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Speaker 1: Podcast starts now, what's up everybody? You're listening to Stradio

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Speaker 1: Lab Live two weeks ago from New York City.

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Speaker 2: I almost feel like we should talk about the fact

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Speaker 2: that you are here for your wedding more because we

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Speaker 2: didn't talk about it in the previous episode, or am

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Speaker 2: I being so literal and we need to like let

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Speaker 2: go and let ideas come to us.

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Speaker 1: No, we can talk about it.

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Speaker 2: There's something about this moment being captured on tape where

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Speaker 2: I'm like, y'll wind up.

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Speaker 1: We listen to this one day. You know, this is

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Speaker 1: how I felt after Trump was elected the second time.

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Speaker 1: You flew in yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I flew in yesterday, and today's Tuesday, and you're getting

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Speaker 2: married on Saturday. Yeah, how are you feeling, Queen?

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Speaker 1: I feel normal. I'm feeling like like I do feel

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Speaker 1: a bit like like it's a solo show and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: oh god, oh god. Like there's just like logistics that

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Speaker 1: are sort of unknown until the day of where you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: like what if someone weird shows up and they like.

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Speaker 2: Well, well we've had a couple of close calls folks,

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Speaker 2: and yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like what if it's really windy and and like the

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Speaker 1: something blows away or I don't know what I'm like,

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Speaker 1: there's like all these little things, but I'm and but

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Speaker 1: I'm mostly just excited. I think it'll be fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel I think because I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: felt this way. Because we've been together so long, I

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Speaker 1: feel like, like, similarly to how we were talking about,

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Speaker 1: like how every gig on earth is open, and so

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Speaker 1: it's like is this more important or less important? There's

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Speaker 1: something about being together for so long where it doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel like, fuck it, we're taking a leap, Like it

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Speaker 1: just feels like, oh, we're sort of like doing what

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Speaker 1: was We're just like labeling it properly.

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Speaker 2: So this is actually similar to my sort of theory

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Speaker 2: about how there are two ways to come out. One

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Speaker 2: is to come out when you're still figuring it out

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Speaker 2: because you need support, and one is to first fully

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Speaker 2: figure out who you are and be like, and now

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Speaker 2: it's time for me to make my debut. Wow, what

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Speaker 2: did you do? I did the latter like, I yeah, yes,

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Speaker 2: very you. Yes, we've talked about this, but it's like

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Speaker 2: I remember when I came out to my parents. They

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Speaker 2: were hurt that I hadn't done it earlier because they

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Speaker 2: were like, did you think we wouldn't be supportive? Like

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Speaker 2: did you think did we create an environment that made

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Speaker 2: you think you couldn't tell us? And I was like no,

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Speaker 2: I just didn't want it to be at all a conversation.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to first fully like like have a boyfriend,

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Speaker 2: like have know exactly who I was and what I

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Speaker 2: wanted to tell you when you asked me what the

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Speaker 2: deal was, and then do it. And I think I

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Speaker 2: think for many for some people, especially some straight people,

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Speaker 2: marriages is almost like them taking a leap in being like,

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Speaker 2: let's hope this word, and like jumping off of the cliff.

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Speaker 2: And I think especially for gay guys getting married in

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Speaker 2: their thirties, it's sort of like, okay, what else, what else?

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Speaker 2: Let's get married.

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Speaker 1: I have a question when it comes to vows what

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Speaker 1: level of humor are you working with? What level is appropriate?

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Speaker 1: What level is inappropriate? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Should we bring in our guests to join us in

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Speaker 2: chatting about this?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Please welcome back to the podcast. Devin Walker.

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's up? I wasn't sure if I was allowed

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Speaker 3: to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Actually weren't, but I was, but you seem so eager

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Speaker 2: that I said, well.

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Speaker 1: I just couldn't. I was like, I'm sitting here. I

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Speaker 1: was like, am I waiting for this?

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Speaker 4: And also Sam looked over here a couple of times

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Speaker 4: this is this happens.

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Speaker 2: We can't help, but we want to be affirmed, but

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Speaker 2: we don't want the guests. It's like want.

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Speaker 4: O'side, Sam looking over being like, I'm like, I gotta

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Speaker 4: had him.

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Speaker 2: We want. We were just talking actually about the power

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Speaker 2: of nodding and how it can actually be almost condescending.

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Speaker 2: Like if you're in an especially in a business context.

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Speaker 2: Let's say you're like pitching something. You're like, so it's

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Speaker 2: about a gay guy, and then the exact is like

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Speaker 2: dramatically nodding, and you're like okay. But that's ultimately what

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Speaker 2: we want when we're doing our intro. We want someone

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Speaker 2: to be so aggressively supportive but also silent, yeah exactly,

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Speaker 2: like holding a sign that's like yeah, yeah no.

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Speaker 1: It's actually so pitiful when a guest is like really like,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, we got this.

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Speaker 2: The worst, of course, is when we're on zoom and

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Speaker 2: someone's fully just on their phone. Oh yeah, they're just

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Speaker 2: like have some respect, please, clipping his nails like, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, did he clip his nails?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yeast say, I do do that every time I have therapy.

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Speaker 4: That's my time nail therapy earlier today, and that's my

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Speaker 4: clipping my nails time. Wow, I do FaceTime therapy. And

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Speaker 4: that I hope she's not disrespected. I never even considered

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Speaker 4: that she would be until right now.

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Speaker 2: Here's a question for you. The problem what maybe she

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Speaker 2: thinks you're stimming makes you do FaceTime therapy in a

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Speaker 3: My therapist lives in Texas.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she's grandfathered in from from literally like childhood,

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Speaker 4: not from childhood.

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Speaker 1: They had a childhood.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just like, when was the last time you

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Speaker 1: Uh? Twenty eighteen? Oh oh, I didn't know that that

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, do I just feel like I've been here

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Speaker 3: for a lot longer?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Did you move to New York in twenty eighteen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's shocking to me. Why I was sure you

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Speaker 1: were here at least twenty sixteen. Oh no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no no no. I was in Austin, Texas.

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Speaker 4: I only lived in Central Texas for my whole life

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Speaker 4: until twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: So you have had the same therapist since twenty since

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Speaker 2: before twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 3: For she left for a little bit.

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Speaker 4: You know when you realize you like really don't know

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Speaker 3: Then I moved here.

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Speaker 4: Then I was too broke to afford therapy, so then

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Speaker 4: we stopped seeing each other. Uh, and then we started back.

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Speaker 4: Like during the Pan Dimmic endemic, I was like, I

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Speaker 4: like had a better job. I had my Comedy Central

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Speaker 2: Your guys' Comedy Central era. Now that was iconic. That

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Speaker 2: was that was legendary. That was like it was so insane,

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Speaker 1: A free for all?

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Speaker 4: Truly Also like that that was my first job in comedy.

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Speaker 4: That was my first like full time.

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Speaker 1: That was my first full time job. Sure. That was

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Speaker 1: when I was like, Okay, I have income, yeah, like

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Speaker 1: I have like a salary. Yeah, yeah, and that felt good.

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Speaker 3: It was incredible. That was an incredible time.

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Speaker 4: It was the first time since I moved to New

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Speaker 2: Go right exactly. Yeah, it was like where we're applying

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Speaker 2: to Yeah, texas a therapyt I did fly to text,

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Speaker 4: Her during twenty two twenty and then I remember having

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Speaker 4: I actually need to go on maternity leave. She goes,

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Speaker 4: I'm about to have my second child, And I said,

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Speaker 4: I didn't know you were pregnant right now one and

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Speaker 4: I didn't know you had a first kid, much less second.

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Speaker 2: Anything underdiscussed element of remote work in general, that is

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Speaker 2: actually shocking the way you don't know that people are pregnant.

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Speaker 1: Had no clue. Are you supposed to know about your

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Speaker 1: therapist's life. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think different people have like different relationships

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Speaker 4: to know, like, oh yeah, my like therapist went on

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Speaker 4: of although I will say and I can't, man, I

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Speaker 3: I'm not I don't want to put too much of

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Speaker 4: But like one time, my therapist was just like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: was like, she goes, yeah, you know, I understand the

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Speaker 4: talking about like being around like really rich people for

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Speaker 4: know what you're talking about. She goes, my husband's family founded.

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Speaker 2: Uh, that's so fun.

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Speaker 1: That is really amazing. Found it. That's right, damn.

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Speaker 2: But also obviously like, yes, she's relating to you, Yes,

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Speaker 2: but it is different to marry into like you're talking about,

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Speaker 2: feeling like an outsider in a situation where people have

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Speaker 2: generational wealth. It's like she actually now is a rich woman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it is like.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but why work.

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Speaker 4: I I mean, I think she just like I mean,

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Speaker 4: because it's like you don't want to just sit in

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Speaker 4: you don't want to just say you.

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Speaker 1: Don't want to you don't want to be you guys

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Speaker 2: You would not stop working if you married the.

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Speaker 1: No, that's true, but my work would be so much

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Speaker 3: What do you think your work would look like in that, Well.

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Speaker 1: It would be like like I would like still do

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Speaker 1: like I wouldn't ever need to be successful in this way.

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Speaker 1: That would be like I'm throwing the big event at

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Speaker 2: Thing, Oh, I would only be doing Joe's pub. I

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Speaker 2: would be like I don't need to appeal to anyone

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Speaker 2: outside of Manhattan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It would allow you to be your freest self.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, creatively really like it doesn't matter kind of It's

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Speaker 4: like it's like being like a rich woman who starts

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Speaker 4: like a lotion line exactly.

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Speaker 1: That was really beautiful the way that the nunciation.

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Speaker 2: You would embrace having a boutique rather than having a

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Speaker 2: what's it called when someone's like franchise rather than having

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Speaker 1: I mean the short films I put out, yes, short

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Speaker 1: truly would.

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Speaker 4: Be like baby I need twenty five thousand because I

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Speaker 4: got a story to tell.

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Speaker 2: Short films off and off Broadway around. You would fund

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Speaker 2: yourself easily six weeks. I would quite frankly fund the art.

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Speaker 2: The Lincoln Center would be renamed the George Center. Let's

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you're marrying like a Rockefeller.

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Speaker 2: Like you do not relate to that character in that novel.

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Speaker 3: You've seen that other side. Damn Jesus.

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Speaker 1: Yours was like you went full sincere.

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Speaker 2: What sounds referring to is that it ended on sincerity

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Speaker 2: Just yeah, you're not gonna it's because it doesn't Cliche

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Speaker 2: Like you don't have to fight cliche. I think that's

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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, for sure, definitely don't say it like that.

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Speaker 3: Well that's suddenly, don't.

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Speaker 1: When I'm imagining speaking, all I can hear is like

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite cliches is remind me what your

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite cliches is okay, get ready, this

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Speaker 2: Of thing, like I promise to always water the plants,

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Speaker 1: That's it, that's true. Well that's not.

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Speaker 4: Always eat the rice if you eat the beet exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: At some point you will pass it, but you will

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Speaker 1: How did you? How long did it take for you?

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Speaker 2: I think you you have like initial writer's block and

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Speaker 4: Wait, can I ask you who who was officiate? Is

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Speaker 4: there a comedian officiating?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, maybe the number one comedian?

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Speaker 1: Interesting? Interesting because he was there the night we were

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Speaker 3: The Metropolitan gay Bar.

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Speaker 2: I actually told my sister. She was like, where sounds Minny.

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Speaker 1: I will say on the invites? Mesha put like metropology

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I don't even think about that.

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Speaker 4: I just went to a comedian wedding that was also

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Speaker 3: Mason did a smooth fifteen.

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Speaker 3: He talked for a long long time in a way

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Speaker 2: You haven't thought about that? That's the number one thing.

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Speaker 2: The number one thing with officiating, especially if you're like

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Speaker 1: Was so funny. We talked on the phone this weekend

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Speaker 2: Well the other thing, you know, he is going to

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Speaker 2: it's going to be interesting, it's going to be great.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to make sure. I forget who I was

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Speaker 4: Somebody who lives in LA who's flying out of here

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, bra Met Yeah, is she really good? No?

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Speaker 1: I could see a world in which all cross paths

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Speaker 2: like late at coming out of an uber. Sorry, guys, Jesus,

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Speaker 2: keep going, keep going. Sorry, I just fleming from Tel Aviv.

442
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Speaker 4: Okay, Oh she's doing that, oh big time. Oh I

443
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Speaker 4: see I didn't.

444
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Speaker 2: Do our first segment.

445
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Speaker 1: Let's do our first segment, Devin. Our first segment is

446
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 1: called straight Shooters, and in this segment, we're going to

447
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 1: ask you a series of rapifier questions to gage your

448
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 1: familiarity with and complicity in a straight culture. It's basically

449
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Speaker 1: this thing or this other thing. And the only rule

450
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,400
Speaker 1: is you can't ask any follo up questions or we'll

451
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Speaker 1: scream at you not that you need to be reminded, George.

452
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Speaker 2: Kickassow the Big Bang or the one and only Bowen

453
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Speaker 2: Yang and Yang, protecting.

454
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Speaker 1: Your data or forgetting your true Veda.

455
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Speaker 2: Forgetting your true beda. Oh wow, I don't know what

456
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Speaker 2: that means. You shouldn't have said you don't know what

457
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Speaker 2: it means. Does the carpet match the drapes? Or going

458
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Speaker 2: to the market to buy some grapes?

459
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,959
Speaker 3: Going to the market to buy some grapes.

460
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Speaker 1: Okay, this one's tough because it actually needs voice work that.

461
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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm qualified to do this. It's just

462
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: like my ears still unpopped from the flight yesterday, So

463
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Speaker 1: like I'm not working with like the full register f

464
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Speaker 1: K twigs or South Park teacher voice. Okay, I can't

465
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Speaker 1: do it.

466
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Speaker 2: I want to kill You're doing a great job.

467
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Speaker 1: I can't do it, George, I can't do it. I

468
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 1: can't do it. George.

469
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Speaker 3: You want to you want to give it?

470
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Speaker 2: What work?

471
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Speaker 1: Guys. I need to listen to it, Guys, I just

472
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Speaker 1: have to listen to it, if anyone could. Okay, here's

473
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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Here's what I'm gonna say.

474
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll put it in f K Twigs or good kids,

475
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 2: and then you put it in a.

476
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Speaker 1: Post because this is but say what it is? Okay, kids?

477
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Speaker 2: Okay?

478
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Speaker 1: And I wrote this on the train, thinking, you know,

479
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: when the cameras are on, maybe something you'll find it.

480
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 1: And then I said, I've never found something when the

481
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Speaker 1: cameras are on. If I can't find it secretly in private,

482
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Speaker 1: I can't find it when the cameras are on.

483
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you do have to choose.

484
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go K Twigs.

485
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Speaker 2: Wow, the coward's choice. You didn't want to do that,

486
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Speaker 2: K kids, I really didn't. Okay.

487
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Speaker 1: I didn't really grow up watching south Park.

488
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Speaker 2: This is the second This is the second time we talked.

489
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Speaker 2: I also didn't grow up watching south Park. Okay. And

490
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Speaker 2: I did denim on denim or bend it like Beckham.

491
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Speaker 1: Okay, this one's really hard. J Street metro tech or

492
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Speaker 1: Old King WinCE Sloss.

493
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's good.

494
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: I've got to go Jay Street.

495
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Speaker 2: Real politic or fake plastic trees.

496
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Speaker 1: Real politic? Okay, Ranked choice voting or staying face emoting

497
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Speaker 1: stank face emoting?

498
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Speaker 2: Wow?

499
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: Wow?

500
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 2: Is fake plastic trees? Radiohead?

501
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Speaker 1: Honey, you're the one that wrote it.

502
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Speaker 2: It's one.

503
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Speaker 1: Do you not? Is it not? No?

504
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Speaker 3: That was never mind. I guess I'm not supposed to say,

505
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Speaker 3: but I was. Yeah, go ahead, is.

506
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Speaker 2: That not a recognizable I think it's Radiohead, but I

507
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Speaker 2: don't know.

508
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Speaker 3: Okay, now you're it sounds like none of us is

509
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Speaker 3: me and you're a straight shooter.

510
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Speaker 1: To me.

511
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Speaker 2: You know when something is just like you know the

512
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: I've known that phrase since I was like twelve, and

513
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 2: it's because it's an album title.

514
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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you google it? Right? The se No?

515
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, okay, we have to rank Devin's performance

516
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Speaker 2: on a scale of zero to one thousand doves.

517
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Speaker 1: Here's what I will say.

518
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Speaker 2: Yes, I think we were really experimenting, definitely. I mean

519
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Speaker 2: I don't even know what half the things that Okay, cool.

520
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 3: I'm glad we're in the same boat because we felt.

521
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: So comfortable with you being here. Yes, that's right, and

522
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: we just knew that you'd crush it. So I'm gonna

523
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Speaker 1: go ahead and say that you get what you were

524
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: an amazing recipient of our fucking bullshit.

525
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: No, that's interesting. I actually disagree, have to disagree. I

526
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: actually think you know, Devin, you're sitting there sort of

527
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: like cool, guy, there's like a sort of cool guy energy.

528
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,719
Speaker 2: You're kind of like looking at us, like, what the

529
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 2: hell are these guys talking about? Like even when Sam

530
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 2: did the South Park thing, you're not you know, you're

531
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Speaker 2: not showing the vulnerability of attempting to say k kids.

532
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 2: You're sort of just like removed. You're being removed. Yeah,

533
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 2: and and and then it makes us feel exposed and naked.

534
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Speaker 1: I see wow.

535
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Speaker 2: And so I would say, however, I think you did

536
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Speaker 2: pretty good. So I think I'm gonna.

537
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Speaker 1: He deserves to be rewarded for playing and winning a

538
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: power game? Did he? Oh? I see?

539
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: Okay? Right right, so you humulate us on our own show,

540
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: and that is when it is okay. So I guess

541
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Speaker 2: I would say, I would say it's a solid eight seventy.

542
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: Wow.

543
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 2: And that's my final answer. So the average of that

544
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: is around is nine thirty something like that. Yeah, sure,

545
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: I'm happy with that. So that's pretty good. That's an

546
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Speaker 2: as that's high a minus. Actually better than I did

547
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: in school normally. I don't believe that. Were you not

548
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Speaker 2: a good student.

549
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Speaker 3: I was a decent I just I didn't care that much.

550
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys related, well, I Tay,

551
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Speaker 4: I take you for being a really good student.

552
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Speaker 3: You do seem like you made really good grades. Sam,

553
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Speaker 3: I was a good student.

554
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Speaker 2: Sam was a good student.

555
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Speaker 3: I could see. I see it for you guys.

556
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Speaker 2: You remember one time we can take this out if

557
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Speaker 2: it's easy to identify the person. One time Sam found

558
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Speaker 2: out someone we know got seas in high school. And

559
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Speaker 2: Sam was literally like, I mean, can you imagine getting seasons?

560
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: Okay school, but it's like someone who's like whole thing

561
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Speaker 1: is like super silly and goofy. And so when I

562
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Speaker 1: found out that got season high school, I was like, oh,

563
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: you're not like you're not coming with the form.

564
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 2: You're like you're just dumb.

565
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Speaker 1: You're just kind of a dumb person.

566
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Speaker 2: No, this was I I remember that because and it

567
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Speaker 2: really like brought this person down in your estimation, because

568
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Speaker 2: correct me, because you were like because Sam thought, this

569
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 2: is like this person's like Andy Kaufman esque, like so

570
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 2: smart that he's like kind of his silliness and his

571
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: whimsical humor is like making fun of the human condition.

572
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Speaker 2: And then after Sam found out that this person got

573
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Speaker 2: season high school, I was like, oh, wait, so you're

574
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: just kind of like a dufis well, but.

575
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Speaker 4: To be fair, I bet you Andy Kaufman got seasoned

576
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 4: high school as well.

577
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Speaker 2: So this is interesting, right. So there's two ways you

578
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: can get season in high school. Either you're like not

579
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: made for the American educational system and you're like such

580
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Speaker 2: a genius that you get sees happens, or you're literally

581
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: like smoking weed yeah, or you just like.

582
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Speaker 1: I don't know that I got no.

583
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Speaker 4: I think I probably got to see in uh calculus,

584
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 4: I probably that was That was never the life for me,

585
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Speaker 4: But I will say with me in high school, I

586
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 4: was pretty much I was like a mid be to

587
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Speaker 4: like a low a student. But it was genuinely like

588
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Speaker 4: I don't know if y'all well, y'all clearly didn't feel

589
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Speaker 4: this way, but Junia was like I think I'm gonna

590
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 4: be okay one way or another. I always I really

591
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 4: just had a belief that I was like, I don't

592
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 4: know that. I'm like, I'm not made for academia. I

593
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 4: can make it through school. I like got through grad school,

594
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 4: like I was like I can do all this stuff.

595
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Speaker 4: But I was like, I just don't think that any

596
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Speaker 4: of what I'm learning right now is like I don't

597
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna like.

598
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Speaker 3: Really influence where I go. I felt the way once

599
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Speaker 3: I was in college.

600
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Speaker 1: Sure, in high school, I was like, the pressure's on,

601
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Speaker 1: like you gotta get good grades to get into college whatever.

602
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 3: I wish I was like that.

603
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Speaker 1: But once I was in college, I was like, this

604
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Speaker 1: is all a victory lab. Yeah, this was like what.

605
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Speaker 2: Are we doing. I would even say, I'll.

606
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Speaker 1: Learn enough of it.

607
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Speaker 3: I just took my grade.

608
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Speaker 1: I was. Yeah.

609
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Speaker 3: I was just like, I'm not going to stress myself.

610
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Speaker 3: I was like, I'll I'll do fine in life somehow.

611
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

612
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Speaker 2: I would even say I was at the best. I

613
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 2: was at my best and most hard working and probably

614
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: like legitimately sixth grade. And then after that, it's almost

615
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: like you want to see how little you can do

616
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Speaker 2: while maintaining the status of a good student. Like I

617
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: was like, oh, okay, so if I study a half

618
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: hour less, I'm basically still getting an A or mine

619
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: is like, and how how what is the equation where

620
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Speaker 2: I can still basically have the reputation of being smart,

621
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: the reputation of being a good student without going above him.

622
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Speaker 2: And I would say I'm still doing that today, bless.

623
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Speaker 1: Oh you're good at it. We always know. That's the

624
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: difference is that he can perform like the intelligence like

625
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Speaker 1: spot On, Like if asked to give a presentation about

626
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: a topic doesn't know right now, he could do it

627
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: and like I have to like sit with it for

628
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Speaker 1: a while.

629
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Speaker 2: I can. Here's what I can do. I can.

630
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Speaker 4: Actually, that's how we got into the Comedy Central program.

631
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: Literally it's for people like us.

632
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: I would say I can successfully bullshit the personality of

633
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: someone who doesn't bullshit. I mean that, do you know

634
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: what I mean?

635
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's maybe one of the greatest gift, Yeah,

636
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 4: anyone could be given.

637
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: Like I can actually go enter a room and my

638
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: entire performance is out of someone who's like, let's cut

639
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: the crap here, but I'm unprepared and don't know what

640
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.

641
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 4: That's incredible because I also, I think I'm pretty good

642
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 4: at bullshitting. But I think I do think that people

643
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 4: people see people would be like, oh, he's bullshitting. But

644
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 4: I do think that I can like charm my way

645
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: into them being like oh, but it's it's kind of

646
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 4: sweet that he's like bullshading his way through this. But

647
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 4: you're actually like you can act as if you really

648
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: knew what we were talking.

649
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: About my best you know, not always, but I do

650
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: think when I'm really focused, I can.

651
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I think I think you can.

652
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: Thinks that's like some like catch me if you can shit. Yeah, well,

653
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: but it's like never with things that matter, like sure,

654
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: because I actually when I'm in the presence of someone

655
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Speaker 2: who legitimately has more power than me, I crack under

656
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: the pressure.

657
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. It takes me like a long time of being

658
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: like above someone, yeah intellectually to be like, oh I

659
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: love you intellectually, Like it takes me like six months

660
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: because then I'm like, because I'm like, what if what

661
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: if the last three month was a fluke, like and

662
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: they're actually still better?

663
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: They catch up to me?

664
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

665
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Should we get into our topic?

666
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: I think we should, Devin, what topic have you brought

667
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: for us today?

668
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 4: The topic that I brought today was fantasy sports. That's

669
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: my straight topic. Fantasy sports.

670
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: Yes, one of the straightest things in the world to me.

671
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: It is it is It's like sometimes there are these

672
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: topics that are so straight that I almost don't know

673
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: what to say about them because it's so self evident

674
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: that it's like the like the only people who would

675
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: play fantasy sports are a very specific kind of I

676
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: would say, physically abusive.

677
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: Well, I want you to fill us in on like

678
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: your your history with fantasy sports.

679
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I grew up in Texas. I went to

680
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 4: the high school where they shot Friday Night Lights. And

681
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: so it's like the TV show, not the movie. Okay,

682
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 4: you did you ever see the TV show?

683
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: You know? I didn't, But I know about coach Taylor. Taylor,

684
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: and I know Connie Britton.

685
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 4: Right, masterful performance. Yeah, beautiful exhibit of lovel on television.

686
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: Yes, it is really nice, and I know that it

687
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: means a lot to a lot of people.

688
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I tried to watch it once.

689
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just didn't click, didn't resonate with you.

690
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: No, here's what I say about Friday Night Lights. Something

691
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: extremely foreign to me as someone who doesn't have American

692
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 2: parents is the idea that high school sports matter like

693
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: it is so. And I'm not saying that in a

694
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: I'm better than that way or anything like. Legitimately, it's

695
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: like a cultural thing I don't get, Like, I cannot

696
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: imagine my parents watching me play a sport in high

697
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: school and being like this, he'd better do well here

698
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: who it just because it was so much about academics

699
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: and everything else was a distraction. I don't even think

700
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: they knew that the college system, for example, rewarded athletics.

701
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: Like I don't think they knew that I could have

702
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 2: gotten a scholarship, let's say, if I was good at

703
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: a sport. I just don't think that was like in

704
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: their world, and so it just was something that was

705
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: so foreign to me. I can remember when we lived

706
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: in America, I was like on the swim team. I

707
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: was not very good, and they would like come to

708
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: the meets and other parents would be like trembling, like

709
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: writing down their kids' stats, and my parents would just

710
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: be fully reading a magazine like not, this is just

711
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: like some little stuff. It's like a favor they're doing

712
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: for me. So that is why I have never been

713
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: able to like get on board with the college or

714
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: high school sports. Movie. But you grew up in Texas,

715
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: You went to the high school from Friday night lights.

716
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 4: I did so all that to say, like I really

717
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 4: grew up like seeped in Yeah, some of the straightest

718
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: culture that's available to us, and I played high school football,

719
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 4: and so like I think I just was setting myself

720
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 4: on a path.

721
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: I didn't know that I wanted to be an artist.

722
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: I didn't know I wanted to be a creative and

723
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 4: not because like it was something that was told to

724
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 4: me was like inaccessible. It genuinely just like didn't occur

725
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 4: to me because no one that I was around did

726
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 4: that at all, and so like I was kind of

727
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 4: just on a I was kind of just like, all right,

728
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: I guess I'll like go to college and then just

729
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 4: like get a cubicle job, and like that's what I did.

730
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: Graduated from college.

731
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,239
Speaker 4: I like got this like job in the sale like

732
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 4: generating leads for a sales department, and that was my

733
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 4: first experience like doing fantasy football, and somehow I ended

734
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 4: up in like six different fantasy football leagues when I

735
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 4: was like working at this sales office.

736
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: And so were they with your colleagues?

737
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: They were with like colleagues.

738
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 4: And then by that point, I no, I hadn't even

739
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 4: started comedy yet, So yeah, I guess it just would

740
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 4: have been like guys I went to high school in

741
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 4: college with and then like in Austin in or like

742
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 4: I went to college right outside of Austin, like probably

743
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 4: like forty minutes outside of town. And yeah, My first

744
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: job was at the sales place, which was in Austin,

745
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 4: and yeah, I just was playing. I would be on

746
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 4: like four different fantasy football teams, which is like genuinely

747
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 4: something that you have to like, It's a thing you

748
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 4: have to adjust all the time because like guys are

749
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 4: constantly like you have to account for injuries and so

750
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 4: like if if a guy gets hurt playing football, which

751
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 4: happens in the real world, in the real world, huh

752
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 4: do you guys? How what is your familiarity with phantasy?

753
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: Relatively?

754
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it has been explained to me, both

755
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: by guests on this podcast and by people in my

756
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: real life, because.

757
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: I'm kind of assuming that you're coming in with knowledge,

758
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: but that might well.

759
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: Players from any team, so there are but but you

760
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: are part of when you're in a fantasy league.

761
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: Yes, how many people are in the entire fantasy league depends,

762
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: okay that that can vary. And you're making your own team.

763
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 2: You're not like in charge of the Cowboys.

764
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 4: You're not in charge of the Cowboys. You are just

765
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 4: you are drafting individual players. Okay, you're in charge of

766
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 4: the Georgi's I see, yes exactly, or it could literally yes,

767
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 4: if they were doing comedians, they could be like it

768
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 4: could be every comedian in New York City and it

769
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 4: could be like, all right, there's literally like guys whose

770
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 4: job it is to like do fantasy projections for like

771
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 4: who's supposed to score the most points based on what

772
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 4: they did last year? And the points are like, you know,

773
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 4: be like how many touchdowns they catch? Every touchdowns worth

774
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 4: this many points every time they like like catch a

775
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 4: pass that's worth a certain amount.

776
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 2: Of But then explain to me how the real world

777
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: relates to the fantasyeries.

778
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: It's what happens in the game. It happens in your fantasy.

779
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: Even though the even though the people playing are in

780
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: a different team.

781
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 3: Well, but you can draft players from any team, yes,

782
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 3: in the.

783
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 4: Entire so it's like, yeah, you could get this guy

784
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 4: from the Cowboys, this guy from the Giants, this guy

785
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 4: from the Jets, and that constitutes your team, and their

786
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 4: performance adds up to points, which is how you win

787
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 4: the game.

788
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: Like if you die in the game, you die in

789
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: real life.

790
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: No, no, totally, but I guess my question is more like,

791
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: let's say one of your players in the real world, yes,

792
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: wins against one of your other players.

793
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. Wins and losses don't really matter. It's

794
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 4: only statistics. Oh, it's only like rushing yards, passing yards,

795
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 4: you know for basketball, three point shots made, like total

796
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 4: points rebounds, like only counting statistics go towards.

797
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, the actual wins and losses don't matter at all.

798
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: So it's like fan fiction. Yeah, interesting, because it is.

799
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 2: It's like Draco and Harry fucking is the same. You're

800
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: having the characters.

801
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 3: This is this is way cooler.

802
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: Well, no, because because it's because it is.

803
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 4: Like based on it's not fiction, like it is based

804
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 4: on like the actual.

805
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: No, no, totally. But then but then the teams are fiction, yes, industry,

806
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: it's like the.

807
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 3: Teams are all made up, the teams are all created.

808
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying.

809
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: Here's I think characters are real in the same way

810
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: that Harry Potter is real.

811
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 1: But I think that's where we isn't Harry Potter's not, No, Devin,

812
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: He's real. It's like confusing because you're just picking people

813
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: to monitor their stats, and like, I don't see the

814
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: joy and.

815
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 3: I would agree with you.

816
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: I would.

817
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: This is my big question. I'm like, where does the creativity,

818
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 2: Where does the narrative. Where does the narrative come in?

819
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 4: I don't know that it exists, because that's why it's

820
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: such a straight activity. Yes, there's no story, there's no whimsy.

821
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 4: It is all like it's just numbers and like facts.

822
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: There is no.

823
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 4: The only and it's also like yeah you're yeah, it

824
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 4: doesn't exist.

825
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,479
Speaker 2: It's also gambling like it is. It is literally like.

826
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 3: This ties into gambling very very closely.

827
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: It is tracking what has already happened and then guessing

828
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: based on that what could happen.

829
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: Yes, I have something to ask, go ahead, gambling related.

830
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: Do you know any gay guys who are like addicted

831
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: to gambling?

832
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a really question, a really good.

833
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: Question, because I've never met a single gay guy who's like,

834
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: I actually had a gambling addiction, whereas like in the

835
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: straight community, it's like seems relatively normal.

836
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 3: I've seen people like run into real issues.

837
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, where I like, especially now that it's like

838
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: now that you can just do it on your phone

839
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 4: and now that it's like I know several people who

840
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 4: I've seen like get seriously addicted to gambling.

841
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: That's wild. Quite a few comedians actually, really, oh, this

842
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: is very common. I was.

843
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 4: I won't say his name, but I went to a

844
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 4: World Series game with someone that I'm a friend I'm

845
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 4: friends with, and he was betting on balls and strikes.

846
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 3: He was literally betting like.

847
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 4: Pitch by pitch, I think this pitch will be a

848
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 4: ball of this picture like real like crackhead behavior. It's

849
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 4: really it's really concerning. I know a lot of guys

850
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 4: who are addicted to gambling. That's big into straight cold Damn,

851
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 4: that's something we could have talked.

852
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: No, that's like I'm a rewards gambling and this is

853
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: really like I'm trying to think, like what I'm trying

854
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: to think, just thinking just in broad stereotypes, what kind

855
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 2: of gay guy would get into gambling?

856
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: I and I really really because like I remember like

857
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: going to a casino for the first time and being like, okay,

858
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: like maybe this will hit. Like I remember when I

859
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: had my first two beers. I was like, oh this

860
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: is clicking. I see my people lose their lives to this.

861
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: Like I'm all in, Okay, well, I here's what I'm picturing.

862
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: The I was like, I feel nothing.

863
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: I'm so bored.

864
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: I need to get out of here.

865
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: Here's what I'm picturing. Gay guy. Uh, really intense facelift,

866
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: really intense hairline, hair plugs, kind of a leather blazer

867
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: in a casino. He's doing just the slots, the slots, sure,

868
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: and he's drinking a you know, bourbon Manhattan.

869
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see that.

870
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,479
Speaker 3: You think this is this is Southern man.

871
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: I would say Southern. Yeah, I was at saying New Orleans,

872
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 2: but that's not quite it. I could see him being Southern.

873
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 2: I could also see it being more of a what's

874
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 2: the New Jersey? Oh my god, what's in New Jersey?

875
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: Atlantic City? More of an Atlantic City type, someone from

876
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: like a smaller town in New Jersey or Pennsylvania or

877
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 2: something like that. Really, he's like the the one gig

878
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: guy in the town, and then his.

879
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 3: In the town in the way that I'm imagining it.

880
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly. And he's always wearing a fun shirt, yes,

881
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: fun floral shirt. But then his terry solo weekend is

882
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 2: like going to Atlantic City and hitting the slots.

883
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've clated a picture on picture.

884
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you've definitely made a narrative. But I'm still

885
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: unclear on whether he's realm hmm.

886
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: Like we've I've never known him, like Harry suddenly on

887
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: his side, Like.

888
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 4: I'm just like I could I could see this made existing,

889
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: but like, yeah, I've never come across him in my

890
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 4: I've never seen him in my world.

891
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: I think like he needs his own a twenty four movie,

892
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: Like I think this really could well, it's very.

893
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: Calling Baker a gay guy with a with a leather

894
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: a burgundy leather blazer.

895
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: Actually not a twenty four Neon. Oh it needs to

896
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Speaker 1: be gone.

897
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and get it on.

898
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 2: One of the running jokes in this pod that no

899
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: one cares about us being like, no, that's not a

900
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: twenty four that's me.

901
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: That's very funny.

902
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 4: Have you have you have you created a delineation as

903
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 4: to what well, I just think people people use. First

904
00:40:58,840 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 4: of all, I just want to say it to all

905
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 4: our ends antwenty four. We support you and we literally

906
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 4: love your work project and we would love to be

907
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 4: part of your work. But I think it started when

908
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 4: you know, our friend Theta's movie Stress Positions was Neon,

909
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 4: and Neon has also won the Palm Door of the

910
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 4: last like eight years, so it sort of is the

911
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 4: course was that a Town was a was a Titan movie?

912
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 4: Me and my girlfriend? That is one of our favorite

913
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 4: things to Oh my god, you and this is the

914
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 4: Comedy Central Creators.

915
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: That was like, that was that was art school for

916
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 2: commed Comedy Central Creators program.

917
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: Oh God, so.

918
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: You said something very interesting when we were off Mike,

919
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: which is at some point you had the realization that

920
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: you don't have to participate in fantasy sports.

921
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 4: It was really like it was like it was like

922
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 4: God spoke to me. It was truly. I was because

923
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 4: I at this point I had moved on, I was

924
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 4: at a different job. I was truly in maybe three

925
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 4: different fantasy football leagues, and I was like it was

926
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 4: taking up so much of my time where it's like, again,

927
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: like these guys are getting injured all the time. If

928
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 4: a guy gets injured and you don't replace him on

929
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 4: your team, then that's just zero points, like the afters

930
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 4: once his team plays, if you've missed inserting him or

931
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 4: like removing him from your lineup, that's all of you're

932
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 4: losing all those points.

933
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: So I was stuff like that was happening to me.

934
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: I was having to keep up with like different blogs

935
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 4: and be like, Oh, this guy's injured. Oh I need

936
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 4: to pick up this other wide receiver from this team. Oh,

937
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 4: I got to try to orches straight to trade. There's

938
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 4: so many different levers that I was pulling that. Like genuinely,

939
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 4: I was like in the bathroom, like pissed off about

940
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 4: the fact that I was I was also losing. I

941
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 4: was losing all the time, and I was thinking about

942
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 4: it constantly. And one day I was like, Oh, what

943
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 4: if I just didn't do this? And I really can't

944
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 4: stress enough how straight of a culture that I like

945
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 4: grew up with that Like it seemed really novel to

946
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: me that I like didn't have to participate. And ever

947
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 4: since then, that was probably twenty sixteen or something when.

948
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: Trump was elected.

949
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, when Trump was that was a turning point. I

950
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 4: watched I watched an episode of a Chef's Chef's Table.

951
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 4: I watched an episode of Chef's Table about Kwame, the

952
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 4: Tatiana guy, and who, like, I know, shout out to

953
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 4: Kwame if you're okay, brag whatever, But like it was

954
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 4: basically he was talking about like he was selling drugs

955
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 4: and he basically saw the way that the story is

956
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 4: told is he was selling drugs and he saw Barack

957
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 4: Obama get elected and he was like, I'm putting this

958
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 4: ship behind me.

959
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: It's time to go buy some cilantro.

960
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: Like that was you with Trump and that was that

961
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: was me with.

962
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: Trump and fantasy.

963
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 4: I saw him get elected and I said, I need

964
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 4: to distance myself from this type of culture.

965
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, do you feel a sort of an

966
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: ostracization after being.

967
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Speaker 4: Not at all, especially not since moving to New York City?

968
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 4: All my like New York City, even my like New

969
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 4: York City straight friends are always like watching like art

970
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 4: house Japanese films, you know what I'm saying.

971
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 3: So it's like, I know, yeah, they should.

972
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: Do letterbox fantasy football where you're like collecting directors and

973
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: you know, little known character actors from the eighties.

974
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, that's probably coming, you know what. It's like, someone's

975
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 4: probably trying to configure something like that right now.

976
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 1: But the armists just kind of injured.

977
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 4: If she gets hurt, if she gets hurt in the movie,

978
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 4: then she gets Yeah.

979
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: Honestly, it might be something even darker, which is like

980
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: sort of like straight guys that like listen to the

981
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: Town podcast and read Hollywood Reporter and like read Variety

982
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: doing fantasy football but for studios, and they're.

983
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: Like literally what like agents and managers do for there

984
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:46,479
Speaker 1: it's true clients genuinely damn. They just get like real

985
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: money when it works out, when it hits.

986
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: I do think what you're saying about, like compulsory participation

987
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: is a big part of straight culture, and I actually

988
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: think that's something that is very alienating if you are

989
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 2: like growing up and you feel different. It's like the

990
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: idea that I could leave the soccer team is so

991
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: it's like such a statement. It's basically like saying I

992
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: am gay, and it's like, I guess what it is

993
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: is not doing something feels like more of a statement

994
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: than doing it, when in fact it should be the

995
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: other way around. It should everything should be opt in.

996
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think on like it's sometimes it's easier

997
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: to just be gay because you're like I'm not doing

998
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: that because I'm gay, Like where you're like one hundred

999
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: percent agree. Oh god. I when I was a mover,

1000
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: the guys I would work with would get so like

1001
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: there was one air in particular who was like I

1002
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: watched this movie go from like cheery one.

1003
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: Hundred percent disagree. Sorry, I'm holding for anyone watching, I'm

1004
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 2: holding a.

1005
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: Hard h I watched this I watched this man's mood

1006
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: change like from happy to sad based on fantasy football

1007
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: all over.

1008
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: That's what this is what I'm talking about.

1009
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,479
Speaker 1: And he was like and not like oh I'm sad,

1010
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: like don't but don't worry about me, like like I'm

1011
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: gonna jump in around of a car like he was

1012
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: like snap, he was like snipping at us.

1013
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: He was that's the gambling of it all like that,

1014
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: because that is gambler behavior.

1015
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there is money.

1016
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 4: There's usually there's a pot at the end, like everybody

1017
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 4: like collects on whatever. Usually it's like I don't know,

1018
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 4: a thousand bucks or something like that.

1019
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 1: But it's not nothing. It's not nothing. It's not nothing.

1020
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 4: But like, yeah, there really was such a culture of

1021
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 4: like this is just what every single man around you

1022
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 4: was doing that Like once, I've I've never felt more

1023
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 4: free than when I decided to stop doing it. And

1024
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 4: still to this day, every year people still tell they're like, hey, man,

1025
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 4: we got an extra spot in the league.

1026
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: Would you like no, Yeah, no, I wouldn't keep that

1027
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: away from me. Not while Angelica is open.

1028
00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 4: Exact, I gotta go watch Titan, I gotta go watch

1029
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 4: an afternoon show.

1030
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in thirty five millimeters, it's in.

1031
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: Thirty five millimeare it's just you? And like reach out?

1032
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: If you ever hear of metrograph closing?

1033
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever quit something way after you wanted to? Like,

1034
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: have you ever quit something and have such and had

1035
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: such a sense of relief? I'm trying to think I

1036
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: have one, you have one?

1037
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: Go ahead.

1038
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: This is when I was like a kid. It was

1039
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: just like compulsory that you have to like play an instrument,

1040
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: and of course what I if I had had it

1041
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 2: my way, I would have played a cool instrument like guitar,

1042
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: but that was just like not part of the narrative

1043
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: that I was part of. So what did you play?

1044
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: And so I had to play like piano? But I

1045
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: didn't practice literally at all, And so I would have

1046
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: to just once a week go into this room at

1047
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: this like dingy music school and be berated by this

1048
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 2: guy with a mustache that was like so once again

1049
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 2: you're not practicing. And I just did that for literally

1050
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: like five years, and then at some point I was

1051
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 2: like I don't want to do this anymore. My friends like,

1052
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 2: oh great, like we don't want to pay for it.

1053
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: I had almost the opposite where like like I was

1054
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: on swim team since like five years old. Yeah, and

1055
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: I hated it. I was bad at it. I like,

1056
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: like just hated getting in the water, like it's hill.

1057
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: It's one of the big parts of it.

1058
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, the water's always cold. I'm not the water's always cold,

1059
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: like your hair is fried, your skin is dry. Like

1060
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: I was like, this fucking sucks. And then when I

1061
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: was like fifteen, one day I was like, wait, I'm

1062
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: really good at swimming, Like now I like it. But

1063
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: it took ten years.

1064
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 3: Oh and uh so.

1065
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: I almost learned the opposite lesson of like, just.

1066
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 4: Don't stick for a decade, said, and then you'll like it.

1067
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1068
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now I'm like, god, those are my fondest memories. Yeah, fascinating. Yeah,

1069
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: it's weird.

1070
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 4: Hey, so if you don't like something right now and

1071
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 4: you're listening to this podcast, do it for a long time.

1072
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 4: Continue on that path for quite some time, and you'll

1073
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: find it.

1074
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: It's like us with the podcasting. Okay, do you feel

1075
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: like for me, the most compelling part about sports is

1076
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: like the personal stories of the athletes, Like I you know,

1077
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: one of the reasons I like tennis is because it's

1078
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: individual athletes and it's like I'm crying if Coco Goth

1079
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: is winning. Like that is different than feeling like an

1080
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 2: allegiance to the Yankees or something.

1081
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: But I feel like.

1082
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: What sort of joyless about fantasy football is just like

1083
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: everyone is just a collection of stats, Like would you

1084
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: ever when you're in a in a league? I guess

1085
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: my question is like, would you ever choose someone for

1086
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: non numbers reasons, like because you really like you think

1087
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: they have like an inspirational story even if they're not

1088
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: doing well.

1089
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, not an inspirational story alone. I

1090
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 4: feel like people do sometimes make decisions over there, like

1091
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 4: because of their allegiances. Okay, like that, like you know

1092
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 4: what if like I am a Yankees fan, I'm gonna

1093
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 4: take this one guy even if he's not the best guy,

1094
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 4: just because I want.

1095
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 3: A guy from the Yankees to be I think that happens.

1096
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 4: Ok, But it's not like, oh, this this man's doing

1097
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 4: really impressive work in the community.

1098
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 3: Or like like I don't know, yeah exactly what I like.

1099
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 3: I like the songs that.

1100
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: He makes fashion sense.

1101
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not. It's not that I wish it could be.

1102
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: But that's I think that's where the game is straight.

1103
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: Okay, theory based on this Yeah tennis okay, Yeah, football straight, incredibly,

1104
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: basketball bisexual. There's a lot of numbers and stats, but

1105
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: there's also a lot of personalities in there.

1106
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes.

1107
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 4: Yes, I also think that, Like I also think that football,

1108
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 4: but genuine legitimately because of the helmets, becomes so much

1109
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 4: more impersonal.

1110
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, every other sport. It's like, yeah, you're just see

1111
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: that is such a good point.

1112
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, like so, and I think the the NFL just

1113
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 4: got it. Wow man, you know, you know, I I

1114
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 4: think that I moved to New York City and I

1115
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 4: think that I'm removed from this version of myself. And

1116
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 4: then I get on Mike and I start talking. I'm

1117
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 4: like that still still really in there. I guess I

1118
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 4: still do think about this stuff. But I feel like

1119
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 4: the NFL as an organization, is also trying to promote

1120
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 4: their league, whereas like the NBA is trying to promote

1121
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 4: like look at these guys of the week. The NFL

1122
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 4: is trying to be like, we just want you watching

1123
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 4: the games, and we want you caring about the teams.

1124
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 4: The NBA and certainly tennis is being like, look at

1125
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 4: our personalities, Yes, look at these like cool, Look at

1126
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 4: this guy, he's got all these cool pants that he wears.

1127
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: Look at it.

1128
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: Watch them walk down the runway, not the runway, the

1129
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: tunnel they've got, I mean the tunnel. Tunnel fashion is crazy.

1130
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: And with the w NBA too, now that they're getting

1131
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: how the girls are getting in one, the actuals are

1132
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: getting fits off. So here's a question where does baseball

1133
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: fit in? Because I also do feel like baseball is

1134
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: personality driven, but also.

1135
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 4: Baseball, football and similar buckets, similar both I would say,

1136
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 4: incredibly straight sports the guy. It's also like there's like

1137
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 4: a there's a flamboyance in basketball. There's like a like,

1138
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 4: you know what style, there's a style, there's like a

1139
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 4: flare that I don't think that I think is certainly

1140
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 4: not embraced in basketball or I'm sorry, in baseball or football.

1141
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 3: I think any guys that like have.

1142
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 4: Flair, they're trying to like turn that flare down, They're

1143
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 4: trying to like move away, especially in baseball. Baseball is

1144
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 4: maybe the straightest sport of them all.

1145
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: Baseball is a weird one and and and partially it

1146
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: is because of their thick, juicy asses where it's like,

1147
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: what is going on?

1148
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: Well, it's not just that, it's also.

1149
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 4: We've also never had a baseball player come out, not one, not,

1150
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 4: I mean I believe, not that I know.

1151
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 1: There's been.

1152
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 4: There's been a good handful of football players that have

1153
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 4: come out. There's been a couple of basketball players. Although

1154
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 4: I don't know these guys. I'm like, some of these guys,

1155
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 4: come just be yourself that play my brother in Christ,

1156
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 4: be yourself. Did you see that play about the gay

1157
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,439
Speaker 4: baseball player? I did not see it, but you williams it.

1158
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 4: I with my mom full nudity.

1159
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: Right, not only full nudity, but someone told me that

1160
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 2: they like they all take my agra, you know, like

1161
00:52:58,719 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: I seen the picks.

1162
00:52:59,640 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 4: That pick.

1163
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: Sorry, that's just is not what a soft dick looks like.

1164
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: Interesting.

1165
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 2: I mean it is like you don't want to be

1166
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 2: hard on stage. I'm telling you, it is crazy interesting.

1167
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: So my mom literally like when he when he withs

1168
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 2: it out, my mom like trying to me. I was like,

1169
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: I was like, please look ahead, please look ahead. But anyway,

1170
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: I bring it up just because I was trying to

1171
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 2: remember if that's based on a true story.

1172
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 3: Is it about a coming out story in baseball?

1173
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's what it is and it's like he

1174
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: in fact not a I think what happens is either

1175
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: he's out it or he comes out, and then it's

1176
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: about like the fallout from that. And the reason the

1177
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 2: nudity is like quote unquote necessary is because it's like, Okay,

1178
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 2: what's it like now in the locker rooms and all

1179
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: these guys know how he's it's how he sees it.

1180
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 2: I will say interesting, like meta texturally, it's interesting because

1181
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: the gay character has the big dick, Like you are

1182
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 2: seeing all of them and he has the biggest dick

1183
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 2: and and but it's unclear if that's something you should

1184
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 2: be like noticing or not.

1185
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 3: Also, do you think that was part of the casting decision?

1186
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm saying.

1187
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, you think he was like.

1188
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: No, but he's also the biggest star, like he's a

1189
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: TV star wars the other ones are actually anyway, whatever,

1190
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: I know, let's.

1191
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: Get into the like let's talk about who's.

1192
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: The most anyway. At my point, I I but yes,

1193
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: I agree that baseball. Baseball is very straight and to

1194
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: your point, it has all these gay elements, but they

1195
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: almost a juicy as is be The costuming is so

1196
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: like circusy well, and they're.

1197
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: All just like chill guys.

1198
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 2: And they're all chill guys. They're mostly like sitting around. Yeah,

1199
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: there's something very kind of swinging is very as much

1200
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: gayer than the mustache culture.

1201
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a lot of mustache is happening, George Off. Mike,

1202
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: you mentioned that sometimes you wish you could opt out

1203
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 1: of the obligatory drag race.

1204
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: Yes, and I actually, well, I was just trying to

1205
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: relate to you know, obviously it's being so different from us.

1206
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: Mike's are on, You're you don't believe this.

1207
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: Devin was saying, you know, he felt so liberated when

1208
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 2: he opted out of Fantasy sports. I was like, what

1209
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: are gay equivalents? Like, I think for many people, not

1210
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 2: for me, But let's say I was like a super

1211
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: roided out Jim Gay. I think for that person, maybe

1212
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: the equivalent would be like, oh my god, I could

1213
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 2: just not do this to my body. Like I could

1214
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: just wake up one day and like not be counting

1215
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: macros tracking macros where it's like counting tracking my macros

1216
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: all day long, Like I don't I don't need to

1217
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: like be you know, intermittent fasting. I could just literally

1218
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 2: like go with my body. Yeah, And I think for me,

1219
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 2: I was saying the equivalent of that. When drag race

1220
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 2: is bad, which currently I'm actually an okay place with it,

1221
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, I wish I could stop watching this.

1222
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I I do something to dealing with drag

1223
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 1: race until I like, do you ever feel like when

1224
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: you meet a new straight guy, you are like, oh,

1225
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 1: I can't talk to you in the same way because

1226
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: when I'm when I meet like a gay guy, like

1227
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,959
Speaker 1: just at random, I'm sort of like, well, at least

1228
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: I can talk to you about drag race.

1229
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 4: Well, here's what I'll say to that is like, I

1230
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 4: think I still do follow sports. I am just not

1231
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 4: participating in the fantasy element of them. And so like

1232
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 4: that is a shorthand that is like, that is a

1233
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 4: thing that I'm always really you could meet you can

1234
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 4: meet a man that you have nothing else in common

1235
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 4: with and that you don't even like, but you can

1236
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 4: at least be like so the Knicks, right, Yeah, and

1237
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 4: you can.

1238
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: Talk to them about Addison Ray. That's true.

1239
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: That's true.

1240
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 4: Wait, okay, and I'm sorry for how Addison Ray is she? Like,

1241
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 4: is she brand new? Is she one of those girls?

1242
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 4: From I because she really feels like she came from

1243
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 4: absolute nowhere. And I'm realizing now that I thought she

1244
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 4: was one of the Demilio sisters.

1245
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: She's close.

1246
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: She was one of those TikTok dance girls.

1247
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 4: She was a TikTok cool cool, Okay, So then I

1248
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 4: think I am in the right track with the way

1249
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 4: that I'm thinking about her.

1250
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: What happened is she was a TikTok dance girl. Meanwhile,

1251
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: keep in mind, she was like sixteen at the time, right, right, right,

1252
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: she was a TikTok dance girl, got way way big,

1253
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: super fast during the pandemic.

1254
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 3: Doing those doing dances no one's ever seen before.

1255
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: Jam just yes, exactly, like Jimmy Fallon had her on

1256
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 2: and she was like, okay, and this one.

1257
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 4: Is it's it's it is crazy because there are literally

1258
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 4: there's so many on the internet. You you find so

1259
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 4: many like uber talented dancers who are doing all this

1260
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 4: insane ship and the fact that it's just these like

1261
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 4: white girls going.

1262
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: Like that.

1263
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: Shit.

1264
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 4: I just if I was a real dancer, I can

1265
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 4: only imagine how that And then it's like these and

1266
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 4: now they're becoming our like next biggest pop stars.

1267
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, god, bless, I haven't listened to music.

1268
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: Maybe the musu Well, she is a fourth Mexican, so maybe,

1269
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: Oh my.

1270
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 4: God, I didn't realize that I was tearing down a

1271
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 4: fellow personal foth Mexican.

1272
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'd like to take that back.

1273
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: Where's my camera?

1274
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry to my Latina queen. I would like

1275
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 4: to apologize for for for shaming you. I didn't realize

1276
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 4: that you were with the community.

1277
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: That's what she's been on a journey because she's a

1278
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: TikTok dance girl. Then she put off this EP that

1279
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: was like, had like one to two songs that you

1280
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: were like, wait a minute.

1281
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: One of them was produced by Charli XCX, like it

1282
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: was that.

1283
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: And so it's like, wait, is their taste here? What's

1284
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: going on? And it became like sort of an ironic okay,

1285
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: guys would put it on, and then the new songs,

1286
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: people are like hold on, yeah.

1287
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 4: Now it feels like it's transforming into people being like

1288
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 4: she's legitimately good.

1289
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 2: She's also working with it seems like she has good

1290
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 2: taste because she's choosing the right people to work with. Musically,

1291
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 2: she's going in a sort of like nineties Madonna, Janet,

1292
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: Shade direct everyone's doing, and she's doing am I I'm

1293
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: being pretty generous, but I would never.

1294
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 4: Like that's I mean, if she's got a little that

1295
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 4: in there, I'm I'll check out a track or two.

1296
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 3: It sounds like it's not really sounds like that's not right.

1297
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: She is, like I said, she's the last talented as shadday.

1298
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 4: That's that's such a specific one because it's like I've

1299
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 4: definitely seen girls in pop music who are doing Janet

1300
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 4: Jackson stuff, and there's so many people are doing Madonna stuff.

1301
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 4: I cannot okay, Shad is doing such a specific I've never.

1302
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: Heard anyone who I'm like they're doing.

1303
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: And and and in my defense, because people are gonna

1304
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 2: really come for me, yeah, you are yourself up. And

1305
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 2: Shade had this sort of more electronic like if you

1306
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: listen to Love Deluxe, it's more like electronic almost like

1307
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: Madonna Ray of Light type sound. That's more what I

1308
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: was referencing. She's not doing like smooth up right yeah anyway,

1309
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: So and then she's also visually working with a lot

1310
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: of like the very cool Fashionee interview magazine people, and

1311
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: so suddenly she goes from TikTok teen to you know Britney.

1312
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 2: Brittany does answer your question.

1313
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, I did.

1314
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 4: I did learn something because I do think I think

1315
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 4: the version of her that I was thinking about is

1316
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 4: not that far off from who she actually is. But

1317
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 4: it sounds like she's like just got a little more

1318
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 4: taste than yes, the rest of the like TikTok dance girl.

1319
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 2: I really think it's a similar narrative to Brittany. Like,

1320
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: I think she's both girl next door but also like

1321
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 2: has taste and works with the right people.

1322
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: She definitely knows who to work with, and that's the

1323
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: best thing you can have these days.

1324
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: Damn, you really brought a fan fantasy football in as

1325
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: your topic and we made you talk about Addison ray No,

1326
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: that was.

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01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: Awesome, full circle. We kind of needed that. We like

1328
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: talked about sports for so long, Yeah, really needed.

1329
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 4: It was too much, And honestly, I had more fun

1330
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 4: talking about the pop girl than I did about cause

1331
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 4: because again, it's like it is, I'm straight and that

1332
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 4: is part of our culture, but it is an element

1333
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 4: that I hate.

1334
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, get that away from me.

1335
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're a strayman, Please don't talk

1336
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 4: to me about that, don't talk about fantasy football teams.

1337
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 4: It's is it like that for you guys in drag Race?

1338
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 4: Does it occupy that same space where you're like or

1339
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 4: it's like enough of this, Okay.

1340
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: Something that annoys me is when people get overly into

1341
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: Oscars stuff. And I'm guilty of it. I'm not saying

1342
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 2: I'm not, but like when people when it's literally like

1343
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: we're currently what June, when it's June and someone is

1344
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 2: talking to you about who they think is going to

1345
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 2: be nominated for Best Actress based on like the blogs

1346
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: are reading about what's coming out of can and I like.

1347
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 4: About a movie that's not going to be available to

1348
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 4: the publican exactly for four months.

1349
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, actually there's a pretty big similarity because they're

1350
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: talking about movies they literally haven't seen stats and it's

1351
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: just stats and it's you're talking. You're saying like, oh,

1352
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: this is gonna be Amy Adams's year, This is going

1353
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 2: to be Glenn Close's year, if only.

1354
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 3: For her performance for her Deliverance.

1355
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 2: For Deliverance, yes, was that?

1356
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 3: Is that what that movie was called?

1357
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: The horror movie?

1358
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? I know where she like says the N word she.

1359
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 3: Doesn't, but she might as well.

1360
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought that was the controversy. Does she I

1361
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: think she might?

1362
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: She might? She might? I did.

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01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 3: I did watch the film. I'm like, did she say it?

1364
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: She certainly?

1365
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 3: Her essence feels like she. It feels like she would.

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01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't watch it, but the little clips that's

1367
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: online were pretty fun.

1368
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do think that's my version of that.

1369
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 4: I totally get that, and that is I feel like

1370
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 4: I'm in that world as well. I don't want to

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01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 4: I want to talk about what came out of the

1372
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 4: fucking film festival circuit.

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Speaker 1: I'm sick of a film festival circuit. Yeah, Like it's like,

1374
01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: just wake me up when I can see the movie.

1375
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's guess what. Like, I'm not part of that.

1376
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 2: I'm not at can. I think everyone there should have

1377
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 2: a great time, and they should at the after parties,

1378
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 2: they should be talking about what an amazing performance Julie

1379
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 2: Delpi gave. But I'm actually in Brooklyn doing freelance work.

1380
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: I've also been burned so many times where people are like,

1381
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: this is the greatest film I've ever seen. Eight months

1382
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: later I'm allowed to see it, and I'm like flop.

1383
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, conversation. Oh we got a thirty minute standing over.

1384
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 4: That's that's what it's like. It's also like, no, it

1385
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 4: didn't know it. It's like nothing, I've never have you

1386
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 4: ever wanted to stand up and clap after? I mean

1387
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 4: maybe a handful of films have made you. And but

1388
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 4: then even when you feel like it's also period, its

1389
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 4: eye pressure. You're happens in New York theater. Now everything

1390
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 4: is getting a standing ovation, so you just know the

1391
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 4: part of the play being overs that you have to

1392
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 4: stand up even if.

1393
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 2: You hated it.

1394
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: Right well, it's like encores.

1395
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 2: It's like on course, oh you know what else?

1396
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 3: I don't care for that either.

1397
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't care for it. I don't care for the encore.

1398
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 4: I'm like it because there's no true encorese if it's

1399
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 4: like if you want to part of set life, just

1400
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 4: do your whole fucking just just do to set and

1401
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 4: then leave. I don't like this fake and then we

1402
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 4: all gotta be like and then I come back the

1403
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 4: way you.

1404
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 2: Can literally look up the set list, you know what's

1405
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: coming and then the encore, and there is the same

1406
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: same ship.

1407
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 4: With the see it's all coming together because that's The

1408
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 4: straight culture version of that is like post credit scenes.

1409
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, that's the and then people know to wait

1410
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 2: for them.

1411
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's just like okay, so this it's not

1412
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 4: like a special treat. It's just like, well, this is

1413
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 4: just what you drew into the playbook.

1414
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: There used to be magic.

1415
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally you can still.

1416
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 3: Find the magic at the AMC theaters. That's what I've heard.

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01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 2: That's right by its kind of award when nic who

1418
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 2: went for the hours? So if you uh, the flip

1419
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,919
Speaker 2: side of of stant in ovations is when you hear

1420
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,439
Speaker 2: how many people walked out of something at a music

1421
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 2: as at a film festival like Tatan is a great example.

1422
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 2: Like I'm there were articles that are like the most

1423
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 2: walkouts of any film since two thousand and one, which.

1424
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 3: Even I bet you the director.

1425
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 4: I don't know who the director of Titan was, but

1426
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 4: I guarantee you that director would be.

1427
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 3: Like fair, Yeah, totally fair. The lady's fucking the car.

1428
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: I struggled with Titan, of course. Of course I'll be

1429
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: the first to say it.

1430
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: Even as the director was making it, they had to

1431
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: have been like, well, this, this can't be this is

1432
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: for some people. This is literally one of those movies.

1433
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: Everyone was like, this movie will change the way you

1434
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: think about cinema and people people you respect. Yes, you know what,

1435
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: people who.

1436
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 2: Like always sit together?

1437
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Max, I was like everyone was screaming at me

1438
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: about it, and I went and I was like, all right, yeah, like, yeah,

1439
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: I guess keep French people weird.

1440
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 4: Like which more call is? Also there's a French director

1441
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 4: to right the margaret quality and Demi Moore that's a French.

1442
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: Lady as well.

1443
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: Yes it is.

1444
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not even gonna try it.

1445
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: That's sort of an m K situation. Should we do

1446
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: our final set? Wait?

1447
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 2: I do want you to promote?

1448
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: Yes?

1449
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: Your podcast?

1450
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: Oh?

1451
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, of course, yes, I'm I've got a podcast.

1452
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 4: It's called My Favorite Lyrics. We come on and we

1453
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 4: genuinely just every guest brings a song and then we

1454
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 4: kind of do like a lyrical analysis of the song.

1455
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 3: That is such a good idea, make some little jokes

1456
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 3: about it.

1457
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 2: What if you were to be a guest on your

1458
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 2: own podcast today, what song would you bring in?

1459
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 3: I that's a great question.

1460
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:27,919
Speaker 4: I know what artists I would probably want to talk about,

1461
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 4: and that is that's Big Sean.

1462
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 3: Okay, a big Sean of ass fame.

1463
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: We're familiar, Yeah.

1464
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 3: I just think he did. I don't know how familiar

1465
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 3: you guys are with his discography.

1466
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: The hits.

1467
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 2: I know the hits, yeah, because they're like, we're the

1468
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: exact great age for.

1469
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: The hits to have been.

1470
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 3: Yes, I think he was.

1471
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 4: His early part of his career was all built off

1472
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 4: like doing like straight up like like set up punchline

1473
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 4: jokes or like set up punchline raps. So man, I

1474
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 4: wish I could, like I wish I was. I had

1475
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 4: more like at hand to like bring but like an

1476
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 4: example would be like I don't like the way that

1477
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 4: you sound headphones he was doing, which Nicki minajah, they were.

1478
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 4: They were very much peers. They were doing that kind

1479
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 4: of thing at the exact same time. And Nicki Minaj

1480
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 4: would also be I'd love to do a Nicky episode.

1481
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 4: She's got I mean, she's got some absolute class. Now

1482
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 4: you're not there, there it is, and that Yes, Big

1483
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 4: Sean was doing that exact same rep style, so I'd

1484
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 4: love to get into him and.

1485
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: Nick Ludacris started doing that for a second, and he

1486
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: had that one song where he's like blowing up balloon.

1487
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: Oh what song was that is that the Austin Bowers

1488
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: one or like there were like a few songs that

1489
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: were like really flop right.

1490
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 4: This was a style that Big Sean claims to have started.

1491
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 4: Really this is something that he claims to have popularized.

1492
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 2: And yeah, Nicki Minaj, I really with Nicki Mina because

1493
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 2: I love you know what my speaking of Ludacrous. My

1494
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 2: first ever song on my iPod was What's your Fantasy?

1495
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: Wow, there was just freaky little guy and I was like,

1496
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: well I had ten I probably probably.

1497
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 2: A little older, but I was like someone on my

1498
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 2: school bus was singing and I was like that is

1499
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 2: so funny, like Georgia Dome, like that is so you're

1500
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 2: that is so funny. And then I had to have

1501
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 2: it on my iPod and then I think I was

1502
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: buying legally at the time, so I was like, okay,

1503
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 2: I have one dollar, I'm buying that. And then there

1504
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: was like a full week where I just had that.

1505
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 2: So I had my iPod with me and I was

1506
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 2: only listening to about your Fantasy that song.

1507
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: Like as a child, I was like, no, this is really.

1508
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: Not oh, I have such a me like you thought

1509
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 2: it was too, like like this is you're such a

1510
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 2: goody two shoes.

1511
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a good boy. Whoa Was your family

1512
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: really Christian? No? They were just like they were like

1513
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: very not not classically waspy, not like Connecticut waspy, but

1514
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: they were like midwestern waspy.

1515
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 2: Like it was so chill, like your mom is so like.

1516
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: It comes like sex. Oh, it's really like, we.

1517
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 2: Don't like that. I have a memory of buying the

1518
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 2: Ludicrous album Chicken and Beer at sam Goode or whatever,

1519
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 2: and because it had a parental advisory thing, they had

1520
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 2: to call my mom in and she was like, I

1521
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 2: don't know who this artist is, Like what's the deal,

1522
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 2: Like why am I Why don't you need my permission?

1523
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: And the guy at the kind of was like, I

1524
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 2: mean I don't know. It's can't be that bad. It's

1525
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 2: about chicken and beer. And she was like, all right,

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Speaker 2: then let me buy it.

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01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 4: Nasty lyrics on there, and they really were Did your

1528
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 4: parents care about that kind of thing?

1529
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: Did they care about what you were?

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01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 2: No? I mean personally with music, they did not care

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01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 2: at all. I would say with film they did, Like

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01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 2: if someone was rated are and I was like nine,

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01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 2: I don't think they would let me.

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01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 1: She cared about movies.

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01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 3: Okay, mine where mine was? Both My parents really care

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01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 3: about music.

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01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,879
Speaker 4: Again, Texas very Christian, very Christian, so like I couldn't

1538
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 4: have any they wouldn't buy many albums with parental advisory sticker,

1539
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 4: which is why the first album that I actually the

1540
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 4: first album that I wanted, I want to say was

1541
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 4: I want to say it was college dropout. Kanye West

1542
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 4: definitely had the sticker on there. So the first album

1543
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 4: that I actually received was Nick Cannon's self titled LP

1544
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 4: oh No, featuring the hit single Jigglo by you Guess

1545
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 4: featuring you Guessed It R Kelly oh No.

1546
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:25,799
Speaker 1: It's the first.

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01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,719
Speaker 4: That was the first, and I did really like that song,

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01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 4: and that was the that was the reason that I

1549
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 4: bought the album back when you had to do that, yeah,

1550
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 4: You're like, I just I want to listen to one song,

1551
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 4: So I guess I got to pay fifteen ninety nine.

1552
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 4: That's the first album I ever owned. Nick Cannon's album

1553
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:43,440
Speaker 4: That is Wild. He was rapping Never Forget, he was rapping.

1554
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: Sheh Okay. Now I feel that we should do our

1555
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 1: final sag okay, Devin. Our final segment is called shout outs,

1556
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: and in this segment, we pay homage to the grand

1557
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: straight tradition of the radio shout out, shouting out anything

1558
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: that we enjoy people, places, things, ideas.

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01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 2: And we think of them on the spot.

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01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: We think of them on the spot, which is part

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01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: of the struggle.

1562
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 2: The struggle struggle as as I always think.

1563
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 5: Olks, oh, we're being so unprofessional today.

1564
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 2: It's because Sam's getting married.

1565
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah that's why.

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01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 2: Okay, now it's gonna come to me. It's gonna come

1567
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 2: to me.

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01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I have one.

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01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 2: Okay, go go go.

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01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: What's up freaks, losers, and especially perverts, this is for you.

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01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to give a huge shout out to office parties.

1572
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: I have just been working a job for like a

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01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 1: year and a half and we never had one party

1574
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 1: the whole time, so I only knew people in the

1575
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: context of work. And I said, Okay, I guess we're

1576
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: all like this. This is what we are. One party.

1577
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying, everybody's so fun. I'm saying people get a

1578
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 1: little inappropriate. I say thank god. This whole time I

1579
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 1: was like enough with HR.

1580
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 6: And then this party we were getting a little bit weird,

1581
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 6: and I say, thank God, this job is over because

1582
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 6: some of these things would lead to some issues, but

1583
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 6: through that I felt very comfortable, and I said, you know,

1584
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 6: this is I finally I see the full humanity of

1585
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 6: these people.

1586
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: And I feel that I was almost robbed of seeing

1587
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 1: them as people and not as little data sets until

1588
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 1: this moment. So shout out to office parties. Yes, you're

1589
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: going to make some mistakes, but that's part of it.

1590
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: It's to understand each other on a human level. Enjoy

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01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: it xxo, Sam.

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01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,560
Speaker 2: What's up, freaks and losers? I want to give a

1593
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 2: shout out to the feeling of being invited to something,

1594
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 2: saying no, seeing that people do that something, and being

1595
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 2: offended you're not there, this kite, the fact that you

1596
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 2: yourself said no to the invite. I actually think this

1597
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 2: is one of those so deeply human feelings that is

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01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 2: invigorating because it reminds you of your own humanity. It's like,

1599
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 2: you know, we're talking about AI folks. AI cannot feel

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01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 2: that feeling, The feeling of literally saying notice something and

1601
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 2: still being like, why did they do it without me?

1602
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 2: That is actually the core of human nature and we

1603
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 2: have to really lean into those, especially human feelings when

1604
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 2: we create art in the future. Otherwise the machines are

1605
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 2: going to win.

1606
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: Wow, humanity was running through both of art. Yeah in

1607
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: deep way. Wow, that was really you guys, And that

1608
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: was just off, just off the dome.

1609
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 2: Well, this just happened to me, actually that feeling. Oh,

1610
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 2: I see last night I was people and you were hangout.

1611
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 2: They're like, can you come? I said no because I

1612
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 2: had work to do. So I'm posting about it saying, well,

1613
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 2: why the hell are you there without me?

1614
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 1: Why are you guys?

1615
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:47,679
Speaker 3: Why is it fun?

1616
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: If I wasn't gonna be there? Should you guys should just.

1617
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 4: Be saying kind of solemnly you should be in mourning, yes,

1618
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 4: just kind of being like, well, man, this sure could

1619
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 4: be better.

1620
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Devin, whenever you're ready. Fuck you know what you know.

1621
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 4: I spent my whole time trying to think about what

1622
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 4: I was going to talk about, but then I kind

1623
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:08,759
Speaker 4: of got enraptured by which all were talking about.

1624
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 3: I was kind of just I was really engrossed.

1625
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 2: To know we have had so many especially me, sometimes

1626
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 2: it will just not come to me and then everyone's

1627
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: sitting there awkwardly.

1628
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: That's not true. I've had just as many flops.

1629
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sam, but you are pushing it.

1630
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you're right. No, you're right, No, you're right.

1631
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: What's up?

1632
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 3: Freaks and losers? I'd like to say, hey, shout out

1633
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 3: to every single.

1634
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 4: Uber driver who carries on a conversation the entire time

1635
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 4: that we are in the vehicle. I'd like to know

1636
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 4: what it is. But you know, oftentimes we don't speak

1637
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 4: the same language, so I've just got to pick up

1638
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 4: on the cues that you're sending out verbally. And sometimes

1639
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:47,799
Speaker 4: you seem like you're in a fight with your wife,

1640
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 4: and I like to know about that, you know, I

1641
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 4: like to know about what's going on with you. Weigh

1642
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 4: me in, you know, let me know a little bit

1643
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 4: about what you've got going on.

1644
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 3: Let's talk about it together.

1645
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 4: If hey, whatever Uber driver takes me home after this,

1646
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 4: let's talk, let's talk.

1647
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:02,759
Speaker 1: Let's get together. Thanks.

1648
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 3: That's all I have to say to today. My name

1649
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 3: is Devin.

1650
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: Thanks, wow, wow, Well Devin, it's been a pleasure to

1651
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: have you on. Thanks for them. Yeah, it's been nice.

1652
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 2: And once again, please tell our listeners where they can

1653
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:15,480
Speaker 2: find you.

1654
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 4: Uh, you can find me at Internet Devin, on whatever

1655
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 4: platform you you find people on. And then also my

1656
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 4: favorite lyrics pod go listen, go listen. We started all indie.

1657
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 4: We didn't do it with a network or anything, so

1658
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 4: we're like building it from the ground up.

1659
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 1: So go check it out.

1660
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 4: We've got a lot of very fun episodes and you

1661
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 4: guys are welcome to come.

1662
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: Would love to anytime. And networks are good too. Just

1663
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 1: FYI and shout out to.

1664
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 3: The good people at Big Money Players.

1665
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 2: And I Want. I wonder when I think we're pro indie. Yeah,

1666
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 2: any network here, pro network, prow network. The bigger, the better, conglomerates,

1667
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 2: love them.

1668
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 1: Love them, love them.

1669
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:53,479
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1670
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