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Speaker 2: Are hot, modest, I be in interview some niggas hating

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Speaker 2: that I'm the greatest Tory.

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Speaker 3: Come sit up on this deck.

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Speaker 2: Players from my city rarely make it to a poster

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Speaker 3: Hey us get me down. That's what they told us.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to the Black Out to his podcast, your

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Speaker 2: host Rod As. We are in the house on a Sunday,

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Speaker 2: walking dead Sunday. Yes, I think there's actually a Democratic

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Speaker 2: debate tonight about Flint, Michigan, so that I'm gonna have

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Speaker 2: to dvyall that one. See which one of these white

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Speaker 4: Uh we know, I know that everybody's out here that

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Speaker 4: the water. But if you niggas had jobs, you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: That's why up both people's alley though, because he can

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Speaker 2: make an argument about the economic effects of uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: and it'll be different, you know. So we'll see what

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Speaker 2: that reparations question come up, we will see, I hope.

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Speaker 2: Keep in mind he Bernie Sanders did not shake their hand,

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Speaker 2: It's amazing that he would say you're being rude or

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Speaker 3: Okay, that too, so some masterful renarrativization.

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Speaker 2: On that joint.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, with this, really the entire point is because honestly,

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Speaker 3: You know I don't. I don't feel that kind of passion.

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Speaker 2: But what I will say is, bingo, there's your proof

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Speaker 2: that bur understand is just the same as any other

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Speaker 2: How do I know you're not embellishing your part in

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Speaker 2: it make him different from anyone else? You know, we

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Speaker 2: but you know, but he's not a politician. He's just

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Speaker 2: slick at all. Speaking of slick, did you see the

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Speaker 2: trailer for the New Ghostbusters. I did see the trailer

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Speaker 2: I never rewatched those films. I don't search for those films.

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Speaker 4: Right, he became a more of an essential part of it.

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Speaker 2: And I remember Bobby Brown had the Ghostbuster song for

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Speaker 3: First of all.

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Speaker 3: And that was now the character. I didn't know that either, right,

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Speaker 3: So they pretty much stripped.

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Speaker 2: One is the one the trailer's out for now, and

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Speaker 2: Leslie Jones is the black person in this group. I

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Here's a trailer, can if you want to see some

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Speaker 2: of it, says thirty years ago, four scientists saved New York.

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Speaker 2: Now does I don't know it was the black dude

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Speaker 4: What is his name to do with that glass? Rick

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Speaker 4: moranis see a scientist like my They might be counting

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: He said this summer.

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Speaker 3: And it's at the Ghostbusters lego. That's a class for reparationion.

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Speaker 2: That's okay, she seems peaceful.

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Speaker 6: My name is Aaron Gilbert, doctor of particle physics.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the part where Leslie Johns

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Speaker 2: so in to the trailer.

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Speaker 4: Engineer, Aaron, No, one's better at quantum physics than you.

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Speaker 7: We can provide a real service. I'm joining the club.

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Speaker 3: You guys are really smart about this science stuff.

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Speaker 2: But I know New York and I can borrow a

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Speaker 4: Ah, you didn't just close it. The vehicle was gonna

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Speaker 4: be a hearse. It's a candidate.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Oh did you want to Sorry, I'll let you.

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Speaker 4: I'll let you.

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Speaker 1: Someone is creating a device that amplifies paranormal activity, and

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Speaker 1: you might be the only ones.

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Speaker 3: Who can stop it.

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Speaker 6: Holtzman, come on.

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Speaker 5: So hot?

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Speaker 4: Is too much?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 5: Is it? The wigger? Than that?

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Speaker 4: There's a bigger picture in hand here. These ghosts can

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Speaker 2: So Melissa McCarthy's character scenes gets possessed, it did. Leslie

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Speaker 3: Okay, kill No, the dole is a lie, all right,

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Speaker 3: So obviously.

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Speaker 2: Cares laughing because you're extremely offended by that character. Sure

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Speaker 3: You know.

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00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 2: I saw people saying Leslie Jones a setting black people back,

443
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: and uh, she shouldn't have even taken this part, and

444
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 2: uh and that you know, the problem was basically with

445
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: her and her character. So what do you first of all,

446
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: what do you think about that?

447
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. We kind of talked about this before. What

448
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 4: I said, I don't have a problem.

449
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 5: I know that.

450
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 4: I feel like this my personal opinion about just her.

451
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 4: A lot of people have a problem with her period,

452
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 4: and a lot of people bringing their personal stereotypes about

453
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 4: her to this. Her just getting a role a lot

454
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: of times causes people problems because she's not quote unquote,

455
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 4: she don't fit the stereotype. She's tall, she's black, she's dark,

456
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 4: she's not a lot of people quote unquote wouln't consider

457
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 4: her attractive. And she has done black comedy for a

458
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 4: very long time. And I think they are allowing her

459
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 4: to be herself and they built the storyline around her.

460
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 4: They do this as men often, but for some reason,

461
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 4: when it comes to women, it becomes a problem. I

462
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 4: think a lot of times people are bringing their politically

463
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 4: correct beliefs and that we don't feel like there should

464
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 4: be any black people that plays these particular roles. But

465
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 4: these are your beliefs, your beliefs, and as far as

466
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 4: I feel, sometimes, I think people take their beliefs and

467
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 4: they just want to throw it out there like everybody

468
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 4: should believe this, because I believe this, and I don't

469
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 4: like I you know, and I have I don't. I

470
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 4: don't have a problem with uh people playing various different roles,

471
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 4: you know, because I think and I but I just

472
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 4: some people they don't want anybody in a slapstick playing slapstick.

473
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 4: They don't want anybody in a position that they consider

474
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 4: beneath or playing up or out there entertaining the white

475
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 4: folks quote unquote you know, And I'm not down for that.

476
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 4: I'm I don't care anything about your politically correctness when

477
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 4: it comes to this. I'm about the final product now.

478
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 4: If it looks bad, if it looks corny, okay, cool,

479
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 4: And I don't I'm not bringing a lot of these

480
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 4: biases to the argument that a lot of people have.

481
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 4: And I do understand that for some people, they feel

482
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 4: like they're tired of this, but they'll be tired about

483
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 4: that no matter what. Like the people that can constantly

484
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 4: complain about they want everybody to be clean cut, they

485
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 4: want everybody to not be flawed. They want everybody to

486
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 4: be this and that this. You know, you wouldn't watch

487
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 4: the shit. Let's just keep that real. We watch stuff

488
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 4: because people are flawed, people have problems, people have issues.

489
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 4: You know, you can't tell the storyline if everybody already

490
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 4: comes in perfect. You know, that's not It's not my problem.

491
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 4: It's not entertaining to me. You know, maybe you'll support that,

492
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 4: but you know, I don't see documentaries the number one thing.

493
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 4: Go goddamn Netflix, just keep that real. And so to me,

494
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with it at all. I

495
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 4: like I said, I think for some people, like I

496
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: said before, they just don't want to see people in

497
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 4: these positions, and I don't. I don't have nothing for

498
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,239
Speaker 4: you on now.

499
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 7: One.

500
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a few things to it in my opinion,

501
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: the first being I would caution everybody it is just

502
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: the trailer, right, and we don't know the full picture yet,

503
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: you know, because it could be with the way that

504
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: they were discussing this film before it even came out.

505
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: It could be like the Okie Dokee where in the

506
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: film she could have like she would have been a

507
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: scientist but something happened and now she works for the

508
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: MTA or you know, like it could be something to it.

509
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it will be, and the trailer definitely

510
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: didn't show any of that, but I'm just saying be

511
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: careful for the Okie dope because it could be, you know.

512
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: But I mean, if once the trailer's out, the film's

513
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: probably pretty much done. And then with some of the

514
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: things she said online, I'm gonna assume that they didn't

515
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: take that direction. But that was one thing I would

516
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: caution because it's not the full movie too. I don't

517
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: like one of the things I don't understand, and I

518
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: think maybe it's because of I never really knew the

519
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: story behind the Ernie Hudson issue with his character being

520
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: stripped down. So maybe people are just kind of like

521
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: they're just feeling like, here we go again. This happened once,

522
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: and now it's happening again, you know what I mean,

523
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: Like they're like they don't want a black person around

524
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: that's gonna be an equal in the in the science field,

525
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: Like they have to be some other type of person.

526
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: Another thing I had too was because some people were like, well,

527
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: why can't she just be a scientist and still have

528
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: the same role and all that stuff.

529
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 3: One she probably could.

530
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: I don't know that that the behavior she has is

531
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: relegated to non scientists, correct, because Melissa McCarthy's in the

532
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: movie doing all types of physical gags and stuff. And

533
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: in this movie she puts on some glasses and she's

534
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: a scientist, right the other thing. But the only problem is,

535
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: and this is why I say, you have to be

536
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: I have to be careful with all this. There's a

537
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: lot of people that it wouldn't matter.

538
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: What she was in the movie.

539
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: They don't like Leslie Jones or her type of comedy,

540
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: and they're never gonna like it because they're very sensitive

541
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: to what white people think about black people. And the

542
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: majority of their hangouts with Leslie Jones is that she's

543
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: a big black woman who's not afraid to, you know,

544
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: get out there and do physical comedies, to be loud,

545
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: to be vulgar, you know. Like I've seen people that

546
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: have had a problem with her from this time she

547
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: got on SNL, you know, And which is funny because

548
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: she built a career of like twenty years doing stand

549
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: up with mostly the black community.

550
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 3: You know, he pleasing black audiences.

551
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: We find her funny, but it's like she's our dirty

552
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: little secret funny, like you're funny as long as white

553
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: people don't laugh. Because if white people laugh, then we

554
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: don't know what they're laughing at, because we know culturally

555
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,239
Speaker 2: is probably not the same shit we're laughing at.

556
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 3: So now you need to limit your career and yourself.

557
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: I also find it odd.

558
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: That people would say stuff like she's setting black people

559
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: go back, or she's the problem with Like, if you

560
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: really have.

561
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: That systemic of an issue, then it's not her, you know,

562
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: I don't.

563
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: I didn't see anyone calling Paul feed to the table,

564
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: who directed the movie or produced the movie. I didn't

565
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: see anyone talking about the writers of the movie. They like,

566
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: why does blackness and the black person always carry a

567
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: burden both ways?

568
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

569
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: Because it's not like if they fucking did this movie,

570
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: it isn't an unreasonable expectation to think that every single

571
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: black actor or actress should would go I'm not taking

572
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: the role for this movie. It's unreasonable. So when we're

573
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: talking about solutions to a problem. To me, putting the

574
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: pressure on the actual people who create the movie, have

575
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: the creative team, the casting team, the people who write

576
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: the movies. To me, that seems like where the onus

577
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: would go for something like this, because it's just it's

578
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: completely ridiculous to expect that nobody knows there's gonna be

579
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: one hundred percent black solidarity and we're gonna shame anybody

580
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: who would take a role like this. That's that's fucking

581
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: ridiculous not to mention because people were like, well, she

582
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: should be she shouldn't have took the role because and

583
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, why do you think she's not proud of

584
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: her work. They're like, well, she could have said something

585
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: about about it on Twitter instead of instead of bashing

586
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: going back at people. Nigga, it's her job. She's in

587
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: the movie. If you work at Walmart, I don't see

588
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: you on Twitter being like fuck Walmart and their oppressive

589
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: conditions and da dah because you're at work, it doesn't

590
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: make sense you won't work again in this industry. The

591
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: same reason Chris Rock didn't come out there and just

592
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: only say black lives matter shit is exactly the same

593
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 2: reason that Leslie's not gonna be on Twitter. Number one,

594
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: assuming she agrees with you, which I doubt, let's just

595
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: start there. But two, let's just go ahead and say

596
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: she agreed with you, she ain't gonna be on Twitter

597
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: telling you, yeah, don't go see this movie. It's some bullshit.

598
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: Can't believe they did that to my character, you know, like,

599
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: who the fuck gonna work with her again? She just

600
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: got on, She just got on. It took twenty something

601
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: years of hard work for her to get on, and

602
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: niggas can't wait to make her the fucking punchline. And

603
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: I think in large part, in large part, and I can't.

604
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll never confirm it. People will to not

605
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: In large part, you're ashamed of the kind of person

606
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 2: that she is, right, You're just ashamed of her. Like

607
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: it's cool when it's just us rooting her on, but

608
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: you're ashamed of her on a bigger platform. It's like,

609
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: why would they give her the part if they would

610
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: have had, you know, a sister that looked differently or

611
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: you know, presented differently, there was a lot Oh well

612
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: that's different, you know, Like it's cool that she got on.

613
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: I like her, but when it's big black Leslie Jones.

614
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 2: Then it's like, I don't know about this shit, you know,

615
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,479
Speaker 2: I think I still find the joke she made about

616
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: slavery on the Weekend Update SNL to not only be funny,

617
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: but to be one of the most poignant moments of

618
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: comedy I've ever seen period, Like, it's incredibly brave to

619
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: you're making a joke that involves not just not just

620
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: that involves slavery, but involves slavery, involves breeding, It involves

621
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: the hypocrisy of white people. It involves the way that

622
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 2: we value the esthetic beauty standards of women today and

623
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: women in the past. It involves the value monetarily of

624
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: the black body. And we have people be like, I

625
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 2: just don't like them white people laughing at that, So

626
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: I don't want her to make that joke.

627
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: Therefore I don't like her. It's like a lot of

628
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: people just have a problem with.

629
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: Her, and it will be a lot simpler if they

630
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: would just say I have a problem with her, so

631
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: that people could be like, Okay, well you just don't

632
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: like her and move on. But if you look at this, uh,

633
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: if you look at this trailer, and honestly, the trailer

634
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: got a bigger problem to me than her. I only

635
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 2: laughed at Leslie's parts. She might be the only funny

636
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: thing about that fucking movie, which in that case, I

637
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: ain't gonna see it. Like if she like if the

638
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: only thing funny is Leslie, I like, you gotta give

639
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: me a better trailer than that dog, because I didn't

640
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: find myself laughing at all till she smacked the shit

641
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: out of Melissa McCarthy. That's a lot dog, you know

642
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like that's not good. And the other

643
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: and the last thing I would say on this, and

644
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 2: this was something that I wish we could have discussed

645
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: more as well, not we I wish people would have

646
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 2: kind of thought about, is why are we already accepting

647
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: the premise there only has to be one black person

648
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: because diversity cancels so much shit out that people don't

649
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: realiz And let's not even say one black person, one person.

650
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: Of color, you know whatever this there's not any everyone

651
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 3: in this. This movie's lily white.

652
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: And then there's Leslie Jones, you know what I mean,

653
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: which is a problem in itself one how writers and

654
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: white people view blackness.

655
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 3: You know, the one black friend, the sassy black woman

656
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: the one you know.

657
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: And I think people do have a problem with that

658
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: archetype because we're sitting around like, well, y'all always try

659
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: to type put us in that box.

660
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 4: Right, And and that critique is larger than her character.

661
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: That's the thing. It's like you're arguing about something that's

662
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 4: a larger systemic problem and you're trying to take it

663
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 4: and package it all need imperfect and say she's the problem,

664
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 4: but she's not. When it comes to this, we're actually

665
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 4: we're talking and debating about two different things, right.

666
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: And the thing is like people are saying like I'm

667
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: not respected, Yes, you are. A lot of this is

668
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 2: respectability politics. You don't want her to be an artist

669
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: that is free to do her stuf comedy unless it

670
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: is measured against the prism of whiteness. It's like, what

671
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 2: are the white people doing? Though? If your comedy is

672
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: imagining what the white people are doing, then you need

673
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: to not do the comedy, Like you don't get to

674
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: beat Like if you want to do that black ass

675
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 2: slapstick type comedy, come do it for the only black people,

676
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 2: only black crowds. Like, yeah, you totally are doing respectability.

677
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: You just don't want to say it because your measurement

678
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: is something different. It's you know, hey, my respectability involves

679
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: you know, the shade butter natural hair crowd. My my

680
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 2: respectability involves a certain type of aesthetic of blackness and heart.

681
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: And I need my negroes to be college educated. I

682
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: need my negroes to wear glasses. I need my like

683
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: you still have a that's still respectability. It's just coming

684
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: from a different measurement. It's not you know, it's not

685
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: the pull your pants up measurement. But it ain't far

686
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: off because you know that the thing is because people

687
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: are like, well, she could just be a scientist. Yo.

688
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: If she was a scientist and still slapping people, you

689
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: have a fucking problem. You'd be like, well, she's why

690
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: she gotta be sassy, Why she gotta be the one

691
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: slaps so why should go out some steps? Well I

692
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: gotta do slapstick? How come she can't just why she

693
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: got talking slang? It still would have been a problem,

694
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: you know. And Leslie as an actress keeping it real,

695
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: that's probably her character's most comedic actors they get you

696
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: to play a version of yourself right, Like they're not

697
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 2: gonna get Leslie Jones there and be like, okay, put

698
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: on these glasses, start using five syllable words. U. Let's like,

699
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: then what the fuck do we.

700
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 3: Cast you for?

701
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: Because we don't want that, you know what I mean.

702
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 2: We don't get Mark Ruffalo and say, okay, gotten buddy,

703
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: you're a marine, kill kill you gonna kill seventy five

704
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: brown people? Then you're gonna jump on a plane. Like,

705
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: we don't do that because we're like, we we know you.

706
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: That's not your bag man, And comedy is even more

707
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 2: type cast like that. But my my bigger point being

708
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: I was like, you know what solves this one hundred

709
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 2: when there's like I don't know, say there's a cast

710
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: to twenty people, when ten of them are not white people.

711
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: That's it.

712
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 3: It ain't even that complex. It ain't even that complex.

713
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: Like why did Like my question was, why did the

714
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: other three women's scientists all have to be white women?

715
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: These are questions that didn't even get brought up because

716
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: we're already and it's just a double edged sword of blackness.

717
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 3: The spotlight's on you no matter how it goes.

718
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: You didn't write the part, you didn't direct the movie,

719
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: you didn't produce the shit, you didn't cast it. You

720
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 2: went out for a role that's probably gonna pay you

721
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 2: more money than you've gotten before and other things, and

722
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: might be a vehicle to starhood of your own. Somehow

723
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: you accomplished this, you feel proud, and then you gotta

724
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: walk right outside and get the white people going, I

725
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 2: don't want I don't like her in my movies anyway.

726
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: I don't like black people in these movies, and black

727
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: people I don't like a certain type of black person

728
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 2: getting on like.

729
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: It's just you catch it both ways and.

730
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 4: You catch it a third way because a lot of times,

731
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 4: and sexism rolled up in there too, because a lot

732
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 4: of times. Not that people wouldn't complain if it was

733
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 4: a man, but it's just one of those things where

734
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 4: if you know, if he didn't fit it's the same stereotype,

735
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 4: he would get critiqued too, but I don't think it

736
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 4: would be to this end.

737
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 3: We don't even look no offense because I love the dude.

738
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: I think he's hilarious.

739
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: We don't even say this shit about Craig Robinson and

740
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: all the motherfucking movies with Seth Rogan. Come on, we

741
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: don't you know what I'm saying.

742
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 4: We don't.

743
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: It's a black woman thing. She doesn't get to be

744
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: that quote unquote stereotype or even get a chance to

745
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: betray it on the screen as a character that she

746
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 2: can make funny, because we're already up in arms about

747
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: what the white people are gonna think about this already, right,

748
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and especially to bring it

749
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: down upon her, because if people do have a problem

750
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: with the racial stereotypes and stuff Rogan movie, they don't

751
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: say Seth Rogan, Uh, they don't. They don't go to

752
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: to Craig Robinson and say why'd you play the role?

753
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: They go to Seth Rogan and say, why are you

754
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: writing racist shit? And that's very like, I don't know,

755
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: maybe it's a black woman thing. I don't know, but

756
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: she Leslie Jones is the one caught catching it, and

757
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: people were like and not like there was these a

758
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: group of people that I'm privy to that conversation, like

759
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: you know, I'm in this group, and they were like, yeah,

760
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: you know. And I'm surprised by her response. On Twitter.

761
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: I was like, but she you gotta keep in mind

762
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 2: she's getting attacked too, and it's like, well I didn't

763
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: see him one attacking her. Okay, now you sound like

764
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: the Bernie Bros. You didn't see him one attacking her

765
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: because you're on decide the people that think she shouldn't

766
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: have done it if you would have actually like looked

767
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 2: at her tweets, looked at her mentions, looked at the

768
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: things people were saying about her, and you, like, you

769
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: look at it, you and and and tell, and especially

770
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: when because people were like, well, you know, you couldn't

771
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: take the criticis I'm personal, Look, motherfucker, when the criticism

772
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: is me and as a big black woman, she been

773
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: getting criticized her whole entire fucking life.

774
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 4: Come on, Doug, That's why it took us so long

775
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 4: to get on because the same critics she's getting now,

776
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 4: it's the same critics she got years ago. When Chris

777
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 4: Rock said that he tried to push and pumping promote her.

778
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 4: They kept giving her the same bullshit arguments that she

779
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 4: has now. They keep saying she's too black, they keep

780
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: saying she's too big, they keep saying she's too tall,

781
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 4: they keep saying she's not. She doesn't have to look,

782
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 4: she's continually got these goddamn critiques for years.

783
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: Right, And you know, and like, also, you guys should

784
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: check out our stand up if y'all listen to this show,

785
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: y'all to check our stand up anyway. It's called a

786
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: problem child. It's on Spotify or whatnot. But I will

787
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: check that out of all, y'all at any rate. She's like,

788
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: in addition to that, like she's been getting this criticism

789
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 2: her whole life, right, and now people want her to

790
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: neatly separate that from their nerd shit about the Ghostbusters.

791
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: That's not how life works for her as an actress. See, like,

792
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 2: no one's making me compelling, Like, well, here's the argument.

793
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: They did this before with Ernie Hudson and Da Da

794
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: Da Da. They don't say that, They just be like,

795
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: why are you taking this role? You will sell out?

796
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 2: Just some coon shit. I don't like this, you know

797
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: what I mean? You send black women back, that's the

798
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: that's what she's receiving. And then people want her to

799
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 2: push back into the universe like, well, that is a

800
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: good point. I shouldn't have done the role, sorry, guys, what.

801
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 4: You know?

802
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: Not like I said, not to mention, there's some respectability

803
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: or some classism shit in there too, because why the

804
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: fuck wouldn't a person that works in the MMA be

805
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: able to fight fucking ghosts in a fucking fictional world

806
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 2: where you can fight ghost Why the fuck is that

807
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: only relegated to white science women? Like why? Like, like,

808
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: why would that? And I guarantee you she gonna look.

809
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: I guarantee she'll be the best part of that movie too.

810
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: That's good, it's gonna be even funnier. Movie might suck ass,

811
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: it won't be because she put in five percent. Like

812
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: it's gonna be because she she probably kicked the kick,

813
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: the kick that rolls ass. But yeah, so yeah, she

814
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: People were saying ship to her on Twitter and she,

815
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: you know, as as she's wont to do. Uh, she

816
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: responded back, Uh, all right, I love was a person

817
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: she was reponded to, and she said, they're not scientists either,

818
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 2: they are actors, right the fuck, Like it's her role.

819
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 2: I did not write the role. But just so you know,

820
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: Melissa McCarthy can't actually fight ghost. She says, I'm in

821
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: the movie. I'm in the movie. Are y'all ever happy?

822
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 2: And then she said, uh, who gives a fuck, dude,

823
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 2: It's a movie. Shut up and watch. Oh my god,

824
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: it's not science. Actually, you guys bitch about nothing. If

825
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: they made me a scientist, you'd be mad at the type.

826
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: What type of scientists? Seriously, it's a fucking movie.

827
00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 3: Get over yourself.

828
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: I see this and this is a letter she got

829
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: from an MTA worker, and she basically tweeted out the

830
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: letter right.

831
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 3: I received this from an MTA worker. Hey, Leslie, thanks

832
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 3: for being you.

833
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 2: A question was asked by a news writer about your

834
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 2: role on your new movie Black Actresses.

835
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 3: This is my response. I work for the MTA in

836
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 3: that role as a token booth clerk.

837
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: And I was happy to see my job something which

838
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: provides me with plenty of jokes, a great perspective on society,

839
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: a bird's eye view of horrible shit that I witnessed

840
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: every day on screen.

841
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 3: I wish Leslie would have hooked me up a joke.

842
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: However, the fact that my position as a clerk is

843
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: the most abused by society, I feel this may give

844
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: us the semblance of humanness. That's what I attempted to

845
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: in my one woman show Swipe this my life in transit.

846
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: That glass in the booth have folks thinking I'm invisible,

847
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 2: and I'm not a college graduate and a producer, comedian.

848
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 3: Writer, actor, etc.

849
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 2: I'm a verb I'm not a college graduate and a producer, comedian, writer, actor, etc.

850
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 2: I'm a verb. I'm not a miserable, neck rolling stereotype

851
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 2: and civil service. I love my job and I enjoy

852
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: engaging people with information and fus a humor. Leslie is

853
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: a comedian. She's a larger than life personality, and it's

854
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 2: the first thing. It's the first thing we see. No

855
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: matter what role she gets, as she grows, she will

856
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 2: be able to tap into all her greatness. I'm supporting

857
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: this movie because I see me. I hope you receive

858
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: all that's for you. You look so cute in the uniform.

859
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 2: Congrat sus. I'm proud, proud of you. Kick ass, And

860
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: Leslie said, why can't a regular person be a ghostbuster?

861
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: I don't confuse, And why can't I be the one

862
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: who plays them? I'm a performer. Just go see the movie.

863
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 2: Another person she responded to said, you haven't seen the

864
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: movie yet. You don't know what the fuck my character is.

865
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: You like, basically, you watch the trailer. Oh my god,

866
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: are y'all that arrogant? So is an MTA worker? Trash right,

867
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: Regular people say the world every day. So I'm the

868
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 2: stereotype and so be it. We walk them on heroes

869
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 2: to take them for granted, it's not a man, woman,

870
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: race or class thing. It's a ghostbuster thing, as far

871
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: as I can saying, we all ghostbusters stand tall. Uh,

872
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: she responding to another person. The trailer did not show that.

873
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: All the trailer, three different type of women getting stuck together.

874
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:14,959
Speaker 2: How the fuck you sick?

875
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 4: Uh?

876
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: How the fuck you sick?

877
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 5: Kick?

878
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: I don't know what that means. You haven't even seen

879
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 3: the movie yet. Are y'all crazy?

880
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: Because that's how y'all sound another person, No need to

881
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: be pissy to the people looking out for you.

882
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: That's another paternalistic I'm.

883
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: Looking out for you.

884
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 4: You.

885
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: I'm looking out for you by calling you a coon,

886
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 2: come on by calling you trash? What by saying you

887
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: set black people back? Oh, I'm looking out for you.

888
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 2: The film has to come out yet, so why get

889
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: mad at us?

890
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: She says. I can ask the very same thing of

891
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: why y'all getting pissy with me? Insulting me? You not

892
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 3: looking out y'all just being mean assholes?

893
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 4: Right?

894
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 3: So I stayed with Leslie. Fuck that man might end

895
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: up go see this movie just because of y'all. God

896
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 3: damn it.

897
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 4: People, right, and it just fucking fresh me, particularly being

898
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 4: a black woman. It just fucking frustrates me. We never

899
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 4: get goddamn freedom to do anything. A lot of people

900
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 4: would rather see a man dressed in a man dressed

901
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 4: up as a woman than they would see a fucking

902
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 4: black woman playing a black woman role. What the fuck

903
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 4: is wrong with paypall? It makes me mad. It's one

904
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 4: of those things when they come to black women, we

905
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 4: don't have the fucking freedom. We don't have these same

906
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 4: freedoms that men have. I don't comprehend this. You have

907
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 4: black men comedians that quote unquote do nothing but play

908
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 4: these goddamn coon rolls as you call it, and you

909
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 4: they do not get this same critique. We're not a monolith.

910
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 4: Just let them do them. You don't show up at

911
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 4: your job and be like, well a bouce, I don't

912
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 4: like what you do today. Fuck this, I'm not getting paid, No,

913
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 4: But they don't ask them to do the same thing.

914
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 3: You know what I'm worried about though with a lot

915
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 3: of this shit, is what, like.

916
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 2: I guess, like, what would have happened if they would

917
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: have given this role to a light skinned woman with

918
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 2: natural hair? You know what I'm saying, like, would we

919
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 2: get the same pushback? And that's on the one half,

920
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: and then on the other half, would they have considered.

921
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 3: A woman like that?

922
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, it's so it's such

923
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,479
Speaker 2: a double edged sword because and then as a black person,

924
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: you just get caught in the middle and you're supposed

925
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: to answer for both parties, you know what I mean,

926
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 2: Like people always do that shit, man, And like folks

927
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: can't see that they're hyper critical of the black artists

928
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: because there's not enough black artists, right, you know, to

929
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 2: fuck it, we can just get into the bigger discussion,

930
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: Like people come a Kevin Hart. Why the fuck would

931
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: you come a Kevin Hart? If you don't find them funny,

932
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: don't go see this movie. Point being, the dude is

933
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: box office bank and he's the hardest working motherfucker in

934
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: the game. And he's a good ass human being period.

935
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: Off that fucking screen and off that mic dude does

936
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: nothing but positive shit, period. People call him a coon.

937
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: The fuck are you talking about? He's not Don Lemon,

938
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. He's not Stacy Dash. He's

939
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: a fucking actor and a comedian.

940
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 4: That's it.

941
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 3: He'll spend all time telling black people that ain't shit.

942
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

943
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: I like, honestly, Chris Rocks niggas versus black people bit

944
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: is way more fucking harmful to the black people than

945
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: anything Kevin Hart's ever done on screen, off screen, on stage, period, period, Like,

946
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here with that, man, it's

947
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: just this double trap of being black. Oh you're black

948
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: and you're getting out of work. Well that's bad. Oh

949
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 2: you're black and you don't get any.

950
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 3: Of the work because white people don't want to employ you.

951
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 3: Well that's bad too.

952
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 2: Fuck you doing being black.

953
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: Trying to be an artist?

954
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 2: What kind of shit is this?

955
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 4: Man?

956
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: It's not thought out. It's just poisoning that we've held

957
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: on to from white supremacy. Man, We're poison to view

958
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: blackness from the prism of whiteness. Like, even your blackness

959
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: gotta go through this litmus test of what will white

960
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 2: people think about your blackness? If that's the most authentic

961
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: blackness that you are, if that's you, that's the real you,

962
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: then fucking who kires with they thing?

963
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: As a fan, I'm a fan of you, not a

964
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: fan of what the fuck white people think about you.

965
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 2: You know, what I mean. That shit is insidious, man.

966
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: That's why Dajepel went to Africa. Like motherfuckers are freaked

967
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: out by the idea the white gays. But it's paralyzing us.

968
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 2: It's paralyzing our art. It's paralyzing the way we receive

969
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: the art.

970
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 5: You know.

971
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: Like, like I said, when you calling a dude the

972
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: coon for being funny and doing slastick comedy, you already lost.

973
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 3: You're off the reservation, right, You're off the reservation.

974
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 2: He like, I can see if the motherfucker was saying

975
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: harmful things or something like, but then not.

976
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 4: He ain't bothering nobody. He's just making his money.

977
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 5: Dog.

978
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm talking everybody. I'm talking Tyler Perry too.

979
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: I heard people say, you know, Tyler Perry needs to

980
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: Tyler Perry just needs to stop making movies and let it.

981
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 2: Let other people use his studio and they can make movies,

982
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: so the movie. Let me get this right, I build

983
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 2: something from the fucking ground up. I make a ton

984
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: of fucking money, investing my own time and resources into it.

985
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: I super serve the black community, which gets overlooked quite

986
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: often in other spectrums, which is why I'm so fucking

987
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: profitable and why my fan base is so so fucking loyal.

988
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: You know, these black church going women that didn't have

989
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 2: movies to go watch, now they go watch my shit.

990
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 2: They love it. They hear that he could put on

991
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: the dress tonight and make fucking three hundred million dollars

992
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 2: by the end of the year. He could do it now,

993
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 2: like it's just always in the bank. I've never seen

994
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: them Adia movie, Karen. I've only seen two Tyler Perry movies. Ever.

995
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 3: I don't think Tyler Perry movies are good.

996
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 4: I've seen more.

997
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: I just I just would like it to be clear.

998
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 3: I still think motherfuckers need to shut the fuck up

999
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 3: and let Tyler Perry do.

1000
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 4: What the fuck Tyler Perry do, Yes, what the fuck right?

1001
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 4: Because it's a larger systemic problem, like I said before,

1002
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 4: bigger than him.

1003
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 2: How is he a coan for making for doing his art?

1004
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 2: The problem is always and it's always the same fucking solution.

1005
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: It just needs to be more black people doing shit, right,

1006
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 2: And I don't and I mean that, but in the

1007
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: way of Tyler Perry's not stopping any black people from

1008
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 2: doing shit. If anything, he's helping black people get on

1009
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 2: If anything. He paved the way for a lot of

1010
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 2: your faves today. Come on now, like a lot of

1011
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: the people that you support now wouldn't have got in

1012
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: the door if it wasn't for Tyler Perry proven that

1013
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 2: he could go out there and make that money. It

1014
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: wasn't right if it wasn't for that distribution. There's a

1015
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 2: taragi on empire without Tyler Perry, you know what I'm saying,

1016
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 2: Like we like the ship, we like to pick our phase,

1017
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: but shit on the people that pay the path to

1018
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 2: get them there. But in large part that's him helping.

1019
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 2: So my bigger point is what you really need is

1020
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 2: twelve black directors making movies a year, thirteen one hundred,

1021
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 2: a billion, a thousand.

1022
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.

1023
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 2: It just can't be just one. But if there is

1024
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: just one, that's not the one's fault. How the fuck

1025
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 2: is the game so rigged that my success automatically makes

1026
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: me the target? You see what I'm saying, Like I

1027
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 2: made it doing shit my way without selling black people out,

1028
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 2: and yet somehow it's my fault too. I'm closed and

1029
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: like people will let other people use those studio make movies.

1030
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: So you think Tyler Perry makes bad movies. But then

1031
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 2: he gonna pick good directors and producers to make other movies.

1032
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 2: He gonna pick people that make shit like him. The

1033
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: plan is stupid. It's just dumb playing. You wouldn't do

1034
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 2: that with your own podcasts. I be got that Tomorrow's

1035
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 2: two Other Motherfuckers was hosting the Black Hour Tips because

1036
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: someone thought they could do it better. Nigga, better start

1037
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 2: your own shit.

1038
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 4: What the fuck is this right? Because the thing is,

1039
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it's easier for people

1040
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 4: to sit back who have nothing invested, no time, no sweat, equity,

1041
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 4: no blood, no money, no financial backing, and they don't

1042
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 4: support your shit. It's really easy for them to critique

1043
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 4: every fucking thing that you do when at the end

1044
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 4: of the day you're not doing shit. You won't go

1045
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 4: support your own, you won't go create your own. You

1046
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 4: constantly tear down other people's shit, and at the end

1047
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 4: of the day, for a lot of people, you have

1048
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 4: problems in your own personal motherfucking life that you take

1049
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 4: out on people.

1050
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and true equality would be.

1051
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 2: Tyler Perry being able to make those movies for the

1052
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: and not stop until the day after Adam Sandler's done.

1053
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: Like that's true equality, Like just like, just you keep

1054
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 2: cranking out that shit because your shit make money, he is,

1055
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 2: don't keep cranking shit out and make that money. And actually,

1056
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 2: no Pixels made money, So Adam Saler makes money like

1057
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: one out of every four films, and Hollywood keeps giving

1058
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 2: him green lights.

1059
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 3: I don't understand why that's okay. But Tyler Perry is

1060
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 3: setting all.

1061
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 2: Black people back because he does the same fucking thing,

1062
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: except he makes money every single fucking time. Get the

1063
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: fuck out of here, man, This shit is ridiculous dark.

1064
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: The game's so rigged, you know what I mean.

1065
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: We try to make it so thankless to be black

1066
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 3: and definitely thankless to.

1067
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 2: Look out for black people. Come on, like, why ha's

1068
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: gotta be thankless? Look, I can't control how white people

1069
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: view blackness and how they try to make it, but

1070
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 2: the obsession with trying to control it is stupid. If

1071
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: Leslie Jones didn't do this movie, the kind of black people,

1072
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: the kind of white people that are obsessed with the

1073
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 2: angry black woman steel type tada, they still think that shit. Guys,

1074
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 2: her not taking the role doesn't change a fucking thing

1075
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: in your life, but we're obsessed with it. Too trying

1076
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 2: to control it, but we don't want to call her

1077
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,959
Speaker 2: respectable when we do it right. But it's the same shit.

1078
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 4: You all.

1079
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 2: Let people be their true as most authentic black ass sells.

1080
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: That's the only goal to all this shit. If anything

1081
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 2: else in the game is rigged anyway, that shit pissed

1082
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 2: me off so bad, man, like if you like, and

1083
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: like I said, man, I just don't understand. I don't

1084
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: understand how this happens. Because when we put the public

1085
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 2: pressure on Leslie Jones or Kevin Hart or whoever the fuck,

1086
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: it takes all the pressure off of poll feed. It

1087
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,919
Speaker 2: takes all the pressures off the writer room. It takes

1088
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 2: all the pressure off of these motherfuckers. Yet look at

1089
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live. They hire black writers and new black

1090
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 2: black women that right end on the other side of

1091
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: the camera. Chul Don got twenty times better. When it

1092
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: talks about his commentary on race. Coincidence.

1093
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 4: Do you think you get that Beyonce thing? No?

1094
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 3: Is it a coincidence? I just wonder is it a coincidence?

1095
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if the black women worked on the

1096
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 3: Beyonce thing or not.

1097
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: But it's coincidental. They got some niggas in the writing

1098
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 2: room and the ship got better about race. Wow, it

1099
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 2: was fucking well. That is not amazing, isn't that? Isn't

1100
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: that wild? You know what I mean?

1101
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 3: Like we like it's like we can't say.

1102
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: I think when you accept this premise that Leslie Jones

1103
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: is the problem here, you basically agree with Matt Damon, like,

1104
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: we don't need diversity behind the camera. It's it's all

1105
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: what going on in front of the camera. We just

1106
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: cast a different type of black person and we fixed

1107
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 2: the film. No, you didn't still only one nigga in

1108
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: your whole fucking film, you know what I mean? Like

1109
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 2: we need more dog And also it's just a trailer, man.

1110
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 2: I it's I really think a lot of people just

1111
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: don't like Leslie Jones and they don't want to they

1112
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 2: don't wanna sound petty by.

1113
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 4: Saying it right, And also, uh did the truth be told?

1114
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 4: She just you know how some people which I and

1115
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 4: I guess me just being a black woman and me

1116
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,959
Speaker 4: knowing how black women's faces are critiqued, she just quote

1117
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 4: unquote has an angry looking face. And I think for

1118
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 4: a lot of people, they feel like her face is angry,

1119
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 4: and for me, that's very very and that goes back

1120
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 4: into her looks and all that stuff. But it's very,

1121
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 4: very frustrating, and I think for a lot of people

1122
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 4: it's automatic turn off because you're looking at her face,

1123
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 4: just just her face, period, and just assuming that she's

1124
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 4: playing a quote unquote black angry role because of the

1125
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 4: way her face looks. They're men with faces like this too,

1126
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 4: but they don't get the same critique.

1127
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just it reminds me of like my aunt Cindy.

1128
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 2: One time we were in the it was like Thanksgiving

1129
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: and she was talking about this her love life in

1130
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 2: the kitchen. I was probably like, I don't know, sixteen

1131
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 2: fifteen or something, and she goes in there and she

1132
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: does like a twenty minute stand up set about fucking

1133
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 2: these dudes and ah and how her new man was Mexican,

1134
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: and she would go through all the different ethnicities and

1135
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 2: the stereotypes of the love making. And it was vulgar.

1136
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 4: It was.

1137
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 2: Crash, it was loud, it was frude, it was angry,

1138
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 2: it was funny, it was everything.

1139
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 3: And I damn they had a fucking asthma attack.

1140
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 2: I had to leave the kitchen because I was laughing

1141
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 2: so hard I couldn't control my Like I was having

1142
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 2: an asthma attack from laughing. I couldn't even speak and

1143
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 2: say what was wrong with me because she had me

1144
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 2: laughing that much. And one, when I think of funny people,

1145
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: that's the kind of shit I think about my mostly

1146
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: black woman family, because those like the funniest people I

1147
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: know for the most part. And then secondly I think

1148
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 2: about like when I see Leslie Jones, I think about

1149
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 2: that she reminds me of my aunts, you know, she

1150
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 2: reminds me of people that made me laugh because they

1151
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 2: were willing to go into the room and just be

1152
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: funny and be themselves. And I feel like for a

1153
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 2: lot of black people, a certain type of black person,

1154
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 2: we are ashamed of that.

1155
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 3: It's like we can laugh at that, but.

1156
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: If someone else were to laugh at that, we start

1157
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,479
Speaker 2: thinking about what they're laughing at and if they're really

1158
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: laughing at us, and that ain't freedom to me, you know,

1159
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: that's not that's not freedom to me. So I like,

1160
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 2: I personally, I ride for people to do what the

1161
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 2: fuck they want. Man Like, like I said, I find

1162
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 2: more problems with shit like niggas versus black people than

1163
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: I find with with with Leslie. You know, like she's

1164
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 2: she had me in stitches man, like, uh.

1165
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 4: Uh.

1166
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 2: The part where she's on her stand up was she

1167
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: was talking about uh fucking uh, talking about having a

1168
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 2: dude that'll fuck you right, or having a good man

1169
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 2: and she was like, good man, a good dick don't

1170
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 2: come the same past. It's like, I'm not saying she's like,

1171
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 2: I'm not saying good dick can't. Good man can't. Fuck

1172
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that.

1173
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 4: But he can't.

1174
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 2: He was like, but not like that ship out of you,

1175
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 2: like like it was, but like it's funny. But it

1176
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 2: was a mostly black room with everyone laughing, and everyone

1177
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 2: thought she was funny. You insert white people into the

1178
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: same room with those black people, now black people looking

1179
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 2: at white people going white you laughing, and that that

1180
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: that's the prism that she's in, and that the prison

1181
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: that she's in, Like she her comedy can't grow, but

1182
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 2: so much before black people get fucking worried about what

1183
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: white people think about it, And I'm just saying, fuck them.

1184
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 2: That that has no bearing on whether I find her

1185
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 2: funny or not. It's not like she's doing that ship

1186
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 2: for a white audience. If she would, she would do

1187
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: that shit in soul playing three and motherfuckers would be like,

1188
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 2: oh yeah, well that's that's okay. You know what I'm saying.

1189
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: It's like, you want to keep us limited as well,

1190
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: and I refuse to give in and that shit, you know,

1191
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 2: And by extension, for the record.

1192
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 3: I guarantee this motherfuckers ever think that about our podcast.

1193
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 2: I was thinking that the other day. I was like,

1194
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, this ship ain't no different than why we

1195
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 2: don't make certain lists on podcasts and shit because we

1196
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 2: cuss and say nigga, even though we accurate, even though

1197
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 2: we're college educated. Yeah, we're Southern, maybe we got some accents,

1198
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 2: but we're not no fucking We're no less authentic, We're

1199
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 2: no less good. You know, maybe certain white people don't

1200
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 2: find this shit palatable, and certain black people either, right,

1201
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 2: but that shit ain't never gonna stop me from trying.

1202
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 2: So fuck that. Man. I can't believe people buy in

1203
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 2: to this bullshit. That's self defeating, right.

1204
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 4: That's another reason why I fight against a lot of it, because,

1205
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 4: like I said, I know for a lot of people,

1206
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 4: and we've heard the critiques, especially put like this. If

1207
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 4: you're on any type of platform where people can quote

1208
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 4: unquote critique you, especially if you put anything out for

1209
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 4: public consumption, you automatically get these critiques. So it's just

1210
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 4: one of those things where people automatically hear my voice

1211
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 4: and they automatically just check out. People automatically hear rogers.

1212
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 4: Was they automatically check out?

1213
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 6: You know.

1214
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 4: It's one of those things where we cussed too much,

1215
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 4: you know, we you know, we don't talk about political stuff.

1216
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 4: It's whatever it is a lot of times, except you

1217
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 4: bring your own bosses and your critiques because in your mind,

1218
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 4: black people should be fit in a certain box, and

1219
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 4: if they don't fit in this box, you don't fuck

1220
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 4: with them.

1221
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 3: Right.

1222
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 2: It's like I said, man, that ship that ship heads anyway?

1223
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 2: Did we talk about Yeah, we talked about it last week.

1224
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but there just some updates. When you talking to updates, well.

1225
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 3: Like what updates? What happened?

1226
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 2: Oh?

1227
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 3: I got this one article I just wanted to read

1228
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 3: from last night. Okay, go ahead, Okay, I know she

1229
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 3: tweeted some high fire, but that wasn't what I was

1230
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 3: gonna say.

1231
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: I saw this article by Ben Carter, who writes for

1232
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: blavity dot com, and he said.

1233
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 3: Melissa Harris Parry's mistake was that she didn't.

1234
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 2: Own her masters in quotes as you must have heard

1235
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 2: at some point by now Melissa Heirs Perry as a

1236
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 2: former host and media personality cable network MSNBC. Story arc

1237
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 2: is too long to get into, but Harris Perry was

1238
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 2: essentially fired from the network after four years a MHP

1239
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 2: show which aired for a couple of hours on Saturday

1240
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 2: Sundays each week.

1241
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 3: Now, first of all, that's kind of some bullshit. She

1242
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 3: wasn't fired. She quit. Oh, she didn't take an NDA,

1243
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 3: she didn't get take a payout.

1244
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 2: She quit.

1245
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 4: Yeah she did. And then then they were like, oh,

1246
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 4: you quit on we fired you.

1247
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 2: But yeah she quit that she didn't get fired, okay,

1248
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 2: But playing fast and loose with the facts, okay. Harris

1249
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 2: Parry shared an email to her show staff lambast MSNBC

1250
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 2: for what she viewed as an unfair incorrect treatment as

1251
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 2: a host. Days out there email went intentionally public, she

1252
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 2: was fired. Many think pieces, tweets, and video commentary on

1253
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 2: the matter have been published. Many have been focused on

1254
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 2: whether or not her fire was linked to her being

1255
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: a black woman, or whether or not MSNBC is suffering

1256
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 2: from a move away from its typically progressive stance on

1257
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 2: diverse views and television hosts. But I see another thing

1258
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 2: is as the primary issue, and that's about the importance

1259
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 2: of legally owning your work, owning your masters. If you

1260
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 2: were born for nineteen ninety three, that's a great chance

1261
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: you're familiar with the concepts of musicians owning or not

1262
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 2: owning their masters. Masters are essentially the exclusive right to

1263
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 2: derive a profit from the playing and other exploitation of

1264
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,919
Speaker 2: an original song or musical composition. Before the Internet NASA

1265
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 2: change the way music industry work. Record labels were practiced

1266
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 2: in securing rights to hit songs in advance of their release.

1267
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 2: They would pay the performing artists a lump sum or

1268
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 2: salary and go about the business of making profit from

1269
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 2: the song and the artist create the artist created. From

1270
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 2: that moment on, with music transitioning to the digital age,

1271
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 2: getting a large some check from a music label just

1272
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 2: wasn't enough. Performing artists wised up and realized there was

1273
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 2: nothing more important than the holding the legal rights to

1274
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 2: the music you create. The number of artists who hold

1275
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: the rights to their music in part or innos entirety

1276
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 2: is much larger now than it's ever what than it

1277
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 2: ever was. For a musician could become famous from playing

1278
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 2: covers on YouTube. Michaelmore and Ryan Lewis likely owned their

1279
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,799
Speaker 2: masters and every down their songs they generate.

1280
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 3: Likely, So you didn't You don't know that, and you

1281
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 3: assume that.

1282
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,560
Speaker 2: Well, I pick out the two white rappers in the

1283
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 2: industry with nothing with so many black people, despite his

1284
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 2: self profess that, I'm sure Kanye West owns the masters

1285
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 2: to his music. And you better believe Queen Bee ladies

1286
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 2: around the world in this form and this formation also

1287
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 2: owns her own masters. Yeah, I don't know. In the

1288
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 2: public spat, and it's by the way, you're now comparing

1289
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,560
Speaker 2: the music industry to cable news. I just want to

1290
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 2: make that clear that those industries may not work the same.

1291
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 4: Don't you got a master's degree? Whatch we talking about her?

1292
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 4: She's a doctor.

1293
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 2: I don't think he means those kinds of masters. I

1294
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: don't think he say own your master's degrees. Aha, That's

1295
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 2: not all he's talking about at all. He's talking about

1296
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 2: owning the rights to everything you produce. And this public

1297
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 2: spat between herself and the cable network, Melissa Melissa Harris

1298
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 2: Perry forgot most important business principal in any in media

1299
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 2: or any other area of making a problem from your

1300
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 2: creative work. She forgot that at MSNBC, she didn't own

1301
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: then a thing, let alone any masters.

1302
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 3: So I don't even know what he means by it

1303
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 3: doesn't right.

1304
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 4: I don't understand, because you know, TV kind of works

1305
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 4: a little different. I mean, just like any company you

1306
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 4: work for, if you produce something, they own the rights

1307
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 4: to it. And if you leave, if they you I

1308
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 4: mean you could buy them out, as are you won't,

1309
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 4: but they own the rights to your brand and all

1310
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 4: that shit, your name, like, they own the rights to that.

1311
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 4: Anything that you create, they own. That's a contract. But

1312
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 4: we don't.

1313
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 3: We don't know that with Melissa as pair. While we're

1314
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 3: assuming that.

1315
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 2: There's already been companies that offered her a job elsewhere

1316
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 2: already she had she just hadn't accepted any yet. But

1317
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 2: she's already said that she's had offers. We don't know

1318
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 2: what she's gonna do next, or what she even wants

1319
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 2: to do next. Why is the assumption that her leaving

1320
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 2: MSNBC not being fired somehow puts her in a precarious situation.

1321
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 3: She chose that of her own volition. There's a lot

1322
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 3: of assumption going on.

1323
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 2: I think there is a lot of assumption going on

1324
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 2: that we don't know shit to be blaming her or

1325
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: saying you forgot you own, you don't own your masters.

1326
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: What is she gonna you know? She is she not

1327
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 2: gonna ever be on TV again? Or is like what

1328
01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 2: is your point here?

1329
01:10:59,240 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 3: Anyway?

1330
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 2: He feel in some type of way, this is a lot.

1331
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 2: There's a lot to unload on this publixpat between Harris

1332
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 2: and MSFBC W what I want to focus on specific area.

1333
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 2: Harris Perry has been quoted as saying they wanted us

1334
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 2: to cover politics in the narrowest since I told my

1335
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 2: team we can't allow for our show to go off

1336
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 2: air and then provide racial cover by having me continued

1337
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 2: to host the show so people see the little black

1338
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 2: girl up there, Harris Perry believed it was her duty

1339
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 2: to protect her show from becoming a water down version

1340
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 2: of what happened in the past. To save the voice say,

1341
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,560
Speaker 2: to save the voice of diversity an admirable go and

1342
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 2: one I personally support. However, at the core of this

1343
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: statement lies an undeni deniable fallacy. The false portion of

1344
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 2: this statement was that it was ever her show at all,

1345
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 2: Harris Perry didn't own any part of her show, and

1346
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 2: she never did. She didn't own the cameras, she didn't

1347
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 2: own the set of the studioship failing each week she

1348
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 2: didn't pay her show stashed, doesn't get reports from an

1349
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: HR department when there's a workplace harassment issue. She didn't

1350
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 2: even own the chair she sat in during the record

1351
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 2: of a show recording of her show. Melissa eds Perry

1352
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 2: didn't own her master's and therefore didn't own any component

1353
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 2: of the finished creative product or right to executive control

1354
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 2: to execute control over the shows or networks direction. Here's

1355
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 2: the thing that he apparently has completely skipped his mind.

1356
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: This is what happens sometimes when you outthink yourself. She

1357
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 2: owns Melissa Harris Perry cimone dog. So I mean, unless

1358
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 2: you think this weekend they gonna run the Melissa Harris

1359
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 2: Perry Show starring another person, then she kind of made

1360
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: her point, like current events will continue to happen, she

1361
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 2: will not be covering them for MSNBC because she doesn't

1362
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 2: want to, because she only wants to cover it in

1363
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 2: the way that she would like to and not another way.

1364
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 3: What was getting lost here?

1365
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like, you know what, this

1366
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: reminds me of my fuckers who don't own ship but

1367
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 2: talk but talk about like business as if they know

1368
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 2: something because they learn like three key words and then

1369
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: they don't know how complex or simple. What they say

1370
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: is it's like, so I should definitely get the copyright

1371
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 2: on this first, and you're like, yeah, a nigga that

1372
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 2: you you don't know how complex it is to get

1373
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 2: a copyright did it's nice?

1374
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1375
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 2: And you also don't know in the context of what

1376
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,919
Speaker 2: you're creating, how if you even need that copyright.

1377
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're to waste your time and money.

1378
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 2: Right right, So I need to definitely. So what you're

1379
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 2: trying to say is, Okay, see what you gotta do first?

1380
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 2: You gotta patent this ship. You're like, yeah, I didn't

1381
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 2: invent podcasting, so I don't. Yeah, I'm not gonna get

1382
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 2: the patent on that brouh. I'm just gonna have to Sorry,

1383
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 2: it's just not gonna happen, you know, Like like it's

1384
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 2: just but people that don't you know, what do you

1385
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 2: you ever think about incorporating? Like, but why would I

1386
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 2: why would I need to incorporate the I'm telling girls

1387
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 2: Scout cookies. It's already Ah, what are you talking about?

1388
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:08,799
Speaker 2: Did you patent?

1389
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 3: Did you patting them girls scout coigies that you sold?

1390
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 2: Like, come on, man, come on man like like you

1391
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 2: don't like if you don't understand, Look, things happen. You're

1392
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 2: a writer, maybe you have a deadline, Maybe you don't.

1393
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 2: You don't have to write about something you don't know about.

1394
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1395
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 4: You wrote this.

1396
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 2: You don't own Blavity. Blavity could take this shit down.

1397
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 2: You don't say you forgot you didn't own your own masters. Like, no,

1398
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 2: if you decide to never write for Blavity again, I

1399
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 2: won't be writing the article talking about this nigga for god,

1400
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 2: he owned it, didn't own his.

1401
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 4: Masters, because it won't matter.

1402
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 2: Harris Party fundamentally misunderstood her relationship to the show she

1403
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 2: helps it in the audience she served. I can imagine

1404
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 2: the change she experienced from above were frustrating. But when

1405
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 2: you are not at the business head of the show

1406
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 2: you host your podc as of any creative media product,

1407
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 2: you lose your ability to have her decide and say, well,

1408
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 2: you don't incur the risk of being on air, simply

1409
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 2: take a salary.

1410
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 3: You become an employee, you served as a CAG.

1411
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 2: You serve as a CAG and an overall business strategy

1412
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 2: that sees your value as necessary component of meeting overall

1413
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 2: business goals.

1414
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 4: My thing is this, do we know that she was

1415
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 4: an employee of MSNBC or what she independent? You don't know.

1416
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 4: You're making assumptions about the way her shit was set up.

1417
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't even know that.

1418
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 2: And what's funny, though, is.

1419
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean she forgot.

1420
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 2: Why do you assume because they came to because she

1421
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 2: came to the conclusion that I don't want to do

1422
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:44,600
Speaker 2: this job anymore. You go, well, she clearly forgot what

1423
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 2: the job is. No, she didn't agree with the changes

1424
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 2: they made, so she dipped.

1425
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 4: What the fuck?

1426
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 3: This is a niggas, This is a man. Please don't

1427
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 3: be a black man. Don't let me look up this man.

1428
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 3: See he only got three posts.

1429
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh he has a website called ben at your

1430
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 2: damn money dot com. Yeah, classy, I'm sure he owns

1431
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 2: the book. I'm sure he owns the website that hosts

1432
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 2: this right, you know, like you know I would be

1433
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 2: like this. This is hosted by square space. I'm sure

1434
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 2: he owns squares Space. You know, I'm sure he's using

1435
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 2: all the black man's Internet. He's probably not using Time

1436
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 2: Warner or anything. Okay, damn he is a black man.

1437
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 3: God damn Cardinals, of course, God damn it.

1438
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 2: Man all right, God, why we got it? Why man

1439
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 2: that's wanna do a show on Sundays? Could be silly?

1440
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 2: This fact scenes that have been lost so much of

1441
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 2: the discussion. The greatest shame lies and Harris Perry sacrifice

1442
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 2: her voice perspective for pride?

1443
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 4: So how she.

1444
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 3: So you support her.

1445
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 2: For taking a stand, but then later you say, the

1446
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 2: greatest shame is that she sacrificed a voice for perspective

1447
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:13,759
Speaker 2: and pride.

1448
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 3: I mean for as perspective for pride. But why is

1449
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 3: that a shame?

1450
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 2: Even if there was a change in program philosophy at

1451
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 2: MSNBC him, But Harris Perry decided it was more important

1452
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,600
Speaker 2: to publicly share her displeasure with what she was experiencing

1453
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 2: than to remain in the position to contribute her voice

1454
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 2: to a network she didn't own. Her pride was more

1455
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 2: important than my own love of seeing her own television?

1456
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 2: Are you mad?

1457
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 3: Because Donald Show no on TV?

1458
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 4: No more?

1459
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 3: Is that what it was yeah, comparing about you, nigga, right,

1460
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 3: and also you can't.

1461
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 2: You're proving her point. She owned Harris Parry. She owned

1462
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 2: that she owned every inch of her own body and

1463
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 2: decided do the shit without me. Then if it ain't

1464
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 2: gonna be the way I want, the ultimatum is this,

1465
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,560
Speaker 2: you do the fucking show the way I say, or

1466
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 2: we don't do the show with me. Every single human

1467
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 2: being on this planet can do.

1468
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 8: That at any period of time if you choose to.

1469
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 8: If you have a job and you say fuck it,

1470
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 8: you can do that and walk at the door. Sometimes employed,

1471
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 8: and that's another you're not a fucking slave. You have

1472
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 8: an employment relationship. They send the checks, you receive the checks.

1473
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,799
Speaker 8: You send the work, they receive the work. If anybody

1474
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:36,879
Speaker 8: wants that ship to end ends.

1475
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 4: Right, they can you go in to work tomorrow. They

1476
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 4: can have you the peak slip, and you cannot show

1477
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 4: up tomorrow and you're giving them the peak slip. So

1478
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 4: either way the relationship, both parties have the right in

1479
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 4: the trust to leave the relationship.

1480
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 6: Right.

1481
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 2: You know, it's like I own my own business, but

1482
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,560
Speaker 2: you know, when a taxman come, I still got to

1483
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 2: give him his motherfucking money. Like it ain't like I

1484
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 2: ain't got no boss, nigga, I do whatever the fuck

1485
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 2: I want to do. Man, if fucking dreaming, If dream

1486
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 2: Hosts come up here tomorrow and be like, wait, your

1487
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 2: website is fuck you right, I gotta figure some shit

1488
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 2: out because I ain't figured out how to create internet

1489
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 2: out of nothing.

1490
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 3: Everybody got to create it, has a deal they have

1491
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 3: to do.

1492
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 2: Everybody anyway says it was more important than my other's

1493
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 2: love of her insight and point of view. It was

1494
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 2: more important than I love of seeing her rock a

1495
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 2: protective hairstyle on national television. What's the point of having

1496
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 2: What's the point of being the fucking mascot of blackness?

1497
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 3: If you can't be.

1498
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 2: Protective of your own black ass perspective? What is the

1499
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:50,600
Speaker 2: fucking point sitting up there just doling out news and

1500
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: now it has none of you in it. The show

1501
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 2: was her flaws and all. You can't just take away

1502
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 2: and be like, well, you know what, man, we decided

1503
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 2: to change your job. You just need to sit here

1504
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:06,560
Speaker 2: and read the news and shut the fuck up and

1505
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 2: no more opinion on shit. Just Trump, Trump, Trump all day.

1506
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: And then you go, why would you portray the black

1507
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 2: people by not doing that than just saying doing what

1508
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 2: they told you to do, get out of here.

1509
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 7: Right.

1510
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 4: And it's the same personople complain about how her show's

1511
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:22,759
Speaker 4: changed and how she that black shit.

1512
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 2: No more right, she's just a shell of herself. But

1513
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 2: that's better than leaving with your dignity and pride intact. Look, dog,

1514
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 2: if I had a daughter, that's the lesson I'm teaching

1515
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 2: her is Look what Melissa RIRs Perry did. She walked

1516
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 2: away like she didn't let that shit trap her. And

1517
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 2: you could be You can be yourself too, he says,

1518
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 2: And he said, shout out to Jamil Hill at ESPN,

1519
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 2: we love you too, girl. Yeah, until the second that

1520
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 2: she decides that I don't like the changes that making

1521
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 2: hers his and hers or something right, then then all

1522
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you ain't on your master's girl.

1523
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 5: M hm.

1524
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 2: Oprah Winfrey own a Porsche and then eventually all of

1525
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 2: us she helped create during her decade long run on Oprah,

1526
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 2: she turned into it. She didn't own it from the start.

1527
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 2: Stop she didn't say Oprah was trying to buy NBC.

1528
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 2: She turned into her own network and co founder Blavity

1529
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 2: Morgan Dubar owns this site and everything that happens to it.

1530
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,799
Speaker 2: Alex von Tobel, founder LearnVest dot Com, own her product

1531
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 2: and Solda for two hundred and fifty million. Hey man,

1532
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 2: how much of this site do you own? Ben Carter? Ben?

1533
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 3: Not much?

1534
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 2: How much of blavity do you own?

1535
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 1: Dog?

1536
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 2: These women incur the calls of creating and maintaining their

1537
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 2: own why reach the platform? That means they also own

1538
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 2: the right to make decisions executive control over what direction

1539
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 2: that platform takes. These women are true representations of magic

1540
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 2: happening in media and business. This is hashtag black girl magic.

1541
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 2: Lesson on your masters of risk becoming no more than

1542
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 2: a network's pawn. Wow.

1543
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 3: And it's sad that people are co signing and ship

1544
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 3: in the comments. This is ridiculous.

1545
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 4: Mmm and and now you get ourselves. Just something that

1546
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 4: really ready ready pisces me off, is that when black

1547
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 4: women own anything, it's best, particularly to celebrate themselves. People

1548
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 4: have got to take people take what they mean, and

1549
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 4: they twist it and they turn it and they making

1550
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 4: mean other shit. Because I'm tired of people using hashtag

1551
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 4: black girl magic for shit that it was not goddamn

1552
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 4: intended for right. It was not intended for this, right,

1553
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 4: it was intended for us to love and support ourselves

1554
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 4: for who we are, right, not not not for you,

1555
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 4: not for you to write these goddamn think pieces and

1556
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 4: then be like hashtag black girl magic like it's a

1557
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 4: fucking joke, like it's not real, Like it's not black

1558
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 4: women out here doing fucking great and awesome, wonderful things

1559
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 4: in their lives and never got damn being recognized by anybody,

1560
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 4: sometimes not even their own family and friends. Goddamn not

1561
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 4: even their own husbands and boyfriends. And so it's fucking

1562
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 4: frustrating when people write these have as complimentary insulting think

1563
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 4: pieces because to him, it's complimentary to tell her she

1564
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 4: don't own shit, and then but like hash gar, well,

1565
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 4: you know what, black girl magic fuck you, you know.

1566
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 4: And it's just one of those things where it just

1567
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 4: frustrates me when people do this, particularly black men, because

1568
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 4: you know what, the shit wasn't about you, so you

1569
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 4: had to write something to make it about you. This

1570
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 4: is about Melissa Havings Perry and her relests you with

1571
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 4: MSNBC and didn't have a goddamn thing to do with you.

1572
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 4: So instead of you just letting this shit roll out.

1573
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 4: You had to write an article about something that had

1574
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 4: to rearrange the argument about your black ass, and it

1575
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 4: didn't have a motherfucking thing to do with you.

1576
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 3: D' this sole patron he's just patronized.

1577
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 2: Right, And it's sexist, right. I know more than you

1578
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 2: this what real black girl magic would be, these other women,

1579
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 2: not you. You messed up.

1580
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 3: Take that as a lesson from the nigga that don't

1581
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:13,799
Speaker 3: own blavity.

1582
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 5: Right.

1583
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 4: You might supposed to have said, what about black on

1584
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:16,719
Speaker 4: black crime?

1585
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 3: God damn, what a fucking idiot.

1586
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 4: That's something that I pick up on really really often

1587
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 4: when you read these articles and shit like that, and

1588
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 4: you're like, well, god damn, you're using the hashtag, which

1589
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 4: ain't got a fucking thing to do with your arguments.

1590
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, doesn't it seem like he started with the

1591
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 2: conclusion of I'm going to shit on Melissa Assparry and

1592
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 2: then just like I'll figure a way out to in

1593
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,560
Speaker 2: these next one thousand words.

1594
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 4: Right, because and maybe it's just me and maybe I'm

1595
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 4: just fucking old. Critical thinking skills are gone. People do

1596
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 4: not use critical thinking skills when they write articles. Not

1597
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 4: only that they don't have editors, they don't have people

1598
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:52,560
Speaker 4: that read people shit and go niggas don't make no

1599
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 4: motherfucking sense, cross cross, cross, redo, do it again before

1600
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 4: I post it, because no, nowadays everybody wants to get

1601
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 4: everything got quick, so you just let them post shit.

1602
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 4: And this is the end results when people don't proofread

1603
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:04,799
Speaker 4: your stuff.

1604
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 2: This she forgot, she didn't own her own masses. No,

1605
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 2: she did, she quit, she got fired. You didn't need

1606
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 2: to do the basic research.

1607
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what happened when when there's no journalistic

1608
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 4: integrity and people aren't forced to go find the truth.

1609
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 3: What a haphazardly ridden piece of shit.

1610
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into uh, guess the race one

1611
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 2: hundred for I told you guys what it was gonna be.

1612
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 4: Okay, everybody got one hundred, just a hundred, No, no

1613
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 4: other way, everybody. You know, in case you wasn't listening.

1614
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 4: Before everybody got a hundred, you was playing the whole show.

1615
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 3: I have to tell you. We started off all right.

1616
01:25:55,960 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 6: This time for some guests, though race that's right, that's

1617
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 6: the race time. Now, that is time for some guests.

1618
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Speaker 6: The race las guest the race time.

1619
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 2: That's right, it's time for guest.

1620
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 6: The race.

1621
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,799
Speaker 2: The number one game show going across all the podcasts,

1622
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Speaker 2: and we read or play news artists fall over the globe.

1623
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 2: We ask our contestants today the chat room to guess

1624
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 2: the race, and the chat room is a racist all right.

1625
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 2: I was reading something during that and fucked up the words. Anyway,

1626
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 2: here's here's the first article. Uh, and this happened look

1627
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 2: like this happen is Charlotte. Yeah, that's kind of scary.

1628
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 2: Apparently a woman killed her husband when she caught him

1629
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 2: with another woman. Oh uh, a relative of Crystal Gambino.

1630
01:26:57,960 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 2: Oh no, she's related.

1631
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 3: The child is get BeO.

1632
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 2: Told a Gaston County nine won one operator that Gambino

1633
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 2: told her family that she killed her husband Monday.

1634
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 3: Night at the catching them with another woman.

1635
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 2: The collar who identify her himself as Gambino's brother in law,

1636
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 2: said in his novel One Call that Gambino put the

1637
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 2: body on the other of the other woman in a wheelbarrow.

1638
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 3: Oh wait, before I even get into this, almost fucked up.

1639
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

1640
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Speaker 3: This these guesses of the races is brought to you

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1651
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Speaker 3: Oh are you interested? Are you listening now, Craig, Well

1652
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Speaker 3: you should be.

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Speaker 2: Start your meiling in March out, smooth as eggs, all right,

1660
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Speaker 2: back to the back to this.

1661
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 3: All right.

1662
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: So yeah. The caller, identified himself as Gambino's brother in law,

1663
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 2: said in his novel One Call, that Gambino put the

1664
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 2: body of the other woman in the wheelbarrow and rolled

1665
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 2: her out to a burn pile in the backyard at

1666
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 2: the home. Shout out, Stephen Avis she shared with her husband,

1667
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 2: Giovanni g Ogaino. Crystal Gambino, forty two, remained jail Wednesday

1668
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 2: without bond and Gason County Charter with three council first

1669
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 2: degree murder and the shooting deaths her husband forty, along

1670
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 2: with Jeffrey Glynn Gilly Jeffrey Glenn Gilli Gland and thirty

1671
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 2: nine year olds Stephanie Lynn Sanchez, who was thirty three.

1672
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 3: Okay, so Jeffrey was thirty nine.

1673
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 2: So wait, it was two dudes and a woman. Oh

1674
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 2: little little mmf action.

1675
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 3: Had been by I don't know little.

1676
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 2: Male male female. Multiple multiple media outlets reported that the

1677
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 2: three vicers were shot in the bedroom of Gambino's home

1678
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 2: on Alexis Lucia Road and were naked when they were found.

1679
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 2: Gilliland and Sanchez lived in at the Greenliff End, a

1680
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 2: fifty five dollars a night motel on Marral Road. There

1681
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 2: are people that met. These are people that met, had

1682
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 2: interaction and then came together and then the third party

1683
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 2: did not like it.

1684
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 3: It took action. So it must have been male male

1685
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 3: female threesome, it says.

1686
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 2: And now on one call, says Crystal Gambino told her

1687
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 2: family that she had cleaned up the scene and took

1688
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 2: care of the bodies. Come on, they was gonna catch you,

1689
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 2: Gason County Police said. Officers and college to the home

1690
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 2: at eight pm Monday. Police found the victims after they

1691
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 2: ended the home. They arrested Crystal Gambino in a short

1692
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 2: time later at a religious home in nearby Stanley. A

1693
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 2: portrait of the couple pulled together from interviews with neighbors

1694
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 2: and a collection of public records revealed an unwilling business

1695
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 2: network and sometimes stormy marriage. In two thousand and nine,

1696
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 2: Crystal took out a temporary restraining order against her husband

1697
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 2: and fouled for divorce for questing custody and child sport

1698
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 2: for the couple's daughter, now nine.

1699
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:48,799
Speaker 3: The case was dismissed.

1700
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 2: That same year, Gio Gambino was charged of communicating threats

1701
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 2: against his wife, and that charges later dismissed. Crystal Gambino

1702
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 2: is a singer songwriter whose Crystal Gambino Band performs Americana

1703
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:03,679
Speaker 2: at alternative rock music. According to her biography on Reverb Nation,

1704
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:07,560
Speaker 2: a website that for most musicians, the couple lived in

1705
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 2: a three bedroom home valued at seventy eight thousand dollars.

1706
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 2: It was built by Christal's great grandfather, said her cousin

1707
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:15,640
Speaker 2: Bob Hagar, who lives a mile away. Hagar said he

1708
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,719
Speaker 2: doesn't know Crystal that well, but that Go attendant services

1709
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 2: with them from time to time at Mount Zion Baptist Church.

1710
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 2: Everybody like Go, Hager said Tuesday. He was a good father.

1711
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 2: He had good, great concern for his wife. He asked

1712
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 2: me to pray for her on one occasion. He also

1713
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 2: described Geo Gambino as a strong Christian, having threesomes in

1714
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 2: the house with people from the hotel. Come all right,

1715
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:49,639
Speaker 2: you say so, buddy, ain't giving that strong Christian wood cut.

1716
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 2: According to twenty eleven federal bankruptcy filed jail, Jambino took

1717
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 2: part in the scheme that defaulted the Bank of granted

1718
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:58,679
Speaker 2: out of two hundred and sixty thousand dollars a decade ago,

1719
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 2: and being on his partner than for documents, bank statements,

1720
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 2: tax forms, and other records to make it appear that

1721
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 2: one of the partners in undeployed car salesman was wealthy

1722
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,640
Speaker 2: enough to qualify for a loan to start Gambino New

1723
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,679
Speaker 2: York Deli and specialty Foods. The car sales were identified

1724
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 2: as Richard Allen. Mains did not realize that he too

1725
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 2: was being swindled. The document says he signed the long guarantee.

1726
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 2: Once the money changed hands, was quickly siphoned off by

1727
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:22,719
Speaker 2: Gambino on his other partners. None was spent on the Delhi,

1728
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 2: which the court says was never intended to be built.

1729
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 2: According to the court record, checks and on money wise

1730
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:31,560
Speaker 2: were to numerous parties, including Gil Jambino, Crystal Gambino, and

1731
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 2: other family members.

1732
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 3: This is my fiat shit.

1733
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 2: Mays was held solely responsible for repaying the loan. In

1734
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:42,679
Speaker 2: twenty eleven, the bankruptcy court awarded the bank triple damages,

1735
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 2: leaving Mays libel for almost eight hundred thousand dollars. The

1736
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 2: bank later sued all the partners in the Mecleworth County Court.

1737
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 2: The Gambino's filed for bankruptcy in twenty twelve. Guess the

1738
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:56,639
Speaker 2: race of Crystal Gambino. Oh, they had the nomber one call.

1739
01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 3: February twenty ninths, twenty sixteen, nineteen hours, seventeen minutes, twenty

1740
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 3: seven seconds.

1741
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,639
Speaker 7: Gay killing number one fast six seven with the address

1742
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 7: of your emergency.

1743
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 5: What's this Flucia Road, Alexas Sleeper Road, Alexis Lucia Road,

1744
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 5: Alas Flusha Road. What roads they run there?

1745
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:24,719
Speaker 7: What's it wrong?

1746
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 5: Off of?

1747
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 7: It's near Highway twenty seven?

1748
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 4: Okay?

1749
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 7: What's her nature?

1750
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 5: And what's the home where you call me from?

1751
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 7: I mean that who what happened? My sister in law

1752
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 7: has told the family that she killed her husband. She

1753
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 7: caught him sleeping with another woman, and she cleaned up

1754
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 7: the pull of facings and took care of the body.

1755
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:59,560
Speaker 7: Now her sister is moderately crazy, so we don't know

1756
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 7: the ass the house.

1757
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:03,480
Speaker 5: And different.

1758
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 7: Officer wants to meet me at my house. I can

1759
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 7: give him the keys looking let him in the house.

1760
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 7: What's her name?

1761
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 1: M hm?

1762
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:17,439
Speaker 5: Anybody else?

1763
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 3: And every contact with him he snitches.

1764
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's take the chatteral see what they think.

1765
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 2: My wife who put a head out on her husband

1766
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 2: a Taliano. They were the worst guys. Did this occur

1767
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 2: at on telegraph half? She'll probably be locked up until

1768
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 2: three thousand and five? White black robbin the chat together,

1769
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 2: Vito songs Baby on fire, Better throw him in the

1770
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 2: burn pile. White gold girl, white white woman whose husband

1771
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 2: clearly hated her. She had a three He had a

1772
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 2: three some in her house in her bed. Yeah, she

1773
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 2: walked in like Cisco and ship taking the place my

1774
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 2: the relative someone kissing too many rings? White? The correct

1775
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 2: acid is white. I guess she came home early expecting

1776
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 2: his woman brace, but something was wrong and it was

1777
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 2: written all.

1778
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 3: Over his face.

1779
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, written her face.

1780
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 3: Oh man, let's go to the bonus round, saying the.

1781
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 2: Rast that was a pony, the rast that's right, bonus round.

1782
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 2: I guess the races so far everybody's one for woman really,

1783
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:58,560
Speaker 2: but it's time to see what they can do in

1784
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 2: the bonus round when things they heat up. Bum bump bump,

1785
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 2: bum bomb damn.

1786
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,679
Speaker 3: Jeffrey David Santo, forty three.

1787
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 2: Is accused of fatally stabbing another man who said he

1788
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 2: had a small penis.

1789
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 5: Oh.

1790
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 2: He's been found not guilty of manslaughter by South Australian

1791
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 2: Supreme Court jury. He pleaded not guilty manslaughter of Sean

1792
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 2: Green twenty seven and who cares where?

1793
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 5: Uh uh.

1794
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:34,600
Speaker 2: The jury heard that mister Green was stabbed in the

1795
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 2: head after getting angry that he had lost the pouch

1796
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 2: containing meth and cannabis. The two agreed to retrace the

1797
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:44,719
Speaker 2: route and find the drugs that ended up at Riddleton.

1798
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 2: At the Riddleton units, the court heard mister Green was

1799
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:51,719
Speaker 2: searching the driveway in an increasingly agitated way when Santo

1800
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:54,639
Speaker 2: told him he should not get angry at him from

1801
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 2: his place in his own things said to told the

1802
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 2: court that mister Green became more agitated took off his clubes.

1803
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 2: They proved that he did that I had the drugs,

1804
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 2: Santo said. He then stripped off all his clothes too.

1805
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 2: I told the court that he said mister Green that

1806
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 2: he did not have any drugs. Don't I don't rip

1807
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 2: off mates. I'm old school, he said. I stood up

1808
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:18,879
Speaker 2: face towards the road and pulled down my pants and underwear.

1809
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 2: Santo said, at that point he made me. He made

1810
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:25,560
Speaker 2: what he said was a joke about the size of

1811
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:28,720
Speaker 2: mister Green's penis. I said, I'm using, I'm using the

1812
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 2: cold weather. What's your excuse. Santo told police that mister

1813
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:35,600
Speaker 2: Green had a pocket knife and had approached him, and

1814
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 2: that the killing was in self defense. I was near

1815
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 2: his face. I said to him, do you want to

1816
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 2: stab me? And then sean snap out of it. Well,

1817
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 2: I just did what most people would do. I just

1818
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 2: grab both his hands. Alarm bells are going. I thought

1819
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,599
Speaker 2: I was gone, someone coming at you with a knife.

1820
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 2: I just thought I was fucked. I was scared shitless

1821
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 2: to tell you the truth. Santo told the court he

1822
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,680
Speaker 2: found a pair of black handled scissors in his car

1823
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 2: and eventually decided to protect himself by stabbing mister Green

1824
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:04,639
Speaker 2: in the arm. He said, in the panic and still

1825
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 2: fearing that mister Green might have been bluffing. When he

1826
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 2: fell to the ground, he picked up the scissors and

1827
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 2: the knife, got in the car and drove, and later

1828
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,840
Speaker 2: throwing the scissors out of the car window. Santo was

1829
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 2: found by police a few days later sleeping in another

1830
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 2: car in the driveway of a vacant house oh Okay.

1831
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 2: Prosecutor Tim Pressure said witnesses, including mister Green's girlfriend, would

1832
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 2: tell the court he was unarmed. He suggested there was

1833
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 2: no lawful excuse for Santo's offending. The prosecution contends that

1834
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:32,719
Speaker 2: the accused of not acting in self offense and according

1835
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 2: to the stabbing of the deceased was both unlawful and dangerous.

1836
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,600
Speaker 2: Prosecution also contends that the stabbin was disproportionate to the

1837
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:42,560
Speaker 2: threat posed by decease and therefore unlawful. A jury deliberated

1838
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 2: for a little over an hour and a half before

1839
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 2: you netically find the Santos not guilty of manslaughter. Guess

1840
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 2: the race of mister Jeffrey David Santos the small penis bandit. Uh,

1841
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 2: let's see what they say in the chat room. A

1842
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:03,799
Speaker 2: literal dick measuring contest that led to an assault instead

1843
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:07,600
Speaker 2: of mutual respect. Pete Caucasidy, Yeah, these boys should have

1844
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 2: both been running for a Republican president. A white man

1845
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 2: who brought a brought a packagknoight to a sword fight.

1846
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 2: He was lacking down under Aussie white. Uhh, that's good,

1847
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 2: Donald Trump supporter. What color were the socks he's stuck

1848
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 2: in his pants? Well, he was taking dick picks white

1849
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 2: three fourths of the Ghostbusters. Oh yeah, he was right, y'all,

1850
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 2: y'all all got it right. Damn buddy killed his friend

1851
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 2: with the small penis joke gone wrong. Yes, people fragile

1852
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 2: about them penises. Man, shout everybody in podcast laying that

1853
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:05,720
Speaker 2: as soon as I said small penises like white, y'all,

1854
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:07,640
Speaker 2: y'all shame y'allselves.

1855
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 4: Damn black men with big I mean black man. Lord

1856
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,640
Speaker 4: see y'all being racist white men with big penises.

1857
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I know a lot of y'all racist,

1858
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 2: is all what I'm saying. Uh, all right, let's get

1859
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 2: out of here on some sword ratchetess if I can there,

1860
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 2: we go now, say I got a small penis Samurai

1861
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 2: sword Psycho cut down to size. A Dominisko convicted a

1862
01:40:57,000 --> 01:41:00,200
Speaker 2: brutally stabbing a mother of three in her trailer, then

1863
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 2: stealing her car deliberately plowing it into three female runners,

1864
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 2: whilst will spend the rest of his life behind bars.

1865
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 2: Jason Anthony Warren, who committed the horrific crimes in twenty twelve,

1866
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 2: used a samurai sword to cut the first victim, Dorothy

1867
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 2: ol Rich, and her Hooper, California home. During this getaway,

1868
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 2: he fatally struck Susanne Seamen. Oh that's unfortunate last name,

1869
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:25,600
Speaker 2: as she it spelled as ee m A n N.

1870
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:30,560
Speaker 2: But you know her childhood was fucked up. As she

1871
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 2: jibed with her friends Terry Roman Little and Jessica Hunt

1872
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:39,800
Speaker 2: that one could be unfortunate, but I'm gonna say Jessica

1873
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:45,599
Speaker 2: Hunt probably not as bad as Susie Seamen, who were

1874
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 2: both severely injured but survived the nightmare assault. Dorothy forty seven,

1875
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 2: was spot up with the tattoo creep worn the day

1876
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:55,080
Speaker 2: before her death. Her husband, I mean her sister in law.

1877
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 2: Dorothy's body had four deep said. Dorothy's body had four.

1878
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 2: The wounds, one of which pierced her heart, as well

1879
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 2: as wooms the heir, shoulders and arms, and chopping injuries

1880
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:08,640
Speaker 2: to the head. There was enough evidence of There was

1881
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 2: also evidence of strangulation. Damn, this dude was crazy. You

1882
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 2: probably just hated women and shit and just finally got

1883
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 2: tired of listening to Jail's podcast and said I'm gonna

1884
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 2: do something about this shit.

1885
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:18,639
Speaker 1: Ah.

1886
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:23,639
Speaker 2: Among the ghastly evidence introduced in court were a shattered

1887
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 2: windshield spotted with dark brown stains and blood smears on

1888
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 2: the car's emergency break candle. One of Susan's shoes was

1889
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 2: found and nearly it'll feel nearly eighty feet away from

1890
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 2: the point of impact where the vehicle struck her.

1891
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 3: Jessica's dog, Maggie, was found.

1892
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 2: Dead to the dish. Then we killed the dog. He

1893
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 2: was a wicked witch of the West.

1894
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 4: In this house, You're gonna get some of this.

1895
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:48,120
Speaker 6: Uh.

1896
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 2: It was no wonder that after seven grueling weeks, the

1897
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 2: Jerry found the monstros psychopath guilty. It took him seven weeks.

1898
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 2: I would have been like, look, you guys want to

1899
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 2: partinue and then we in here till lunch, or y'all

1900
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 2: just want to go get something to eat on our own.

1901
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 2: Come on, dog, mister Warren will never get out of prison,

1902
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 2: said Judge Timothy Sisna, confirming the killer's life sentence.

1903
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 3: We're good for everybody involved, all right, guys, Adam and

1904
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:15,720
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1905
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1906
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 2: shoutout out productions. Don't forget Saturday. We're gonna be live

1907
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 2: tweeting all my premium peoples. We're gonna be on there

1908
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 2: live tweeting eight o'clock and more details coming Wednesday. All right,

1909
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 2: until then, I feel like this is a good, healthy,

1910
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:38,720
Speaker 2: uh show about racism.

1911
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 5: Uh.

1912
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:42,639
Speaker 3: This is the kind of show where we uh lose

1913
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 3: a lot of fans.

1914
01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:46,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, something ban tapu. It's gonna be a lot

1915
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 4: of people that getting into this show.

1916
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't write your angry emails in don't passively aggressively

1917
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 2: tag I show on Facebook talking about we hit a miss.

1918
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,639
Speaker 2: Don't just just leave it alone.

1919
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 3: It'll we'll be back tomorrow talking about different shit.

1920
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 2: If you didn't like this, but I'll never support putting

1921
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 2: black people in a box because we're black, all right. Man,

1922
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 2: Go out and get your freedom on your masters until tomorrow.

1923
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 2: I love you.

1924
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 4: I love you too, Lah