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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio Zaren Hello, Elizabeth, Hey,

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Speaker 1: do you know it's ridiculous?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yes, I didn't expect you to just.

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Speaker 1: Come like coming right out of the gate. You know what,

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Speaker 1: No nonsense, cut to the chase.

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Speaker 2: You know. I'm always trying to like expand how long

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Speaker 2: I can hold my breath underwater. It's just like one

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Speaker 2: of my own hobbies. I've been trying to get it

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Speaker 2: up to two and a half minutes. I'm still in

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Speaker 2: the over two, but not near near two and a half.

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Speaker 2: I need a lot of I need to work. My

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Speaker 2: goal is three. Anyway, My point is I looked up

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Speaker 2: to see how long like it is, like, what's the

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Speaker 2: longest thing? Was overhold their breath? Twenty four and a

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Speaker 2: half minutes? Twenty twenty four minutes. Yes, it's a deep No.

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Speaker 2: This Croatian guy Buonimir Sobat on March twenty seventh, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one, he held his breath for a total of

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Speaker 2: twenty four minutes and thirty seven seconds.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I looked this up to quantify it for

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Speaker 2: you so you could put.

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Speaker 1: This people in the briny deep wood. Yeah, they've been

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Speaker 1: holding it forever.

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Speaker 2: Correctly Baby Jones's locker crowd with these in terms you

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Speaker 2: would relate to, And that's the way I didn't want

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Speaker 2: you to be like, why that can't be possible. I

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Speaker 2: was like, no, I'll put these in terms of you

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Speaker 2: can relate to. In the December is song Sunshine, there's

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Speaker 2: a line, why hold your breath until your face turns blue?

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Speaker 2: That song is two minutes and twenty four seconds long, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: which means you could hear that song ten times, ten

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Speaker 2: point two, five sixty nine times in the full twenty

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Speaker 2: four minutes and thirty seven seconds that that dude Budamir

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Speaker 2: sobat held his breath underwater, you could hear Colin malloy

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Speaker 2: sing that line, why hold your breath until your face

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Speaker 2: turns blue? Yeah, ten times before you gave up her hair.

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Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: That is ridiculous. And I also just don't buy it.

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Speaker 2: You don't buy it.

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Speaker 1: You've seen people, oh yeah, does he have brain damage?

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Speaker 2: They trained so that they're they're basically their whole body

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Speaker 2: is oxygenated, so they're not requiring as much pull for

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Speaker 2: oxygen as we would think. They train their body to

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Speaker 2: just hold air really long.

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Speaker 3: Straw he just hasn't really like string and they give

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Speaker 3: you say, guys who go down dive deep and they

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Speaker 3: pull themselves down by by a rope, they can get

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Speaker 3: further and further, and they're letting out air, but they're

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Speaker 3: also compressing it, and they're moving air around inside their

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Speaker 3: lungs inside of different like sections, if you will, and

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Speaker 3: then releasing bits.

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Speaker 2: It's why I'm telling you I'm so far behind these guys.

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Speaker 1: Why I just keep saying, what Dave, That guy could

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Speaker 1: hold his breath all the way through Joan in the

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Speaker 1: garden and time. Yeah, we're talking in our December's terms.

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Speaker 2: My god, that ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: That is really ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I can do like the human animals.

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Speaker 1: I can do like forty five seconds, can you No,

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Speaker 1: I'll put you down for like thirty eight tops. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want to try. You know what else?

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Speaker 1: This is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: No, I do not. I'm all out.

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Speaker 1: Lawsuits on lawsuits on lawsuits.

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Speaker 4: Oh flax, Yeah, this is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Crime a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists, and cons.

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Speaker 1: It's always ninety nine percent murder free and one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent ridiculous. Oh damn right, that's right. I am you

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Speaker 1: and I have talked about that show Yellowstone. Yeah, total,

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Speaker 1: you're a fan of it and it's spin offs.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I like eighteen sixty three and I liked the first.

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Speaker 1: And nineteen ty threes are eighteen eighty three?

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Speaker 2: What did I say? Eighteen sixty three? Eighteen matter?

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Speaker 1: Who cares?

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Speaker 2: I got thrown by the Gemstones. They did like a

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Speaker 2: knockoff eighteen sixty three or eighteen sixty two, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: They did it in one of other episodes recently. They

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Speaker 2: did like a back story and it had to take

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Speaker 1: I'm cursed to share a name with a character from

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Speaker 1: the show. Oh right, from both Yellowstone and nineteen twenty whatever,

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Speaker 1: nineteen twenty three. Yeah, so's it's a lot for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet, I bet you got a lot of

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Speaker 2: fan mail.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. Before there was Yellowstone, people sending you

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Speaker 1: like steaks in the mail all the time. It was great.

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Speaker 1: Before there was Yellowstone, the Kevin Costner vehicle that's part

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Speaker 1: of a franchise with a Pynchon for depicting the brutalization

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Speaker 1: of women. There was the Yellowstone Club, more on that later,

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Speaker 1: And before there was the Yellowstone Club, there was Tim Blixeth.

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Speaker 2: So I know this named Tim Blicks.

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Speaker 1: Tim blick Seth, You say, Elizabeth, Yes, Elizabeth, that Tim

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Speaker 1: blick Seth. You haven't heard of Tim blick Seth.

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't. I'm not supposed to tell. I

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Speaker 2: mean lame I signed.

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Speaker 1: Well, neither had I until a few days ago. Oh really, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So he is a kid in rural Oregon. His family

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Speaker 1: was painfully poor. He hunted to put food on the table.

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Speaker 2: So they were eating like tree bark. Yeah, like critters,

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Speaker 1: Yea. His dad was a Lutheran minister who'd immigrated to

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Speaker 2: Oregon Trail and he's not a very good man, very.

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Speaker 1: Yellowstone spin off eighteen eighty three. Well, Tim was born

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, Okay, a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of his early story is like super frontier man stuff.

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Speaker 1: So according to his website, yes, he's got a website,

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Speaker 1: so you know this is all going to be really good. Quote.

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Speaker 1: I grew up on welfare in a tiny town called Roseberg, Oregon.

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Speaker 1: We were so poor that I had to hunt deer

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Speaker 1: endured the taunts of my classmates when I lined up

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Speaker 1: but as a boy, I ate more government provided spam

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Speaker 1: than I care to remember. Tell it he had a

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Speaker 1: To add to that, he was raised in an apocalyptic

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Speaker 1: Christian cult. Oh well, he called it a mini cult quote,

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Speaker 1: not nearly as big or sophisticated as.

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Speaker 1: It was called Jesus Name of Oneness. And that's different

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Speaker 1: than Oneness theology that rejects its Pentecostals who like reject

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Speaker 1: the Trinity. This was his parents, like homegrown blend.

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Speaker 2: His family cult.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like his family did it. According to his CNN

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Speaker 1: Money article, quote, the blick sets belong to what Tim

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Speaker 1: Name of Oneness. It had sixty seven people in it,

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Speaker 1: and it was just very strange, he explains during an

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Speaker 1: Hotel on Fifth Avenue. What I know they like the

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Speaker 1: whiplash David. You've come a long way, baby, I'm telling you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So he got to love a local cult. Yeah you do.

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Speaker 1: Anyway to continue his pioneer childhood, we hear from the

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Speaker 1: art of the deal when he was thirteen. He bought

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Speaker 1: buying timber.

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Speaker 2: So he rebranded some Docus.

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Speaker 1: Pack mules timber. I'm loving this is like Oregon in

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Speaker 1: the early sixties. Yeah. So this little log cabin hustler, right,

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Speaker 1: got into real estate.

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Speaker 2: One of those kids.

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Speaker 1: He bought a house and he flipped it. He sold

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Speaker 2: And then the first thing exactly.

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Speaker 1: With this, So he was like he would have rocked

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Speaker 1: but that wasn't his day job. He worked in a

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Speaker 1: You know what a cedar shingle is for a roof? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: They're not going to bundle themselves that. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 2: So that you guys ever thought about selling these in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bundling them up? They're like put them in packs

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Speaker 1: So a while away at the time, he hummed tunes

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Speaker 1: He loved to listen to music, create it, perform it.

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Speaker 2: It's like, so he's like it's like foot loose, yes,

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Speaker 1: And he looked he did not look like Bacon. That's okay,

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Speaker 1: it's fine. Did he look like Timothy Salome Jesus won this? No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he did. So he was passionate about music,

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Speaker 1: but he was also passionate about money. Oh and that

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Speaker 2: I bet it did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So by the time he's in his thirties, he

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Speaker 2: Oh, thirty thirties, tons of.

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Speaker 1: Investments, lots of land, so much woodland. You have no

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Speaker 1: idea this man got wood. Yeah, I mean it wasn't

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Speaker 2: So how were you getting into the wood industry in

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Speaker 1: When you're when you can trade a paper cliph you

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Speaker 1: know what you're doing. According to Willamette Week quote in

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Speaker 1: the late nineteen seventies, he crashed hard in this way.

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Speaker 1: He left dozens of enemies furious. Creditors claimed he used

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Speaker 1: bankruptcy is a slick dodge. Others charged that he's a

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Speaker 1: mercenary con man who talked them out of their money.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so there it is.

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Speaker 2: That's how he got in Columbia.

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Speaker 1: That's how he got a little peak behind the curtain.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't be telling you about him otherwise

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Speaker 1: I should have remembered that. Yeah. So while he had

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Speaker 1: But he could go on vacations to like Hawaii and Disneyland.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what is a man that he's supposed to do?

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Speaker 2: So he declared emotional bankruptcy.

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Speaker 2: I should keep up. I'm going to fast forward here.

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Speaker 2: Why yeah, I remember he got back into music.

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Speaker 1: I was I flipped back and forth between BBC and Sky.

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Speaker 1: Coverage was really slow to relay news, but everything was

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Speaker 1: I watched the coverage and my heart ripped open for people.

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Speaker 2: It's terrible.

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Speaker 2: No, you did not. I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even write a poem about it. But Tim

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Speaker 1: didn't perform it. You know who did who? Michael McDonald

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Speaker 2: Known a Judd Wait what?

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Speaker 1: And Eric Benney and you know what, Jay Z says,

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Speaker 2: Then wait, wait what NBC NB Today Show, how did

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Speaker 2: he get Michael mcdoni claims or that it raised more

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Speaker 1: What So, Yeah, I watched the video You're welcome.

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Speaker 1: We bing, like you get it. It's very weird of

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Speaker 2: My spirits are half listen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mine weren't. So that's Tim's music. Let's get

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Speaker 2: So I'm so confused. Okay, I'm going with you.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go back. We're gonna go back now to

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Speaker 1: Tim did a big deal. He swapped one hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: What Yeah, So the partnership divided up this new government land.

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Speaker 1: And when we return, Tim's going to make big money moves. Zarin,

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Speaker 2: I did? I always do it.

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Speaker 1: So when I left off Tim he picked up a

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Speaker 1: It took him almost a decade to see his dream

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Speaker 1: Working on it, working at the Yellowstone Club, Like what's

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Speaker 2: What is the yellow Stone Questions? That was related to

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Speaker 1: It opened in nineteen ninety seven, and that's all you

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Speaker 2: They love those. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: This thing was from what I hear, six hundred acres okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There was a golf course, a gigantic ski resort, seventy

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Speaker 2: Oh god, the ski run that's what I want, fishakes.

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Speaker 1: The ski runs had names like lear Jet Glades.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to look it up. I said that out

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Speaker 1: Oh that would be.

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Speaker 1: It's a total like fat cat shokes. Oh yeah, so

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Speaker 2: So it's like eyes wide shut. The ski resort.

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Speaker 1: Here no, no, keep them away. And they were paying

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Speaker 2: Course, and to be around each other so they could know,

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00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: I see you. You're here too, We're both here.

443
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 1: People like Bill Gates, he was an early investor alongside

444
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 1: Mary Heart of entertainment tonight.

445
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,640
Speaker 2: Shame he could finally and be Mary Heart.

446
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if you had all the money in the world,

447
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't you want to rub shoulders with Mary Hart?

448
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 2: Would fight to get there.

449
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 1: Dan Quail of not knowing how to spell potato fame.

450
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 2: How do I get into this room?

451
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 1: Apparently Bill Gates loved the club because you didn't need

452
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: to have security with you on the slopes or in

453
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 1: the club. Exclusive they had their own security for it

454
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 1: was all ex secret service.

455
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 2: Oh god.

456
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was marketed with the phrase private powder. All right,

457
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: I gotcha.

458
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: They have never changed, by the way, rich people the same,

459
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 2: never since ancient Rome. Before then, the agent by.

460
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: The decor may have been over the top, but the

461
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: whole vibe was very discreet. So like club members, they

462
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: didn't talk about the place to the media. They didn't

463
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 1: kind of divulge each other like oh they remember they

464
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 1: were gifted this anonymity and in a rare move for

465
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: a place like that, it was totally family friendly. The

466
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 1: kids were super welcomes, like most of these like exclusives

467
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 1: want to get Yeah, yeah, they want to. They want

468
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: to you know. Yeah, so just t shirts, no pants.

469
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: And that's everyone's dress. I mean, and then and then

470
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 2: little sun coverage up top.

471
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: People get to see that. Oh my god, you have

472
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: a little curly tail. That's how that works. You're not familiar.

473
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: According to the Bozeman Daily Chronicle quote, Surrounding the mountains

474
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: are fourteen three hundred acres of club property, most of

475
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: it under a conservation easement. Members can ride horses or

476
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: hike or bicycle if they crave a little privacy. Alongside

477
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 1: the ski slopes sky Crane's loom building more mansions. Business

478
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: is brisk. Last year, that's two thousand and seven, the

479
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: club sold ninety five million dollars worth of real estate,

480
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: according to club executives, bringing the total above one billion

481
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: dollars over the past ten years.

482
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 2: Selling really so they're basically selling condos.

483
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, essentially like mansions and then condos in the inside

484
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: the complex. Yeah, The one hundred and twenty thousand square

485
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: foot lodge contains ski shops and restaurants, lobbies and bars,

486
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: and lots of big gas fired fireplaces.

487
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: So they don't have like one central fire. People gather

488
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 2: around to drink hot chocolate. They got all these individuals.

489
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: People can be sitting in their an little they go on.

490
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: Fine art adorns the walls, Bronze statuary stands guard everywhere,

491
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: the wineless broadze statuary.

492
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got like knights standing at the door like

493
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: wooden Indians.

494
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's say they do all right. I just

495
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: it's like every five feet is a knight's armor.

496
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 2: Totally, like let's go, Yeah, I got done. Pictures like

497
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 2: a British cat, and.

498
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 1: Then like in between each one is a grandfather claw.

499
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: Exactly see them.

500
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: It's very Scooby Do, like Nancy Drew put together.

501
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: What was the article? Say, okay, quote the wine list

502
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: will blow your hair back. A lot of night train

503
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: that's why, or at least, the prices will almost everywhere

504
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: you look, and employees cleaning something. The furniture is heavy,

505
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: the spaces are expansive, ceilings rise and rise and rise.

506
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: The heat bill must be incredible. Upstairs, you find condominiums,

507
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: some serviced by private elevators.

508
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: I'm so glad I'm a millionaire. It sounds insufferable every

509
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 2: time I've been around people like this, but.

510
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: It's the worst.

511
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 2: I like people.

512
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's really hard to be wealthy like that.

513
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 2: I bet have a hard time. Yeah, you must suffer.

514
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: I really do the houses there not these rustic cabins

515
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: in line with the places where these people live. So

516
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: there's like wine cellars, movie theaters, spas. The New York

517
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: Times talked about this one spec house called the River

518
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: runs through it home Wow. Quote featured an all glass

519
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: passageway to the guest quarters with a heated river flowing

520
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: beneath it.

521
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, it's like for a glass hallway.

522
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but is it like a lazy river in a

523
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: water park? So your kids are floating in it? So good?

524
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 1: This is just the smell of CHLORINEK.

525
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: You're able to work here. I have, Oh, bodily, function's gotten.

526
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: It should come as no surprise though it was not

527
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: cheap to join.

528
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: Up what I thought this sounded reasonable, like.

529
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: A coupon book thirty eight thousand dollars to give you

530
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: one of those you know, when people are buying or

531
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: selling those charity coops.

532
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, theyk o the kids go door to door? Yeah,

533
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 2: did you want chocolate? How about magazine? How about a

534
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: membership to the Jackson clubes a minimum sorry Yellowstone.

535
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: Minimum initial fee five.

536
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: Dollars, thirty would have gotten.

537
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: Two and fifty thousand dollars.

538
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: I was so close. I know it.

539
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's a margin of era.

540
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 2: In the grand scheme of things with much bigger numbers.

541
00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 2: It would have been you.

542
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: Pay that you buy in two hundred and fifty grand.

543
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: But then you also have to buy a home or

544
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: a condo, so you're looking at anywhere between five million

545
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: and thirty five million there. And then there's annual dues

546
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: that are like twenty grand, which I think is low.

547
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 2: Do they have a homeowners association?

548
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: If people coming down you can't.

549
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: Paint your door that he needs your Mary Hart complained.

550
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: And then to qualify for membership you had to have

551
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: a minimum of three million dollars in liquid assets.

552
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 2: I missed it.

553
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm so close. It says right on the website quote

554
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: or it did at the time. Sometimes you have to

555
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: pay to play.

556
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes, honey, you guys always have to pay to play.

557
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: No one wants to play.

558
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: Places doing really well though making money maintaining it's a lure.

559
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: Around around two thousand and four, Tim wanted born.

560
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: Oh he wasn't happy.

561
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: No, he wanted to take the concept international, of course,

562
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: and he told investors at the club would never take

563
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: on debt. That was like the promise, that's the Tim

564
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: Blick seth promise. Okay, that it would be self sustaining.

565
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: And so he has all these investors right, but then

566
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: he had to scratch that expansion itch. So he went

567
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: out and he got a three hundred and seventy five

568
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: million dollar bank loan from Credit.

569
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: Swiss personally, so that we didn't take on debt.

570
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no for the club. He used the club

571
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: assets as collateral.

572
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: That's what I was wondering. So basically, like his.

573
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: Wife Edward told the New York Times quote, I didn't

574
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: recognize it as such, but that Credit Swees loan was

575
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: the beginning of Tim's midlife crisis before we could contain

576
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: him after it was ego gone wild.

577
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 2: She didn't realize it at the time. He's got a

578
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 2: third of a billion dollars to do with whatever he wants.

579
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: Well, the original plan, he was going to ask the

580
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: bank for two hundred and twenty million dollars. Okay, but

581
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: the credit sweez. They had other ideas, so they like,

582
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: what about something more? No, they said, we have Okay,

583
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: we've got all these investors who are willing to dump

584
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: more than a billion with a B dollars into the resort.

585
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: Like they the bank wanted to syndicate the loan to

586
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: big investors, and it's.

587
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: Like, we want to turn you a dirt into a deriva. Yeah.

588
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: They're like, Tim, don't you want more money? And he's like,

589
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: yes money, sure, Yeah, so they up it up to

590
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: three seventy five. The bank made a seven point five

591
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: million dollar fee on the loan, just off the top.

592
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 2: That works.

593
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: The money comes in three hundred and seventy five million.

594
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: He immediately transfers two hundred and nine million to this

595
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: entity that he controlled, okay, separates it up.

596
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: Is it like in a foreign bank? Also, No, it's

597
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: just like under American.

598
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

599
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: The rest of it went into buying posh resorts all

600
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: over the world. So he bought a twenty eight million

601
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: dollar fourteenth century chateau complete with a moat outside of Paris,

602
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: a forty million dollar Mexican resort Wow, twenty eight million

603
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: dollar private island in the Caribbean.

604
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: I'll take it.

605
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, forty million dollar site in Scotland where he was

606
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: going to build a golf retree. And we know how

607
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: how much the locals love when that happen.

608
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, your favorite come in please our national sport.

609
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Membership sales were suspended though at the Yellowstone Club

610
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six because of lack of interest.

611
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: Really hard to slow down. And yeah, this is before

612
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, so there was still a lot

613
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: of easy.

614
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: Saying, like according to The New York Times. In December

615
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, mister blick Seth made headlines by

616
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: announcing he was building a Yellowstone Club mantz that he

617
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: boasted would be the most expensive home in the world,

618
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: priced at one hundred and fifty five million dollars. The

619
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: fifty three thousand square foot home, called the Pinnacle, would

620
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: have a heliport, an ice skating rink, and underground parking

621
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: for twenty SUVs. The home was never built but for

622
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: the driveway. Mister Blickseth would later sell the site for

623
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: ten million dollars.

624
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: I would love to have a moment to talk to

625
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: somebody like that. And just like you be like very

626
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: real with them, be like you know that hole inside

627
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: of you. This is not going to hap.

628
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can build many.

629
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: If we all point and look and go. That's the

630
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: most amazing man I've ever seen in all my Yeah,

631
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: it's still not going to do it.

632
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: So he's like he's making bold claims. He's flitting all

633
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: over the world looking at properties. Remember I was like,

634
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: people aren't buying memberships just because back home at the

635
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 1: Yellowstone Club, things are not going swimmingly. Like the places

636
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: started to fall apart. There are potholes in the streets,

637
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: and there was a big sewage backup at the lots.

638
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: According to the New York Times quote, the power grid

639
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: was meant for eighty homes, as it's strained to meet

640
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: the needs of three hundred. The ski lifts would occasionally

641
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: creak to a halt.

642
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: Because they have so many like movie theaters in people's homes,

643
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: they can't make their.

644
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: Heats all cranked. But they're like, yeah, exactly, And meanwhile,

645
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: Bill Gates is like dangling over the lear jet rot

646
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,959
Speaker 1: Mary Heart. What if Bill Gates had an affair with

647
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: Mary Heart? There allegedly what if allegedly I think we

648
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: all know, but so like having it all Jaki like that,

649
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: that's not the way to attract new members.

650
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 2: It's actually way to lose your current members.

651
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,959
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, and so like that, the investors aren't happy.

652
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: Nobody's happy. You know who was unhappy? You know it's

653
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: one of those three time Tour de France winter in

654
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: Northern California zone. Greg Lamont what Gregg Greg Lamon? Greig Lamon.

655
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: He was an early investor and homeowner at the Yellowstone.

656
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: In two thousand, he entered into negotiations with Yellowstone Development.

657
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: That's like you know, Tim was the representative and he

658
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: bought a five acre parcel known as Lot eleven.

659
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: So cycling can get you there, huh. Apparently in the eighties,

660
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: I mean talking like lance when he got like advertising money.

661
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: You know, no one was wearing Greg Lamont bracelets, and

662
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: we really should have been.

663
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: He did sell bikes, actual bikes, they did, but not

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Speaker 2: many exactly Elizabeth er.

665
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: So an email from Tim outlined this deal where like

666
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: Greg Laman is going to get the lot for a

667
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: million dollars Love eleven, but the price would be offset

668
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: by one hundred thousand dollars for each new member that

669
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: he would bring into the clubs, which would allow him

670
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: to basically get the property without paying for it if

671
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: he could bring it exactly. Yeah, the dorm, He's like,

672
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: who has five on? It? Gets everyone in? Lamon held up,

673
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 1: I understand, I know, right to translate. Lamon held up

674
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: his end of the bargain. He promoted the club like

675
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: he was supposed to do, but like no formal contract

676
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: was signed. He got four other family members and associates

677
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: to invest, so he got it like for half price.

678
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: They each kicked in seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars

679
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: for one percent shares of the club.

680
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: There's how many four of them?

681
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? So fast forward to that credit sweet loan. So

682
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: there was that two hundred and nine million dollars that

683
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: Tim put into his own account.

684
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: Yes, the outstanding personal ones.

685
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: Greg Lamon and other shareholders were like, that should be

686
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 1: distributed to us because like these the shares are what

687
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: was used as collateral.

688
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: Oh wow, getting kind of lippy. Greg coming in quick

689
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: and hey, listen, how do I get some of that

690
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: money over there?

691
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: In two thousand and six, then so he and other.

692
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: Guys to see how Greg got money.

693
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: He didn't play. He and other minority shareholders filed a

694
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: lawsuit against Tim and all of his associated entities. They

695
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: alleged eighteen counts of malfeasance, including breach of contract and

696
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: fiduciary duty. They said that Tim tried to buy out

697
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: their shares at undervalued prices without providing necessary financial disclosures,

698
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: despite appraisals that valued the club way higher.

699
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: Than he was saying the deal.

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00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so Lamon's lawsuit included a claim for the

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00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: conveyance of that lot eleven. It had been reconfigured and

702
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: incorporated into a larger part known as the Overlook.

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00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: Lots, so the hotel shining. Yeah exactly, sounds.

704
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: Like why seriously. Two thousand and seven, Lamon he filed

705
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: notice of list pendants on the Overlook Lots to like

706
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: assert his claim on them. So that basically means that

707
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: he flagged the property in County Land records as being

708
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: part of a pending lawsuit. Okay, this is what The

709
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: title pretty much stalls any sale, but him didn't care.

710
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: The next year, he and a partner formed Overlooked Partners,

711
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: LLC and purchased the lot for fifteen millions, even though

712
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: there's pending litigation. So Greg Lamon settled the lawsuit in

713
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight for thirty nine and a half million.

714
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: Dollars settled for that.

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00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, get it, Greg geez Yeah.

716
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: Correct, Way better than on a bike courtroom run.

717
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: I know things were more than a mess on the

718
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: Yellowstone side of things. So we'll come back to that later. Now, though,

719
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: I want to tell you about trying to con the Pentagon. Yeah,

720
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: this is happening all at the same time.

721
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: He's like, I got one over in the bla.

722
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: It starts with this dude, Dennis Montgomery. He was a

723
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: software programmer and co founder of Etrepid Technologies based in Reno, Nevada.

724
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: Not a good name, no.

725
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: He said that he developed software that could intercept and

726
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: decode hidden Al Qaeda messages embedded in Al Jazeera broadcast.

727
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: Of course, why not.

728
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: And he said that he could also detect secret codes

729
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: in video streams using advanced signal process.

730
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: So he's got a secret decoder ring, yes, essentially.

731
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: And he marketed this technology US government agencies after nine eleven.

732
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: I'm sure they bought five.

733
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: And he's like, let's prevent future attack. I won't ever

734
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: want never again.

735
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: There's a billion dollars.

736
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: So in two thousand and six, this banner year for

737
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: Tim Right. He became a key financial backer of Montgomery's ventures,

738
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: particularly through a company called Opspring llc Opspring, which is

739
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: a technology firm that Montgomery co founded with Blick Sas.

740
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: So Opspring wanted to market montgomery software to these US

741
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: intelligence and defense agencies, like we can identify hidden terrorist messages,

742
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: Tim and Edra. They get like super into promoting the software.

743
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 4: Okay, and they were like, this is a revolutionary counter

744
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 4: terrorism tool.

745
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: We should know. We own a resort in montang hang out.

746
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: So he leveraged all of his connections and like all

747
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: these Yellowstone Club members like X government officials to like

748
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: pitch the technology the high ranking federal officials. So for

749
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: like a really brief moment, maybe forty five seconds, US

750
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: government agencies took his claim seriously, like, well, let's.

751
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: Lipkk to this.

752
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: So the CIA, Department of Homeland Security they tested the

753
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: software and then CIA and Air Force Intelligence Unit were like,

754
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: this is total garbage. This is a fraud. There's no

755
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: scientific or technical basis for your claims. Get out. There's

756
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: a two thousand and nine Playboy Artday, Sir that described

757
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 1: how yeah, the software had like caused false alerts, including

758
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: canceling a transatlantic flight based on bogus quote intelligence.

759
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: So put somebody on like a no fly list by mistake.

760
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, According to a two thousand and nine deposition, Montgomery

761
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: later admitted that the software never actually worked and he

762
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: knew it. Yeah, and the former CIA officials referred to

763
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: it as quote, the biggest con ever perpetrated on the

764
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: US government.

765
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: Could you imagine thinking that you can go and con

766
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: the CIA's tech people with something you know doesn't work. No,

767
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: this guy, Wait, that's like I can't imagine like driving

768
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: over and just making that full drive there. They're like

769
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: way past that.

770
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: But while Greg Leman's suing him, yes, exactly, it's business

771
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: with Montgomery. They get in all these other lawsuits and

772
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: counter lawsuits with all these fraud accusations, his intellectual property, theft,

773
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: defamation and so, like you know, the Yellowstone clubs falling apart.

774
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: He's doing this.

775
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: They're like a monetary distribution system for lawyers, Like we

776
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: take money here, but give it to lawyers there.

777
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: That's what this guy is. Whatever happened to Dennis Montmy Montgomery?

778
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: Glad you ask, I'll give you a quick rundown of

779
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: his greatest hits following this scam two thousand and six,

780
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: again Banner year, he accused Nevada gubernatorial I'm.

781
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: Sorry, Elizabeth, I just realized you said two thousand and six.

782
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 2: We're a year past him doing the song in New Orleans.

783
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 2: So at the same time, he's also doing charity songs.

784
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: He's really in peace.

785
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: He's all over the place.

786
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 2: Okay, go on to but this is now Dennis montud Yes,

787
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: his business partner. Yes.

788
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: He accused Nevada gubernatorial candidate Jim Gibbons of accepting a

789
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: bribe that Montgomery had offered him. He said, he gave

790
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: Gibbons I offered you. Yeah, he gave Gibbons ten grand

791
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: and some casino chips in order to lock in military

792
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: contracts for the bogus software.

793
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: Wow.

794
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: The FBI investigated, Gibbons was clear because like Montgomery had

795
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: faked this email trail that he used his evidence. Twenty fourteen,

796
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: Montgomery was hired by Garbage human being Sheriff Joe R.

797
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: Pio a Marizona County, Arizona as a confidential informant.

798
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 2: Hired as a confidential they do tell this to the press.

799
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: Montgomery told him that using information that he picked up

800
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: when he worked for the CIA, there he could expose

801
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: a conspiracy against our PIO between the US Department of

802
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: Justice and G. Murray snow, a federal judge presiding over

803
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: a racial profiling lawsuit that had been filed against the county.

804
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: I got your back, bro.

805
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. So then these NSA am NSA looks at it

806
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: and they're like, Nope, this is not CIA stuff, according

807
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: to Reuter's quote. In twenty nineteen, Montgomery sued our Pio

808
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: alleging libel. The computer programmer claimed the sheriff's office had

809
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: hired him to quote hack into databases and websites to

810
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: help improve their beliefs about President Obama's ancestry and birth information.

811
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,479
Speaker 2: Oh wow yeah.

812
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen, he said that he had intel about the

813
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: Trump Tower wire tapping allegations, and he sued former FBI

814
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: director James Comey, saying there was a cover up case dismissed.

815
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one, Montgomery said there was a supercomputer called

816
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: the Hammer that was used to steal votes from Trump

817
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty election, and then that my pillow

818
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: dufis Mike Lindell. He loved the story, repeated it all

819
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: the time.

820
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: Oh, is that why he's in trouble now?

821
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, vote machine, the vote machine. The director of the

822
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, which is part of the

823
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security, called the claims quote nonsense and

824
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: quote a hoax. So remember, kids, you are the company

825
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: you keep. Let's take a break for some ads and

826
00:40:49,280 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: up next drama. Wo zaren, Yes, welcome.

827
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: Hi.

828
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: So we had that credit sweee thing.

829
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: Right, I was just a cock. She's sending them an

830
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: email asking for a loan of about two hundred million dollars.

831
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: The show is collateral.

832
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to, you know, prioritize some mountain land.

833
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: I'm looking at like that.

834
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: That sounds good.

835
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: I'll let you come. I'll have a private club.

836
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I'd like to be in the club. Dave, do

837
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: you want to be in the club.

838
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: I'm in. Yeah, he's already the vice president.

839
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: Oh oh, so you've been talking about it without me?

840
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: No cute whatever he started.

841
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: So we have credit Sweee birth. All these lawsuits countersuits.

842
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: In an eight year span, federal court dockets listed tim

843
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: on one hundred and fifty nine cases involving bankruptcy's civil

844
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: actions or appeals and fifty A lot of those are

845
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 1: ones that he finds. It was just a big mess,

846
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: Like you're saying, he's just generating billable hours for lawyers.

847
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: But this was something that Tim and Edra could not weather.

848
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: Oh the couple, Yeah, I can't believe she stayed this

849
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: long in two thousand and six kids banner year.

850
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they filed for divorce.

851
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: I imagine she so they well know this.

852
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: How it works. They told the Wall Street Journal that

853
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: it was like super chill and they did the goop

854
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: and the guy who's the beanie thing like conscious uncoupling,

855
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, respectful positive.

856
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: What's his band? Uncle cracker, no cake?

857
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: Cool guy? Yeah, Tim and Edra they sat down one

858
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: afternoon at the Beverly Hills Hotel with a bottle of

859
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: wine and a yellow notepad.

860
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 2: I mean, who among us hasn't That's.

861
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: Exactly they carefully split up the assets.

862
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: I knew it.

863
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: Not a lawyer in sight.

864
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: I knew it.

865
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: Just a bad moves.

866
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so they're not actually working together. Protection.

867
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: You can't always associate lawyers with ranker like it's it's

868
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: just why to navigate the law with someone training that's

869
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: why they're.

870
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: Called counselor advocate counsel.

871
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: This is someone my family's crawling with lawyers, I've been

872
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: trained to say. But in the end they really should

873
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: have had lawyers because it fell apart. It fell apart.

874
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: As part of the divorce settlement, Edre became the majority

875
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: owner and CEO of the Yellowstone Club. Yeah, he's like,

876
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: you know what, you can have the club. It isn't

877
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: really good financial it is, so it is just make

878
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: it printing money. I want you to have it, please nod,

879
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: but okay, transfers it over. So the divorce settlement came

880
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: under legal scrutiny when creditors alleged that Tim had used

881
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: it to shield assets from the Yellowstone Club creditors. So

882
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: courts found that the club did not receive equivalent value

883
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: in exchange for releasing claims on Tim and it's his entities.

884
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: And it was at this point, not at the time

885
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: of the loan, that it was revealed that Tim had

886
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: diverted that two hundred and nine million from the loan

887
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: intended for club development. So it wasn't tucked away for

888
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: the club. He wasn't doing it for the club. He

889
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: was using the funds for his personal ventures. So the

890
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: club basically Edra at this point filed for Chapter eleven

891
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: bankruptcy in November two thousand and eight. There was so

892
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: much debt, so much debt.

893
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, does she not have like an accountant or a lawyer,

894
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: anybody look at their paperwork. She's just like, oh, I'm

895
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 2: taking it, and like the.

896
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: Assets for the place were like one hundred million to

897
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: five hundred million in that category, but they owed way

898
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: more than so, like, thanks Tim.

899
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: He got the balance wrong.

900
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: With the bankruptcy in motion and her divorce finalized, Edge

901
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: made a move. She threw a party. What zaren closed out?

902
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 5: Oh?

903
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: I was wondering. Oh my goodness, Yeah.

904
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: Clo, I want you to picture it. Yes, it's two

905
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: thousand and nine. You are a seventy five year old

906
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: Palm Springs bachelor, a former film industry executive. You are

907
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: stupid rich. All through your younger years, you put your

908
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: career first. You didn't really date and never married. A

909
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: lot of people thought maybe you were gay. You weren't,

910
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: but you thought working to dispel rumors was silly. Who cares.

911
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: When you were in your fifties, you were at a

912
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: beach bonfire trying to close a deal with an agent

913
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: to land a megastar for a project. A large ember

914
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: from the fire popped out of the flames and into

915
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 1: your right eye. It was horrible. You wound up losing

916
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: your eye, and you've worn an eyepatch ever since. So

917
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: here you are, a silver fox with an eye patch

918
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: who's finally retired and looking to just enjoy life. You

919
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: moved full time to your place in Palm Springs and

920
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: you're enjoying socializing just for the sake of socializing. No networking,

921
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: just hanging out with folks. A neighbor has invited you

922
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: to a party Rancho Mirage not far away at a

923
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: house known as Porcupine Creek over lunch at the country club.

924
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 1: This neighbor told you all about the house. Two hundred

925
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: and forty nine acres, its own golf course and driving range,

926
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: eighteen thousand square foot house, four guest houses, each with

927
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: a theme Old Hollywood, Africa, Asia, and the Mediterranean for casitas,

928
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: fully wired stage and entertainment area at the fifteenth Green

929
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: like a full sized carousel. It's basically a huge resort,

930
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: and your neighbor tells you it's owned by Edra Blixeth.

931
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: You aren't familiar with her. He tells you she's just

932
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: filed for bankruptcy and is about to list the house

933
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: for sale for seventy five million dollars. He wants to

934
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: go to this party and make a move on her,

935
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: get in on that money. You know that for the

936
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: mega rich, bankruptcy doesn't mean poverty. You ask your neighbor

937
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 1: why he thinks she'll be hot to draw it. It's

938
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: a divorce party, he tells you. So on the night

939
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: of the shindig, the two of you roll up in

940
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: your black nineteen sixty two Porsche three fifty six speech There.

941
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: Heads turn as the valet takes your keys, and the

942
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: two you make your way into the party. You adjust

943
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: your eyepatch. Disco music plays as you walk through the

944
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: foyer into a large living room area. Lights flash and

945
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: people whoop it up. You're handed a glass of champagne.

946
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: On a tabletop. To your left is a display of dolls,

947
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: all with the same guy's face, all full of pins.

948
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: Voodoo dolls. I'm guessing that's the X, you say to

949
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: your neighbor. He doesn't hear you. He's bopping in time

950
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: to the music, scanning the room and its assortment of wealthy,

951
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: middle aged women. Look into party. You hear a smacking

952
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: noise and cheers coming from the next room. You walk

953
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: over to investigate and see a group of people gathered

954
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: around a pinata. It's shaped like the man on the

955
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: voodoo dolls. People take turns whacking at the effigy pinata

956
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: until it busts open and seeming the endless amount of

957
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: chocolate gold coins comes spilling out. You turn away. This

958
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: says all a little much. You head to an order

959
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: of station and overhear staff whispering about the party. This

960
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: whole thing cost her ninety thousand dollars. There are more

961
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: than a hundred people here. That guy over there just

962
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: grab my butt. Have you seen this swag bag? You

963
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: look around a swag bag at a divorce party. The

964
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: concept of a divorce party seems so ghost to you

965
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: in the first place, But to hand out favors. You

966
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: spy a table brimming with gift bags in the corner

967
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: of the room. You pick one up and pull out

968
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: the contents. It's a roll of toilet paper with the

969
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: ex husband's face printed on it. See why would anyone

970
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: be in a hurry to get married? You wonder A

971
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: woman approaches you and strokes your arm. I love your eyepatch,

972
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 1: she coos. You slowly reach up and lift it away

973
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: from your eye, exposing the gaping hole beneath. She gasps

974
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: and walks away. A woman your age with a smart

975
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: haircut and a stunning lauro Piana outfit is watching you.

976
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,479
Speaker 1: She laughs at the scene. You've just made. This whole

977
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: thing is so messed up, she says to you. Want

978
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: to get out of here? You ask her. Five minutes later,

979
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: the two of you were speeding down a desert high

980
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: in your Porsche. At long last you found your.

981
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: Match on a dark desert high.

982
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: Exactly look what I did for you. So Edra obviously

983
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: thrilled to be done with Tim. I bet right, But like,

984
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: how gross is that with all the like toilet paper anyway.

985
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: Don't get me started. Yeah, So she never understood the

986
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: whole toilet paper like I want to wipe myself with

987
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: somebody's I've never gotten even as like an fgy type things.

988
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 2: It's not how I think of my boy my bum

989
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: my bum bum so Edra.

990
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: She told a New York Times reporter in two thousand

991
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: and nine, quote, I would rather feel the cold steel

992
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: of a revolver in the roof of my mouth and

993
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: pull the trigger than to ever think about living a

994
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: day with that man again. Wow yeah boom, like for real, yeah,

995
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: like I'm still like the ground's rocking. In twenty times,

996
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: a federal judge held Tim responsible for the Yellowstone Club's

997
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: financial collapse, good ordered him to pay forty million to editors.

998
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: He turned around sued his former attorney for three hundred

999
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: and seventy five million, alleging malpractice related to the bankruptcy.

1000
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: The case was dismissed in twenty twelve.

1001
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: Oh that didn't work out now.

1002
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: In twenty eleven, Oracle founder Larry Ellison bought Porcupine Creek.

1003
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 2: Really.

1004
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: He used it as a private residence for a decade

1005
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: before converting it to a five star wellness retreat, which

1006
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: it is today. Twenty thirteen, Tim was found in contempt

1007
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: for selling assets, including that Tamarindo, Mexican resort, in violation

1008
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: of court orders. So he's just going around like selling

1009
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: stuff off.

1010
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: I got a different country. You can't stop, it's right.

1011
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: He was jailed in December twenty fourteen for failing to

1012
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: disclose the details of that sale. He got released after

1013
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: seven days, but then he was re arrested April twenty

1014
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: fifteen and locked up for continued non compliance. He did

1015
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: fourteen months in jail for all these like contempt charges

1016
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: and stuff.

1017
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: Contempt.

1018
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, charge his third wife, Jessica, because he got married

1019
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: after the Yeah, she served from divorce papers when he

1020
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: was in jail.

1021
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: It's third way, third wife that didn't last long. No, okay, now,

1022
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 2: want to hop on that grenade, that financial grenade. I

1023
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: don't understand.

1024
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a two hundred

1025
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: and eighty six million dollar judgment against him for fraudulent

1026
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: transfers relating to the club. In twenty eighteen, he finally

1027
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: reached a settlement with creditors and agreed to pay three million.

1028
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: That's it. He sued the state of Montana over the bankruptcy,

1029
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: but an appeals court cleared them last year. And it

1030
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: looks like there are various pending lawsuits over other random stuff.

1031
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: But like whatever, he's still out there in court.

1032
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: He's out there. Yeah. The Yellowstone Club still exists. In

1033
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: June of two thousand and nine, it was sold for

1034
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen million to a private equity firm.

1035
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: Cross Harbor Capital Partners. One of the club members is

1036
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: like the guy who owns it. Coming out of bankruptcy,

1037
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: they were able to clear the debts positive cash flow.

1038
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: Membership doubled to more more than five hundred households.

1039
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then there.

1040
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: Since twenty thirteen, Cross Harbor has been like working with

1041
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: all these other entities, expanding the heck out of the property,

1042
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: gobbling up neighboring tracks and resorts. Yeah. Current high profile

1043
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: members include Bill Gates, still Mark Zuckerberg, j Lo Justin Timberlake,

1044
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: and Jessica Biel, Tom Brady, Nick Woodman's CEO of GoPro,

1045
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: Stuart Butterfield, a founder of Flicker and Slack, and then

1046
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson. He's up in there too, So Zarin, what's

1047
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: your ridiculous takeaway?

1048
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 2: Rich people they're just not like us, No, no.

1049
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: I just like I can't imagine constantly making money, losing money,

1050
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: losing other people's money, you know, Like, and then the

1051
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: people who use bankruptcy is just like a wipe the slate.

1052
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't make a difference because like if you're a

1053
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: financial divorce, yeah, if you're not, it'll ruin you, you

1054
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And like and even then not

1055
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: all your debt gets wiped. So it's like anyway hard

1056
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, you know what I need?

1057
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: What do you need, Elizabeth? Talk back? I thought you're

1058
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 2: gonna say it's some comfortable shoes and slip into.

1059
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: Well always, but can we even talk back?

1060
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: I went hi? Everyone.

1061
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 5: So when I was twelve, I was very religious, and

1062
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 5: when doing a school project, we couldn't get the computer

1063
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 5: to turn on. And thus I decided to start prayer

1064
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 5: for the computer, trying to scare the devil away, and

1065
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 5: me and all my classmates, the six of us were

1066
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 5: like praying for about an hour to scare the demon

1067
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 5: away from the computer. I then realized that the computer

1068
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 5: wasn't plugged in, so I did that very quickly and

1069
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 5: pretend that it was the prayer that was that got

1070
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 5: everyone very excited and cheering. And I think that's ridiculous.

1071
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Do you know what the Lord showed you?

1072
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: That it wasn't plugged in?

1073
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: There you go, yes, unplugged it. Yeah.

1074
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: I love just the vision of all.

1075
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: These staring at their computer.

1076
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: That's it for today. You can find us online at

1077
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: ridiculous crime dot com. That is actually the winner of

1078
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: America's Next Top Model.

1079
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: Whoa, we went again.

1080
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: Congratulations. We're also on Blue Sky Instagram. We're on YouTube

1081
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime pod. Oh. We also we had this whole

1082
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: thing going on Instagram about rud dude interns. Yes, where

1083
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: rude dudes were submitting pictures of their pets and we

1084
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: were sharing those and so we're going to try and

1085
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: get those going at some point up on the website

1086
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: Collection Gallery Gallery Gallery of interns. So look for that emaila.

1087
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: Submit like, go to the Gmail account.

1088
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,959
Speaker 1: Yes, send them the Gmail. You give us a little

1089
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: account of what their name is and something funny or not.

1090
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: Just the picture of the names.

1091
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 2: Fine.

1092
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: Email us at Ridiculous Crime at gmail dot com. Leave

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Speaker 1: a talkback on the iHeart app. Whatever you do, reach out.

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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton and Zaren Burnett,

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Speaker 1: produced and edited by Mayor of Jellystone Park, Dave Cousten,

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Speaker 1: starring Annalys Rutger as Judith. Research is by Artistan Voodoo

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Speaker 1: Doll Craft's person Marissa Brown. The theme song is by

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Speaker 1: toilet paper printer Thomas Lee and Yellowstone Club chief sledding

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Speaker 1: instructor Travis Dutton. Post wardrobe is provided by Botany, five

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Speaker 1: hundred guest here and makeup by Sparkleshot and mister Andre.

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Speaker 1: Executive producers are secret Yellowstone Club member Ben Bolan and

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Speaker 1: fraudulent software inventor Noel Brown Say It One More Time.

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Speaker 3: Riudiquious Crime Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Four more podcasts from iHeartRadio visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.