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Speaker 3: And when I launched this podcast on my initial wish list,

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Speaker 1: And I didn't want to talk at all about anything,

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Speaker 2: is been that it Girl?

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Speaker 3: An award winning actress and producer, this lady has spent

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Speaker 3: more than three decades defining culture, from classics like Love Jones,

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Speaker 3: She's built a longevity that is almost unheard of in Hollywood,

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Speaker 2: I have a whole list of like all the rap songs.

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Speaker 3: You're in and off screen, she's remained the force in

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Speaker 2: She just recently was starring in a Skims ad which

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Speaker 2: As long as our guest today on IRLS. So when

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Speaker 1: This chapter, the headlines are I come in peace, but

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Speaker 1: I come in peace. Part is I come with my

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Speaker 4: A woman because you you, it just trims so much

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Speaker 3: I know that's the part. You have to grow into

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Speaker 1: You can be kind, but I'm more interested in being

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Speaker 2: Why do we do that? Why do we do that?

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Speaker 2: I love that being able to switch your day like that,

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Speaker 3: My mother was at my house the other day and

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Speaker 2: How does that calendar out?

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Speaker 1: I go to the farmer's market, get all the fresh juices, dips.

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Speaker 1: I'm a dip girl. Are you a dip girl? No,

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Speaker 2: You got to come to law to be a dip girl.

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Speaker 1: I take my son, Okay, he's big gas well, because

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Speaker 1: Both of my kids are like smarter than me for sure.

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Speaker 1: I talk to them a lot. We talk about everything,

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Speaker 3: Sometimes on the pile, we've had conversations about like CARTI

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Speaker 2: you know just what was the other one?

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Speaker 1: Oh and and karma, how you treat women will come back.

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Speaker 2: To you and you know it was something like for her.

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Speaker 3: So I just wonder for you with your two boys,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure. Yeah, you see. So there's one, two, there's

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Speaker 2: How seven? How many of you think you're emotionally mature?

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine? Mm hmmm. So what I was thinking was.

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Speaker 3: M we were talking about emotionally challenged men. Yes, I

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Speaker 3: and then when you decided a point in your life,

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Speaker 2: Type of man. Maybe I should leave the balls at

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Speaker 2: the gym. I need a different genre. Can men be genres? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I can't be sure. Why not they put us some genres?

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Speaker 2: They sure do. So, by the way, what genre are

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Speaker 1: Well, now, I'm afraid to say, because we're fifties, we're

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Speaker 1: kind of like coogar genre. I'm not I'm never gonna

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I will kill you. I will kill you, yeah, will.

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Speaker 1: Unless I'm actually your auntie exactly, then it's okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because if I am not, I don't know what.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know you. I don't know you. Why

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Speaker 2: Why am I your auntie? That's gotta go. Not good?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So those are the categories they put us in.

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Speaker 1: What are the categories that we put them in?

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Speaker 2: Baller?

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Speaker 1: Baller?

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Speaker 2: an actor. No, he's not an actor. He he was contractor.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so he was a contract and.

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Speaker 1: I've never been married, by the way, you weren't married.

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Speaker 1: I have two beautiful children.

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Speaker 2: I was engaged twice. He's got some rings.

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Speaker 1: I do have some rings, and I will keep my

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Speaker 2: Yea, had they dare anybody dare ever? Never?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, listen, my children's fathers and I are good, good,

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Speaker 1: And it taught me a lot about my capacity to love,

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Speaker 2: We can forgive. How does that take a long time?

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Speaker 1: And I have to keep talking this talk so I

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm sure, yes, yes, and it can be

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Speaker 1: any of that. It was about how do I preserve

437
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: what's left and the new way my family is now?

438
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 2: Like who are we now? Because I could just.

439
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 1: Walk away and never talk to you ever again, and

440
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 1: how does that affect my son?

441
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to do that. So you decide

442
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,239
Speaker 2: I'm going to be as light. I'm going to go

443
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: into the light.

444
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: I'll let you know what time it is. I'm not

445
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: going to pretend like some shit didn't happen, but I'm

446
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 1: going to also be forgiving and be your friend. And

447
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: that's good, that's healthy.

448
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: Quickly you do that, not that quickly. It's not quickly.

449
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: It takes time and everyone should take their time. And

450
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: it's not for everyone. But we're talking about like the healing, right,

451
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: we're talking about the family unit.

452
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: We're talking about how.

453
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: Do you how do you grow from how do you

454
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: grow after a breakup?

455
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 2: How do you? Who are you after a breakup? That's

456
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: that's really what we're saying. That's what we're talking about.

457
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 1: Because even in whether it was that one or even

458
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: your first relationship or whatever relationship, you every.

459
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 2: Time you come out, you're knowing, yeah, you're a different person. Yeah,

460
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: how is that informed? Where you are now?

461
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 1: Marriage was never like, oh I have to be married,

462
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 1: not for you.

463
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: Never felt I've never felt that.

464
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 5: You took the rings though you had the intention you

465
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 5: were going to and listen, I thought I would, yeah,

466
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 5: but I wasn't the girl that said we have to

467
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 5: be married right now?

468
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: Especially now that we're having a child, Like it was

469
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: more important for me to be a mother than a wife.

470
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: Well and a good mother, right, and a good mother.

471
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I because I knew that I had my

472
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: own career and I didn't want to like not have

473
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: a child. I know so many women in this industry

474
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: who wait and wait and wait, and then they get

475
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: to a place where it's not possible and it's heartbreaking. Yeah,

476
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: and some.

477
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: Choose not to.

478
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 1: And I respect that too, Like, whatever your choice is,

479
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: I respect that. But I knew for me that being

480
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: a mother was not an option. It was it had

481
00:24:53,040 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: to happen, and so I I.

482
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: I picked you, and you prioritized that.

483
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 1: And I prioritized that. And I had good relationships with

484
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: both of their dads and I still do.

485
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. But when I was talking to.

486
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 1: Massi's dad the other day and I was like, hey,

487
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: what should I do about because he's really good with

488
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: like kind, He's like, oh, you should do blah blah, okay, cool,

489
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: thanks you good, He's like yeah, And then my son

490
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 1: came over.

491
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 2: I go, I ordered two brooms from Amazon.

492
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: You should take this to your dad for his new place,

493
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,719
Speaker 1: you know, Like it's just like that's basic stuff.

494
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: But it's the way we get down. Yeah, but it's friendly.

495
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: It's like a friend. It's like, yeah, it's a friendly environment.

496
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: But there's also boundaries. Oh yeah, there's a big one.

497
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: They would have to be yeah, right, because otherwise they'd

498
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: just be a hot mess. And your kids are probably

499
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: so much better for it and happy for it and

500
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: emotionally intelligent. Because you talk, I would imagine, just based

501
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: on what you said about.

502
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: How you mother that, Oh, I'm very honest.

503
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: I was going to say that there's been a lot

504
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: of dialogue, absolutely very honest about Like, listen, these are

505
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: the shortcomings, These are the strengths, These are the things

506
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: you should think about. These are my strengths, strengths, these

507
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: are my shortcomings.

508
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: Are you good at that? I am? You paused?

509
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: I mean, because I'm like, what are my shortcomings? Patients,

510
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm the most impatient person. I guess that could sometimes

511
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not patient at all. Also, sometimes women

512
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: who know what they want and are I don't know.

513
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't know, Like we don't see our own

514
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: shortcomings as clearly because we're so focused on what we

515
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: or because I read something one of you in the

516
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: packet about Laurence Fishburne would critique you in the first movie.

517
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: Is that true? Or he gave me some critique that

518
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 2: may do better?

519
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 3: He gave me and I thought, I wonder how she

520
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: deals with somebody pointing out something she could do better.

521
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: I love it, you do, okay, I really, especially if

522
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: if I respect the person.

523
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: I I just went to a whole round of a place.

524
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 2: But there's something about.

525
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: There's something about that that shows up in every area

526
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: of your life. Exact ability to take creative criticism. It's

527
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: also the ability to know that if I respect this

528
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: person in there, he was also at the time, I

529
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: was an ingenue and he was a big stage right,

530
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: So I'm going to take heed to what my I

531
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: don't want to say elders, but what the generation of

532
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: grapes came before me, what they have to say.

533
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 2: And you knew that even in that time.

534
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was struggling in the scene, because remember

535
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: the reaction in the scene is when this is boys boysthood,

536
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: you're twenty almost twenty or not even nineteen something in there, Wow,

537
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: and Ricky gets shot.

538
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: But that's not happening in real time.

539
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: It's a STEADI cam shot of me running across the

540
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: ground the yard.

541
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: Ricky just got shot. The shot goes to.

542
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: Laurence Fishburne, then to QBA and then it goes across

543
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: the street and you see what has happened.

544
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 2: So I am the.

545
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: Messenger of the bad news. So I had to come

546
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: in hot and I had never done that before. So

547
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: the first time I came in hot, but I wasn't

548
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: hot enough. And Laurence Fishburne took me to the side

549
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: and he said, I want you to think about what

550
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: you're doing right now and what just happened.

551
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: Now go do it again and be hysterical. And I

552
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: was like, okay.

553
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: And I was afraid because I'm young, not afraid of

554
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: him because he was lovely to me, but just wanted

555
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: to get it right.

556
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: And it was good and it worked. What did you do?

557
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: How do you get there? I didn't have time to

558
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: think about it. It was like, just go And what

559
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: it was is I didn't I didn't allow myself to

560
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: feel self conscious.

561
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: And I think that's big when you're a young actor,

562
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: is like you just don't feel self conscious.

563
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: Just be in that moment, just do what needs to

564
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: be done. Yeah, don't worry about how you look. Don't

565
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: worry about how you look or how somebody's receiving what

566
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: you're doing.

567
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: That's as long as my light is right and the

568
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: camera's in the right place, not your light. In a minute,

569
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start bringing my own lights to set.

570
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: We try to have good lights here. You do have

571
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: good lights. They're good.

572
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: They're the type of lights that you can like do

573
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: good stuff in post right if you need to, if

574
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: you need to.

575
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, I'm a film baby.

576
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: So I went from like lights being and an actor

577
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: like almost like another character on set to.

578
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: A digital world, which is a lot different, which is

579
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: very tricky.

580
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the key for me, I think my superpower

581
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: is when my eyes are lit, because then I don't

582
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: have to say much.

583
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: Do you absolutely ask for it?

584
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: You do ask for so you have, like a seasoned

585
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: director or somebody else say and you're like, Hi, I

586
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: need these babies right here, and you asked for that.

587
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: Your eyes? What is it about the knee? What is

588
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: it about the knea? Long eyes? I don't know, tell me.

589
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: Look at them. I know they're pretty good. They're like,

590
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: what are these chestnuts? The chestnut brown? I'm in shape

591
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: now they've served you boo.

592
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: I think I think it's like the eyes are, you know,

593
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: the windows to the soul. It's it's like cliche to

594
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: say that, but I think it's true. What I see

595
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: is what I've seen in my life can be seen

596
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: in my eyes. So if you're expressing a story, you're

597
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: expressing them through what you've seen and what you're looking at.

598
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: But there's a part of your past that always shows up.

599
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: So it could be pain, it could be joy, it

600
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,479
Speaker 1: could be love, it could be hate, it could be

601
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: there's light and dark.

602
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: There in the eyes, in the eyes and the eyes chicle.

603
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, have you ever looked at someone

604
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: and seen nothing in their eyes? They're just like nothing

605
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: there Ooh those people scare me. Yeah, I don't know

606
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: that I've ever, Oh I have. They're like, it's not often,

607
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: they're like almost. I wonder if we're talking about the

608
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: same person.

609
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: I'll tell you it. Cut the cameras. There's a person

610
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: whose eyes look like.

611
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: That to me that we know that we know that

612
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: I've been around many times.

613
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: It's actually two people I've been around. So yes, I

614
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: know exactly what you're talking about. And it is scary

615
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 3: and I always wonder am I reading into that too much?

616
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: Or is it drugs?

617
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: Is it alcohol? Is it lack of sleep? Or why

618
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: does it always look like that? Or is there something

619
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: in the.

620
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: Soul that's off.

621
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: It's probably all that, Yeah, all of those things. It

622
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: takes time to get there, to have nothing in your eyes?

623
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: What do you think? That is.

624
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: Probably a certain amount of just not willing to connect

625
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: to anything. You're like robotic, you're dead inside.

626
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: Sorry that sounded very harsh, but that's the same. I

627
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: think we're saying the same thing. You're dead to me.

628
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: That's such a good show. I love that show. Oh

629
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: that is a good show. What are you watching? What

630
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: are you doing for fun these days?

631
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: Like?

632
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: What are your things?

633
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: I just started watching It's getting hummus on Sundays. I

634
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: just started watching the JFK Junior.

635
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: The Love Story was the name of it? So good?

636
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: What's the name of the show? A love story? Yeah?

637
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: A love story? Yeah, I just started watching a love story.

638
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: I love it. I loved it. It was so well done.

639
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: I didn't expect to love it as that. I thought, oh,

640
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: this would be cute, I'll watch it. Takes that No,

641
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: but it was good.

642
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: And you know what, It reminded me of It reminded

643
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: me of the nineties when I was walking down Fifth

644
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: Avenue and he jogged right past me. K junior job right, Pat,

645
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: I didn't turn my words out. We locked eyes and

646
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: I said, that is a fine ash. And I was

647
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: so young. I didn't know who he was. And I

648
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: didn't until like later, and you were like, oh my god.

649
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: But I had a moment with him, Like we had

650
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: a moment.

651
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: Did he know it was you? I don't think he

652
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: knew it was me.

653
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: I think it was, well, you didn't know it was him.

654
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: This is like I think it was just like, oh,

655
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: you're cute.

656
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: That's like wow.

657
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: And we had like I was like, I get it.

658
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: People say that I don't know if we had a

659
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: charisma about him that like you cannot eat. Well, you

660
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: could see it in the film. You can't even explain it.

661
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: It was just like I was literally and I will

662
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: never forget this. I was literally walking and he was

663
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: coming this way, and I felt this energy and I

664
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: was like and we went and then he was gone.

665
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: And then I was like, I gotta go to work. Yeah,

666
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: why was he already with the girl? I don't think

667
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: in retrospect now. No, No, I think he was. I

668
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: could have had.

669
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: It have been your soul me and you miss could have,

670
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: But then I wouldn't be here right now? Well, then

671
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: that would really sad? You like him? God bless them

672
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: a sad story? Yeah? Are you like that?

673
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: Like a romantic in that way where I saw him

674
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: on the train and the doors closed and that could

675
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: have been him?

676
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: I feel like you have that in you a little bit.

677
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: I I I think.

678
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: New love and newness inspires like a visceral reaction in

679
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 2: your body. I believe in that.

680
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: I'm still does that change? No, but now it just

681
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: doesn't last as long. When I start seeing red flags,

682
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me turn this channel?

683
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: Channel? Is that what you call it? Channel? New show,

684
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: new channel, new new network?

685
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: But are you still open to that? Like, I don't know,

686
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: are you still open to like the grand kind of love?

687
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 2: Yes? Why wouldn't you still? Like? Like, do you look

688
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: for it?

689
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: I am more concerned about being that so that I

690
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: attract it than I.

691
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: Am looking for it.

692
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: You can't want something if you're not at your best.

693
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: So it's like a lot of self work.

694
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 2: What does that look like? Though? The thing for me

695
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: the thing you deserve. What does that look like?

696
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, come on, I will have especially if you

697
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: know it then it will say it.

698
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: It will, but it's personal, not what I want.

699
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 3: But I'll give you a couple of things because that's

700
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: also might come and try to trick you.

701
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: Listen after the thing that was a sound bite about

702
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: dating younger.

703
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: Now I'm like, that's right, And I was like, this

704
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: is why you can never do a SoundBite that doesn't

705
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: actually show the full conversation.

706
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: See in the nineties we didn't have that.

707
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: I know the whole It wasn't bad though, because here's

708
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: a reality. I think women should date whoever they want

709
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: to date, and I don't think that age matters. I mean,

710
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: within reason, yes, But I also know myself and the

711
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: reality is is I'm not just dating younger. Like if

712
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: I met someone who was interesting and mature and they

713
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: happened to be younger than fine, right, but.

714
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: It doesn't You're not like out looking for a young man.

715
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: They did not that would make me.

716
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: A cool you as a coolgar I forgot about that

717
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: for a seconds.

718
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: So what happens to your dms after they do that? Girl?

719
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: My phone right now, if I open my dms. You

720
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: would die. Can we do that? That would be so

721
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: much fun. I personally want to see something. Oh my god,

722
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: we're my glasses, though I can't do we need readers

723
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: my glasses. Can you maybe in my purse? I need

724
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: a sip of wine for this. I feel I need

725
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: to prepare my.

726
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say names, but we'll just say, like,

727
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: here's one. Lava was the one who taught me how

728
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: to read my dms?

729
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? I didn't even know if they

730
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: were like now I do, but like at first I

731
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: was like, DMS, what's that?

732
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 1: And she's like, bitch's a whole sea if in her

733
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I've been missed. Was the

734
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: one to show you. I don't know why I feel

735
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: like her dms. Actually we did that on the radio

736
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: one time, we went through her dms. I love her

737
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: because her dms were popping, popping. She's like, girl, we

738
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: were doing that Dear White People. I feel like on

739
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: the set of Dear White People, she taught me I need.

740
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: My dms to be a little popping. Do I not

741
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: give my dms should be popping by somebody? Is that?

742
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: Is it? Because I don't post third stress or is

743
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: it because you need to like the age? Is it like, no,

744
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 2: we just have to post. Just throw out there. I say,

745
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: be careful what you asked for. I don't really I

746
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: don't really want I was just joking. I was just joking.

747
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: But I do be thinking, like why don't get none?

748
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: I should be like, really inspired by your work. I

749
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: want a career in media, I was wondering.

750
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: Most of them have been telling me like, I'll sign

751
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: the NDA, shut the fuck, And I'm like, okay.

752
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 2: They're like, yo, where's the NDA? I'm ready to sign?

753
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: Did they start with yo? Oh? Yeah, I have some

754
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: ratchet folks in here chet, yes, okay, yeah, definitely have

755
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: some ratchet. So first of all, this they're shooting the

756
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: shot and they're opening up with a.

757
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: Yell, and I'm like that you don't even get to

758
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: see the paperwork with that.

759
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you know what I'm saying. Okay, we're gonna

760
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: find one.

761
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: Are any of these guys like a public figuremen? There's

762
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 3: a couple that have the blue.

763
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: Check mm hmm do you ever reply?

764
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: It depends on my mood, Like for shoots and giggles,

765
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: it depends how bored. I am god, why are all

766
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: the now all of them are?

767
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: Oh oh really.

768
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: Brittany will show you, like Law'll show you how to

769
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 1: search this. One says, I call all CAP, but put

770
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: me on the list of sneaky links.

771
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Now, you're welcome. Did you block him and

772
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: I call Cap? You don't know you?

773
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: Oh here's a guy. I'm just a normal every day

774
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: hold on, let me start over. I'm just a normal,

775
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: everyday young black man. And then he hasn't quotes just

776
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: a little bit. I guess that means a little bit young. Okay,

777
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: that sees you and wonders if I ever had a

778
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: chance to meet you and simply say hello in person.

779
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: I'm sure you get this all the time, so I

780
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: apologize if I'm wasting.

781
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: Okay, he's too polite, too polite, too polite. Yes, we

782
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: had two ratchets, because that's not really.

783
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: Just get to the point, all right, but be honest, Nia, Yeah,

784
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: are any of them good in here?

785
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? I've had a couple of good ones.

786
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: Really, But then I've watched their lives play out in

787
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: other areas and I'm like, thank god, I didn't go there.

788
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: You go to the page and you investigate. No.

789
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: I mean I've seen in public what they end up

790
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: public people who have DM yes, and I'm.

791
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: Like, oh, you're kind of a hot mess. I could

792
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: have been in that story right now, you know.

793
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: Yes, So you didn't take the bait. I didn't take

794
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: the bait. I took the flowers, but not the bait.

795
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: I like flowers. Oh god, I mean there's just not

796
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: there's just not Let's see.

797
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: This is this is a good time. I could do

798
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: this all day me too. Yeah, No, it's it's just not.

799
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: I mean I wish it was hot.

800
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: If he's not in the d MS and he's not

801
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: ball any type of baller situation, he's not that.

802
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: Where does he live? What? Like? How do you even?

803
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 2: I don't know. I ask you this not just for you,

804
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: but like the many women that I know that are

805
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: like who do you date? Yeah? Like how do you date? How?

806
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 2: Where do they come from? I don't want to date.

807
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: I'm so happy right now. Oh you don't want to Okay,

808
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: and I I don't even know how to date.

809
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's because I've just been in

810
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: a relationship for a really long time, so dating is like, Okay,

811
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: what do we do? Okay, So we're going to dinner,

812
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: we're going to talk, and you're going to show up

813
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: as your representative and I'm going to show up as me.

814
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 2: I think it's hard to date when you're us. Do

815
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: you show up as you on date one? Yeah? I

816
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: don't know how else to be, do you not? I

817
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: don't know.

818
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: I haven't dated in like fifteen years, and I.

819
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 2: Am, you know, I'm.

820
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: Trying to figure out the next thing. Yes, I don't

821
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: know what that looks I don't know what that looks

822
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: like for me. But can I tell you something. You're

823
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: going to go through this thing where you're gonna be like, oh,

824
00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: I want to date.

825
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 2: I'm going to get hot and date and get out there.

826
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what Chelsea Handler told me, and I thought,

827
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: I don't see it. That was a couple of months ago.

828
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: It hasn't. White women are different, Okay, Okay, bro, I

829
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: respect it.

830
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: I respect them so much like they can get up

831
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: and change the channel.

832
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: Bye. Sis, sisters are a little not all.

833
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: You can't generalize, but I would say that in my experience,

834
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: my very dear Caucasian white girlfriends are a lot more

835
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: like next.

836
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm you know, I'm just emotional. Yeah, it

837
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 2: takes time.

838
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: It takes time me too, and also like it takes

839
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: time to remember how to do.

840
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: It, I don't know how to do it. That's what

841
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

842
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: Are you still because you're like a couple of years

843
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: out now, you still haven't figured that out.

844
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: I've been working a lot, I mean, when you think

845
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: about it, I've been working NonStop since That's MJ right,

846
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: like since shooting that by the way.

847
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. And then.

848
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that I've had that much time

849
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: to figure to figure it out.

850
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: I've focused on my kids.

851
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: I know. I don't want to bring someone new in

852
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: to my son's life at this age.

853
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's tough. I'm all over the place.

854
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: But how fun to be able to play the mother

855
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: of Michael Jackson like it was?

856
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: Why could you imagine? And I'm sure you've had to

857
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 3: imagine because you played her so sore, you've gone through

858
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: all that work in your head of Like, but I

859
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: was thinking, could you imagine being Michael Jackson and Janet

860
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 3: Jackson in the Jackson's Vibes? Mother wild wild? But she's

861
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: a source, she's a pillar.

862
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: They spent a lot of time with her, right, So

863
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: I didn't meet her at auntil after I met her

864
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: at the premiere.

865
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

866
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: And so the whole time we were shooting, I had

867
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: been wanting to meet her, but you know, it was

868
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: one of those things that like, I mean, she's Captain Jackson.

869
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: They don't just get in a car and drive and

870
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: say like, hey, it's not that so you there's a

871
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: she's she's older, you know, she's she's just turned I

872
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: think ninety.

873
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 2: I want to say, yeah, she's so even who she

874
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: was when you played her. She's not that she's different.

875
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 2: She's different. She's a different woman. Yeah, but she's when

876
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: you meet her, she's.

877
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: Like very quiet, very sweet, very soft, kept her eyes

878
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: on the littles, like the babies.

879
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: I watched her watch the babies, and that was beautiful.

880
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: And I just kneeled next to her and I said,

881
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: I've been I've been waiting for this moment to meet you.

882
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: And I said, have you ever thought about the fact

883
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: that none of this would be happening without you? Makes

884
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: me want to cry? And she just kind of looked

885
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: at me and she started to cry. And she held

886
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: my hand and I held her hand and it was

887
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: just she's the beginning of an empire. Think about that's like,

888
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 2: that's hard. Course, she gave.

889
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: Birth to all those children and she protected them, and

890
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: she's sacrificed, and she's a grandmother of I'm sure she's

891
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: probably got like I don't know exactly how many grand

892
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: children are, but she is queen mother.

893
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 2: Yes, when I think about, why does that make you emotionals?

894
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: What do you think?

895
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: Because I know the weight she had to carry to

896
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: be a place of refuge and safety for her family,

897
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: But I know that she also had to probably internalize

898
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: so many things that she couldn't speak up about, or

899
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: chose not to speak up about.

900
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: No, I can only imagine.

901
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: Because she had the mother wit, the grace to know that,

902
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: like you don't have to speak on all things. Some

903
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: things are better left unset. And I think that's her

904
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: holding her. That's that divine feminine power that we all

905
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: have that you have to protect.

906
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: That must have been great. Did you ask her how

907
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: you did that? You had to ask? I didn't ask

908
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: her that because I was like, what if she says, no,

909
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: oh God, that would be I didn't recognize that woman

910
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 2: at all. Get her out of here. No, I didn't.

911
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: I didn't ask her because I know that she was

912
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: happy and all the sons were happy. How you feel,

913
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: and I could feel that she was happy. And you know,

914
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: you do these performances to tell a story, and you

915
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: know it changes from moment to moment. Like my interpretation

916
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: of it is not going to be the same as

917
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: when Angela Bassett did her interpretation, which was amazing. Two

918
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: different things, two different projects, two different movies. And so

919
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: I didn't want to get caught up in trying to

920
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: be Catherine Jackson. I wanted people to feel.

921
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: What she represents.

922
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: Yes, right, and that's the baseline of the family. That's

923
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: the strength, that's the and you gotta understand, like we

924
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: shot a lot of other scenes that didn't make it

925
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: into the movie because of because of the you know,

926
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: the legal shakeups that happened towards the end. So it was,

927
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was tricky. Yeah, what is

928
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: that like for you to be? So I was looking

929
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: at the body of work.

930
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: All of the movies. You're always like the hot little

931
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: the young little haughty in the movie. I hate it.

932
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 2: You hate the haughty rolls well because it's not I mean,

933
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't hate it.

934
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: I don't hate it. I actually love it. I love

935
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: that I get to do that. But I think I

936
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: mean Friday, even Friday. Yeah, like the way it's I

937
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: mean it's it's I don't know, it's it's endearing, it's not.

938
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 2: It's not overly sexualized. No, no it's not.

939
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: It's like you've been put on this like ideal girl

940
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: kind of pedestal. That's the part that's tough. Yeah, because

941
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: as much as I appreciate it, I'm.

942
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: Not that girl anymore.

943
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, we're we change as women, and

944
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to have to live up to that

945
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: whatever that is.

946
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, what is it to you?

947
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 3: Like, because you do take your skin regimen, your beauty,

948
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: how you look, how you present like you just did

949
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 3: Playboy like skims.

950
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah that was great. I love that.

951
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, So where do you I don't know, where do

952
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: you put that, the idea of how people see you

953
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: versus how you see it yourself. I think as long

954
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: as I'm taking care of myself and it's about my

955
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: personal growth and my choice rather than then it's okay.

956
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: Rather than trying to be younger, or trying to be hot,

957
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: or trying you know, or trying to be the nineties

958
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: hot girl, Like I'm not.

959
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 2: You're not the nineties hot girl. You still are in

960
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 2: there somewhere. No, she's in me. She's never going away.

961
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 2: But I don't need to. I don't need to walk

962
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: out the door with an agenda. I just need to

963
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: walk out the doors me.

964
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: And some days I'm nineties hot girl Nia, some days

965
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm Mamma Kia. Some days I'm carpool Nia, and some

966
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: days I'm hot mess Nian. Some days I'm red carpet Nia,

967
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: and other days I'm.

968
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 2: You're going to the set to play the matriarch.

969
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: Right, And I've gave you know, forty pounds because I'm

970
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: in menopause and I'm a grown ass woman. Like that's

971
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: I'm all of those those all of those women are

972
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: a part of who I am, and so I don't

973
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: want to be beholden to one version of myself.

974
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: But is that tricky? Did you have to go into

975
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: that with a growing there?

976
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: I think there's a moment that every woman walks into

977
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: the bathroom and looks in the mirror and you're like, oh,

978
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm getting older, and it's okay.

979
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: Did you take it?

980
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: That's okay, yeah, because I was like, I'm still fine,

981
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: I'm still I still feel pretty for me. Yeah, you know,

982
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: I still feel good about myself and I'm taking care

983
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: of myself so that I can preserve that.

984
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: But I'm also.

985
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: I can also see the things that are changing, and

986
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: that's good, like to be able to have more life,

987
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: to be able to change, to be able to know

988
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: that like one dam.

989
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: Gon to be a grandma and one day going to

990
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: have all of you know, it's it's nice. You've got

991
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: to settle into it. Either you're going to fight it

992
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 2: or settle into Yeah.

993
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're I think the world sets us

994
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: up to always want to fight it.

995
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 2: And it is a tough thing. You know. I struggle too.

996
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 3: Sometimes I'm okay with it, and then every time I'm like,

997
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: sometimes I'm like, I don't like this.

998
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: I don't feel like that inside, so I shouldn't look

999
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 2: like that on the outside. Sometimes I don't know.

1000
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: Well, that's the self talk, right, Like that's the thing

1001
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: that we have to get under control. And I think

1002
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: as our hormones change and our bodies change, it comes

1003
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: with anxiety, It comes with exhaustion, comes with imbalance of

1004
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: our hormones.

1005
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: All these things are real, not like people just talking

1006
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: about them. It happens.

1007
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: And so you just have to have not you, but anyone,

1008
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: me myself. As long as I feel myself going down

1009
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: the rabbit hole and I pause and recalibrate, I'm good.

1010
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: So you do have the feelings, you just pause and recalibrate.

1011
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: I pause today, I said. Today, I was getting dressed

1012
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: and I go, God, I need to be in the gym,

1013
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: and I go, But you know what, I don't want

1014
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 1: to right now.

1015
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to. Good for you. I want to

1016
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 2: I'm actually at the weight that I like to be at.

1017
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: But I walked into the mirror my bron panties, and

1018
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: I was like, I need to go to the job

1019
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 1: because it's important to lift weights at this age, at

1020
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: the stage. But with that the reason, no, whenever you

1021
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: would because if you walk past the mirror your bron panties,

1022
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: you weren't like it's important to lift weights.

1023
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: No, No, that was the reason I was. I was like,

1024
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: this used to look like this and now it looks No.

1025
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, I've got good legs,

1026
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: but don't start taking them for granted by not working

1027
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: out go work out so they can stay nice.

1028
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 2: I want to go back to it, girl.

1029
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 3: And that theory about you being on this pedestal, right,

1030
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 3: just when I was a young girl, that could be tricky,

1031
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 3: like them putting you on this like pretty girl pedestal.

1032
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: I just wonder if, like Eagle had said in or,

1033
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, what does that do to a young

1034
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: girl and everybody's.

1035
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 2: Like, you're so pretty, You're so you're that girl.

1036
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: I didn't really have people coming up to me saying

1037
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: you're so pretty, like and there was no social media,

1038
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 1: and there was no social media, and I was working

1039
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: like I was a worker. I started in soaps. I

1040
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: moved here when I was twenty one, twenty two years old,

1041
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: younger than that actually, because I I graduated high school

1042
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: and moved straight to New York.

1043
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: I was on soaps. That was morning tonight.

1044
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: That job was hard and I think, oh, I was

1045
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: telling someone the other day the moment that I realized

1046
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: I was famous, and it was trippy.

1047
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: I was with Marvette Burrito, Oh, yes, publicists.

1048
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were at al Roy Jones Junior fight.

1049
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: At Madison Square Garden. I feel like I might have

1050
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 2: been at that same time. You were probably there. Everyone

1051
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: was there.

1052
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Spike Lee, Mike Tyson, every supermodel from

1053
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: the nineties. And when I walked in, I was like,

1054
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: oh my god, like this every it was packed.

1055
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: And someone on.

1056
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: The loudspeaker said knee Long just walked in and the

1057
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: whole building started screaming, and I like got nervous, like

1058
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: what's happening? I was like, are they doing that for me?

1059
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: And then Marvett just looked at me and smiled and

1060
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: she's like, come on, But like that was my part,

1061
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: like I and I'm not saying this to try to

1062
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: be like super humble girl. Like I really wasn't focused

1063
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: on that. I was in survival mode. I was born

1064
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. I was living in South central LA. My

1065
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: mother was a single mom. I was like, how can

1066
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: we get up out of this ghetto? How can we survive?

1067
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 2: But also, you have a gift that you're probably chasing, and.

1068
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: I was chasing my own gift, right, But I knew

1069
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: that if I had che my goals, it would make

1070
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: everything better.

1071
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: So I didn't have I didn't have this. Yeah, you

1072
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: know how much I love him. I know I love

1073
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: that I didn't have this. Oh I'm the hot girls

1074
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 2: attitude at all. I was. I didn't not like the

1075
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 2: models in the room probably had that whole.

1076
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: No, I didn't understand that. I was like, why are

1077
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: they so uptight? Yeah, the what's going on?

1078
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 2: I didn't have that. I was. I was aware of

1079
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: my surroundings. I was aware of you were aware that

1080
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: you were getting casted, and I was aware of how

1081
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 2: people were responding.

1082
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: But I wasn't walking into a room with a chip

1083
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: on my shoulder or thinking I was the prettiest girl

1084
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: in the room, or feeling like I needed to be

1085
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: the number one person in the room.

1086
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,479
Speaker 2: And I still don't have that. Really, you're at.

1087
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: I'm a little like silly and like like people that

1088
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: know me, No, like you don't take yourself that serious. No,

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00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: It's funny because sometimes we work with people, will hire people,

1090
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: and me and brit always talk about this.

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00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 3: It's kind of like, I don't know, I have like

1092
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 3: a pretty girl syndrome thing that sometimes I see. I

1093
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 3: don't want to call it that because that's too but

1094
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 3: like there's a thing that, especially if I'm hiring somebody

1095
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 3: or if I'm working with somebody, sometimes in a pretty

1096
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 3: girl I could see less effort and I don't want

1097
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 3: to paint that on everybody. There's plenty of pretty girls

1098
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 3: who work hard or whatever. But sometimes I'm like, oh,

1099
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 3: too many people told her she's pretty, or too many

1100
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: people gave her a praise for something that wasn't that great.

1101
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 3: And I can see the difference when people are affected

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00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 3: by being pretty, when they when they let it seep

1103
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 3: into they work ethic, or they took it too serious and.

1104
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: They're believing the hype and believe the hype. Bitch, do better,

1105
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: Like come on, you feel like that's something that has

1106
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: to do with this.

1107
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 3: It drives me crazy because I want to go, come on,

1108
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 3: you're pretty, of course you are, but like that's.

1109
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: Not enough, like never enough. Come on. Man. It bothers

1110
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: me because I feel almost they're selling themselves short.

1111
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: Like do you feel like that's generational? Do you feel

1112
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: like that's really like a pretty thing? Because I think

1113
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: some of that is just smacking on eminem.

1114
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 2: That's okay, it's real life. This is in real life.

1115
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 2: I feel like some of that is.

1116
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: About generation, entitlement, titlement. Can you say something they're like defensive?

1117
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: I think maybe both. I think it depends on the person.

1118
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 6: We were grinders, We were, but not all were. Not

1119
00:57:55,160 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 6: everyone was who from the nineties wasn't a grinder That

1120
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 6: is still relevant right now?

1121
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's a difference. That's a different story.

1122
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 3: But they were definitely like cute girls, prants and around

1123
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 3: thinking that was enough. There was a lot of them everywhere.

1124
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 3: They might not have made it because that's what they

1125
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 3: leaned on. Yeah, pretty, there's something in that.

1126
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1127
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's some expert or some psychologists that can

1128
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 3: break that down.

1129
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: But I do like if I only have sons, but

1130
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: if I had a daughter, it would be my one

1131
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: of my things that even if she was gorgeous, like

1132
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: you are not going to that is not going to

1133
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: be your headline correct, Like come on, we need we

1134
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: need some substance because you're not always going to be gorgeous.

1135
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: At some point then what happened and then I always

1136
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: talk about like it. It reminds me of this thing

1137
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: that I think often is like, you know, in high school,

1138
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't the prettiest girl, I wasn't the most popular.

1139
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: I was like in the second batch, you know.

1140
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 2: B level.

1141
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: I was B level cute in high school, so you

1142
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: had like the as and then you had me and

1143
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: the you know, I was like BC, like the guys

1144
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: liked me, but that was only because the A girls

1145
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: weren't giving them the time of day.

1146
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 3: Oh so you had to also have some type of personality.

1147
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,479
Speaker 1: Yes, And I was just very aloof and I would

1148
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: go to school and I did great in school.

1149
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 2: I was always a good student.

1150
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: But what was interesting is when we all graduated and

1151
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: you go back. I never go to my high school reunion.

1152
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: That's like, I just don't do stuff like that. I

1153
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: don't know why, but I just don't.

1154
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,959
Speaker 2: I get it. Do you go? No, It's not because

1155
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: I'm an actor. It's just like, what are we going

1156
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 2: to talk about? I also, I have a difficult time

1157
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: with small talk. Me too, Oh my god, I get sewing.

1158
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: I have so much anxiety. It doesn't mean I can't

1159
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: talk to a stranger. I could talk to a stranger

1160
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: as long as it's authentic conversation. Yes, yes, yes.

1161
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: Okay, But what about the people I call it the

1162
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: fall off, the ones that were in the A group

1163
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: and you see them thirty years later, and they didn't

1164
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: do the work, and they didn't grind, and they let

1165
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: themselves go.

1166
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: Because or life happened or listen.

1167
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm not being judgmental, but what I'm saying is the

1168
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: pretty thing you're talking about, yes, is like the most

1169
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: popular girl in high school. So I mean, I guess

1170
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: the moral of the story is is we just can't

1171
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: be that.

1172
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: We have to be more. Yeah, we have to.

1173
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: I think we have to explore all parts of ourselves

1174
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: and we have to rip it open, and we have

1175
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: to dig deep, and we have to heal, and we

1176
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: have to figure out, like what are the things that

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01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: we're meant to do here while we're here, because it

1178
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: seems like a long time it's really not. I know,

1179
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: ultimately that is the quest that we should all be on.

1180
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: That's it. Why are we here? What is our purpose?

1181
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 2: How do we serve?

1182
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: How can we inspire humanity? How can we look beautiful

1183
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: but be about it?

1184
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: Right? Like be about it?

1185
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the biggest things I

1186
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: teach my kids is to be of service because being

1187
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: of service means that you are able to put your

1188
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: ego away.

1189
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 2: M hmm. How you do that? You do? Are you?

1190
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 2: I do love it? Okay? I love you know.

1191
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: The other day I was driving to pick up my

1192
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: dry cleaning and there was this little lady on the

1193
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: corner with her cane and she kept waving her cane.

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01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: Why did I put the lady in my car and

1195
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 2: drive her home? And then she.

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01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: And then I stepped at a red light and she

1197
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: tried to jump out, so then I had to call

1198
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: nine one one, and nine one one came to get her,

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01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: and she had dementia and it was just like a

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01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: whole thing. And I was like, well, and the officer

1201
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: was like, I understand you were trying to do a

1202
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: good thing, but like you, sometimes you gotta be careful.

1203
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 2: You just don't. But I felt bad.

1204
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: I was like, she's like, it's nine hundred degrees outside

1205
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: and she's waving her cane. But I don't want to

1206
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: stop being that person because I know a lot of

1207
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,479
Speaker 1: people that would just drive by and listen. I get

1208
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: just driving by because some things are not your business.

1209
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: But I also have a tender spot in my heart

1210
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: for elderly. I have a tender spot in my tender

1211
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: spot in my heart for people that are just hard

1212
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: working people, you know that just come to my house

1213
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: every week and they do their jobs and we sit

1214
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: and we chat for a minute, and like there's an

1215
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: exchange of energy. I admire that they don't it does

1216
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I'd rather that conversation than, to your point,

1217
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: chit chat. Yeah, because the chit chat drives me crazy.

1218
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so bad at it. But I

1219
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 2: just felt like, oh, she really wants me. First time.

1220
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. It was so sweet.

1221
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: It was it was so genuine, right, But I always

1222
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: felt our conversations were genuine for sure. We had a

1223
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: lot of mutual friends yea and things like that, But

1224
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: I never realized until this conversation, are you like, do

1225
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: you have a now?

1226
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: I feel like you should hang out all the time.

1227
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,479
Speaker 2: I hate loud. I hate loud. I hate loud.

1228
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: I hate too much talking Sometimes it makes me like that,

1229
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: like I get buzzy. But see, and I don't like

1230
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: multiple things sounds at the same.

1231
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 2: Time, one thing at a time. Stick to what we're

1232
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 2: talking to. I love you.

1233
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: I just sound like ass No, she's not, she's laughing

1234
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: because you're like my twin soul.

1235
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 2: Right. I can't. I can't. My nervous system can't handle it.

1236
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 2: But you know what I think it is?

1237
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 3: I will literally and I realize it's rude after and

1238
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 3: I don't care if it's true.

1239
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: Know, if I'm taking care of myself, I gotta take

1240
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: like wait and it will not because I want to

1241
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: shush somebody. It's just because I need.

1242
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 2: It's like if you're talking to me and they're talking

1243
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: to me, everybody's.

1244
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, it's like a nervous breakdown.

1245
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: It's like a mini panic attack. We are best friends,

1246
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: decided to do not disappear from to l.

1247
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 2: Ah your guest house. God, Oh my god, oh my god.

1248
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 3: All right, we have some in real life questions. We

1249
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 3: must get to a poice note. Yes we can. We

1250
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 3: have a voicetow segment. Somebody sends in. We say we

1251
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 3: have nia long on the show. They send us a note.

1252
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 2: Baks, do it right now. That's rue.

1253
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:14,919
Speaker 3: Hey guys, you ever sign up for a phone plan

1254
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 3: thinking wow, what a great price, and then a few

1255
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 3: months later it's like, surprise.

1256
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 2: Your bill is higher. We hate that.

1257
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 3: With boost Mobile, you pay twenty five dollars a month forever.

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01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 3: That's unlimited talk, text and data starting at just twenty

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Speaker 3: five dollars a month. There's no price hikes, there's no contract,

1260
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Speaker 3: and this is forever.

1261
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 2: Plus.

1262
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 3: Boost Mobile is now a legit nationwide five G network.

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01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 3: They invested billions building five G towers across the country.

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01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 3: So what you need to do is visit boostmobile dot

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01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 3: com or head to your local Boots store today and

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01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 3: get unlimited talk, text and data for twenty five dollars

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Speaker 3: all areas. After thirty gigabytes, customers may experience lower speeds.

1269
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 3: Customers will pay twenty five dollars a month as long

1270
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 3: as they remain active on the Boost unlimited play.

1271
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 2: And who is this person that were Do we know

1272
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: a name? Your mom, your fama? What's her name? And

1273
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 2: I Anna? Hi, Annaana? Okay, let's hear it.

1274
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 7: Hey, Ania, I've been such a fan of yours for

1275
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 7: so long. I love your movies like Boys in the Hood,

1276
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 7: and love Jones, especially.

1277
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 2: Outside of your work. You're also just such a beautiful woman,

1278
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 2: such a beauty icon.

1279
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 7: My question is what's the most insane way to get

1280
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 7: snatched or get ready before a big event. I have

1281
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 7: a girl strip coming up and I just want to

1282
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 7: look hot.

1283
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 2: Just give me some tipps.

1284
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: She didn't see the part right said, I need to

1285
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: go to the gym. It doesn't matter. Nobody cares about

1286
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: whatever you saw in the mirror that said you needed

1287
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: to go to the gym. You people think of you

1288
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: as a hot girl forever, hot girl.

1289
01:05:55,480 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: You know, well, okay you no, no, But I I'm

1290
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 2: a big walker.

1291
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: I love walking, And that's one of the reasons I

1292
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: love coming home because I get to walk everywhere. Like

1293
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm literally gonna leave here, go get my mom from

1294
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: the hotel, and go walk. I'm a little worried about

1295
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: my hair because I gotta work tomorrow, but it looks

1296
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: so good. I'm just gonna just go with it.

1297
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, this is gonna sound cliche, but lots

1298
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 2: of water. I do a thing. This is my new thing.

1299
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: I take clothes, the dry clothes, and I take ginger

1300
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: fresh ginger and a cinnamon stick and I make a tea.

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Speaker 1: The cinnamon stick regulates your blood sugar, so you don't

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01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: go up and down and get hungry. I put it

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01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: in the fridge. I get it really cold, and you

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01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: can add hydration powder, you can add whatever else you

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01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: want to it.

1306
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 2: And I sip on that all day.

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01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: If you drink cold tea or hot tea, it curbs

1308
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: your appetite, it flushes you out. It keeps you alert.

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01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: It's hydrating clothes, cinnamon, ginger.

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01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: And water and water like a tea. Boil it on

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Speaker 2: the stuff.

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01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: Let it boil, simmer when it cools down, pour it

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Speaker 1: into a glass. Because we don't do plastic anymore. Well,

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01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: try not to do plastic. Try really hard.

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Speaker 2: Red cups. I know, but red cups are kind of

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01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 2: like a thing for black people and brown people. You

1317
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: can't like, just like you're all about the environment, but

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Speaker 2: I'm so.

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01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: Hard we're those red cups because some people aren't gonna

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01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: know what we're talking about.

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01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 2: People know what red cups are. Everybody a red cup

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01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 2: is stop. There's an emoji in the phone, a red

1323
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 2: cup of Moji. Everybody knows what a red cup is,

1324
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 2: but have they seen him in person? You want to

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01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 2: show a cup, I'm just saying, like you want to

1326
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: drink out of the cup. No, we have We're gonna

1327
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 2: do this, but I'm sad like we used to do that.

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01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 2: This is a red cup guys for you young ins

1329
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 2: that don't they know, especially, oh they do. I didn't know.

1330
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: Maybe had Patty the Bell on the podcast.

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01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: I saw that. I didn't see the interview, but I

1332
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: saw that she was coming. I didn't actually see it.

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01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 2: I love her.

1334
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: She's amazing, she's amazing, she's a national treasure.

1335
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: She is.

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01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: She told me that when she was coming up, she

1337
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 1: would drink out of these red cups or plastic cups.

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01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: She would drink wine out of them.

1339
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: And Nina Simone said to her, no, dolly, you must

1340
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: drink out of crystal.

1341
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 2: And what did she call it. There was a word

1342
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 2: for it. She called it fluff up, fluffing up.

1343
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: Oh, I like that, right, Patty LaBelle says, Ever since then,

1344
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: it's crystal for her. She drinks her wine out of crystal,

1345
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: drink her water out of crystal.

1346
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 2: So no more, no more of the ease, okay, sorry.

1347
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: And also they're not going for the environment. They're terrible

1348
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 1: for the environment. You see, we've evolved. And if Patty

1349
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 1: says we should drink out of crystal, then we're drinking.

1350
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: Simone says that we're all drinking.

1351
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 2: I mean, those are our those are our girls. Then

1352
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 2: I think we must drink out of crystal. I think so.

1353
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 2: By the way, Oh this was good. Oh you know

1354
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 2: what these are. We're not gonna have time for this today.

1355
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 2: Do you know how many rap lyrics you're in have

1356
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 2: you done this?

1357
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 1: So many?

1358
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 2: So many? Okay, just really quick Neolong and a cherry thong,

1359
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 2: ne Along and a cherry thong sipping on pair and young.

1360
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: Okay nas that was Ucci Wally right mm hmm. My

1361
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: only regret was too young for me a long.

1362
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 2: That was a big one. That was a good one.

1363
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 2: That was because it was like on a hit record.

1364
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: That was old and they paused me. That made me

1365
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: a hot mom.

1366
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 2: Because that was like when my kids were younger. Oh

1367
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 2: so you showing up to the school.

1368
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, well, y'all are too young?

1369
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 2: What did the kids say? How did the kids feel

1370
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 2: about that? I mean we're talking about private school in LA.

1371
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: There were very few probably who knew the song, but

1372
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: no your kids, Oh my kids.

1373
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 2: My kids were like. My kids were like, wow, like

1374
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 2: my mom is cool. You know they think yeah the

1375
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: rap song. Mm hm. Trinny Bourne black like ne Along's grandmother,

1376
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 2: five dog, five.

1377
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 3: Dog, looking like looking like I could be Along boy

1378
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 3: smoking that cheech.

1379
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 2: And chohnk oh, Missy Elliott, Yeah yeah, touch it. Short

1380
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 2: hair like ne alone, hair like Neil Loose ones should

1381
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 2: don't need alone like me alone? Short, short hair like

1382
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 2: nea along is that like?

1383
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 1: That is juicy J juicy J Okay, okay, thanks Juicy.

1384
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 2: Couldn't keep it at home. Thought I needed a knee alone.

1385
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 2: Kanye touch this guy. That's a pretty good one. It's

1386
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 2: safe to say. Like the rappers, they like you. Yeah,

1387
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 2: I like them? You do, I do. Have you ever

1388
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 2: tried that bucket?

1389
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: No?

1390
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 2: I should? I got all I now it's gonna be

1391
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: like she switched from Young Boys to rubbers. Jeezy was

1392
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 2: absolutely shooting his shot? Was he? He said that it

1393
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 2: was pub I don't know. You didn't get the vibe.

1394
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,799
Speaker 2: Now we had a conversation and he was lovely. He's lovely,

1395
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 2: he's lovely. Well, he said he was shooting a shot.

1396
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: But you need along. I think most rappers are going

1397
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 2: to shoot their shot. But you know, the shot shooting

1398
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 2: has not been so good.

1399
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, I am like traditional, ask me to

1400
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: go to dinner. You don't want like a slick little

1401
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: I don't need a slick I got to figure it out.

1402
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 1: I need you to come. I think you're interesting, I

1403
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: think you're beautiful. Can I take you to dinner?

1404
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 2: Does that happen? Never? Never? Because it's always like I

1405
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 2: think It's like, I hope you didn't just tell them

1406
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 2: how to do it, And now everywhere you go I think,

1407
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 2: I think you're beautiful. Can I take you to dinner? Hey, guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, go in your IRL bowl. Pick a question.

1422
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Speaker 1: Oh, if this were your last day on Earth, what

1423
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: would you be doing.

1424
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:52,799
Speaker 2: I'd be eating ice cream, EM and MS and watching

1425
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 2: a movie in bed with my kids and my mom.

1426
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 2: That's a good day. That's a great day.

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01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: It's a great day, and we'd be very dehydrated because

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01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:02,799
Speaker 1: we have advanced night repair.

1429
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 2: Ryan, where's the products? Products? I bring the products.

1430
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: I feel like gang show music.

1431
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 2: There's products. Yay, Okay, what is so? Okay? I gotta

1432
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 2: put my glasses on. Oh my god, this is this

1433
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: spright here, this is my holy grail. I love this

1434
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 2: so much. It's advanced night repair.

1435
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: It's been around forever, and it's a serum you can

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01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: I this is how I use.

1437
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 2: She uses this now till the trip.

1438
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's actually a great because.

1439
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 2: It'll give the glow.

1440
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 1: It'll give the glow of like I've been taking care

1441
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: of myself. So at night, wash your face, do your

1442
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: routine of washing your face. Then you want to pat

1443
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: yourself dry. I like to put a thick coat on

1444
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: and go to bed. I wake up in the morning,

1445
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: fine line's gone, your face is feeling good, and hydrate it.

1446
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 1: But I also do it throughout the day. If I'm

1447
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 1: on a plane, you're traveling, put in your purse. Oh

1448
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: my god, I've been on so many planes late.

1449
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 2: It's so good. Can I peep me this? That's yours?

1450
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: Okay, good sures You can open it to.

1451
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 2: Night repair, but it doesn't have to be night, like

1452
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 2: if I'm on the plane, I.

1453
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: Mean, they say night repair and I get in trouble

1454
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 1: for this every time. But honestly, you can do it, okay.

1455
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 2: Right Ryan. They recommend that you use it morning and night.

1456
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Ryan, Thanks Ryan. I need it.

1457
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 1: If you just put it right here, I'm good. It's

1458
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: the wine, Oh my god. And then it isn't that nice?

1459
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: It's even on your hands. I put it on my hands.

1460
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: And then this is the revitalizing. According to Chris Rock,

1461
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 1: that's how women could tell their age. Chris Rock, I

1462
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: want to see his hands.

1463
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 2: You gotta get him on the pod because I want

1464
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 2: to give him a piece of my mind. We should, Chris,

1465
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 2: where are you? I've never booked somebody to give them

1466
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 2: a piece of my mind. My god, that would He's

1467
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 2: so good. I have so many people I would like

1468
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 2: to give a piece of my mind to this. Right

1469
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 2: here is the revitalizing supreme plus. I'll take that. I

1470
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 2: just need it.

1471
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 1: You can.

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01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 2: You can you see the difference? You see? Yeah? I'm

1473
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 2: into it. Okay.

1474
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 3: I love that you dad and pat your own makeup, and.

1475
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 2: I'm for thank you. Okay. We're best friends, so you're

1476
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 2: best friends. We've just been We've just been separated by distance.

1477
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 2: Did you try this? Know what I do?

1478
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: This is the revitalizing supreme plus do with this on

1479
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: top of this. You can put it on top of this.

1480
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 1: But this, you're gonna put it on top of your makeup.

1481
01:15:53,080 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 2: No, this is the neck cream that goes face to neck. Yo,

1482
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 2: Kiki was not lying because your nick is good. It's good,

1483
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 2: but you got to work on it.

1484
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: I know my neck is okay. Their neck is good,

1485
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 1: it's not like yours. You like a baby, because you.

1486
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 2: Gotta go, you have to massage it. I'm so bad,

1487
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm left. I'm good, ready to go.

1488
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: No, I literally spend hours in the bathroom in the morning.

1489
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: Really yes, that would make me and I got to

1490
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: bed at nine. That would make me really ninth.

1491
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 2: I'm such a dud. I'm really dead. No, we get it.

1492
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 2: I want to let this go. I want this to

1493
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 2: just I don't want to edit this either.

1494
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,799
Speaker 1: I want us to have four minutes on camera running

1495
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: the screen through our neck. Now, put the excess on

1496
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: your hands. Though it's good, like your cuticles, it's so good.

1497
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 2: I definitely use too much.

1498
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: Right, No, I I am I am a such thing.

1499
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any such thing as too much.

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01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: Never the more, the isn't that nice? That's really you see,

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01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: that's really good leaves a nice sheen. Uh yeah, all right,

1502
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, thank you, Na so exciting.

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01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 2: There's more goodies for you too, there is Yeah, we can't.

1504
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 2: We came. We came with m h he is who

1505
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 2: is it? So so beautiful? You just you just had

1506
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 2: to insert that time? Do you have a thing for

1507
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 2: the guy?

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01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: No? He was beautiful, beautiful man.

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01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 2: It's actually I was like, is this is really good casting?

1510
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 2: Because for me to turn that down right, you're that girl?

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01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess yeah, mm hmm, okay. Do you

1512
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 2: have a choice in the casting like I did? And

1513
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 2: I also had Benny Boom direct? Oh I love that,

1514
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 2: I know.

1515
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: I was like, let us do a nineties throwback and

1516
01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: Benny was there and I called him. I was like,

1517
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 1: could you what do you think about it? Yeah?

1518
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 2: We had fun. So you picked the guy I picked.

1519
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: They gave me a couple the brand gave me like

1520
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: this is what they gave the storyline and the breakdown,

1521
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 1: and they said these are the guys we think.

1522
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 2: What do you think? And we all picked the Broderick Hunter,

1523
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 2: mister Hunter. You said him, that guy? I said him,

1524
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 2: you know immediately? Did I know immediately? What was it?

1525
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 2: What was it? What was the thing that made it?

1526
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 3: He's beautiful, just as he's beautiful, Corteous. I'm sure they

1527
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 3: put a bunch of beautiful men in front of you know.

1528
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: It was him and another guy that was good looking,

1529
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: but very different good looking. The other guy was like

1530
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 1: a little more rugged looking but still really handsome. But

1531
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: I knew for this because it was a quick pop

1532
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: and he was familiar to me because he's an actor.

1533
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, women are going to recognize him.

1534
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 1: So it's not it's it's about selling the story, right,

1535
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 1: Like I can look outside of like him just being

1536
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 1: a good looking guy, it was also selling the story.

1537
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 2: He also has really good skin, and he was recognizable.

1538
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 2: So do you ever do you have you been able

1539
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 2: to choose leading men before I have? When did you do?

1540
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 2: Can you say? Or you can't say?

1541
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 1: Even with love Jones, it was it was Gary Door,

1542
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: Dano and Lorenz tape. You said, and I said, Lorenz.

1543
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: And what happened was is the director showed our screen

1544
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: test to a group of women that were his friends.

1545
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: What they showed both screen tests, mine with Gary and

1546
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: mine with Lorenz, and they were like, definitely them as

1547
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: a couple, and Gary was great too. It was just beautiful, right,

1548
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 1: But it was just we hadn't seen two brown skinned,

1549
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 1: black people in love that looked like they were from,

1550
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, the same world, Like we looked right together.

1551
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, So isn't that crazy to think? I know that

1552
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 2: it was. So it was just a good movie too.

1553
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: The you guys, beautiful you guys brought these characters to life,

1554
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,759
Speaker 1: and the music and everything felt so authentic and fresh

1555
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 1: and new at the time.

1556
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 2: But now a retrospect, it's like, wow, it took that long,

1557
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 2: I know to.

1558
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: Show a couple that way in a way that's kind

1559
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: of like wow, you know, I don't know.

1560
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 3: But now since then, I feel like there's been so

1561
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 3: many times that we I feel like the floodgates opened.

1562
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 2: Well because we were coming off this.

1563
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:24,719
Speaker 1: You know, renaissance of like hood tails, which were also

1564
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: important and great and cinematically beautiful, but they were different

1565
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 1: slice of life for black and brown people. And then

1566
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it was like, Okay, how many

1567
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 1: versions of this can we do?

1568
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 2: And like there were where's the humanity, where's the love?

1569
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 1: Because right at the end of the day, that's really

1570
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: what is the most important thing, is love. And so

1571
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: when I read the script, I was like, I have

1572
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 1: to do this movie. And Helena Etchigoyan, who was a producer,

1573
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 1: on Friday, it was like, I have this other project

1574
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 1: I want to share with you, and she's you know,

1575
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: she was like very casual about it, but like she

1576
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 1: was on the front line fighting for black people to

1577
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,879
Speaker 1: have their stories be told. She since retired from the industry,

1578
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 1: but what she did do was incredibly important, and she

1579
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: became my friend, and you know, she guided the director

1580
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: on what to write and how to you know, put

1581
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 1: the whole thing together, and she.

1582
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 2: Got maybe she got the movie green lit.

1583
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: Wow, And it was considered a flop when it came

1584
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 1: out because it didn't make very much money. But you know,

1585
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 1: the thing is is it was a cult classic. They

1586
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 1: didn't put the money behind it, they didn't put the

1587
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 1: marketing behind it. They said, yeah, we'll do this movie,

1588
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 1: but we're not going to put much money behind it,

1589
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: and see, we'll just see what happens. And then and

1590
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: then it became a cult classic and we just did

1591
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: another film Together, which is a very different film.

1592
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 2: I love that, but I love lorenz Is the chemistry still, Yes,

1593
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 2: we still what is that?

1594
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 1: It's it's I tell them all the time. I completely

1595
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: trust him. I completely trust him.

1596
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 2: As my guy in a movie.

1597
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he completely trusts me, and I can say, like,

1598
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 1: we can have very honest conversations and we can agree

1599
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 1: or disagree, but there's a there's a there's a kinship there.

1600
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: And I think we also know what we hold for

1601
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: the community, and so we guard that and I especially

1602
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: guarded it in this last project because I was very

1603
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: like hyper sensitive to making sure.

1604
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:28,679
Speaker 2: We were in pocket.

1605
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, the standard, that's it, because you can't be what

1606
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: everyone else is doing if you're one of the originators.

1607
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 2: So that shitn't me up.

1608
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the only shit I'm going to talk

1609
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 1: today because it's not even an ego thing.

1610
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 2: It's just fat Yes, what it is? Okay, all right.

1611
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: In life, okay in real life, life, in real life.

1612
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 2: Tell me what are you most proud about about your career?

1613
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 2: And you in who you are? And I am so proud.

1614
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 1: That I've lasted this long that I still have a

1615
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: place in a space of relevance that I am so

1616
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 1: supported and beloved by women and that I, even though

1617
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't always know them, know where the love is

1618
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 1: coming from. I feel the vibration and that support and

1619
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: a genuine connection that I've been able to connect with women,

1620
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 1: with black women that look like me, that don't look

1621
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 1: like me, but are a part of who I am,

1622
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: you know, because we're all connected in some ways. So

1623
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm really proud that I've been able to make that impact.

1624
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 2: And I think that.

1625
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: They're sure there are other accolades that maybe others have

1626
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: gotten that I haven't gotten, But where I am is

1627
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 1: the sweet spot because they never leave, you know what

1628
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Like they're always there there.

1629
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:02,440
Speaker 2: I can always turn to my core.

1630
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: Group of supporters and know that they have my back,

1631
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: and that to me is more important than any award,

1632
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: than any red carpet, than any anything, because it's a

1633
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: connection to humanity and at the end of the day,

1634
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: that's what's really most important to me. I mean, the

1635
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 1: whole point of art is to make people feel something,

1636
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 1: whether it's visual, whether you're on stage, whether you're on film,

1637
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 1: on television, on the radio. Is to evoke. And that

1638
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: was your prayer today too. That's so funny to say that.

1639
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 1: I know, I just thought my prayer for the pod

1640
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 1: was that we would have a conversation that would empower, inspire,

1641
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: or make somebody feel seen.

1642
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 3: My mother's calling, Oh my, you look answer the phone.

1643
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 3: Why she just hung up and we're almost done, I know,

1644
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 3: but she'll be like, Hi, are you coming back?

1645
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 2: Okay, We're almost I thought we were going for a walk,

1646
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 2: is how.

1647
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 1: She definitely has a strong New York accent.

1648
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 2: That's very cute in real life. What are you still

1649
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:08,640
Speaker 2: working on? Myself? Forever? Forever, forever in a day, just

1650
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 2: being aware, just being conscious, just deciding what I can

1651
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 2: be better at, and deciding what I am, what I

1652
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 2: am committed to, because there's certain things that are just

1653
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 2: not going to change. When was the last time you

1654
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 2: cried from gratitude?

1655
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: The other day, I cried from gratitude actually on the

1656
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 1: flight here because of my star in Hollywood Boulevard, because

1657
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: I was thinking about the times my mom and I

1658
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 1: used to walk on Hollywood Boulevard and we would read

1659
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 1: the names of the stars on the street and she'd say, well,

1660
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,759
Speaker 1: one day you're going to have a star in Hollywood Boulevard.

1661
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 1: I was like nine, and before I even started acting,

1662
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: I was on the flight. I started crying. I started

1663
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: thinking about how incredibly blessed I am and how this

1664
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: journey has been not easy at all, and it's.

1665
01:25:56,040 --> 01:26:00,879
Speaker 2: Still not easy. But there's something cool about it because

1666
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 2: it just seemed like.

1667
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: The most unrealistic thing that could ever happen to my life,

1668
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: and now it's happening.

1669
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 3: I think you're giving me a message now too, because

1670
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 3: you know I got one for radio. They have a

1671
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 3: radio Cadina got.

1672
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,600
Speaker 2: A star on Ah. No, well I was. I received

1673
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 2: the invitation that I got. I won the thing.

1674
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 3: I yes, never have gone to accept it because number one,

1675
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 3: it's expensive.

1676
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 2: It's expense. I know, you have to get someone to

1677
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 2: pay for it. And then the Lionsgate treated me. Oh

1678
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 2: and that nice. That is nice. I thought it was

1679
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 2: really cool.

1680
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get somebody to treat me because I'm like,

1681
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 3: do I really care about this?

1682
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 2: Yess you care. I didn't know if I did, but

1683
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 2: now you're making me feel like I should.

1684
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: Well, well, here's the thing. It's not about the star

1685
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: being on the ground. It's about the acknowledgment of your

1686
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 1: body of work. And when you're gone, there's going to

1687
01:26:54,439 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: be some amazing Latina radio host who's going to look

1688
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 1: back on what you did and go, oh.

1689
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 2: She did it. I could do it too.

1690
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 1: So it's legacy, right like, and we're and because we're

1691
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: like real people, the idea of legacy is kind of like, oh,

1692
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: that's is that what I'm doing because we're as first,

1693
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 1: I'm concerned. I'm just living. I'm not planning for this

1694
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:20,879
Speaker 1: to be some legacy.

1695
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1696
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 1: But if you threaten what I've done, that's when I

1697
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 1: realize it's legacy.

1698
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 2: We're the same human being. Yeah, I'm like, you're not

1699
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:30,600
Speaker 2: about to mess up.

1700
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,639
Speaker 3: Sometimes I'll see stories and I'll feel written out of something.

1701
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 3: That's when I feel threatened. And that's the times where

1702
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, let me, let me remind, like just how

1703
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 3: you gotta remind just how you did about love Jones being.

1704
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 1: That is ours for this new storytelling, yes, or the

1705
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 1: beginning of this new storytelling or protective and that started

1706
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: in the nineties. Yeah, yeah, you gotta remind. I just

1707
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: think that's a lesson for women.

1708
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 3: Yes, whether you're an actress, whether you do what I do, whatever, Like,

1709
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,839
Speaker 3: I just think the lesson for women is like sometimes.

1710
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,560
Speaker 1: It's okay to brush your shoulders off. Yeah, remind the

1711
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 1: motherfucker all day. What's what you have?

1712
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 2: Worked really hard? Because men do it all the time. Yeah,

1713
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 2: shit was hard. It was hard, and we did some

1714
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 2: dope shit and we did dope. I did that. Yeah,

1715
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 2: in real life, what's a guilty pleasure?

1716
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: Guilty pleasure? That probably shopped too much? I probably shop

1717
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 1: to shop. That's where we're good ship.

1718
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 2: We're not the same. I hate shopping. I want you too.

1719
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 2: I want to die. I'm not even online. You don't

1720
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 2: have to go do.

1721
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 1: It online, but then it comes and I gotta try

1722
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 1: it on and I gotta ship it back if it

1723
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 1: doesn't fit.

1724
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, work of shopping. I really don't care.

1725
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: So we should vacation together, because then I wouldn't spend

1726
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: unnecessary money.

1727
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 2: If somebody could lay my clothes out for me today

1728
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 2: every day. Oh you would like that. I would.

1729
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 1: I would hate that you would, yes, because what if

1730
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm not in the mood for that?

1731
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 2: Fair enough?

1732
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 1: But if it looked fine enough, I swear and I'm like,

1733
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 1: it's fine, I'll wear this.

1734
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 2: Give me the podcast. No, that's I can't swear this.

1735
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 2: It's fine. Yeah, I can't with the shopping and the

1736
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 2: do you overpack? Yes, because I don't know what I'm

1737
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 2: gonna wear.

1738
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 1: I just throw everything in and then when I get there,

1739
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 1: I'll figure out which of this I'm gonna throw one.

1740
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 2: It's terrible. I don't have that, really, girl, Jane of like.

1741
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 1: Every You know, what I find with myself is that

1742
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm a sucker for like trying something new, so right now,

1743
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 1: and this is my goal. When I leave this New

1744
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: York trip, I have every single thing that I need.

1745
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 2: I don't need. I don't need a sock.

1746
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:41,719
Speaker 1: I have the I have the little hot, trendy Michael

1747
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 1: Jackson socks to wear with my loafers like I have it.

1748
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 2: I should have worn him today, but I didn't bring up.

1749
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 2: But it would have been cute with this out, really cute. Okay.

1750
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 1: When I get home, it's purging because now I'm at

1751
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,879
Speaker 1: the place where I only want the things that actually

1752
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 1: really work for me, and I want to give everything.

1753
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 2: Else away, the things I love.

1754
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 1: The things I love. I don't want the things I

1755
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 1: kind of love. I want these things I have a

1756
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: deep loving connection with.

1757
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 2: Besides, it's probably crazy. It's gotta be crazy crazy. You

1758
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 2: got pieces from the nineties I do in storage.

1759
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 1: I bet I still have my Kenneth Cole black snake

1760
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 1: embossed shoes that I wore when Prince tried to talk to.

1761
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 2: Me and I didn't know who it was. Prince, did

1762
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 2: you keep them? Because it was Yeah.

1763
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 1: I was like, this was the night I met Denzel

1764
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 1: Washington and Prince in the same night.

1765
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 2: I'm going to keep these. I'm keeping these pumps from

1766
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 2: my daughter because surely she'll have some. I don't. I mean,

1767
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm never going to have a daughter, but my granddaughter. Yeah,

1768
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 2: was done with kids? Was he shooting a shop? Was

1769
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 2: a shop being a prince? Yeah? Oh? Yes.

1770
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 1: He grabbed my hand and I was like, And then

1771
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:54,680
Speaker 1: we got to the car and my hate and ask

1772
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 1: girlfriend at the time, because she should have told me earlier, like,

1773
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 1: let's be re real of this Prince. She goes, girl,

1774
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 1: you know that Prince. I go, why didn't you tell

1775
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 1: me before we left the building?

1776
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:04,839
Speaker 2: So how would you inflate this different?

1777
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 1: I well, if I knew it was Prince, I would

1778
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 1: have just turned around and said hello.

1779
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:11,719
Speaker 2: And then I met him years later.

1780
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 1: Once I became an actress, and I was like, I

1781
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,759
Speaker 1: met you a long time ago, and he was lovely.

1782
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 1: But we talked about my hair the whole time because

1783
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 1: he liked my haircut. He was no longer shooting a shot,

1784
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 1: he was not. Oh, so he wasn't giving you the arm.

1785
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,520
Speaker 2: Touch because you would knee alone, because you weren't even knee alone.

1786
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 1: No, he was giving me the arm touch because I

1787
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 1: was petite and brown and that's what he likes. And

1788
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 1: you know, he's like, who's this little young hot girl

1789
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 1: in the fake leather momps.

1790
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 2: And the outpha that I wore to every party? And

1791
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 2: then what was that? How did you meet Denzel on

1792
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,599
Speaker 2: the same day? Denzel was just there?

1793
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:49,639
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't talk to Denzel at that point,

1794
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 1: but I was like, Denzel Washington's.

1795
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 2: Here putting these shoes and storage putting these shoes have

1796
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 2: miles on them in real life? What is something that

1797
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 2: you were no longer apologizing for knowing what I know?

1798
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 2: And I'm also not negotiating, m I'm not.

1799
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: I can't no apologizing, no negotiating.

1800
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 2: Now. I'm open to learning and growing and understanding.

1801
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 1: But what I know works for myself is part of

1802
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 1: my truth and that's not negotiable.

1803
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 2: Like you know, I do you might question, but you know,

1804
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 2: we always know.

1805
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 1: We always know, and we convince ourselves for other mad

1806
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 1: different reasons to ignore the things that we know.

1807
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 2: And you've known it for a long time. Yeah, so

1808
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 2: now you listen to that now.

1809
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 1: I don't even like if there's a part of me

1810
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: that even wants to try to doubt it for thirty seconds,

1811
01:32:56,080 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: I like, no, you know, it's freedom. That's where the

1812
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 1: freedom is when you know what you know. Otherwise you're

1813
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 1: like trapped inside of your head and you're yeah, so

1814
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 1: good going back and forth. Okay, last two, Yeah, do

1815
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:10,879
Speaker 1: you pray foremost?

1816
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 2: H I pay for pray for patience because I'm not

1817
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 2: the most patient person in the world. We've learned that

1818
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 2: about you. Yeah, I'm not. I try, but it's like

1819
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 2: so many things are really obvious to me that I'm like,

1820
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:27,760
Speaker 2: how do you not see that? Yeah? How do you

1821
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: not see that? Do you not see? Get away from me?

1822
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 1: Because its about to tell you that means that we're

1823
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 1: not on the same trajectory. I get really impatient when

1824
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:49,679
Speaker 1: I'm working really hard and I'm tired, and I feel

1825
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 1: like other people are not rising to their occasion listen

1826
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 1: to me, So I have to now engage in your

1827
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:01,600
Speaker 1: motherfucking occasion when I'm trying to just hold on to

1828
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, that is the realest thing. Ever, how do

1829
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:10,760
Speaker 1: you manage it? Because I just tell everyone to leave,

1830
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, get out, and then then then they never

1831
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:14,760
Speaker 1: want to come back.

1832
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 2: And then I'm like doing all the work by myself.

1833
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, bitch, you do it all you want to go?

1834
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 2: Go yeah no, and then you're like shit, I'm like.

1835
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 1: Help, well, it's you know, we will try to figure

1836
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 1: it out.

1837
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 2: No, I try to be more patient.

1838
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 1: I find that when you actually explain yourself where you're

1839
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 1: coming from, people go oh, because they're not thinking what

1840
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 1: I'm thinking. No one can read my mind. Yeah, you know,

1841
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 1: how's that working for you? The part, I think the

1842
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,839
Speaker 1: hard part about it is that when you're famous, nobody

1843
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 1: wants to really tell you, and everyone's like good caah,

1844
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 1: I got it, Oh yes.

1845
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't I really want you to understand.

1846
01:34:57,880 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 1: I don't want you to feel like you have to

1847
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:03,439
Speaker 1: placate me, like, let's have the tough conversations. Yeah, let's

1848
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 1: dig deep. Let's you can tell me that I'm being whatever.

1849
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:08,599
Speaker 1: I don't care, it's not gonna make me not like you.

1850
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. Yeah, that keeps you from having yes

1851
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 3: men around you.

1852
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:15,680
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm like, say the truth, say what it is.

1853
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let's put it on the table.

1854
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 1: Let's put it on the table and dissect it, because

1855
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 1: when we rebuild, we're gonna be.

1856
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 2: On solid foundation. If you're flimming and flamming and dipping

1857
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:26,480
Speaker 2: and dapping, I don't really.

1858
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 1: Or we can get to the truth quicker that this

1859
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:34,560
Speaker 1: doesn't work. That's it right, Yes, process of elimination.

1860
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 2: Let's just get to it.

1861
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 1: Let's get to it because in work, in relationships.

1862
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:43,640
Speaker 2: Everything, in friendships, everything, let's get to it. If we're

1863
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 2: going to be lovers, we're lovers.

1864
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 1: If we're going to be in a deep, heavy relationship

1865
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 1: where that, If we're gonna be friends where that.

1866
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 2: If we're gonna be business partners like you can do that.

1867
01:35:53,520 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 1: Yes, there's no more gray area. Yes, my queen, twin queen,

1868
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 1: I hate g gray is horrid, It's terrible.

1869
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 2: What sign are you Capricorn? Oh?

1870
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Capricorn woman. Y'all don't play what are you?

1871
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 1: I'm a scorpio? Serious about your business?

1872
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 2: A little crazy though, No Scorpios, is that is that

1873
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 2: not a thing. No, we're sexual, Oh we like to Yeah,

1874
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:21,480
Speaker 2: we're very passionate.

1875
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 1: She's sexual, she didn't say passionate. Well, those are the same.

1876
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:31,679
Speaker 1: You could be sexual and passionate. But I would say

1877
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:35,799
Speaker 1: I would say we feel things. I feel things deeply.

1878
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 1: I can't speak for every Scorpio person, but I feel things,

1879
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:42,679
Speaker 1: and I also know the truth in every situation.

1880
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 2: So people will call you crazy, but it's not that. No,

1881
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,600
Speaker 2: I'm I don't think anyone's ever called me crazy. Well,

1882
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 2: not you. I'm saying maybe they have. I don't really care.

1883
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 2: That's one of those things that I don't give a fuck.

1884
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck you call me crazy, all right?

1885
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 2: Our final question every episode to every guest.

1886
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 1: Okay, if God were to text you right now, it's

1887
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 1: a message to nia from God directly.

1888
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:12,679
Speaker 2: I'm tuning in to him. What would it say, Good

1889
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 2: job girl today or in life? In life?

1890
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 1: I think in life, good job because he knows how

1891
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 1: hard work and he also knows my heart, so that

1892
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 1: good job girl, good job.

1893
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 2: This is me along in real life. Hey guys, thanks

1894
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 2: for watching.

1895
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 1: Make sure you subscribe, like comments, and check out all

1896
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,479
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1897
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