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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. Hey, it's the third of the month.

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Speaker 2: Wake up, wake up, wake up, cashier checks and get up.

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Speaker 2: It's time for our Wednesday edition of Morning Combat. Hello everybody,

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Speaker 2: how you doing. Welcome to today's show. Glad you could

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Speaker 2: be here. We got a lot to get to today. Man,

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Speaker 2: this is a big one today. We gotta get to

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Speaker 2: one's US debut, which will have it on Friday in Bruceville, Colorado.

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Speaker 2: We gotta talk about UFC two eighty eight and the

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Speaker 2: get to John Jones weirdly shouting me out, what the

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, look, maybe maybe he's finally ready to talk

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Speaker 2: got a lot to get to. So hi everyone. My

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Speaker 2: name is Luke Thomas. I am merely one half of

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Speaker 2: your hosting duo. I joined you from the capital of

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Speaker 2: the Status and needles right here in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 2: Joined by my friend the CTE with the ED or

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Speaker 2: whatever the fuck this thing is. It's Brian Campbell, the

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Speaker 3: I finally cleaned my office yesterday. Basically my wife was like,

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Speaker 3: I mean, get that shit cleaned. So I got a

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Speaker 3: new backdrop, Luke shout out to this piece right here. J.

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Speaker 3: Pauett gave me that.

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Speaker 2: Luke.

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Speaker 3: All I had to do is security address.

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Speaker 2: Look at that right, pretty good, pretty good? Looks nice?

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Speaker 2: Did you put up the I can never tell which

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Speaker 2: a new credentials from Plant metavidas there.

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Speaker 3: Oh nice, this poster is new in my collection here,

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Speaker 3: Luke thought, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know R J Dunkele Gangbang sent me one

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Speaker 2: of those, and then my daughter uh grabbed it and

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Speaker 3: He was like a freak wedding, Luke, she's just breaking shit.

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Speaker 2: us a nice review there. We appreciate it. One to

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Speaker 2: remind folks, Showtime is, in fact the label that pay

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Speaker 2: showtime dot com get a thirty day free Trocky like,

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Speaker 2: you can keep it. If not, you can bounce. Look

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Speaker 2: at that BC looks shower today, says I got a

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Speaker 2: haircut yesterday. Luke.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing in this world, maybe not even sex, that

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Speaker 3: can turn a man back into a man, Luke, like

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Speaker 3: getting a haircut? Can you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: You know what? I don't know. If they did a

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Speaker 3: Kenny did my guy Kenny did the low fade tapered job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta tell you your your boy Kenny looks

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Speaker 3: they need Luke, they need the drug. Are you going

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Speaker 3: Show time dot Com got out, Luke, if I could

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Speaker 3: interrupt you to to just mention a great website, YouTube

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Speaker 3: dot com slash Morning Combat we've arguably put up arguably

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Speaker 3: put up some of our best content of all time

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Speaker 3: in the last few days, Louke, can you tell the

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Speaker 2: Rashad Evans the UFC Hall of Famer and as BC

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Speaker 2: YouTube dot com slash Morning Comment. Let me ask Mikey,

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Speaker 2: Do you ever listen to our show on podcast platform?

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Speaker 3: No? I don't, you know. It's weird, Luke, Like everybody,

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Speaker 3: Too much psychedelic rock to listen to, Luke, to waste

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Speaker 2: You're gross, You're just a gross human being. I want

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Speaker 3: In the world of Canelo, Luke.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's both At the same time, Luke

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it basically is. I mean, there's a couple of problems.

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Speaker 3: a consultant coach for the likes of Whale and John Jones.

430
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 3: He seems to be always strategizing, always for the most part,

431
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,120
Speaker 3: in top level shape. So I'm not I'm not worried

432
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,639
Speaker 3: for Suhudo on Ring Russ And it's rare when you

433
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 3: can ka drus. It's rare when you can say that

434
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 3: about somebody and just not be worried, because it is

435
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 3: a real thing, and I feel like it can catch

436
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 3: anyone at any time, regardless of your mental capacity. I know,

437
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 3: you got a guy like Tom Cruz who has been

438
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,919
Speaker 3: able to act like it's not there and it hasn't

439
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 3: shown up for him, But that is, you know, dom

440
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 3: Cruz also one of the all time greats. So if

441
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 3: we're just going matchup for matchup here, Luke, is this

442
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 3: fight more about Sahudo striking versus Sterlings over the five

443
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 3: rounds or is it more about how Sterling's defensive ground

444
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 3: game and potential submission offense match up with the wrestling

445
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 3: of sahudo.

446
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 2: So that's a great question. So Sterling's takedown defense is

447
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 2: not great. It's like forty percent. Now that's a little

448
00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 2: bit weirded out because in other five he's had like

449
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 2: uncharacteristically poor performance, like the the who's the guy who

450
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 2: used to date TJ should tape Brian Carroll?

451
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ATV thing.

452
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 2: He had, he had a he had an uncharacteristically poor

453
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 2: performance against him. The first fight against Yon Yon had

454
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 2: seven takedowns and then second fight he got zero of them.

455
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 2: Right to me, what it's really up against is so

456
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 2: hudo's gonna have to find a way to close the

457
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 2: distance without risking back exposure. So what do I mean

458
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 2: by that he has to stay out? I mean if

459
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 2: you're in kicking range, that's not gonna work, right, Like,

460
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 2: either if you're a shudo, your kicks are gonna get caught,

461
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,640
Speaker 2: or the kicking range is gonna be so far out

462
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: you're just gonna be the end of Sterling's range. That's

463
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 2: not gonna work. So you gotta be in punching range,

464
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,959
Speaker 2: your own punching range, and you can do that probably

465
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,959
Speaker 2: one of two ways. One, I think he could sort

466
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 2: of work his way inside with fakes and faints. He

467
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,959
Speaker 2: could pressure him against the fence, which obviously will get

468
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 2: him to that space, or what could be kind of

469
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 2: interesting to see BC. I wonder if he goes for

470
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 2: traditional takedowns on him. As I mentioned, is takedown defense

471
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: historically speaking, statistically speaking, is not high and you could

472
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 2: get good ground and pound on top if your base

473
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 2: is strong and your scramble ability is good, which should

474
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 2: be with suhudo, that really narrows it down. And yes,

475
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 2: obviously a guy like is gonna be hard to hold down.

476
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 2: You know, this doesn't come so easy. I don't know

477
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: if this is the game plan he wants, but it

478
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 2: seems like that kind of punching range is going to

479
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: require a surface to assist you, whether it's the canvas

480
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: or the fence. But you got to be careful in

481
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 2: the spaces. Any kind of arm drag that turns him,

482
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 2: any kind of you know, lock around the waist that

483
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 2: turns him, and this guy's gonna be on your back.

484
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 2: And once he gets your back, like shudo's not gonna

485
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 2: be with that body type, he's not gonna be able

486
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 2: to get him off whatsoever, he's going to be in

487
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 2: deep shit. So I think it's gonna be some combination

488
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 2: of those two kinds of things.

489
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 3: Now, you know, we don't tend to usually work this

490
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,199
Speaker 3: into the pregame when talking about a fight, but you

491
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 3: know this is a home meet or home game of

492
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: some kind for Sterling, you know from Long Island fighting

493
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 3: in Newark. If either of them, though, should pass through

494
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: the Newark train station on the way to the fight,

495
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 3: is there a handicap or an analysis here based on

496
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 3: the potential of communical bull disease transmission.

497
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 2: Yes, so here is my recommendation. Okay, if you don't

498
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 2: want to wear a mask because it's all political for you, fine,

499
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 2: not here to make you do that. What I would

500
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: tell you is, once you get off the tracks in

501
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: the open air, and you then have to exit onto

502
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 2: the main concourse, hold your breath until you're outside again.

503
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 2: That's the best thing you could possibly do. BC. This

504
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 2: is a true story. The last time I was there,

505
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: they have a Dunkin Donuts there, which the homeless people

506
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 2: greet you in and out of begging for things, and

507
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: I always feel bad, so I always get them stuff.

508
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 2: But when I bit into the bagel that I got.

509
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: It tasted like the air in the train station, right,

510
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: because I didn't eat the bagel until I was on

511
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 2: the train, like five miles away, so I pulled my

512
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 2: back and it literally tasted like the air in the

513
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 2: and I threw it away.

514
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 3: I couldn't either, all right, Who ordered the HEBC bagel

515
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 3: with cream cheese is right here? Right?

516
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, under no circumstance should you actually breathe the air

517
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 2: in that place? It's absolutely awful. But okayb see getting

518
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: back to it a little bit, I really think that's

519
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 2: part of it. Let me tell you some of these stats,

520
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: if I may.

521
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of interesting. Tell us stats. Let's

522
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 3: do it.

523
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: There are numbers in certain ways are fairly similar ish, right,

524
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: But Sterling's, to me on the striking look a little

525
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 2: bit better. So Sahuto three point nine to two strikes

526
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 2: landed permitted to two point seven to seven absorbed, So

527
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: he's got a good one point two positive differential. That's great.

528
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 2: Sterling four point seven to two point one eight he

529
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: gets hit less and lands more and again qualitatively. Maybe

530
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 2: Suhudo's laying the thunder a little bit more, but definitely

531
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 2: Sterling is touching and going, and that matters. Striking accuracy

532
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 2: Sterling fifty one percent to forty five for sahudo striking

533
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 2: defense a little bit better to suhudo sixty five, but

534
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: still sixty one percent for Sterling. Both of those would

535
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: be high. It's the grappling where they get a little

536
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: bit interesting for me. For takedowns one point nine to

537
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 2: eight for al Jamn Sterling per fifteen minutes two point

538
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 2: one two nearly equivalent in that sense, Henry a little

539
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 2: bit more so if he doesn't have the access to

540
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: those takedowns. And we talked about a BC on resume

541
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 2: review the last three fights, you know, basically he won

542
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: via TKO. There were some in the Mirash fight, there

543
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: were some wrestling grappling elements, but in general he's gotten

544
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: a little bit away from that takedown accuracy. Neither is

545
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 2: that great twenty four percent for Aljamn Sterling, thirty three

546
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 2: percent for Henry shudo. But the big difference from me

547
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: on their BC one more time is again all Sterling

548
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: is looking to do, folks, is get to the behind

549
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 2: someone's elbows or get their hands to the mat. That's

550
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: all he needs. That is statistically a failed takedown, but

551
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: that is for what he's trying to do, one hundred

552
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 2: percent successful and then takedown defense forty one percent for

553
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 2: Sterling for Sahudo ninety three percent takedown defense. That is

554
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: very very good considering who he has fought and how

555
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: many times I fought them.

556
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: Look when I look at a fight like this, and

557
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 3: obviously the odds are telling you it's basically a pick him. Yes,

558
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 3: we have to suspend the what we don't know about

559
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: Suhudo's comeback, but I think we're giving him so much

560
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 3: credit as a thinker, a problem solver that that may

561
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: not be an issue. But I try to look at

562
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: what potential storylines were missing that after the fact we go, oh, yeah,

563
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 3: you know, how about this, Luke, do you have any

564
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 3: fear in this? Although Suhudo is a two division champion,

565
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 3: he certainly took advantage of opportunities. It's not his fault.

566
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 3: He didn't have to go through Dillashaw at one thirty

567
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 3: five to win the title. That's just how it went down.

568
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 3: But outside of his UFC debut, which was at bandam weight,

569
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 3: when you talk about the elite bandamweight wins, we have

570
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 3: seen from Suhudo. It was a very hard, vacant title

571
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 3: fight against a huge Marlon Moriis and won that. Suhudo

572
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: had to dig in on almost a legendary level to

573
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 3: turn that fight around and win it, and he did that,

574
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: by the way. The other against a faded but obviously

575
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: still something there Dominic Cruz, who, though not an overly

576
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: large bandamwaight, not a threat to knock you out. Are

577
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 3: we overlooking the idea that al Joe's as big as

578
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 3: they call that bandam weight? And when you factor that

579
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 3: into Suhudo's time off and his history dealing with bigger

580
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: fighters there or maybe lack of it, is there a

581
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 3: physicality level here that Sterling is gonna be able to

582
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: take advantage of, whether implementing his size and reach as

583
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: you mentioned or just being naturally bigger. Is that gonna

584
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: matter at all?

585
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: It only matters in the two context which I think

586
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: we know from Sterling the length he can maintain, like

587
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: the distance he's able to maintain because of that jab

588
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 2: and that teap, and how good he is with lateral movement.

589
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: And again he's used to guys pressuring him. It'll be

590
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 2: interesting if Sahudo decides to lay back and counter strike that,

591
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: because then you then Sterling has to bring himself to

592
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: it and you don't have an opponent like rushing into you.

593
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: It's gonna be harder to take him down if they're

594
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: retreating actually, but of course that then requires you to

595
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: have very nimble footwork, because if you're gonna be on

596
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: the retreat, you can't retreat too far backwards and then

597
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 2: you're up against the fence and then that's no good

598
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: for you either. So it'll be interesting to see what

599
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: kind of approach he takes there. But it's the range

600
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: that Sterling's able to maintain and his grappling prowess, where

601
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 2: once he obtains a dominant position he is able to

602
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: maintain it through the course of however long the rest

603
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: of the round is. While I think he has really

604
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: gotten better at ground and pound, getting better at some

605
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: submission attempts. We saw that in the Cory san Haagean

606
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: when that was obviously very very early. But you get

607
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: the idea like he's just really his understanding of the

608
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: back and all the different nuances in the positions and

609
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: what you can do with it, and when to fold

610
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: your legs, when to uncross them, when to chair, sit,

611
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: when to pin. These are all different considerations based on

612
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: what your opponent is giving you and what they're showing.

613
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: I think he's got that probably better than anyone else

614
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: in that division, including Henry su Hudo Bike, but that

615
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: one dimension by a mile.

616
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: No, I agree with you on that. I think that's

617
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 3: the difficult part. As much as we are trying to

618
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 3: gauge how Suhuda will look based on history and our

619
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: you know, trying to properly grade the plus level in

620
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: tangibles that he brings. I think the problem with Sterling,

621
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 3: who often gets you know, gets underrated in the long run,

622
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: is do we have It's not that we don't have

623
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: enough evidence or time or footage of him as an

624
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: elite banded way to figure it out, but part of

625
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: his his current stock being questionable at times is the

626
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: DQ loss and the way it went down, not his fault,

627
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: and the fact that we learned almost nothing from the

628
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: Dillashaw fight. So how great, how good is al Jamaine

629
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: Sterling right now? We just should we just look at

630
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: the difference in the performances between the Yon fight one

631
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: and Fight two to see exactly who he is and

632
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: how he may have grown over the past few years.

633
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: I think you have to. I think it's so big,

634
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: and I know that Yan has fallen on hard time

635
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: since then or whatever, but yeah, he was fighting good

636
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: guys too, and the Morob fight was you know, uninspiring

637
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: as a win for him, and you know, you get

638
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: the idea I think Sterling is. I will tell you

639
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: what years and years ago, before he had like the

640
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: loss to Marlon Morice and before he had the law

641
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: was it to I forget the other one he had

642
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 2: that was real bad, the Caraway one. Yeah, before that,

643
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: I was like, this guy's gonna be champion. And then

644
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: I kind of dialed my opinion back a little bit

645
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: when he suffered some of those losses and I thought

646
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: that Jan was going to beat him in the first

647
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: fight that they had, and he was on his way

648
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: to doing that, by the way. But the level of

649
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: I mean, the leveling up he did between those two

650
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: and you know, here's what he did. We see it

651
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: wasn't like it wasn't like he did things dramatically different.

652
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: But I think this is the key and why it

653
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: looked so different between the first and second fights. It's

654
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: not just that he cleaned up what went wrong He

655
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: finally has a real clear identity about what his fight

656
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: style is. He understands what his assignment is depending on

657
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: what the opponent is giving him related to that, and

658
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: he made his game more dangerous in my view by

659
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: simplifying the process. He was a little bit all over

660
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: the place trying to figure out at a time in

661
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: his career what is my game? What am I good at?

662
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: What do I want to do? And you saw glimpses

663
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: of it all over the place. But it's now a

664
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: clear network of integrated concepts, tactics, strategies. Everything works together,

665
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: everything flows together. He's gotten rid of the parts that

666
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: don't do him much good. He's only gotten better at

667
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: the parts that do him a lot of good. As

668
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: I said before, he's at the front of the pack

669
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: in terms of MMA guys who have used back exposure

670
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: to dramatically enhance their winning odds. Yeah, dude, there's nothing

671
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: phony about his success, and I've been wrong about it

672
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: at times. Regretfully, I think you're very if if you

673
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: want to say so, whodo can win this weekend? That

674
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: is not in any way crazy or wrong or anything

675
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: like that, but you better be sure you're making that

676
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: pick with a healthy respect for Aljabet Sterling, the skepticism

677
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 2: that he's a fraud.

678
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: Indeed, in other his three losses that we tease obviously

679
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: got stopped by Marice, but the back to back losses

680
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 3: to Carraway and Hafiela Sunsaw, which feel like you know,

681
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: an eternity ago, those are both disputed fights to be

682
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: very fair, and he has learned from them and he

683
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: has grown. You can look no further than what you

684
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: just mentioned the growth between Yon fight one and two

685
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: to see that. But if I have a healthy, healthy

686
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: respect for the UBL the upper bound limits of Henry Sahudo,

687
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: and I said this to you, Luke, you can share

688
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: all the stats you want, you can talk about tape watched,

689
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 3: all that, but for me to understand who might win

690
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: this fight. Can al Jamine Sterling if he needs to

691
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: outstrike outland outthink Henry Sahudo for twenty five minutes. If

692
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: the ground element of this gets ultimately canceled out, which

693
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: is a proper possibility with two guys who are very

694
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: strong in their own ways on the ground, has al

695
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: Jo evolved to a level of eliteness that he can

696
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: do this against the Suhudo.

697
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: I think he can, but it's a little bit like

698
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: the Frankie Edgar thing where, you know, we've talked about

699
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: it before. If you just watch Frankie ader Edgar, if

700
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: you defend the takedown, where that's no longer a reasonable

701
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: threat for him, his striking gets a lot more predictable.

702
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: It's something similar with alt. You a different setups, different realities.

703
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, it's like, without the ground, can al

704
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: Jo still move defensively, pump the jab and hit and

705
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: not get hit reasonably?

706
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: Well.

707
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: Look, the stats speak to the fact that yes he can, Yes,

708
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: of course, but it's like a guy like Henry even

709
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: at one thirty five, I'm gonna bet as a hard

710
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: hitter and I'm gonna bet is gonna take some risks.

711
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: And if he's shut down your wrestling or your grappling

712
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: and you're just kind of reduced to this, you know,

713
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: I think that's when he gets a little bit hurried.

714
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: For Sterling, historically, that's when it gets a little bit

715
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: you know, there's not as much steam on it, even

716
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: when it's already not very impactful. It's like we're almost

717
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: becomes slapping shots of quantity and not quality. He could

718
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: take advantage of that. So, yeah, you shut down the

719
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: grappling on him, and I think that doesn't mean Sterling

720
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: won't win, but it would dramatically reduce his odds.

721
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: I think at that point, I wonder if that's the

722
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 3: I wonder if you're Henry Suhudo, I mean, if that's

723
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 3: your goal, is your goal to keep this on the feet,

724
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 3: because I do love the way he's able to figure

725
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: people out striking wise as the rounds progress, and then

726
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: I do echo what you're saying that he has the

727
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: power to change the fight as well. I also have

728
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: a lot of respect for Suhudo's chin and his ability

729
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 3: to hang in there. That would probably be an ideal

730
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: path for him, but it but it doesn't always play

731
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: out that way. I'm sure he's prepared for everything. But

732
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: I do think, Luke, if your team Suhudo, you want

733
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: this to be a book kickboxing.

734
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: Match, Yeah, of course. I mean I do think that

735
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: Sterling or Shudo might want to introduce a little bit

736
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: of wrestling himself, Like you could imagine Sterling being unprepared,

737
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: Sahuto having it set up just right, landing like a

738
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: blast double, and yeah, maybe he doesn't keep Sterling down

739
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: for very long. But he catches him a few times

740
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: on the way up. By the way, that's a real thing.

741
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: Like guys are really getting good at weaponizing the break

742
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: and step on the stand up of a takedown, so

743
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: like he could do that, and that just puts into

744
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: Sterling's mind how much he can really rest in certain positions.

745
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: But the real key question for me is, I think

746
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: this is where the fight's going to Hainge is if

747
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: you see Suhuto in pursuit of Sterling, that isn't necessarily wrong.

748
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: But if that doesn't work, I think he's in big trouble.

749
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: I don't think it's the second gear he can go to. Conversely,

750
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: if you see him start out bringing Sterling with him,

751
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: I think that makes Sterling work in positions he's a

752
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 2: little less comfortable in UH and would be kind of interesting.

753
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: I think that would that would be where the real

754
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: estate takes place. By virtue of Suhudo's pursuit or strategic retreat,

755
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,959
Speaker 2: we'll tell you a lot about which way the fight's

756
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 2: going to go in a hurry. I think it's gonna

757
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: be fure for people like.

758
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: You who love technique, game planning, statistics, adjustments, weird metal

759
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 3: would you say that that for the high fan of

760
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: your level, that this fight is a is a wet dream,

761
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: it's a it's a bag o porn at the stag

762
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 3: raffle table.

763
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, could you think of other fights that

764
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: you would potentially put as higher on that list? Yeah?

765
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 3: Only Mahachev Volkanovsky was the only one for like, you know,

766
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: purity of the of the skill and technique. That was

767
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 3: a super Bowl.

768
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: Yes, it's not quite like that, per Se, but it's

769
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 2: high level, dude, it's high level. Again, Sterling's championship reign

770
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 2: is not accidental in any way. And what else can

771
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 2: we do? What else can we say about Henry Sehudo

772
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 2: at this point? What else can we say? We all know.

773
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: It's the last thing I want to say. I will

774
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: point out one more thing, b see, because we're gonna

775
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: talk about intangibles in the Demitrius Johnson Marias trilogy. I

776
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: will say this, if they if these two cancel each

777
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: other out in large parts, in many dimensions where the

778
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: fight is kind of at a standstill, who do I

779
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: trust to out compete the other guy? Henry Suhudo, Henry.

780
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: Samso, the gold medalist.

781
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, his ability to his ability to provenly dig deep

782
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: in that two thousand and eight tournament in Beijing, or

783
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: pick another one to fight against Morice Reich whatever, dig

784
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: deep out, compete outthink guys, when it gets to problem areas,

785
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: if it gets to the place like that, dude, your

786
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 2: money needs to be on Shuto in the situation.

787
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: But you know, look, just the same as as al

788
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: Joe already surprised us against Sanhagen earlier than anyone expected.

789
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: As you said, if he's in a position to get

790
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: back in the first half of this fight, or you

791
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: know wherever and and and Gopher broke man, he can

792
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 3: pull that submission off. So I love it. I love

793
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: this matchup. And look, we have a question from a

794
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 3: member of our staff, Mikey Mormol from CBS Sports wants

795
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: to know, Looke, do you think Suhudo can have a

796
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 3: John Jones style win with the fans, meaning some people

797
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: look at Sutos cringe, some say overrated. Now I'm trying

798
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 3: to say underrated, But what John came back, It seemed

799
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 3: like people were just so happy to have him back.

800
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: Then he sits on Goun and wins the title, and

801
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: it's like, oh shit, we love this guy again, Is

802
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: that gonna happen with Suhudo with this fight?

803
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I think that's a greater possibility

804
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: for al Jo. Right, Like, so, from what I can

805
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: tell i'm reading the tea leaves, there's way more fans

806
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: excited about the return of Sahudo than they are about

807
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 2: al Jo. Now again, so Hudo's guy his critics like,

808
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: you know, it's not like it's good guy bad guy.

809
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: It's not quite so simple in that way. But from

810
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: what I have detected, I have seen a lot of people.

811
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: You know, we had people writing us I think saying

812
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 2: things like, you know, I'm excited to see my first

813
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: Sahudo fight live, like I became a fan during the pandemic.

814
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: You know, they haven't seen something like that. We've talked

815
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: about this legend. You know, this is something new for

816
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 2: a lot of people. So I would actually argue, yeah,

817
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: maybe he could get over some of those skeptics, But

818
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: I think al Jo faces fairly or otherwise much more skepticism.

819
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 2: A win for him here, a good, solid, clean, dominating,

820
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: skillful win. I think he could level up big in

821
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: terms of the fans eyes.

822
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: In that regard, I think BC needs more Eric alberossin

823
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: Luke to be very.

824
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: Need we need to get him on the couch and

825
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: ask him why do you wear the world's worst classes,

826
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: Like why do you do that? All right? BC, let's

827
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: get to topic number two here if we can balal

828
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: Mohammed by the way, I think our producer says, I

829
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: think fans would just say Henry was overrated with the win.

830
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: They might, but that's sort of another way of diminishing

831
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: Aljamain Sterling, right, It's like this continued reason to like

832
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: not believe in him. All right, BC. The co main

833
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: event bal Mohammed taken on Gilbert Burns. I don't have

834
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: the odds in front of me. I will get them.

835
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 2: You might have them, I.

836
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 3: Can tell you right now, Luke Thomas quickly plus one

837
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 3: hundred bal Mohammed minus one thirty Gilbert Burns.

838
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a really interesting fight, and we know

839
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: what's really up for grabs here. These two guys don't

840
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: really have beef. They're not major trash talkers. There's a

841
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: little bit a little bit of that to get the

842
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: fight made, because it got made in short notice. Basically,

843
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: the winner of this gets a title shot. Gilbert Burns

844
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: is kind of aging but still pretty dang good. Bala

845
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 2: Mohammed's in the form of his career BC. Is this

846
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 2: fight more likely to take place on the ground because

847
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: both guys are ground operators, or is that gonna cancel

848
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: out and these two guys are gonna bang?

849
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like if that happens and it cancels out,

850
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: which certainly could happen, and it does happen a lot,

851
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 3: a lot, to be fair, whether it's you know, agreed to,

852
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: you know, like Covington and Usmann just kind of gave

853
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 3: like the silent nod like yeah, let's just bang, Okaychuey,

854
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: let's just do that. My question is, though, Luke, as

855
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: much as Bla has raised his striking game, and I

856
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: know this is gonna fall in the long history of

857
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: BC overlooking Bla just like he did to Max for years,

858
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: just like he did to Charles Olivera. I mean, yeah,

859
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 3: I've had my I've had my missus. Okay, Luke, you

860
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Well, I'm just one wife though,

861
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 3: But my ultimate point he is can ballall hang on

862
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 3: the feet though in an aggressive action fight, which, given

863
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: their personalities, and it's likely to become given the stakes, too.

864
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, Luke, I don't know. I mean, he

865
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 3: battered Sean Brady. He entered himself into the into the

866
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: true title discussion. He's willing to fight anybody.

867
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: Man.

868
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: He's doing this after just, you know, a week removed

869
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: from Ramadon, seemingly where he was fasting for a month.

870
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: Ballall's coming on, dude, It's about time I stop overrating

871
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: me underrating him. But Luke, Gilbert's nasty and it didn't

872
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: look like he took damage three weeks Togo against against Mazvidal,

873
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 3: even though you can ask yourself, is this the is

874
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: this the way it should be? I don't know. Sometimes

875
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 3: guys stay red hot as long as they're healthy, and

876
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: they just ride that momentum and they do it. I

877
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 3: think Gilbert Purns is the better fighter, Luke, So if

878
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: this does turn into a striking match for more of

879
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: the fifteen than not, I don't think it's wrong to

880
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 3: to to like Gilbert's chances in that in that setting.

881
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: Just as much obvious he can do things on the ground,

882
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: you know, as well as anybody, But dude, Gilbert can bang.

883
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: Man also like taking Gilbert down, It's like, is that

884
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: really a prize, you know what I mean, Like I

885
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: folks don't realize what multiple time black belt at the

886
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: highest level at the World Championships, like legitimate super high

887
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 2: level and like does things to like other grapplers that

888
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: you would not imagine a guy you primarily know for

889
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: MMA doing that too pure only jiu jitsu based elite talent.

890
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 2: Like there's some video that rolled around of him doing

891
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 2: something to Cyborg or Bray you like that. Nobody does

892
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: just absolutely like tooled him and you're like, my god, dude,

893
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: Gilbert is really good. So like a he's going to

894
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: be hard to hold down and be like his submissions

895
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: from Underneath Bro their next generation good. So yeah, I'm

896
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: with you. I'm with you. I tend to think this

897
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: goes on the feet.

898
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 3: Well, I think Belah would want it off the ground

899
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 3: for all the reasons you just said. But I you

900
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 3: to look into my soul, Luke as somebody who has

901
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: doubted balall each step of this way, but has a

902
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 3: lot of respect for his for his for his rack.

903
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: Luke.

904
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got the best pecks in the UFC

905
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 3: to you know, at least in the mail side. To

906
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 3: be very fair with you, what have I missed what

907
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 3: about Ballall striking that could allow him to once again

908
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: prove me wrong and then get a real title shot. Here.

909
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: The thing is, Brady's striking is obviously not the best

910
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 2: part of his game, right, so the pressure that Ballall

911
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 2: was able to put on him really made hit whatever

912
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: it was retreat to an even lesser version of that.

913
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 2: I don't think that gear exists with Gilbert. Gilbert can

914
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 2: He's got more experience, he's got more experience under pressure,

915
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: he's got more experience against big punchers. It doesn't work.

916
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: You're asking, like, why have we underrated it? I think

917
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: because there was a bulk of what Ballall had done

918
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 2: that was a lot of it felt like in real

919
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: time important work, genuine winning, but winning with relatively stall

920
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: him up against the fence, hold him down on the

921
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: on the canvas, and you know, use control and like

922
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: moderate ground and pound to get uninspiring but you know,

923
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: legitimate tough to get wins. And then it looked like

924
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: against Sean Brady, as I indicated, he had kind of

925
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: leveled up a little bit, and I think that he had.

926
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: So the reason why you it's not like, dude, it's

927
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: not like he's like He's got good strikes, but a

928
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: lot of it the Brady fight, notwithstanding, a lot of

929
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: it comes from how the rest of his game integrates

930
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: with it. And I don't know if he's going to

931
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,959
Speaker 2: have that same I don't know access to those kinds

932
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: of same opportunities against a guy like Gilbert Burns, who

933
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: will who can return the pressure, who can wrestle himself,

934
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: you know, who's used to all of this. The issue

935
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: for me is, BC, I don't think you were wrong.

936
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: We didn't just underestimate the striking of Balaamahammad. We underestimated

937
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: I think the upside and that's really where we aired. Yes,

938
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: his striking has gotten significant better. He's not seemingly as

939
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: reliant on his wrestling as he once was. But the

940
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: argument would be is, like, though he got those wins

941
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: in that time, does that really tell you he has

942
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 2: what it takes to beat the very top of that division?

943
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: To me, the answer would be no. The question is, though,

944
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: has he now graduated past that? And was the Brady

945
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: Fight a glimpse into a new future?

946
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's gonna have to continue to raise

947
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: his game, and you know, I think in terms of

948
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: the questions of both on a quick turnaround. It's hard

949
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: to really gauge you would have the advantage. I mean, look,

950
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: what do you feel like if somebody wins a big

951
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: fight without taking a ton of damage, which you can

952
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: say was the fact for Gilbert, could it be just

953
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 3: as much of an advantage or disadvantage based on how

954
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: things went to come back in an even bigger fight

955
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: three weeks later, like just like like nothing happened, come

956
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 3: right back.

957
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: Well, isn't it one of those things where it's the circumstances.

958
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: It's not the three weeks, it's the three weeks under

959
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 2: what considerations? So like on the Gilbert Burns side, three

960
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: weeks after the fight where I went to the distance,

961
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: but he didn't take a ton of damage, his weight's

962
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: already down. He could easily slot in and take another

963
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: one without too much issue. That makes sense, especially when

964
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: your opponent was, let's say, weight unprepared. Now that's not

965
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: his fault. He had Ramadan and he didn't have a

966
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: fight booked, and then all of a sudden everything just

967
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: kind of snowed, snowballed in a way that it did

968
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: so in this particular circumstance, I think it's a calculated risk.

969
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: That makes sense probably for both parties, but maybe more

970
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: so for Gilbert Burns. And that's why he might I think,

971
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: like his chances or feel pretty confident or whatever the

972
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 2: case may be. Like the nature of the circumstances makes

973
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: it reasonable. Not as a as a rule, this kind

974
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 2: of timeline is always set out this way. We see,

975
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: let me just ask you what what what do you

976
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: think this fight? Let me ask a different way, Actually,

977
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: how surprised would you be with a with a bloh

978
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: Mohammed win cleanly? Like? Not judges screwing it up? Not?

979
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 3: You know, I keep getting caught for about I keep

980
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: forgetting the name Luke, because when I looked at these odds,

981
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, it was a little closer than

982
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: I think right here. Look could Blah muhamma get this done? Absolutely?

983
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: I think there was more reasons to believe against a

984
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: still yet unproven at the truly elite level Brady where

985
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: when he did it the way he did it, we

986
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: were like, oh shit, but I knew that was possible.

987
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 3: This is possible, But I will say unlikely, Luke. Gilbert

988
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: Burns is is on a run right now, mentally, physically, spiritually,

989
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 3: emotionally like it's all where it needs to be for

990
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: as long as it will last. Like you know, somebody

991
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 3: mentioned in in in the comments here on Twitter today

992
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 3: that you know, the idea of somebody being prime doesn't

993
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 3: always have to do with age, and I think that's true, right,

994
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 3: It has to do with when your physical meets your

995
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 3: mental and the perfect marriage of both and the experience

996
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 3: is caught up and you're you know all that. It

997
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: was this guy hams Up who said that at Winfrey

998
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 3: ninety nine. Shout out to that guy, Luke. I think

999
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: you could make that argument that even with the quick turnaround,

1000
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 3: this is the most dangerous, the best version possible of

1001
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 3: Gilbert Burns somebody who's willing if that's the best way

1002
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: to win it, to go back and lean on his

1003
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 3: strength of the grappling like he did against Magni and

1004
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 3: just absolutely dominated him. But also somebody on the level

1005
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 3: of even a Hamzat Chimayav can go in there and

1006
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: go life or death and you know, swim and swim

1007
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: effectively and have a sneaky argument for having won that fight,

1008
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 3: you know, three to two, and no one wants to

1009
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 3: talk about it. This is probably the best Gilbert person

1010
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 3: we've ever seen blah Mahammad would have to be the

1011
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 3: best version of himself. And how I see this fight,

1012
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 3: which you know, I don't know, Luke. You know I

1013
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 3: see things differently than some award winning analysts. Luke, we'd

1014
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: have to see, you know, the best ballall with a

1015
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: bullet to come in here and win this fight. Am

1016
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 3: I crazy? Am I wrong? Luke? Am I crazy? This

1017
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 3: is why don't set odds for a living. I just

1018
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 3: think this is Gilbert's dance and he's coming to that

1019
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 3: dance to spike the punch and leave with the girl.

1020
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1021
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: I'll say this. There is another possibility, which is, you know,

1022
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: I feel like a senior athlete like Gilbert is not.

1023
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: MMA fighters take dumb ass risks a lot. Let's just

1024
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: be honest about that. Whether it's with their health, whether

1025
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: it's with anything, they just they're not people afraid of risk,

1026
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 2: and of course you need that to be in this

1027
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: line of work. But then it can metastasize and go

1028
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: to places that you don't want it to go. There

1029
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 2: is an argument, or at least at least something we're

1030
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: thinking about, which is, what if Gilbert has miscalculated how

1031
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 2: ready he'll be three weeks later. Right, what if he

1032
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 2: has miscalculated not that he'll be on weight or whatever,

1033
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: but that, you know, God only knows, his body just

1034
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: won't perform the way it's supposed to, or he'll gas

1035
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: at the end of the third or something like. Something

1036
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 2: could just go wrong, or he put wear and tear

1037
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: on his body and he's gonna get an injury mid fight. Like,

1038
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: there's all kinds of ways he could be miscalculating here

1039
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: that we're not really considering. I think Gilbert does need

1040
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: to be like a compromise, Like they're not so far

1041
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: apart that Gilbert Burns can just win no matter what.

1042
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: If Gilbert is compromised in some kind of noticeable way,

1043
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 2: he's gonna lose this fight. I don't have really any

1044
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: doubt about that. The law I think is just unforgiving

1045
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: in that way. But if he didn't miscalculate, it's an

1046
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: uphill climb for Blaw, it's an uphill climb. Gilbert is

1047
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: not an easy opponent for anybody, including maybe Leon Edwards

1048
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: if he gets to that point, or Colby if he

1049
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: gets to that point. Like Gilbert is a Gilbert is

1050
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 2: a motherfucker. Dude, He's a motherfucker. So absolutely we should

1051
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: be very respectful of that reality.

1052
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: And I don't want to not I don't want to

1053
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: miss what I should have missed on blall. I just

1054
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 3: think this is a big ass hill. We'll see what happens, man.

1055
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I had never even heard of the

1056
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 3: word metastasized until you just slip that in on the

1057
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 3: fly right there to raise my game and educate me.

1058
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: Looking it up quickly, the way it's smelled, it looks

1059
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 3: like my teste size, which was you know, was humorous

1060
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 3: in the moment there. But could that possibly replace boye

1061
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 3: as our word of the month there?

1062
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 2: On mkle Bowe Bowie boy?

1063
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 3: How do you say booied Boe Bowie?

1064
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 2: There's actually a city in Maryland called Bowie, although it's

1065
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: spelled the exact opposite way you might imagine it spelled.

1066
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: Its Yeah, it's spelled like David Bowie, like b o

1067
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: w I e, but they pronounce it. I'm not kidding.

1068
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 2: It's Bowie, Maryland. You say Bowie Maryland. No one knows

1069
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 2: what it is.

1070
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 3: Base socks in the house, right.

1071
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: The Booie bay socks in the house. You get the idea.

1072
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: Caught up Luke air hair. I don't get that hair

1073
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 3: fad or Bader. It just it doesn't you see.

1074
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: I know our fans probably want us to talk about

1075
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: some of this other stuff, But do you have for

1076
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: topic number three? Do you have big takes? On the

1077
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: rest of two eighty eight? We did talk a little

1078
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 2: bit about Monday, Bryce Mitchell is out.

1079
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Bryce Mitchell's out Luke against Mulsar. Ever, did

1080
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 3: you see Bryce Mitchell was in episode one of Embedded

1081
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 3: and he was in his makeshift ice tub on his

1082
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 3: farm and everyone's talking about that shoulder that was all purple.

1083
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 3: Look that was so bright purple? That could it really

1084
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 3: be from a bruise? What the hell? It looked like?

1085
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 3: He tried to rob a bank and when they opened

1086
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 3: the bag that that ink shot out Luke all over

1087
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 3: his shoulder and he can't he just can't wash it off.

1088
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,479
Speaker 2: You know what it looked like to me? It looked

1089
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: like to me he fell off a four wheeler or something.

1090
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: That's what it looks like to me. Because if you

1091
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: think about it, I've you know, I spent a good

1092
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 2: portion of my youth in Georgia riding four Wheelers, So

1093
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: let he who's in cast the first stone. That's not

1094
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But if you fall off, just think

1095
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 2: about it. You land here and then you begin to

1096
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: scratch everything here as you tell it, looked at me

1097
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: like he had a fall somewhere or maybe off the

1098
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: ladder or whatever the fuck.

1099
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: You know, but here, Yeah, I got that. Look. By

1100
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 3: the way, did you see that story that James Krause

1101
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: had about that's not favorable that it's making the rounds

1102
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 3: again on the internet.

1103
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: Did you see that he masturbated in a sock or something?

1104
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 3: Basically, Krause let Bryce use his room to talk on

1105
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: the phone with his girlfriend, and at the end of

1106
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 3: the call with his girlfriend, he jayoed into his into

1107
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 3: into James Krause's socks that were on the floor, then

1108
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 3: took a nap in James's bed, then came out, put

1109
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 3: the jay oed socks back on his own feet, and

1110
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 3: then walked out and explained the situation like that's normal. Look,

1111
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 3: if you I don't let you in my hotel room

1112
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 3: because I'm I just know instantly your body will tell

1113
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: you to destroy the porcelain and make the rest of

1114
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 3: my stay there unpleasant. Is this a direct shot at

1115
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: Bryce Mitchell's character, or should we consider the source against

1116
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 3: the guy who I'm still trying to get the Parlays

1117
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 3: and Pounani podcast off the ground.

1118
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen with Parlays and Punani.

1119
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: That's damn.

1120
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: That's here.

1121
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: He's here.

1122
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 2: Thing like, dude drinking off into a sock is like

1123
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy three, Like you don't have a Kleenex? You

1124
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying?

1125
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: How big is the school back on?

1126
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 2: It weren't even so it's trifling, just putting jis all

1127
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: over your feet? What is that? I mean?

1128
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 3: So what does that say about this man's character?

1129
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 2: I mean, he's all bruised up for a reason. I

1130
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: don't know, Bro, I mean, this is the guy that

1131
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: put his own nutsack in a chainsaw. What do you

1132
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: want me to tell you?

1133
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, his his real replacement is Diego Lopes. Does

1134
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 3: this fight movie anymore?

1135
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 2: Yeah? So a little bit. Diego Lopez is a guy

1136
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 2: who he trains a bunch of UFC fighters, a lot

1137
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: of the women who you know, we'll talk about this

1138
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: a little bit later, but he's a Brazilian who's been

1139
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: living in Mexico for five years. He's been looking for

1140
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: his big opportunity. Now he's going to get one, uh

1141
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: super shitty assignment for your first UFC fight. Good lord,

1142
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 2: but he looks like he's game for it. I think

1143
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: he's a black belt in jiu jitsu, and again, he's

1144
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 2: been training a lot of other UFC talents, so he's

1145
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 2: probably a decent level. But it doesn't matter against this kid,

1146
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: ev looev is gonna run right through them. I think, Look, do.

1147
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 3: You know Rough and Rowdy has an event coming up

1148
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 3: called the Great American Redneck Bash. I just got an

1149
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 3: inbox email about that, and I was like, okay, we're

1150
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 3: just leaning right into it. There we go.

1151
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to mean, what would you call

1152
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: it the meeting of the Rhodes Scholars. I mean, these

1153
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 2: are people that you know.

1154
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 3: Okay. I'm heavy intrigued by Chrome Gracie's return, There's no

1155
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 3: question about that. We talked about that on Monday, Charles

1156
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 3: Air Jordan. Look three years away, it's really hard to

1157
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: understand or predict where Chrome Gracie will be at. But

1158
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 3: I do think he's one of those rare fighting enigmas,

1159
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 3: almost like a Dylan Danis, but in a much better

1160
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 3: way because he's active and doesn't get knocked out by

1161
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 3: influencers or knocked down. Like if anyone could come in

1162
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 3: here and just like pull it off, it is him, Luke.

1163
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 3: He does have this super cool vibe to him, and

1164
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 3: no wonder why he hangs out with the Diz brothers.

1165
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 3: But you're not going to hold your breath right like

1166
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 3: it's we're already asking a tough task. He already had

1167
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 3: a weird fight against Club last time where he chose

1168
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 3: to strike and got beat up. I don't know, and

1169
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 3: that's I guess that's the entertainment. That's the Luke. It

1170
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 3: was Blues Traveler said that the hook, not the Apollo hook,

1171
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 3: but the hook brings you back.

1172
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, the Apollo hook takes you out. That's

1173
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: what he does, brings you back to the exit. I

1174
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, Charles Jordan is talented and has

1175
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 2: had some good performances. You know, he's certainly gonna know

1176
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 2: what the assignment is, right like break contact, circle, lateral movement, jab,

1177
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 2: you know, all that kind of stuff. So it's you know,

1178
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 2: the question is can he do it without making cataclysmic

1179
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 2: errors is really the only question should be able to.

1180
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: I don't have high hopes for Chrome, to be perfectly honest,

1181
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: his jitsu is amazing, But.

1182
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 3: I have amazingly high hopes for this featured prelab. This

1183
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 3: is the sex fight. Okay, buckle up, don't bet on it,

1184
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 3: just enjoy it. This is the fight where two guys

1185
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 3: are gonna come in there and whether you like it

1186
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 3: or not, Luke, in this era, they're gonna bang.

1187
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna absolutely they're gonna have metaphorical sex. It's gonna

1188
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: be great. They're gonna be great. Uh see one more time.

1189
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 3: Do you think Favola could end up one day becoming

1190
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 3: elite or do you think he's a really fun, hard

1191
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 3: to beat brawler.

1192
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's a really fun, hard to beat

1193
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: kind of a TV guy. Right. He's very talented with

1194
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: a good team. If you sleep on him, it's curtains

1195
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 2: for you. But he's gonna come at you. Do they

1196
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 2: call him steam rolla for a reason, Like he's coming

1197
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: at you like a freight train. That's just the way

1198
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 2: he goes, and so that's gonna get him some wins

1199
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 2: he probably shouldn't get in a good way. That's gonna

1200
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 2: get him some fans in a way, because he's gonna

1201
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: be balls out, but it's gonna get him some losses too.

1202
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 3: You know that's Billy cu'es boy, right.

1203
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah and their boys. So like shouts to Vola.

1204
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: I love him. I think he's great. I think he's

1205
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: very talented. He's super fun.

1206
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 3: Dober.

1207
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: By the way, don't sleep on Dover like this is

1208
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: an interesting he might be. He's the best version of

1209
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: himself by far, I think he's ever been. He's really

1210
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 2: pulled his game together, so that one should be very

1211
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: very interesting.

1212
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 3: I like that riding wind streaks of consecutive knockouts, Luke,

1213
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 3: It's like they're both coming into this one.

1214
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna remind everyone Phil Hawes versus ikram

1215
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: Alis scaov Alis scaarov is one of these dudes you

1216
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 2: should pay attention to. Is beaten. You're a slob. I'm

1217
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 2: a slob twice in combat sport, combat sambo and was

1218
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 2: giving humsat SCHAMAI have all kinds of problems. He does

1219
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: get brutally knocked out in that fight, but stuffed all

1220
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: of his takedowns and did it. By the way, with

1221
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 2: relative ease. So he is one to pay attention combat

1222
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 2: Zomble World champion himself, so one of these hammers to

1223
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: pay attention to see what he can do.

1224
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 3: Super sloppy special alert, Luke. I think it was a

1225
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 3: late ad East Hartford heavyweight product. Parker Porter is back.

1226
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 3: Didn't you just get sent to like the deep dark depths? Luke? Recently?

1227
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: Is this an alternate dimension Spider Man? Who is this?

1228
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 3: Thought? John back in the day? Right, Parker Porter? You

1229
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 3: know the guy that he's like a portly bald white

1230
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 3: guye Luke? Yeah, Yeah, dude, he's taking on Braxton Smith.

1231
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 3: You know he fought John Jones. Did you know that

1232
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 3: Volkanovsky played rugby and he waited two to fifteen?

1233
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: Luke?

1234
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 3: Did you know these things?

1235
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 2: They've mentioned it before? Yeah?

1236
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 3: I think all right, well, look he's gonna he's gonna

1237
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 3: come in here throwing, so that should be fun. Uh,

1238
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 3: you know there's still a market for that, you know.

1239
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 3: I just I just want to.

1240
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: Watch your sense of do you have the odds for

1241
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: me on jes Gone Rage and Jan Channon? How do

1242
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 2: the odds makers have that one size?

1243
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 3: Now minus two hundred for the former champion is plus

1244
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 3: one seventy.

1245
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: And this is Yeah, she has certainly ascended to her

1246
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: this position fairly, but she's a volume striker. Her takedowns

1247
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 2: are not going to get her the job done. And

1248
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: you're going up against just an absolute hammer in andrage.

1249
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: She can win. It's a tough assignment. That's a tough assign.

1250
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 3: I will remind you that Jan Channan in October took

1251
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 3: a majority decision over five rounds from the Mackenzie, and

1252
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 3: that was after a two fight losing skid. So she

1253
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 3: does have some momentum.

1254
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 2: Here, Luke, She certainly does, all right, Topic number four BC,

1255
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 2: let's get to some fight announcements. You can just give

1256
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: me the lay of the land, however you feel about them.

1257
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: I don't even know who the fuck this is. UFC Vegas,

1258
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 2: seventy three, May twentieth, Stephan Ersig taking on Clayton Carpenter.

1259
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: Do we care?

1260
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 3: Maybe this was Mikey's creative fighter in UFC four on

1261
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 3: EA Sports.

1262
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: All right, forget some Better's.

1263
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 3: Gonna send us to hell, Luke for not knowing Clayton

1264
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 3: cart It's fine.

1265
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 2: I don't care. This one, I think is the main event,

1266
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 2: which makes it somewhat significant. Because there's been like one

1267
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 2: hundred UFC events without a flyweight main event. I believe.

1268
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: I believe that the UFC Vegas seventy four June third

1269
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 2: card will be headlined by car France taking on Amir Albasi,

1270
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 2: which is a really fun flyweight contest, a great chance

1271
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: for Albazi to show what quality he is. By contrast,

1272
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: if Carl France still wants to make another run, and

1273
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: I think he has time to do it, it starts here.

1274
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Tim Elliott versus Victor Altim Morano also on that

1275
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 3: card in that division, so this should be good.

1276
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Speaker 2: Luke all right. UFC two eighty nine, June tenth, how

1277
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 2: about this one? Juliana Pennard broke her ribs and is

1278
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 2: out of the main event for UFC two eighty nine

1279
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: and instead BCC when Amanda Nunas takes on Irene al Donna,

1280
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 2: she this was what they should have done the beginning,

1281
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: which I get, but now they're gonna get it. I

1282
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 2: gotta tell you, dude, I think al Donna is a

1283
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: live dog here.

1284
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah, dude. She was supposed to be headlining

1285
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 3: in a rematch with Rocky Pennington on May twentieth, Luke,

1286
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to fix that fight. But those fights

1287
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 3: should not have been booked. It should have been this one.

1288
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 3: If you're the UFC, how are you not trying to

1289
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 3: ride the momentum of Mexican champions, especially when you got

1290
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 3: a red hot one here, somebody with some power against

1291
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 3: obviously the greatness of Amanda Nunas, but a potential. I

1292
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 3: know she fixed the problems, she righted the wrong. She

1293
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 3: was hurt and didn't have a great training camp ahead

1294
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 3: of Juliana, but she is at the age, Luke, where

1295
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 3: there's a real fight, there's a real, absolute, real fight.

1296
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 3: Aldana has a real chance coming in here and continuing

1297
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 3: this momentum. Why is it in Vancouver instead of Mexico City?

1298
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 3: Why isn't it book to begin with, Luke? Why not?

1299
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 3: All right?

1300
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,919
Speaker 2: I do I want to point this out, like if

1301
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 2: she wins this, she wins this, that means you're gonna

1302
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 2: have three full Mexican weight class champions, two of them

1303
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 2: being women, and then Yayi Rodriguez would fight to unify

1304
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: the interim title that he has against Wolkonowski the following

1305
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 2: UFC pay per view. Because this is two and nine,

1306
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 2: that's gonna be a UFC two ninety dude. They haven't

1307
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: booked a Mexico City card or whatever, Guadalajara, wherever they

1308
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 2: want to go, and they might have full four weight

1309
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 2: class champions by the middle of the summer, like this

1310
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 2: is the year of Mexican Mma. How is the UFC

1311
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 2: not clamoring to get back down there?

1312
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 3: I don't because the apex is so easy, Luke, It's

1313
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 3: just so easy to go there. And you know, we

1314
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 3: owe Jacksonville, we owe Houston, and weo tai Chi Palace.

1315
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 3: Still good? I mean one day that.

1316
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 2: That Taichi Palace is like the overdue library book that's

1317
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: just living under your bed that's never gonna get returned,

1318
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 2: all right, BC, UFC Vegas, seventy five, June tenth. I

1319
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 2: don't really care about this Ronny Lawrence taking on Dan Argetto.

1320
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, is there any quality control on these fight announcements here? Mike?

1321
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 3: Are we just not hardcore enough?

1322
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: Who are just killing Mikey on this one? UFC Jacksonville,

1323
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: June twenty fourth. This is good Brendan Allen, who has

1324
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 2: really began, I think, to turn some corners taken on

1325
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: Bruno Silva is doing the same thing and then David

1326
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 2: o'nama taking on Gabriel Santo's But that Alan versus Silva

1327
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 2: fight love love that.

1328
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's decent, it's desent.

1329
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 2: UFC Fight Night, July fifteenth BC. How about this one

1330
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 2: at one seventy of course, Vicente Luke taking on Halfaiel

1331
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 2: dos Ajos. Boy his resume. I've said it before. Man,

1332
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: you look at Ardier's resume, it's just hammers every single

1333
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 2: place you look, win or lose, it doesn't change. On

1334
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 2: July fifteenth, that fucking guy gets after it.

1335
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 3: I know, and I you know he has come off

1336
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 3: coming off getting stopped. I hope he's not entering the

1337
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 3: point in his career where he just continually gets stopped.

1338
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 3: But I mean, not too long ago, Luke, he was

1339
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 3: looking like he still had another run in him. So

1340
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 3: this is a very interesting fight. I mean it's like

1341
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 3: Luke is in kind of a tough spot Luke because

1342
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 3: he kind of peaked already and had his Oh man,

1343
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 3: is this guy a real contender? This would be a

1344
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 3: big win.

1345
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 2: Though.

1346
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 3: You get a name like that on there to tread

1347
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 3: water and stay around in that division. Norma Dumont Chelsea

1348
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 3: Chandler also on that card. I don't know if that

1349
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 3: gets you out of bed, you know, it's all right.

1350
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 2: UFC London, July twenty second. I'm not going to read

1351
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 2: all these BC, but the one that really does stand

1352
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 2: out to me that thinks kind of interesting Mark Gacase

1353
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 2: taken on Joel Alvarez. Joel Alvarez a really good fighter

1354
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 2: out of Spain, and he ran into arminsr yuki in

1355
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 2: Okay and didn't look good there. He is absolutely a

1356
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 2: threat to win that fight, make no mistake about it.

1357
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of Londoners added to this card too, Luke.

1358
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: David Grant, David Grant's a good fighter. I like Dave.

1359
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 2: I mean there's good fighters on it. Jai Herbert taking

1360
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 2: on Forrezon. They mean they're good fighters, but not not

1361
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 2: meaningful matchups. Okay, a couple more UFC fight Night on

1362
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 2: August nineteenth. How about Cody Garbran versus Mario Bautista BC.

1363
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 2: What do you feel about that?

1364
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 3: This is at bantamweight? Yeah? Yeah, I mean, you know,

1365
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna'm gonna watch it through my fingers, Luke and

1366
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 3: hopeful the best, right, you know, that's where we're at.

1367
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 3: That's where we're at.

1368
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 2: And then lastly, I think also for that same fight

1369
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 2: night card, though we're not sure about the timing, but

1370
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 2: it looks like Brian Ortega is gonna fight Giga Chakazi.

1371
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 2: This was first reported by uh I think Giga's own

1372
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 2: IG channel Knockout Cancers.

1373
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 3: Have Ilia Tuporia against Josh Emmett coming up as well,

1374
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 3: so that division has kind of just continually given us

1375
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 3: the the goods here Luke for Tega, I said it before,

1376
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 3: I'll say it once more. Dude, He's gonna He's got

1377
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 3: another run still in him, Luke, He's still gonna surprise

1378
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 3: you and beat guys that you're you know he should.

1379
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 3: He's got to balance out the game plan and the

1380
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 3: attack for sure. But tell me, Brian Ortega is in

1381
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 3: Musty TV.

1382
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 2: Look he is, dude, Dude, both both of these guys.

1383
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: Both of these guys are just in their own ways devastating.

1384
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 2: But man, I gotta tell you, Brian Ortega, they keep

1385
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: giving him dudes that like punch and kick really hard

1386
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: and are really tough. And I know that sounds like

1387
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 2: a little weird to say, because he's a fistfighter at

1388
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: the highest level for a living, but it's not like

1389
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 2: they gave him Sean Brady, who you're thinking more of

1390
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 2: a grappling contest. That's not easy either, but you know

1391
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 2: you're not risking getting liver kicked, probably too great in

1392
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 2: that sense. Or mossrev Loev, who's also going to wrestle

1393
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: you in certain kinds of ways. They keep giving him

1394
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 2: these guys that are just like punishers, you know what

1395
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 2: I mean, absolute punishers.

1396
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 3: Look, if if Volkanovsky wasn't an absolute badass and an

1397
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 3: all time great, or Tego would have won the title

1398
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 3: that night. I think you understood that.

1399
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: I think you would have of you that that he

1400
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 2: would have, he would have And I want to see

1401
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 2: what happened you know what kind of condition he's in

1402
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 2: after that? Weird you here Rodriguez fired like that was yeah,

1403
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: weird the break up.

1404
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 3: The breakup as well, Luke, that was I mean they

1405
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 3: were they were the hot power couple of the moment.

1406
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 2: They no longer together.

1407
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 3: According to Instagram know him and Tracy Cortez unless I

1408
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 3: miss something.

1409
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, young love BC. It doesn't last, you know.

1410
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 3: You know his his DMS though, wow, right, probably just

1411
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 3: I mean just yeah, yeah, you.

1412
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: Were seeing those fish Marcus and Seattle they throw the

1413
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 2: fish at you.

1414
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude, that's what it's.

1415
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 2: Every time his ms are like, you're just catching catching

1416
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 2: all that seafood, all right.

1417
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, to be young Luke and in single with you know,

1418
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 3: with confidence and money, I mean, you know and looks.

1419
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 3: I mean, what would that be like? I don't you

1420
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 3: know what would.

1421
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 4: It be like?

1422
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 2: Couldn't tell you.

1423
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like that must have been great being

1424
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 3: in n sync for that run, you know. I mean,

1425
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 3: I'm sure they did damage Luke, you know. Wow.

1426
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 2: All right, all right, see, let's go to topic number

1427
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 2: five here. If we can't, let's get to it. Francis

1428
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: and Ghanu update. So there's been a couple of things

1429
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 2: that have happened since Monday show. Namely, there's been some

1430
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 2: reports it looks like Ariel Hajane I believe said he

1431
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 2: had spoken in fact to Francis Nghanu and during the

1432
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 2: course of that conversation, and there's been other reports as well,

1433
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: it does look like a signing with the PFL is imminent.

1434
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 2: From what I've heard, it is a fantastically lucrative deal,

1435
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 2: more so than you ever might imagine. But it would

1436
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 2: only be his MMA deal. There would still be a

1437
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 2: boxing deal from everybody.

1438
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 3: Shut up about Francis screwed up and made the wrong

1439
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 3: decision and no one wants to work with him anymore.

1440
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 3: And he's yesterday's news. Dude. He was being quiet during

1441
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 3: a negotiation like you're supposed to, and, according to these reports,

1442
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 3: about to absolutely cash in without even you know, because

1443
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 3: it doesn't look like while there are a Joshua, any

1444
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 3: of those guys could be available for a crossover boxing

1445
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 3: fight right now. That's the reality, look right, that's probably.

1446
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 2: The biggest reality right at the moment.

1447
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 3: Yes, so you know, it looks like he's got so look,

1448
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 3: I gotta ask you, if you're one championship in Shatri

1449
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 3: sid yong Ta, then why are you coming out two

1450
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 3: days before that and almost negatively saying, oh, we've pulled

1451
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 3: out of the negotiations. This guy wants too much. And

1452
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 3: I know it wasn't just him, because David Feldman of

1453
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 3: BKFC also seemed to be going out of his way

1454
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 3: to let people know that he believes in Ganho is

1455
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,759
Speaker 3: pricing himself out, which may be true for the BCFC model.

1456
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 3: Don't you know, I don't see the inside.

1457
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, dude. They Okay, So I said this

1458
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,719
Speaker 2: on Twitter and I'll repeat it here. I appreciate all

1459
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 2: the lengths in terms of getting it regulated and promoting

1460
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 2: it and paying guys and all the little pieces. Remember

1461
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 2: Dave Felman is who runs BKFC. He's not just trying

1462
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 2: to do another show and you just show up to

1463
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 2: the commission and do everything. Even that would be a

1464
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 2: difficult task. He's actually doing another sport that requires another

1465
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: degree of regulation on top of it. That makes it

1466
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 2: even more difficult. So I really appreciate everything Dave Feldman

1467
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: has done to see his vision through. But he told

1468
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: Arihlwana I think on Monday he has put up two

1469
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 2: mortgages to make the last event go through. Guys, if

1470
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: that is his financial situation, of of course they fucking

1471
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 2: couldn't afford Francis and Gandu. What are you thinking? I

1472
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 2: want to say something else? BC two And why would

1473
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 2: Chatr come out and say it? I don't, I don't.

1474
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 2: Why does Chatri do things that make no sense?

1475
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 3: I don't.

1476
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 2: Nobody keeps doing them. He keeps doing them. So there's

1477
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 2: that look.

1478
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 3: I'd love to see you and Chatri one on one

1479
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 3: in an interview.

1480
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, It's funny that was supposed to happen

1481
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 2: this week and then one of the parties pulled out.

1482
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 2: But it wasn't It wasn't me. Okay, neither here nor there.

1483
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 3: I was gonna keep your laundry and your dryer there.

1484
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they he just keeps fucking with me

1485
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 2: and thinking I'm not gonna notice, like I'm gonna notice,

1486
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 2: but okay, neither here nor there. This is what I

1487
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 2: don't understand about, folks. I mean, I guess I do. Guys,

1488
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 2: you have to understand something about sports media, and the

1489
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 2: media is certainly being no different. It's mostly fake news.

1490
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 2: It's mostly mostly fake news. What do I mean by that.

1491
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 2: There's lots of ways you could understand it, but here's

1492
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 2: a clear one. If you are a person of significance

1493
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 2: in the industry, they'll just take whatever you say without

1494
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 2: any vetting whatsoever and then ample it. So, for example,

1495
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 2: Scott Coker can go, yeah, we're in the we're negotiating

1496
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: with Diaz to blah blah blah a deal. Meanwhile, they

1497
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 2: haven't even like Beltore, never even spoke to anyone in

1498
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,480
Speaker 2: his team, like just utterly not true in any capacity.

1499
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 2: But Coker understands how the game is played. He knows

1500
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 2: if he says it, it'll get amplified and then make

1501
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 2: himself look good. Chatri is literally just saying things. Now,

1502
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 2: some of them may be true, maybe true in part,

1503
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: true in certain ways and false and other ones. But

1504
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 2: a promoter going out there and basically talking bad about

1505
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 2: a guy who was unable to come to a deal

1506
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 2: with this is a time honor tradition in boxing, certainly

1507
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 2: certainly true in MMA as well, and if you have

1508
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 2: lived enough life cycles of MMA, because I can tell

1509
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 2: there's a lot of new fans who didn't live like

1510
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 2: I did through the Randy Catore era, who who didn't

1511
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 2: live like I did with bjpenn scorning them, who didn't

1512
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 2: live like I lived through the Pride era, and guys

1513
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: picking Pride over UFC, and what what would ultimately happen

1514
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 2: to them? In terms of how promoter who fail to

1515
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 2: sign their services, we'll talk about them. They just do

1516
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 2: this shit all the time, guys, all the time, and

1517
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 2: the vast majority of the time it's either wrong or

1518
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 2: false or just made up or nothing. Guys. If the

1519
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 2: things that they have said, Promoters whose job it is

1520
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: to lie are not secondarily vetted. You are under no

1521
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 2: obligation to believe any of it.

1522
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 3: You don't have to believe, says often. But that's about it.

1523
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 2: Like Jod Dana has, I'll never forget this. I'll never

1524
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 2: forget Dana lying on the record about what's happening with

1525
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 2: the Ultimate Fighter, with Tito and Chuck and Rich coming in.

1526
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 2: And then folks asked him, didn't you just lie on

1527
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 2: the record. He's like, yes, so what get deal with

1528
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 2: it. It's like, okay, we will deal with it. We'll deal

1529
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 2: with it by suggesting that we can't say everything you

1530
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 2: say is false. But you're not in any way entitled

1531
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: to this notion that what you're saying is true until proven. Otherwise,

1532
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: none of it is true until it is proven. When

1533
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 2: you're talking about promoters in this space and the MMA

1534
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:06,520
Speaker 2: media just amplifying shit they're saying without any verification whatsoever.

1535
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 3: I was at UFC one ninety nine in the bowels

1536
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 3: the afternoon of and Brett and I ran into Dana,

1537
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 3: and Brett interviewed him and brought up brock Lesner. Of

1538
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 3: course that was announced that night, and you know, led

1539
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 3: to Arioals exit and all that. But Dana was like, yeah,

1540
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 3: absolutely not unequickly, we have not even spoken to Lesnar, so.

1541
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 2: Right, they'll just they'll just say shit, so like if

1542
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 2: they'll say it, And then Dana says, we've never even

1543
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 2: spoken to brock Lesler becomes a headline. It almost lives

1544
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 2: its own life. If you live in MMA long enough,

1545
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 2: what you're gonna see are popular fighters scorn promoters in

1546
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 2: various circumstances, and those promoters use a very pliant media

1547
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 2: to assassinate their character in the aftermath. It happens over

1548
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 2: and over and over. Time is a flat circle. Look

1549
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 2: at my gray hair, folks, I have seen this fucking

1550
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 2: movie before. If this is new to you, great, it

1551
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 2: ain't new to me.

1552
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 3: I just want to clarify. Are you trying to say

1553
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 3: that if you hang around at MMA long enough, you're

1554
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 3: going to see buttholes either in terms of lying or

1555
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 3: on only stands, right, Like, you know it's what either way,

1556
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 3: it's just you know, right, I'm just.

1557
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 2: Getting I'm just saying, like, this is what I want

1558
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 2: folks to take away. A promoter having a failed negotiation. Listen,

1559
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 2: maybe they just couldn't come to terms or what Ariel

1560
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 2: said was basically Francis kind of already has a deal.

1561
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,679
Speaker 2: They're you know, they're they're crossing t's and dotting eyes.

1562
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 2: But it's more or less they've got a deal in place.

1563
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 2: You know, he would take a meeting with somebody else,

1564
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 2: but it would take a lot for them to undo

1565
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,640
Speaker 2: what he's already got down this path. But you know,

1566
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 2: in the interest of good faith, take the meeting and

1567
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 2: see what happens. And look, they couldn't come to a deal.

1568
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 2: That's the end of it. Maybe because one has a

1569
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: big event, which by the way, I think is a

1570
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 2: great event on Friday. This is a way to look

1571
01:14:58,200 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 2: good in the event that some of their news comes

1572
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 2: out about him signing with some of the promoter. Who

1573
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 2: the hell knows all I'm trying to point out to

1574
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 2: you is guys, a promoter saying things negatively about a

1575
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 2: fighter they were unable to work with. Never ever, ever

1576
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 2: take that at face value what they say. Never never

1577
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 2: do that classic rookie mistake.

1578
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 3: I mean, that's duty why. I mean their used to

1579
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 3: the promoters are used car salesman, and that's what their

1580
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 3: job is, to seduce you into buying or clicking or whatever.

1581
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that's how that works. But look, let's

1582
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 3: talk about the reality of this is that if this

1583
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 3: is the direction it goes, oh quickly on a dead wrong.

1584
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 3: You claimed that BKFC paid Connor McGregor for the appearance.

1585
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 3: Dave Feldman told Ariel absolutely not, but that they were

1586
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 3: using Connor's security for the event, and that led to

1587
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 3: Connor reaching out to them and saying that he wanted

1588
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 3: to come.

1589
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 2: I didn't say it was definitive. I said it was

1590
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 2: my hunch. But fair enough. If that hunch is wrong,

1591
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: then it's wrong.

1592
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about the real life decision here. I

1593
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,440
Speaker 3: get why BKFC couldn't afford because, look, you know, if

1594
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 3: and Gan, who knows he's in the business of either

1595
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 3: getting a one night windfall in boxing that would change

1596
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 3: his life or whatever the best MMA contract is in

1597
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 3: terms of bouts in length and money, why would he

1598
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 3: then do BKFC for like a million or two million?

1599
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 2: Right?

1600
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 3: Like, it just doesn't make any sense. So that's all

1601
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 3: a non factor here. It seemed as if we had

1602
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 3: better heavyweights right away in one that we would have

1603
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 3: wanted to see him against. But when you look at

1604
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 3: PFL and it just moved and one I want to

1605
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 3: see him against Boo Lah. I want to see him against.

1606
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have one guy I like Archin Buller. You

1607
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 2: could do that fight, but it's not going to do

1608
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 2: big business. And Malakin is a real threat to beat him.

1609
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 2: That's it. They don't have anybody else do Okay, like

1610
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: that was never about it?

1611
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 3: Well, who else has what? Anyway? PFL as it stands, Luke,

1612
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 3: is this just the beginning to get more heavyweights and

1613
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 3: put on pay per view super fights within gan who

1614
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 3: has the face of it until Jig Paul is ready?

1615
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 3: Or is this in Gono entering into their heavyweight division

1616
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:01,799
Speaker 3: trying to make it his own again.

1617
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 2: For a lot of the folks who may be new

1618
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 2: to the sport, here's something else that we should pay

1619
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 2: attention to see if it can happen. And it may

1620
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 2: not be able to happen. But in other times when

1621
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 2: you had someone who was like the number one guy

1622
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 2: and not in the UFC, for example, you would see

1623
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 2: guys leave the promotion to go to him to see

1624
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 2: if they can make fights possible. I think it is

1625
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 2: not a coincidence that if Francis is signing with the

1626
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 2: PFL and he's doing some under a lucrative deal that

1627
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 2: at the same time, we're hearing rumblings which I have confirmed,

1628
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 2: there is some legitimacy to that PFL is trying to

1629
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 2: buy Bellator. Now I don't know if they'll be successful.

1630
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 2: What I mean to say, if you're the PFL, you

1631
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 2: need money for a lot of things. One, you got

1632
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 2: to get Francis and you got to get him happy,

1633
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 2: and you got to get him a deal that works

1634
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 2: for all the parties including him. And two you need

1635
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 2: to have money set aside for his rivals because unless

1636
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 2: you can attract them, it's not really going to work.

1637
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 2: But remember PFL is in the pay per view space.

1638
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 2: PFL already has a deal with ESPN. They're in a

1639
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 2: much better place to POTENTI we offer him the financial

1640
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 2: upside and his opponent's financial upside through that very pay

1641
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 2: per view buying mechanism in ways that other promoters simply

1642
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 2: do not have that capability.

1643
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 3: Are you trying to tell me we could end up

1644
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 3: seeing in Ghanu versus Bader?

1645
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 2: I think if you're PFL and you're just really making

1646
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 2: a big move, we're gonna get the number. You know,

1647
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 2: whoever you think is number one? Have weight him or John,

1648
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 2: we're gonna get the top guide heavyweight, whatever, top free agent,

1649
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 2: certainly at heavyweight, and then we're gonna build around him.

1650
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 2: In order to do that, we're gonna purchase the heavyweight

1651
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 2: division or everything else assets out of Bellatore. That's a

1652
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 2: smart play. It's a huge play. It's a risky play,

1653
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 2: but it's not a dumb play. It's not a dumb one.

1654
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 3: It's an interesting no, And that's the question I asked

1655
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 3: you two questions ago. It is for a reason. I

1656
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 3: don't know if you have him long enough where you're

1657
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 3: going all in on in Ghano at this age and

1658
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 3: I still think you know heavyweight's age. Later he does

1659
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 3: have to bounce back from that knee injury. We'll see.

1660
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 3: You probably want him in your season, though much is

1661
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 3: your you You need to launch this pay per view

1662
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 3: division to justify paying Jake Paul and bring him in

1663
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 3: and trying to do something with Kayla Harrison potentially all that.

1664
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 3: Trying to bring in Cyborg, right, Kayla versus Cyborg would

1665
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 3: be an interesting offering. I wonder, Luke, if it's if

1666
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 3: it's for the season, for pay per view or both,

1667
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. They're gonna have some decisions

1668
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 3: to make. But if they are joining with a bellatar

1669
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 3: I mean and signing and ganu, yeah, we gotta we

1670
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 3: gotta sit up a little bit taller in the chair

1671
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 3: and go. We may have strikeforce all over again, which

1672
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 3: I prefer better for the sport look than anything else.

1673
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 3: I want to get into this John Jones' debate, though,

1674
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 3: are we right?

1675
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to move along anyway, So let's move

1676
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 2: on to the next sort of level of this, which

1677
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 2: is John Jones did an interview I guess with like

1678
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Australia or something. I don't even know who

1679
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 2: it was. But in the course of this interview, they

1680
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 2: based ask him every question that you might imagine that

1681
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 2: they would, including like, you know, how many fights do

1682
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 2: you have left? And what he basically said was, you know,

1683
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 2: I got the stepe A fight and then I'm probably done.

1684
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 2: But then he added this little detail which blew my

1685
01:19:56,120 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 2: fucking mind. Let's spoil the tape. It's just a huge challenge.

1686
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 3: But no one knows who he is.

1687
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, on the grand scheme of things, no one knows

1688
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 4: who is I think Luke Thomas said it best. He

1689
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 4: was saying that high risk, very low reward where you

1690
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 4: could fight a guy like Francis Lugano and get the

1691
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 4: whole world talking. It'd be worth the risk, it'd be

1692
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 4: worth the money, it'd be worth all of it. So

1693
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 4: who knows, Maybe the UFC will come with the right

1694
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 4: numbers and we can make this surrogate thing happen. But

1695
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 4: as of right now, I got all I got, like,

1696
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:34,799
Speaker 4: you know, all the accolades, you know.

1697
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 2: Nothing really to prove.

1698
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 4: And yeah, I think Francis fight would would get me

1699
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 4: really excited to maybe keep going.

1700
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 3: He'll be fooled, don't be fooled. Okay, all right, let's

1701
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 3: start first on the first of all, that was Nick

1702
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 3: Walshaw doing the interview for Fox Sports Australia. Look, he

1703
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 3: reached out to me to send me the time speck

1704
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 3: there to get John talking about before we get into

1705
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 3: the reality of this, John Jones just agreed, just admitted

1706
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 3: Luke that he he sees your stuff. Man. He seems

1707
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 3: to still have a respect for you, Luke. Okay, So

1708
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 3: imagine RSD with Shatri RSD with John Jones. I'm keeping

1709
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 3: this open. Look, I'm keeping this open.

1710
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't quite get it. Here's what I think

1711
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 2: has happened because I don't. He doesn't follow me on

1712
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 2: any social outland. He could have a burner who knows,

1713
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 2: but I know Brandon Gibson does, and maybe Brandon Gibson

1714
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 2: sent him some stuff. It just is so weird to me.

1715
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, I could have used this attitude at

1716
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 2: the presser at UFC two to fourteen, John, Thanks.

1717
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 3: Thank you could have used this would have been nice.

1718
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 3: You know that moment was so good though, even though

1719
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 3: you're on the losing end of it. Yeah, you just

1720
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,600
Speaker 3: have to be happy it happened, Luke, and that you

1721
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 3: were able to be witnessed to it, because I mean

1722
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,680
Speaker 3: he did grab the alley oop, Luke, and he put

1723
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 3: it down. I mean he did put it. Liked you

1724
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 3: to be sour in return or something, But you know

1725
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 3: you allowed a moment to happen, Luke. Let's talk about

1726
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,799
Speaker 3: this moment, because before you had heard that sound bite,

1727
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 3: you texted me the link here that made the rounds

1728
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,640
Speaker 3: off of this interview, of which John saying, look, you

1729
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 3: know I got nothing to gain fight in Sergey high risk.

1730
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 2: Low reward, which I still think is true.

1731
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 3: I am retiring after stepe this fall you've held firm

1732
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 3: on that belief. I've always countered you and said no,

1733
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 3: as long as John is winning, he loves being on top.

1734
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 3: He loves adding to that legend he sat out three years.

1735
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 3: He's hungry, he wants to be active. I get everything

1736
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 3: he said on the first half of that sound bite

1737
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 3: which produced that headline and produced you going CBC. I

1738
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 3: know my shit. But did you hear what John said

1739
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 3: at the end of it.

1740
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well maybe I didn't hear much of it.

1741
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 2: I didn't hear much in the way of challenging it.

1742
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 2: I mean, well, here, I.

1743
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 3: Think that just exposes what this is. John is rightfully

1744
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 3: so following the script here in the terms of public

1745
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 3: negotiation to try to be in a better spot with

1746
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 3: the UFC than he's ever bet in terms of being

1747
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 3: cunning and trying to get the most out of it.

1748
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 3: If he was trying to show show them how much

1749
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 3: they need him by basically throwing out you know, yeah,

1750
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 3: only Francis would get me excited and trying to be like, yeah,

1751
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 3: I don't need to fight that guy. That's you know,

1752
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 3: that's the blueprint on how to try to get the

1753
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 3: UFC's attention. As to oh, John's gonna want to be

1754
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 3: paid moving forward for stuff. They already know that, Luke,

1755
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 3: that's just him posturing. He's not looking to go anywhere.

1756
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 3: He basically said it at the end. He showed his

1757
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 3: cards right there. Hip fight Sergey Tomorrow. Dude, he's not

1758
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,600
Speaker 3: afraid of that guy. He would do it. They just

1759
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 3: got to pay him for it. It will be interesting

1760
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 3: to see John Jones' future fight by fight, if it

1761
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 3: does extend Pastipe, and whether he'll end up getting in

1762
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 3: the long run, both what he wants, which is, you know,

1763
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 3: it started with wilder money, let's see where it is now,

1764
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 3: but also look to be fair what he deserves. Because

1765
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 3: love him or hate him, John's the greatest ever have

1766
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,799
Speaker 3: done this. We've never seen him really lose. He's still

1767
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 3: doing it. He's you know, pay that demand his money.

1768
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: Luke.

1769
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 3: Okay, seriously, you know what I'm saying. Keep that.

1770
01:23:58,520 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, let me tell you what I heard,

1771
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 2: Let me say what I heard. And again it's all

1772
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 2: function of interpretation. And because we don't have dialogue with John,

1773
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 2: we are.

1774
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 3: Technologist. Luke as my therapist about that, all.

1775
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 2: Right, Uh, here's what I would say. My read is

1776
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 2: that he feels like he has work he needs to

1777
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 2: do to cement a certain legacy, which would include the

1778
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 2: step Ay fight. Yes, like most athletes, if their money

1779
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 2: is right and and lucrative enough, they'll say yes to

1780
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 2: a lot of things that are out there. But so

1781
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 2: can I rule out a Sagei Pavlovitch fight. I certainly cannot.

1782
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 2: I certainly cannot. But I have a feeling that when

1783
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 2: the steep Ay fight is over, unless it was like

1784
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 2: if this, I'll say this, if the step Bay fight

1785
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 2: is like a joke and like ridiculously easy, he'll come

1786
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 2: back from more. I think potentially. But my feeling is

1787
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 2: that what he's saying is he's really not interested in it.

1788
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 2: He does agree with my analysis that yes, the risk

1789
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 2: is high because a whole Hello, Sergey Pavlovitch is really good.

1790
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 2: But I know fans were like, do he'd be a

1791
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 2: pay per view star? Guys, you couldn't be. You couldn't

1792
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 2: be more wrong. It's not true at all, Like, yes,

1793
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 2: Stepe's name has faded. That is absolutely true, but there's

1794
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 2: still some historical value to it. Pavlovich fights in Russia.

1795
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 2: Russian the Russian channel that airs UFC is is on

1796
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 2: part of the cable package. There is no pay per

1797
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 2: view over there. Pavlovich has no Q rating over here

1798
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 2: in the United States, it would not do well on

1799
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 2: pay per view, but Jones is a big name. He

1800
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 2: would boost it to some degree. If the money is right. Yes,

1801
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 2: I could not rule it out, but I'm gonna say,

1802
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,759
Speaker 2: as of today, we'll see how the Steepe fight goes.

1803
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 2: As of today, I think he's Steepe and done. I

1804
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 2: don't think he really.

1805
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 3: Has anger unless he goes through a war with Stepe

1806
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 3: and then starts to question.

1807
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 2: You know, hey, if it's a war, you would agree.

1808
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 2: If it's a war, you would agree. He probably does

1809
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 2: call a quits, right.

1810
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 3: Because I do think part of him is looking at

1811
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 3: if I get out before a loss, right, if I

1812
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 3: get out on my own terms, before I get forced out.

1813
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 3: He knows what that does to his longevity and legacy.

1814
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 3: And I do think he really cares about that, by

1815
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 3: the way, but I think it's because he cares about

1816
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 3: that that he's more likely to stay Luke and it just, Dude,

1817
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 3: comes down to the pig, I mean, Lucause here's the thing.

1818
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,839
Speaker 3: What he leaned in on the comments in this interview

1819
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 3: to explain why he would walk away did seem largely legit.

1820
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 3: He said, look, I want to be a dad, and

1821
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 3: I think he's been home for three years for the

1822
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 3: most part. There was some real tumult in there with

1823
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 3: his family. If they're in the best place ever and

1824
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 3: he's recommitted, I don't doubt that a recommitment is in there.

1825
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 3: He's at the age where you know, life's slowing down

1826
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 3: just a little bit. He's starting to realize what's most important.

1827
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 3: But I think the combination of the competitor in John

1828
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 3: and the guy who can't sit still he needs to

1829
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 3: walk in the direction of danger. I think it's a

1830
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 3: he'll realize the healthier way to walk that out might

1831
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 3: actually be being in top level shape, getting you know,

1832
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 3: a lauded with his flowers and going out there one

1833
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 3: by one and defending that belt and further cementing himself

1834
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 3: in history. Because I think if he just said no,

1835
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 3: one went back to being in a dad Luke, he's gonna,

1836
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 3: you know, they're it's gonna I'm knocking it, you know,

1837
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:02,680
Speaker 3: a couple of months later, a year later, it's going

1838
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 3: to come knocking Luke. Okay, dude, I.

1839
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 2: Think I'll tell you what, all of these guys because

1840
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 2: they want to prove something. I don't say this pejoratively.

1841
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 2: I just say it realistically. There is a bit of

1842
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 2: insecurity to all of them, and they have a need

1843
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 2: to prove something to themselves, to their families, to the world,

1844
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 2: to whoever. Of all the years I've been covering John Jones,

1845
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 2: and I've been covering him since, I mean not in

1846
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 2: the regional scene, but from the Andre Goussmau fight on,

1847
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 2: this is far intoway the most content I've heard him

1848
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 2: talk about his own accomplishments. Never have I ever heard

1849
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 2: him with a certain kind of easy comfortability with what

1850
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 2: he has produced in the sport. Now to that point,

1851
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean you're wrong, and doesn't mean I'm right

1852
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 2: that it's not what that means, but it is worth

1853
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 2: considering that from what I can tell, this is the

1854
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 2: most accomplishment centered and understanding John Jones I've ever covered.

1855
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,719
Speaker 3: For sure, Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. It's gonna

1856
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 3: be fun to see, but I fun. Look if if

1857
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 3: there's nobody to fill that hole, a top heavyweight and

1858
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 3: be that star and in Ghan who isn't coming back,

1859
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 3: who is that gonna be Luke. I don't think John

1860
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 3: is just like, fine, it's not gonna be.

1861
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 2: I think it's not gonna be. Yeah, it's not gonna be.

1862
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 2: There's not gonna be any of that. So all right,

1863
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 2: uh Kamaru Usman. By the way, how about he's eye

1864
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 2: in a fight with Hamzat Chimayev Okay, According to Brett Okamoto,

1865
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 2: this is what he said, I'm number one in the world.

1866
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 2: This is Usman, I'm number world, number one in the world.

1867
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 2: You think he means ranked contenders? Who's number two Colby?

1868
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 2: They're gonna fight talking about Leon, but three is Chimayev.

1869
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 2: So I think a fight with myself and Hamza boom,

1870
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: what's the biggest, funnest, most intense fight that really makes

1871
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 2: me feel excited? That's the fight right there. If he

1872
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 2: wants a shot at the Waltzawag strap, you kind of

1873
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 2: have to give it a little bit of and say, hey,

1874
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 2: I can get down here. So if he's able to

1875
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 2: do it, potentially yeah, And if it's up aweight, yeah

1876
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 2: potentially as well. That is the number one fight, the

1877
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 2: biggest one out there that makes sense. That's a pay

1878
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 2: per view in itself. BCD. Do you agree that that

1879
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 2: is the best next fight for Kamar Rusman and would

1880
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 2: be pay per vieworthy by itself.

1881
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 3: This just answered, in my eyes the questions we had

1882
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 3: after that second straight loss to Edwards where suddenly everyone's like, oh,

1883
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 3: he might retire too. How bad does he want it?

1884
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 3: What's left in that tank? Emotionally, not physically, emotionally, you know,

1885
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 3: in the drive. I think he answered it for me here.

1886
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 3: Let's give him credit, Luke. He's always been smart and

1887
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 3: how he positions himself. I know that sometimes people don't

1888
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 3: like the persona he uses, or they think he's fake,

1889
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 3: or they don't think he's.

1890
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,640
Speaker 2: He did No one liked the fight after he was

1891
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:33,879
Speaker 2: in Chile, where he was like, yeah that was thirty percent.

1892
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:37,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, there's been missteps along the way, there's no question,

1893
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:40,640
Speaker 3: but between getting that movie role and some of the

1894
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:44,480
Speaker 3: like like, dude, he's positioned himself to have big arguments

1895
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 3: in the all time great, you know, legacy thing, even

1896
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 3: with the losses to Edwards. So if he's going back

1897
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 3: to the bulletin board and saying, Okay, how bad do

1898
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 3: I want this? What do I have left? What are

1899
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 3: my potential biggest challenges? No one's going to go out

1900
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:58,639
Speaker 3: of their way to want him to fight Edwards again

1901
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 3: for the welterweight title unless he goes through t Tremaiah

1902
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 3: first and on the flip side with him saying I'll

1903
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 3: even fight him a weight class up. To me, that's

1904
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 3: really smart because if he had designs on cutting the

1905
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 3: line and getting a middleweight title shot, although obviously with

1906
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 3: at Asanya there with the belt and their friendship, you

1907
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 3: do have to question if that's possible, what would be

1908
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 3: the best or quickest way to cut that line. Oh,

1909
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 3: I don't know, how about beating Hamzat chimayav So it

1910
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 3: works across both divisions. It is a badass fight. You know,

1911
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 3: he's somebody who's been focused on the financial prize. That's

1912
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 3: why he was willing when he was on top to

1913
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 3: offer his name for a Canelo fight that you know

1914
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 3: is not even remotely smart in a lot of reasons

1915
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 3: except for financial. I think across the board, this is

1916
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 3: a power move Luke, and it shows how badly he

1917
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 3: understands the game and how badly he still wants to

1918
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 3: be in there and prove that he's among the best.

1919
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 3: He's not done trying to add to his legacy. Luke

1920
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 3: I can only applaud that. Dude. Can we finally agree

1921
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:00,040
Speaker 3: this guy's pretty cool, Luke? I mean addresses.

1922
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, I mean he went too. He went to

1923
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 2: kids party, which yeah.

1924
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 3: Okay, so I didn't like that either. I mean, he's

1925
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 3: definitely a cornball. But Luke, he's a badass competitor at

1926
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 3: the end of the day.

1927
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 2: He certainly is. He certainly is a extremely not just decorated,

1928
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:22,719
Speaker 2: but commendable competitor in that way. I have great respect

1929
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:23,639
Speaker 2: for him in that regard.

1930
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Speaker 3: Thank you.

1931
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 2: All right, my drink spilled while you were talking, so

1932
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:30,680
Speaker 2: I had to clean the Sorry about that. I'm not

1933
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 2: gonna read the whole.

1934
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna read.

1935
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 2: You know what. Next time we're in Jersey City together,

1936
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna jack off in all your clothing and

1937
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 2: be like this, Mitchell. Does you know what I'm saying?

1938
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 3: Oh wow, it's just wow.

1939
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 2: We should we should? Just we should? You know what?

1940
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 2: We should? I might get fired for saying this, but

1941
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 2: I'm saying, there's interesting ways we could do an old

1942
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 2: school room service diaries like Bryce Mitchell edition.

1943
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, looks like I got an

1944
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 3: idea for a new segment we'll call it circle jerk.

1945
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 3: It's great. You know, no one's good, no one's gonna

1946
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 3: have an issue with it.

1947
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, sure, b se. I'm not gonna read

1948
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 2: the whole thing. But apparently on something called the Leathered Podcast,

1949
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:13,959
Speaker 2: Paul Craig has said, yeah, he's gonna drop to middleweight.

1950
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 2: He has eight kilograms to cut in water weight. He

1951
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 2: thinks there's an opportunity. So right, they got a bit

1952
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 2: of time, just had a nose operation. Let's see if

1953
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 2: we can make the weight and go in on Saturday,

1954
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 2: and it's far hard and see if we can perform.

1955
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 2: So it's looks gonna test it out. Do you like

1956
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 2: the idea of Paul Craig at middleweight?

1957
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 3: First of all, the Leathered Podcast sounds like an S

1958
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 3: and M show, and I can actually see Paul Craig

1959
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 3: showing up on that, because you should.

1960
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 2: Who's the Ashley Evan Smith. You should go on the

1961
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 2: Ashley Evan Smith podcast where he struck like about fighters

1962
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 2: who bang and stuff, and just tell every watched episode.

1963
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 3: I've listened to episodes of that with people that you

1964
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 3: would expect that I would want to tune in to

1965
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 3: listen to on that and I got to be honest

1966
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 3: with Luke. I walked away from it. I'm like, you

1967
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,720
Speaker 3: know what, this is too close, It's just too much,

1968
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 3: just too much, Luke. This is why I'm not on OnlyFans,

1969
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 3: I guess, Luke, Okay, this is too much. Okay, I'm

1970
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 3: a I'm a sophisticated gentleman and a pillar in my

1971
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 3: own society. Look at least I like to hope, So no,

1972
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 3: I won't listen to that. Paul Craig at Middleway. Yeah, interesting, Luke,

1973
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 3: because the one thing we took away from hanging out

1974
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 3: with him and doing the room service diaries is not

1975
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 3: only is he hilarious to talk to, but he's a competitor.

1976
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 3: There's like a fire in him that wants to like

1977
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 3: that almost stumbled into that, I mean really kind of

1978
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 3: stumbled into this sport at the elite level. He's got

1979
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,959
Speaker 3: such an interesting backstory. But I wonder if the competitor

1980
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 3: in him looks at the landscape, what he's accomplished already

1981
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 3: at two o five, what he hasn't accomplished, and says, no,

1982
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 3: I'll retool, I got one run here at this He's

1983
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 3: still a dangerous out if he can make this weight. Look,

1984
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 3: he could be interesting here with the size more on

1985
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 3: his level. I mean he's gotta he's gotta really double

1986
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 3: down on the sparring, I mean on the striking right

1987
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 3: correct to be a real player.

1988
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't think. I don't think it would

1989
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 2: like dramatically enhance his game, but it might give him

1990
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 2: some fresh matchups to get, you know, a decent win

1991
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 2: and then you get more relevant. Shine. You know there's something,

1992
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 2: there's way, there's there's ways to do it without like, hey,

1993
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 2: does it dramatically alter your fortunes? And I don't think

1994
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 2: it dramatically alders as fortunes, but could be useful career useful.

1995
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 2: By the way, apparently Danger Mouse is saying getting leathered

1996
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 2: means getting drunk getting leathered.

1997
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 3: Danger Mouse is back. He watches our show again.

1998
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 2: Apparently apparently it ran them off.

1999
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 3: Luke by not putting him in the Donk of the

2000
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 3: Year ballot, which.

2001
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, a great job with that. I'm glad you ran

2002
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:34,759
Speaker 2: off our most loyal listeners and viewers.

2003
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 3: You know, he blew off our UK show though, Luke,

2004
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 3: he told j Pikenny wanted nothing to do with it.

2005
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 3: I still got a lot of love for Danger mouse.

2006
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

2007
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 2: I do too. I do too. All right, let's see

2008
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 2: very quickly, Chris Wide I was gonna be very long ago,

2009
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 2: I should say, has provided a Chris Wideman update. He

2010
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 2: spoke to MMA Junkie quote, he's definitely fighting again. I'm

2011
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 2: gonna say that's one hundred percent. And in the gym,

2012
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 2: guys he's training with are telling me that he's an

2013
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 2: animal dropping people in the gym and that leg is

2014
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 2: stronger than it ever was. I just asked christ and

2015
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 2: he said he's kicking like a mule, which is insanity.

2016
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 2: He sounds great. He's still a major a problem in

2017
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 2: the room. He still does have it. He's just got

2018
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:10,959
Speaker 2: to go out there and do it in the octagon.

2019
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

2020
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 3: See fear, Luke. My fear is that he was already

2021
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 3: kind of a problem in the room of his career

2022
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:19,560
Speaker 3: before the leg injury. Right. I mean he's at the

2023
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 3: back end of it, right, I mean he suffered a

2024
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:24,679
Speaker 3: lot of defeats, some of them devastating, albeit against elite

2025
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 3: killers who are trying to vie for titles. If this

2026
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 3: is like, I just have to do this to end

2027
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 3: my career on my terms and prove that I can

2028
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:35,720
Speaker 3: come back. Then that's I guess one thing. I mean,

2029
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:37,639
Speaker 3: even Rashad Evans Luke, who we love and just sat

2030
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 3: down with on the RSD, had to scratch the itch

2031
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 3: one more time. But I don't know if I like

2032
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 3: this idea for Widman to try to really aim high

2033
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 3: and come back at this point and make a big run.

2034
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 3: I just if it is what it is and he's

2035
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 3: a warrior and that's what the warriors do, Luke, then

2036
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 3: that's what that's what fighters do. They fight.

2037
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I worry about the level of brain trauma he's absorbed,

2038
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,040
Speaker 2: not that like he's slur his words, but like, you

2039
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 2: know what it could lead to down the road. I

2040
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 2: will say, though BC, and he said, I mean the

2041
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:11,720
Speaker 2: guy has had eight million injuries, you know, like this,

2042
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 2: like you know what's kind of funny and like fighting,

2043
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 2: there's sort of ways to work around it in ways

2044
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 2: like for example, if someone had the injuries that Chris

2045
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 2: Widman had, but let's say he was a football player,

2046
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,839
Speaker 2: like American football player, you'd be out of the league,

2047
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 2: Like there wouldn't be a chance for redemption, right, Like

2048
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 2: these kinds of injuries would simply spell the end of

2049
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 2: your athletic career.

2050
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 3: You know, was it Alex Smith who had all those

2051
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 3: weird leg surgeries where?

2052
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 2: Yes? But yes, yes, except his was different in two ways.

2053
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 2: One his wasn't a clean break. His was a spiral fracture.

2054
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 2: Yeah right, so it twisted. And then the other one

2055
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 2: was the subsequent rehabilitative surgeries. Some of them were botched,

2056
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 2: so you had to get you know, like a couple

2057
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:57,639
Speaker 2: dozen of them basically to get back right and still

2058
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 2: looks like shit. So uh, he he still played after that.

2059
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 2: I remember that he still played a season after that.

2060
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, I give him a lot of the credit.

2061
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 3: But that's insane. Don't skip over this Anthony Joshua news Luke,

2062
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:08,600
Speaker 3: did you say that video over the weekend?

2063
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 2: Okay, here's why I skipped over it. But basically, Anthony

2064
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 2: Joshua has said hits confirmed. He's fighting Deontay Wilder in December.

2065
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 2: Number one. I've not seen any press releases, so until

2066
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 2: I see a press release, yeah right is number one.

2067
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:25,520
Speaker 2: Number two. Wilder gets arrested yesterday for illegal gun possession

2068
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:29,600
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles after someone pulled over him. It's like, dude, fighters,

2069
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 2: how much money has Deontay Wilder made in his career

2070
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 2: one hundred mili total.

2071
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:34,839
Speaker 3: A lot of money, Yeah.

2072
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 2: A lot of money. Right, dude could afford the world's

2073
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 2: highest level of security and not have a driver and

2074
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 2: not have to worry about any of this. What the

2075
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:44,599
Speaker 2: fuck are these guys doing toting around?

2076
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:45,800
Speaker 3: It's not can affect the fight.

2077
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 2: I mean no, it's not gonnaffect the fight. It's not

2078
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 2: gonna fact the fight. It means nothing for the fight.

2079
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 2: I'm just pointing out the only headlines I see about

2080
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,720
Speaker 2: Dantaey Wilder are about that. Tell me I'm missing something here,

2081
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 2: all right.

2082
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 3: They've both been in camp and it seems to be

2083
01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 3: angling toward this. Joshua was saying that didn't seem like

2084
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:02,719
Speaker 3: there's anything to not believe, Although I get your point

2085
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:04,600
Speaker 3: on let's wait for it to be officially announced, But

2086
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 3: I think Eddie Hearn was interviewed yesterday and and kind

2087
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 3: of gave the green light that that's the plan. And

2088
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 3: Eddie Hearn also said, and this is where the story,

2089
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 3: if you don't believe it gets a little wonky. Eddie

2090
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 3: says that idea that was thrown around that in December

2091
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 3: ish there could be two heavyweight title fights on one

2092
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 3: night on the same card in like Saudi Arabia, and

2093
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 3: it would be Wilder versus Joshua and the co main

2094
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 3: event and Fury versus Usik for all the belts in

2095
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 3: the main event. He said that Eddie Hearn said, that's

2096
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 3: not off the table, Luke, as much as we all

2097
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:37,719
Speaker 3: have doubts, And you know, Bob Ahram said, for years

2098
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 3: there was money hidden in the sand to make Pachiel

2099
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:44,680
Speaker 3: Khan in this Emddal East and it never happened. They

2100
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:46,799
Speaker 3: do have a lot of money there. They once paid

2101
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 3: Joshua seventy five million to come fight Ruiz there. I mean,

2102
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 3: if this happened on one night, these two fights that

2103
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 3: heavyweight boxing fans have wanted forever at different times, but

2104
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,599
Speaker 3: putting him together, and it's also like a final four

2105
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 3: to crown a real who's the best heavyweight of this era?

2106
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 3: If they end up fighting each other at the winners,

2107
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 3: I want, I mean, I want to believe, dude, right,

2108
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 3: come on, is there a chance. I mean, there's a

2109
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 3: lot of money over there, There's a stupid amount. There's

2110
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 3: a lot.

2111
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 2: You'll get one of them. You're not gonna get both.

2112
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 2: When when does boxing ever over deliver? I mean, Davids

2113
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 2: Garcia delivered one night, it delivered, you know, and you

2114
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,760
Speaker 2: might get another good night down the road. But like

2115
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 2: on one night, when does it just like give you

2116
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 2: extra shit? You know that hasn't happened in a long time.

2117
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 2: That has happened in a long time.

2118
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 3: All right, well there you go.

2119
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 2: H Okay. And then last but not least, uh Artim Bakytov,

2120
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 2: who was a good is a good kickboxer, is the

2121
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 2: last guy to beat Alex Padeda for Podata's final kickboxing fight.

2122
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:51,599
Speaker 2: He's gonna make his MMA debut. BC.

2123
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 3: Uh.

2124
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 2: With that in mind, my friend, it is time for

2125
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 2: our fan s ubs.

2126
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we give you an email address Morning Combat at

2127
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:02,919
Speaker 3: email dot com, where you can reach our great producer

2128
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 3: Mikey Mormol and send us your videos, your tight t shirts,

2129
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 3: pictures of your wife. You know, have us comment on

2130
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 3: your deadlift form, whatever weird shit you got. This is

2131
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:21,679
Speaker 3: your hour. Okay, it's called fans admissions. You've got male feures, Luke.

2132
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 3: One of those name is Charsis. I think that's a

2133
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:27,599
Speaker 3: male name, but you know, I'm down for whatever. Hi, Luke,

2134
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 3: and BC I went to my first live UFC event

2135
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 3: at UFC Kansas City. Luke, it's a female and of

2136
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 3: course had to wear my MK sweatshirt. Absolutely loved the

2137
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 3: show and all the content you put out, especially BC's

2138
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:45,839
Speaker 3: have you seen that shit? Thanks? It's Charsis Wow Luke.

2139
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 2: Right, wow, BC? You about to have a Bryce Mitchell moment. Yeah,

2140
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 2: I need.

2141
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 3: Your socks apparently, I mean, Luke shot out to Charsis,

2142
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 3: rockin the MK in public and represent Look. I know

2143
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 3: that there have been female listeners in the past, raised

2144
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 3: their hand and we've showed them out, but we need

2145
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 3: some merch before the most part. It's wives. It's Jen

2146
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 3: with Bill formerly in the r V. Right, it's Dawn

2147
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 3: with Jay. I don't know, I mean, do we really

2148
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 3: have young females seeking out the MK?

2149
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 2: Luke young? She said, well, she does seem young. I mean,

2150
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 2: it's probably a couple, but it's mostly just old dudes

2151
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,720
Speaker 2: like us. It's just old pieces of shit, you know.

2152
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:32,680
Speaker 3: All right, let's go over to Greg. Actually, this is

2153
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 3: punch drug Pete. Remember him, Remember you had the drink.

2154
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 2: Off with the worst beer drinker in America.

2155
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 3: Here's what he says. Check out the t sh I

2156
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 3: got MK playing live at mckibbons Irish Sports Bar here

2157
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 3: in Montreal just recently.

2158
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 2: I'm glad the people in attendance are there to see it.

2159
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 3: Just recently started bartending there and they gave me control

2160
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 3: of their TV feeds while I'm working. Hopefully you bring

2161
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:57,600
Speaker 3: the MK Live show to Montreal at some point in

2162
01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:02,240
Speaker 3: the future. Drinks on me, fellas, Sincerely, Punch Drunk Pete Luke.

2163
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 3: He's back and look at him doing his part by

2164
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 3: illegally fueling our streams onto there so the patrons can see.

2165
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 3: I love it.

2166
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 2: Please. The number one thing you guys can do for

2167
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 2: us to make us a bigger brand is commit crimes.

2168
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 2: Really is the number one thing.

2169
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:19,759
Speaker 3: So that's how they voted for us all these awards.

2170
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 3: Do you think punch Drunk Peat cleans up in Montreal

2171
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 3: at night on on St. Catherine Street? You saw the

2172
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 3: man in person?

2173
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 2: Maybe? I mean you're young enough and you know drunk

2174
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 2: enough you can do a lot, so.

2175
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 3: Yes you can. Yeah, he likes boxing through that guy, Greg.

2176
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 3: Punch Drunk Pete shout out. Let's go over to Mike,

2177
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 3: he says, Dear Luke, I was recently watching old content

2178
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 3: from some weeks ago. And at one point you began

2179
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:46,280
Speaker 3: shitting on people who keep snakes. Yeah, of course you

2180
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 3: think because they're weird. Well as someone who not only

2181
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 3: keeps snakes but breeds them for a living.

2182
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, how many jan sixers live in this fucking

2183
01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 2: guy's house on the lane?

2184
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 3: I naturally too great umbrage with this. As retaliation, here's

2185
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 3: a picture of me clipping my toenails in the airplane

2186
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:11,920
Speaker 3: bathroom that I took on my flight to Utah. Oh

2187
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:15,639
Speaker 3: and don't believe me about breeding snakes. Here's another picture

2188
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 3: of one of my ball pythons. She laid a clutch

2189
01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 3: of ten eggs last week. As for UBC, always remember

2190
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 3: that you're not the only one gas station that your

2191
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 3: only one gas station hot dog away from putting your

2192
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 3: liver in peril. That is sad but true. Sincerely, Mike.

2193
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I like how this guy's like, what you

2194
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 2: think I'm a dj in Well, you're right, look at

2195
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 2: me in the airplane.

2196
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 3: Here's my foot, Yeah, here's my toes for you. Uh no,

2197
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:46,720
Speaker 3: that was that was hilarious. But you know, would you like?

2198
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, maybe that's the guy who wants to

2199
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 3: lift with you in the front yard.

2200
01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 2: Look maybe that's I mean, listen, like Steve Irwin would

2201
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 2: probably be sized for eggs for a snake's breeding, and

2202
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:59,040
Speaker 2: I get that, but it's like something's gotta be a

2203
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 2: little bit off with you, Yeah, to do that.

2204
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:03,639
Speaker 3: And buy off. We mean, if he's not breeding snakes,

2205
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 3: he's at the renaissance fair clearly it looks yeah in costume. Yeah,

2206
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 3: all right, let's hear from Tony Hey, look at BC.

2207
01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:16,719
Speaker 3: I recently came across the image and felt it perfectly

2208
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 3: merged Luke's DMV diction and BC's feral raccoon lifestyle. I imagine

2209
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:25,560
Speaker 3: a seventy year old BC being wheeled into the er

2210
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:29,639
Speaker 3: for his sixth liver transplant, wearing this bad boy, barely

2211
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 3: conscious but still gripping a Colombian hot dog with the

2212
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 3: last of his strength. Can I take credit? Oh? I

2213
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 3: can't take credit for the T shirt or photo, but

2214
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 3: I had to spread the good word and be sure

2215
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 3: to cc RJ Dingleberry, Stay washed and best wishes from Vancouver.

2216
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:53,320
Speaker 3: It's Tony g aka Glitz rayel A Design aka hot

2217
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 3: Dog lets Don Yak Schumerda Wow, wow.

2218
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 2: Very fun. This is what I'm saying. Like the roast

2219
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:05,679
Speaker 2: culture on. This show has really taken on a new level.

2220
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:06,680
Speaker 2: But I'm here for it. I'm here.

2221
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:09,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tony g well done, right there, sir, welcome, Welcome

2222
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 3: to the well. Let's go over to Brennan, Luke and

2223
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:14,320
Speaker 3: b C on the road together.

2224
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:17,320
Speaker 2: Hey, you see, I think we should hang out together tonight.

2225
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 2: B See. I don't think about you at all. From

2226
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 2: mad Men, maid Men, whatever the show is, mad Men,

2227
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 2: mad Men?

2228
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Luke, like you would often say, I don't care

2229
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:31,759
Speaker 3: after hours whether you live or die. Just leave me alone,

2230
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Yeah?

2231
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 2: Hey, So next Friday, if we're in town, are we

2232
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:36,719
Speaker 2: gonna hang out or I'll hang.

2233
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:38,759
Speaker 3: Out with you? All right, I'll hang out with you, Okay,

2234
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 3: it'll be great. We'll go down to by the docks.

2235
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

2236
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2237
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this from History HD. Hey, Luke and BC

2238
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 3: love the show. Luke, Would you be able to survive

2239
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 3: a world tour with this group? All of you would

2240
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 3: live in the same tour bus and share one toilet,

2241
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 3: fifty shows for twenty grand per show? Would you do it?

2242
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god?

2243
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 3: So show people on tour with you.

2244
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 2: You have to do fish upper left hand corner. Would

2245
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:15,679
Speaker 2: Ben Shapiro, the world's most overrated pundit left or right.

2246
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 2: Top right would be Dan Snyder, the current owner of

2247
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:21,599
Speaker 2: the Commanders, although not for fucking long. He can get

2248
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 2: the fuck out of town now. I think the bottom

2249
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 2: left would be machine Gun Kelly, who you know, just

2250
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 2: he got beat up so bad by Eminem in that

2251
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 2: rat battle. He turned into a fucking pop star, which

2252
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 2: is hilarious. Yeah, yeah, he did well, Connor went after

2253
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 2: him or whatever. And then bottom right would be I

2254
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,680
Speaker 2: actually don't hate them. I just you know, they're kind

2255
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 2: of goofy, but the insane clown posse man.

2256
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 3: You're like, hey, Shaggy Jay, if you're listening, I actually

2257
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:51,720
Speaker 3: kind of like you bro, all right or what?

2258
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 2: And honestly would get Honestly, if everyone in this picture,

2259
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 2: I would get along with ICP the best.

2260
01:46:57,360 --> 01:46:59,679
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, did you remember them on the Stern Show

2261
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 3: like twenty years ago? It was awesome? Right, they were great.

2262
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 2: I don't know if I remember that or not. But magnets,

2263
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 2: how do they work?

2264
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:11,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah? Wow? Okay, So, Luke, could you survive a

2265
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 3: world tour fifty shows? Tony Grandpa? Okay, I'd like to

2266
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,360
Speaker 3: see you share the commode with ICP dude, a lot

2267
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 3: of faygo going down there, Luke, a lot of for

2268
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 3: sure let's go. Hey, it's time for j pacat Luke.

2269
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 3: Good day, MK Nation Superfan JP back with a take

2270
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:31,640
Speaker 3: two version of my fan submotivational video that was impacted

2271
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 3: by the tech issues last week. Love you guys, keep

2272
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:37,200
Speaker 3: up the amazing multi time award winning show. So Luke,

2273
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:39,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna read the original email that JP set in

2274
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 3: to set up the video that I failed to do

2275
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:45,040
Speaker 3: last week. Here we go, Good day BC, Luke Tech

2276
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:47,600
Speaker 3: issues aside, massive shout out to all the donks on

2277
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 3: fan subs last week. It was great to see some

2278
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:53,639
Speaker 3: new folks contributing. Alan w was killing it as always,

2279
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 3: the appy redemption teaser Baller, Boss Lady and of course

2280
01:47:58,000 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 3: my Purp walk by a van down by the river.

2281
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:01,720
Speaker 3: But enough of the fun and games. We would need

2282
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:04,519
Speaker 3: to get down to business and call out the elephant

2283
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 3: in the room or should I say mouse in the

2284
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:11,800
Speaker 3: room from one dog to another, Danger Mouse. It's time

2285
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:15,479
Speaker 3: to return to fan Subs. Just like the UFC, it's

2286
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 3: better when Connor is in it. Same with MK and

2287
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 3: Danger Mouse and he also so this is the promo

2288
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 3: poster for the video that we're about to show a

2289
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:25,240
Speaker 3: loose all.

2290
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 2: Right, Hey take two, huh Take two? There he is.

2291
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing. We're using the exact same software

2292
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 2: and everything we were using before. It didn't work before,

2293
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:40,840
Speaker 2: So this is the second attempt at having a show.

2294
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 2: Mo is the hell?

2295
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:44,719
Speaker 3: Look are There are some whispers online that the whatever

2296
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 3: we had at some point with fan subs that it's

2297
01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 3: over now. Either people are out of ideas, Luke, or

2298
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 3: the people that had good ideas that really loved our

2299
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 3: show no longer love our show as much.

2300
01:48:56,360 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 2: Well Danger Mouse really losing him was as a get

2301
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 2: their contributor to this. It hurt us big.

2302
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 3: Did we ruin all these great people? I mean, one

2303
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 3: day where we find j Piquett living in a van

2304
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:13,560
Speaker 3: down by the river, Luke because of us? Or is

2305
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:14,639
Speaker 3: that inevitable anyway?

2306
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 2: No, because his wife looks like a baller. But but

2307
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:23,760
Speaker 2: he's definitely he's definitely got some you know you're gonna

2308
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:25,720
Speaker 2: see You're gonna see him purp walk before too long.

2309
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:30,040
Speaker 3: I think I'm kind of hoping for an appy redemption story,

2310
01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 3: like an arc you know, where he just becomes like

2311
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 3: a credit to his society, like he stops taking from

2312
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 3: the society by what going to jail and he starts giving. Luke, well,

2313
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:41,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure he'd be willing to give to this this

2314
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:41,960
Speaker 3: dude had.

2315
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 2: This dude in public had underwear on the outside of

2316
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 2: his pants the first time he met us.

2317
01:49:45,800 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 3: I mean, uh, we picked a good day to run

2318
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:14,599
Speaker 3: that because Danger Mouse is back. Do you have anything

2319
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:15,680
Speaker 3: to say to that bloke.

2320
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 2: Danger Mouse? You know we need you come home morning

2321
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:21,799
Speaker 2: combat at gmail dot com.

2322
01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:24,479
Speaker 3: Is there a chance Danger Mouse woke up this morning

2323
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 3: with japiquet under his bed sheets?

2324
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:31,559
Speaker 2: Up, It's not zero, It's not zero.

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Speaker 3: If anyone can find Danger Mouse, it is JP shout

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Speaker 3: out there in Nova Scotia. Let's go to Allen w

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01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:40,880
Speaker 3: As said in episode four thirty three, the American democracy

2328
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 3: is in a sad state with the upcoming geriatric battle

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01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:46,599
Speaker 3: for the presidency. This is Alan w talking. By the way,

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01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 3: we need a younger contender oozing with machismo. We need

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01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 3: the American alpha f Yeah, BC is coming on to

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01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 3: save the motherfucking day. Luke, how do you like this

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01:50:58,240 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 3: as a campaign post?

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01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:08,720
Speaker 2: And drinking quote unquote that milk. Also the machete in

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01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:10,719
Speaker 2: the right hand is just an extra little bonus.

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01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, Len w on top of his game as.

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01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 2: Like, what's your platform, He's like, big ass titties.

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01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know yeah, oh wow. Well it's an

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01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:23,800
Speaker 3: all star game today and the fan sub Luke, we

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01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 3: got happy here. Okay, he said, I thought I would

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01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:29,639
Speaker 3: start my Redemption tour. Remember he threatened this last week

2342
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:31,400
Speaker 3: that he was coming on you. Remember that his.

2343
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:33,519
Speaker 2: Are so fucking long. Can you just get through them?

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01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:35,719
Speaker 3: He says, I want to start my tour by showing

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01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:38,439
Speaker 3: that I know you two washed up losers better than

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01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:41,760
Speaker 3: any other donk except maybe JP, who has converted his

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01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:44,840
Speaker 3: van by the River into an MK shrine worthy of

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01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 3: the Davidian cult. In video one, look at how soft

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01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:51,720
Speaker 3: and gentle Luke looked at the London show. I confidently

2350
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:54,879
Speaker 3: predict that he will soon grow tired of Margarita's combat

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01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 3: sports and abortion rock and totally change his lifestyle with

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01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:01,439
Speaker 3: the help of some MK sponsors. Armed with only his

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01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,680
Speaker 3: favorite healthy green drink, he will finish his days on

2354
01:52:04,720 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 3: a plot of land in Scotland, presenting a folk song

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01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:08,639
Speaker 3: Let's go to this video.

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01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 2: It looks like Ryan was choosing to stay down because

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01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 2: he simply didn't want it anymore. There might be something

2358
01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:23,400
Speaker 2: to that, but BC, you got to give Ryan some credit.

2359
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 2: Pardon me here, favorite fout him, fut fulking folksingers.

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01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:44,840
Speaker 3: That was deep in UK humor. Luke h Appy goes

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01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:47,680
Speaker 3: on to say, as for BC, I was inspired by

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01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:50,720
Speaker 3: his amazing interview with Mike Perry where he overtly took

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01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 3: the piss out of him for twenty five minutes with

2364
01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:55,880
Speaker 3: the most sarcastic smile and podcast history.

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01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 2: BC.

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01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:58,600
Speaker 3: We remember what happened the last time you tried to

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01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:01,000
Speaker 3: get fresh with the Platinum one an interview, and I

2368
01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:04,480
Speaker 3: know what you are. We're really thinking behind that tough exterior,

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01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 3: let's go to this.

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01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:10,639
Speaker 5: Oh man, it excited me as well. Facing a former

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01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 5: world champion up a weight class. I really get to

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01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 5: test my skills in boxing and my speed and you know,

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01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 5: and it's bare knuckle.

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01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:22,720
Speaker 2: Like you said, you know, it's so difficult look to

2375
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:26,799
Speaker 2: look smug at this point. Why are you smiling?

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01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:30,080
Speaker 3: Why are you smarking? Why are you smarking? Go make

2377
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 3: me come across this counter.

2378
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what did you smark at me?

2379
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 3: Did you smart because you think I'm a jackass?

2380
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 2: Did you smart because you don't have any kind of

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01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:38,840
Speaker 2: respect for any kind.

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01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 3: Of a thony in your with much love and dodgy

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01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:50,719
Speaker 3: testosterone pills. It's happy. There you go, Luke. I actually

2384
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 3: was smiling because I love Mike Mike Perry, you know

2385
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 3: what I mean. I cheer for his kind of crazy.

2386
01:53:57,320 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 3: I see the real man in there, Luke. That's fighting.

2387
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:03,000
Speaker 2: I can confirm that that's actually really true, really true.

2388
01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:05,920
Speaker 3: You know that's Ocean's daddy at the end of the day, Okay,

2389
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 3: And I want that guy to succeed more than I

2390
01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 3: want to trap him into questions about his ex wife

2391
01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:12,680
Speaker 3: that you know, hell threatened to kill me for it,

2392
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:13,439
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

2393
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's smart. That's a wise editorial choice.

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01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:19,800
Speaker 3: We've got one more, and it's from a fellow called

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01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:23,160
Speaker 3: average Joe Art. We know this guy, Luke, he's the

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01:54:23,200 --> 01:54:24,719
Speaker 3: title belt guy. That guy's great.

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01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he says.

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01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 3: I told you guys, I wouldn't disappear on you, and

2399
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 3: I haven't. In doing my part to make fan subs

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01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:34,000
Speaker 3: great again, I submit a few fun ideas from across

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01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 3: the MK board for the donk g I Joe shirt.

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01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:39,880
Speaker 3: It just made sense to me. Can we see this.

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01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good dumble. They tried to do one

2404
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 2: like this in the first round of our own merch

2405
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:51,800
Speaker 2: and it didn't look cool. By the way, you see,

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01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 2: it's got like a bit of DC flag in it.

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01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:54,839
Speaker 2: It's got the red and white with the three stars.

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01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really really well done their Average Joe, he

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01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:01,360
Speaker 3: says for the Mario brothers, Luke, I apologize for not

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01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 3: including the EGA tat. I couldn't find images of your

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01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 3: specific tattoo that were good enough for me to reference

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01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 3: for an illustration. I did, however, manage to work in

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01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 3: BC's off white sweatsuit and that hat that I wish

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01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 3: he would burn immediately. The two of you may or

2415
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 3: may not have bellies filled with gummies, hence your ability

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01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 3: to fly, but we'll have that up to interpretation.

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01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 2: Dude, that is beyond amazing.

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01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 3: Are you.

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01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 2: Say something about this? Do you not like it? Dude?

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01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 3: That's that's as good as anything we've ever put on

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01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:39,760
Speaker 3: our merch website. That is fantastic. And by the way, Luke, okay,

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01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 3: before we get to the third one here from Average Joe,

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01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:46,320
Speaker 3: I hope we see RJ again.

2424
01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 2: I hope there's a future we spoke to him over

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01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 2: over the phone or over text, and you know, I'm

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01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm I'm reasonably confident we'll stay in touch.

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01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:00,920
Speaker 3: At least or we will just the ideas out of

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01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 3: his brain stem. Luke okay, because he gets us, he

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01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:05,800
Speaker 3: listens to the show, he knows us finally from Average

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01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 3: Joe Art. While all MK fans want to see the

2431
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 3: official title belt actually made, it doesn't mean you still

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01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 3: can't wear it. In the meantime, when you guys are

2433
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:18,000
Speaker 3: ready to make m K merch great again, you know

2434
01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:18,720
Speaker 3: where to come.

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01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 2: Wow, see U M see you.

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01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:26,720
Speaker 3: M Oh my god, that's so dude. That's so badass shirt.

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01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:27,640
Speaker 3: Holy ship.

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01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 2: Right dude, this is I mean, I don't know what

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01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 2: to say. Uh, we got we gotta we gotta make

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01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 2: we gotta make these reel like, we got to make

2441
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:39,320
Speaker 2: these reel. These are too good. This one in the

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01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:41,160
Speaker 2: Mario I mean all of them were good, but this

2443
01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:44,280
Speaker 2: one in the Mario Brothers one like got me out

2444
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 2: of my chair. Yeah.

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01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 3: Get Let's get average Joe R on the on the line.

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01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:49,959
Speaker 3: In terms of making some merder.

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01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:51,480
Speaker 2: Well, listen, we could probably work out some deal where

2448
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:53,280
Speaker 2: we cut him in on the rev. However, much it

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01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:54,920
Speaker 2: is and then we just call it a day.

2450
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 3: You know who was the guy who came up with

2451
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 3: the idea for the Morning Hub that we that we

2452
01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:01,160
Speaker 3: that aared it with us and we were like, oh,

2453
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 3: we're gonna make that into a shirt Danger Mouse. Yes,

2454
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 3: remember the name, Wow Dan.

2455
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:07,320
Speaker 2: I think we just saw we just stole from him.

2456
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:07,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if we did.

2457
01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 3: God who he was and I was back and I

2458
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 3: love that guy.

2459
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 4: Wow.

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01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 3: Thank you all.

2461
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:15,040
Speaker 2: That was a great set of fans subs. Really well done.

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01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:17,280
Speaker 3: Thank you folks. We don't need to keep you any

2463
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 3: longer here two hours shoved right down your throat, Luke,

2464
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 3: please take us out of here.

2465
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 2: All right. So reminder two pieces of content you can

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01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 2: get right now. In addition to this show, you can

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01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 2: get the Henry so Hudo resume review. That's a YouTube

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01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 2: dot com slash Morning Combat. Our producer tells us that's

2469
01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 2: going to be on the podcast platforms tomorrow if you

2470
01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:36,280
Speaker 2: want to get the audio version of that. But of

2471
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 2: course our editors did a great job. Our editor Mikey

2472
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:41,520
Speaker 2: did a great job in making it more multimedia friendly,

2473
01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:44,240
Speaker 2: so give that a look. And then of course beyond that,

2474
01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 2: we sat down with Rashad Evans. Our RSD with Rashad

2475
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:49,160
Speaker 2: Evans is up. It's the best one I think we've

2476
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 2: ever done by a country mile. Those are all ready

2477
01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 2: to go right now. My last reminder, Morning Combat at

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01:57:55,760 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 2: gmail dot com is the place to go if you

2479
01:57:57,960 --> 01:58:00,200
Speaker 2: want showtime Showtime dot com three to day for your

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01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:01,680
Speaker 2: trophy lug. You can keep it. If not, you can

2481
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 2: bounce and big thanks to Mikey Morms on the ones

2482
01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:07,480
Speaker 2: and twos holding us down here today. We're back on Friday.

2483
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:09,400
Speaker 2: We'll get you ready for one and everything else we'll

2484
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:12,440
Speaker 2: do okay, bet and you can vote on our draft

2485
01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:14,080
Speaker 2: cards a week late, but you can do them I

2486
01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 2: think starting today or tomorrow. So be on the lookout

2487
01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 2: for Morning Combat on Twitter and social media. Yeah all

2488
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 2: right for Brian Campbell, who's the King of Connecticut. I

2489
01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:25,720
Speaker 2: am Luke Thomas. Thanks to everyone who watched back on Friday,

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01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:28,720
Speaker 2: and until then, may all of your gains be loyal