1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: This is Teddy t Pot. Hi you guys, welcome back 2 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: to Teddy Teapod. I am super excited about this week 3 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: one we have on Leslie and Bruce, who is a 4 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: number one New York Times bestselling co author of the 5 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: book You Are an Awesome Mom, Which how great is 6 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: that I've got Leslie with me right now. Hi, thank 7 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: you so much for having me. I'm so excited to 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: be here and we are going to be talking all 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: things children's anxiety. So I struggle with anxiety myself, and 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: then also my son has a form of anxiety that's 11 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: really just kind of cropped up in the past year 12 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: where he all of a sudden decided he could no 13 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: longer sleep in his own room. He didn't want to 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: go in public bathrooms, like all of these started kind 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: of changing in our life. And for about four and 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: a half months he was my husband in my roommate, 17 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: like we set up a full bed in our room 18 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: like for him, he camped out with us, and it 19 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: wasn't really until his teacher said to us, um, Teddy Edwin, 20 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: before the baby comes, you need to move him out 21 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: because you don't want to do it once the baby comes, 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: and then him feel like, oh, you're getting the boot 23 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: because you have a little sister that just arrived, and 24 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: then we'll have all these feelings towards her. So we 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: started doing our research on figuring out the best methods, 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: and the biggest thing that has worked for us has 27 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: been meditation with him. And I am like a terrible 28 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: meditator myself, like, but he craves it, loves it, is 29 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: obsessed with it, like sits there and it's like every 30 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: single night before we go to bed, he's like, Mom, 31 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: can we get Andy. That's the guy's name that speaks 32 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: on headspace. And he's become like our best friend. I 33 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: think we're at like minutes meditated in the last couple 34 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: of months. So really that's worked for us. And as 35 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: we've been doing Andy slash Headspace, everything else has kind 36 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: of shifted. He started being able to go back into 37 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: the public restrooms. He's not as frightened of certain things, 38 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: and I've started to learn that if I manage his 39 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: expectations in advance, we have less like chaos when it 40 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: comes down to it, right, did you notice is it 41 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: like a separation anxiety with with you or is it 42 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: like what is it? What? What kind of anxiety. Do 43 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: you think it is? We don't really know, because it's 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: it really has been changing so often, and you know, 45 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: at first, I'm like, is it even anxiety? Is it 46 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: when I'm working a lot? Is it when? But it 47 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: it didn't shift in regards to like, it wasn't like 48 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: when I was filming the show or not. You know, 49 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: it was kind of just but I had gotten pregnant, 50 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: right right, So I think that thing may have had 51 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: a way, a way bigger effect than I could have imagined, 52 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: right right. I definitely saw that with my I have 53 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: two kids. My daughter is five and my son is 54 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: now twenty months, and I definitely saw that, and it 55 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: was it's just change in general. I think with my 56 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: daughter and she has I mean, my husband and I 57 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: both have anxiety. I had horrible postpartum anxiety after my 58 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: son was born. UM, but during my pregnancy it was 59 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: a really it was a high risk pregnancy. I was 60 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: on bed rest bunch and um, so it sort of 61 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: manifests in the house, right And I feel like there's 62 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: like this uh like spillover effect. And so I saw 63 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: with my daughter any time that there's like major change, 64 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: any time that we're we're shifting her dynamic. It can 65 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: it can feel tense for her. And when I got pregnant, 66 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: we had that, and when we moved, we had that 67 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: new school, all of that, and it's just in the 68 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: key for our family. I think it's just the communication, 69 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: really setting expectations, this is what's going to happen. She 70 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: works well under kind of a a controlled controlled chaos. Right. 71 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: That's funny that you said that, because the same exact 72 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: kind of thing happened with me. I was with my 73 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: other kids. I was on a you know, partial bed 74 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: rest on and off. I started getting terrible postpartum anxiety 75 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: as well. So as you're as I'm hearing you say that, 76 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm having complete flashbacks. But 77 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: then you know, I have my son who has you know, 78 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: for the last eight months kind of struggled with it. 79 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: And then recently my daughter um our dog passed away, 80 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: and she had a totally different form of I didn't 81 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: think it was anxiety at all. I thought maybe she 82 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: was sick until I took her to the doctor where 83 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: she kept saying, mom, I can't catch my breath. And 84 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: it happened, and it was all through the holidays and 85 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: she kept saying, I can't catch my breath, like, and 86 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: so I took her to the doctor and we've been 87 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, I thought maybe it's acid reflux. I was 88 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: like doing research on what to give kids for USID reflux, etcetera, etcetera. 89 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: And we went into the doctor and I'm like, these 90 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: are her symptoms, and she like puts her on a 91 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: breathing machine, has a conversation with her, and then she 92 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: looked at slate and she goes, Slate, has anything been 93 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: bothering you recently? And she goes, yeah, my dog died, 94 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: and it's I've just been really sad. And I was 95 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: like immediately trying to reel it in because I wanted 96 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: to like break down at that moment. And the doctor goes, 97 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: you know, you're not sick, right, You're okay that whatever 98 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: you're feeling right now, it's just emotional. And she didn't 99 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: say just I said, jes, but she's like, it's emotional. 100 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: You know, maybe do some breathing, or you can do 101 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: some yoga with your mom or some meditation or different 102 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: things like that, but you are not sick. You are fine, right, 103 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: And I'm not kidding. The next day there was she 104 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: was fine. So it's such a different thing, like she 105 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: just needed someone to tell her you're okay, right, Whereas 106 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: my son, it's like we do this every night, we 107 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: do headspace. We're constantly you know, discussing things that you know, 108 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: walking into the dark room or walking into you know, 109 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: different spaces. But it's crazy how how different our kids 110 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: are and how they handle things completely different, even though 111 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: we're all in the same house, right, I feel like, 112 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like that goes across the board 113 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: with parenting, Like having how I raise one child it's 114 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: going to be completely different from how I have to 115 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: raise the other, and you know, same general guidelines and 116 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: morals and all that. But my daughter responds so differently 117 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: to things than my son does. And to have to 118 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean, for me having to like figure out parenting 119 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: in general and then having to figure out parenting too, 120 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: different kids in two different ways. It often, um, it 121 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: can feel like a lot, but you realize that they 122 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: just respond so differently and so well to different things, 123 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: so you've got to, like, you gotta be flexible, flexible. 124 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: I know. Even the doctor was like, maybe you should 125 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: start meditating with slate as well, and we did it 126 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: that first night when we came home from the doctor, 127 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: and I go, let you want to do Andy, you 128 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: know with Cruise and I and she goes okay, And 129 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: then night to she goes, Mom, I don't need to 130 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: meditate anymore. I'm fine. I'm not having the breathing issue anymore. 131 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: Like she has wants nothing to do with it, and 132 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: she hasn't brought up the breathing thing again, whereas Cruise 133 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: is like, Mom, can we do three Andy's tonight, for 134 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: Andy's tomorrow? Back to three the next day? Like he 135 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: is so regimented. I love that. Do you think with 136 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: your daughter that it was did have anything to do 137 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: with like I feel like with my my daughter, I'm 138 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: having to explain death to her, and that's a really 139 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out how to do it in 140 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: a way that's like appropriate for her age. I think 141 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: she was because she didn't properly. It wasn't like the 142 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: dog was sick, like a tragic thing happened to the dog. 143 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: We had dropped it off at a doggy daycare place 144 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: and the woman had an accident with the dog and 145 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: the dog passed away, and like we were out of 146 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: town and we came back and the dog was gone, 147 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: like there was no goodbye, there was nothing. And the 148 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: first week we were all emotional about it, like we 149 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: were on and like Leaky Faucett's like crying one day, laughing, 150 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: you know, like grieving. But then she didn't talk about 151 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: it anymore. So then I was like, oh, maybe she 152 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: this has past for her. But then it just creeped 153 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: back in and I think she didn't know how to 154 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: express it and I and I should have asked, you know, 155 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: And in hindsight, I should have been like, how are 156 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: you feeling? But I was like, oh, she's not talking 157 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: about it. Maybe maybe we don't need to talk about 158 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: it anymore, because then I don't break down and not 159 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: you know. But it was probably avoidance on all of 160 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: our part, and you know, she was internalizing it somehow. Yeah, 161 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: that makes sense. So before we take a break, I 162 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: want to introduce our next guest who's actually going to 163 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: help us dig into all of these anxiety and stress 164 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: questions when it comes to kids. Her name is Susansen. 165 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: She is a psychotherapist um She works in California and 166 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: New York. She has a private practice and she specializes 167 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: in working with teenagers, a young adults, and families. So 168 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: I am so excited we had. I can't even tell 169 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: you how many listener questions. This topic was above any 170 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: other with questions like my inbox was flooded. So let's 171 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: get to it right after we take a break. So 172 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: here we are. We are back with Susan and Leslie, 173 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: and we are talking all things anxiety. So I mean, selfishly, 174 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: I want to ask about my own kids first, my parenting, 175 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: so I want to dig kind of right into this. 176 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: So something that's kind of gone on with my son, 177 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: which I gave a little backstory before you came in, 178 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: but he was having trouble going into his own room. 179 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: So for a while, my husband and I kind of 180 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: just let him sleep with us in our room. We 181 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: called him our roommate. And then we've recently transitioned him 182 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: to his own room because we didn't want to do 183 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: it right when the baby came. So we are a 184 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: about a month into it. But it truthfully has to 185 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: be one of us at night doing meditation for at 186 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: least twenty minutes why he falls asleep. We have a 187 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: reward chart for him in the morning every night, you know, 188 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: after you know wakes up, then we praise him we 189 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: give him that, but I mean it is a constant 190 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: battle because he's extremely scared about his dreams. So I 191 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: was wondering if you had any other advice for us 192 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: and things that we could do. We also talk you know, 193 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: we have faith, so we talked about like, you know, 194 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: you're being you're protected, everything's good, but he's like I prayed, 195 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: it's not helping. I think it's so important to normalize 196 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: their behavior and what's happening in their nervous system. Kids 197 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: also love science, so to really kind of have them understand, oh, 198 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: this is normal for you to feel like going into 199 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: your room without mom and dad, maybe something scary when 200 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: he's five, right, Um, is really important. UM. And so 201 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: I think you're doing a great job of really working 202 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: with a reward system and kind of getting him to 203 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: a routine and habit of how to go to sleep 204 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: and actually feel safe. But UM, you know, keep talking, 205 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 1: just like as you talked about with your daughter, is 206 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: normalizing this behavior, um, And so he can kind of 207 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: keep gaining that skill of really kind of feeling, um 208 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: that he's capable of going to sleep and capable of 209 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: actually mastering the skill on his own, which is going 210 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: to give him a great sense of agency, right, that 211 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: confidence that he can do it. Yes, I mean in 212 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: that same to a girlfriend of mine her daughter has 213 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: recently just started bedwedding again. Could that be a form 214 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: of anxiety? Yes, for sure. And the thing is is 215 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: that we with children, we don't really um. They don't 216 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: have the maturity to really understand oftentimes what their emotional 217 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: states are and to be able to articulate them. So 218 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: they come out and behaviors and actions, and so it's 219 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: really up to us as parents in order to help 220 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: them to correlate the language with what's actually going on, 221 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: being curious about it, being curious about certain actions that 222 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: are happening during their day that may be resulting in 223 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: an action um. And also not shaming we take back 224 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: steps as children, we take forward steps. It doesn't always 225 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: have to be kind of on this sort of linear 226 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: trajectory of doing everything perfectly. UM. So I think it's 227 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: really just about being calm and being able to connect 228 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: with our children, um, and being able to help them 229 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: with language to understand what's happening. Well, how do you 230 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: as a parent, how are you able to figure out 231 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: if it's something is a behavior or if they are 232 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: developing or suffering from an anxiety. How can you figure 233 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: it out in order to help them? Yeah, I mean 234 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: the first step is always going to your pediatrician and 235 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: making sure that there isn't any medical issue that's coming up. Um. 236 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: But the other issue that I'm super passionate about is 237 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: I think that we're limiting our language for this generation 238 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: and for our children of their feeling states. They are 239 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: allowed to be happy, they are allowed to be sad, 240 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: they're allowed to be anxious, and they're allowed to be depressed. 241 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: And that's kind of how we talk about language with 242 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: kids with feelings. We label so many things as anxiety 243 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: when they actually might be excitement. Right, because in our 244 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: feeling state, anxiety, love and excitement feel exactly the same. 245 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: We get the hard palpitation we get, we might even 246 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: get sweaty, we might get excited, um, but we limit 247 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: that and UM, I think it's really about expanding out 248 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: feeling states for our children, to really give them a 249 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: range and be able to kind of connect with different 250 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: things that are happening. They may be frustrated, they may 251 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: be annoyed, um, they may be super excited, but they 252 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: have a hard time kind of connecting those things, and 253 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: that's really what our job is. Should we be avoiding 254 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: using the word anxiety in front of our kids? I 255 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: actually think so. I think that we overuse it in 256 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: our society and they do too. I mean, we love 257 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: to label things in order to understand them in our brains, right, 258 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: But UM, I think that being expansive on kind of 259 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: what different feelings are so important. There's actually a great 260 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: book called the Human Emotion UM Book, and I think 261 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: it's a UM. It goes through just the various types 262 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: of emotional states and there's some really crazy ones that 263 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: you haven't even ever thought of. And I think kind 264 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: of exploring that with our children, of um, can we 265 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: really expand these out is super important because the popular 266 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: thing that is coming up for pretty much everyone I 267 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: know is how do you help learning slash identifying I 268 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: mean other than going to your pediatrician. But like if 269 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: as somebody who struggles with anxiety, I am hyper focused 270 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: when I think it might be anxiety, So how do 271 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: you identify it with your child without creating a bigger issue? Right? 272 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: I think that what you're talking about is so important 273 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: because you have to really look at what is yours 274 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: and what's theirs? Right. So first I'm packing that the 275 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: fact it is is, oh, am I feeling anxious about this? 276 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: Am I feeling anxious that they're not transitioning? Am I 277 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: feeling anxious that Cruiz is not in his bed and 278 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: we're having a baby in a month? Or is this 279 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: really about him right? Or is he ready for it too? 280 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: That's also a big part of it. Um you know, 281 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: he's not going to go to college sleeping in your bed. 282 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, those morning hugs are pretty great. 283 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: It's funny that you say that because actually, my um 284 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: my sister went through a divorce in her eleven year 285 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: old still is now with my brother out of the house. Uh, 286 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: he's he's developed an attachment to her where he has 287 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: to be in bed with her. And now he's eleven, 288 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: and she has the guilt of not letting of the 289 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: change that's happened, and so she's allowing him to kind 290 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: of be in the room and but she doesn't know 291 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: when it's what's a healthy amount of sort of uh 292 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: time time and cuddling and all of that, and then 293 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: when does it get to the point of, Okay, now 294 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: it's time to transition into our next chapter, Like, how 295 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: do you navigate because it feels like it's such like 296 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: a it's a tight rope. You don't want to say no, 297 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: you don't want to say yes, you know, you want 298 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: to do the right thing. I think that's the hard 299 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: part about parenting, right. It's all individual and we all 300 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: love to judge one another. Two um. So it's really 301 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: when it's starting to interfere either with their functioning or yours. Right. 302 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: So the fact is, if it's interfering with your life, 303 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: are your sleep or whatever it may be, then that's 304 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: the time to actually really work on transitions. If it's 305 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: not and it's working for the family, then it's embracing it. 306 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: And also when it comes to kids, oftentimes you'll see 307 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: a child say, oh, I hurt my arm or my 308 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: foot or my toe or my whatever. I can't go 309 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: to pe or I don't want to go to dance 310 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: class today because my leotard hurts my you know arm, 311 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: you know whatever it may be. Is that a form 312 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: of anxiety or is it attention or what is that? Right? Again, 313 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: I think this goes back to the question of overusing 314 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: that word anxiety, But it's also really about being attuned 315 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: and being curious about what's going on with a child 316 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: and impacking that because it may be a fear base. 317 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: And the fact is is our our nervous system does 318 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: what a nervous system should do UM with anxiety, which 319 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: is keep us alive and keep us safe. And so 320 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: oftentimes it missfires right. And so the fact is is 321 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: that going to the dance class may feel terrifying to 322 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: a child, which causes them anxiety, or it may be 323 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: something else that actually is really going on. But I 324 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: think for us to really kind of move into our 325 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: child and explore, so, why do you get a stomach 326 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: ache every single time you're going to dance class? What's 327 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: going on with that? UM? Is there something that I 328 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: can help navigate with you and really bring down UM 329 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: to their level their understanding of what's going on with 330 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: them internally. But a lot of times your kids will 331 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: say nothing, no, not if if you get to that, 332 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: then what's your next question? What's your next plan? Right? UM? Yeah? 333 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: Because they oftentimes don't know, and so it's really up 334 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: to us to kind of be able to UM investigate, 335 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: to be curious, to be talking to the teachers, maybe 336 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: to other parents, to observe and see what's going on 337 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: that may be causing our child conflict and then moving 338 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: into asking them about those specific issues. Is there a 339 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: certain time a day or a certain situation where you 340 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: think is the best time to talk to your kids 341 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: about those kind of things in the car? In the 342 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: car um, I think oftentimes when there's too much focus, 343 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: that's really when it gets into those feelings of moving 344 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: back and maybe I'm embarrassed about this, or maybe I'm 345 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: feeling shameful. So when they're coming home from school and 346 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: you're driving them home from school, or maybe they're having 347 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: a snack, or maybe it's before bedtime, um, whatever it 348 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: may be, when they're actually really calm, is to moving 349 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: into having them to have that conversation about out dropping 350 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: down and and and what's what's going on with them 351 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: and during their day, just the communication. I had heard this, 352 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I had 353 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: heard the statistic or the study that said that as 354 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: a parent, if you can connect twenty five minutes uninterrupted 355 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: every day with your kid, no phone, no outside anything, 356 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: and just be in front of your child, that there's 357 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: not a lot that can get past you. That you know, 358 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: whether it's depression or bullying or whatever it is, that's 359 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: going on in their life. If you're connecting with them 360 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: for twenty five minutes a day, UM, that that that 361 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: you'll be able to catch anything that's going on. And 362 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: that felt like a really attainable number to me. I'm like, 363 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: I could do that. Yeah, do that. I think it's 364 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: really about also teaching them how to be present, right, UM, 365 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: So because with all the social media and being overscheduled, UM, 366 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: and the meadow commitments that we all have. Now you know, 367 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: we're teaching our children how to be competitive at very 368 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: young ages. UM. There's a lot of pressure on them 369 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: to achieve, both in school, sports, whatever it may be. UM. 370 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: Really giving them that gift of presence is so important. 371 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: So if you have that twenty five minutes to really 372 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: connect with them, really be curious about what's going on 373 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: with them, really ask them the questions to know them, 374 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: you're doing a great job as a parent. What verbage 375 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: would you give our listeners to somebody who's their child 376 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: has a big game or a big test, because a 377 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: lot of the times you hear about a child will 378 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: go in and become paralyzed. We even take a test 379 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: because they're so nervous about not doing well in it 380 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: or they you know, don't even try and practice because 381 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: they're so frightened that they might have to go into 382 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: the game. So like, what is the verbage we should 383 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: put around it so that we take the pressure off. 384 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: But we're also you know, we're there for them, right. 385 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: I always go back to science when we're talking to 386 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: our kids, right because they understand it from a very 387 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: young age. But their brain is doing what a brain does. 388 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: And but the problem is isn't misfires all the time, 389 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: so it doesn't know the difference between a test and 390 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: something really exciting. UM. So I think realizing that behavior 391 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: and going look, this could feel really scary for you 392 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: to be going into but you've got it. You've trained, 393 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: you've you've done the work, You're ready for this, UM 394 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: and now it's just about breathing and calming down your 395 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: nervous system in order for you to be able to 396 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: do the best of you can. How do we how 397 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: do we communicate that to like younger children, like to 398 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: like the four or five six year old where maybe 399 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: the talking of the science might be a little bit 400 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: over their head. How do we help them to sort 401 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: of get their you know, wrap around their emotions. I 402 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: actually disagree with that. I think they get it at 403 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: a very young age. I think you can name it UM. 404 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's even really great to call their magdalumas firing 405 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: as something Amy or Joe or whatever it may be, UM, 406 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: in order to give them a language around that for 407 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: them to feel more agency and control. So the earlier 408 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: that you're actually really teaching them that UM, that they 409 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: can feel safe in their bodies UM and this is 410 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: just their brain misfiring. UM. We get out of that, 411 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: you know, talking about anxiety and talking about fear bees 412 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: and talking about lack of safety, and we get it 413 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: really into feeling more in control. And I mean, maybe 414 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: I did this wrong, but Cruz has been having a 415 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: little bit of a tough time with his letters, and 416 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: so I said to him, Hey, Bud, if every day 417 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: this week we work on the letters in the morning, 418 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: we'll do a little check mark, and then you can 419 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: get a gift at the end of the of the 420 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: week because you you know, you're committing to do the time. 421 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. Within two minutes he was like a 422 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: basic big So I'm not kidding. For months, I've been 423 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: worried about this, like he's not getting the letters, they 424 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: brought it up to meet blah blah blah. But the 425 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: second I did the reward, But then am I also 426 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: pressuring him? See it? Like it's conflicting? So then I 427 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: as a mom, I'm like, well, am I always going 428 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: to have to bribe him to show me what he knows? Like? 429 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: What is happening? I mean, we talk about motivation all 430 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: the time, right, and so he was super motivated to 431 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: learn his letters to get that reward. Like three minutes. 432 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: I was like, you've got I mean, he but then 433 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm curious is he fibbing to his sisters and I 434 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: because I'm not getting thirty twenty minutes before, we were 435 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: all kind of playing around on his board and he 436 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: could not do it, and he was like kind of 437 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 1: playing around, and then he was like, I don't know 438 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: is that a jay? Is it a j? You know, 439 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: like all that type of stuff. But then the second 440 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: reward came in. He knew all of it, But then 441 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: how do you get it when it actually counts? Because 442 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: he's doing that at school as well. For him, I mean, 443 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: I can't go walking around with like the Amazon pulled 444 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: up on my phone like hey, here you go, buddy. 445 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: He's hussling. He's hussling. Well, it's also teaching our kids 446 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: about internal and external reward, right, Um, So the goal 447 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: is as a parent right now, you're giving him external 448 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: reward to hopefully kind of start building the internal um. 449 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: And that's what makes a self reliant and uh child 450 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: later on and what are really gold as a parent 451 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: is But I think that, um, each kid is different 452 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: and trying to find that motivation. Um, whether they're feeling 453 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: sort of that sense of confidence that they can master 454 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: something which is amazing, or they're needing some kind of 455 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: push from a parent in order to kind of get 456 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: them there. But you can't kind of measure every situation 457 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: as being the same either. So as a mom, you've 458 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: got to give yourself a little bit of a break, 459 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: um and not think that every single situation that he's 460 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: going to learn is going to actually need to seem 461 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: exact formula. I'm really bad at that. I'm really hard 462 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: on myself when it comes to the kids because I want, 463 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess I have this fear of 464 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: like making a mistake that will do damage. You know, 465 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: even though I know you trust, you trust your instincts 466 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: and you you know all of those things. But I 467 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: think also because I'm pregnant that like, I just want 468 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: kind of them to feel happy, and so when those 469 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: types of little things happen, then I'm like, what am 470 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: I doing wrong? What I take? I take it personally right. 471 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: I think you mentioned something really important there is you 472 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: just want them to be happy. Well, we're never one 473 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: constant emotional state. They're going to feel different ranges of 474 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: emotion and you have to be okay being uncomfortable as 475 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: a mom that they're not always going to be happy. 476 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: And that's actually really teaching your kids important things too, 477 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: that they don't have to chase these constant states which 478 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: causes anxiety. Well, speaking of that, what is the answer 479 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: to temper tantrums? If your child is prone to having 480 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: major temper tantrums? Like what, in your opinion is the 481 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: best way to handle it. Each child is really different, 482 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: and I think sometimes not focusing on it is the 483 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: most is the best way to go, because when we 484 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: hyper focus on anything, it can either give them a 485 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: reward right because they're getting that they're getting the attention 486 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: that they want, or they're feeling a tremendous amount of 487 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: shame about not being able to have the control over 488 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: their emotional states. UM, and children really need to learn that. 489 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: They need to learn how to control, um, how they're feeling. 490 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: They need to learn how to have the coping skills 491 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: in or to sort of they're manage their emotional states. So, uh, 492 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: it's really kind of coming up with them together about 493 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: figuring out how to get in front of it. Because 494 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: when they are having a tantrum, it is actually they've 495 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: flown the coop. There's nothing that's coming back. You just 496 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: have to let them kind of work it out in 497 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: order for them to come back, because there's no prefrontal 498 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: cortex actually working for them to give them any sort 499 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: of ability to think through, thinking through logical ways of 500 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: coping with what they're feeling. At this point, they're just 501 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: reacting in a really really big way. UM. So, really 502 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: strategizing up front, coming up with routines, coming up with 503 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: a structure ahead of time in order to manage the 504 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: things that you realize that do tend to cause the 505 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: tantrums is super important. What about for a child who 506 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: becomes violent with their parents, that is really kind of 507 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: bringing in professional help when they do become violent from 508 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: the very first time. Yes, um, because they are so 509 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: out of control with their emotional state that they can 510 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: actually calm themselves down. And you're really going to need 511 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: their party in there to give you to help you 512 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: as a parent with the coping skills and the tools 513 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: in order to manage. And there may be other factors 514 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: that are going on for them to be feeling that 515 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: they have to be that violent, uh, in order to 516 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: sort of express their feelings or to be able to 517 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: manage what's happening. And I would recommend getting either counseling 518 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: from school or professional help in in order to to 519 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: help you, because it's just too difficult as a parent, 520 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: is too much pressure for you and you don't want 521 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: to be in conflict with your child in that way. 522 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: Can we define violence? Because when I took my daughter 523 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: to Disney on ice before the holidays and I got 524 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: her a k CD instead of a Hamburger, and her 525 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: frustration was like so real that she bit my hand 526 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: because she didn't know how to commune. She's like, mom, 527 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: I asked for hamburger. I asked for hamburger. You got mad, 528 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: like whatever and she bit my hand. Is that is 529 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: that violence that we go to? I think as a parent, 530 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: you've got to be able to judge right. So if 531 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: it was something that she has room more straight afterwards, 532 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: you're you work it out and and so much of 533 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: conflict that you have between your child is really about 534 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: teaching them communication and repair. So for her for you 535 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: to say to her, you can't do that, you can't 536 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: actually bite me when you're that frustrated. You've got to 537 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: be able to talk about your feelings. We've got to 538 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: figure out how to cope with things and manage things 539 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: together is a better way. Um. But if you're finding 540 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: that she's repeatedly biting you every time she gets frustrated 541 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: or angry, that's really when you need professional help to 542 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: step in, right, And what iss your daughter? Again? She's 543 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: five five? Because you'll sometimes see you know, I'll be 544 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: at the park and you'll see a kid like kick 545 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: their parents or you know, but they're frustrated. But if 546 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: it becomes a pattern exactly, or the parents are not 547 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: managing it well too so exactly, or being emotionally or 548 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: verbally abusive, that's the other factor that fuels it, and 549 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: then we're just bringing in that cycle of shame. Could 550 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: you give our listeners some sort of idea like things 551 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: they could be said that are verbally abusive, that they 552 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: don't realize. There's so many different ways that we do that. UM. 553 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: I think that really it's about UM comparing our children 554 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: to other people, UM, and saying, well, you know, Johnny 555 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 1: does them a lot better than you do, and and 556 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: really kind of shaming our child into something. UM. I 557 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: think that we can talk about their behavior as being 558 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: something really negative or bad or evil. UM. We can 559 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: talk about them being insufficient or lacking in some capacity. UM, 560 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 1: anything that's going to really knock a child self esteem 561 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: or confidence. UM, that's going to sort of prey on 562 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: their insecurities as they're sort of developing who they are 563 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: as human beings. I feel as emotionally abusive and really tough. Well, 564 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: on that note, we have to take a little break, 565 00:29:52,680 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: but UM, we'll come back and really a little more. Okay, 566 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: now we're back, and since we've asked all of our questions, 567 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 1: I think, I mean, not all of ours, but all 568 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: we have time for our questions. I want to kind 569 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: of rapid fire do some of our listeners questions. You're ready, yes, Okay, 570 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: Why do kids bite their nails? Kids bite their nails 571 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: for various reasons, it can be from boredom um to 572 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: to really managing stress because it is a self soothing 573 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: mechanism UM. And so fifty of children bite their nails 574 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: and a lot of parents just ignore it. But um, 575 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: when if it becomes problematic or you're finding that the 576 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: behavior is becoming too too problematically, some kids actually bite 577 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: them down to there's actually sort of to their cuticles 578 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: and it's actually becomes painful, then you really need to 579 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: kind of start to come up with different tactics, whether 580 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: it's putting nail polish or varnish on or manicure um 581 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: in order for them to sort of create different ways 582 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: to manage their their their stress than actually through nail biting. UM. 583 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: One listener had written in that there's six year old 584 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: granddaughter saw an image of a man who was shot 585 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: on TV and has had anxiety ever since. How do 586 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: we help our children if there's you know, when they're 587 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: hearing the news or the things on the outside. Right, 588 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: The hard thing with media now is that they have 589 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: so much exposure to it, and our brains don't know 590 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: the difference between reality and fiction. So when a child 591 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: is actually going to see a horrific image, it actually 592 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: feels as if it's something that's happening to them now. UM. 593 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: And so it's a really kind of normalizing that behavior 594 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: with that child and sort of have them understand that 595 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: this is the world is unsafe and unfortunately this is 596 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: something that they saw way too early and too soon. UM. 597 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: But just to reinforce their their a feeling of safety 598 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: in the world is going to be so important for 599 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: that child in order for them to start link calm again. UM. 600 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: And I really am a big believer and understanding what's 601 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: appropriate media for children at what age? Um. And if 602 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: if a child is experiencing any sort of anxiety or trauma, 603 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: it's a no no for any type of violence, um, 604 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: anything that's going to kind of cause their bodies to 605 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: sort of to to misfire in that way. UM. So 606 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: I like to say, lots of rainbows and ponies that 607 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: they get to watch. In the same token, loud noises 608 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: really upset my toddler. What are some ways I can 609 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: keep him calm? Right? There's there's separate ways to really 610 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: think about it. And one of the things we have 611 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: to really think about is what type of personality does 612 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: a child have? Um? And sometimes that kids could be 613 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: on the spectrum, or they could be more of an 614 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: introverted child that loud noises and lots of people tends 615 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: to upset them more So, Again, it's being curious about 616 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: who your child is is um, but to figure out 617 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: how much they can tolerate coming up with a plan 618 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: ahead of time. I know you love routines and schedules, 619 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: but this would be really about if you're going to 620 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: a family function, how much can they actually manage? Um, 621 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: Putting them in situations that they may be able to 622 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: tolerate for shorter periods of time, then to kind of 623 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: keep them there and keep them hyper aroused or overwhelmed 624 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: the whole the whole time is really important. While you 625 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: said spectrum, what are what is something a parent should 626 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: do or like, what are signs that maybe your child 627 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: is on the spectrum and what are the steps they 628 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: should take right. Um. Again, I think this is a 629 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: term that we're overusing in our culture at this point 630 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: about talking about people being on the spectrum, because we're 631 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: all different and we all have kind of a range. Um, 632 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: it's really important to be working with a professional at 633 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: the point if you should just suspecting anything out of 634 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: the norm is going on with your child with spectrum 635 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: issues rather than misdiagnosing or are getting into kind of 636 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: a language around to right. But you said a loud 637 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: noise would possibly be a child being on the spectrum. 638 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: So for a parent hearing that, if all of a 639 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: sudden I heard this, then I would go, oh, well, 640 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 1: my daughter is afraid of loud noises. So I'm just 641 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: trying to give them some sort of range of other 642 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: things to keep an eye on before you rush to 643 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: the doctor, because you know that can also be they 644 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: have sensitive ears or you know, there's so many different things. Yeah, 645 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: I think that's a good point. Is really kind of 646 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: sensory issues. See difficulty time with connecting with other peers 647 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: or within the school, ability with eye contact, UM, feeling withdrawn, 648 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm not engaging, not seem to be paying attention. Um, 649 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: there's there's a there's a big there's a big range 650 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: of it. But it's really kind of seeing that they're 651 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: not able to kind of connect in the way that 652 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: maybe other children are. UM. And also to that high 653 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: social anxiety being around certain individuals or situation is causing 654 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: them a tremendous amount of stress. Those would be signs 655 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: that we would start to really need to pay more 656 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: attention to You talked to a few moments ago about 657 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: UM the importance of reassuring our children in their safety, 658 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: especially when seeing medium images. So what about a child 659 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: who has fear at home, who is so worried at 660 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 1: night that she's checking doors to make sure that they're locked, 661 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: making sure that she's safe or he's safe in her home. 662 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: How can we reassure safety for our children Right when 663 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: a child is going through repetitive behavior like that and 664 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: it's becoming something that's really compulsive, I'd really be curious 665 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: about what else is happening. There may have been a 666 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: traumatic event, There may be in something that happened UM 667 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: that there needs to be further exploration around, because they're 668 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: trying to feel agency and control of safety by checking 669 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: the locks ten times uh in order to break the 670 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: pattern once we understand what's causing it. In order to 671 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: break the pattern really is just about getting them to tolerate. 672 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: So may you're taking that down from ten to nine 673 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: to seven to six over time in order to really 674 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: allow them to stay calm, in order to feel the 675 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: sense of agency and control in their family. But I'd 676 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: be really curious about what's going on in order to 677 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: cause that kind of problem. Does the same go for 678 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 1: like ticks, Yes, yeah, I'm normally triggered by something that's happened. Yeah, 679 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: and and and the and the fact is ticks usually 680 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: go away. But the more that we hyper focus on them, 681 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: the more attention we bring to them, and the more 682 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: that usually the tick actually happens as well. So um, 683 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: but it's children don't always have the language to communicate 684 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: what's going on, so we it comes out in behaviors. 685 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: And same thing for self harm. Yes, yeah, when you 686 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: can't tolerate the emotional state becomes so overwhelming that the 687 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: only way for you to manage it is by harming yourself. Um. 688 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: And whether that's cutting, or whether it's over exercising, eating disorders, 689 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. And uh, that's really important to 690 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: get a professional involved if there's any suspecting any kind 691 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: of self harm is going on with your child in 692 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: terms of you know, what things that we can do 693 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: to offer our children support beyond um, beyond just the communication, 694 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: to do something like a weighted blanket. Can that help 695 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: with anxiety with children? I am a huge believer in 696 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: weight to blankets. I have probably five in my house. Um. Yes. 697 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: The one. The one issue to really worry about is 698 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: coming from a trauma lens, which I'm always going to 699 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: come from, is if there was any sort of situation 700 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: where a child had suffocation or felt like there was 701 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: something that happened where a weighted blanket could actually cause 702 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: them to feel more unsafe and could cause more anxiety. Um. 703 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: But what it really does is that they were designed 704 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: for children on the spectrum with sensory issues in order 705 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: to calm down their nervous systems so they weren't flaring 706 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 1: around at night. And it's the same thing with anxiety. 707 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: If we're moving around the whole night. Uh, you know, 708 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: having some weight on our body is really going to 709 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: allow us to calm down, and don't of a system 710 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 1: to calm down. I just got a way to blanket 711 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: over the holidays. I've never slept so good in my life. 712 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: They're amazing. I like it, well, I like one now 713 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: because I tried it and it has like a cooling 714 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: thing in it. Before it didn't and I was getting 715 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 1: very hot. But now with this one, I'm like, okay, 716 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 1: I like this and my son likes it as well, 717 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: but only some nights he'll tell me he's like, I 718 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: don't want the blanket tonight, and he can also not 719 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: have his feet covered. Sometimes it was what I find children, 720 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: so they just have a partial. They also have smaller 721 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: ones they can just put on their chest, or they 722 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: have stuffy animals, so they'll find if kids have a 723 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 1: hard time traveling in the car, or maybe it's transition 724 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: going to school and they have their way to blanket 725 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: on the or their weighted stuffy animal as they're going 726 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: to to uh to school and they find a lot 727 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: of comfort in that. Do you think anxiety is a 728 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: learned or inherited trait? That's nature versus nurture. Right, we 729 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: know about epigenetics. We know that in utero what gets 730 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: transmitted trauma gets transmitted to a to a child. So 731 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,439 Speaker 1: there is a factor of that if there's been any 732 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: stress or trauma um how that gets transmitted to a 733 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: child's brain. But there's also in the environment. If if 734 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: you if you are of a parent that is struggles 735 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: with anxiety, there's going to be certain behaviors that you 736 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: really that that that the children are going to learn 737 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 1: around you. So it is both it's not either or 738 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: are there certain like supplements or I know a lot 739 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: of people talk about oils or something like that to 740 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: help our children cope with these with these feelings. I'm 741 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: not a doctor to actually prescribe, but there are things 742 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: that I do really love and my probably my favorite 743 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: is Holy basil. So it's it helps with adrenal health 744 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: and so especially with anxiety. What we wanted to do 745 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: is we want to calm down our journals. UM. So 746 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 1: they have it in tuh, they have it in little 747 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: droppers that you can put in water. UM. I often 748 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: recommend it to parents. What about CBD or E M 749 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: d R. I hear a lot about those things. So CBD, 750 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: I would say, now, there's not enough science. We don't 751 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: we don't really know what's going on around it. We 752 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: love to market anything that's new. There's plenty of data 753 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: to support various various issues that it has supported. But 754 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: as a general practitioner at some point, I wouldn't be 755 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: recommending that for anxiety at this point. But to each 756 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: their own right. UM, E M d R are various 757 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 1: modalities for to help children or families. There's UM internal 758 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 1: family systems, there's havening technique, there's somatic experiencing E m DR. 759 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: These are all great modalities to help with trauma, to 760 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: help with anxiety, but it really just depends on the individual, 761 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: so it's not just one thing that actually is going 762 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: to help everyone. Um it would try them out and 763 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: work with your practitioner and see what actually works for you. 764 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer right now in having technique. I 765 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 1: really love it Havening technique. I don't know that please 766 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: shed some light. We have no idea. I mean what 767 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: it what it really does is it helps to um 768 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: interrupt that neural network that happens when we do experience 769 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: trauma or we're experiencing anxiety, because we wire things together, 770 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: we wire patterns together, and so it didn't interrupted by 771 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: actually kind of teaching really simple things like you know, 772 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: doing the alphabet A to Z with animals, or doing 773 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: cities and countries at counting steps in your mind, doing 774 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: imagery because our brains can't be hyper aroused and feel 775 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: that we're in a threat straight state and being actually 776 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: doing higher level thinking at the same time. So it 777 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: really helps with that and I've seen so many people 778 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: really get tremendous amount of results that I've struggled with anxiety, 779 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: struggled with trauma and it's it's something I'm super excited 780 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: about right now. Maybe this is going way over my head, 781 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 1: but like, what is an example, sa mom brain, I'm like, 782 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: what is like having? Is it a practice then that 783 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: you're it's it's a it's a it's a therapy practice 784 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: that we teach our clients, but it's something that you 785 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: can teach haven. I'm like, I've got to go to 786 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: Google dot com my professional that I deal with on 787 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: a daily basis. I'm happy to talk to you more 788 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: about it too. No, it sounds cool, and I know 789 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 1: this is going to sound a little bit weird, but 790 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: like I've also noticed when kids are on electronics a lot, 791 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: they almost become like zombies and so therefore you can't 792 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 1: even tell their actual behavior because it's like a detox 793 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: right after they get off of it. Do you think 794 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: it's all tied hand in hand? Do you think that 795 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: there should be a limit, like what is the limit? Um? 796 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: I love custodio apps that you can be tracking what 797 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: your kids are doing UM and how much time they 798 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: are on you can set all those limitations for it 799 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: and what they can see and what they can and 800 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: to your point, yes, their brains do not know the 801 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: difference between reality and fiction, and when they're getting into Fortnite, 802 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: they're feeling the same way as if they were actually 803 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: going to be a drone operator. I just looked at 804 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: Leslie like this. I mean my son, actually he's never 805 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: played Fortnight except he went to one point we were 806 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: at like somebody's house and they he saw him playing. 807 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,439 Speaker 1: And he has asked me every day just watching one boy, 808 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: much older boy play Fortnite for fifteen minutes. He's now 809 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,280 Speaker 1: asked me for probably over six months, can I have Fortnite? 810 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: Can I have for like, what do they put in 811 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: there that like gets into kids brain. I'm like, no, 812 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: you cannot have Fortnite. That stop asking. It's not going 813 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: to happen. But like for it to have that big 814 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,280 Speaker 1: of an impact from just watching somebody else play a game, 815 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: I don't even get it. Well, a jacks are nervous system, right, 816 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get We're going to get adrenaline rush 817 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 1: from it. Um. So there's a part of it that's 818 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: really exciting, the fact is that you're shooting things and 819 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,240 Speaker 1: you're feeling all exhilarated, but to your point is getting 820 00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: them off it's it is, it's addictive. Um, there's a 821 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: social currency around it too. That's really really hard and 822 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: these are hard things to navigate. And that's what I 823 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: love about that website because I think she really does 824 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: a great job explaining from the from the brain science 825 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: of what actually is going on with our children that 826 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: we can't argue with and and they can't argue with. 827 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: It's not kind of Johnny gets to do this or 828 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: or someone else is doing it. It's really kind of understanding, Hey, 829 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 1: this isn't good for you, and this is why we're 830 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: not doing it as a family. This is a decision 831 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 1: that we've made, even though it's a hard one to do. Um. 832 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: But I think it's all talking about moderation and what 833 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: your child can tolerate and what they can't. What what 834 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: does moderation look like? Because sometimes if I'm trying to 835 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: cook a meal and I have two kids running around 836 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: the house, like I just need a thirty minute episode 837 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: of like Pop Patrol too so I can get to 838 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: take the edge off. Yeah, I think that's a great 839 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: h that's a great time frame to you're not it's 840 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: not two hours, it's not you know, all day they 841 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: have unlimited amount of time. You're giving them a finite 842 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: period of time. There may be even a reward system 843 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: around it, and maybe once you get your homework done 844 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: then you get this reward um. But giving them a concrete, 845 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 1: finite period of time that you're consistent is so important 846 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 1: around media for children and really again monitoring it, know 847 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: what's going on. There's a lot that's happening that so 848 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: many parents don't know how is happening, and then it 849 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: creeps up on them and then you have a really 850 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: big problem. So it's based on like an hour, like 851 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: the the amount of time like I'm trying to figure 852 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: out because I feel like just in practicality, like what 853 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: is a good with a good time frame to to 854 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 1: help parents? I mean parents tend I tend to sort 855 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: of say, like do thirty minutes of chunks. But it 856 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 1: really depends on you, um that because sometimes when you 857 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: get into an hour, then it's the snowball of transitioning 858 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: out of is so difficult, depending especially depending on the 859 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: age of a child, and you really have to look 860 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 1: at where their maturity is. Five year old is going 861 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: to be very different than as sixteen year old, and 862 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: how if if you have a bunch of kids, and 863 00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: you have one child who's really struggling behaviorally, how do 864 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: you we we know now we've kind of talked to 865 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,280 Speaker 1: you about what to do for the child that's struggling, 866 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 1: But what about the other kids? Yeah, that's such a 867 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: hard thing that I see in my practice a lot too, 868 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: is just the focus and the hyper focus on the 869 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: child who's struggling, and then the child who is not 870 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: or the children that are not I feel ignored or 871 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 1: their needs are not really met, and then later on 872 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: it it kind of creeps up on the family. Um 873 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 1: So I think it's so important to constantly be checking 874 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: in with them to know what's going on, seeing what 875 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: the impact is. Even having other people if you don't 876 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 1: have the time or capacity because your child's needs, one 877 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: of your child's needs is so great. That's really where 878 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 1: you're kind of bringing resources of your child's your your 879 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: children's teachers or their after school activities, of their coaches. Hey, 880 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: can you just check in with them to make sure 881 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 1: that they're doing Okay. I'm really stressed about this one 882 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 1: particular child, and I really need to help. We have 883 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: to work together as a community and as a tribe 884 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: and really nor to support our kids. And you know 885 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,959 Speaker 1: a lot of times her mom's I'm just saying moms, 886 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: but I'm sure it's parents say, like, the only way 887 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 1: that I can get my kids to listen to me 888 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 1: is when I raised my voice. What are your thoughts 889 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: on that? Like, what are your thoughts on actually snapping 890 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: at your kids or even if it's plan a planned snap, 891 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: what are the repercussions of that? I mean, we've come 892 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: to a time where things have shifted so much from 893 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: like how I was raised that that was like, I 894 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: mean a lot different. But I'm just curious because what 895 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: is the okay way now? Right? I think it's so 896 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: important to teach our kids about repair and saying sorry 897 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 1: and apologizing and accountability and we're and that we're human 898 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,879 Speaker 1: and as a parent, we're going to make mistakes all 899 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: the time, and to really communicate that to our children 900 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: is you know what I messed up. I should have 901 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,360 Speaker 1: said something different, I should have acted different. This is 902 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: a way I wanted to do it. I just got 903 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: really frustrated. Um, you're going to make mistakes, and I 904 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 1: think to be kind to yourself as a parent is 905 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: so important. The other factor, though, if it becomes sort 906 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: of a pattern that the only way you feel that 907 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 1: you can get your child to do something is by 908 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 1: screaming about them. Is what you're really teaching them as 909 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: a vowed dominance and control, and that's not healthy for 910 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: a child, is a fact, as in order to be 911 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 1: louder and bigger you have to in order to get 912 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: what you want is not a great way to be parenting. 913 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 1: So to really be checking in with that and maybe 914 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: working with someone in order to support how to communicate 915 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: with your children differently. One question that I think is 916 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: interesting is when do you push your kids to and 917 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: through a new situation or a situation that might feel 918 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: a little scary for them versus not forcing them into it. 919 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,800 Speaker 1: I know my daughter with like rides and stuff, I 920 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,839 Speaker 1: get Disneyland, certain things they're really scary to her when 921 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: they shouldn't be. When do you sort of encourage it 922 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: and when do you back off? Yeah, I think it's 923 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: looking at the situation. Um, if it's something that's going 924 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: to feel terrifying and their nervous system and you it 925 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: makes sense to you why they would be fearful of 926 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: doing it. Maybe it might not be age appropriate for 927 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 1: them at that time. Maybe that ride is she's just 928 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: too young for at this time, and maybe when she's 929 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 1: ten she'll be super psyched to go on the roller coaster. 930 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: But I think it's also about setting it up for success. 931 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: We talked about it ahead of time. We set up 932 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: the goals, we set up what's going to happen. We 933 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: love imagery in our brains, and so if they can 934 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: imagine what's going to happen, it's going to calm them down. 935 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: And then it's going to really make them feel excited 936 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: and and and feel so proud when they actually are 937 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 1: accomplishing it. And then it's just doing the repetition. Once 938 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 1: they've got it down, Let's do that again. Let's do 939 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 1: that again, and keep doing it until it becomes something 940 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: that they've self mastered. Because I know I've fallen too 941 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 1: fault to that. When it's like they don't want to 942 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: try it's something from like the new slide at the park, 943 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: like I don't want to try it, I'm like, let's try. 944 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: Let's try it with mommy. First, boom we go. There's 945 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: crying at first, and then okay, I want to do 946 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: it again. But then I'm like, did I just push 947 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 1: them too far? No, you didn't. You taught them about 948 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,359 Speaker 1: that they can actually take risks and they can take 949 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: care of themselves. I mean that's a great parenting, okay, 950 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: But at what point then if my like this ride 951 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry to make this about me, but if 952 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: there's like ride that she wants to go on and 953 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 1: that is you know, she's tall enough for her friends 954 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: are going all of this, and now it's sort of 955 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 1: at what point did she create? Are you creating like 956 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: a monster in their head that oh, I don't want 957 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 1: to do it, I don't want to do it, and 958 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: you sort of just take them down the slide, like 959 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 1: Teddy said, and you show them that it isn't this 960 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 1: big bad thing again. I think that's really about kind 961 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: of doing the imagery with them ahead of time. She's 962 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 1: seen the ride, she can even look at it on 963 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 1: the internet. She can talk to her friends about their 964 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: experiences and set that up for success, figure out where 965 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 1: there may be kind of traps or she's just not 966 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 1: ready for maybe she's she hasn't kind of worked through 967 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: her feelings yet about it. But I think if she 968 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: can imagine what it's going to be like, then that's 969 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 1: going to actually encourage her to actually want to take 970 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 1: those steps in order to do it, and then when 971 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 1: she does it, I mean it's all array, you know, 972 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 1: so proud of you. Let's go do that again. And 973 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,280 Speaker 1: she may be on that ride three or four times 974 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 1: at Disney that day. What about when it comes to 975 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: like a security blanket or toy or stuffy or whatever 976 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 1: it may be. Now, oftentimes in school, they're not letting 977 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 1: your kids bring those things in. Yeah, that's really tough 978 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,919 Speaker 1: because you've got school policies. But we were talking about 979 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: children and their development is all going to be different, 980 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have different life factors. They're going to 981 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 1: have new babies and brothers, or they're going to have 982 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,279 Speaker 1: a death in the family, and if those things bring 983 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 1: them comfort and they soothe them, it's tough. Um. So 984 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: I think it's really meaning your child where they're at 985 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 1: and try to really work with a school. Um. I know, 986 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm a mom and I when we moved to California, 987 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 1: my daughter was in third grade and was having a 988 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: tough time and we ended up having a hamster in 989 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: the science lab that it really helped her to kind 990 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: of connect friendships and to talk to people. And I 991 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: worked with a school in order to make that happen. 992 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 1: I mean ended up being like the highlight of the 993 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 1: third grade as well too. UM. But it's thinking beyond 994 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: just sort of what the structure of the school looks 995 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: like and seeing if they can really work with you 996 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: to accommodate your family. Did you talk to the actual teacher? 997 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 1: Did you talk to the headmaster? Like what was the way? 998 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: What was your approach to actually make that happen? Um? 999 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 1: I actually did both. UM. I have an introverted child. 1000 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 1: I gave them Susan Kaine's book on Quiet and talk 1001 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 1: to them about just you know, this is overwhelming for 1002 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,240 Speaker 1: her to being kind of a new environment and UM 1003 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,240 Speaker 1: and really advocated for her as a as a parent 1004 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,399 Speaker 1: to help her and said, hey, you know, how can 1005 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: we sort of set this up her success and in 1006 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 1: order to kind of have her connect with people in 1007 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: different ways? And so snowball became the popular animal to 1008 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 1: be taking home on the weekends. UM. And it became 1009 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 1: something that was a tradition and people knew that that 1010 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 1: was my daughter's Hamstern really allowed her just to to 1011 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 1: to thrive. We've talked about the about younger children, what 1012 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: about teenagers that are kind of suffering um from anxiety, Like, uh, 1013 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 1: a fifteen year old who's not sleeping, or a fifteen 1014 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: year old who's moved to a new location and they're 1015 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 1: now having this Like, what are ways that that we 1016 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: can help our teenagers, especially when they're like I don't 1017 00:52:54,000 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 1: like the therapist you took me to and it happens repeatedly. Right, So, unfortunately, 1018 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: one third of our teenagers ages thirteen to eighteen are 1019 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: going to experience anxiety. We know that college freshmen statistics 1020 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 1: are forty one. We're seeing rates going through the roof 1021 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 1: for our our youth at this point. I mean, anxiety 1022 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 1: is a real problem for them. Um, and it's hard 1023 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 1: because they're around it so much and there's so much 1024 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:27,240 Speaker 1: conversation around it that actually even causes more anxiety. UM. 1025 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 1: So it again, I think it's really about educating them. 1026 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 1: I work with a ton of teenagers and they feel 1027 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 1: so empowered to really understand how their bodies and brains 1028 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 1: are working and learning coping skills in order to kind 1029 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 1: of manage that. So, whether it's pinky breathing in order 1030 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 1: for them to learn abdomen breaths, um, whether it's using imagery, 1031 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 1: whether it's doing various techniques tooling them up in order 1032 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: for them to keep grabbing at things in order to 1033 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: calm them down. Um. The other really interesting thing that 1034 00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 1: I brought up earlier too, is about labeling emotions. Had 1035 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: so many kids come in and they're telling me they 1036 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 1: have a panic attack before they're going to their first 1037 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 1: dance or their prom or their first kiss, and they've 1038 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 1: labeled that as something that's scary and terrifying versus something 1039 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 1: that's so exciting. And so we really have to kind 1040 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 1: of shift them to understand that they have a capacity 1041 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,360 Speaker 1: to have more feelings than just four and that is 1042 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 1: okay for them to feel exciting, to have heart palpitations, 1043 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 1: and to be nervous about a first kiss. That's a 1044 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,800 Speaker 1: good thing. And we've got to kind of start warring 1045 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: our brains in that way. How do you know, as 1046 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: a parent, though, if your child is just having that nervous, 1047 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 1: excited energy, like I know if I'm about to go, 1048 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,839 Speaker 1: like speak to a group of people, or that I'm 1049 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 1: not having anxiety. I'm excited, and that's a good thing, 1050 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: and it means that I'm going to deliver well. That 1051 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 1: being said for a kid or you know, a teenager 1052 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 1: who could possibly be having like a true blown panic attack. 1053 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 1: How do you know if that's happening versus the other. 1054 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they're not having a panic attack 1055 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 1: about going to the prom. I'm saying that they have 1056 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 1: actually not allowed themselves to even imagine the fact that 1057 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 1: they could feel excited. They've just kind of limited their 1058 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 1: feeling states to just these few things. UM. That's one 1059 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 1: of the really big issues. But the other issue, to 1060 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 1: your point, is just the amount of pressure we've got 1061 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,840 Speaker 1: to take the pressure off for these kids. They have. 1062 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 1: They feel like they have to have everything figure it out. 1063 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: They have to be masters, they have to know where 1064 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,799 Speaker 1: they're going to college, they have to be experts in 1065 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,399 Speaker 1: their sports. Single sports that they're having burnout, um, they're 1066 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: having injuries, um. And and we have to kind of 1067 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 1: say it's okay if you're not getting the A, it's 1068 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 1: okay if you're not being the top athlete. It's okay 1069 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: if you're not you know, succeeding at everything. They just 1070 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 1: feel this tremendous amount of pressure. So we really need 1071 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: to be able to hold the emotions that they're not 1072 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 1: able to carry. That's our job as parents. UM. And 1073 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 1: in order to help them launch and in closing, because 1074 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 1: I know we're running out of time, what would you 1075 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: say the key piece of advice you could give to 1076 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: any parent out there on anything in regarding this topic, 1077 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 1: like the one takeaway, The one takeaway, it's just really 1078 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 1: about being curious about your children, understanding and connecting with them, 1079 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 1: and being present with them to really to really to 1080 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 1: really allow them to feel like they have a safe 1081 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 1: space that they can really talk about their feelings, they 1082 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 1: can talk about things that are hard um and then 1083 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 1: really trying to teach them how to resource and come 1084 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 1: up with solutions to combat these issues that they're not 1085 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,760 Speaker 1: carrying around these nervous states and their bodies all the time. 1086 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,319 Speaker 1: That's a good takeaway, absolutely, and I think it's a 1087 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 1: good thing for us to think about too. I mean, 1088 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 1: how often do we think we're present but we're not 1089 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 1: necessarily present as parenting all the time. I'm like, I'm like, 1090 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 1: because it has you know, sometimes like I'm like, Okay, 1091 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,439 Speaker 1: I'm putting the phone completely down, it's our time, we're 1092 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,879 Speaker 1: doing this, and then my mind will wander and I'm 1093 00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 1: not actually fully my body is there and I'm not 1094 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 1: looking up the phone, but I need to, you know, 1095 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 1: continue and I write that down like as like in 1096 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:09,280 Speaker 1: my goals or like my daily goals is like be present. 1097 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: And I have the same thing with adults with everything, 1098 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 1: and so I think that's such a huge thing for 1099 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 1: all of us to think about, is like really figure 1100 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 1: out a way that works for you that you can 1101 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 1: be present when you're doing things. If not, we're just 1102 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 1: going through the motions and like not really living the 1103 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 1: life that we want to live. And I think to 1104 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 1: your point, like being present in ways that like you 1105 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 1: feel like you can be present for like I don't 1106 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 1: know if that's like if you're you can sit down 1107 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 1: and play old made with your kids or legos or 1108 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 1: whatever are something that like you can actually in engage 1109 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 1: with as well. So it's it's so it's sort of fun. 1110 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 1: So it's no, like I'm not a craft gal, Like 1111 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm not the one that like wins the like our 1112 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 1: kids never win craft day because I'm not the mom 1113 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 1: that's like gonna be killing it at that. But like 1114 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 1: I love to like take my family and like family 1115 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 1: hikes or we play soccer, or we're doing you know, 1116 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: bike rides those types of things. Whe we can laugh 1117 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 1: talk about our favorite songs like that for me is 1118 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 1: my like best way to just spend time with the kids. 1119 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 1: But I know some moms who can get down on 1120 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 1: the ground and like they can honestly play barbies for 1121 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 1: two hours. That's not my strong suit. So it's kind 1122 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 1: of knowing your strong suit and formulating around it, right, 1123 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, at least that's what I'm telling myself. I 1124 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 1: think you're making a great point too, because it may 1125 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 1: be that your family is a ping pong family, or 1126 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 1: you may be swimmers, or you maybe having Friday night 1127 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 1: game nights. Um. And also to you, using humor is 1128 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: so important for kids. Um, so just laughing. You mentioned 1129 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 1: that it's just so important. So have fun, be present, 1130 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 1: do things together, try not to take ourselves too seriously. 1131 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you guys, thank you so much for 1132 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 1: coming on today. I truly appreciate it. And I think 1133 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 1: we I think we got through a lot of the questions. 1134 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: I think we we we hammered through. So I hope 1135 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 1: you guys keep sending in your questions no matter what 1136 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 1: the topic is, we will get to it. I love this, 1137 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 1: So thank you guys for listening, and I'll talk to 1138 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 1: you next week. Thanks for listening. Subscribe to Teddy t 1139 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 1: Pot on I Heart Radio, or wherever you listen to podcasts.