1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Chase Utley and this is the Philly Show. Hi, everybody, 2 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Philly Show. Ruben Hmar Junior, Jim Salisbury, 3 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: Todd's lucky. We're part of the foul Territory Network. Friday, 4 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: August twenty ninth, twenty twenty four. Guys, how are we 5 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: doing today's had Phillies had a big win last night. 6 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Nick Cassi is feeling good. Nick Casti came out the 7 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: other night post game. I'm sure you guys saw it. 8 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: He comes out, he's got his CP ranking had on. 9 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: Not that we're we're not there, We're they're not a 10 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: sponsor of ours, but he must they must be a 11 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: sponsor his and comes out without a shirt on, does 12 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: his interview. 13 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: He's getting at roofwork done and he's getting a little 14 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: chess war. Yeah yeah. 15 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: And then last night last night though, he came out, 16 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: came out with the shirt on, so he's a little 17 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: bit more modest last night. I mean, it was a 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: big home run, but it wasn't. It was a two 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: run shot versus a three run shot. So yeah, yeah, we. 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: Had to go with like a tank top. 21 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right, exactly right. But I mean they're having 22 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: fun obviously, you know, uh, Brandon marsh with a big 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: home run in the sixth inning, Nick cast now is 24 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: big home run, the seventh thing, go ahead? Big win 25 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: last night, I mean one of the biggest of the year. 26 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: I mean I I I you know people say that 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: all the time, right, is this the biggest win of 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: the year or one of the biggest wins of the year, 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: And it seems like there's a million of the million 30 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: of them. But I feel like it's maybe true. 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: Last night important, super super important, you know, because you 32 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: know you maintain or you go to six games up 33 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: day comes off the schedule against your big rival who's 34 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: trying to chase you down. You lose that game, you're 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: down to four. It's just and it you know, much 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: like the Schwarber Grand Slam game ten days ago, emotional 37 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: win with a big dagger type hit that it's one 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: of those wins you can build off. I think you 39 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: get a couple more because of the momentum. So I 40 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: thought it was just an amazing, huge win because you know, 41 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: they left like they left seven men on base through 42 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: the first five innings. You're like, uh, oh, one of 43 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: those nights. And then two big home runs, two big daggers, 44 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: and it lifts everybody and you build on it. The 45 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: bullpen was great, Like they didn't really go up good 46 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: throughout this entire home stand against Houston. They were good 47 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: that first night against Houston. I think they had four 48 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: shutout and last night three plus shutout. I mean, just 49 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: great job by the bullpen locking that baby down. But 50 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: I mean, home runs are so important to this team. Look, 51 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: they're important to every team. And you can say, you know, 52 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: the Phillies win when they hit home runs, most teams 53 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: when they hit home runs. 54 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: Home runs have an impact on all teams. 55 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 3: The thing about the Phillies is they don't, you know, 56 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: have a lot of ways to win ball games when 57 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: they don't hit home runs. Other teams do. So you know, 58 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: they need to slug the ball. And last night was 59 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: case in point. Castianos right now, I mean, the marsh 60 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: home run was fascinating in the strategy employed by Brian 61 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: Snitker kind of blew up in his face. Then I 62 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: noticed he said the ball was wind blown. That was 63 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: a little and then Castianos is not missing if you throwing, 64 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 3: if you make a mistake over the plate. Right now, 65 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: he's in such a good groove. He is not missing it. 66 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: He is smoking it. 67 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: He is Yeah. I mean, I don't know if you 68 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: guys saw the post game, but I was on post 69 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: game last night and I had to apologize to Dave Dombrowski. 70 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: I left after the fifth inning to go back to 71 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: do that seventh inning hit back to the studio, and 72 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: I basically had my camera or my phone in my 73 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: face as I was looking at something, and I said 74 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: something like these guys don't have a chance against the 75 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: Braves or something like that, and Dave Dombrowski came walking 76 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: out of his office. He's like, well, that wasn't very optimistic. 77 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god. I literally stuck my 78 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 2: foot into my mouth. But I mean, listen, you were right, Jim. 79 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: They were dead in the water. I mean, they had 80 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: opportunities left and right and just did not get it done. 81 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: But it also shows a lot about the resilience of 82 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: the team. I mean, listen, I'm a fan too, so 83 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: I was. I was disappointed because I thought it was 84 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: gonna be one of those games where they missed opportunities, 85 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: they weren't going to be able to bounce back, and 86 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: they did so great job of resilience. You mentioned the bullpen. 87 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: They've been outstanding. Great job by Rob Thompson, and hey man, 88 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: you need everybody to step forward. And you know, Marshi 89 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: had three really poor at bats. He had a couple 90 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: of strikeouts, and then you know, you know, all of 91 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: a sudden, there was a breaking ball and was hanging 92 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: in the middle of the plate for him and he 93 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 2: crushed at the left center field and God bless him. 94 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: He had a big home run. And then you know, 95 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: Castianis has been We talked about this, he's been their 96 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: most consistent offensive player. Man, he's been really outstanding. What 97 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: I thought was really interesting about that at bat he 98 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: got a first pitch fastball from Holmes, and he felt 99 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,559 Speaker 2: it's sort of surprising because I think he was looking 100 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: for like an off speed pitch, much like you know, 101 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: the very lander at bat. I think off speed pitch. 102 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 2: And he fouled it back and he thought to himself, 103 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 2: you know what becomes with another fastball, I better not 104 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: miss it. And he came with another fastball and it 105 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: didn't get in enough and he stayed through it and 106 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: hit it out of the ballpark. It was a magical 107 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: moment for the fans of a magical moment for the team, 108 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: and that lockdown bullpen was just spectacular O'Ryan Kirkering has 109 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: taken a couple of steps forward over the last couple 110 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: of weeks where he is now throwing his fastball with conviction. 111 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: He's trusting it. He's got a ninety seven min out 112 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: of fastball. Sometimes you can sink it. Sometimes he gets 113 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: it up to ninety eight. But he's starting to command 114 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: that pitch. No walks out of the bullpen, five strike 115 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: three and a third, great effort, super super huge win. 116 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: I believe that it's the biggest win of the season, 117 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: no doubt. 118 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: It's good that you mentioned Ryan Kirker and I think 119 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: he's been really stepping up lately. You're right, Rubin, and 120 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: then you mentioned Castianos. He did say exactly what you said, 121 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: which is he missed that first fastball and he's he 122 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: looked back to his it was I think it is 123 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: his first at bat in the first inning against Charlie Morton. 124 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: There was runners runners on first and second, I think, 125 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: and Morton threw three straight fastballs to him, so in 126 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: his head he's like, I think they might I better 127 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: be I'm not missing this fastball. I cannot miss this fastball. 128 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: If there's another fastball, sure enough, fastball crushes it. Nick 129 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: Castianos since May nineteenth, batting two eighty fifteen home runs, 130 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: fifty six RBIs, eight seventeen ops. That's why he's hitting 131 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: fifth again, gentlemen. 132 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: And probably hitting fourth today if Bom can't bounce. 133 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: Back, right, Yeah, we should mention that. Yeah, Alec Bohm 134 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: hurt his left hand on a swing in the first inning. 135 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: State in the game, went in the tunnel, tried to hit, 136 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: was uncomfortable swinging in the bat, came out of the 137 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: game in the third inning. X rays word negative. Rob 138 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: Thompson said, there is just some soreness there. So we'll 139 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: see if he's in the lineup today. So yeah, you 140 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: would think Nick would be hitting fourth if if Al 141 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: can't go, that would be a. 142 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: Big That's he's an important player. I mean he can't 143 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: start with some players and hands and feet are so. 144 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: Important in this game. 145 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: Immediately about hands all the time, Ruben, you know, just 146 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: you know, he's the way he winced. It was like, oh. 147 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: Boy, Yeah, I thought I was like, oh my gosh, 148 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: handmaid man, don't be a handmaid. 149 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: That's the very first thing I thought him when I 150 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: saw him, and it looked like on the swing it 151 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: was like a two strike swing. He was protecting, and 152 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: I think he was sort of looking for an off 153 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: speed pitch and he had to like throw us back 154 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: to the into the zone and had had to kind 155 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: of flip it. And I've had that you fouled it off. 156 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: I've had that happen to me, Like have those stingers 157 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: where you know, you pull some sort of there's so 158 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: many little muscles and tendons and stuff in your hand 159 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: that maybe like tweak something, so he may be down 160 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: a day or so. I don't think it's an il situation, 161 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 2: but I've been through that and then. And in fact, 162 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: that happened to me just before I got traded to 163 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: the Phillies way way back in ninety one. I was 164 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: playing in winter ball and I took it like a 165 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: weird swing one time, and I was sort of on 166 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: the on the shelf for like a day or so 167 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: in winter ball, and that's when I got the call. 168 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 2: I think it was in December of like ninety one 169 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: that I got traded to the Phillies. And I said, well, 170 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: my hand's been bothering me. And I said whyt you 171 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: just shut it down and come home, And that's what 172 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 2: I did. 173 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you Ruben go Jim. 174 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: Now, I don't want to, I don't want to ruin 175 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: you train of thought, but I will. I just was curious, like, 176 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 3: were you surprised that Brian Snicker didn't bring in a 177 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: lefty to face Brandon? 178 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 4: Really surprised all the talk, all that's been written and 179 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 4: talked about Marsha's struggles against left handed pitching, it almost 180 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,479 Speaker 4: seemed like a textbook moment for lefty. 181 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: One hundred percent agree. Bummers started warming up a couple 182 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: of batters earlier, so I assumed that he was going 183 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: to come into the game, and I wrote this letter, 184 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: Brandon marsh against lefties this season, betting two hundred and 185 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: five thirty two ops. These numbers are obviously wave flipped 186 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: and improved against against right handed pitching, So it was 187 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: it was definitely a head scratcher in the moment. I 188 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: don't know, I. 189 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 2: Have a feeling that we went with his field right 190 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: there in that in so much that then I say feel, 191 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: I mean, the first two at bats, didn't he punch 192 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: him out twice? Yeah? He did strike out, made him 193 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: look not very good. I mean, I mean he was 194 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: not on him at all. And listen to his credit, 195 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: to to Marsh's credit, I mean he stayed in me. 196 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: At bat, he got a breaking ball and he got 197 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: it over out over the plate and he smoked it 198 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: to left center field. Now, after the after the game, 199 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: he talked about that that particular pitch or that his 200 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: you know, his uh you know, best path to this 201 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: to the swing is to drive the ball to left 202 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: center field. He called it his honey hoole. Yeah, my 203 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 2: honey holes and left. It was funny as hell, but 204 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: you know it's true. Like certain guys like they have 205 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: to understand themselves. Charlie uh Manuel used to talk about 206 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: this all the time. You have to know thyself and 207 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: understand what what what you're really good at, what your 208 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: what your pluses are, and what your minuses are and 209 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: understand those. And for Brandon Marsh, his you know, knowing 210 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: thyself is to drive the ball to the left center field. 211 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: Because he's got great backspinn he can drive the ball. 212 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: He's got good power that way. He's got a few 213 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: home runs that way. I think he hit a double 214 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: that way as well early in the game. But when 215 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: he's in the middle of the field and driving the 216 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: ball to left center field. That's what that's that's his money. 217 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: It's just an example that in this ball, in this game, 218 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: really in all sports, you have a tough moment early 219 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: in the game, you can't give up on yourself because 220 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: you still have a chance to make a huge contribution 221 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: later in the game. And if you're beating up yourself 222 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: and pouta on the end of the bench, you are cooked. 223 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 3: He strikes out twice, comes back with the hit of 224 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 3: the game. It was, you know, a really nice bit 225 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 3: of perseverance and triumph for me. 226 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: Brandon Marsh from July twelfth to August twenty second is 227 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: betting one fifty two four eighty seven ops and thirty 228 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: two games, striking out over forty percent of the time. 229 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: His last seven games betting three forty six ops over 230 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: one thousand, strikeout rates down to thirty four percent. So 231 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: he's putting the ball in play a little bit more. 232 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: He's hitting the ball to left center field. 233 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: I actually, I actually, when they were on the road, 234 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 2: I actually asked Thompson, like, how how long is Brandon 235 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: Marsh's leased? Because he was striking out at like a 236 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 2: fifty percent rate for about two weeks. I was like, Yeah, 237 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 2: she's oh man and to his credit, Man, he's bounced 238 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: back and really helped this ball club and they need him. 239 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: They need him to lengthen out that lineup, and they 240 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: need some protection for the other guys, guys like Castianos 241 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: and others in that lineup. I liked them. 242 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: In the ninth inning, how wrote Rojas came into the 243 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: game and played some center field and moved marsh over 244 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: to left And I feel like they haven't done it 245 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: too much of that, like late defensive substitutions and mean, 246 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: it's a no brainer for me, but that was nice 247 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: to have be able to slide marsh over to left field, 248 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: have Rojas play center. 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Get unique throwback phillies, te ats in sweatshirts 273 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: from their local artists at the Shopton Senate City, Wayne 274 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: and websteris dot com guys. This week's Them's Fighting Words 275 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: comes from Taiwan Walker quote after his start the other 276 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: day Wednesday. It's obviously not the best times. I feel 277 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: like I've never really struggled like this, Like I just 278 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: segue to get into the decision that the Phillies made yesterday. 279 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: Hinted strongly at it on Wednesday night that he is 280 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: going to move to the bullpen for the remainder of 281 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: the season. Say he's can be a long man, basically 282 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: a mop up man. I'm going to assume that none 283 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: of you guys are surprised unless one of you two 284 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: guys thought that he was going to be dfaid on Thursday. 285 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: I'm not surprised he's out of the rotation. It was 286 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: the only move you could make. It had to be made, 287 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: and I'm not surprised that he was not dfaid because 288 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: I think you can you can get them through the 289 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 3: final month on the roster. You can make it work 290 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: without booting him out the back door, and you can 291 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: make a decision on what's going to happen in the 292 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: future in the off season. I said it the other day, 293 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: I'd be surprised to see him in clear Water. I'm 294 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: not saying it won't happen, but I'd be surprised. I 295 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: think I think you know, there may be an exit strategy. 296 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: Here, but not right now. 297 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: And you know what, I'm glad they did in DFAM. 298 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: You know why. 299 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: I thought he showed a lot of class sucking up 300 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: those two innings the other day, those extra two innings 301 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: when he had nothing, when a lot of guys would 302 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 3: have come in the dugout and complained, my manager's leaving, 303 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: leaving me out there to die and embarrassing me. And 304 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: he said, I'm going to suck up these two winnings 305 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: and help save the bullpen before before a big series 306 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: against Atlanta, And oh what happened last night? The bullpen 307 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 3: pitched really good. So I thought that was I thought 308 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: it was. It was honorable, and it was good teammate 309 00:15:55,320 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: behavior and showed a lot of class. I could we 310 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: beat the crap out of the guy. Let's tip our 311 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 3: hat to him when when he did something pretty pretty honorable. 312 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: I could not agree more. I mean, that was he 313 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: and he said it, Jim. Right after the game, he said, 314 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to wear it because we have a big 315 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: He came out and said, we have a big series 316 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: coming up against the Braves. I want to be I 317 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: wanted to keep the bullpen fresh, so I want I 318 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: wanted to go out and pitch the next coupleings. He's like, 319 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: I would have gone out and pitched the seventh that 320 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: if you know, if I could have gone out and 321 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: pitched the seventh. So yeah, I mean he's getting murdered. 322 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: He's getting killed Phillies. Fans don't like him. I get it, 323 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: he hasn't produced. But that was a that says something 324 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: about him and his willingness to try to help this team, 325 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: that he sucked it up after getting rocked in that 326 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: in that fourth in and going out and pitch a 327 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: couple of innings. Hey, maybe they had to pitch Ryan 328 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: Kirkering or one of these guys. Maybe they're not as 329 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: effective last night, maybe they give up a bomb and 330 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: maybe they don't win that game. So you don't know, 331 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: but it was that was that did say something about him. 332 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, completely agree with what you guys are saying. And 333 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: I was a little taken him back by the fact 334 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: that he you know, he's a prideful guy. Man, this 335 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: is a guy who's never been there before. And when 336 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: he was saying, you know, we were trying to you know, 337 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: our game plan was trying to get quick outs and 338 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: and you know, soft contact well, there's no self contact happening. 339 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: He just has not pitch well. And you know, I 340 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: sort of wish he would have just said, listen, I've 341 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: been terrible and I got to get better or I 342 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 2: have to do something different, or whatever the case may be. 343 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: But that said actually speak louder the words. I was 344 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: very impressed by the fact that he stayed in there. 345 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: Number One, guys don't do that in this day and age, 346 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 2: and they don't wear it, as you said, Jim, and 347 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: the fact that he did sort of save the bullpen. 348 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: The other thing is, as far as the DMVA is concerned, 349 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that he didn't. Obviously the money is 350 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: a big factor, but I mean, you got to try 351 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: to salvage. This is too much money and there's so 352 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: few starting so little starting pitching out there that you've 353 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: got to sort of try to salvage the guy. I 354 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 2: actually think he's going to come back and be in 355 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: clear Water next year. I think they're gonna put him 356 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: on some type of program to try to strengthen his arm, 357 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: or he's going to have to do something. I mean, 358 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: I got to believe that he has enough pride in 359 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: himself if he wants to continue to pitch that he's 360 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: going to come back and try to do something in 361 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: the off season to get him to the point where 362 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 2: he is a more effective pitcher, because he has to 363 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: be able to separate that fastball from the split. And 364 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 2: if he can do that, then he's got a fighter's 365 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 2: chance to least help them eat some innings next year. 366 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: And that's really all you can ask from a guy 367 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: like that who's starting to you know, obviously starting to 368 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 2: decline as far as his arm speed is gone. It's concerned. 369 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: When I think about next year, I just think about 370 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: like you come to spring training and it becomes a 371 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 3: big story again. It's like, here we go again. 372 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 2: You know. 373 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 3: You know, as a front office guy, those things can 374 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 3: be they can be a real pain in the ass. 375 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: They can be a distraction. Here we go again. Okay, 376 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 3: can he build an off arm speed so we can 377 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 3: maybe trade him or maybe he can help I just 378 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 3: think at thirty with he's thirty two and what we've seen. 379 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's coming back, you know, but 380 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: I guess in this day and age, with all the 381 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: technology based ways to you know, dive into a body 382 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: and maybe strengthen I don't know, maybe he goes in 383 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 3: camps out of drive line for two months. You know, 384 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: I don't know what what what can happen, But I 385 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: just feel like I've seen enough baseball at these stories. 386 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: Often. 387 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just it's hard to get it 388 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: back when you when you headed headed downhill at that 389 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: rate of speed. 390 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: Damn, my heart says that the guys, you know, basically 391 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: or my head basically says that he's just not going 392 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: to bounce back when my heart says, you know, maybe 393 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: he's got something left in the tank and then they 394 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 2: can try to tap into it. 395 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: All right, Let's let's say he wasn't owed thirty six 396 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: million and he was owed a lot less. Do you 397 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: think they would have DF if it wasn't just if 398 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: the money wasn't so huge. Do you think they. 399 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: We you know, I actually have a feeling like if 400 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: they feel like they've clinched or they've gotten to the 401 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: point where they're like have home field advantage, whatever, they 402 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 2: need somebody to start gains. They're gonna need him to 403 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: start a game. They you know, they made him for 404 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 2: a long, you know, long stretch. They might get blown 405 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 2: out one game. They need somebody to go in there 406 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 2: and pitch, and the Mercados of the world aren't getting 407 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: it done. I mean, that's that's terrible. I feel badly 408 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: for that kid, but you know he's right now, he's 409 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: not a major league pitcher, and so you don't want 410 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: to put that kid in that position, and you don't 411 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: want to do that for the team. So I mean 412 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 2: a guy like having a guy like Taiwan Walker around, 413 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 2: you know, it's least as durable enough to maybe get 414 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 2: through somebmittings. You got to have that kind of have 415 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: those guys around. 416 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: The depth factor for the rest of the season is huge. 417 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: Telling somebody last night, is he ever gonna start again 418 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 3: for the Phillies? I actually said that. I said, you know, 419 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 3: they clinched with six games to go. I could see 420 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: them pitching him with four to go and saying, just 421 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 3: give us three. So but it I just don't know 422 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: that I want to go down this road again next 423 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 3: year unless I say some dramatic evidence that he has 424 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 3: found something in the offseason. 425 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: So to no, I was gonna say. People ask me 426 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 1: the same thing, like why not just dfam get rid 427 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: of He's not gonna help in the bullpen and I 428 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: was thinking this, like maybe they're just trying to protect 429 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: themselves against like thermal nuclear war where all of a sudden, 430 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: you know, you don't want to get too cocky, right 431 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: and go, there's no way he's pitching again next year, 432 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: guys or this season. There's no way you're ever going 433 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: to start him again, and not even in a clinch situation. 434 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: But what if Rangers swores his back X up again. 435 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: What if Kobe Allard gets hurt? You know, Rob Thompson 436 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: always likes to talk about Shinburger's. You know, a guy 437 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: takes a ball off the shin, he's got to you know, 438 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 1: he he gets injured for a few games, and all 439 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're going, holy crap, why did we 440 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: get rid of Taiwan Walker when rosters are expanding on 441 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: Sunday with a month ago? I mean, you know what 442 00:21:59,640 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: is there. 443 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: We couldn't have sucked it. 444 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: We couldn't have sucked it up for one month. So 445 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: that was part of my my thinking is that, you know, 446 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: just just protect yourself for one month and he's not 447 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: going to pitch in the postseason, he's not going to 448 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: make the postseason roster, but just protect yourself against from 449 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: against some sort of like massive calamity. 450 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 2: And I think you got to do it for the 451 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: team like that. For me, you you don't start him 452 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: because you don't want to affect the team negatively. You 453 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: don't start him anymore unless you absolutely have to. And 454 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: if you have to, then you go ahead and throw 455 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: him out there. You know he's going to be avail. 456 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's If they would have released him, dfad him 457 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: that he was owed, he would have been outed around 458 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: thirty nine million dollars. 459 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: That's it. 460 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. That's not jeh Mel thing. 461 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 2: He would have been like the second that would have 462 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 2: been like the second most in the history. 463 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: Right. 464 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: I think Pablo Sandoval was like forty three or something 465 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: like that. 466 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Pablo Sandoval and own twenty seventeen, the Red Sox 467 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 1: dfad him. He was outed about forty nine million. Uh 468 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: Robinson Cano, the Mets dfa him in twenty twenty two. 469 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: He was owed about thirty seven point six. Jose Breier 470 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: this year, astros Ode thirty, Madison Bumgartner, Madison Mungbar last 471 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: year was about thirty four. So yes, Rubin, he would 472 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: have been the second biggest DFA ever. Not get down 473 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: to thirty six. If you wanted. 474 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: To season, go big or go home. It's a rough ticket. 475 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a rough ticket. So we had a 476 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: couple leftover questions from last week. We got so many 477 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: questions on Wednesday and we went long. We went real 478 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: long because there were so many good ones. But you 479 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: guys want to answer a couple more here before we 480 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: get out of here. 481 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: Before let's do it. 482 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: Let's make it tight, all right, let's do it. So 483 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: we'll just do a couple Uh. Does Rob Thompson rely 484 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: on analytics or does he ever use his gut instincts? 485 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: This is tim on X. I think he uses got 486 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: instincts all the time, all the time. 487 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: He's a blend guy. 488 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 489 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: I think leading up to the game he takes all 490 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: that analytical information and then I think during the dugout 491 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 3: he's processing it all and it's coming out his. 492 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 2: Gut boom right agreement, Okay, Yeah, if the fills more 493 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: more gut than analytics, I think. Yeah. 494 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: I think there's the way he handle the team and 495 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: the lineup. 496 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: I mean he uses all the time, but he's prepared 497 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: like he's already prepared, like the different scenarios man before 498 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: he gets into the situation like, Okay, this is my guy. 499 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: He's a plus guy. This is my minus guy. This 500 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: is where I'm let to use him in this pocket 501 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: and that pocket. I mean, he's pretty well prepared. Now, 502 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: you have to make adjustments as a game goes on 503 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: because the game changes. But he's very, very well prepared, 504 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 2: believe it. 505 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, if the Fills end up in the one or 506 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: two seed, who do you guys prefer their opponent to 507 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: be in the NLDS. This that's from Manny faces on X. 508 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: I don't care because they can beat anybody if they 509 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 3: play good crisp baseball, make plays behind their pictures, get 510 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: seven innings from their stars. It's all about how they play. 511 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: They can beat anybody at anytime if you play good. 512 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 3: Situational hitting is good, base run is good, don't give 513 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 3: extra bases. I worry about my own clubhouse more than 514 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 3: I worry about the or my own lineup card and 515 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: my own bullpen more than the other teams. They can 516 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 3: beat anybody. 517 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: I talk to somebody, a scout that both of you 518 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: guys know. I won't name him, but the other day 519 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: in the press club he made a great point. He said, 520 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: this is the best team in baseball, hands down, from 521 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: top to bottom. The Phillies are the best team in baseball. 522 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: So you know, it's funny because they've been playing terribly 523 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: for a couple months, and a lot of people here 524 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: think they're not very good. He's like, no, they are 525 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: the best. If they get it going, they are the 526 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: best roster in Major League Baseball. I've seen all the 527 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: other teams. They're not as good. They're not as good. 528 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: So if they had the good pitching and they're hitting, 529 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna win. They're gonna win. 530 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 2: So you gotta play well. You just when it's time 531 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: to play well, you gotta play well. 532 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: All right, Well, guys, that was fun. We'll be back 533 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: early next week. See we'll wrap up the rest of 534 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: this brave series three big games coming Friday, Saturday, Sunday night. 535 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: Smelly guys, Smady Jeff. 536 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 8: This is the Philly Show. If you haven't already, please 537 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 8: subscribe to The Philly Show wherever you get your podcasts. 538 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 8: You can also watch us on our YouTube channel. If 539 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 8: you like what we do, give us a review, tell 540 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 8: a friend. 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