can you do? Yeah,

526
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: because I mean, you people that know him would know

527
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 1: that it was him or not. They would know if

528
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: it was him, you know, based on his voice. I mean,

529
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: this video was taken in California, he lived in Michigan.

530
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: They might have good evidence to suggest that he was

531
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: not in California at that time. It is an eerie coincidence.

532
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to locate the actual person that

533
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: was in the video to see what the deal is.

534
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 1: So so what my theory is is that there's just

535
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: this whole underground network of women in Uzbakistan who are

536
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: trying to scam American men to move there, right, And

537
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: that's that's like legit a thing. I actually know someone

538
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: that this happened to. Oh like that, and it wasn't

539
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: It wasn't used Pakistan. I don't remember what the country was.

540
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: But this woman told a person that we know that

541
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: her family was rich and that they were oyster pearl farmers.

542
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: And that she was going to send him money and

543
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: like pay for his children to go to college and

544
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,479
Speaker 1: all this stuff. But he had to do something before

545
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: she did all that. And it was some like any

546
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: normal person hearing that story, you're just like, oh good,

547
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: that that's totally fake, right, But this guy was convinced

548
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: this woman was so hot the pictures of her and stuff,

549
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: that this was real. That the that the all the

550
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: other people in the room had to be like, dude,

551
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: you're about to get scammed really bad. He just had

552
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: no idea that it was gonna happen. He really thought

553
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: this super hot, rich chick from another country wanted to

554
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: just take whisp him away and like take care of

555
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: his whole family. You know. Well, somebody on her show

556
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: brought this point up, to which she did not like.

557
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: You know, I was cackling listening to this episode her

558
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: tearing into this guy. But no, my thought is if

559
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 1: if he was more than likely scammed over there, is

560
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: he over there and isn't coming back because he knows

561
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna face charges over here. Did he go over

562
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: there and get killed? Did they take all his money

563
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: and he can't get home? What is going on over there?

564
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: Is it one of those situations where we just won't know.

565
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I hope we do know, because I

566
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: would just love I would love it if he left

567
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: his wife and faked his death and all this stuff

568
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: and then he went over there and it turns out

569
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: that this lady drained, which is what happened, one hundred percent, okay,

570
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: drained his entire bank account, took all his money. He

571
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: got there. What the hell are you going to do

572
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: over there? You're you're you know what I mean, Like,

573
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: you're not from there, no origins there. They have really

574
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: good food. I know because there used to be a

575
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: restaurant that was called Usbakistan in northeast Philly. I don't

576
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: know if it's still there, but it was freaking amazing.

577
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: But regardless, he's gonna come home and be like, wifey,

578
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm back. I want to see the kids,

579
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: like yeah, and right now, Like like I thought last week,

580
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: the only charge he could really get hit with at

581
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: this moment is like insurance fraud. But still that's kind

582
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: of dicey because he was taking out the life she

583
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: Nevers policy on himself and the wife. You know, I

584
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: don't even think she contacted them, and from a person

585
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: I know that works in the industry, it takes a

586
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: really long time to get a payout on missing people

587
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: because they have to investigate every possible thing, Like you know,

588
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: your husband faking his own death. So even though we

589
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: thought it was the only considerate thing he did trying

590
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: to get her fade out, it's not like she would

591
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: have gotten it immediately. It could have been years and

592
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: years and years if they didn't discover that he faked

593
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: his own deaths. So yeah, I don't I don't know

594
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: if he could get It's an interesting point because at first,

595
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: when you we always talk about these stories of people

596
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: faking crimes, which we're gonna talk about some fun ones

597
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: in a minute, but you always think that that they

598
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: would get there would be accountability. But he kind of

599
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: I guess the guy that was on Nancy's program had

600
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: a point which was he didn't commit a crime. You're

601
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: allowed to leave your wife, like and that's that's what

602
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: he did. Like she's the one that called authorities to

603
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: look for him. Yeah, because we were saying like he

604
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: could maybe get hit with like a waste of resources,

605
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: but like he did it like he I don't know though,

606
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: because that I don't know. Because that chick, Sherry Peppini

607
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: that faked her kidnapping, I guess she I was gonna

608
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: say her husband called, but she came back eventually and

609
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: then said that somebody can is it illegal to fake

610
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: your death? But but he didn't really fake his death.

611
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: He's just missing. He staged an accident. I mean, I

612
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: don't know, but like he I don't know, though. Can

613
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: you prove that he staged an accident? Like what he

614
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: just like left his boat there? Like what if I

615
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: think sitting there was like you know what, screw this,

616
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm leaving and just left his stuff there. I think

617
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: circumstante blood or anything anywhere, you know, I think circumstantially

618
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: they could try to get him with that because they

619
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: have all this evidence that he was wiping his history,

620
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: he was transferring his money to Farigm bank accounts, he

621
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: was talking to this like mistress overseas. So I think

622
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: circumstantially they're gonna say you faked it. But I don't

623
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: think there is any law in the United States for this,

624
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: And it's seemingly becoming more and more common that well,

625
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: it's not common, you know, people have been staging their

626
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: deaths since the beginning of mankind, right, because yeah, but

627
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: back in the day, that was an easy thing to do.

628
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: You know, it was really easy to do because there

629
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: wasn't DNA, there wasn't technology. It was really hard to

630
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: trace a person's whereabouts, so you could easily go on

631
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: the run. You could move from Michigan to Uzbekistan and

632
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: never be found again. But in today's day and age,

633
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: it's nearly impossible to commit a crime like this, which

634
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: is also why all these people that fake getting kidnapped

635
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: all get caught. What made them because he got He

636
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: did a pretty good job, to be honest, except when

637
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: they like what made them start looking? And just because

638
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: they didn't find his body, I guess and the guy

639
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: who was searching the water thought that that was weird

640
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: because they always had so much success finding a body. Well,

641
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: what was the turning point that made them say something,

642
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: something's up here. Well maybe because the lack of finding

643
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: a person's body. You can't just assume that they drown,

644
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: so you have to start ruling out other things, which

645
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: is why they started looking into his computer and seeing

646
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: that he was doing all that other stuff. And then

647
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: eventually they figured out that his passport had been scanned

648
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: in Canada. Yeah, but he had not really. I don't

649
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: even think he was like in the system as a

650
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: missing person at the time his passport was scanned, which

651
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: is probably why it's himself past. But the question remains,

652
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: like how did he get into Canada? So they need

653
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,239
Speaker 1: to see if somebody helped him out. I mean, in

654
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: theory he could have I was gonna say, have a

655
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: rental car, but something would be attached to that because

656
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: he was in Where was he in Michigan? Yeah, I

657
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: mean I don't know where are you the closest location

658
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: that you would get into Canada from there? But could

659
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: he have taken an oof? Can we also talk about

660
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: how hilarious her saying his last name was Borgwart? All right, talk,

661
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: let's talk about now this this next one that is

662
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: in the news this week is it's just kind of on.

663
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with medical stuff that we

664
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: normally talk about psychologically, It really definitely psychologically, but it's

665
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: just so entertaining, so we have to share it, all right.

666
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: In January, these four men had claimed that a bear

667
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: you may get this out, it's so ridiculous, Okay. In January,

668
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: these four men had claimed that this bear had gone

669
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: into their roles voice and destroyed the inside of the car.

670
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: So they put a claim with insurance, and they gave

671
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: them video footage from like you know, a doorbell camera

672
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: or security footage on the property or something, and the

673
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: insurance people are watching this video and they're like, uh,

674
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: that's not a bear. And then they transferred over to

675
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: another like a higher up department who's also watching it.

676
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: They're like, that stuff, why not a bear, That's a

677
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: person in the bear costume. So then they had to

678
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: show the video to some professional wildlife experts, which, like

679
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: the local person working at the insurance company was like, yeah, no,

680
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: you don't need an expert to say it. Like, we

681
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: look at it, We're like, oh my god, these people

682
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: are so ridiculous. We're trying to pass this off. So

683
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, the expert was like, that is a person

684
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: in a bear costume. So that as they start looking

685
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: further into it, they figure out that two of the

686
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: other guys have put in insurance claims with two other

687
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: insurance companies for their cars and then either so at

688
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: some point they got a payout from this. Yeah, so

689
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: they got to pay Wow, they got a payout of

690
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 1: over one hundred and forty thousand dollars from the three

691
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: insurance companies, and when detectives executed a search for it,

692
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: they came across the bear costume, which like, how much

693
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: of an idiot are you? Why would you keep it?

694
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: And the best part for me was on the end

695
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: of it. They had bear claws like the meat treading

696
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: plastick tool that barely did any damage inside of the cars.

697
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't believe they got paid out

698
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: for one of these. Really, I mean, insurance companies are

699
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: so they're so you know, stingy with the money and

700
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: payouts and stuff. You just can't even believe. I just

701
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: can't believe it. But we're we'll put the link to

702
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: the video in the grosser room because it is so

703
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: outrage just just to watch it. And they act like

704
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: the group of these guys watched this video and we're like, yeah,

705
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: that looks good, that looks good. We're good. They'll definitely

706
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: see it. You can't the telltale sign in the video,

707
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: which I can't believe there's video. It is literally bear

708
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: open the car door. The bear opened the car door,

709
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: barely rocking the car at all. And then when he's

710
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: walking through the light in the cars on and you

711
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: could see the costume like shifting on the person's back,

712
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: like we're thinking, oh my god, So this is another

713
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: totally random, weird crime that someone faked. I don't know

714
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: if you remember this back in two thousand and nine,

715
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: Do you remember the boy in the balloon? Yeah? I do. Wait,

716
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: that was not what because I think I know the

717
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: vague details of it. It was like these parents that

718
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: had this invention of a weather balloon or something they made,

719
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: and they said that their six year old child was

720
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: on it, and the experiment went awry and the balloon

721
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: just like went off without the kid, and the whole

722
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: time the kid was in their basement. And they later

723
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: admitted to making up the entire story and saying that

724
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: they actually had a quote that said that their motive

725
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: was to make the family more marketable for future media interests.

726
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: That like literally is just like what is going through

727
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: people's minds, like their delusional Really, this is straight out

728
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: of the Amanda Show. She had this segment called, like

729
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: I think it was called Moody's Point where her mom

730
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: was like long lost in a high air balloon floating

731
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: in the sky, and they would show the mom like

732
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: wondering how she was doing on the ground. I just

733
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: don't even understand how you would ever think that that

734
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: would work out. I mean, like the military, like all

735
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: these people got involved, because when a child's missing, you

736
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: have to take it seriously. Yeah, and then it's just like,

737
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: oh no, this was just a lie. Like I actually

738
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: want to look up like whatever happened to those people

739
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: because I haven't ever heard of them again. I guess

740
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: their media career didn't blow up after that. Can you

741
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: just go to jail for being an asshole? It's not

742
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: but it's not really an asshole. It's just like you're

743
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: a moron. You're just like really really dumb. This episode

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751
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: asking questions about a case of a man who was

752
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: picking his scalp so much that almost half of his

753
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: scalp was scarred up and missing because he picked it

754
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: so much. So that was one of the questions this week.

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Speaker 1: sign up Medical news all right. Last January, this thirty

759
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: nine year old patient had gone to the hospital after

760
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: his skull was crushed by a tree. And apparently when

761
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: this guy went into surgery, the neurosurgeon you know, was

762
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: brought her daughter to work that day, was like, hey,

763
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: thirteen year old, why don't you take this drill and

764
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: drill into this patient's head during their surgery? Oh my god?

765
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: And I guess who. Like the people in ther obviously

766
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: were just like, okay, this is where we draw the line. Yeah.

767
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: It seems like the hospital higher ups did it really

768
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: get wind of this for quite a little bit. After

769
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: they did, they only suspended the doctor at first before

770
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: deciding to fire her. All I can think about is

771
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: the times you had me come to work with you,

772
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: or even when I interned at the hospital, I was

773
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: never directly allowed to handle a specimen, let alone a

774
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: live patience and search right, that. I was thinking that too,

775
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: because I was like, we always had teenagers and younger

776
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: kids in like, but we would have you, okay, go

777
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: bring these slides to the pathologist or something like that.

778
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: There was never and that was back in the day,

779
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 1: which I don't even know that they would allow kids

780
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: to do that because of the hip is stuff and everything.

781
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: But like, no, at any time, I would never ever

782
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: let you be exposed to a bloodborne pathogen as a

783
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: child like that. Well, you know, like whenever I had

784
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: you take pictures of something of placenta's it was like

785
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: I put it on the paper and was like stand

786
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: here and touch the camera and take a picture. Like

787
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: it was never you were never at risk of being

788
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: exposed to anything, because that's certainly not responsible for a

789
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: child to be exposed to that kind of stuff. To me,

790
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: it would be like you being like take this, you

791
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: know orgon that came up with the tumor, cut the

792
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: tumor out and make the frozen section and they could

793
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: give it to the doctor at a book. That would

794
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: absolutely never happen. What are people doing? And then this

795
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: doctor has the balls to sue the hospital saying wrongful termination. Well,

796
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: I don't even understand why, Like, how are you You're

797
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: a brain surgeon, You're one of the smartest people in

798
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: theory on the planet. What are you doing right now?

799
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: It says her legal team said they should have dismissed

800
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: her as soon as they received her statement confessing to

801
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: allowing her daughter to operate, not until three months later

802
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: when they lifted this as why would she sue if

803
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: she had her job for an additional three months exactly

804
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: like and I'm sure it was suspended with pay. Yeah,

805
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: I just I don't. I just don't know what people

806
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: are thinking. I just really don't. Well, they're going to

807
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: take a deeper look in this in January when everybody

808
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: that was working on this operation has to give some

809
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: evidence and testimony. Yeah, I want to hear about that

810
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: because I'm curious. You know, you're in you're in a

811
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: room with the surgeon who's who's like, you know, you

812
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: don't want to question what they're doing. But at the

813
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: same time, you're also a medical professional that's sitting there

814
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: saying this is the same thing that probably happened with

815
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: the dude, the one guy in Florida that took out

816
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: the wrong organ. Just think about being in the o

817
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: r with all of the other staff and just their

818
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: reactions to this abnormal thing that's happening. Like, what do

819
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: you do in that situation? You know, I don't know,

820
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: and I don't know the hierarchy of doctors, Like is

821
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: the surgeon considered like your boss in the operating room,

822
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: so you don't feel comfortable enough speaking out against them

823
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know if you would necessarily call

824
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: it a formal boss, but they're the one that's lee

825
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: that's leading it. I mean, in our situation, it's the

826
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: pathologists were never officially my boss. The tea people that

827
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: were in charge of me, my supervisors were also hospital employees.

828
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: But there's just a certain level of I don't know

829
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: what you want to say, respect that you have for

830
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: the physicians that and ultimately they're the ones that can

831
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: get sued with the malpractice insurance and everything. So if

832
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: they say something is okay, you could argue with them,

833
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: which I have done many times, trust me that you're

834
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: wrong or something, but ultimately it's you signing your name

835
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: to it, you know what I mean. So there are

836
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: the ones that are kind of in charge in that situation. Okay,

837
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: there's a twenty six year old who currently has twenty

838
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: two biological children and plans to have over one hundred.

839
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: How does it seem possible sarrogacy? Her husband's rich and

840
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: they've paid one hundred and eighty thousand dollars to surrogates

841
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: over the past couple of years, and most of the

842
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: kids were actually born with than the same year. Yeah,

843
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: so they say, why is this attractive? Why would you

844
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: want to have even if you add all the money

845
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: in the world and help, why would you want to

846
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 1: have that many kids around? I don't understand. So they're saying,

847
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: twenty of the kids were born within just over a

848
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: year of each other, and they pay I feel like,

849
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: I feel like that number of one hundred and eighty

850
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: thousand is not right, because does it one surrogate get. Like,

851
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure if you're a high level sarrogate in

852
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: LA or something for celebrities, you could get you know,

853
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: two hundred to five hundred thousand dollars for one baby. Well, yeah,

854
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: if I was going to be a saragate, I at

855
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: least would want my house paid off. Yeh, something like

856
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: a major thing. But this is in Russia, right, They're

857
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: living in Russia. She's a Russian woman. I don't know

858
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: if she if they live in Russia, well, regardless, I

859
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: feel like I thought that I saw that they did,

860
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: and he was some kind of a millionaire over there,

861
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: so I don't know. I was thinking the same exact

862
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: thing though, that they're they're taking advantage of people, poor women,

863
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: and I mean, and not really paying them that much

864
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: to hold a baby for them. Really, yeah, And obviously

865
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty divided one hundred and eighty thousand divided

866
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: by twenty is just like not that much money to

867
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: be carrying a baby. No, it certainly isn't. And then

868
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: they have all these nannies. My problem with it is

869
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: just like, what quality of life are these children going

870
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: to have. They're never going to have, you know, a

871
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: space where they're having enough attention. I don't think it's

872
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: right to do something like that. And to make matters

873
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: even worse. The husband was sentenced in twenty twenty three

874
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: to eight years in prison after being found of illegally

875
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: purchasing and possessing drugs. So well, I just pulled out

876
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: the calculator. It's nine thousand dollars to be a surrogant.

877
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: I should have been able to figure that out in

878
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: my head. I'm embarrassed, but quick man. But I think

879
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: the thing is is that my kids could figure that

880
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: out because they learned how to do math a certain

881
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: kind of way. But like, if I had to sit

882
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: there and draw out my long division to figure that

883
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: out would be ridiculous. But anyway, Yeah, I mean nine

884
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in two thousand and twenties to take care

885
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: to go through an entire pregnancy, that's just that's taken

886
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 1: advantage of somebody, really, and during a pandemic, when being

887
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: in the hospital is absolute healthy, and also with the

888
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: pandemic and that particular virus being of importance to people

889
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: that were considered immunosuppress, which when you're pregnant, you're considered immunosuppress.

890
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: So like, this is just this is just to show off.

891
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 1: She tried to act like, oh, she's a normal mom

892
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: and does all this stuff even with help. But you

893
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: I was reading like all the children's names, and I'm like,

894
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: if you sat there and asked the lady all of

895
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: her kids' names, there's no way birthday stuff like that,

896
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 1: There's no way that she would know. I just don't

897
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: believe it. I just don't think it's a good quality

898
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: of life. I mean, we talked about this with Nick

899
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: Cannon and his mission to like repopulate the whole world. Right,

900
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: It's like, what, you're just doing it for attention and

901
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: some weird like selfish thing, like you're not doing it

902
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: to get what good quality of life can the kid have?

903
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: Unless like I don't know, I was gonna say, unless

904
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: they're each raised by their own individual nanny or something,

905
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: but it's like that's not right, Like I just don't

906
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: agree with it. It's not like collecting purses and shoes.

907
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: I think they're humans just have children to have children,

908
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: And that really bothers me. You should want to have

909
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: a child to try to give them a good, loving life,

910
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: not just because you think it fulfills your Facebook picture,

911
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's really messed up. Well yeah, I I

912
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you can't listen. I don't

913
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: ever want to be one of those people that say,

914
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: I just personally think it's your moron, because like, why

915
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: would you want to be around that many kids and

916
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: be responsible for them for whatever reason? But where, like

917
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: where would you draw the line of how many people couldkeep,

918
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: how many children people could have. It's that's why you

919
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: just can't really say because there's plenty. Even one of

920
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: my friends her husband's one of ten kids, and that

921
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: was you know, they're older. So it's like back in

922
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: the day when people just did that, that was a

923
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: common thing to happen, that you had multiple kids. Where

924
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: do you draw the Line's ten too many? Is fifteen

925
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: too many? Is six too many? You know, I don't know,

926
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: it's kind of you just can't. It's just like not

927
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: saying it should be illegal. It's just I don't know,

928
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: I just think it's not right. But whatever. Yeah, but

929
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: you also, like I want to bring this point up too,

930
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: that like you're taking all the available sarrogates to have

931
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: like twenty kids in one year for yourself. Like what

932
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: if of a married couple desperately is trying to have

933
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: a baby, and then the surrogate's not available for them

934
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: because you're trying to have like one hundred children when

935
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: somebody just wants one that they're going to give a

936
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: really good life to. Yeah, I mean, I don't know,

937
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: I just I don't think it's right. But all right,

938
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: In La, this forty four year old woman from Virginia

939
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: was arrested after it was discovered she put as a

940
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: registered nurse in multiple hospitals over a month and took

941
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 1: care of over sixty patients. This is scary, Yeah, And

942
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: I guess I was talking to Amy. I texted Amy

943
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: and Kara about this, just being like, how the hell

944
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: does this happen? And they were telling me about all

945
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: the different the different points of checking people's identification and

946
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 1: stuff to make sure that their nursing license is valid.

947
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: And I guess the biggest problem with this case is

948
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: that this woman had somehow stolen a real registered nurse's

949
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: license and also had a fake ID to go along

950
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: with it. So that's why all of the credentials checked out. Yeah,

951
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: and it wasn't the first time she did it either.

952
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: She's done this multiple times. Yeah, and in twenty seventeen,

953
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: So she stole the identity of a nurse that was

954
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: living in New York and was working in Virginia as

955
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: a nursing supervisor. So Amy's point was like, if you're

956
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: going to steal someone's identity, why would you take like

957
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: a job that's really hard to do. It's not like

958
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: it's a cake walk that you get paid a shit

959
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: ton of money. It's like a it's like a very

960
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: stressful job, and it's a lot of hours and hard work.

961
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,959
Speaker 1: So the whole story is just weird because I also

962
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: think about this woman went through all of this stuff,

963
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: and she obviously is good at it because she's done

964
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: it for the past five years and has duped a

965
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: bunch of people like, if she's that intelligent, why didn't

966
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: she just go to nursing school and just become a nurse.

967
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't understand. I don't think she was that good

968
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: at it, because when she just got arrested, they said

969
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: they started looking into it because it was obvious she

970
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: didn't have some basic knowledge of nursing, and people are like,

971
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: how have you been a nurse? She's good, she's good

972
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: at it if she got her foot in the door

973
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: to begin with. I just like I think about, I'm

974
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: not a nurse, so I don't know the whole entire

975
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: deal with how they get hired at the host. But

976
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: we have a similar thing that we're certified, and we

977
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: have to be certified through a certain organization, and we

978
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: have to have a certain level of education. And when

979
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: I even I was working at the hospital I was

980
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: at for ten years or whatever before I even graduated

981
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: PA school. And they were like, yeah, if we're going

982
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: to move you to this position, we need documentation of

983
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: your transcripts from the school that you went to that

984
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: was accredited for this program that you went to. And

985
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: then we need documentation of your PA credentials and all

986
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: of this stuff matching with your driver's license and this

987
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: and that, Like it's all that's what I had to

988
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: go through. Like, I don't understand how it was that

989
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: easy for her to just get in and slip through

990
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: like that. I guess, well, I think we make up

991
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: this point a lot on this show where sometimes scammers

992
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: go to such great lengths that what you just said earlier,

993
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: like if you're so smart to do this, and you

994
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: could do all the steps to you know, be a fraudster,

995
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: why can't you just go to nursing school and actually

996
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: become a nurse. But I don't know, some people just

997
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: have that brain Like think of Frank Abbing. Now, am

998
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: I saying that correctly? From Catch Me? If you? Oh?

999
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: I love that dude, like he was this master, you know, scammer.

1000
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 1: And then the FBI was like, you're kind of smarter

1001
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: than a lot of guys on our team. So can

1002
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: you just be consultant because even though you should be

1003
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: going to jail for everything you're doing, like you're gonna

1004
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: be able to catch other people who are doing stuff

1005
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: like this because you have like a criminal brain for it,

1006
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: but you're really smart. This is just it's just so

1007
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: off my radar to do anything like this. I don't

1008
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: even know if right now you were like in Nicole,

1009
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: go get a fake driver's license, like how they're so

1010
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: especially the ones in our state, that they're just making

1011
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: so hard to to not to not be able to counterfeit. Well,

1012
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: I would never because of my real I mean, do

1013
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: you know when like when Pop Pop was a kid,

1014
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: his driver's license was on a piece of card stock

1015
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: with no photograph. Of course, people faked id's all the time, right,

1016
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: And then even when I was a teenager, my sister

1017
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: took my driver's license so she could go to bars

1018
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 1: and stuff because she's two years younger than me, because

1019
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: she kind of looked like me, and they didn't confiscate

1020
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: the driver's license like she had just when when I

1021
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: got older and got my new driver's license, like I

1022
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: just gave her my old one and she used it

1023
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: for years and got in right. But now it's just

1024
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: I feel like they put don't they like punch a

1025
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: hole in it, and there's like all this stuff and

1026
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: you can't just like easily make it. The one that

1027
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: I had when I was a teenager was just a

1028
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: piece of cardboard kind of laminated between that thick lamination paper.

1029
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't anything that wasn't able to be

1030
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: counterfeit basically. But now they're like printed on this special

1031
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: thing with the holograms and all this. I don't know,

1032
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: I've totally random thought from this. What do you do

1033
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: if you get like major cosmetic surgery on your face

1034
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: and you look so different and you have to you

1035
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: have to get a new license, I'm assuming right, because

1036
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: it's not gonna match. I I do wonder that sometimes

1037
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: because I show in my my driver's license picture right

1038
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: now I was pregnant with Lilian, who's almost twelve years old.

1039
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: It's just like my hair was completely different, my face

1040
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: was different. They don't let you wear your glasses in

1041
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 1: the picture, which is weird because I always wear my glasses,

1042
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: so it's almost like my Clark Kent disguise that I

1043
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: could go out and nobody would know who I was

1044
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: if I just was not wearing my glasses. You know.

1045
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,959
Speaker 1: But but like, how is that helpful for your ID?

1046
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: You know? Well, I had a new license picture when

1047
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: I changed my last name when I got married, and

1048
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. So I'm gonna try to keep that

1049
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: for a while because I always have, Like, No, mine's

1050
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: terrible because I was. I feel like it was right

1051
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: before I was ready to give birth to Lilian, and

1052
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: I was like at least two hundred pounds of huge,

1053
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: Like my face is just way fatter than it is

1054
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: now you're pregnant. I know, I know, but I'm just

1055
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: it's just not it's like not anything of what I

1056
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: look like. It's just it's it's just so bizarre, like

1057
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: it literally was in twenty twelve. Why would that be

1058
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: my ID right now? You know? Yeah? I was thinking

1059
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: that too, because I renewed my passport also when I

1060
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: changed my last name, and the last picture I had

1061
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: was from when I was seventeen. I didn't look anything

1062
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: like that. It's crazy that they let you keep. I'm

1063
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: glad that I look better now than that, because that

1064
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: would just be depressing if it was when I was

1065
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: like younger and looking way better, you know. Okay, So yeah,

1066
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: so that nurse she's been arrested. I just it just

1067
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: really really scares me that that could happen. I don't

1068
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: know though, that the hospital necessarily did anything wrong. If

1069
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 1: she presented with all official appearing documents, it's just scary

1070
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: that she was even able to do that. Yeah, and

1071
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: she took care of what sixty people? Yeah, I mean,

1072
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 1: I mean I know what she was doing. I wonder

1073
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: if anybody died as a result of that or anything.

1074
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: So scary. Okay. Other death news, all right, So last

1075
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: update we have today is about the Walmart oven death.

1076
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: So police have said there's no foul play in the

1077
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: death of the nineteen year old who died in the

1078
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: Walmart walk in oven. They're not considering it's suspicious at all.

1079
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: What do you think that means that it was just

1080
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: an accident? Yeah, I think based upon what we heard,

1081
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: because they did say in the documentation that the girl

1082
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,479
Speaker 1: was discovered by her mother. I think that we said

1083
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: all this the last time, right, Yeah, they had both

1084
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: worked there for two years. The mother tried to find

1085
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 1: her after not seeing her for an hour and asking around,

1086
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: she tried to call her. She started panicking because she

1087
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: said her daughter never turned off her phone in the

1088
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: middle of the day, and then that's when she discovered

1089
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: that she was inside of the oven. So it it's

1090
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: either that, like I said, she either had a natural death,

1091
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 1: and you know, like I said, she could have had

1092
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: a heart attack or something and dropped in the oven

1093
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: and that was just secondary she was in there. Or

1094
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: it could have been an accident because the latch was

1095
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: broke or something like that, or something malfunction on the machine.

1096
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: So either of those things are still possible. They didn't

1097
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: say what the autopsy results were. I think it's less

1098
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: likely that it was a natural death because usually people

1099
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: that are that age just aren't standing there and just

1100
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: drop dead from a heart condition, although it totally could happen,

1101
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: but they would see that at autopsy and be able

1102
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: to see what caused her to die. Did she die

1103
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: because her heart was she had some kind of a

1104
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: heart defect, or did she die because she of hyperthermia.

1105
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: That's the two things. But there was a lot of

1106
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: buzz going around online that someone pushed her in there

1107
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: and shut the door, But they were saying all the

1108
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: investigation and the interviews and the videos didn't show that. Yeah,

1109
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: and they also showed I think they did an assessment

1110
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: of the oven and determined that it was functioning properly

1111
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: at the time of the accident. But you know, Walmart

1112
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: said that those of are being removed from the store

1113
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: as part of a standard remodeling anyway. So I'm like, well,

1114
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: of course you're not going to keep it after a

1115
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: tragedy like that. And the store is currently closed still,

1116
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: so I don't know if it's been closed this entire

1117
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: time or if they've been closing it sporadically for the investigation.

1118
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: But it's just really unfortunate this happened. M hm okay.

1119
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: In October, a medical school in Texas was being inspected

1120
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: and they were found to be illegally liquefying dead bodies.

1121
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: What does that mean? All right? So I read the

1122
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: whole story and I'm trying to figure out what happened.

1123
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: But basically, when sometimes if a person dies, they say

1124
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: they want to donate their body to science, they'll donate

1125
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: their family member to a medical school. So the medical school,

1126
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: can you know, the medical students could dissect a kid

1127
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: diverse and stuff, and people like me and the families

1128
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: usually signed paperwork that says, Okay, we're going to do

1129
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: whatever we want for this research or for medical student learning,

1130
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: and then when we're done with the body, we're going

1131
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: to cremate the body. We're going to get the remains

1132
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: back to you. Well, what happened is at this medical school,

1133
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: it seems like they were doing a water cremation, which

1134
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: is called alkaline hydrolysis, which they put chemicals on the

1135
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: body to essentially liquefy it, because the body is made

1136
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: up of sixty percent water, right, so you're basically just

1137
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: like shrinking down all of that fluid and then whatever,

1138
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: and that turns into almost a powder, and then whatever

1139
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: is left over, teeth, bones, things like that get pulverized

1140
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: into ashes similar way that you would do it with

1141
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: the cremation, and that's given to the family. So the

1142
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: family might not even know that this happened because it

1143
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: kind of just looks similar. But I think the biggest

1144
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: problem with this is number one, it's illegal in Texas,

1145
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: so they don't do any water cremations in Texas. However,

1146
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: the medical school is fighting back saying, yeah, but we

1147
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: fall underneath of this thing where we can when we

1148
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: have bodies for medical research. We can do it, but

1149
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: then the law makes or some Texas are bouncing back

1150
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: and saying no, we override that. Well, I think there

1151
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: was also some concerns they were doing this on unclaimed

1152
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: bodies too, so technically those families didn't have they didn't

1153
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: have permission. Well that that's a whole separate issue that

1154
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: this school is having with the unclaimed bodies. But as

1155
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: far as this goes, the concern is that so let's

1156
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: say I say I want to donate my body to science,

1157
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,919
Speaker 1: and you sign this paperwork and say I'm getting cremated, right, yeah,

1158
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: but I'm like a devout Catholics speak against this. They

1159
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: say that they don't think that this is the right

1160
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: way to respect a body. After it says that it

1161
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: fails to treat the body with things that they respect

1162
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: in the sense of image of liquid bodies being poured

1163
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: into the sewer, like so this is this is what

1164
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: they're saying, Like the Catholic Church doesn't agree with it. Right,

1165
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: So now you think I'm getting cremated, but really I'm

1166
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: having this thing done which is against our religion basically.

1167
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: But the families don't even know that this is happening,

1168
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: and that's that's where it's like, oh, listen, honestly, in

1169
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: my opinion, like what's the difference. I mean, but like

1170
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: religious people have their things, and you're either like you're

1171
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: you're sitting there trying to tell people like it's totally

1172
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: okay to burn this dead body all the way to ashes,

1173
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: but but if you put it in a chemical and

1174
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: put it in that similar thing, it's not okay. Whatever.

1175
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: People are entitled to what they want. That's what I

1176
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: was gonna say. I guess that's a matter of they

1177
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: need to clarify on paperwork. I guess what is potentially happening.

1178
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: But I also don't believe there's a high percentage of

1179
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: devout religious people that are donating their bodies to science,

1180
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: because typically if you're really religious, you're also not really

1181
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: into science. So I don't think many religious people. Yeah,

1182
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: but you know, you can't say that though, because it's

1183
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: it's not. This is Catholic is like the least the

1184
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: least hardcore of the religions, and they just have rules

1185
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: like that, and this is I think the problem is

1186
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: is that it's someone that thinks like me, like I

1187
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: literally am like there's absolutely no difference. This is ridiculous, right,

1188
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: But I respect that there's people that have religions that

1189
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: they should be informed that this is happening and then

1190
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: they could decide if if they're okay with it or not. Well,

1191
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: to your point, it's like a lot of people that

1192
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: get donated go to like the body farm for example, Right,

1193
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: so it's okay to like leave their body in a

1194
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: field to get like eaten by by birds, but like

1195
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: it's yeah, by chemical I don't know, Like I I

1196
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: think it's there's critical that there's not there's not well

1197
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: welcome to religion like that, there's there's not a difference

1198
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: if you really want to talk about it. But but

1199
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: like people, this is the beauty of like living in

1200
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: a free society, Like you have that choice and you

1201
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: should be informed. And that's that's why they're frowning upon

1202
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: this so bad. They have a whole other situation going

1203
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: on with unclaimed bodies and stuff, which is just like

1204
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: a whole other thing, right, And we just with an

1205
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: external exam about with two authors that wrote a book

1206
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: about unclaimed bodies that you guys should check out if

1207
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: you haven't listened to that yet, because it gives I

1208
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: think you give a lot of clarity on what happens

1209
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: with those type of people. But yeah, I agree, this

1210
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: is like, that's probably the more scandalous part of this

1211
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: entire thing, and that's not the focus however of the article.

1212
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know exactly what the deal

1213
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: is with this school, but I mean, let's just say,

1214
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: if there's a body sitting in a morgue for however

1215
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: much time, I guess they should really just bury it.

1216
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: Because we had this in the hospital. We would have

1217
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: people who had miscarriages and stuff. We had a whole

1218
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: bunch of fee like fetuses in the fridge. Right if

1219
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: they sat in there for a long enough time and

1220
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: nobody came and got them and claimed them, then we

1221
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: would send them off. They had like this mass burial

1222
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: thing at some local cemetery, so if the parent ever

1223
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: came back in two years, we could be like, well,

1224
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: you could go visit the remains. They're here. Yeah, it's

1225
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: what they should do with every single person. They shouldn't

1226
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: just be like, Okay, well nobody's picked up this person

1227
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: in a couple of years, to like send them to

1228
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: a medical school. I mean whatever, it's just just to

1229
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: avoid this. It would just be easier. Yeah. But like

1230
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: I said, I guess they're just doing this because it

1231
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: saves it. It's just more it saves money. It's just

1232
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: easier to do. They weren't really hiding it. They have

1233
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: the machines. It's not like it was like a dl

1234
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: thing that they were doing, having some egor in the

1235
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: basement performing these water cremations, right. I mean, they have

1236
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: the actual machines that do it. There's documentation that they

1237
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: bought them. They are saying that they honestly believed that

1238
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: this was being done. You know that they had this

1239
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: exemption of this law because they were a medical facility.

1240
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: So a lot of it is just that. But I

1241
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 1: definitely think that the consent forms need to be changed

1242
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: and say your family member will be returned to you

1243
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: because of this method and not not cremation. If that's

1244
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: not what's being done. No, they should. They should be

1245
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: transparent about They should be like, here's all the processes

1246
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: in which your loved one could be studying. Yeah, and

1247
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: if you don't consent to that, you need to say

1248
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: which one and then they like put a special tag

1249
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: on these people. I don't know that's they definitely have

1250
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: to be transparent about it if there's a problem with it.

1251
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: But I agree with you, like what's the difference, Like,

1252
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: if your body's being donated in science, you should be

1253
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: happy that it's being studied for anything. That's how I

1254
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: look at it. Yeah, but it's it's just you want

1255
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: to know, people want to know. That's yeah, Okay, all right,

1256
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: So this story is crazy. In the UK, there was

1257
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: this younger event that was constantly telling his mother he

1258
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: was in distress over pet owners putting down their animals

1259
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: because they didn't want to pay for their treatments. He

1260
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: found their desks completely avoidable and thought this was highly

1261
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: disturbing that people were like showing up in brand new

1262
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: cars but refused to pay for treatment for their sick

1263
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: dog or cat or whatever pet. So a couple of

1264
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: weeks ago, he told his family he was going to

1265
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: his office to pick up a package, and then when

1266
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: he got there, he told a nurse he was taking

1267
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,479
Speaker 1: home meds to put down a friend's dog at the house.

1268
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: So he did go to a friend's house, but instead

1269
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: of euthanizing their dog, he euthanized himself at the house.

1270
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 1: At his friend's house, they were on vacation and came

1271
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: home and found him dead in their house. And this

1272
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: article is alluding that he did this because he was

1273
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: in distress over these pets, but allegedly he was cheating

1274
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: on his long term partner who he was planning on

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Speaker 1: breaking up with, and he was also having sleeping and

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Speaker 1: money issues. So I'm gonna say that probably leaned a

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01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: little more into it than the pets. Yeah, because come on, like,

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01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: this is the thing. There's a fine line. You Obviously,

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Speaker 1: if you take your animal to a vet, you want

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Speaker 1: them to be not only education in what they're doing,

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01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: but you want them to be compassionate towards animals and everything.

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01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: But you also you can't be having a crazy animal

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01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: person there that just has unrealistic expectations of because sometimes

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01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: I know personally with friends of mine that have animals

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01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: that and even with my animal, for example, when I

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Speaker 1: brought my cat to the vet when I first had

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01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,919
Speaker 1: adopted her, they told me that she had a heart

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01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: murmur and I said okay, and then they said, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: would you like us to give you a recommendation towards

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01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: a veterinary cardiologist? And I kind of like laughed and

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01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: thought that that was hilarious. I just I don't know.

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01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, there's like actually a vet that

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01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: specializes in cardiology that you want me to bring my

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01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: cat to right now? And what are you going to

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01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: talk about? Giving this cat a heart replacement, a valve replacement.

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01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 1: You want to crack this cat's chest open and like

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Speaker 1: do open heart surgery on a cat right now? Like me, personally,

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Speaker 1: I think that that's the most ridiculous thing I ever

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Speaker 1: heard in my life. But I know people will like

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01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: take a mortgage on their house to do that with

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Speaker 1: their animals. Well, I get it in the sense of

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01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: some people consider their pet to be like their kid, right,

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01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: So I understand people that want to do it, But

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01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: I think if you're a vet, you have to understand

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01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 1: this is part of the job. Yeah, that's what I

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01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: was saying. Like my neighbor across the street, who I love,

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01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 1: who who heard dogs are her children, she would do

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01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: that and that's the beauty of it. But like, you

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01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: can't have a doctor that is going home and emotionally

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01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: distressed because I don't want to give open heart surgery

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01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: to my cat. Yeah, because you shouldn't even be practicing

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01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: if you're that like unhinged kind of. Well, if that

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01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: was really the reason, which I just kind of I'm

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01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: having a hard time believe. I think it could have

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01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: been a contributing factor, but I don't think it was

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01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 1: like the full reason. I think, why can't you try

1317
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,520
Speaker 1: to start a foundation that saves these animals and fundraises

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01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: to fix them and then adopts them to more loving

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01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: homes in your opinion, or maybe you shouldn't be a

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01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: vet if you can't handle it. I mean, think about

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01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: if you were a doctor or a nurse, and you know,

1322
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: people have to pull the plug on their family members

1323
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 1: sometimes it just it has to happen. So like I

1324
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: don't know, and the new car, I mean, one of

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01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: my friends has the newer car and she just had

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01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 1: to get her animal put down and it was like

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01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: a heart wrenching decision that she had to do. You

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01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: just can't, like, you can't have a physician like that

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01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 1: that's judging you for that. She's also a single person

1330
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 1: that has to pay bills and this and that. Like

1331
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: you go up to a person and tell them that

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01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: they want something needs to be done for their animal,

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01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: that's like fifteen thousand dollars. That's just like a lot

1334
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: of money for some people, you know, just not everybody

1335
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: could do something. It's a lot of money for it.

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01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 1: It really should be a lot of money for any people.

1337
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: But exactly like that, especially there's been times in my

1338
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: life where that was my half of my year's salary,

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01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's just a lot

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01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: of money to expect and I had a car. Don't judge,

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01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: you know I ever, But in what I was saying

1342
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: about political fugu people, obviously it's a human being and

1343
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: that's different, and like you're not doing it to save money,

1344
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 1: but you get the point of trying to make that

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01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: emotionally it could be very distressing and I understand that,

1346
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: but like you can't go to some extreme length. But

1347
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: like the other information coming out about the affair and

1348
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: everything else, I'm I'm gonna say that was probably more

1349
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: of it. His mom's just trying to make him look

1350
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: better as a person because he kind of sucked with

1351
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: all that other stuff, right, so it's like he didn't

1352
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 1: die in vain. So okay, let's move on to Questions

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01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: of the Day. Every Friday at the at Mother Knows

1354
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 1: Death Instagram account, we put a little question box up

1355
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: in the story, and you guys could ask whatever you

1356
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: want first, what is the rarest condition you've seen at work,

1357
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: and what's one that you've always wanted to see in

1358
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: your career. Well, the rarest thing that I've probably ever

1359
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: seen is this cancer that's called an nut cancer, and

1360
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: it's it's a specific kind of cancer that's super super aggressive.

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01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: There's only been twenty reported cases of it last year.

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01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: There's probably more, but that's all that's been reported. But

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01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: we had this really young guy come in young. I

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01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: don't know his exact age, what I'd say he was

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01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: definitely under thirty and maybe he was somewhere in between

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01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: twenty and thirty years old. And when I opened him up,

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01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 1: he just died unexpectedly. I opened them up and his

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01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 1: whole entire body was just riddled with cancer all over

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01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 1: the place. It was just the craziest thing that I

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01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: ever saw in my life. And when we did the

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01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: histology on it and everything, and we were able to

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01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: determine that that was the cause of the cancer. And

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01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: it's a weird cancer that normally, you know, if people

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01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: smoke and stuff, these are risk factors, then they don't

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01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: really know what the risk factors are because it's so rare,

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01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: so there's not that much research on it, and they

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01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 1: just don't think it has anything to do with smoking

1378
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: or any current known exposures that people are having. And

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01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 1: they know that it's also not genetics, so they've studied that.

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01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: You know, people that get it don't have a history

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01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: of it in their family, so it's just it was

1382
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: really rare, and he was from another country and he

1383
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 1: was just I don't know if he was visiting here

1384
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: or he wasn't here too long. So I just kept thinking,

1385
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 1: I remember when I was doing it, thinking like, what

1386
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: the hell was this guy exposed to when he was younger?

1387
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 1: And maybe like they just don't really know what causes it,

1388
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 1: but that was that was one of the more memorable

1389
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 1: cases that I have. One that I want to see

1390
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: that I've never seen as citis in versus. So that's

1391
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:37,600
Speaker 1: when the thoracic or the chest organs and the abdominal

1392
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: organs are a complete mirror image of each other, so

1393
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: they're kind of you know, if you're looking at it

1394
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 1: like this, then it's flipped on the other side of

1395
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: the body. So it's it's really rare. It's a cool

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01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: it's probably like the coolest anatomic thing that you could

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01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 1: see as as a pa. One of my I believe

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01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,879
Speaker 1: one of my friends in school saw it on a fetus,

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01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: but I don't. I haven't really actually talked to anybody

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01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: that's seen it in real life because it's pretty rare.

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01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 1: Didn't you know a story of a guy that had

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01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: it and they were like pranking the medical students and

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01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: asking them to take his heart. There was his heart beat. Yeah,

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01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: there was a story of one of the radiologists that

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01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: worked at the hospital I worked at that would trick

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01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 1: students into he would have them do x chest X

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01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: rays on him and try to trick them because his

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01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 1: heart was in an opposite direction that it should be

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01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 1: on the X ray. But but yeah, that's it, all right.

1410
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 1: I thought that that would be like amazing to do actually,

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01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 1: but no autopsy unfortunately. Do you think peeing in the

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01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: shower is gross? I don't. I don't really care. I don't.

1413
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: I don't really get grossed out by much, so I mean,

1414
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: what's the difference. It's just a hole that it literally

1415
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 1: probably connects to the same exact pipe as your drain

1416
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: from your shower it. I mean, wouldn't you argue that,

1417
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: like the soap from your body's cleaning up if you

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01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: use soap, If you use soap, I don't Yeah, I

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01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: mean I just I don't really care. Like if you're

1420
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: trying to get for an argument for someone in your

1421
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 1: family not doing it, I don't know. It's just it's

1422
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: just like whatever you're like, I'm not gonna say I

1423
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,600
Speaker 1: never did it, but like I don't actively do it.

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01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 1: It's like just clean your shower and there's already soap

1425
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 1: in there and it's going in the same pipe anyway,

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01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: So who cares? All Right, last, do you guys have

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01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: any Christmas traditions? Yeah, we go to Nutcracker every year

1428
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:43,759
Speaker 1: and just the girls though, Yeah, I think Gabis secretly

1429
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: would want to go though we can't. We cannot. I'm

1430
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 1: not letting them. I'm not allotting them. I'm just saying

1431
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 1: that he would actually enjoy it. This is a nice

1432
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 1: like ladies who lunch day and then we go see

1433
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: the Belt and with other Maria who's like our adopted

1434
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: sister slash Ant. Yeah, so we do that and we

1435
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: do Longwood Gardens. We just started doing that a couple

1436
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 1: of years ago though. Yeah, but that's good yeah, that's good.

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01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: We have our family Christmas party every year. When's it

1438
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: the two families for Mom's side and pop up side

1439
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: and then well Momm's side party now is like Valentine's daytime,

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01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: So like yeah, so yeah, if that's what you mean,

1441
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 1: like we, I mean, we do Santa. We do the

1442
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 1: stupid elves, although I wish I never did that, Honestly,

1443
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: what Lillian told me the other day that one of

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01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 1: her friends never had elves, and I was just like,

1445
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, she's a genius. You also have like

1446
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 1: five of them, which is unnecessary. Well that now they said,

1447
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: oh my elf has a pet. One of the kids

1448
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 1: in the school, Elf has a pet. And I saw

1449
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: the pets and I'm just like, no, I can't even

1450
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: keep track. Well, this is Lulu's last year believing in Santa.

1451
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: Probably it has to be. I mean just like I'm

1452
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 1: literally like the kids are at school right now, and

1453
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: I just like look out in the hallway and like

1454
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: whispered a little bit because I'm up so used to

1455
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 1: being quiet about talking about Santa. But yeah, but Annette's

1456
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 1: kids are are way older, and she's still I mean,

1457
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: I haven't believed three years and she still does the

1458
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: elves for them, Like the kids like it still, you know,

1459
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: It's just it's a lot easier when do you want

1460
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 1: to hear something funny? So we went to a home

1461
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 1: store the other day, me and Lulu, and she saw

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01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 1: one of the elves that looks like her elves. Because

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01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: I started, I didn't get like the real elf. I

1464
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 1: got like the stuffed animal one because Lilian was a baby,

1465
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 1: and I just didn't think that one through all the way.

1466
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: And she goes, can I touch this one since it's

1467
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 1: not magic, since it's not my elf? And I was like, yeah,

1468
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: you can touch it, and then she picked it up

1469
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: and she's like squishing it and she's like, so this

1470
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 1: is what it feels like. And I'm like, oh my god,

1471
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: I feel like almost guilty. Yeah, but it's so cute.

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01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 1: I think you have to tell her after this, your

1473
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: kid's getting old. But she is an older kid in

1474
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: her grades, so the kid, you know what I mean, Yeah,

1475
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 1: there's kids in her class that are still nine. So

1476
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: I think that it's it's good for the kids to

1477
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: be innocent as long as they can. But yeah, we

1478
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: do that, and we do Santa and all that stuff,

1479
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 1: and then I sleep at your house every year and

1480
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 1: help you set up Sanna, And yeah, I don't know

1481
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: why you wait till that night to wrap all the presents,

1482
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 1: but it's normally, like now, last year I didn't. Normally

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Speaker 1: it was us staying up until like three o'clock in

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Speaker 1: the morning setting everything up, and then the kids wake

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Speaker 1: up at like six, which is awesome to have three

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Speaker 1: hours of sleep. Remember, like a couple years ago, we

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Speaker 1: we like didn't watch the new The Sex and the

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Speaker 1: City just like that show. Yeah, like we didn't watch it,

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Speaker 1: and we were like, let's save it, and then on Christmas,

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Speaker 1: evil watch it since we're up like hours doing these presents,

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Speaker 1: and we were like so disappointed. I was disappointed anyway, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like at this point, you only watch it out

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Speaker 1: of nostalgia. You don't watch it because it's good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it definitely is not good. And last year it

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Speaker 1: feels like a bomber on Christmas Eve. I probably shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have did that last year. Did we watch that Megan

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Speaker 1: and Harry thing or was that the year before? I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but that was good. I feel like last

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Speaker 1: year we were done so early and I'm like, should

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Speaker 1: I go home and go back. It never it never

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Speaker 1: happened before that. We were done before midnight, so I know, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, we we because Gabe just

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Speaker 1: puts the stuff together, you know, like this year they'll

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Speaker 1: be Lillian wants another vanity, so he's gonna have to

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Speaker 1: put that together, like God, get it to the start now,

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Speaker 1: so he's not up till five o'clock in the world

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Speaker 1: do it. Well. I'll never forget the Frozen Barbie castle

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Speaker 1: that took him forever? Did it both hit? We're him

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Speaker 1: and Ricky putting it together. I don't know that was Rios. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was definitely wasn't Ricky. He wasn't even in the

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Speaker 1: picture when that happened. I thought it was the first

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Speaker 1: year we were together. I don't think so, because they

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Speaker 1: were into Frozen when they were like two years old. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Lulu was two when we started going out. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe these a first year we're together. Anyway,

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