1 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: I think it's well known by this point that, Um, 2 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm not hugely a fan of children. They're wonderful little 3 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: little things that can follow you around and a loud 4 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: and carry disease, but not at your house. The other 5 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: day and I was I came back and I told 6 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: Sue the story about ad They're coming out and transforming 7 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: into the Hulk. Yeah, but halfway through transforming into the Hulk, 8 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: trying to pull up the bottom of his pants and 9 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: pull up his sleeves so that it looked like he 10 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: was ripping out of his Hulk clothes. But he couldn't 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: get it, so he broke character in the middle and 12 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: You're like, do you need help? He's like, yeah, I 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: need helps and over paused. He paused the performance. You 14 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: wocked over. You tucked up both his little little shorts, 15 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: little pants, and then the little sleeves, and he instantly 16 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: jumped back in ter and he came back in and 17 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: it was one of the cutest things I've seen in 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: a very long time. I was immediately one of the transition. 19 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: And then he was like trying to pull the pants 20 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: back down to normal, and he was getting frustrated with that. 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: You know, I love so funny got his commitment, like 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: I love. He kept looking at his hands like yeah, 23 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: it was like the realization of the transformation is happening, 24 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: but the breaking character in the middle to be like 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: help mommy, and he was perfect. It really was pretty awesome. 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, he's pretty great. He's he's really performative. Whenever 27 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: writer talks about Indie and his performative nature, I'm like, yeah, 28 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: we have one of those two. Like he's definitely he really, 29 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: I mean, and you guys saw him at his worst too. 30 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: He woke up from his nap. It wasn't a very 31 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: good nap. He's not feeling well. He like hid for 32 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: basically what forty five minutes from you guys didn't want 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: to cry if I left the couch and then went 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: into the other room, got into a better mood, and 35 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: then came out. And you guys just saw him at 36 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: one of his best. It's like, it's just so literally 37 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: just described an actor. I cried on a couch forty 38 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: five minutes. Dad, person, who's going to help me fix 39 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: these clothes? I walked away, I got centered, I found myself. 40 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: I came back out and I performed just what we're saying. Oh, 41 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: my gosh, this is this is hitting very close to home. 42 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, thank you for sharing that, Will, 43 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: because I did. I did worry that at some point 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: you were going to be like, I don't know, burning 45 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: from the inside. Many children anything, it's being around them, 46 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: and they're very funny and I get to see moments 47 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: like that. It makes me love when I come home 48 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 1: and they're nothing exactly not. I don't mind being around 49 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: kids at all. I love kids. I love do we do? Joe, 50 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: you are so good with kids too. You sat right 51 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: down with Ada and played the drums with them, and heck, yeah, 52 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: I love kids. And y'all, we have been quite busy 53 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: on some new hurt yes, releasing two new shirts, but 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: both are only available for a short time at pod 55 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: Meats world show dot com. First up, yes, you all 56 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: learned recently because of course I've always known this that 57 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: I am, in fact, the best grandpa ever. And with 58 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: my new T shirt you can now spread the word. Yes, 59 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: that is right. We have a shirt that looks exactly 60 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: like mine. However, this one reads Will is the best 61 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: Grandpa ever and it is available now. You know you 62 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: want to go out there and give me some praise 63 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: because even though I have no children, thankfully we all 64 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: know I am, in fact the best grandpa ever. Uh. 65 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: And lastly, Danielle's morbid moment from last week, where she 66 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: basically admitted she fantasizes about the sweet, sweet sleep of 67 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: death now has a shirt, yes, a vintage to Panga, 68 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: aera photo of Danielle on a blue shirt, and it's 69 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: innocently accompanied by her exact quote, imagine with the deep 70 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: sleep of death feel like wow, so to Panga, and 71 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: of course our logos on the back. They are available 72 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: now only through Black Friday, So don't wait, go help 73 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: me actually win the award for best grandpa ever. And 74 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: of course let people know that Danielle is having some 75 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: serious issues but that can all probably be solved with 76 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: just a decent night's sleep. So go out and pick 77 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: up these if you know you know shirts at pod 78 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: Meats World Show dot com. But until then, get off 79 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: my lawn. Yeah, still trying to work on the grandpa thing. Writer. 80 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: Speaking of that, do you like somewhat play the drums? Yeah? 81 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: Don't you remember he used to play back in the day. 82 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: I remember you had a drum while Yeah you didn't 83 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: know that, do you remember don't you remember the shoot 84 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: we did that one time where we all had to 85 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: be a band. Now do you don't remember? Oh? Yes, 86 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: so there's there's got it's got to be out there 87 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: somewhere because it was either an ABC promo or T 88 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: G I F promo or something. But they brought us 89 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: to a place and we were all a band and 90 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: I started on the drums. Danielle, you were playing guitar 91 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: or singing? Writer? You were on guitar. Ben was doing 92 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: just lip syncing. What was the deal? I just remember 93 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: if there was vaguely familiar. I mean I feel like 94 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: I had been in a situation multiple times where it 95 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, just be a rock band and do that, 96 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: and you were doing video? Yeah what was that? And 97 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: then in the meantime and like in between one of 98 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: the takes, you jumped on the drums and actually played 99 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: something and everyone was like, oh, like you can actually 100 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: play the drums. I have a vague memory of you 101 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: having a drum set. Now that we say that, did 102 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: it have like silencers on it, like pads on pads, 103 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: pants on it? Yeah? Remember my house and Encino when 104 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: you stick there, there was like a play room like that. 105 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: It was like off. The garage was like just a 106 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: room for the couches to hang out, and I had 107 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: my drum kid in there, and I took lessons from 108 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: a really great teacher. Um. Yeah, there was a there 109 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: was a lighting designer on our show called named Darryl Pelagius. 110 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: Remember remember dar Daryl was right, and I became really 111 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: good friends with him. And Darrow was really big in 112 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: the music scene because he did he lit um a 113 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: lot of musicians. He had done Frank Zappa's shows, and 114 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: he had been Tom Waite's lighting designer, and so he 115 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: introduced me Tom Waits, which like changed my life when 116 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: I came up. Yeah, and Darryl like he was the 117 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: first person to like talk to me about music and 118 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: like when he found out that I was interested in 119 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: music and the drums, he like immediately did research found 120 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: like three amazing drummers who like usually didn't teach classes, 121 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: and was like, all three of these guys are good, 122 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: and like cooked me up with this amazing drum teacher. 123 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: I just didn't stick with it. It's such such a bummer. 124 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: It's like I once took guitar lessons and it hurt 125 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: my fingers. I did that with the bass. I wasn't 126 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: good the first day, so I quit the same Yeah, 127 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't very good and it hurt, and I was 128 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: like not going to commit to this, I know. So 129 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: what I remember what what what's crazy to me to 130 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: think about, is that I started taking drum lessons while 131 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: we were on Boy meat The World that what fourteen 132 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: fifteen or whatever, and I remember thinking it's too late. 133 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna like, I'm never going to be a musician, 134 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: Like in retrospect, like that's when you really learn how 135 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: to be a musician. Is like your you're a teenager, 136 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: and like even you have some musical background or even 137 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: starting fresh at that point, you can still become a 138 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: great musician. But because of our success at Boy Meat's World, 139 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: I think I was already in the mindset like I'm 140 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: too old to like start a new career or like 141 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 1: do something new, which is the career already, it's already 142 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: a career. Ties I finally realized like, oh I can 143 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: start something to do and do it. But it's I 144 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: think it's something that happens when you're a child actor. 145 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: Is like you kind of think like, oh, well, I 146 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: have to be great at it. Right out of the gate, 147 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: and it has to happen really early, and if I 148 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: don't reach, you know, incredibly high success, then I must 149 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: be bad fail. And it's like, no, you could be 150 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: good at something, wait until your thirties to finally succeeded it. 151 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: But in that like, no one you could have explained 152 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: that to me at the time. I was like, so 153 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: that's why I probably gave up the drums, because I 154 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: was just like, well, I could see other people being 155 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: better at my age, and I was like, it's too 156 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: late for me to learn this now. Did I have 157 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: regular mut music growing up? In school? Like, we all 158 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: had to pick an instrument, So I played the trumpet 159 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: in the fourth and fifth grade and then I moved 160 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: to like the drum. Did you have regular music classes 161 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: like we did. No, I took piano. My mom signed 162 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: me up for piano, but then I got into acting, 163 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: and once I took over acting, I just didn't have time. 164 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: But not in school. You didn't do band or choir, 165 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: any of that kind of stuff in school. Excited I 166 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: was out of regular school by fourth grade, fifth grade, 167 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: which is like when you start really doing I guess 168 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: Indians already started a little music stuff at his school. 169 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: But I think that's unique. Usually sixth grade you had 170 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: to pick, you know, you had to pick an instrument, 171 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: and then you got into the band and then its 172 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: first chair, second chairs. Smart to get to open kids 173 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: up to like all the different instruments and be like, 174 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: which one do you want to try? And you know 175 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: you don't have to commit forever, but see if any 176 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 1: of these speak to you. I have shout out to Connecticut, 177 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: California kids. Yeah, that's play Connecticut instruments exactly. You carved 178 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: them out of one piece of the cello. I'm watching 179 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 1: alone right now, and it's basically just like watching my 180 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: col in Cannadica. Welcome to Pond meets World. I'm Daniel Fishal, 181 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm Rider Strong, and I'm Wilfred Doe. Our guest today 182 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: is a very beloved member of Boy Meets World. Uh. 183 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: His name is Matthew Lawrence. He played Jack Hunter for 184 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: sixty nine episodes of Boy Meets World. He was Shawn's 185 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: half brother and Eric's college roommate, and his first appearance 186 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: was in season five, episode one called Brothers. Let's welcome 187 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: Matthew Lawrence to the pod. Matt are you there? I'm here. 188 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: Can you hear me? We can, we can hear you. Wow, 189 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: look at how beautiful the trees are behind you. Oh thanks, Yeah, 190 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of gardening lately. Wow, it's pretty. 191 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: I'd love to take you around. I don't know if 192 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: i'd lose internet, but I got like bananas and papaya's 193 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: and all sorts of stub growing out there this year. 194 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: Where do you live? Are you in Brazil? You all oaks? Okay, 195 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: the Brazil of the valley, Priscilla, the valley. It looks 196 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: like you're on a set. I'm waiting for pick up. 197 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: Pick up the back and just move it, move it 198 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: around like it's gonna walk out. All the all the 199 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: green behind you is just gonna leave instantly. Wait, I 200 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: have another question for you. Looking at the at the 201 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: bananas and all of this gardening you've been doing, how 202 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: much of this is because you have? How many iguanas? Oh? Yeah, 203 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: it's true, Um I have. Well, the twelve babies have 204 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: now become huge sow. I got twelve huge green iguanas. 205 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: I got two Cuban iguanas, and uh a bunch of 206 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: other things too. Guys, I got a little zood here 207 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: right now do they get along or do you have 208 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: to keep them separate? Separate, separate males. You can keep 209 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: males together. Okay, So how out of the twelve, how 210 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: many of them are males? Well, there's there's uh four, 211 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: four males, and so those four have like their own habitats, cages, terrariums, greenhouses, 212 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: the whole greenhouse. Do you have four greenhouses? Yeah? Yeah, 213 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: buil Bill, four or four of them. Again, I'd love 214 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: to take you, show you around. You have way more 215 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: lizards than me. I think I wear more lizards than 216 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: a lot of people. Like, do you sell them or 217 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: are they so a lot of them are? I'm working 218 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: with a lot of endangered species, so I don't really 219 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: sell them. I keep them as a part of a 220 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: genetic cool uh in case wild populations go down. We 221 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: share animals and share genetics and things like that. She wow, 222 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: that's so cool. I remember now, you haven't always been 223 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: into Iguana's right, Like, No, it wasn't like a childhood love. 224 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: It's something you kind of grew into later in life, 225 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: right like a teenager. No, it started actually I was 226 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: trying to I was telling the story to somebody the 227 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: other day. Um, it started I was in Um. I 228 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: was on the east coast, east southeast coast, and uh, 229 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: I saw some little green and nolies those a little 230 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: green little lizards you run anyway. Um And I remember 231 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: we took a family trip there when I was like 232 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: abound six or seven, and uh, I put them in 233 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: I caught a male and a female and I put 234 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: them in my pocket, took him on the airplane, brought 235 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: him back some years loss cross. So my parents didn't know, 236 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: nobody knew. Security didn't know they were gonna check. Like 237 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: a six year old back in you know, eighties, you 238 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: were muling. You were musling eighties. A great, a six 239 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: year old iguana mule. That's that's the the news of 240 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: the day. Great, yeah, man, Yeah, I'd like to go 241 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: home shopping with you. So where okay, great, there's one bedroom, 242 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: that's fine. Where am I going to put nine greenhouses? 243 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: Can you show me that that property? Please? Yeah? Yeah, 244 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: it's it's always been an issue. It's always been an issue. 245 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, I'll say it, guys. If I 246 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: didn't have them, I don't know. I uh, they pretty 247 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: much saved my life a couple of times, many times, 248 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, going out there It's like the best decompression 249 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: I've ever It makes me happy. I get that, like 250 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: it's weird. I'm not trying to I'm not trying to 251 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: force this on anybody else, but I get that, Like 252 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: you know that like feeling you get when you see 253 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: like puppies or babies or kids. That's the feeling I 254 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: get when I see reptiles amphibians. I can't explain. No, Hey, 255 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: if it works for you. When you said they've saved 256 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: your life a couple of times, you're talking spiritually, right, 257 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: because in my head, an army of iguana is coming 258 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: to save you from something. It's pretty like the coolest 259 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: he was joking. And the iguanas. You know, you're you're 260 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: in the middle of a bank, somebody comes in and 261 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: rob as. All of a sudden, all these iguanas coming, 262 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: Like that's where my head goes, Yes, Matt, iguana army. 263 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: So cool. Okay, So Matt, we want to start our 264 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: our interview with you the same way we ask a 265 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: lot of the same question we ask a lot of 266 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: child actors. We know you come from a family of actors, 267 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: but when exactly did you start acting? How old were 268 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: you did you happen to be ten. No, it wasna. 269 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: He's been working by that point, you know how. You know, 270 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: it was a different situation for me a little bit 271 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: because my older brother started Joe, yeah, like and he started, 272 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: so we It's weird how we got into acting because 273 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: we actually started out as a musical family. We were singing, 274 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: dancing and tapping piano lessons. That's what we're doing. We're 275 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: going into Manhattan, you know, doing all that kind of stuff. 276 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: And then we were at this place called the will 277 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: Grove mall uh and Joe was like maybe five or 278 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: six and I was probably two or three. And this 279 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: photographer came out of the little store. Why don't even remember, 280 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: guys when your kids there was like a little photography 281 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: miss yeah, there you go. Okay, so this this lady 282 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: comes out on there. I have vague memories of it, 283 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: and grabbed my mom's please take a picture of Joe 284 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: my older brother. Her name was Cathy Ireland. Yea, yes, 285 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: Well that picture got Joe a commercial, which got him 286 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: on the Tonight Show. And then from there it just 287 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: went and every time Joe did something, if they needed 288 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: a flashback or if they needed a baby, it was 289 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: me because I looked just enough like them, so and 290 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: then and then I got my own I started my 291 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: own career at three with Dynasty Baby on Dynasty. Gosh, 292 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: I forgot you were the baby on Dynasty Baby on 293 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: Dynasty jeez. So yeah, yeah, it just it just started 294 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: that way, you know. So yeah, it's it's a it's 295 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: weird as you know, guys, it's a weird it's a 296 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: weird upbringing. It's an interesting road. You know. You have 297 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: to kind of get every you don't get your your childhood, 298 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: so you've got to kind of get it in at 299 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: all different times in your life. So it's all strange 300 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: and all over the place. But I don't know how 301 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: you guys feel. I feel like I got it in. 302 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: I just got it in a very different way. You know. 303 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: You're also in a different category than the rest of us, though. 304 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: It's like by the time you knew you were a person, 305 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, I mean, what you're 306 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: seven eight years old when you kind of wake up 307 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: and go like, oh, I'm a human, You've already been 308 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: in the business for five years. I mean it's uh now, 309 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean, is that something that when you look back 310 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: on your career in the way you started. Is that 311 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: something that you were happy with or something that if 312 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: you if you kind of look back, and you know, 313 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I could do that over again, 314 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: or I was able to take myself out of the industry, 315 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: I would have. You know, that's a that's a tough question. Uh. 316 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: You know, I try not to have regrets. I try 317 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: not to look back because every time I do, it's like, 318 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: you got some problems? Yeah, what's the point? Yeah? And 319 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I I've been so blessed and given 320 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: so many experiences from it. I mean, who knows, I 321 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: who knows who every would have gotten out of Philly. 322 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know the world experiences and things 323 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: that I've been open to. Uh, and I've learned I 324 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: would have gotten a chance to experience. So you know, yes, 325 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: there's there's there's something, there's bad, and there's a lot 326 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: of good, you know, with everything. So it's just a 327 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: very unique I don't know, I just looked at it 328 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: as a very unique, unique upbringing basically. I mean, I'll 329 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: tell you what though. The one great positive was that 330 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: it really me and my two brothers. You know, we 331 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: had that kind of bubble and that installation. So without them, 332 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, man, I I really 333 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what I would have gotten 334 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: caught up into. I don't know where I'd be. I 335 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't still have been in the business, you know, 336 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: because at different times in our lives we've taken up 337 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: the slack with like, you know, let's let's stay strong, 338 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: let's keep going forward. You know. Um. I did take 339 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: myself out for the last, um the first couple of 340 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: years when I got here, because I just want to 341 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: go to school. I just I was in kind of 342 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: the new school, and I came here as a whole 343 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: new experience with the kids and everything, coming from like 344 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: a Quaker school and like rural Pennsylvania. The kids here 345 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: were so different. You know that. That was eleven or 346 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: twelve after actually went after I did uh this one film, 347 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm just gonna do a couple 348 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: of years of school because these kids, like I just 349 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: couldn't make any friends, you know. Um. And so you 350 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: know that also kind of reinstilled the animal thing too, 351 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, the animals became you know, my friends. So 352 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's strange, guys, you know, kids look at you. 353 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: It's kind of like when you go to school, your 354 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse, it's hard to make real connections. When kids 355 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: go home and they see on TV maybe their parents 356 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: are talking about you. It's like, yeah, we had we 357 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: had Christine Lincoln on and she was talking a lot 358 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: about how Christine and Stacy Keenan both talked about it 359 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: that like being famous at school was like a liability, 360 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: Like it was huge. You didn't want to be. You 361 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: didn't want to be at all, and you and you 362 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: wanted to talk with people and engage with people all 363 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: so that they knew that you thought and knew that 364 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: you were normal, and yet they wanted to ask questions, 365 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: so you wanted to answer those questions so you didn't 366 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: seem like you were avoiding anything. But then the other 367 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 1: side of that is, oh my god, all she does 368 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: is talk about, you know, her acting career. And so 369 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: it is a very fine line to walk between wanting 370 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: to answer your questions and wanting to be your friend 371 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: and not wanting to seem standoffish. And there is it's 372 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: it's a lot of it's a lot of pressure, and 373 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: especially at eleven or twelve and having just moved from 374 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: Philly where you literally don't know anybody. That's a really 375 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: hard adjustment. Well, as much as everybody wants to be popular, 376 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: no eleven or twelve year old wants everybody staring at 377 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: them in school. No, you don't want that. It's so Yeah, 378 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: anything that makes you different is bad. I've always said 379 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: when you're a kid, which is even if it's a 380 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: great thing, I know it is, you know. You know 381 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: what's funny is that you you see that too. Like 382 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: the kids that are different, they tend to get bullied 383 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: in school, but then later on in life they tend 384 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: to go and change the world kind of thing. You know. 385 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: It's like, it's like because I think had that solitude 386 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,239 Speaker 1: where they had to like really go inside themselves at 387 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: a young age and figure things out. It's a lot, 388 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not it's it's a lot to 389 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: go through. But before we jump into your time on 390 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: Boy Meets World, what was your favorite project or character 391 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: a role you did before Boy Meets World? What were 392 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: you most proud of before you got to Boy Meets World. 393 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: That one would have to be missing outfire. Yeah, let's 394 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: talk about it. Such a monumental um experience, not because 395 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: the film was necessarily a hit or anything like that. 396 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: It's just the people involved, I mean, and the timing 397 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: in my life too, because I love Iguana's basically, you know, 398 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: I I love dinosaurs, like dinosaur sheets and all this stuff. 399 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: And the cinematographer and the crew had just come off 400 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: a Jurassic Park and I have known, yeah, I'd known 401 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: about this, and of course because we had such an amazing, 402 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: amazing cast and crew, you know, Steven Spielberg would come 403 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: down and he talked to me about your asked Park 404 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: and they that I got to go to the premiere 405 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: with them, and like that Actually was really stuck in 406 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: my head because I didn't even know what I was 407 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: getting into, and I just I think I was on 408 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: my feet for most of the time in the theater 409 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: when I'm moving planned. I couldn't even stay in my seat. 410 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: It was the greatest experience. And then of course Sally Field, 411 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: Robin Williams, a Peris Bros. And I mean they were 412 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: all looking back, they were all so incredible. I mean, 413 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: Robin never he never treated me like the little kid 414 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: I was. I was an equal, I was another human being, 415 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: you know. Um. Yeah, he stayed in my life for 416 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 1: you know after that film man, they all did Sally. 417 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: It's one of those once once in a lifetime I 418 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: think experiences. Um, yeah, that one would be the one 419 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: that's incredible. Man, That's exactly what I wanted to hear too. 420 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you ask people about their favorite experience 421 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: and it's and and then you're worried, like, oh gosh, 422 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: what if there's a bad story. I don't want to here. 423 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: And then you hear something like that and you're like, 424 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: that's exactly what you want to hear. From being on 425 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: the set of Mrs Dowfire, you know, that one was 426 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: a dream. Guys, that was a real dream. So how 427 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: did you hear about the role of Jack Hunter on 428 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: Boy Meets World? And did you have to audition? Okay? So, um, 429 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: this is how it came down. I was doing a 430 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: show with my brothers called Brotherly Love. We got caught up. 431 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: We were doing reasonably well, but we got caught up 432 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: in a weird uh sale between We got grouped into 433 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: a sale of like three or four shows from one 434 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: network to another, and we didn't really like that, And 435 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: then we didn't like where we were placed. So the 436 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: relationship between our show and the New Network did not 437 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: go very well, and so it we kind of pulled 438 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: the plaw U. And right after that, I think Michael Jacobs, 439 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: the uh, you know, the creator of Boy Mean Squirrel, 440 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: I think he realized that our show was being pulled 441 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: and that I was kind of a you know, yeah, 442 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: so I think he I think he called my mom, 443 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: like directly, because I remember this was in that period 444 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: to where I was like, you know, I might take 445 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: another break. I might just go I might want to 446 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: finished the last couple of years of high school. You know, 447 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: I really wanted to play basketball really bad, and I 448 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: was like, I might just do that. Uh. And then 449 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: my mom was like, look, you gotta go and sit 450 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: down with me and Michael for lunch. And I was like, 451 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, I really want to 452 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: play basketball, and she was like, please give it. You can? 453 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: I also can? I ask and explained everybody, your mom 454 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: is actually also your manager, right, yes, okay, at the 455 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: time he was my my my manager. Yes, So him 456 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: calling your mom wasn't just like you're gonna call and 457 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: then your mom telling you to go have lunch wasn't 458 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: just like a mom thing. She was working. That's true. 459 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: That is true. She was working, she was working as 460 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: my manager. Yes, so so he called her. So we 461 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: went to lunch and uh man, he wouldn't let me 462 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: say no. He just he just like he just worked 463 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: you until you said yes. I kept I kept playing 464 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: Devil's advocate, throwing things down, and he just he was Matt. 465 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: You know, he talks like made no, not Maddie I 466 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: walked out or going, I guess I'm doing that. I 467 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: guess I got railroaded into a TV show. Say what 468 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: you want about Michael Jacobs, but he certainly does not 469 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: take no for an answer, So you know what, I'm 470 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: glad that he did that, though, guys, because again, you know, 471 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: second up there probably behind you know, miss Steffires working 472 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: with you all, and that experience that was that was 473 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: that was pretty awesome. So I'm really glad. I want 474 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: to know two things. One, it was part of his 475 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: negotiation with you that you could play basketball with the 476 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: Home Improvement Boys. Never came up. Real missed opportunity, real 477 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: real missed opportunity. I have a question, So, Danielle writer, 478 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: I have a question for you, because I know my answer. 479 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: Did you did any of you know that Matt was 480 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: coming on the show before we kind of started, because 481 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about it and we just got 482 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: there and it's like and Matt Lawrences on the show. 483 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, no, I don't think I knew either, wow, 484 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: And they yeah, And it was it was like like 485 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: I think table read day, like literally it was season 486 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, you have a brother, And 487 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: I was like, didn't I already have because We've already 488 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: done an episode with like Eddie or whatever, right, And 489 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, I've got another half brother. Okay, cool. Yeah. 490 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: I think it was a total I think it was 491 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: a total last minute decision, because you know, because I 492 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: think they really Yeah. I mean, I don't know what 493 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: was going on with your other show, Matt, but I 494 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: bet you it was probably within like weeks, you know 495 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like you, I bet you, Michael found 496 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: out you were free, grabbed you, and then like completely 497 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: wrote you into the show, like yeah, because we'll think 498 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: about it, man, Because think about it. You and I 499 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: barely ever worked together even though we were brothers, do 500 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like they very quickly, they 501 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: very quickly realized that the better dynamic was you and Will, 502 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: like because you and me would be we were two 503 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: straight men, you know, we were like neither one of 504 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: us were going to be like the goofy, funny guy. 505 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: We needed somebody to be bounced, and so it just 506 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: didn't work. Even though so they had established a whole 507 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: storyline with us as brothers. It was like besides Chet dying, 508 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: where we got to work together and be dramatic like 509 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: like that was it? Like we never saw it. It 510 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: was the odd couple if both of them were Felix 511 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: and it's like that doesn't that doesn't work. I think 512 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: I think they just I think Michael was just like, oh, 513 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: let's plug him Will, make him Shawn's brother. That kind 514 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: of makes sense. And then they quickly realized like, no, 515 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: this dynamic isn't as good as like you and Will. 516 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: You know obviously it just I just Devil's advocate. I 517 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if the pairing with Will was always intended, like, man, 518 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: we really had a missed opportunity of having two older 519 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: brothers that could then live together, because then once it 520 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: got to a place where Will was living on his own, 521 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: it was like what if writer has an older brother 522 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: that's in Will's age? And then they can be partners 523 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: the same way Corey and Shaun are partners. That makes sense, 524 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: that's maybe, But I just feel like it never, like 525 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: literally never even got referenced that we were brothers after 526 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: a certain yeah you yes, it's like occasionally yeah, like 527 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: but when the chat episodes like that was basically it 528 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: and like, but then otherwise, like when we're in college 529 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: and we're talking about moving to New York, we're talking 530 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: all the things that like come up, it's never like 531 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: reference that we're brothers. It's so far it's such a 532 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: just a forgotten thing. Um, okay, so we didn't know 533 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: you were coming on the show, That's what it came down. Yeah, 534 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: you came in in season five, and similarly to the 535 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: way we talked about having moved from Pennsylvania at eleven 536 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,239 Speaker 1: or twelve, starting a new school, not knowing anybody, how 537 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: intimidating that can be. What did you were you feeling 538 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: very similarly coming into a well established show in season five? 539 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,239 Speaker 1: Where were you nervous? What were your thoughts? What were 540 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: your first impressions of us? Tell us your your first experiences? Um, well, 541 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: a lot of it makes sense now knowing that you 542 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: guys had no prep on me being there, which is crazy, 543 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: but I mean I felt a bit awkward. Uh, definitely. Um, 544 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: I was definitely nervous. Yeah, coming in. I mean, you know, 545 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, when you guys get into a flow of things, 546 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: it's like it's like you're in a chief state. And 547 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: then I'm coming in. You know, it was ross. It 548 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: was really ross. You know. I remember the first run through. 549 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think there was like hundred 550 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: and thirty notes and hundred twenty seven of them on mine. 551 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: I know that feeling I'll never forget, like walking out 552 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: of there feeling just I was humilan. I was. I 553 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: felt humiliated. I felt like, wow, I really I came 554 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: on here and I really blew it, Like I I 555 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: didn't maybe enough homework, I didn't watch episode I was, 556 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 1: I was. I was really upset with my performance. Um. 557 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: But then I started to realize that, you know, look, 558 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: there's no way it's gonna take me at least to 559 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: at least a month to even get close to where 560 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: you guys were. So I was like, all right, let's 561 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: just give it, you know, give it a few more, 562 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: give it a few more, and then somewhere around like 563 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth episode, I feel like I started 564 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: to finally find my feet with you guys. But no, 565 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys were great, now that I understand, Like, 566 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: of course this would have been a little awkward for 567 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: you guys as well, Like I'm sure they're all like, 568 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: what is this new dynamic? So I but there was 569 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: no there was no ill will at all. I mean, 570 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: you guys were all, you know, very welcoming and you know, 571 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: all very nice. There was never anything like that. It 572 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: was just a little bit awkward. I feel like I 573 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, like the new kid at school, you know, 574 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: same thing. You and I got really well right off 575 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: the bat because we were like thrown together. So true. Well, 576 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: I also think will like you really wanted to be there, 577 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: Like I feel like this was this was the error 578 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 1: when I was sort of like I want to get 579 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: off the stupid TV show making movies and you know, 580 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: like because that would have been fifth season, right, It's 581 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: like I feel like that would have been like right 582 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: when I was turning sixteen, I was definitely like I'm 583 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: better than this or I'm cooler than this show, or 584 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: I want to do I just wanted to be somewhere different. 585 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: I just felt stuck. You know, I felt trapped, which 586 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: is you know, I think just the plight of being 587 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: a teenager in a situation that's felt out of my control, 588 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, like I couldn't. I couldn't. I felt like 589 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to I couldn't live my real life. And 590 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: I don't even know what that would have been, sure, 591 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, like definitely that was the error when I 592 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: was like I feel I felt trapped um and wanted 593 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: to be off the show. Well, you also met you again, 594 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: if memory serves you, you all met and worked with 595 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: Matt before I did because I had to go to 596 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 1: Disney put me on another movie. So I was shooting 597 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: my date with the President's daughter, and I missed the 598 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: first two episodes of the show, and then I came 599 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: back and reshot the stuff with me. At had worked 600 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: with him already for two weeks, and then I came 601 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: in and it was like, he's going to be your roommate. 602 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: Here you go your friends again. And then we were 603 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: just shooting random scenes out of order for episodes that 604 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: had already been shot. So it was even doubly kind 605 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: of weird. No wonder you didn't feel like you were 606 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: in a good flow it was. It was it was 607 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: a brand new director that season. For whatever reason, that 608 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: was the season that Alan Meyers, and we had never 609 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: had him before, so it was like it was like 610 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: it was it was for whatever reason. Fifth season was 611 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: a complete shake up of our show. And I think 612 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: like whenever when we started, we were all kind of off, 613 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: like it didn't feel it did not feel like the 614 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: comfortable same environment it had been up until that point. Yeah, 615 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: which is which are strange. But then they you know, 616 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: they threw us together and that dynamic obviously worked because 617 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: after that first year. Was it after that first season 618 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: that we did h double Hockey Sticks? Yeah? Yeah, So 619 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: I mean they were instantly like, oh, you're now you're 620 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: a comedy team. You're going to go do a movie together. 621 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: It was okay, And the next thing, you know, where 622 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,239 Speaker 1: you and I are looking at each other like, oh, 623 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: we're in vanco Her now okay. So it was weird 624 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: that that's what Disney like, did you do more than 625 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: one movie? Did you do two movies? We just did 626 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: the one? Okay, yeah, we just did. But but it 627 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,239 Speaker 1: was that thing where that's what Disney did is they 628 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: always tried to pair people up or see this is 629 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: this dynamic is gonna work? Or they did it with 630 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: musical acts, or it's like Nobody's Angels a perfect example 631 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: where that was obviously some band that was trying to 632 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: Disney was trying to launch, so it was like, we're 633 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: gonna put you on a show, um, and then you 634 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: find them at a truck stuff. So yeah, very strange 635 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: all the way around. I for one, just remember thinking 636 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: it was very exciting to have a new really cute 637 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: guy on set. Daniel was with the rest of us. 638 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: Someone else have a crush on. Yeah, it's finally crush on. Right. 639 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: That wasn't gonna you know, Eric was too old, but fine, 640 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: let's open up the teen magazine and yes, open up 641 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: a bop and throw a dart. One of them goes 642 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: to be on our show. Yes, And then my mom 643 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: and your mom became really good friends. And then I'm 644 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: not trying to embarrass you, but I mentioned it on 645 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: a previous episode that you and I then did end 646 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: up dating while we were on Boy Meat's World and 647 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: I went to your prom with you. That was amazing. 648 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: Thank you. It wasn't a charity, thank you, Yeah, it was. 649 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: It was make a wish. It was make a wish 650 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: from a wish Lawrence Man. So I don't want to 651 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: delve too much into it, but you both kept it 652 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: kind of a known secret. I mean, it was a secret. 653 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: We kind of figured something was going on, but it 654 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: was pretty much you You kept it under wrapped. When 655 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: exactly did you guys kind of start dating. Was it 656 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: that first year? Was it the second year? That's a 657 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: good question. It was the second year, I think, yeah, 658 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: I think it was season six, but maybe it was 659 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: season five. I have a terrible memory, infamously terrible memory. 660 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: If Matt, if I think, I had no clue, I 661 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: think it was the second It had to have been 662 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: the second season. Yeah, I think it had to have 663 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: been season six, because because I know that there was 664 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: a period of time before here. This is here's how 665 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm rationalizing it. There was a period of time before 666 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: we started dating where we were just friends and our 667 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: moms were friends and we hung out, but there was 668 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: always like a little bit of like do we do 669 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: we like each other? But also this is work, it 670 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: feels weird, like maybe it's inappropriate. And then season six, 671 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: so I think between season five and season six, that 672 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: summer we started spending more time together, and then that's 673 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: when we started dating. So when season six started, we 674 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: were dating already, which is probably why you never really 675 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: officially knew writer and it was it was a conscious decision. No, 676 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: I don't think so we were really good at hiding 677 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: it now. But I think I was also at that 678 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: point going to call it. Like I started going to 679 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: sixth season, I would have started going to college, so 680 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: I was. I was never on set before noon. Remember 681 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: they worked out my schedule, so I was only there 682 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: from like twelve, so I was kind of checked out. 683 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: I mean, like, we had a good time with you guys, 684 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: but I did not, like I was not as enmeshed 685 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: in the atmosphere of the show for this last two years. 686 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: Matt slipped and told me one day, really, yeah, one day, 687 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: like you were just you said something were It's like no, 688 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: and then we're just but you know, with hanging out 689 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: with Danielle, and I was like, wait, what like nothing, nothing, no, 690 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,479 Speaker 1: one don't look over here. We weren't trying, like Will said, 691 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: it was a known secret. We weren't trying to hide 692 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: it from anybody. But we also didn't want to be unprofessional. 693 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: It was very important to both of us that we 694 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: were professional. And we also recognized that just because we're 695 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: dating now doesn't mean we're dating forever. And we have 696 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: to work together, and we don't know how long this 697 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: is going to go on, either the show or the relationship, 698 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: and so let's just to at least make a promise 699 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: to each other that no matter what happens when with 700 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: our relationship, we will always be able to work professionally 701 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: with each other and remain friends. And so it was 702 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: it was a conscious decision. But I spent a lot 703 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: of time with your family over the course of the season. 704 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: I got to know your family so well. They always 705 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: have such a special spot in my heart. And then, 706 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: like you know, Andrew is now a grown man, a director, 707 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: he's like and yet he was little Andy like when 708 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: I you know, back then he was a little boy's Yeah, 709 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 1: it's it's it's yeah. It's very touching. Actually I remember 710 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: that the wild stuff is coming back talking to you guys. Wow, 711 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: period in my life and in our lives. Yeah, all right, 712 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: So I have to ask, did you because you alluded 713 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: to it a little bit, but did you watch Boy 714 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: before you were on it? Good question. I always get this, 715 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, I was not really, I wasn't a television 716 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: watch I the stuff I like the PBS, all the 717 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: nature dogs, you know, um, Wild America, stuff like that. 718 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: But I was like, I don't know, I wasn't a 719 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: TV watcher. Yeah, but you knew of it. You knew 720 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: of the show. Of course I knew of it. I 721 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: mean I knew of you guys. I'd seen pictures, I've 722 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: heard about you. It was I mean, we were in 723 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: the same you know. It was like the same circle 724 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: in a way. Yeah, we must have met before that, right, Matt. 725 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean we must have met at something. I'm sure something. 726 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,439 Speaker 1: I definitely met Joey. It's something. But yeah, I feel 727 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: like we all did. You guys have been to the 728 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: set before. In my mind with Will dating JENNAVANOI we 729 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: must have that there, right, Yeah, you know the first 730 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: place I met your older brother randomly bumping into him. 731 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: He was an actor, I was, I had not yet 732 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: made it. I randomly bumped into him in the bathroom 733 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: at ed Bevis when we were when we were thirteen 734 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: years old. Now, for everyone listening, Ed Bevis is arguably 735 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: the greatest restaurant in the history of the world. Talked 736 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: about on the show and actually people emailed us that 737 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: there's still vis in like Chicago or something, you know anymore. 738 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, some some people let us know that in 739 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: some city I think it is Chicago, there still isn't 740 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: please invite us to your races. Please, we have to 741 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: do a Chubbies pop up at so edibevics if we 742 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: if we did talk about it was like a fifties 743 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: diner where the the waiters and waitresses were obviously actors 744 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: and they would get into their characters and you you'd like, 745 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: look what they'd serve you, and then you'd look away 746 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: and you look back and they'd be sitting at your 747 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: table eating your fries. They jump up on the table 748 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: and start dancing. It was the coolest and so l 749 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: A and a kid from Connecticut just gott I'll take 750 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: care of it myself, just getting off the sleigh and 751 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: putting the horse away. Um. Going to EDIBVS was the 752 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: coolest thing. And the second time I was there and 753 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: when I mean literally bumped into I literally and I 754 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: was like, oh, that was Joey Lawrence and he was like, hey, 755 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: how are you doing? And he was very nice, was 756 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: like hey, how are you? And then he walked out 757 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, that's Joy Lawrence. He's like 758 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: one of the first famous people that I met. I 759 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: was probably twelve or thirteen. And to think that then 760 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: we were all in each other there's lives not too 761 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: many years later, it was so strange. When was the 762 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: last time or have you ever watched any episodes of 763 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: Boy Meat's World since it rapped? The last time I 764 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: think was with you guys. We did a sort of 765 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 1: preview thing once. Um times. Yeah, that was you know, 766 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: and I mean and and rightfully so, I mean, man, 767 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: that one was so much fun with you guys. I mean, 768 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that was only a week. It feels like 769 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: that like the whole season, the whole season of our lives, 770 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: just that one episode that was a huge bonding episode. 771 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,959 Speaker 1: I thought that that one for all of us. Definitely, Yeah, 772 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: for sure. And so did you watch them when they 773 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: were on, like while you were on Boy Meat's World? 774 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: Were you watching them on Friday nights? Or or did 775 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,240 Speaker 1: you just not see it at all? No? No? So okay, 776 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: So here's what happened. There was one phase in my 777 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: life where I decided to experience the party life, and uh, 778 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: it was this is how I became close with Ben. 779 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: Ben and I on Friday nights would always go to 780 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 1: this same place and hang out, so we would miss 781 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: the show everybody. But that's how we got close. It's 782 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: like you go out and you know, it was like 783 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: seventh season. This is at the end of the end 784 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: of the Yeah, we were going out and like on 785 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: Friday nights every that was like the night that we 786 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 1: chose to go out. I don't know why. So I 787 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: missed a lot of them, the earlier ones. Yeah, I 788 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: was definitely watching them because I guess I was trying 789 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: to get better. I was really trying to improve a lot. 790 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: So but that was a really interesting phase though, because 791 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: I had to stop doing that. I started to get 792 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 1: really in my head way way too much. I was 793 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: watching it too, I was trying to I was trying 794 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: to do too much. And then I think there was 795 00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,280 Speaker 1: an episode where I had like a really really bad parents. 796 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: I think I finally got it on shown Knight, but 797 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't remember why. I'm early on and it was 798 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: like episode three or four maybe, but it was really 799 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: really rough for me, and it was because I was 800 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: watching and watching and I stopped them stop. I've never 801 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: really been. It always ruins it. When I'm in it 802 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 1: the scenes with you guys, great, I can watch them. 803 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: As soon as I come into frame, I was like, 804 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: oh I can't, I can't. That's how a writer is too. Yeah. Yeah, 805 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: earlier episodes doesn't bother me that much. But I know 806 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,479 Speaker 1: as we get into the later episodes, when I started 807 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: looking more like I do now, I'm going to be 808 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: way more insecure and like, oh god, oh god, so awkward. Yeah. Yeah, 809 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: I think we're all kind of similar that we it's 810 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 1: not the most pleasant experience to watch ourselves. But you're right, 811 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: watching these younger episodes where we're little kids and you're 812 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: a little kid, it's just like, so cute little kids. 813 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 1: But then you get to be like an older teenager 814 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh gosh, I can bring myself back 815 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: there right now. The reason I don't like watching it, though, 816 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: I bet you, is a completely different reason than you 817 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: don't like watching it. Yeah, well, you probably are reminded 818 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: of anxiety when no, no, no no. For me, it's 819 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: that I'm such a television fan and fanatic that the 820 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: second I come on screen, it takes me out of 821 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: the fantasy because it's like, oh, Yeah, so that's I'm 822 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: not I'm no longer immersed in this play because that's me. 823 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: It's never like I'm uncomfortable with it. I mean, I 824 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: know my work, I know what I've done. It's more just, oh, 825 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: now it's just a real thing, that's work. So it 826 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: kind of takes me out of the fantasy more than 827 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: anything else. Yeah, for me, it's more like, oh, I 828 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: don't like my face when I do when I do that, Oh, 829 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 1: so don't do that next time, or like, oh, that's 830 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 1: not a good angle for me, don't stand like that, 831 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: or you know, like what what was I doing with 832 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: my hands? Why are my hands doing that? And so 833 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 1: then the next time you're on stage, you start thinking 834 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: about the things you had seen the last time you 835 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: watched it, and now you're like, my hands were that 836 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: weird thing. Let's do something new with the hands. And 837 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: then you're you're no longer thinking about what you're saying, 838 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: You're not listening to the person you're in the scene 839 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: with it just like being present. Yeah, being present became 840 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: impossible for me after watching the show. That's why I 841 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 1: stopped watching in second seance for the first season even Yeah, 842 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 1: so your family is still all in the business, and 843 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: you guys have all had multiple different you know, music careers, 844 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: film careers, TV careers, and the industry has changed a 845 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: lot over the last several years, and you guys have 846 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: actually recently we talked about this a little bit at 847 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: nineties Con and the last time we saw you, you 848 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: guys have really created your own production company and are 849 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: now completely producing and creating content on your own. Tell 850 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: us a little bit about that. Yeah, you know, you've 851 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: got to be able to adapt if you really want 852 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: to continue to do this type of stuff. I think, 853 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 1: and yeah, the business changed so much, and I'm not 854 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: a social media person. I respect it and I use 855 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 1: it for different things, like I um follow on anature 856 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 1: a lot of architecture, so I like it as that's 857 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: my entertainment, but it's I can't personally be involved in it, 858 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: I think. Uh, I have some issues with it, so 859 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: I don't really get into the social media thing. But 860 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: so that if I'm not gonna do that, because it's 861 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 1: become such a huge part. Uh. You know. I was 862 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: talking with my younger brother Andy in particular, and we 863 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: were just like, well, then we were gonna have to 864 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: generate content on our own because you know, there was 865 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 1: a period there where if you didn't have X amount 866 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: of followers, you know, you didn't really get an opportunity. 867 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: You weren't getting the opportunities that X amount of followers 868 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 1: were getting. Um So, And by the way, that's the 869 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: you just I just that's the reason why I don't 870 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: like social media is followers. I think it's very strange. 871 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 1: It feels very very foreign to me. I deleted all Yeah, 872 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: well I I The only thing I kept was Instagram 873 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: only because I have a lot of like mentors I 874 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: follow through there. Um So, I yeah, I'm not I'm 875 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: just just not a social media guy. So we had 876 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: to create this company and start to make stuff. And 877 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: we've always been talking about it, and I think the 878 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: pandemic really just it forced us to do it. We're 879 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: just okay, we've been talking about this for over a 880 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: decade now. We we love working together, but the work 881 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: has already sort of we've put it together and other 882 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: people have made it and stuff. You know, the only 883 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: way you know, we're gonna we're gonna fail, We're gonna 884 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: mess up. I think we once we got over that 885 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: because we were worried that because we have a brand 886 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: or whatever we and if we do with something really bad, 887 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: then on once you get past the fear and you 888 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 1: just go, you know what, the only way you learn 889 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: is if you fall flow in your face. You're never 890 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: gonna learn. You just got In fact, the best time 891 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: to jump into something is when you're scared. You just 892 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: got to jump into it and do it. So the 893 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: pandemic happened and we were like, you know what, we're 894 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: finally going to actually just we're just gonna do it, 895 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: whatever the consequences. And we we self funded one, which 896 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 1: was really tough. I mean, we made a film on 897 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: a I didn't think it was possible to do it. 898 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,720 Speaker 1: We got a lot of favors, all of our friends, 899 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: we I mean, it was incredible. But the help that 900 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,919 Speaker 1: sort of rallied around us, and that's how we kicked 901 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: it off, because we got we got it far enough 902 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: along with that first one that we could do the 903 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: second one. Right. The first one, it's not like we're like, 904 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: this is some quality, but you're you're learning as you go. Yeah, 905 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: and you're making movies. Yeah, you're living the dream man. Man, 906 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool, and there's no one 907 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 1: I'd rather do it with my my family, and so 908 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,240 Speaker 1: you know that's really it's the people you surround yourself 909 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: within my opinion, you know that you take that journey 910 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: with It's not the end result, it's what happens along 911 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,320 Speaker 1: the way. So tell us some of the names and 912 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: where we can see them, where we can watch them, 913 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: or what you have coming up that you want us 914 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: to know about. Tell us where we can find you. Okay, Well, um, 915 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 1: there's a couple of things on Amazon Prime right now. 916 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 1: There was last year's Christmas movie, which we're actually about 917 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,280 Speaker 1: to go film. It's called Mistletone Mix Up. We're about 918 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: to go film the sequel to that fun it's cool 919 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 1: yet intended to do all right for Amazon. So they 920 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: this time around, we're not funding somebody else's somebody else's money. 921 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: That's a good one because you know, they go so 922 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: far under water really become a problem. So yeah, So 923 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: so we're we're finally getting financed. And you know, I say, 924 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 1: and he's really leading the and he's got like a 925 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 1: roll deck of things that that he's creating right now, 926 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: and I'm just happy to every time I walk in 927 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 1: the kitchen, he's like right and away and I'm like 928 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: just it's just I step in, I'm looking over his 929 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: shoulder and we're chatting scenes and stuff, and it's that's 930 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: like that right there. That's the best part of it 931 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,320 Speaker 1: right there. You know. Uh, do you and Andrew lived together? 932 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,240 Speaker 1: Oh that's so great. Yeah, so we did live together, 933 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: and then I moved out and then I moved back in. 934 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: So now it's like, you know, but this is the 935 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: same place that. Okay, so this this house, I mean, 936 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 1: this is Boy meets World right here. This this is 937 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 1: why I have this house. This is that show got 938 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: me this place at it since I was twenty years old. Well, 939 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: so it's the same house, I know, you know the house. Yeah, 940 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: it's just I've done remodels. You know, it's grown quite 941 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 1: a lot since then. But because of the lizards, you 942 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 1: gotta keep making all the room for the lizards. The 943 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 1: whole house has just become a giant terraneum or terrarium 944 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 1: or whatever. You have no idea how far I want 945 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 1: to go with this. If I could, I would put 946 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: a giant bubble greenhouse over my entire property and yet 947 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: live inside. Your neighbors would love that. I'm gonna go, 948 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: where can we find you? On TikTok, it's your handle. 949 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: Now do people still come up to you and recognize 950 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: you from Boy's World or do they do? They mentioned 951 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: brotherly love. Yeah, it's it's it's a mix. But you 952 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 1: always get you know, people are just so die hard 953 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: for Boeme's World. But yeah, you always get that, always 954 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: always get a you know, I love when you came 955 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: on and they they asked me questions about you guys, 956 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: as if you know we are still literally living together 957 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:16,720 Speaker 1: or in I know, I know. It is so weird 958 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 1: and also funny how people think that because we worked together, 959 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 1: whether it was for seven years like writer and Will 960 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: and I, or it was three years like the four 961 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: of us here, no matter the length of time and 962 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: no matter how much time passes, it is an expectation 963 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 1: that we are all incredibly close and that we talk 964 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 1: all the time, and that we love each other, and 965 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 1: that no matter what the other one does, were there 966 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: to support. It is so weird. I like, I've turned 967 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: it around a couple of times and been like, do 968 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 1: you still also talk to everyone you have ever worked 969 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: with when you were from Yeah? It's but you know, 970 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's it's because the show had 971 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: such that when we celebrated the ensemble, right, I mean 972 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 1: that was like what those Civil War episodes were all about, 973 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 1: was like how this group of friends needs each other 974 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: and like, you know, I think a lot of TV 975 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 1: shows create that's like, that's what TV shows do, is 976 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: they create a sense of community. You know, like on 977 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: the show, it's like you're inside this group, you know, 978 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: whether it's the office or the bar, and cheers like 979 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: you're a part of this sort of pseudo family. Our 980 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 1: show did that, but then also like really talked about 981 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 1: it a lot, Like we did a whole episodes about it. 982 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: We we sort of like really dug deep into the 983 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,839 Speaker 1: idea that like this group of all of us are 984 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: where forever friends. Um So I think you know, if 985 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: you're a fan of the show, it makes sense that 986 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: you would kind of assume have well, yeah, you would 987 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 1: have a sort of halo effect that they would have, 988 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, go into us as as actors too, like 989 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: they must all also be best friends and hang out 990 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 1: all there. Otherwise it was all a lie. Right, Well, 991 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 1: I would like to say, yeah, seriously, I would like 992 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: to say to you, Matt, I am so glad that 993 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: you came on the show for a number of reasons. 994 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 1: One because you I got along very very well. Um 995 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 1: we did. We also were good foils for each other. 996 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: We we played very well off of each other. But 997 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: Eric could easily have been that character that just kind 998 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: of started to fall by the wayside because they really 999 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 1: had the Corey Shawn Tapanga thing going on, and it 1000 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 1: easily could have been We're just gonna scoot this out. 1001 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 1: Will is gonna come into a scene here there. So 1002 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: bringing you on the show, our characters were able to 1003 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 1: get I mean we all we were often on the 1004 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: show talk about the two boy meets worlds where you 1005 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 1: and I at times might as well have been on 1006 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: a completely different television show, and it was it was 1007 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,839 Speaker 1: you and I together as kind of that odd couple thing, 1008 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: and it just worked. And so I'm very glad that 1009 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 1: you were brought on the show because it it took 1010 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: took my dynamic and selfishly took my dynamic in a 1011 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,800 Speaker 1: whole different way. And like the Fraser Niles thing, the 1012 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: more straight man you played, the more crazy I got 1013 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 1: to go. And you got to really see the dynamic 1014 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: of how because you grounded the scenes we were in, 1015 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,800 Speaker 1: Eric could become a living cartoon character. So it worked 1016 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 1: because you were there. So yeah, I just wanted I 1017 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:08,839 Speaker 1: thought it was awesome when you brought on. So thank 1018 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: you because it certainly made my life a hell of 1019 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 1: a lot easier with you be in there. Well, and 1020 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 1: i'd like to thank you for coming up with the 1021 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: idea for this podcast. Yeah, that was awesome when you 1022 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: came up with the idea for us to do this podcast, 1023 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: we were so happy. Changed changed everything. You know, you 1024 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,439 Speaker 1: can tell my Matt's face that he does not listen 1025 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,959 Speaker 1: to pod me Tworld is what I just took away 1026 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: from exactly Matt's face, like, what the hell I'm about? 1027 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't have anything to say to that. It's so funny. Well, 1028 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: well i'll tell you. I think we should have We 1029 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: should have gone on to do another you know, we 1030 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: so we easily could have easily could have wanted to 1031 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,919 Speaker 1: go another thing, got into a hole, caught up into 1032 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 1: a whole thing. Man. Well, there were talks from what 1033 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 1: I hear, there were talks about us spinning off into 1034 00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: a show. Let us do it somewhere else, and that 1035 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,879 Speaker 1: was the problem. The problem. Yeah, it's never too late, 1036 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: sometimes it is, Matt, Will we see you next? Year 1037 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: for some cons. I think so first that was my 1038 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,840 Speaker 1: first con. Guys, like the nineties, Yeah, that was a 1039 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:24,280 Speaker 1: great start. The first one I went and I couldn't 1040 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: handle it and I left that day. I was like, 1041 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: this is too much for me. Was that the one 1042 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 1: in South Texas? Yeah, I couldn't. You bailed from that one. 1043 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,239 Speaker 1: High didn't know that one. Man. I I was like, 1044 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 1: I was thrown off by it. I don't know, um, 1045 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 1: but the nineties con totally different experience. Absolutely loved it. 1046 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 1: Was great. Okay, yeah, yeah, join us next year. It's 1047 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 1: gonna be really fun. Yeah, we'll go. We'll go have 1048 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,399 Speaker 1: great dinners. After. You'll get to hear writer and Will 1049 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,439 Speaker 1: argue politics. You'll hear me play, you'll hear me play 1050 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 1: mediator where I'm like, well, I think what writer is saying, 1051 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: I think what Will is saying. And it'll it'll be great. 1052 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,879 Speaker 1: We'll have a great time. I miss you guys, miss 1053 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,800 Speaker 1: you too, Miss you too. There is a restaurant we 1054 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 1: want to take you to. It serves the best iguana 1055 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 1: you've you know what they you know, Well, that's not 1056 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 1: going to be a surprise to me because you know, 1057 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: from South America all the way down there. It's it's 1058 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 1: called if things really hit the fan. You know, you 1059 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 1: have twelve babies, got twelve twelve meals just that window 1060 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 1: you're in front of just becomes a big drive through window. 1061 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: I like that. Oh my gosh, thank you so much 1062 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,439 Speaker 1: for being here. This has been so much fun. Yeah, 1063 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,400 Speaker 1: we will see you again soon. Yeah, alright, let's do it. 1064 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: I'll hit you up. We're having lunch next week. We 1065 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,399 Speaker 1: talked already. Alright, alright, cool man, all right, bye bye, Matt. 1066 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:09,879 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so fun. I can't stand that. Guys 1067 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 1: just the worst. He's caustic, snarky. He has stayed exactly 1068 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 1: the same, the same, always the most h Yeah, it's 1069 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 1: just like the happiest, Like I mean, I was happiest. 1070 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: But he's very positive. He never says a negative thing, 1071 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,280 Speaker 1: like no, I've never heard a bad thing about anybody. 1072 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 1: It's just like he just it's like it's if it's 1073 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 1: worth saying, it's positive always, you know, and it's like 1074 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 1: that's so awesome. You can you can usually read between 1075 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: the lines when there's something because it will usually start 1076 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 1: with well, you know, and then there's like a bit 1077 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:48,880 Speaker 1: of a head nod and then it goes, but the 1078 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 1: positive is like ends up with him finding the silver 1079 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 1: lining and finding the positive and his his whole family 1080 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 1: is very much there the same way for people that 1081 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: were read that. And again we we've talked about the 1082 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 1: difference between growing up in the industry and being raised 1083 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,399 Speaker 1: in the industry, and those are two very different things. 1084 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 1: Their whole family could easily be pretty terrible people. Yeah, 1085 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:15,839 Speaker 1: and they're not. They're not at So yeah, it's great. Well, 1086 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 1: that was really fun. I'm so glad that he he 1087 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,359 Speaker 1: came on and went over all those fun memories with us. 1088 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 1: This has been a great episode of pod Meats World 1089 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 1: if I do say so myself. You can follow us 1090 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 1: on Instagram at pod Meats World Show. You can email 1091 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 1: us at pod Meats World Show at gmail dot com. 1092 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 1: And we have got march as a as a much 1093 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: Beat the World Show dot com. So yeah, join us 1094 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: next for episode one nineteen. We will be recapping that episode. 1095 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,720 Speaker 1: And yeah, it was great talking to you guys. As always, 1096 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 1: I always am amazed. I don't know why I'm amazed. 1097 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,839 Speaker 1: It's been so many years of us together, but I'm 1098 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 1: always amazed that no matter what kind of mood I'm 1099 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,840 Speaker 1: in before I see you, seeing you and talking with you, 1100 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 1: I'm always like, yeah, this is fun. I feel better now. 1101 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 1: Yeah it's the worst, isn't it? Isn't it awful? All Right? 1102 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 1: We got together this weekend and it was it was 1103 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 1: supposed to be like a two and a half hour rehearsal, 1104 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: ended up being like five hours of just hanging up 1105 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 1: and like we I didn't want to leave, like I 1106 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 1: had to go pick up my son. It was like 1107 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 1: we talked about the show for twenty minutes. But we're 1108 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 1: doing this all week We're talking to each other, and 1109 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 1: then on our weekends we're still choosing to just sit 1110 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 1: around and talk. I know, I don't know how we 1111 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: have not run out of things to talk about, but 1112 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 1: we like each other too much. I agree. All right, Well, 1113 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,919 Speaker 1: thank you everybody. Will you want to sign us off? Sure? 1114 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 1: We love you all. Pod dismissed. Pod Meats World is 1115 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 1: an I heeart podcast produced and hosted by Daniel Fishel Wilford, 1116 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 1: l and Righter Strong. Executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman, 1117 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 1: Executive in charge of production, Daniel Romo, producer and editor 1118 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 1: Tara sup Buch, Producer Jackie Rodriguez engineer and Boy Meats 1119 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 1: World super fan Easton Allen. 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