1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, and welcome to the latest edition of 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: the Falcons in Focus podcast, presented by Ticketmaster. I'm Scott Behar, 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: that's Tory mclaney. Falcons wide receiver Cadero Hodge is joining us, 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: and we couldn't be more thrilled because, as we admitted 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: before we started recording this podcast, we spent our entire Thursday, 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: which is when this is going on tape, going down 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: a caderrel Hodge TikTok rabbit hole. We spent most of 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: the day going over one video after another being like, Oh, 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: that one's really funny, that one goton views? How is that? 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: So I feel like we have to start there. 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: Give us the origin story about how this turned into 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: such a thing. You have almost one hundred thousand followers, 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: You've had a number of videos go over a million 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: that I've seen, and for those that haven't gone hit 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: pause on the podcast, go to give him the. 16 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: Right go to it. Consume a couple. 17 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: They're funny and interesting and so, now, with the intro 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: laid out, tell us how you got started with this thing. 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: Actually, I've been I've been doing this since since my 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: freshman year of college actually, but it's been on like 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: a couple of different apps I think we use. I 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 3: even use Vine back in the day, dub smashed, like 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: all types of things. But eventually I wanted to build 24 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 3: my Instagram and TikTok things, so that came along. And 25 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: I've dropped a couple of videos lately this year and they're, 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 3: like you said, they've been kind of trending, and so, 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: uh yeah, like I'm gonna I'm gonna keep building on it. 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: I think it's I enjoy doing it. It's something I 29 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: like to do in my in my free time. And 30 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: uh yeah. 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: So there's one that's called uber Driver picking me up 32 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: after final memosas have. 33 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 4: I had a friend who sent that to me, like 34 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 4: right when when you first dropped it, and she was like, 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 4: this is so funny. This is so us And I 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 4: was like, you know who that is, right and she 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 4: was like no, and I was like that's good. Daryl 38 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 4: was like, he's one of the receivers on this team. 39 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: Oh man. 40 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: So it's just so funny that, like, you've created this 41 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 4: content that a lot, it's reached a lot of people 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: and it's very very funny. But that one in and 43 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 4: of itself. 44 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: Is very good. 45 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, what I've noticed. I've noticed the more things I'll 46 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: do that you can like based off like real life situations, 47 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: more people can relate to, and those are the things 48 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: that trend. So I've kind of started to dig in 49 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: the more like videos like people can relate to and 50 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: people actually do and find find funny like oh, I've 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: done that before. I've been here before. So I think 52 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: I think that's where a lot of my engagement comes from. 53 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like when you see something go, let's 54 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: say on average there, I don't know, twenty thousand, just 55 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: throwing a number out and then you see one to 56 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: go to two point four, one point eight around one million? 57 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: Are you just staring at your phone like oh? 58 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: And then it starts trending on Instagram right, and then 59 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: it becomes like a whole thing, like like what goes? 60 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: It was crazy the first video I seen that that 61 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: actually started trending, and I was like, okay, it's like 62 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: a ten thousand. I'm like, okay, I'm doing something. Then 63 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: I'll look like I probably go play the game or 64 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 3: go work out, and I start seeing my phone like 65 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 3: get a lot of notifications. I'm like WHOA, Like what's 66 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: going on? And it'll go from ten thousand to one 67 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: hundred thousand to five hundred thousand like an hour or two, 68 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, it's kind of big right now. Okay, 69 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: I was like, it's kind of big. Like that was 70 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: like my first time going viral, so it took me 71 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 3: by surprise. But I was like, okay, I might be 72 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: onto something, but uh yeah, Like I enjoy doing it, 73 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: so I'm gonna keep doing it. 74 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: Do you have one that is your favorite that you 75 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: look back on. You're like, pen, I'm really funny one. 76 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: I don't gas my stuff like that. The ones I 77 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: actually feel like I put a lot of work into. 78 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: Those are the ones that don't trend as much. 79 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 4: That's on TikTok because TikTok is just random, random, just 80 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 4: like random, the most random crazy things are the ones 81 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 4: that actually work. 82 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I put like I've done some 83 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: videos and I'm changing costumes. I'm like, oh, yeah, this 84 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: is the one, like this is gonna go and boom nothing. 85 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: But then I'll make one and it'll be like I 86 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 3: mean or out, like okay, I just need something to 87 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: post million I'm like, WHOA, Like you never know what 88 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: TikTok you gotta have the right time of the day, 89 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: the right hashtags, the right everything with TikTok. It's kind 90 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 3: of crazy, but I enjoy doing it even if it 91 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: doesn't go viral. I just like doing it in my 92 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: free time. 93 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: All right, I just have one more. I'm sorry we 94 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 1: keep harping on the same thing. I'm just fascinated about 95 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: how this turned in from like four or five thousand 96 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: to explosion, right, And I so like, how do you 97 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: you say you try to go out with stuff that's 98 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: like personal or that like people can relate to. I mean, 99 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: but like, are you strippting these things out? Are you 100 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: setting up your shots? Like how detailed are we getting? 101 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: Or like are you just being like this kind of funny, 102 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: like let's just try this sound. 103 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm more of like a try it. It'll be 104 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: more spontaneous. If I if I see a video and 105 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: I'm just scrolling through, whether it's like me lip sync 106 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: in a movie or a song or just trying to 107 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: bring a song to life like the Mamosa video, and 108 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 3: look at it from my point of view, I just 109 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 3: put it in my own mind and like do my 110 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: own spind with it. So yeah, it'd be kind of random. 111 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: I'll just be going through my throat, through my page 112 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: and whatever video I see, I'm like, Okay, I could 113 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: probably do this, but I can make a spin to 114 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: it my own way, and I think it'll be funny 115 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: that way. 116 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 4: I love it. Everyone go follow Kadero Hodge on TikTok plug. 117 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: You might lose a whole day doing it. 118 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 119 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, again, that's all we've been doing all day to day. 120 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 4: Like we get paid to do this. It's a great 121 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 4: a great time. So I want to talk you know, 122 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 4: we talked about TikTok, but one of your other hobbies, 123 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: and I will say hobbies because what you do is 124 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 4: pretty impressive too. We really are gassing you up on 125 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 4: this podcast. But I your game Day fits and I 126 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: do a show with the Kelly Price on Fox five. 127 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: It's called Rise Up Tonight, and we have a whole 128 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: segment where we do it's called Falcons Fits, and we 129 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 4: go over all of y'all's fits and we pick the five, 130 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 4: four or five best fits. I'll tell you this and 131 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: this is not me just like saying this because you're 132 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 4: sitting right here. You were on it almost every week 133 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 4: and the only the only reason, the only reason you 134 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 4: weren't on there every single time. Is because we felt 135 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 4: the need to like spread the love, and we're like, 136 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 4: we can't just keep We started calling you like our 137 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 4: King of Falcons fits because your fits were so good 138 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 4: last year. So please tell me the story of kind 139 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 4: of how you got into fashion and why it's something 140 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 4: that you have been gravitating towards for a little bit now. 141 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: I've actually I've always been in the fashion like growing up. Actually, 142 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: uh men, I have a toin sister, Me and my 143 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 3: twin sister. Growing up, we all always wanted to like 144 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: partner and and uh start our online own brand. And 145 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: she's more of the idea. She's actually more has more 146 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: fashion sense than me. But she she can sew. She 147 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: can do this. She can like put things together and 148 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: and make it look like something like on it like 149 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: when you put it on, you're like, oh, I didn't 150 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: think this to work. And she can. She's actually good 151 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: at this. So I really learned a lot from her, actually, uh, 152 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: and I just picked it up and kind of ran 153 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: with it, and uh, I look at different little pages, 154 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, I do love fashion. I think, uh it 155 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: brings a lot of things to life and people enjoy 156 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: watching it, so so yeah, it's something I really like doing. 157 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: Like I said her, I sometimes I do have my 158 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: uh my stylist in the background. I know she want 159 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: her little shout out. Rosa Vega. Yeah she been. She 160 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: been rocking with me since since my rookie year. We started. 161 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: We started out as a coming up together, so she's 162 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: been doing a good job. But yeah, I definitely love fashion. 163 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 4: Do you have a favorite fit from last year? I do. 164 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: Do you want to hear which one of mine? Yeah, 165 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 4: one I loved. I can't remember. It may have been 166 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay, but it was the It was like the 167 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 4: light blue leather pants with the tulip Oh, yeah, I 168 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: thought that was so cool. And I also really liked 169 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 4: the it was one of the last ones with the 170 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 4: like cream colored ripped pants with the big jacket. 171 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 3: Yeah that's that's that's the one. 172 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 4: I was going to say that one, that one was 173 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 4: I was going to say, yeah, I like that one. 174 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 4: I also thought the one the hoodie with the I 175 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: don't know what it's called. It's like a like Sistine 176 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 4: Chapel type of look. 177 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 178 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that one a lot. So those are 179 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 4: my top three. I appreciate it are those like your 180 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 4: top three or those were. 181 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: That's uh, I can't really think my offits right now. 182 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 4: But the. 183 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: One you mentioned, the one I said that was my favorite. 184 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: I had on a blue I think I had on 185 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: a blue blue coat. I can't really think. And it's 186 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: like blue and white. Yeah, yeah, I like that one. 187 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: And uh, the third one is kind of in the air, 188 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: be honest. The third kind yeah, there was kind of We're. 189 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: Going to have to include like a whole like gallery 190 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: in the I Know this podcast so you can refer 191 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: to it. 192 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind kind of like, what did you get up? 193 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 4: Are you the type that, Okay, before the season starts, 194 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 4: you have all of your fits picked out? Or do 195 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 4: you go week by week? 196 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: I tried to go, like I tried to do everything 197 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: before season, but it never worked out, and it ended 198 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 3: up I ended up going week by week. And like 199 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 3: I said, like she does her thing, like I don't 200 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: want to worry too much about it. I kind of 201 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 3: trust her and I let her put things together. She'll 202 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: send me things and I actually do I like this 203 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: and that, And I was like yes or no, but 204 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: I kind of let her do her thing and sit 205 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,239 Speaker 3: back and just try to bring it to life. Sometimes 206 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: we bump his but I'd be like, okay, I'll try 207 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 3: it out. But yeah, she does a good job. 208 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: So you mentioned that you have a twin sister. Now 209 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: let's kind of get into that a little bit, like 210 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: what was it like because you're from a small town 211 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: in Mississippi. Delo am I saying it right? 212 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: I sound like a California guy. 213 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm over here from checking my. 214 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: So growing up in a small town, you had other siblings, 215 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: but having a twin sister, Like, what was that experience 216 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: kind of growing up with somebody who was your age 217 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: you obviously? 218 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we are basically best friends to today. Uh 219 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: talk whenever whenever we need to talk. We kind of 220 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 3: feel when each other's off about something. But growing up, 221 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 3: I would say we done everything together. We really got 222 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: to the point to where in school, like they wouldn't 223 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: even put us in the same class anymore. Like it 224 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 3: was like we was always together, like growing up, like, yeah, 225 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: that's that's definitely my best friends. We used to share 226 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: everything whenever we could, no problems. It was actually I 227 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: think we got into like one little fight in our 228 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 3: whole life, and that's the only time we ever really 229 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: just bumped his But yeah, I rock with her. I 230 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: got her back, she got my back to them. 231 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 4: Now I was looking up and correct me if I'm wrong. 232 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 4: But y'all, your mom gave y'all nicknames. You were big Red, yeah, 233 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 4: and she was a little Red. What's the origin story 234 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 4: behind these? 235 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 3: Actually, my grandpa gave us all nicknames, all all his grandchildren. 236 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: Actually we all, we all have nicknames, and most of 237 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 3: them stuck. Hers Ben stuck. Her name is Kadija. We 238 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: just stuck with ja. A little Red no longer exist, 239 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: but bigger d does. And if you say bigger head, 240 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 3: then I know you're from Mississippi or you're from somewhere 241 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: around the area. If not, then most people call me 242 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: red or or something like that. But uh, growing up, 243 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: a lot of people couldn't actually say Caderoo. If you 244 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 3: see my name on paper, I done heard the worst 245 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: of the world, Cadrell, Cordell. I'm like, man just got 246 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: me red or bigger head at this point, so it's 247 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 3: it's stuck. Even in school, the principals, the announcers at 248 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: the games, they would be like bigger Red Hodge or 249 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 3: something like that. Like they wouldn't even say Caderrel anymore. So, yeah, 250 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: it kind of stuck and that's what I rock with 251 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: to today. 252 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 4: Wow, I didn't know that it was like that deep 253 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 4: like that it had you know, been apart. That nickname 254 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 4: has been a part of your life. 255 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: Whole life. Like if you if you know me, I'd 256 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: rather you say bigger red or red like I would 257 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: say that. I'd be like, how you doing? My name 258 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: is Caderol, but you can call me red instantly because 259 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 3: I know, like they're like what Carderoll? Like, Okay, that's unique. 260 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, and you said your grandfather gave 261 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 4: it to you? Yes, do you know why? 262 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 3: I don't know why that's. 263 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 4: The best nicknames? No one knows. 264 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: I do not know why he stuck with uh with 265 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 3: read It could be a light skinned thing growing up, 266 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: but I don't know, honestly. Uh, he just I'm talking 267 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: about he gave every one of us, It's like twelve 268 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: of us, and he just spinning out nickname as soon 269 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 3: as we're born. So we just kind of stuck with it. 270 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: So you I'm not going to pronounce the town's name anymore. 271 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: I've lost the right to do that. 272 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 273 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: According to Wikipedia anyway, it's like four or five hundred 274 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: people gas station, Like, how many stoplights? 275 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: We're talking, we're talking no stop no stoplights? Oh wow, yeah, 276 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 3: no stop lights, stop signs. Wow, just stop. 277 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 4: The reason we asked that is because we had Troy 278 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 4: Anderson on the podcast last season and he was like, 279 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 4: we have two in Dylan, Montana. He was like, but 280 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 4: one of them stops working at like ten o'clock. 281 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the stop light goes all dangerous. 282 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, so. 283 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 4: You don't need it anymore. It's after ten pm is out. 284 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: But no. 285 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: So that's why we asked that. It's because it's like, okay, 286 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: we're looking at Delo, Mississippi that only has four hundred 287 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: people in it, how many stop lots? Because the stoplight 288 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: to people ratio has to be. 289 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 3: Yes, no stop lights. And I think about it, we 290 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: have we have no stoplights, and it's it's probably three 291 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: hundred people three oh one including me, but uh yeah, 292 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: well I think we do not have any stoplights all 293 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: stop signs. 294 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: So like, what was the I know, you're only what 295 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: thirty forty miles from Jackson, but like live growing up 296 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: as a kid, you're not going you're not traveling thirty 297 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: seven miles all the time. But to grow up in 298 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: a small town like that, Like what was the experience 299 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: like for you and how did that kind of maybe 300 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: shape who you are? 301 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: It was big actually because growing up in that small town, 302 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: it's like everybody knows everybody, and my house was we 303 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: call it the block. Everybody come on the block. My 304 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: house is the house. Like everybody came to to play 305 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 3: football or basketball. All the kids come around, we take 306 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: our bikes. We'll meet up in my place and we 307 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: will probably go around the whole the whole city just 308 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: riding bikes or playing basketball. So it was big, like 309 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 3: basically everybody's family at that point. Everybody, like all the 310 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: kids will be outside like uh, I say, from seven 311 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: am to seven pm or whenever the lights the street 312 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: lights come on. We just like I said, to this day, 313 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: it's still like one big family. Like they anytime I 314 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: have anything going on with the falcons or anything going on, 315 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: like they'll gas me up. They got my back and 316 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: they they'll remind whoever is against it. So yeah, they 317 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: they rock with me heavy. 318 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: I love that when you are kind of like going 319 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 4: through your ernie even just to get to this point 320 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 4: and we'll talk more about it, but you know, at 321 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: every point when I was reading about your story, it 322 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 4: was like, you know, you'd go home for a little 323 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: bit and then something would happen, and then it take 324 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: you somewhere else, and opportunities kept taking you different places. 325 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 4: How gratifying did it feel for you to always have 326 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: deal of Mississippi to go back home to. 327 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it means a lot, because that's always some way, 328 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: That's always the place I can come back to and 329 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: be like, no matter what's going on in my life, 330 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: they got my back. Like I can feel down at 331 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 3: times and I can feel like I'm not I'm not 332 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 3: doing enough to myself. But when I go back home, 333 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: the kids, the parents, the everything, They're like, you're on 334 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: the right track, You're doing this and that right. A 335 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: lot of kids look up to you. You and that 336 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: gives me that that extra mm to like keep going, 337 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: because you never really know who's looking at you until 338 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 3: you get that, until you hear it, and it's like, Okay, 339 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: this is bigger than just me, Like I'm playing for 340 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: more than just me. So anytime I go back home, 341 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 3: I try to talk to as many kids as possible, 342 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 3: even if I'm just going up to the high school 343 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 3: and I usually work out by myself, but if some 344 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 3: kids passed by, try to try to just tell them 345 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: some knowledge, like it's more than one way out, whether 346 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: it's sports or any type of career. You don't have 347 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: to settle for anything like go get yours, So I 348 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 3: try to give them the input I didn't have grown up. 349 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: And there was a time where you went home. I 350 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: think it was after you went undrafted, right, and you've 351 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: had like a couple you had a couple of teams, 352 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: like at your pro day, but then kind of to 353 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: go home and reset, right, I read it something that 354 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: you were basically like running routes on your own back home, 355 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: like no quarterback, no ball, right, just running routes on 356 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: your own by yourself. What what was that experience like? 357 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: And kind of like what you there because you're obviously 358 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: still trying to live this NFL dream and you're just 359 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: doing whatever you can and then you ended up getting 360 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: a work out with the Rams that worked out for you, right, 361 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: But that experience, right, sticking with it when you could 362 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: have given up. What was that experience like for you 363 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: going through it and then the gratification of coming. 364 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: Out of it with the opportunity that you were looking for. 365 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: It was tough actually, Like you said, I had a 366 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: little pre like ota workout with the Rams, and I 367 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: didn't make it. So I went back home and I 368 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 3: wasn't getting any calls or anything. So I was the 369 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 3: quarterback you know, in high school, and I was usually 370 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: the one throwing at everybody, So at this time, I 371 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 3: didn't have anybody to throw to me. 372 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 373 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: Interesting. 374 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, So now I'm like, I can't I gotta sit around. 375 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: I can't just sit around and do nothing. Like I 376 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 3: never gave up. I never I never never gave up hope. 377 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: Really like I always felt like I was good enough 378 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 3: to play in this league. So I'm like, I'm not 379 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: gonna be the reason. I'm not just gonna sit around 380 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 3: and wait for nothing. It's like, as long as I 381 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: do my part and put the work in and trust 382 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 3: in what guy's got, guy's playing, it'll work out. So 383 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 3: I kind of did my part, stay prayed up, and 384 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 3: I just let him work and I just go out, 385 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 3: like I said, day every day I was doing two days. 386 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: Whenever I wake up in the morning, work out, I'll 387 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 3: go run routes as much as I can, just on air, 388 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 3: like just catching nothing. But I just wanted to wanted 389 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: to get that get those repetitions in, and eventually it 390 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 3: was kind of frustrating because now you you've gone from 391 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: everybody always looking up to you, from star quarterback to 392 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 3: success in college to now like you have no answers 393 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: about what's really the next move in your life. And 394 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:58,479 Speaker 3: you got people from this way saying Okay, it's probably 395 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 3: over with, and you got people here you were saying okay, 396 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: you can keep working, and it's like what you're gonna 397 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 3: do for yourself? So you like really dig down deep 398 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 3: and ask yourself, like what do you really want? Like 399 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 3: I asked myself what do I really want? And it 400 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 3: was to play in the NFL. So I don't really 401 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 3: I don't really care about what what a lot of 402 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: people say I can't do. Like as long as I 403 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: know I could do this, then it'll work out. So 404 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: I kept working out and it's crazy, like I said, 405 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 3: I think I said. I don't know if I said 406 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: this before or not, but I was talking to my 407 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 3: twin actually and I was kind of down, you know, 408 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 3: it was one of those days I was kind of down, 409 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 3: and she just said, do you pray? Like, do you 410 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 3: actually pray enough? Like, do you actually like just tell 411 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 3: them what you want? I was like, I an't really 412 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 3: think about it that way. So I started praying more, 413 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: telling them what I what I actually wanted. And one 414 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 3: day I was winning. I was in church. It's crazy. 415 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: I was in church and I just happened to go 416 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 3: to at the call and asked him like and I 417 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 3: told him what I wanted, and walking out of church, 418 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 3: the rams got called and I was like, whoa, the 419 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: rams got caught and he was like, are you in shape? 420 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, of course, like yeah. He was like are 421 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 3: you are you ready? Like we want to bring you 422 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: in for a workout. I'm like, how soon can you come? 423 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 3: I was like I could come right now if you 424 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 3: want me to. And they flew me out and I 425 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 3: ran the rod. I did the workout, and when I'm 426 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: walking out the field, they told me I made the 427 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 3: team and I could just I just like dropped my 428 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: knees right there, like like God is real, Like as 429 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 3: long as you do your part, have faith and just 430 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: let him do his work, it'll work out. 431 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 4: It's really powerful. I mean to when you get that 432 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 4: call and you're standing there kind of just outside of 433 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 4: I mean, in that moment kind of what's going through 434 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 4: your head because like what you're saying, you're like I 435 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 4: had people saying, you know, go do something else, of 436 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 4: other people saying, hey, no, lean into this. Follow what 437 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 4: you're doing to get that call? How much of how 438 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 4: much of not just to weight off your shoulders, but 439 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 4: how much of it was a reassurance that like, yes, 440 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 4: what my dream is is what I'm supposed to be chasing. 441 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 3: Yes meant a lot. It's just a second chance. And 442 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: that's what I feel like if I got this second chance, 443 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 3: then they would have to kick me out this league, 444 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: their stuff, Like I won't be I won't be the problem, 445 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 3: Like hard work won't be the problem because I feel 446 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: like God gave me this check second chance for a reason, 447 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: so I just know me doing my part won't be 448 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: a problem. Like like I said, hard work positionless like 449 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: took the pride out of the game. Like I'm here 450 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: for a reason and you can use me whatever way 451 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: you need to use me. What it is special teams, 452 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: it's receiver, it's whatever, Like I'm here to do my 453 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 3: job and trust God. 454 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 4: Basically, Now do you think you could be an emergency 455 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 4: quarterback as well? 456 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 457 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: Quarterback? 458 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think I've seen you know, you see 459 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 4: some things. I think you could do it. I think, yeah, yeah, 460 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 461 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. I kind of I kind of be 462 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 3: putting the bug in the area. Sometimes they don't believe me, 463 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 3: but I talked. Just tell Arthur, yeah, I talk a 464 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 3: little noise every now and then and try to hit 465 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: the goal post to show him like, okay, you've seen that, right. 466 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's always fun to mess with the quarterbacks. 467 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: I tease them be like okay, QB four. But yeah, 468 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 3: it's always fun playing with those guys. 469 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you were a quarterback in high school. Your 470 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: cousin Steve McNair, right, yeah, yeah, and uh and you 471 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: you played some quarterback before switching to wide receiver, which 472 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: ultimately you know was a good move. I guess here 473 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: you are, but like, maybe talk about that period because 474 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: you kind of you went to Alcorn State first and 475 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: then you like as a quarterback, and then bounced to 476 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: Heine's Community College and then went to Prairie View with 477 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: your old offensive coordinator. 478 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then ended up kind of thriving. 479 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: As a wide out. Yeah. 480 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: That was I mean, that's a crazy Yeah, it was. 481 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: Crazy Like I went to All Corn. I always wanted 482 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 3: to play quarterback. I never uh like, I never really 483 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 3: played any other position but quarterback, and uh I had 484 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 3: other offers and they wanted me to play safety or receiver, 485 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 3: but in my head, like I feel like I didn't 486 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 3: want to play anything else. So I took the offer 487 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 3: to All Corn. Uh I did my freshman year there 488 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: and I read shirted it. I read shirted there my 489 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: freshman year. Things that it wasn't really going the way 490 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: I wanted it to go, and uh I kind of 491 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: felt like I had needed to make the transition into 492 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 3: a receiver, so I went. I ended up going to 493 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: hansk Haines Community College in Mississippi. Total shocker. Yes, first 494 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: first time playing receiver against actual defense and did not 495 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,479 Speaker 3: go to where planned what's supposed to go. Was getting jammed, 496 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 3: I admit I was. It was like a whole new thing, 497 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 3: like looking from the quarterbacks like it's like, okay, I 498 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: could do this easy, like it's just catching the ball really, 499 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 3: but I didn't really know like the ends and nots 500 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 3: of receiver, like how to get open and everything, and Okay, 501 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, this is it's probably harder than 502 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: what I thought it was. So I actually didn't get 503 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 3: a lot of playing time at HANS. Like I actually 504 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: didn't play at all, to be honest, And that was 505 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 3: another question, Like, Uh, I got to that point after 506 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 3: the season, I'm like, well, I might have to go 507 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: h D two or something like that because I had 508 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 3: no film to go off of to uh interesting. 509 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, So and you were injured during that year too, right, 510 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 4: had like a broken thumb? 511 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, broken thumb. I actually broke my thumb at at 512 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 3: all corn And practice. I was throwing in a it 513 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 3: hit a guy's helmet and it was kind of on 514 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 3: some Flukes stuff for real. And after I left after that, 515 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 3: so I was recovering from my thumb and I was 516 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 3: kind of ready for the season, kind of wasn't, but 517 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: I kind of had no choice to just get in 518 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 3: there and play. And yeah, it just didn't go didn't 519 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: go as planning. So I wasn't getting a lot of 520 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 3: shine after the season. Again, it was back to just 521 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 3: praying and hoping and just working. And uh, like I said, 522 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 3: coach Simmons had ended up becoming the head coach at 523 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 3: preview and it was a random call and I didn't 524 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 3: I didn't know, he called me and it was like, 525 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: a like, who you got offering you? I'm like nobody, 526 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 3: and he was like, I just came. I just became 527 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 3: the head coach at Purview and them. I was like, okay, 528 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 3: well take me with you. He was like, he was like, 529 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: you want to go with me? I was like, I'll 530 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: ride with you there. And I didn't take a visit 531 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 3: or anything. So I just went straight there and kind 532 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 3: of worked out from there. I met up with my 533 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: grave receiver coach, coach Reggie Moore, and he basically trained me. 534 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 3: From from then to now, I worked for him. I 535 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 3: talked to him until now. He's more of a mentor 536 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 3: right now, gonna work when I can, But he basically 537 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 3: taught me the fundamentals from handout coordination to top of 538 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 3: the route to everything, and I just kind of put 539 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 3: that work in with him and put it in a 540 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: lot of work overtime, and the work eventually showed. 541 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 4: I'm glad that you brought up Reggie Moore because there 542 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 4: was a quote from you that you said and you 543 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 4: alluded to it here where you said, you know, he 544 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 4: developed me from the ground up. But what you were 545 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 4: when y'all first started working together and then what you 546 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 4: ended up being like three seasons later when it came 547 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 4: to your development with him, what was something that he 548 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 4: taught you that you look back on and even today 549 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 4: you're like, thank god, he drilled that into my head. 550 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 3: Fundamentals, fundamentals of the game. He's he's more of an 551 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 3: old school coach, so they really hammered the fundamentals. And 552 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 3: what I've learned now like, it don't matter how much 553 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 3: flavor you got, you can never get away from the 554 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: fundamentals of the game. And it's just the basic footwork, 555 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: the hands, the placement of everything. It's it always goes 556 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 3: back to the fundamentals. And he really drilled that. Whether 557 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 3: it's like I said, top of the rock, getting in 558 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 3: and out of cuts, eyes, catching the ball, tacking the ball, 559 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: it was everything always went back to the fundamentals. So 560 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 3: that's the big thing he really taught me. 561 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: I look back at it. 562 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: It's like the reason why I think we love doing 563 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: this podcast so much. Is there a people who probably 564 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: only know you watching you for three and a half 565 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: hours on Sunday and on your TikTok channel, Right, but 566 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: then you hear this success story coming from nothing and 567 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: really having a couple of valleys, and yet here you 568 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: are second year with the team, because you're first receiving 569 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: touchdown last year and are kind of like standing tall 570 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: as an example of kind of what can be created here, 571 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: and that I think is such a fun part of 572 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: this conversation. There's no easy way to turn to transition 573 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: from that to this. But we have a section of 574 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: the pod. It's called rapid fire. Sometimes it's not that rapid, 575 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: but it's essentially the same five questions everybody gets pressures 576 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: on are you ready? There's really no reason to be great, 577 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: But I just like to say that first on what 578 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: is your favorite play of your career? 579 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 3: High school, college, high school, anywhere. 580 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: Any your favorite highway anywhere. 581 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 3: It was actually in high school, I would say we 582 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: played our rival McGee Mcgie high school and I was 583 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 3: at quarterback. We did a little read option and I 584 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 3: really talk to them today every year. Every every year 585 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: when we're about to play down, I had like a 586 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 3: little read option play a quarterback and I probably I 587 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 3: don't know how it happened, but I probably juked like 588 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: the whole team. It was crazy, Yeah, it was crazy. 589 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: It was like a little sixty yard sixty yard run. Yeah, 590 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: it was. It was pretty smooth. I hate the gas. 591 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 4: It's okay, there, we'll find the video and we'll let 592 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 4: the video. 593 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, okay, that's pretty smool. 594 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 4: I love that and the fact that it's like, you know, 595 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 4: high school rivalry. 596 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 597 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 4: Next question, is there a movie or TV show that 598 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 4: you're really into right now? 599 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 3: Really into right now? I just finished Power Power Book 600 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 3: to Ghost. That's great. I've kind of I love Love 601 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 3: out of Banks, Love Out of. 602 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 4: Banks, stop it. I love Outer Bank. It's the craziest 603 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 4: show and it's like so unrealistic. 604 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 3: But but you can't help to get into it though. 605 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 606 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 4: No spoilers on the podcast. 607 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't want to talk about it. Yeah, 608 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: I don'tant to talk about it. 609 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: Comes highly recommended, Yeah, yeah, I guess I'll put it 610 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: on that. 611 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: On my list. Who's your favorite player regardless of sport. 612 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 3: Player? Regardless? I say Brian Probably Brian for sure. 613 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's only been doing it. 614 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, King James. It seems like he does not only 615 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 3: everything right on the court, but off the court, he 616 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: like like his everything is in order, Like everything he 617 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 3: does it seems to be like goes up. Yeah, he's 618 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 3: he makes the right moves like I don't know, he 619 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 3: just got the right circle around him and everything like 620 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 3: he does it the right way. 621 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: Is there And it could be home cooking. 622 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: It could be a restaurant from where you're from or 623 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: where you are now. It's like, what's a meal that? 624 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: Oh, it's it's definitely mom. 625 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 4: I was about to say you what didn't she you 626 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 4: were talking about all the kids came over to y'all's house. 627 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 4: I read something that she cooked for everybody. 628 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Sunday you already know what's going down. We 629 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: have the soulful Sundays. Soulful Sundays, that's the last middle 630 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 3: of Earth. That's gonna be soul full. Fried chicken, you 631 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 3: got greens, you got yams, you got macaroni, you got 632 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 3: the pound cake, you got everything under the sun that's old. 633 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: It's gonna hit you the right way. That's gonna give 634 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 3: you the itist about thirty thirty minutes you everybody sleepy. 635 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 2: It's down. 636 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 4: There's there's something special about the nap after a soul food. Yeah, 637 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 4: type of moment you think of. 638 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 3: I think you wake up thinking it's the next day. 639 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: Type of what. 640 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 3: I missed all. 641 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 4: Right, last one. Uh, if you could have a superpower, 642 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 4: what would that super power by? 643 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 3: I probably say teleport. I always wanted to teleport. I'm 644 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 3: like kind of a last minute wake up guy. Yeah, 645 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 3: that'll be perfect, Like I can wake up, I can, 646 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 3: we got means at eight, I can feel like I 647 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 3: wait by step seven, brush my teeth washed, my face, boom, 648 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: get here like okay, right from the other. Yeah, I'm here. 649 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's awesome, Caderrol, thank you so much for 650 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: the time. Thanks to everyone who tuned in, downloaded, however 651 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: you consume this podcast and listened. 652 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, can I say something? 653 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 654 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah. I just wanted to say appreciate you 655 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 3: off of you know what I'm saying, have me on 656 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 3: this show. And I didn't mention this while we was 657 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 3: talking about the TikTok. But I do want to become 658 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: an actor after football. Forgot to mention that. So Tyler Perry, 659 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 3: if you look in, if you watch Tyler hit me up, 660 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: I'm I'm raw talent, I'm ready, I'm ready. 661 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 2: Well there's no better way to end a podcast than that. 662 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 2: So thanks everyone for downloading and listening to. 663 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 4: Falcons Focus, especially Tyler Perry. 664 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: Especially Tyler Perry was definitely tuning in down. If not, 665 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: we'll just like send this to the. 666 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 4: Studio people will get in touch with your people. 667 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming, see you