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Speaker 1: Right before the.

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Speaker 2: News, we played you a clip of the Vista mayor

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Speaker 2: John Franklin. He went to Sacramento to talk before the

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Speaker 2: Assembly Public Safety Committee, actually he's the Senate Public Safety Committee,

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Speaker 2: excuse me. And he explained what it's like for children

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Speaker 2: how threatening the homeless people are, all the vulgar things

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Speaker 2: of the school. And of course this was a very

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Speaker 2: simple bill. You couldn't camp yourself within five hundred feet

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Speaker 2: no sleeping, no nothing, five hundred feet. They voted it down.

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Speaker 2: They voted it down three to one. Very mild bill.

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Speaker 2: You get seventy two hours notice and you'd be giving

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Speaker 2: And then if you still didn't want to leave, you

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Speaker 2: what they would do, They'd give you the equivalent of

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Speaker 2: a parking ticket. Now, this is the minimum that a

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Speaker 2: normal society, a normal community should do for children is

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Speaker 2: get all the weird drug addicted mental patient vagrants out

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Speaker 2: that's not what the Senate Public Safety Committee wanted to do.

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Speaker 2: Talk to the mayor of this to John Franklin, John,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: I was really struck by We played the clip yesterday

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Speaker 1: Talk about your experience.

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Speaker 3: Well, they acted like they hadn't heard a word of it.

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Speaker 3: They didn't care that I read comments from parents and

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Speaker 3: and then recently she came to work to find somebody

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Speaker 3: that smeared their feces all over the front door. This

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Speaker 3: is what we're asking our schools, our teachers, our young

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Speaker 3: students and the parents and what they're going through and instead,

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Speaker 3: in the words of Senator Skinner, we were quote trying

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Speaker 3: to make homeless people invisible. We're not trying to make

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Speaker 3: is called how'se them. We want to give them a

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Speaker 3: navigate your way into getting permanently rehoused. Of course they

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Speaker 3: In fact, the comments from Senator Wahab, the chair, seemed,

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Speaker 2: It just seems like you were speaking to insane people.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's saying in my entire life, whatever side with the

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Speaker 2: nobody in your whole life. Did you ever imagine you'd

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Speaker 3: It is beyond imagination. Senator Wahab said about the children.

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Speaker 3: The only time that she referenced the kids, she said

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Speaker 3: the need for the whole community in other words, and

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Speaker 3: But let me tell you, I've been rolling my sleeves

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Speaker 3: I think I've learned as much as any public leader

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Speaker 3: directly on the streets. There are two major categories of

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Speaker 3: Those people are very easy to help. We say show

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Speaker 3: and we get them rehoused very quickly. We have wonderful

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Speaker 3: They're offering these people. We have approached some people as

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Speaker 2: And that's why they turned down all offers of help,

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Speaker 1: And I've heard Gavin Newsom.

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Speaker 2: Even say that he just doesn't believe that those kinds

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Speaker 3: They obviously have not spent the time that I have

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Speaker 3: And you know, they looked at me and they said,

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Speaker 3: their society, the government, the state, the city couldn't or

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Speaker 3: And we have parents like this, and you know, I

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Speaker 3: we used to do this when an addicts behavior was criminal.

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Speaker 3: We would get them in front of a judge, not

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Speaker 3: so that we could jail them or criminalize the homeless,

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Speaker 3: but so that we could finally use the criminal justice

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Speaker 3: not to criminalize, not to punish, but to help, to alter,

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Speaker 3: And many of those who had those interventions happen because

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Speaker 1: That's what Prop. Forty seven did.

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Speaker 2: It took away the leverage that prosecutors and judges had

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Speaker 3: Well, we sold the Bill of Goods in the state

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Speaker 3: It's not really meant to help people. Look, the reality is,

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Speaker 3: number two to use the general deterrence, and we need

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Speaker 3: to be talking as public leaders about what general deterrence means.

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Speaker 3: I need to see somebody punished for the crime of

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Speaker 3: that if I do that crime, I might be punished too.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of criminal enforcement goes a long way

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Speaker 3: The experiment of dismantling our criminal justice system in the

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Speaker 2: Said John Franklin, Mayra Vista. Thank you for coming on

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Speaker 2: is just loaded with common sense. It's obvious, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Why are we still debating this after all these years.

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Speaker 2: There's no other direction to go in but to go

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Speaker 2: back to the way that we used to conduct our society.

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Speaker 2: We're coming up.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 4: six forty.

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Speaker 2: We were just talking with John Franklin, the mayor Vista.

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Speaker 2: He had unsuccessfully petitioned the Senate Public Safety Committee to

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Speaker 1: It's State Senator Nancy Skinner. It's her again. What kind

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Speaker 2: So now it's the Senate Public Safety Committee that's blocking

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Speaker 2: And in fact, Tom Cotton, the state, the US Senator

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Speaker 2: There's a you know, the the most of the Democrats

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I just didn't get enough time.

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Speaker 1: Is a sex offender?

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Speaker 2: Well, if you've paid a child for sex and you

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Speaker 2: So you get charged with felling, but not go to prison.

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Speaker 1: And here's what Nancy Skinner said.

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Speaker 2: Selling sex has been within human cultures for millennia. It's

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Speaker 2: It's difficult to No, it's not difficult to get into.

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Speaker 2: He wrote a Senate bill some years back which knew

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Speaker 2: What Wiener did is he had a bill that said

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Speaker 2: They must, or they wouldn't put Wiener on the committee.

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Speaker 1: Ah, this is Nancy Skinner.

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Speaker 2: I know she's from Berkeley, right, and you judge Berkeley

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Speaker 2: So she became she became the gatekeeper for the whole state.

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Speaker 1: Coming up at three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we are going to talk with a guy who

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Speaker 2: Scott Wiener would ap prove up here is a video

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Speaker 2: So a kid named Thomas Elliott, kind of a weasley

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Scott Wiener thinks this ought to be legalized.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, excuse me, what are you doing? No, I just

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Speaker 5: saw you put that underneath her dress. Absolutely you did,

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Speaker 5: you absolutely did.

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Speaker 1: I really wasn't.

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Speaker 5: Then show me your phone. Yes, no, we're gonna call security.

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Speaker 5: You absolutely did. And you were following me over in

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Speaker 5: the children's.

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Speaker 1: Section because I have a sister who's pregnant. Ma'am, I

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Speaker 1: really wasn't.

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Speaker 2: You've been extremely close this whole time.

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Speaker 3: Show me your phone.

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Speaker 5: No, let's get security, because this is absolutely wrong.

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Speaker 2: I really don't mean to.

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Speaker 5: No, you obviously did.

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Speaker 1: I really no, ma'am, Please, I really no.

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Speaker 5: Let's get security. I was trying to I have it

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Speaker 5: on video. You are not going to get away with anything.

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Speaker 5: You can say, ma'am all you want, but we will

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Speaker 5: let them decide. I really promise I wasn't trying to

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Speaker 5: do anything inappropriate.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't. I really wasn't. I'm not like that.

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Speaker 5: I literally have it on video, but ma'am, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I really am not like I might have seen.

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Speaker 5: That land like, Okay, listen to me. We're gonna wait

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Speaker 5: for them to get here, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I was just trying to look at.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: I was really just try.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 5: No, like you can stop.

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Speaker 1: Thank you here, welcome.

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Speaker 5: You were so suspicious, following me all around the store.

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Speaker 5: I knew you were up to no good.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: I have a video of him.

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Speaker 5: Sticking his phone underneath this lady's dress as she had

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Speaker 5: bent over videotaping her, and he followed me all around

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Speaker 5: in the store. Okay, So we need to get police.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if you can go ahead and call him. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Why isn't she on the public safety Committee? That's what

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Speaker 2: you need on the public Safety Committee, not Scott Wheiter

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Speaker 2: or Nancy skinner. That woman now here is the kapper?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what he does? He's a volunteer at

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Speaker 2: an elementary school. He's twenty one years old. He's a guy,

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Speaker 2: and he's volunteering at an elementary school. And when he's

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Speaker 2: not at a school, he's videotaping up women's skirts. I

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Speaker 2: told you, any young guy who volunteers to be around

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Speaker 2: little kids not even get paid, that's a bad sign.

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Speaker 2: You shouldn't be hiring. That should be a definite no hire.

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Speaker 2: Or where else did he volunteer? What twenty year old

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Speaker 2: guys into this kind of volunteer work? The O indoor

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Speaker 2: church in Winterville. Yeah, uh so, now they're looking there.

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Speaker 2: He was charged with secret peeping. I guess that's the

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Speaker 2: crime in North Carolina. Felony, secret peeping.

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Speaker 1: Look at that.

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Speaker 2: In North Carolina, it's a felony just to have a

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Speaker 2: video recorder underneath a woman's skirt. In California, you can

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Speaker 2: buy a child for sex and it's not a felony.

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Speaker 2: All right, we come back. We're going to talk to Joel.

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Speaker 2: Let me get his name right, Joel Wesley. And he's

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Speaker 2: he was in that San Francisco JAMU five hours the

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Speaker 2: backup of the Golden Skate Golden Gate Bridge because the

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Speaker 2: pro Hamas pro Palestine pro terrorist protesters were blocking the

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Speaker 2: bridge and the police couldn't get rid of him. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk about it coming up. Hey, you've been listening to

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