WEBVTT - #15 Float Like a Butterfly, Bumble Like a Bee

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<v Speaker 1>Hell, I suck a good day with the Nungler and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of unique ways to start teenth show.

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<v Speaker 1>You should know how to say hi. Show my old

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<v Speaker 1>lucky number. That was my lucky number in high school

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<v Speaker 1>for at least a couple of months because Carmel Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>were number fifteen. You know, I was a big Nuggets

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<v Speaker 1>fan back in the day. Not anymore, but thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for tuning in. UM joined in studio again by you

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<v Speaker 1>know him, you love him Marking Easton Special guests say

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<v Speaker 1>Hi more Hello, Hi, Hey, Hi, UM. Special guests in

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<v Speaker 1>studio today to a good friend of mine from high

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<v Speaker 1>school who lives here in Los Angeles and we are

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<v Speaker 1>rekindling our friendship. So he's joining us in studio. Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to say hi Hello? All right, cool, happy

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<v Speaker 1>to be a hair dam things. Hey, Happy to have you. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have a good episode today. We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>responding to a few more emails as we typically do.

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<v Speaker 1>Love those emails because you know, it really just I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it shows to me that people are even listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this thing, because yeah, that's that just makes me

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<v Speaker 1>feel good and great stories and situations and you need

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<v Speaker 1>help and they turn to you, they say help Dean.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for some reason, the fact that people confide

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<v Speaker 1>in me for dating advice still blows my mind. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>like even get like d ms or tweets at me

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<v Speaker 1>that are saying like, hey, Deane, I need dating advice,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just sitting to myself, why are you asking

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<v Speaker 1>me for dating advice? But you know, it's true that

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<v Speaker 1>some people that have that give great advice have trouble

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<v Speaker 1>following themselves. I think it's great do as I say, Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>And and I will say that I can see the

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<v Speaker 1>benefit of getting a twenty six year olds perspective on

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<v Speaker 1>the dating pool in today's America, Cause a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these girls, I don't think, have that outlet to have

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<v Speaker 1>an unbiased opinion from a twenty six year old male

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of tell them maybe what's going on and

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on well and what's not going on well.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have a theme this week? Last week we

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<v Speaker 1>had breakups. This week's theme is dating apps, very common situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get to that, let's see what's in the news. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Dean's in the news. Wow, look at that Dean Ungler.

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<v Speaker 1>It is all over the news. Now, this is funny

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<v Speaker 1>because Dean gets really uncomfortable in this situation because there

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<v Speaker 1>are certain things he can say and certain things he

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<v Speaker 1>can't say. Most of the things I can't say, So well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can just say this, then I could just I

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<v Speaker 1>found an article on us weekly dot com that says

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<v Speaker 1>the bachelorettes Dean Ungler is dating bachelor lum Leslie Murphy

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<v Speaker 1>and that they were hanging out at the Sundance Film

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<v Speaker 1>Festival in Parks City of Utah on Friday night. They

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<v Speaker 1>were holding hands, walking through a party of looking very

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<v Speaker 1>much like a couple talking only to each other. This

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<v Speaker 1>was on e This was on US Weekly. This was

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place. I found another article, seven facts

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<v Speaker 1>you need to know about Dean Unglard's new girlfriend Leslie Murphy.

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<v Speaker 1>So can you confirm you are dating someone? What I

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<v Speaker 1>can say is, I was at Sundance this past Weekend's great,

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<v Speaker 1>great time. Park city is beautiful. Um, they got some snow,

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<v Speaker 1>so I got a snowboard a little bit. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Leslie Murphy was there too. Uh, there's pictures

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<v Speaker 1>over there, so I think we can confirm that she

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<v Speaker 1>was there. Yeah, we can confirm that she was physically

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<v Speaker 1>present at sundance. Um, we can confirm that you were there.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we confirm that you're in a relationship with someone? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't really confirm anything. And are you being coy

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<v Speaker 1>or are you just obeying the rules that were laid

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<v Speaker 1>down by ABC in which you can't talk about anything

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<v Speaker 1>that may or may not happen in Winter Games. What

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<v Speaker 1>I can confirm is that Winter Games is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be awesome. And I think that you as a listener,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mark and Easton and Taylor, she all tune into

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<v Speaker 1>watch and then maybe, you know, in a month or

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<v Speaker 1>so from now, I can start to confirm some things. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're not just being coy, you you're I know

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<v Speaker 1>that when you do these shows you have to sign

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<v Speaker 1>certain agreements. My life is currently owned by ABC right now,

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<v Speaker 1>right okay, So once that's all in the past, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to hear more about this or we won't

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<v Speaker 1>hear more about it, depending I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 1>current situation. I mean, I know what the current situation is,

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<v Speaker 1>but you guys not knowing on the outside, doesn't you know? Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you were there, are you not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>like walk next to someone or hold hands with someone,

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<v Speaker 1>Like hanging out with holding hands seems a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a bigger stuffs friends, do you Yeah? We held

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<v Speaker 1>hands in the car? Sure enough? Yeah, Mark, you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of nailed on the head. This makes me uncomfortable, just

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<v Speaker 1>because just because I don't want to overstep my boundaries.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want But I'll tell you what. I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. I think that's the most importance all that matters.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we If we're going to change the title of

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<v Speaker 1>this show would have happened soon. Help I suck it? Dating? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>transition to help I suck it? Relationships? Well, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Well the season two rebranding something else. I thought we

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<v Speaker 1>should talk about. Tanya, who's going to come in here

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<v Speaker 1>in a minute, is meeting with a matchmaker next week, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>professional matchments. Before she could do that, she was asked

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<v Speaker 1>to bring a list of things she needs to see

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<v Speaker 1>in a man that she wants to date. For her,

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<v Speaker 1>it was faith, it was family. Uh, it was five

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<v Speaker 1>four or above because she's five four, so she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want anybody shorter than her. I would say population. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>she had this list, so I was gonna ask you

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of things that are on your list that

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<v Speaker 1>you would like to see in a woman, as apparently

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<v Speaker 1>still single dean who's still trying to find a partner,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the kinds of things you're looking for in

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<v Speaker 1>a woman? Uh? Okay, thinking from single Dean's perspective, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how to handle this. All right, Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess what I can say before jumping into that is

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm not single, because I think it is ousted

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<v Speaker 1>via E News. I just read it. I'm not single. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Well we'll just say that. Okay, but as single dean

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<v Speaker 1>putting myself in those shoes, you know, rewound two months,

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<v Speaker 1>three months however long ago that I wasn't single since

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<v Speaker 1>the last time I've spent so long I can't even remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Um are we talking about like nonality traits? Physical traits

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<v Speaker 1>would be anything. Here's an example of of somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>sent one in This is the perfect man list. She

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<v Speaker 1>keeps it on her in her notes app on her phone. Tall, funny,

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<v Speaker 1>intelligent but not arrogant, athletic, dog lover, good friends, cute,

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<v Speaker 1>but so there's physical as well. Family guy I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 1>not the show, but he's actually the family guy, not

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<v Speaker 1>an only child, like that's pretty specific. Enjoys drinking but

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get angry when he drinks. I think she may

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<v Speaker 1>be coming off a bad relationship. This is a This

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<v Speaker 1>is a woman who sent in her lift for Tanya

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<v Speaker 1>to so like she can compare and contrast. Uh So,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know I say who it is, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a listener, very giving, enjoys helping others, has future goals,

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<v Speaker 1>is very secure with who he is, is available, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's respectful of others. So it's a wide range of

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<v Speaker 1>personality traits, physical traits, everything that was So you're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>your listen to be shorter than that. I mean, off

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<v Speaker 1>the top of my head, I can come up with

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<v Speaker 1>a couple. I love someone that has a personality. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's actually I just realized this not too

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<v Speaker 1>long ago, that um, a personality is it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rare to even come by someone that just is, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, unique in their own way. You know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people just kind of conform to what

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<v Speaker 1>society tells them to do, and it's fine. It gets

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<v Speaker 1>them what they needed to get to in life, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>they're happy, etcetera. Etcetera. But like a personality where someone

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<v Speaker 1>is um, you know, like vibrant and personable and can

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<v Speaker 1>create conversation out of thin air. Like that's pretty rare

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<v Speaker 1>to come by these days, and I think that that

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<v Speaker 1>really is important to me. Um, someone that is decisive.

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<v Speaker 1>I like someone that can make decisions. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that comes from me not liking to make decisions. So

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<v Speaker 1>if someone can make decisions for me, um, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty easy going guy and so it doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>take a lot to kind of like swade my interest

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<v Speaker 1>to be into something. So someone's like, let's go do this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, yeah, a percent, let's go do that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's important to me. I think physically speaking, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have much of a type or like there's

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<v Speaker 1>no real barrier to entry physically speaking. Right, you might

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<v Speaker 1>prefer a hair color over another, but that's not a

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<v Speaker 1>deal wreaker. But I think I even prefer a hair color.

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<v Speaker 1>I've really noticed this might be over sharing. I've really

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that. Actually I'm not gonna say that, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>think okay, I'm a big snuggler, right, and so, like

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<v Speaker 1>physical touch is my number one love language, and that

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<v Speaker 1>really blows down to like like when I'm dating someone

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<v Speaker 1>and when we're like sharing a bed together at night,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to kind of like wrap myself up with

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<v Speaker 1>them as like a pretzel. And what I've weirdly noticed

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<v Speaker 1>is that blondes, when their skin on skin contact of

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<v Speaker 1>just like snuggling, there's more sweat. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a genetic thing, blonde sweat more. Just yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've noticed this, and it's like it's not it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like a profuse, like like it's We're not like sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in a swamp or anything like that, but it's just like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it kind of gets sweaty. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if we have any natural blonds around here, Erica,

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<v Speaker 1>are you a natural blonde? Am I a natural blonde? Um? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but not this bond. Do you sweat a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>than like a brunette would? Maybe? Do you do? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like judge my sweat levels with burnettes, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>all something we do. I sorry to compare to others

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<v Speaker 1>how much you? But do you sweat a lot? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>I could state because I'm married to a natural blonde

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<v Speaker 1>and she does not sweat anymore than she actually doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>sweat at all, I've noticed. Okay, that could just be

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<v Speaker 1>what I induce in her. I just don't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I could just need to be put in more work.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's an interesting I don't know, it's an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>conclusion to draw or just be like me and don't

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<v Speaker 1>snuggle at all and just see I have. And so

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<v Speaker 1>my thing is, I'm not a sweat at all. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't sweat at all. Very very rarely will I sweat.

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<v Speaker 1>And so maybe that makes me hyper aware of the

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<v Speaker 1>sweat that's around me at certain times. Does it gross

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<v Speaker 1>you out or it's just an observation, it's just it.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes it. It leads to uncomfortable nous or uncomfortability,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes like snuggling harder and sleeping a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more difficult too. And again I'm just talking out of

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<v Speaker 1>my ass. Yeah, necessarily exactly, and data backed by any means.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be looking this up and see if there's

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<v Speaker 1>any to this from my own personal experience. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what I've noticed. Um here comes Tanya, Tanya,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to dwell on this list. We have

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<v Speaker 1>one more person that we found, so we could are

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<v Speaker 1>you blond naturally, yes, but not this blond. That's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what Erica said. Do you sweat a lot? Okay, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there is something to this. Dean has decided that blonds

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<v Speaker 1>that he's been with sweat more than non blonds that

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<v Speaker 1>he's been with. Interesting, Yeah, I sweat a lot. Um Again,

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<v Speaker 1>back to the original points. I don't say you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be exactly exactly. That's not the case whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>I've just noticed in my experience with and and me

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<v Speaker 1>like knowing what I like in terms of the physical

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<v Speaker 1>affection that I require, it's harder to not go with

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<v Speaker 1>a blonde for that reason. It's weird. I know it's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me be the first to say it's weird. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't just like perst fire when I'm standing around, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think was I was just talking to Mark and

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<v Speaker 1>Easton about this. It's like when they're skin to skin contact,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you're spooning or something like that, it creates

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<v Speaker 1>like a like a sweat pocket. And it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like when you like sit with like no shirt on

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<v Speaker 1>and a leather chair or something like that, and like

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<v Speaker 1>you get up and the leather chair do you ever

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<v Speaker 1>have to be a little spoon. Oh my god, all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Would that help with the sweat equation or no?

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<v Speaker 1>Well then it's just my back hast sweat on it

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<v Speaker 1>instead of my stomach having I'm just trying the problem solved,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I think sweat compatibility is very important in

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<v Speaker 1>a successful relationship. Eastern clearly has it. He just said

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<v Speaker 1>that him and his wife don't sweat when they're snuggling. No, now,

0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:36.120
<v Speaker 1>we process energy differently. She always says it, and says sweating.

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<v Speaker 1>She shoots sugarcubes out her belly button. Wait, what where

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<v Speaker 1>does that come from? Wise? Sugarcubes? How do the belly button?

0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:50.480
<v Speaker 1>That's ah, that's just what she explains. It is very cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't sweat that much either. I do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>from under the arms. But am also not a blond,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know what you're looking for. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>the one on trial here. People call me a blond

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<v Speaker 1>more frequently they should. I don't think. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why people are like, are you blond or burnette?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, I'm definitely burnette. Well, because your your

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<v Speaker 1>hair is like, um, I think it's kind of shiny. Well,

0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's a light brown, which is considered like

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<v Speaker 1>dirty blonde. Well here's the thing. I sweat like a

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<v Speaker 1>like a brown haired person, which means not very much

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<v Speaker 1>at all. But some people still mistake me as a blonde.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, no, you can stumble with me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I promise I won't spit that much. This conversation got

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<v Speaker 1>real fast. Um what else? What other? Uh? We were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about your lift? Tan? Yeah? Yeah for the matchmaker

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<v Speaker 1>until we're asking Dean what's on his list? Yeah? So

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<v Speaker 1>far are you hasn't had much personality decisiveness? Yes, he

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<v Speaker 1>likes a unique personality, a person like who knows who

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<v Speaker 1>they are and is not afraid to be that right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. I think again, I'm very easy going to

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<v Speaker 1>where I don't need someone to be of a certain

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<v Speaker 1>faith or of a certain aged career, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I just, you know, as long as you can mesh

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<v Speaker 1>well with someone, I think that's the most important thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't care. Would you date a twenty year old

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<v Speaker 1>if it felt right? Would you date a forty year

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<v Speaker 1>old if it felt right? I don't think that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like, I don't I wouldn't judge someone for their age.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. I don't know what's on your list

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<v Speaker 1>an you faith family, job, Um, those are like my

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<v Speaker 1>main So would you date someone that doesn't confine into

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<v Speaker 1>the ideal faith that you need them to have had

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<v Speaker 1>a long chat about this, because because you hear that often,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's a question you hear a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people are like, I require I really want someone that's

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<v Speaker 1>very uh devout in the whatever they followed. Ideally, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be nice if he was the same faith as me. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a deal breaker. I just want someone that

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<v Speaker 1>has faith. A lot of people now say like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very spiritual, A lot of that and that religious, but

0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm spiritual. I never go to church, but I'm spiritually. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's down to pray with me, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>kind of church with me. So are all good things.

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<v Speaker 1>So what if it's someone that's that doesn't have this

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<v Speaker 1>incredible faith but is open minded enough to at least

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<v Speaker 1>give it a shot with you, I'd be down with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you be almost more down for that someone that's

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<v Speaker 1>willing to compromise too. I want to be more of

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<v Speaker 1>the person that you want them to be through that avenue.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that makes sense. Yeah, like like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need to dive into it too much. But

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. Okay, what else is? What else is

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<v Speaker 1>on my list? Let's think about that for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. There's no height requirement. I would be

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<v Speaker 1>hard to date someone's taller than me, but I don't

0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:30.800
<v Speaker 1>think I've ever met a girl it's taller. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>no body requirements full chested, flat chested. You don't care, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I had the same discussion with Mark, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was trying to get me to pinpoint dump and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, physical really doesn't matter so much to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Attraction correct, and you're attracted to certain kinds more than others,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily, Okay, yeah, And I think it's a when

0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.080
<v Speaker 1>you see it sort of thing. And I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think we talked about this in like episode three, very

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<v Speaker 1>early on. I'm not very like, I'm not very sexually

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<v Speaker 1>in person, so it's not like physical. I guess presence

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<v Speaker 1>really doesn't mean much to me because sex is the

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<v Speaker 1>driving factor of any relationship. Figures in the physical touches

0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.760
<v Speaker 1>high is your number one love language. And yet you

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like you're a sexual, Well I don't. I

0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:17.080
<v Speaker 1>think physical touching sex are different, very different in my eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of why before I even know what

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<v Speaker 1>love languages, where I was so hesitant to tell people

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<v Speaker 1>that love or that physical touch was my favorite thing

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<v Speaker 1>because people I automatically associate that with like sex and

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<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff too. Um, But that's not

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<v Speaker 1>the case at all in my opinion. Like for me, um,

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<v Speaker 1>fit was fit is on my list too. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need someone that's like, has a six pack and like

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<v Speaker 1>crazy muscles. It's not fit. It's like enjoys having a

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<v Speaker 1>fitness lifestyle because I like to work out and I

0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:47.520
<v Speaker 1>like to you know, do active things, and I live lifestyle,

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<v Speaker 1>especially lately, you live a very Yeah, So I want

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<v Speaker 1>a partner that you know has that same kind of lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>I think another one for mine is adventurousness. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>word someone that's venturous. I think that's important, someone that

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<v Speaker 1>likes to explore, to would like to travel somewhere on

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<v Speaker 1>a description of somebody if someone's like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>traveling all the time going on in a cool places, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and wanted to share those experiences with me because I

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<v Speaker 1>like to travel. I like I'm curious. I think curiosity

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<v Speaker 1>is very important, and you know what it's important to

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<v Speaker 1>know what you want, so you're a step ahead Dean. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. I don't know what I want. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what i want, but I'm still learning a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about But what else I want, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Taylor, you've known Dean for a long time. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>were you close in high school? Really best friends? You

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<v Speaker 1>spent like, oh god, like six days a week in

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<v Speaker 1>my house probably, you guys know. I mean my high

0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:47.920
<v Speaker 1>school experience fame familiar. Why speaking was a little bit rough.

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<v Speaker 1>So I spent a lot of time at Taylor. So

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<v Speaker 1>my house was on the same road as the high school.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of people have just come by and

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<v Speaker 1>all my food and leave, and Dean was one the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that would stay. There's so many milestones in Indian life,

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<v Speaker 1>and many of them tragic. And I asked about Hunter.

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<v Speaker 1>You weren't in the room. But I asked Hill if

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<v Speaker 1>he knew Hunter. He said he didn't. He came after,

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<v Speaker 1>came right after, I think like a year after, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even like in seventh grade, eighth grade, eighth grade,

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<v Speaker 1>when he was losing his mom. You were you were

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<v Speaker 1>there for that and yeah he was and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to lean on during a lot of that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I remember her, and you know I met

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<v Speaker 1>her multiple time. It was it was lots of friends time.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, when I lean on in those moments

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<v Speaker 1>where my friends and he was, I mean, he was

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<v Speaker 1>constant in my life at that time, which was great. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what's funny is we both had a crush on the

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<v Speaker 1>same girl for a large part of high school. God. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why I can't pronounce a certain word.

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<v Speaker 1>What's even funnier is she was my very first guest

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<v Speaker 1>on this podcast. Yeah, I remember someone told me about that.

0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, yeah, I remember that. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was interesting. Wait what word can you not pronounce?

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<v Speaker 1>I missed that? Everyone everyone knows name is okay to

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<v Speaker 1>say that name? Caramel? People say Caramel? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>remember we had Carmel, And I remember she's been in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship now for like seven years or something like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't she live on like a lake or something? Did

0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.200
<v Speaker 1>she date both of you? Oh no, no, I never

0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:11.199
<v Speaker 1>love triangle, never never was, but she was never got there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's tough to compete with I mean, for that

0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:15.800
<v Speaker 1>she was a big point of contention for a lot

0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:17.600
<v Speaker 1>of guys in our high school. I feel like, yeah, well,

0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:19.720
<v Speaker 1>she's exactly what you're talking about. She had that she

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<v Speaker 1>was very distinct, and she had a very particular personality

0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:24.639
<v Speaker 1>and was kind of like this mystique about her. She

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<v Speaker 1>just did random stuff, you know, like that. It felt

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<v Speaker 1>like everything that she did was very um thoughtless, not

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<v Speaker 1>in a bad way, but like she that's just who

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<v Speaker 1>she was, carefree, not thought like. Yeah yeah, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a relationship now, yeah for how long? Oh god? Yes,

0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:53.320
<v Speaker 1>was like four years months? Wow? Yeahs did she just

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<v Speaker 1>moved out here in November of sixteen to Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she came with you. Yeah, and we met at

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<v Speaker 1>school in New York. Went to school together in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're very handsome. Oh thank you? I mean, oh yeah,

0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:09.520
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about this girl. For people that are listening

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<v Speaker 1>and just giving him, we'll describe him, then describe Taylor.

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<v Speaker 1>You remind me of Tarzan. Oh I get that all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Yeah, I've gotten my girl. This is like,

0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:22.000
<v Speaker 1>this is like a mushy anecdote. But my girlfriend actually

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to me in college and she sent me

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<v Speaker 1>a Facebook message saying like, hey, hi, am you know

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<v Speaker 1>so and so and um for a long for the

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<v Speaker 1>longest time, they her and her friends had known me

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<v Speaker 1>around campus as Tarzan and that's what they'd call me

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<v Speaker 1>because I had my long hair then and just walk around,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, shirtless and a loin cloths and um, I

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<v Speaker 1>just walk around and you know, that's how they knew me.

0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:43.600
<v Speaker 1>And she had seen her, but like I didn't know her.

0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:45.480
<v Speaker 1>We didn't have any classes together. She's a year younger

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<v Speaker 1>than me. And then she just messed me on Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>once and I was like, I we should go hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>And she took me to the film festival that first date,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that that was a good good good yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like obsessed with movies. Is that a good

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<v Speaker 1>first day? Strong opinions on first dates. I don't love

0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:11.560
<v Speaker 1>it for first maybe a second, but ale, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was really good. It was like an Indian movie that

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<v Speaker 1>they made for like you know, no money in New

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<v Speaker 1>York or whatever, so it probably was horrible. But like

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<v Speaker 1>if I was like in Trouble in the Jungle, I

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<v Speaker 1>would like want Taylor there. He looks like tars in

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<v Speaker 1>the sense that he's tall and he's muscular and he

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<v Speaker 1>has long hair. So it's really if your picture tars

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<v Speaker 1>and a a green T shirt, that's pretty much what

0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you got Taylor. Taylor in high school got like twenty

0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.840
<v Speaker 1>d one football scholarship offers, and he said every single

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<v Speaker 1>one of them so he could pursue a career in

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<v Speaker 1>what's writing. I guess I would like to do like

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<v Speaker 1>writing film acting basically, I said in the car, I

0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:47.280
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'd like to be Donald Glover, but maybe

0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:49.840
<v Speaker 1>not with the rap album. It's just it was it

0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:51.720
<v Speaker 1>was just still working on the rap skills because he

0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.200
<v Speaker 1>was because he's like, what are you six five six

0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:57.399
<v Speaker 1>six six six six, and so he was like and

0:20:57.480 --> 0:20:58.880
<v Speaker 1>he was a still in high school too, so he's

0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:01.760
<v Speaker 1>very physically imposing and means he was very good at football, basketball,

0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:03.600
<v Speaker 1>these things, and he had all these opportunities to go

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<v Speaker 1>to these schools and be an athlete, but instead he

0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.480
<v Speaker 1>decided to pursue this that is writing and acting all

0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:10.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff, which is great. I mean, like I

0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:11.720
<v Speaker 1>was like, I guess that I wanted to commend you

0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:15.000
<v Speaker 1>for that because people wouldn't. Yeah, it's not like I'm no, no,

0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:18.400
<v Speaker 1>tell that to my dad and my student, my student loans.

0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:21.879
<v Speaker 1>But but that's interesting. I mean, your parents had to

0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:24.560
<v Speaker 1>be okay with that, right, because there's so much harm

0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.600
<v Speaker 1>that can come to you playing football in college. I

0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:29.679
<v Speaker 1>don't think, well, it's it's so it's I'm half simone

0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:31.399
<v Speaker 1>and so that's a whole you know, It's a very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting thing because I feel like for a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>especially like of simone decent or in someone they see it,

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<v Speaker 1>um they're classically of a less you know, wealthy demographic

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And so often like my dad went to

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<v Speaker 1>full went to school for a full scholarship in basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>my my uncle's, my aunts, my cousins, like tons of people,

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<v Speaker 1>it's tough to turn down something you're off for exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for I, oh totally understand from that perspective

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<v Speaker 1>why my dad really wanted me to do that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just couldn't see myself personally from the way I

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<v Speaker 1>am and like my characteristics, what I like doing, going

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<v Speaker 1>to something every day that I don't love completely, you

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<v Speaker 1>seem you seem gentle. I literally was just gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>you're like the gentle giant. That was literally, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's a I think that's a compliment be kind. What

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<v Speaker 1>position did you play? Oh? God, d n yeah, you can.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. They always I was really annoyed during basketball

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<v Speaker 1>because they I was always like one of the tallest.

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<v Speaker 1>They always put me down in post and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd totally be like a three power forwards. We didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>They never passed them anyway, though, I totally forgot about.

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<v Speaker 1>You went to college in New York. Yeah, and studied film. No.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, so this is it just comes to the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing because I love learning. I love so many things.

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<v Speaker 1>I end up studying Spanish language and classical literature. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So it has absolutely no bearing on what I do

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<v Speaker 1>right now, which is not very much now. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I can see your parents frustration exactly exactly. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you finally moved to l A at age

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four or so. Yeah, I think it's I think.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, um, I saved a bunch of money. I

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<v Speaker 1>lived in Colorado obviously, but it's been our birthday or

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<v Speaker 1>one day apart. Yeah, April six, Yeah, yeah, fifteen. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>that was that was Emma. That's I forget about. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you did it for a while, I did. Emma was

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<v Speaker 1>the fifteenth Taylor's the sixteenth year, the seventeenth. Sorry about that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just really just like one of your oldest brows. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the person I see each other in a while though,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're taking off, yeah exactly. It's like riding a bike.

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<v Speaker 1>Se saved a bunch of money and what are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing here? Um? I want to do writing. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing some freelance writing, not very much, but um, just

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<v Speaker 1>going to like you know that whole thing, Like meetings

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<v Speaker 1>are like, well will this happen? Won't this happened? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 1>But not acting you don't want to do I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to do that. Um. It's just like I've taken

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<v Speaker 1>some classes, but I would like to do more, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I take I feel I could take everything pretty

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<v Speaker 1>seriously and I don't want to just approach anything being

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm just gonna show up and whatever. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it is it is a craft and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like you don't want to sick show up and

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<v Speaker 1>be a guest on a podcast per day? Well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I love pocket. This is like my dream. I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to podcasts like all day, so I'm really really excited

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<v Speaker 1>to help my second dating. I was actually listening to

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast it's about constipation. What did I say? It

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<v Speaker 1>is like this is the whole thing, like the weekly

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<v Speaker 1>every week is about No, he's like a natural path,

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<v Speaker 1>natural path like doctor. So it was like, um, remedies

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<v Speaker 1>to help constipation, natural ways to help conservation. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it was educational? Yeah? Did he mention whether

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<v Speaker 1>blondes or brunettes are more likely to become constipated? Not

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<v Speaker 1>that blonde? All right? Well? Um, one way to avoid constipation,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, is to eat healthy. Just the better you eat,

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<v Speaker 1>the more you know, the better your digesticism works. Diet

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<v Speaker 1>is very very important, and you want to know. One

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<v Speaker 1>way to have the best diet possible is to order

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<v Speaker 1>the hell of fresh before, haven't you, And you love it,

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<v Speaker 1>you rave about it. So for those listeners that are

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<v Speaker 1>unaware of what Hello Fresh is, it's basically a meal

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<v Speaker 1>kit delivery service that shops, plans and delivers your favorite

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<v Speaker 1>so you can cook your meals on your own terms

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<v Speaker 1>burger with tomato, onion jam and a rugula, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>which is a premium selection. Love that premium selection. They

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<v Speaker 1>typically take less than thirty minutes to make, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>really no cleanup because you have exactly the ingredients you

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<v Speaker 1>need to cook the meal that they delivered to you.

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<v Speaker 1>And ah, if you use my code unglirt thirty at

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<v Speaker 1>hell of fresh dot com, you'll get thirty dollars off

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<v Speaker 1>your very first week. That's unglirt thirty U n g

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<v Speaker 1>You'll feel more confident in the kitchen and your be

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<v Speaker 1>saving money. I think I mentioned last week. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>cooking a lot more and the whole reason behind that

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<v Speaker 1>is because the hell of Fresh it's been great. We

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<v Speaker 1>just move in a new house. I got a big

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen to use. That's so cute, a little island to

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<v Speaker 1>prepare things on. Yeah, so I'm you know, I'm cooking again.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm in a relationship or not,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have roommates, don't have roommates, do have roommates.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying, you know, I'm trying to learn.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be a better person in two thousand eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and that involves being better at cooking. So you just

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<v Speaker 1>got a new place. Hey, we moved like a month ago.

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<v Speaker 1>We being you and the roommates roommates. Yes, Oh that's

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<v Speaker 1>nice because roommates don't typically go from place to place together.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm crazy, but that's right, No, that's true. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my roommate. So I've lived with these guys together for

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<v Speaker 1>one year. One of the guys that lived with for

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<v Speaker 1>the past two and a half years, and he just

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<v Speaker 1>purchased the place in Venice, and we both decided to

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<v Speaker 1>be basically his tenants in his house with me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's fun is the right word to

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<v Speaker 1>discribe it, but I decided it. But or I justify

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<v Speaker 1>it by I'd rarely pay his mortgage than some random

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<v Speaker 1>waylord's mortgage, you know, yeah, and schoolhouse good for you,

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<v Speaker 1>good for him? Hello Fresh, Hello co. I'm glad thirty

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<v Speaker 1>U N G L E R T three zero dollars

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<v Speaker 1>off your first week. So we were half an hour

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<v Speaker 1>into the show and we haven't gotten to our theme

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<v Speaker 1>yet this week, which is dating apps. But we're now

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<v Speaker 1>being joined by someone from Bumble who's going to answer

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<v Speaker 1>any questions we have about Bumble and how it all works. Um,

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:50.119
<v Speaker 1>I hope you guys have some questions prepared. I love you,

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:54.400
<v Speaker 1>but you want to know what's funny is you guys

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<v Speaker 1>can still be using Bumble to network professionally, to be

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<v Speaker 1>meeting BFFs. I'm sure Alex would love to tell us

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.640
<v Speaker 1>about all of that stuff. Here she is Dean. Hey, Alex,

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<v Speaker 1>are you there? Hi? I'm here. Hi. This is Dean.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you Dean? I'm doing well? How are you?

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm good? Thanks for calling in your joint or I'm

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>joined in the studio. I guess with East and Mark

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Tanya Taylor. So you've got a full crew. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for calling in. Wow, it sounds like a party. It's

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 1>a party and you're missing out. But at least we

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 1>have you on the phone. Uh, you know it could

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<v Speaker 1>be worse, So can you tell us a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more so we were just kind of discussing roundtable a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about bumble Um. What's your roll over at

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<v Speaker 1>bumble right now? I'm head of brands, so basically I

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>oversee anything that the brand UM is involved in. That's uh.

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I oversee marketing activations and campaign on a larger scale

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<v Speaker 1>and also the customer experience. I've been with bumble um

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<v Speaker 1>since the very beginning when we launched um so I

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>alongside with our CEO and founder Whitney Wolf, really came

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<v Speaker 1>up with the voice and personality of Bumble. Got you

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<v Speaker 1>So you are the one that greenlit uh us being

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<v Speaker 1>able to do an ad for bumble on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an interesting decision. Yes, Um, you're welcome. Now. We

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<v Speaker 1>love our sponsors, Alex, thank you so much for green

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<v Speaker 1>lighting that. That's that's just great. Um. Okay, so tell

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<v Speaker 1>us a little bit about bumble I mean we're we're

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>well aware of the app itself, but maybe for the

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>listener that's a little less informed. Um, because it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just another run of the mill dating app, right, we

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>aren't just another dating app. We really are a mission

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<v Speaker 1>based company. M our our goal is to change the

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<v Speaker 1>dynamics of relationships by having and had normative relationships. Women

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<v Speaker 1>make the first move, and while that may seem like

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<v Speaker 1>a gimmick, it actually does change the approach of introduction

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<v Speaker 1>and when when the ball is in the woman's court

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<v Speaker 1>and she makes the first move, there's less aggression online

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<v Speaker 1>and we actually, which is unheard of her dating app,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a less than one percent U reports of

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of abuse or harassment and bumble. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that really is a tw cement to what

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to do, which is give women more control

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<v Speaker 1>over their dating life. You know, Historically women have been

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<v Speaker 1>told to spend their hands and wait for a man

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, or anybody to make the first move.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, a lot of times women give their power

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<v Speaker 1>over immediately in relationships, and we're trying to bring that

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<v Speaker 1>power back for women. Um. But actually, in the past year,

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<v Speaker 1>we've we've moved beyond just being a dating app. We

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<v Speaker 1>have bumbled BFS. What's launched back in March two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I might get the time wrong, sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was March two thousand and sixteen. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all been kind of a whirlwind, honestly. Um. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we have bumbled Biz actually what's launched in October, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is for networking and friendship finding. So Bumble really

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<v Speaker 1>is more of an introduction app now than it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a social network over just being a dating app. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's great. And I don't use dating apps anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>as we discussed a learn in this podcast, because I'm

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not allowed to. But Tanya's in the studio she

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<v Speaker 1>uses them. Um. And I will say that as a

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<v Speaker 1>former user of dating apps, I always found Bumble to

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<v Speaker 1>be the most successful. For whatever reason. I guess with

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<v Speaker 1>the woman having to uh, the opportunity to reach out

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<v Speaker 1>first kind of leads to more success rates, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>what's your experience with it? You know what's funny is

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<v Speaker 1>on other dating apps also, like you know that the

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>women don't have to make the first move, I still

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<v Speaker 1>find myself making the first move. I don't know why,

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<v Speaker 1>you go yeah, thank you. I don't know why because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it takes the pressure off the guys and

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<v Speaker 1>then they don't have to think of some like you know, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>clever you know, I just say whatever I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's like an easy open conversation. It really does.

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<v Speaker 1>And for whatever reason, dating apps, you know, they do

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<v Speaker 1>become almost a numbers game and if you if a

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>man is constantly making the first move, women almost become

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>inundated with messages on dating apps. And that's what we

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>wanted to prevent, was that feeling of ye, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of being overwhelmed and actually, you know, honestly, we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to change the whole mentality where women are sent photos

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<v Speaker 1>and messages that are very aggressive and uncomfortable to receive

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 1>and feel like harassment online. Yeah, I mean everyone wants

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>to avoid that. Well, people want to avoid that. You

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>like that, you like that the women made the first move. Well,

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:15.959
<v Speaker 1>I think it's been a common theme is that. Uh.

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I think Tanya and Becca both seemed to think that

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<v Speaker 1>I love it when a girl makes the first move,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean, to be honest, it's it's nice. It

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of validates in this in this realm, at least,

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>it validates the match that you guys have when the

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>girl is matching with you and then still wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>reach out on top of that. Um. But Alex, you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned a couple of times like the importance of the introduction.

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<v Speaker 1>So from your side of things on the backside, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you kind of see as the most appropriate introduction

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>for a girl to say to a guy in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the dating realm. And I think Erica, who's one

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>of the producers in here, was saying that she likes

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 1>to send a gift or is it a Jeff. I

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>actually think it's it's the correct mestiation, is Jeff From

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>what I've heard, I've heard that for graphics graphics interface,

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>it's got to be g totally agree with you. Somebody,

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm one of the older members on our

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>team at thirty and somebody on the team was trying

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>to explain to me that it was a Jeff and

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I've gotta say, gift for me, Um,

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I gift. It's a great option, I think, you know,

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I think a gift really does as we move forward,

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>not j I gift really does help sin through personality. UM.

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I think also playing off somebody's profile. I think, you know,

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>especially for men and women, it's really important to fill

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>out your bio and give information. And I think that

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>you can almost put a hook in your bio of

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 1>a conversation starter as well. And listen, when we first

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 1>launched bumble Um, we were having to not only change

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the fact that people thought that meeting online and dating

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>apps were the whole concept behind it was a little

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 1>bit seedy and a little bit um, you know, people

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>were embarrassing, but also women weren't making the first move

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>um and so we were having to almost retrain the

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>way that women teach a new concepts that you can

0:33:57.560 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 1>make the first move. So I'm always proud of a

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>man who does, if it's even just like an emoji,

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>like a waving hand or a high But I think

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>there's so much more that you can you can There's

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>so many places you can go from there. And I

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 1>think the most important part of a first move is

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you get to direct the way that you want the

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:15.839
<v Speaker 1>conversation to go. And I always say that you can

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 1>almost move into a first date and ask the questions

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 1>that you would be asking on a first date in

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 1>chats on bumble and then that way, but you almost

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you show up for the first date in person for

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 1>your second date, UM, So I think that you can

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:34.800
<v Speaker 1>you can begin uh asking a question playing off of

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 1>somebody's bio, using a gift um, anything like that that

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 1>really does, uh just help you separate from a high

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:44.799
<v Speaker 1>or a hello. Yeah, it definitely helps build a level

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:46.799
<v Speaker 1>of comfortability. I think I was telling I was telling

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Erica earlier that, uh, whenever a girl would message me

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>just hey to start, I think that I would probably

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 1>respond to those maybe one percent of the time. No way. Yeah,

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:58.879
<v Speaker 1>it's just there's no personalization. It just all it takes

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>is really thirt what half of the second to type

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>out hey, and then saturday second, I don't know we're

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 1>talking to you, but I'm just saying that it's not

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>personal and it takes She's probably literally doing that to

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 1>like every other guy that she matched with, and that's

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>just kind of why I never really had any interest

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:18.720
<v Speaker 1>in starting conversation with profile like my bumble profile. Actually

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I remember what the bio said. It was. I mean,

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 1>it's just you know, regular pictures of me off of

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 1>my Instagram or something. I think my my bio caption

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 1>said if you don't want to message me first, that's fine.

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I get that, but you're wrong and I hate you.

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>It was a playoff of It was a playoff of

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 1>the workaholics line. Um very aggressive it Yeah, it's it's

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:43.320
<v Speaker 1>it was a playoff of the workaholics line, where's like,

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>if you don't want to date me, that's fine, I

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 1>get that, but you're wrong and I hate you. So

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I just twisted it into being dating app relevant. And

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>then I mean, obviously there were a couple of girls

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 1>that maybe didn't get the reference, but the ones that

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 1>did kind of allowed us to have a content. Can

0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I say one thing about that. I think it's hilarious

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:01.720
<v Speaker 1>that you had that is your bio and then weren't

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 1>responding when people, Yeah, that's actually I didn't even think

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>of that. That's funny. And again this come this is

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 1>was you know, a year and a half, two years ago.

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I was twenty four, I was young. I wasn't really

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>sure what I was doing. I was just testing the

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>dating app waters um. But I mean, it's new territory

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 1>we're all doing. I mean, just this is uncharted waters

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 1>for everyone. Right. People are getting the hang of it now,

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 1>but it is. It's just a new way of meeting

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's and I think too, if you were saying women,

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, saying hey, that's that's new territory for women

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 1>to say hi and make the first move. A lot

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:34.800
<v Speaker 1>of for a lot of women that's extremely outside of

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>their comfort zones. And I think that any time that

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:41.399
<v Speaker 1>a woman makes the first move is is really exciting. Um,

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>but it is. We're we're just we're all kind of

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to navigate the new world of dating. And I

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>think that another point that was another point to a

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>woman just saying hey or hi, Like, I think the

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:54.399
<v Speaker 1>majority of people nowadays are you know, going after their

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 1>careers and are just busy in general, so sometimes it

0:36:57.520 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 1>does get hard to be creative. And I think that's

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>where gifts come in. Yeah, that makes sense. And I

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>think that you were talking about earlier how you guys

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.320
<v Speaker 1>have done a great job of kind of eliminating the

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:09.279
<v Speaker 1>stigma attached to dating apps. Um, And it seems to

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 1>be more widely socially acceptable now, whereas like two or

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:13.800
<v Speaker 1>three years ago, no one really it was kind of

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:15.399
<v Speaker 1>like almost taboo to talk about, Like you didn't really

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:17.320
<v Speaker 1>tell your friends that you were on Bumble or Tinder

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>or any of these apps. But now it seems like

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:20.840
<v Speaker 1>everyone that's on it is a lot more comfortable to

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>be like, yeah, I'm on it, I'm trying to you know, Yeah,

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you were using you were using dating apps like at

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:27.719
<v Speaker 1>eleven PM when none of your friends were around in

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:29.839
<v Speaker 1>the privacy of your room to nobody. Now, I would

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>just use it when I was at my office and

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I was, I don't know, trying to procrastinate and put

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 1>off working. It was it was. It was a great outlet.

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 1>You can people can still use it that way too.

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Just don't tell your boss that we say that, right

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 1>And if my if my former boss is listening, I'm sorry,

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't super into the work I guess I

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 1>was doing at the time. Um, where did the name

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 1>bumble come from? Bumble came from the concept of a

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 1>clean bee, right, so a woman being in control. That's

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 1>that's where bumble came from. And and um, something else

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 1>that I think is was really clever when we were

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.359
<v Speaker 1>starting to talk about bumble and playing around with it. Um,

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 1>it's the idea that when you date, like to to

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 1>bumble is to stumble about awkwardly, and that's kind of

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:16.839
<v Speaker 1>what dating is. Um, You're stumbling around trying to get

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:18.839
<v Speaker 1>to catch your footing. And I think that that's also

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>a really clever play on the word bumble. So it's

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>it's bumble as a verb. I guess not and actually

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I think you know there was a time, Whitney, you

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 1>actually spoke about this. But we were in my mom's

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>kitchen one time in Dallas and talking about the name

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Bumble and my mom was like, um, be the clean bee,

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:40.800
<v Speaker 1>find your honey, and Whitney was like, yes, so that's it.

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>So that's I mean, we realized how many, how many

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>ways there were like words to play on with it

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and wasting courage women, um, really to take ownership with

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 1>their life. That's great. I actually have a couple of

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 1>friends that I've worked over at Bumble just from like

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 1>the inside perspective. They've all said very very positive things

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:00.239
<v Speaker 1>of like work, atmosphere, environment, and a lot kind of stuff.

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of off topic, but that's awesome. Maybe we

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.839
<v Speaker 1>can talk offline about who your friends are because we've

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 1>we try to maintain that kind of a workplace environment.

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:10.839
<v Speaker 1>So that's really great to years and especially with all

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the growth you guys have seen. I'm sure it must

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:13.359
<v Speaker 1>be difficult to do, but it's good that you guys

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 1>are still doing it. We are having so much fun.

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean our team, I know that we're talking more

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 1>about you know, just stating and how to use bumblo

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 1>with our team is I mean, we have a spectacular

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.320
<v Speaker 1>team with people and everybody who joins. I've been amazed.

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:28.959
<v Speaker 1>I've had a lot of growth, especially in the past

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 1>six months, and so many incredible minds haven't joined have

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 1>joined our teams. And uh, it's just all of the

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>new creativity and collaboration that's really exciting. And um, we

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>really do try to treat each other, um with respect.

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Nobody's ideas are more important or valuable than anybody else

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>is on our team. Okay, I have another question for you. So, um,

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:50.840
<v Speaker 1>back in the day when I did have bumble, I

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>would notice that if I wasn't on for a couple

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>of days, like the first ten profiles I came across

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 1>were profiles that were almost automatic, like swipe rights. Do

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 1>you guys have like a specific algorithm And maybe I

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know, maybe this is I p that you're not

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 1>willing to share, maybe you're not allowed to share, but

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 1>are like the first ten profiles of every time you

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 1>log onto the app, like the more attractive profiles, or

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe like the profiles that you see more swipe rights on.

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of why you put them at the

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 1>top of the queue. No, not necessarily. I think that

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:18.760
<v Speaker 1>it's more about like who, It's more of a compatibility thing. Okay,

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 1>all right, that's just a question that I was. It

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 1>was something I always kind of thought about. What advice

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.359
<v Speaker 1>do you have for a profile picture? I know that's

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 1>a very stressful thing for some people because that's really

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 1>all you have to go on if you're just doing

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 1>a swipe run. I well, and it's and it's going

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:34.919
<v Speaker 1>back to this also goes back to make like making

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the first move. I am so about being yourself. I

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>think that you should lay your cards on the table

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 1>and just be who you are and you're going to

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 1>attract the right person. Um, but I think that your

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:46.840
<v Speaker 1>first not being said, I'm about to give advice on

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 1>what your first profile pictures should be, but I think

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that used it should be approachable. You know, there are

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 1>sometimes people who will have their first pictures be them

0:40:56.320 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 1>like on a motorcycle, um, you know, very like intimid eating.

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.840
<v Speaker 1>And if that is who you are, then let that,

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 1>let that hine. But if you are more you know,

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 1>you like what do you banter and you're more laid

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>back and you're really more about like fronting, I don't

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 1>think that you should really front somebody who you're not. UM. So,

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to show the most approachable version

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.800
<v Speaker 1>of yourself. UM and I always recommend having a photo

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 1>of you, like your favorite current photo of you, not

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:27.759
<v Speaker 1>a photo of you from like six months ago. When

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:30.359
<v Speaker 1>you try blue hair, you know, just make it who

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 1>you are now, and that person should be smiling and approachable.

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:37.920
<v Speaker 1>UM And I think that that that we tend to

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 1>see the most stripe rights with that. It's funny that

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned that I have a friend, uh who was

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:46.320
<v Speaker 1>talking to me, talking to us recently about how she's

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 1>not having the most success on these dates, and then

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:50.879
<v Speaker 1>we looked at her profile and we're like, well, yeah,

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:52.560
<v Speaker 1>of course you have all of the pictures from when

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 1>you were in college and you're twenty nine now, so

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 1>it's like you're they're expecting something different and not that

0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 1>that's obviously the driving factor to a success relationship, but

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I mean, you want to go into a

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>date with at least an idea of the current person

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 1>that you're Yeah. I also think it's really important too,

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Like I it's amazing if you have a bunch of

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:14.719
<v Speaker 1>photos of modeling, or if that's hobby or your profession.

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 1>But keep in mind when you're you're wanting to go

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 1>out with somebody and sit down and have a coffee

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 1>or have a drink, and sometimes you're like, if it's

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>a photo of you that's to stylize, it can be intimidating. Um.

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 1>So I think you know where whereas like an Instagram

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 1>is a place where you really can uh show off

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>like incredibly gorgeous stylized photos of yourself, you want this

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:39.319
<v Speaker 1>to be a place where people feel like they can

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>actually approach to you. It also goes downd to like

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:45.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean in real life. You know, when you're out

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:47.880
<v Speaker 1>at a bar or you're out with your friends, you know,

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 1>if you're if you are sitting there and you're you

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>aren't being very open and you aren't smiling, and you

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:57.359
<v Speaker 1>aren't being approachable, sometimes it's difficult to start conversations that way,

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 1>which is nothing to say if you're more introverted. I mean, um,

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:03.000
<v Speaker 1>that's the beauty of bumble is that you can find somebody,

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 1>um in a much easier way if you are introverted.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about this today while I was flying

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 1>back from Sundance, and I consider myself an introvert, and

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I would sometimes walk around with earbuds in my ear

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 1>without music playing, because I think that when you have

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:18.960
<v Speaker 1>earbuds and you're less approachable and so like, I'd be

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 1>like at work with earbuds and no music playing just

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't want anyone to come up and talk

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:29.960
<v Speaker 1>to me. That kind of that's kind of you know,

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:33.399
<v Speaker 1>I've done that, but I usually have music on. Oh well,

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean teach their own, I guess, which also is

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 1>scary because I have really bumbles based in Austin, Texas,

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 1>and that's always like terrifying to me when I'm in

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.319
<v Speaker 1>like London or New York and I'm walking around with music,

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm always so afraid walking around on the streets

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that way. It's not the most intelligent. Well, as long

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.520
<v Speaker 1>as you get away with it, I guess. But um, Alex,

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for calling in and um, I

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 1>guess helping us and helping our listeners improve their bumble profiles. Absolutely,

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 1>any any parting words before we up off the phone. Yeah,

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I think just the most important thing is to be

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.319
<v Speaker 1>yourself and to bumble with an open mind. I think

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you know a lot of times we go into like

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 1>you log on and you expect to be looking for

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 1>a certain type of person, right. You think that you

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:18.399
<v Speaker 1>have an idea of what you're looking for ahead of time.

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>But maybe you masked with somebody who ends up truthfully

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 1>being one of your best friends, or maybe they connect

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 1>you to the person who it is the love of

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:28.840
<v Speaker 1>your life. And I just think that you never know

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.360
<v Speaker 1>what you know. You can't really tell what you're looking for.

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:35.759
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes in friendship and dating and in business, and

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that if you keep an open mind and

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 1>don't limit yourself, that the options are limit less of

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.400
<v Speaker 1>who you can meet. And it's really just about expanding

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>your world. I love it. It's great to have another

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 1>avenue to meet people. I mean, the guy who wears

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:57.919
<v Speaker 1>heads well, okay, and how can you graduate? It's hard people.

0:44:58.040 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 1>This is coming from the guy that would prefer to

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 1>stay on our Friday night and a Saturday night. And

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 1>so it's nice if you're a single person to be

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 1>able to kind of have the experience of meeting new

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 1>people without having to go out too social settings. That

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. Actually able to meet new people while you're

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:14.440
<v Speaker 1>eating pizza watching that sucks the greatest, exactly all right, Alex, Well,

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for calling in again. Uh, we

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:20.320
<v Speaker 1>definitely appreciate the time and we will hopefully continue to

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 1>have listeners who use bumble and reap the benefits of it. Absolutely,

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 1>thank you all for having me. This is a great conversation.

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, take care? Alright? Can we go back to

0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you are, like, what's wrong with the

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 1>world right now? What do you mean, Oh how I'd

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 1>just like to be closed off? And yeah, like nobody

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I can walk down. I like actually did an experiment

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 1>where I would walk just walk to like my local

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:46.320
<v Speaker 1>farmer's market or whatever, and I'd say good morning to

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:48.800
<v Speaker 1>every single person that walked by, and so many people

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:52.400
<v Speaker 1>did not respond, And I'm like, what is okay? And

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 1>this is different because I'm an incredibly affectionate person when

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I run into anyone on the street. But it's like

0:45:57.200 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 1>there are times where you want to be like in

0:45:58.680 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 1>your own head and closed off and all that kind

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff actually got at Sundance. I mean, obviously there's like

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:05.719
<v Speaker 1>movie stars everywhere, but for some reasons, people still wanted

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 1>to like approach me and say hi to me and

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>like have a conversation with me, and almost kind of

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:11.240
<v Speaker 1>gotten trouble for and I've gotten in trouble for this before,

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:14.320
<v Speaker 1>where when I meet someone new that's excited to meet me,

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I like to create as much of an impression as

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 1>I possibly can, So I'll I'll have like a five

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 1>de seminant conversation with with whoever that is, and with

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 1>whoever it is that I'm with kind of sometimes gets

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 1>annoyed by me investing my time and strangers on the

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>street instead of investing time in the relationship that I

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 1>think that's because that's the only time they're gonna have

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 1>with you, And that's that's the way that I justified

0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 1>to I'm like five five minutes, uh with meeting someone

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 1>that's excited, and we'll put a smile on their face

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of stuff is is nothing, and

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 1>then you know, obviously like we'll still have time to

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:44.879
<v Speaker 1>spend together after this conversation. I had a friend visit

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 1>from Wisconsin that I hadn't seen in many, many years,

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and she brought her daughter out here and I said, oh,

0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 1>do you guys know that? Bashley Nodina like, oh, yeah,

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 1>we know. Do you know what comes to say? How

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:54.359
<v Speaker 1>did Dean? And they did and he couldn't have been

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 1>nicer and kinder, and he spent maybe not ten minutes,

0:46:57.120 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 1>but he spent like two minutes with him. But they

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:02.880
<v Speaker 1>felt like he made them feel so special. Who's asking

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 1>about them and all these questions. You really just made

0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:07.279
<v Speaker 1>them feel important and like the only people in the room.

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 1>And I think that was really kind. Thanks. Martin's a

0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 1>good guy. So at the point that is is, yes,

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:13.720
<v Speaker 1>I am a lot of what's wrong with the world's

0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 1>because I'd like to avoid uh social settings, but at

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the same time, when I'm in them, I I do

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 1>do my best to make sure I'm very present and

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.919
<v Speaker 1>no show the same as you, I said, I feel

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:28.239
<v Speaker 1>the same as Yeah. So it's just interesting when when

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:30.800
<v Speaker 1>you said that, because to me, you are very extroverted,

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.400
<v Speaker 1>like you're so happy, go lucky, you're so engaging, and

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you're so like such a people person that got I

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:39.279
<v Speaker 1>got into this conversation actually just recently as well as um,

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I can say I define myself as an introvert, but

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 1>other people call me an extrovert because I guess I'm

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 1>able to survive or key my head above in social

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:49.000
<v Speaker 1>settings or a head above water. But I think I

0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 1>would define it as what you're doing when you're by yourself,

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:53.960
<v Speaker 1>or say it's like Friday eight pm and what you're

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 1>what you're motivated by is what defines you whether introverted

0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 1>experts of it's Friday eight pm and you want to

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 1>stay in, and that's consistent and makes you an introvert.

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 1>But if your Friday a pm and you want to

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:03.719
<v Speaker 1>go out, that would say that you're more extroverted. That's

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:05.840
<v Speaker 1>just kind of a way like when you're acting for

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:08.719
<v Speaker 1>yourself and not for other people. Kind of that She

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 1>sheds late on whether you like to be in the

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:13.400
<v Speaker 1>interesting and like I said, I'd rather spend a Friday

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 1>night in watching movies eating pizza than going out to

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:18.800
<v Speaker 1>a bar. And what celebrities did you see at Sundance?

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 1>We saw Paul Rudd the first night and then Peter

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Dinklich on Sunday night. I went up to Peter Dinklich

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and I asked him for a picture and he said no,

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 1>but one time I've ever asked anyone for a picture.

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 1>He just said no, but you can shake my hand,

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, all right. He told me that

0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:38.840
<v Speaker 1>in the car and I thought I heard an interview

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:40.600
<v Speaker 1>with Laurence Fishburne once and he said, you'd much rather

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 1>spend like I have a human a moment of human connection,

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:47.279
<v Speaker 1>and you know, just this picture a picture. I know

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying. I was saying, maybe if we think

0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:52.000
<v Speaker 1>about it from Peter's perspective, you know, and he's very sure,

0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 1>he's very easily identifiable, So I'm sure he gets asked

0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:56.600
<v Speaker 1>for pictures. Yeah, but I wonder if that's part of

0:48:56.680 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 1>his sensitivity towards it, is that it's very Maybe he's

0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:02.320
<v Speaker 1>been goofed down in the past and that sort of

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:04.279
<v Speaker 1>a thing, and maybe that's why he's sensitive about that.

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 1>But it's just it was funny going from my experience

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:08.920
<v Speaker 1>where it's I would never say no to someone asking

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:10.400
<v Speaker 1>for a picture, and then I just get like, the

0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:11.800
<v Speaker 1>only time I've ever asked someone for a picture, I

0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:13.640
<v Speaker 1>just get shut down. So I but it's overwhelming for him, though,

0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:18.160
<v Speaker 1>since Game of Thrones, you should ask more people everyone easy.

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Here's some emails. I don't either, but emails, and these

0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:26.840
<v Speaker 1>are continuing with the theme of dating apps. This is Jared.

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty two and officially an adult. I have a

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:31.279
<v Speaker 1>nine to five job that I love. I feel like

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I just want to find that one person in my life.

0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 1>But now I hate dating. I've really never had a

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 1>long relationship or even dated much. It went on bumble,

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and now suddenly I have too much going on. I'm

0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:44.279
<v Speaker 1>talking to four girls right now, which is very weird

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:46.920
<v Speaker 1>for me. I just want to figure out who could

0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:49.440
<v Speaker 1>be my potential partner, but I feel so guilty dating

0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>multiple girls. Help, I'm suddenly too good at dating. Thank you.

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Look how this episode has been just one ongoing bumble

0:49:56.680 --> 0:50:01.439
<v Speaker 1>app that sounds like an nightmare to me. Of talking

0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:03.800
<v Speaker 1>to four girls at the same time. Just the entire

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:07.800
<v Speaker 1>like structure of how this would happen makes me anxious.

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:12.240
<v Speaker 1>You know what, I think there are two very different

0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:14.759
<v Speaker 1>types of people in the world. There's people that can

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 1>date multiple people at once, and there's people that like

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:20.200
<v Speaker 1>to date one person at time. I personally like to

0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:23.560
<v Speaker 1>do one at a time. I can't. I can barely

0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 1>remember something, you know what I mean, Like on the

0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:27.439
<v Speaker 1>first date. I think it's hard to remember. It could

0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:30.600
<v Speaker 1>imagine doing that with four other people. But I do

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:32.400
<v Speaker 1>think that it is a numbers game, you know, like

0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you go through people faster and you're bound to click

0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:38.200
<v Speaker 1>with somebody. Quicker, Well, he's texting all four of them,

0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Is that what he's saying that he's texting for them

0:50:39.719 --> 0:50:42.480
<v Speaker 1>at the same time he's actually dating multiple girls. As

0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to four girls talking to I feel so

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:46.359
<v Speaker 1>guilty dating and multiple girls. So I feel like he's

0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:49.160
<v Speaker 1>saying that when you're on a dating app, you're gonna

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:50.800
<v Speaker 1>meet for coffee or whatever and here and here, and

0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:54.279
<v Speaker 1>suddenly you're at date two or three with multiple girls,

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:56.799
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of an uncomfortable thing, and then gets

0:50:56.800 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 1>to the point where you're at date eight with one

0:50:58.200 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and date two with another, and then how do you

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:02.239
<v Speaker 1>probably ties and the other one they find out? Like, yeah,

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I get I get the discomfort, but I also think

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that this is kind of how it is right now.

0:51:06.840 --> 0:51:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea, so I'm just like, yeah, and

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:11.560
<v Speaker 1>dating is so ill defined now too. I feel like,

0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:13.719
<v Speaker 1>is a coffee like you go to coffee twice and

0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:16.920
<v Speaker 1>you're dating that person. It feels like high school again

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:18.600
<v Speaker 1>because it'll be like, oh, these people are dating. It's like,

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:20.920
<v Speaker 1>does that mean they're like going out going out with

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:22.359
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing? And so maybe that's what we should

0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:25.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe that should be twenty initiative is two more, uh,

0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:29.960
<v Speaker 1>granularly define what dating is. Set some more barriers and

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 1>some more structure in the dating word, the word of

0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 1>dating to make it more clear for all of us.

0:51:34.120 --> 0:51:36.480
<v Speaker 1>You should do that on the next episode, like actually

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:39.080
<v Speaker 1>spell it out, like this is dating, this is seeing

0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:43.320
<v Speaker 1>each other, this is talking create like parameters forward like

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:48.719
<v Speaker 1>a ven diagram. But but I think in this he's

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:52.000
<v Speaker 1>not dating these women, right, He's seeing multiple pie seeing them,

0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:55.400
<v Speaker 1>he's dating, He's going on dates with them, he's dating them. Um,

0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 1>what advice do we have for him? First of all,

0:51:58.200 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I also have to say I love one guy's email

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:03.279
<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of stuff. It's nice to know

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:05.279
<v Speaker 1>that there's some males out there that are are they

0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:08.120
<v Speaker 1>listening to the podcast or And also a sensitive guy

0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 1>like this who is bothered by the fact that he's

0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:12.879
<v Speaker 1>dating multiple people. Guys are high five and about that sort.

0:52:12.880 --> 0:52:14.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's still dating four or five people at

0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the same time. I mean, you know this sounds like

0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Mr Wilsher I dated I Well, I was going on

0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:26.760
<v Speaker 1>dates with this guy, um that I met on Wilshire

0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Boulevard like literally car to car and he asked me

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:32.759
<v Speaker 1>for my number, and like it's a move. So I

0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:35.000
<v Speaker 1>was like I wanted to encourage, Like I was like,

0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:38.600
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm really bad with cars. I don't know.

0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:41.399
<v Speaker 1>But it was a nice it was a nice car. Okay. Um,

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 1>and so got my number and we went out. We

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:46.239
<v Speaker 1>had a really good time, and I was like, Wow,

0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe, like actually into this guy that like

0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I met on Wilsher and Boulevard. What the heck? Um?

0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:53.400
<v Speaker 1>So we had like two dates. Everything's going great, Like

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:57.719
<v Speaker 1>kissed him. Everything was like going good. And then I'm

0:52:57.800 --> 0:53:00.040
<v Speaker 1>at I'm like he lives on in West Hall, it

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 1>would and I'm like on the west side of town,

0:53:02.760 --> 0:53:05.759
<v Speaker 1>and I'm having lunched with Becca and I'm supposed to

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:07.799
<v Speaker 1>see this guy that night. We're supposed to get drinks

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:09.880
<v Speaker 1>some dinner that night. Okay. So it's like Saturday night

0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:12.040
<v Speaker 1>and Beck and I are having lunch and we're sitting

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:15.239
<v Speaker 1>at this bench and who walks right in front of

0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:19.120
<v Speaker 1>our bench the guy Mr Wells were holding hands with

0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 1>some other chick. Mind you, this is the second time

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I've seen him. I saw him actually driving down Sunds

0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:26.760
<v Speaker 1>at Boulevard, and I saw him on a date literally

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:30.799
<v Speaker 1>on a restaurant that's weird with this, different girls, different

0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>girls than when I have experienced dating a Jared, and

0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I think he needs to quit doing it while he's

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and just pick one. And that's and that's in

0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:43.800
<v Speaker 1>l A too, and like one of the biggest to

0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the world where you're not supposed to run into people

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:47.759
<v Speaker 1>randomly like that. And so if you're doing it in

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:49.080
<v Speaker 1>like a small town, I can obviously we don't know

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:51.120
<v Speaker 1>where Jared lives, but growing up in a small town

0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 1>in Colorado, like there's no way you could possibly do that.

0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:54.840
<v Speaker 1>And even if in l A, I feel like you

0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:59.840
<v Speaker 1>can't get away with it just at once. Like I

0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:01.799
<v Speaker 1>feel like the way this works doesn't necessarily mean you're

0:54:02.040 --> 0:54:03.880
<v Speaker 1>good at it, you know what I mean, because you're

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:07.920
<v Speaker 1>not developing the conversation between and I just feel like

0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:11.120
<v Speaker 1>it'd be hard to compartmentalize your time and your brain

0:54:11.239 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 1>in such a way that you develop a meaningful relationship

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:15.320
<v Speaker 1>with I mean, obviously it was probably winnow down to

0:54:15.400 --> 0:54:17.200
<v Speaker 1>one person, but I mean I have friends that use

0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 1>these apps that will have like a roster of like

0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 1>three or four girls that's talking too one time, and

0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:22.879
<v Speaker 1>maybe one drops off, they get back on the app

0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and get like a fourth or fifth one put back on.

0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:29.840
<v Speaker 1>There's definitely a bad side to these. There's a constant

0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:32.160
<v Speaker 1>churn of new people that they're being introduced to. And

0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe, like like Alex said on the phone

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:35.239
<v Speaker 1>just now, it is a numbers game in a lot

0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:37.400
<v Speaker 1>of ways, and maybe they're just dating until one of

0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:40.000
<v Speaker 1>them sticks and then that stickiness turns into it. I

0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:41.880
<v Speaker 1>don't feel like he's doing anything wrong here. I'm not.

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:43.479
<v Speaker 1>I really don't know. They don't think you're doing anything

0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:45.719
<v Speaker 1>wrong wrong, But I think you should maybe pick two

0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and just stick to two. I feel like four is

0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:51.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot if if if four is wrong, isn't too

0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:53.880
<v Speaker 1>also wrong? Well, but two we can be honest and say, like,

0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not just dating you, I am dating somebody else. Honesty.

0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:01.920
<v Speaker 1>It's better when it's on TV. And I think you're right,

0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:04.399
<v Speaker 1>he's not lying to anybody. I don't think he's doing

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:06.319
<v Speaker 1>anything wrong here, And I think at some point one

0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:08.239
<v Speaker 1>of these girls will capture his heart and that will

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:11.680
<v Speaker 1>make it an easy decision to go in that direction. Hopefully,

0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Unless you get down to like seven or eight days

0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and you have three people, they're all like, these are

0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:17.840
<v Speaker 1>all pretty cool. I mean at twenty two, I was

0:55:17.920 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 1>doing the same thing as him. I can't. It obviously

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:22.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't work out for me positively, but I still I mean,

0:55:22.200 --> 0:55:25.719
<v Speaker 1>I was having fun, so if he just wants that fun,

0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:28.120
<v Speaker 1>but it really depends what he's looking for. Like I

0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't advise doing that now, but that sounds like

0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:33.320
<v Speaker 1>he's having fun. Yeah, you're right, it really doesn't. But

0:55:33.800 --> 0:55:38.560
<v Speaker 1>be over it, Jared, I feel for you. YEA, all right?

0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:41.640
<v Speaker 1>What else we have? Megan? First, I listened every week.

0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I love shifting away from Bachelor in Paradise and being

0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:48.680
<v Speaker 1>personal struggle to the more all around dating advice and input. God. Yeah,

0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:51.040
<v Speaker 1>my question is on how to navigate the awkward waters

0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:53.880
<v Speaker 1>of dating apps. I live in New Orleans. I'm thirty.

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I've been single for a long time. I'm a PhD

0:55:56.960 --> 0:56:00.320
<v Speaker 1>student and very dedicated to my studies. Happily independent. I

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:02.439
<v Speaker 1>have hobbies, but it would be nice to have someone

0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:04.560
<v Speaker 1>to share my time with. I try to meet people

0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:07.319
<v Speaker 1>in person, social groups, fitness groups, try to go out

0:56:07.320 --> 0:56:09.239
<v Speaker 1>with my single girl friends the places guys would be,

0:56:09.320 --> 0:56:11.440
<v Speaker 1>but still nothing has stuck, and I feel like in

0:56:11.600 --> 0:56:14.080
<v Speaker 1>person people don't try this is interesting. I feel like

0:56:14.120 --> 0:56:16.600
<v Speaker 1>in person. People don't try as much because they can

0:56:16.680 --> 0:56:19.560
<v Speaker 1>just go home and swipe from their bed. I feel

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:21.719
<v Speaker 1>like people are shifting away from meeting in person to

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:24.400
<v Speaker 1>meeting on apps, and it's awkward. My issue is that

0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm in bumble a match with guys. I try to

0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:30.880
<v Speaker 1>message most people I match with, but guys do not respond.

0:56:31.800 --> 0:56:33.759
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any advice on dating app etiquette and

0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:36.279
<v Speaker 1>how to really grab a guy's attention? Everyone has the

0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:39.279
<v Speaker 1>typical advice, Say something cute, quirky, don't just say hey,

0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:42.400
<v Speaker 1>ask something about their profile, comment on a pick. But

0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:45.400
<v Speaker 1>it all feels awkward and disingenuous. Help dating in the

0:56:45.480 --> 0:56:47.919
<v Speaker 1>modern world sucks. That's another possible title for this show.

0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:53.000
<v Speaker 1>But I find this interesting because, uh, you match with them,

0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:55.799
<v Speaker 1>meaning they swiped right on you, and then the guy

0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:59.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't respond. I hear this complaint a lot. I mean,

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I think we were talking earlier about how I didn't

0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:02.400
<v Speaker 1>respond to a lot of people that I meshed with.

0:57:02.760 --> 0:57:05.160
<v Speaker 1>A lot of guys go with the shotgun approach where

0:57:05.440 --> 0:57:11.200
<v Speaker 1>they're not even looking at the phone and they're just swiping. Horrifying.

0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:15.279
<v Speaker 1>It's not great. Why would you do that? It's it's

0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:17.800
<v Speaker 1>like fishing right you're just casting a wide net, and

0:57:17.920 --> 0:57:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you can still cast a wide net of girls that

0:57:19.960 --> 0:57:24.320
<v Speaker 1>you like, but it does the process for you rather

0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:27.040
<v Speaker 1>than you're going okay, no, yes, no, you say yes

0:57:27.120 --> 0:57:30.680
<v Speaker 1>to everything and whoever pops up. It's an even lazier way.

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:34.640
<v Speaker 1>It's a lazy way of doing a lazy chore kind

0:57:34.680 --> 0:57:38.920
<v Speaker 1>of thing. Yeah, but that's incredible. I've never heard that.

0:57:39.040 --> 0:57:40.960
<v Speaker 1>But I think I think even though she said that

0:57:41.000 --> 0:57:42.880
<v Speaker 1>she gets this advice a lot, I think the very

0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:47.240
<v Speaker 1>first um, I guess introduction is super important. It doesn't

0:57:47.280 --> 0:57:51.080
<v Speaker 1>have to be like something interesting about their profile, but

0:57:51.240 --> 0:57:53.280
<v Speaker 1>like maybe like a funny pun or like a like

0:57:53.360 --> 0:57:57.600
<v Speaker 1>a cheesy joke. It just blows my mind. Yeah, it's like,

0:57:57.840 --> 0:58:00.320
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's crazy. It seems to comfort full circle

0:58:00.400 --> 0:58:02.560
<v Speaker 1>from going like you don't want to say a cheesy

0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:04.920
<v Speaker 1>pickup line to like, now you should text a cheesy

0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:08.560
<v Speaker 1>pickup line or a pund like if they say they're

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:11.439
<v Speaker 1>a Grace Anatomy fan and you say, oh my gosh,

0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:13.400
<v Speaker 1>you've seen this good episode yet. Isn't that a better

0:58:13.440 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 1>way to get a conversation going? No, I think so.

0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it seems you find a common point of

0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:21.680
<v Speaker 1>interest and be like, hey, I saw that you like, yeah,

0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:25.040
<v Speaker 1>a mutual interesting? You ask about it, Tanya, you're giving

0:58:25.040 --> 0:58:27.040
<v Speaker 1>me that look you give me sometimes. Yeah, I don't know.

0:58:27.120 --> 0:58:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I think I wouldn't mind that, like in the conversation,

0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:31.880
<v Speaker 1>not the opening line. You don't want them to seem

0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:35.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of like sockers. What would be your ideal opening line?

0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean I enjoy happy Saturday. They on a Saturday. No,

0:58:41.800 --> 0:58:44.480
<v Speaker 1>we're like happy Tuesday or whatever. It is just like,

0:58:44.680 --> 0:58:48.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, positive vibes, like you know, hey, like a

0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:52.160
<v Speaker 1>quick witted, like funny joke or response. That's what, at

0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:54.320
<v Speaker 1>least for me, keeps my intention and would keep me

0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:57.880
<v Speaker 1>interested in. So I remember some of my roommate, Uh,

0:58:59.160 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 1>well have you ever seen of none where he's he's

0:59:01.000 --> 0:59:02.760
<v Speaker 1>always like, I'm going to Whole Food is gonna get

0:59:02.760 --> 0:59:04.280
<v Speaker 1>you something? That one got overused a lot after that

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:06.880
<v Speaker 1>season airs, But that's like funny because it's like, oh yeah,

0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:10.640
<v Speaker 1>you're funny because it's, um, how would you respond to

0:59:10.680 --> 0:59:12.240
<v Speaker 1>that time if you've got an opening wine I'm going

0:59:12.280 --> 0:59:14.520
<v Speaker 1>to Whole Food is gonna get you something? I wouldn't

0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:16.920
<v Speaker 1>get the joke and I'd be like delete. But it's

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:21.680
<v Speaker 1>it's better than I think that. One that I used

0:59:21.720 --> 0:59:24.240
<v Speaker 1>in the past was like if if again. I use

0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:28.800
<v Speaker 1>it primarily as um very lighthearted, right, so like I

0:59:29.080 --> 0:59:31.360
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to, like, I don't know, see what potentially

0:59:31.360 --> 0:59:34.520
<v Speaker 1>could come from anything. So one that my roommate and

0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I've used was like, did you hear about the explosion

0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:38.640
<v Speaker 1>of the cheese factory? And they'd be like, oh my god, no,

0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:41.160
<v Speaker 1>the explosion of cheese factory and go, yeah, apparently there

0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:44.680
<v Speaker 1>was debris everywhere, and then it just like sparks like

0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:49.480
<v Speaker 1>a stupid conversation that's like like one pond after another,

0:59:49.960 --> 0:59:52.800
<v Speaker 1>like it really hurt. Well, that's the point. It's supposed

0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to be very cheesy. But then some people aren't gonna

0:59:55.560 --> 0:59:57.560
<v Speaker 1>get the bris reference and they're just gonna be like, well,

0:59:57.600 --> 0:59:58.880
<v Speaker 1>then that's how you weed up the ones that you

0:59:58.920 --> 1:00:01.280
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be dating in. Don't know, Oh that's

1:00:01.320 --> 1:00:05.760
<v Speaker 1>a gooda Joe back, it's fun. I want to be

1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:11.360
<v Speaker 1>a monster all it's fun. It's it's I think it's

1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:13.920
<v Speaker 1>good to establish inside joke early on because then it

1:00:14.000 --> 1:00:17.160
<v Speaker 1>allows like a fallback if something gets like weird, uncomfortable,

1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:18.720
<v Speaker 1>you go always fall back on my back to cheese.

1:00:20.480 --> 1:00:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Who else did you use that cheese? Joe, tell me

1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:25.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not bad. It's not bad. Let's maybe make a

1:00:25.200 --> 1:00:27.520
<v Speaker 1>list of those. I kind of like that of cheese jokes,

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<v Speaker 1>just like funny, funny things you can start out with. Erica,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been using gifts. I believe Alex mentioned gifts, but

1:00:35.320 --> 1:00:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Erica has some success with a gift on Bumble. I

1:00:37.920 --> 1:00:41.840
<v Speaker 1>think it's going fine. I like gifts. I'm a big fan.

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<v Speaker 1>You get response, which one did you use? The sub

1:00:45.040 --> 1:00:47.040
<v Speaker 1>seal it's like shimmying in the snow and then it

1:00:47.120 --> 1:00:50.680
<v Speaker 1>says up, Yeah, that's good. I think the one is

1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:54.080
<v Speaker 1>there's an animated penguin that waves and says hello, Oh

1:00:54.200 --> 1:00:56.080
<v Speaker 1>that's cute, very cute. How would you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Tanais like, Okay, maybe I'm just not unders standing these

1:01:00.560 --> 1:01:02.200
<v Speaker 1>jokes now that I like think back on some of

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<v Speaker 1>my opening lines and like maybe just google them or something.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing too, I feel I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes people take it too seriously. Yeah, and so if

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<v Speaker 1>you're able to make light of everything, then it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of is like, okay, like this is gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>fun conversation instead of like, oh, we're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>on a date and potentially fall in love and get married.

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<v Speaker 1>For this, obviously everyone wants that, but by like putting

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<v Speaker 1>so much pressure on you on the so early on too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what were some of the worst ones you've gotten?

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<v Speaker 1>Like something about Starburst. It was something like if you

1:01:26.800 --> 1:01:29.120
<v Speaker 1>were if if you were, if I was eating Starburst,

1:01:29.160 --> 1:01:30.960
<v Speaker 1>you'd be my red one or something, and I was like,

1:01:31.640 --> 1:01:33.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe that was a joke. I didn't understand. I deleted.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's not bad because everyone loves the red Starburst.

1:01:38.400 --> 1:01:41.240
<v Speaker 1>And then there was one that was very persumptuous breakfast

1:01:41.320 --> 1:01:44.160
<v Speaker 1>for dinner, something about how do you like your eggs

1:01:44.160 --> 1:01:46.640
<v Speaker 1>in morning? Or breakfast for dinner? Question mark and I

1:01:46.720 --> 1:01:51.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, maybe I'm maybe I'm missing something. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you should put yourself in their position and think

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they're just trying something different to get your attention. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I was saying with this question. I imagine

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that sign up that are like guys,

1:02:00.360 --> 1:02:03.640
<v Speaker 1>are also like kind of introvert or having trouble connecting,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they get messaged from these women and they're

1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:08.520
<v Speaker 1>also being like, oh God, someone actually messaged me. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you have people that are out there trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get everyone. But then I'll see how people are probably

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know how to respond either, And when

1:02:14.080 --> 1:02:15.600
<v Speaker 1>when it's such a numbers game and the net is

1:02:15.640 --> 1:02:17.000
<v Speaker 1>cast so wide, I think the best thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>can do is do something NIC's unique to make you

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<v Speaker 1>stand out. Hopefully that was helpful for Megan. You're I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're like, you're obviously a beautiful person, and I'm

1:02:26.400 --> 1:02:27.920
<v Speaker 1>sure that that is the first thing that they noticed.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean you should be more than just saying, hey, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I am going to step up my game.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think some advice to give Megan is,

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<v Speaker 1>aside from dating apps, I think asking your friends to

1:02:42.360 --> 1:02:45.959
<v Speaker 1>set you up is a really good call. You're leaving

1:02:46.040 --> 1:02:48.480
<v Speaker 1>dating apps and just getting well not leaving them. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to um asking your you don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>she's a PhD student. Imagine she has a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people in I won't name her, but so well, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>don't ask she's she used to be. She's like actually

1:03:03.480 --> 1:03:06.200
<v Speaker 1>best friends. Oh yeah, so she's single and she's like

1:03:06.280 --> 1:03:08.360
<v Speaker 1>looking to be introduced to someone. She like asked me,

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, do you have any friends that you can

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<v Speaker 1>introduce me to, and I think that. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to introduce it any of my friends

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<v Speaker 1>because all my friends are morons. Well that's fine, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's totally fine. Then you don't accept okay, but that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you don't set her up. But if they have somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of you know, a lot of people don't,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, no, like I wanna want to say it

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<v Speaker 1>with any of these freaks, but a lot of people do.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh my gosh, yeah, I do have somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that I could set you up with, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>people really like to do that, especially for the friends.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he gets awkward though, and it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't work out. Everyone keeps hanging out and they're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing too, especially because nas is such an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible person, so I would want to set her up

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<v Speaker 1>with my most incredible friend, and I'm like, too good

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<v Speaker 1>for all of my friends by far. So it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do that, but I'm glad that you care

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<v Speaker 1>about her that much. That's cool. This is from a

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<v Speaker 1>woman who calls herself first Date blunder Woman. Hi Deane

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<v Speaker 1>Hi mark anyone else is in the studio. I was

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<v Speaker 1>having trouble finding guys that are mentally and physically attractive,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when it comes to meeting guts some dating apps,

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<v Speaker 1>it's tough to meet guys outside of the ugly bar

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<v Speaker 1>scene or work. Recently, I went on date with a

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<v Speaker 1>guy I met on a dating app. I'm twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>he's twenty six. I had low expectations going into it,

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<v Speaker 1>and surprisingly it turned out so well. He would even

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<v Speaker 1>say things of how he's so glad it wasn't a catfish,

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<v Speaker 1>and how he could tell we were going to get

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<v Speaker 1>along when he looked into my eyes. Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about where we came from, the places we've traveled,

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<v Speaker 1>and the goals for the future. He even asked to

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<v Speaker 1>get drinks at a bar after dinner. I thought things

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<v Speaker 1>were going great. We had so much chemistry, but I

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<v Speaker 1>also haven't heard from him since the date we kissed.

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<v Speaker 1>It was electric. Why would I not hear from him?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I read the signs incorrectly? Or is he at

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<v Speaker 1>a place with work and everything that he wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to pursue something. Thank you for your help. I suck

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<v Speaker 1>at dating. Maybe this is Jared and he just has

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<v Speaker 1>four other I mean, that's the only thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>could really think of. I don't have a good feeling

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<v Speaker 1>about this. I'm sorry. I think you felt that spark.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure he did. Yeah, well, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a long time for me. But I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>like in situations like this, it sucks. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know from the tone of it, the way it's being described.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the best thing you could do is just

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<v Speaker 1>try to forget about move on. I don't even think

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<v Speaker 1>forget about it. He went on a wonderful date, You

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<v Speaker 1>had a great time, You had an electrifying kiss. Think

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<v Speaker 1>of that. I think of that as like a positive,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can't have these feelings whatever. For some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>you can never know what's going on with the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He might be dealing with family. I mean I always

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<v Speaker 1>go to like, it's never you with them, But you

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<v Speaker 1>might have family issues. He might be going through a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stress at work. He might have met somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else and likes them better. You know, you don't ever

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<v Speaker 1>know what's happening. But the fact that you were able

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<v Speaker 1>to have enjoy yourself and have a really great date,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good sign it is and you'll learn from it. Dating.

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<v Speaker 1>Dating is a good thing to practice even if it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the one. And clearly he's not the one. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's just too busy at work. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't think he's into it. I think she feel bad,

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<v Speaker 1>that says blunder woman, Like I don't think she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong. Of course, I think she should continue to

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<v Speaker 1>have low expectations though, right, that was good. It's my

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<v Speaker 1>word of advice because that's that way. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's weird because she went from having low expectations to

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<v Speaker 1>calling the kiss electric and now she's upset about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you kind of like maintain the expectations until

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<v Speaker 1>something actually like formulated from it. I feel bad because

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<v Speaker 1>she sounds like she's met a lot of frogs looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a prince, finally gets a guy okay great, finally

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<v Speaker 1>gets to go out with okay, great, it goes so well,

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<v Speaker 1>like she finally gets one's one though exactly, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good point. She's when she's twenty two, she can go

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bachelor, just like back. There's a quote that

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<v Speaker 1>this makes me think of, and it's, um, I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>trying to try out to mess this one up. It's um,

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<v Speaker 1>you never do this right, Um okay, Uh, don't be

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<v Speaker 1>be open to the possibility but not attached to the outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Very nice. I think you got it, Thank you. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it because you're open to the possibility of a

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<v Speaker 1>great relationship when you're going on a date, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>not attached to the outcome. So if you don't hear

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<v Speaker 1>from again. I think that also has to do with

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<v Speaker 1>being present, because so many people are like dates going well,

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<v Speaker 1>good job, the date's going well, and they're immediately like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we getting next day? It's like slowdowns, be here,

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the moment. And by the way, she may have

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<v Speaker 1>heard from him since she sent this email. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the hard thing for someone like a Jared too,

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<v Speaker 1>is if he's dating four or five girls on the

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<v Speaker 1>same app at the same time. I'm sure he's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the one that's responsible for, uh, deciding where to go

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<v Speaker 1>for the dates. I'm sure he's probably like recycling a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the date ideas, like that Master of None episode.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like in the at the same bar every Tuesday, Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>Friday night, meeting a girl doing the exact same thing

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again, like it's boring and redundant and old. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>do you even watch the show? Is the second time

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<v Speaker 1>you brought it up. It's a good show. It's on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it covers like a lot of like the

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<v Speaker 1>modern dable dating struggles. It depends on how you feel

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<v Speaker 1>about us. He's on Sorry this week? Are you okay

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<v Speaker 1>with this week? Oh? Yeah, I guess some stuff came

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<v Speaker 1>out about him. Some stuff came out, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting thing because it came out. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you see the headline like up, his career is over,

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<v Speaker 1>just like every other career is over. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>read the article. I think, oh, well, hmm, this one's

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<v Speaker 1>not quite as cut and dried as a Kevin Spacey

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<v Speaker 1>or a Harvey weinsteiner all these other ones. C K.

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<v Speaker 1>This one's a little bit more her opinion, his opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>What she says is of course valid and respected and

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<v Speaker 1>how she feels as legitimate. But is it is it

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<v Speaker 1>should have cost him his career? To me, as he's

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<v Speaker 1>on Sorry, it sounds like he was a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a dick on this date, which we've all experienced. I

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<v Speaker 1>think so yeah, I think so many people are focused

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<v Speaker 1>on the legal bit of stuff with like the more

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<v Speaker 1>extreme people, but now I have to move into like

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<v Speaker 1>a social bit of like are you being a considerate person?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you considering the other person? Or you president not

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about only what you want and not defending in

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<v Speaker 1>seasons all right at all? Because I don't really know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I should probably be more aware of

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<v Speaker 1>pop culture and the things that are going on around

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<v Speaker 1>in this I would read up about this one. This

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<v Speaker 1>one was really an interesting whatever everbody had a different

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<v Speaker 1>and the James Frankly stuff too, that's an interesting one too. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was just thinking when I was when The

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor was airing, there was this girl that I diated

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<v Speaker 1>for like three weeks in college, was like commenting on

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<v Speaker 1>all these posts or something like saying like, oh, Dean's

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<v Speaker 1>a bad guy. Um, he like doesn't deserve any of

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<v Speaker 1>this all that kind of stuff. And I texted her,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, why are you Like, what's I thought, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's wrong? Why are you so angry at me for

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<v Speaker 1>for not doing anything? She's like, when we dated in college,

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<v Speaker 1>you were a jerk and you said this and did this.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, we dated for three weeks. We

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<v Speaker 1>went on two or three dates. Um, it clearly didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work out very well between the two of us. I

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty years old. Like, there's the fact that you're

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<v Speaker 1>like remembering everything so horribly. It's just like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make sense. And so for maybe these people like in

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<v Speaker 1>the Seasons are you James frankl Again, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what they did. I don't like I'm not defending them

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<v Speaker 1>by any means, but when people remember things, they tend

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<v Speaker 1>to like exaggerate them a little bit and make them

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<v Speaker 1>seem worse than they actually are. Well, there's three sides

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<v Speaker 1>every story. Yeah, your side of his side, and the

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<v Speaker 1>truth kind of thing. That's exactly right. And maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 1>remembering things through rose colored glasses where I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>think I ever had that negative relationship with anyone. But

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<v Speaker 1>when I don't know, a sour girl that you took

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<v Speaker 1>on two dates sees you on TV, she gets upset

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<v Speaker 1>about something. Okay, one more, this is a good one, sayer,

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<v Speaker 1>lovely name, beautiful. Uh. This week's topic was really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>about breakups. In the first one with Ashley had talked

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<v Speaker 1>about long distance I have been living in Madrid for

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<v Speaker 1>the past four years, which has been really interesting for

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<v Speaker 1>dating anyway, Here's my question. I met my boyfriend last year.

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<v Speaker 1>He was studying abroad in Madrid, where I was. He

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<v Speaker 1>was from Germany and he was my roommate. A week

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<v Speaker 1>after we met, we were spending every night together and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the roommates were fine with it. When

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<v Speaker 1>he had to go back home at the end of June,

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<v Speaker 1>we had to talk about long distance and decided to

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<v Speaker 1>try it. It's been surprisingly great. We see each other

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<v Speaker 1>once a month. We talk a lot. We just spent

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas together and had good, serious talks about next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my question. Should I move to Germany to be

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<v Speaker 1>with him? He has two more years of school Definistiones masters.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be done with my master's in international education at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of July and help to find a job

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<v Speaker 1>at an international school. If I can find a job

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<v Speaker 1>in Germany, that's great. If not, what do I do?

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<v Speaker 1>That's sair Well, don't take our advice to Germany. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think most of these situations, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it. Do what's best for you, and if

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<v Speaker 1>they're along for the ride and that they can fit

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<v Speaker 1>into what's best for you, great, But Honestly, this one

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<v Speaker 1>seems perfect. She has as she's gonna have a master's

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<v Speaker 1>in international education. You feel like it, like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>that he's giving her the pie and the spoon. What what?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the classic pine you had it? You had that

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<v Speaker 1>one expression. You couldn't just leave well enough alone. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be someone's bumble openings like can stand it?

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<v Speaker 1>Always leave the room on a high note. I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, moved to Germany. Germany's Germany's economy is doing well.

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<v Speaker 1>As a teacher out there if that's what you're looking for,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can always move home. I don't know why not.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like once you graduate, you're a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a free agent anyway. You can go wherever you want

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<v Speaker 1>in the world with that degree. It's not like she's

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<v Speaker 1>in a job in a great job of her promotion,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is kind of her time to make a move.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to tell this story when I moved to

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles my current wife girlfriend at the time. We've

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<v Speaker 1>only been together six months, and I knew I was

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<v Speaker 1>moving when we met. So from day one we knew

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<v Speaker 1>that we got six months here. Let's make the most

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Because end of February, I'm gone. And we

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<v Speaker 1>had an amazing six months and we feel very much

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<v Speaker 1>in love and it was very, very difficult to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>But we never said we're breaking up, and we never

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<v Speaker 1>said we're gonna try a long distance. We just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really say. So I came out to California. She was

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<v Speaker 1>still in Wisconsin, and we would talk a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>times a week see how things were going. And then

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<v Speaker 1>she said to me, Hey, my aunt and uncle live

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<v Speaker 1>in Huntington's Beach, so I'm in California. They've given me

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<v Speaker 1>the offer that I can stay with them, so I

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<v Speaker 1>can go out there and we can be together. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what she wanted from me was yeah, And sadly, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to admit that wasn't my reaction. And I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you why, because I've been trying to get over her

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<v Speaker 1>for a good month and a half two months at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, trying to put my mind in other things,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to move on with my life. And the other

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<v Speaker 1>feeling was if she moves out here, there are two

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<v Speaker 1>ways for this to end. We get married we've a

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<v Speaker 1>lily been together six months, or it ends really badly

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<v Speaker 1>and her family hates me, pulled her across the country

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<v Speaker 1>and actually goes back to Wisconsin. It's it was really

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<v Speaker 1>scary for me that those were the only two outcomes. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>long story show, she came out to visit for a

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<v Speaker 1>week and it was the greatest week ever, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was then I was all on board, and I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>happy she did because we've been together now for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I feel like it may scare him a

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<v Speaker 1>bit that you're lifting up your life and moving to

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<v Speaker 1>another part of the world for him, because that puts

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pressure on him and on the relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what scared me so much. But I also just

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<v Speaker 1>think that if you can go anywhere in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't you go to where this guy is and

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<v Speaker 1>you and spin it with him however you want. Like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I got this great job. It's just kind of right

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<v Speaker 1>near you, and that's gonna be okay. And even if

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work out, I've got my thing, You've got

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<v Speaker 1>your thing, and it's gonna be fine. Yeah, Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work out. She's in Germany with tons of other people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Yeah, very well educated. That's funny. You just

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<v Speaker 1>exactly described a situation that I had um too. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like there's two things that could happen in the relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>You either get married or ends horribly and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want I mean, obviously you want to get married for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years and have it and that like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like a daunting idea to even like come

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<v Speaker 1>to terms with and be like, well, because she was nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's and so so mentally we're about the same

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<v Speaker 1>level of maturity and so neither one of us is

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<v Speaker 1>ready to get married. So that added to some of

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<v Speaker 1>the fear too. And just like the idea of someone

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<v Speaker 1>moving somewhere for you, it's kind of scary as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because you kind of almost feel like you might let

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<v Speaker 1>them down a little bit. My girlfriend, my girlfriend moved

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<v Speaker 1>from New York to be with me in California or here,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. So did you feel pressure with that? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean yeah, I mean I just want everything to work out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like career wise, and so I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a you know, you never know what if it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen or not, and you work really hard

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<v Speaker 1>at it. But I am positive, I remain positive, so

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully it works out. And I think she's still happy,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's good. Well, four years together, four years and

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<v Speaker 1>three the twentieth so it's kind of even getting towards

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<v Speaker 1>that time. I'm thinking, we are you gonna pop the question? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't talk about that. Come on, Mark and I

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<v Speaker 1>are Tanya and are all pouring their souls out on

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I've been here and we've been talking.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been fun. Okay that four years? Oh, no way,

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<v Speaker 1>four years in Okay, I was waiting for I was

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for four years. Have you too discussed it? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you looked at rings together? That's good. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like that. The shopping papering together. I think that's on you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I would ask. Yeah, yeah, it should be.

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<v Speaker 1>It should be you know, maybe surprise is the wrong word,

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<v Speaker 1>but something of a surprise when you actually decide to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. She should be surprised. I would, I would hope.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, um, okay. Well, what I think that we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get enough of was name suggestions for the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I still stand by help Dating Sucks with Dean and Alert.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the modern dating one. Oh, Cassie says, what

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<v Speaker 1>if you just call it dating? Etcetera? With Dean, Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to. You're changing the name. Yes, he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to change the name. The powers that be may not

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<v Speaker 1>let him change. Help him. Okay, and I help dating sucks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I suggested. Yeah, yeah, I mean but again,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe after Winter Games Airs, we could get a special

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<v Speaker 1>someone to come in and talk about how much I

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<v Speaker 1>really do suck it dating. I think that would be

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<v Speaker 1>great if we get to that point. That's your job

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it going until Winter Games Airs, because that

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<v Speaker 1>will be a real let down expectations than that. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say, in this hypothetical situation, I would think that

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<v Speaker 1>things are going very well good. But this is all hypothetically,

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<v Speaker 1>hypothetically great. We're hypothetically happy for you. I'm hypothetically happy

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<v Speaker 1>for myself. Impothetically I'm legitimately happy no matter what. Thanks Taylor. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well that'll do it for episode fifteen of

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<v Speaker 1>Help I Suck at Dating. Um. If you have any

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<v Speaker 1>listener emails, you want, any stories you want to share

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<v Speaker 1>with us, submit them to I Suck at Dating at

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<v Speaker 1>dating at I heeart media dot com. Because there's two

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<v Speaker 1>acts in there. I don't want to confuse you. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>again to Taylor for coming in studio. Um, it's nice

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<v Speaker 1>to hang out again. I'm excited. Yes, um our friends. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>you jumped off the screen, all right, so yeah. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to to Alex for talking about Bumble a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>telling us about some profile tips, maybe some um pictures

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<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of stuff. And a big thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to a woman who doesn't get nearly enough credit

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<v Speaker 1>around here, the amazing Erica Solivan. She's behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>every day, smile on her face. She's just a real

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<v Speaker 1>gem and a real peach to have around um. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you get a subceal from her on Bumble, you

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<v Speaker 1>should respond because you want do you like when they

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<v Speaker 1>respond with gifts or do you want them to respond

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<v Speaker 1>with words? If you respond with the gift, then you

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<v Speaker 1>get kind of stuck in this weird like gift off.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone has to put an end to it eventually. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's that'll do it for episode fifteen. Help I

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<v Speaker 1>Suck at Dating? Thank you for listening. Tune in next

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