WEBVTT - Magic vs Matt Kemp 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:06.320 Is this a great game or what with the Hall 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:09.639 of Famer Tim Kirkshin, I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshin and Dad. 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.560 Yesterday the Little League World Series kicked off, which is 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:15.920 so exciting to watch and be a part of. And 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.360 we're going to be in Williams Sport interviewing Karl Ravich 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:23.160 and Todd Frazier for a double interview. You're gonna get 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:26.200 multiple episodes from the Little League World. 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:28.920 Series next week here on the podcast. But really things 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:29.560 kicked off. 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.440 For Little League on Tuesday because you were in the 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:36.960 Big Apple, the city that Never sleeps, you big city guy, Dad. 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:39.520 You were there for a big premiere right. 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:43.080 Right, the premiere of the movie Big Dreams, The Little 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.760 League World Series twenty twenty four. This was Dick Sporting 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:51.640 Goods first foray into filmmaking, essentially, and it was a 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:56.360 fifty one minute documentary about last year's Little League World 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:59.720 Series that is directed by Rudy Valdez, who I met. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.960 What a wonderful guy and what a great film it was. Jeff. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.240 There were probably one hundred and fifty people there to 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:11.119 watch the filming. Alex Rodriguez was there lending, you know, 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.520 advice to the kids and we had a roundtable and 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.360 I was the moderator and it was really really cool 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:22.000 in New York on Tuesday night. I had a great 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:25.000 time and can't wait for the Little League World Series 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:28.360 to get full blown. And I Jeff, it's not going 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:32.480 to be an interview with Carl Ravage and Top Prager. 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:34.520 It's going to be a free for all. It's just 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.640 going to be a four way conversation about the beauty 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.279 of the Little League World Series. I know what you're saying. 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.319 You're absolutely right. But they'll be interviewing us, we'll be 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.840 interviewing them. It's all the same thing. It's great. 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:48.680 Yeah, if you happen to be in Williams Sport, I 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:50.840 know we're probably talking to a very small audience. We're 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:52.560 going to be a part of the game changer in 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.640 Dick's Sporting Goods setup, and so you can come join 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.960 us on Monday, August the eighteenth. We're going to be 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:03.520 there record and signing and giving away pins. It's going 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.120 to be a really great time. And then you get 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:10.240 to hear everything we filmed and recorded at Little League 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.840 World Series on the Tuesday and Wednesday episodes featuring A 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:19.040 Gonna Go Heavy Air quotes interview with Todd Frazier. 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:19.760 And Carl Ravich. 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:21.640 Dad to be able to go to the Little League 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.960 World Series with you now back to back years, well, 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.160 excuse me, back to back to back years because if 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.600 you remember, my wife Emily let me go to the 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:37.200 Little League World Series seven days after our daughter was born, 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.239 which I don't I've mentioned it on the podcast, I 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.840 think earlier this week or last week by far, the 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.560 greatest wife move ever because I brought her dad in 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.079 order to go and we had a blast. 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:49.799 We had a great time, right and this was the 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.040 Little League World Series is all about? Is that Alex Rios, 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:56.520 your father in law. He went there a because he 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.600 loves baseball, but just as important, he went there to 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:05.480 support Team Mexico because he is of Mexican heritage. He 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:09.519 didn't know anybody on the team, but that wasn't the point. 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:11.960 There are a lot of people who can't travel from 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:17.440 Mexico to Williamsport, so Alex Rios went there to support 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:22.560 Team Mexico. That's another beauty of Williamsport. A lot of 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.480 people just show up to watch the baseball, have no 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.720 connection to it whatsoever, and others just want to show 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.800 up and support their country. And I think that is 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:37.760 one of the really really cool parts of Williamsport and 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.400 that was brought out so beautifully in this fifty one 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:45.080 minute documentary, which I must say, Jeff, it made me 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.800 laugh and it made me cry. It was really a 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.160 powerful fifty one minutes about what the kids go through 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.880 how to get there. It was really good. 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:56.880 I mean, it really is special. 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:01.000 So it's a new ESPN films well, and how you 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.960 can watch it. It's actually going to be debut. It 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.160 was just debut, Dad, you had mentioned. 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:09.120 Tuesday night at nine to thirty Eastern. Was it's a 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.480 debut on television. I'm sure it'll be. It'll run a 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.960 bunch more times. They strongly suggest you watch it if 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.360 you like baseball and if you love Little League World Series. 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.000 It's right up your alley. 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.239 And you can check out the ESPN Little League World 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:26.719 Series hub page. ESPN Plus has the documentary, so you 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.279 can check it out there. All right, Dad, let's jump 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.560 into the takeaways of Major League Baseball. 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.400 All right, Well we got to go with the Brewers again, Jeff. 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.520 Through Tuesday they'd won twelve games in a row. They 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:42.040 joined the thirty five Cubs as the last two National 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.599 League teams to have two winning streaks of at least 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:49.039 eleven games in one season. That's how good they are. 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.360 They're different than everyone else, Jeff. They put the ball 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.240 in play, They're relentless on the bases, they have more 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.440 steals than any team in the National League. They go 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.680 first to third, second home, and the manager of the 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.920 team is just he's priceless. Pat Murphy. I've known him 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.200 for years and years. I always loved being around him. 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:11.200 But it's a different deal when you're the manager of 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:13.200 the team and you know, he's in his mid late 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.960 sixties and he's an old school guy who will get 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:17.880 right in your face and tell you the truth. But 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:21.000 he's also got a really soft touch. So when he 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.600 was the bench coach for the Brewers, you know, kind 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:28.359 of showing the way to Craig Counsel. As the manager 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.159 of the Brewers, he was the professor. He was the 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:35.000 teacher of Craig Counsel. And now the teacher is showing 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.559 everyone how to manage a baseball team. But I remember 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.640 Jev in twenty twenty one, this is what Pat Murphy does. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.520 These are the little things he does to keep the 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:47.560 team loose. So he came up with this idea. If 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:51.839 any Brewer pitcher draws a walk as a hitter, this 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.200 is bat when back when pitchers had to bat, draws 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:59.600 a walk without swinging the bat. During the ad bat 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:04.680 he he gets a four foot wooden statue that goes 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:10.320 into his locker as you know, as a memento of hey, 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:13.040 you did something really good. You walked in a major 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:17.120 League game, and you did it without swinging the bat. 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.680 So I didn't even know what this was until a 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.120 couple of years ago. I went in the Brewers clubhouse 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:28.559 and Adrian Hauser, one of the pitchers, explained the whole 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:30.400 thing to me because he had this. I said, what's 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.159 the deal with the wooden statue? And he explained the 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.320 whole thing, and he goes, it's in my locker right now, 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:40.039 and he was basically saying, I'm really proud of this, 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.919 and it will stay. It would stay in his locker 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:47.000 until the next picture on the Brewers drew a walk 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.599 without swinging the bat. Those are the little things that 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.880 Pat Murphy did as the bench coach and now does 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.200 as the manager of the team in order to keep 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:01.159 that team focused, loose and thinking about something other than 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.760 just sliders on the black. Yeah. 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:08.560 I think there's a balance between just enjoying yourself in 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:12.160 the game and being super competitive, and when you have 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:16.200 that balance, it's beautiful. The expectations of you know, going 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:17.960 back to the World Series or going back to the 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.520 NLCS when it comes to like this great example of 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:24.080 the Mets right now, the expectations are heavy. The Brewers, 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.080 I feel like, are just living in this great time 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.680 with very little expectation and a whole lot of positivity 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.200 and a lot of excitement surrounding that clubhouse. So I 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.640 would love to see a Brewer's run. I'm just going 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.840 to say it right now, Dad, We root for the 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:40.800 story here on Is this a great game or what? 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.880 Despite me saying yes, I am a Phillies fan because 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:45.680 my wife and my daughter we watch the games all 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:47.240 the time because we're local to the area. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.640 I also root for the story and the Brewers going 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:54.120 to or winning the World Series would be a great story. 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.160 Jeff. They've only been to one World Series nineteen eighty two, 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.760 which was the first one that I ever covered, and 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.200 I will never forget it, and they've never won the 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.800 World Series, so this would be really cool. And then 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.400 they're the Mariners, Jeff, who've never been to the World Series. 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.200 So they were seven games back on July the tenth, 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.240 and they have found a way to tie the Astros 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.800 atop the American League West. That will be a fistfight 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:21.640 for the rest of the season. And again with every victory, 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:25.000 you know, the case gets better for cal Raley being 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.480 the MVP. And I'm not going to argue with anybody 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:31.040 who wants to vote for cal Raley's the MVP because 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:34.360 the word valuable really fits exactly what he does with 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.520 this team. Just one little thing about MVP's, Jeff, how 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:41.079 much things have changed. Okay, cal Raley's hitting two forty 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.880 five to forty five and we're talking about him being 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:49.400 the MVP. Now. We don't value batting average today, Unfortunately, 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:53.680 I still think it's an important category. Best. The teams 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.520 with the five best records in baseball as of the 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.679 other day had the five best team batting averages in 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:03.320 base Is that a coincidence? Maybe not so. But the 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.880 point is there are only three MVPs who have ever 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:10.760 hit under two seventy and won the MVP that year. 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:14.080 Roger Maris hit two sixty nine in nineteen sixty one, 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.520 Marty Marion hit two sixty seven in nineteen forty four, 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.199 and Show Hey o'tani hit two fifty seven and won 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:26.080 the MVP in twenty twenty one. So that's not going 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:29.160 to hold cal Raley back, even though I still think 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.320 Aaron Judge is the MVP. The point is cal Raley's 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:33.960 going to get a lot of votes, and I'm not 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.080 going to argue with anyone who votes for that guy, 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.400 given his leadership and how elite he is. 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.440 Defensively, well, imagine we can have cal Raley as an 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.880 al MVP and then an NL cy Young to have 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:51.280 more losses than wins in Paul skeinst That would be unprecedented. 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.079 That'd be crazy, right, it would be crazy. Paul Skeins 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.920 could win the Cy Young without winning ten games and 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:00.480 with having a losing record. That's possible given the lack 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.760 of support. And last thing, Jeff, the Padres caught the Dodgers. 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:08.000 The Padres were eight games back on July the fifth, 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.120 and with this charge they've made and the Dodgers are 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:14.560 really scuffling, they have tied the Dodgers. And this is 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.080 one race to keep on, to keep your eye on 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:18.959 for the rest of the way because they play each other, 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.120 I believe six more times this season. So it's just 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.720 it is a free for all every time they get together. 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.760 I think it's the best rivalry in baseball now, even 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:32.160 better than Red Sox Yankees, because they don't like each other. 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:36.200 And clearly the Padres are not intimidated by the Dodgers, 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:37.720 which is half the battle. 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:39.720 All right, Dad, let's jump into the quirk Jins, what 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:40.120 do you have? 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.600 All right? So, driving home from New York Tuesday night, 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.559 I was listening to the Yankees Twins game among many 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.880 other games on the radio, and they were making a 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.680 big point Twins broadcasters. They should have been that the 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:54.400 Twins got their leadout batter, Austin Martin, got a hit, 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.640 and then they didn't get a hit for the rest 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.560 of the game. So the first batter of the game 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:02.240 got a hit and were held hitless every bat for 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.760 the rest of the game. And they were talking naturally 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.760 and correctly. You know, how often does this happen? We'll 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:12.240 get this, Jeff. It's happened two other times this season, 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:16.120 which I found a little bit surprising. Josh Smith and 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.120 the Rangers did it. Let off a game with a hit, 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.040 no hits the rest of the game for the Rangers, 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.280 and Victor Roblaze of the Mariners same thing. So just 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.280 when you think, hey, that's kind of unusual, well it's 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.120 the third time it's happened already this year, which it 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:33.480 just speaks to how great baseball is, how quirky baseball is, 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:37.080 all sorts of amazing things. Speaking of which, the first 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.560 inning in that game, Aaron Judge hit his fourteenth home 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:44.040 run in the first inning. Okay, the record is eighteen 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.559 homers in a first inning in one season. Aaron Judge 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:52.240 and Alex Rodriguez hold that record. Just for comparison, the 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:57.200 Cardinals have seven homers as a team in the first 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.760 inning this year, and Aaron Judge has twice as many 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.960 by himself. There the Cardinals have only scored thirty seven 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.959 runs in the first inning. It's just bizarre how some 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.560 teams get off to a great start and others. And 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.320 speaking of the first inning, Jeff Paul Skens gave up 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.320 a run in the first inning the other night to 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:19.679 the Brewers, first time after twenty four straight starts without 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.320 allowing a run in the first inning. He gave up 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:26.240 a run in the first fell short then of the record. 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.760 There are records for these things. Bob Schockey in nineteen 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:34.160 twenty three when his first twenty seven starts without allowing 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.200 a run in the first inning. Jeff, didn't somebody write 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:40.640 in about grand slam so the Royals? What was that about? 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:42.680 Yeah, well, someone was watching. 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.880 A member of our family was watching the Royals game, 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.840 and the broadcasters for the Royals we're talking about how 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:50.880 the Royals have yet to hit a Grand Slam in 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:56.360 this season, which I kind of found to be suspicious. 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.320 Is that common? This is Sean Knowle who did that 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:00.640 post dead ball era. 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.160 Has there ever been a season where a team has 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.160 played a full season without hitting a Grand Slam? 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:04.920 Was his question? 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.040 Yes, there have definitely been seasons like that. And this 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.720 year the Royals, the Rangers, the Nationals, the Twins, and 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:16.359 the Cardinals don't have a Grand Slam, and the Diamondbacks, 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:20.560 who are a sub five hundred team, have nine Grand slams. So, Jeff, 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.680 grand slams don't don't make any sense. I've told you 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.720 this before. Willie Mays hit eight Grand slams. You would 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:28.960 think out of his six hundred and sixty homers, he'd 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.040 hit more than eight. Now, it's not a criticism. Al 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.400 Kline at three hundred and ninety nine homers, he had 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:38.480 three Grand slams. Don Mattingly, as you know, hit six 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:42.000 Grand Slams in one season, which is the record, and 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.559 they're the only six Grand slams he ever hit in 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.600 his career. And he hit him in one season. 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:49.280 It's crazy. 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.360 How do you explain that, Frank Robinson, I've told you this. 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.640 Jeff played six years for the Orioles. He hit two 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.800 Grand Slams in those six years, and they came in 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.800 the same game. Now think about that for a second. 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:06.199 It's just beautiful. The whole Grand Slam thing makes absolutely 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.880 no sense. Who hits him, who doesn't hit him? I 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.160 told you Pete Rose and Derek Jeter each hit one. 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:16.319 Madison Bumgardner, a pitcher, hit two. So he hit as 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:21.000 many as Rose and Jeter did combine in all their bats. 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.800 And last thing, Jeff Pete Alonso became the all time 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.480 home run leader for the New York Mets two in 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.520 one game on Tuesday night to give him two fifty four, 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:35.600 passing Darryl Strawberry. So now there are four active players 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.720 who are the home run leaders for a team, not 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:44.320 necessarily their team, but a team in Major League Baseball. 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:49.360 So Pete Alonso's one Mike trout as the most homers 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:55.480 in the history of the Angels. 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:57.000 Is Gian Carlos Stanton for the Marlins. Yes, I was 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:58.400 thinking Jeffy hit. 0:14:58.280 --> 0:14:59.840 A lot of bombs for the Marlins back. 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.880 Yeah, that was very good that that was going to 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.280 be the tricky one. Manny Machado's hit the most for 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:09.200 the Podra I was gonna quizz you. This guy doesn't 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.600 play for that team anymore, but he's the all time 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.840 home run leader for that team as an active player. 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.640 And it's John Carlos Stanton for the Marlins. 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:18.880 Let's go. 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.360 I got a question, right, and you didn't even have 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:22.960 time to ask it yet. 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:26.880 Right, Jeff. I'm proud of you. Look, I'm quoting music 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:31.480 lyrics and you are coming up with arcane baseball statistics. 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:32.000 You got it. 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:39.000 What has happened to this podcast? Like Freaky Friday? 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.360 No, Jeff, no matter how we switch roles, I'll never 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:46.200 be able to sing and dance like you. And uh yeah, 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.840 and that's I wish because I don't. 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.080 I've heard you go start to finish on taking me 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:52.440 out the ball out to the ball game. 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:53.440 It's not that bad. 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:57.120 Well, all right, I'm a better singer than I'm a dancer. 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.760 But I've asked you before, Jeff, could you teach me 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.520 how to dance? The answer you say yes, I say 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.440 the answer is no. I think it's like asking me 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:10.640 to be taller. I think natural rhythm is precisely that 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.840 natural rhythm. You either have it or you don't, and 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:15.080 I don't. 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:17.520 Do you think you could? And I'm not trying to 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:17.920 be funny. 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:21.440 I'm genuinely comparing it to teaching somebody to field a 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:22.400 ground now. 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:23.360 I sure know that. 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.760 Well back up, I'm not saying at the major league 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:28.880 level and da da da, But I'm saying, there is 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.000 a rhythm to sports. Do you think you could teach 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.520 somebody to shoot a free throw and make it look 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:36.280 athletic like? 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.400 Yes, I think over time you. 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:42.040 Could teach anybody anything, a lot of practice, a lot 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:45.240 of mind ours, but it might take some people longer. 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.200 And I think it would take you longer to learn 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:47.760 how to dance. 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.320 Yeah, I think so. I have no chance of learning 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.680 how to dance. I have great feet. I will tell 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.320 you that, Jeff, you catch ground balls with your feet 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:59.280 and uh, but my feet do not translate to dancing, 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.800 so that we're we're not going to talk about this anymore. 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:02.600 It's two embarrassed. 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.159 That makes sense why I committed so many errors as 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:06.840 a kid, because you told me to catch him with 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:08.879 my feet, so I'd end up kicking the ball. 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:10.600 It was all messed up. 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.720 So next on, is this a great game? Or what 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.160 we've got on this state in baseball history? From Ozzie 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:18.760 to Oral? A brand new team Tim and the best 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:20.840 of all Tim Plus the team had lots coming up 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:30.080 next on the state and baseball history. Welcome back to 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:30.960 is this a great gamer? 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:31.560 What what do you have? 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:35.000 Debt? Well, Jeff I got four birthdays. Nineteen seventy two, 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.199 Jan Pierre was born. I haven't checked the stat lately, 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.439 but the last time I checked, Jan Pierre had the 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:45.399 most hits of anyone who never made an All Star team. 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:49.159 He was a really good defensive outfielder. He could really 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:51.399 get a hit. And I'll never forget Jeff I so 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.439 enjoyed being around him because he was a self made player. 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.800 He outworked everyone. I went to a game at the 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:02.119 Vet in Philadelphia long before the Citizen Bank was born, 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.120 and he was out on the field at twelve thirty. 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.399 I got to a game at twelve thirty seven o'clock start, 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.000 which tells you a little something about me. There was 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.720 one player on the field and that was Juan Pierre 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.320 at twelve thirty in the afternoon, and he was rolling 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:22.320 the ball down the third base line in order to 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:26.000 see how the ball rolled in case he bunted down 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.840 the third base line, and I said, you know, I 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.000 went and talked to him, like, what are you doing 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.400 and he goes, well, I'm just working on seeing where 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.840 a bunt might go if I bunt out. This is 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.520 the level of precision that it took for him to 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:43.600 be a really good player. He outworked everyone and that's 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:46.399 the perfect example. So love want Pierre really good player. 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:49.200 Yeah, you know, we talk about Tony Gwenn obviously Hall 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:53.800 of Famer and taking nothing away from his unbelievable athleticism 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:56.119 and ability to get a hit. But we talked to 0:18:56.200 --> 0:19:00.359 his son and Tony Gwinn, I think, is he not 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:03.160 a Hall of Famer if he doesn't work the way 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.639 he worked. He worked harder than everybody else. He was 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.040 watching tape of every pitcher. He was a studier of 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:12.000 the game and once again taking nothing away from his 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:15.479 athleticism and his ability, but he just worked harder than 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:16.920 everybody and had the career he. 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:17.600 Did because of it. 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.400 He did. Tony Gwen was a great athlete, but you're right, 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.480 he outworked everyone and that's why and was. 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:25.639 A great athlete of course, all right, But he could 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:27.760 throw a mean bounce pass right. 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:31.679 Oh yeah. So since we had Joe West on yesterday 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:34.840 as our guest, having an Umpire on, I just think 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.000 shows a little depth to this podcast. We need to 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.960 see different we need to hear different voices, and I 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.199 love to talk to Joe West the other day. So 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:46.440 on this date in nineteen fifty nine, Dale Scott Umpire 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.400 was born. So I only tell you that, Jeff, because 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:54.200 I was in the Umpire Fantasy Ejection League at ESPN. 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:58.080 It's the only fantasy's game I've ever played. No baseball, 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:01.360 no football, no basketball. Just don't have time for it. 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:05.000 Baseball is a it's a conflict of interest for me 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:08.320 to be, you know, having a fantasy team and then 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.720 rooting against somebody when I'm covering the team and I 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.280 have to be the game. I have to be objective. 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:18.800 But so I drafted my team, and jud Burt from 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:21.000 ESPN was the one that put all this together. He 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:25.840 was our officionado on umpiring. So the point is Dale 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:30.600 Scott was on Steve Berthune, who's my former, you know, 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:36.320 colleague at baseball tonight, and Bert drafted uh Dale Scott. 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:39.200 So we're doing the baseball tonight at like one fifteen 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:43.480 Eastern time in the morning, all right, and nobody is watching, 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:47.440 so Bert like Steveerthue like blurts out on the air. Hey, 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.560 Dale Scott, whenever you want to throw somebody out, I'm 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:53.800 ready for you. And then later in that game, Dale 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:57.040 Scott threw somebody out of the game. I'm man, he 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:02.880 ejected someone. You win the higher ejection fantasy league by 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.560 your draft four umpires, and whoever has the most ejections 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.480