1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to this special episode of the From the Podium 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: podcast presented Bibles Eye Event Group. I'm Gabe Klea Brown's 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: brass in town here at the Circle City and you'll 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: be hearing from them on Cleveland Browns Daily and From 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: the Podium and the best podcast available all week long. 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: On this episode, you'll hear from your general manager Andrew 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Berry at both the podium and in his local media scrum. 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: We'll start at the podium with Andrew Berry. 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: How's everyone doing? Do you guys survive the blizzard? All right? 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: All right, So, you know, past month, it's been fast 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: and furious with you know, with Todd assembling the coaching 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: staff and getting prepared for Indianapolis. It's it's really been 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: a great past couple of weeks. You know, Todd's been 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: a really great partner. I'm really excited about the group 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: of coaches that he's put together, that we're put in 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: the finishing touches on and uh, you know, coming back 17 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: down to glorious Indianapolis where we get to have our 18 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: first look, so to speak, of this upcoming draft class. 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: We expect to be a productive week with you know, 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: meeting meeting a number of the young men and players 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: that we're gonna have interest in come April, you know, 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: as well as have good conversations with with some of 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: our own guys and impending free agents. So a lot 24 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: of business to do. Uh feel really good about where 25 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: we're headed. And with that, I'll open it up for 26 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: questions that you know, Chris, I think one of the 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: biggest misconceptions is that youth equals you know, lack of performance. 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 2: I think two of the three youngest teams this past 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: year were Philadelphia and Green Bay. I think, you know, 30 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: we're a little bit unique in the NFL where it's 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: not like you know, Baseball, where a team, you know, 32 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: a prospect has to be in the farm system for 33 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: seven years before they hit the big league level. There 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: was certainly an adjustment period for you know, for young players. 35 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: But we want to have high expectations for guys that 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: you know, that come into our program to be role 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: players to ascending to starters. And I think we saw 38 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: that this past year with this past draft class. What 39 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: is your understanding of the two years future, you know, Tony, Uh, 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: you know, Joel's still working through that and you know, 41 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: at this point in his career, at this point in 42 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: his life. You know, he deserves the time and space 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: to do that. Stay in regular communications and we'll work 44 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 2: through that at the appropriate times. Baga, absolutely, you said 45 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 2: you'd start work. Uh, you know what right now, it's 46 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: what February twenty fourth. Thank you. I appreciate, Scott. So 47 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: you know, we don't have to make that decision anytime soon. 48 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: I think any player that we have in that room 49 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: we would expect to, you know, to compete to earn 50 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 2: a role. Those two would be no different. You said 51 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: you're an. 52 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: Ample room fee. 53 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 2: How aggressive do you expect to be expecially no, great, 54 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: great question, So Scott, I would anticipate that there's at 55 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: least the chance that we would be a little bit 56 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: more aggressive relative well mores more aggressed of them last year. 57 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: But it'll be targeted and opportunistic, you know. I think, 58 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: you know, realistically, we may be one more off season 59 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: away from being like hyper aggressive in that in that window. 60 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: But if there's something that that fits us, fits our roster, 61 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: fits our timeline, then it's certainly, you know, certainly a 62 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: swind will. 63 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 4: Take that balancing. What you said is that like balancings 64 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 4: set a couple of months ago, that very are like 65 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: psychical across when you're not in a position to have. 66 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is Ashley, because I think, you know, we're 67 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: still you know, building out this new core. I think also, 68 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 2: you know, roster spots their commodities, and I think one 69 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: of the things that we want to continue to lean 70 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: into that we did last year is having master spots 71 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: open for young players to contribute and grow and play, 72 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: as opposed to necessarily maybe blocking them for you know 73 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: a short you know, a short term solution, you know, 74 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: based with my our team is. 75 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 5: Currently talked about fitting the schemes. 76 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: It's help with an offensive line. What does that affect 77 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: that you were as you know, you have pol players. 78 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: How does that work with you? Well, I'd say I 79 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: think you could look, you know, you could look no 80 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: further than Baltimore, like if you go you know, from 81 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: you know, left to right on their own line, you 82 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: had Ronnie Stanley. Obviously he had been one of the 83 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: better left tackles in the game. You know, at left guard, 84 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: you had a combination between Andrew Voorhees, who was more 85 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: of a strength related player in Emery Jones who was 86 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: a rookie, Tyler Lindenbaum, who was an athletic style s 87 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: center Danielle Filele, who was you know, like a like 88 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: human orc, a big really big power player that type 89 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: of thing. And then Roger rose Garden, who was you know, 90 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: more of your athletic style player. So, you know, I 91 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: don't think that there's necessarily like just a uh universal commonality, 92 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: but they have to have enough of everything to be 93 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: scheme versatile? 94 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 6: Are schools s side? 95 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 7: How do you go the rat of. 96 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: The best player in the leader? Since dalst I think 97 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: you've you've heard me say over the years that the 98 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 2: draft it's really for like highest sustainable impact. And that's 99 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: not to say that need or positional value doesn't have 100 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 2: some role in that, you know, But at the same time, 101 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: it's not like you're just gonna match your picks to 102 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: the you know, best of whatever. I mean. I think 103 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: about a year ago this time, I wouldn't have guessed 104 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: that the draft would have played out positionally the way 105 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: that it did in twenty twenty five. And you have 106 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: to be flexible. You have to be adaptable in terms 107 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: of where the player pool and where the talent pool is. 108 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: I think the good thing about this coaching staff, you know, 109 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: really in all three phases is they are very adaptable 110 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: to using your best player. So you have to be 111 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: open to the fact that it may not look exactly 112 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: the way that you know, you'd envision it, or that 113 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: you'd hope that it would look, you know, coming out 114 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, i'd say this, Mary Kay, So I 115 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: say number one probably a better question for Todd, you 116 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: know tomorrow when you know, when he hits the you know, 117 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: when he hits the podium. I think the biggest thing 118 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 2: that we want to see from Shador is just continue 119 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 2: to growth. I think he grew a lot from start 120 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: one to start seven. You know. I think certainly, you know, 121 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 2: playing more efficiency, not putting the playing more efficiently, not 122 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: putting the ball in harm's way as much, you know, 123 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: would be important, you know, while maintaining the you know, 124 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: the ability to produce out of structure and generate explosive plays. 125 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: You're not going to see all that in the upcoming 126 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: months because we're not on the field. So the biggest 127 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: thing that he can do is learn the new offense, 128 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: you know, get in when with the coaching staff once 129 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: our off season program starts, continue to work on his 130 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: his body physically and and then make strides when we 131 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: actually get on the grass. Let me go here and 132 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: then I'll go to you offensive work to bed. I 133 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: don't think there's a fixed number there. If they're the 134 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: right ones you're telling me, I get Tristan Wirf's, Penny 135 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: Sewell and Tyler winter Ball and yeah, sure I'll take it. Yeah, 136 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: those guys, this rookies. Yeah, you can sign me up 137 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: every year. I don't see a problem with that. 138 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 6: Think. 139 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, Grant is I'd mentioned after 140 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: our search process. I think the coaching community in general, 141 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: the NFL coaching communicaty in general, is in really good shape. 142 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: I think there are a number of young and maybe 143 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: not well known coaches that are going to be really, really, 144 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: really successful, you know, when they get their opportunities. You know, 145 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: Grant was super smart, you know, very detailed. He had 146 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: come up under really good, really good mentors, very adaptable. Uh, 147 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: He's obviously done a nice job in Jacksonville, and i'd 148 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: imagine he'll continue to do so. It's the most important position. 149 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: We wouldn't talk about it any differently if we were 150 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: drafting an old lineman or a d lineman or something 151 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: along those lines. I don't think that you can invest 152 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: in enough. 153 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: Your hesitation pat two last years and handed another one 154 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: issues with three you know, ten years. 155 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 8: Or under, guys in a couple of years. 156 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: I wouldn't put any restraint on it. 157 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: How was the Landob progression from his injury? 158 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 6: And do you expect him to be a big. 159 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: Factor why those? Yeah, he's progressing well, he's been in 160 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: there every day. He's done a really nice job, you 161 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: know with his rehab. You know, he's uh, he's right 162 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: on track, and I would expect him to factor in. 163 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 8: What about Wipler? 164 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: Ditto there? Yeah, you know, Tony, I don't want to 165 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: misspeak on that. I can't asked. I can't remember at 166 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 2: this at this current moment. But he's he'll he'll be 167 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: ready to go. All right, let me go Actually, then 168 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: I'll go Joey, Then I'll go Jory, Okay. 169 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 4: Jost Data goodbye. I guess that's why you think about 170 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 4: the picture of those ends of things here working, how 171 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 4: much you. 172 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: Have kind of intus Uh, you know, it would be 173 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: it would be disingenuous to say it doesn't factor in. 174 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: We're very pleased with with Harold and and we do 175 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: view him as the future of that, you know, of 176 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: that position. You know, what he did as a rookie, 177 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 2: as a rookie player, as a twenty one year old 178 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: was you know, was incredible. And I think one of 179 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: the most difficult things to do as an organization and 180 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: certainly as a general manager, is when you realize there's 181 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: a possibility that a professional relationship has has run its 182 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,599 Speaker 2: course with a long tenured player who has done a 183 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 2: lot for the organization, and you develop a personal relationship 184 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: with you know, if David's not back, you know, he'll 185 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: be a Brown for life. And I'm sure that whenever 186 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: he does hang him up, he'll be a dog Pound 187 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: captain at the beginning of the games. And I'm sure 188 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: he'll he'll mask the guitar with the shirt off, so 189 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: we'll be well excited to bring him back. 190 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 8: I'm sure. 191 00:09:51,640 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 192 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: Jory, that's a fantastic question. I'm actually really glad you 193 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: asked it. It's funny because I was before I came 194 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 2: down here. I was actually like going back and looking 195 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: through all my notes with Rondell through the draft process, 196 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: and this is a young man who was incredibly well 197 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: regarded whoever, you know, with everyone who had been around 198 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: him had an incredibly bright future, and I was just 199 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: thinking that, you know, what people don't realize is like 200 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: how hard the rehab process is on professional athletes, especially 201 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: when you have major injuries. And it's not just the 202 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: grueling process of getting healthy, but it's the isolation that 203 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: that comes with it a lot of times, and for 204 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: people in their early twenties or their mid twenties, where 205 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 2: it may be it may be the first time that 206 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: they've experienced a professional setback, or you know, they don't 207 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: have maybe the communal aspect that that normally comes with college, 208 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: and it's frustrating. 209 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: You know. 210 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: I do think that as a league that we can 211 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: do a better job you know, resourcing you know, resourcing 212 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: clubs to make sure that we have that touch point. 213 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: It's something that we're we're really proactive with and we're 214 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: really sensitive to. We try to make sure that as 215 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: many of our guys are as possible can rehab locally 216 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: or be on site so they can have that that 217 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: team affiliation. We encourage our guys to stay in meetings 218 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: and we also have scheduled regular check ins with you know, 219 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: with team psychiatrists and team psychologists because we do know 220 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: that that is a real factor, but it's it's an 221 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: incredible tragedy, and I do think it's something that we 222 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: could be a lot more aware of. Is there something 223 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: that has changed significantly from year one now that you 224 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: lives to I'd say two things. No pandemic, but probably 225 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: the bigger thing is, uh, just growing in patience and 226 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: my wife, my kids, my staff, Monk would probably tell 227 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: you that I'm will definitely tell you I'm not a 228 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: patient person, but I think I'm growing with that with 229 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: each year of experience. Let me let me go here 230 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: and they'll come back to you, Tony. Okay, Yeah, Tom 231 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: created a little brush fired, didn't he. So I think, uh, 232 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: you know, unfortunately, maybe some of that itself was maybe 233 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: a little bit mischaracterized and overblown. But you know, look, 234 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: the head coaching position is the most important position in 235 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: the organization or head coaching quarterback are It's a position 236 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: where you're gonna sink significant resources, it's going to have 237 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: a huge impact. It's really like you're hiring our CEO 238 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 2: for any other for any other company. The other thing 239 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 2: is the hiring rules for the NFL are a lot 240 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 2: more unique than they are probably in any other industry. 241 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 2: So Number one, we want to know everything that we 242 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: can about CANNAIS and that includes you know, reference work, 243 00:12:54,760 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: that includes obviously the interview process, their work history, behavior assessment, 244 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: cognitive assessment. It's that important. But the other piece of 245 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: it is I think what you know, maybe many people 246 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: don't realize is the first two weeks of the process 247 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: you only get three hours on a zoom right, and 248 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: that's very limited time for the topics that you have 249 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: to cover. And one of the things that we did 250 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 2: was we gave you know, some of the candidates maybe 251 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: five prompts so to speak, that we would talk about, 252 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: you know, during that virtual session. But it's better to 253 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: get them ahead of time than necessarily like get it 254 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: on the spot and then you have to answer something 255 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: that's a little bit more deep and involved. So it 256 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: was something that was really fruitful for us, you know, 257 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: we were we were really pleased with the interaction with 258 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: we have the candidates and like I told, I forgot 259 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: who I told her earlier, the coaching candidate pull in 260 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: the NFL. It's it's in really good hands. So last 261 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: year a lot. 262 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 5: Of view. 263 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: With the owner to a lot of program what do 264 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: you do that vision? Uh TBD Tony it's you know, 265 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: we're in maybe a little bit of a different position, 266 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: a little bit of the different class. You know, We're 267 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: not you know, we're not picking to although we are 268 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: picking six. I think the the quarterback class is different, 269 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: you know, than it was in terms of you know 270 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: when and guys may go off the board. But needless 271 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: to say, well, we will devote a lot of time 272 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: to the passers like we do every year. Can you 273 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: talk about the building, do you think he would be 274 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: more young persons as plums? Not necessarily, Scott. I guess 275 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: thinking about the offensive line, I actually think what Chicago 276 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: and what Ryan Poles did last year is a really 277 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: nice model if you think about it. They did a 278 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: combination of internal development, uh veteran editions. In draft right 279 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: you had Darnel Wright who he really came into his 280 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: own at right tackle this past year. They traded for 281 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: Joe Thuni, they traded for Janna Jackson, they signed Dolman 282 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: and free agency, and they drafted Ozzie Dean Trapilo in 283 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: the second round. So it's a nice mixture of like 284 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: youth the end experience, and I think that you know, 285 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: we would look to take a CIMO approach if the 286 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: player markets lined up for us a couple more than actually, 287 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: I think any any player on our roster, we would 288 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: want to compete, like we believe in competition at every spot. 289 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: You know, that's no different than than quarterback. Deshaun's been 290 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: been working really hard. He's been working his tail off, 291 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: and like I said, we're excited to going in April 292 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: with all of our players across the roster because competition 293 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: is something that we really believe in. I didn't hear 294 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: what you said after slot wide receiver position. I think 295 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: it's simple, like, hey, get open, catch the ball, make 296 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: plays with the ball in your hands, like really necessarily 297 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: care how guy does it. But look, we all want 298 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: receivers who can who can get open, catch it and 299 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: create after they have in their hands. Thank you. 300 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: Now here is your local media scrum with Brown's general 301 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: manager Andrew Berry. 302 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: Why do you think last year you had probably the 303 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: most successful draft in your tenure. 304 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: Did anything change in. 305 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 3: The processes or how you want about evaluating the prospects? 306 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: I think just resource management, Scott, Like I give this 307 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: example where if you're going fishing and you're fishing for trout, 308 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: and you're in a pond where there are three trout 309 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: per square meter, you're probably gonna catch more fist And 310 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: if you're in a you know, if you're a pond, 311 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: that's you know, got three trout per three hundred square meter. 312 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: And you know, we talk about resource management or how 313 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: we manage our draft capital or trading down or things 314 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: along those lines, and you know, we're going to be 315 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: in a two year period here where you know, we're 316 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: going to have the most draft capital in the leak, 317 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: where we're exiting a three year period where we have 318 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: the least amount of draft capital the league. And that 319 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: does have an impact. That's an impact on your strategy, 320 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: that has an impact on your risk conversion. The other 321 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: piece is when we were probably in you know, our 322 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: last most competitive window, we did use a number of 323 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: those resources to aid for Zadarias Smith, Amari Cooper, you know, 324 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: Jerry Judy, like you know guys like that. So that 325 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 2: also like plays into it, like where you are in 326 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: your team's life cycle, just learns how you use those resources. 327 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: It is time to let's go a member of the organization. 328 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: Uh he is not, but he's like he's been I 329 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 2: think you guys have seen him around the facility and 330 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: everything like that. He was my first boss. Like I 331 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: love Tom. So he's like a consultant in the search committee. 332 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, no, so he helped us out, but like 333 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 2: nothing going forward. He may uh not formal, but we'll see. 334 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 2: Like listen, I'd love to have I love to have Tom. 335 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 2: I'm gonna use to as often as I can. 336 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 9: So, Andrew, you said that you know you would scour 337 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 9: and look into the quarterback market as it stands now 338 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 9: just a couple of weeks wit from free agency. 339 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: Do you believe there's a. 340 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 9: Legitimate avenue to add a high a quality starting quarterback, 341 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 9: whether it be through signing or trade. 342 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 2: Are you talking specifically on the veteran market, Daniel, Yeah, 343 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: tvdel you need. 344 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 10: The perception on the outside and the sister receiving court 345 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 10: maybe isn't good enough. 346 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: Do you disagree with that? I guess and why I 347 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: think we can. I think we can add all across 348 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: the offense. To be honest, Dan, you know, I think, 349 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: you know, we're really pleased with, you know, some of 350 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: the younger players that we have in the sense of, 351 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: you know, Jerry's gonna be a big part of it. 352 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: We were pleased with, you know, Isaiah's rookie year. That 353 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that we can't add to the arsenal. You know, 354 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 2: Malchi he had, he carved out a nice role. But 355 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 2: we also look at as probably more like global weapons 356 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: and global like pass catchers, so Harold would be a 357 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: part of that. Obviously cues a weapon for us. So 358 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: we want to look at as like the overall skill 359 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: infrastructure as opposed to maybe a specific decision. What do 360 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: you what do you let me let me give What 361 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: do you think attributed to Jerry's season and his struggles 362 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: last year? You know, I think, honestly like it's probably 363 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: the same things that attributed to the offense as a whole. 364 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: I mean, and look, you do see this from time 365 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: to time with you know, with with players across the NFL. 366 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 2: I remember, you know, Jeremiah's first year to his second year. 367 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: You can look at what happened with Brian Thomas Down 368 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: and Jackson. Actually I was thinking about this like they 369 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 2: were the two first ball Pro bowlers in twenty four 370 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: a year ago, and both of those guys had you know, 371 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: down years this year. So it does happen. But we 372 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: have a lot of confidence in Jerry, you know, for 373 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 2: a guy to produce how he did it twenty five 374 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: years old, break all the records, and play to his ability. 375 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 2: We think that if we can, you know, make our 376 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: offense a bit more operational, we would expect them to 377 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: bounce back. 378 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 8: Do okay, do you expect him to play this year? 379 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 8: And if not, is there a timetable to where you 380 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 8: have to kind of make a decision like you did 381 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 8: last year? You're gonna put it in a month in 382 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 8: May on public? 383 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say this. You know, we are dealing with 384 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: Jeremiah from month to month. I'm not necessarily overly optimistic, 385 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: but there isn't a there isn't a hard deadline for 386 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: which we have to make some type of buying decision. 387 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 7: Wonder would you say that there is a realistic chance 388 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 7: for you guys as you look over the whole veteran 389 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 7: market and you look over the rookie quarterback markets, is 390 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 7: there a realistic chance in your mind that you guys 391 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 7: could find somebody that could supersede Deshaun and Schidor. 392 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: I think there. I think there's always the possibility, but 393 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 2: we have a long way to go before before we 394 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 2: get to that point. So, you know, we expect to 395 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: have a competitive room, like that's going to be important 396 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: to us. But what that looks like I can't exactly 397 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: define that as we sit here today, two injuries to 398 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 2: Judkins on the same leg. Is it realistic to expect 399 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: him to be ready for for what training camp? Many camp? 400 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: It is? Yeah, it is. He's he's he's made really 401 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: nice progress. He's in the training room every day, he's 402 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: out of the he's out of the boot. He's actually 403 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: started his pool running and everything like that. So he's 404 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 2: done a really nice job with this recovery. 405 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: What about Ethan Posick and his recovery. 406 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. I actually got a text from from Ethan, 407 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 2: you know, last week. His last checkup was, you know, 408 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 2: a really positive update. You know, Poe will do everything 409 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: in his power to to make sure that he gets 410 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: back to full health and he'll work his tail off. 411 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: So we'll see. 412 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 4: So they're a world in which you could be back, though. 413 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say, like everything's on the table depending on 414 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 2: how these different player market jake out, But I wouldn't 415 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: necessarily to commit to one, you know, firm them either way. 416 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 9: He andrew it with with Jim Schwartz resigning. Why didn't 417 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 9: you why did the team release him from his contract? 418 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: Ultimately, Yeah, I understand the question, Daniel, but that's not 419 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: something I think is really like, I don't talk about 420 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 2: player contracts in these settings. I wouldn't talk about a 421 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: coaching contract in this So Emerson was rehabbing Martin all 422 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 2: you were going, you didn't extend him during the season. 423 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 2: What is his future? It's unseubtleed Tony. He's doing a 424 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: nice job with this rehab. Obviously he's coming back from 425 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: achilles injury. His contract is up, so we'll have to 426 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: see what that looks like in the next few weeks. 427 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 7: How about Dylan Gabriel? Is Dylan Gabriel? He sort of 428 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 7: seems like the forgotten man whenever we talk about the quarterbacks. 429 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 7: But what do you see is the outlook for Dylan 430 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 7: depending on what might happen in the draft and free agents? 431 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I say this, he may be forgotten next cerally, 432 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 2: but he's not forgotten to us. You know, we look Dylan, 433 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 2: he's working, like you know, he is going to handle 434 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: everything that's within his control. And like, look, we love 435 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: all of our players and on the roster, and Dylan's 436 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: a guy that he has a right future in this league, and. 437 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 9: We're gonna get to you love it should be kind 438 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 9: of taken calls on any of the quarterbacks. Would you 439 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 9: be open to taking calls on any of the young quarterbacks? 440 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 9: I'd say this like more generally with trades. I think 441 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 9: you guys know I'm always super active, and you know 442 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 9: part of your job is to listen. 443 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 8: Andrew, I know you said that you know everybody in 444 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 8: the rooms competition of the quarterback, you have a defecto 445 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 8: need to have a kind of a de facto number 446 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 8: one going into like offsea Ota is that sort of thing? 447 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 8: Do you feel like he could be wide open? 448 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: Yes? Where's the connection to Dom Capers anyone on the staff? 449 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: So Rudy, Rudy worked with him when he was in Jacksonville. 450 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: But Dom like obviously super well respected. He's a really 451 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: good coach, He's an awesome human being. So where's that 452 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: at them? 453 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 3: Any interfornation with three first time coordinators growing pains there? 454 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure, Look, I probably everyone here raise yourn if 455 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: you didn't have any stumbling when you got your you know, 456 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: first first new job. But they're all really strong coaches 457 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: and and you know, I'm I'm excited about this girl here, 458 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: How would your characterize the cap situation as you guys 459 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: get ready for next month? 460 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 8: Good? 461 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you'll you'll have to redo Deshaun's number, Is 462 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: that right? We'll see. 463 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 6: When it comes to evaluating like young offensive lineman, I 464 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 6: feel like there's like a perception that the college game, 465 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 6: the way they play, you know, maybe could you guys 466 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 6: transfer that. 467 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: They're not quite as ready for the NFL level? 468 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 6: Do you guys see that when you evaluate these guys, 469 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 6: and how do you sort of weigh that. 470 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: I'd like to give you the general answered that, like, 471 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: because usually when people say that those are stereotyped, I 472 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: actually think that that's the one where there is some 473 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 2: truth to it. To be to be frank, and that's 474 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 2: not the case everywhere. Like it shouldn't be a blanking 475 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: statement for all college offense alignment because there are a 476 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: number of schools that do a really nice job of it. 477 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, I do I do think like as I 478 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: think about where that group was coming out, let's say 479 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 2: now versus you know, when I first started scouting in 480 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: the NFL, I do think that there is a difference. 481 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 10: You mentioned at the podium that this is kind of 482 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 10: like your first look at the draft class. It struck 483 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 10: me that we've we've developed outside opinions on the class. 484 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 10: For example, the quarterback class perceived as weak. 485 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: Teams have on met with them. 486 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 10: Yet, what do you think of that dichotomy that you 487 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 10: guys are doing this as the start and we have 488 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 10: all these preconceived It's a. 489 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: Great question, probably in fairness, when I say first look, 490 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 2: it's really more first interaction with the guys, Like, I'm 491 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: not going to sit up here and pretend that we 492 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: haven't done a lot of work on the prospects. I 493 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: think that there's a lot that gets said about the 494 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: draft class that it bothers us less as a like 495 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: from a team perspective, I actually think it's maybe a 496 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 2: little bit challenging for the prospects themselves that every nobody 497 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: knows what they're gonna do, where they're gonna go, what 498 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: you know, what they're gonna be. I mean, think about 499 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: the narrative around shudor a year ago this, you know, 500 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 2: year ago this time, and so I think like it's 501 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: super entertaining. It's what makes our sport great. It's it 502 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: keeps fans engage, get you guys your paychecks and everything 503 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: like that, But it's it can be tough at times 504 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: when at least there's there's misinformation out there, but it's look. 505 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 4: It's part of the fun, right and Andrew with tiring Mike Grutenberg, 506 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 4: I guess what what was it about him throughout that 507 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 4: process that you guys liked And how do you view 508 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 4: his knowledge of the system just coming up under Sala 509 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 4: and what he did in Atlanta. 510 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very knowledgeable. I think he's unique from the 511 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: perspective that he understands what an attacking front system looks like. 512 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 2: But if you also look at what he did in Atlanta, 513 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: you know he was a big part of that group, 514 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,719 Speaker 2: taking over a defense that was like about as far 515 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: away from attack as you can and almost creating this 516 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: hybrid that was really effective with the players that they had. 517 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 2: So between that, his coverage background is understanding of all 518 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 2: three levels of the defense. And when you guys get 519 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 2: a man a chance to meet him, like, I mean, 520 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: he's he's I hoock day now, he's like very very 521 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 2: high energy. It'll go really well if you move down 522 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: from six, would it be small or you're willing to 523 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 2: go what am I going to get for it? It 524 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: really depends Tony, I, you know, absolutely Andrew last one. 525 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 7: Ideally, would you guys like to head into training camp 526 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 7: knowing who your QB one is or at least having 527 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 7: a good idea, or do you envision, let's say it's 528 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 7: Deshaun and Shador, do you envision heading into camp with 529 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 7: an open sort of quarterback competition. 530 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: I think either scenario is fine. Mary Kay, I don't. 531 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know that I would handicap one 532 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: versus you know, one versus the other. I think we 533 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 2: have to be flexible to both situations. 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