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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama. Girl drama, girl,

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Speaker 2: all about them high school queens.

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Speaker 3: We'll take you for a ride.

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Speaker 4: And our comic girl cheered for the right teams.

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Speaker 2: Drama Queens up girl fashion.

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Speaker 5: But your tough girl, you could sit with us.

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Speaker 1: Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, drahn the

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Speaker 1: Queens Drama Queens.

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Speaker 6: You, guys, welcome to this episode five sixteen.

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Speaker 4: Crying won't help you now. When did it air? Hillary?

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Speaker 6: It was May fifth, two thousand and eight, Sinkle de Maaya.

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Speaker 3: We had no fun in this episode, but perhaps we

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Speaker 3: went out for Margarita's this day after word.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Peyton Sawyer took a whole ass flight to New York

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Speaker 6: City for a day.

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Speaker 4: She sure did. That's such a move, such a power.

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Speaker 3: Move to confront someone on the other end of a flight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll talk about we'll talk on so well.

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Speaker 3: Peyton confronts Lindsay about who Lucas really loves. In this episode,

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Speaker 3: Lucas investigates Dan's heart condition while Haley struggles with whether

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Speaker 3: or not to let Dan into Jamie's life. Nathan ores

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Speaker 3: Quentin to reinvent his game, and Brooke is learning to

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Speaker 3: juggle her career with life as.

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Speaker 4: A new mom.

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Speaker 3: Plus Peyton's trying to assuage her guilt over Lucas's breakup,

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Speaker 3: and our very own Marvin McFadden gets his first shot

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Speaker 3: at being a sports anchor.

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Speaker 4: I loved that. Yeah, that was a fun storyline to watch.

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Speaker 4: Did this air after like a break? Because there was

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Speaker 4: a lot of exposition in this, like resetting things up.

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Speaker 3: Maybe because it's the first episode in May. Don't kids

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Speaker 3: have spring break in April?

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Speaker 4: I feel like amnesia during spring break?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but if they take us off the

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Speaker 3: air for you know, two or three weeks to sort

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Speaker 3: of cover all the rotations of spring break in the

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Speaker 3: in the you know schools, I do feel like wasn't

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Speaker 3: of said and watch us film and.

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Speaker 4: Because that's what Isaiah Festival was.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I do think it might have been that sort

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Speaker 3: of rolling delay of two or three weeks they would

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Speaker 3: ratings wouldn't dip. It does feel like a catch up episode.

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Speaker 4: I My favorite line was actually in the last episode

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Speaker 4: when Nathan says to Dan, maybe you should have thought

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Speaker 4: of that before you shot my son's great uncle. Like, no,

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Speaker 4: they're saying there's no jump. Our fantastic producer just jumped

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Speaker 4: in and said, there was not a jump. Listen, we

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Speaker 4: just needed to re establish some canon events.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we just needed to repeat ourselves.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, rather than Nathan say, well, you should have shot

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Speaker 4: it up before you shot Keith, before you shot his

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Speaker 4: great uncle.

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Speaker 3: It's such an odd thing to say.

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Speaker 4: Or by the way, before you shot my uncle. We

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Speaker 7: In case you're just tuning in for the first time

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Speaker 4: Maybe we were trying to capture new people. I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Could have been I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Well, I thought the standout for me in this episode

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Speaker 3: I loved it too, because so often that character is

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Speaker 4: I thought it was so great.

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Speaker 3: And it was a nice It was a nice side

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Speaker 4: It was cool.

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Speaker 7: I liked Lucas a lot in this episode, and it

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 7: He was just kind of taking care of business just

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Speaker 4: And Keith always had a sassy line. He did.

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Speaker 7: He just had that sense of it was always the

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Speaker 4: Well, that's it.

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Speaker 6: He didn't hammer it, but when they're talking about Dan

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Speaker 4: He goes, couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

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Speaker 5: More deserving guy?

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Speaker 4: Yet?

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Speaker 3: and say, you know, you know what this is like

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Speaker 4: And I wrote down.

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Speaker 3: Lucas's line, but you're dead to so many of us already, Dan,

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Speaker 7: Oh brutal savage.

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Speaker 3: I loved it.

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Speaker 7: He's been waiting to say that for a long time.

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Speaker 4: The zippiness was used for good, not just evil in

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Speaker 4: he is the punctuation of the scene and it's a

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Speaker 4: It's just a boy that knows, a young man who

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Speaker 7: It's a funny Fridian slip though, because when you think

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Speaker 3: And I also like, you know, to your point that

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Speaker 4: I like when.

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Speaker 3: Somebody can mirror your honesty and your vulnerability back to you.

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Speaker 4: No baby let us in, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I've had that moment with friends where I where

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Speaker 7: And it's not always a threat, yeah, to have that

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Speaker 7: and I saw that between them.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we've just met Haley and Lucas like ten years past.

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Speaker 4: They're romance. Like I bet when they were six years old,

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Speaker 4: For sure, like kindergarten bestie.

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Speaker 3: Cans on the playground.

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Speaker 4: And so now that we get to see Brook, you know,

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Speaker 3: And how interesting that you say that because Haley with Peyton.

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Speaker 3: And you're like, no, no, I see the writing on

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Speaker 3: going like, I don't know what this ding dong's doing,

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Speaker 4: What an episode for Lucas Scott just the crux of

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Speaker 4: every drama, the Dan stuff, the Lindsay stuff, the baby stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Haley and Nathan trying to figure out what you do.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he was at everything.

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Speaker 4: We've touched on a lot, but Dan in the graveyard

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Speaker 4: putting the bigger headstone, with the mega sized headstone, but.

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Speaker 7: The photo, I mean, all of it, all of it

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Speaker 3: His face on his headstone extra wild.

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Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, that's not cheap, y'all, that's expensive.

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Speaker 7: He really spent money on that headstone.

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Speaker 3: But guys, did we do that for real? Like did

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Speaker 3: we have a headstone made or was that thing made

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Speaker 3: It looked heavy, and it was on an actual crank.

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Speaker 4: In someone's yard somewhere, you guys, just like in a

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Speaker 7: Someone should open up a one Tree Hill coffee shop

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Speaker 7: you could have like the headstone that you go sit

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Speaker 4: It's a white stripes music video. It honestly was so wild.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, all the stakes got really heightened when Dan said

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Speaker 6: I love that process of everyone going through like not

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Speaker 4: Like, okay, tell me more.

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Speaker 6: Dan, you know.

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Speaker 7: But also, hey, okay, just back to the Jamie and

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Speaker 7: You really don't need this stick figure and I throw

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Speaker 4: The top of the garbage.

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Speaker 5: The kid's gonna open.

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Speaker 3: No, you gotta bury it, crumple it, you wrap it

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Speaker 4: Come on, rookie, move rookie. George had a fit yesterday

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Speaker 3: Yeah, greed. It was too convenient, even the way that

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Speaker 7: Here, how would he ever trust his mom again?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, even if kids this this storyline with Brooke

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Speaker 7: be women, but then also this juxtaposition of okay, it's

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00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 7: your personal and professional life. There's a line, but where

445
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 7: is the line and how do we when is it

446
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 7: appropriate to let them merge and when is it not?

447
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 7: And I loved how at the end it all just

448
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 7: she was like, look, you hold the baby. I'm going

449
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 7: to tell you about it. She just took control the

450
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 7: whole situation and went fully forward, like fully into twenty

451
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 7: twenty three. It's like, let me just tell you all

452
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 7: how this is gonna go.

453
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was definitely blazing trails. I loved it.

454
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 4: She pulled them in.

455
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

456
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,959
Speaker 4: Is the thing. It's like, when people exist on the outside,

457
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 4: it's really easy for them to be like, oh yuck.

458
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 4: But by putting that baby in the grumpy lady's lap,

459
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, now she's responsible for this meeting

460
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 4: going well as well, And there's like she has a

461
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 4: vested interest in it, Like, well, I don't want to

462
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 4: be the one to make those babies. I remember taking

463
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 4: like I had Gus two years after this episode, and

464
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 4: I remember taking him with me to like auditions and

465
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 4: producer meetings because I didn't have any other option. And

466
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 4: I remember horrified reactions like there are casting directors that

467
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 4: were just like, what what is this? I was like,

468
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 4: it's a baby.

469
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 5: You ever seen one before?

470
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, he'll be fine, He's totally fine.

471
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 5: How did those go? By the way, Like, were those

472
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 5: was it?

473
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 4: Were they did they get over it?

474
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 5: Or were they still like it? Were they still.

475
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 7: All feeling weird about it?

476
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 4: By the time you left, it's looked at. It was

477
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 4: looked at as a demerit, right, So whether people set

478
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 4: it out loud or not, or were rude to you

479
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 4: or not, it was a demerit because it meant, oh, well,

480
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 4: this actress is actually going to have to find childcare

481
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 4: and we're going to have to get a nanny ticket

482
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 4: if we hire her. You know, there's just like certain

483
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 4: things that become it's a complication for the production. And

484
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 4: what's cool now is that, like there's enough women in

485
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 4: positions of power where it's like, oh no, here's our

486
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 4: production office and that's actually the childcare room where we

487
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 4: have a nanny that takes care of everyone's kid. Yeah,

488
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 4: you know, that's what we have here in the Hudson

489
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 4: Valley that Mary Stuart Masterson built. You know, when you

490
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 4: have women in positions of power, the structure is handled

491
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 4: beforehand so that things like kids are not a problem.

492
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 3: Well, and what's that's so interesting to me is when

493
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 3: you look at when you zoom out and you see

494
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: the way that things get better for us when women

495
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 3: are in charge, and when women are in powerful positions,

496
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: they get better for everybody because think about how many

497
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 3: kids we got to watch grow up in the nine

498
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: years we did our show, and how many of the

499
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: men on our crew would bring their sons and daughters

500
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 3: into work. And I just think about, you know, like

501
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 3: Kathy and Mike Rail and us all getting to babysit

502
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 3: their daughter Ava. And I think about, like, well, if

503
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: Kathy had to travel for work, what would it have

504
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 3: been like for Mike to have had a room like

505
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 3: that on sets so that he could have brought the

506
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 3: baby into work. Like it isn't just the moms who

507
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 3: get dinged and look down on and people go, oh,

508
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: we're gonna have to deal with her kids. It's like

509
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: the dads also have to suffer it a little more silently. Yeah,

510
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 3: And it's just not good for families in general.

511
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 7: And this business is so the hours are notoriously long

512
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 7: in this business. So it should be such a no

513
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 7: brainer that if you want to work in this either

514
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 7: you want to work in this business, don't have a

515
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 7: family or a personal life, or work in this business

516
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 7: and help facilitate so that the people who work for

517
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 7: you are happy because they have a home and a

518
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 7: family life, and their kids are happy because you're providing

519
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 7: a space.

520
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 4: Well, and it's any business too, Like people who work

521
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,719
Speaker 4: in the restaurant industry never get to go to their

522
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 4: kids soccer games because there it's dinner time.

523
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 6: You know.

524
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 4: Like there's a version of it in every industry where

525
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 4: if your profession is helping you take care of your kids.

526
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 4: Like if that company that Brooke was going to meet

527
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 4: with had the daycare room in their building, we're going

528
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 4: to drop Danngie off, right, and it would have just

529
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 4: been standard procedure. Yeah, and so yeah, the.

530
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 6: More chicks at the top of.

531
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,959
Speaker 4: The pyramid, the easier that's going to be for everyone.

532
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 4: But baby Angie was a star in this media. That

533
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 4: baby is so cute, like just delicious.

534
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 3: She's just you just want to squeeze her. She's like

535
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 3: a little Pillsbury dough boy.

536
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that baby.

537
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 3: When you think about this idea of if more women

538
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: were in power, in a way, what Brooke is doing

539
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 3: is changing the narrative of that experience. You talk about

540
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 3: Hillary a young woman saying no, you're not gonna ding

541
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 3: me because of my kid. You're actually gonna do better

542
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: because I have a kid. Your business is going to

543
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 3: benefit because we're going to build a whole universe around kids,

544
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 3: Like this one, and I just I love it. It

545
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: was that's big energy even now and it's like it's

546
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 3: that is like some big feminist energy for two thousand

547
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: and eight. I'm here for it.

548
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 4: Yes, I love it. Look, if Haley had had it

549
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 4: at work, we would have avoided the entire nanny carey.

550
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 7: See, it's like a stalkers crazy.

551
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 4: So if was it hard to do?

552
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 7: You remember it was it hard to get the baby

553
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 7: to smile at the end in that last scene.

554
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: No, what was actually wild is we it was hard

555
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 3: to have her not smiling. Oh you know by now,

556
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 3: I'd been hanging out with her for so long. She

557
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: was like my little buddy. And so we would we

558
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 3: would film her and I would like, do the bare

559
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: minimum and I would look away. I wouldn't make eye

560
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 3: contacting nurses. She'd be staring waiting for me to look

561
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: at her. So we'd have to capture a lot. And

562
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 3: if she'd smile, we'd have to wait and then let

563
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: her get bored. And so it's a really interesting thing.

564
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: You know, no matter what you need a kid to do,

565
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: they're just doing what they want to do. You can't

566
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: look at any.

567
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 4: Be like stop smiling, you know, told smile. Wait was

568
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 4: it twins? I thought it was twins playing baby Angie.

569
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,239
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

570
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: I'm googling it right now.

571
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: I think Angie was just one baby, but maybe I

572
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: think there was.

573
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 4: I mean with Jenny, we went through like so many

574
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 4: different babies.

575
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like for a time they got another baby.

576
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 3: But as they were growing, like one of the angiees

577
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: was really chunky and delicious and one of them was

578
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: like a cute. She was growth spurting, so she got skinnier.

579
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: And then it was like, because it isn't working, they

580
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: don't look like the same baby.

581
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 4: You know, we've got baby Jenny at the conventions. I

582
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 4: would love to see grown up Annie. Yeah, I would

583
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 4: love that.

584
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: I wonder what she's doing.

585
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 4: That's probably how Brooke Davis is feeling right now. Right

586
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 4: where's baby Angie?

587
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: But I'd love to know where she is, sweet little girl.

588
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: I loved that baby. It is also really interesting to

589
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: have baby energy on the show because we are in

590
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: this sweet season with Jackson where he's you know, he's

591
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: been with us for almost a year. He's growing into himself.

592
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 3: He's getting so comfortable as an actor. I mean, the

593
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: way he delivered that whole bit with you Joy where

594
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: Jamie's reading his birthday card to Grandpapa from memory killed me, Like,

595
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: he is so present and so sweet and you can

596
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 3: give him any direction at this point and he'll do it.

597
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 3: You know, do this one sad, let's laugh while we

598
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: do this, whatever it might be. And then yeah, you've

599
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: got this views out.

600
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 7: You're like, how do we get her to stop smiling?

601
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 7: Jackson was having so much fun, and him and James

602
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 7: had gotten such had built such a great relationship by

603
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 7: then too, that they were not that it was ever

604
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 7: not it was just you know, we all it just

605
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 7: takes time.

606
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 3: It got deeper.

607
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it gets deeper.

608
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 7: And so it always felt like they had their own

609
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 7: fun little games going on it. James was so interactive

610
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 7: with him all the time, and it really did start.

611
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 7: It was starting to really feel like a family with

612
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 7: a little idiosyncrasies and stuff. And Nathan really grew up

613
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 7: in this episode. To me, I felt like he was

614
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 7: so much more grown up than I had seen him

615
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 7: in a while, just the way that he was handling

616
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 7: everything with Dan really internally processing where Lucas was having

617
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 7: his outbursts, not in a petulant way, but he was

618
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 7: externalizing his frustration. But Nathan seemed to be really processing things.

619
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 7: He was giving Quentin advice, taking on that older brother,

620
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 7: fatherly figure role he was. When Dan did keep pushing buttons,

621
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 7: that was his only outburst. But then he was thoughtful

622
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 7: and came back to him and had a very decisive

623
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 7: conversation with him, like, I am a man now, and

624
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 7: this is how I'm going to handle this situation.

625
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 5: It wasn't reactive.

626
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 7: It wasn't the way a young man, a young impetuous

627
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 7: boy handles things. It was a man.

628
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 4: The manliness was maybe that totally awesome black leather varsity

629
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 4: jacket he was wearing. Great.

630
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: I loved that. Guys.

631
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: I don't typically like zoom in on wardrobe, but that jacket,

632
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 4: for whatever reason, made him look charge and handsome.

633
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 7: Yep, was grown out. Good look you had some good

634
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 7: wardrobe too, that angels An Airwave shirt.

635
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 5: By the way, no.

636
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 4: Pants, no pants, man. Here's the thing. I like this episode.

637
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 4: I liked this episode. We had so much repetitive information,

638
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 4: and I still liked the episode because it just felt

639
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 4: like home.

640
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 6: Yeah.

641
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 4: I remember shooting this episode. I specifically remember shooting that

642
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: scene because anytime they make us wear like less clothing.

643
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: I don't know, it just like sticks in my brain. Yeah,

644
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 4: but I remember kind of having my feelings hurt. How

645
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 4: quickly Lucas got out of that apartment. I was like, okay,

646
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 4: no pants on? Why trying to be so respectful? Thought

647
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 4: you liked me? Yeah, he really did scoot out of there.

648
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 4: For the quickness, It's like, cool, gotta go any What

649
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 4: I liked about this is Peyton was just here to

650
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 4: serve other people's storylines this episode, and sometimes that feels

651
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 4: nice as an actor, where it's like, hey, we're all

652
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: playing a team sport. Like Peyton sits.

653
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 6: Down with Brooke and how's the conversation about, Like I'm

654
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 6: here to.

655
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 4: Help you with Angie by the way, and it gives

656
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: Brooke an opportunity to explain, like what's going on. And

657
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 4: then she's with Haley Yeah, and it's like, let's talk

658
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 4: about dads, right, Let's just get this out in the open.

659
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 4: And then she goes and has this conversation with Lindsay,

660
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 4: which is so funny.

661
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 7: Wait, I wrote this down walking into Lindsay's office, we

662
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 7: suddenly went from One Tree Hill to Dynasty because the

663
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 7: two of you looked so jaw droppingly gorgeous. The lighting,

664
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 7: the ways of shits so different. No, I'm telling you

665
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 7: your bone structure was all like Mikayla should always wear

666
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 7: violet silk shirts. Like everything was just so beautiful.

667
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 4: I was in dude, we were dressed in the same

668
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 4: collars and we look so much alike that it feels

669
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 4: like there's like a freaky version of this where we

670
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 4: find out that we're related since adopted. It's like the

671
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 4: parent trap grown up.

672
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 5: It's so wild.

673
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: And I made a note about the lighting too. I

674
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: was like, God, Peter Koulski with these it's just killing it.

675
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 3: But you guys in this sort of gentle face off

676
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 3: looking so similar and you're just mirroring the same truth

677
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 3: to each other. You're like, he said yes to you,

678
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 3: and she's like, it's not me who has to make

679
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 3: a decision, it's you. And she gives you the book

680
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 3: and you're both trying to to like throw the hot

681
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 3: potato at the other.

682
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 4: I was like, this is the name of the episode potato.

683
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 4: It has to do lucas you hot potato.

684
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 5: Luca Scott is a hot potato.

685
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: She did.

686
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 7: She was like, have you even read the book? I

687
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 7: love that she called you out on it.

688
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, well no, I never thought to ask.

689
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 5: I don't know.

690
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 4: It's nice as an actor when you know that you're

691
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: seeing partner has to deliver a whole bunch of shit

692
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,959
Speaker 4: and you're just supposed to like tee up the ball, yeah, right,

693
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 4: and then let them go with it. And maybe that's

694
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: why I like this episode because.

695
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 7: It's also real life though. That's yeah, it's real life.

696
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 7: It's the comfort of ordinary, everyday life. And I like

697
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 7: our episodes that are like that. Sometimes we have a

698
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 7: lot of drama on the show, and we have a

699
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 7: lot of the exposition stuff, but the episodes that really

700
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 7: just live in tree Hill and just live in our

701
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 7: daily life in tree Hill, those feel comfortable. That feels

702
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 7: like putting on an old sweater. And this episode, I mean.

703
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 3: There was so much in this, Like I'm looking through

704
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: my notes and my god, there's so long. But there

705
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 3: were things that happened in this that I just thought, God,

706
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 3: more of that. When Quentin goes to see Skills in

707
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 3: the basketball office, yeah, and apologizes for his behavior, and

708
00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 3: Skills gives him the sort of in side scoop and

709
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: talks about how as their coaches, as their mentors. They

710
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: look at the big picture and at what's best for

711
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 3: these kids. And he says to Quentin, you have to

712
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 3: trust us. We'll do whatever it takes to get you

713
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: where you want to be.

714
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 4: In all caps, I was like, that is a good teacher.

715
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that sort of mentorship that watching Antoine play

716
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: that with Robbie made me feel so emotional and nostalgic

717
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 3: for the teachers who shaped my life. And I don't know,

718
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: I was like, God, I want to watch this movie.

719
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 3: I want to watch Antoine be the basketball coach and

720
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: you know, Nathan come in and help the one kid

721
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: on the team. I just their whole storyline and all

722
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: the conversations that these men and boys were having with

723
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: each other, even the way that in that gorgeous sunrise

724
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 3: scene on the river court.

725
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 5: Oh my guy wrote that down too light, and.

726
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: The way they and their vulnerability and the kind of

727
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 3: clashing of male ego with like the vulnerable reality of

728
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: injury and mortality.

729
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 7: And Quentin needing a parent figure or like a mentor figure.

730
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 3: Yes, And it was so beautiful. And then when he

731
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 3: comes back around in the gym at the end and

732
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 3: apologizes and also says if I'm going to do this,

733
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: you have to do it with me, and they have

734
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: this you know, don't call it a comeback.

735
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I got a lot o show.

736
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 5: So good.

737
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 4: But that also was indicative to me.

738
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 6: You know, Quentin's held had so many outbursts, and it's like,

739
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 6: this is a kid that needs a mentor.

740
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 4: This is a kid that needs a mentor. What I

741
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 4: saw in this episode is that he has a strong

742
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 4: influence at home because that child on his own went

743
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 4: and apologized to a grown up. Amen, that's right, and

744
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 4: went to thank someone.

745
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 7: Yeah he didn't have to, Yeah, absolutely.

746
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 4: And so what that meant to me is like, oh,

747
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 4: there is someone at home who has laid some groundwork

748
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 4: for him, yeah, and he just needs somebody to back

749
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 4: it up in this school environment. Yeah. I loved seeing

750
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 4: a teenage boy do that modeling.

751
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 7: That was great. Yeah, I do you know what it

752
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 7: made me think, though, I wish that we had spent

753
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 7: a little more time getting to know the other younger

754
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 7: basketball players to feel like I was invested in that

755
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 7: storyline more because I was watching skills in Antoine I

756
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 7: mean sorry, sorry, skills in Lucas do the coaching and

757
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 7: just talking, talking, them up and pumping them up. It

758
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 7: felt like I care about our I care about our boys,

759
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 7: I care about Skills in Lucas, but I didn't care

760
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 7: about the moment because I don't know who these younger

761
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 7: kids are that they're so invested in.

762
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 4: Well, we cared about Nathan and Lucas showing up in

763
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 4: high school because we knew that it was the only

764
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 4: way for Skills to go to college, right, Like we

765
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 4: knew what the stakes were for other kids on the team,

766
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 4: and if Quinton doesn't play, we don't know what the

767
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 4: stake for any of these other kids, and they probably

768
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: have the same you know, issues that we had. Yeah,

769
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 4: god knows. We've only been out of high school for

770
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 4: what five years? Six years? Four?

771
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 3: We're twenty two.

772
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, only four yees yeesh.

773
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 4: Let's talk about the Dan manipulative stuff because there were

774
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 4: so many triggers for me in this episode. When Dan

775
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 4: says I just wrote in all capital letters, so manipulative.

776
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 4: When Dan comes and tells Nathan that he tried to

777
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 4: kill himself, Oh, which is that's a threat?

778
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 6: Right?

779
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 4: It's like, Hey, I tried to kill myself.

780
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, saying that to your child, Come on, and the

781
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 6: whole speech about like and it was a sign that

782
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 6: I wasn't finished. So now it's like, Nathan, don't get

783
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 6: in the way of this sign I was given by

784
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 6: my suicide attempt.

785
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 7: This is pro evidence the gods have designed it this way.

786
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 7: Don't get there.

787
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 4: You know you mentioned, you mentioned the whole like, I

788
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 4: need to fix it. This is a me thing.

789
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 6: But then the scene on the basketball court where Dan

790
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 6: sees him and is like, don't be upset, don't be mad.

791
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 6: I'm proud of your accomplishments. I don't want you to

792
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 6: live a life of regret.

793
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 4: It's just all of this messaging that the love is

794
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 4: accomplishment based and I have to get your game back

795
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 4: in order to have closure with you, Like why can't

796
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 4: I have closure with you if you're not playing basketball?

797
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 4: And oh, the whole thing was very triggering. Yes, it

798
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 4: was so hard to watch.

799
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: Dan in his manipulative way, trying to be gentle but

800
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 3: essentially demanding that Nathan returned to sport. Really felt to

801
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: me like this man panicking that he wouldn't have a legacy.

802
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: You know, if my son isn't playing, what's my legacy?

803
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 3: And I was like, ugh, so much pressure that you

804
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 3: that you can put on your kids. And it's just

805
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: I was watching these this video the other day that

806
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: this woman made talking because I think it's relevant, you know,

807
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: whether you have kids or not, but talking about the

808
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: differences between carpenter parents and gardener parents, and they're like

809
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 3: these two philosophies of parenting, which I think can apply

810
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: to the ways we have to reparent ourselves, right like

811
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: when we're doing grown up work, and the idea that

812
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: gardener parents are there to like sow the seeds and

813
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: nurture and let their kids grow into whomever they're going

814
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: to be, and carpenter parents want to build you in

815
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: an exact image and like cut and shape and saw

816
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: and hammer and make sure that the kid becomes their

817
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 3: ideal version of a person. And I was like, God,

818
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 3: Dann Scot's a fucking carpenter. Yeah, I was just so

819
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: mad at him.

820
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 4: He's masonry man, he's setting bricks and mortars, mason parent gool.

821
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 4: He still looks great, though, which is a bum out

822
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 4: want to be mad at. Okay, I also need to

823
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 4: talk about someone who looks great. Goth Haley in this

824
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 4: episode with the super dark hair, dark and there Goth

825
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 4: Haley is doing it for me. I don't know when

826
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 4: your hair got that dark, but I love it.

827
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 5: I don't know either, what did we have a break?

828
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 5: Did we?

829
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 7: Why is it all of a sudden? The next episode

830
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 7: is so dark? But it did? It looked good. I

831
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 7: liked my hair in this episode.

832
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes your eyes pop.

833
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 7: I feel like we finally figured out what the color

834
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 7: was supposed to be.

835
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: I'm glad y'all liked your hair mine. I hate so

836
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 3: much that I can't even like focus on what I'm doing.

837
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 3: I'm just like, wh who let me have that haircut?

838
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 3: I was not good.

839
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 4: That's how I feel about all of season two. Yeah,

840
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 4: you didn't have a power mullet? Yeah?

841
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, honestly, yeah, I love a power mullet. I'm

842
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 3: not mad at it.

843
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: Accidental mullets.

844
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a fine line between a mullet and a shag, fine.

845
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 4: Line across that. I don't mind the haircut, but I

846
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 4: know what it feels like to not like what will

847
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 4: live on the internet forever, and so I hate this

848
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 4: for you.

849
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 7: You know who's got great hair, though, Millie.

850
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 4: Oh yes, let's do this. This is a high note.

851
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 7: High ny note for sure, And like when's the episode

852
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 7: for me? Just the way that she holds herself. She's

853
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 7: got all this new character development happening. She's so fun

854
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 7: and chill, and she just keeps thinks simple lo drama.

855
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 7: She's supportive, but she does She's not a pushover and

856
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 7: she knows what she wants. I just love her, man.

857
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 4: She's dynamic on screen. And what I like is that

858
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 4: I can when she says a line, I can see

859
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 4: it on the paper right, and I can see how

860
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 4: I would get up right she has. She has a

861
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 4: line where she uh, she's reading the teleprompter and she

862
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 4: gets to I love you Marvin, and the way I

863
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 4: couldn't have done it if my life depended on it,

864
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 4: and she delivers it so simply and so believably, Like

865
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 4: I believe every single thing she says.

866
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 7: She's a marvelous actress.

867
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: And again, I just don't know how we fit so

868
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: much into this episode.

869
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 4: All of Mouth's.

870
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 3: Sweet scenes and him getting bolstered by his new boss,

871
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 3: you know, being given a shot because he's seen his tape.

872
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 3: And then I loved the way that they shot Millie

873
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 3: and I in the store being.

874
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 8: Like, oh guy, he's on TV, and then being like oh,

875
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 8: this is very bad. That was so great, This is

876
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 8: very bad, and her going to him I felt so

877
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 8: I was really struck.

878
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: When Lisa started repeating to Lee the whole bit about

879
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: what he told her that first time at the station

880
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 3: and why he loves sports and what it means for

881
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: the underdog.

882
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 4: I was like, that's also why I love sports.

883
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 3: Like, there were so many things in this episode that

884
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 3: made me cry, and I don't know, watching them is

885
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: just so fun and you're right, Joy, It's like it's

886
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 3: like pure it's just purely good, and it's so refreshing

887
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 3: on a show with as much drama as ours to

888
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: just have some people that are like good and kind

889
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: and happy.

890
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 5: I love seeing Mouth get what he let go of.

891
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 7: He walked away from that job in order to build

892
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 7: a relationship with this woman, and look it came right

893
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 7: back to him in a different form. But oh yeah,

894
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 7: I love that.

895
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 4: William H. Brown wrote this one right. Yeah, even the

896
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 4: line to get into the Mouth storyline where that boss

897
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 4: walks in and is like, do you have a voodoo doll?

898
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 5: Yeah?

899
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 4: What a great line.

900
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, I just love a left field line that

901
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 6: feels natural.

902
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 5: Like normal people talk.

903
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, dug that and there was a point when Lee

904
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 6: was like nervous and he makes this face and oh

905
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 6: my god, it was his son. Oh when we hung

906
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 6: out with them over the summer and George and Lee's

907
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 6: son were jumping on the bed and got caught and

908
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 6: his son was like row like that face of.

909
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 4: Yeah uh oh.

910
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 9: To see it on Lee and and be like, oh

911
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 9: my god, you guys are twins. When it was so

912
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 9: cute to see the little boy in mouth because he's

913
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 9: always been trying to be like the cool guy. He's

914
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,479
Speaker 9: always trying to seem older, you know, and to see

915
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 9: him just be so small and young and scared.

916
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 7: I couldn't believe he choked. I really thought he was

917
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 7: gonna do so great. I completely forgot what happened.

918
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: I did too.

919
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 4: It was painful, Yeah it was.

920
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: And by the way, I forgot what happened, and I

921
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: shot scenes reacting to him choking, and I was like,

922
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: oh my god, because I'm so used to him being

923
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 3: so good at it, and it was such an I

924
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 3: thought that was such a nice choice, you know, for

925
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 3: the writers to give him something he needed to overcome,

926
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 3: and to be able to give Milly that runway to

927
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,479
Speaker 3: go and support him. Like just watching them is so fun.

928
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 7: Here's something interesting that made me think about Milly, because

929
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,479
Speaker 7: she's so watching her talk to mouth and be hold

930
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 7: that supportive space. She does the same thing with Brooke.

931
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 7: It's a real gift of hers to be able to

932
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 7: be fully present in a room in a stressful situation,

933
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 7: to not freak out, to be able to support the

934
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 7: people that need support. And she doesn't have a desire

935
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 7: to be in charge of things. She's really comfortable in

936
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 7: her personal gift of holding space that she does. And

937
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 7: it made me think about how often I think in

938
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 7: culture and especially as women, well, I guess actually, I'm

939
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 7: sure it's for men too, this thing that we're told

940
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 7: about climbing a ladder, like you have to you want

941
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 7: to keep moving up, keep going into the next position,

942
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 7: to higher and higher and high. And so many people,

943
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 7: I think, find themselves in jobs and positions where they're like,

944
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 7: I don't want to be a manager. I'm not good

945
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 7: at managing people.

946
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 4: I boss lady too hard, yeah, you know, or whatever

947
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 4: whatever the role is.

948
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 7: Like, what happened to just finding a space that you're

949
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 7: really good at and just being the best at that?

950
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 7: And I see that in MILLI yeah.

951
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 4: So if you got a jump, Hey, what was your

952
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 4: honorable mention before you leave?

953
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: Honestly, it's hard because part of me thinks it's the

954
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 3: mouth and Milli dynasm. But also for me, like that

955
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: scene with Nathan and Q on the River Court, who

956
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 3: said it was going to be easy that it's like

957
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: that line kind of feels like the honorable mention to me.

958
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm I'm all over the place. I

959
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 3: loved it too.

960
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 4: I'm too emo about this episode to pick good episode.

961
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 4: Listen your handsome heart doctor. I thought that's what you

962
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 4: were going to say going on a date with this guy. Hello.

963
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 4: I thought for sure Brooke was going to kiss that guy.

964
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, let's this was a great setup,

965
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: especially when he asks who Lucas is and he says

966
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 3: just a friend.

967
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, here we go, and then nothing

968
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 4: robbed again. We don't know, we don't know what.

969
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 5: I don't know.

970
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: You're right, she hasn't had surgery. Yeah, we'll see they

971
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 3: get coffee.

972
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 4: All right, you go, We're gonna bye by myself. I

973
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 4: love you.

974
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 7: My honorable mention was Millie. But I have to say,

975
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 7: as she said the River Court, I mean just the

976
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 7: River Court, like looking at it that way, the reminder

977
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 7: of what how we started, what that river Court is,

978
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 7: what it means, what it looks like. And then hearing

979
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 7: Gavin's voice come in. It was some really smart tie

980
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 7: ins to just remind us of where we are and

981
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 7: why this place is so important.

982
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 4: My honorable mention is aim instant messenger. Listen. I got

983
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 4: so nostalgic when Lucas is on his laptop at the

984
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 4: end and you had a buddy list.

985
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 6: Yes, and you can see people on there who were

986
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 6: actively avoiding you.

987
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 4: You when they were on there just not wanting to

988
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 4: talk so awkward.

989
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 7: We've built our whole society now around avoiding awkwardness so

990
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 7: that nobody has to ever feel awkward with each other.

991
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 4: You know, I had that private button on every app

992
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 4: I have on every whatever. I'm like, can't read this

993
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 4: text message, you can't do it.

994
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 7: The fact that people have read or like on their

995
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 7: text messages so that I can see when they've read

996
00:50:58,560 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 7: my message, Why would you?

997
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 5: I would? Now it's always off.

998
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 4: Now, No, I want you to know that I've read it,

999
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 4: and now I'm just actively avoiding you.

1000
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 7: I'm way too add for that, No way and like.

1001
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 4: And the fact the fact that Lucas sends her the

1002
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 4: message request or the video chat request, and instead of

1003
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 4: just ignoring it and closing her laptop, she actually hits

1004
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 4: the decline button.

1005
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, instead of just Lindsay is unavailable, it's declined. Yes,

1006
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 7: she's sending a strong message.

1007
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 4: Laptop open and went to a different room.

1008
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 7: Man, she's sending a strong message. Well, she's sure. I mean,

1009
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 7: she sure is sure, which sucks.

1010
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 4: It's so weird for Peyton because she is such a

1011
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 4: consolation prize, Like, no way, he's really going for it

1012
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 4: with Lindsay. And it's only when he's getting this firm

1013
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 4: no that he's like, you're.

1014
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 7: Saying, you feel like Peyton would feels currently like she

1015
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 7: would be a consolation prize. Ah, okay, absolutely.

1016
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 6: If the dude that you loved, yes is pining after

1017
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,959
Speaker 6: this check, all he wants in the world is this check.

1018
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 4: You've gone to talk to this check.

1019
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know.

1020
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 4: Peyton reads the book at the end of the episode,

1021
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 4: But what's she gonna do go to Lucas and be like,

1022
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: so I read the book and I see what everyone's

1023
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 4: saying that it's me.

1024
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 7: No, I mean, I see why Peyton feels that way

1025
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 7: and why that would be true of the situation currently,

1026
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 7: But I don't. I don't see that as the truth

1027
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 7: about at all, about who Peyton is, but also their

1028
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 7: relationship in the long haul. It just means that Lucas

1029
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 7: is not he can't see it, and she shouldn't be

1030
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 7: in a relationship with somebody who doesn't see how amazing

1031
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 7: she is. So it's like, I'm not gonna get together

1032
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 7: with you while I'm a consolation prize.

1033
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 5: I'm gonna wait.

1034
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 7: I'm gonna wait till you actually understand.

1035
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 6: I literally have no idea how this is going to work.

1036
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 6: It like, I don't either, I have no recollection.

1037
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 4: I don't know what Peyton's going to do, no, not

1038
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 4: with this information, she said there cry and reading that manuscript,

1039
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 4: I'm like, how do you Having written a book, it's

1040
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: very personal, and you don't give advanced copies out to

1041
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 4: people until it's like, you know, check check check, check check,

1042
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 4: everything's good. And and I don't know how you naturally

1043
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 4: bring up in conversation. So I got on a flight

1044
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 4: and spoke to your ex who left you because I

1045
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 4: caused so many problems. And she still doesn't want to

1046
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 4: get together with you. But she let me read the

1047
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 4: book and apparently you love me. Like, I don't know.

1048
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 4: I don't think that works.

1049
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know what's going to happen. What is

1050
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 7: the move? I think you just live with it. You

1051
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 7: just have the information. You can't tell him you read it.

1052
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 4: She's just going to get on Aim because apparently Lucas

1053
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 4: is they're just trolling for somebody.

1054
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 7: Now, She's going to go find something better to do

1055
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,479
Speaker 7: with her time. That's oh, that's what Peyton always does.

1056
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 7: She's so good at that.

1057
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 4: It's like, nah, busy, let's spin a wheel.

1058
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1059
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 6: This week we are asking who is most likely to

1060
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 6: get brought up on stage at a concert? Well, we

1061
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 6: know who it is in real life.

1062
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you hold that trophy.

1063
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, in the show, who would be getting brought

1064
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 7: up on stage? I mean Peyton.

1065
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 4: No, Peyton's already backstage.

1066
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 7: She's not going to be in the crowd. I just

1067
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 7: I'm What I'm picturing is like Peyton watching a band

1068
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 7: that she's serious about and really like, not she's not

1069
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 7: a groupie, but like one of the players in the

1070
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 7: band really noticing her and thinking that girl is amazing.

1071
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 7: How do I get in touch with her. I'm going

1072
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 7: to try and bring her up on stage, but actually

1073
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 7: she wouldn't go, would she.

1074
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 4: No, she wouldn't. Peyton missed all of that hook up

1075
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 4: with dudes and bands time, you know what I mean.

1076
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 4: That's such like a vital stage in a twenty something's life.

1077
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 4: At least it was for me, and I'm sad that

1078
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 4: she missed it because it could have been awesome.

1079
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 7: Well who would it be in real life?

1080
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 4: It would be someone so fun, Bev. That's it. It's

1081
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 4: like it's the girl who's in the front who knows

1082
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 4: every single word and they're like, we gotta get this

1083
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 4: dim you know thing going up here, Bevan. It's fun

1084
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 4: girl energy. Yeah, it is, Bevin. She just went to

1085
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 4: some like some like super cool concert that Casey Muskgraves

1086
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 4: put on for like ten people. I just saw her

1087
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 4: when I was in Wilmington. She's like, I just got

1088
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 4: back from hanging out, and I'm like, of course you did,

1089
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 4: because you're fun so fun. All right, Well you guys

1090
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 4: are the fun girls. That is our most likely too.

1091
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 4: What do we have next week?

1092
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 7: Next week? Season five, episodes seventeen. Hate is Safer than Love?

1093
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 7: So true?

1094
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 4: So wise ain't that a truth.

1095
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 7: Well, folks, thanks for joining us. Like this one, Yeah,

1096
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 7: like this one. Good music, good stories, good writing, good acting,

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