WEBVTT - Matthew Lawrence Meets World 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:20.640 I think it's well known by this point that, Um, 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:24.760 I'm not hugely a fan of children. They're wonderful little 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:26.880 little things that can follow you around and a loud 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:30.240 and carry disease, but not at your house. The other 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.800 day and I was I came back and I told 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:37.120 Sue the story about ad They're coming out and transforming 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:41.400 into the Hulk. Yeah, but halfway through transforming into the Hulk, 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.360 trying to pull up the bottom of his pants and 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:48.280 pull up his sleeves so that it looked like he 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.479 was ripping out of his Hulk clothes. But he couldn't 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:52.199 get it, so he broke character in the middle and 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:54.000 You're like, do you need help? He's like, yeah, I 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:59.760 need helps and over paused. He paused the performance. You 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.800 wocked over. You tucked up both his little little shorts, 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.039 little pants, and then the little sleeves, and he instantly 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.399 jumped back in ter and he came back in and 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:09.920 it was one of the cutest things I've seen in 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.959 a very long time. I was immediately one of the transition. 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:14.880 And then he was like trying to pull the pants 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.240 back down to normal, and he was getting frustrated with that. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.679 You know, I love so funny got his commitment, like 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:22.880 I love. He kept looking at his hands like yeah, 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:27.720 it was like the realization of the transformation is happening, 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:31.920 but the breaking character in the middle to be like 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:37.400 help mommy, and he was perfect. It really was pretty awesome. 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.600 So yeah, he's pretty great. He's he's really performative. Whenever 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:45.199 writer talks about Indie and his performative nature, I'm like, yeah, 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.960 we have one of those two. Like he's definitely he really, 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:51.080 I mean, and you guys saw him at his worst too. 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.040 He woke up from his nap. It wasn't a very 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.360 good nap. He's not feeling well. He like hid for 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.040 basically what forty five minutes from you guys didn't want 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.240 to cry if I left the couch and then went 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.800 into the other room, got into a better mood, and 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:05.760 then came out. And you guys just saw him at 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.519 one of his best. It's like, it's just so literally 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:13.600 just described an actor. I cried on a couch forty 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:22.680 five minutes. Dad, person, who's going to help me fix 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:26.600 these clothes? I walked away, I got centered, I found myself. 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:31.600 I came back out and I performed just what we're saying. Oh, 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:36.160 my gosh, this is this is hitting very close to home. 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:39.680 Oh my gosh. Well, thank you for sharing that, Will, 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.640 because I did. I did worry that at some point 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:43.760 you were going to be like, I don't know, burning 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:50.200 from the inside. Many children anything, it's being around them, 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:51.720 and they're very funny and I get to see moments 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.000 like that. It makes me love when I come home 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.399 and they're nothing exactly not. I don't mind being around 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.519 kids at all. I love kids. I love do we do? Joe, 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.480 you are so good with kids too. You sat right 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.040 down with Ada and played the drums with them, and heck, yeah, 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.799 I love kids. And y'all, we have been quite busy 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:12.280 on some new hurt yes, releasing two new shirts, but 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.560 both are only available for a short time at pod 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.919 Meats world show dot com. First up, yes, you all 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.040 learned recently because of course I've always known this that 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.959 I am, in fact, the best grandpa ever. And with 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.799 my new T shirt you can now spread the word. Yes, 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.360 that is right. We have a shirt that looks exactly 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:31.239 like mine. However, this one reads Will is the best 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.080 Grandpa ever and it is available now. You know you 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:35.560 want to go out there and give me some praise 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.119 because even though I have no children, thankfully we all 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.920 know I am, in fact the best grandpa ever. Uh. 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:45.440 And lastly, Danielle's morbid moment from last week, where she 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.840 basically admitted she fantasizes about the sweet, sweet sleep of 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.280 death now has a shirt, yes, a vintage to Panga, 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.200 aera photo of Danielle on a blue shirt, and it's 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.760 innocently accompanied by her exact quote, imagine with the deep 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:02.400 sleep of death feel like wow, so to Panga, and 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.720 of course our logos on the back. They are available 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:09.280 now only through Black Friday, So don't wait, go help 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:13.000 me actually win the award for best grandpa ever. And 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:14.840 of course let people know that Danielle is having some 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.320 serious issues but that can all probably be solved with 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.680 just a decent night's sleep. So go out and pick 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.520 up these if you know you know shirts at pod 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:26.040 Meats World Show dot com. But until then, get off 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:30.640 my lawn. Yeah, still trying to work on the grandpa thing. Writer. 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:34.680 Speaking of that, do you like somewhat play the drums? Yeah? 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:36.680 Don't you remember he used to play back in the day. 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:41.520 I remember you had a drum while Yeah you didn't 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.159 know that, do you remember don't you remember the shoot 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:46.599 we did that one time where we all had to 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:50.680 be a band. Now do you don't remember? Oh? Yes, 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.760 so there's there's got it's got to be out there 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.359 somewhere because it was either an ABC promo or T 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.200 G I F promo or something. But they brought us 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.040 to a place and we were all a band and 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:05.360 I started on the drums. Danielle, you were playing guitar 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.920 or singing? Writer? You were on guitar. Ben was doing 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.880 just lip syncing. What was the deal? I just remember 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.160 if there was vaguely familiar. I mean I feel like 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.680 I had been in a situation multiple times where it 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.600 was like, yeah, just be a rock band and do that, 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:23.160 and you were doing video? Yeah what was that? And 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.919 then in the meantime and like in between one of 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:29.080 the takes, you jumped on the drums and actually played 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:30.880 something and everyone was like, oh, like you can actually 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.159 play the drums. I have a vague memory of you 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:34.920 having a drum set. Now that we say that, did 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:38.200 it have like silencers on it, like pads on pads, 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.080 pants on it? Yeah? Remember my house and Encino when 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.919 you stick there, there was like a play room like that. 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:45.680 It was like off. The garage was like just a 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:47.680 room for the couches to hang out, and I had 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:49.560 my drum kid in there, and I took lessons from 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:54.320 a really great teacher. Um. Yeah, there was a there 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:58.000 was a lighting designer on our show called named Darryl Pelagius. 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.720 Remember remember dar Daryl was right, and I became really 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:02.440 good friends with him. And Darrow was really big in 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.320 the music scene because he did he lit um a 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.680 lot of musicians. He had done Frank Zappa's shows, and 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:10.920 he had been Tom Waite's lighting designer, and so he 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.560 introduced me Tom Waits, which like changed my life when 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.320 I came up. Yeah, and Darryl like he was the 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:17.320 first person to like talk to me about music and 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:18.960 like when he found out that I was interested in 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.680 music and the drums, he like immediately did research found 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.720 like three amazing drummers who like usually didn't teach classes, 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:26.760 and was like, all three of these guys are good, 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:28.640 and like cooked me up with this amazing drum teacher. 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:30.880 I just didn't stick with it. It's such such a bummer. 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.000 It's like I once took guitar lessons and it hurt 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:38.440 my fingers. I did that with the bass. I wasn't 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.120 good the first day, so I quit the same Yeah, 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:42.840 I wasn't very good and it hurt, and I was 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.080 like not going to commit to this, I know. So 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.200 what I remember what what what's crazy to me to 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.240 think about, is that I started taking drum lessons while 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.400 we were on Boy meat The World that what fourteen 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:56.120 fifteen or whatever, and I remember thinking it's too late. 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.520 I'm never gonna like, I'm never going to be a musician, 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.560 Like in retrospect, like that's when you really learn how 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.520 to be a musician. Is like your you're a teenager, 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.240 and like even you have some musical background or even 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.840 starting fresh at that point, you can still become a 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.880 great musician. But because of our success at Boy Meat's World, 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.680 I think I was already in the mindset like I'm 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.840 too old to like start a new career or like 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.239 do something new, which is the career already, it's already 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.600 a career. Ties I finally realized like, oh I can 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:29.080 start something to do and do it. But it's I 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.000 think it's something that happens when you're a child actor. 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.640 Is like you kind of think like, oh, well, I 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:35.720 have to be great at it. Right out of the gate, 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.200 and it has to happen really early, and if I 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:41.400 don't reach, you know, incredibly high success, then I must 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.040 be bad fail. And it's like, no, you could be 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:47.120 good at something, wait until your thirties to finally succeeded it. 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.680 But in that like, no one you could have explained 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:50.880 that to me at the time. I was like, so 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:52.560 that's why I probably gave up the drums, because I 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:54.320 was just like, well, I could see other people being 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.440 better at my age, and I was like, it's too 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.080 late for me to learn this now. Did I have 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:02.280 regular mut music growing up? In school? Like, we all 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.200 had to pick an instrument, So I played the trumpet 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.120 in the fourth and fifth grade and then I moved 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.760 to like the drum. Did you have regular music classes 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.200 like we did. No, I took piano. My mom signed 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:12.640 me up for piano, but then I got into acting, 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.480 and once I took over acting, I just didn't have time. 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:17.760 But not in school. You didn't do band or choir, 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:19.800 any of that kind of stuff in school. Excited I 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.200 was out of regular school by fourth grade, fifth grade, 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:23.960 which is like when you start really doing I guess 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:26.760 Indians already started a little music stuff at his school. 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:30.400 But I think that's unique. Usually sixth grade you had 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.319 to pick, you know, you had to pick an instrument, 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:33.959 and then you got into the band and then its 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:37.280 first chair, second chairs. Smart to get to open kids 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.079 up to like all the different instruments and be like, 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:40.760 which one do you want to try? And you know 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:42.679 you don't have to commit forever, but see if any 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.599 of these speak to you. I have shout out to Connecticut, 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:52.640 California kids. Yeah, that's play Connecticut instruments exactly. You carved 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:57.520 them out of one piece of the cello. I'm watching 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.719 alone right now, and it's basically just like watching my 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:05.160 col in Cannadica. Welcome to Pond meets World. I'm Daniel Fishal, 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:17.680 I'm Rider Strong, and I'm Wilfred Doe. Our guest today 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:23.319 is a very beloved member of Boy Meets World. Uh. 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.559 His name is Matthew Lawrence. He played Jack Hunter for 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:31.520 sixty nine episodes of Boy Meets World. He was Shawn's 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:36.320 half brother and Eric's college roommate, and his first appearance 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:42.439 was in season five, episode one called Brothers. Let's welcome 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.880 Matthew Lawrence to the pod. Matt are you there? I'm here. 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.760 Can you hear me? We can, we can hear you. Wow, 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.559 look at how beautiful the trees are behind you. Oh thanks, Yeah, 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:57.679 I've been doing a lot of gardening lately. Wow, it's pretty. 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.240 I'd love to take you around. I don't know if 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.920 i'd lose internet, but I got like bananas and papaya's 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.560 and all sorts of stub growing out there this year. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:10.160 Where do you live? Are you in Brazil? You all oaks? Okay, 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:21.280 the Brazil of the valley, Priscilla, the valley. It looks 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.679 like you're on a set. I'm waiting for pick up. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.640 Pick up the back and just move it, move it 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.559 around like it's gonna walk out. All the all the 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.880 green behind you is just gonna leave instantly. Wait, I 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.040 have another question for you. Looking at the at the 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.679 bananas and all of this gardening you've been doing, how 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:40.480 much of this is because you have? How many iguanas? Oh? Yeah, 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:45.120 it's true, Um I have. Well, the twelve babies have 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:50.600 now become huge sow. I got twelve huge green iguanas. 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.800 I got two Cuban iguanas, and uh a bunch of 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.800 other things too. Guys, I got a little zood here 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.760 right now do they get along or do you have 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.040 to keep them separate? Separate, separate males. You can keep 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.960 males together. Okay, So how out of the twelve, how 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:08.640 many of them are males? Well, there's there's uh four, 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:17.439 four males, and so those four have like their own habitats, cages, terrariums, greenhouses, 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:24.080 the whole greenhouse. Do you have four greenhouses? Yeah? Yeah, 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.320 buil Bill, four or four of them. Again, I'd love 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.240 to take you, show you around. You have way more 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:33.960 lizards than me. I think I wear more lizards than 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:37.199 a lot of people. Like, do you sell them or 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:41.760 are they so a lot of them are? I'm working 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.959 with a lot of endangered species, so I don't really 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.319 sell them. I keep them as a part of a 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:50.360 genetic cool uh in case wild populations go down. We 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.839 share animals and share genetics and things like that. She wow, 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.600 that's so cool. I remember now, you haven't always been 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.280 into Iguana's right, Like, No, it wasn't like a childhood love. 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.240 It's something you kind of grew into later in life, 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:07.040 right like a teenager. No, it started actually I was 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:09.439 trying to I was telling the story to somebody the 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.360 other day. Um, it started I was in Um. I 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.440 was on the east coast, east southeast coast, and uh, 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.160 I saw some little green and nolies those a little 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:22.280 green little lizards you run anyway. Um And I remember 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.439 we took a family trip there when I was like 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:29.719 abound six or seven, and uh, I put them in 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:31.600 I caught a male and a female and I put 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.120 them in my pocket, took him on the airplane, brought 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:42.959 him back some years loss cross. So my parents didn't know, 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.520 nobody knew. Security didn't know they were gonna check. Like 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.800 a six year old back in you know, eighties, you 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:53.880 were muling. You were musling eighties. A great, a six 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:58.719 year old iguana mule. That's that's the the news of 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:03.079 the day. Great, yeah, man, Yeah, I'd like to go 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:07.760 home shopping with you. So where okay, great, there's one bedroom, 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:12.040 that's fine. Where am I going to put nine greenhouses? 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:16.000 Can you show me that that property? Please? Yeah? Yeah, 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.240 it's it's always been an issue. It's always been an issue. 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.839 But yeah, you know, I'll say it, guys. If I 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.640 didn't have them, I don't know. I uh, they pretty 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:27.640 much saved my life a couple of times, many times, 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.480 you know, going out there It's like the best decompression 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.160 I've ever It makes me happy. I get that, like 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.079 it's weird. I'm not trying to I'm not trying to 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.719 force this on anybody else, but I get that, Like 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:39.800 you know that like feeling you get when you see 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.240 like puppies or babies or kids. That's the feeling I 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.480 get when I see reptiles amphibians. I can't explain. No, Hey, 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.800 if it works for you. When you said they've saved 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:49.880 your life a couple of times, you're talking spiritually, right, 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.160 because in my head, an army of iguana is coming 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.000 to save you from something. It's pretty like the coolest 0:13:56.320 --> 0:14:00.920 he was joking. And the iguanas. You know, you're you're 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:02.520 in the middle of a bank, somebody comes in and 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.600 rob as. All of a sudden, all these iguanas coming, 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:08.520 Like that's where my head goes, Yes, Matt, iguana army. 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:14.400 So cool. Okay, So Matt, we want to start our 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.719 our interview with you the same way we ask a 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:18.439 lot of the same question we ask a lot of 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.560 child actors. We know you come from a family of actors, 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.800 but when exactly did you start acting? How old were 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.720 you did you happen to be ten. No, it wasna. 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:34.880 He's been working by that point, you know how. You know, 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.240 it was a different situation for me a little bit 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:41.840 because my older brother started Joe, yeah, like and he started, 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.320 so we It's weird how we got into acting because 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.960 we actually started out as a musical family. We were singing, 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.360 dancing and tapping piano lessons. That's what we're doing. We're 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.320 going into Manhattan, you know, doing all that kind of stuff. 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.240 And then we were at this place called the will 0:14:56.320 --> 0:15:00.680 Grove mall uh and Joe was like maybe five or 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.000 six and I was probably two or three. And this 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.120 photographer came out of the little store. Why don't even remember, 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.760 guys when your kids there was like a little photography 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.880 miss yeah, there you go. Okay, so this this lady 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.360 comes out on there. I have vague memories of it, 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.240 and grabbed my mom's please take a picture of Joe 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:25.280 my older brother. Her name was Cathy Ireland. Yea, yes, 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:31.880 Well that picture got Joe a commercial, which got him 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.640 on the Tonight Show. And then from there it just 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.680 went and every time Joe did something, if they needed 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.400 a flashback or if they needed a baby, it was 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.240 me because I looked just enough like them, so and 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.440 then and then I got my own I started my 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:50.240 own career at three with Dynasty Baby on Dynasty. Gosh, 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:53.440 I forgot you were the baby on Dynasty Baby on 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:58.600 Dynasty jeez. So yeah, yeah, it just it just started 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.000 that way, you know. So yeah, it's it's a it's 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:02.680 weird as you know, guys, it's a weird it's a 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.440 weird upbringing. It's an interesting road. You know. You have 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.360 to kind of get every you don't get your your childhood, 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:09.480 so you've got to kind of get it in at 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.400 all different times in your life. So it's all strange 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.360 and all over the place. But I don't know how 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:14.920 you guys feel. I feel like I got it in. 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.880 I just got it in a very different way. You know. 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.360 You're also in a different category than the rest of us, though. 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.720 It's like by the time you knew you were a person, 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:24.920 for lack of a better term, I mean, what you're 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:26.800 seven eight years old when you kind of wake up 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.280 and go like, oh, I'm a human, You've already been 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:33.640 in the business for five years. I mean it's uh now, 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.600 I mean, is that something that when you look back 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.320 on your career in the way you started. Is that 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.480 something that you were happy with or something that if 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:43.000 you if you kind of look back, and you know, 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:44.600 I'm not sure if I could do that over again, 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:46.920 or I was able to take myself out of the industry, 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.240 I would have. You know, that's a that's a tough question. Uh. 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.080 You know, I try not to have regrets. I try 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.120 not to look back because every time I do, it's like, 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:58.240 you got some problems? Yeah, what's the point? Yeah? And 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:01.120 I feel like I I've been so blessed and given 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.880 so many experiences from it. I mean, who knows, I 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:05.720 who knows who every would have gotten out of Philly. 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:09.360 You know, I don't know the world experiences and things 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.280 that I've been open to. Uh, and I've learned I 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.720 would have gotten a chance to experience. So you know, yes, 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.280 there's there's there's something, there's bad, and there's a lot 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.600 of good, you know, with everything. So it's just a 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:21.879 very unique I don't know, I just looked at it 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:26.120 as a very unique, unique upbringing basically. I mean, I'll 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.800 tell you what though. The one great positive was that 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.000 it really me and my two brothers. You know, we 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.400 had that kind of bubble and that installation. So without them, 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.080 I don't know. I don't know, man, I I really 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:41.840 don't know. I don't know what I would have gotten 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:43.760 caught up into. I don't know where I'd be. I 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:45.600 probably wouldn't still have been in the business, you know, 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.080 because at different times in our lives we've taken up 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.800 the slack with like, you know, let's let's stay strong, 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.720 let's keep going forward. You know. Um. I did take 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.399 myself out for the last, um the first couple of 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.080 years when I got here, because I just want to 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.520 go to school. I just I was in kind of 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:03.640 the new school, and I came here as a whole 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.159 new experience with the kids and everything, coming from like 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:10.480 a Quaker school and like rural Pennsylvania. The kids here 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:14.879 were so different. You know that. That was eleven or 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:18.600 twelve after actually went after I did uh this one film, 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:20.360 I was like, Okay, I'm just gonna do a couple 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.399 of years of school because these kids, like I just 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:26.399 couldn't make any friends, you know. Um. And so you 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.679 know that also kind of reinstilled the animal thing too, 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:31.440 you know, the animals became you know, my friends. So 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.200 you know, it's strange, guys, you know, kids look at you. 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:35.720 It's kind of like when you go to school, your 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:39.280 Mickey Mouse, it's hard to make real connections. When kids 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.320 go home and they see on TV maybe their parents 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.800 are talking about you. It's like, yeah, we had we 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.360 had Christine Lincoln on and she was talking a lot 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:50.560 about how Christine and Stacy Keenan both talked about it 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.800 that like being famous at school was like a liability, 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.280 Like it was huge. You didn't want to be. You 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:57.920 didn't want to be at all, and you and you 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:00.160 wanted to talk with people and engage with people all 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.359 so that they knew that you thought and knew that 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.760 you were normal, and yet they wanted to ask questions, 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:08.600 so you wanted to answer those questions so you didn't 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.879 seem like you were avoiding anything. But then the other 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:12.239 side of that is, oh my god, all she does 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.119 is talk about, you know, her acting career. And so 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.639 it is a very fine line to walk between wanting 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:19.880 to answer your questions and wanting to be your friend 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.119 and not wanting to seem standoffish. And there is it's 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.000 it's a lot of it's a lot of pressure, and 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:27.320 especially at eleven or twelve and having just moved from 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.320 Philly where you literally don't know anybody. That's a really 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:33.480 hard adjustment. Well, as much as everybody wants to be popular, 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.840 no eleven or twelve year old wants everybody staring at 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:41.800 them in school. No, you don't want that. It's so Yeah, 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:43.760 anything that makes you different is bad. I've always said 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:45.280 when you're a kid, which is even if it's a 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:47.760 great thing, I know it is, you know. You know 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.480 what's funny is that you you see that too. Like 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:53.200 the kids that are different, they tend to get bullied 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:55.120 in school, but then later on in life they tend 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:57.119 to go and change the world kind of thing. You know. 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.960 It's like, it's like because I think had that solitude 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.239 where they had to like really go inside themselves at 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:06.200 a young age and figure things out. It's a lot, 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:08.879 you know, it's it's not it's it's a lot to 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.440 go through. But before we jump into your time on 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:15.800 Boy Meets World, what was your favorite project or character 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:19.400 a role you did before Boy Meets World? What were 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.640 you most proud of before you got to Boy Meets World. 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.960 That one would have to be missing outfire. Yeah, let's 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:31.359 talk about it. Such a monumental um experience, not because 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.680 the film was necessarily a hit or anything like that. 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:36.680 It's just the people involved, I mean, and the timing 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:40.800 in my life too, because I love Iguana's basically, you know, 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:44.320 I I love dinosaurs, like dinosaur sheets and all this stuff. 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:47.600 And the cinematographer and the crew had just come off 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:52.200 a Jurassic Park and I have known, yeah, I'd known 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.040