WEBVTT - "Fantasy Sports" w/ Devon Walker 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:23.560 Podcast starts now, what's up everybody? You're listening to Stradio 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:26.160 Lab Live two weeks ago from New York City. 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:30.480 I almost feel like we should talk about the fact 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:32.640 that you are here for your wedding more because we 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:34.440 didn't talk about it in the previous episode, or am 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:36.960 I being so literal and we need to like let 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.839 go and let ideas come to us. 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:41.960 No, we can talk about it. 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.120 There's something about this moment being captured on tape where 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:46.239 I'm like, y'll wind up. 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:47.640 We listen to this one day. You know, this is 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:49.599 how I felt after Trump was elected the second time. 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:54.120 You flew in yesterday. 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.160 I flew in yesterday, and today's Tuesday, and you're getting 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:59.960 married on Saturday. Yeah, how are you feeling, Queen? 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:05.120 I feel normal. I'm feeling like like I do feel 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.720 a bit like like it's a solo show and I'm like, 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:11.120 oh god, oh god. Like there's just like logistics that 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:16.360 are sort of unknown until the day of where you're like, oh, 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.720 like what if someone weird shows up and they like. 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.200 Well, well we've had a couple of close calls folks, 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:26.279 and yeah. 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.080 Like what if it's really windy and and like the 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.080 something blows away or I don't know what I'm like, 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:36.280 there's like all these little things, but I'm and but 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:39.199 I'm mostly just excited. I think it'll be fun. Yeah, 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.040 I feel I think because I don't know if you 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.400 felt this way. Because we've been together so long, I 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.000 feel like, like, similarly to how we were talking about, 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.240 like how every gig on earth is open, and so 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:53.120 it's like is this more important or less important? There's 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.080 something about being together for so long where it doesn't 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.920 feel like, fuck it, we're taking a leap, Like it 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.960 just feels like, oh, we're sort of like doing what 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.440 was We're just like labeling it properly. 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.519 So this is actually similar to my sort of theory 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.600 about how there are two ways to come out. One 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.880 is to come out when you're still figuring it out 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:16.200 because you need support, and one is to first fully 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.720 figure out who you are and be like, and now 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.120 it's time for me to make my debut. Wow, what 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.360 did you do? I did the latter like, I yeah, yes, 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:26.600 very you. Yes, we've talked about this, but it's like 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:28.680 I remember when I came out to my parents. They 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:30.880 were hurt that I hadn't done it earlier because they 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:32.520 were like, did you think we wouldn't be supportive? Like 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.079 did you think did we create an environment that made 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.200 you think you couldn't tell us? And I was like no, 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.280 I just didn't want it to be at all a conversation. 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:43.440 I wanted to first fully like like have a boyfriend, 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.760 like have know exactly who I was and what I 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.040 wanted to tell you when you asked me what the 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:52.120 deal was, and then do it. And I think I 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:56.120 think for many for some people, especially some straight people, 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:00.280 marriages is almost like them taking a leap in being like, 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.960 let's hope this word, and like jumping off of the cliff. 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.079 And I think especially for gay guys getting married in 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.880 their thirties, it's sort of like, okay, what else, what else? 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:11.160 Let's get married. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.600 I have a question when it comes to vows what 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:19.000 level of humor are you working with? What level is appropriate? 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.919 What level is inappropriate? I don't know. 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.880 Should we bring in our guests to join us in 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:26.880 chatting about this? 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:30.360 Yes? Please welcome back to the podcast. Devin Walker. 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:32.240 Hey, what's up? I wasn't sure if I was allowed 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:32.639 to talk to you. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.600 Actually weren't, but I was, but you seem so eager 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.080 that I said, well. 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:38.680 I just couldn't. I was like, I'm sitting here. I 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:39.720 was like, am I waiting for this? 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:41.920 And also Sam looked over here a couple of times 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.160 this is this happens. 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.480 We can't help, but we want to be affirmed, but 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.840 we don't want the guests. It's like want. 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:52.200 O'side, Sam looking over being like, I'm like, I gotta 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:52.680 had him. 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:57.080 We want. We were just talking actually about the power 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.720 of nodding and how it can actually be almost condescending. 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:02.960 Like if you're in an especially in a business context. 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.400 Let's say you're like pitching something. You're like, so it's 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.680 about a gay guy, and then the exact is like 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:14.840 dramatically nodding, and you're like okay. But that's ultimately what 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:16.520 we want when we're doing our intro. We want someone 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:20.040 to be so aggressively supportive but also silent, yeah exactly, 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.400 like holding a sign that's like yeah, yeah no. 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.599 It's actually so pitiful when a guest is like really like, 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.599 I'm like, I'm like, we got this. 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.280 The worst, of course, is when we're on zoom and 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.400 someone's fully just on their phone. Oh yeah, they're just 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:40.000 like have some respect, please, clipping his nails like, oh 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:41.200 my god, did he clip his nails? 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:41.520 Yes? 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:45.320 Yeast say, I do do that every time I have therapy. 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.359 That's my time nail therapy earlier today, and that's my 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.359 clipping my nails time. Wow, I do FaceTime therapy. And 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.040 that I hope she's not disrespected. I never even considered 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:55.240 that she would be until right now. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.000 Here's a question for you. The problem what maybe she 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:01.200 thinks you're stimming makes you do FaceTime therapy in a 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:02.279 post COVID world. 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:04.560 My therapist lives in Texas. 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:09.359 Oh yeah, she's grandfathered in from from literally like childhood, 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:17.120 not from childhood. 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:14.200 They had a childhood. 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:15.520 Well, I'm just like, when was the last time you 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:16.280 lived in Texas? 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.400 Uh? Twenty eighteen? Oh oh, I didn't know that that 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.680 was so much more recent than I expected. 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:23.320 Oh yeah, do I just feel like I've been here 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:23.960 for a lot longer? 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:26.159 Yeah? Did you move to New York in twenty eighteen? 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.479 Yeah, that's shocking to me. Why I was sure you 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.680 were here at least twenty sixteen. Oh no, no, no, no, 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:33.320 no no no. I was in Austin, Texas. 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.719 I only lived in Central Texas for my whole life 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.599 until twenty eighteen. 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.760 So you have had the same therapist since twenty since 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:41.880 before twenty eighteen. 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:43.080 For she left for a little bit. 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:44.839 You know when you realize you like really don't know 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.920 anything about your therapist life. Yeah, I had this moment 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:51.040 because so we I had her in twenty eighteen. 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:52.000 Then I moved here. 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.160 Then I was too broke to afford therapy, so then 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:59.320 we stopped seeing each other. Uh, and then we started back. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.479 Like during the Pan Dimmic endemic, I was like, I 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.360 gotta go back to therapy. It's been like a year 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.400 and a half. I was like it's time. And I 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.440 like had a better job. I had my Comedy Central 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.320 money out, so I was like, yo. 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.320 Your guys' Comedy Central era. Now that was iconic. That 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:17.000 was that was legendary. That was like it was so insane, 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.880 it was. It's I think of that era the way 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.800 people talk about like nineties eighties New York like anything 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:24.840 was possible, what. 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:25.560 A free for all? 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:29.520 Truly Also like that that was my first job in comedy. 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:30.880 That was my first like full time. 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:32.640 That was my first full time job. Sure. That was 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:34.560 when I was like, Okay, I have income, yeah, like 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.479 I have like a salary. Yeah, yeah, and that felt good. 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.719 It was incredible. That was an incredible time. 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:41.680 It was the first time since I moved to New 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.719 York that I could like buy a plane ticket somewhere 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.479 and it didn't ruin my life financially. 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:48.919 Yeah, and of course there was nowhere to. 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:52.080 Go right exactly. Yeah, it was like where we're applying 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:56.240 to Yeah, texas a therapyt I did fly to text, 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:59.040 but anyway, my therapist, Yeah, I started back with. 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.400 Her during twenty two twenty and then I remember having 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.279 a conversation with her where she was just like, hey, 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.200 I actually need to go on maternity leave. She goes, 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:12.040 I'm about to have my second child, And I said, 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.520 I didn't know you were pregnant right now one and 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.960 I didn't know you had a first kid, much less second. 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:23.920 Anything underdiscussed element of remote work in general, that is 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:28.280 actually shocking the way you don't know that people are pregnant. 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.760 Had no clue. Are you supposed to know about your 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.400 therapist's life. I don't know. 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.240 I mean I think different people have like different relationships 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.840 with it. I've talked to people who like really seem 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.480 to know, like, oh yeah, my like therapist went on 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.880 vacation to here and like, you know, she recommended this 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.800 hotel or whatever. But like my therapist is like kind 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:51.280 of although I will say and I can't, man, I 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:51.760 don't want to. 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:53.120 I'm not I don't want to put too much of 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:53.960 her business out here. 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.360 But like one time, my therapist was just like, yeah, 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.840 like I was just I was telling her about some 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:01.840 feelings that I was having about like something, and she 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.880 was like, she goes, yeah, you know, I understand the 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:06.720 way that that kind of thinking. Look, I was basically 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:08.920 talking about like being around like really rich people for 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.680 the first time and like just not really knowing how 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:13.760 to acclimate to that. And she was like, yeah, I 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.640 know what you're talking about. She goes, my husband's family founded. 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:23.200 Uh, that's so fun. 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:35.400 That is really amazing. Found it. That's right, damn. 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:40.160 But also obviously like, yes, she's relating to you, Yes, 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:43.440 but it is different to marry into like you're talking about, 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.800 feeling like an outsider in a situation where people have 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.760 more money than you. That's different than marrying into that 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:54.200 generational wealth. It's like she actually now is a rich woman. 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:54.840 Yeah. 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:56.760 Yeah, it's it is like. 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:58.080 I'm sorry, but why work. 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.560 I I mean, I think she just like I mean, 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:02.920 because it's like you don't want to just sit in 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:04.000 you don't want to just say you. 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:05.559 Don't want to you don't want to be you guys 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:05.839 have it. 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.040 You would not stop working if you married the. 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:10.440 No, that's true, but my work would be so much 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:11.319 more glamorous. 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.280 What do you think your work would look like in that, Well. 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.360 It would be like like I would like still do 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.120 like comedy, but it would be like I wouldn't ever 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:20.920 like I wouldn't ever need to be successful in this way. 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.360 That would be like I'm throwing the big event at 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:23.719 like the. 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.040 Thing, Oh, I would only be doing Joe's pub. I 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.200 would be like I don't need to appeal to anyone 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.040 outside of Manhattan. 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:30.280 Yeah. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.080 It would allow you to be your freest self. 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.200 Yeah, creatively really like it doesn't matter kind of It's 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.319 like it's like being like a rich woman who starts 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:39.880 like a lotion line exactly. 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:47.679 That was really beautiful the way that the nunciation. 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:50.679 You would embrace having a boutique rather than having a 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.360 what's it called when someone's like franchise rather than having 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:54.600 a friend. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.720 I mean the short films I put out, yes, short 0:09:57.480 --> 0:09:58.720 truly would. 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.080 Be like baby I need twenty five thousand because I 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:01.880 got a story to tell. 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.600 Short films off and off Broadway around. You would fund 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:10.800 yourself easily six weeks. I would quite frankly fund the art. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.760 The Lincoln Center would be renamed the George Center. Let's 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:14.319 just say that. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:16.599 Okay, so you're marrying like a Rockefeller. 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:18.160 I'm sorry. 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.520 You're right, that's the same You're right, that's the same 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.400 type of Maybe. I just I think I can't even 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:28.000 quantify what that means. Yeah, in a family like that. 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.680 I love that because it's like a joke that I 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:32.400 feel like I used to make all the time, be 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.360 like and you know my father, the you know, CEO 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.480 of BP, And it's like, no, that is someone. It's 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.600 someone real that exists for someone and he's married to someone. 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:47.760 Wow, you know what I remember? I went to middle 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.240 school with this girl. I guess. I won't say what 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:51.880 the company was. I'll say it in a little bleep 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:58.240 it so, but should we bleep mine too? I'm like, so, 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.360 but here's the thing saw that that was her last name. 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.160 I was like, Oh, this girl is probably so rich. 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.240 And I was operating under that assumption the entire time. 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.720 Later on, many years later, I did a google. It 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:13.200 turns out her side of the family somehow was like 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.760 not the part that got the money. So this entire 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:17.960 time I was treating her like the spoiled rich girl. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.199 She was like fighting for her life and is now 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:25.320 like a struggling And the entire time I was like, 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:29.400 shut up, bitch, Like why are you speaking up in class? 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.680 Like you do not relate to that character in that novel. 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.520 No one cares that you have to say. And in fact, 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.200 it's actually even worse, I think, to have had access 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:39.880 to wealth and then lost it because you like know 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:40.480 what you're missing. 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.239 You've seen that other side. Damn Jesus. 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:45.600 Yeah, and that's actually the plot of Shit's Creak, my 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:46.880 favorite television series. 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.079 Okay, back to my original question, Yes, how much humor 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:52.199 is allowed in vows? 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:56.320 I'm like, go, I think I think it's not about 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:56.640 how much. 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.200 Yours was like you went full sincere. 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.120 I had some laughing. Wow, I had laughs. 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:06.760 Sam was like, Yeah, the thing about you is that 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:08.320 you didn't even feel the need to be funny, not 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:08.960 even a little bit. 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:10.360 I think it's not gonna drop. 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.319 What sounds referring to is that it ended on sincerity 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.400 rather than ending on a punchline that I tried to 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:19.640 have like, yeah, but I think my general answer to 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:23.800 you would be basically, there has to be at least 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.960 a moment of genuine sincerity, and then around that you 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.560 can have as much humor as possible. But what you 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.080 can do is not have any sincerity, of. 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.000 Course, because I want some sincerities like but I am 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:35.920 worried about it coming off as like and that's when 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.480 I knew I was gay. Like I'm worried about like 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:42.400 landing in cliches as you were talking about in a 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:43.840 way that I'm scared of. 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.640 I feel I have weddings a really fine time to 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:47.559 land in cliches. 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.760 Okay, I think that's I think. Yeah, I think there's 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:52.400 not gonna reinvent the wheel, you know what I mean. 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.320 I think there's only so many ways to tell someone 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:55.160 that you love them. 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.560 I agree with you. But the thing is, like there's 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.000 some cliches that are so unforgivable, you know what I mean, 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:04.160 Like some so that I don't say them my person, like 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:08.320 anything about love at first sight, like anything about like 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:11.959 I'm trying to think, like, oh, you know. 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.320 You have taste, You're not gonna let you're not gonna land. 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.720 Just yeah, you're not gonna it's because it doesn't Cliche 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:25.960 doesn't come naturally to your Other people have to fight cliche, 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.120 Like you don't have to fight cliche. I think that's 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:32.120 the I think that for many people, that's the instinct 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:33.280 just to go to cliches. So then you have to 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.320 train yourself out of it. But I think that's not 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:35.680 gonna be. 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.439 Yeah, yeah, well we're gonna find it, you know. Tonight, 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.720 I'm really gonna hunker down and get to write, and 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.240 I'm excited. Yeah, it's gonna be something. It's gonna be something. 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:49.800 I I think one way to maybe avoid cliche, and 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.040 I think I tried to do this when I did 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.160 mine is like there's an instinct to think about the past, 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.840 because it's like you have this instinct to be like, 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.360 how did we meet and did I know when? What 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.520 were the best moments in our relationship? And there should 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.720 obviously be some of that, but it actually is much 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:09.960 more interesting to talk about like how you envision the 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.120 future interesting, And I think that there are less there 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.280 are fewer cliches. I mean unless you literally go like 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.280 till death to us part, I think there are fewer 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.440 cliches when you're like imagining the future than there are 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.040 when you're like on our first date when you ordered 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.400 the ball and Z I knew you were the one 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:24.760 for me. 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.640 Sure, sure, for sure, definitely don't say it like that. 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:29.280 Well that's suddenly, don't. 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.280 When I'm imagining speaking, all I can hear is like 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:38.760 fake voice. It's being like, Misha, you are random. 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:43.240 One of my favorite cliches is remind me what your 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:44.120 middle what's your middle? 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:44.760 N Thompson. 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:48.240 One of my favorite cliches is okay, get ready, this 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:53.600 is me doing my vast Samuel Thompson Taggart starting with 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:57.200 the full name yes is so funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.120 yeah yeah, Because it's one of those things that you 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:05.080 are doing it almost to imply intimacy, and yet you 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.000 are calling someone by their legal name. It is distancing. 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:10.760 It's so crazy, you know what. 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.520 I Actually the biggest cliche that I find is being 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.560 like and someone who will always split an omelet with 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.200 me three in the morning, like that type. 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.480 Of thing, like I promise to always water the plants, 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:22.640 but not over water. 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:27.680 That's it, that's true. Well that's not. 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:30.360 But but the thing is you will have to do 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.160 one specific thing like that. That's like the entire joke 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.920 is the specificity of it, Like I'll. 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:40.120 Always eat the rice if you eat the beet exactly. 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:44.600 Yeah, it's that neighborhood. 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:49.720 Yeah, there's a way in which at some point everything 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.160 starts feeling like a cliche. And then and you will 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:54.120 get to that point. I'm sorry to tell you you will. 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.320 At some point you will pass it, but you will 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.440 get to that point where like, oh no, everything I'm 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.840 thinking sounds like it's from a rom com. 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.440 How did you? How long did it take for you? 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:09.120 I think you you have like initial writer's block and 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.200 then it sort of will pour out of you. Okay, 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.120 because and I actually think you should do it or 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.240 I did it like almost free writing style where I 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.400 was like it was almost like one run on sentence 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.880 because it is like a spoken thing, like I don't 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:23.040 you know, it doesn't have to be like a five 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:29.440 paragraph essay, right, right, But I have faith in conclusion. 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:30.320 In conclusion. 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.840 Wait, can I ask you who who was officiate? Is 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:35.000 there a comedian officiating? 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:36.920 Oh? Yes, maybe the number one comedian? 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:42.600 Interesting? Interesting because he was there the night we were 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.880 we met. I was at the Metropolitan Gay Bar with Julio. 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:46.680 When I met me. 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:47.800 The Metropolitan gay Bar. 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.520 I actually told my sister. She was like, where sounds Minny. 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.320 I was like Metropolitan, And we had this entire conversation 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.520 that I realized she thought it was at the met Museum. 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.200 She was like, that is so cool. Like, how do. 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:02.960 I will say on the invites? Mesha put like metropology 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.480 Infrinsley's gay Bar, and I was like, why did you 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:05.800 put it? 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.320 Though I thought about someone coming from out of town. 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.040 Well, yeah, I don't even think about that. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.359 I just went to a comedian wedding that was also 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.160 officiated by a comedian. I went to my buddy Andrew 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:23.280 Dismukes got married to his longtime girlfriend Ali. Yeah, you 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.440 guys know Ali. You guys know Andrew and Ally who 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.639 officiated it was a guy. He's an Austin comedian. We 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:32.280 all came up in Austin together years ago and he 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.719 is this guy named Mason, and he did he It 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:38.040 was really funny. I will say he was killing, but 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:40.440 he did do longer than both of them. 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:43.720 Mason did a smooth fifteen. 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:44.280 No. 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.360 He talked for a long long time in a way 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:47.720 that I. 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.919 Was like, Mason, maybe you'll hear this, but it's like, 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:52.159 I'll say this if we talk in real life. Like 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.040 he was like referencing like this like sketch series that 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.720 her and Ally did in like twenty twelve, and like 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.119 was really going into like I had this vision for 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.680 sketches and she thought about characters in this kind of 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:04.919 wayly fun and like really was like diving it. But 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.680 I will say getting laughs the entire time, Yeah, that's good. 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:09.720 But I will say I've never seen anyone do like 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:12.479 it felt like watching someone do actually do stand up 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:14.520 at a wedding in a way that I'm curious to 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:16.639 see what Julio's gonna gonna bring to it. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:18.240 I'm curious to see what well. 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.399 I ran into Julio a couple of days ago and 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.000 I was like, you know, have sometimes you have a 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:25.440 conversation with Julia and you leave with more questions than answers, 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.480 So of course I was like, I was like, so, like, 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:31.480