WEBVTT - Noah Guthrie 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:14.880 Carala. She's the queen of talking. He was sown your man. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.600 She's on the side. You got the scoop on the walls. 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.079 On the one side. No one can do with quiet, 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:31.440 my Caralam Carola, No one can do with quiet, my 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:37.960 Carala Carol. Hey, y'all, welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:41.760 am your host, Caroline Hobby. I know music, I know people, 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:44.199 and I know the questions you want to ask. So 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:49.000 let's get hyper heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:54.040 so there could be adult content. I'm super pumped about 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.040 this episode because I have Noah got through joining me. 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:59.920 Y'all probably recognize him. He was a star of Glee. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.200 He joined the cast the seventh season. We talked all 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.440 about that. He's also a YouTube sensation. He's had over 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.800 fifteen million or was it twenty five million views, so 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.800 many views on his YouTube page. We talked about everything, 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:14.759 and he has a new album coming out. The Valley 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.280 is so inspiring. I cannot wait for y'all hear the interview. 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:22.640 Here is no a get three? What's up? Oh a lot? 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:29.440 Let's press. You've had a big lie. Uh yeah, hopefully 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.920 gets bigger and bigger. So I want to start with 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:35.600 a heel of rapid fire questions. Right, there's telling me 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:39.880 the first thing that comes to your mind. Okay, okay, Ellen, 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:45.520 Oh my gosh, Um incredibly thankful to be on her 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.600 website at one time telling what happened with that, because 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:53.440 that's why I got you going in a way. Yeah sure, 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.400 Uh no, so I did. I started on YouTube, and 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:02.600 the way I got hearted was I posted a cover 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:06.480 song of like my favorite you two song, which is 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:10.720 where the Streets of No Name. And when I posted that, um, 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.880 you know, I did it just to do it, Okay. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.800 I wasn't expecting anything. I wasn't trying to do anything 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:18.799 with it. You were just putting up a YouTube song. 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.320 I wanted to put it up pretty much, and actually 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.720 I think I think my dad, uh just kind of 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:26.720 decided to put it up, you know, without me knowing 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.920 you has been a big advocate for you. Yes, my 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:33.320 my whole life, which is good in a dad I think. 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:37.560 But no, we ended up putting the video online and 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:41.119 just a researcher at the Ellen de General show Um 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.280 liked it and and wanted to put it on their website. 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.480 They were having a they're in a competition for when 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:48.639 she still had a record label. I don't think that's 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:50.880 a thing anymore. Um, I would like to see who 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.520 could be the next big star, right, And I ended 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.240 up pointing the competition and then nothing happened. Uh, so 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:01.280 we're just like, no, see another thing. Uh. We had 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:05.120 been scheduled to actually do the show like two or 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:08.160 three times, I think, and it just always something never 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.280 lined up. Um. But no, we were super ready. I'm 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.320 still super ready. You have not gone on Ellen, No, No, 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.920 but I was on our website and that really is though. 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:21.359 That competition got everything going. That's when we kind of decided, Okay, 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.080 well now I have a bunch of people looking at me. Um. 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:25.680 And you know, it just gave me traction that I 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:27.960 didn't think i'd get. Did it grow your fan base 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:32.160 being on that show? Yeah? I would say it started it, um, 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.119 just because after that video it was literally the first 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.880 one I posted. The first one you posted gets you 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:41.720 to Ellen. Yeah, you were by the divine because you're 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:43.880 to be twenty three and to have had the things 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:46.280 happen to you which we're gonna get into. Obviously, you've 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:51.360 been on Glee. Five million YouTube views on an on 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:54.440 Ellen a O song would you weren't even planning on 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.280 doing for real? Land U Sepot on Glee. I mean, 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:00.920 your life is so blessed, yeah, very much. You know, 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.640 I do what I can with with what I'm giving, 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.520 and I've been giving some awes, some stuff. It's been 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:09.720 it's been great. Okay. So after Ellen, we was how 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:13.440 old were you when that happened? Oh my gosh, seventeen, 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:18.480 I think. Um. Yeah, So after Ellen, after that website 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:23.799 a little cameo there. UM just decided to start posting 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.880 more covers and and that just kind of fueled the 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:28.400 fan base a little more and more and more and 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.480 than eventually I had the sexy I know it um 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:32.760 cover and and things kind of blew up from there. 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.440 We gotta have pause on that from all right, Okay, 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:39.240 so you're now you have a YouTube page going. I 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.040 was gonna ask you, you know, and you said this, 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:42.920 like you didn't set up to be like I want 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:44.800 to be a YouTube star. Here's how I'm gonna lay 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:46.799 it out. I'm going to post the video every week. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.760 I'm gonna try to like get hooked up with other 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.160 YouTube stars to grow up. You just that was not 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:58.080 your agenda. No, Um, honestly, like from the get go, 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.400 my a thing has always been writing music and wanting 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:06.880 to perform original music. Um. But when we started, or 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:11.080 when I started the YouTube covers, um, you know, it's 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.320 it's it was the perfect way to get my name 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.760 out there because no one's out there typing in noah 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.800 gu through original music ever. Um so they were today 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:23.760 well now you do, um, yeah, so they were only 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.480 you know, you're typing in whatever the big the biggest 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:28.440 pop songs are. So I would try to kind of 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.719 you know, take those pop songs and rework them and 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:33.720 make them my own. And it was a good way 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.800 to build a fan base. Um. And I've I've built 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.440 such a loyal fan base from them. Um And I 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.919 don't think I expected that. I didn't expect them to 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.760 stick around as long as they have, and they've been great. 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:49.120 Um And you know, yeah, it's when you get a 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.719 viral video, everything changes. It's it's weird. So you said 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.880 that a lot of times when you're posting YouTube videos, 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.479 you would do several takes. You would like reshoot it, 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:00.120 make sure it's right. But for whatever reason, when this 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.640 one particular, the l M F A O Sexy and 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.440 I know it. You're like, Okay, I've been wanting to 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.920 post this video for a while. I've been thinking about 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.560 an arrangement, but you just like a one take thing, right, Yeah, 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.800 like lagging like you hadn't post one was? Yeah, what 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.960 really happened is I was I think I don't know 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.240 if it was just some kind of break. I guess 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:22.479 i'd got a summer break or something. Um, And I 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.680 hadn't posted a video in about three weeks, which if 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:26.720 you're trying to build something on YouTube, that's a no, no, 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.760 you can't. Can't do that every week, that's what you 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.080 want to do, like but most now will probably post 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.479 two or three times a week. I just can't. I've 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.279 never been able to do that. But anyway, Um, you know, 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.520 I've been off for about three weeks. Um, And I 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.120 think I was at my dad's house and I have 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.600 been playing this little blues riff um and for some 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.560 reason I sang like wiggle wiggle wiggle yeah over the 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:51.000 top of it, and he was like, you should do that, 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:55.600 and I said no, not, this isn't a serious song. 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:57.800 But you were doing like more seriously. Yeah, you know, 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:00.960 I've always kind of liked the more you know, the 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.560 deeper singer songwriter style of stuff and um, but this, 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.880 you know, I think a couple of days after that, 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:09.560 I was still hadn't put anything up and I was 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.560 feeling very guilty, so UM just decided to do it, 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:17.120 you know, as kind of a goofy like joke to myself. 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.160 You know, you change the arrangement, you kind of mate 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.520 your own. Yeah, it is absolutely not the l M 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.520 F A O arrangement. Um, you know, it's it's just 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:28.520 your standard really, just a standard blues riff um with 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.240 the sexy I know it lyrics over the top and 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:36.120 then just kind of placed in different weird ways. But yeah, 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.560 it was. It was a rare video that was like 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:43.040 one take, um, and I went to bed after I 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.440 posted it, and and it was blowing up the next morning. 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.720 So next morning you woke up. So was that the 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.800 song that was happening at that time? Like that was everywhere? Honestly, 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.440 I think it was. I guess technically in the pop 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:56.040 world it was kind of old at the point, like 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.960 it was like a a at least six or seven 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.640 months old, which know, the cycle just kind of goes 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.840 and goes. So um, you know, I didn't think it 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.560 was going to get that much traction. Um, But it 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:09.600 was just something to post and it was something kind 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:11.880 of different, you know. Um, And I guess that's what 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.200 caught people's ear. Um. But yeah, it it blew up 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.240 the next morning and then eventually I was onto the 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.200 Today Show and just doing a bunch of different press 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.880 and it was it was nuts. So when you go 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:25.960 on the Today Show after you become a YouTube phenomen 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.720 is the topic like YouTube phenomen joins us on the 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:32.480 Today Show. Um, I think it was more of like 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:35.760 they kind of I feel like they kind of hit 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.679 the nail on the head, honestly, because I think they 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:42.560 really marketed it more as like, uh, you know, awkward 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.520 high school kid has viral video and is on the 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.720 show Today to to to share his voice or whatever. 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.480 And and it turned out really really well. They treated 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.560 me so so good on the Today Show and uh 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.400 really just couldn't say enough good things about that that crew. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.520 They were so so awesome and to be you know, 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:05.960 like eighteen and and like I love Matt Lauer for 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.080 so long and still do and like and and and 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.400 Curry was on there when I was on there. Um, 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.360 but you know, I've grown up watching the Today Show 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.400 since I was a kid, and it was it was 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:19.040 really really cool. It was unbelievable. What does that like 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.680 to really have overnight success? Because it's not that you 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.960 weren't always talented and weren't working towards it, but literally 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.480 to go to bed one night, as you say, self, 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:30.839 awkward high school kid and wake up the next day 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.440 and be a YouTube phenomenal going on Today Show? What 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:37.080 is that like to? And then here comes Glee, the 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.040 producers calling you because they want you to join the 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:46.000 hottest show on TV. What is that like? Um? To 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:49.920 the first half of that question, I would say scary, 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.600 a little bit scary. Were you prepared for it? No? No, never, 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.600 I don't think I wouldn't be prepared for it today 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:01.559 if it happened. But it's um. It is such a 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.960 whirlwind kind of event, a viral video or anything that's 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.920 like an overnight you know, overnight success. Um is such 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.679 a It's like lightning on a bottle, right, you can't 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:14.920 just recreate it over and over. And that's what I 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.559 kept getting that question after Sexy I Know what happened? 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.520 Was like, well, how do I you know? People would 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.520 write in how do I make a viral video. I 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.520 don't know, but like I don't you know, there's I 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.440 don't know a formula for it, but um no, I 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.280 mean it's it's really I would say it was scary 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.080 and exciting at the same time. You know, it was 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.920 my first time, like, uh, first time I went to 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.040 New York City and and you know, got to go 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.480 around there and see all the big buildings and beautiful 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.560 lights and what did you think? Oh my gosh, it 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.280 was amazing. But also like being from such a small town, 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:48.360 it like just overloaded me a little bit. Um. But 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.960 now it was you know, no one else had had 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.760 that experience in my close circle of friends, so it 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:58.880 was just weird to kind of have this event happened 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.000 that that no one else had. You know, I couldn't 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.440 relate to anyone else, Like people change around you when 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:08.680 you came back. High school got easier. Was it hard before? Um? 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.160 I wouldn't say it was hard, but I was definitely 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.439 you know, I wasn't like the most popular kid, um, 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:18.559 But it was much easier when people like started hearing 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:22.000 what I'm actually passionate about doing, just saw your talents 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.760 and yeah, so and you know I had I had 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:26.760 some friends that kind of knew what I did already. 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.200 I was in you know, abandoned high school and we 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:33.520 played around the town. But um, you know, once when 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.720 stuff started picking up for me, Yeah, of course, like 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.599 people get a little nicer, they get you know, a 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:42.280 little more cozy. Butch is fine. But yeah, it's it's 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.120 it's a it's a weird thing to have happened to you. Honestly, 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:49.280 if you were to sum up high school, how would 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.199 you describe high school? Because to me, high school is 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.400 such an awkward time for me. Like, I don't know 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:57.080 whoever likes high school. Yeah, there's so much It's just 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.640 such a such a weird phase of life. You know. Yeah, Um, 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.000 I guess if I had to sum up my high 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:09.000 school experience, Um, I was started out band geek, I 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:14.160 went to choir geek. Um kind of got more into 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:17.640 like just the the arts side of things and just 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:24.160 performance in general. Um, but you know, I I'm a 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.920 bigger guy. I was bigger in high school, so like 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:31.960 I was the chubby, um, super shy kid trying to 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.000 figure it out and figure out my friends. Um, and 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.560 I definitely like in my in like eleventh grade, I 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.960 think I think That's when I kind of figured out 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.640 where my my real friend group was. Where where did 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.680 you feel most at home? Definitely like more with the 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.960 like the art kids, um, or just anyone that was 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.360 doing you know, whether it was visual art or performance 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.080 art or anything like that. I just just kind of 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.200 clicked with them because you can still be weird and 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:05.319 it's okay, um, but you know, it's it's kind of 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:09.720 It's what I said before. When I started singing uh 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.319 in public, or when people just started hearing the music 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.040 or whatever, it just it just got easier, you know. Um. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:19.120 I think I was saying this to uh my brother. 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:23.599 The other day. I saw somebody in town that I 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.000 went to school with, and you know, we just said 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.480 what's up and how you doing and stuff. But I 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:30.680 was just thinking about like we in high school, me 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:34.439 and this other guy just ran in such different crowds, um, 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.360 but the one thing that like actually brought us together 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:41.160 was music. And we had such uh, just similar tastes 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:45.640 in music that we really shouldn't have been friends at all, um, 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:47.960 but we were totally, really really great friends. And I 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:49.360 saw him in town the other day and it just 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.959 it lasts, you know, like that connecting thing lasts. Um, 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.080 but you know it's a it was a crazy thing, 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.640 and I think it. I think being that kind of 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.640 kid in high school kind of helped me with the 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.120 character on Glee because it's very much the same. I 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:09.200 was gonna ask you did your life Actually did you 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.959 end up living your life in Glee? Yeah? Kind of? Um, 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.600 minus the really bad wardrobe. Um, I don't mean bad 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:18.920 as in the wardrobe department was bad. I mean the 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:23.480 clothes I had to wear were just crazy. But uh yeah, 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.640 I mean I was, I was, I got it. I 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.120 understood the role Roderick was. Tell me about your role. 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.920 Tell me about Roderick. He was Noah Guthrie in high school? 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.520 So who is no Guther in high school? Who was Roderick? 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:39.200 He was just you know, he's he's I think I played. 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:43.000 He was a senior, so he was a senior. Who 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:48.280 still when you were a senior, I right around the same. No, No, 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:53.080 I actually this was I guess I was. You're just 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:58.480 a little old on the set. But um, No, Roderick 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:02.760 was was, you know, senior in high school trying to 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.760 find like his his group of friends before he graduated. Um, 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:10.880 who kind of had a very like soul, full voice 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:14.080 and kind of an old school look at music um, 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:17.800 which is also me um. And he was just, you know, 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:22.000 he shy and doesn't really know how to like start 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:26.920 conversations very well me um. But you know, it was 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.640 it was easy to play him one because the writers 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.320 were so good at matching the character up with did 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:33.960 they write him first or did they get to know 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.800 you and write him as um. I think they probably 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:41.840 wrote most of the first script without me, just to 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.760 have a something to go from, and then once I 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.400 started reading the lines, they pretty much just kind of 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.440 rewrite if they need to, and I think they rewrote 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.440 some of it um. But yeah, you know, the writers, 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.440 I think we're one of, like one of my favorite 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.240 groups of people on the show. We're just the writers 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.200 that would come in and hang out on set because 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:01.760 they would have to hang out with you to get 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.320 to know you, to see how you would say the 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.520 lines that they think you're gonna say. So yeah, I 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.960 think they did a great job of just making it 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.480 pretty close to me so I didn't have to act 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:14.600 as much, and that was especially good for me because 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:18.760 I've never acted before, so that was completely new. So 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.040 when you get called by the producers, because do they 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.200 find your video? Is that how they found you on YouTube? 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.360 Or how do they find you? And then are you 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.800 thinking because you're like, oh my gosh, I were active. 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.680 I got to join the biggest show. I was on 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:35.680 the road, um, just playing music. Um. And I had 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:39.320 like a little filler date in between two main shows. 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.720 I played this little house show in San Francisco, and 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.720 um it was a tiny show, like ten fifteen people tops, 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.880 because that's all you could fit in this guy's apartment. Yeah, okay, 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:52.680 so you know it was just like a quick way 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.560 to to make a few extra bucks. Um. But anyway, 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.200 I played, you know, a little concert for them in 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:01.920 their courtyard. And one of the guys that had attended, 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.760 his name is Jason I think his name is Jason 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:09.159 Rock maybe, um, but he I think had been on 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.239 The X Factor or something like that. But also he 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.000 was the next day he was going to go to 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:16.600 l A and UM judge some kind of talent competition 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.440 with a couple other judges. One of the other judges, 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.800 I was a girl named Alex who was looking to 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:27.159 help cast for the last season of Glee, and um, 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:30.800 I think she she said to him, I'm looking for 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.119 a certain guy for this role. We can't seem to 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.480 find him. What were they looking for? They were looking 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:40.080 for a shy, chubby kid with the voice of Otis reading, 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:42.880 is what she said. Um, as far as the voice 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.000 of Votis reading, I don't know your voice is out 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:49.280 of this world. Thanks. But know he he I think 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.080 you know, once he heard what she was looking for, 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.879 he was just like, I think I saw him in 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.359 San Francisco last night. So here's his number, you know 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:00.240 if y'all want to connect. And um, you know, we 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.040 didn't expect anything he had. He contacted us again and 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:04.760 just told us, you know, hey, you might get a 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:08.560 call from Alex at casting at Glee, and um, we 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.560 didn't really think anything of it. And then sure enough 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:15.120 we get a call um about a week or so later. Um, 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.760 And you know, at first, I really I wasn't too 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:22.000 keen on doing it, just because Um, I wasn't looking 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.560 for acting. I wasn't not on my radar at all. 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.880 And I and I it was probably just a little 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.920 concerned that I wouldn't be able to do it. Did 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.720 fear creeping? Yeah, sure, scared of what if I fail 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.320 or what if I like make me look like not 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:42.879 the no, no exactly, and you know when it's when 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.159 your music is your main thing and like you I 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.000 want to be known as a songwriter. Um. You know, 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:50.879 we were talking a little bit about this earlier, just 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:52.680 about like I didn't set out to be a YouTuber, 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.120 so I didn't set up be an actor either. UM. 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:56.960 So you know, you just I feel like you always 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.479 kind of want to really think about the choices you 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.440 make and like how far you're stepping out of what 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.919 you really want to do? Do you believe God opens 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:08.119 doors for us so that maybe maybe are that we 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:11.119 would never expect that they're actually getting us where we 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:16.440 want to go? Absolutely? Yeah? Because Glee was the door 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.720 that I didn't see at all. And think about how 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:22.239 many hundreds of probably thousands of people would cut off 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.480 their left arm for that role. Oh absolutely yeah no, 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.960 and you know I can. I had to think about 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:31.720 it a ton, and eventually UM decided to at least 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.639 just send in a self tape audition and you know, 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:37.520 just see what happens, because what is your thought process 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:39.720 of going through then? Like through there, like what are 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.000 what are what does the fear? What does fear look like? 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:50.080 In your head? Um? Hm, I mean, honestly, I guess 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:55.880 it was really just the fear of I think just 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.480 the fear of the unknown and unknown and the fear 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.359 of of of looking like an it honestly, like you know, 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:06.720 and that's so ridiculous because that shouldn't matter, but it's 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.560 such a normal thought we all had. Of course, how 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.359 did you decide to be brave and take that leap? 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.880 And then what did you learn from overcoming that fear 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:16.800 and taking that leap? What did what was the payoff? 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:21.199 I decided by having many conversations with family members and 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:25.560 friends and then and then kind of re evaluating what 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:30.720 it meant. And um, like you just said, I kept 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:33.800 having this you know, well, there's a million people out 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:36.800 there that would die for this role, you know, have 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:41.159 been starving in l A for years, and um, I 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:44.479 don't know. I just felt like it was okay to do, 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:47.679 like at least try it, um. And then once I 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:49.679 once I got the part, you know, I sent in 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:53.000 a self tape and then I eventually had to go 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:56.840 out there in audition in person for Ryan Murphy and 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:02.240 I completely thought I screwed it up, Like I just 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.040 was not confident in the performance. I gave um, and 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:10.000 I don't. I don't get nervous really, but um, I 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:13.280 was just super nervous in front of them, and uh, 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:19.119 Ryan Murphy look just looked so stones. Was it a 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:21.359 panel of judges is staring at you there? Yeah, well, 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:23.160 it was like it was like two of the writers, 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:25.080 the creator of the show, Ryan Murphy, and then like 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:27.600 a you know, another executive producer, and they're not smiling. 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:31.600 It's like they think you just are terrible and they're 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:33.600 board but they're kind of doing that, probably to psyche 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:35.879 you out right. I have no idea why they do it. 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:38.440 I think they're just I think they're so in their 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.360