1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans. This one's 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles and only 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: the truth lives here twelve Apostles, apostles. Guess who's back? 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: The Pack twelve Apostles are back back like crap um back. Twelve. 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Basketball is upon us. Uh, we're down to the final 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: four in the tournament and we will see who's gonna 7 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: win it and what they're gonna do in the tournament 8 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: in Oregon State? What the hell happened to them? Lincoln 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: Riley's house details go viral thirt team Mintley bro I 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: wonder if he's just gonna helicopter in um J. T. 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: Daniels maybe on the move to court Vallis, Colorado hires 12 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: a coach, Coach Leaves, and then there was a lie involved, 13 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: and inexplicably Washington moved two games to Friday night, two 14 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: games to Friday night. I hate it with a passion. 15 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: This feels very Washington, very very Washington. Um. I'm George 16 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: Rice Stir He's Ralph Amason And this is the Pack 17 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: twelve Apostles, the podcast BIPAC twelve Fans, four Pack twelve fans. 18 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: When you get the absolute truth, absolute fire all the time. 19 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: So we will start though with the Pac twelve basketball tournament. Ralph, 20 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: I don't I am having a rough year in my 21 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: sports fandom, well, a rough one season, essentially because of 22 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: what happened to my Dodgers last year, what happened to 23 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: uh the Laker, what's happening to the Lakers this year? 24 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: And then last year in the playoffs being so injured 25 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: and all of that, and then my Oregon Ducks the 26 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: football team fell apart at the end of the year. 27 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: There's two Utah games and then the coach leaving, and 28 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: then the Bowl game was atrocious too, and then Pact 29 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: twelve basketball. I'm thinking it's gonna be a typical Dana 30 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: Altman season. Start out rough, getting the transfers to jail together, 31 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: and this year it didn't come. Not even gonna make 32 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: the tournament. At least we're better than Oregon State in Washington. 33 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: That's all I can say. Oh, you're you're playing that game, 34 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: the justification game. Shout out to Oregon State. By Oregon 35 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: State did something I've never seen before in my life. 36 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: They won three games in the and C Double A tournament, 37 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: and then they won three games in two uh n 38 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: C double A regular season amazing. They went three and 39 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: twenty eight this year, including like eighteen straight losses or 40 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: nineties straight lasses broke. A bunch of those losses that 41 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: they took were a couple scored games, so it's not 42 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: like they spent the year getting blown out. They just 43 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: it was close, but no cigar and about half of 44 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: their their twenty eight losses. But I genuinely you you 45 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: quoted some stat to me where you had said that 46 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: there were some teams that had gone to the Elite 47 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: eight and then been twenty lost teams the next year. 48 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: But I I'm gonna go ahead and guarantee, without all 49 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: the facts in front of me that nobody has ever 50 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: won three games in the tournament and then only three 51 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: games the following season. There's no way. Yeah, I just can't. 52 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine that. So you said, uh, um uh, 53 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: what about their coach? Right? Like what? Yeah? Do you 54 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: give him grace going into next year? Like? What what 55 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: do you do in that situation? Because obviously it's nowhere 56 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: but up. But if they only win ten twelve games 57 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: next year, they're gonna make a change two years after 58 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: having a deep tournament run, maybe because it feels it 59 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: feels like you know it's broken, right, like that would 60 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: be You're you are allowed, you know, a an outlier season. 61 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: You I mean, you are allowed that. Even John Calipari 62 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: has had it, so has you know, Mike, Mike Saschowski. 63 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: Great coaches have had outlier season. Sometimes you don't recruit 64 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: the way you thought that you were going to recruit. 65 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: Tiko got a bunch of transfers in had three returning starters. 66 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: It just didn't work. So you are allowed to do that, 67 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: but you gotta fix it in short order. Are we 68 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: rooting for this? Podcast is probably gonna come out or 69 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: people will listen to it after the game is already over. 70 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: But I want to know from you. George Kleafkoff openly 71 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: said he's rooting for upsets in the FACT twelve tournament 72 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: so that they can get an extra team, like he 73 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: gets it right? Are we rooting for Colorado to beat 74 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: Arizona so that we can possibly get a fourth team 75 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: into the tournament because it's it's it's gonna be probably 76 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: three teams unless Colorado does something special. Right, Probably, dude, 77 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: George Clicoff does get it. He's the one who is like, 78 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: I am so bullish on him as the commissioner right 79 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: now because he gets it, because he knows that if 80 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: you have more teams that are already guaranteed tournament bound, right, 81 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: I mean, Arizona is gonna be a one seed. So 82 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: now if they get knocked off by let's let's say Colorado, 83 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: now Colorado has a legitimate shot to make the tournament. 84 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: That could be the thing that seals their tournament birth. 85 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: And now, as we saw from last year, people like 86 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: we're down in the Pack twelve, pack twelves, garbage, this 87 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: and that. And then they came out and maybe had 88 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: four teams in the Elite eight or three, no, three 89 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: teams in the elite or the four teams in the 90 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: Elite eight. I believe they had four four last year 91 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: there were four teams that went on quite a run. 92 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no no, three teams in the four teams 93 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: in the Sweet six teams three in um And that 94 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: to me sent a real message that that the Pack 95 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: twelve can do it, that there is not a problem. 96 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: And I loved it, dude. I was excited. And I 97 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: think that he's right now. On the women's end, we 98 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: may need some upsets as well. Because last year, the 99 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: entire Pack twelve felt like the top of the Pack twelve, Oregon, Arizona. Yeah, Oregon, Arizona, 100 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: U c l A, Stanford. We're all top ten teams 101 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: for the majority of the season. This year you only 102 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: have two Pack twelve teams ranked. That's weird because Oregon 103 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: hasn't lived up the expectations they've been there. Um. Yeah, 104 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: So it looked like Arizona State was gonna mount a 105 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: furious come back. They won six of their last seven 106 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: going into the Pack twelve tournament, and we're up fifteen 107 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 1: points with two minutes and change left to go against Stanford, 108 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: and then they completely collapsed, lose the game seventy and 109 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: uh and their season comes to an abrupt end. And 110 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: then you have UM. Both both Oregon and I feel 111 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: like in Colorado both have a lot of good wins 112 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: but a lot of ugly losses. Maybe perhaps a Colorado 113 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: team playing UM an Arizona team that lost Kurt Crisso 114 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: to a to an ankle injury at the end of 115 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: last night's Arizona went over Stanford, maybe they have what 116 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: it takes. I don't know though, if it's going to 117 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: be enough for them to get in the tournament. If 118 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: they just make the Pack twelve Conference Championship final, they 119 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: might have to win the whole thing. Yeah, oh yeah, 120 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: yeah you are. You are going to have probably Arizona 121 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: with a one seed in the tournament and in u 122 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: c l A with a two or three. Though, yes, yes, yeah, 123 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: the the the basketball teams are doing a good job, 124 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: and I would not be surprised if Arizona wins the 125 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: whole thing. But I cannot say that I am. I 126 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: am kind of shocked at how good it that this 127 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: team has turned around since Sean Miller left, Like, like, 128 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: how has he been able to get this team to 129 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: be so good so fast? I think that Sean Miller 130 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: was really really good at recruiting, and we can talk 131 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: about whether or not that was a legitimate skill or 132 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: an extra curricular um skill. And what's odd about this 133 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: program potentially being a favorite to go really deep in 134 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: the n C Double A Tournament, maybe even win it 135 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: is they're still waiting on possible sanctions come down off 136 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: of that whole thing book Richardson served jail time. You 137 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: know how stupid that is. Everybody is going to be gone. 138 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: Everybody is gonna be gone. That was a part of 139 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: that situation, and then you end up like like that, 140 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: it's terrible. Are you gonna feel the same you? Are 141 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: you gonna feel the same way about Arizona State football 142 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: when twelve months from now after herm retires, that they 143 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: end up with sanctions on a program that he's not 144 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: even involved with any more, and that Antonio Pierce was 145 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: allowed to resign from and all that stuff. Yes, yes, alright, 146 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: just making sure because there's some people out there that 147 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: think that you are rooting for fire and brimstone to 148 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: rain down upon Tempee. Um. Yeah, no, dude, it's the 149 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: same exact situation for Arizona State as it is for 150 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: everybody else. Is that if you're gonna punish people, it 151 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: just quote unquote justice needs to be swift because if 152 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: you don't, everybody's gone because everybody knows that the punishment 153 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: is coming, so they're taking life rafts on the way out. 154 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, So so this stuff needs to be handled 155 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: earlier and in a much different way. Um. Lincoln Riley, Um, 156 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. What the details of his new mansion came out, 157 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: and mind you, he moved from a one point six 158 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: million dollar house in Norman Oklahoma to a thirteen million 159 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: dollar house in California. And now this house looks amazing. 160 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: The details on this thing are absolutely fabulous, and you know, 161 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: and and I mean so much. The funniest part about 162 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: this is that you have full buy in from Colin Coward. 163 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: Colin Coward, he retweeted the details of the house and said, 164 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: my coach deserves the best. My coach his daughter just 165 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: his daughter just graduated from Arizona State. But okay, yep, 166 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: oh no, no, he he He had readily admits that 167 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: that there is that there is bias as it relates 168 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: to him that he's a big coast, big city bias person. 169 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: You know. Do do you know where he got his 170 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: agree from. It was a small it was a small 171 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: school in Washington, right, Yeah, he's a big sky guy. 172 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: Eastern Washington, Redfield yep. So yeah. So but here are 173 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: the details. Thirteen thousand square feet, seven bedrooms, twelve bath 174 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: Sorry it was seventeen point two million. I apologize. It's 175 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: ocean front, five car garage and elevator, seven fireplaces, a 176 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: movie theater, a tennis court, a putting green, a sauna 177 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: and steam room, a six hundred bottle wine room, and 178 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: a guesthouse. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 179 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 180 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart 181 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: Radio app. Search f s R to listen live. Now, 182 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: you're an l A guy. Do you have any idea 183 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: where this neighborhood is that he ended up in? Yes, Yes, 184 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: it's in Palace Vergus. Okay, it's so neighborhood. So he's 185 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: going to have neighbors that are equivalent or bigger or 186 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: bigger some movie producers and whatnot. Yes, he he doesn't 187 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: have the biggest house on the block. Let's just say 188 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: that he's got a nice house on the block, but 189 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the best house on the block. I 190 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: did check to find out what the nicest home within 191 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: thirty minutes of Norman, Oklahoma was, and it ended up 192 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: being like a three point four million, twelve acre ranch 193 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: on a lake that was seven thousand square feet, like 194 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: five bedroom, five bath and it was three three point 195 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: four millions. So why they have the exact same number 196 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: of bathrooms as there are rooms? See, I've never I've never, 197 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: I've never understood that when you when you start looking 198 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: at some of the mansions and the mega mansions, how 199 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: the bathrooms you end up with way more bathrooms than bedrooms. 200 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: That's somebody who as somebody who dabbles in real estate. 201 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: Why why is that? Why the bigger the house, the 202 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: do you have way more bathrooms than bedrooms because you 203 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: have a lot of common area and you don't want 204 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: people using your bathrooms like in your room. So every 205 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: room in a big house is gonna have its own 206 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: individual bathroom. Sometimes if there's kids, like they'll have a 207 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: jack and jail, but pretty much all the rooms have 208 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: their own private bathroom. And then you need bathrooms in 209 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: common areas. And you're talking to a person who has 210 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: more bad bathrooms than bedrooms in my in my house. 211 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, and there's also a bathroom outside next to 212 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: the pool like washroom. I need to get on your 213 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: level because I'm I'm currently sitting I'm currently sitting at 214 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: four bedrooms, three bathrooms with another two bedrooms being built, 215 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: so I've almost got two to one. Yeah, So so 216 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: we have for what we use it for, right, we 217 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: have one too three four five bedrooms and one too 218 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: three four five six bathrooms. And then in office in 219 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: um office, my studio area, and this is this is 220 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: what people come to the pack Too of Apostles podcast 221 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: for is uh the co hosts counting bathrooms a man. 222 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: But but I will say, for Lincoln Riley in his 223 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: bathroom house in l A. Is it gonna be enough 224 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: to keep him around? Yes? Yes, even if the Arizona 225 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals come call in or some some somebody like that. Dude. Yes, 226 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: you think they're thinking, dud they Okay, So his quality 227 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: of life here has I mean, assuming that his wife 228 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: likes it here and kids like it here and all 229 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: that stuff. Right, assuming that that's the case, he's not leaving, dude, 230 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: it is very hard to leave that to go coach 231 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: the packers. And like you're like, ah, man, this weather, 232 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: I gotta go back out to that cold. I like 233 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: looking at the ocean every day, buddy. I like I 234 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: like smoking a cigar, you know, hearing the waves crash 235 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: against my you know. Uh, I don't even know what 236 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: the hell you call that thing, the retaining wall or 237 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: whatever it is. It sounds like he's in a cliffside castle. Yes, exactly, 238 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: That's that's what he is. So yeah, so I think 239 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: that Cliff Kingsbury is in it for the long haul. 240 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: P there's a lot of people that think that, Oh, 241 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: us USC fans on their board are literally like, yo, 242 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: we have a chance to make the playoffs this year. No, 243 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: you don't. You don't have an offensive and a defensive line. 244 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: Until you get big people, you don't have anything going. 245 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: You can win every seven on seven tournament though, every 246 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: seven on seven tournaments, and in the off seas you 247 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: can win them all. I pick you first because you 248 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: got a quarterback. You've got guys, but you know they're 249 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: short at linebacker, they're short at D line, old line 250 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: do their their secondary was a mess last year. So yes, 251 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: I am very concerned, Like I think, expectations need to 252 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: be tempered at USC. They will be significantly better than 253 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: last year, but not anywhere close to a playoff team, 254 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: because as soon as they play, you thought they're gonna 255 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: get the they're gonna get pushed up and down the field. 256 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: So what do you think? What do you think that 257 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: your typical Oklahoma fan who is still in denial about 258 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: the idea that uh that anybody could ever leave the 259 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: Sooners and if they did leave, there not a truth sooner? 260 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: What do you think that they're thinking when they look 261 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: at that house, would they have made the same decision. Bro. 262 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: Do you watch Twitter? Do you watch what? What? What? 263 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: People say? Oh my god, you I can't believe you 264 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: moved out to that ship whole California. Yes, yes, people, 265 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: California is the worst place on earth. Do not come 266 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: out here. It is a it is negative, it is terrible. 267 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: Like listen, listen, you you you will barely make it 268 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: out alive. Do not come out here, please. I would 269 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: I would love to talk to somebody who would swear 270 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: up and down that they would turn down a hundred 271 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: ten million dollars over ten years, plus a five million 272 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: dollar housing allowance, plus they bought your home in Norman 273 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: to move on the beach. I really would love to 274 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: just talk to that person. Hey, I really enjoy force 275 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: were seasons so much, so much. I'm gonna stay stay here, dude. 276 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: If they offered that to Luke Fickle, Luke Fickle would 277 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: have taken it. And he loves this sin that he 278 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: loves Ohio. If you offered him that exact same like, 279 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: if you were like, hey, yo, do you want to 280 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: switch with Lincoln Riley salaries house everything right right now, 281 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: he'd be like, cool, all right, I'm out. Yeah, I 282 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: don't I'm definitely I don't I don't blame the guy. 283 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: I think it's good for the PAC twelve. Um. I'm 284 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: interested to see if it means that the PAC twelve 285 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: South window gets slam shut or if Utah got enough 286 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: momentum to to provide them arrivals enough runway to still 287 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: be able to compete and they can do it this year, 288 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: then if they knock them down this year, they will 289 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: continue that moment momentum, but they cannot lose to USC 290 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: this year. Otherwise that creates a perception like, oh, it's 291 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: USC's time, and then you're that affects recruiting everything else. 292 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: You gotta do something different. Um. Another team that needs 293 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: desperately needs something is Oregon State. The Beeves need a 294 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: quarterback and the one of the quarterbacks that we talked 295 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: about earlier in the earlier this year was j T. Daniels, 296 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: who is well j T Daniels who's leaving Georgia but 297 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: he's not gonna leave until after spring ball, and uh 298 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels. We both said that they both should be 299 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: looking to go to Oregon State, and j T. Daniels 300 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: ended up at l s U, which Jaden ended up 301 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: at yeah, Yeah, Jaden ended up at l s U. 302 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: I don't like that move. I feel like he made 303 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: that move because he felt like that was a big 304 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: name program and instead of going somewhere like Colorado State, 305 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: where they're gonna throw the ball around you, you just 306 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: have Jaden strong Um, who is going to be a 307 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: high NFL draft pick. I just don't like I think 308 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: he chose that. Now he's in a QB competition where 309 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: he may lose it. I don't think that was a 310 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: smart move. I think he just jumped on the on 311 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: the you know, because it was l s U and 312 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: he wanted to be in a big program as opposed 313 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: to you know, what was necessarily the best move for him. Uh. 314 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: He's kind of out of sight, out of mind for me, 315 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: Like I wish him the absolute best, but he didn't. 316 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: I would have been really excited if he stuck around 317 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: in the in the Pact twelve because we got to 318 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: watch him for two and a half years, two and 319 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: a quarter years and and uh, and get familiar with 320 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: what he can bring to the table. And he got 321 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: a couple of big wins um. You know, Michigan State, 322 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: Oregon UM some really really good home games at Sundeville Stadium. Uh, 323 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: but I would say that, you know, I'll tune in 324 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: if he's playing. But for the most part, they got 325 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: a decent quarterback crop out there, and that's a really 326 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: tough place to go in and and elevate who you 327 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: are offensively. You know, we're talking about somebody who hasn't 328 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: had a three hundred yard passing games since his freshman 329 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: year against Oregon. We're talking about somebody who averages hundred 330 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: seventy passing yards a game and about one point for 331 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: total touchdowns both rushing and passing, you know, and somebody 332 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: who didn't appreciate some of the heat that he was 333 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: getting and whose family didn't appreciate some of the heat 334 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: that he was getting in Tempe. What do you think 335 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: is gonna happen If you throw one interception, one bad 336 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: interception at l s U, You're gonna have the entire 337 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: South calling for your neck, because that's that's what they 338 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: do there. So you know, I definitely um wish him 339 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: the best and hope he's ready for all that. I 340 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: think it's an interesting fit and I do want him 341 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: to succeed. But for the purposes of what I pay 342 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: attention to during the football season. This is pact Felth 343 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: centric for a reason. We started this podcast for a reason. 344 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be a lot more focused 345 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: on you know, J T. Daniels if he ends up 346 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: in Corvallis than I am um Jade Daniels in in 347 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: Baton Rouge. But do you think J T. Daniels would 348 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: be able to go in there to Corvallis and unseat 349 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: jb Um And they're returning starter who I'm assuming is 350 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: they they wouldn't be looking if they didn't think that 351 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: he could be unseated. I think it's very possible, right See, 352 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: I like their incoming freshman. I like Throckmorton. I wouldn't 353 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: be surprised if he would. I see Throckmorton every week 354 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 1: because he works out with my with my son, so 355 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: I see him all the time. Throck Rockmorton is definitely 356 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: gonna have the um. The only reason why I don't 357 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: think he's gonna have the potential to do that is 358 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: because I don't think he checked in early. Okay, yeah, 359 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: that's a big deal. Yeah yeah. So not not going 360 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: through spring Brawl makes it very difficult for a freshman 361 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: order back to come in and you know, and really 362 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: could compete. So but I've seen him so much that 363 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: I don't think that he's at school already. So but um, 364 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: but let me check to be a It's like, look, 365 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: if he was in Corvallis, I would know because I 366 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: see him every single week, but he died. I feel 367 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: like he'll fit really well in in in Jonathan Smith's 368 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: offense kind of reminds me of Jonathan Smith a little bit. 369 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 1: But as far as as far as J T. Daniels, 370 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, he's got a national championship under his belt. 371 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: Albeit he got injured and got replaced by Stepson Bennett 372 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: at Georgia. He had his time at UM at USC 373 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: where I felt like he looked impressive as a freshman, 374 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: even though I feel like he was maybe trying to 375 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: do too much, which is the same thing I feel 376 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: like that happened to uh to Jackson dirt Um. But 377 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: you do have Missouri who was in the market for 378 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback. And if you were j T. Daniels, you 379 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: played at USC and you played at Georgia. If if 380 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: it came down to Oregon State or Missouri, what are 381 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: you gonna do? I say, you go, see well, Missouri 382 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: and Oregon State kind of have the same situation. They 383 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: have a bunch of guys on the roster who haven't 384 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: really played a ton. But at Oregon State you have 385 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: Jeva coming back off of his knee injury, and then 386 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: you have the kid that started this last year. Um, 387 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: so listen, I don't know, man, I think that when 388 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: you're in j T. Daniels position, I would probably be 389 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: even looking at at um Colorado State, I'd be looking 390 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: at anywhere that I had the best path to being 391 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: on the field, like that's like that's my you know, path, 392 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: Like I am getting on the field as soon as possible. Yeah, 393 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: it is. It is funny that we're, you know, looking 394 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: to replace Chance knowing after he had a nineteen touchdown 395 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: ten interception uh season, and we the whole time we 396 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: were like, Jade Daniels are going there and replace Chance 397 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: Nolan right away, when Jane Daniels threw ten touchdowns and 398 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: ten interceptions last year. So maybe maybe we're all gonna 399 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: look stupid for for dismissing Chance Nolan. And I do 400 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: know that they're like Tristan Jevia, Um, but I do 401 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: I do think I believed for a really long time 402 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: that they're just an elite quarterback away from making serious 403 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: noise in the Pac twelve North. And I just I 404 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: know in my heart that Chance Nolan is not that 405 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: elite quarterback. No, you are on right. Fox Sports Radio 406 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch 407 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com 408 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: and within the I Heart Radio app search f s 409 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: R to listen live. So, Ralph Washington did something that 410 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,239 Speaker 1: I absolutely hate, like that, they did something that I 411 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: absolutely hate and makes zero sense to me, zero sense 412 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: to me. So Washington moved two of their football games. Now, 413 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: like I can't imagine that their stadium is busy during 414 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: you know that that anything else has priority over their stadium, Like, 415 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that anything else, you know, ranks ranks 416 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: higher and stuff to do than Washington football. But they 417 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: decided to move the u c l A game. Well, 418 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: the the u c l A game is moved to 419 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: Friday night, and that one's at u c l A 420 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: and the Oregon State game and that septe and the 421 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: Oregon State game was moved to Friday on November four. 422 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: Can you explain to me why anybody would do that? 423 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: Like it is so asked backwards because the recruits that 424 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: you're trying to recruit are playing football on Friday nights 425 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: and then they're going to go hang out with their 426 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: with their friends. Yes, and then on top like, I 427 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: just don't understand, Ralph, it makes zero sense to me. 428 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: They did move the Apple Cup back to Saturday. Do 429 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: you do you think that's a good exchange so that 430 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: recruits can see Washington versus Washington State instead of the 431 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: Friday after things. No, No, that's not a good give 432 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: and take. That's not a good give and take. The 433 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: answer is don't do it. That's the thing. Don't do it. 434 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: And ordinarily anti Friday game. But in this new era 435 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: where people are only taking half their recruiting class that 436 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: high school ranks and depending on transfers, I think that 437 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter as much. Yeah, it said in consultation 438 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: with the Pac twelves television partners ESPN. That's who Bro 439 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: Washington and ESPN have some kind of beef anyway, So 440 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: are we that we assume that that beef is over 441 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: with No, because they don't have a choice. And oh 442 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: you're saying that they didn't. Okay, so you're saying you're 443 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: you're not blaming Washington because you don't think it was 444 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: up to them. No, I'm saying I blame them on 445 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: some level, But I guess the my my issue with 446 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: the situation is I just don't understand why we're moving 447 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: not one, but two games to a Friday night. I 448 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: hate it with the power of a thousand sons. Somebody 449 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: needs their ass. What for this. Maybe let's go like 450 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: super deep conspiracy theory with it. Maybe it's so that 451 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: HEARD can get out to a couple more games to 452 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: see a Sun play. Oh my god, bro, I think 453 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: it's possible. Caitlin too came in and said, like, yeah, 454 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: we'll do it. Why not, Like, let's put this show 455 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: on up against nobody. You know, I can see them 456 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: spinning it in that way. Ultimately, I am super against 457 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: all forms of Friday college football. I think that day 458 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: belongs to the Menno pool, the one you draw your 459 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: fish from for the big pond. And if you don't 460 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: respect that, and if you let TV be your god, 461 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: then you end up in these situations where you're forced 462 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: into doing things that aren't necessarily advantage. No other conferences 463 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: get that are that are power five get pushed into 464 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: these these sorts of situations. That's the part that bugs me. 465 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: That's the part that bugs me is that it's pack 466 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: twelve teams that are continuously pushed into this absolute madness. Yeah, 467 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: I hate it that it means that U c l 468 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: A And Oregon State now are forced to play on 469 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: Friday when they when they wouldn't of otherwise. So it's 470 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: not just watching them that's affected by this, it's two 471 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: other packed twelve teams. Yep. Um. Now you also had 472 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: Colorado hire a new coach, Like, what what is going 473 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: on at Colorado? Ralph? I think coaches stay where they 474 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: believe there's a future, and you think that they believe 475 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: that there's no future. There maybe no future for that staff. 476 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: And that's the and that's the thing is that is 477 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: that Okay, so they hire Carl Derrell. People aren't necessarily 478 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: super excited about that as well, which they didn't want 479 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: to be in a situation to have to hire Carl Dorrell. 480 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: They wanted to hang on to Mel Tucker, and mel 481 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: Tucker said that he was going to stick around, and 482 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: then Michigan State threw so much money at him that 483 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: it would have been irresponsible of him to say no. 484 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: Like Michigan State offered him an assistant coaching salary pool 485 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: that would have changed twenty to thirty people's lives forever. 486 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: So I would have been mad at melt Tucker if 487 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: he was like, no, I'm gonna honor my word. Like 488 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: so yes, so Vick Vick so oh oh too got 489 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: hired by Carl Durell on December, and then he ended 490 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: up telling Carl Durell that he decided to leave the program, 491 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: and Carl Durell said it was for family reasons to 492 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: take a coaching position at Cow, and then Vix sol 493 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: Otto was like, Nah, that ain't it. Family, That ain't 494 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: what happened. The family reasons are inflation. The family reasons 495 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: are it's expensive to get everyone a pizza like that. 496 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: The family reasons are cash money, right, like he and security. 497 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: He is more security and he'll probably be making more 498 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: money at hey, Cal, it's just probably a better situation 499 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: for him, exactly so. But but why lie? Like why lie? 500 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: Especially if the coaches not uh, you know, buying it 501 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: any I mean, like, if you're gonna do that, don't 502 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: you have to check in with the person first and 503 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: be like, yo, here's here's what I'm gonna say, are 504 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: you gonna go along with this? Uh? No? I think 505 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: that maybe maybe Carl Durrell didn't lie. Maybe maybe um 506 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: vix Oto said like, this is gonna be better for 507 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: my family. And then Carl Durrell says he left for 508 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: family reasons, which makes it sound like like they're somebody 509 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: sick or something. It could be a sick relative, you 510 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: could be having marriage troubles, you know, it could be 511 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: it could be any other things. When like the family 512 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: reasons are like, now we'd just be happier out here, 513 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: we're not happy way that. I don't think it's I 514 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: think this is right. Yeah, this is offseason talk. That's 515 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: what this is, dude. Yeah, yeah, I got family reasons 516 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: for leaving. Now we we have springball getting ready to start, 517 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: and obviously this is hope season. This is optimism season 518 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: for all the teams. Who has the who has the 519 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: most realistic set of hope in the in the Pac 520 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: twelve right right right now? You you get to pick 521 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: one team that has and you see the message boards, 522 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: you see the fans, who has the most realistic um, 523 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: you know, situation to do, what to do to win, 524 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: to win the conference. Because everybody's goals are going to 525 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: be a little bit different, Like Arizona would consider it 526 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: Bowl eligibility while Utah would consider it winning the conference. No. 527 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: I was just saying who has the most like which 528 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: fans are are on the right track as far as 529 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: their expectations for their team for this season. Utah. I 530 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: think it's got to me. It's got to be Utah because, Um, 531 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: Oregon kind of has to feel out their situation. You know, 532 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: they're excited about the staff that came in, but I 533 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: think there's still some questions. Dan Lanning has never led 534 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: a program before. This is going to be the most 535 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: responsibility that Kenny Dillingham has had, UM, and so I 536 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: think there's probably still some trepidation there. Um, But I 537 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: do think the Oregon fans have plenty of reason to 538 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: be excited. For me. It's if you spend an entire 539 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: year with John Wilner whispering that that Kyle Whittingham might 540 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: be done in Utah, and you're coming off of winning 541 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: the conference for the very first time. Um, you're returning 542 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: your starting quarterback, You're you were very young last year, 543 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: and your coach didn't leave after all that, your coach 544 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: didn't leave. You know the same O C. You have 545 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: the same DC. To me, if I'm a Utah fan, 546 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, we got this house money, let's 547 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: place a big bet. No, No, that's a that's a 548 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: legitimate thing. Um. Yeah, So I am going to choose 549 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: the University of Utah because Utah, I believe has legitimate 550 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,919 Speaker 1: expectations to win the South again. I think that they 551 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 1: are that they are a good team, well coached. Obviously, 552 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: they lose a lot in Devin Lloyd at linebacker in particular, 553 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: but they got the quarterback, back, running back looks good. 554 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: Offensive line is gonna be in good, good shape. They 555 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: are good. They should be the team to beat in 556 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: the in the conference, well in the in the South 557 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: at least, and they really have no excuse to start 558 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: slow again. They're gonna get San Diego State again, so 559 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: they got a chance to get them back. But that's 560 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: gonna be in Salt Lake City. They could start oh 561 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: and one because they have to play in Gainesville. But 562 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: there's no guarantee that Florida team is gonna be ready 563 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 1: to play for Billy Napier. You're looking at a looking 564 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: at the schedule, it is it is completely feasible to 565 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: to to look at Utah schedule and say anything less 566 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: than ten wins would be a disappointment. And what a 567 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: long way they've come to be in that situation. They 568 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: get USC at home, the toughest game at the end 569 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: of the season is probably gonna be going to Eugene. Yeah, 570 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: they've proven they can win in l A after beating 571 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: USC last year, and they got to go to l 572 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: A to play u C. L A. They gotta go 573 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: to Sun Devil Stadium. But that you know, who knows 574 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: what Arizona State is gonna look like. This looks like 575 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: ten wins minimum to me. Yeah, yeah it is. And 576 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: that's coming after we weren't very bullish on this team 577 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: last year. So yeah, so I'm excited about Do you 578 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: think the Pack twelve media is smart enough to take 579 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: a year off of predicting USC to win the South? Um? No? Oh, 580 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: hell no, hell no, absolutely not. Dude. When you think there, dude, 581 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: there there is no chance. There is about a zero 582 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: percent chance that they take a year off of pumping 583 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: up USC. It ain't it ain't happening. It ain't happening, 584 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: So you might as well get used to it now. 585 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: Because USC fans already believe that they have a chance 586 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: to win the uh the well to make the college 587 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: football playoffs. Some of their fans are like, all football 588 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: playoff and I'm like, you don't have a line chill, fam, 589 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: Like you're doing way too much right now. So yeah, 590 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: so that's where we're at there, Um you guys, that 591 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: is the Pact, twelve Apostles. We are back. Um off seat. 592 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: There is no off season now. We are back with 593 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: you guys regularly. Thanks for joining us, peace out, Catch 594 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 1: you guys later.