WEBVTT - Yellowstone Isn't Just for Duttons: Tim Blixseth 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:05.400 Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio Zaren Hello, Elizabeth, Hey, 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:07.480 do you know it's ridiculous? 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:09.640 Oh my god. Yes, I didn't expect you to just. 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:11.440 Come like coming right out of the gate. You know what, 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:13.080 No nonsense, cut to the chase. 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:15.640 You know. I'm always trying to like expand how long 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:17.560 I can hold my breath underwater. It's just like one 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.599 of my own hobbies. I've been trying to get it 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:22.360 up to two and a half minutes. I'm still in 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.160 the over two, but not near near two and a half. 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:26.840 I need a lot of I need to work. My 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.200 goal is three. Anyway, My point is I looked up 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:32.000 to see how long like it is, like, what's the 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:34.120 longest thing? Was overhold their breath? Twenty four and a 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:39.400 half minutes? Twenty twenty four minutes. Yes, it's a deep No. 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:44.440 This Croatian guy Buonimir Sobat on March twenty seventh, twenty 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:46.440 twenty one, he held his breath for a total of 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:49.000 twenty four minutes and thirty seven seconds. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:49.840 No. 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:51.760 Yeah, so I looked this up to quantify it for 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:52.560 you so you could put. 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:56.240 This people in the briny deep wood. Yeah, they've been 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:57.320 holding it forever. 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.680 Correctly Baby Jones's locker crowd with these in terms you 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:02.720 would relate to, And that's the way I didn't want 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:04.319 you to be like, why that can't be possible. I 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:06.320 was like, no, I'll put these in terms of you 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.520 can relate to. In the December is song Sunshine, there's 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:13.760 a line, why hold your breath until your face turns blue? 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.800 That song is two minutes and twenty four seconds long, Yeah, 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.560 which means you could hear that song ten times, ten 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.080 point two, five sixty nine times in the full twenty 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.960 four minutes and thirty seven seconds that that dude Budamir 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:29.080 sobat held his breath underwater, you could hear Colin malloy 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.680 sing that line, why hold your breath until your face 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:35.120 turns blue? Yeah, ten times before you gave up her hair. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:36.400 That's ridiculous. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:38.679 That is ridiculous. And I also just don't buy it. 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:40.600 You don't buy it. 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.840 You've seen people, oh yeah, does he have brain damage? 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.280 They trained so that they're they're basically their whole body 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.880 is oxygenated, so they're not requiring as much pull for 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.040 oxygen as we would think. They train their body to 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.760 just hold air really long. 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.720 Straw he just hasn't really like string and they give 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:01.480 you say, guys who go down dive deep and they 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.520 pull themselves down by by a rope, they can get 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:05.320 further and further, and they're letting out air, but they're 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.920 also compressing it, and they're moving air around inside their 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:11.040 lungs inside of different like sections, if you will, and 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:12.120 then releasing bits. 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.280 It's why I'm telling you I'm so far behind these guys. 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:18.640 Why I just keep saying, what Dave, That guy could 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:20.640 hold his breath all the way through Joan in the 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:28.200 garden and time. Yeah, we're talking in our December's terms. 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:29.880 My god, that ridiculous. 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:31.120 That is really ridiculous. 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:33.520 I can do like the human animals. 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.280 I can do like forty five seconds, can you No, 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.000 I'll put you down for like thirty eight tops. I 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.760 don't know. I don't want to try. You know what else? 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:42.640 This is ridiculous. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:43.799 No, I do not. I'm all out. 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:46.440 Lawsuits on lawsuits on lawsuits. 0:02:46.480 --> 0:03:09.480 Oh flax, Yeah, this is ridiculous. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:14.120 Crime a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists, and cons. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:16.919 It's always ninety nine percent murder free and one hundred 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:21.320 percent ridiculous. Oh damn right, that's right. I am you 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.360 and I have talked about that show Yellowstone. Yeah, total, 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:26.320 you're a fan of it and it's spin offs. 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.320 Yes, I like eighteen sixty three and I liked the first. 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:30.919 And nineteen ty threes are eighteen eighty three? 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.080 What did I say? Eighteen sixty three? Eighteen matter? 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:34.440 Who cares? 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.960 I got thrown by the Gemstones. They did like a 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.280 knockoff eighteen sixty three or eighteen sixty two, I don't know. 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.160 They did it in one of other episodes recently. They 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.560 did like a back story and it had to take 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:45.200 place in Sam. 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.600 I'm cursed to share a name with a character from 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:54.120 the show. Oh right, from both Yellowstone and nineteen twenty whatever, 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.640 nineteen twenty three. Yeah, so's it's a lot for me. 0:03:57.800 --> 0:03:59.040 Yeah, I bet, I bet you got a lot of 0:03:59.040 --> 0:03:59.640 fan mail. 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:04.240 Yeah, I do. Before there was Yellowstone, people sending you 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.360 like steaks in the mail all the time. It was great. 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.520 Before there was Yellowstone, the Kevin Costner vehicle that's part 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.960 of a franchise with a Pynchon for depicting the brutalization 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:19.520 of women. There was the Yellowstone Club, more on that later, 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:24.560 And before there was the Yellowstone Club, there was Tim Blixeth. 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.040 So I know this named Tim Blicks. 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.240 Tim blick Seth, You say, Elizabeth, Yes, Elizabeth, that Tim 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.680 blick Seth. You haven't heard of Tim blick Seth. 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:35.400 I mean I don't. I'm not supposed to tell. I 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:36.799 mean lame I signed. 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.680 Well, neither had I until a few days ago. Oh really, yeah, 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:43.640 So he is a kid in rural Oregon. His family 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:47.920 was painfully poor. He hunted to put food on the table. 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.839 So they were eating like tree bark. Yeah, like critters, 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:51.520 like old shoes. 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:56.359 Yea. His dad was a Lutheran minister who'd immigrated to 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.240 the US from Norway. So this is sounding very like. 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.960 Oregon Trail and he's not a very good man, very. 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.560 Yellowstone spin off eighteen eighty three. Well, Tim was born 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:06.520 in nineteen fifty. 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:11.479 Oh wow, Okay, a lot. 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.240 Of his early story is like super frontier man stuff. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.560 So according to his website, yes, he's got a website, 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:19.920 so you know this is all going to be really good. Quote. 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.719 I grew up on welfare in a tiny town called Roseberg, Oregon. 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.320 We were so poor that I had to hunt deer 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.919 and elk to put meat on my family's table and 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.560 endured the taunts of my classmates when I lined up 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.560 for free lunches in the school cafeteria. My parents did 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.839 the best they could for my four older sisters and me, 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.920 but as a boy, I ate more government provided spam 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.560 than I care to remember. Tell it he had a 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:43.120 rough one. 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:43.400 Yeah. 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.720 To add to that, he was raised in an apocalyptic 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:53.240 Christian cult. Oh well, he called it a mini cult quote, 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.400 not nearly as big or sophisticated as. 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:56.640 Song oh scale. 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:01.120 It was called Jesus Name of Oneness. And that's different 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:05.200 than Oneness theology that rejects its Pentecostals who like reject 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:09.360 the Trinity. This was his parents, like homegrown blend. 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:12.280 His family cult. 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.320 Yeah, like his family did it. According to his CNN 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:18.840 Money article, quote, the blick sets belong to what Tim 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.120 describes as quote a local cult known as the Jesus 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.120 Name of Oneness. It had sixty seven people in it, 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.880 and it was just very strange, he explains during an 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.880 interview one day last fall from the forty five hundred 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.440 dollars a night Botaga Vanetta Suite at the Saint Regis 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.560 Hotel on Fifth Avenue. What I know they like the 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:40.480 whiplash David. You've come a long way, baby, I'm telling you. Yeah. 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.560 So he got to love a local cult. Yeah you do. 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:49.120 Anyway to continue his pioneer childhood, we hear from the 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:53.400 Great Falls Tribune quote he discovered his knack for the 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.479 art of the deal when he was thirteen. He bought 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:00.240 three donkeys for twenty five dollars each and what told 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.520 him a few weeks later now touted as pack mules 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.400 for a profit of one hundred and fifty dollars. After 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.040 high school, he worked in a sawmill, then moved into 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:09.800 buying timber. 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:13.920 So he rebranded some Docus. 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.760 Pack mules timber. I'm loving this is like Oregon in 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:20.480 the early sixties. Yeah. So this little log cabin hustler, right, 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.240 he's selling donkeys. Not enough, he goes he wants to 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.680 go bigger. He was still in high school when he 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:26.679 got into real estate. 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:28.400 One of those kids. 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.400 He bought a house and he flipped it. He sold 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:35.600 it to one of his teachers, and that was just 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:37.760 the beginning. Like so in a few years he's doing 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.200 like big land deals. Like he's got that thing like 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:41.960 where you start out with a paper clip and you 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.160 try and trade it to get stuff. That's like bigger 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.160 and bigger. I did not like those games no anyway, 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.920 Like I would just be like I like paper clips. 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:54.280 And then the first thing exactly. 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.119 With this, So he was like he would have rocked 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:00.920 it in that. So he's doing in real estate stuff, 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:02.840 but that wasn't his day job. He worked in a 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.200 timber yard. He was bundling cedar shingles. 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:07.240 What is that? 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:09.840 You know what a cedar shingle is for a roof? Yeah, 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:11.440 he bundled them together. 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.160 But I mean, is that like a thing like were 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:14.960 he is he inventing this sarin? 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.000 They're not going to bundle themselves that. Yeah, he was 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.640 just like on the on the job, like wrap and twine. 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:23.560 So that you guys ever thought about selling these in 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.160 bulk time? 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.119 Yeah, bundling them up? They're like put them in packs 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:28.800 of twenty five. 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:30.760 He was selling exactly. 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:35.160 So a while away at the time, he hummed tunes 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:38.200 to himself. Okay, because as a kid, he wasn't allowed 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.360 to listen to music because that part of the doomsday. 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:46.080 No music, no playtime, no holidays. Yeah, but he loves 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.440 music like it's it's a part of him, and so 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.520 he would sneak a radio into his room and listen 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.720 quietly at night to like the hits of the day. 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:54.240 Okay. 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.040 He loved to listen to music, create it, perform it. 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:58.840 It was his passion, a passion. 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:00.920 It's like, so he's like it's like foot loose, yes, 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:02.600 but less dancing, more music. Yes. 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:06.480 And he looked he did not look like Bacon. That's okay, 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.920 it's fine. Did he look like Timothy Salome Jesus won this? No, 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:13.400 I don't think he did. So he was passionate about music, 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.839 but he was also passionate about money. Oh and that 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:17.760 took the front seat. 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:18.719 I bet it did. 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.160 Yeah. So by the time he's in his thirties, he 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.400 was like a timber property baller. 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.760 Oh, thirty thirties, tons of. 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:30.720 Investments, lots of land, so much woodland. You have no 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.720 idea this man got wood. Yeah, I mean it wasn't 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.320 easy to get there. Like a decade earlier, it was 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:36.760 wasn't going. 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.360 So how were you getting into the wood industry in 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.640 this seventies eighties, eighties? I mean I figured that'd be 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.120 kind of locked up in family, like Wirehouser and all 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:46.360 these Like. 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.960 When you're when you can trade a paper cliph you 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.320 know what you're doing. According to Willamette Week quote in 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:56.040 the late nineteen seventies, he crashed hard in this way. 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.960 He left dozens of enemies furious. Creditors claimed he used 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.320 bankruptcy is a slick dodge. Others charged that he's a 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.640 mercenary con man who talked them out of their money. 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:07.280 Oh okay, so there it is. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:08.319 That's how he got in Columbia. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.480 That's how he got a little peak behind the curtain. 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:12.800 I mean, I wouldn't be telling you about him otherwise 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.480 I should have remembered that. Yeah. So while he had 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:19.000 all these assets in his thirties, he wasn't necessarily sharing 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.120 that truth. So there are some court documents from nineteen 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:24.959 eighty two where he said his monthly income was zero dollars. 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.160 I've been there, brother, zero point zero zero. 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.840 And somehow he was still at the same time investing 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:32.120 in restaurants in real estate. 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:33.440 Okay, have not been there. 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.880 Yeah, me neither. And for someone you know whose income 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:38.680 was zero point zero zero, I. 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:39.240 Can speak to this. 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:40.359 He was living pretty. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.439 Well, much better than I ever was. At zero point zeros. 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:44.680 He said he couldn't pay child support because at this 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:46.320 point he had kids and was divorced. 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:47.280 Oh, he's dodging a lot. 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.359 But he could go on vacations to like Hawaii and Disneyland. 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:51.800 Crazy money manager, this guy. 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.160 He also could use a helicopter to pick up his 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.120 kids when it was his turn for visitation. 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.120 So this is like a perfect balance. He's going off. Yeah, 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:03.000 zero point, zero point. My costs and the main come 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:04.360 are perfectly balanced. 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:08.520 Zero's out. So in eighty three he married his second wife, Edra. 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:12.600 Crocker Okay from the Crocker fan. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:15.680 From the Yeah from the Country Crockers, Elizabeth, how do 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.360 you do it? Edra was a partner in a local 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:22.720 hotel and restaurant business called Chow Chow Willies. I don't know, 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.240 I just really had to put that in there when 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:28.439 I saw so at this point, Tim straight up lumber baron, 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.360 and uh, I mean, obviously is one who was making 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:33.200 zero dollars. 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.679 Of course it's a very well balanced lumber baron. 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:37.600 But I'm going to start telling people that my job 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.959 is lumber baron when they ask work. It's a great title. 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:41.439 Yeah, and just remember to tell me that so I 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:45.600 can confirm what's your lumber bearon on page? 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:49.760 Yeah, you're like Elizabeth, Oh, yeah, lumber bear, I forgot 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:54.520 zero points zero in the woods. So Tim, by eighty six, 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:58.400 his fortunes had shifted once again. He was fifteen million 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:02.080 dollars in debt and he had only four grand in assets. 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.360 Did he get caught in the market downturn eighty six? 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.520 Yeah's eighty seven eighty seven? 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.960 Yeah, the Black Monday saving October. Yeah, but I'm saying 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.080 that you still have a lot of those pressures coming. Yeah. 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:18.000 I think it's just I think he operates independent of 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:22.520 those things. I mean, he counts on the woods. He's 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.360 he's killing so dinner. So what's the guy to do? 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:26.480 It's still raining when. 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.440 You when you have fifteen million dollars? 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:29.960 Yeah, what is a man that he's supposed to do? 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:34.840 K bankruptcy? Oh British knights man, you got a lock 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.400 up like a British Knights cool ideal. They get into 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:42.440 the king now, he and his wife they declared bankruptcy 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:44.800 in like a real way, not in the Michael Scott 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:49.520 way shout So. But then another three years go by 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.160 and guess what, he's rich again? Whoa, And he's now 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:53.200 a real estate developer. 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:54.760 So he declared emotional bankruptcy. 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.680 Yeah, he's I don't know any money, but now I do. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:12:59.720 Now he's developing real estate. 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.120 So he's in a real estate and stone lumber. I 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:02.839 imagine he. 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.400 Also no, he also ran got out, He ran his 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:06.160 own record label. 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:11.360 I should keep up. I'm going to fast forward here. 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.840 We're gonna jump from the late nineties to two thousand 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:17.400 and five. Brace hold on tight. Here's a little snip 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.960 snip from his website quote. In August two thousand and five, 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.960 I sat glued to my TV as the Category five 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.920 storm known as Hurricane Katrina touchdown in the Gulf of Mexico. 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.599 As I watched the devastation and sheer desperation of the 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:33.600 people of the Gulf, I knew I had to do 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.880 my part. Sure Fortunately, guidance arrived in the form of 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.880 a song, Heart of America. Came to me in a 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.880 dream at three am, almost like it had already been 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:44.280 written a long time ago. 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.599 Why yeah, I remember he got back into music. 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.000 Watching Katrina on TV. 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:50.760 Oh yeah, totally. 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.559 I was actually living in Glasgow at the time. 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:53.720 I was living in San Francisco. 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.600 It was surreal to be that far away, Adam. 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:58.559 That was my birthday. I had a birthday party and 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:02.280 we all watched it. I was planning New Orleans, no way, 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.920 I watched my plans go away. 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.040 I was I flipped back and forth between BBC and Sky. 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:08.360 News. 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:12.720 Coverage was really slow to relay news, but everything was 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.800 like confirmed truey was coming in fast and furious, but 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.880 only like forty. They'd interview people waiting down the street 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:22.720 and they'd make some wild claim and Sky was like, 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:23.680 all right, here's the news. 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:26.680 So we just heard from Greg. 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.640 I watched the coverage and my heart ripped open for people. 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:31.360 It's terrible. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.600 I waited for news of my great uncle. He was 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:38.840 down there in Gulf Coort. He survived. But the thing is, 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:40.200 I didn't write a song about it. 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:41.520 No, you did not. I don't remember. 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.720 I didn't even write a poem about it. But Tim 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.960 he wrote a goldern song for the people, but he 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:53.320 didn't perform it. You know who did who? Michael McDonald 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.120 actually Michael McDonald. 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:56.360 Known a Judd Wait what? 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.520 And Eric Benney and you know what, Jay Z says, 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.240 never go Eric Binney. I don't even know what else 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:05.840 to say. So you don't need The Today Show on 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:12.200 NBC they used the song for Katrina relief coverage and. 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:16.000 Then wait, wait what NBC NB Today Show, how did 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.440 he get Michael mcdoni claims or that it raised more 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.760 than one hundred and twenty million dollars for hurricane relief charities. 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:26.160 What So, Yeah, I watched the video You're welcome. 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.440 But it's like when Kanye said, George don't care about 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.040 black people, Like there's going on? Is this a song 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.280 in like that type of they have performed it? 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:34.440 Then? 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:39.160 Probably? So I watched the video. It's behind the scene 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:42.600 footage of the recording mixed in with like media coverage 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:46.120 of the hurricanes aftermath. So there's Michael McDonald rolling into 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:50.320 the studio, thank you for having me, that's what he says. 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:54.200 It is good on and then it cuts to someone 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.640 like weeping on a damp sidewalk next to an empty 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.720 shopping cart. And then it's like Michael McDonald to Michael 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.400 McColl up in the microphone. He's like doing his thing 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.680 while reading the lyrics off a sheet of paper in 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.800 his hands. And then there's like a shot of people 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:08.960 on a rooftop, water lapping at their feet as they 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.600 wait for help. Huh. Then it cuts to Winona Judds 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:15.040 singing at the mic and y'all, I'll say, like, you know, 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:20.440 doesn't she remind you of anyway? So then like there's 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.360 like a shot of an elderly person on a pool 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.920 float being pushed through like waste deep water on a 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.440 major street by someone in a soap under shirt. And 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:31.200 then now we cut to Eric Benet sitting sitting with 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.480 Tim in the studio like conferring over key changes or something, 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:38.280 and Eric Benet then smiles and like congratulates Tim, and 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.760 then cut to someone sitting on the ground outside the Superdome. 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:42.680 We bing, like you get it. It's very weird of 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:43.120 the world. 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:44.800 My spirits are half listen. 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:49.240 Yeah, I mine weren't. So that's Tim's music. Let's get 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:50.760 back to his land man stuff. 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:54.240 So I'm so confused. Okay, I'm going with you. 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.040 We're gonna go back. We're gonna go back now to 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:56.760 the late eighties. 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:58.880 Wow, because I just know I mentioned he had. 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.040 A record label. I looked into it. I had to 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.200 talk about this. Let's go back anyway, So late eighties, 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:08.520 Tim did a big deal. He swapped one hundred thousand 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.399 acres that he and these two partners had in Montana, 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.919 and the swap was with the US government. Oh. It 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:18.000 took two specialized acts of Congress to make it happen. 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:22.840 What Yeah, So the partnership divided up this new government land. 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.800 Other two dudes took the land with viable timber reserves, 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.399 and Tim took some primo real estate with potential killer 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.959 ski slopes. And I'm going to stop here for some ads. 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:58.560 And when we return, Tim's going to make big money moves. Zarin, 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:00.720 We're back. Did you miss me? 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:01.800 I did? I always do it. 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:03.960 I was over on the ones and twos, remixing and 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:08.880 curating those adverts. The thought of my work spend money, y'all. 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.439 So when I left off Tim he picked up a 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.639 huge parcels Montana lands to develop. 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:16.720 He finessed the government. 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.000 It took him almost a decade to see his dream 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:21.680 become a reality, but he pulled it off. 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:23.520 Well. He held onto that lamp for oh yeah, and 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:23.760 he was. 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:27.480 Working on it, working at the Yellowstone Club, Like what's 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:28.040 thattle is it? 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.200 What is the yellow Stone Questions? That was related to 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:31.040 the hell Fire Club. 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.720 It opened in nineteen ninety seven, and that's all you 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:37.240 need to know. Yeah, Oh, Zarah and I kid Tim 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:40.240 and his wife. They cooked up a massive playground for 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:40.800 the walthy. 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:42.280 They love those. Yeah. 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:46.880 This thing was from what I hear, six hundred acres okay, Yeah. 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.359 It was a private club. There were homes you could buy. 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:53.560 There was a golf course, a gigantic ski resort, seventy 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.920 five runs what just outside a big sky of Montana. 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:00.119 It was like twenty miles north of Yellowstone National Park. 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:04.880 The clubhouse was decorated in the very like luxe design. 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.120