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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast Still can't get to sleep

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Speaker 1: from head its trip from beautiful London, England for the

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Speaker 1: last time. It's the Around the NFL Podcast, Dan Hands

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Speaker 1: this year with Greg Rosenthal, Ricky Hollywood. It's not our

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Speaker 1: last show. It's our last show in London four now

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Speaker 1: and it's the flagship program. And it's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: just us handling the games. Uh. Nick Shook, as he

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Speaker 1: of the late time here, it's we're taping around one

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Speaker 1: thirty am. Um here London time. Shook and Grave Digger

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Speaker 1: will handle the great Sunday Night football Uh Sunday Night

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Speaker 1: football matchup between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: And Greg we're gonna get to all the games like

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Speaker 1: we always do. But your thoughts after what has been

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Speaker 1: a real whirlwind Uh here in England. Uh, what a

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Speaker 1: time we've had. It's been insane. I mean, if it's

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Speaker 1: our last show, we're going out on top. We're going

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Speaker 1: out with a lot of energy. We're gonna fake it

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Speaker 1: till we make it. What a long day, but rewarding

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Speaker 1: day like it started with us at the stadium at

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Speaker 1: nine thirty local time, and as you mentioned, getting back

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Speaker 1: the sights and scenes. But it was special Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: more more than anything that happened between the Jets and

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Speaker 1: tribute on the big screen for Chris Westling, our friend

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Speaker 1: that we lost in February, and um we also got

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Sam Quack and uh that was special

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Speaker 1: we'll talk. We'll pepper in some of our memories of

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Speaker 1: get to the action of Week five, and yeah, the

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Speaker 1: the game of the day, the game that everyone will remember,

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Speaker 1: the game that will be on every top ten list

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Speaker 1: was that showdown uh in Los Angeles between the Chargers

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Speaker 1: But let's start with another weird and memorable game. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This one took place in West's hometown of Cincinnati. Forty

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Speaker 1: yard field goal temper mation Crosby, who smissed three in

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Speaker 1: It is up, it is got it done. Fourth time

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Speaker 1: then before hitting a forty nine yarder in overtime to

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Speaker 1: costs him. Yeah, it cost him, and the drive prior

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Speaker 1: cost him as well, you know, trying to hang onto

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Speaker 1: a one point lead after Tristan vis Kain know missed

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00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: the extra point and and playing not to lose. I think, um,

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00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: you know, not really getting aggressive handing it off on

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Speaker 1: first down, you know, throwing on second down, ill fated pass,

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Speaker 1: and then just basically conceding and handing it off on

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00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: third down and punting the ball away. You know that

436
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of consternation in Cleveland with their punter

437
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: and how he's he's nicknamed the Scottish Hammer, but he

438
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: doesn't boom punts like other punters do, and he didn't

439
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: help him there. But it was more than that. This

440
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: is a high flying game. Is the game, like you said,

441
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: when the defense has left the building. The Browns a

442
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 1: lot of their defense left via injury and they were

443
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 1: left with an undrafted free agent playing one corner. They

444
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: had to move Troy Hill outside when he was signed

445
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: to play slot corner um and Justin Herbert carved him up.

446
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: They had a couple of blown coverages for long touchdowns

447
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 1: to Mike Williams and the fourth corner quarter was just

448
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: an absolute explosion of points. You know, you couldn't look

449
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: away because before you knew it, another team was in

450
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: the end zone in different methods. The Browns not one

451
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: to hit the big play through the air necessarily, but

452
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: they hit one to David Njoku. A crazy game, I

453
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Speaker 1: think the leader for the game of the year so far,

454
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: and um one that tells you a lot. I think

455
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Speaker 1: about the Chargers in the state of the franchise of

456
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert in a second year and a disappointed one

457
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: for Browns fans, but they should also feel somewhat good

458
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: about the fact that their offense put up forty two points.

459
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: The Chargers had twenty six points in the fourth quarter.

460
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 1: The Browns had fifteen of their own six plus fifteen

461
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: in one quarter. I mean that that that does not

462
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: happen very often now, It doesn't. It doesn't in today's game.

463
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: Though it's a pass. Firstly, you expect to see some

464
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: more defense. It's funny because the Browns had allowed twenty

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00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: points in the last ten quarters going into this game,

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Speaker 1: and and they got to stop in the first possession,

467
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: and then they couldn't really do much from there on out.

468
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean justin Herbert's awesome, Like we all know this,

469
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: it's incredible, but um yeah, a lackluster performance from them

470
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Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. And when they

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Speaker 1: add the ball, they trusted the running game. The rush

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Speaker 1: for two hud and twenty two yards between Nick Chubb

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00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: and Kareem Hunt. I mean, that's that's pretty solid, but

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Speaker 1: it wasn't enough to win a game, right It's crazy

475
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: to not win a game where they run for that much,

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Speaker 1: where they put up that many points, and it's just

477
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: unders from Baker too. It's just Herbert stacking up his

478
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: m v P case little early for that, but he's

479
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Speaker 1: certainly one of the best quarterbacks h in the league

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Speaker 1: right now. And it's just a reminder, Like I I

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Speaker 1: fall for it too. After watching that Brown's game on

482
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Speaker 1: game Pass, I thought against the Vikings, the defensive performance,

483
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: I thought that was the best defensive performance they've seen

484
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Speaker 1: all season, and maybe the next best was the last

485
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: Browns game. But great offense beats great defense. And I

486
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: think losing Clowney you know before the game, but especially

487
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: losing Denzel Award because I think when you watch those

488
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: last couple of Browns games. To me, Denzel Award brings

489
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: a secondary together. He's a special cornerback who was playing

490
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: at his best and him being out suddenly, okay, you're

491
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: just the defense. And you know what, just the defense

492
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: can give up forty points to The Chargers didn't end

493
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: up losing this game. Yeah, one point. They also lost

494
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: Greedy Williams down the stretch. It was in the fourth quarter.

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00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: They were already without Greg Newsom, who wasn't available to

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00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: play because of injury. Um, you know these are these

497
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: are guys. This is shades of last year's Browns with

498
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: Andrews and Dahell giving up deep passes over the middle.

499
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 1: It's just the difference was they lacked corners instead of

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00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: lacking safeties this time around. Justin Herbert, you give him

501
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 1: a ton of credit. I mean he absolutely capitalized no

502
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: matter who is throwing to. But the biggest thing for me,

503
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: and this has been watching the Chargers on Monday Night

504
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: last week and today. They're a different beast offensively when

505
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: Austin Necklers involved, and he was a key part of

506
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: that offense today. So you know, in the third quarter,

507
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: I guess this would be early in the third quarter,

508
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: the team's trade three punts in a row, Brown's punt twice,

509
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 1: Charger sandwich a punt in there, and then from that

510
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Speaker 1: point onward you had Chargers touchdown four place sixty one

511
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: yards game clock, Brown's touchdown to place seventy eight yards

512
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Speaker 1: forty two seconds, Chargers touchdown eleven place seventy five yards

513
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: three minutes, sixteen seconds, Brown's touchdown five place seventy five

514
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: yards two minutest seconds. Chargers touchdown six place seventy five yards,

515
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Speaker 1: one thirty and that's when this guy I know missed

516
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: the extra point and shook. That is an excellent point

517
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: you made to start, as frustrating as it must be

518
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: for you and our birthday boy, Mark sessler Um. When

519
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: this guy I know hooks that and he just gagged it,

520
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: he at one, hooks at left. I don't think there's

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Speaker 1: any way the Browns play it. That's safe obviously if

522
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: it's forty two all. But because they had the lead,

523
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: and I think Stefanski in general has been brilliant for them.

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00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: He had a seven winning percentage entering this game as

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00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: head coach in two years, but I think he kind

526
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: of outsmarted himself or again in a big moment sometimes

527
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: this happens, a coach kind of gets a little tight um.

528
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: You couldn't play it that way given everything I just

529
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: laid out in terms of the scoring, you can't give

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00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: the charges of the ball back and what happens five plays,

531
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: forty eight yards another touchdown the thirty one seconds by

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Speaker 1: l A. Yeah, absolutely. You know the previous drive which

533
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: they capped off with the Kree Hunt rushing touchdown. I thought,

534
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: when they got the ball in their own territory, I said, well,

535
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: there's about seven minutes left. If this is the Browns

536
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: who have closed out a lot of victories in the

537
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: last year, they're gonna pound the run down the field,

538
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: bleed clock and give the ball back to the Chargers

539
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: with two minutes or less and hope that the defense

540
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: can hang on. And having that um, you know, that

541
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: was before the Chargers came down and tight and then

542
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: missed the extra point and instead they go right down

543
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: the field because the Chargers can't stop the run. So

544
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: the question is is, first off, why is Nick Chubb

545
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: not on the field, Because the first hand off was

546
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: to Kareem Hunt, and then the second one was a

547
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: pass that Baker Mayfield, you know, was an Errand throw.

548
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: It wasn't really an erranthrow, it was just it was

549
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: well defended. And then the third down they just basically

550
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: conceded that they were going to punt on the next

551
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: down by handing it off to Kareem Hunt. Why is

552
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb not involved to try to? I mean, the

553
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: guy finished with eighty seven rush yards over expectation and

554
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: he's obviously breaking tackles and getting more out of a

555
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: play than is expected. Why is he not on the

556
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: field involved? That's one of the questions you have to

557
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: ask him. But really, above all, you gotta be aggressive

558
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: in a game where your defense is not showing up,

559
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: and especially because it's hurt, you have to be aggressive

560
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: and try and get a couple of first downs and

561
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: take more of that clock off. And they just didn't.

562
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: You gotta get a stop on fourth down. To me,

563
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: the fourth down story of the Chargers is the story

564
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: is that's that's their four and rent one record. There

565
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: there three for three on fourth downs in this game,

566
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Speaker 1: including one deep in their own end zone late, you know,

567
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: deep in their end like the forty yard line late

568
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: in the game. Another one was a fourth and seven.

569
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: It's not like it goes a short fourth down, they

570
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: get the p I on one, they convert another. And

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00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: I still remember that oh b J drop on fourth

572
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: down early in the game, and the Browns hit one

573
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: too for a touchdown. But like, it's just uncanny how

574
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: many extra possessions and extra points the Chargers are getting

575
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: off fourth downs this year. Yeah, they got a lot

576
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: of credit for being two very well coached teams. A

577
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: lot of people online after the Browns even pulled him

578
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: into the end zone to you know, let them scoring,

579
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: try to get the ball back. You know, these are

580
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: very two well coached teams, two coaches that are on

581
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: the forefront of thinking it popular teams for sure, Yes, exactly,

582
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: But ultimately that was the difference one team that likes

583
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: to go for both teams like to go for on

584
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: fourth down. One team converted, the other one didn't. And uh,

585
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: and that's what gave the Chargers extra opportunities that they

586
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: converted into points. Now, Browns fans, of course, are gonna

587
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: make a big stink about the the p I that

588
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: you mentioned, And I think it could have gone either way.

589
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: It was kind of even hand, you know, pulling and

590
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: everything else. If anything, it's a no call, that's fine,

591
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: but guess what football games aren't one by one flag,

592
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: especially a game like this, So that's not gonna determine

593
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: the outcome of the game. Right by the end of

594
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. As frustrating as that was, and it

595
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: was a very important call, it was still all there

596
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: for the Browns, and and they got a little gun shy.

597
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: And you know, so the Chargers there four and one,

598
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: and uh they they are on both sides of the ball.

599
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: You know, if they put it together, they're gonna be

600
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: hard to beat. And I feel the same way about

601
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: the Brown Chokie even though the defense didn't show up. Again,

602
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: these things happen sometimes, and they're all beat up with injuries.

603
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: But where we've seen, even though they're three and two

604
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: and now and they got the undefeated Cardinals up next,

605
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: which will be a big test, we've seen how good

606
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: they could be on offense. We've seen how good they

607
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: could be on defense if they could just put it together.

608
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: Look out. So I think as frustrating as this loss is,

609
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: um still the Browns are a team to reckon with.

610
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: Um let's move on. Brady drops pressure coming. It's a pass,

611
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: oh boy called ball fifty race to the forty's Tony o'brown,

612
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: Tony ten five touchdowns, Tampa Bay and Tonio browns to

613
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: the north ends fire the count outs off w f

614
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: us with the call Tom Brady through for four dred

615
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: and eleven yards and five touchdowns. He never did that before.

616
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: Doesn't seem impossible. He never did four hundred five Well,

617
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown and five? I mean, or how does Brady

618
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: through for four hundred yards with five touchdowns in the

619
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: same game for the first time in his twenty two

620
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: year career. True story anyway, Antonio Brown continues to be

621
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: a major playmaker. UH and the Super Bowl Champs route

622
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: the Dolphins seventeen shook. The Dolphins were hanging tight early

623
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: in this game, but then gravity took hold hanging tight

624
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: actually through the start of the fourth quarter and gave

625
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: up a four net touchdown run. And then from there

626
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: I kind of sat back and chuckled because as soon

627
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 1: as the Buccaneers got the ball back, they were not

628
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: taking their foot off the gas. It was to the

629
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: point where I was like, they're they're just disrespectful with

630
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: how they have no fear uh in an opposing team's

631
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: ability to come back. You think they were showing up

632
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: the Dolphins would No, No, not at all. I don't

633
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: think it was that. I just think that they're a

634
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: team that succeeds by throwing the ball, and they were

635
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: succeeding at a very high level, especially in the fourth quarter.

636
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: Unit three touchdowns in the fourth quarter. Two of them

637
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: were touchdown passes to Mike Evans of twenty two yards

638
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: or more and thirty four um. They couldn't be stopped

639
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: through the air, so I couldn't blame them at all

640
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: for continuing to air it out. But it showed you

641
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: their explosiveness. It started with Antonio Brown. Like you mentioned,

642
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: he looked as good today as he has since his

643
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh days. His first catch it was a sixty two

644
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: year His first touchdown catch was a sixty two yard

645
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: touchdown reception where he basically caught it at the numbers,

646
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: broke outside by two defenders, and just outran them to

647
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: the end zone. I mean it looked like there was

648
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Speaker 1: a jet pack strapped to his back. He just burned

649
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Speaker 1: everybody down the sideline. And that kind of tells you

650
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: who this offense is um in terms of explosion, because

651
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: you know what you get in Tom Brady. You have

652
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: somebody who is a master of pre snap reads and

653
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: get the ball out on time to open guys and

654
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: when you leave them up and now these this is

655
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: a defense that has two good corners in Xavian Howard

656
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: and Byron Jones, made them look like it was nothing.

657
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: The second touchdown pasted Antonio Brown was a hard slant

658
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: out of a trips bunch set where he just they

659
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: basically ran Xavian Howard through traffic and all he had

660
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: to do was hit Antonio Brown in the chest for

661
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: a touchdown and of course he's going to catch it.

662
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: A complete performance from them, especially on the offensive side

663
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Speaker 1: of the ball. H Brady looking as good as ever,

664
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Speaker 1: even at his advanced age. And this is, you know,

665
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Speaker 1: after two weeks of a little bit of concern about

666
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,719
Speaker 1: their offense. You know, they can't keep pace with the Rams.

667
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: They struggle to put up points in the rain in Foxboro.

668
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: What's going on with the Buccaneers. Nothing. They just needed

669
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: some nice weather and an ability to run away with

670
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: the game in the fourth quarter at home. I think

671
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: they just gotta be, you know, in a good situation.

672
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: They were at home today. This was the most like

673
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty bucks like game especially of any they've played,

674
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: because that this is who they were last year. It

675
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: was just kind of treadwater for much of the game

676
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: and then bam, you scored one in the fourth, or

677
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: you score seventeen in the second. They just go avalanche

678
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: when they go big. And the Dolphins are now sitting

679
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: here at one in four and I know no one

680
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: expected them to win this game, but they are thirty

681
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: one in yards end points scored in yards gained, and

682
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: their thirtie in points you know allowed in thirty yards allowed.

683
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: So they are objectively one of the worst teams in

684
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Speaker 1: the NFL. And and it really is a warning. It's

685
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: tough for these defensive coaches who were trying to build

686
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: teams around their coverages and their in their defenses, because

687
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: when that starts to not work, you've got nothing left.

688
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: They know they get to a back next week. They're

689
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: coming over here to London. But Henry Hodges and our

690
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: buddy was worried that he was gonna be in the

691
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: same situation that Dan was Uh after a difficult London defeat,

692
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: thinking like, what where is this season going? Yeah, you know,

693
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: I give a lot of credit for Jacoby Presette for

694
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Speaker 1: playing through that injury. But this is basically who they're

695
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: going to be, even with two of coming back. I

696
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: don't really see them taking a big step forward when

697
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: they have the football. Now. They were in this game,

698
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: and you give them credit for that. They were competitive

699
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: until the fourth quarter, but ultimately I haven't seen a

700
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: performance from them that tells me that you know, they

701
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,959
Speaker 1: had that close one against the Raiders and that's great,

702
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: but like, I haven't seen a performance from them that

703
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: tells me that that they're a legit contender, that they're

704
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 1: gonna get anywhere near where they were last season. So, uh,

705
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: you're right, It's it's tough to to kind of you know,

706
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Speaker 1: you think that they don't get after the quarterback that much.

707
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: Well they actually Tom Brady was under pressure sent amount today,

708
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: but he was just really good under pressure. And so

709
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: you know, there's not a lot to say other than that.

710
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: You hope that they turned around and start heading upward,

711
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: but it's been a tough stretch for them. I don't

712
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: really hope that's fine. The double a misery enjoys company. Um,

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00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: all right, so the Dolphins needed to win, they didn't

714
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: get it. The Pittsburgh Steelers needed to win, did they

715
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: against the Broncos. Let's check it out. Bridgewater couch catch

716
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: the shotgun. Stop, he's back on fourth down, throws it

717
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: for the end zone. Incept it and that is Jake

718
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: Pere and their Steelers intercept dot first is an interception

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Speaker 1: by the DETAI first sound Pittsburgh and they're secured their victory.

720
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Speaker 1: I'm much awaited victory. Bill Hill grow with the call

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00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: w d V the Broncos. You know, they were down

722
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: by eighteen in the fourth quarter, but then Teddy Bridgewater

723
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: in the offense got hot. But James Pierre stepped up

724
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: with eleven seconds to play end zone interception. Steelers fans exhale, Steelers, exhale.

725
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: You are back with the wind calm nineteen three game

726
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: losing streak over and shook the good vibes around. The

727
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: Broncos start now starting to get some clouds above mile high.

728
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: They are now three two. Um. It looked like, uh

729
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 1: in a little bit of the game that I saw

730
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: here shook that Ben Roethlisberger in the offense made some

731
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: strides here. Yeah, they finally woke up. I mean the

732
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: Broncos were staying woken up before the fourth quarter, but

733
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: the Steelers had some wife for the first time offensively

734
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: all season. You know that we talked about in the

735
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: last four weeks that they haven't been able to score

736
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: more than seventeen points offensively in a game. They hit

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00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: that at halftime today. It started with another long touchdown

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Speaker 1: pass from Ben Roethlisberger to Deonte Johnson and it continued

739
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: from there. And it's funny because as I was watching

740
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: this game, I thought, man, he's really getting the ball

741
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: out quickly. You know, he's not really hanging onto it,

742
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: not giving his offensive line a lot of time to

743
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: screw up and get him sacked or you know, force

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00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: a turnover. And they looked up the time to throw

745
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: stats next Jens stats. Ben Roethlisberger is the fastest when

746
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: it comes to time to throw in the entire league

747
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: over the course of the season. So he's been getting

748
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: the ball out quickly. It's just a matter of they

749
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: really got anywhere with it. Well, today they got somewhere

750
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: with it. He had over two or fifty passing. You

751
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: get it out quickly when you throw at two yards

752
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: to Naja has every day exactly. Naja Harris had a

753
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: good game, by the way, his first like legitimately strong game.

754
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: I think in his career. Yeah, well that's and that's

755
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: the difference too, is Chase Claypool and Ben Roethlisberger finally

756
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: found their connection that they had that they rode to

757
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: that hot start last year. It's it's I felt like

758
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: I was back in Week six of last season watching

759
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: them today. He hit him on multiple attempts long completions.

760
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: He ended up with five catches for a hundred thirty

761
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown. The touchdown over the middle was

762
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: key because it almost looked like the dagger, and I

763
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: guess it ultimately did because they the Broncos didn't finish

764
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: off that comeback attempt. But it was just really encouraging

765
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: from the Steelers point of view because this is an

766
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: offense that's been very stuck in the mud, and they

767
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: weren't today. They they looked a lot like they did

768
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: last year, and it gives you a little bit of

769
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: hope that if they can sustain this, they have a

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00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: good enough defense to be in most games. If they

771
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: can sustain this enough to just put up twenty seven

772
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: points or so in a game, then they might end

773
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: up winning more games than when we thought a week ago.

774
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of doing that consistently, and and

775
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: it also you call in a question, you know, who

776
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: do the Broncos playing the first three weeks of the season.

777
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: I know that they were even aware of that. Von

778
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: Miller even said, hey, you know, we know what the

779
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: schedule is, and now it turns into playoffs and they're

780
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: going to that Ravens game, and ultimately they didn't play

781
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: very well in that game. So it's like, well, our

782
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: opinion of the Broncos and on the defensive side of

783
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: the ball, was it a little too inflated based on

784
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: what we've seen from them in the last two weeks.

785
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: That could be true. I know the Steelers capitalized on

786
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: that today. So it's a little bit of let's wait

787
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: and see. But it's better for the Steelers now at

788
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: two and three than it would have looked if they

789
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: were one and four going into next week. Did your

790
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 1: opinion of Denver change at all? Shook? Uh? Between where

791
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: they're at now and where they were a couple weeks

792
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 1: ago A little bit, just because I wasn't really sure

793
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: who the Broncos were. I mean, I know, I know

794
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: Greg number one leader on the on the Teddy BANDA

795
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: They're not who they want to be they're missing seven

796
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 1: or eight storry. They gotta survive this dip and get

797
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: people back or they're not there too ordinary. And they did.

798
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: They got they got some of their offensive line back.

799
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't take much out of that Steelers thing.

800
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: They're gonna have some variant offensive days. They were also lucky,

801
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: you said, like Roethlisberg got the ball out of his hands.

802
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: He had one of the most ghastly fumbles I've had

803
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: he's had all season, holding the ball too long. He

804
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: also hand delivered a terrible interception in the red zone

805
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: where they ended up getting a touchdown and the Broncos

806
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: just dropped it. He put it right in Alexander Johnson's arms,

807
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: and if he catches that pass and it's a different game.

808
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: And in the last couple of weeks they they've been

809
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: catching those Roethlisberger passes and this time they dropped it

810
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: and they end up getting a touchdown a couple of

811
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: plays later after a penalty. Hey, Um, Graver, can you

812
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: jump in a second. I just noticed now, Greg that

813
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: you know we're having grave Digger. Um joined the show

814
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: to do the Sunday Night Football recap with Shook, but

815
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: they've never met before. So this is like one of

816
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: those great experiments in chemistry, and we just gotta we

817
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: just gotta hope at all goes for the best. If

818
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: you guys want to exchange pleasantries right now ahead of

819
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: the recap coming up later tonight, Greg, Eric and myself,

820
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: we'll get out of the way. Hey, hey Graver, I'm Nick.

821
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 1: I'm the bald guy on the screen and looking forward

822
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: to doing Sunday Night with you. Hopefully it goes as

823
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: well as it did for the Steelers today. We'll see Hey, Nick,

824
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: big fan, long time listener of this show. Yeah not

825
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: maybe not the first time, but you know, excited to

826
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: do Sunday Night with you. You can't you can't create

827
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: that chemistry in a lab. That's just natural. Baby, get ready.

828
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: Chiefs Bills coming up later. Choock, Thank you buddy, Uh

829
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: and uh we'll see you on the other side of

830
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: the pond. Alright, thanks. It was like a really bad

831
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: tender date or Something's all right, let's move on. Prescott

832
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: in the gun, they blitz him. Prescott throws it down

833
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: the right side for lamp to funding touchdown. They need

834
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: to play. There's a play. Brad Sham, the sham God

835
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: with the call for kr ld Dak Prescott through for

836
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: three touchdowns one day before the anniversary of that ankle

837
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: injury in the same building against the same team. The

838
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys ride strong, and they ride on talk got injuries

839
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: looking listen. Attrition is part of the NFL. It sucks,

840
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: but it's true and the Giants know all about it.

841
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: Se Kwan Barkley steps on um the foot of another

842
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: player at the conclusion of a play when he's looking

843
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: in the other direction, and it blows up so credibly

844
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: quickly on the sideline that he's carded off. And I

845
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: think there might be a ricky if you could check.

846
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: I thought I saw maybe an update pop up, but

847
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: I didn't get a good look at it. He's out

848
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: of the game. Daniel Jones gets knocked out late in

849
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 1: the first half, literally um concussed on a scramble where

850
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: he got up woozy. Really a scary moment. Kenny Golladay

851
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: also leaves with a knee injury. So a game that

852
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: was ten ten after Mike Lennon comes in and hands

853
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: off on fourth and inches at the goal line to

854
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: tie the game. Um the Cowboys go right down the

855
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: field to pull ahead seventeen ten, and then you kind

856
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: of knew Greg what was going to happen after that.

857
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: With the Giants as decimated as they are and with

858
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys as good as they are at Jarro World,

859
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: it turns into a blowout. Yeah, like the let Glennan

860
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 1: Cook uh philosophy didn't really pay off and they scored

861
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: ten points in the second half of What Are You

862
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: Gonna Do? It's just so crazy how big of a

863
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: difference series between one and four and two and three.

864
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: The Steelers got two and three, You're like, okay, well,

865
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: you know they could stay around with Patriots at two

866
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: and two. It's like, okay, like at least the Giants

867
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: at one and four. And because of these injuries, just

868
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: feels like everything from last week is totally erased. And

869
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 1: then something Darius Tony, like the one guy who popping

870
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: off the screen and you see that burst with him

871
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: today he ends up getting kicked out of the game

872
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: late because of fighting, uh, and he gets hurt in

873
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: the game and was seen on a car afterwards too,

874
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: so he's hurt too. He who knows he might be

875
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: suspended for next week's game. And it suddenly just feels

876
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 1: not like the lights are out for Joe Judge or anything,

877
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: but that if the Giants come back to be relevant

878
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: this year, that would that would be a big surprise.

879
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: So here's the situation with the NFC East and how

880
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: it's different from last year. Last year, even before Dac

881
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: went out with that ankle injury, the Cowboys were kind

882
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: of a mess. They couldn't get a stop on defense,

883
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: and and they were in a tough spot. And you

884
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: just knew that when it came down to its seven

885
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: eight wins, was gonna win that division and everyone else

886
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: was gonna be below five d and that would be it.

887
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: And that's how it played out. Now we don't we

888
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: know that's not how the East is gonna play out.

889
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: Barring another injury to the Cowboys, um, they are going

890
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: to be a team that we It appears now, I mean,

891
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: five games into the season, this looks like a ten twelve. Yes,

892
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: like Daniels one for eight, Like even before Daniel Jones

893
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 1: left he finished five for thirteen, and they're getting pressure

894
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: like they're they're legitimately good defensive, better than average defense.

895
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: And even if they're average, Rayvon Diggs had another pick.

896
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: He's up to six in five games, maybe seven, and

897
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: and he is a defensive Player of the Year candidate.

898
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: And like the Chargers when things are clicking, like the

899
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: Browns when things are clicking, the Cowboys are now out

900
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: of nowhere in that category, not that they don't have

901
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: maybe the the peak defensively. The Bills all thrown there

902
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: as well as another team that has really big days

903
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, the Bucks, of course

904
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: as well, like the Cowboys. May you say it's a

905
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: little premature to say they are that team, but they

906
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: are putting it up week after week, big performances on

907
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, and uh, you know, I

908
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: think that if you're a Cowboys fan, you're feeling very

909
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: good about this division. And if you're a Giants fan,

910
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: because there's no path to the division title, most likely

911
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go on an incredible winning streak

912
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: at some point. And nothing tells you that this Giants

913
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: team is going to do that every year. You know.

914
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 1: I used to write the debrief the Sunday night, sort

915
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: of recapping the week or what happened to see this.

916
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: I think there's some version of it now, but I

917
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: stopped doing it. I don't even know they're not using

918
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: that name, but every year it's like one one of

919
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: the Sundays that the headline of it would be like

920
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: Separation Sunday. You know, it's like this is where the

921
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: divisions were decided and separate, like today was Separation Sunny.

922
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: Like the NFC West is over. It's separated three games,

923
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of game lead there the the

924
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: I mean the NFC East, the NFC West though kind

925
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 1: of had a separate and Sunday too. We talked about

926
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: coming into the week where the Rams and Cardinals have

927
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: really pulled ahead, like it totally matters what the teams

928
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: in your division are doing and the rest of the

929
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: NFC has to feel pretty hopeless. Right now, you got

930
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: that out, Yeah, just out. Barkley has a low ankle sprain,

931
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: so he's likely out for next week. That just popped

932
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: against against the Rams. So Daniel Jones will see he's

933
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: in the concussion protocol. Um. All the receivers all sorts

934
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: of banged up, and Barkley is out. So this sounds

935
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: because they couldn't run the ball from one yard out

936
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: in the two plays before that, and so they had

937
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: to use him running and he got a little he

938
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: got a little too aggressive on that brutal All right,

939
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: let's take a break and then we will keep moving

940
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: on Hurts. He gives it and he runs in and

941
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: in the touchdown the Eagles the first lead of the game. Hey,

942
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: feeling right now, Greg, like I could be doing a

943
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: better job. Probably we're doing our best. People. It is

944
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning in London and we've been awake, Ricky.

945
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: I think we've been awake on average about eighteen hours

946
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: a day for five straight days. So we're doing the

947
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: best weekend. We hope it's okay. Everybody looked up the

948
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: pull back the curtain for a second. I just heard

949
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: them say like deep past to Josh Gordon, and I

950
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: was like, I must be hallucinating with the Sunday Night

951
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: in the back. I didn't, And I missed Shook being

952
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: on because I ordered room service right before we started

953
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: it arrived while the shows was on and was shook here.

954
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: I could hit mute and just kind of and you

955
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: were bending over eating your sandwich below the desk. Well, yeah,

956
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: I didn't want you guys to have to look at

957
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: me move being on because he fell asleep during that

958
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: four minute part of the program. But now we're all

959
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: awake again. Merrioris with the call. W I p Jalen Hurts,

960
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: jay Lin Hurts uh running ran for ran for two

961
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: second half touchdowns. On Sunday, the Eagles wipe out a

962
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: twelve point deficit, beating the Panthers. Uh so the Eagles

963
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: snap at three game losing three. Good for Connie. You

964
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: know we're not We're not the only ones grinding. Connie

965
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: had to be in a makeup chair at two am

966
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: for Christ's sake, uh this morning to do the pregame

967
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: for the London game here. Uh what a woman? But

968
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,959
Speaker 1: uh yeah, so Greg, in addition to so the two

969
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: three and to go home and you know, relax, relaxes.

970
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: Oh she's relaxed right now. That's all that needs to

971
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: be said. Um So the two teams, Greg, that we

972
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: entered week four, I'll talk about my podcast partner like

973
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: that Split ends podcast. Check it out. Okay, Um the

974
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: two teams the Panthers of the Broncos three. Oh what's

975
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: going on? Those teams are both oh and four now

976
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: combined since and that's a tough loss for the Panthers,

977
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: A bad beat, as they say. I like that. I

978
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: like more two and three and three and two teams.

979
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: I like that one of cross teams out. I don't

980
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: want teams that are kind of mediocre like Carolina to

981
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: get too ahead of their skis and be four and one.

982
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: So it feels like these two teams, you know, reaching

983
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: the level that should be an interesting way to look

984
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: at it. But I agree with you, I see, yeah,

985
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: I just kind of like like keeping him as many

986
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: teams as interesting as possible. And one of the moments

987
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: of the day for me is Jalen Hurts scoring that

988
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: touchdown and doing the cam Superman in Carolina. I'm sure

989
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: he was a Camp fan. I don't know that, but

990
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: who couldn't you know, I'm sure he was a Camp fan.

991
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: Who wouldn't be uh, and to do that there after?

992
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: You know, a really rough day for Hurts where at

993
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: one point I think he had thrown twenty passes for

994
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: about thirty five yards, but his defense, which you know,

995
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: looks a lot better when you're not playing the Chiefs

996
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys, kept him in at all game. Hardgrave

997
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: and Fletcher Cox both had big days, and Carolina and

998
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: Sam Donald give the ball away three times three interceptions,

999
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: and and that Eagles defense keeps it close and eventually

1000
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: they've hit some of their big plays that they're always trying. Yeah,

1001
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: this is a game that I think both Greg and

1002
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 1: I have to get closer eyes on. But Sam Donald

1003
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: got it totally figured out. There's like a glow to

1004
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: you actually, like the like all the information is like

1005
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: coming out of your head. Sam Donald seven one seventy seven, touchdown,

1006
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: three picks, averaging four point eight yards per tempt. That's

1007
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: way below the Gabbard zone. Jalen Hurts not much better

1008
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: in terms of yards per tempt at five point four.

1009
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: But you know, this is how it is. This is

1010
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: how it's gonna be with the Panthers and Christian McCaffrey.

1011
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: By that, I mean, don't ask Donald to carry you

1012
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: because that's not really who he ever was, and I

1013
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: don't think that's who he's gonna be. But he could

1014
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: absolutely be effective, but he's gonna need more help. Chuba

1015
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: Hubbard did a nice job. He went for a hundred

1016
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: yards in relief of Christian McCaffrey, who you think is

1017
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: going to be back soon now because he practiced this

1018
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 1: week leading into the game. But they need McCaffrey back

1019
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: because he is the center. Without it, it just doesn't

1020
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: hold that offense. No, they their offensive line is giving

1021
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: up a lot of secks eleven I think in the

1022
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: last three weeks. Donald's down to six touchdowns six interceptions

1023
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: on the season. He's fumbled the ball a lot like

1024
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: the the words are showing a little bit and they

1025
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: need to play a little bit better up front. Speaking

1026
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 1: of a Warts are showing the Raiders play fake fields rolling.

1027
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: It was right hit as he delivers into the end zone, touchdown,

1028
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: just spur horsh dead touchdown Bears. What do you say,

1029
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: desperate horses? Jester desper Horstead, what a name Desperate Housewives

1030
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 1: on Netflix? Justin Fields there his first career touchdown pass. Congratulations,

1031
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: young man. The Bears defense falling out here, shut down

1032
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: the Raiders offense. Twenty nine dabars with the dub uh

1033
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: Derek Carr. He manages two hundred and six yards. That's

1034
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: two straight losses for the Raiders, the first time they've

1035
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: ever lost. People in the fans of people in the

1036
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: stands at Allegiance Stadium. Um, so let's talk Bears here,

1037
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: Greg because um, justin Fields. It couldn't have started any worse. Obviously,

1038
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: his first action. But now we're starting to see some

1039
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: incremental gains. And meanwhile Chicago's defense saying, Hi, remember us, um,

1040
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: we might be able to keep this team in some games,

1041
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: and maybe we got something cooking here. How about that?

1042
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: They've they've been pretty good this season, this Bears defense.

1043
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: I think they've been underrated. They've been top ten dv

1044
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: o A throughout. They held the Bengals down. Uh, they

1045
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: kept the Browns in check for most of that game.

1046
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: And here they come shand Sai, you know, a trailblazer,

1047
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: the first coordinator of Indian descent, Uh to get this job,

1048
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: a Fangio Fongio disciple, and uh, he's done a good job.

1049
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: And I think for the Raiders, you know, as good

1050
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: as the Bears defense is and as as encouraged to

1051
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: have a day like this where you can't score touchdowns

1052
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: at all, that that's just not who they need, who

1053
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna be there, just they can't be a defensive

1054
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: team the Raiders, like it is a big problem after

1055
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: the week that John Gruden has had to put up

1056
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: a performance like this, and then a bunch of the reporters,

1057
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: you know, get stuck in an elevator and can't even

1058
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: ask him questions after the game. It's just like suddenly,

1059
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: all the good feelings from literally seven days ago are

1060
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: totally gone in Las Vegas. Yes, that was and then

1061
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the elevator it was Mike Mayock

1062
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: with a giant scissor cutting the wires to the elevator.

1063
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Speaker 1: But some people did actually ask John Gruden about UH

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00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: the controversial email that had some derogatory racist language connected

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00:54:54,320 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 1: UH to Demorris Smith, the head of the players union UH,

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00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: and Gruden very uncomfortable answering the questions. Here's a snippet

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00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: of that pressor. You know, I'm not gonna answer all

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00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: these questions today. I think I've addressed it already. I

1069
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: can't remember a lot of the things that transpired ten

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00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: or twelve years ago. But um, I stand here in

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00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: front of everybody apologizing. I know I'm not I don't

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00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: have an ouncer of racism in me. I'm a guy

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00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: that takes pride in leading people together and I'll continue

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00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: to do that for the rest of my life. And again,

1075
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: I apologize to d Smith and anybody out there. So

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00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 1: Gruden now joins the head coach of the Jacksonville's Jaguars,

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00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, with off the field controversies of their own making,

1078
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: and UM Mike Floria of Pro Football Talk reported on

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00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: NBC Sunday Night that the league will be, um, you know,

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00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: doing a meeting of some kind on Monday to talk

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00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: about what happens next here with Gruden, but it probably

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00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: won't end with a suspension. And then in that same telecast,

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00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: Tony Dungee first Um and then UM Mike to Rico,

1084
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: his former Monday Night Football partner, both went to bat

1085
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: for Gruden, defending a man uh and his character. Uh So,

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00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, it is a tough situation here, uh. And

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00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: Gruden has none to blame but himself. Very stupid, right,

1088
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: And I don't I don't know. Hearing Tariko talk about it,

1089
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: it's disappointing. It put if you're John Gruden, you've put

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00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: people in a in a difficult spot. And I'm not

1091
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: talking about Tariko and in Dungee or whatever. But I

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00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: think a lot of people who know how Tarrico worked

1093
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: with there are rolling their eyes at that. You know,

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00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: you know what he said was Demoras Smith has the

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00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: lips the size of michel Entires and the the apology

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00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: that he put up trying to explain it almost gas

1097
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: lighting people into thinking, uh, that he didn't say what

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00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 1: he said when he obviously said exactly what he said,

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00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: and that really I don't think he's gone out of

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00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: his way to own it. He's he's sort of like

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00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: kind of apologizing and he's using that line, I don't

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00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: have an ounce of racism in me, which is always

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00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 1: a red flag if you hear that. And he can

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00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: think that that too much has been made out of it,

1105
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: or he cannot, but he's got to make sure that

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00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: his players, his locker room full of majority black men, um,

1107
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: understand what he's saying in respect it. And they were

1108
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: getting asked questions about it and they're giving no comments

1109
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: on it sometimes like you're not unique a got weight tonight.

1110
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's hard to know where that's gonna go. Um,

1111
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: but it's it's not as simple as the Urban Meyer

1112
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: thing to me. To me, the Urban Meyer thing is

1113
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: more of a joke. And this we'll see, we'll see

1114
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: what kind of impact it has with Gruden going forward. Yeah,

1115
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: and it just where you see the Raiders are now

1116
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: and where they were ten days ago or whatever it was. Um,

1117
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: it is night and day. Uh, they went from three

1118
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: and oh on top of the world to three and

1119
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: two with a very ugly situation involving the head coach

1120
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: and a lot of unanswered questions about what happens next.

1121
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: Never a dull moment with the silver and black. Let's

1122
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: move on, sun Spot, Joseph, excellent, way get up there, ye,

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00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: Ministoto Blakans have defeated the Detroit Lions nineteen seven teen.

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00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: You're a man. Thank Paul Allen, who's been sleeping in

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00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: his bed for about nine hours. I think at this

1126
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: point we're really pumped some life into the show. Here

1127
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: at to twenty in the morning kf A n with

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00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: a beautiful call. There, Yes, Greg Joseph only two gs

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00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: and that Greg Greg with three gs, but a big

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00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: victory for the two Greg Greg's today a fifty four

1131
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: yard field goals times fired. Vikings nineteen seventeen win avoid

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00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: catastrophe against the Lions in their own building, a game

1133
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: in which the Vikings lost the ten point lead with

1134
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: less than three minutes to play to the Lions, I

1135
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: mean the Viking whatever. Sometimes this organization, and this comes

1136
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: from the fan of a ridiculous organization. Sometimes the Vikings

1137
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: are just ridiculous and that's what happened here. But to

1138
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: their credit, her cousins got the ball back with limited time,

1139
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: got them in field gold position. And Greg Joseph the

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00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: same Greg Joseph here v M Joseph um far and

1141
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: away um the same Greg Joseph who missed the gimme

1142
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: to cost them the game in Week two against the Cardinals,

1143
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: now saves their ass in a huge spot here. So

1144
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: even Stephen Ah and after the game, Greg Dan Campbell, Gosh,

1145
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: the Lions, I know, I know the Lions are going anywhere.

1146
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: We all know that. But they're trying to build something.

1147
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: And they've come so close now to a couple of

1148
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: wins and getting their hearts ripped out. And Campbell a

1149
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: hulking man, a colossus. He's like six four to sixty,

1150
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: all muscle and might reduce the tears at the podium

1151
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: after the game. Let's listening. When you when you see

1152
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: your players give all that they have and uh, and

1153
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: you lose that way. It's tough, you know, you don't

1154
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: want that for them. So um, but we'll be better

1155
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: for it, you know. And there again credit Minnesota, but um,

1156
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: you know, but we we made the one mistake that

1157
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: cost us. You know and uh and so ultimately you

1158
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: know it. Uh, we didn't We didn't do enough too then.

1159
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: But I was proud of them and I love the

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01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: fight they have in him. Ton of support Greg for

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01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: Campbell after the game, I mean, in which you love it,

1162
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: you love the passion. This is sports, that's what it's

1163
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: all about. But it's a bit of a high water,

1164
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: high wire emotional act in Detroit for Dan Campbell. Um,

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01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: I hope he's doing okay. I hope it doesn't wear

1166
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: out the team eventually. There's just a lot of emotions

1167
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: going on in Detroit. But yeah, that's a tough loss.

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01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: You just think of the way they've lost games, and

1169
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: you think of how much like Dan Campbell and that

1170
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: team is put in since ot as mini camp, but

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01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: now the course of the season, and it's like if

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01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: at the end of our day, Dan here, you know,

1173
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: however long it's been like right at the end of

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01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: our podcast, someone just like comes over to us and

1175
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: it's just like, loser. You're a big loser. You get

1176
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: nothing out of everything you've done this week and the

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Speaker 1: whole show, right, we didn't take the whole show. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's the equivalent you are this window By the way,

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Speaker 1: if anything got deleted here, there is no re recording.

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01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: The podcast is over there never again, never no show

1181
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: for the rest of the time. It's crazy. I mean,

1182
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: my immediate reaction was like, what are you doing, Vikings,

1183
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: like to have a ten point lead to not to

1184
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: only put up nineteen points on this line's defense, the

1185
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: way they've played in all the pieces that they're missing,

1186
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: and I go to look like, Okay, what did Detroit

1187
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: actually do too to make this comeback? And their second

1188
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: half possessions are like interception, one first down, punt, three

1189
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: and out, two first downs, punt, lots of downs on

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01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: like a four and out basically, and then they moved

1191
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: the ball thirty nine yards and twenty yards because Madison

1192
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: fumbled the ball to set up that thing. I mean,

1193
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: it's just ridiculous. And the Vikings, to Kirk Cousins credit,

1194
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: really pulled out of their ask because they had the

1195
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: ball at the eighteen yard line with thirty nine seconds

1196
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: to go. That's less likely than what Aaron Rodgers and

1197
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: Davante Adams did against the forty niners a couple of

1198
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: weeks ago. That is a tough situation to even get

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Speaker 1: a field goal. Attempt and they got it. So you

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01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: gotta give Kirk a little bit of credit, and let's

1201
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: give it. I mean, you cut Justin Tucker doesn't play

1202
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: until tomorrow night, and if you cut to the Kicker Club,

1203
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: he was in there and he was waiting for people

1204
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: to join him in the Kicker Club and there's nobody

1205
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: there because the Kickers stunk today. They missed eleven p

1206
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: A t s, missing field goals. It's a whole disaster.

1207
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: That's I guess that's what's playing in the Kicker Club

1208
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: and break Joseph walks in and he says to Justin,

1209
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: you're not alone too. I'm with you. Stats said that

1210
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: there was a two point six percentage. We're trying to

1211
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: close this show. We're trying to take this to the

1212
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: finish line band. But it was a very hard kick

1213
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: to make and I'm really excited that he made it.

1214
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: It was really fun to watch. Joseph made four field goals,

1215
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: including a career best fifty five yard or um. But

1216
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: we'll finished. What was the next jetson? I'm sorry, No,

1217
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: it's basically exactly what you just said. It's exactly what

1218
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: you just said. You just you summed it up no,

1219
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: I was that was rude. I'm a little bit sandwich

1220
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: waiting for me. It's like the first real meal, um

1221
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: that I've had since the morning waiting they had this.

1222
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: Uh listen, England is many things, but one thing it

1223
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: is not is a place that offers really good food.

1224
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: In the media room. The the duck wrap sandwich didn't

1225
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: quite hit them hit the spot for the old zeuser.

1226
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: So I've been subsisting on uh things we could find,

1227
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: like under tables and in bags, basically foraging like wild animals. Uh.

1228
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: That club sandwich is called my name and I'm starting.

1229
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: I only got three more games. We've got it. Just

1230
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: that I just want to again apologize for cutting you off.

1231
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: Your next gen stat was essential and trenchant. But that

1232
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: he's tired, Daddy's ready to get on the plane. Well then, Dan,

1233
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Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna love that. We're going to take

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01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: another break. Change the snap. Now he's gonna run up

1235
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: the pocket climbing. Now he's going to forward deep into

1236
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: the end zone. It's gonna be a chopball. Marks Callaway

1237
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: is there and I think he's got it. It looks

1238
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: like Mark West Callaway came down with the chop All

1239
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: New Orleans callaway touchdown Michael Thomas who Mike Coss with

1240
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: a call w w L Yes Hail Mary was one

1241
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: of Jameis Winston's yeah greggy four touchdown passes. He also

1242
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: had two kind of grim turnovers. That's just what it's

1243
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: all about with Jamis. Uh Saints beat the football team

1244
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: thirty three twenty two, so they're able to greg move on,

1245
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: while the Giants are unable to build on what happened

1246
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: at the Superdome last week. They're big comeback win. The

1247
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: Saints now move away from that game in a positive way.

1248
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: They do, And yet I can't help but thinking as

1249
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: any quarterback ever played worse in two games where he's

1250
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: combined for nine touchdowns than Jamis wins then in like

1251
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: Week one in here, not that he played bad in

1252
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: Week one, he played great. He played fine, but like

1253
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: he didn't have to do too much in this game,

1254
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna watch it closer. Had a lot of

1255
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: iffy Jamis moments, which again led to Sean Payton playing

1256
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: a little conservative punting on fourth into plane to his defense,

1257
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: and you know what, when you have this defense against Taylor,

1258
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: Heineke making mistakes in the red zone and when it

1259
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: gets constricted, Marshaw and Lattimore in the gang like they

1260
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: know how to cover, they know how to swap off

1261
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 1: wide receivers play into your defense. Sounds pretty smart. They

1262
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: made they got the takeaways they needed, and they ended

1263
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: up walking away handing it to a K forty one.

1264
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: We saw a lot of Camara jerseys uh in the

1265
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: stadium today and Uh, he ends up with over a

1266
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: hundred forty and two touches. And that's their recipe. They

1267
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: just gotta get a little better at it. On the

1268
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: other side of the running backs, Uh. Tough stat line

1269
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: for Antonio Gibson. Well, I shouldn't say that he had

1270
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, but twenty carries for sixty yards. You don't

1271
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: see that a lot that the old six in a

1272
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: big spot. Uh. And Taylor Heineke, he's gonna need help

1273
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: because you know he's an up and down type player.

1274
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: And yeah, he completed less than half of his passes,

1275
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: had the two picks. Um. Yeah, I still you know

1276
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: this is nice. I'll be you know, looking closer more

1277
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: closely at this game as well. Greg. But they're in

1278
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: a good spot here now because they got watched. They

1279
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: took care of business against Washington here who still can't

1280
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: seem to figure it out on a defense. I guess

1281
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: they just have a bad defense. Um, now they get

1282
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: to go to Seattle to face Geno Smith Greggy who. Um.

1283
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: We did our Thursday night recap and it was unclear

1284
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: at that time what was going on with going on

1285
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson. But now we know that ruptured tendon

1286
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: that Wilson suffered and Thursday Nights lost to the Rams

1287
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: required surgery and he could be out anywhere from four

1288
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: to eight weeks, it sounds like, and maybe closer to six.

1289
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,479
Speaker 1: So it's Geno time, baby, a lot of sipping on Veno.

1290
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: And I know you're worried about it. Well, yes, and

1291
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna beat nging the name of this pod to

1292
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: the Geno Pod. That's pretty much what we're gonna be

1293
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: focused on. Me my journey with Geno. Primarily, he's got

1294
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: to play the Steelers defense, he's got to play the

1295
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: Saints defense. I mean, he drew two of the better

1296
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: groups and he doesn't have a lot with him. But

1297
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: that's what the preview pods are gonna be for. In Geno.

1298
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: That sounds like when I was gonna say. It sounds

1299
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: like when the guys from in Syncs started splintering off,

1300
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: but not not the Timberlake split off split off there

1301
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 1: like the J C. Chase a solo projects where it's

1302
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: just the Geno pod Just that would that that might

1303
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 1: be cool, like a limited series where I just we

1304
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: just really tackle the Geno Smith h in for Russell

1305
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: Wilson era and ends as soon as Rust is back.

1306
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 1: We might be onto something. I know I heard giving

1307
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: podcasts away at this point, So let's, oh wow, get

1308
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: a dig in at four thirty in the morning. Let's

1309
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: move on down and sick. From the third chap term

1310
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: Staff to Jones with the format lush throws it to

1311
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: the end zone open Heny slightly rap touchdown Patriots. Bob

1312
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: Socci with the call no Zolac. Guess he's a sleep too.

1313
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: Mac Jones quietly. I like Mac jones rookie year. So

1314
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: far for the Pats. It hasn't been all roses, but

1315
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: he's certainly been more consistent than a lot of these rookies,

1316
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: including mine. Anyway, Jones led the the Pats to a

1317
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 1: touchdown drive to tie the game. Nick Fulke then booted

1318
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: a twenty one yard field goal fifteen seconds to play.

1319
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: The Pats survive against the Texans twenty two And uh, Ricky,

1320
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: I know you had eyes on this one because you

1321
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: are the resident die hard Patriots fan, let's face it,

1322
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: and uh, you weren't feeling too good. But they really

1323
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: did put it together, it seemed in the second half. Yeah.

1324
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 1: I mean if I told you that, like a quarterback

1325
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: was gonna throw on eleven yard touchdown, a sixty seven

1326
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,560
Speaker 1: yard touchdown in a thirty seven yard touchdown, would you

1327
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: be like, Oh, yeah, Davis Mills like the way that

1328
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: his passerating dwarfed like any other quarterbacks pass a ready

1329
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 1: against the Patriots this year, which is just like a

1330
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 1: go figure type uh situation, But you gotta give I

1331
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: had to have been the best box score any rookie

1332
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks had in a game this year, just pure box score,

1333
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: go figure. And the you know, to the Patriots credit Ricky,

1334
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 1: they had poor of their five offensive linemen. We're out

1335
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: of this game, and I know it's the exact opponent

1336
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 1: you want in that situation, but they were able to

1337
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: step up their reserves and uh take this one home

1338
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: and kind of stay in the playoff mix. Earlier. Yeah,

1339
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: I mean the the you know, the momentum sorry, Clay

1340
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: Bonn shift really happened when the Texans like set up

1341
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: this weird punt formation like they were going to almost

1342
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: go for it, but then they didn't, and then he

1343
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: was like too close to his coverage so he you know,

1344
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: um to to like his um what am I trying

1345
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 1: to say, protection, right, and he kicked the ball. They

1346
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 1: like blocked their own punt essentially, and so then that's

1347
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: it was. It was horrible. So like they're like, there's

1348
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: the zero yards like punt um, but the Paths when

1349
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 1: and scored on their next three possessions and that's basically

1350
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: what won the game. And as far as that, like,

1351
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: it's a it's a reason it's buried so low in

1352
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: this In this game, the Paths like ended up winning

1353
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: it out, but I don't think it was from anything

1354
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 1: like super impressive. I mean, did this game even happen.

1355
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: It's like the Patriots couldn't tell you Jexans they got

1356
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: here's who's on the call today, Catalan and James Lofton.

1357
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really it's really my rate what you

1358
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: have been saying, Dan, that they are just another team

1359
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: is is being born out week after week with with

1360
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: the broadcast. I'm just saying they're getting picked lower there.

1361
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: They're having announcers. They haven't done a Patriots game in

1362
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 1: along time. What do we all try to go to

1363
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: go to sleep at the same time, like right now,

1364
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 1: like one, two three, everybody closed their eyes. Let's see

1365
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 1: if we all fall asleep. Don't if I close my eyes.

1366
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: Did score sixteen straight points. They needed some mojo. This

1367
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: team had negative mojo. I know it came against the Texans,

1368
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 1: but any fourth quarter come back where you score ten

1369
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,759
Speaker 1: points with the rookie quarterback is a positive. And anytime

1370
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: when of your you know, two billion dollar tight ends

1371
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: can make a meaningful contribute, that's good as well. So

1372
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: good job by the Paths sincerely. I mean, they're like

1373
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: they're not special anymore. We all know that. And when

1374
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 1: they're injured as much as they are, and now they

1375
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: don't even have Steph Gilmore on the team. Uh, they

1376
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: found a way. We're not handing out lollipops, but a

1377
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 1: loss there would have been pretty grim, and they got

1378
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: the job done. Let us move on. Give me that

1379
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: club sandwich. Henry all the left side to the five.

1380
01:12:52,640 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 1: Henry did the goal line touch that Titans carries a

1381
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: one hundred thirty yards and count them one, two, three scords.

1382
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: All right, Greggy, I know you're not ready to fire

1383
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 1: back at Silva who And he's one of the wisest

1384
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: football men I know, especially in the fantasy sector. But

1385
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: he came after you a little soon on the Sam

1386
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: Donald thing. He I saw him sweet, it was it

1387
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: was important to him. Yeah, he was sticking it to

1388
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 1: you that you doubted Donald and Donald was now a star. Well,

1389
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 1: I gotta say the other thing about Silva. He said,

1390
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,759
Speaker 1: it's time to fade the big dog this year. Don't

1391
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: fade the big dog. Never fade the big dog. Derrick

1392
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 1: Henry ran for a hundred and thirty yards and three touchdowns.

1393
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: And then after that take and the Titans beat the

1394
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: Jacks thirty seven nineteen. That is twenty straight losses for

1395
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. And here we are again. We are more

1396
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: than a quarter of the way into the year now,

1397
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 1: and Derrick Henry leads league in rushing six dred and

1398
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: forty yards in five games. And the Titans bounced back

1399
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 1: after that grim lost to the Jets last week. The

1400
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: Jags defense has sort of been overlooked in It's an

1401
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: aptitude because you know Urban Meyer's ineptitude. Yeah, you're getting

1402
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: getting danced on in the Urban Meyer Lounge or whatever

1403
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: in there. And Trevor Lawrence, there's so much focus on that.

1404
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: At least he's had some moments that the defensive staff

1405
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: I think that Urban Meyer put together, and just the

1406
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: performance they just seemed so basic week after week, and

1407
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: so that's what you end up losing. You end up

1408
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 1: giving up thirty seven points to a team who's leading

1409
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 1: receivers Marcus Johnson, you know what I mean, and really

1410
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: have a real a j Brown And there's no Julio

1411
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 1: in this game. The Urban Meyer Lounge. I like that,

1412
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: but Jimmy is all that in the Urban Mayer Lounge.

1413
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: No camera phones here, don't worry. It's the Urban Meyer

1414
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: Lounge where you could be the man you've always wanted

1415
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 1: to be at the Urban or Lounge. Phil Columbus and

1416
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: he's he's been to the Urban Myers Bar many times.

1417
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 1: He says he wants to bring us there, and now

1418
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: we can go. It's it's I mean, it's a historic

1419
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: it's officially a place that can never be taken down

1420
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: by a wrecking ball. It is a must stop location

1421
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: in the history of our league. Titans. Good bounce back

1422
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: there the jag Yeah, twenty straight losses and uh, we

1423
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: keep on hearing these stats. Peter King heard it from

1424
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: him during the Sky Sports telecast. He won four games

1425
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: as he lost four games his entire life. Uh, and

1426
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: now he has lost five games in thirty seven days

1427
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I don't know where the ws are coming,

1428
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: but tough spot there for uh Mr number one overall pick.

1429
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,560
Speaker 1: I don't even know if Titans fan you want a

1430
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: little more like in depth coverage on your team's performance, Hey,

1431
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: how about don't lose to the Jets and then um,

1432
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 1: don't play team like the Jaguars in a week where

1433
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: we're in London and it's really hard to watch all

1434
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: the games at once. Also, we know you tanked at

1435
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: the end of last year, and we don't we don't

1436
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: appreciate that either. Like there is there's something called uh

1437
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: having integrity and I just you know, anyway, let's now

1438
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:21,799
Speaker 1: throw it, uh to the pipe and the great pipe

1439
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: and grave digger in the morning. Oh all right, Ricky,

1440
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: I want to stay until five am cooking up a

1441
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: sound drop pipe and grieve digger or it's great digger

1442
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: in the pipe. M pretty good, pretty good? Alright, throw

1443
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: it to them. Sunday Night football, Yes, Chiefs Bills Sunday

1444
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:53,520
Speaker 1: Night checking down and six throws. Touchdown right now, Emmanuel

1445
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: shanders in the second touchdown of the game. Oh we

1446
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: got a surprise eyes. The red hot Bills rolled into

1447
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: a rain soaked arrowhead and stunned the Chiefs, forcing four

1448
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,560
Speaker 1: turnovers in an upset win over the defending a f

1449
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: C champions Grave Digger A shocker in k C. Are

1450
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: the Bills the new Kings of the a f C

1451
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: until somebody knocks them off? Right now? I think you

1452
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 1: have to look at them that way. I mean, last

1453
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 1: week we thought the Cardinals were the best team in

1454
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 1: the league because they knocked off our previous best team,

1455
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: the Rams. Now we have the Cardinals struggled a little

1456
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:33,600
Speaker 1: bit today they came out out with the wind, but

1457
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 1: the Bills did not struggle. They dominated against what we

1458
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: expect to be one of the top contenders in the

1459
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: a f C. So now, I mean, it's a week

1460
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 1: to leak league, right. We reevaluate this stuff every week,

1461
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: But now I'm thinking, are the Bills the best team

1462
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:49,719
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and it looks like maybe so, although

1463
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: you really look at the close details in this game,

1464
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 1: and it's like, if the Chiefs just protect the ball,

1465
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: who knows the whole the final outcome could have been

1466
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: way different. At four to zero was a huge turnover margin. Yeah,

1467
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, if they if they protect the ball, if

1468
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,520
Speaker 1: they don't have to wait over an hour during halftime.

1469
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 1: At that point, the Bills had a pretty sizeable lead.

1470
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: It was twenty four to ten, but it felt like

1471
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 1: we actually but it felt like they were starting to

1472
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: build a little bit of momentum. But I think the

1473
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 1: most surprising thing about this is what has been the

1474
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 1: narrative for the Chiefs the last few years. It's been

1475
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna hit the big play. They're gonna be an

1476
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 1: explosive offense. You can't stop them. You can only hope

1477
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: to contain them. You have to win with ball control,

1478
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: you have to win by keeping their offense on the

1479
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: off the field, and and just you hope that they

1480
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: don't hit too many of those big time plays. Well, instead,

1481
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: the script was flipped. You had the Bills. Josh Allen

1482
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: completes fifteen passes throws for three hundred and fifteen yards

1483
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,560
Speaker 1: on those fifteen completions. It was the Bills hitting the

1484
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 1: big play. It was the Chiefs scrambling to try to

1485
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: keep up and then digging themselves deeper and deeper, trying

1486
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: too hard, making mistakes, like you said, the turnovers. It

1487
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 1: was very wet there because of the rain, but there

1488
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 1: were so much more to this. It was It felt

1489
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: like um like it was opposite day because instead of

1490
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: the Chiefs being the ones who were ahead or pressing

1491
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 1: the other team and getting them out of their comfort zone,

1492
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 1: it was the Bills. A dominant performance that I think

1493
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 1: is probably gonna leave a lot of people stunned for

1494
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 1: many weeks to come. The only question now, at least

1495
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: what I have in my head is we know what

1496
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: the narrative is gonna be going into into Monday and

1497
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: into this week. The Bills are the toast of the town.

1498
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna be jumping through tables all week. They're all excited.

1499
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: They are the new kings of the conference. But it

1500
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 1: is only week five. Can they do it again? If

1501
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: they were to meet in the playoffs, that remains to

1502
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: be seen. They couldn't do it last year, But I'll

1503
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 1: tell you what, they got a huge injection of confidence

1504
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: with their performance tonight. And you know, the playoffs are

1505
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 1: all about the teams that improve the most throughout the season.

1506
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: If you just look at from where we came from

1507
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 1: Week one, when the Bills lost to the Steelers and

1508
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: they had they had trouble moving the ball all game

1509
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 1: that that first week of the season, they didn't have

1510
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 1: any trouble moving the ball tonight, and they've they've already

1511
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 1: made huge strides in just you know, five weeks. We'll see.

1512
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to peak too soon. I

1513
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: don't think that that's sincesarily the case. But what's crazy

1514
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: to me is just looking at the play disparity in

1515
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 1: this game. Like you said, the big plays for the

1516
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: Bills four and thirty six total yards for the Bills

1517
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: on just fifty four plays. The Chiefs two yards, which

1518
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:24,839
Speaker 1: is a pretty productive game overall on seventy nine plays,

1519
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 1: and they won the time of possession battle to Kansas

1520
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 1: City did by almost five minutes. You look at those

1521
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 1: numbers and like you just said, you know, keeping Kansas

1522
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: City offense off the field clearly wasn't the recipe to

1523
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 1: beating them. But this is the story of the chief

1524
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,679
Speaker 1: season so far. To me, they keep losing these games

1525
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: because the turnovers. They they lost the turnover battle against

1526
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 1: the Chargers four to zero, lost that game, They had

1527
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 1: the fumbling away the game against the Ravens, lost that game.

1528
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: You look, I mean, when the playoffs seating comes out

1529
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 1: or it starts to be more important towards the end

1530
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: of the year and we really start talking about those things,

1531
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna look back on these Chiefs losses and think

1532
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 1: what could have been if they just didn't turn the

1533
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: ball over. Its sloppy play. It's almost hard to evaluate

1534
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 1: the Chiefs as a team because they keep just beating

1535
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 1: them sif we know how good they can be if

1536
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 1: they stopped beating themselves. But at a certain point, if

1537
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: you don't stop beating yourself, how good are you? Right? Yeah? Right?

1538
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean well? And I think the other interesting thing

1539
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: about this too is their issues aren't just that their

1540
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 1: defense is in keeping up with them, because right now

1541
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: they can't get out of their own way with the football.

1542
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: It was very uncharacteristic for them tonight, I think in

1543
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: the way that yes, it was rainy, and and that

1544
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 1: makes for a situation where you're gonna have guys who

1545
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 1: drop passes, but they were making mistakes that you just

1546
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: don't typically see from them. Patrick Mahomes and a few

1547
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 1: occasions was trying to fit balls into certain spots where

1548
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: his receivers might not have ended up there. And you

1549
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 1: could see him visibly frustrated by the middle of the

1550
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 1: third quarter that it just things weren't going according to plan.

1551
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't easy anymore. And for these Chiefs for the

1552
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 1: last few years, it's been so easy. It's remarkably easy,

1553
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 1: to the point where you're like, have we ever seen

1554
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: a team like this before that that has not been

1555
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 1: them this year when they've had the football for almost

1556
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: every game. In fact, the only game that I really

1557
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 1: think about where they really got it together was when

1558
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: they came back to beat the Browns in Week one

1559
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: and really got things rolling. And you look at those

1560
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 1: are the Chiefs of old and and you know, we

1561
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,600
Speaker 1: know their defense is gonna have issues as well, but

1562
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 1: I think that they don't look anything like they might

1563
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: not even win their division. I know we're only in

1564
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: the week five, but you're now staring at a two

1565
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 1: game deficit against a red hot Chargers team that doesn't

1566
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 1: look like it's slowing down. Yeah, exactly who you already

1567
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: lost to in a close game? Who has that mental

1568
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: mojo over you? Now? They went forward on fourth and nine, converted,

1569
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown, ends up holding on to win that game.

1570
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: They know they can beat you. Now, the Bills know

1571
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 1: they can beat you. Now you're in a little bit

1572
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 1: of a spot where you're gonna have to dig yourself

1573
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 1: out of not only a hole in the standings, but

1574
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 1: your own mental whole. Luckily, it is the biggest season

1575
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 1: ever with that extra games, and they got a lot

1576
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: of time to figure things out. And you're right, the

1577
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,639
Speaker 1: playoffs are all about the teams that corre the issues

1578
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: throughout the year and and start to peak. Then you hope,

1579
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 1: if you're a Bills fan, that they don't peak too early.

1580
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: If this is not their peak, then you better watch

1581
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 1: out the rest of the conference and and perhaps the

1582
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 1: entire NFL if they were able to get over the hump.

1583
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: And the thing is is the team that was seeing

1584
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 1: it in their way is the team that they just

1585
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 1: took control of tonight. Right, that's crazy, and you know

1586
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: something insane about this game, and just looking at the

1587
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: box score, the leading rusher for both teams was the

1588
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: team's quarterback. Josh Allen leads the Bills with fifty nine

1589
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: yards on eleven carries. Patrick Mahomes leads the Chiefs on

1590
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 1: sixt with with sixty one yards on eight carries. Clyde

1591
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: Edwards a Laire exited the game with a knee injury

1592
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: was quickly ruled out. We'll have to see what his

1593
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 1: status is going forward. But I don't even know if

1594
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: it makes a difference for the Chiefs offense. I mean,

1595
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 1: I don't think offense is their problem. I do think

1596
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: defense and penalties too. I mean, they had chances to

1597
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 1: get back in this game. I know it was really

1598
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: late in the game, but they did get an interception

1599
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 1: late that was turned over by roughing the passer penally.

1600
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 1: They just keep doing things to shoot themselves in the

1601
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 1: foot and and ruining their chances. But I don't know.

1602
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 1: I do think the Bills are are undoubtedly the team

1603
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: to beat right now. And as a Titans fan, I

1604
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: think it's noted on this show that I am looking

1605
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 1: ahead to next Monday night. That is scary. Titans play

1606
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 1: the Bills Monday and football next week, and Josh Allen

1607
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 1: looks like I mean through five weeks. If I had

1608
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 1: to name an m v P, I don't know, it's

1609
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 1: either him or Justin Herbert, probably one of those two guys. Yeah,

1610
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: it's funny that you mentioned that. We um Last week

1611
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 1: I wrote a piece for the top ten first time

1612
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: MVP candidates, you know, players who have not won an

1613
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: MVP before, and Josh Allen was high up on my list.

1614
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 1: But I when I dove into the numbers, I looked

1615
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 1: at it and I went, I'm actually gonna have a

1616
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 1: little bit of a hard time justifying this. You know,

1617
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 1: he's not in the top five in passing yards, or

1618
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 1: in the top five and passer rating or that type

1619
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 1: of thing. And yet when you watch this team every

1620
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 1: week now tonight is different. Of course, I may know

1621
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 1: it's he only went fifteen those three and or fifteen

1622
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: yards three touchdowns. That's gonna stand out, of course, But

1623
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: when you watch them play football, he doesn't need to

1624
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: put up, you know, three passing yards a game for

1625
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 1: them to win. Maybe in games like this against a

1626
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 1: team like the Chiefs, but they're playing they're a well

1627
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: old machine. The addition of Emmanuel Sanders, again, I can't

1628
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 1: say this enough. He just continues to be in the

1629
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 1: right place at the right time for them all the time.

1630
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you go from John Brown no offense, to

1631
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: John Brown. I know we get a lot of fans

1632
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: of Smoky out there, but uh, he's been an upgrade,

1633
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean and so many in so many ways, be

1634
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: just because of his veteran presence and his ability to

1635
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 1: always be right there when Josh Allen needs him. He

1636
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 1: was right there again tonight, caught two touchdown passes, including

1637
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 1: one that essentially sealed the game late. It's like the

1638
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 1: perfect tandem. It's the perfect compliment to Stefon Diggs, and

1639
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: it also allows them to not you know, try to

1640
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 1: shoot for the big play all the time and then

1641
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 1: they end up just happening because Josh Allen, I think

1642
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 1: has taken that next step. You know. Last year was

1643
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,759
Speaker 1: that first step out of some of the initial struggles

1644
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: of his younger years in the NFL with inaccuracy and

1645
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 1: everything else. Last year was the first time that he

1646
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: was able to really feel comfortable and like he could

1647
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: make the play and and change a game and not

1648
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 1: make a you know, crushing mistake. This is like the

1649
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: next step in that progression where he doesn't have to

1650
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 1: go be the hero. They talked about that on the

1651
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 1: broadcast on Sunday Night Football, that Patrick Mahomes, you know,

1652
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: eric the enemy. It tells him you don't have to

1653
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 1: be the hometown hero every week. Well, Josh Allen is

1654
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: learning that he doesn't have to go be that guy.

1655
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: Just go play your game. And his game tonight was

1656
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 1: what close to three over three d fifty scrimmage yards.

1657
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 1: I think it was a mental math three seventy four

1658
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 1: just from Josh all alone in a rainy game on

1659
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 1: a grass field where typically you don't expect that to happen.

1660
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 1: So um, you know, it's they're a scary team. And

1661
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 1: and the other thing that really stood out to me

1662
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: I think that we cannot afford to overlook is you know,

1663
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, we knocked the Chiefs are making mistakes and

1664
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 1: and penalties and drop passes and everything else. This Buffalo

1665
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: defense is playing some pretty good football. They're flying all

1666
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 1: over the field. There wasn't much room to really run organically,

1667
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: not with Patrick Mahomes scrambling, of course, but when it

1668
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 1: came through the air, they were right there breaking up

1669
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,719
Speaker 1: multiple passes, you know, making plays, you know, Micah Hyde

1670
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: with an interception returned for a touchdown off of a

1671
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 1: tip you off of a drop basically went right through

1672
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 1: the hands of Tyreek Hill. But in between, they're making

1673
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 1: all the plays Greg Russo with a tipped pass in

1674
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 1: an interception. No matter who it is, which level the defense,

1675
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 1: they're coming together and they're playing more complete football, and

1676
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: that's what makes them scary. It's not just Josh Allen,

1677
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,679
Speaker 1: it's not just Stefon Diggs. It's the fact that they're

1678
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 1: a very complete football team. And suddenly we can't look

1679
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: at their past games so much and say, well, they

1680
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 1: were just playing Houston. Who cares if they won for

1681
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: you to nothing. They could have won that game sixties

1682
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: and nothing, really if they had converted some of the

1683
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 1: red zone possessions early instead of settling for fuel goals.

1684
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: Now they got a legit win on their on their schedule.

1685
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 1: Right now that they just recorded that, they can put

1686
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: up on the bullets and board and say listen here,

1687
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: the rest of the league, we are for real and

1688
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 1: you better watch out because we're coming for you. Yeah,

1689
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 1: and I love that they're breaking out the designed runs

1690
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 1: for Josh Allen. That was the first time we've really

1691
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: seen that this season, the QB sweep type plays, the

1692
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 1: read option that he scored a touchdown on early. It's

1693
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: great to see him being able to use his legs.

1694
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 1: It almost feel like they were saving that on purpose

1695
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: for this opponent, like they knew they needed to pull

1696
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: something out to keep their offense moving again against Kansas City.

1697
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 1: And I want to go back to Micah Hides pick

1698
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 1: six because even the Chiefs right now, I mean, I

1699
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: don't know how you were feeling during that moment in

1700
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 1: the game, but I wasn't thinking, oh wow, now this

1701
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 1: game is so out of reach. That's it for Kansas City.

1702
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 1: Like you never think that about the Chiefs, and then

1703
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 1: they turn it over again on the very next possession

1704
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: with the Gregory Rousseau tip. He's been amazing by the way.

1705
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people were skeptical of him

1706
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 1: coming out because he was so right. I didn't play

1707
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 1: last year, but he's been on fire for them this

1708
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 1: year in Miami. You know the fact that they don't

1709
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 1: get the most other players typically the decade before they

1710
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 1: go to the NFL and start Yeah, you're right, yeah exactly. Um,

1711
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: but then the Chiefs did get the ball back. They

1712
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 1: didn't the Bills weren't able to do anything off that

1713
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 1: second interception, and then the Chiefs go down and score,

1714
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 1: and it's like thirty one twenty and you're like, oh, hey,

1715
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 1: here we go. The Chiefs are about to make a

1716
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 1: game of this. And with thirteen minutes left, almost fourteen

1717
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: minutes left, the Bills get the ball back. They actually

1718
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 1: um isaa McKenzie muffs the kickoff. You're going, oh, here

1719
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: we go. Bills recover and then put together the drive

1720
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 1: that really gives you the confidence that they can continue

1721
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: to be this elite team. And yes I mentioned this before.

1722
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 1: Helped out by the roughing the passer penalty that kept

1723
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: the drive going. But Josh Allen had scrambled for a

1724
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:28,680
Speaker 1: first down where it looked like he was gonna get

1725
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 1: caught from behind, and somehow he didn't, comes back for

1726
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 1: a holding penalty very next play as the roughing the passer,

1727
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 1: and from there the Bills drive down the field, take

1728
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:41,600
Speaker 1: off five almost six minutes o'clock, and don't give the

1729
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 1: ball back to Kansas City until it's basically too late.

1730
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 1: After putting on another touchdown that really steals the game.

1731
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: Like you said, Emmanuel Sanders second touchdown, So I would

1732
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 1: just thoroughly impressed by the by the way the Bills

1733
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 1: were able to close out this game and not let

1734
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: Kansas City make it exciting late. Yeah, that's the key.

1735
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 1: You know, you can point to a p lea and

1736
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 1: everything else, But first off, that wasn't a hold on

1737
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 1: the center on more. I don't know where they saw

1738
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 1: a hold. Maybe a slight grab of a jersey, but

1739
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 1: it was not a hole. Came in really late to

1740
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 1: the very very strange, so to get that rough in

1741
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 1: the pastor it was like, yeah, all right, this kind

1742
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 1: of evens out. But you're right, there were multiple situations

1743
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 1: just from that drive along where Josh Allen's extending to play,

1744
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 1: or he's scrambling, or it's a designed runner. He just

1745
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: takes off and gets the first down. That's probably what's

1746
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 1: most impressive is that's a situation where a lot of

1747
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 1: teams fold or a lot of teams start their meltdown

1748
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs pull another one out of you know

1749
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 1: who knows where and ends up coming back and winning game.

1750
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 1: They closed the door, slammed it on him, shut uh

1751
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: to complete that way, and you know, if you look

1752
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: at their schedule, you mentioned the game coming up against

1753
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 1: the Titans. After that, I mean it's pretty smooth sailing

1754
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 1: until about just early December, we're about two weeks off

1755
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:49,639
Speaker 1: from Christmas, when they have a game where you're like, oh,

1756
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 1: here we go, this is a tough one. And that's

1757
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay all the way in week fourteen. We're in

1758
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 1: week five or closing Week five with Monday Night football. Uh, well,

1759
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 1: when this comes out, it will be today is today here,

1760
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 1: it's twelve forty nine in the morning here in the

1761
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 1: East Coast. But I mean in between, they got Miami, Jacksonville,

1762
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 1: the Jets, ther Colts, the Saints, the Patriots. I don't

1763
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: see them losing a single one of those games. So

1764
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 1: you know, you go back and say, man, it's too

1765
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 1: bad they didn't win that Steeler game. We'd have two

1766
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: teams undefeated in the NFL right now, and the Bill

1767
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 1: is looking very strong, you know, into the next month

1768
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 1: and a half. And then on the chief side, you know,

1769
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 1: as they kind of recover from this, they got a

1770
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 1: few games. Um, they also play your type. What a

1771
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: tough two game stretch for your titness the Chiefs. All

1772
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 1: three of those teams played each other in like this

1773
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 1: insane three week cycle. I don't know, yeah exactly, but

1774
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 1: then you know they have they get Green Bay and

1775
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 1: in a month, uh, you know, so they're they're they're

1776
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 1: gonna be able to kind of figure things out to

1777
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 1: you know, Washington, Tennessee, New York and then and then

1778
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 1: Green Bay. So they get a little bit of a

1779
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 1: tougher slate. So that's not always lost. But two and three,

1780
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: this is certainly uncomfortable for the Chiefs. If nothing more.

1781
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 1: Not used to be in this position. Usually they get

1782
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 1: out of September undefeated. It is not the case. So

1783
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 1: some some hand ringing definitely coming in Kansas City. I

1784
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 1: will say long term, looking at the Chiefs, I'm not

1785
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 1: that concerned because again, it's all about stop turning the ball.

1786
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: You can't win a football game if you lose a

1787
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 1: turnover battle four to zero. I mean it's almost impossible.

1788
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: So I'm not like worried. I'm not concerned about the

1789
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs going forward. And they just need to stop shooting

1790
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 1: themselves in the foot, stop beating themselves, and they can

1791
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 1: easily become the team that we expected them to be

1792
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 1: all season. Yeah, and there'll be a tough out no

1793
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 1: matter what, especially if they're not dealing with inclement weather. Um,

1794
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is an aberration. I'm also not

1795
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:32,639
Speaker 1: going to go as far as Chris Collinsworth said tonight

1796
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 1: saying this is the night that everything changed, because it's

1797
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 1: a long season and a lot can happen. But it's

1798
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,720
Speaker 1: definitely a statement win for the Bills and it's a

1799
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 1: good way to close out the podcast, even without Dan

1800
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 1: and Gregg. You know, we just we subbed in here

1801
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 1: get the job done. Not quite as you know, resoundingly

1802
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 1: as as the Bills did, but you know, done right,

1803
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 1: we did, We did pretty well. So thanks to those

1804
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 1: two guys for giving us this chance to recap what

1805
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 1: was the biggest game of the week on the schedule,

1806
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 1: at least before today started. And obviously I have to

1807
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: thank Erica because she suggested me as the other fill

1808
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 1: in to do this Sunday night recap with you, which

1809
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 1: I very much enjoyed. So thanks to Erica for that.

1810
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 1: And obviously it's very very late over in London right now,

1811
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 1: but it's pretty late. I'm not trying to compare, but

1812
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 1: it's pretty late for you too. I would imagine they'll

1813
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 1: we're waking up soon over there, Yeah, right, right, when

1814
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 1: the pod comes out. They could have done this themselves.

1815
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, almost pretty much. They just have to catch

1816
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 1: the game on game Pass. We caught it live and

1817
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 1: we wrapped it up. So yeah, alright, alright, thanks, we'll

1818
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,600
Speaker 1: send it back over to Dan Gregg and Erica to

1819
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 1: wrap up the show. All right, thank you to the

1820
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 1: grave Digger and the Pipe. They did a good job.

1821
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 1: Well maybe we don't know. Yeah, we're like clearly pre

1822
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:52,639
Speaker 1: taping it before this and the listeners can figure that out.

1823
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: Very so good. I just think Justin is just amazing.

1824
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:58,600
Speaker 1: Nick always has a great job. But no, but like

1825
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 1: we think that too, I've see. That's why we asked

1826
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 1: them to handle the recap of one of the biggest

1827
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 1: games of the season. So, like you telling little FIBs

1828
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 1: just seems completely you want to talk little FIBs. You're like, oh,

1829
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 1: who's gonna do it with shuck And we were in

1830
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 1: the car service this morning and I was like, let's

1831
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 1: have Justin do it, and you were like, that's a

1832
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 1: great idea. But I wasn't a lie. That was just

1833
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 1: you making a suggestion and me showing that I am

1834
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 1: open to ideas from people, including my producer. Yeah, we're

1835
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 1: I feel like we're talking about the same thing here. No,

1836
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 1: but like the words you're saying aren't meaning what you

1837
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 1: think that they say. I don't know what I'm speaking.

1838
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm not even I'm not even speaking. But I just

1839
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 1: thought they did such a good job. All right, Hey,

1840
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 1: before we go, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank

1841
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 1: you to all the people responsible for getting us here

1842
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,759
Speaker 1: to London, because it wasn't easy. It was not easy

1843
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 1: to make it happen this year with everything going on

1844
01:34:56,600 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 1: at our company, with the global pandemic. Uh, all the

1845
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 1: challenges um that we've faced as a podcast and personally. Uh,

1846
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 1: and yet we still made it to London and had

1847
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 1: an amazing time as a group. So I just want

1848
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 1: to thank um, Henry Hodson for everything that he did. Uh.

1849
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 1: Sarah Parsons my boss, uh, one of my many bosses.

1850
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 1: Matt Schneider, Jason Kleinman. I mean without those guys, this

1851
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 1: isn't even a conversation. Nick Pike, Nick Pike at the

1852
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 1: NFL UK office for everything that he has done. Neil

1853
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 1: Reynolds for always being a mensch and taking care of

1854
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 1: us with Sky Sports and keeping us in the mix there.

1855
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 1: Alex Mason his producer. Who else are we missing? This

1856
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 1: is the time Greg Steve Manny putting together our pitch

1857
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 1: decks and all that kind of stuff. And Mark Brady

1858
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:50,479
Speaker 1: for all the work that that he did, you know

1859
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 1: previously to get us setting the table. Mark Brady, we

1860
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 1: love that man. And uh, it was such a special

1861
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 1: week and uh and it wasn't obviously the same without

1862
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, who we hope to be rejoining us once

1863
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:07,639
Speaker 1: we get back to the States, um at some point.

1864
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 1: And of course without Chris Wessling, who was on our

1865
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 1: minds throughout this trip, just as he's been on our

1866
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 1: minds ever since we lost him in February. And uh, Greg,

1867
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 1: there was a really nice moment. Um. We had our

1868
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:28,639
Speaker 1: two live shows on Thursday and we we came out

1869
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 1: and the place was packed. And it's been such an

1870
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 1: incredible Um, Greg and Ricky, it's been such an incredible

1871
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 1: five days to see how our audience has grown as

1872
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 1: the show has gone on, and um, the amount of

1873
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 1: people that we you know, taking photos with us and

1874
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 1: coming up to us in the streets and at the stadium.

1875
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,640
Speaker 1: Today the show is bigger than ever. Uh. Here in

1876
01:36:52,720 --> 01:37:00,559
Speaker 1: the UK Boat from the crowd Boat, from the upper

1877
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:04,920
Speaker 1: deck UM and uh, you know the live shows which

1878
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 1: were sold out, UM coming out there, and I had

1879
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:13,440
Speaker 1: a this photo that I keep behind me UM at

1880
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,799
Speaker 1: my house of of of West, this great UM artwork

1881
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: of West, and held it up to the crowd and Ricky,

1882
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 1: if you could play the reaction from the crowd, uh,

1883
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 1: as we held up this photo of Wes and just

1884
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 1: kind of soaked in the moment West not being with us,

1885
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:30,560
Speaker 1: but always being with us at the same time. It

1886
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 1: was really special playing Ricky that was just man, that

1887
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 1: was that was really really special stuff. And uh, I'll

1888
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 1: never forget it that he was gonna explode then, like

1889
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't handle it. And I felt that and and

1890
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 1: more at the stadium today when you know when they

1891
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 1: when they said Chris his name in that stadium and

1892
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 1: they you know they and they introduced us when we

1893
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 1: were on the Jumbo Chanchu and it was a really

1894
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 1: you know, it was a really nice ovation. UM in

1895
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 1: both cases, but of course, especially for West, I don't

1896
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 1: know him not being there hit so hard and it

1897
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:30,600
Speaker 1: sucks because you just want him to be able to

1898
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: know the impact he had and I think he did,

1899
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 1: and I think he I think he had this great

1900
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 1: way of appreciating these trips to London. We we all do, um,

1901
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:49,679
Speaker 1: but I think when he came off the stage, Henry

1902
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 1: was talking to me about it one of the first

1903
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:55,720
Speaker 1: times he was here or just meeting people at one

1904
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 1: of our very first meetups, and he just couldn't get

1905
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:02,719
Speaker 1: over the fact that all these guys, all these people

1906
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 1: overseas like got such a kick out of him, and

1907
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:10,559
Speaker 1: he connected with so many of them on a one

1908
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,640
Speaker 1: to one level. I started feeling today when you know,

1909
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 1: when they introduced, when they said his name, It's like

1910
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 1: that all these people cheering for West had a packed out,

1911
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:27,719
Speaker 1: sold out sixty people of an NFL game in London,

1912
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 1: and I could hear his voice cheering for just a

1913
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 1: kid from the West side of Cincinnati. You know. Um,

1914
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 1: it was beautiful and it was hard to I'm not

1915
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:42,680
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna lie. It was hard to and

1916
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 1: it was it's a testament to you know, that reaction

1917
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,599
Speaker 1: as a testament to what we've been able to build

1918
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:53,639
Speaker 1: with a show, and and that we absolutely um includes

1919
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 1: West because getting to this point and having these opportunities

1920
01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:00,640
Speaker 1: happened because the four of us got together and uh,

1921
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:04,880
Speaker 1: created something together and created this audience and a show

1922
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 1: that UM has been you know, really important to us

1923
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 1: and important to a lot of people that listened to us.

1924
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 1: And that was part of the what made this week

1925
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 1: so special to was talking to so many different fans,

1926
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:20,519
Speaker 1: whether it was them spotting us in the street and

1927
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:22,639
Speaker 1: talking to us, or at the stadium today or at

1928
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 1: the live show, and then sharing what the show has

1929
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 1: meant to them in good times and bad and they

1930
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 1: it's just it. It works on a different levels because

1931
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 1: the audience has been with us through good times in bed,

1932
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 1: and we've shared good times in bed with them, so

1933
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 1: we're kind of all in this together, UM, and we've

1934
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:46,560
Speaker 1: all shared the grief of losing West. So you know,

1935
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 1: grief is something you carry around with you and it

1936
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:51,639
Speaker 1: doesn't really ever go away. But I think when you're

1937
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 1: not doing it alone, that helps. And and as long

1938
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,680
Speaker 1: as we have this audience, we're not alone, uh with it.

1939
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I just meant so much. And to

1940
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 1: to meet so many people and to hear like what

1941
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 1: he specifically meant to them, it was like that. I

1942
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 1: don't think there was one person that was just like, oh,

1943
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 1: I love your guys show. It was like I love

1944
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:21,680
Speaker 1: your guys show and also like miss West every day,

1945
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 1: Like it was just so touching. And I I said

1946
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 1: it to you guys in private earlier tonight, like just

1947
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 1: so proud to be even a small part of what

1948
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 1: you guys have built and to be able to be

1949
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,840
Speaker 1: here with you guys and without you know, West and Mark.

1950
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 1: It's a it's a different trip, but just proud of

1951
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 1: proud of you guys and just was so happy to

1952
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 1: get to experience this again. We're so lucky. Yeah, I

1953
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 1: wish he could know, you know, I wish I wish

1954
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:52,559
Speaker 1: he could know, Like I wish I could travel back

1955
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 1: and and tell him in those last few weeks, like

1956
01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, we're going to be in London this year

1957
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 1: and they're gonna they're gonna say your name, and the

1958
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 1: place is gone, the place is gonna go crazy, and

1959
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna show your picture in this full stadium the

1960
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 1: celebration of football, like the sport you love. But I

1961
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. Somehow I think like he didn't know,

1962
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 1: you know that he does know um and and that

1963
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 1: like we're here, you know. That's That's one thing I did.

1964
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 1: I did really try to think about that like we

1965
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 1: we are here. He's not here, but we're here, and

1966
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 1: we can we can have gratitude for that moment because,

1967
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:34,600
Speaker 1: like you said, Dan, you said it beautifully like we

1968
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 1: we are all part of that, and the fans are

1969
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 1: all part of that. And I felt that talking to

1970
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 1: everyone that came up to us this week. So I

1971
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 1: just want to thank every everyone that did come up

1972
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:47,839
Speaker 1: to us, and and everyone that didn't, you know, everyone

1973
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 1: that yelled out, and because we feel it. We felt

1974
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:52,160
Speaker 1: the love and it really means the world to us.

1975
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 1: And even the people that didn't come up to us

1976
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:56,800
Speaker 1: because they don't like us, we like you guys. To

1977
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 1: even the guy and the guy outside the stadium this

1978
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 1: morning that asked for a photo of Greg and then

1979
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 1: said hi to Ricky and then I offered, you want

1980
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 1: me to take the photo? And he mentioned some one

1981
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 1: of Greg's many podcasts. I didn't even know. I can't remember.

1982
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, but no, you're not. I know. We

1983
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:19,680
Speaker 1: want to go to bed, but you have to do

1984
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 1: the stresses. So he goes, oh my god, Greg, Greg, Greg,

1985
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:23,680
Speaker 1: can I get a photo? And then he's like, oh

1986
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 1: my god, Ricky Hollywood, get in the photo. And Dan

1987
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 1: like looks at me, and he was more like, oh hey,

1988
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood. No, No he wasn't, No, he wasn't. I

1989
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 1: was in the photo. And then and then Dan looks

1990
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 1: at me and does one of his smug faces, like

1991
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 1: lifts his eyebrows and he looks. So he looks at

1992
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 1: me first like watch this. Then because he thought the

1993
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:41,439
Speaker 1: guy didn't see him, then he goes to the guy

1994
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:44,759
Speaker 1: and he goes, you want me to take the photo?

1995
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 1: And the guy was like, no, I'm good because he

1996
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 1: didn't know Dan. It was so funny. Ricky, Ricky was

1997
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 1: loving that walk into the into the stadium. You want

1998
01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 1: me to do? You want me to get in the

1999
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 1: picture too? You know, it was a lot, it was.

2000
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 1: It was awesome everything and I just said nice to

2001
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 1: you guys when people were screaming from the rafters for

2002
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 1: the tug vote. Wherever that guy was, I got the

2003
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 1: last laugh on him. Now it is fun to just

2004
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 1: see there's just like some just hands as fans, some

2005
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:26,080
Speaker 1: just you know, it's great. I love it anyway. Now

2006
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 1: we're prattling on, but yes, it was an amazing week,

2007
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 1: the third time we've been here as a group. Um,

2008
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:34,720
Speaker 1: and uh, we hope to do it again next year

2009
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 1: and the year after that and the year after that,

2010
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 1: because there is a special connection here, um, between our

2011
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 1: show and this part of the world, and we're just

2012
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: very fortunate to be able to celebrate that. Okay, now

2013
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:55,600
Speaker 1: we're getting Yeah, we yes, we will. But I just

2014
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 1: want to say we're getting on a plane, God willing.

2015
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 1: We'll touch back down in America, um later tomorrow. No

2016
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:08,920
Speaker 1: show Tuesday, so don't get all upset. We're just recalibrating

2017
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 1: some clocks. We'll be back on Wednesday with another episode

2018
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 1: and then um a full week of shows, just one

2019
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 1: day late. In addition to everything else going on at

2020
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 1: the live shows, Uh, it happens to be Mr Mark

2021
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:28,960
Speaker 1: Sessler's uh thirty eight birthday or thereabouts uh this weekend

2022
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 1: Sunday in fact, uh and the listeners or the people

2023
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 1: in attendance at our live show wanted to share a

2024
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 1: message with Mark, so we will sign off with that,

2025
01:45:40,640 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 1: love you, London to be lat