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Speaker 3: You like that? I hate that you moved on me.

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Speaker 1: Man. You know we had the hood change here, man,

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Speaker 1: messing up my intro, Man, you and not Rocket with

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Speaker 1: the best. I'm Heck Maharrison, And as usual at the

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Speaker 1: desk is a super Bowl champion. Now super Bowl champions

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Speaker 1: are now at the desk. Everson Walls is here, Nate

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Speaker 1: Newton has graced us with his presence this fine day.

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Speaker 1: And the guy that the show is named after, Mickey Specknole,

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Speaker 1: is in the building as well. And gentlemen, as I

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Speaker 1: always get an opportunity to host. Bill Jones is out

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Speaker 1: today because of breaking news in basketball land. Guys, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna start at the same and ask you how are

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Speaker 1: you today? And Mickey I will start with you, sir.

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Speaker 4: I am good. Good to be here with you guys.

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Speaker 4: Good to have Nate with us, Everson and yourself. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I am just fine.

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Speaker 1: All right, And Everson Wallas, how are you this morning?

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Speaker 5: I'm feeling fine. I'm a little bit unfinished. I got

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Speaker 5: people at my house.

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Speaker 1: You know. Oh, no golf this morning, putting man stuff.

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Speaker 3: No, no golf.

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Speaker 1: You know, I can always tell where you didn't play golf. No, no,

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Speaker 1: because your hand when you play off, your hands are

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Speaker 1: usually smoking. Only I can say that. We can say

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Speaker 1: I know where you've been playing badly.

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Speaker 3: I played.

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Speaker 1: Late Newton. How are you this morning? This afternoon, sir,

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Speaker 1: I am doing great. And uh I just now that

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Speaker 1: we're going to the playoffs, I'm excited and I'm just over.

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Speaker 1: I get the news flash we miss well what happened?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 1: Hold on? Now? Hold on, hold on, I ain't even

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Speaker 1: go down. Go ahead, on go do that, go ahead, god,

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Speaker 1: go there, We're here. The thoughts I got nine for

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Speaker 1: nine weeks. Is that if we use one of our

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Speaker 1: draft picks, that we were going to the playoffs. That's

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Speaker 1: what I thought. Now, So we went out and got

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Speaker 1: a beast of a young man and Quinny Williams and

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Speaker 1: a super smart, tough middle linebacker in Wilkins, and I

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Speaker 1: thought that was we was going to the playoffs. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: nobody's excited like me.

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Speaker 4: Well, who told you that?

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Speaker 1: But that's what everybody said before.

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Speaker 4: Well we ain't. Everybody.

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Speaker 1: The streets are talking, the streets are talking, the playoff

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Speaker 1: playoff podcasts are talking to everybody else. I'm sorry. That's

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Speaker 1: why I said. I tried to move on, but you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't let me, sir. Tried to move on because I

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Speaker 1: feel that you know this smart group of individuals, and

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Speaker 1: he didn't feel that way.

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Speaker 3: So, well, I must admit.

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Speaker 5: It's around nine thirty eight last night, right, I think

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Speaker 5: that's when the Heisman Trophy winner caught the past get

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Speaker 5: from Jalen Hurts, and I felt that our season was gone.

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Speaker 3: So I would, oh, well, is that what that meant?

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Speaker 1: I had no idea what, Oh well, that was a

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Speaker 1: four shoutout. Well, I guess that's it. I guess that's it,

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Speaker 1: because that's the team we're trying to catch, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: who is that? Are? We? Come on, mate, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be a dark clouds? Are you going today?

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Speaker 1: Built that way, born that way? Ye don't come here

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Speaker 1: with that? Did I not try to move on? Did

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Speaker 1: I not try to? And he said, don't do that?

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Speaker 1: we know that's not possible. We know that's not possible.

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Speaker 6: The thought was made it would be maybe easier to

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Speaker 6: catch one team than loop to then leap over four teams.

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Speaker 1: Okay, get in as a.

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Speaker 6: Final wild card, but that was predicated on them losing

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Speaker 1: Them move the Eagles.

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Speaker 6: To the Packers and losing to Detroit and losing to

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Speaker 1: So Mickey's Mickey's other boys couldn't help us last night.

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Speaker 1: Count he could And that's his team, y'all. We know

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Speaker 1: that's what we call him, his other boy, that's his

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Speaker 4: That gosh awful.

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Speaker 3: That was horrid, man.

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Speaker 4: Actually the whole game.

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Speaker 3: The whole game. That's why you could tell when when

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Speaker 3: they scored that touchdown, that was it. That was it.

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Speaker 3: They could answer, but they weren't gonna have two answers.

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Speaker 1: This is the new NFL, Felks.

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Speaker 3: And what does that mean?

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Speaker 4: Anything can happen.

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Speaker 1: No, this is the parody that the owners have been

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Speaker 1: working for. Okay, and I think the way Philadelphia won

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Speaker 1: last year going into it is the new NFL requires

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Speaker 1: that if if you don't have the elite quarterback, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna make sure our defense is sturdy and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have some type of running game, and we're gonna hit

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Speaker 1: you every now and then with a pass just to

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Speaker 1: keep the ball. It's not a lot of teams are

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Speaker 1: getting smart. We're not gonna keep wasting plays on down deep,

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Speaker 1: down deep. They're gonna go underneath. They're gonna get the

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Speaker 1: crowds and routes and and that is what beet Green

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Speaker 1: Bay last night, just being a little bit more sturdier,

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Speaker 1: being a little bit more tougher, running the ball at

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Speaker 1: the correct times. And this is a new NFL. I

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Speaker 1: can only do that with a good defense. Yeah, that's that,

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Speaker 1: thank you, with a good defense. Can you say that again?

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Speaker 3: You can only do that with a good defense.

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Speaker 1: And so when you have, your defense has to keep

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Speaker 1: giving you opportunity, yes, sir, to do that. Yes, otherwise,

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Speaker 1: if they don't hold, then you're falling behind. You gotta

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Speaker 1: change your game plan. Now you're throwing the ball off

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Speaker 1: and now you die the ugly death. Now you died

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Speaker 1: the ugly death. You ain't dying and on the streets.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying I mean that.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, anyone, I'm going to leave death alone. But Mickey,

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Speaker 1: go ahead on. Mickey got a lot of stuff written

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Speaker 1: in red over here, so there's a lot of that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of red. Right, Yeah, it was on fire.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what this day holds, but he's writing

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Speaker 4: The blue pens ran out of it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that was fire coming off that paper. You

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Speaker 1: did hear Jerry Jones on one five three the Fan

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Speaker 1: this morning? It is anything yesterday? Yes, so you had

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Speaker 1: you had a fo Jones the last. We won't hear it,

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Speaker 1: too bad. I can't be like them, But go ahead on.

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Speaker 6: We won't hear from Schottenheimer until tomorrow I have a

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Speaker 6: press conference, and we won't hear from the players until

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Speaker 6: Thursday when they get back and get into practice. So

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Speaker 6: they had a team meeting yesterday. We talked about it right.

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Speaker 1: Who's team meeting?

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Speaker 6: Shotten Himer finally addressed all the players. They brought him

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, okay, cool cool.

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Speaker 6: I understand that brought everybody in. They had their first

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Speaker 6: team meeting. I heard he was quite good on things

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Speaker 6: We'll hear from him tomorrow, like I said in the

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Speaker 4: I think will talk on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Anything taken from Jerry specifically about our two new acquisitions. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: He He pointed out that Williams Quinn Williams is comfortable

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Speaker 6: being in Dallas. He said the two guys they traded

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Speaker 6: fit right in. He talked about de Marvin Overshown being

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Speaker 4: So that was an update on that.

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Speaker 3: And where's Quinning from Alabama?

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Speaker 4: Alabama College?

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Speaker 3: You meant I meant.

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Speaker 1: No that Birmingham, Alabama.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And then Jerry pointed out mister Jones, mister Jones.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I just wanted to tell me. I call him

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Speaker 1: miss Jones.

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Speaker 4: I called him Jerry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't got it like that.

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Speaker 4: Of course, I've been with him for thirty six years.

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Speaker 1: I've been with him for thirty six years too, But

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Speaker 1: I ain't got it like that. Every time I see

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Speaker 1: be mister Jones. Go ahead.

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Speaker 4: You mean when you see him in the hallway, you

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir. Sometimes I call him coach boy. That really

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Speaker 1: make him smile. I know, I know how, don't I

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Speaker 1: know how? He kiss up boy?

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Speaker 6: And better than when Jesse Solomon arrived late, he called

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Speaker 1: Was you in the locker room? Was you?

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Speaker 4: He did it out on.

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Speaker 1: That day? Right there? Man with Jared looked around.

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Speaker 3: I was not there for that.

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Speaker 1: I was there. I was like, oh wow, but anyway,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, and we don't want to Yeah, we don't

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Speaker 6: So he pointed out that they felt pretty good about

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Speaker 6: the late hooker being able to return, and I think

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Speaker 6: last week, before any of this stuff happened, Schottenheimer thought

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Speaker 6: both safeties would be back and which would help greatly

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Speaker 6: with communication on defense instead of playing. So they played

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Speaker 6: two backups in the past game, and the one before

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Speaker 6: So he hoping that those two guys coming back will

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Speaker 6: maybe they can be.

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Speaker 4: Okay on defense.

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Speaker 6: You hope better, but I'm just hoping for okay instead

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Speaker 6: of thirty first in every defensive category as they have been,

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Speaker 6: which I think rubs off on what you're doing on

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Speaker 6: offense because now you don't take unnecessary chances, no doubt.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you settle for a field goal instead of going

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Speaker 3: Well, Well that's the that's the NFL that Nate's talking about.

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Speaker 3: You know this.

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Speaker 5: You can talk about offense is all you want. You

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: When it comes down to it, guys.

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Speaker 5: Basic, the NFL to me, is still all about playing

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Speaker 5: good defense.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is always been.

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Speaker 1: We have the guys, other backs, wide receivers, all of

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442
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Speaker 1: at that part in the season where we have this

443
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Speaker 1: extra special wide receiver. Let's take advantage of that.

444
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Speaker 5: What say you, Well, it's kind of hard to be

445
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Speaker 5: balanced in that regard. As far as I'm concerned, I

446
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 5: wouldn't worry about balance. I was just worry about need.

447
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 5: I look at Pickens as and I've said before not dware,

448
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 5: but there's Bryan type of player. If it's one on one,

449
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 5: you're not gonna stop him. If the ball is fifty

450
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 5: to fifty, it's his. You look at Ceedee Lamb. You're

451
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Speaker 5: talking about a guy that can route you up. There's

452
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Speaker 5: a difference between the guy who's fifty to fifty and

453
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Speaker 5: the guy that can route you up.

454
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Speaker 1: The guy that's fifty to fifty, he gonna run routes.

455
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Speaker 1: He just wants to just bother you up, make the

456
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Speaker 1: play over you. When you're talking about this guy like

457
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Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, man, he's gonna set you up with all

458
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Speaker 1: kind of moves. But the problem I see with that

459
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Speaker 1: at times, when you press someone like CD, it takes

460
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Speaker 1: a little bit more of a risk looking for him

461
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Speaker 1: down the field. When you get someone pressed on pickings

462
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: right away, you know where you're going.

463
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Speaker 3: So I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: I hope that he does get more catches in crucial situations.

465
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Speaker 5: I like CD on first and first and first downs

466
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Speaker 5: and second downs.

467
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Speaker 3: I like pickings all the time. I like him especially

468
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Speaker 3: when we need him in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: I like him when we need him down in the

470
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Speaker 1: goal line, and I like him when we need to

471
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Speaker 1: move those chains on fourth down.

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Speaker 5: He is a clutch receiver because of the hands and

473
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Speaker 5: the strength that he has in his arms.

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Speaker 6: So when they were averaging forty points a game, was

475
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Speaker 6: there something wrong?

476
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Speaker 3: No, No defensive.

477
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Speaker 4: Defensive caught up his last two games?

478
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Speaker 6: Or is the offensive line not giving Dak the ability

479
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Speaker 6: to stand in the pocket and decide have enough time

480
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Speaker 6: to do?

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Speaker 1: Can both things be true? Can both things be true?

482
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Speaker 1: What's that d defensive? Have defenses made an adjustment and

483
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Speaker 1: the fact that offensive line has struggled over the last

484
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Speaker 1: couple of games?

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Speaker 6: Will I think we'll have an answer to that Monday night,

486
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Speaker 6: because the Raiders are struggling right now. If they fouled

487
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Speaker 6: some blueprint that somebody else set out there, then yeah,

488
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 6: it's the latter. But before that, no one made a

489
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Speaker 6: big deal on who was getting the ball. They were

490
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Speaker 6: both and they were scoring forty points a game. So

491
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Speaker 6: I don't know that you got to go into the

492
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Speaker 6: game and say he's getting ten targets. He's getting five targets.

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Speaker 1: Play football head coach has already settled that he don't

494
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Speaker 1: He don't call schemes. He calls players, players or plays.

495
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Speaker 1: So he's already settled that the thing we have here

496
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Speaker 1: fellas we don't have one issue, and this issue is

497
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Speaker 1: not a good enough offensive line. And I'll go back

498
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Speaker 1: to last night. AJ Brown is the guy for Philadelphia,

499
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: but who made the plays?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

501
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Speaker 1: Was it not the other guy making the plays? The

502
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: coach saw something, so he made a chessments. It's a

503
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Speaker 1: chess match. This ain't high school, this ain't a high

504
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Speaker 1: level college. It's a chess match. So now he's like, Okay,

505
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Speaker 1: I know what AJ gonna write today, but I need

506
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Speaker 1: to win this game tonight. I know what they gonna

507
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: say about CD, but right now George is giving me

508
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Speaker 1: what I need. Oh okay, they doubling. George ain't gonna

509
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Speaker 1: mess it with that. CD wropped him up. It's just

510
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: whatever the coaches want to be done, but you're not

511
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: gonna accomplish none of that until this offensive line get better.

512
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Speaker 1: I don't care what you do.

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Speaker 3: And I miss bags talked about this earlier. I just seen.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's because they played against better defensive lineman,

515
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Speaker 1: a better defensive front.

516
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Speaker 3: Wrong or right?

517
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: Talk to me when you like these last two games

518
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Speaker 1: that we talked about.

519
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Speaker 3: Was it just was it but if we weren't paying

520
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Speaker 3: well together? Or was it just that we played.

521
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Speaker 1: Against the hell of a defensive When you play against

522
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: a better defensive line, and I and I challenge him

523
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: that all the time. Say what happens when you play

524
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: against equal a better talent. If this defensive unit is

525
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: better than your offensive line unit, you gonna catch it

526
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: all day because dak ain't got so much Hudni in it.

527
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: So boom you, Carolina, that's a better defence. I don't

528
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Speaker 1: care who you who we put up from. We said

529
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: that's a better defensive line with Come on, man, they

530
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: got forty something sacks right now, and no matter who

531
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: they done played, they got forty something sacks. So when

532
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: they say you know what we're gonna take, ready to

533
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: run and we're gonna make you pass this thing, we're

534
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: gonna eat you alive. They done did it to everybody.

535
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: It don't matter until your offensive line get healthy and

536
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: play together. Now, we can't be started. Told you this.

537
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: We can't be stopped outside, you can't. You cannot be stopped.

538
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: The only thing that can stop you is your office line. Nate.

539
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: If you throw thirty six passes, how many of those

540
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: passes are going to CD Lamb and George Pickens? If

541
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: you throw thirty six, just split them up. I don't

542
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: care if I throw thirty six passes, split him up.

543
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: I don't care.

544
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 3: Just needs to go to one of the two.

545
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, don't throw floor nor I mean I've

546
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: always seen that's way. Y'all know me. Y'all know me.

547
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't believe in the backup theory. Because I don't

548
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: believe in the backup theory. I'm sorry. I ain't gonna

549
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: never be believe in that. I believe in. If you got

550
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: then look at him, man, If I'm an owner and

551
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm looking, if you spending my money and everybody's my man,

552
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: sign sign George signed you, and I'm able to sign George,

553
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: and then we leave that we have a three game

554
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: stretch and George don't get me sixteen attempts. Hold on, now, hey, Iver,

555
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: was man, you got to talking on what is wrong?

556
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: If CD got twelve. Hey, bro, and we because we

557
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: better have three victories. We better have three victories. You

558
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: when you pay people, are you got to give it

559
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: to the stars? Last night? The stars won the game.

560
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: Not not the third team guy. I mean, I love

561
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: you flowing on. I love you, I really do.

562
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 6: But now, bro, sorry, nor the guy making forty seven

563
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 6: million a year, who is that?

564
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: Now?

565
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 4: Somebody should have had a sack last night.

566
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not going at that kid. That kid

567
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: played the game in one. He played the game and the.

568
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Speaker 3: Negotiation.

569
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he played the game and one. No.

570
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 4: No, but I'm saying what you just said.

571
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: If you if you get paid that type of money,

572
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: money you should get, yes, sir, yes sir. But you

573
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Speaker 1: know what, when you have a talent like that, When

574
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: you have a talent like that, shouldn't the other guys

575
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: that's running free make a play too? Somebody? Somebody? My

576
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: thing is this here? I made up in my mind.

577
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: There's certain guys. I'm through it. I attacked this kid

578
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: while he was here. He's somebody else problem.

579
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Speaker 6: Now he like Stephen Jones, Yeah, he's in I can't

580
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 6: I believe that's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's you know, I mean, we he gone. Man, God

582
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: be with that kid man for real, I'll be. But

583
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Speaker 1: what I need now is for Quinn Williams. What I

584
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: need now is for Clark to make to make our

585
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: team better. These are the two defense alignment that I'm

586
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: depending on, Kenny Clark and Quinn Williams. They gonna make

587
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: us better. That's what I'm depending on.

588
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 5: But but, and I'm still pessimistic. I don't think that

589
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 5: it will amount to us getting into the playoffs this year.

590
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 5: I cannot see Philadelphia pulling another.

591
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: Houdini act like in disappearing and disappear in the part

592
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Speaker 1: of the season.

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Speaker 3: Guys, this team is well coached. Uh, they're well led.

594
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: And when you win games like you won last night,

595
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: that lets you know you can win any type of game.

596
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: Just win.

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Speaker 3: Just win.

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Speaker 1: Graham, get up off the couch. Off the couch, and

599
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Speaker 1: Phillips comes in for Miami.

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Speaker 3: Immediate, immediated impact.

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Speaker 1: Come on. Makes it to your point. You have a

602
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Speaker 1: Jalen Carter in the middle of that defense and now

603
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Speaker 1: the Eagles defensive line and you can see him in

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Speaker 1: one on one and what made him the draft pick

606
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Speaker 1: that he was just because of the impact you know,

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Speaker 1: of having a guy, a tone setter in the middle

608
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Speaker 1: of that defensive line. But hey, you guys agreed with

609
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Speaker 1: me on the targets for George Pickens. By the way,

610
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Speaker 1: y'all just had a bunch of words to say where

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I heard. It's totally get your honey, bond Man.

660
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: You was right say save my fatness, Yeah, heave my fatness.

661
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: That made it, made it, made it in Vold made

662
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah for guys to be three hundred pounds in the league.

663
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: In greasy you could you have dealt with the steroid dude, like,

664
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: what's his name, Mandrick mandrick Man, Madrick Man. That's his

665
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: hard man. I'm not hard. He got he got the league, man,

666
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: he got him, he got paid. He got him.

667
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 6: Bro. So when you showed up, who was the next

668
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 6: heaviest offensive lineman.

669
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: And Crawford kerb about about two seventy eight. Yeah, that's

670
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: all crowd waight Yeah about to seventy eight, it was

671
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: so huge, man, Yeah, just full of water. That's what

672
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: Roy's dude, full of water. I mean, you know who

673
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: Madre's best friend is, right, the dermatologists. Yeah, bolls you

674
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: a round. You know I had a fat brother. He

675
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: had a ball problem. Yeah, it's your fight out of

676
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: balls dogs, yea.

677
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 4: God offered for big Daddy.

678
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: Big Daddy seventy eight to eighty. Hey, they called him

679
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: skinny in the league.

680
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 4: Now Tom Rafferty was still playing center.

681
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

682
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: To sixty to sixty, Gogan was my man. Gold was

683
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: my dude.

684
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, go go put on some weight.

685
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: Now he was over three, right, yeah, Gold, Yeah we

686
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: were both fighting that weight. Man.

687
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 4: He showed up and he yeah, wasn't no three.

688
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: Gold was fighting everybody.

689
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: Well, I know it was up in the mountains walking

690
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: trying to lose that weight. Go said, man, you want

691
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: some of that? I said, no. Two week ladies suspended.

692
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 9: Me some.

693
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Gog Yeah he got your back, bro. So Mick,

694
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: I got to ask you, what would a win in

695
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: Las Vegas mean to this team? Mean? For this team

696
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: emotionally and competitively? If they were able to get a win.

697
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it would remind them that, Okay, we've

698
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 6: got to play football. And I was going to ask you, guys,

699
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 6: I mean, I think it would mean a lot emotionally.

700
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 6: But if you pull out the head coach manual, it

701
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 6: probably doesn't say here's how you deal with what happened, right,

702
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 6: So what would you tell the guys to all of

703
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 6: a sudden switch, turn the switch to saying football is important?

704
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 6: Because I think that's going to be the difficult thing

705
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 6: they have to face.

706
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 4: I don't know what you do. What do you say

707
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: if you're coaching that team.

708
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. I know, you know when you

709
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: start talking about football. Football is a lifeline for a

710
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: lot of these guys, you know. I mean, some of

711
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: them don't graduate from college, have an opportunity to better

712
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: themselves through sports. I know that's what I did when

713
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: I was in high school, having some I did graduate.

714
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: But I was also having some issues.

715
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 5: At home, in the community and things of that nature.

716
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 5: And you know, football was something that kind of.

717
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: Brought structure to my life and I really needed that

718
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: at that time, especially my senior year in high school.

719
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: I didn't played my junior year, didn't play any sports.

720
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: Uh, and then all of a sudden, I'm playing football

721
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: for Bugnam High School. And it gave me some type

722
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: of sense of responsibility and purpose and and like I said,

723
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: some structure. So you know, this is something that guys

724
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: in the locker room need to understand that you know,

725
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: it's okay to lean on one of your fellow teammates.

726
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: You know, you don't don't go out somewhere you know

727
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: and and feel that you need to be by yourself.

728
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 5: Sometimes you don't need to be by yourself. Sometimes you

729
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 5: need to be with your teammates. And because you guys

730
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 5: understand together, you know exactly what y'all are going through.

731
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 5: And sometimes, man, you know, just to be simple. Misery

732
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 5: loves company, it really does. It's it's better for you

733
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 5: if you feel in that way, for you to understand that,

734
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 5: you know, you got guys in this locker room that

735
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 5: are you know, they're on your side. They're on your side,

736
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 5: not just on the field, but we're talking about when

737
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 5: you're talking about something like this, this situation when all

738
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 5: the guys have to come together and understand and commiserate,

739
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 5: that's something that you know, you don't want to think about,

740
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 5: but it is necessary at times.

741
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 6: I thought Jerry hit two Jones hit two chords this morning,

742
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 6: one talking about how Marshawn's death sort of sends a

743
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,959
Speaker 6: message out there that if you need help, the get help.

744
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 6: The other thing about playing football again, he said, so

745
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 6: you go back to work in memory of what Marshawn

746
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 6: Neelan was about, like, go play in his memory to

747
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 6: show that, you know, he was one of those guys.

748
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 6: And I remember talking to you know, people have interviewed

749
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 6: Greg Ellis, because Ellis was the defensive line coach last year,

750
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 6: and the first thing Ellis said was that the player

751
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 6: reminded him not only of himself, but to Marcus Lawrence

752
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 6: played hard, perpetual motion and could play the position not

753
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 6: just as a guy seeking sacks, but a guy that

754
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 6: was playing football that would play the run. And so

755
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 6: when Jerry said that, you know you're kind of going

756
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 6: out there and work in memory of him, I said, well,

757
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 6: that probably would resonate.

758
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

759
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 4: I was just trying to think, how else do you get.

760
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 6: These guys out of the malay they're probably in right now,

761
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 6: and I think the good thing maybe there's time. I

762
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 6: don't know, because the last two times that's happened here,

763
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 6: they had to play the game the next day and

764
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 6: they did.

765
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

766
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 6: So yeah, this is a kind of a touchy thing.

767
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 6: And I don't know, Like I said, there's no manual. Well,

768
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 6: this is the way you handle it, right, the emotional

769
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 6: part of it, because when you play its emotion right, it's.

770
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: Got to stuff from the individual, it has to stuff

771
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: from the Yeah, one guy, you got to understand how

772
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: important you are to this team and to your family.

773
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: That's it into life itself and to your family, into

774
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: life just itself. And so that's that, you know, we

775
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: gotta realize, you know, and I talked about this. We

776
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: talked about this yesterday. You know, there are guys out there. Man,

777
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: we don't know what they're going through. And I'm not

778
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: just talking about got in the locker room. We talked

779
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: about this yesterday.

780
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 5: We're talking about people walking in this building, people that

781
00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: work in this building.

782
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: You know.

783
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 5: It kind of brings a light to just individual problems

784
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 5: that people have. And so as we sit here in critique,

785
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 5: we talked about this yesterday. We sit here critique, you know,

786
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 5: we don't necessarily think about all the ramifications of what

787
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 5: our words might mean to another player. But when it's

788
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 5: all saying done, that individual player has to believe in

789
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 5: himself and he has to believe that he has a

790
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 5: teammate that he can depend on whether and that teammate.

791
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: Don't have to be in the locker room. It could

792
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: be out here, it could be at home. You see,

793
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: For me, it's a spiritual thing. For me, you know,

794
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: I have something that's higher that shows me that I'm

795
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: very important. So you know, I tell people, you know,

796
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: I stay away from that spiritual thing because it runs

797
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: folks away who don't understand. And it's the hower being

798
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: that I worship. So when I see a guy like

799
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: Marshawn go through what he just went through, it's final.

800
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: You don't have a second chance, and the people that

801
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: you leave behind need you. And so that's what I

802
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: try to tell people that listening to me. However, you

803
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: got to find that balance. Find that balance, because one

804
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: thing is for sure, it's no tomorrow. That thing brings

805
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: no tomorrow. But if you can find a friend or

806
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: something that you believe in that can bring tomorrow, now

807
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: you can start to work your problems out. People say, well,

808
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: the monster's in your head. I don't know I'm sorry,

809
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: I don't know the monsters in your head unless you

810
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: tell me. So far as what I'm telling my team

811
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: here today, going tomorrow, and it could be death is ugly,

812
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: no matter whether it's car wreck, whether it's suicide, whether

813
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: it's just walking down the street and somebody do something

814
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: crazy to you. But if you got a chance to

815
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: walk through these doors, walk on that field, you be

816
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: the best you can be. Yeah, that's all you do.

817
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: I've heard several people in the media say that Brian

818
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: Schottenheimer is the perfect coach for this situation that's happened.

819
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: And I've had every time i've heard that statement of

820
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: our brow raised because what does Like Micky just said,

821
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: there's no manual to something tragic like this happening. You know,

822
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: I feel like, just on my part as a head coach,

823
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: he's got a call to all of those guys out

824
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: there to unite whatever was going on before, you know,

825
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: and where you're going in the future as a team,

826
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: because unfortunately, unfortunately we got a game on money and life.

827
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: We still we still have and and although the NFL

828
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: and everybody mourns with us, we are in a win

829
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: business and that's not going to stop anything. And so

830
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: Brian Schachtneimer, in his first year as a coach, has

831
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: been thrown a very serious situation, man, And I'm, for one,

832
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see the way that he galvanizes

833
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: these players through this, because, man, this has got to

834
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: be this has got to be something tough that they're

835
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: going to be dealing with throughout the rest of the

836
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: season into next season. For the younger guys, for the

837
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: people that's going to come in and talk to these guys,

838
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: you know, for the guys that's already on the team

839
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: that are already activists out in the community like Dak

840
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: and Solomon Thomas and guys like that that have their foundations.

841
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: How do you deal with that as a team, as

842
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: everybody in the building, you know, not only everybody for Mickey,

843
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: for everybody that reports on the team, how do they

844
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: deal with and how do they go forward with? And

845
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: that's that's a hell of a thing to thrust on people.

846
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: I think. I think this is a time where we

847
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: need to understand that it's not about names. You know,

848
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 1: we always try to put the popular guy out there,

849
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: and all of that is just this is about the

850
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: most least known person on the roster. Okay, he might

851
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: be the one that I might help someone. So as

852
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: much as we talk about superstars and things of that nature,

853
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: there is no status in suicide or the survival of it.

854
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: And the thing that this is what living brings you said,

855
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: Unfortunately now, fortunately they have a game come Monday. Fortunately

856
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: you are still breathing. Fortunately you are still breathing. Same

857
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: what you make. Fortunately, life goes on. Life goes on, yea,

858
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: Because if you're not enjoying life, you always ask me

859
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: why I'm enjoying life? And I've talked to you about it.

860
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep enjoying life. And I hope that by

861
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: you seeing me say, hey man, what brings that out

862
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: of u? Nate? What brings that out of you? Mix?

863
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: What brings you know what I'm saying, Like you said,

864
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 1: you want to ask everybody every day how they're doing.

865
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: Fortunately you can do that. Yeah. No, that's the blessing.

866
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: That's the blessing in this And only I only meant

867
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: from that is that with that final that death is

868
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: for the people that's mourning, you know, it's trying to

869
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: go past that, you know, and you may not have

870
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: a situation and where you can get into a good

871
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: enough headspace by then. So guys, that's been a great show.

872
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: We did our think today. Uh, Bill Billy will be back,

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Speaker 1: Billy Williams. Bill will be back.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if Thursday will be Thursday for him

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Speaker 6: because I think they moved Thursday to Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Oh lord, so you.

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Speaker 1: Hear Hey, Billy Billy may not be back tomorrow, but

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Speaker 1: we'll get an opportunity to do this thag again. And

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Speaker 1: I've never had nate. They just sitting there with the

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Speaker 1: clock and showing me what time, what time it is,

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Speaker 1: That's what I thought. It was the first showing me

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Speaker 1: the time. I got a clock right here. I'm keeping

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Speaker 1: up with it. And who is one stumbling mumbling all night?

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Speaker 1: He's trying to call me to wordy gome On hit

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Speaker 1: us with you, okay boy, all right. Fortunately it's been

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